TPUSA & Zionist Propaganda With @anaescobarshow & @AdamEMedia1

1:02Ian MalcolmWell hello, Mr. Christopher, how are you? I see we got the lovely Joanne up here trying to get you a co-host invite as well.↗

1:16Speaker 1I am blessed. How are you, Ian? I'm excited for tonight's conversation.↗

1:20Ian MalcolmOh, absolutely, very excited. Gonna have two wonderful guests here to speak with us, and, and going to be covering in particular a subject that the two of them are both extremely informed on, and I say that because, obviously everybody's been witnessing as the Charlie Kirk, saga, with his death, the change in stance of- Turning Point USA, the funding mechanisms behind that, and, and what perhaps has poisoned the well of that entity. There's, there's nobody that can present that story better than the one and only Mr. Sam Parker, and also, very excited to have Anna Escobar with us. This will actually be the first time with her on the, on the program, but, but two wonderful researchers that I don't think could better dissect all the weird, strange nuances of this story, the twists, the turns, and- Very excited to unpack that with the two of you, with both Joanne, the co-hostess, with Demosis, and Mr. Christopher Woods, who is going to be going forward our resident Thursday co-host, for all of these conversations. And so very excited to make that an official kind of weekly regimen here with you, Christopher, and, and just humbled to have both you and, Joanne as well as our esteemed guests for today.↗

2:41Speaker 1Thank you so much for those kind words. I'm absolutely, I'm, I'm so thankful that you would allow me to, join in on these Thursday nights and help co-host. It's, something to look forward to, no doubt. Joanne, how are you doing?↗

2:59Ian MalcolmOh, Joanne, a little quiet, surprisingly.↗

3:04Ian MalcolmOh, nope, coming in.↗

3:08Ian MalcolmMaybe not. I think having, perhaps a, let's see, we'll try to recycle Joann, see if that works. And, and what an interesting, set of, of scenarios in which to have this, this conversation, Christopher. And I say that, just because of everything going on, obviously, with the recent decisions by the Trump administration to prospectively pull out, this memorandum of understanding, which is gonna shift the dynamics, taking place over within Iran. It looks like the United States, for the time being, at least, gonna pull off of the gasoline. And And, in doing so, upsetting a whole lot of, of apple carts. I, I, I see the timeline just littered with all sorts of, Jewish influencers, talking heads, politicians. So many that are basically saying, and you know, the curious piece about it is so many of these individuals are saying, "How could Trump possibly have pulled a one eighty and pulling his support on this war? That's what we all voted for." And it's like, no, guys, Donald Trump ran on a campaign Campaign of no new wars and has gone to war twice with Iran in, in roughly a year and a half. This is the, this is ex-exactly what he ran on, which is not, getting involved in military escalation. but all he's done over the last year and a half is precisely that for the benefit of these groups of people. So it's just been very ironic to see the likes of Ben Shapiro say, "How can he do something so anti-American?" And all we, obviously see is that these wars have been terribly detrimental to- American interests. So it's the, you know, up is down, down is up. If you do the thing you said you'd do on the campaign trail, it's going against your campaign promises, or at least such is the perspective of, of, all these Jewish individuals, and those align with them. Joanne, is the, the audio coming through for you now?↗

5:05@joann_marieIt, it was. I just couldn't open my mic before. And, Ian, thank you so much for-- Wait, can you guys hear me?↗

5:11Ian MalcolmWe can.↗

5:11@joann_marieYes. Okay. Thank you Thank you so much for hosting, and Christopher, I love when you come host, so thank you so much for being here. And everybody, thank you so much for being here. Please repost this page and follow Ian and Christopher. And I can't wait to listen to Sam and Anna. I, I've never met Anna before, but I, I'm really excited to meet her. And I love when Sam comes, so yeah, thank you so much. And the crash house is with, with the Jews and the Zionists and the monarchists, and it's just absolutely glorious. Like I don't, I have no faith in the deal because I know Israel is gonna break it anyway, but the crash out is just beautiful. And it's crazy how fast they turn on him, you know, before it was like, "He's the best president for the Jews, we love him," and now it's like, "He's the greatest enemy of the Jews, we must destroy him." Like these people are insane. So, no, I, I'm loving the crash out, but no, happy to be here, and thank you so much for having me.↗

6:11Ian MalcolmYeah, absolutely, and, and you The complete one eighty, it's just so wild. I think, individuals were walking around like Ben Shapiro, they were touting the fact that, Donald Trump had a ninety plus percent approval rating in Israel as if anybody cares for the opinions of the Israelis on the US sitting president. I'm sorry, we don't care at all. It's actually a terrible thing if, ninety plus percent of Israelis support Donald Trump, but, not even a third of Americans support what he's doing. That is, these aren't Metrics that we should be celebrating or that anybody, you, you would think that that would be embarrassing for Ben Shapiro to mention that, right? You would think that he wouldn't want to tout that information, but just goes to show how clueless these individuals are. They are so arrogant, the hubris is unbridled, zero self-awareness, right? Oh, great, wait, Donald Trump's doing such a wonderful job. He's so pro-American, nobody's happy except the Israelis. That's, that's indicative he's doing a wonderful job. That's- Mega, right? We gotta make America great by impoverishing it and basically utilizing all of its military, exhausting all of its rockets, and, impoverishing all of its people for the benefit of Benjamin Netanyahu. That is Americana, folks. speaking of which, I just have to comment, how wild is it that, Americana in the eyes of these people is subservience to, Israel and Jewish interests? It is the UFC on the front lawn of the White House with Mo- what is it, motorcycles, right? Mo-MotoGP, whatever they call it. Yeah, we've got guys doing backflips on motorcycles in front of the White House with fireworks. America compete. Like, it's unbelievable. This is idiocracy come to life. All of our treasure, all of our military, all of our technology being sent over for the benefit of Israel. But maybe that's gonna change, right? We can, we can hope, we can cross our fingers, we can celebrate at least for the- Time, it looks like they're doing something that's in the interest of our own people, and, we can hope that that same energy carries its way to take down bills like two two four, and some of these others that are being pushed to try and align-- I'm not even kidding you, right? How crazy would it have been a year ago to suggest the US government was going to vote in favor, prospectively, of intertwining Israeli military and intel communities with that of the United States? Everybody would- Would suggest, well, obviously that's treason. Nobody would ever support that. That's absolutely ludicrous, and yet here we are. and so this is Americana, is, gifting your military and your intel community to Israel at the subservience of their interests, bombing Iran, motorcycles flying over UFC rings, and in the center of that ring, no joke, the Monster Energy logo, which some would say is, Hebrew for six six six, just kind of coincidental. Totally. but these things are pro-Americana, or at least, again, so we are told by the Talking Heads. but we're doing a wonderful job. So wonderful, in fact, that I think we had to witness as Donald Trump is walking off the ledge that is Zionist suicide of his legacy. and how ridiculous as a final thing, I know we've got, Anna in here, so excited to start hearing a little bit from her. But how crazy is this? Dominic Trippy put up this post, I thought was phenomenal. in terms of how telling it is of the US government, right? Dominic Trippy, DMT he goes by, he shared that apparently there's rumblings inside the White House that Donald Trump decided to reverse course on this subservience to Israel because he's worried about his legacy. And worried about the prospect of a great depression and how that would reflect on his legacy in the long run. So let's think about this. Trump wasn't worried about all of you becoming poor. He's not worried about all of our collective military being sent overseas and exhausted. He's not worried about our soldiers dying on a battlefield for the interests of Israel. No, no, no, no, no. He's worried that in fifty years he might be remembered as the president who be- Got the Great Depression, because that would be sad for him. Not because it means that you're gonna get poor, not because it means that you're gonna watch as your cost of living skyrockets, as your children are sent overseas prospectively for a draft, for-- No, no, none of that matters. He's worried about what he's, what his legacy's gonna say in a textbook, that frankly, if things continue the way they are, well, your, your grandchildren might not even read, right? Because apparently the entire economy is just gonna go down the tubes, so who- Who cares what they read about in fifty years? But that is what is top and, center of him in his concerns, which again, just utterly wild that this is the world that we live in. but that being said, why don't we, why don't we get, Mr. Christopher in here? Very curious for some of his thoughts, like I said, on some of the things that I mentioned. Then what we could do is, if we can get, Ann, I see her in the listener panel, we'll try to get her up Hey, but, Christopher, while we're waiting, any thoughts on kind of the things that I mentioned there, the activities with Trump in the Middle East, or this idea that he's so concerned about his legacy↗

11:41Ian Malcolmthat maybe he'll take notice of the fact that everybody's getting really poor, really frustrated, and really, let's say, dystopian in terms of their, their future opportunities?↗

11:51Speaker 1Absolutely. And I, and I absolutely wanted to say, respond to that, and then you added onto that to even support these ideas when you mentioned, DMT and, and I guess Donald Trump being upset about, you know, his legacy and stuff like that. And, and that's exactly, I think, what's going on. So we know that Donald Trump is a shill for Israel. We do know that Donald Trump is a puppet for the Jews. And from what people have told me- As I've dived into the Jew thing, and you learn about the different sects and the different fightings, within Jewry, is that Jews are like rats, and they eat each other alive, but then when you go after Jews themselves, they all of a sudden stop eating each other, they stop trying to-- you know, they're always trying to cheat and steal from one another as well, right? So they stop trying to cheat and steal from one another to try to focus on the enemy. And I believe that Donald Trump, when he was put in a position, it was always an When I talked at, spaces like last Thursday or even the Thursday before that about that White House whistleblower, David, David Goldberg or David somethingberg, who said, who predicted the COVID outbreak in twenty nineteen He said in twenty twenty, there's gonna be a COVID outbreak, that there's gonna be blackouts in America blamed on Iran and, Project Zayf and Project Fogo. He also said that Donald Trump was eager to become president and that it was all positioned, it was all set up, and he was excited about that. So Donald Trump was playing along with a lot of what was going on because he wanted to-- he wanted to build up his personal legacy, he wants to blow up his ego, he loves his image of himself and stuff like that. He cares more about himself than he does about people, and I think he cares more about himself, like going back to the rats attacking each other thing. He cares more about himself than he does fulfilling the plan of the Jews. So he's getting along with the Jews because the Jews are putting him in position, but he cares more about his personal image. So as soon as, as soon as, like you said, if we're gonna enter into a great depression on behalf of the Jews, don-- and that makes it look bad on Donald Trump, Donald Trump is gonna be like Whoa, whoa, whoa, like I'm here to support you, but, you know, I do care more about my per- I'm not here to die for you, you know? And, it, it's, he wanted like a win-win situation. He's helping out the Jews, if the Jews help out him. But now, he's sitting there, what's the word, the phrase we're looking for? Essentially, he's like the, the scapegoat, or, you know, I think he's starting to realize that he's gonna Has enjoyed for the past few years, even when he wasn't president, he really worshipped the idea, or enjoyed the idea of being worshipped for the four years that Biden was president. He, he loved the idea that he knew that he was gonna get elected again. So, but that's, that's ending after this, next couple years, there won't be no more President Trump, and that legacy's gonna be behind him, and the worship's gonna kinda go downhill, just like Obama was forgotten about essentially, except, you know, oh- The only time Obama comes up is when they talk about the bad things. So, I believe, like, I absolutely agree, Donald Trump is in it for himself, and I know it sucks, that we have Jewish heels all over the place, but I believe this battle of the egos, if you will, is beneficial for us to watch them infighting to a degree and, These Jews are kvetching about this memorandum of understanding, but really, from what I understand, all that is, is the official word for we're, we're talking about some potential peace. So it's not even a peace treaty, it's just them talk-- Like, how, how long has Donald Trump saying, "Oh, two more weeks, we're gonna make a deal," "Two more weeks, make a deal." This is just the official way of saying, "Two more weeks, and we're gonna make a deal." It's-- there's no deal even been made yet. This is just them both coming to the table to discuss any potential ideas, and the Jews absolutely hate it because it should be the Jews' way, or the highway, and Donald Trump, he's got a legacy to maintain and build.↗

16:14Speaker 1And, and last note, the UFC, that UFC, that fighter, that, that had, like, if you're gonna throw, if you're gonna say something and, and make yourself look like a fool, the Michelle Obama's a man's thing, I think you made a comment, Ian, about, twenty twenty wants its joke back or, I forgot what you said, twen-twenty twenty-something or, you know, wants their joke back, you, like, he could have been, he made a, he could have made a lot better or bigger impact by Yeah, Donald Trump is in the Epstein files or we're controlled by Jews, but he made just the, the silliest joke, and that's my response to the UFC thing. Go ahead↗

16:55@joann_marieIsn't it wild that the Pentagon is saying that Israel is spying on America on a critical level, and they are like, "Yes, we should unite the military with them." Like, this is insanity. It's absolutely crazy. But thank you so much, Christopher. And, and I was about to, to come up, she's fixing her mic, but yeah, I'm really happy to be here. Justin, welcome, go for it.↗

17:19@justinecheverr9Hey, yeah, Ian, you're so right, man. Thank God for, for Trump's ego. If it wasn't for ego, his ego, I mean, you, you think that he was actually willing to fulfill this, destruction of modernity don't prophecy that they're so determined to, To, see, see through. I wanna talk about, Charlie Kirk. you know, I, I called the, called the FBI and reported him. I don't know if y'all are aware of this video of Rick Cutler shooting, Charlie Kirk with a palm pistol. I mean, it's, it's absolutely, you know, undeniable that, that Charlie Kirk was shot by the feds. Rick Cutler, you know, he's police affiliated, he's been training, with, was it SWAT teams↗

18:00@justinecheverr9That, that team two days before wasn't actually like employed by them, he was brought in specifically to kill Charlie Kirk. if you look at the video I posted in the blue pill, you can, you know, not only can you see, you know, him aim the weapon at Charlie, you can see the, the recoil of the weapon in his hand as it's, as it's fired off, and then there's actually another video angle of the guy that, on, on one of its still frames, it actually catches the bullet leaving the gun.↗

18:27@justinecheverr9And so, I mean, it's, it's, it's undeniable, you know, Charlie Kirk was shot with a pump pistol. I called the FBI twice to tell them about this, you know, through their tip line, and both times they got extremely-- the, the woman got hostile with me, very dismissive, didn't wanna see where the video was at, didn't even care, you know, how to find this evidence, you know, I'm, I'm there trying to present evidence to them of the true killer, they got like hostile with me and hung up the phone on↗

18:57@justinecheverr9themselves, you know, to, to prove, you know, beyond a shadow of a doubt that Rick Cutler, you know, was the killer. And, you know, the reason that they were so dismissive with me, the reason that they, they hung up the phone on me, is, is because they know that Rick Cutler is the killer, and they don't want to basically arrest him, 'cause then that would be basically, you know, that would open up the whole doorway to them admitting that, you know, the feds were a part of this, assassination↗

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19:27@justinecheverr9So it's obvious that, that Is-Isreal is, is using Christian Zionism as a, as a basically a, a means to recruit, these, these operatives within America to, to basically serve Israel's will. You know, they're, they're using the basically weaponized form of Christianity. I don't know if y'all are aware of this, but the original Christian movement taught that, Yahweh was the demiurge, false god, was Satan of the physical world. the original Bible basically made it clear that, that, you know, the Old Testament God↗

19:57@justinecheverr9Right out and tell him, "Hey, you're worshiping fucking Satan." He, you know, he spoke in parables, that's why, you know, he said, "You know, Satan took me on top of the mountain to show me all the kingdoms of the world." And I told him, "Beat, feed, Satan." Well, that, that deal that, that Jesus rejected is the very deal, it's the fundamental basis of, of Zionism. You know, the very deal that Jesus rejected is the very deal that the tribe of Jacob, the Jews, accepted when Yahweh↗

20:27@justinecheverr9Exist. And so what they're doing is they, they basically, they've hijacked Christianity and, and, and now they're, they're, they've weaponized it to, to basically indoctrinate the populations into this whole idea that, that the, you know, the, the Old Testament God is, is the God of Jesus in order to get convinced Christians to fulfill, you know, Satan's agenda for, for a kingdom on earth. You know, that's why Jesus said, you know, my, my Father's kingdom's not of the material world. He was trying to tell them that↗

20:54@justinecheverr9The one thing that we can do to, to destroy this agenda is to wake up the Christian world to the fact that Judaism is Satanism. I, like, y'all should delve into this whole concept of Marcion. You know, they all say Marcion was a heretic, Marcion was a heretic, this and that. all these people that call Marcion a heretic, Irenaeus, Justin Martyr, they're all Jewish historians that, that served basically the, the, the central banks of Rome, just like, you know,↗

21:24@justinecheverr9To Jesus, to these same Sadducee, money exchangers. Yeah.↗

21:28@joann_mariePlease land it soon.↗

21:31@justinecheverr9What'd you say?↗

21:32@joann_marieOh, please land it soon.↗

21:34@justinecheverr9Okay, yeah. They, they, just like today, they, they controlled the, the banks of, of Rome, all of Rome's, wealth, all of its treasury was held in temples to Saturn. Saturn is, is the god of the Jews, and Saturn is just an ancient synonym for Satan, that's why their holiest day is Saturn's Day. It says right there in the Ten Commandments, the fourth↗

21:54@justinecheverr9Destroy this, this beast. We have to, you know, we have to wake up the Christian world and, and to the reality that Judaism is Satanism. They've all been deceived by the Judaizers. basically that, that was my point. I would love to, you know, talk some more about, you know, Charlie Kirk and the fact that, you know, even Candace Owens is now, touching on the fact that, Erica was affiliated with the, child trafficking out of Romania. That's why she was, you↗

22:20@justinecheverr9Right, get go. she's always been a, basically a, she, you know, she's also in videos doing, CIA training videos, so she's been, she's been affiliated with the CIA, which is, you know, was created to protect the, the Rothschilds' criminal, dealings within the United States, you know, it is, it's an extension of, of the Rothschild central banks.↗

22:37@justinecheverr9she's been affiliated with basically Team Epstein from the, from the word go, and, you know, and it's just now all, all And didn't wanna hear where the evidence was coming from. it's very eye-opening when you realize that, you know, the Fed itself killed Charlie Kirk on, on behalf of Israel. It's, you know, it's undeniable at this point. Anyway, alright. Thank you for speaking. Thank you, sir,↗

23:00@joann_marieJustin. Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly how they killed him, I just know that the official story is bullshit, but I'm still, open to learn more about it and see all the evidence and stuff like that. And guys, please repost this↗

