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A voice is named only when we can verify it — by voiceprint, an @handle present in the room, or the Space’s own title. Anyone we can’t confirm stays “Speaker,” on purpose.
Speaker 1My stupid mouth has got me in trouble I've said too much again From the date overdone yesterday And I couldn't sleep She was offended She said well anyway I'm just dying for subject change
Speaker 1No filter in my head on what's important to me I guess you'd better find one We bit our lips, looked out the window Room of animals and napkin paper
Speaker 1I played a quick game of chess with a salt and pepper shaker And I could see clearly an indelible line was drawn Between what was good when just slipped out and what went wrong Oh, the worst of things about me is strange Thanks for playing
Speaker 1One more thing, why is it my fault So maybe I tried too hard, but it's all
Ian MalcolmAll right, JoAnn, so let me ask you, can you name that tune and perhaps the relevance that it might have for the conversation we're going to be having here today?
@joann_marieI don't know what this song is. Can I guess? I don't know.
@joann_marieI'm never speaking again now or something. Something like that.
Ian MalcolmOh my goodness. Okay. All right. Well, let's, we might have, so I think this is week one flipping the tables. So you have all three of your lifelines that can become, you know, 13 or 30 or whatever we need for the fun game. So the question will become. Do you want to phone a friend? Do you want to poll the audience and see if anybody's got something in the purple pill?
Ian MalcolmOr what would be the, oh, or do you want a multiple choice? I guess that'd be the third option here.
@joann_marieSure, a multiple choice.
Ian MalcolmThe multiple choice. Okay, so would that singer, let's see if we can get it this way. Is that singer, is it Jimmy Buffett? Is it the Dave Matthews band? Is it the Eagles? or is it John Mayer?
@joann_marieI'm pretty sure that's John Mayer.
Ian MalcolmThat is John Mayer. That's correct. My Stupid Mouth is the name of the song by John Mayer.
@joann_marieAnd the reason- It doesn't say stupid mouth in the entire song. I was listening to the lyrics and it never says that.
Ian MalcolmRight at the beginning. Yeah, my stupid mouth has got me in trouble. The opening of the song, but there is- There's something strange with the way that John Mayer formulates his words. I don't know if that makes sense, but there's kind of a strange draw or I don't know how I would describe it. But if you even watch him singing, it kind of almost looks like he's in pain because he's always straining his face in weird ways during his performances.
Ian MalcolmBut a very talented guitarist nonetheless. But so is there any... about not not speaking again.
@joann_marieI don't remember the lyrics. I was too focused on trying to get the name and what was repeating itself that I wasn't paying attention to the lyrics. Sorry, Ian.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no. Fair enough. So he talks in the song about he's sitting there across from his significant other where the song is about him lamenting what he just said. He kind of put his foot in his mouth. And he talks about obviously getting in trouble, but he says... I played a quick game of chess with the salt and pepper shaker, referring to as he's sitting there anxiously, he's kind of moving the things around on the table, kind of a cool piece of imagery.
Ian MalcolmBut the reason I also thought it would be good here for this space, first and foremost, we're going to be speaking with the chess master himself. And there's actually a surprisingly few amount of songs that have any reference to the game of chess, which I guess shouldn't surprise us. It's not exactly the most What did you call it?
Ian MalcolmThe most glamorous of hobbies or activities, although it's certainly a very, very impressive one for those that can play it well. But he also, the song is about my stupid mouth. It's about saying something that you feel socially uncomfortable with. And if you think about it, what a better concept to discuss not only when referring to Jewish supremacy and this idea about talking about that topic, which of course is taboo, but also
Ian MalcolmIf we think of the person that we're going to be having this deep dive into essentially the idea of playing chess in this world that we find ourselves in against an opponent that is Jewish supremacy, right? We've got to be very, very careful how we move these pieces intellectually around on the board. And what an interesting character to have that conversation with.
Ian MalcolmThen Bobby Fischer, our guest speaker here, who just like the chess master himself is of Jewish ethnicity. But it's speaking out against Jewish power and Jewish supremacy, right? And so if you think about it, there really is no group of people that could, let's say, get in more socially uncomfortable settings and scenarios than a member of the proverbial tribe speaking out against the way in which the tribe is weaponizing a lot of these different social aspects and economic levers.
Ian MalcolmAnd so this idea of trying to find comfort in the discomfort, right? I don't think any of us, the end of that song, he says, I'm never speaking up again. He kind of refrains that over and over again. Well, we're going to keep speaking up, right? Because it's uncomfortable as it might be to sit there at the table. Sure, maybe we need to move the chess pieces around to kind of deal with some of the discomfort that is talking about these uncomfortable subjects, but we're not going to muzzle ourselves, right?
Ian MalcolmWe're going to do the inverse of that song. Again, kind of an interesting little acoustic performance from John Mayer. But very, very excited for our guest speaker here. Obviously, we are going to be diving into his lived experience, right? What was the religious, cultural, maybe the ethnic elements of growing up in the Jewish community?
Ian MalcolmWhat is it that kind of caught his eye that had him start to look down some of these rabbit holes that we've dove way into, right? And what has been the response amongst his Thank you very much.
Ian MalcolmSo I think it will be a very, very wonderful conversation for everybody that's listening in. If you do want to come up, certainly feel free, request a microphone, put any questions into the purple pill. If you don't feel comfortable speaking, we always want to respect everybody's anonymity, anonymity, anonymity, anonymity, a little tongue twister there, right?
Ian MalcolmSo you want to be respectful of that. If you want to stay anonymous and you want to stay off of microphones, certainly feel free. and we will always, as we do, respect that. I certainly encourage it for everybody, right? There's a lot to lose talking about these issues and what an appropriate comment to make given that Bobby Fischer, right?
Ian MalcolmThis is an individual. I'm going to be very curious actually for this Bobby Fischer's presentation of what he knows of the great Bobby Fischer because the man, according to Grok, somewhere between 180 and a 200 estimated IQ.
Ian Malcolmwhich would make him one of the most intelligent people of the last century. That was Grok's output, one of the top 20 most intelligent people of the last century. And what do you know? It came to the exact same conclusions that we have arrived at, right? So perhaps we are also in that upper echelon of intellect or maybe we're just following in the footsteps of those that were able to help put some of the pieces, pun intended, on the board for us.
Ian MalcolmSo I'm very, very excited to introduce our guest speaker. I do see that Tim has his hand up and I want to respect that if he wants to jump in as, of course, a regular in our conversations in this community. So why don't we go to Tim really quickly, then we'll go back to JoAnn in case there's anything I left off of the top of the conversation.
Ian MalcolmAnd then we will get the introduction here from the legend himself, Mr. Bobby Fisher.
@timlordanThanks so much, Ian. Yeah, I just wanted to mention that I just got back from a town hall. I was inspired by, I think, AOR, one of the speakers from a previous space, to go there. And although I'm not a resident of the area that I was going in, I did have my address on the sign-in sheet. And there was a panel of people, including like sheriffs, or not sheriffs, like chief of police and people like that, that I was looking forward to speaking to, because I didn't want to come in their regular business hours and talk about Israel.
@timlordanAnd the moment I mentioned Lebanon, 15 seconds in, they shut me down in the middle of speaking. And granted, they said it was because I wasn't a taxpayer for the area that I was speaking at. But at the same time, they had let me up and they saw my address on the list. So I obviously, they were not ready to hear how I didn't want the funding going to Israel and I wanted the funding going locally.
@timlordanAnd they weren't ready for that conversation. The moment I mentioned that the children that I teach, their father, can't go to his father's grave in Lebanon because the town's been destroyed, razed to the ground. I told them three years of this, three years every day, hours a day, I did get that part in, that I've been speaking out for the Palestinians and trying to do things for them.
@timlordanAnd the fact that I got shut down after saying that, I asked for 30 seconds, I didn't get 30 seconds. Mr. Raed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven, PVG
Ian MalcolmRaed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven
Ian MalcolmWe have to get comfortable, speaking back to that song, right? My stupid mouth. I don't think it's stupid at all to suggest that a politician that is deprioritizing their citizenry for a foreign government, that they are, as a result, breaking the law, right? And so we need to be able to get comfortable suggesting that we need to demand that the law essentially be applied.
Ian MalcolmAnd I'm not suggesting that people be vigilantes, of course. We need to figure out how to get these conversations enough into the zeitgeist so that more and more and more people are comfortable standing up at those town halls and saying, how dare you try to silence one of the taxpayers? You are not here, elected official, to represent a foreign government and a small set of...
Ian MalcolmThey didn't look at the list and...
@timlordanRaed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven
@timlordanRaed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven, PVG
@timlordanThank you, Ann.
Ian MalcolmWhat would you call them?
Ian MalcolmRight. So we need to think a number of steps ahead and say, OK, well, that's off the table, both because I think it's the wrong approach, but also because strategically speaking, it won't advance our cause. And so what would be then the right way to go about things? Well, if we know that politicians are going to shut someone that is going out like Tim is and is honestly trying to bring attention to these things in the lawful fashion, well, they can maybe shut down Tim.
Ian MalcolmAre they going to shut down 100 people waiting in line for their three minutes to say, we see what you're doing and we're done with it? And the answer is obviously at some point, it'll become crystal clear to everybody that's watching that we have a serious problem, right? So let them continue to lie and obfuscate and all of the other nonsense.
Ian MalcolmAnd for what it's worth, I saw a post, I think it was Wild Horse is the name of the account on Twitter. and the individual is from Native American ancestry, right? So the Indian with the feather as they would perhaps joke amongst themselves, not the dot, right? And this individual was interesting. He had responded to a post that was on Twitter where basically a Jew was saying, we need to get together and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, not presenting the fact, right?
Ian MalcolmTalking about at a communal level, basically the old, what'd you call it? The old meme of hello, fellow white people. and the same person that was making suggestions about what needs to be done to thwart mass migration, all these other things. This individual quote tweeted a post from them that basically said, I hate white civilizations and societies.
Ian MalcolmThe exact verbiage, let me make sure I get it. He said, actually F you and your white countries. That was the quote tweet that the person had as a screenshot in response to this Jewish individual saying, well, let me tell you about blah, blah, blah, blah. And the reason that I bring this up is because the person's post, the Native American, they said, we, referring to the Native Americans, that we had fought with the white settlers for a century.
Ian MalcolmBack and forth, back and forth. They're encroaching on our land. We fight back. They fight back. We fight back. He's presenting it this way. And he's responding to this Jewish individual. And basically at the end of it, let me get you the exact reference. So he basically says. I laugh at you, I scorn you, I declare you weaker than the women.
Ian MalcolmYou bring shame upon all those of your blood, and your name I will not say aloud without spitting. He responds earlier, your kind cannot do this, referring to the back and forth of the fighting in the open. Says instead, you lie and lie and lie, and I'm reading this verbatim. You lie and lie and lie and lie and cheat and lie.
Ian Malcolmand one day you're angry and you declare war and then the next you mule and cry like a woman that you're not being included in the category that you just declared enmity for. And I suggest this because this quote, or I bring it up because this individual, he was in response to essentially what seems to be this pattern of behavior, right?
Ian MalcolmWhich is just the subversion of everything. Tim went and he tried to just honestly discuss
Ian MalcolmAnd we see this even in these spaces where we have folks like Mossad Mike, and I always reference this one because JoAnn was there, right? And Mossad Mike comes in. Oh, you said that you were going to kick my ass. No, I said I was going to kick you out of a digital space. Why are you lying? And just constant obfuscation from the quote.
Ian MalcolmContinuously saying, no, you said you were going to kick me. No, out of the space, right? Clearly not advocating for violence. Why do you keep lying? Why do you keep playing victim? We're all watching it. And it really is. It's unbelievable because again, you would think that Tim and the experience that he just had, if this group of people could just come out and say, actually, here's why we're going to send more money to Israel, but they can't do it.
Ian MalcolmThey have to just lie and obfuscate and dodge the questions, right? And then if you poke and press on it, they have to play victim and, oh no, what do you mean to these people? Right? It really is. It's unbelievable. And so the, at the end of the day, The Western man, the Western ideals. And this is something that I do think is universal amongst those with honor, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd I bring this up because the Native Americans, their tribe had honor. Not every single time, every single person, obviously. And that doesn't apply to the Western man as well, right? There's always going to be people that bring shame. But at a macro, doesn't matter if you're the Native Americans, if you were the Western man, if you were the Japanese, the samurai,
Ian MalcolmAll of these people had honor and they had shame. And so they would come out and they would say, we are going to debate. There we go. We're going to have a dispute about a debate, right? And we are going to go back and forth on these topics like men in the open, in honesty. This other group seemingly incapable of that.
Ian MalcolmAnd yet we have one individual that has come into this space. I'm very, very excited to hear all about his lived experience within this community, right? Are these Thank you very much.
Ian MalcolmFor trying to speak about obviously critical issues. If there's one person that wasn't aware of what's going on, they might have heard your interaction, your engagement and might have left thinking, you know what? I should maybe look into this subject. And that's what we need to do is more and more and more awareness. Because again, they will lie, dodge, deflect, they're owned, they're bribed, they're compromised.
Ian MalcolmBut if we've got millions and millions of people that are just speaking the truth, then we cannot be silenced as a collective. And so with that being said, JoAnn, anything else that we might have missed here? Maybe my stupid mouth went on and on too long there, a la the intro song. But I'm very excited here for Bobby Fischer and for the next 90 minutes that we have with him.
@joann_marieNo, it was awesome. Thank you so much for hosting Ian and Bobby. I cannot wait to learn more about your experience. They are even more ruthless with other Jews who speak up against them than with us, right? So I cannot wait to learn more. And yeah, guys, please repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and also bookmark it.
@joann_marieIt helps so, so, so much with the algorithm and follow Ian, Bobby, Mandy, Coyote, everybody here and And also, allegedly, Danko is downing the listeners who made incredible work for Ian on putting all of his spaces on Malcolm Spaces, on Rumble, on Apple Podcasts, on Spotify, and on ianmalcolm84.com. And he also helped us today with a really cool pitch that we're going to send today.
@joann_marieSo thank you so, so much. Danko, you're an absolute superstar. And yeah, no, happy to be here. So thank you so much for having me, Ian.
Ian MalcolmI love it. And so Mr. Bobby Fischer, it is such a pleasure. I've always enjoyed all of our interactions in other spaces. Very excited for this. And I know that there's a bunch of different ways that we can go about it, right? And we want to touch upon the chess master himself, some of his backstory and lived experience, and then also perhaps you utilizing his PFP because you're essentially going through the exact same
Ian MalcolmNot only realizations, but also then enduring all of the backlash that would come from your own community. And so I'm very curious which of the two you would like to start with, maybe a background, an overview on the legendary chess master or perhaps on yourself, and then we can go to that other piece.
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, thank you so much, Ian. Appreciate you having me for this space. I wanted to make a few comments about the space, the title, what I'm going to be covering, and then I'm going to go into... I'm going to take a little bit of a roundabout way. I'm going to talk a little bit about the PFP. I'm going to probably start with that.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd then I'm going to go into Bobby Fischer, the man, a bit. And then maybe we'll circle back to some of the other stuff and just kind of go from there. And you can help keep me on track because I'm sure we'll get off on lots of wonderful tangents. And I also just want to say, follow everyone on the stage. Really appreciate my guy, Rabbi Millstone here and everyone else.
@bobbyfischer_gmPeople have been extremely supportive of me and I really appreciate that. including Ian. So yeah, the original title I had in mind for this space, Ian, was like analyzing the position on the board. But it seems like you want to, I guess, learn more about the personal lived experience, the Jewish community. But I guess I want to say at the outset, I don't want this to be like a hyper personal like struggle session.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I'm sorry to be so blunt, but it's more that I want to have my commentary and lived experience be I wanna extract out the ideas from that into the overall dialogue that we're having and the ideas. And so I'm gonna comment on it sort of as relevant to that discussion. And certainly there's gonna be elements of it that I'm not gonna go into detail on, et cetera.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo we'll just kind of go from there. So I've always been fascinated with the game of chess. I'm not a grand master, unfortunately. I'm not as good as Bobby Fischer, but I am a decent player and I've always, I had a fondness for it and one of my earliest memories I had in my childhood was studying about this guy Bobby Fischer and his games or whatever and I wasn't even aware of his ethnic background, his commentary, his beliefs, none of that.
@bobbyfischer_gmI was just in it for the chess and for the games and obviously he was an extremely intelligent man, one of the greatest players of all time. He had this one Absolutely stunning game. I mean, one of many stunning games. But he had one when he was 13 where he defeated a very strong player and ended up sacrificing his queen.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd then, you know, all of his minor pieces worked together to basically, you know, corner the opponent. And it was just spectacular. And so the beauty of that was one thing. And, you know, it's sort of like all these things came together in kind of the perfect way where I was like, I eventually got to a point where I was like, why am I not having a PFP of Bobby Fischer and talking about this?
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd just like, because I only discovered that he even had this ethnic background and all this stuff later. And it was sort of like a coming full circle moment.
Ian MalcolmSo I guess I'll go back to... And can you, can you give everybody a sense of... Bobby Fishers and his legacy as a chess master and where he would rank both during his time and then also in terms of the the all-time greats because if i'm not mistaken he was you know i don't want to compare him to the beatles of chess but but certainly one of if not the the top five uh players in in all time is that correct
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, he, I mean, it's kind of disputed. Like, for example, the highest rated player is Garry Kasparov, or like his top rating, I think, is the highest number rating anyone's had. But Bobby in his prime, some people argue was better. You know, part of what goes into that calculation is the notion of the soundness of various moves that were played, because now with artificial intelligence and engine analysis, we've like...
@bobbyfischer_gmHe's one of the greatest players who ever lived. And...
@bobbyfischer_gmHis life and his career as a chess player was also remarkable in other ways beyond just his sheer skill. He basically went against the so-called Russian chess establishment because basically the Russians had like this kind of iron grip on the world of chess and the world championship for a long time. And he was an American who challenged them.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd it was a huge diplomatic victory for, I guess, relations between the United States and the Soviet Union. But it was also a huge victory for America that he won the world championship in 1972 in this iconic battle between him and Boris Spassky, who was a very strong Russian player. And there's a number of other notable Russian players, including Tigran Petrosyan, who he famously had a game against.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat guy was a Soviet Armenian grandmaster. who was nicknamed the Iron Tigran or the Iron Tiger because he was like, he's known as the hardest player to beat in the history of chess. And Bobby Fischer actually ended up defeating him in a number of cases. They also had this one game where there was four queens on the board in a grandmaster game.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd that game ended in a draw, which is kind of insane. And that was one of my favorite games to study when I was younger as well and still. So anyway, before I get too far on that stuff, he was a spectacular figure and one of the smartest people just in general. He also had a famous quote where he said, I don't consider myself a genius at chess.
@bobbyfischer_gmI consider myself a genius that happens to play chess. That was a quote that he said, because he pretty much was like, chess is just one thing that you can apply a genius to. You can apply it to anything. And that's really that actually is the perfect segue into the other stuff that we're going to talk about, because part of why I've embraced this, this PFP, this persona or whatever, is not just because of my personal love for him and his work and his career or whatever, but because of his mentality when it comes to his commentary.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo I guess I'll just jump straight into that. Obviously, Ian and many other people already know this, but for any listeners who don't, Bobby Fischer.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd throughout his life, he clearly said a lot of really controversial stuff about this group of people and received a lot of backlash for it. And I'll just name a few things so we can go into more of the historical context in a bit. But he was accused of being anti-Semitic. And he said at one point, he was like, I don't hate Arab people.
@bobbyfischer_gmI don't hate Semitic people. So he literally said way back when, the same exact thing that we're talking about right now and that we're calling out right now. So he was way ahead of the game. He even did this in front of like press and stuff, like in front of cameras. He said, communism is just a mask for Bolshevism and Bolshevism is just a mask for Judaism.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's another quote that he said. The most famous quote attributed to him about this is he said, My basic thesis is that the Jews are criminal people and they completely control the United States and they're using the United States as a vehicle to take over the world. And I guess I'll tie that back into why I've embraced this persona.
@bobbyfischer_gmIt's not necessarily because I automatically endorse the way that he said everything or everything that he said or anything like that. I do like the guy. I share this. I agree with the sentiment. But it's more of the mentality. It's that he seemed to have a tougher mentality and a more strategic, a more cold and calculated mentality to looking at this situation like it's a chess game, not like it's something emotional to freak out about and try and play the victim on, kind of like you were talking about Ian.
@bobbyfischer_gmLike he was like, no, I'm just gonna tell it like it is. And he didn't need to make a whole bunch of statements where he was saying, Like, oh, I'm saying it's the Jews, but no, but not me. I'm one of the good Jews. He didn't say anything like that. He just said what he thought and let people think what they're going to think, which just, it just portrays a much tougher mentality.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd, you know, it was kind of funny, Ian, before we were starting this space last night, the Yitz character started commenting and calling me a capo. And of course, imagine my disappointment that he wasn't able to make the space. You know, my honest reaction to that was I was like, you know, I really would love for someone to come and give me some sort of pushback and give me like a good high IQ objection.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut I don't think that I don't think it's going to come from a character like that. You know, I think there's there are good criticisms that people can make of, you know, people like you and Malcolm or any other people that are talking about this. But as I've mentioned to you before, I just don't I just don't hear it. What I hear a lot of on.