23:19@joann_marieAnd follow Ian and Christopher and Anna that we have up here, and thank you so much for being here. Anna, welcome. How are you? Hey, thanks↗

23:27@anaescobarshowfor having me on. Can you hear me okay? Yeah, perfect. Okay, I'm glad. Yeah, thanks for having me up. I definitely do wanna talk about Charlie Kirk. I mean, the entire TPUSA organization is absolute Zionist trash. So, whatever you guys wanna talk about, I don't know if you wanna talk about the how, I definitely have my own thoughts about that. I don't know- Necessarily subscribe to the palm pistol theory, but again, until we know what the answer is, we have to keep looking. And we know that the only thing we know for sure is that the answer that we're getting from the feds is garbage. It's absolute fedslop. There's not even a reason to engage with their theory. So at this point, I'm open to kind of any theory as far as, what actually happened that day.↗

24:13@justinecheverr9take, take a look at that video. The real, consequential thing is that the, the palm pistol that they used, So they could easily mask it as a thirty-eight six, the only difference is the, the bullet, weight and length is, is different. You know, what they had, what they pulled out of Charlie's neck was a, was a, a bullet fragment. It was the, copper jacket that goes around the bullet. they, they have an actual jacketed piece fragment that proves it came from a thirty-caliber class weapon. That's what they're saying, it's a thirty-caliber class weapon. Well, the Palm pistol is a thirty, thirty-cal↗

24:49@joann_marieWhat do you think was the, the way that they, that they killed him?↗

24:53@anaescobarshowI mean, right now, the palm pistol, I definitely understand. I know that Rick Cutler certainly seems like he, you know, there's very likely some level of involvement. I think it's really interesting that he only joined the team at the last minute, and that definitely is a red flag, right? it's just, as far as the methodology, my feeling I have, watched a lot of John Bray stuff, and I do think that he's done a lot of research on it that's very compelling. But at this point, I've also heard Jason Goodman, I think it was, that was discussing the shot from behind theory. To me, either of those seems equally possible. my thought with Rick Cutler was that maybe it was possible that what he was holding was some sort of trigger device or something like that, but again, I haven't heard- Check out that video that you were talking about, Justin.↗

25:43@justinecheverr9Oh my God, please do. It's in the blue pill. It's like once you see it, you can't deny the fact that it was a palm pistol. There's even a guy, Val, on here on X that, he breaks it down and shows you the, the trajectory and how it, you know, it, it, they were aiming for a hard shot and they collided with the- With Charlie Kirk's cross necklace, and then it bounced up into his neck area. you know, a thirty-eight six will go clear through Charlie and, you know, two guys standing behind him. The reason that it, you know, the bullet was stopped by his neck is because it was a thirty, thirty caliber class-- was a, a thirty caliber short, which fires, you know, half the speed. A thirty-eight six flies at like two thousand feet per second. The thirty caliber short only flies about nine hundred, you know, as fast as a pellet rifle, but it's a↗

26:32@joann_marieAnd I don't, like, I'm just-- You're not sold? No. Christopher, what are your thoughts?↗

26:37Speaker 1Yeah, I'm, I'm not exactly sold on it either. If-- And, and, you know, we say that we have to get to the bottom of this, and I, and I don't wanna be a Debbie Downer, but I believe this might be a, a turn of events similar towards John F. Kennedy, where, you know, there's a lot of theories, there's a lot of ideas, there's a lot of strong ideas, and there's a↗

27:02Speaker 1The, the theory that I'm most subscribed to, if you will, is the exploding microphone theory. What's that? No, never mind, you're back. You're good on front of the little↗

27:09@joann_mariepicture.↗

27:13Speaker 1Okay. Yeah, I, I believe it'll end up like John F. Kennedy, where, you know, all we know is it's an inside job, and we don't know all the exact details. But with, I, I most believe that it's an exploding microphone, is what I, I hear people saying. you know, obviously I don't know everything for↗

27:32Speaker 1I believe the company's accurate energetic systems, they, their plant caught on fire or something along that lines, an explosion happened exactly one month after Charlie Kirk died, and, supposedly, if I remember correctly, it's been some time since I looked into it, there is somebody with paperwork or, some sort of evidence showing that they did develop exploding microphones, and i-it's not a far-fetched idea. We have to remember, The Grim Beeper, Operation Grim-Grim Beeper, if I believe that's- That's what it's called, where they blew up all those pagers and killed all those people. So if, if they're--↗

28:08@anaescobarshowSorry, I don't mean to cut you off, Chris. But I was just gonna say that's, that's the theory that I was referring to that John Bray has looked into really extensively. I think that the shape charge expl- The one that I personally find the most compelling right now, given what evidence we have, Agra Energetic Systems, yeah, they had that explosion. I actually just did a video on it maybe like yesterday. so they had that explosion on September, or excuse me, on October the 10th. They had a, a contract for a extra small shaped charge explosive that had been requested from, I think it was NSE Crane, and that had been-- it was like a short order for an extra small shaped charge, and that, order was- Was fulfilled by, I think, August 26th. It was a very, very unusual contract, something like four hundred and forty thousand dollars, for it to be fulfilled in this really brief amount of time. And a shaverage, you know, I mean, John Bray lays it out in a very compelling way, and I followed his stuff since, I think it was October third. October third is the day that John Bray first posted this idea online, and that factory Was blown off the map seven days later, and that's only a month after Charlie Kirk passed away. I, the video that I did on it was actually about, the fact that it was very interesting to me that the FBI,↗

29:27@anaescobarshowseems to have not only shown up bright and early before the Salt Lake City, trip, they were out there on the eighth of September. They actually did, a last minute trip out there while everybody else was at Fort Wachuka. The FBI's official jet, the one that, you know, takes, Spyder Cash on all his little trips, he went out there really quick just for the afternoon while everyone was at Fort Wedge, and then on, October sixth, just three days after John Bray put that theory online, he made a little trip to Nashville. I'm not sure if he was at a country music concert, I don't know if he was there watching a country music sensation at that time, but the timing's really unusual and the explosion. They did release a report on that explosion at a- Accurate Energetic Systems. They released it on March thirteenth of this year, and they found that that explosion actually, came from the PETN, the exact cast boosters that, are in question here. So, I mean, it's, it's a compelling argument, that's for sure.↗

30:29@justinecheverr9Well, you can't deny the fact that, you know, the, the evidence that they have, you know, they've entered into the court system shows that they pulled a bullet fragment out of Charlie's neck. You know, exploding mics don't throw off bullet fragments. And then also, you know, keep in mind that when Rick, you know, when Rick Cutler pulled the trigger on that thing, there's multiple people in the crowd that looked directly at him, you know, instinctually. The lady was looking at her phone when she heard the gunshot, she looks direct,↗

30:50@joann_mariedirectly↗

30:56@justinecheverr9at Why are you keeping interrupting me? Like, I'm not doing that to you. She's the, she's↗

31:03Speaker 2the, I know, but- Yeah,↗

31:05@joann_mariethat's↗

31:05Speaker 2what she gets to do.↗

31:07@joann_marieAnd also, I'm ninety-nine percent sure that the topic of today is not about how they killed Charlie Kirk. I'm pretty sure it's about the PISA and, and the Zionist propaganda, and some- I don't, I have no idea, but I'm pretty- Well, I'll↗

31:21@justinecheverr9post another video in, in the, in the blue pill and let you look at, you know, there's↗

31:29@justinecheverr9They looked directly towards the direction of the sound, which was where Cutler.↗

31:32Speaker 1It's, it's not- All right, well, people are gonna have their different ideas and their different theories, like I said, this'll be a, a, you know, a spinning conversation because it would be no different than trying to talk about, you know, how, you know, how many times the bullet bounced and what's the true death of JFK and where the, where the shooter was and all that. All we know is Israel's behind it, and, just like John F. Kennedy was shot before I believe that, you know, I hear a lot of these Jews and whatnot, like Laura Loomer, saying that, "Oh, there's gonna be some attack on America by Iran," and people are saying that there's gonna be a false flag attack coming up soon, like nine eleven. But, you know, my personal idea, it might not happen, it, it might, it-- but the way Trump is going, I think that this staged attack, well, not even staged, but a false flag attack, if you will,↗

32:24Speaker 1I think they're gonna-- they, if, I, I wouldn't doubt if the Jews go ahead and dispose of Donald Trump, blame it on Iran, put, and then let JD Vance run for a couple years, for, for the next couple years as Vice President, taking over the powers and, and, and, letting them know, hey, this is what happened to Donald Trump, and it'll happen to you too. You know, these, these people are disposable. You know, Jews are willing to eat each other. Ian, do you have any thoughts by the way on this?↗

32:56@joann_marieI think Ian stepped away for like a couple of minutes, but he'll be back. If you don't mind if↗

33:01@anaescobarshowI, and, I'm so sorry I hate to interrupt, I was gonna say that kind of like building off of what Christopher just said, it's very interesting to me that they, you know, we're, we're thinking that Israel, obviously, we know, we know it was Israel behind the death of Charlie Kirk. But as far as their relationship with Trump versus their relationship with Vance, they're two really different relationships. The thing I keep thinking about, and I'm just↗

33:25@anaescobarshowThe thing I keep thinking about is that they are worried about having JD Vance take office, in the event that Trump goes. But the guy that they really want this entire time has been Mike Johnson. He's the third in line, he's the Speaker of the House. And I keep thinking about the fact that, you know, Trump and Vance haven't been at the same, in the same place at the same time, like, pretty much since all of this really heated up, and it feels to me like that's very much on purpose because I get the feeling that if they had it their That they could get the↗

33:58Speaker 1guy that they really want in. That's a very viable, very, very viable opportunity, it's something to think about, and I wouldn't doubt it. So if Trump gets assassinated, they're, you know, blame it on whoever, Iran or whatever, may they blame it on, and along with JD Vance, and they're gonna have the Speaker of the House take the position, then, I, I wouldn't doubt it at all, and it, it serves two purposes, it, Donald Trump will be killed,↗

34:23Speaker 1and And it'll secure their ideas of, "Oh, these people supported Israel, and it was the enemies of Israel that killed them and stuff like that." I wouldn't doubt it. And we, we do have speakers, I appreciate all your input, by the way, Justin. I just, I just wanna make sure that we're all, I, I don't know if you've been invited, I forgive me, I'm not sure if you've been invited as a special guest or anything like that, but we do wanna try to minimize the interruptions, God bless ya, because↗

34:54Speaker 1Please raise your hand 'cause we're keeping track of your hands, and that's how we know you're gonna talk. If you're not-- If your hand's not raised, you might be dropped down so that way we can make room for more requested speakers. Do we wanna get into the speakers, Joanne?↗

35:08@joann_marieSure. Vigilant was next.↗

35:12Speaker 2Thanks. I think that it's really important that this be, addressed. Extremely professionally and systematically, and we don't skip right to Israel did it, even though I'm in the, I'm definitely in agreement that they are the most highly, likely entity that could pull this off, and, but I don't think that they would do it without multiple layers of plausible deniability, and cutouts in between,↗

35:45Speaker 2Some sort of justice and, what actually occurred. So, we, we can't skip steps and just say it's Israel and then throw whatever out. We have to start from extremely, sophisticated analysis and, peer-reviewed cross-examination of each other until we have it dialed, and then we present that. So,↗

36:15Speaker 1I understand, I, I guess we're just looking at when you, whenever you investigate something, you look for motive, and the, the Tyler Robinson thing, it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense, especially when it took only one shot supposedly. Okay? If you've ever went hunting or, you know, ever went, snipers that have a high priority target, you know, a VIP target, if you will, there's, there's something called buck fever, okay? So even trained- shooters have to deal with this sort of thing where, okay, you have, you know, possibly one shot, you know, you gotta have the steadiest of hands, you gotta be calm under pressure, and↗

36:57Speaker 1Charlie Kirk was definitely a VIP, high priority, target that, I mean, if, if hunters in the woods deal with buck fever and it's just a deer, and, you know, they're looking to get a trophy and bring some food home to the family it just doesn't make sense that some young man who was caught up in whatever he was caught up with, they said that he wrote like, hell divers two, you know, codes on, on the bullets and, you know, different video game references and whatever might be were on the bullets. So it just doesn't make sense that Tyler Robinson, you know, was the guy that shot him. It takes, it takes the most skilled of sharpshooters. If you think about John F. Kennedy, for instance, in-instance, there's people that say that that was an inside job, which I agree with, and, you know, this was a hired shooter, and even it, it took him a few shots before he could even land the shots on, John F. Kennedy. So, you know, just one shot, and then the dude go-- where'd he go to McDonald's or something, Dairy Queen or something like that, it's like, I, I just, I don't, it just doesn't make sense to me. So yeah, and, and go on.↗

38:05@joann_marieAnd, and the letter he wrote to his boyfriend, like, "Hello, my love, it is I," like, "I, no, no, no, it's, it's, it's just so, like, obviously..." No, I, I don't know, I'm offended by this, IUP. But, yeah, can I, can I just↗

38:21Speaker 2finish on Oh, yeah, go ahead, Mr. Mancini. I'm, I'm fully in agreement that he's not the shooter. I, I don't even know if that was him on the roof as the patsy, to be honest. what we're, what we are saying is that our audio analysis sees, firearm in the crowd, but it's just doesn't happen to be Rick Color. That's all.↗

38:44Speaker 1I understand, thank you, thank you. Ian, so, what we talked about, real quick while you're gone, quick recap so we can get your thoughts. we had Justin saying about the palm pistol, he believes Charlie Kirk was shot with the palm pistol. And then, me and Anna kind of, were in agreement that we believe that it could definitely have been a ex-- the microphone exploded, it all tied back to accurate ener-energetic systems, with an exploding microphone, we brought up the fact that the operation Grim Reaper If I remember correctly, where the, the Israelis used, pagers to explode and kill people, and so it's not a far-fetched idea that the microphone was,↗

39:25Speaker 1Was the, was the culprit for the killing, was the tool, and then also that we were talking about the false flag attacks that you see people talking about is gonna be happening possibly, and I suggested the idea that Donald Trump, if he gets too far out of line, that they could just kill him and then put JD Vance into position to secure the next couple years. Anna brought up the point that she said, that they're gonna wait and kill both JD Vance and Donald Trump if they're not in tow, and then put in the Speaker of the House. As the president, and, and that's where we're at, Ian, if you have any thoughts. Well, I mean, isn't it wild that that↗

40:02Ian Malcolmis what we are discussing? Like, let's think about this, right? We've, we've got, prospectively, at least enough evidence, if not concern, that there is a stranglehold that is so absurd on the United States political regime that, that some could even suggest that a foreign government- Government, and nation or set of interests could prospectively try to take out both the president and the vice president of the United States to put in place a patsy that would allow for X, Y, or Z. In this case, I think, reasonably, to suggest that it would be to further the conflict in the Middle East, right? It, it's just insane that that is, is the state of the state, right? while simultaneously- I think this whole Charlie Kirk thing, in a way, it, it almost serves as a perfect microcosm of how holistic the control is of this group that might prospectively try to take out Donald Trump, right? and I say that because it would be one thing if it was a media spokesperson that they vaulted into a position of influence to ensure that a narrative got pushed, but in the case of Charlie Kirk, it's my at least assertion that the reason that he- Basically, was murdered was because of the fact that he was starting to turn against the very machine that we're discussing, and in doing so, this machine was so concerned about his ability to influence the minds of the masses, well, that he had to go. His organization had to be repositioned and repivoted so that it was, you know, pushing the same narrative. And the reason that that's so absurd is because every other part of the, the machine, every other piece of the media already pushes That message, right? So they, they're looking at the, the game board and they're like, "Well, we've got ninety-nine out of a hundred," but, you know, Charlie, I mean, if he's not gonna make it a hundred for a hundred, then he's just gotta go. That, that's clearly, that's unacceptable, right? Like, how insane is it to suggest that not only would it be reasonable to fear that this group of interests might try to take out the president of the United States, but that they couldn't have a single person that was in opposition? To their worldview, right? And, and obviously we then look at turning-- and I know that we'll get into this, right? But you look at Turning Point and everything that came after the fact and social media, and like I said, I know that Anna and Sam are gonna unpack this, but like, how absurd is it that we're on a line with individuals that are certainly far more not only informed than your everyday individual, but, you know, we're sharing a narrative that is against the prevailing winds, and the reason is because the prevailing winds are all being blown by the same set of interests, They're not American. They aren't even Western and Christian, frankly, right? They, they are Israel centric and they are Jew first, and, and there's really no other way Way to say it. I mean, I suppose you could say it's Jewish supremacy first rather than Jew first, and there are obviously-- this isn't an all-- everything is anything, right? There, there are, there are participants in this system that are non-Jewish, but obviously, right? If the lion's share of those involved are Jewish and the lion's share of the interests are in line with either Ukraine or Israel or any other effort or extension of this system, well, then obviously it's detrimental to the, the narrative of the Christians, of the West, of what I would just loosely call white people, right? And, and Charlie Kirk, I, I really do believe the more that we go into these types of topics, and, and I'm really excited for Anna and Sam, I mean, there's nobody that can tell you better about all the assassination attempts of this group of people, and I know there's actually one that Sam was gonna talk about that's kind of a, a potentially a, a, a first reveal, in this space, right? But, but the fact that, you know Strong cases there. We could go to the framing of Richard Nixon, pretty strong case, right? And then Charlie Kirk, I think it's pretty reasonable to suggest, that, that he stood in opposition, he was critical of this one group, and obviously given what happened with Turning Point USA in the wake of his death and how subservient they have become to those interests, it'd be unreasonable not to make that suggestion, right? and it's certainly unreasonable to suggest that Donald Trump right now, should feel perfectly content and- Sleep like a baby, right? He went out and he's upset a whole lot of people, and the people that he's upset, you know, again, JFK and RFK and all these other people might, you know, might be in alignment, and so I, I think it's reasonable to suggest, but the, the thing that I would say as a counter to it, Christopher, and I'd be curious for your thoughts, I mean, let's be real, Trump comes out, he says, "Sorry, Israel, we're not going to do any more of this stuff in the↗

45:00Ian MalcolmI mean, how much more obvious could it get, right? Like, there, there has to be some point at which even the boomers on Fox News that are just, you know, programmed into it, that basically are being drip-fed it as if they, you know, are in a hospital room with an IV. At some point, it's like, guys, I mean, this is just ridiculous. Do, do you really think, Christopher, that Israel could go about potentially assassinating Donald Trump and that even the boomerist of boomer, the boomer- Hangs of the boomers. Do, do you think they would still be asleep at the wheel or no?↗