@bobbyfischer_gmon the spaces or whatever is just people coming in to deliberately waste time, annoy everyone, ask retarded questions that they know are not going anywhere, just act in bad faith in every possible way. And I would genuinely love nothing more than to actually have someone confront me with an objection either morally, logically, or otherwise to what I'm saying or doing that I may actually have a hard time, you know, disagreeing with or that would actually, you know, be like, okay, maybe I'll actually think about that.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut it just... It doesn't happen. And I'll give you a perfect example, and this will tie back to more of the personal experiences. So I'm going to stay somewhat vague with it, but actually for context, I listened to a previous space you did with the Jews for Yay 24 lady. You remember that, Ian?
Ian MalcolmShe was very interesting.
@bobbyfischer_gmShe was very interesting. And it's another case where I very much... I very much liked the sentiments that she was saying. I would say things a little bit differently, as you might expect, just being a different person. But I actually have a somewhat similar background to that individual in the sense that, you know, she mentioned she was from a reform, grew up in more of a reform milieu, which you guys already know, but maybe the listeners don't.
@bobbyfischer_gmThere's sort of three main denominations of Judaism, and then there's branches off of them. It's Orthodox, Conservative, and Reform. and Orthodox is like the most religious. Those are the black hats, you know, Chabad falls in that category, all that kind of stuff. And then there's gradations within that. And then there's reform, which is much more cultural, kind of the more, the more left wing liberal side of things.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd then conservative is kind of in the middle where it kind of tries to be some of both, but I would say it's closer to reform or at least the, the, you know, community I was familiar with was, was much closer to that. And so, That's probably why, as I've mentioned, I consider myself very lucky that I didn't come from one of these super extreme cults.
@bobbyfischer_gmBecause I think if I did, it would be much less likely that I would be talking to you guys all right now or feel any degree of safety or whatever doing this. Because those cults are so... And I'm just calling them cults openly because I'm just done having my language policed about it. But... They operate no differently than other known cults where they use the exact same strategies.
@bobbyfischer_gmThey ostracize people. They demonize people who try to leave. They make it impossible to leave. They entrap people. I've had friends tell me stuff that I don't even know about them where it's just like, oh, forget about the... Well, don't forget about it, but even putting aside the actual criminal stuff that we know goes on in those communities, they also just...
@bobbyfischer_gmAll these people try to force people to become religious and do really manipulative things. They basically kidnap people and try to make them become religious and all kinds of crazy stuff. And there's so many stories. There's even a Netflix documentary about, you know, like women that get abused in those communities and then they can't talk to anyone else because of the misera.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd, you know, we could go off in so many different directions. But Ian, you already know the deal with that.
@joann_marieWhat's the name of that documentary? I want to watch it.
@bobbyfischer_gmThe one that I'm thinking of is called Unorthodox, I believe. Maybe someone could correct me. I don't like watch Netflix. I think it's all Goizlop.
@joann_marieYeah, me too, but that sounds interesting.
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, so anyway, I was trying to remember where I was going with that. So anyway, yeah, so that's the milieu we're talking about. And I guess I'll refresh you guys on, this is sort of, this is the first commentary that I made when I started talking to Ian in a previous space. And this is kind of, my thesis kind of builds off of this.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo I had a variety of awakenings, you might say, in the years that followed growing up in that community. I was sort of in and out of it. I always from the start kind of had an aversion or I'd say a negative experience is kind of putting it mildly. to to kind of simplify it it was like the only people that i was friends with were other people who were kind of either outcasted or disagreed with the whole thing and i always felt a huge sense of guilt for kind of having an aversion to judaism as an organized religion and i and i thought it was just me i thought like it made me like not a good person that i that i had a natural like i was like oh like i think all these people are
@bobbyfischer_gmmaking all these long prayers or whatever, but I don't really think they're genuine. I think there's something really weird. There's like a really weird social hierarchy going on. And I noticed other things and a lot of things I couldn't even put my finger on that then later upon reaching more maturity, I started to understand these are actual real principles and real what I would call spiritual corruptions within this type of religion.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo, I guess I'm just going to take a pause, Ian, because there's a lot of different things that I want to lay out about this and I want to do it properly, but I guess I want to plan a little bit of structure before getting into all of them.
Ian MalcolmNo, always thinking a couple steps ahead, which I can certainly appreciate, especially given the subject and the talk track here. Really quickly, so you mentioned those three different groups of Judaism and... Thank you very much.
Ian Malcolmor is it that in those communities, the peer pressure is so heavy to remain within it that those people, you know, essentially get stuck there within?
@bobbyfischer_gmWell, I think the, I mean, when I was talking about the cults, I'm referring to much more on the Orthodox side of things because I don't, I wouldn't describe reform Judaism as a cult, certainly not, or at least not that I don't know any reform temple that I would call that way or conservative for that matter. It's really the Orthodox side of things where,
@bobbyfischer_gmYou start getting cults. And I mean, like there was that one in Guatemala, right? The Lev Tahor. That's a cult. And that's one of the more extreme ones. But I mean, I think that, I mean, I think Zionism is a cult too. And that's another thing that I wanted to know where to even put into this because I think that whole situation kind of speaks for itself.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd, you know, like I mentioned, people trying to come to me with objections, like... If someone comes to me with objections to what I'm saying and they're a Zionist, fuck them. I'm not going to listen to that or even take that seriously from a moral perspective at all. If they're an anti-Zionist and they want to come and criticize something else about what I'm saying, I might give some leeway to that, depending on what they say and whether I think they're good faith or not.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut that's where I'm at with that, and we'll come back to that. But yeah, so I don't know if that answers your question. And I also wanted to correct something you said, Ian. It's not being in the middle of this thing that I think enabled me to potentially start talking about it. And I'll also just be honest about the fact that I'm still using a PFP.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo in a sense, I'm not really going public with talking about this. But I can tell you about certain notable interactions I've had with talking about this. And so I'm just going to go through a few. A few kind of awakenings that I've had, sort of a progression that tells you about my belief system a little bit. And then I guess we'll go from there.
Ian MalcolmI love that. And as you go through that, one thing I'd be curious about is within that inner circle. And obviously, you know, I can appreciate staying anonymous and I'm certainly in the same boat. But I'd be curious as you go through this, the reception, if there have been any individuals within that community that maybe you've
Ian MalcolmAs you kind of went through some of these awakenings, however you want to describe it, if at any point you bounced any of these ideas off other individuals and what the reception would have been, right? And if it was very emotional, was it logical and pragmatic? And I say it just because I'd be very curious your experience within the community itself from a temperament standpoint, right?
Ian Malcolmand I say it just because a lot of the interactions that we have on X in these spaces, you know, you're one of the very few that comes in and I guess gives credence to some of the things that we would suggest. The other ones that just seems, you know, I hate to just label large groups of people based on those interactions, but almost every other encounter I've had has been rather than just a logical, like you were saying,
Ian MalcolmThank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmReally critical, but I don't know another way to say it because it's usually, you know, we're like one or two steps shy of like nanny nanny boo boo when I'm trying to have a good faith debate on on issues. But so I'd be curious if if what we've witnessed in these spaces talking about the political elements of this, is it all akin to maybe some of the disagreements that you've had within people in that community about anything and everything else?
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's a good question. I mean, my main reaction to the dialogue is a strong word for it. Dialogue or lack thereof that people come into your space. I mean, we're talking about like just slimy freaks like Zico coming in and calling everyone a monkey. That's not dialogue. That's just entertainment, I guess, or whatever.
@bobbyfischer_gmThe Yitz character, and I think calling him a character is the perfect way of putting it because he ultimately doesn't. Actually, like, like, I've been itching to, to, because, because, you know, when I first encountered your account, and I was like, okay, you know, there's, there's a lot of facts here. I think it's, it's really silly to deny these facts.
@bobbyfischer_gmI mean, there's all kinds of ways to verify these things. And obviously, it's possible that, you know, like arguing about facts is really silly, right? Because it's just go do the work, go do the homework, go to the research. And like, people can figure that out, right? That's a solvable problem. But then it's what to do with those facts, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd so I've really wanted to hear people come and challenge you and be like, hey, look, you're pointing at all these facts, but where are you going with this? What is your goal here? Why do you feel the need to say these things? What's the crusade that you're on? What's the belief system that you have? And really challenge you for what framework you're working in, what your goals are, whatever.
@bobbyfischer_gmThank you so much for having me.
@bobbyfischer_gmand a lot of the other speakers you've had have just had a little bit more life experience to sort of come to these things. And I feel like I've just been trying to process a huge amount of information in a short period of time. And I was gonna briefly go through, like I said, like a couple of the awakenings I've had to get to that point.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut I wanted to, I guess, make sure I answered your question first.
Ian MalcolmNo, I think that was fantastic. And for what it's worth, I'm kind of hoping for the exact same at some point that, you know, I joked, I'm sure Joanne's heard this a number of times, Where I basically said, I long for the day that I wake up and I'm like, oh, I was wrong. Like the world's not that bad. And then instead I just wake up and every day it's like, now Israel is bombing this country.
Ian MalcolmAnd here's another video of IDF soldiers, snipering children. It's like, it just plays out over and over and over again. And Ford is worth, you mentioned Bobby, that idea of doing the work. And it's funny because in all candidness, There's certainly individuals that I've learned from. I would look to E. Michael Jones. I'd look to Kevin McDonald, other folks that I read a lot of their literature.
Ian MalcolmBut I only kind of stumbled across that after going really deep down into this rabbit hole and getting kind of acclimated because all of their work was obscured. And so I say it because that idea of doing a lot of the work, I really did. I did a lot of the legwork because, and I remember it was... Maybe two, three, four years ago.
Ian MalcolmAnd I was sitting there and I was just like looking at every country across Central and South America. And I was like, no, no, no. Just like country after country with all the entanglements. And it didn't matter if it was Millet that everybody's familiar with now that is in Argentina. It didn't matter if it was Bukele who's down in Venezuela or who is it, Maduro that was in Venezuela.
Ian MalcolmYou go country by country by country. But Kelly's wife, of course, Miley Maduro. It didn't matter really where I looked. I just kept seeing the exact same pattern over and over and over again. And so I say it because it really is. It's one of these things. I think that people want to presume that this is some kind of project that kind of to your point about about Bobby Fischer.
Ian MalcolmThis isn't like I had a. Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian Malcolmand so on.
Ian MalcolmSo you're telling me all of these things that I've been very flustered with for a long time, whether it was demoralization in the media, mass migration, the indifference of seemingly both political parties to do anything to support the middle class, on and on, people getting fatter and unhealthier and suicide skyrocketing, all these other...
Ian MalcolmIt's like, wait a second, all of these social norms are going the wrong direction, maybe because the people in charge want that to happen, right? So then once you start to recognize that, you look around, you're like, so the very people that... are lying to me and telling me that they're going to make my world better. They work for people that want to destroy the very.
Ian MalcolmSo I just say it because it really was just the legwork of trying to find all those little puzzle pieces and then build that little thing. And then it was only once I understood the whole schema that then I was even able to be in a position to learn from people like Truth Teller or Ryan Dawson or Sam Parker, all these additional elements.
Ian MalcolmBut they really do such an amazing job.
@bobbyfischer_gmI like the architecture analogy because I mean you guys have all seen that meme where it's like the guy putting things together on the board and he looks really like crazy or whatever like I saw this pretty good one where it was like how I look like saying truth and it's like it's like Jesus it's like someone
@bobbyfischer_gmpotentially you know get really upset about it and in ways that other people will immediately jump on and be like oh my gosh you're crazy or you're paranoid or whatever so um but to tie back to what you were saying in the the the problems the problems and the actual you know state of affairs that we face kind of come first and then tracing back where these things come from is how we get to talking about the group of people that we're talking about not the other way around
@bobbyfischer_gmThey frame it as though, like you were saying, like, oh, you have some vendetta or some beef with this group of people for just because of their identity or just because of, you know, who they are, their culture or whatever. And that's that's bigotry. And so there's like there's no actual reason behind it. And it's all and it's also like making it seem like.
@bobbyfischer_gmYou know, if you're hating them because of who they are, you would apply that to all of them, which which you don't. And you have said over and over and over and over again that. You know, there's never an all thing. And I mean, one of my claims that I often make is that the whole, you know, concept that the whole, you know, word Jew and the concept of the Jewish people is also an inherently flawed, incoherent concept that many other people have, you know, broken down.
@bobbyfischer_gmWe had Mandy's amazing space of what, you know, was Jesus a Jew? And that goes into how this whole term is also just a term. I mean, forget about that outrageous claim, but... The term itself is incoherent, makes no sense, and is partly based on a bunch of rabbis saying things that I disagree with, right? So, you know, I'll say this as well because I forgot to say it before and it's pretty important.
@bobbyfischer_gmYou know, people have given me a lot of credit for being open about my ethnic heritage and some people have said, oh, you know, it's kind of crazy that you just go around saying that. I feel the need to be honest about it if I'm going to talk about this because effectively it does... It shouldn't be the case that it changes the dynamic in talking about it, but it is because of this same group of people that's constructed the fucking reality that we live in, you know, to put it bluntly.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo, yeah, I guess, can you help me circle back to whatever your last question was, Ian?
Ian MalcolmWow, that was really bizarre. The mute button was completely stuck. What you just walked through I thought was really, actually very, very, very valuable. This idea that the term has been so atomized in different ways and as a result trying to even understand, well, where do we use that? What do we refer to people of this thing?
Ian MalcolmThen we can look and it doesn't matter if we're talking about the Pharisees in the time of Christ. It doesn't matter if we come up through Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmI called by a higher power, right, for this idea of making the world anew, right? Tikkun Olaan. And so I'd be kind of curious for your thoughts on kind of the subculture as you understand it. And where does that stem from? And I say it because I've often bounced around this question. Is this something that's religious?
Ian Malcolmand it is you are chosen therefore it just gets drilled in over and over and over again and it becomes part of the personality or is it the culture where they are you know kind of likewise just uh kind of acclimated or educated to think such or is there an element of it that it is genetic and i know that that sounds strange but you know people just commonly they joke that white men can't jump i think it was white men can't dance white men can't
Speaker 2Yeah, that's the one I'm playing with.
Ian MalcolmAnd for what it's worth, I do think that a lot of those stereotypes are certainly perpetuated by the you-know-whos, right? Let's make the movie. Oh, yeah, let's just throw it around. The white guys can't... That being said, some of the great dancers and kind of rhythmic individuals, Michael Jackson included, were, of course, black.
Ian MalcolmBut there's lots of white men that can do all kinds of things. But in the Jewish community, I'm curious... What element of the behavioral expression, this idea of chosenness, do you think is religion versus culture versus genetics? And how did you either kind of see that amongst some of your peers or amongst the community?
Ian MalcolmAnd what has been kind of your experience because of that as you start speaking out maybe against it?
@bobbyfischer_gmExcellent, excellent question. I guess I very much agree with that being the question because the way that I framed it for a long time since I started really thinking about this is, is it biological or is it cultural? It's like the classic nature versus nurture thing. And I think it's a mix of both, of course, as with all these things.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut the cultural programming, the way that I've explained it is there is a cultural programming that goes far beyond the religion of Judaism. So this has a huge explanatory power for a lot of the stuff that you research and talk about, like the different industries, like your pinned tweet that talks about the different industries, the media, the banking system, pharmaceuticals, trade, you know, all these different industries.
@bobbyfischer_gmThe pattern, there's a significant pattern that it's a very particular Jew overwhelmingly in a lot of these things, and it's particularly in Ashkenazi... Thank you so much for joining us.
@bobbyfischer_gmThe cultural programming is so strong to a degree that a lot of Jews, including myself, were not even necessarily aware of how much they've been programmed, where that affects how they're going to behave within these different industries. And I've actually, I mean, I could, I could, there's even like religious Jews themselves even describe this phenomenon.
@bobbyfischer_gmThey have an explanation for this themselves, where they say, oh, these Jews, they have some sort of spiritual potential as Jews. And because they're not using that to be religious, they are letting evil forces start to dictate their behavior and seek power, whether it's money or fame or status or sexuality or these sort of worldly things.
@bobbyfischer_gmI've actually heard religious Jews say that, but I look at it more like there's a... And the caveat here is, well, before I say this, is I'm looking at this in a modern perspective because I was born in the 21st century. I don't, I view the past, like centuries and centuries past as something of much more of an unknown because I wasn't, I wasn't around then.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd, you know, we have historical data, but I don't think I have nearly as good of an understanding of what the situation was 80 years ago or 2000 years ago or 4000 years ago than I do right now. And I think in the current situation, the cultural programming that's been instilled in a variety of different Jewish communities, including all of the three main denominations that I mentioned, all of them,
@bobbyfischer_gmincluding the ones that are very non-religious is so extreme and emotionally charged and the narrative is essentially that the narrative is you know what the narrative is it's the narrative about anti-semitism and the the oppression narrative and that is actually the arguably the real religion here the more an even more powerful religion than the religion of judaism and that's particularly true of the non-religious communities
@bobbyfischer_gmLike the Reform and the Conservative because of the fact that they're less religious in a strict religious sense of Judaism, Talmudic Judaism, Rabbinics, Orthodoxy, etc. But they still have a very strong belief system in their Jewish cultural identity. So what is that? That's, as actually a friend of mine has called it, the Holocaust religion.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd it's not even to, that term itself is not even to question the event itself. It's just to say that that's... the real religion behind it. That's the ultimate unquestionable. That's the ultimately what's sacred. That's the thing that if you blaspheme against it, you'll be punished because reform Jews, they're not as religious as the other ones.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo yeah, I think that's a good foundation for that. So that's the cultural programming side of things. Now, the genetic side of things, our friend Rabbi [guest] says, gave me an excellent explanation to this that it felt like it was filling in a gap that I already knew this was true, but he explained it really well. And I would just adopt that.
@bobbyfischer_gmHe said, there's aspects of this that have basically gotten formalized into culture. So it's a fact that borderline personality disorder, narcissistic personality disorder, et cetera, we know that those things have a genetic basis and have a genetically heritable pattern. They can be passed down genetically with varying strengths or whatever.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd it's just a known fact that there's a lot of genetic diseases in general among especially Ashkenazi Jews, which is the same ones we're talking about. And it's less so among other groups like Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews. And those things are obviously going to have an impact on the culture. It's more like determining the exact appropriate
@bobbyfischer_gmyou know measurement of of culture and biology and how those things intersect and how they how they work together that determines like what our narrative should be about it because when you start talking about the genetics and you you acknowledged it yourself that once you start talking about the genetics of it it potentially um i guess gets more controversial or it gets more um people will start to object more because because you know a biological essentialist claim is essentially what
@bobbyfischer_gmI guess you might want to avoid if you, well, if you want to not get banned on Twitter, but more importantly, like if you want to have maybe a safer or I would argue a more responsible narrative because, you know, a biological essentialist narrative, that to me is definitely where it goes into dangerous territory. And not just with Jews, with anyone, because biological essentialism is saying that because of the way someone is genetically, that like predetermines who they will be and what they will be.
@bobbyfischer_gmin a way that's immutable. And I don't believe that at all about pretty much any group of people. I do think there are such things as generational curses and genetic predispositions and all other kind of stuff like that. But- You said you do believe in that. No, no, I said I don't believe in that.
Ian MalcolmOh, you don't, okay, okay, okay. I was gonna say, well, and one that, so generational curses, That off the board, Greg, because that's veering into supernatural, of course. But there is that idea of either you could think of it as like trauma bonding or generational trauma. And I know there have been studies around that that might link back to things like cortisol levels and other kind of genetic expressions that, you know, they're very demonstrable and kind of scientifically based.
Ian MalcolmI'd be curious if you think that there could be anything built in there, whether it might be I want to be careful how I word this. Essentially, at one point, let's think of it this way, there was a societal animus towards the other people, let's just say. And I think that would, loosely speaking, be kind of the Western Europeans.
Ian MalcolmAnd that essentially got past... Thank you for joining us.
Ian MalcolmYou know, within mammals, they know that you can basically, you can genetically breed for temperance, right? So you could have a group of animals. You could take pit bulls, for example, and try to find the nicest of the pit bulls and just only exclusively breed the nicest, most docile of pit bulls. And eventually you'd probably get to a point where you would get rid of some of the tendencies for violence, or you could go the opposite direction.
Ian MalcolmAnd Rabbi [guest], I don't want to misquote him, but I think His basic thought was that somewhere built in that this was a, you know, that you basically had a straight, an inclination for the continued perpetuation of that kind of temperament or again, in-group bias mixed with an out-group kind of resentment or animosity.
Ian MalcolmI'm curious what your thoughts are on that. Cause again, it's not, you know, it's not a spiritual element. It's more just the science and the data.