45:34Speaker 1Oh, a hundred percent they wouldn't, because it would be just, it would just take this one sleeper phrase just to continue to activate their brainwashing. Iran is fed up with, with Donald Trump and, and everything that's gone on in Israel, and it was an Iranian assassin that killed them. Now we have to go to war with Iran. But he just↗

45:52Ian Malcolmgave Iran everything they wanted,↗

45:54Speaker 1right? That, that, you think that could work? Not according, the boomers only watch the, they don't think too deep, they don't look too deep. So, is all, all it would take without anyone having to do any research with this, so the boomers can sleep at night and just hold their anger towards Iran is just say, "Iran Assad has shot Donald Trump and assassinated them. They're gonna rally, it would be the 9/11, you know, people worship Donald Trump. 9/11 would be, and I, and I feel bad for all the victims, God bless them. 9/11 would be like the most babyest of things compared to Donald Trump being shot, because people didn't worship the Twin Towers, people worship Donald Trump, and so, you know, if they hear that Iran had Donald Trump assassinated, if people wanted to go to War over nine eleven, then people are gonna wanna go to war and just, they would throw their children to the wayside. Now, that's boomers, you know, boomers might think that way. You asked about boomers, young men that are serving in the military that already have a, I believe it's like fi- there's a fifty percent where you go to the ethics board to report that, hey, I don't really feel aligned to serve for this war and stuff like that, you have to go and, and, and let them know that your heart's not in it. There's Along those lines of reporting and saying, "Hey, I don't feel comfortable being a part of this war. My heart's against it, my morals are against it." So, you know, the military's mostly comprised, the fighting men are mostly comprised of young men who are becoming dual aware, racial aware, and, and I guess that-- those are the people that matter the most, you know? Are you g- are you gonna be able to get boots on the ground with, with young men who aren't brainwashed like the boomers? That, that, that would be the difference↗

47:40Speaker 1we recognize your hands. I'm gonna go through the list of hands so you know that we will get to you. We got Adam next, Checo, Official, back to Justin again, and then Steele, you just got on. So we recognize your hands.↗

47:53Speaker 3That sounded gay.↗

47:56Speaker 1What did someone say? Re-re-repeat that. you're the↗

48:00@joann_marielast one, Iconic.↗

48:03Ian MalcolmHey, let me ask, hey Anna, would you, d-are you excited to talk and engage with a troll that likely will make a fool of himself, or would you prefer that we just not go there? It's, it's your call, Anna.↗

48:14@anaescobarshowI, I'm all about having fun, so go ahead. All↗

48:17Ian Malcolmright. Brace, brace yourself. Iconic down there is, iconically, not so iconic. it's ironic, wouldn't you say? It's like rain on your wedding day. it's a Hey, listen,↗

48:33@anaescobarshowI, I dealt with, I dealt, I deal with Mingo all the time, and I chase Cyrus off of Sully's face, so no worries. You're the↗

48:40Speaker 4coolest person you will ever meet.↗

48:43Ian MalcolmHey, i-Iconic, who would have thought it, it, it figured, what, what song am I referencing there? Let's start with that one. I have no idea. Alright, fair enough. It's↗

48:54@joann_marielike Ryan.↗

48:57Ian MalcolmJoanne is the best ever, and I'm so glad you're here with us. This is gonna be a lot of fun. let's go back to,↗

49:03Speaker 1to Christopher. yeah, that's all my thoughts on, on that. if you wanna get to the next speaker, we can get to Adam. Thank you so much for your patience, Adam. What's on your mind today?↗

49:17Speaker 5Adam?↗

49:21Speaker 5Yeah, hey, thanks for having me on. Really appreciate it.↗

49:28Speaker 5Yeah, hey. Yeah, can you guys hear me?↗

49:32Speaker 5Yeah, I'm↗

49:32Speaker 6welcome.↗

49:34Speaker 5Yeah, hey, Adam, I was a J-6er, my wife and I were the Fugitive J-6ers, and, I definitely see, and I've been seeing a lot of the craziness and watching the youth movement, I try to get involved with, like, younger people and try to How things are going? I run spaces sometimes. Tomorrow, we're trying to pit boomers versus zoomers, and to try to correct, excuse me, the bias.↗

50:10@joann_marieyou're overbanding.↗

50:15Speaker 5You guys can hear me. Can you like- If you guys can't hear me, I drop down and I can let somebody else go.↗

50:20Speaker 1Just to connect everything and now- Okay, yeah. Give↗

50:22Speaker 5it one more shot here. You said you were pitting↗

50:24Speaker 1boomers and zoomers against each other. Stand still, stand still.↗

50:27Speaker 5Yeah, that's right, that's right. but if I'm rubberbanding, you guys can drop it down. That sounds like an↗

50:32Speaker 3authority. He's an authority figure?↗

50:37@joann_marieIconic, please, please, please, yeah, Iconic,↗

50:40Speaker 1these people might have patience, but I have no patience, dude. I don't know. I will remove you myself. Okay, so you better just↗

50:46Speaker 7call in authority.↗

50:47Speaker 1Okay, okay, that was it, that was it for me. That was it for me. Continue, Adam. Oh,↗

50:55Speaker 5yeah, I, I was a J6er, I'm not an authority. You figure. I was the guy that ran from the FBI for four years, under the Biden administration, so definitely not an authority figure.↗

51:10Speaker 1Yeah, just continue your thoughts so we can get, get on. What were you saying about boomers versus zoomers? What's your plan with that?↗

51:19Speaker 5I'm finding six different youth groups in the DC area. we reach out to Catholic and Greek Orthodox churches. We try to get from eighteen to twenty-five to come out and talk, and we're hosting these events, and we wanna put platforms and venues where we can get Zoomers directly voicing their thoughts to Boomers,↗

51:43Speaker 3you know, and↗

51:43Speaker 5hold a little bit of accountability with these Boomers, and, and I'm having really good- Good traction with this. People really like the format, you know, it's panel discussions, so you have the ability, like, there's nowhere for them to run. They can do their boomer circus, but when they're talking to informed, passionate young people and a panel of them, a lot of their propaganda starts to degrade in real time. And I encourage everybody to do this, it's, it's really fun to watch, it's entertaining. Do you have any video?↗

52:14Speaker 1Are you all recording this?↗

52:17Speaker 5we, we just started the project, but yes, we are gonna record 'em and we're gonna save 'em and we're gonna try to encourage 'em. We've been moving around the DC area, and so, we just did some in Maryland, we're gonna try to do some in Virginia. But it, it's just something that I'm trying to encourage because I'm, I'm, I'm in a bunch of Boomer Patriot groups out here in Virginia, and I am watching these guys just shit the bed on this Trump worship, on this trust- The plan, you know, the house could be on fire, but they're trusting the plan. And they, they like to team up on you, you know, cut your mic. And so I really want a space where they're-- they don't have those tricks and where the young people get an equal say and they can really make their voices heard, you know, I think we desperately need that. This, this divide in the right, like, is not sustainable.↗

53:12Speaker 1I agree, I agree. Thank you so much, for sharing that, and, that's, that's definitely a little, idea that you're encouraging, that's a big one. I look forward to you posting some videos, and, and we'll, we'll see if we can get those viral, 'cause I think a lot of people would be interested in seeing those conversations between the boomers and the zoomers. big deal, congratulations. That takes a lot of energy and effort to get that ball rolling, so that's a big deal. special guest↗

53:39@anaescobarshowNo, I was gonna say, I think it's a really great idea, to be honest with you, 'cause, I mean, that's really the next step, is figuring out what we're gonna do going forward. And as long as it's Americans having those conversations, I'm good with it.↗

53:51Speaker 1Wonderful. Joanne, Ian.↗

53:57@joann_marieI'm good. I, I'm loving it. Ian?↗

54:06@joann_marieNo, I↗

54:06Speaker 1can't hear him. Ian, go ahead.↗

54:10@joann_marieOh, no, maybe he needs to recycle. but Adam is here. Hey, Adam, thank you so much for joining us. How are you?↗

54:19Speaker 4Hey, Joanne, I'm, I'm good. How have you been?↗

54:21@joann_marieLong time! Where have you been? Yeah,↗

54:23Speaker 4yeah, long time. I haven't been on a space in a, in a, in a long time. I, I don't, I don't know. Where I've been is, yeah, I've been, I've been occupied.↗

54:36Ian MalcolmI'll, I'll leave it at that. How about you?↗

54:38Speaker 4Guys,↗

54:38Ian MalcolmI- You sound like the US government, with that, Adam. You've been occupied.↗

54:43Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, the US government, yeah, yeah, the, the White House has been, occupied by, by Trump, playing Caesar and turning, you know, the South Lawn into his coliseum, like literally a coliseum with, I'm curious because↗

55:00Ian MalcolmI, I feel like one of the things that drew, the two of us together is a mutual appreciation for class, honor, dignity, essentially everything that is antithetical to, the Trump administration. Were, were you equally disgusted with the UFC or do you think that it was, I suppose, you know, in some modern rendition, it was, impressive or, or unifying?↗

55:24Ian MalcolmOh, speaking of unifying.↗

55:27@joann_marieOh no, oh, she's↗

55:29Ian Malcolmback. Alright, was I equally disgusted by what, sorry? By, by the UFC, or did you think that it was-- Because I, I saw some people suggesting it was, it was Americana, define, and I, I, I feel almost like it was more Ricky Bobby than it was American, if, if you can appreciate the reference.↗

55:47Speaker 4Yeah, no, absolutely. I mean, the mega-grifters were all in, in force, you know, with the, the talking, they're in unison talking points↗

55:58Speaker 4There was like a, a drunken fight on, on the, on the White House grounds, you know, and people getting arrested and, you know, people were being, you know, s-slovenly drunks all over the place, and, it's not very becoming. on this, you know, p-piece of your history that, you know, supposed to, supposed to have some, some gravitas about it, you know, it's Trump, it was Trump basically just showing the world, you know, that this isn't America's house, like it's his house. It's,↗

56:28Speaker 4you know, it was just, it was a, a show of, it was ostentatious, it was gaudy, it was, Yeah, it, it was unbecoming, a, a sign of an, an empire in decline, in my opinion. And, you know, and then we had the drama with,↗

56:44Ian MalcolmAdam, I think we can move on from it. Yeah. I'm, I'm curious on your thought on this. There, there's some piece of me that feels like we're, we're obviously witnessing, like you said, the civilizational decline. There's part of me that looked at the UFC aspect and it's, it's intertwining with the White House. And to your point,↗

57:05Ian MalcolmJust removing the veil that once existed between what's supposed to be the dignified political establishment and all of its machinations, and that of commercialism and all of these other things that you would think of, you know, let's just loosely think of it as MTV, right? And, and by merging those two things together, it both denigrates the political aspect, but it also removes the, the mystique. You said it perfectly. It's no longer the American people's home. It's Donald Trump's Just personal residence, right?↗

57:37Speaker 4No, yeah, I can say it simply, more simply than that, is, it's slop. It's basically slop. It was a slop fest, you know? But I completely agree with all of that, you know, it was, bread and circuses, and it is astonishing the amount of bread and circuses America needs to, continuously produce to, distract its populace from what's going on, you know? And, and, I was gonna mention like, it was complete with Eric Trump trying to fix the,↗

58:04Speaker 4Comier about, which, fighters were injured and which, fight was rigged to get better on it, and a lot, a lot of people, a lot of people said that was fake news. So, so what, what's the next... So, so Eric said it was AI pictures, right? So if that, if it was AI pictures, did Comier, did he... How would you, how would you get, get fooled by AI pictures of your own chat, because he definitely posted them? You know, everyone saw, everyone saw him post, post that post about, you know, I'm, I'm really disappointed with Eric, like he DM'd me, look at these DMs, you know, so it wasn't a joke, that's not some, you wouldn't post that as a joke. It's not AI pictures because it's your own DMs, you know, and,↗

58:52Speaker 4they just chalked it up to like, it was AI pictures. And, and everyone after that, MAGA just completely, you know, bought it, and people were like, "Hey, the, the, you know, Eric would never do that. He would just never do that. It's, it's, it's not in his character." And people were talking about him apparently stealing from a cancer charity or something. I don't know anything about that. I don't, you know, too much about that child there, but I do know there's been, you know, constant, pumps and dumps and market manipulations of the, of the whole Trump↗

59:28Speaker 4on the Iran, Iran war, all this, you know, pumping and dumping, and everything he's done has, you know, enriched his, his own friends, you know, the Greenland stuff, the Venezuela stuff the contracts, oil contracts of the Iran War, you know, it's all made, you know, his friends billions, even as Commerce Secretary, he was Epstein's best friend, and neighbor, made billions off the whole tariff war, the tariff bullshit that he was doing, you know, Liberation Day, Liberation Day was like banking day for his friends.↗

1:00:01Speaker 4so, you know, it's just been, you know, complete with all this, all this pumping and dumping and market manipulation and insider trading, and- And while distracting it as, you know, patriotic Americaslop, you know, to be eaten up by, by his, his fan base. and I think that was, this is just the perfect encapsulation of that, perfect, you know,↗

1:00:23Speaker 4microcosm of, of everything that's, wrong with the, the Trump regime, which is, you know, they, they fool, fool their base with, you know, placating some Americana, br-bravado, machismo Hyper jingoistic, you know, alpha, alpha dog, America number one, you know, philosophy. Absolutely. Thank↗

1:00:46Speaker 1you so much, by the way, for joining us, Adam. Yeah, thank you, Adam. Thank you, Adam. so it looks like we're not-- we, we don't have Sam Parker on at the moment. We will go ahead and get into the TP USA. We wanna hear-- Thank you so much for joining us, Anna. We wanna hear, w-w, you unpack some of the things with Turning Point USA. And,↗

1:01:06Speaker 1and I List real quick before we get to Anna, so, so you see that we see you, and we will get to your hands. We just wanna go ahead and let Anna unpack some of her points before we get to your hands and, and some of your questions and thoughts. So, after that, we'll, we'll have Checco, we see you, Official, then Justin, then Steele, and then Ahmad. And make sure you're raising your hands if you're on the speaker, then Don Stone. Make sure you're raising your hands because we're gonna-- there's↗

1:01:37Speaker 1Speak, make sure your hands raised, 'cause we will be having to drop speakers as time goes on. thank you so much for joining us, Anna. You wanna, discuss some of those points? And, and real quick, Chris, I was just going to give,↗

1:01:47Ian Malcolma-Adam, a-as always, Adam, feel free, you know, kind of honorary co-host, a-as are most people up here, right? We got a lot of wonderful speakers, but, but I, I am very curious. I know Anna's been doing an immense amount of work So many angles and aspects to it, right? some of which have been kind of beaten, oh man, no pun intended, when I say beaten to death, right? other aspects I know you've been diving into with a, a lot of really original and, and kind of unique takes on them. So I'm kind of curious, where, where do you think would be the best place to start kind of unpacking all that led up to either this day or in the aftermath of it? I mean, feel free to kind of pick in the chronology, where you↗

1:02:37@anaescobarshowYou know, I mean, the thing is, it really depends on how far back you wanna go. If we're talking about how far back this was, you know, planned in earnest, then I would say, you know, within the past year, that would really be the timeframe that we would wanna start talking about. But I do think that, you know, with what Adam was saying, he's exactly right, and the thing that Trump's getting in exchange for selling us out to Israel is the fact that he gets to go and scam in peace, right? His entire family just gets to go and do And they'll let him do it. As you notice, none of the powers that be, none of the, you know, Democrats, have had anything to say up until what today, when they all decided to reveal themselves as neocon war hawks or whatever, right? But that's just because they've been the ones who truly want to drive this conflict. They're just happy to have Donald Trump there to be the boogeyman and be the bad guy so that they can go and continue to be Zionist shells without having, you know, all eyes turned on them. So it's been very convenient. I just think that, as far as Trump goes, this is just-- this is what he's getting in exchange for our country, right? He's getting not just the Gaza Riviera or whatever disgusting planet it is that he has, but he also gets to pull the rug on us and on every single person that ever believed in him and not get into any trouble. There's no pushback. That's over, right? There was a time when we used to care about the fact that, what was it, the, emoluments clause was being violated, right? That was a thing↗

1:04:07@anaescobarshowWhenever a world leader would come and stay at a Trump hotel, that was the big scandal, and now we're talking about Eric Trump trying to go into DC to turn on him in the middle of the fight, and then they made the boss call, and now all of a sudden, DC acts like he got hacked, even though Twitter gave him his account back in five minutes. Okay, that's absolute nonsense, we all know that. So it's just, it's a sad state of affairs for sure. But, I mean, as far as Charlie goes, you know, ask away. I've been working↗

1:04:38@anaescobarshowand I definitely have my thoughts, but I have my own working theory, but, we don't-- we're not there yet, and, w-we're still drawn, we're not going to give up on it until something happens about it.↗

1:04:51Ian MalcolmNo, and I, I, I love that, and, and, and especially because I feel like when it comes to the what happened, I'm gonna be very curious for your thoughts on, on maybe how this all played out, right? We, we heard a couple different theories earlier with the lapel, Tyler Robinson, et cetera. I, I, I'm kind of curious Not to say that it was X, Y, or Z, because, like you said, there's a lot of variables. But, but if you were to kind of synthesize down and say, "I think the two most probable causes would have been this, that, or the other thing," what, what do you think are the three that are perhaps most reasonable? And is there anything from the, potential category that you would just throw out at large because you think it's either ridiculous or, or there's, you know, a big gap in whatever that situation might be?↗

1:05:37@anaescobarshowWell, I would↗

1:05:41@anaescobarshowPersonally, Christopher and I were talking about a little bit that, you know, the, the exploding mic, the road mic theory is one that's really compelling, especially in the way that they have, managed the situation following it, and the amount of panic. I do think that when we're thinking about who it was that actually did this, we have to really split up that information into the planning phase, the operational phase, and then the cleanup phase, and it's only right now that we're in the cleanup phase that- We're actually, you know, continuing to see the way that they behave and they kind of give us clues as it goes, you know, with all of their panic that they've had. But, you know, if we're thinking that we're just gonna say, "Well, it's Israel," somebody said that earlier, and I thought that was a really good point, to just say it's Israel and to just jump to that, or to just say it's Rick Cutler and to just jump to that, neither of those is going to be the answer, right? Because in the It wasn't like, if we're not gonna see footage of Pete Hegseth running across the top of the LSC center, but this very clearly was a coordination between our own government, unfortunately, or factions within it, and then also a foreign government. And when we're talking about Israel, that's not just one person. There's, that entire country is just a tax shelter full of, like, it's like, I call it Sodom and Gomorrah. There's two different sides to it, right? And so when we're thinking about the ways that it, you know, may Think about the people that that actually means, 'cause these people have names. They're hi- they're villains, right? But they're hiding in plain sight. They are around us, unfortunately, even to this day. They're influential. And I think there's a really compelling argument that it's possible that the Adelsons-- I'm like, I don't even wanna say their name, but, you know, it's very possible that the Adelsons may have played a role in that, not only due to the fact that they were the largest single donor to a political campaign of all time with↗