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, that's a good question. But before I get to that, I actually wanted to just clear up. When I was talking about the generational curses, I got confused whether you were asking me, but I did say, yes, I do believe in that. But I was more thinking of like a generational trauma sort of phrasing. Like, I think you're right to stay away from looking at it as a quote unquote generational curse.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I was kind of not thinking of what the implications of that might be. But I was thinking more of more in the sense of like, just there can be there can be Thank you for joining us.
@bobbyfischer_gmI don't think that's unique to Jews, though. But I do agree with that. I mean, a combination of genetic and cultural factors is going to affect the next generation of any group of people. In the case of this group, I mean, I would say as a general principle, the more insular a group is and the more it resists assimilation or resists genetic diversity,
@bobbyfischer_gmThe more extreme that phenomenon will be, kind of just naturally, right? And so the lack of genetic diversity that's well-documented, which has partly led to these well-documented genetic diseases and stuff, that's partly what causes this. There's also a whole literature about lack of genetic diversity also giving rise to the potential of super geniuses.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo that's actually one of these things that happens in like some of these, Royal Bloodlines and stuff that they're like super into like interbreeding and stuff. There's a possibility of like creating super geniuses every once in a while. And so that's potentially part of this as well. But to answer your question more about the in-group, out-group dynamic of it, that's another very important factor of this is similar to how I was describing that the cultural factors in some ways transcend or
@bobbyfischer_gmreach beyond the bounds of just the religion the tribal factors which is which is more of a biological evolutionary thing that also transcends it to some degree where you know it's not just called a tribe it's called the tribe right and it's the classic like term for it The Tribe.
Ian MalcolmIt's like the guys that go to The U, whatever school that is, right? They're throwing the V in front of it. It's like, yeah, we're the big dogs, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmExactly. And The U always refers to whatever U is the one that you're supposed to have gone to in whatever area you are. But The Tribe is like the environment of the neighborhood that that encompasses is like, what, the entire world or all of history? I never really understood what the bounds of that was supposed to be because...
@bobbyfischer_gmThere's a lot of other tribes, right? But yeah, so the idea of it being the tribe, I think, is ultimately more of a fundamental construct of the whole thing, or a more powerful construct than even the religion itself in some ways. Because, you know, it's the idea of a people, like a people per se. And a people that... within the culture and religion and reinforced by the religion has being loyal to members of said tribe as one of the most, you know, one of the most important values or whatever, which kind of, you know, I understand the irony of me talking about that while I'm doing this space, but that's going to go into my whole point here is that the part of the mental illness that I'm talking about is it's always people that are in power.
@bobbyfischer_gmthat get to like create all the rules and decide what all the rules are for these sorts of things right so it's like history is written by the victors so whoever gets into power they decide what the tribe is they decide what parameters the tribe operates under they decide who they want to kick out of the tribe and and they decide who's a good jew and who's a bad jew and all kinds of other things and my thesis about this or part of my thesis is that
@bobbyfischer_gmThere is a group of extremely evil people, a group of Satanists, whatever you want to call them, that have basically figured out that being in control of this tribe as a tribe per se, and importantly, being in control of the perception of this tribe, being in control of people perceiving them as this tribe. There's a lot of different ways I've tried to phrase it, and I'm still working on it, admittedly, but that is...
@bobbyfischer_gmThat is partly what explains where we are, Ian. And you've kind of mentioned this yourself in previous spaces, and please correct me if I'm misquoting you, but it's not really clear to us at all that all the people and all the graphics and all the research that you have, Ian, and that we all look at are even really legitimate claimants to the identity that they're claiming to be, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd so that's why I said before that When we start to go back further in the past, when we go to Second Temple Judaism and First Temple and the Middle Ages and all these different historical time periods, I'm genuinely not nearly as confident about my understanding of what the situation was back then compared to what it is now.
@bobbyfischer_gmWhat it is now is exactly what I just described. And I believe that with full certainty, as much as I've ever believed anything. And I was actually, before I forget, I was going to go through... A couple of different revelations that I've had about this whole thing. I've already kind of told this to you Ian and a couple other people, but maybe the listeners don't know.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo, you know, a couple of years ago, the whole COVID phenomenon, right? And that was an active extreme evil upon the world, obviously. If you haven't realized that, I can't help you. That isn't for this space. And very much like all these other problems, it's like the problem comes first. You know, we see the evil. And then we're like, why does this evil exist?
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I actually just shared recently the video of, I think it was Christopher Wood going to that, like, I don't know if it was a courtroom or what, but he just goes through all these different people that were in high ranking positions in the COVID thing, like Albert Bourla and all these other people. And he's just like, dual citizen of Israel, Jew, dual citizen of Israel, Jew.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd he just goes through all these facts and they try to cut him off during it. And he's like, what am I, like, I'm not saying anything offensive. Saying Jew isn't offensive. How is that offensive? and they let him keep going and he just says all the rest of the names. And what I said about it is I was like, I don't, I have some theories about what the potential, you know, meta narrative of why that's the case might be.
@bobbyfischer_gmI do, but there's no denying the pattern. There's no denying the existence of these facts. And that's partly why I just think it's so silly when people try to do so. So the whole COVID experience, right? I still wasn't really sure what it all meant. And then, of course, a couple of years after that, the October 7th event, planned event, false flag event, obviously.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd it was partly because of my knowledge of these other things, the COVID and other things. The COVID stuff kind of sent me into the big pharma is bad, alternative health sphere. And that's kind of where I was researching for a while. And so when... When this October 7th thing kicked off, I was like, oh, this is an obvious, they obviously let it happen on purpose to justify a war of annihilation.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd then I started to research more about the Israeli government. And I had already been somewhat aware of that whole situation. My perspective on it before that is I was just like, I was just kind of done with like Judaism and Jewish culture for the most part. Like I was just like, look, I was never really that religious.
@bobbyfischer_gmI'm kind of out of it. I'm just, it's not really relevant to my life anymore. And I didn't really necessarily want to dive back into it in any sense or even the one that I'm doing right now, but I feel compelled to because I do know some stuff about it that I think can help this conversation. And I'll just land with this.
@bobbyfischer_gmAt the time, I actually did talk to some people about that, some Jews about that. that I was kind of having a social relationship with. I was kind of, I was going to one of these like kind of adults, it's kind of like a youth group, but it's like for 20 somethings. And I was just going there for social reasons. I was doing the thing where I was like, I've disengaged so much with Judaism for so long.
@bobbyfischer_gmI just want to have some sort of like positive social experience. And it was one of these more like liberal places. I was like, oh, I just want to like make friends, maybe party a little bit, whatever, right? When this happened, I was like, guys, you realize this was allowed to happen on purpose, right? You're not that retarded, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmThey immediately freaked out and started calling me an anti-Semite. Not a self-hating Jew, an anti-Semite. They were like, you're an anti-Semite. You're repeating Hamas propaganda, etc., etc., etc. They just freaked the fuck out. I was like, you guys are retarded. This border is surveilled. It took them six hours to respond.
@bobbyfischer_gmYou're basically saying, oh yeah, the Mossad was just really dumb and You know, drop the ball. I'm like, that's just an insult to our intelligence. And so that's what I said at the time. They didn't like it. And then I was like, oh, OK, I'm starting to get why this whole concept exists. Like, this is probably why, you know, the quote unquote anti-Semitism, that whole narrative.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's where I was like, OK, I kind of get it now. I kind of get why this is bullshit. And it wasn't that I necessarily believed in it wholeheartedly before that. I just. didn't really think about it. It just wasn't really relevant to me. But of course now it's relevant to everyone. And this is, I know I said I was gonna land, but I have one more thing and then I'll land with this.
@bobbyfischer_gmI thought that this whole thing that I'm talking about was like much more limited. Like I thought it was limited in scope to Jewish people. Like I thought it was limited to like, this is something that only me and other people that have similar backgrounds to me would even think about. I didn't think that like the whole fucking world would like,
@bobbyfischer_gmI didn't think that millions and millions of people that are not from this background would be talking about this and this would be a worldwide phenomenon. You know what I mean? That might be kind of a weird concept to even talk about, but it was very shocking to me that that's the case and that's partly why I feel like I have to talk about it because it turns out it actually is relevant to everyone.
@bobbyfischer_gmfor reasons that I wish were not the case. So I guess I'll just take another pause there, Ian.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and I mean, look, I would go back to Bobby Fischer's sentiments and basically ask, because the way that I, if I tried to break this down to 50,000 or 500,000, let's go way up feet, right? I agree with Bobby Fischer's sentiments that essentially the Jews are a criminal mafia. that are trying to take over the world and that are weaponizing the United States as one of the biggest kind of pieces of their arsenal, in particular due to the Federal Reserve against such.
Ian MalcolmAnd when I say the Jews, you know, I'm always very clear that it's Jewish supremacy and that within that you have a lot of individuals that are Jewish who benefit from Jewish supremacy. You've got some that are basically the Shabbos Goy that are, let's say, personally benefiting, even if they are You know, their turncoats, so to say, against their fellow man.
Ian MalcolmAnd so as a result, the challenge is that we're basically up against a machine that for its own self-preservation is going to lie, while all of the people that are going to benefit from the lie being perpetuated have been essentially propagandized to believe that they're forever the victims, meaning that whenever we, the people that are losing in this equation, speak out against it.
Ian MalcolmThe people that are part of, let's say, Jewish supremacy are benefiting from it. They feel aggressed upon, even though all we're doing is trying to defend the good is probably the right way to think about it. Right. And so the thing that's weird is it shouldn't be, this shouldn't be a zero sum game, right? Like we should all be able to agree that Jewish supremacists don't get to enslave the world.
Ian MalcolmRejecting that is perfectly reasonable and that the Jewish supremacist people, whether it's those that are actually manipulating all of this and the Rothschilds and all of those others, or if it's just the average Israeli Jew who's going to benefit from Israel getting to enslave the rest of the world, right? Like, like here's a good way to think about it.
Ian MalcolmIn Israel, people are basically given free education, free healthcare, free almost everything. Off the Back of the Suffering of the American People, not to mention essentially Western Europe because Germany, of course, is paying immense reparations as well. So what does that mean? All of the people in Israel are directly benefiting because the psychopathic Rothschild and the other Jewish elite have set up a schema where these people that are in Israel get to benefit from the suffering of everybody else.
Ian MalcolmAnd so the challenge there is very much like a spoiled kid. Right. That has only ever been like, let's think of the, uh, the Trump kids, right? I presume it's probably a safe, safe assumption, right? These kids that have grown up with the silver spoon, the moment that you say, no, I'm not going to hold the door for you.
Ian MalcolmThey feel aggressed upon just because everybody's always catered to them. Right. And so we basically have a situation now where because of the sociopaths at the top who control the banking and the politicians and the media and the schema and all the rest of it, right? We basically have a, we have a civilizational problem.
Ian MalcolmWhere a group of people who have been endlessly brainwashed to think that they're the victims of everything are actually the beneficiaries of all the enslavement of the masses. And then when the slaves are saying, this isn't a good deal for us, we don't want to participate anymore. The people that are essentially the slave masters, whether it's the one that set up the system or those that merely benefit from it, they say, woe is us.
Ian MalcolmWhy do you hate us? And so it creates a really, really nefarious state of affairs where
Ian MalcolmThat propagandizes all of essentially the slaves, the non-Jews who don't benefit from the system, that they shouldn't ever notice the pattern of control, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmWow, so many things to respond to, Ian. That's crazy. And I want to be conscious. I know there's hands up, and I want to, I guess, have you open it up and get people to respond in a sec. But the paranoia is huge, right? Because, like I already mentioned, the... in some sense the real religion behind it is this persecution complex and it's just a well-known fact that again is not necessarily unique to Jews but is extremely pronounced and this might be the ultimate example of it that the more of a victim you think you are the more oppressed and aggrieved you believe yourself to be that proportionally makes you think you're justified in you know potentially being aggressive to somebody else or do you
@bobbyfischer_gmTaking more power to prevent said threat or to striking your enemy first because you like preemptively because you know they're going to attack you, etc. And that turns into a self-fulfilling prophecy because, you know, it's like, Ian, if I think that you're going to come attack me or something, God forbid, I feel like, oh, well, I need to like arm myself up and create this like nuclear armed fucking insane state first before you do that, even though I don't actually have any evidence that you particularly are going to do that.
@bobbyfischer_gmum and then and then me arming myself up and doing all kinds of other you know illegal and immoral and criminal things in doing so well then you might not be so happy about that and then i look at you and be like oh well you you found out that i did a bunch of illegal things to to to do this you you hate me and you were always gonna hate me and now i i've now it justifies my whole thing recursively of why i hated you to begin with it's like the most incessant
@bobbyfischer_gmFucking mentally ill, paranoid, circular scheme you can even imagine. This is what I was saying. I've been aware of this sort of pattern for a long time because this type of thing also manifests itself in interpersonal relationships on a lower scale, on a microcosm. And I never really fully understood that this may be
@bobbyfischer_gmA pattern that's so important to world history or fucking global politics or something on that scale.
@bobbyfischer_gmIt wasn't on my radar to the same degree. And so I feel like I've been going through a similar awakening that a lot of other people are to this because I genuinely didn't know that this was the case to this degree. I wanted to make a few other points. The brainwashing of it, you know, it's sort of a multi-layered thing, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmBecause like Ian, you and other people that talk about like the Jews, and I'm just going to say, I think that phrasing it like that has always had really poor optics. It doesn't say anything about it being true or not true. I mean, Bobby Fischer himself used that term. And I already made the point that, you know, he didn't care about optics.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd that's probably why I like the guy. He was just kind of unhinged. And I think that's a good thing because people weren't so sensitive, right? It's like I say, oh, you know, the Norwegians control something. Nobody cares because they know I'm talking about a certain group of Norwegian people or whatever, right? But if it's the Jews, then it's, oh, you're saying it's all Jews and you hate everyone and it's like an instant freak out, you know?
Ian MalcolmI do. And isn't it funny because if people said the Norwegians, there would be no concerns, right? Or if it was the aliens or the anything. And it's almost, I find this interesting because... And I always aim for Jewish supremacy, right? Because I think that is something that everybody should be able to get behind and mixed in there.
Ian MalcolmThere's certainly there's individuals that aren't Jewish and it's not all Jews that participate in Jewish supremacy, yourself being a perfect representation of how that's the case. But isn't it curious because the very fact that the Jews parentheses that that is distasteful, it demonstrates the control that they have. Right?
Ian MalcolmBecause the whole knee-jerk reaction, oh, I can't say that, is because we've been programmed to avoid it, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah. And that really gives away the whole game. And it's sort of a subtle thing that it's hard for some people to even grasp that. They genuinely think that, oh, well, the reason that it's so taboo to talk about Jews is because of the inherent persecution of Jewish people. But they don't understand that, well,
@bobbyfischer_gmI guess I'll end it there because I know I'm conscious of time.
Ian MalcolmBobby, that was what you just said. So I fully agree with you on that. And through personal, I don't usually share personal experiences. I remember during COVID giving people my thoughts on, guys, I don't see this being a good thing. And I remember there were so many obvious ones, right? Oh, it's safe and effective. And it's like, wait a second.
Ian MalcolmYou told me you just came up with it three months ago. How do you know there's no long-term or midterm side effects? That doesn't make any sense. Right. And, uh, and I remember all these people thought I was crazy for it. And, uh, and I say it because to your point about it's far easier to just presume that some of these concerns are crazy because otherwise people have to consider the fact that there are nefarious forces.
Ian Malcolmthat are actively in control of the pharmaceutical companies, the media, the politicians, the academic institutions, all of the power structures that we would look to, to try and understand the world around us, that all of those could be colluding against us. And I remember somebody asking me, they said, well, so what if you're right with regards to COVID, right?
Ian MalcolmThat was their question. And I said, well, if I'm, if I'm writing, this is a really dangerous thing that they're trying to put in everybody's arms. I mean, what do you mean? What happens? Like, it should be pretty obvious. And their claim was, and I'll never forget this. They said, well, if you're right, then you're just going to be the only, because my suggestion was that this was ultimately going to maim everybody, if not kill everybody, right?
Ian MalcolmThat was essentially, very loosely speaking, that was kind of my thesis, was that the vaccine was going to be designed for either, you could think of it like ethnic cleansing, sterilization, whatever. It's going to be something really nefarious, right? and their, their, their question was, well, if you're right, do you really want to be the only person alive?
Ian MalcolmAnd I remember thinking to myself that the person I was talking to was so terrified of the concept that I was, was sharing, right? It was so concerning to them that maybe these interests are not always completely benevolent, that it was, it was more comfortable for them to just swallow. Well, if it gets us, oh, well, it gets us, but at least we're all going to go together.
Ian MalcolmRight? That that was easier for them to consider than to pause and take a moment to think, well, what would be the consequences if this person was right? And I'll, I'll never forget that as long as I live. Cause they were almost, it was almost like they were suggesting that they would rather not only go through kind of accepting the lies that that was just easier to do, but they were almost kind of haunting that
Ian MalcolmIf I was right, it wouldn't be worth spending the energy to try and get to the bottom of it so that they could live longer, if that makes sense.
@bobbyfischer_gmThey can't handle the trauma of it. To actually believe that, yeah, people are being injected all over the world with a vaccine that literally causes heart problems and stuff. I actually met Dr. Peter McCullough. I had the privilege of meeting him. I went to one of his conferences where he was a guest speaker. And... You know, it's just as simple as he was one of the most published, if not the most published cardiologist in the country.
@bobbyfischer_gmHe said it was unsafe. And then they took away his his medical license for medical misinformation. And, you know, it's kind of funny. And at the time, you know, my theory was at the time is I realized that the state of Israel, as it turns out, was the most heavily vaccinated country in the world. And so my theory at the time was I was like, oh.
@bobbyfischer_gmMaybe they're testing it out on the Jews. That was my theory at the time because I didn't know what it was. It is true that Netanyahu bragged about using Israel as a lab for Pfizer. There's many things that can be true at once. I think they did test it out on a bunch of Israelis. It's also true that a bunch of Israelis are genocidal maniacs and that whole society is totally evil for the most part with few exceptions.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo I don't really have much sympathy for it at this point. It's a wild world. But anyway.
Ian MalcolmNo, it really is. Speaking of Israel, I saw a comment that was made. There's a video by Ryan Dawson who I don't always agree on with everything, but the guy's done unbelievable research. He's been ahead of the curve in many cases by decades on a lot of this stuff. He was talking about this and he said, you know, and he's going through the PR nightmare.
Ian MalcolmI just thought it was really funny because he's right. Like,
Ian MalcolmEverything that comes out of there, I just presume almost all of it de facto is a lie at this point because it really is. It's just misinformation after misinformation after gaslighting. But when it comes to the COVID vaccine, you know, we can't help but notice that they were the only nation on earth that had increasing birth rates after being vaccinated.
Ian MalcolmAnd there was also, of course, the study that even RFK referenced where there's basically The COVID vaccine had differing impacts on differing individuals based on differing genetics, right? There was clearly some kind of genetic targeting that was built into it. And the Ashkenazi Jews were just one of the groups of the two that basically were unfazed by it.
Ian MalcolmSo there's a lot of it that it does look very, very nefarious. The other thing, I don't know if you ever looked into this, but if you haven't looked into Borla's background, he's a Sephardic Jew. and Albert Bourla prior to his role at Pfizer. He was, of course, in their animal health division. And I kid you not, he was working at Improvac, I think was the name of the drug, which he helped launch.
Ian MalcolmHe was the director of and was a animal sterilization drug. I'm not even remotely kidding when I suggest that. And so you just look at it and you're like, wait a second. He was working to sterilize animals via a vaccine that, oh, by the way, required
Ian Malcolmthat is the concept that we share, which is basically that we all live in this matrix designed to enslave us and basically turn us into the battery like the matrix. On the flip side, the individuals that are in the, let's say the in group of Jewish supremacy, they are eternally programmed and brainwashed to think that everybody else is out to get them.
Ian MalcolmAnd so if you think for a second of how people have the knee jerk reaction to even the word Jew, they find it distasteful and uncomfortable to even say, I can completely understand why the people that are Jewish with the programming that they receive, that they would have the knee jerk reaction where the moment anybody says the word Jew, that they are equally kind of terrified of it, right?
Ian MalcolmSo I almost say that giving kind of empathy towards the people that are on the other side of the brainwashing. And I don't think a whole lot of them are going to join our cause, but any that will, it's why I will always be completely open arms to anybody and everybody that's willing to just speak out against this issue, because I really I don't care if it's Jew or Gentile, white or black, Christian or Muslim.
Ian MalcolmYou know, we need to do this for humanity because at the end of the day, whether and I think you and I maybe have a slight difference here, which is totally fine. Right. Like, I love the different opinions because that's how we get to the truth. But whether it is that. There is a satanic Luciferian group of people that have hijacked this group of people that maybe, and you made a really interesting comment, right?
Ian MalcolmThe idea that perhaps the Jews were the perfect people to hijack because of maybe some of these ethnic predispositions. But however it is, the thing that we have to recognize is that the satanic Luciferian, the Epstein class, the globalists, whatever you want to call them, these people are They're demonstrably destroying Western civilization.