1:07:40@anaescobarshowWho is the supposed best friend, but producer of Charlie Kirk. So, yeah, it's a lot, it's a tangled web.↗

1:07:48Ian MalcolmWell, and, and on that, do you, do you wanna kind of unpack that? I've, I've certainly seen, some of the content that you've put out, documenting that, right? But the, the Andrew Colvet piece, the ties with him and, obviously Erica Kirk, their backstory that's certainly a little unusual, right? And then, like you're saying, some of those financial entanglements, I feel like In this room, as informed as many might be, that might be completely novel. So I, I'd be curious if you could unpack that a little bit.↗

1:08:16@anaescobarshowYeah, absolutely. So Andrew Collette, he is the producer. He's been around since, I think, about twenty nineteen around the TPU SA orbit. prior to that, he was working with a man named Johnny Moore, and Johnny Moore is a really key character, in my opinion, into this entire story. So Johnny Moore, huge Zionist, quote unquote, rap- Friend, but he is the guy who's actually responsible for Track Two diplomacy in the Abraham Accords. And what Track Two diplomacy is, is it's just them doing shady backhanded deals, right? The Abraham Accords is something that Jared Kushner actually put into place in twenty twenty, right toward-- I mean, he started working on in twenty seventeen, but he got it into place as this ability to normalize relations between Israel and its neighboring countries. And so basically, it's giving them Over to Zionist interests too, right? So Johnny Moore has been a key character in this since long before Andrew Colvet even entered Turning Point USA, well, he was his protege, Andrew Colvet was Johnny Moore's protege, and they both worked together for the Adelsons. These are the richest people in Israel, these are powerful people, they're casino owners, they are absolutely demonic, just so you're aware, but they have had a hand in really shaping This Abraham Accords process, that's something that they developed with Boston Consulting Group, which is quite literally where Benjamin Netanyahu comes from. And so, when Andrew Culvett decided to kind of strike out on his own, he was placed into Turning Point USA, or so it would appear. There's compelling evidence to suggest that he was placed into Turning Point, and Charlie had some made-up emergency, some girl- Supposedly had some racist text messages or some, some nonsense. And I guess the only guy who could get him out of it in that time was Andrew Moore, who was there, or excuse me, Johnny Moore connected him with Andrew Colvet, who was there right at the right place at the right time, and that's how they infiltrated it. And, you know, as far as what I've heard from folks who worked at Turning Point, who worked with him up until a few weeks until he, you know, before he passed,↗

1:10:29@anaescobarshowHe really came in and wanted to be the one who was in charge, and once he did that, then it's been all, you know, heading in that Zionist direction since then. I mean, if you guys remember Charlie Kirk actually started Turning Point to be a, like, a free speech and, like, you know, a free market platform, but then all of a sudden it turned into this Turning Point Faith, and they wanted to start to execute the Zionist agenda, and that was really a lot of,↗

1:10:57@anaescobarshowwhat, what's happening there was being driven by Andrew Cullat. So these guys are really just puppets of the Edelsons, you know? And that's, I mean, for me anyway, that feels like it makes the most sense these are the big money people that are kind of, you know, moving in the background that, again, people don't talk about enough, but we should be thinking about 'cause they're quite literally↗

1:11:18@anaescobarshowthe ones who, you know, got Donald Trump into office this time, and they want to get their money's worth. So, they made a point to, you know, insert themselves early, and it's gotten worse. My impression was that once Charlie decided that he was going to, you know, draw a line somewhere, then they decided that they didn't- He wasn't, wasn't a good ROI anymore, and so they decided that he wasn't going to be a worthwhile endeavor, and that's my impression for kind of the background of why they would want him gone.↗

1:11:50Ian MalcolmReal, real, stated. And, and kind of the, the, the additional data there around COVID, I, I find fascinating. I'm, I'm, I'm curious just to get the pulse check on, on the first portion shared there. Adam or, or, or Mr. Nechay, I'm kind of curious, if you two were familiar with those pieces of the puzzle and if you got any questions or thoughts on that before we kind of proceed into the next little piece, in, in terms of the how this might have gone down.↗

1:12:18Speaker 4I, I, I was, quite deep in the, Charlie Kirk stuff for the s-- first half of the, of the story, you know, right, right after his assassination and the first few months and all that stuff. So, so I, I can add on, on that stuff, but I think Anna really summed it up quite well. You know, I, I, I do have a question, which is, is Robert Shulman back? Is he still fun-- is he back to funding them now? 'Cause he was one of the, Zionist billionaires that, you know, lost their shit at Charlie Kirk and, and refused to fund them because of his quote unquote, antisemitism. it'll be interesting to see if he's, back to funding them. You know, there are, there are loads and loads and loads of,↗

1:12:59Speaker 4different connections to Israel. There are loads of, connections to Israel and, and the assassination of Charlie Kirk, I did, I did write up. all of them or as much of them as I could, and I was like dozens and dozens, I, I hit the maximum limit that you can put into a tweet, like a extended tweet, three times, a-a-and I read 'cause there's that many connections to, to Israel,↗

1:13:26Speaker 4and the assassination of Charlie Kirk. you know, 'cause he was getting threats, he was getting intimidation, he was losing funding, you know, people staging interventions for him, he, he had a Zionist Israeli rabbi pressure group that would coach him on talking points and, or on video saying that, you know, the Jewish community was mad at Charlie Kirk, that he was, Charlie Kirk was resisting their talking points, that he was, you know, regurgitating↗

1:13:58Speaker 4the garbage that they would tell him, their talking points, and he was, you know, basically being coached and trained in what to say when it came to Israel and Zionism, and this is, you know, someone from that coaching group, revealing this. you know, so this, this, this is why, you know, people come and say, "Oh, Charlie Cook was a, was a good guy," like he, you know, he was, you know, he was a, was a number one fan, and it's, and it's like, well, if you look, if you do the research and you find all these things, like this isn't incongruent with the story, you wouldn't expect this, this would be very surprising. And then you find things like he's, you know, he's, he's throwing shade and conspirac-conspiracizing about October 7th. I mean, he's right, it's right to conspiracize about it, but, you know, he's, for his audience, it would be co-classed as conspiracizing, you know, he was, poking holes and, you know, disagreeing with the narrative of October 7th, saying it was an inside job,↗

1:14:49Speaker 4you know, he was, and when he died, after he died, like, you You know, that's how they, they respected his, his, his memory, like he served them, he sold his soul to them, in my opinion. You know, and he was for most part, you know, serving, serving their agenda, but it wasn't good enough. And there were, you know, there were holes, holes, and he was starting to push back on APAC before he died, not long, not lo- not long before he died. You know, he, he had this, youth conservative outreach project, and I remember watching it, and,↗

1:15:26Speaker 4I was, I was shocked. I was like, "What's going on here? I feel like this is some kind of five-D chess or something." And, you know, he was talking to young conservatives, and they were examining Israel's relationship with America, if it was parasitic in nature, and if APAC should be, you know- Disbanded or, or, or not supported. And, you know, this line of rhetoric is, is extreme, to say the least. And then you have all the stuff that Candace Owens released in terms of their chats and stuff and how, you know, Ben Shapiro, you know, he hated Ben Shapiro and Ben Shapiro hated him and Ben Shapiro was trying to, trying to destroy him. And then, but Ben, Ben Shapiro is one of the people who took over almost immediately his podcast, you know, with those other people and said he was gonna pick up the bloody mic. You know, and don- donated a million dollars to become like a power broker of the, of the podcast, of the new company. and then you have, you know, Erica Kirk's, you know, Miriam, I won't go over that, everyone knows it now, it's been done to death, but her Miriam's connections, dubious, you know, background,↗

1:16:28Speaker 4her dubious background, you know, the fact that she first laid eyes on Charlie in Israel By her own admission, and the fact that she has all the opinions that Charlie Cook didn't have that are kosher, for lack of a better word, such as, you know, supporting the Iran War, you know, and being full-throated in terms of, you know, supporting Israel and Iraq and, and all these things, and how she's, you know, the worst thing in the world to her, you know, she sh- she had more visible,↗

1:16:56Speaker 4She was more visibly upset about, you know, antisemitism than her, her husband being, assassinated, in, in, you know, in the media in terms of, you know, what she's been complaining about afterwards. but in, in TPSA overall, you know, have been, you know, supporting the war in Iran, and as most people now know, Charlie Kirk was against the war in Iran, he had, heated argument with Trump over it,↗

1:17:21Speaker 4and he received, you know, he was yelled at by Trump, he was, He'll die by multiple people. He was threatened over it, and, you know, he had this poll that went viral, had millions and millions of views and hundreds of thousands of votes, and like, you know, should we be at war with Iran, expecting people to say no. So he was, he was campaigning against it, but personally and privately, and also publicly.↗

1:17:45Speaker 4But that's, you know, have you seen TPA-USA come out against Iran War? No, you haven't. No, you haven't. you know, but I think it was mainly the, the youth stuff, like he was, you know, the, the conservatives, the conservative element of America is the last bastion of Israeli support, full stop. Not just America, but full stop, 'cause America is the last bastion of, of, American support. America's the most important country to, to Is-Israel, as JD Vance said today, its whole existence depends on,↗

1:18:17Speaker 4its whole existence depends on America. Without America, Israel's fucked. Basically, they're on their own, as JD Vance rightly, rightly pointed out today, with an incredible turn of, rhetoric from him, but any, that's a different topic. But, Charlie Kirk coming out, you know, as an anti, not anti-Zionist, but- Coming in and, you know, saying that this relationship is parasitic or AIPAC needs to go and stuff, and, you know, stuff like that, because the young conservatives are becoming more anti-Zionist, you know, this is, this is a fact, and Charlie Kirk looked like he wasn't going to convert them, he was going to be con-converted by them, and I believe that was an existential threat to the existence of Israel. And so, and so you had to go. And so, and but there's so much more, like I said, I maxed out the, the word limit on three different,↗

1:19:08Speaker 4posts, because there's that many connections to it. So there's, there's, there's so much there. And then that, the, you know, I stopped paying attention, you know, a few months ago, so there's probably so much more, like, and I, and I covered just now. But yeah, so it's, it's an interesting, And as you see with TPSA admitting that they, you know, covered up sunfings or fake sunfings, and also the narrative, 'cause, you know, right, right after Charlie died,↗

1:19:39Speaker 4there was like an autopsy or those, Some private viewing of, of the body, and, and I think was Colbert, who, who posted an original tweet, about viewing Trump's body, what the doctors told him about the assassination, then he deleted it, and, because people thought it was bullshit, and he changed the sto- and he changed the story, and put out a second one, and that's where we got the, you know, "Man of Steel,"↗

1:20:07Speaker 4his, His, his neck defecting a thirty-eight six, bullet narrative, you know, so that, so that, there is a lot, there is a lot there, so I'm glad I know you've been covering, covering all that and keeping on top of that 'cause it is, it is a developing story and TPSA keeps revealing, you know, what, what side they're, their bread is buttered and,↗

1:20:28Speaker 4Proving, in my opinion, why, you know, Israel's responsible or, you know, the Epstein class is responsible, 'cause, you know, the Epstein class, you know, their interests are aligned with, with Israel, with Zionism, you know, it, it enriches them, or at least has up until now, I feel, I feel like maybe Israel isn't as profitable anymore, which could explain why everyone's turning on them. But, but I'll, I'll just drop it there. Thanks, you know, and everyone.↗

1:20:52Ian MalcolmAnd no, much appreciated there, Adam. And, with that being said, let's go back to, to Anna and, and kind of to this next piece of the puzzle. So you talked a little bit about the dynamics with these relationships prior, the, the day of, right? The, the perspective device that was used. Anna, one of the questions that I have for you is the let's say the, the role that, that, you know, the prospective shooter, played in all of this, is this the-- This is the Patsy, right? This is, Lee Harvey Oswald. He's, he's just the Patsy and a fall guy, right? what are your thoughts on what led up to the day of this? And what I mean is, if, if in fact he did or didn't shoot a round, if he did or didn't shoot the round, was it↗

1:21:41Ian MalcolmInvolved in, in the death of Kirk in your assertion, and kind of either way, if he didn't fire anything, was he merely there because somebody instructed him to be, or was he playing a part? Or how, how do you think that all came together?↗

1:21:54@anaescobarshowWell, I mean, you know, this is just my opinion, but the first thing I always think about with the patsies is he wasn't the only patsy that was there that day. I kind of got memory hold for a lot of people, but there was- Also, George Zan, that was there that day, that's an older gentleman, he was in the crowd. He, at the time of the shot, he dropped his pants and started saying, "Get me, get me, I did it, I'm the one who shot him." He got arrested. he was brought to the hospital, where he told the nurses on staff there that he had been paid to cause a scene so that the real killer could get away. And then somehow they went and found some images, some, you know, images on his Phone, and no one's ever heard him again. But on that day when that happened, people were very, very, you know, dialed in to him. And a lot of the reason is because there's a lot of footage out there of George Zinn himself, because he's also somebody who made a whole point to insert himself into a number of other false flags. I can't remember what, I believe it was a school shooting, if I'm not mistaken. He also, you know, has lots of footage of him discussing his experience around nine eleven. Super Zionist, of course, and, he's been around the conversation for many years. So it was very interesting to me to think about the fact that there was more than one Patsy in, in, you know, at Provo that day. And when we're thinking about what that means, you know, if Tyler Robinson was the only-- if he was the Harvey Oswald, the, you know, the one and only, right? That's one conversation, but this is more than one, and he bears no resemblance to Tyler Robinson, so he certainly wasn't, you know- You know, being a Patsy for Tyler Robinson. My impression of Tyler Robinson is probably along the lines of the same, White House, the Correspondents' Dinner shooter, somebody who is motivated by, you know, ideology, possibly some sort of Some sort of convincing, I don't wanna say MK Ultra, who knows? The kid seems like he's got problems, right? or they are assuming now that Lance Twigs, his boyfriend, this trans furry guy,↗

1:24:07@anaescobarshowthat he might be the next person for people to look at because this is his lifelong lover or whatever, and he may or may not have had some sort of, you know, influence over him, and he may have actually been present there that day. So when it comes to Tyler Robinson, I just think, okay Okay, that's clearly Patsy one, but Patsy two is the one that always interests me. when I think about George Zinn, I wonder very much about the fact that who was he there to let get away, right? There is a gentleman also in the crowd that they identified, and I wish Sam were-- Oh, I wish Sam was here so bad, because, you know, he's one of the folks that talked about it. But there's a man that George Zinn is actually dressed exactly like. He's very unusual looking.↗

1:24:49@anaescobarshowhe, you know, down Right? They look very much similar. The man shows up late to the event, he stands with the sunglasses on, with a, with young people around him that people think look like they could be some sort of security personnel. That's nothing confirmed, but, and then he shows up right at the last minute, comes, stands, watches the event happen, and then he gets out of there and is never heard from again. There have been a lot of people that have talked about the fact that this guy, this GQ, George Zin, he looks like a much wealthier version Version of George Zen,↗

1:25:25@anaescobarshowthat, you know, is that the person that he was being a patsy for? Tyler Robinson himself, I think he did go to Dairy Queen. Somebody mentioned that earlier. He went Dairy Queen after, he kinda hung around the scene, he was supposed to, in my opinion, probably go And kill himself or have some sort of confrontation with the police, but the expectation was that that guy wasn't gonna survive, and so unfortunately, when he did, and his family convinced him to turn himself in, that's kind of, that's like the third, you know, monkey wrench that they threw into the situation, but no one was expecting it. As far as the round that was, you know, removed from, or the piece of the round that was removed from his body, you know, the thing is, once he got into that SUV, there's no telling what happened to Right? There's really no way to ascertain what those results of an autopsy were going to show. We should keep in mind also that the, person who performed the autopsy is also a Zionist, was also placed, into their role like on the recent end of things. So when we're talking about the actual scale of potential people that were involved with the actual operational phase It's, it's a lot. It's, it's, you know, twenty people that may or may not have actually played a part in this, whether they were willing to, whether they were, you know, willing or unwilling, that the jury's still out on that. But it's certainly bigger than a guy on a roof, and, you know, that much we definitely know. As far as the,↗

1:26:55@anaescobarshowentire operational phase, you know, Joe Kent did mention that there were twelve, Israeli cell phones, I believe, picked up in the area, that that was one of the That he was hoping that he would have been able to tie up before the FBI told him that he was no longer allowed to investigate the issue. He was the director of what was it, of counter intel, right? So surprising that the FBI decided to come and put their foot down about preventing the, investigation from going past What Tyler Robinson ate for breakfast, but that's what they chose to do. And unfortunately, it's just one of those, one of those loose ends that people have to continue to work on, you know?↗

1:27:35Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely, and, and, and wonderfully, reported therein. And I, I couldn't agree with you more on, on looking at some of those unusual players. Was there ever an explanation as to George Zinn saying, "I was there to create a distraction, so I pulled my pants down and did all this stuff"? I feel like that shouldn't just be, you know, washed aside like, "Oh, yeah, whatever, we just, we, we forgot that in the winds of time, right?" Like, no explanation was ever given for why an older gentleman would do that.↗

1:28:04@anaescobarshowNo, yep, this, this 9/11, you know, on the ground person, who just happened to also be at a school shooting and happened to also be there and happened to report that to the nurses, they found child images on his phone, and he was never heard from again. So, you know, who knows? And we don't know who the real bad guy that, you know, he was supposed to let get away. The images that came out from, I think it's Jesse McClintock, Jesse McClintock Wilson. If I'm not mistaken, please someone correct me if I'm wrong about that name, but he is a photographer. He did really high quality HD images, at the scene on that day, and he has a ton of images from the crowd. That's where you can see both George Zinn and GQ George Zinn. you can see a ton of these characters that, you know, we have come to identify, Rick Cutler, et cetera, the entire security team. and it's really good information. Something else that's important to think about is that if you↗