Ian MalcolmAnd I know that that sounds hyperbolic, but there's really no other way to describe it. And the truth of the matter is that if you think of the world kind of evaporating to nothingness, right, where everything becomes the second or the third world, we lose all understandings of nations, of races, of civilizations. We all just become the nebulous surf class that this kind of satanic group seems to want to make us.
Ian MalcolmIt's a loss for everybody except for the world's richest people that just want to enslave everyone.
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, absolutely. So I'm going to make two really important points, like rapid fire, and then I know we have to get to the hands. And I'm so sorry for the long rant, but I totally agree with you. It's like a two-tiered thing where the people that are within this group and whose identities are kind of given to them, which is very important, the idea of having your identity given to you, somebody else telling you, you're a Jew, this is your identity.
@bobbyfischer_gmand I'll just end with this. I mean, the ultimate awakening that I had about this whole thing was reading the New Testament for the first time, because this whole deconstruction has already been done. And the reason for this continued spiritual corruption is because these people rejected the New Testament. And so the difference that you kind of described a few moments ago, it might be an actual difference, but it's something that I'm also still refining my perspective on.
@bobbyfischer_gmI'm not actually sure if my perspective that it's a group of people that have done this identity fraud or whatever, and it actually just being the modern day Jews per se, I don't really know if those things are even different. It's partly a problem with our language. But anyway, yeah, I guess you can go ahead.
Ian MalcolmI love it. And in all sincerity, so my friend, Mr. Bobby Fisher, I'm always so humbled that I get to speak with you, brother. and we'll open it up to some questions for the man, the myth, the legend and Bobby, if nothing else, what I would really appreciate is always anytime you are free coming back in, joining these panels, providing your perspective and doing so as you're looking, like you said at the beginning of the space, at the chessboard, right?
Ian MalcolmTrying to understand what is taking place and I can promise not only you, but everybody From the very offset of all of this, with the exception of the gaslighting that I've received from some of the people that try to push back on, let's say, these ideas without intellect, right? It's just gaslighting and undermining and obfuscation.
Ian MalcolmI certainly can get emotional towards that, let's say, individual. But it's never been emotion that has driven any of my approach to this issue. to the various aspects of it and to my attempts to resolve it. It is merely coming from an attempt to understand the world pragmatically and honestly and to try and figure out how to make the world a better place for everybody.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I really do, I try to push away people that come in, especially those that have radical language and for what it's worth. The craziest piece about all of this is that five or so years ago, the only real people that talked about this issue at all were essentially the neo-Nazi white nationalists that would call themselves the 1488 audience.
Ian MalcolmAnd then very, very, very fringe academic efforts, right? And aside from that, there's basically nothing. And the fact that we're now able to have these conversations in a way where to your point, we can deconstruct reality. We can say, here is the data, right? Here is where the world is going. I don't like the direction it's taking.
Ian MalcolmThe world finally makes sense.
Ian MalcolmAnd that's why I just try to continuously understand it as best I can, refine it with wonderful people like yourself. But Bobby, let's go to some of the hands. We'll start, of course, with your fan favorite, Mr. Rabbi Milstein. Then we will go back up to Andy.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut before we check... Milstone, I got to correct that.
Ian MalcolmOh, Milstone. And I got you, apologies. But Joanne, anything that I might have missed before we go to Rabbi Milstone?
@joann_marieNo, this has been such an amazing space and I... There was some amazing runs there. So no, thank you so much, Bobby. And yeah, I would like to know maybe some other time, maybe like how it was when, when I know you didn't want to go into your like personal life, but I am like so curious and how like the brainwashing came undone, even though that, that you were not in, in, oh my God, you called it a different thing.
@joann_marieIt's not the orthodox and it's not, it's the conservative. Yeah. It was another name. It wasn't conservative either. I don't remember. Reform, yes. So I guess it wasn't that bad, but I still... It's just so interesting to me how these people have absolutely no self-awareness or they're always the victims.
@bobbyfischer_gmI could expand on it quite a bit. I mean, I really barely scratched the surface in this space.
@joann_marieYes, I would love that.
Ian MalcolmYeah, Bobby, because I know you wanted to get some questions, but we'll have to set up a follow up to this on the genetics as best you understand. And maybe we can get Rabbi [guest] in on that one. And I would love to try and reverse engineer because, you know, one of the challenges, if we think of this like a race to the finish line, it's either going to be the totalitarian psychopaths or we're going to awaken people to the reality of what they're trying to do.
Ian MalcolmWe need to understand the vehicle. Thank you, Ian. Nice to see you, JoAnn.
Ian MalcolmI know that voice. Absolutely superstar.
@1_1savedbygraceAbsolutely. Thank you. Bobby, you and I have chatted at length in small spaces, big spaces.
Speaker 3Rabbi Millstone, I can't with you. Who's that? Kaplan. I love you, buddy. Keep going.
@1_1savedbygraceKaplan, how are you?
Speaker 3I love you. Keep going, man.
@1_1savedbygraceLove you, too. Bobby, so... My main question here is, and this is not a trick question, guys, because Bobby and I have chatted about this at length, and I have expressed and shared a position in my faith with Bobby, but in a way, in a very human and loving way. And we have discussed Christ and his teachings at length. So I just wanted to know from Bobby through this journey that he's on, how this journey has led him to the cross, not in a religious way, in a way where, how do you now view the teachings of Christ compared to how you used to?
@bobbyfischer_gmThank you so much for the question. And I will say that that was something I made sure to tell you guys that I thought the New Testament was the greatest awakening of all, of all the other awakenings. And I wanted to get to all the hands because I feel bad keeping everyone waiting, but that's like a whole other space on its own.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I guess I'll just speed run this question. I don't necessarily want to, but, you know, the The quote-unquote Jewish community or whatever you want to call it, being in that sort of milieu, this is something that a lot of young people, including myself, naturally picked up on various things that makes them uncomfortable or that makes them question the community.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd again, not necessarily unique to this particular group of people, but for me, as I already mentioned, it's like I always had a thought that these people are making long prayers and they wear certain clothing and they have all these displays, but I'm sensing that who they actually are as people is not necessarily consistent with how they're displaying themselves.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd then when I finally read the New Testament, you know, 20 years later or 15 years later or whatever, it literally like Jesus literally says that in almost the exact same words. And so something that I just thought was something that bothered me in my head and maybe a few other people I was friends with had similar concerns or similar
@bobbyfischer_gmNot only was that totally a true conclusion I came to, but that's actually a core of why these people are the way they are, because they reject a corrective mechanism that tried to tell them not to be that way. And that's just one example. They care about the Sabbath so much, and Jesus said, I think it's like an animal, like if a lamb is to fall into a ravine on the Sabbath, are you not going to lift it up?
@1_1savedbygraceIf your friend's donkey falls into a pit, would you not, on the Sabbath, help pick it up?
@bobbyfischer_gmkind of an incomprehensible anger. Or I don't mean incomprehensible in that I can't comprehend it. More of like, it's hard to comprehend how intense it is because I thought, oh, I get it. This is why they censor that and make it taboo is because it calls them out in an extremely beautiful and accurate way. And there's so many other good ones.
@bobbyfischer_gmLike they make themselves look good on the outside, but inwardly they're ravenous wolves and all these other analogies and... And I could go on and on and on and on. And folks like Mandy and Rabbi Millstone could recite chapter and verse the whole thing.
@1_1savedbygraceJust one follow-up, and then I'll let others go. The other follow-up is, how have people like myself, and I'm sure many others who share this, who try to live by not always well, Not often well, actually. By this golden rule that Jesus spoke of, love God with all your heart and then love your neighbor as yourself. I'll just speak for myself.
@1_1savedbygraceHow has the way that I've communicated with you, and this is not to toot my own horn, guys. I just want you to get Bobby's perspective. How has the way that I've communicated with you about these things changed?
@1_1savedbygraceIt's been tremendous.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I'll just tell you guys all right now. I mean, there's a reason that I made sure to tell you guys all to support Rabbi. I can't believe I'm calling him Rabbi. Everyone's changing their username to that. But the millstone guy at the beginning of this space, because when I saw he was here, I was a little bit nervous about doing this space.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd there's a lot of people here. Obviously, I don't know a lot. There are a lot of people that are here. Thank you so much brother and and all the other people that have supported me with this means a lot and and just providing a forceful
@bobbyfischer_gmThere's so many people that I've found on here that I just have figured out I'm almost immediately in line with because we're angered by the exact same thing. We're on the same journey. We've identified the same problems. We've been long frustrated and angered by the same injustices. That was definitely the case with this individual and many others.
Ian MalcolmBobby, really quickly, one thing and then we're going to do... I think either Mr. Kaplan, if I'm remembering the order right. But you mentioned there's something interesting, which was you and Rabbi were going back and forth about essentially following not the principle of something, but rather squabbling over the details there within.
Ian MalcolmAnd that idea of pill poll, I find it so baffling. I'm curious for your thoughts really quickly on if you think that there might be is that purely cultural or is there something genetic going on there with the thought process of some of these people? Because, you know, I'll look at something and be like, oh, it's a cheese pizza.
Ian MalcolmAnd they're like, well, how do you know it's a pizza? And I'm like, well, I mean, it's circular and it's got the cheese on top of it. And, you know, and just squabbling over the strangest elements of something rather than noting the obvious, even when everybody else around the table was like, What are you talking about, dickhead?
Ian MalcolmIt's a pizza, right? Like, I can't understand it at times.
@bobbyfischer_gmAutist maxing, which I'm quite a fan of. I'm not even disparaging that, but no, in all seriousness, the explanation for it is, and this is partly why I was saying it's somewhat of an identity fraud situation. The people that Jesus is talking to are the Pharisees. Pharisee means lawyer. So these are the lawyers who are like super nitpicky, you know, autists that are really good at
@bobbyfischer_gmLegal language and loopholes and stuff like that, right?
@1_1savedbygraceSounds like a congressman and women, Bobby.
@bobbyfischer_gmRight, right. Yeah, it's definitely like Trump's lawyer and people like that, right? So that's who these people are, like literally. And so what they've done is they've, these are the people that have created a monopoly over this identity. And they want to make it so that the non-Pharisaical Jews, the ones that actually accepted Christ originally, are no longer considered Jews.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd that's part of this whole problem. But I'm going to land it because I have to request it.
Ian MalcolmFascinating suggestion there. Let's go to Mr. Kaplan.
Speaker 2Yeah, man, I just want to be brief. I think what you're doing in these spaces is really impressive. And I've said some really mean things about you behind your back. I told you to your face, essentially, via DM that I didn't really care for the way you do things. Man, what you're doing is really impressive and I hope you keep it up.
Speaker 2You were right in your methodology and I was wrong and I hope you keep doing it.
@1_1savedbygraceMr. Kaplan, you better never be mean to Bobby Fischer again, bro.
@bobbyfischer_gmWell, thank you so much, Mr. Kaplan. I have to be totally honest. I've seen you around, but I don't actually remember...
Speaker 2Mr. Kaplan, Mav, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Raed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven, PVG
Ian MalcolmI want to say I welcome harsh criticism as well. Don't pull any punches. If someone has a good objection, I want to hear it.
@joann_marieI don't remember either, and I normally make like my mental list of people who say bad things.
@bobbyfischer_gmI've seen Andy for a long time. I would request we go to him.
@froemelandySure, let's go to Andy. Yes, I have a good one. So just about like how these people are so desperate for money. In the mail, my family got something from the Fellowship for Christians and Jews, and it plays into every single stereotype. It said, urgent help. For God's chosen people on the envelope and then said, I will bless those who bless Israel.
@froemelandyGenesis 12, 3. And then it literally says, make an impact by helping feed hungry elderly Jews. And it goes into a huge spiel about how someone fled the Nazis and is an elderly person who's 90 something year old and starving. And it's like, first of all, if you're God's chosen people, why do you need money? Raed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven
@froemelandyHey, you guys just shouldn't get special status. We should all be treated as equals. It's like, you're anti-Semitic. There's going to be another Holocaust. And it's like, no, everyone should just be treated equally. You shouldn't kill children. That's wrong. That's the point that we're at as a society. But again, they've been brainwashed since birth to believe that they're special.
@froemelandyAnd if you tell them they're not special, they freak out. And I mean, from... The end of World War II, 1945 to 2023, they were basically immune from criticism, but then they started bombing children in 4K and everyone saw the clips on TikTok, X, Instagram, whatever social media, other platforms that people use around the world.
@froemelandyAnd then people are like, hey, wait a minute, why are these people just bombing and killing women and children? And then they're like, whoa, you're anti-Semitic. And then we're like, what are you talking about? How is it anti-Semitic to not want to kill kids, not want to kill women, not want to shoot people getting aid, and then it made people go deeper down the rabbit hole, and then people looked into the central bank and everything else, and they completely overplayed their hand.
@froemelandyIf they just let people criticize a genocide without immediately being labeled as anti-Semitic, then a lot less of their web would have been exposed. But again, since World War II, just the anti... Semi label used to shut people up and now it doesn't anymore but now it's any now it's just so overused like you had Smotrich the other day call everyone in Gaza Nazis it's like you're calling starving children Nazis it's he said everyone in Gaza is a Nazi yeah starving child is and again that term Nazi has been completely misconstrued because we know that pretty much everything we've been told is a
@froemelandywhy but so it's just again absolutely insane the gas lighting that these people do and it's just perpetual victimhood and it's just it's just insane and more and more people are waking up to this every single day and these spaces are absolutely essential for it and again they're absolutely like trying to shadow ban us take away our followers like me and ian were talking made a post about how
@froemelandyHis analytics show him gaining followers and he's not actually gaining any. I've noticed that the last few weeks where my analytics show me gaining followers, but I've stalled out. I'm sure that's happening to a lot of us. Like I've made some viral sports posts, so I should be gaining followers, but I'm not. And it's like, I'm not nearly as I'd say, calling out the Jews as much on the timeline as Ian is, but they're still going after me just because I associate in these spaces.
@froemelandyIt's just anyone that's even associated with this movement is getting their attention. Mr. Kaplan, Mr. Kaplan, Mr. Kaplan, Mr. Kaplan
@joann_marieNever say never, Andy. I actually believe that it's going to happen eventually. Like, I believe in this.
Ian MalcolmNever, never say never, but I will. I mean, I think it's a long shot, but we're going to do three dribbles, a head juke or whatever you call it. We'll try a full court shot.
@bobbyfischer_gmIan, I see PVG requesting, but I don't think we have any spots left, so I just wanted to...
@froemelandyThanks for everything you've done on this space. Thanks for everything you've done in this space, exposing the cult and how you've kind of like escaped. And I hope you can wake more people up that were born as Jews and everything like that's essential. I know that's obviously an uphill battle because I mean, they've been brainwashed since birth to obviously believe that they're special and God chose them.
@froemelandyBut I mean, there obviously are. Thank you so much for joining us.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo, anyway.
@joann_marieBut see, the programming is kind of like crazy. It's like saying like, oh, the Mexicans are crossing the border and me, like, but not all Mexicans. Like, dude, it's obviously not all Mexicans. Like, stop.
@bobbyfischer_gmWe have a good Mexican here. It proves the all Mexicans people.
Ian MalcolmThat's such a crap. I've never thought about that one. That's a really great point. Yeah, obviously. They're an immense amount of Mexicans crossing the border and the border needs to be tightened and all. This actually goes back to the Pilpo comment that I was making to Bobby, right? It'd be like if in a space I was saying mass migration from the southern border is a problem and JoAnn was like, but I'm here.
Ian MalcolmLook, I'm not crossing the border. It's so, oh, it's so frustrating. But really quickly, I just wanted to call out, as always, we want to thank allegedly Dank for all the things that he does. to put all these conversations on all these different programs. So on Apple podcast, rumble, Spotify, he made his own website that houses all of this information at ianmalcolm84.com.
Ian MalcolmYou can go and you can search through it. You can look for topics. You can look for specific events, right? All of it is able to be broken down. And I say it because Andy, I think, unfortunately, you're probably right. I've made the, what would you call it? I've made the call to action. And I've said, hey, I will go out and I will dox myself if we can do Tucker.
Ian MalcolmI do think if we can make that happen, it would, in a sense, and it could either be me or a whole bunch of other people that could talk about these issues, obviously. But if somebody got the chance to discuss them. On a massive platform, whether it was Tucker or anything similar, right? The thing that I wanted to call out is that this is the way that it needs to be done.
Ian MalcolmWhat we're doing in this space with Bobby, right? We're not approaching this from an emotional standpoint. This isn't about hating anybody. It's just looking at the board and saying, here's what's happening, right? Everybody is losing. The West is falling apart, right? There are all these other elements that clearly are lying to us about the status.
Ian MalcolmLet's say the state of the union. All of the past attempts that I have seen
Ian MalcolmSo let's always present ourselves as professionally, as intellectually as we possibly can, because obviously it's a very sensitive subject, right? So you can imagine it's like Chicken Little, right? Everybody's like, oh, no, Chicken Little is crazy, right? We're basically Chicken Little to an extent. We're walking in, we're being like, guys, look what's going on, right?
Ian MalcolmBut if we go in and we're like, okay. So I've examined the solar system and here is where this asteroid that's going to hit the earth is coming from. Let me show you a high res photograph of it. Let's do the estimates on where it's going to land. Let me explain to you exactly what, right? We need to take, as I joke with JoAnn, we need to take that nerdy approach, right?
Ian MalcolmLike, hey guys, here's all my facts. That's how we need to approach this. And so I want to thank allegedly Dank because in our efforts, Right. If we had gone in the past and said, Hey, I'm going to go out and take a cousin. Right. They would look and they'd say, Hey, this is the largest podcast on earth. What business do you think that you have coming and discussing anything with us?
Ian MalcolmRight. That'd be a reasonable thing to suggest, but instead we have built this community through a lot of effort and work and love from a whole bunch of people that are many of which are up on this panel right now. We've learned along the way from everybody from Sam Parker and Truth Teller and so many other wonderful individuals.
Ian MalcolmAnd I say that because all of that effort, because of the work that allegedly Dank has been doing, when we're trying to say, hey, can we come and talk about this issue? They're going to say, what business do you think we have? And we get to say, look at all our data. Look at this website. Look at all these things. And I say it because allegedly Dank was helping to kind of codify some of this into a single deliverable.
Ian MalcolmAnd between JoAnn, myself, and allegedly Dank in DMs, he was able to use Claude to kind of come up with a summarization of all the things. And you know what was crazy? We have hundreds of hours at this point. It's thousands in terms of the hours across hundreds of spaces.
Ian MalcolmWe are doing, we're putting out more content, having more conversations and prospectively in a way making a bigger difference in the zeitgeist. And when I say that, I use the term we, because this is not about me. And again, like with almost every space, Bobby's probably done 80, 75, whatever the percentage is of the lift in this conversation.
Ian MalcolmWe are a community. That's what makes this really special. It's what makes it really unique. And I think it's why we are continuing to thrive. And so whether they take us up on that or not, either way, we will continue doing all the things that we're doing. We'll continue growing our little channel. And that roster of thousands of hours worth of content will become tens of thousands of hours.
Ian MalcolmIt'll get shared with more and more people. And at some point, it won't matter if somebody gives us a leg up. And that's the craziest piece of all of it. is the thought that our tiny little our little outfit right of voices and ideas that we are challenging the trillion dollar propaganda machine that owns everything and that they are losing and they are only going to continue to lose more and more as we build up a bigger and bigger and bigger kind of audience for these ideas which again they're not my idea these are our ideas these are our spaces these are our conversations and it's for the betterment of the everyone
Ian MalcolmHey, buddy, it's good to, you know, we've been DMing all day, so it's good to finally talk to you. And Bobby.
@thenaturalord3rWe had a great talk the other day. Me and Bobby had a nice call the other day. Unfortunately, it ended too soon. Ian, if you don't mind, I...
@thenaturalord3rIf you don't mind, would it be okay if I share the first thing I DM'd you today about Tucker? I'm sorry? Would you mind if I DM'd you the thing about... Oh, yeah, always send me anything. No, no, no. If I shared with the group about... Yeah, I am an open book.
Ian MalcolmI don't know what you're referencing, but I've always just been very candid with everything. Except my social security number and my passport, which I guess Timmy G demands. But aside from that, everybody can have everything.
@thenaturalord3rSo Buckley Carlson followed me today. And I think that's a big thing. Because if Buckley is following me... And I don't have the most followers, but I seem to create quite an impact with some of my posts. So if Buckley is following me, and I am not, you know, one of the top 10 people who post on here. I have my moments, but I wouldn't say that.
@thenaturalord3rI think that the more and more and more that we are pushing, I have confidence that Ian will be on Tucker. I really, really do. And he's going to do a... Some of the best job. He's going to do a fucking fantastic job. And he's not going to be representing just himself. He's going to be representing JoAnn and Bobby and Mandy and 40 and Junior and the great Dank.
@thenaturalord3rAnd it makes me think, talking about Dank, you know, I don't know if you have... You know, because Tucker's got a whole team. I mean, this is... There's like probably... I don't know if they've gone back and they've listened to some of the spaces and listened to some of those things because if you've never been on the website, it's truly amazing.
@thenaturalord3rYou could type in your own username. So I give all the respect and the kudos to Dank because in each space you could search your username to try to find what you have said. And you could also get a perfect text-to-speech analysis. So it's one of the most impressive things that I've ever come across. And, you know, I think the tide is turning.
@thenaturalord3rAnd I've been saying this for three years. I say this whenever I'm coming to these spaces. Because this Noahide thing, and Ian and I, we spoke about this today. This shit is no joke. You know, I made a post. It's gone semi-viral. I just wanted to be funny. Well, I don't know, funny because it's scary shit, but I was like, embrace Christ, fuck Noahide.
@thenaturalord3rAnd then I have an army of Jews just in my comments. And all these people, the Natsox, everyone's reposting it. But the biggest thing is, Ian, if you don't mind, if I could explain this whole...
@thenaturalord3rThe whole thing about Noahide.
Ian MalcolmYeah, go for it.
@thenaturalord3rYeah, so what makes it so dangerous is that, and you know, I said this to Ian today, you know, I am against, I don't want Sharia law in this country. I'm against the browning of the United States. But this Noahide thing is far more insidious, far more dangerous. You know, if you study the Jews as much as I have over the years, you'll know that if a Jew travels overseas and they want to worship somewhere, they are allowed into a mosque to worship if it comes to it, if there's no temples or synagogues.
@thenaturalord3rBut they cannot go into a church. because they consider the worship of Christ idolatry. And that's the number one thing. That's the number one thing that these Chabad sons of bitches want to do. I read somewhere today that they're going to have an international, I don't know what they call it, the Earth-Jupiter conference or something about Noahide.
@1_1savedbygraceJupiter, you said? Jupiter?
@thenaturalord3rWell, I wouldn't be surprised if it was called Jupiter because, I mean...
Ian MalcolmIt's also like the first international Noahide conference. I'm sure you saw that too, PVG. Crazily.
@thenaturalord3rYeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know if it was called Jupiter or it was some planetary thing.
@transformer444You might have gotten that confused.
@thenaturalord3rNow, if it was called the Saturn conference, that would make the most sense.
@thenaturalord3rBecause that's who they worship. But, you know, the biggest thing is, and, you know, I have no doubt that what happened to our friend Charlie, you know, he's still in one of my group chats. He never left. He never removed himself. So I always have that and I look at it sometimes and say, Charlie, you'd be proud of the work that we're doing.
@thenaturalord3rYou know, you have now Ben Shapiro on there and he pill pulled. The greatest pill-pull that he could have done. And he was like, well, you know, the Noahide laws are just about, like, not hurting anybody, not eating the live flesh of an animal. Just obfuscating, or however you say that word. But he did not mention number one.
@thenaturalord3rAnd the number one Noahide law is, is that if you practice idolatry, The penalty is death. So every Christian out there is at risk of disappearing if these people get their way. Now, I'm familiar with the Jews, maybe not as much as Bobby is, but I've done my research, I've lived around them. The reformed people aren't really like that.
@thenaturalord3rIt's more just left-wing socialism. But the more orthodox, especially the Chabad people, that's where it gets dangerous. With the Noahide Law stuff, this is our greatest threat right now. People want to talk about You know, them buying everything and controlling our social media. That's all bad. But if this Noahide stuff comes to pass, you're going to see... You're going to see something, you know, I will never...
@thenaturalord3rI'll leave it at that. You're going to see a pushback like you've never seen before. The bread in the circuses can only hold out so long. We can only watch our football. and basketball for too long and Dancing with the Stars and all our other crap.
@1_1savedbygraceBut, you know... I mean, PVG, I wish they would try to kill a Christian for worshiping Christ. Like in America, you know? I wish they would fuck around and try to do that.
@bobbyfischer_gmI hate to cut you guys off, but I just want to make a request that we get around to all the hands first.
Ian MalcolmYeah, let's do that. PVG, did you have a quick question for Bobby? And if not, we're going to go down to Tom, and then I've had enough, and rotate a couple speakers here.
@thenaturalord3rYeah, no. Yeah, I just, you know, Bobby's my friend. You know, we've become friends. And I'm really, really proud of him. He's really done an excellent job. And Ian, I appreciate you giving him this time because he's a great kid. And he's a lot to say and he's really bright. And I hope you guys, you know, follow Bobby, follow Ian, JoAnn, Dank, Mandy, Andy, the rap, all the 40, Rabbi, Junior, pretty much everyone in here that I know.
@thenaturalord3rAnd even if you, I don't know you, you know, it's good to keep the community together. But Christ is King. And let's fight against these Talmudic freaks. Let's do it with peace. Let's do it with our words. And I give it back to to the gradient.
Ian MalcolmIt's to Tom. Thank you so much, PVG. All right, Tom, welcome. How are you?
@transformer444Well, doing well. Thank you. Great program, Ian, JoAnn, Bobby. Fantastic show. Extremely educational. You know, the I wasn't going to touch on Noahide, but I've been thinking about it today as well, because. We had, as the gentleman just mentioned, we had Ben Shapiro kind of laying the groundwork and easing the path for the normalization of this concept.
@transformer444And very deceptively and intelligently, he left out that detail that idolatry is considered something which is punishable by death to be executed by virtue of decapitation. Interestingly, during the Obama administration, if I'm not mistaken, Tremendous amount of guillotines were purchased probably for that specific reason.
@transformer444So yeah, that's something that should worry everyone. And not just Christians, my friends. Anyone that's critical of this power structure will be labeled as anything they need to label you as an idolater or whatever in order to justify your decapitation. It's an interesting point about Chabad being a group that has priorities that do diverge from those of the Epstein class power structure at times.
@transformer444They do. but it's interesting no matter whether you're talking about the technocrats implementing their vision for the future or let's say the noahide version or the conservative option of the vision of the jewish supremacist future either way the result is essentially the same for westerners and just people that want to live their lives in a non-dictatorial genocidal tyranny which is what that would be
@transformer444And so it's a cause for great concern. And this has been such an interesting conversation. I have a bunch of questions, but I'm going to limit it to three and I'm going to list them off really, really quickly. And if one of them is forgotten, I'll just really quickly pose it again. And they're quick, so I'll be as rapid as I can here.
@transformer444What form of Judaism, Bobby, do you think that the top members in the Epstein class belong to? And would you describe their circle as a cult as well? If so, could you characterize it? and the other two questions are you know we hear a lot of things about this sorry guys i'm reading from notes that are minuscule so it's not that easy to read them and make it sound natural anyway we hear a lot of things about this oh sorry it's another question i want to ask i've also noticed that the color orange brother seems to hold a really important cultural significance to people in the jewish community so i wanted to know what that was about if you have any idea and the last one kind of an entertaining one i suppose i've noticed over the years that many jews seem to identify with
@transformer444or enjoy a tremendous deal what I look to as a kind of obscure action figure or superhero, the Silver Surfer. If you know what that's about, I'd be very interested as well. Thanks brother, great program.
@bobbyfischer_gmThank you so much, Tom. And yeah, guys, please follow Tom. He does great work and very clear thinking and knowledgeable. And I have to say your second two questions, I actually have no idea what you're talking about. You're clearly researching things that I have not gotten to yet. So we'll have to talk about that in another conversation.
@bobbyfischer_gmLooking forward to it very much. The first question about what religion these people believe, you know, to me, it's kind of a simplified thing. It's good and evil are universal. Each of them is universal in my opinion. So as far as the evil, like the Epstein class and folks like that, I mean, they're Luciferians. They believe that the worldly benefits that they get
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd actually, you know, I can answer this with a quote from Bobby Fischer. He quoted the New Testament. He says, like, in the book of Matthew and other places, Lucifer takes Jesus up to this high mountains that I'll give you all the kingdoms of the world if you just bow down and serve me. And Bobby Fischer said that that is essentially what Jews are doing.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd that is, yes, a simplified way of explaining it. But the whole point is. Well, you look at all these facts that Ian has compiled together, all these industries, all this power and money. What is that, if not the kingdoms of the world? And what are they doing with that? What are they getting in exchange from that? Well, the power, the money, in a lot of cases, like sexuality or sexual fantasies or whatever.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd that's what these extremely evil people, that's the benefit that they get. And they think it's worth it to have those worldly benefits. And they chose that instead of their own soul. So that's their religion. and they wear all these different types of masks and have different names. And this group of people that we're talking about is in some sense the ultimate mask that they wear, I would argue, but there's others.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I mean, other aspects of organized religion have been infiltrated with this too. And yeah, so that's probably where I would start with the answer to that, but there's a lot much longer answer, but I want to speed run it.
@transformer444Yeah, absolutely. Great answer. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. Very well stated. Let's go to Love Above and then we'll go to Belteshazzar.
@loveabovea48592Hi there. Thank you again, Ian, for hosting and for everybody. It's been wonderful. I did want to say about the Noahide laws, the conference is in Jerusalem and I think it's November 2nd to the 6th or something like that. That was the one that you were talking about. I live with like, there's probably seven Shabad temples within like five miles of my house.
@loveabovea48592But on that note, I did want to say that I love this idea of like digging deeper and understanding what the kind of where it's all coming from. And I did want to share something. that is more about kind of understanding the intersection between cognitive abilities, personality, culture, consciousness, and politics. And I know that sounds like a big mouthful, but I essentially think that's why we're here.
@loveabovea48592And essentially cognition is really how we process the information. And when I used to do brain training, The first step would be that we would actually do like a four to six hour test where we didn't meet or discuss anything with the children. An administrator would do the testing. And then we started to notice, wow, there's a direct correlation between how they process information cognitively and then how it intersects with and shows up in their personality.
@loveabovea48592So to give you an example, If somebody has a linear thinking, like neurorigidity, black and white, they would be better at math, okay? That they would be, from a personality standpoint, they would be more type A. They would be more detail-oriented, more inflexible, more transactional, kind of see where I'm going here. And because you had mentioned something about genetics.
@loveabovea48592But then when you insert the cultural components and somebody's also telling you that you're superior, well, then superior leads into feeling pretty much entitled because you're better. And then there's an element of self-focus. And then there's an element of not necessarily trusting because there's this separateness that exists in your cognition.
@loveabovea48592How would I expect people who are caged for 80 years and subjugated to all this injustice after their homes and lives have been stolen? I'm focusing on my own personal history as an American Palestinian, but when you insert then on top of that the politics, were there ancestral traumas weaponized against them with the indoctrination that's
@loveabovea48592taking advantage of the neuro rigidity and the black and white thinking and then you know they're manipulated through self-identity like this birthright trip it's like where their entire self-concept is interwoven with this apartheid state and the victimhood mentality is reinforced right uh it it's it it Not that I'm making any excuses because I'm certainly not, but I believe that if we're going to overcome this, it's going to start with understanding essentially what we're even dealing with.
@loveabovea48592And I think the element of the personality disordered circumstances is really what we are dealing with. But on a plus side, there's so much They essentially end up following a behavioral script, right? So there's not so many differences. It's almost as though, not robotic, but there isn't much room to navigate, right, in between that.
@loveabovea48592And so it's almost like, I am this, and if I'm not this, I am nothing. Well, what am I? Do you see what I'm saying? So it becomes this like... Thank you so much for joining us.
@loveabovea48592Really where it's coming from. And again, understanding doesn't mean justifying by any means. But I do wonder if approaching it because defensive is another component of it, extremely defensive, but that ties in with the neural rigidity. And so it's like you can't even develop the ability to have empathy or compassion because you're too busy defending yourself since you're always the victim.
@loveabovea48592and you're untrusting and everyone's always against you and they're not even equal to you anyway. So screw them all. You see what I'm saying? So I wonder if the only way through it, which is technically contrary to psychology doctrine that says if somebody actually has a genuine personality disorder and isn't caught in this perfect storm of cognitive personality, culture and politics, that
@loveabovea48592that this type of discussion and using love above all in order to kind of help who we can help and reach who we can reach and neutralize the very toxic components of this entity, if you will, perhaps that's something that we can lean more into or discuss more about or at least understand what Thank you so much for joining us.
@loveabovea48592Raed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven
@bobbyfischer_gmThere's so much programming and there's layers to this whole thing. I'll just make one point about the whole thing, but I really want to discuss all these things further with you because we're looking at the same problem that we're trying to deconstruct or reverse engineer, like this whole thing. I've seen this happen so many times.
@bobbyfischer_gmThe key to it is tricking potentially well-meaning people that are just ignorant into attaching their identity to a belief system that these higher powers want to use for their control system. That is what it is. And a bunch of other things you mentioned, like there's linguistic and even mathematical ways of analyzing that.
@bobbyfischer_gmLike the existence of positive feedback loops is a huge thing or self-fulfilling prophecies is another way to say it. Like the existence of a situation where Thank you so much for joining us.
@loveabovea48592Thank you so much for joining us.
@loveabovea48592has programmed us in all this brilliance so that we are essentially like from literally like a computer able to decipher billions of bits of information to now see all the Volkswagens that we were never quite seeing before because it's been put into our consciousness and our reticular activating system is seeing that. I believe that what's been programmed by these political psychopaths who are
@loveabovea48592who are weaponizing their ancestral trauma and have been indoctrinating them for so long. Their reticular activating system is seeing antisemitism everywhere. They're seeing all of these things that they've been essentially programmed through their reticular activating system in order to be manipulated as political shields and weapons.
@loveabovea48592I think that's really what we are. I think it's so much more diabolical than we might realize, but in understanding it, I'm hoping that it can crack a few, you know, whatever crack is needed to kind of open people up so that they can kind of ascend the way you have, Bobby, and several of the other speakers, where you can see past yourself.
@loveabovea48592and understand the bigger role. So yeah, thank you. Thank you so much.
@bobbyfischer_gmThank you so much. I appreciate that so much. And like I said, I think if we did a space together, we could absolutely cook on this because you just like reminded me of so many points I wanted to make that I didn't even get a chance to. I'll just say one, this is one of them. This is probably the most important one. Part of my message is I don't, I think, I think,
@bobbyfischer_gmEmbracing uncritically the Jewish identity or rejecting it entirely are both mistakes. I think it's ultimately about transcending it or evolving beyond it. And I think all the greatest quote-unquote Jews throughout history did that. Anyway, Ian, Daryl and Beltesh have been waiting forever.
Ian MalcolmLet's go through and I'll set up a... I'll set up a group chat with JoAnn and love, I would love, love, I would love if we could set up a conversation of future space with Bobby. Maybe we could also get Rabbi [guest], maybe Amiru in there and a couple others that are really interested in some of the psychological aspects of it.
Ian MalcolmI could also invite Hitch Slap if he wants to join, but I know he kind of stays away from these subjects. I've tried a couple of times with him because I find some of his thoughts on genetics very interesting, but we'll get that for a future space. It could be very interesting to break down the genetic aspect of what we're talking about and the heritability of it, because obviously it really is, it's part of the challenge, right?
Ian MalcolmIf there is something that's a predisposition for paranoia and some of these other Andy froemel, Mav, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, Rabbi [guest]-Levy,
@ceanndachJust a comment real quick, Ian. When you were asking about Pilpo earlier, my understanding from what I've looked at is I think that came from the first temple destruction because that created the scenario where the priests didn't have power. So I think that's where that started and why it perpetuated.
@ceanndachBut what I was going to say, though, is as it pertains to, you know, the whole supremacy thing, the thing that sort of got me started on it was, you know, the whole narrative about, you know, look at how smart and amazing German engineering is. But then one day these people collectively went insane. And I was like, well, that didn't make any sense.
@ceanndachLike, why would all these, you know, smart people one day decide, hmm, we're just going to kind of lose our shit collectively. So... That was kind of what got me started looking at it. And then you look at some of the sort of more quote unquote famous anti-Semites, right? Like Martin Luther, Richard Wagner, Dostoevsky, Edison, Henry Ford.
@ceanndachAnd you're like, well, these guys aren't stupid. And if you look at their lives, you look and see that they were wildly successful. They were very accomplished. They were actually very historically relevant. And then it's like, but they all just had this one thing where they were like, hmm, you know, we've kind of noticed some things about this particular group of people that we don't like.
@ceanndachAnd because of that, you know, they were all raked over the coals for it. So, you know, where I sort of started all this was, you know, I looked at that and I was like, you know what, I'm going to choose if I have to pick, because I think anybody would make the same decision, is if you have to listen to strangers or...
@ceanndachor your own ancestral people, you're like, well, I'm gonna listen to what my ancestors had to say. Cause it's like, why wouldn't you? Cause they're the ones who were there before you. They were the ones who were laying the groundwork for you to be there. They were the ones looking out for you. And you shouldn't trust the stranger to be the people who are looking out for you.
@ceanndachAnd the thing that I've noticed is that there's sort of this dedication, if you think about it, They're the only group of people in the world that essentially refuses to assimilate no matter where they go. They always form their own enclaves. As the lady was mentioning right before me, I don't remember her name, they have this ego.
@ceanndachYou're a special group of people. If you simply look at the fact that they form enclaves and they've always formed enclaves and the practice of... Thank you for joining us.
@ceanndachIn general, there's not like a grand conspiracy. I think there's sort of a modeled culture that just sort of persists. And what we have is we have a group of elites who sort of, I think they use those people as a shield in order to do the things that they want to do. And one thing I think that we sort of forget that we don't realize is that being a diaspora is a very unique experience.
@ceanndachSo, you know, if you have someone from a particular country who does something that's really bad to another particular country, what do they do? They go to war with each other because it's like it's them over there, right? There they are, plain as day. But if you have a group of people who's doing things to you and they don't have a country, you can't really say, oh, well, it's them over there, right?
@ceanndachBecause they're everywhere. They're just kind of spread out. So I think that led them to have a sort of a unique outlook on life. And I think it's hard for a lot of us to sort of relate to that perspective that they have. But I think that's part of why it's been so effective is because it's sort of outside of the scope of what everyone else is normally used to working with.
@ceanndachAnd a quote that I have here from Jefferson, Thomas Jefferson, he said, ethics were so little studied among them that in their whole compilation called the Talmud, There is only one treatise on moral subjects.
@ceanndachNow what you see is when you go and you talk to most of them, the ones that have sort of grown up indoctrinated in that system, you see this like finger in my ears mentality, you know, la, la, la, I'm not going to listen to you because they've sort of have this culture of like the other is the enemy, right? The other is against you.
@ceanndachSo I think I may have said this the other day, but it's like for most of them, I imagine by the time that you meet one as an adult, they already have an entire worldview of you before they even met you. and you're just meeting them for the first time and as a westerner you're like oh hey you know bob or whatever right like you don't have this preconceived notion um and and i would point out that i think there's a real uh sort of a symbiosis they have with what goes on in the black community right but except for them when they have an issue with you they confront you immediately physically right but with with with them though
@ceanndachWhat they do is if you offend them, they will slander you, right? They'll call your boss. They'll go after your finances, right? They don't directly confront you. It's all stuff that's behind the scenes. And I think that we're sort of from a history of like, well, you know, if that guy has a problem with me, well, I'm gonna hit him with my sword.
@ceanndachAnd having democracies has really moved us away from that. So I think that's another problem that we have is sort of like, We can't problem solve it the way that we normally would problem solve. I think that's another component that's relevant. But the thing I wanted to ask Bobby, though, was, and it sort of wraps this all up, is, you know, have you seen sort of like any indoctrination or like, you know, just sort of like messaging that it took you to grow up with that you sort of just, you know, you see later that you're like, well, that didn't make any sense.
@ceanndachLike, why was that impressed on me? You know, like any sort of just... Preconceived notions that unless you actually stop to think about them, it would never occur to you to think otherwise.
@bobbyfischer_gmAbsolutely. And thank you for the question. I agree with a lot of the stuff you said. You made a lot of good points. There's a ton of things that you're sort of indoctrinated to believe that you don't even realize it's indoctrination. You don't even realize that the only reason you think that is because of this insulated belief system.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's resistant to any external correction or critique or whatever. The main thing my mind went to when you were asking that is the idea of a two-tiered world where there's Jews and there's non-Jews. This whole separation that, of course, the New Testament actually dissolves in a spiritual sense and says that it doesn't exist anymore.
@bobbyfischer_gmThey maintain that distinction. They say there's one rule for the Jew, one rule for the non-Jew. And that's what the entire like Babylonian Talmud is just full of that. And so, you know, there's there's some sillier examples. Like I know people that told me they were much more insulated than me. Right. Because I told you I was part of one of these communities that's much less insulated in that way.
@bobbyfischer_gmRight. Had a lot more exposure to the culture. That's one thing about the reform and the conservative is they're much more close. They're a lot closer to being assimilated. They're not fully assimilated, but they're a lot friendlier to non-Jews than the ultra-Orthodox folks, certainly.