1:29:04@anaescobarshowfrom that gentleman, what is his name? Life driving. His name, life is driving. it's the Bartholomew, Adam Bartholomew. Adam Bartholomew is the guy who has provided really most of the footage. The reason he's the person who has that actual video footage and the only person who seems to have quality video footage is because there actually was interference that was happening at the event. I don't know if there was maybe mobile cell phone jammers, I don't know if maybe there was, you know, something happening that's been kind of Conversation about some of the planes and the technology that was there, we can get into it if you guys ever want to. but no one was able to capture high quality images and high quality, video. But luckily, this guy, Falemou, he had like a wired-in, recorder and he had attached it to his iPad. I mean, it was a whole thing. He went on Baron Coleman right in the beginning, and Baron interviewed him for a while, and so that's why I guess he's the only person who had that footage. But what that means is that all Footage was, you know, not able to be kept and is of no quality. So it's just another piece of the puzzle.↗

1:30:11Ian MalcolmWhich is this-- Can you describe that? You're, you're basically saying that all of the other footage from that day has essentially been either destroyed or is so grainy that it's, it's worthless? Is that because there was-- Was, was there a policy at the event that you couldn't have that, or, or was there some kind of jamming that was done? I, I'm, I'm confused.↗

1:30:31@anaescobarshowYeah, that's the speculation is that it Jamming, that was being done at the time. And, you know, I mean, there is potato footage, like there's footage that was filmed on a potato, right? There's, you know, this and that, but as far as actual high quality footage, there hasn't been any that anyone has been able to provide, because of the fact that there were cell phone jammers that may have been active at the time. So they have a lot of technology out right now that, they- Already were using at the time of his memorial, and that was really to like mostly scoop up people's data. You guys know that they geo-vent his entire memorial, all two hundred thousand people or whatever the case was, but they also did like a lot of jamming, so that's why there's not great footage from the citizens that were there at either↗

1:31:21@anaescobarshowSeptember 10th or at the memorial.↗

1:31:24Speaker 4There was a camera behind Charlie Kirk, and the first thing they did TPSA was literally go take it down. There's footage of, a TPSA member immediately going to the camera and taking it away. we've never, we've never seen that footage. We, we've never seen footage of, you know, from Charlie's point of view, from his, like, from his eyes, like, from, from behind his, you know, in front of what he saw in front of him, you know, 'cause,↗

1:31:49Speaker 4Yeah, it's odd that we haven't seen that actually. but, but I just wanted to mention one quick thing, which is, Charlie mentioned that he had Israeli security to Bill Maher. Bill Maher edited it out, it out, but you can find the video, it's on, a lot of people posted it. yeah, he mentioned that. That's it, I say, sorry, Anna, over to you.↗

1:32:08@anaescobarshowNo, you're all good. Yeah, I was gonna say, I don't know if, I don't know if anybody. I know that when, what's his name, Harpole, when he went on Sean Ryan, right? When he went on Sean Ryan, he was talking about the fact that, you know, every person on his security team is American. Okay. I mean, you know, alright. But as far as the Israeli security, I don't know if that's folks that were protecting Charlie in the past or if he was talking about at that event that day,↗

1:32:38@anaescobarshowthey were, you know, quote unquote American. Who knows who's paying them? Who knows what level of involvement they might have had? Remember the Zionists, that's Jews, and it's Christians too. So, you know, put, I put, I group them all together, sorry, but, it's all Zionist. And so I, you know, just because someone's American doesn't necessarily mean that they are someone who is on the good side of things. as far as, oh, sorry. Oh, yeah, Terrell Farnsworth, yes, the↗

1:33:08@anaescobarshowHe did remember Adam. He did take a second to run over to the SUV and then he did that selfie video where he was like, "Oh, Charlie, he's gone, he's dead," you, you know. He did that first, so give him credit, right? He had to go and jump on and be dramatic, and then he goes right over and, at the direction of, I believe it was Andrew Colbeck, if I'm not mistaken, went and removed that footage, removed the camera, took it down. And as far as I know, he has↗

1:33:38@anaescobarshowpieces of it, but another gal who's looking at things, she actually identified that that image, or, or the footage that she was shown, the, from Candace, that it had actually been cropped significantly, or that it looked very different at the very least, to how the footage usually appears. So they're not showing us everything, they're, they're barely showing us anything. There were ten thousand cameras, all high quality cameras, pointing directly at Charlie, from, you know, from in front of him, from behind him, every- Single angle should be covered in HD. It was supposedly, if you guys remember, allegedly they were live streaming the event. Where was it being live streamed to? No one's ever seen where they were live streaming to. That's why he had to have his microphone, that second microphone, the Rode microphone, the one that may or may not have contained this explosive material, right? So allegedly that was all going to a live stream, and no one can say-- no one's actually seen that footage, and no one can even say It went to, everyone searched on the, you know, Turning Point, different Charlie Kirk show. It wasn't live streaming anywhere, so that's absolute BS, and, that's just more BS from Turning Point. We can talk about that too, but, you know.↗

1:34:48Ian MalcolmWait, so I'm, I'm, I'm, out of curiosity, so the, the live stream, supposedly that footage was being shared with somebody, that never was shared with anyone, and not only was that footage removed, but so too was essentially the, the architecture of The very incident, or, or place where this all took place, right? The, the, in the, in the weeks or days that followed, they, they just basically dismantled everything. Am, am, am I mistaken or was there some other explanation given for that?↗

1:35:15@anaescobarshowWell, they had a paver emergency, Ian. It was a paver emergency. Okay, they called the man on a Sunday night, and they said, "Hey, we're not gonna pay you anything, but the feds want us to have you pave over this crime scene immediately, right away." And so the guy actually who did the paving, he went on an interview recently, and he was talking all about the fact that, yeah, he didn't, he refused any money for it. He grabbed his brother's because, again, it was a Sunday, he wasn't normally Did such a terrible job of it. But the reality, my opinion anyway, is that they knew that there was going to be explosive residue or whatever the case may be, that was going to be present in the soil. That's a lot of the reason they didn't bring any of the dogs,↗

1:35:58@anaescobarshowdown to that area, even though, you know, it was an active crime scene. But no, they didn't, they didn't bring the dogs down there when they actually brought them out. they just paved over the entire thing, replaced it, and we're supposed to just believe↗

1:36:16@anaescobarshowTyler↗

1:36:17Ian MalcolmRobinson, right? No, that's so wild. And, and in the aftermath, I mean, there's so many angles of this. I'm kind of curious, Anna, before we go to the aftermath and what's taking place with Turning Point USA, and we've gotta unpack that and the funding and Salem Media and all these other things, but I'm kind of curious, are there elements of this story that you feel perhaps in the event that this was, orchestrated, it was plotted, do you think there are elements of it that are more or less red herrings aside from- From George Zinn, were there other aspects that were kind of thrown out? And I say it 'cause there was, there's so many different talking points about this. I, I, I wouldn't be surprised, for example, if there was somebody that said, "Oh, it was the Sasquatch that got Charlie Kirk," right? I, there, there were like a thousand different, explanations that were offered. Do you think any of those were intentional misdirections, perhaps, by the people actually behind this?↗

1:37:07@anaescobarshowWell, you know, actually- As far as the methodology, I, I don't know. I, I mean, I think that people are well-meaning when it comes to their, their, their own opinion of what actually happened, the actual methodology, right? Like the palm pistol, I can understand why people have that theory, the shot from behind, I can totally understand why people have that theory. I will say that there have been some questions about some of the folks, that were initially kind of looking at things if maybe they were intentionally trying to maybe drive the conversation in one, one way or another, but- You know, I don't, I don't worry too much about all that. I, I trust what my eyes tell me, right? so whether someone thinks it was a drone taking the shot or the shot coming from behind or the back of the trunk, all of those, those theories are actually pretty Reasonable. You can understand why at least people are having this idea. The only thing that doesn't make sense is the idea that it's this, you know, trans kid on the top of the roof with his granddaddy's thirty odd six. That's the one that's the red herring initially. But I would say that what I think personally is that some of what the red herring is right now is the fact that we're being pushed into believing that it was just Erica Kirk or just Turning Point who's responsible for this. I mean, clearly there's an involvement there. We know that. And I'm not saying, so Candice has focused on Erica, understandably, she knows more than anybody about the situation, about their relationship, like she's very dialed in. But I do think that Erica's somebody that they would be okay with pinning it all on, and I think that they would have been happy if we had just gone to the widow and just stayed focused there. It's only been when people have started to explore those other actors, that's when they start freaking out. So the minute that you started, you know, anyone started talking about Forwa Chuka- They flipped out the minute that anyone started talking about the exploding mic. They flipped out, and those are kind of the things that are leading people to thinking, "Hey, maybe this is actually where it is, because this is what's getting that reaction." I do think personally they would be fine with scapegoating all Of this on some harebrained scheme that Erica and the security guys at Turning Point came up with. If they could keep it there, they would. So I'm not saying she's not involved, I think that she probably is, but I don't think that it's just that little team on their own.↗

1:39:24Ian MalcolmNo, that, that makes a ton of sense. And I'm, I'm curious, so much you've, unpacked there, and I, I, I know we've got some, wonderful individuals up here, I'd be curious, Mr. Niche or, or Rob, if you guys wanna hop in, ask any questions or ask for any clarification or provide kind of your takes on anything that was covered.↗

1:39:40Speaker 6I find it absolutely amazing that The upward movement of Jewish supremacism began with the assassination of JFK, and we have strong reason to believe that they assassinated JFK, and that is the very moment where they invented, coined the term conspiracy theory. They did it right there, it was an immediate concomitant to that assassination, and then we've had all of this immiseration by Jewish supremacists, and now this is an uncanny parallel to that assassination. They were both in broad daylight They were both seemingly as if meant to really make an exhibition of it, instead of doing it quietly or versus with a pager or the way they openly brag, as Tucker Carlson points out, about being an assassination, their methodology so much relying on assassination. And I think it's also reasonable to say, yes, they did this without having to know in particular by what method. It's, it's, it's interesting because if you think of it as, well, when a husband, threatens to take his wife out, and she reports that to the police, then she's the, he's the main suspect when she's gone. This is of course natural And we see pattern recognition in crime, in, in criminology all the time this way. This is how they catch, serial killers. One was just sentenced in the past couple of days to a life sentence, and of course they started to feel-- realize that he was the common denominator between all of the instances of these women disappearing in Long Island. And of course, what is the common denominator here? Well, now the common denominator is obviously Israel and Jewish supremacists. Now, the reason why that I think it's reasonable to conclude for us to say out loud and proud, "Yeah, Jewish supremacists, Israel did this," is because they themselves are admitting it by their criminal behavior afterwards. When Tom Alexandrovich ran away to Israel after being charged with pedophilia or inveigling children to have sex with him, well, of course, that's an admission of guilt. This is the way legality works. We all- Always consider that. When OJ ran away, well, yeah, he did it. Okay, he's guilty, and irrespective of how it worked out in, in the courts. So just imagine if the Alexanderviches or, or the Ted Bundy's of the world, imagine if they had a giant media apparatus telling you, "Don't believe your eyes, don't make this connection, look somewhere else, look at this ridiculous, you know, Kabuki theater that we've built for you," when it's kind of like obvious when you make the connection. Okay, the bodies continually↗

1:42:18Speaker 6And there's this one common denominator, and that common denominator is able to pay off everybody and absolutely demand that no one investigate them. Hey, don't investigate me, don't do any kind of investigation. It kinda gives it away, doesn't it? I mean, there's a point at which we all just must say, "Well, clearly it's you," right? So, what do you think about that, my friend?↗

1:42:44@anaescobarshowYeah, I think you're exactly right. I was gonna mention the fact that, you know, it's always a tell, right? When they, when they make a point to coin a phrase just with the express intent of pushing everyone's conversation in one direction, right? The minute that people were starting to look at JFK, the Sapir-Dorfman comes out, and people start to have very reasonable conversations, and now all of a sudden it's a conspiracy. Well, last time I checked, a conspiracy- Is quite literally something that has been in place in every single society since the beginning of time, but now all of a sudden, everybody is insane for asking these questions. And that's just a tool of manipulation, in my opinion. It's just a way for them to shut down these conversations. It's, it's always a tell though, that they want to try to marginalize people. And realistically, I mean, in my opinion, Charlie Kirk's assassination is For me, the most important political event of our lifetime, right? I mean, this was something that was done in an explicitly terroristic way. They could-- You're exactly right. They could have taken him out, you know, in the car. They could have had him have, you know, some mugging gone wrong or whatever the case may be. No, they chose to do it in this way as an act of- Terror. It was exp- to try to terrorize the American people. We all saw it happen in 4K. Then they wanted to blame it on some leftist, so it was going to divide everyone. And- So, Eminem, this is an act of terror, and it's an act of terror on, on American soil, toward an American for exercising his free speech. I mean, it's clear as day that this was something that they wanted to send a message, and I think that that message was supposed to, to all of us, yes, but it was also supposed to be to folks like, you know, Tucker Carlson or folks like Donald Trump to let them know that they can get you no matter what. It's, it's disgusting, and that's why I think it's so important. I think The same story. JFK, RFK, the Iran War, Charlie Kirk. This is all the same story. 9/11. Well, yeah, that's my opinion. Yes, absolutely. Well, the dancing Israelis.↗

1:44:53Speaker 6Yeah. And you know, Adam touched on, well, what you're saying and what I'm saying a little earlier. Charlie Kirk was the second most important person to Israel in the world. Because those young conservative men were their last hold on any kind of support for their genocide, for their pedophilia, for everything they do, and all of a sudden↗

1:45:19Speaker 6All of a sudden, Charlie Kirk starts committing heresy, and don't forget, with Jewish supremacists, heretical thinking is aptly anathema. You have to be all in for them, and for him to say that October seventh, no, that narrative didn't add up. He's saying, "This is-- there's some BS here. You can't say that, that's heresy." And the second really big one, really big one, was that Epstein was working with the Mossad. He said that. And for him to say those two things, if you say that to his demonist wife, she will accuse you of being an antisemite. Think about it. She will accuse you of being from the bowels of hell if you just repeat what her so-called husband said, because what you're really saying is that there is a class of Jewish supremacists in the world Absolutely getting the goods on American politicians and American elite in order to garner their support with the sexual assault of children to bomb other children in Gaza. That is as evil as it gets, and you know that Israel cannot allow the most important, the second most important behind Donald Trump, important person to the support of Israel in America to allow his supporters to, or at least to Incite them to walk away from them by talking to the likes of, of Tucker Carlson and Dave Smith. What do you think about that?↗

1:46:46@anaescobarshowI couldn't agree more. I mean, these Jewish supremacists, they're out of control. I don't know exactly, I mean, my personal theory is that it's been bad from the start. Like, you know, we can run it back to the Nakh, but we can run it back to the Bolsheviks, you know what I'm saying? But But realistically, they've gotten out of control, and they are a rabid dog. Ultimately, it's our fault for letting them run around and terrorize the neighborhood. But at the same time, they are so far gone that, you know, that's why I was really glad to hear that gentleman who spoke earlier about the fact that they were trying to do, you know, this boomers and zoomers. I really appreciate that, because we're gonna need to figure out what we do for this country, but we're also gonna need to figure out what we do about this problem, and it's gonna Same page, you know? So this is a, this is a very serious issue. I think that the biggest thing is that now that we can all see it and everybody's getting on the same page↗

1:47:43@anaescobarshowThis isn't some fringe theory anymore, then these conversations, that's why they're so important. And that's what they, that's what they were trying to stop, I guess. You know, that's why Charlie had to go, even though he was their biggest and best supporter. Erica Kirk, I, I can't even talk about her, I get too angry just thinking about her. But she's ultimately a tool of the Zionists, right? So just lump her in with the rest of them.↗

1:48:09Speaker 1Hey, can I jump in?↗

1:48:14Speaker 1real quick, let's, let's take a moment here on the day of activities, and, we'll go through a couple hands real quick, and then we'll, we'll get back to Anna for her thoughts on, on the turning point, USA, and the aftermath of everything that's occurred after Char- Charlie Kirk's death. We have these patient hands, we have Checo next in line, Checo, you wanna give us your thoughts?↗

1:48:39Speaker 1Thank you so much for your patience, by the way, Chico.↗

1:48:42Speaker 3Yeah, I'm trying to remember what I was gonna say. It was important too. It was something about, okay, so the arranged marriage stuff, this, this turning point thing is international. Like, this is a, a lobby. They have conquered our GOP pretty much. So they aren't conservative voters. These people aren't Christians anymore. They have tried to morph the party. And TPUSA was working with a,↗

1:49:07Speaker 3high school Agreement, it's a, was it Project America or something it's called? Come on, you guys know↗

1:49:14@anaescobarshowClub America,↗

1:49:15Speaker 3Club America. Yeah, Club America. So what's cool is they-- we already know a false flag is coming and they're gonna keep assassinating our leaders and staging these events, but what's cool is they spent all this money, even though it's our taxpayer money and our donation money, on this, high school tour, but they just have these new contracts that came out in twenty twenty-five, right while this, right before this was all happening. Happening. So now that the ownership has changed hands, and now that they've plagiarized it into this fake Zionist, you know, shill market, oh, the kids have gotta understand that there's nothing Christian about this whatsoever, and the people like Hillary and Trump both agree that they needed TPUSA bad, bro. And, you know, Erica will dance for shekels in a heartbeat, you already know that, that's what she-- her job is, that's what she's there for. They put her and TPUSA together, and Charlie Kirk took it to To new heights, they didn't think it was gonna be as successful as it was with the con-- with the conservative Christian voters and the, in the youth. But yeah, man, they would literally kill for that shit. I mean, they will eat their own if they have to. You guys have already cracked it, they can blame-- You'll see all these MAGA shills, like the Dilly two thousand shills and, and, you know, Jack Posobiec talking about how it's, some conspiracy or whatever. But we already know it, Candace already knows,↗

1:50:37Speaker 3Resolve this. What we need to do is we need to use the youth mind and the discernment to let them shoot themselves in the foot again, 'cause they're going to keep just saying some stupid shit and, you know, despite their knows, it's gonna be, you know, that's just, that's a repeating cycle. Like they, they don't know how-- They're spurgin' out right now. They don't know how to conduct themselves, they don't know how to think before they say things. They just go out and blurt some stupid shit, get caught lying,↗

1:51:02Speaker 3and On this, treadmill. And if we're gonna see some more staged events, we might even see some big ones, bigger than nine eleven. But that's okay, like this shit is worth dying for, you guys. You understand what they're at right now? They're cornered rats. Europe is going to fall. If, if the Zionist lobby falls, all the countries in Europe are gonna fall, because they're the only ones that are passing the shell game, and China is done playing. You see what I'm saying?↗