@bobbyfischer_gmThe folks that are really in those ultra-Orthodox cults that are super insulated, they pretty much have no exposure to non-Jews at all. They're like, oh, I've never met a non-Jew, or I've never seen a non-Jew, or when they see non-Jews on the street, they would never think in a million years of talking to them. of looking at them, of acknowledging them, stuff like that.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's the kind of culture that we're dealing with in those cases. When it comes to the less religious folks, the Reform and others, they do talk to non-Jews to a much greater degree, and they're much more assimilated. It's a lot more like in urban centers or whatever. It's just a lot more cultural and a little bit more friendly.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut I mean, just the belief that like,
@bobbyfischer_gmEven these beliefs from the Talmud, you don't even have to learn it from the Talmud. It's like ingrained into the culture at such a deep level that you start to believe that without even realizing why you believe that. And I don't even fully know why myself.
@ceanndachIsn't the soul thing from the Kabbalah?
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, the Zohar talks about that a lot. Absolutely.
@joann_marieAll right, amazing and nice. Please repost this space. And if you guys go into it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and Bobby, Mandy, everybody here. And thank you so much, everybody. Mandy, I know we couldn't see your hand before, but go for it. Thank you.
@rabbimandyxI'll keep it really quick. I'm going to say a couple things, just some scripture. And then I have a question that I hope I can keep it in my head that long. Okay, so I just first, because I also came to God and was not, you know, a Christian. And I don't know if it was around the time that Bobby did, but we seem to jive on a lot of things.
@rabbimandyxAnd I know that he was saying that it was the New Testament that changed his life. And when I was first coming to God, I was trying to understand who God was. And I still had not read much scripture at all. Three different things came to me, and I thought that they would add to this conversation because they really summarize how I came to Jesus Christ.
@rabbimandyxThey're just three different scriptures, and they're pretty concise. So John 1.1, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1.14, And the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us. That's Jesus. And then Jesus, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by me.
@rabbimandyxSo no man comes to the Father except by the Word of God, which was made flesh in Jesus Christ. And then another part of the Bible, it says, Hebrews 11, 6, Without faith, it is impossible to please God. So where do we get faith from, is the question. Romans 10, 17, So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the Word of God.
@rabbimandyxAnd it was kind of like in this moment that these three scriptures came to me, I felt exactly like... The conspiracy theorist meme was just pointing to all the things on the wall and it just finally makes sense, but it doesn't really make sense to anybody else. And I was like, wow, like the puzzle pieces just went into place and everything came together.
@rabbimandyxAnd I was like, it's Jesus. That's who it is. Because I still wasn't totally aware. I was going into it totally open-minded. I didn't know who God really was. And those three things came to me without me having spent almost any time in the Bible. And so anyway, that made so much sense to me why reading the New Testament would bring you to Christ and to God because, again, faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
@rabbimandyxWell, who is the word of God? The word was made flesh and dwelt among them. That's Jesus Christ. I am the way, the truth, and the life, and no one cometh to the Father except through me. So I wanted to tie that together just because I know that those three things were given to me for a reason and I thought I'd share it.
@rabbimandyxAlso, I think that if Bobby hasn't already thought of it, then... And that might add a little bit to his journey. But my question for Bobby, who I adore, by the way, and who's been wonderful to me without me knowing him super well. So I'm a super big fan. But I always mention him whenever anybody says it's all the Jews.
@rabbimandyxI'm like, well, there's Bobby Fischer. So he's on a short list of people that keep me from going too far overboard. But...
@rabbimandyxSo my question is, and I hope you didn't already answer it. If you did, I apologize. But how did the people in your life and in your community react to your coming to Price? And was anybody else moved to go in the same direction or at least explore that?
@bobbyfischer_gmThank you so much, Mandy, for all your support and everything. And thank you for the question. Wow. Very humbling to have you asking me that question and also just being so supportive and kind. And I was actually going to go on another additional rant about that, about how nice everyone's been to me, even though I don't really feel like I've done enough.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut I've had definitely a mixed reaction to this whole concept and self-admittedly a lot of internal confusion about aspects of it that I The life-changing experience that I was describing really revolves around these principles that are being articulated. Because the way that Jesus is always presented within the sort of Jewish hive mind, and I'm totally fine with calling it that, like people can get offended, grow up, we're allowed to say words, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmThey look at belief,
@bobbyfischer_gmIn a very denigrating, very insulting and condescending sort of way. So the way it was presented to me, and this is not uncommon at all, is that people just believe that, oh, if you believe in Jesus, then you're just totally off the hook from all your sins and stuff like that. Just like very low IQ interpretations of it.
@bobbyfischer_gmReally just a total straw man of what a lot of actual intelligent Christians believe, I would argue. And they view Christianity as idol worship because they're obsessed with the concept that believing that Jesus is the son of God is an idol worshiping concept, believing that Jesus is God is an idol worshiping concept, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd that's... essentially what they focus on to the exclusion of all else. But this is where I have a huge beef with the rabbis that just focus on that entirely because the actual parables and principles that Jesus talks about, like the actual content of what he's saying, his moral frameworks, and how that differs, how it opposes and is antithetical to the Pharisees, well, they don't want to talk about that.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd it's, you know... It's a huge mystery why they don't want to talk about that, because it calls out every aspect of their belief system and behavior for the falsity that it is. And he said, your kingdom will be taken away from you and given to a nation that bears the fruits, like a nation that actually follows God with their heart and soul and doesn't just...
@bobbyfischer_gmuse the entire concept of godliness for worldly power, which is what the Pharisees were doing and are still doing. And so those principles are like real, it's a real qualitative critique. It's not just them saying, oh, we're going to worship a different deity than we previously were. It's a qualitative critique. And so, you know, I've listened to a million different of these, like,
@bobbyfischer_gmMuslim, Christian, Trinity debates about the Godhead and all this sort of stuff. And I genuinely still haven't come to a solid conclusion about whether I'm supposed to be a Trinitarian, a Unitarian, any of that stuff. And I really just think that the Jews have made that the focus of the whole thing and confused everyone when God didn't intend to confuse us.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo actually one of my best friends on this app that I want to shout out is, her name's Lisa. Her account says like Lisa slash Jesus is coming soon. I don't know if you guys know her, but she's done excellent work on like older original Bibles, Proto Hebrew, like really, really, really deep research on like how the modern translations of the Bible and even the English language itself.
@bobbyfischer_gmReally dumbs down the actual meaning that's trying to be conveyed, right? Because the original Greek Bible has so many layers of just better wisdom than we can even comprehend with a King James Bible. And I still think the King James Bible is amazing. That was the first Bible that I actually read. But anyway, so I guess I'll just leave it at that.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's how I would start to answer that. Honestly, I have no idea if that even answers your question, Mandy. I lost track.
@rabbimandyxYeah, I wanted to mention just one more thing. Something I think is really important, and you don't have to answer if you don't want to, but I do think it's important. One of the first things that jumped out to me, I guess, in the Bible was when Jesus was leaving. And his disciples said, well, what are we going to do now?
@rabbimandyxWho's going to be here with us? And he said, don't worry, I'll send for you the spirit that will dwell in you. And that's what happens. You know, every Christian that is born again become has this spirit and the spirit in the version that I was reading is called the spirit of truth. And it really illuminates why there's such a.
@rabbimandyxin the purpose behind the war against truth right now and censorship and everything, which I believe is a spiritual war. And it is against the Holy Spirit living in each one of us. And I was wondering, have you, because this happened to me and it was like a instantaneous, like right in the same instant, it transformed me.
@rabbimandyxBut have you felt like, because another part of the Bible says that You have a heart of stone, but you will be given a heart of flesh. And this is part of that transformation of being saved. Did you have that moment where it was just instantaneous? Because I'll give you a backstory very shortly. There was a podcast that I was editing because I have a production company.
@rabbimandyxAnd this person, I don't know if you've ever seen him, but if you haven't, he's really cool. His name is Dwayne Noel Dry Creek Wrangler. And he was having a podcast with a guy named Bradley. And Dwayne was saying how we're saved. And so, you know, when we will meet God, God will not see us. He'll see his son. And Brad said, well, why do we have to be good then?
@rabbimandyxAnd Dwayne said, it's not that you have to be good. It's that you want to because you're given a new spirit and a new heart. You're a new creation. And so it's not just that, oh, I have to be good because otherwise. So that's a huge difference between Christianity and Judaism is that, no, I want to do good because I have become a new creation and now I'm in Christ.
@rabbimandyxSo have you had that experience yourself?
@bobbyfischer_gmAbsolutely. And that fundamental mindset shift, what I would describe it as is a shift from... It's like a shift from...
@bobbyfischer_gmBeing obsessed with what you're going to receive from God to what is your responsibility to do with God. That's not a good way of describing it. It's more like shifting your mindset from what deal you're trying to make with God to just genuinely doing the right thing because it's the right thing and for no other reason.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's probably the best way I would even... I mean, like, that's what like the Sermon on the Mount is, is he's describing like, here is what, here's the mindset, here are the frequencies and, you know, emotions and mentalities that a pure person will have. He says like, blessed are those who mourn, they will be comforted.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo it's like, and like, blessed are the pure of heart, they will see God. So, you know, It's saying somebody who genuinely wants to do the right thing has the positive intention and does the right thing for that reason and another reason alone. That's the person who's doing what God wants, not somebody who crafts some sort of like eight-dimensional scheme to trick God.
@bobbyfischer_gmThat's wrong. That's complete nonsense, right?
@rabbimandyxAnd that's where the whitewashed tombs come from. When Jesus was saying you are like whitewashed tombs where outside you look perfect and beautiful, but inside you're basically rotten. He's saying you're doing all these things to the T, but what's inside you is rotten. You have no spirit of goodness.
@bobbyfischer_gmYep. And he says so many other parables that kind of express this in different ways. Like one of them, and I hope I don't butcher this, but you can help me, Mandy. But like there's it's like a father sends two sons to, I think, like go work in the vineyard or something. And one of them says, no, I'm not going to do that.
@bobbyfischer_gmBut then actually decides to do it. And the other one says, oh, yes, I will do that. And then doesn't do it. And he doesn't say it explicitly, but the Pharisees know that he's calling them the second son. Because their whole thing is saying outwardly, I'm doing God's law, I'm God's people, etc. Like saying that you're doing that, but not actually doing it.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd so it's actually people that do stuff. and don't ask for anything in return and don't ask for praise and they don't do it to be seen by others and that's also why I mean look I mean there's always an inherent risk of ever doing anything righteous in public because you will because it instantly corrupts the whole idea of what you're doing because other people will praise you and then and the whole idea is if other people praise you it's like once you go in front of God and you potentially want his praise he's going to say oh no you're not going to get my praise just go
@bobbyfischer_gmGo get your praise from the people that you did it for. And I use this analogy all the time, but there's always a group of people lying and being lied to. There's two groups. And so the book of John says some of the Pharisees actually believed that he was the Messiah, but then they said that he wasn't because they wanted the glory of other men, not the glory of God.
@bobbyfischer_gmSo they were actually intentionally lying. Even though they knew the truth, which is infinitely more diabolical than being lied to. It's usually young people that get lied to by older people that know better or should know better. And that's the situation we have now too in these communities and globally, not just in the Jewish side of things.
@bobbyfischer_gmThere's people that get lied to about everything all the time. And that's the beauty of it. It's like God knows who knows what. He knows who's being lied to, who's doing the lying. etc. And people will be judged accordingly. So anyway, I'll just land it with that, I guess.
@joann_marieThat was wonderful, Bobby. Thank you so much. Thank you so much for coming up, Mandy. All right. Darrell, welcome. Go for it.
@joann_marieDarrell, go ahead.
@darelllemailvcNo, no, no. I'm here. I'm here. Sorry. It took me a second to come off. Unmute. I just want to say this is a great space. Thank you for your information, Bobby. Mr. Kaplan, Mr. Kaplan, Mr. Kaplan, Mr. Kaplan
@darelllemailvcBut yeah, the cultural programming is super interesting because you can kind of tie that into genetics, if you will, because when you look at the cultural programming, like let's say, where's my notes? Like social media, mainstream media. Raed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven, PVG
@darelllemailvcThank you so much for joining us.
@darelllemailvcChristian, Muslim, Zionist
@darelllemailvcreplacement theory and everything like that. What are they exactly trying to do? And then, you know, the bane of the existence when you look into it is America, like predominantly controlled by, I will say, Christian, Zionist and Jewish supremacy. Our politicians are. And they go through and you look at Wesley Clark's plan.
@darelllemailvcWhat was it? Seven nations in five years, if I'm not mistaken. and then you look at what they do they try to go in and overthrow these governments and that creates a displacement so like no one in their right mind will want to live in a war ravaged area and so of course what do they want to do they want to get out they want to go to a better place so that in turn creates the replacement theory so you see and when you look at who controls everything in our government systems and what America has done
@darelllemailvcThank you so much, Daryl. Bobby, do you have anything to add or should I go to the next end?
@bobbyfischer_gmNo, I just appreciate the commentary. You can go to the next hand. And I hate to say this, but I'm kind of trying to get out of here sooner rather than later. So if we could.
Ian MalcolmWe'll try to go through quickly. We've got I've had enough hummingbird and then we'll go to HT for a final question.
@joann_marieAnd Aaron, if you use the soundboard one more time, I'm going to block you. All right. Go for it.
@ivehadenoughsweWas it me?
@joann_marieYes.
Ian MalcolmYes. And JoAnn's such a boss, I love it.
@joann_marieI hate this soundbar so much.
@ivehadenoughsweI just kind of, like, I'm just struck with how fascinating it is to just sit and listen to all of this. And I make all this, you know, I get all these insights and make reflections. Like, this is, like... Only people that's so sparked by enthusiasm for the greater good and like morality. And basically every single thing I hear someone bring up, my head starts spinning and I come up with so many things that are just so despicable and how this has been such a long time plan that
@ivehadenoughsweI've considered starting to make notes of interesting things to touch on. But then I realized I could go on and on and on forever. But I also feel like I have basically so much knowledge right now that I honestly don't think we have any politicians in Sweden. who wouldn't survive a one-to-one with me. But still, I'm shadow banned on X. I engage in grassroots activism on LinkedIn out when I meet people eye-to-eye.
@ivehadenoughsweBut I have so much enthusiasm myself as well for this because I realized as well that there's so many people from across the world that probably like most countries represented. I've noticed that it turns up people from really strange places. And I personally have had this, I've just assumed for some reason, at least initially that everyone is from the US.
@ivehadenoughsweBut then, after having listened to like three, I realized that, okay, I've just, for some, like Ian, I assume that you're from the US, but now I gather that you're more like from somewhere in Europe. But I posted some things in the comments section. I first posted one on children indoctrination, which has been a topic that people have been touching on earlier.
@ivehadenoughsweand like there are three of them four but like and they show how this real psyops on the kids has been going on continuously since the 80s and it's still to this day the very same with like the devil it's himself Smotrich going to schools and like manipulating kids And I posted one of my older posts, I think, with four of these videos that I really recommend people to take a look at.
@ivehadenoughsweAnd then I forced Gemini and JetGPT that put this in the chat as well, or the comment section. I asked them to give me a definition of the word settlers from legal and like moral law perspective and they both came up with occupiers and then I posted as well like the current working definition of antisemitism that's actually applied in Europe and like I've cut and pasted my favorite examples that they themselves
@ivehadenoughswesay constitute antisemitism and this is for f s sake criminalized in my country and like the thing that's kind of lobbied the most under like hate crimes and then I put up like a Swedish bible from the 1800s where like the geography and everything is correct over Israel and Gaza and our neighboring countries But it doesn't say Israel or anything anywhere.
@ivehadenoughsweIt says Palestine. And I just sent this to you, Ian, personally, like a couple of days ago as well. Because I found it, even though we're not very religious in Sweden, I found it shocking to see how obviously it has been just... censored and altered heavily. But I don't know. How are you, Ian? And I don't know if you have looked at those things in the comments.
@ivehadenoughsweIs there something there that you find interesting?
Ian MalcolmLet me pull that up right now. You're saying that you sent it specifically?
@ivehadenoughsweLike on this, you know... If you press the comments section in the interface when you're on the space on the phone, like the comments on... Yep, pulling it up right now and you're saying the occupiers, is that right? The occupiers... With Gemini? Yeah, that's one of the posts, exactly. I put, let's see, I think I put a couple of them.
@ivehadenoughsweYeah, it's one with four videos. showing like how like how badly brainwashed the kids are getting when they're really small and then under one that's like the definition of anti-semitism that's applied across like you know the really fancy colleges in the uk you know king's college all of those and practically like every university in the uk as well as my own country and it says stuff
@ivehadenoughsweMentioning that there might be a world Jewish order or Jewish youths having control over media, economy, government, etc. Deny the fact scope mechanisms, ex gratia gas chambers, or the scope of the genocide. I'll check that out. That's what I mean. I could go on.
Ian MalcolmNo, I appreciate that. I've had nothing. And we'll have to, JoAnn, we should get a conversation going so that we could get a perspective for what is going on with regards to this topic. In his homeland, I think it'd be interesting. We've jumped around the world, right? We've done a whole bunch of different countries and continents.
Ian MalcolmSo it'd be nice to get that as well. But let's go to HT for a question for Bobby.
@handsometruth__Okay, just real quick, Bobby. I'm not going to bore you like everyone else. I just want to ask you a simple question. Don't take offense to it. I'm a racialist, and I was a Christian at one point. I'm wondering, are you pro-white?
@bobbyfischer_gmUm, well, I actually am part white European myself. I mean, I'm part Ashkenazi and part English and part Scottish. So, you know, I don't know. I don't know. I guess I don't know exactly what you mean by pro-white. I mean, I'm pro-humanity, man.
@handsometruth__That's what most Christians, real Christians answer. So that's good. So I'm trying, my mission is to get every white nationalist who sees what time it is with the white race going extinct to really start looking at some of the forefathers of white nationalism, like Metzger, Dr. William Pierce, George Lincoln Rockwell, David Lane.
@handsometruth__There's many more. Simpson. But these guys were all diehard Christians at one point. And they pretty much came to the conclusion that the Jewish people are the biggest threat towards the European race. And what they found out is that Christianity was a sect of Judaism and it has been weaponized to domesticate white people and allow them to not see racial boundaries and I believe that if Jews are our racial enemies and they are the biggest storytellers of all time and the Bible is the most printed book in the world and we're questioning Jewish supremacy right now we are told
@handsometruth__Our God is a rejected Jewish Messiah, and that this God wants us to pray for our enemies, forgive our enemies, tells us the meek shall inherit the earth, which is like goes against the laws of nature, give all your money to the poor, and that vengeance is for the Lord. So we've literally been domesticated by a Jewish rabbi named Rabbi 16 times in the New Testament.
@handsometruth__to be a pacified, weak, watered-down, cocked white race.
Ian MalcolmHey, HT, HT, why do you think Cray said sell your cloak and buy a sword and a shield? What do you think he's referencing?
@handsometruth__Well, what do you think?
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, no, no, no. Answer my question. What do you think he'd be referencing?
Ian MalcolmDon't play pilpul like a Jew. Just address the question. What is a sword and a shield used for, HT? Let me ask you that.
@handsometruth__It would be for battle, but... Okay, it'd be for battle. Yeah, that sounds about right. My response, real quick. Okay, so when Jesus was getting apprehended by the Roman soldiers, and one of his men sliced the Roman's ear, what did Jesus say when that guy used his sword to slice... Why do you think he said that, H.T.? Well, he said, get behind me, Satan, and he healed his ear.
@handsometruth__So he might say, buy a sword, but he forgave the guy that took him away to kill him. Why do you think he did that? because he's a pacifist.
Ian MalcolmNo, he's not a pacifist. What had to happen for him to... He died for your sins. Okay, so that was part of his plan, right?
@handsometruth__Well, that was part of Yahweh's plan, which is that he's God. Hang on, hang on.
Ian MalcolmThat was part of Christ's destined plan, as he viewed it, correct?
@handsometruth__From Yahweh, correct?
Ian MalcolmWe can go on to Yahweh. We can talk about how that might be demonic. Is that his father? We can go into Yahweh. H.T., hang on. Is his father Yahweh? I don't know why you keep trying to run over me. It's really not very coos. um so the entire idea of a sword and a shield like you said is to do battle it's to do battle with what a sword and a shield but his actions didn't speak like his words no his actions didn't speak like his words because what you're suggesting was part of his destined plan that was the whole garden of Gethsemane right yeah yes okay so we can agree on that okay so that wasn't him being a coward that was him saying i've got to go through with this plan right well he didn't have to heal the guy's ear
Ian MalcolmI mean, I guess he didn't have to, but he was viewing that as part of his destiny and that was part of the scripture. Whatever you want to view it as, we can agree that he didn't go to war. I think it'd be safe to say he could have if he wanted to, but that was what he was sent to do, at least in his mind, right?
@handsometruth__Yeah, but the point is that his father is the Jewish God that you guys complain about.
Ian MalcolmWe can actually go to an entire talk track of how that's a totally different thing. We did a space on that last week, if I'm not mistaken.
@handsometruth__What does Yeshua mean in Hebrew?
Ian MalcolmI'm well aware, and we can go into Yahweh, and we can go into the idea that was discussed as part of the space that we did on is essentially the God of the Old Testament, a different God than the one of Jesus Christ. There's a whole talk track that you can go down if you want to do that, and it's actually... One of the oldest canons of Christianity is that very concept, right?
@bobbyfischer_gmCan we land this with like a question or something?
Ian MalcolmIt's very strange because what he's going to try to do is just say he's a white nationalist while he gets together with anybody that's not white that hates on Christianity.
@handsometruth__That's his new shit. My question is, who's your favorite contemporary that documented Jesus while he was alive? That documented Jesus? Yeah, a contemporary. Name one.
@bobbyfischer_gmI don't know. I don't know.
@handsometruth__There isn't one. Okay. So with the son of God who turned bread into fish and all these stories of the dead rising from the ground, there wasn't one Roman or Jew that documented while Jesus existed. Isn't that weird?
@bobbyfischer_gmI don't know if I believe that. I mean, I'm open about the fact that I'm a beginner with this stuff, but I mean, what's the point here? Like, you're just saying he didn't exist?
@handsometruth__The fairy tale. There's no contemporaries.
Ian MalcolmYeah, so, HT, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question. So, in your suggestion, so you believe that this is all part of a fairy tale by the Jews to kind of essentially enslave all the goy, right?
@handsometruth__Yeah, yes, and Islam as well.
Ian MalcolmOkay, so let me ask you a question that Adam Green, who I know is your buddy, who I find subversive and he blocked me because he's... I guess, I don't know, either a coward or he's afraid of the fact that I can race you in. But either way, so Adam Green, he couldn't answer this question, so I'm going to ask it to you. So if the suggestion is that Jesus Christ is just a LARP of the Jews to enslave everybody, then why is it in their Talmud, which is strictly prohibited for all the non-Jews to read, why do they lie all of to their fellow Jews about Jesus Christ being in boiling excrement?
Ian MalcolmWhy wouldn't they just say, we tricked all the dumb Christians? It was a different Christos. You think that's a different person? You're going to play like Brock and suggest that that's it? Adam Green disagrees with your take on that, by the way.
@handsometruth__Okay, well, it's 100 years before Christ.
@bobbyfischer_gmI actually have a good answer to this. The principles that I just talked about and how they contradict the Pharisees, those principles are actually independent of the person of Jesus. So, like, I'm in it for the universal values and morals, and I don't... I'm aware of this perspective, and I'm aware that there's, I guess, well-meaning people that have this perspective, that all of Abrahamism...
@bobbyfischer_gmI know, I know, but there's other people that have talked to you, Ian, that are well-meaning with this broad-reaching, Abrahamism's all a Jewish deception. I'm aware of this whole thing, and I also think that I just spent so long criticizing Judaism for being tribal, that if there's this whole concept where if you're just going to say...
@handsometruth__Wait, wait, I agree with you, I agree with you, I agree with you. I agree with you, Bobby. Yes, Judaism is tribal. It's for them. But Islam and Christianity are universal, meaning there's no racial boundaries. So they've given it to the goyim so that they have no racial boundaries. But the Jews do. That's why they hate Christianity.
Ian MalcolmWait, hang on, hang on, hang on. Was it not the Crusaders? and Christianity that essentially thwarted all of Judaism. I mean, who do you think it was that was expelling the Jews a thousand times? Yeah, expelled.
@handsometruth__Expelled. That's the thing. You forgave them. You didn't bury them, okay?
Ian MalcolmOkay, so your suggestion is to now call for genocide. Is that what I'm hearing?
@handsometruth__No, no, no, no. I'm saying it would have happened naturally for what they did a long time ago. But they went to other Christian nations. They went to other Christian nations.
@bobbyfischer_gmThe concern has been noted. Can we move on? There's people at their hands up.
Ian MalcolmLet's go to Mav.
@joann_marieYour microphone is really low, Mav.
@hummingbirdfreqThere you do.
@mavmetaxI'm sorry. Mav? I love when people try to say that Christians are cocked, cock-holed, and... it's so not true if you understood what jesus meant so like when jesus said turn the other cheek everyone's like oh that means you know if someone does something walk away no you have to go back to the time when jesus said turn the other cheek normally you would get it would be a backhand to the face if they then smacked you with an open hand that was totally disrespectful because that's how you wiped your bottom that allowed you to turn around and fight
@mavmetaxForgiving your enemies. That's not for your enemy. That is for you. You're not supposed to have hatred. Doesn't mean you can't fight. Doesn't even mean you can't put them to death. But you are told not to hate them because it frees your soul. It's not for them. It's for you. And the same thing with fighting. There's nothing in there.
@mavmetaxMan, if Jesus was around today, he'd be locked up. He would be hated. and told he was violent and be attacked for that. It's just slowly over the centuries been milked down to, oh, Christianity is weak. It is quite the opposite, quite the opposite. It's just misinterpreted. And I think a lot of that, I'm Catholic, so we believe in that.
@mavmetaxWe believe even on the cross, Jesus... He was a big, strong man. He was like the perfect specimen. In order to carry that cross, in order to carry that cross the way he did after taking that beating, you know how big and strong he had to be? He was a carpenter. He was a big, strong man. He wasn't frail.
@handsometruth__You think a Jew was a carpenter? That should tell you that the story is fake from the get-go. You think Jews built things?
@hummingbirdfreqHe was Aryan, though. He wasn't Jewish, that's the thing.
@handsometruth__Can we take a poll on if Jesus is Aryan in here?
Ian MalcolmHow about we think about this logically and we recognize that a chaos agent just came into the room and is disrupting everything and is not letting the next speaker speak. And HT, if you want, you're welcome to go into your space with your six or seven people that listen to you talk about the same thing over and over and over again, which is just very bizarre because
Ian Malcolmused to be white nationalism, which you just said moments ago that you still support. And yet Donnie Darkened and a whole bunch of other non-white people are now your besties because you all just hate on Christ. And it's all very tiring, but you're welcome to go do it. Just if you can behave yourself and control your impulses, you can stay on the panel.
Ian MalcolmIf not, just please leave. But get back to Mav.
@handsometruth__Can't respond.
Ian MalcolmTo which piece? Yeah, you have 30 seconds.
@handsometruth__Go for it. Donnie Darko, I brought him up there because Donnie Darko is a Negro. and Negroes used to be slaves. And Christianity is a slave religion. So I'm showing you that blacks and browns, Christianity is 80% brown. So if you want to be a slave like these brown boys, keep practicing the Jew religion, boy.
Ian MalcolmBoy? is over here. Really? This is insane. It's kind of funny because I'll tell you what, here you are in my platform, which I'm not, if I'm not mistaken, is the largest geopole space right now. I'm just going to mute you. It's so funny because I remember the 1488 rooms back when you were all about your white nationalism.
Ian MalcolmYou all sat around talking like Dave Chappelle. You're like, oh, all that other nonsense. And you said, you know what's going to happen to you, Ian Malcolm? You're going to be irrelevant forever because you're not racial enough like me and my buddies. and then you said why don't you just prove that you're a white person and why don't you just get on FaceTime with me or send me pictures because I'm trustworthy and all this other subversive nonsense.
Ian MalcolmI largely think that you're an op. I think that you're a chaos agent. I don't really think if you're not that you matter much and ironically it is you who is irrelevant therefore in the room with me and all the people that are listening because the room that you have are essentially devolved into rather nothingness and so
Ian MalcolmYou're welcome to participate, but if you're going to, you need to be somewhat respectful of the room because, well, it's the one that I built with all of these wonderful people. And all of us are very cordial. We are loving. We're trying to make the world a better place. You're welcome to your take. You can share it. I'll let anybody up here, Jew or Gentile, which some would accuse you of actually being the former.
Ian MalcolmBut if you're going to, you're not going to disrespect other people that are on the panel. And so you get 30 seconds, and then we're going to go back to Mav and other civilized people. I didn't disrespect anyone.
@handsometruth__And, you know, if I wasn't relevant, I mean, I guess, you know, the SPLC filing two lawsuits against me. And I was the first person to open the first pro-white live streaming platform. I've been jailed four times for free speech.
Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on. You're saying the lawsuits that are actually limiting free speech?
@handsometruth__You think that's helpful for us? The SPLC is going to lose this lawsuit. And they're the ones that are being investigated by the federal government right now and being caught for funding white nationalism and fucking ops. So... You should be thanking me for actually standing up for free speech rather than being anonymous in a Twitter space, okay?
@handsometruth__So let's talk about relevance and meritocracy. I know you guys are Christian and you practice egalitarianism and you think we're all equal, but we're not. And you're not equal to me, Ian. Go ahead. Wait, if I'm, yeah, I'm not equal.
@ivehadenoughsweIan, could I just say something?
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, hang on. You can try and take a little smug shot and gaslight and all this stuff. You're here. When was the last time I joined anything that you have created, HT? I'll just let the audience come later. I'm here to recruit, Ian, not to talk to you. I'm sorry? Wait, HT, was it you who wanted to FaceTime me? Just for the audience's interest?
@handsometruth__I've never cared if you're white or brown, dude. I really don't care.
Ian MalcolmOh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, HT, you're going to say that? No, you've always been a big fan. Hang on, hang on. You're going to pretend in the 1488 rooms you didn't actively encourage me repeatedly to send you pictures and to FaceTime you to validate my whiteness?
@handsometruth__I was just trying to hit on you, bro.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, no. You said a picture.
Ian Malcolmin the space, you also in that same space, you said you can FaceTime me, bro. I'm trustworthy. I've had people FaceTime me before. Wait, okay. HD, I have a memory like an elephant. Please do not lie. I will make you look silly. You asked me to dox myself to you that you were trustworthy so that you could validate to the rest of the 1488 people that I was a white guy because apparently that matters a lot.
Ian MalcolmAnd yet here you are in my space. You know why? Because your comment about relevance, it was wrong. Your suggestion that we should only band together with white people was wrong. The thing that we need to do is to expose Jewish supremacy. I've been saying the exact same talk track. I've been consistent forever. And you know what I recommend to everybody when they try to figure out who is trustworthy is look at who is consistent.
Ian MalcolmYou know who is not? This guy. Because it was white nationalism until it was about hate all the Christians. And it's all very, very, very strange and he can try and normalize it any way he wants. It's all a bunch of silly nonsense. So you can go hang out with Dr. Carlin, who I think is a complete op. And I had her into a space with Truth Teller.
Ian MalcolmShe got all upset when we started talking about Jewish supremacy. Now you hang out with her. You hang out with Adam Green, who, oh, by the way, his no more news and the Amalek Moore or whatever that other guy is. So an interesting thing about him. I didn't repost it because I don't like to try and participate in doxing exercises.
Ian MalcolmBut that guy certainly looks like he's full of SHIT. And so you've got Adam Green, who Sir Eskenor has linked to Israeli software efforts, if I'm not mistaken. We've got Dr. Carlin, a crazy person. We've got Donnie Darkin, who I guess was part of the Q thing with Dustin Nemos. And we've got HT, who wanted me to dox myself because he was trustworthy.
Ian MalcolmEverybody is welcome to their conclusions.
@handsometruth__HT, you're welcome to 60 seconds, and then we're going to move on with the conversation. I appreciate it. Yeah, Ian, I don't think you're that important. I think a lot of guys did have kind of a hard-on for you. I was taking the route of what you were doing.
@joann_marieHow is this degeneracy, HD? What the fuck?
@handsometruth__Yeah, I was a civic nationalist. I used to work with non-whites actually in the streets with blacks and Mexicans and Asians. I actually did that in real life. So I understand the thought of all of us coming together. And I just don't think overall it's going to work because I think the reason why we've lost our country is because we've lost tribalism with the white race.
@handsometruth__And I think that that's probably one of the big issues that I have with Christianity. I don't hate... Christians, okay? I want white Christians to wake up. I want every, I want those Muslims to wake up too. I want Satanism, all these people that practice that, it's all Abrahamic. I don't think that we need Abrahamic faiths.
@handsometruth__I'm saying this is the destruction that's leading the whole world, if we want to care about everyone, the whole fucking world off a cliff with Islam, with Christianity, for the fucking Jews, okay? So if you want my little fucking kumbaya piece, everyone's going to die practicing this fucking sand nigger faith.
@bobbyfischer_gmwell i think you're just a divide and conquer person so thank you so much for coming up divide and losing but uh he's welcome to his take oh no the jews are going to conquer with people like this hey is it all right if i hop in here yeah go for it all right if you guys don't mind i'm trying to i'm trying to leave as soon as possible so is there anything else anyone wants to ask me before i head out i was gonna ask you uh some stuff um
@hummingbirdfreqSo I appreciate this space and I guess just like a couple of quick comments and then I'll ask what you think about something. So I think that there isn't like a hidden elite pulling the strings of everything that's like a non-Jewish entity. By all measures, Jews hold the majority of the power in the world, and they're the ones who are pushing their agenda.
@hummingbirdfreqThat sounds so fucking AI.
Ian MalcolmAlright, we're just gonna move on to the, uh, yeah, so, given that, sorry there, uh, yeah, Hummingbird, why don't you put him in the purple place? Give him a chance. Well, I know that, uh, I know that Bobby's looking to close his face down. That's not very Christian of you, Ian.
@handsometruth__That's not very Christian of you. He's got a speech impairment.
Ian MalcolmOh, wow, look at this. Not very Christian of me, says the, uh, says that guy. Um, Bobby, let's go back to you, Hummingbird. Okay, let's, uh... No...
@aaronstaley111I think as a white man, I appreciate HT's statements about how we are being judged.
@hummingbirdfreqI was just gonna add in there. I think the reason for it is Christ and the Israelites the apostles
@hummingbirdfreqand I want to ask him if he thinks that most Jews understand that most everyone else perceives Jews as white and so the hatred that is lobbied towards Jews is often actually anti-white hatred that they themselves have created and continue to foment. Whereas even these leftists who they've indoctrinated, they consider Israel a white supremacist state.
@hummingbirdfreqAnd so I wanted to ask him if He thinks that they're aware of that, and it seems as if it's perhaps suicidal hatred that they hate us more than they love themselves. And if he wants to comment on that, I would appreciate it. And if he thinks that there is a solution in all of this, perhaps the... The Jews and the Whites Can Reconcile?
@bobbyfischer_gmPeople who largely founded America, the Pilgrims, the Europeans or whatever, the system that they built and founded America on has been undermined by this group of people. And yeah, there's definitely been a lot of the whole diversity and the just anti-white stuff has been pushed by the media, who runs the media. Yeah, so that's all obvious and uncontroversial.
@bobbyfischer_gmMy kind of concern is like,
@bobbyfischer_gmI certainly think HT is not helping at all with his whole shtick. And I lament the fact that we were having a really positive space and then we just get just nonsense going on. And there's just so many attempts to stain what we're doing, Ian. And that's something I want to talk to you more at length about, about the whole concept that there's just such an effort to stain anyone who's actually talking about well-founded things with just like,
@bobbyfischer_gmEvery time.
Ian MalcolmAnd Fortisworth, I mention those faces a lot because back in the day, those were the only groups where people would allow me to talk about this problem. But every time it would go, oh, yeah, no, no, no, no, no. But then when I'd say, okay, so, so what needs to be done and I'll never forget this. It was with HD and Joel Davis in a space.
Ian MalcolmAnd like I said, I have a memory like an elephant and Joel Davis and look, the guy has gone out. He's done a lot of public activism. He was arrested for his views. I don't know much about him, but let's presume it all in good faith. And he also, he's a well-spoken individual. And he said that what I was trying to do was to create a global PR campaign.
Ian MalcolmAnd he said it as if it was a bad thing. And I said, that's exactly what I'm going to do. I believe that is what needs to happen, is global awareness to this problem delivered in an intelligent fashion, not going around and saying crazy things, not yelling at people of whatever it is, whether it's based on their faith, whether it's based on their race, getting in the face of children and saying blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Ian MalcolmNo, that's an embarrassment to everything that we are trying to do. We are trying to go in to a five-star restaurant. to present a very complex idea and along come a band of misfits. No, that is not helpful at all.
@bobbyfischer_gmI agree. And that's what I would say is like, I'm not, I don't, I'm not with any of these people. I don't, I mean, I'm not even with anyone. I speak for myself. I'm not part of any, I don't even describe myself as being part of a movement per se, because I don't know what it entails. I'm just saying what I think and people that agree with me or what, or support me or whatever have, have done so.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I appreciate that. And that's all I'm framing this as. So to, I guess, finish answering this guy's question, you know, that's part of my whole, I mean, I'm an American. And I think that the majority of people that describe themselves as Jews have continued to support Israel, which is stabbing America in the back. So that's the main problem I see.
@bobbyfischer_gmI don't, I think that's arguably the biggest problem facing America. And I don't think like, I don't, I haven't fully come to a conclusion about the racial side of things, and that isn't what I tend to focus on. I mean, I focus on the concepts of tribalism, whatever, but my ideology and my belief system and what I view my mission to be is not based on race.
@bobbyfischer_gmAnd I think that folks that seek to make the stuff that I'm talking about, about race, it makes it look bad and ultimately is a threat to it.
Ian MalcolmThe only thing I would say is that it is worth noting that the Jewish supremacists are clearly out to destroy, let's just think of them as traditionally Western white cultures. And that concept of the clergy plan, whether or not people want to suggest that it is happening because it is the predestined animosity driven agenda of Jewish supremacists,
Ian MalcolmPeople are welcome to say that they don't think that that is, let's say, part of the battle plan, but it is undeniably happening. And so I will continue pushing against mass migration, misintegration, not in the sense that if people want to choose to be in whatever relationship they want, they are welcome to do them, right?
Ian MalcolmBut the idea of socially engineering that into people Right? Taking essentially a racial pairing that as of just a generation ago was less than 1% of all marriages and making it 50, 60, 70% of all advertisements. You look at that, that is, it's social programming, right? It is no different than if you tried to put gay people into every commercial and guess what?
Ian MalcolmThey've done that too, right? So, so that is where I look at it and I say, this is, this is terribly wrong. And when it is also inevitably the outcome of it becomes the essentially the genocide of my people. I will absolutely stand up for that. I will call it out. I will notate it. And again, it doesn't mean that it has to be the, how do I say this?
Ian MalcolmIt is not because I'm rejecting that, that I have animosity against Jewish supremacy, let's say, right? It is not that I am saying you're doing this, so therefore I hate you. No, but I note that the power structure that clearly controls all these things seemingly or just. Hey, Ian. Yeah, thanks for letting me up. I remember that space in the 1488.
Ian MalcolmThat was like two years ago.
Speaker 4And it was probably like 10 o'clock. You came up to speak. You were talking about how you wanted to bring everybody on board, whether we were non-white. And they all started getting up on you saying that you weren't even white to show your arm right now at the FaceTime. That was so fucking funny, bro.
Ian MalcolmYeah, it's something. And I referenced those faces. Again, that was one of the few places where people could talk about this concept. And it was always done through... at least in my opinion it was done through lenses of generating animosity against others based on demographics and I just don't think that that's a meaningful way to go about this and Bobby I think you'll like this one because I don't think you've probably heard this but the thing that I said in those conversations by my driving thesis was that even if they could get because in reality if it was going to be based just on demographics and on this idea of
Ian MalcolmPushing back against something as white nationalists, if that was going to be the branding, that what they were going to have to inevitably do is to basically suggest that out of the entirety of the United States, that their audience for that message would essentially be reduced down only to men because women would never go against something or go with something that would have that much of, let's say, public outcry, right?
Ian MalcolmThat's just how women are first and foremost. So now you're down to of the 60% that are roughly Let's say white, you're now down to, because after all, nobody's going to get behind this if it's purely just white nationalism, right? It's only going to be white people. You've just cut out half of them. So now it's just men, right?
Ian MalcolmSo it's just 30% of the country of those. You're basically got to get rid of anybody and everybody that is tethered to modernity. Right? If they work in any of these industries, if they live in a big city, all of these ideas are going to be very antagonistic against their way of life because this is just what they've always known.
Ian MalcolmSo now you're basically gonna cut out something like 50 to maybe even 75% of those white men. So out of the 30%, well, what are we now left with? Something like seven and a half percent. Maybe that's a decent number out of those seven and a half percent. You also got to get rid of anybody that of course is going to be LGBT.
Ian MalcolmAnybody that essentially would vote democratic or liberal because they are going to be in favor of those ideas that are quote unquote diversity. So what are you down to of the seven and a half? Down to something like three, 4% of the country, if that? We haven't even gone through all the other factors that could play into something of determining whether or not somebody would get behind this mission, which would probably also include their ages.
Ian MalcolmSo of the 4% of the country that we're now down to, you're probably only going to be able to attract individuals that are maybe 16 to 36 years old, perhaps. So of the 4%, we're now down to 1.5% of the country. If you think that 1.5% of the country that are angry, let's say rural-based, Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian Malcolmon the grounds of race, of creed, of all of that other nonsense. And you know who actually wants that? Are the Jewish supremacists. They want us bucketing into little teeny tiny silos where we can't reach across the aisle. And as a result, we have no ability to go up the hill. So we got to stick together. Obviously, we got to build a critical mass.