1:51:27Speaker 1Yeah, I agree. And, and it's a good point that Charlie Kirk said this or admitted this, where they were on, it was supposed to be like a business meeting and they were out to dinner, and Erica Kirk said, "You're not gonna be my boss, you're gonna be my husband." And that's just a very, like, if you have a submissive woman or if you have a woman that really cares about the, this leadership position that Charlie Kirk has, then she's more focused on helping him, helping him and- being his sidekick and, and, and, you know, flirting and essentially working her way to where he offers that. The fact that she came off so dominating, I mean, it's just honey pot is the word that comes to mind, you know, any time of day with that.↗

1:52:18@joann_marieAnd Kristen and I also met in Israel for the first time. Wait, they met in Israel? Oh, oh, oh, yes!↗

1:52:27Speaker 1Yeah, and, and, and, somebody made like an AI footage clip of like where Charlie Kirk realizes that Erica Kirk is like a honeypot and, and, you know, Erica Kirk. Wasn't it a thing where Erica Kirk said she couldn't be there in person? So who knows, he might have had some inclinations, maybe they had a bit of an argument, but that's not something he wanted to put out online. You know, you could go all sorts of conspiracy theories, but I, I feel like, you know, as a man, Charlie had Somewhere, r-right towards the end, unless she was just that goaded of a honey pot, you know? Sad to say. Well,↗

1:53:03@anaescobarshowactually, yeah, it's interesting. Mid-level↗

1:53:05Speaker 1honey pot.↗

1:53:06@anaescobarshowYeah, mid-tier. It's sad, he deserved better. He deserved a better honey pot. They couldn't even get a- Are↗

1:53:11Speaker 7you fucking serious right now? Are you talking about a fucking dead guy, fucking simping for some fucking Israeli spy? Are you fucking serious, Christopher? Dude, I'm not serious. Is that really what this fucking space is for? Eric is talking to a disgusting↗

1:53:27Speaker 1You're gonna jump in here and get so sassy. Hey man, you can criticize↗

1:53:31Speaker 7me all you want. You just said, you just said, you just said that Charlie Kirk realized that he↗

1:53:38Speaker 8was, that he was being fucking smoozed over by the Israeli spies. That's exactly what you just said, Christopher. The space is being recorded. Hey, the space is being recorded. If you want the same↗

1:53:49Speaker 3thing,↗

1:53:49Speaker 1if you're, listen, unacceptable. If you're gonna try to paraphrase me and be all insulting, that is not acceptable. Exactly what I said, okay? You're using words incorrectly right there. What, I, I, I stand by what I said. Obviously Charlie Kirk is an intelligent man. Obviously he got honey-potted. let, don't, don't, I won't drop you. I wanna hear your thoughts, and you're in line after Ahmad, but if you're gonna jump in line, that's unacceptable, okay? Unacceptable. Just, just be quiet, and when we get to you, we can have that conversation. But, we'll get, we'll get to, Anna, and then some of these special speakers that Ian and Joanne have. We'll get to Ian and Joanne's thoughts, and then we have, Justin next in line. We really appreciate-- no, official, we have official next in line. We appreciate everyone's patience, and then it's Justin.↗

1:54:42Speaker 1So, Anna, you have any thoughts?↗

1:54:47Speaker 1Anna, do you have any questions?↗

1:54:49@anaescobarshowThank you, yes, we are muted. actually, you're right, he did realize it in the end. So there's actually pretty compelling evidence that not only were they certainly not sleeping in the same bed, Erica did mention that, that they weren't sleeping in the same bed, they weren't sleeping in the same room. he didn't kiss her, in the morning, or, excuse me, she was awake and didn't say goodbye to him on that day. And interestingly, the following Monday. They had an appointment to have his will changed, and so there have been a lot of questions about what the status was of their relationship right toward the end. They did a few, you know, of these joint podcasts in the beginning where they would sit down and talk about marriage and this and that, that hadn't happened for months. It was looking like about a three-month timeline, where-- and they were married for a total of, I think, four years. But the last several months over that summer,↗

1:55:44@anaescobarshowit seems as though he was moving away from From her, and he had kind of realized a few things, and that appointment was coming up the next Monday. There's actually been some pretty good research as to if that may have contributed to this timeline, because they did make that appointment, you know, pretty recently, like it was like they made the appointment and it was for the following Monday, and the entire UVU event was something that was scheduled very last minute, so a lot of folks have thought about the fact that, you know, what it might have been that- She was trying to make sure that there was no change to the well. I don't hate that theory.↗

1:56:22Speaker 4I know. Is it true that, TPU SA, lied about him saying that the podcast should go over to, Erica Kirk, something like that? Oh, that AI.↗

1:56:32@anaescobarshowYeah, that AI video, that was so ridiculous. They, they put out an AI video, where he's saying, "I, if anything happens to me, I appoint my wife, Erica, will do a great job." It was, it's already been debunked that That they, they chopped and screwed. They actually, had an AI company that they had been working with kind of recently that was intentionally there to recreate his voice. I mean, these people, the depths that they will go to to try to, you know, ruin this man's legacy, that's why I think it's so disgusting. I'm like, that's why I think it's so important that people keep talking about it because they will take that Legacy and run it directly to Tel Aviv if they have the choice. But fortunately, you know, people are staying on top of it. Baron Coleman is probably my favorite. I'm his three hundred and seventy-eight subscriber. He's at, you know, I think like four hundred something thousand now. I've been with him since the beginning, and, he's done incredible work on looking at the fact that their relationship was absolutely breaking down, and that, I mean, Erica, who knows what she was up to? Who knows what else she was doing? But it is interesting, also Also, that the next TPU SA tour, that they're going on, the person who'll be picking up the bloody microphone instead of Shapiro is actually her ex-boyfriend, Cabot Phillips, so she'll be taking him on tour with her.↗

1:57:52Speaker 4Yeah, I just wanna say, you know, all of you guys, I know you, you respect, respected Charlie, but m-my personal view, he was a Zionist, I wasn't, I wasn't too much of a fan of him per personally, but I, I stand for the truth, that's why I've been happy to share, you know, the, these ob-obfuscations of his legacy, even though in my opinion he said some horrific things about, you know, the genocide, Gaza, Palestinians in general, all, all that stuff. So even though I personally↗

1:58:21@joann_marieAnd, and now, what are your thoughts on the supposed book that he wrote, that it was just so convenient, like the Shabbat, and it's like, "Oh, Shabbat Shalom, Daddy's home," and all that shit. Like, huh? Don't, don't you think it was like extremely convenient, like- I,↗

1:58:37@anaescobarshowthe, you know, I'm not sure if she uses ChatGPT or Claude, but whoever wrote that, they barely even took the time to sit down. I'm pretty sure that whatever prompt they put in was just absolute BS, which is kind of their thing, right? you know, as far as Charlie and his legacy, I, I came into the Charlie Kirk situation, you know, looking at it, kind of neutrally. I mean, I knew that he, and I- I didn't align on everything, but I also respected him and respected that he's an American, and that means that he gets to say whatever he wants. It doesn't mean I have to agree with everything that he says, but he gets to say whatever he wants, it's the whole point of the fucking country, sorry, sorry, I get pissed off. But the thing is, he is somebody who they are taking his legacy, they put up a billboard in Tel Aviv talking about what a shlo- they call him a Shlomo Pearl, which I guess is like a good, like a sucker, And the things that they're trying to do with his legacy are so incredibly upsetting. Adam, I mean, I probably agree with you that, like, you know, many of the things that he said, I wouldn't have agreed with them. But I also, it occurs to me that a lot of what people have been told about, you know, these different political figures, left and right, like that is, that's over, that's, that's done, right? So If we haven't actually listened to his words, then I was like, I don't feel like-↗

2:00:00@anaescobarshowI can judge them. That's why I even, you know, started to view as much char- char- footage as I could from him actually speaking, not AI, but him actually speaking. And funny enough, Turning Point actually took a bunch of that footage down just to make sure that people couldn't go through and use his words against them, which realistically, half of the stuff that they say nowadays, you know, is exactly the opposite of What you can hear from Charlie Kirk's mouth that he said.↗

2:00:30Speaker 9It is truly insane they made an AI video of Charlie Kirk to, insinuate his wishes of a dead man. I don't know why Don isn't, isn't upset more about that than, than us trying to find the truth of what happened there. And you have any thoughts on that? Yeah, and I think that criticism, sorry, guys, that criticism that we leveled at Charlie Kirk, I think that may have been a lot of what- Hey, hey, Adam, I↗

2:00:53@joann_marieactually- Okay, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. You're↗

2:01:00Ian Malcolmnot next, okay? We're gonna go to, yeah, you can stop all the multitasking. Don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, don, Run mature conversations here, and when you burn out, it's a quick way to, to see yourself to the exit. no, the, the, you know, the, the, the curious piece, about this, right? And, and a couple different aspects that were brought up, but,↗

2:01:27Ian MalcolmI, I think one of them that, that certainly, goes maybe overlooked, right, is, is the nature of the, the two Anna's comments there on, on what's all happening here with the aftermath and all of these,↗

2:01:42Ian MalcolmHe brought up the book, which was just so laughable, right? Just happens to come out, and it's like, "Oh, wow, yeah, he's, he's really excited to get the Dreidel, here it comes." It's like, it's hard to take any of this, seriously. And, and the video that, if I'm understanding the order of operations, they released this video, "Hey, Charlie was really excited for Erica Kirk to inherit TP USA," it comes out that that's obviously fake, and then they come out the following day And they're like, "Yeah, we, we get trolled so much, we just, we thought we would troll you guys." It's, it, like, it's unbelievable.↗

2:02:21Speaker 10That's such a lie. That's such a lie, and there's no way that was, that's true. Like, they, they weren't joking. They weren't joking, right? Well, and the, and that's the thing↗

2:02:29Ian Malcolmis, is, is like, they, the, the lack of self-awareness, I, I really, I'm, and, and, and I'm kinda curious for Drew a wonderful parallel back to JFK, right? They invent the term conspiracy theory, they have the Warren Commission completely just botch the job. RFK looks at it and is like, "I'm pretty sure you guys are all lying, and I'm gonna get into political power and then I'm gonna expose how you're all lying, right?" Then they take him out as well. Like, we're, we're dealing with this sociopathic group that has to have, has to be a room temperature, if not lukewarm, IQ, because the play- Facebook is so insane, the lack of self-awareness, the indifference to shame. Oh, yeah, yeah, we, we told you guys, like, you, you thought you caught us, but actually, we knew that you would, so we told you in advance. Haha, we're so smart. But it's, it's, it's like we're dealing with toddlers, and yet they've got all the reins of, of power and control, they keep squeezing tighter and tighter. Anybody that stands in opposition to it, in this case, perhaps Charlie Kirk, they have to figure out how And so it, it really is, it's just baffling because whether it's Charlie Kirk, whether it's the acquisition of TikTok, the thought that this group of people have all this power, believe themselves so incredibly clever, and yet they're like, "Hey, guys, you, you know how we're gonna show 'em we don't have any power? We're gonna buy TikTok, and then we're gonna make the very next day Jeffrey Epstein a no-no word that gets you banned from Tik..." Like, how insane can these people be? And am I, am I missing something? Like, is this working on anybody with half a brain or is it only those completely asleep at the wheel?↗

2:04:19@anaescobarshowI mean, to be honest with you, the way that they're handling the situation is so pathetic. I always say, they will be victims of their own hubris. They've gotten out of-- They are a rabid dog, and it's our fault for not putting them down, right? I mean, that is ultimately our fault. Spiritually and↗

2:04:36Ian Malcolmintellectually speaking, or in terms of political power, not, advocating violence. yes, of course. yes, of course To our spaces from Galilee. Disavow,↗

2:04:45@anaescobarshowright, a hundred percent, disavow spiritually, intellectually, financially, and in ways of them having any power, you know, over the country. So as far as their culpability, I mean, they are out of control, and their hubris, that's half of the problem. But we should also think about the fact that You know, when they're putting out all this BS, right? When Andrew Culvett says something, he's an official spokesperson of Turning Point USA, which means that, you know, from a legal perspective, he's limited in the amount of things that he can actually say and get away with. That's why they have Blake Neff, you know, the insalvo that sits up there or whatever, you know, the weird guy that is always on Twitter now harassing everybody. I'm sure he's listening right now. He listens to everything that has the words TPUSA in.↗

2:05:34@anaescobarshowHe's the one who goes out there and makes himself look like an idiot, makes himself look like an ass, and that's on purpose because he doesn't have that same responsibility like Andrew Culver does. Actually, Blake Neff, he used to work for, for Tucker a long time ago. He was one of his writers. Tucker ended up firing him, and I'm glad that he did. Then, Blake went over and started working for Stu Peters, and when he was writing for him, you know, Stu recently was talking about the That, yeah, this is something that, you know, he was a writer for us for a time. He was a weirdo, he was a freak, and, you know, so I didn't really deal with him much. So he's done a lot of, like, you know, good background on kind of what's going on with Blake. But they're just-- it's, it's very obvious, right? But the thing is We should think about the fact that it's not Turning Point who's behind all of this, right? I mean, in the end, it doesn't seem as though it's Turning Point who's behind, behind all of this. And that's what I was saying before about the fact that they are happy to keep this at a Turning Point level, that they'll let them, you know, the powers that be, because Andrew called a boss, and it wasn't Charlie Kirk, right? I mean, Turning Point has got a boss, and it, it wasn't Charlie Kirk. There's people and real money Power behind this organization. And so my impression personally is that as long as it stays there, that's okay, they'll let them, you know, and they'll, they'll gas them up, they will put Erica Kirk out there in the hat, they'll have her go and do the little Janet Jackson hat and look stupid and look like an idiot, they'll keep wheeling her out there, right? But that's because it points all of the blame. I mean, if we wanna talk about a red herring, and again, nothing-- she's not involved, I think very much there's evidence↗

2:07:18@anaescobarshowAnd with that being the bad guy, that they're like, okay, you guys wanna go look like idiots? That actually kinda works out, because now people aren't looking at us.↗

2:07:28Speaker 11If we could, great points there, Anna. If we could, we'll get to the next speaker real quick, get to these hands, those, if we get to these hands real quick, we can get back into the, the group discussion between all these special guests. The next one on the line would be official, who's been very patient, we appreciate you. Then,↗

2:07:48Speaker 11it People know they're recognized, official, then it's Justin, then it's, Steele, but Steele's gone, so then it would be Ahmad, and then Rob, Raed, and then Amaru. So we appreciate your patience. Go ahead, official. Thank you so much. What's on your screen?↗

2:08:02Speaker 12Thank you, thank you, thank you, Deputy Chairman, thank you to, Ian Malcolm and, Deputy Chairwoman Joanne. I appreciate y'all very much. Shout out to Adam.↗

2:08:12@g0dfr0yAdam↗

2:08:12Speaker 12in here, my brother Adam. Good to see you. And David brought in what I, what I was, essentially came on stage to, to discuss. And Anna, thank you for joining us. It's nice to have you. it's, it's a pleasure. And, yeah, I'll start off by saying this, if If what's his name, if Tyler Robinson, it was in fact the shooter, I have two hundred and seventy-one thousand acres of land on the dark side of the moon that I'll sell you for six dollars and thirteen cents an acre. Now, moving on.↗

2:08:46Speaker 12TPUSA and Charlie Kirk was essentially funded, funded and propped up and built up by Jewish money, right? And for, for him to start biting the hand that, that fed him, I feel like was the wrong thing to do. If I was in, if I was him in his shoes, and the Jews are- Are backing me like this, funding me and propping me up, giving me this nice organization, this hot life, and then, you know,↗

2:09:10Speaker 12pot- essentially, you know, being a potential can- candidate for US president twenty twenty-eight, you know, being the leader of the right wing Christian conservative movement, this was their guy, okay? You know, he was, he was their, their, their, their golden boy, selected to, you know, to, to essentially lead, lead the next generation of, of, of Judaized Christians, and, and he was walking the line And until he started talking about certain things, things he started noticing that he just couldn't keep shut. You gotta keep quiet, bro. You, you, you're, you're, you're like, you're doing something that shouldn't be done, essentially. But who's to say, at least he spoke on truth, right? And like Adam said, I, you know, he didn't agree with a lot. I mean, same here. He said so terrible things about Palestine and the Gazans and things I just was like, "Oh, this is nasty," right? And then I start hearing↗

2:10:01Speaker 12The, the, the people that are funding, the number one funders of anti-white groups are Jewish Americans. And I'm like, hold on, what's going on here? It just didn't sound right to me. I'm like, bro, you can't be saying this, bro. What's wrong with you? You know, like, you, you, who's funding you? Who, who, who's helped you build up TPUSA? You know, who's helping you get all this? You pack up. The freaking cat came up here in my face and meowed. Who's helping↗

2:10:32Speaker 12How dare you, a-and be so, you know? That's, that's what I'm saying. So David, you were exactly right when you said he committed an act of heresy. You know, like these, you, you're biting the hand that fed you. He's like, you know, so, and he was calling them out, like all the, the, the, the rich Jewish Americans that funded and were the, primarily the major funders of anti-white groups and organizations, which is a hundred percent truth, you know? And but like, if that's, you just, if The other stuff, he's-- then he started saying, "Oh, October seventh was, stuff was there, was questionable." I'm like, "Hold on, bro, just the other day you were just, you know, saying Palestine didn't exist, you know, and now you're talking about October seventh, something was shaky on the,↗

2:11:15Speaker 12It'll, it's starving Gazans like, what are you talking about? It just didn't make sense to me, and then boom, the day before nine eleven, right? That's the day they took him out, the day before nine eleven. What, what a more louder announcement to, to let it be known that, you know, that like, hey, we're the one who took this guy out, you know, like we made an example out of him. So when you see these, these influencers or, or even politicians, then when they double, triple, quadruple down on↗

2:11:45Speaker 12Because Charlie Kirk was, was an example of what, what will happen to them if they dare step out of line, and that's how I'm looking at it. But, but yeah, thank you for letting me speak.↗

2:11:53Speaker 11Absolutely, thank you, official. And you're, you're right, he was biting the hand that feeds him, and I, you gotta admire a man that's willing to die when he starts to seek the truth and fight for the truth and speak his mind regardless of what pressure he might have on him. You know, same thing with JFK Kennedy, you know,↗

2:12:11Speaker 11he was↗

2:12:14Speaker 11Things in his diary we talked about last time Ian, that Ian posted, and, and the Jews got word that he's just talking, he's, if he, JFK needed to die before he made any crazy statements, the same thing with Charlie Kirk, he's talking behind the scenes, he made a few public comments, they needed to kill him while he was, you know, pro, pro-Israel, even though his final moments weren't pro-Israel, and, they, they, they, I wouldn't doubt if they'd do the same thing with Donald Trump. I mean, it really Back to that, Donald, it's a very real possibility that Donald Trump will be killed, assassinated before he starts to say too much, you know, because the-- but for Donald Trump's case, it's not about the truth, it's like we said earlier in the beginning of the space, it's more about his ego.↗

2:13:02Speaker 11Anna, do you have any, thoughts about that?↗

2:13:06@anaescobarshowYeah, I was gonna say, you know, something that I wish people talked about more was the fact that when Charlie was talking about Israel, like, you know, in a negative light, his benefactors, the Edelsons, right? If that premise is accurate, it's something to keep in mind that the Edelsons are like the sworn rival of Benjamin Netanyahu. And I think that that's something that gets kind of like not talked about enough, that Maria Madelsohn's been trying to get rid of Donald Trump, you know, since 2017, and she's really been↗

2:13:42@anaescobarshowSince 2019, she's been trying to have him replaced. That's why she's the main witness in his trial for the prosecution. You know, Bibi has been indicted now on two counts, and the lead witness, she's in the Bibi files on there, you know, singing like a bird for hours on the Bibi files as the- I think you mean he's↗

2:14:01Speaker 13trying to get rid of Netanyahu, right?↗

2:14:04@anaescobarshowWhat's that?↗

2:14:05Speaker 13You said she's trying to get rid of Donald Trump, you meant Netanyahu, right? Oh, I'm↗

2:14:08@anaescobarshowsorry, yeah, yeah, thank you for↗

2:14:09Speaker 13correcting me. Okay.↗

2:14:10@anaescobarshowyeah, she's trying to get rid of Netanyahu. And so for her, you know, when he's talking about October 7th, you should think about the fact that that was a military operation that's part of the Netanyahu government. And so her whole deal is she wants to replace, Netanyahu with a guy named Naftali Bennett, who is just as vile, just as bad, but that's like her↗

2:14:35@anaescobarshowWhen he was talking about certain things, we should be thinking about the fact that he was still kind of in line with what the big donors wanted in some of these ways?↗

2:14:47@anaescobarshowOther conversations that he started to have about, you know, some of these other questions about Jewish supremacy or about their influence onto things like the Epstein files, which the Edelsons are much more aligned with, when things kind of got out of control. I'm not saying Netanyahu didn't do it, you know, but when we're thinking about like what was allowed, there is, there was a little bit like, you know, there was like a little bit of subtleties that he was still walking some lines, and there are others that he was↗

2:15:16Speaker 13Yeah, and the-- and let's not forget that Netanyahu was the guy who gave Donald Trump a golden beeper to signify the fact that they had assassinated all these other people. I mean, you know, when a leader of a country is like, "Yeah, we assassinate people," I think it's reasonable to conclude↗

2:15:33Speaker 11the golden beeper, that's like a trophy or something he was given? Yeah.↗

2:15:38@anaescobarshowThat was his gift from Netanyahu. He came and he gave him a golden pager as his, you know, his official visit gift, and that was to commemorate these twenty twenty-four Lebanon pager attacks where they, Mossad had gone into the US supply chain or some supply chain. Oh, golden↗

2:15:54Speaker 13pager is what I meant.↗

2:15:55@anaescobarshowYes. Yeah, yeah, I know what you meant. I↗

2:15:58Speaker 11knew what you meant. And, and I'm, I'll just call it now, that golden pager is gonna be the thing that blows up Donald Trump. It was a bomb all along,↗

2:16:06Speaker 13guys. Well, you know, I do wanna say this, and this isn't to counter what Adam said, because Charlie Kirk does deserve criticism. He never called out the genocide as such, so he's absolutely right about that. But if there is one quintessentially American value, it's free speech, and Charlie Kirk was this incredible, really a true advocate for free speech. He, he would say, in no uncertain terms, "Hate speech doesn't exist," which obviously that's a way to corral us. And here we have now turning point, and I guess I should turn this into a question for our friend here. Here we have turning point now, they're not doing any of this, prove me wrong, they're not having any of these debates, the debate is over, and it's interesting how completely opposing they are to the idea of this free discourse of people like you and me going up to a mic and saying, "Hey, what about this? And what about Israel? And what about..." That is over. So if you want proof that TPUSA- Has totally done an about face. It's on the issue of free speech and engagement with anybody, listening to all voices, which is what Charlie Kirk, to me, can be most admired for,↗

2:17:17Speaker 11without a doubt. Joanne or Ian, do you have any questions before we get to Justin? No, that's,↗

2:17:23Ian Malcolmthat's good for me. Let's Joanne this.↗

2:17:26@joann_marieNo, I'm good. I, I, I'm loving this, this space. But guys, please repost this space. Let's get more people in here and, and follow Ian and Christopher and Anna and Anna and everybody in the panel. And thank you, everybody, for being here. Yeah, let's, let's go to fans.↗

2:17:41Speaker 11Thank you so much. Justin, thank you for your patience once again. what do you have in your mind?↗

2:17:46@justinecheverr9My pleasure, brother. I want to, bring to light that the, Mars Hill Christian Church↗

2:17:56@justinecheverr9actively, employed by the, military, if they, you know, because the, White House came out on the, their, did their breakfast meeting where they admitted that this war is being fought to, advance a, a, Yahweh-istic, prophecy. the Marcionite Christian Church regards Yahweh as the, demigod, false god of the physical world, as the original Christians did, and they're offering military exemptions to any, military members that don't wanna↗

2:18:23@justinecheverr9fight in, Aside from that, I also want to point out the fact that there was a, a laser dot, white laser dot that was on, Charlie's body that everybody was asking, you know, why is there like this laser pointer dot floating, floating all over, Charlie's body? Well, I also showed a video where you can see in Rick Cutler's hand, you know, there's, you can see the barrel protruding between his, his, his middle finger and his, and his other finger, but also below that, in his pinky, he's got You know, you, you gotta keep in mind that these guys, you know, they, they, they had to be the team that, that killed Charlie, 'cause one of the, one of the other self-admitted, self-admitted members, he, put the video of him in the, blue pill, he's admitting to creating a distraction after Rick, Rick shoots Charlie. you know, I guess it was, you know, to ho-hopefully distract the public away from, Rick's, you know, gunfire. You know, body into the, the back of that suburban.↗

2:19:26@justinecheverr9They were blocking paramedics from, from accessing Charlie's body, so it's, you know, it's obvious that they were, you know, they're, they were a part of, you know, they were, they were, you know, that was the team that killed Charlie because they were, you know, they actively blocked paramedics from ac-accessing, Charlie. And then on top of that, you know, they, they even rejected their paramedic,↗

2:19:47@justinecheverr9bags of, of, of, you With him so they could bleed out, you know, and make sure that, you know, the job was done. It's, it's funny how, you know, that guy Rick Cutler, you know, he wasn't, he wasn't employed by that security team, he was, you know, brought in two days before, and, you know, he ended up being the guy that they placed Charlie Kirk's head on his lap, so, you know, potentially the, the last set of eyes that Charlie Kirk looked into were the eyes of his killer. So, really morbid.↗

2:20:22@justinecheverr9Cross and then bounced up into his neck. You know, they, they scraped that grass not because they were trying to, you know, remove, explosive residue, they were, you know, they were bullet fragments. They, they wanted to, you know, rid the area of all, bullet fragments. It was also the reason why they, they kept the dogs from entering in there is 'cause they didn't want the dogs pointing out, you know, the, the fresh smoldering powder on Rick Cutler's gun.↗

2:20:44@justinecheverr9In my mind, it's, it's just so obvious that Rick Culler was the shooter. I know y'all, you know, some of y'all don't subscribe to the whole Rick Culler theory, but I know when you see that- No, it's very↗

2:20:50Speaker 11interesting. I, when I was going through the Purple Pill, I did see you post that thing about the, the laser sight, and that's- Not something I've ever seen pointed out, so it is an interesting thing. I'd have to go and watch footage again with my own eyes and see where we could see that laser pointer. Anna, do you have any response to this?↗

2:21:09@anaescobarshowWell, you know, I definitely can understand why, why people feel that that's, you know, a theory that they've settled on, and I get it. To me, Personally, it looked more like an exit wound. I mean, that's just, it just appeared in the footage that we saw of the actual event taking place, that the sequence of events appeared more like, you know, what we would see if it were exiting his body instead of an entry wound. That, and I also do wonder if they would leave it up to chance of, you know, Rick Cutler's aim, right? I mean, that for me is kind of the, the biggest reason why I haven't been able to go all in on On that theory, because the idea that they were counting on him to do it when they, for example, had that, camera that was right in front of him and pointed directly toward him, they could have, you know, mounted something there. I think that the laser, from what I've heard, it does make sense that that laser could have been some sort of, reflection from either like a laser targeting system, because there were drones seen in the area, and I thought that was pretty compelling, but, it's still pretty unexplored. And my thought is that once we get to the who, it's gonna become easier to get to the how, right? I mean, if somebody can break Mikey McCoy or whoever it is, then we'll probably be able to get to those answers. All↗

2:22:31@justinecheverr9these guys are gonna get killed before they ever get the chance to- Admit what they've done, you know, they're gonna, you know, they're gonna cover their tracks, the government's gonna, you know, basically, they're gonna, you know, kill all these people before they ever get a chance to, you know, admit, you know, their crimes. also, you should take note that the, Charlie's shirt, around the neck collar, you can see that the bullet, you know, after impacting his shirt, it rips through his shirt collar. There's a bullet hole in his↗

2:22:57@justinecheverr9shirt collar,↗

2:23:03Speaker 11We, we definitely know that, and, and maybe you'd have to reach out to Ian and see if you would wanna make a whole space to discuss that, 'cause it seems like you have a lot of information regarding that, and we could talk for days on that. And we appreciate you, Justin, you've given us a lot of information. Joann or- Yeah, thanks, bro. Joann or Ian, do you have any response to that before we get to the next speaker?↗

2:23:25Speaker 14I'm good. Yeah,↗

2:23:27Ian Malcolmlet's do it.↗

2:23:28Speaker 11Alright, hey, thank you so much again, Justin. Ahmad, thank you so much for your patience, Ahmad. are you still, yeah? Yeah, Ahmad. Yeah,↗

2:23:37Speaker 15I'm, I'm here. Yeah, thank you, for having me. I, I just got back on social media. Most of my accounts were basically knocked out. I'm a Palestinian from Jerusalem. I came to the States in--↗

2:23:49Speaker 13Do you, do you↗

2:23:50Speaker 15live↗

2:23:50Speaker 13in--↗

2:23:50Speaker 15No, no, no, I, I don't live in Pal-- No, no. I left Palestine in the late '70s and came to the United States. My father and uncle were Part of George Habash's group, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, I am a, pa-- a Palestinian Muslim from the neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah. Our home was taken, my grandfather's home was taken in nineteen eighty. My father was exiled in '73. Basically, he, w-- his sister pulled him out of there. He was constantly tortured. The last torture, his kidneys became infected and he almost--↗

2:24:24Speaker 13Tortured by↗

2:24:24Speaker 15who? Israelis, of course, Israelis. My uncle was the first Palestinian to do an operation Operation against the so-called state of Israel after the so-called fake six-day war, he was exiled to Jordan, came back in with five guys, three of the guys were unalived, one was injured and captured with my uncle, he was sentenced to 125 years in a military court with Musha Dayan, president, the one-eyed general, the war criminal. but anyway,↗

2:24:56Speaker 15you know It's elating for me to sit and listen to this stuff, amazing conversation, amazing people. The United States, the p-- citizens of the United States are awakening. in 1993, I met an individual by the name of Randy. Randy was an identity Christian or Christian identity, and Randy was walking with me on a track and We kicked soccer ball together. He wanted, he didn't wanna play a part of a team, he was kind of a loner. He picked me for some reason, I don't know what it was. So we walked, and he asked me my name, I told him my name, and he said, "Where you from?" And I said, "I have a habit of saying Jerusalem," so I said Jerusalem. He said, he stopped and looked at me, and he said, "Are you Jewish?" And I said, "No, I'm a Palestinian." and he said, " Your people are the only people fighting the Antichrist, and that went right over my head. Like, I know I'm a Palestinian, I know we're occupied, I know we're occupied by these particular people, but I didn't know the depths, and I believe most Palestinians don't know the depths about Now we're starting to find out, or people are starting to find out, and this guy led me to books like, The Thirteenth Tribe, The Illegitimate Tribe,↗

2:26:19Speaker 15The Pawns in the Game, and things like that, where my real awakening came about who I am and who we are and who they are and why they've, they've come there. But it went right over my head until I started to learn. But I'm elated to see these conversations, I'm elated to see that Americans are awakening up. I'm, I'm el↗

2:26:40Speaker 15That I, I think be-- prior to October seventh, I, I believe if you went around and asked people, "What is a Zionist?" or "Do you know what Zionism means?", I believe most people would have probably don't even know what the word meant or it even existed. Now we don't have that, and we-- people are waking up and people understand exactly what Zionism means. They understand I had to live most of my life of being portrayed and be-- painted as a- A villain that I don't exist, that there is no Palestine, there aren't no Palestinians, where Meir Kahane in 1980 can get on national TV in the United States and an interview in a, in a, in a educational channel and say Palestinians are dogs and they need to be unalived like, like dogs, and not a I was patted, about it, where a police officer can tell me that, how does it feel to be a bastard without a country? From that To this, for me as a Palestinian, I am elated. I'm elated, most of all, because I, when I came to this country, I thought I left my country, which was occupied militarily by these people, right? Who don't belong there. people who said I don't belong there. people who accused me of coming across the border, that I am an Arab, and I've come to occupy their land when they created this land that was a barren desert, right? Which was- All lies. F- for me to come to this, I, I left that occupation and I came to this country, and it didn't take long, and this was in nineteen seventy-eight, August of nineteen seventy-eight, it didn't take long for me to look at the American people and say, "Wow." My country is occupied, but the hearts and the minds of these people are occupied, and they're occupied by the same people who occupy my land. Because if you say you're a Palestinian to anyone at that time, the word "T"↗

2:28:42Speaker 15was exclusively for Palestinians and lightly for the, FA-- well, for the FALN Definitely, and for the Irish Republican Army, for those who understood what was happening in Northern Ireland or, the north of Ireland, so for, for to go from that To say I'm a Palestinian, oh, you're the tea guys, or even friends of mine who didn't mean any harm or any insult, but they were indoctrinated from every way possible, whether it was through the churches, well, the politicians, Newsweek, Wall Street Journal, ABC, NBC, WGN, Channel Eleven, they were constantly bombarded with this thing about these Palestinians and that these Palestinians are illegitimate and they don't exist and they're the Guys, and they're the villains and these other people are the victims. For me to go from that to this, I just sit idly by and watch, and I do what I can. I've published two books. One is my life story, the picture of it is right there, because I have, we-- before so they created social media to- To further bankrupt societies with nonsense, not realizing that social media backfired on them and gave a people who have no voice a voice and connected people from all around the world to start to understand each other and see what's really going on and all the lies that have been told. And it's so... I agree. Thank you, thank you. And, and then I'll tell you, Charlie Kirk, I didn't, you know, he, he, even in passing, he was a Zionist, and simply Zionist Is that someone believes in the creation of the State of Israel and the existence of the State of Israel as we know it now, right?↗

2:30:32Speaker 15and but if la- you know, later on, he started to change, and that change was coming in a way that was scaring these people. Just imagine this young man who has a strong following of people who mean something Imagine him flipping all of them, and then where he was, there was no stopping in him. He was gonna even go further, and he was gonna flip all those people to understand what is really going on in that part of the world and what those people are doing and who they are and how they control this nation and control all these politicians and this government, right? And they couldn't have that. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, and they couldn't have that. We↗

2:31:13Speaker 11appreciate the, the sacrifice that you, you know, you mentioned about your family and your uncle and, and And the sacrifices that you and your family have made to try to expose and fight against these people, you know, 'cause a lot of us, a lot of people, you know, here in the West, are communicating and, but there's not too much action being taken yet. No. Whereas the Palestinians have been forced to take action because they have been, taken over. Anna, do you have any response to, what he said?↗

2:31:43Speaker 15If I could just finish up with this and, and, and, and, and, and I appreciate what you said. I asked, I Yeah, just real quick, yeah, real quick. I ask, you know, my, my, my, my, my thing is I ask people if they, if what do they think of the movie Red Dawn with Charlie Sheen and Patrick Swayze, how these Cubans and Russians come to invade the US and they take-- and, you know, they're looked at as heroes and, oh, they're fighting the occupier. And I say to them, well, think of it this way, Charlie Sheen and Patrick Swayze and the rest of those young men are the pal- Palestinians fighting for their homeland, what is so wrong? You look at these other people as heroes. We are the same way. That Red Dawn movie would be exactly what the Palestinians have gone through. And thank you guys very much, I appreciate everything you do, and, and, and, and, and I thank you on behalf of every Palestinian in Palestine, above ground or, or beneath it. Thank you guys.↗

2:32:43Speaker 11God bless you, Imad, and thank you so much. And you're absolutely right about that red don. I believe, you know, Ian's definitely, got all the movie references in it, you know, he lives, he loves to give them often, so I'm sure he understands that, and I, and I remember watching that, and, when you put it in that perspective, you're absolutely right, you know? And, and, and Adam and David, I know that, that, that our host has given you honorary host privileges, so when these↗

2:33:13Speaker 11As well, you know, if you have any quick comments or questions while these speakers are speaking, I may, I may go to Anna and then I may go to Ian and Joanne, but that's because I'm trying to keep it organized. But feel free to jump in with any quick questions or comments, as we keep things rolling. Anna, do you have any, response to what he said?↗

2:33:32@anaescobarshowNo, I just wanted to say that, you know, it's been remarkable how quickly Americans have woken up, and that's a lot of the reason why we need to keep talking about it. We need to keep having these conversations, and I'll tell you that, you know, a lot of- The conversation around Charlie Kirk is kind of a good introduction, in what I've found, to helping Americans who aren't yet awake kind of recognize the evils of Zionism, and it's kind of the first step, and I'm very much interested in us keeping that conversation going. But, I mean, the sympathy has flipped, and that's because Americans are now aware of the fact that the Palestinian people have been on the right side of history. I mean, you can see it all over social media, the fact that now Americans are- aware of the difference between a resistance organization, right? Like Hamas has, you're, the, you know, I'm, I'm not sure how much I can say on this space, but you know what I'm saying? The resistance organizations that have been trying to protect their own people, protect their own land, and are doing everything that they can and are actually going out↗