Ian MalcolmSo I've been calling for forever. And we, the people that have been participating in this, that's ourselves, that's Truth Teller, that's Sam Parker. People like Ryan Dawson have been talking about this. That's even Suleiman. I'll give him credit because he talks about the Zayos, right? We've gotten this conversation to a point going out into other rooms, not staying insulated in a group saying, I hate all these things.
Ian MalcolmNo, trying to go out and productively bring these uncomfortable truths to the masses, which again, the Jewish supremacists.
Ian MalcolmThank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThere are people getting paid $7,000 per post, and there are people full-time on a roster whose sole agenda is to disrupt discourse like this, to limit and hamstring our ability to be successful.
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, and I'm just going to say this. I want to speed run the rest of this because I want to get out of here, but if you guys want, I'll maybe hold a space tomorrow night and we can continue talking because there are certain individuals here that I want to keep talking to. So, anyway. Yeah, absolutely.
Ian MalcolmWe'll go real quick to Ian and Freda Newgoats and Aaron, and then we'll go to you, Bobby, for some final words there.
Speaker 5Thanks, Ian, and thanks, JoAnn, for having the conversation. I just ran into Bobby last night and he seems like a pretty cool dude, and I just wanted to thank you for being up here and sharing his experience with everybody and you guys for having the space. So thank you. Appreciate it. Good running into you, Bobby. Thanks, bro.
Ian MalcolmI'm a huge fan of Bobby's and the pragmatism with which he approaches this. This idea of looking at it like a game of chess, right? We absolutely, we need to be as pragmatic and as intellectual as we can in this advance. Let's go to Aaron.
@aaronstaley111Well, hey, y'all. I'm from Southern Ohio. I'm not a white supremacist, though.
@aaronstaley111Did you have a question for Bobby?
Ian MalcolmHuh? Did you have a question for Bobby?
@aaronstaley111No, I don't know, Bobby.
@transformer444Okay, I don't know what to make of that, but all right.
@aaronstaley111My point is, like, with the Jewish supremacy and stuff, like, yes, I don't like Jewish money being into our elections and stuff, but I am American, and I want to get different opinions on... I don't feel like there's a way voting out of our situation, but we do have to come together. I think Ian said that about having different ideas and stuff.
@aaronstaley111And I was just wondering what other people's inputs was of how to solve that.
Ian MalcolmIs that an open request? I wonder if you want to pass it to Rabbi, who I see has his hand up.
@bobbyfischer_gmI want to talk to Rabbi as well. Oh, thanks guys.
@malleusigYeah, before I'll answer that, and before I answer that, I just have a quick message. This space is brought to you in part by the cool, crisp taste of Coca-Cola. After a long day of fighting idiots and other communists online, I like to relax with a tall, cold bottle of Coca-Cola. Coke is it. That said, the... The answer to the question, it's really just educating each other.
@malleusigIt's really just talking to each other and we have to overcome the education that's been put onto us by the idiot box, right? By the big screens that we've been growing up watching our entire lives. The important thing is that we have to reclaim the right to believe in objective reality because that's what's been denied us.
@malleusigThe reason why all this is happening is because we've been told and we believe and accepted that we have no right to question whether what's being fed to us is real or not. We've given up our entitlement to investigate and find out if what we're being told is true or if it's nonsense. And the result of that is that we're being fed greater and greater volumes of nonsense with every generation.
@malleusigAnd when you cut through it and you just, you know, assert your right to objective reality, then all of this goes away. Because all of it is based on and depends on their ability to get us to believe absurdities. I mean, most of Judaism is just absurdities. I mean, just look at the religion.
@aaronstaley111It's not even Judaism. It's just... like it it could be it like just i mean maybe that's the majority of it but it's not even that i think a lot of people like to point fingers at them because they got the highest intelligent agency or whatever well no it's because it's the greatest volume of nonsense that's being shoveled down our throats right yeah yeah you know so therefore that this space is about that right yeah and i just want to say before i continue
@malleusigI thoroughly oppose and denounce anti-Semitism, white supremacy, Judaism, and all other forms of racism and bigotry. That said, there are parts of this that are being told to us which are not real, right? We're being told that this is anti-Semitism, this is racism, and the more gullible among us are accepting it and going with it, and then the rest of us kind of like get pulled along with them.
@malleusig80% of the things that you were told growing up were hateful were not hateful at all. They're literally just people wanting to figure out what the truth was, right? And to people whose existence depends on getting us to believe falsehoods, the truth is fatal, right? So again, I keep telling people, it's like if anyone tries to talk you into hating someone or getting violent or being like, hey, let's kick them all out, right?
@malleusigYou don't have to do that. All you got to do is just educate people, like get people to understand, open their eyes. And once they do that, it's not like they're going to leave, but it's like they can't run these scams on us anymore. And so life gets a lot better from that point on.
@yoteofstreetCan I throw something in real quick?
Ian MalcolmBobby has a second. Yeah, go for it.
@yoteofstreetIs that cool, Bobby? Go for it. I wanted to back on that real quick because if you look at like Ben Shapiro, I don't know if y'all touched on it, but they're talking about the Noahide laws. Well, the Noahide laws, it says about the... You know, do not worship a false idol, like a different God, basically. And that's the thing about it.
@yoteofstreetIt says what it says. It doesn't say anything differently. But the manipulation around it, if you go look online or whatever, they try to justify it as kind of saying something different. No, if you read it verbatim, what it says and the penalty to that is death. And it's like, I don't know what's wrong with people when we start to justify, you know, they have a different God.
@yoteofstreetOkay. And that's cool if they're not impeding in mind or whatever. The whole thing about it is they're trying to get us to accept this Noahide law in America. They're trying to normalize it for some reason. And it's manipulative. And people can't just get up and point it out that it's manipulative because they're sensitive, because they don't want to say things that there is a supremacy out there.
@yoteofstreetBecause there is. Are you talking about the Shiites?
@aaronstaley111What? Are you talking about the Shiites, like the Muslim religion? The Noahide laws.
@yoteofstreetThe seven Noahide laws, right? Do you know what that is?
@aaronstaley111No, I don't. I care less.
@yoteofstreetGoogle it. Okay, but anyway, if they bring that to your country and you have to abide by it, are they trying to force you to abide by it? Would you care about that?
@aaronstaley111No, because in America we got freedom of religion.
@malleusigSo basically what he's saying is the Noahide laws are a set of laws that are made by Jews for non-Jews to follow. And you'll hear this talked about, if you just Google it, you'll see it like Ben Shapiro talks about it, how they want to introduce Noahide laws for non-Jews. and it's it's basically like it's basically like you know the turks deciding what the rules that armenians are going to follow even though they're technically a separate country which the the very concept is oppressive and totalitarian like we are as a group we're going to set the seven rules that you have to follow and it's not a big deal it's just seven rules actually see you go in you have it so much easier than us jews we got to follow 300 plus
@malleusigI have lost track of what question I'm answering.
@aaronstaley111I just want to thank Ian for the space.
@malleusigRabbi, did you ask me a question?
@ceanndachNo, I was just trying to help out with an explanation of the Noahide laws.
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, yeah, yeah, no, I appreciate it. If I could request that we go to love above all for a final word and then I'm out of here.
Ian MalcolmYeah, let's do it.
@loveabovea48592Oh, thank you. I actually, I was just listening. So, and I look forward to talking to you more on this. And I love the idea that someone mentioned the manipulation aspect. because that is possibly the most important since it appears that the coercive manipulation tactics are employed in every aspect of our lives and are, whether it be a deflection, whether it be distorting the context, whether it be changing the topic, all of these different forms of
@loveabovea48592Thank you for joining us.
@loveabovea48592of all the different forms of manipulation that are in play while also understanding the cognitive and the elements of culture and all the political objectives that are interwoven into it. So I look forward to deep diving and talking about that quite a bit more.
@bobbyfischer_gmLikewise. Thank you so much.
@loveabovea48592Thank you.
@bobbyfischer_gmWell, yeah, I mean, that's it for me, guys. Ian, thanks. For the space, really appreciate it and looking forward to the next one.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely, my friend. And Bobby, just real quick as we wind this down, and I know you're newer to your faith, but I always like to end spaces with a prayer in whatever capacity that I can, as well as a little bit of entertainment. So maybe either JoAnn or Rabbi, if they want to fire up some outro entertainment. But as we segue to that, if you've got any kind of words either, they can be spiritual or not, but just words of affirmation for the things that we're doing and or kind of a prayer just to send us into a better place as we wind it all down.
@bobbyfischer_gmYeah, I'll just say to everyone in this space that if you genuinely seek, you will find. And if you knock, the door will be open for you.
@bobbyfischer_gmIf you genuinely want the truth, you will find it. And if you genuinely want good for humanity, you will find a way to provide it. And so I would just encourage everyone to continue following what they believe to be a straight path. And if everyone does that, humanity will actually heal itself.
Ian MalcolmThat is so well stated, Bobby. Absolutely in agreement. And you know what's curious is that speaking of spaces that we did long ago, it was years ago that I did not see any real possibility for bringing about not just the change that we have witnessed, but perhaps even change at all. And I say that because it was so hard to get any of these ideas out in a way that were meaningful, impactful.
Ian MalcolmIt was very difficult to get people drawn in to even feel comfortable discussing it. And yet here we are, Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmRabbi [guest]-Levy, Raed Jamal, Dancing in Heaven, PVG
Ian Malcolmof supremacy are kind of built in or so it might seem in some kind of way that might supersede just the culture and the religion. If so, how do we address that, right? How do we deal with, and we can extrapolate this because perhaps there's something that's of relevance there with the Jewish community. Perhaps there's some relevance with other communities.
Ian MalcolmRabbi, I know you and I have talked about genetic predispositions on other categories, but that's a whole different subject, a whole different kind of words. If anybody's interested in going into those subjects, You can certainly find them on ianmalcolm84.com where all of that information, like we said before, it was all searchable.
Ian MalcolmSo if you want to go in and look up genetics, IQ, crime statistics, any of those topics, right? That is all now available because allegedly Dank put together that incredible website, all done via the AI superpower that he has. And so that is there for all of you. One thing I would recommend if you do go there, as I always do for everybody, always use the VPN.
Ian MalcolmI don't want everybody to be as anonymous as they can, even when interacting with anything and everything. It's just the best practice to always do that, right? And I love everything. I'm not trying to say anything about Dank there, but I always recommend everybody take an abundance of caution, even with JoAnn. It was funny.
Ian MalcolmWe were sending over this pack of information that Dank and I were working on. JoAnn doesn't have any contact info for me, but the ex-DMs. That's the case with everybody. because I want for absolute security for infosec, they would call it. And I recommend that everybody do that. Utilize VPNs, always be careful. Do not give your information to anybody.
Ian MalcolmOn this app, unless you feel completely comfortable being publicly docs, prospectively, because there's a whole bunch of people who look like our friends, then they turn around months later, in some cases, years later, and do all kinds of subversive things. So just like I did two or three years ago, when somebody said, oh, bro, just get on FaceTime with me, I'm trustworthy.
Ian MalcolmAnd I was like, here's my digital middle finger. I recommend all of you do exactly the same thing, right? It does not mean that we have to be suspicious of everybody.
Ian MalcolmAll kinds of bad actors there within. Go and look up if you haven't. Look up Project Pogo and Project Zephyr. You know what the first piece of that puzzle was? To tag and to track dissidents. And you know how they plan to go...
@ceanndachI was going to point out, just since you mentioned it, be careful which VPN you get because a lot of them are actually owned by Jews or Israelis. So make sure that if you get a VPN, you research who owns it first because that's how they get your name, your credit card information, all that stuff, and they can use their ownership of those to actually track you even though you're using it.
Ian MalcolmDo you have any that you recommend off the top of your head?
@joann_marieI'm pretty sure Proton is good. Not 100% sure, though.
@ceanndachI would have to double check, but I think Proton is one of them.
Ian MalcolmPlease put into the purple pill if you have recommendations on VPNs. Obviously, these are not commercial advertisements.
@bobbyfischer_gmAll right. I'm going to head out. Thanks, Ian. Lots of love, Bobby.
Ian MalcolmThank you so much. Appreciate it. Everybody, again, give Bobby a follow and that concept. He's obviously modeling himself after one of the greatest chess players of all time. If you did not hear the beginning of the space, go back and give it a listen. It was unbelievable to hear Bobby walk through the history of that man, his awakening, also Bobby's own personal experience on this journey.
Ian MalcolmI just want to thank him as always. I want to thank everybody that came up here, all the wonderful smiling faces. Thank you so much for joining us.
@joann_marieAmazing. It was such a great space. And Bobby, you're awesome. So thank you. And yeah, we have tomorrow, Psychology of the White Nation. Oh, no, this one. I don't know if Michael is going to come back. And I don't know what's... Tomorrow, I have no idea what's going to happen. Okay, but it's going to be awesome.
Ian MalcolmSo just to clarify, because that sounded a little strange. The guest speaker for tomorrow's space, both his main account and his alt account have both been suspended. So we might have to do an audible. And for what it's worth, JoAnn has reached out. I'm sure everybody saw the viral video of the individual who's running for Congress.
Ian Malcolmwho got pulled over on the side of the road, had some choice words, found himself in some hot digital water. She's actively trying to see if we can perhaps get a conversation with that individual Matt in place of Machiavelli in the event that he is not able to participate. So trying to see if we can get that scheduled and I'm sure everybody's familiar with that individual.
Ian MalcolmShould give him some love. He was running actually a conversation on YouTube. I don't know if he's done a space yet, but we're gonna see if we can make that happen because Joanne is just incredible.
@ceanndachAnd I put a list of VPNs in the comments of which ones are owned by Israel and which ones are not.
@joann_marieAwesome. Thank you so much, Belteshazzar. Yes, I'm talking to Matt's team and I sent him a couple of emails and messages, but I still don't know if he's going to be able to for tomorrow, but it's going to be awesome tomorrow as well. All right. And then on Wednesday, Resiliency's resistance with Mohams that he has another account called...
@joann_marieYeah, Mola or something like that. And he's absolutely amazing. And on Thursday, we have Israel and False Flags with Jamie. I don't know.
Ian MalcolmOh, Jamie McIntyre. That'll be.
@joann_marieYes. It's going to be awesome. So no, it's going to be amazing. And I hope to see you guys here every day. And excellent space. So thank you so much.
Ian MalcolmI mean, the fact that Mo's account got suspended and now his new one, he's up to 7000 followers or something like that in the course of maybe a week or two. It tells us a little bit something about the following that he has behind his ideas. So very excited for that. And if he's got ideas that got him suspended, I think they'll probably be in line with some of the things that
Ian MalcolmI want to suggest that both...
Ian MalcolmTo give credit to him for having the, let's say, the wherewithal to go through that because it's got to be a difficult and challenging experience, right? As an individual from that tribe and noting all of the things that they've been doing that are truly rather demonic at a macro level. And so his willingness to acknowledge, to speak out against.
Ian Malcolmand the, let's say the intellect to recognize that just like a game of chess, that we've got to be very, very pragmatic with how we approach this. So we will continue trying to band together with absolutely anybody and everybody that we can to make a difference, right? And to try and make the world effectively a better place for everybody.
Ian MalcolmIn the process, we can make it a better place for all of us and our civilizations individually. And as I always joke, that's for the Americans, that's for the South Americans, regardless of the country, right? It doesn't matter if it's in Brazil, if it's in Canada, if it's in France, if it's in Germany, I want all of those countries to be able to look, to feel like they should based on the people, their culture, their cuisine, their heritage.
Ian MalcolmI want to go to France and I want to walk into Paris and I want to smell a baguette or a croissant. I don't want to see a McDonald's cheeseburger. It's not of interest. And so I think if we can recognize that that is of importance, if we can prioritize that on behalf of everybody. We are doing a service not only to each of those nations and each of those people, but to humanity at large.
Ian MalcolmAnd that is why we are going to ultimately win in this endeavor. The Jewish supremacists have been doing what they've been doing prospectively for centuries. It has not ever worked. Global domination has not happened. They've been very effective. I mean, that post about the Pike letters. And for anybody not familiar, it's basically a high ranking.
Ian MalcolmI think it was like the 35th degree or whatever it is of the Freemasons, right? And Albert Pike basically wrote there are gonna be three great wars. The first was going to tear down the Russian empire. It's gonna take down Christianity in Russia because that was the stronghold, right? They did that. The second piece was gonna be to use that and to basically tear apart nationalism all across Europe, which is kind of what they did in World War II.
Ian Malcolmand the third piece was to utilize Christianity to go to war with Islam and fighting the Muslims that basically the Christians and the Muslims would both exhaust one another to the point of desperation and ashes. And that from those ashes would arise literally atheistic, if not Satanistic dystopias. And who do you think was going to run that?
Ian MalcolmIt's a pretty obvious answer. So if you look around at the world today, I hate to say it, but they're kind of two for two. and this third piece, the third act of their pike letter, right? It's either going to be us and humanity or it's going to be them and that future in which we're either living under the terminator or under Ben Shapiro-nator.
Ian MalcolmIn either way, I don't want anything to do with it, right? And so we're going to keep doing what we can do to try and make a difference. We will try and grow our voices as best we can. Take all these ideas, go out into your local community, right? Go to your parish, go to your place of work, Go to your place of education.
Ian MalcolmGo to your town center. Like Tim said, Tim Lorton earlier on this space, right? Go to your town hall and ask, why are you funding Israel? And then note as they kick you out of the room like they did with Tim. How crazy is that? It's almost as if the ideas that we've been sharing for years are spot on accurate and that Israel and Jewish supremacy control the United States government and effectively every aspect of power there within.
Ian MalcolmBut the good news is that they are small in numbers. They are small in interest. And as a result, there's going to be a monumental, a tidal wave worth of people in rejection to that, right? So we don't have to advocate for kinetics. We don't have to advocate for war, for bombs, for bullets, for genocide, which might've been referenced earlier by perhaps a chaos agent, right?
Ian MalcolmWe don't need to advocate for any of that. What we need is to expel intellectually and spiritually Jewish supremacy from our worlds, right? We cannot tolerate this idea that one group gets to be superior to everybody, gets to demand their enslavement, maybe gets to set up a whole bunch of guillotines because they get to say, you know what?
Ian MalcolmYou don't worship the right way, so we're gonna take off your head. That is crazy town. So we are going to oppose that at every turn. We're gonna make the world a better place. We're gonna ultimately be able to rebuild the West for the Christians and the white, I don't mean kinetically.
Ian Malcolmbut certainly intellectually and spiritually and politically. They cannot control our countries. So lots of love to absolutely everybody. If you did not get a chance to speak, I apologize. We got all the spaces coming the rest of this week. If we cannot get the congressman prospect into the conversation tomorrow and if the other speaker that we had previously scheduled is not able to join, we will do an impromptu open mic.
Ian MalcolmSo everybody, it'll be like on Oprah. You get a mic, you get a mic, you get a mic, you get a mic. The only people who don't are the chaos agents. I can almost say that with absolute certainty, right? I can't say it with complete certainty because then I'd be lying to everybody. But I'm very, very, very confident that we will.
Ian MalcolmRight, we've just got to keep our eye on the prize and on that northern star. And so as always, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you might be in the world. And with that being said, Rabbi JoAnn, any kind of musical outros you might have for us?
@joann_marieYes, I got... Oh, go ahead. No, you can do it. I had one of Joey's, but you can do it. I have one of Joey's too. I know we have the same... Which one? Here we go. Ready? Here we go. I'll play it.
@malleusigWhere did it all go wrong? The demonic cult decided to enslave humanity under the doctrine of Lucifer. And because they were continually banished for such evil, they adopted secret protocols to lie, infiltrate, and destroy their opposition from within.
@malleusigThe most powerful governments and monarchies were quickly in their pocket and those who opposed their rules were aggressively removed and replaced.
@malleusigPeople were distracted, dumbed down, and taught to swallow a system of material worship, division, and oppression where war, poverty, and disease would be intentionally used to make the people increasingly weak.
Ian MalcolmMuch love to all of you and very, very, very excited for all that we've got coming up. I just had to troll. Apparently somebody put... God, our detractors are so low IQ. JoAnn, this is my favorite. Somebody just sent me a thing. Apparently somebody perceived the video that Philek made of Ian Malcolm doing the dance from Austin Powers with Mini-Me as Rabbi Shmuley.
Ian MalcolmI guess they perceived that. They were under the impression that that was me trying to cuddle up with Rabbi Shmuley. What the fuck? Who goes up with that? We have the craziest detractors. It's unbelievable. Yes, no, folks, for anybody that's unaware, putting Rabbi Shmuley's face on Mini-Me and popping him around, that is mocking the guy.
Ian MalcolmThat's not lifting him up. But so what are you going to do about it? So the words of that song, what we're going to keep doing is what we've always been doing, which is just trying to speak the truth, trying to make a difference. So lots of love. God bless to all of you. Go give a follow to Joey Good. Thank you so much for being here.
Ian MalcolmWe will see you guys in the next space. God bless. Godspeed.