2:34:36@anaescobarshowversus an actual T organization, which is very much the IDF, right? And Americans are becoming aware of that. I do think that Charlie's story has turned a lot of people toward that, and that's part of the reason it's so important to keep talking about it.↗

2:34:52Speaker 11Spot on, spot on. Joanne or Ian, do you have any, remarks to that? Questions? Comments? Well,↗

2:34:57Ian Malcolmyeah, one, one thing I would say, you know, it's so curious because, those of us in this room, we recognize that there, there is a tidal wave of awareness about these issues, right? It, it is starting to hit even in, let's say, very, very normalized discourse. I actually, I, I, I had a friend, I, I'll often share this, right? I've been talking about these Issues for a long time trying to subtly just, signal some of these things to, to individuals that they care about politics, but they don't care about, quote unquote, conspiracy theories. And, a-a-and just today, somebody, that, that I was speaking with, who I've, I've, I've layered some of this on the past, right, I've sprinkled things, he was like, "Oh, yeah," and, and I mean, Epstein and, and Israel controls Trump, and I was like, "What?" Where did this come from? Right? And, and I say it because, you know, this is something that especially for the younger audiences, this is broken through the zeitgeist. There's no going back. People recognize that Donald Trump is, is subservient to this group of interests. They recognize that, that Epstein was tied to it. A lot of them are starting to look at things like Charlie Kirk, the war with Iran, right? On and on and on. And so, you know, to Anna's comment, this awareness, we are winning in, in leaps and- And bounds. And it's worth noting that because at the same time, we see individuals that feel demoralized. They look around, "Well, we've created awareness, but what, what now? What, what's next? We're already there at awareness. Yes, we are, within those of us that explore these ideas, right? We need to get this to the point where..." It's not just one or two or three percent of the far reaches of the internet that are interested in understanding what's actually going on. We need more people to stop all of us that are in this room right now. Wait, so E-Epstein and Netanyahu own Trump? What? Right? We need those people to come around to the point that we get to five, to ten, to envision twenty percent of the general public of the entirety of the West. Right, in the United States, say there's gonna be something like seven, seventy million people that recognize that Israel controls essentially both sides, right? That, that, that Epstein was just a pawn of the Rothschilds, that he owns Peter Thiel and all the other technocrats, right? Once you get to that breaking point, you've got one in ten or one in five even Americans that recognize the entire system has sold them all out. Right? Then this becomes something that doesn't require violence, radical anything. It will just require all of us to band together and say, "We see what's going on, we're done with this whole game. We're only going to support candidates that are openly anti-Zionists, that are anti-Jewish supremacy, to the term that David coined. I want people to recognize this. David and Truth Teller were the first people that I heard use the term Jewish supremacy, which was just in, I think it was either the New York Post or the New York Times.↗

2:38:03Speaker 13It was in Zero Hedge,↗

2:38:04Ian MalcolmI There you go. Right? This is going to appear more and more and more commonly to the point where it's just a matter of time we're on the headlines of the Washington Post, "Is Jewish Supremacy, " right? We are winning. So I, I, I just wanna reinforce that 'cause to Anna's comment, we just need to keep talking about this to anybody and everybody that will listen to the point that we all see it, we all recognize it, and then we avoid the dystopia, right? We get away from Orwell, we get away from The Truman Show, to David's point, 'cause once you see the show, you can't go back. You can't walk back in. Every person that we awaken to this reality, they can't go back to sleep. And so we just gotta keep doing it to the best of We've gotta understand that it's a, it's a marathon, not a sprint, right? So for those of us that have been sprinting and running really hard against the wind and gravity and all of the other things that want to keep us out of the zeitgeist, we are winning. So everybody should just recognize that and just note it's not gonna happen tomorrow, but it's not all that far off. And as the last little thing, 'cause what I'm suggesting here, it's a lot about a PR campaign, which people for a long time have said, that's a waste of time.↗

2:39:20Ian MalcolmBut the thing that we do have to do is we have to blend the awakening of everybody via awareness and interest and, and information, and we need to support candidates that will talk about these issues. So whether it's the bigger guys like Dan Buzarion or whether it's the smaller people that are running in local offices that are willing to talk about these issues, right? Anybody and everybody, we need to be willing to get behind them, 'cause the truth of the matter is that if we don't, and if nobody can make a, a move to political- Quickly bring about some kind of change, then things are inevitably going to get radical. We wanna avoid that. We wanna try and do this through peaceful, righteous, informed, kind of a, almost holy, right? A spiritual battle against the insanity. And if we do that, and we do our part every day, we're gonna continue winning. I really believe that, Anna. And I'm curious, do you have the same sentiments there?↗

2:40:10@anaescobarshowOh, one hundred percent. I mean, I've seen just over the past- Six months, the amount of movement, you know? And, I mean, as far as the normies go, I'm like, hey, listen, if we can, if we can get the normies through making this like a true crime thing, that's what I'm kind of working on. That's what a lot of my podcast does, is it kind of paints it in a normie-friendly light, and then we make sure to talk about the realities of it too, because I do think that the, you know, the next step is going to be getting the girls and like the, For me anyway, it took me, maybe four or five conversations with my, you know, friends, family, and at that point they're all like, "Oh, and now, you know, my mom calls me and says, "Oh, do you think that, you know, having Netanyahu out of office is going to be enough? You know, and this is someone who..."↗

2:41:01@anaescobarshowWas a normie through and through, right? It's very possible, and this is a time in this country when there's an opportunity. That's why I'm saying that we have to like take advantage of it and keep on-- I mean, you don't wanna, I don't know, I don't know if it's bad to call it a PR campaign, I don't know. It deserves some PR, though. It deserves some publicity, and that doesn't mean that we have to like lie, manipulate. That's the, that's the best part about all of this.↗

2:41:27@anaescobarshowWe get to tell The truth of what happened, that's the reason that it breaks through, and that means that you don't have to be unethical in order to have these conversations. You're actually being quite ethical, and once they hear it, it becomes pretty hard to unhear it, and that's what gets motion.↗

2:41:50@joann_marieThank you, Saman, and just really quick, I'm, I'm also half Palestinian and the, the, the change from Two years ago to now, it's just amazing. I, I remember, a long-- before, like when people heard that I was Palestinian, they were like either don't even know where Palestine was, or literally thought that I was a terrorist. And now people actually see the truth, and I'm so grateful for people like you guys. And, yeah, I'm, every single day, I'm, I'm so grateful for, for it. And so, yeah, thank you guys. And, thank you, Ahmad, for, for coming on.↗

2:42:28Speaker 11Alright, our next speaker in line. For the big old introduction, I just want you to know Joann is happy to get you on. She's excited. She said, "We better get that man up here quick." Rob, thank you so much for your patience. What's on your mind?↗

2:42:46Speaker 16Oh, no worries. Just games for the mute there. Love to everyone here, love to Ian and Joanne and these amazing speakers, and our Nadim. you know, these conversations are so important and like, you know, there is such movement here. and it just goes back to one of these, spaces Ian had the other day, just about algorithms. And Charlie Kirk was really doing what these algorithms, created to stop. He was switching the teams, like he was taking the American Center, which is a Judeo-Christian center now And, and he was breaking the, you know, the largest, largest echo chamber that exists in the world. you know, he was trying to bring across and change things, which something which Israel cannot allow. If you're just, you know, a dedicated, you know, influencer who just talks about the JQ issue, you know, like Ian or, or Dan Bilzerian, all these people, they know how to deal with you. The one thing they don't know how to deal with is someone who is switching teens, who is bringing across one of the largest demographics that He was waking up, you know, the, the center that is now, you know, specifically being targeted, and he, he was bringing truth to this new group, which was like being aligned, with his new worldview. And he was saying, you know, there were stand down orders on October seventh, you know, this was the kind of false flag Casas Bella they created, to, to kind of justify this genocide we've all seen. And, and he did, you know, say that, you know, Gaza was trying to ethnically cleanse, and he also told Ben Shapiro days before he died, "You Jews control the media."↗

2:44:21Speaker 16he obviously, for ninety percent of his life, he was a Zionist puppet, but he was waking up something which they couldn't allow. so he, he also importantly, which an interview which people, rarely talk about is, he was talking about who actually controls America. Who influences the control, the outcome of this world's largest superpower? And he was saying it was the intelligence agencies, it was the FBI, CIA, and these kind of, you know, larger proxies of what is the kind of global intelligence complex, which is controlled by the Mossad. And he was calling this out at a time when people starting to connect the dots, and they lashed out and killed him. so now we actually have Israel taking back over the kind of Judeo-Christian leadership in America. They've been geo-fencing churches, taking thousands of these pastors out to these kind of, you know, social engineering trips to Israel as they kind of, kind of condition these new leaders, as they try and take back this huge power block which they've lost. but there's just one other point which I really think is important, is that this trial which is upcoming, which is ongoing, we really need to focus on. We really need to get behind Anna and Adam in every aspect of this, because they're the ones speaking out at the, at the top of the mountains about this. 'Cause there's things that we, we actually have to start like bringing back into the, in the conversation. Why can't the security, team that was there on the day be part of this trial? They're not. This is totally against the normal protocol. And it's standard practice these people to be called in. Why don't we bring in, you know, the autopsies reports? there's actually evidence saying that, there was no autopsy, certificate was signed by the doctor at the hospital. so all this evidence is being kind of diminished. We need to bring that back into focus. We need to demand this evidence be on trial. Where's the levelia mic that he was wearing? w-we, we need to bring that into discovery. because obviously coming up is the trial, July sixth, seventh, eighth I had to reschedule because they wanted more time for discovery, which just allows them to gather more evidence, because there is so much. Even now, with just like the, you know, the standard evidence, there, there's literally, you know, the bullet fragments could exonerate Tyler Robinson, who is just patsy. So now even like the, the evidence that they've allowed into, be submitted is going against the official narrative. So this trial matters hugely. We need to demand that the security team, we all know their faces, and obviously there's a huge amount of↗

2:46:47Speaker 16The mic or the palm pistol, and obviously the palm pistol one is being suppressed the most, and obviously there is evidence there was an infrared, laser pointer and all this other stuff, and the chances that the bullet would hit the, the cross, it's just, it's, it's like, you know This person was going to be the next leader of America. He was going to be the next president, and he was killed in front of us. It was a murder, it was an attack on the heart and soul of America. And this trial, and these people speaking up about it, like Ian and Joanna and Anna and Adam, these are the people that we need to champion right now. This, this trial matters more than people think. So the more that we can bring this evidence and have it, have shine the light of day onto this This is where, like, this is the, the kind of catalyst for waking up and bringing that whole American center across to the good side, to the truth,↗

2:47:36Speaker 16and where we all are today. So, love to everyone.↗

2:47:41Speaker 11Thank you so much, Rob. Anna, do you have any response to that?↗

2:47:45@anaescobarshowNo, that was so well said. I'm like, oh my gosh, he came ready. Yeah, he said it perfectly, everything, everything that we were all thinking. So thank you for that, and thank you for speaking about it. You're exactly right. This is something that needs national focus, and we all have to remain focused on it because it is, I mean, funny enough, it's, it's a turning point, right? And so it's the very least we can do, and we're not just doing it for Charlie Kirk, we're doing it for this entire country.↗

2:48:13Speaker 11Joanne, any response to that? And the name?↗

2:48:16@joann_marieNo, it was perfect. I told you, Rob was awesome. Thank you.↗

2:48:22Ian MalcolmNo, Rob, Christopher, Rob is, just an absolute, superstar, and the thing that's so incredible is an individual like him that, perhaps on the entirety of the opposite side of the planet, and yet, able to connect in this digital sphere to bring together These ideas to learn from one another, and, and I've, I've just been humbled to be able to have spaces not only on, these geopolitical events with him, but I also just wanna give a quick shout out, 'cause we've been doing monthly spaces with, I can't call him Dr. Rob, but we call him medical expert, and, and he truly is the, the things that he's able to talk about,↗

2:49:04Ian Malcolmboth in terms of, of your diet, things to do with your body, right? Things to↗

2:49:12Ian MalcolmIndividuals come in and basically say, "I have this ailment, what, what can you recommend?" And his ability to just, you know, talk through some of the complexities of the human body, it's always just astonishing, as it is with so many others that are in these spaces with us for entirely different, purposes, right? so Rob can unpack what's going on inside your, your, your diaphragm, right? And, and David can tell us all about, theologies while Truth Tower tells us about the history of the Bolsheviks, right? Along the way, and that's why when I saw Anna's content, I was very excited. I thought, "I need to figure out how do we get a conversation with her to discuss what's going on with Charlie Kirk." And I, I really do, you know, we can't- We, we can't express how absurd and significant this moment was in many ways. The, the, the death of Charlie Kirk, I don't wanna necessarily compare atrocities, right? But it certainly has to be up in terms of the impact that it had on the nation at large, similar to nine eleven. Right? Two buildings, well, technically three buildings, went down on September 11th, and one man went down on September 11th, September 10th, and the impact that that had on, on, on, not just, Americans for what it's worth, but kind of humanity at large, and the reality that his essential martyrdom to this cause, even if it was completely indirect, right? In, in many ways, his death very similar and akin to the absurdity that was the genocide of the Palestinians. Right? People noticed what was going on and said, "This is insane," and then started paying more attention to these, these issues. And so, as obviously, you know, an atrocity as both of these things were, in many ways, they spurred on the very awakening that's going to bring about the awareness of the villain, which perhaps in the long run ends up actually-- Think about this in a very strange roundabout way. Charlie Kirk's death, prospectively as a martyr, ends up having perhaps an even bigger impact On the world than he could have through his lived life, right? And that might be the most insane piece that we could take away from this entire thing, especially given he probably could have been president, right? But perhaps he would have been president over an America that remained enslaved to these sets of, of, let's say, the cabal and their interests, which disproportionately are Jews, right? Instead, through his death, a lot of people have connected those dots to Israel and all these other insane connections in a way that maybe wouldn't have ever happened otherwise. And so, you know, we, we, we need every day to do what we can, certainly to remember the legacy of, of men as, larger than life, as Charlie Kirk certainly was, and, you know, while we could critique a whole lot 'cause for a long time he was certainly a shill for, for kind of Zionist interests, and I shouldn't say shill, I genuinely believe he just didn't see it, and then when he started to, he started to talk about it. Right? And we can fault him for not seeing it earlier, and I, I certainly heckled him on, on Twitter, and I raised Joe Charlie Kirk on an occasion or two. But in retrospect, it's not like he was the villain, he was just confused and trying to figure things out. And so I, I, I think we really need to keep that in perspective, and it's why when individuals come into these conversations, I always try as, as, sincerely as I can, to feel out, is this person just lost? Or are they trying to subvert our conversation? And if it's intentional disruption, well, then we are going to embarrass them, right? But when it's somebody that's sincerely just, they haven't seen these dots yet, rather than shaming them, mocking them as being the fool, we need to shine a little bit of light on the problem, help them find their way to the water, and in doing so, maybe bring some kind of restoration to their understanding of everything else. So, just really humbled to be here with Anna. I mean, look at this panel with Joanne, I really read through everybody that's up here with us. I'm so excited for all of them, right? And, and Anna to be able to share this with you and, and to really pick your brain on it. Which actually, Anna, if we can, to kind of circle back over to your expertise on Turning Point USA and, and kind of the insane propaganda machine that it has become. We, we talked about that video clip that they just threw out as complete slop. Do you think, are, are they- Gaining an audience, are they rapidly losing an audience? Has this plan, if it was in fact a conspiracy by the usual suspects in Israel, did, did they lose the plot and it's kind of over for them, or unfortunately are they still gaining a lot of ears and eyeballs?↗

2:53:49@anaescobarshowOh no, I'm pretty sure that the Not Charlie Kirk show had a hundred and forty-five viewers today. I mean, it has gone off of a cliff, you know? And realistically, that was what was supposed to happen. I mean, they aren't carrying on his message even the slightest. So it's a good thing that people are aware of the fact that they are trashing this man's legacy. And I would say that probably most of his viewership has moved into, you know, probably following folks like Candace, who- Who actually is trying to carry on his legacy for real, because she actually cared about him. I mean, everyone with eyeballs can see that she, she was a true friend to him, and she's a dog with a bone, she's not gonna let it go, just like a lot of people are. So, no, Turning Point has completely lost the plot, and I think that a lot of that has to do with the fact that this has been so fumbled from the moment that it happened. And if we're looking at the types of folks that, you know, have been involved in↗

2:54:49@anaescobarshowTo Cash Patel or a guy like Rick Cutler or a guy like, Brian Harpole to try to, you know, ease her fears, even someone that everyone can see as Snake Oil salesman in Intracovert And in the end, I don't think that the point for them is to carry on the message. I think that originally, maybe it was, like maybe that's what they were thinking, is they were just going to move on. They're all glowing and bright at his memorial. They were all just full of light. And now they've either, you know, slunk off into the shadows or they're just making total fools of themselves, right? But There's no way that this, you know, Turning Point itself as an organization absolutely died with Charlie Kirk. That's my opinion.↗

2:55:35Speaker 11Anna, may I ask, do you know, I've heard rumblings, and I guess I didn't, look too much into it to know exactly, you know, because they created that fake video where Erika Kirk is, is deemed like the inheritor of Turning Point. I, I was under the impression that Charlie Kirk already had made a note of who was supposed to inherit,↗

2:55:59Speaker 11turning point, should he pass away or should something happen to him? Do you know about that at all?↗

2:56:06@anaescobarshowYeah. so Charlie, you know, had said that the board would make a decision, that the board, turning point ultimately would make a decision. Apparently, during the Aspen meeting, which is a meeting that took place, I think about a month before he passed away, they had a meeting with several donors in Aspen, and there, he may or may not have made a comment- That people think was probably a joke, where he was saying, "Oh yeah, sure, Erica can do it." that's the reason for this whole AI video that they were scrambling to have it made and have it make sense, which it didn't. The funny thing is that Candice did, you know, remark recently that she probably has actual footage from the event. That's why they're just tying themselves into knots to, you know, try to push that story away. But he was like making this comment off the cuff in jest, and then Candice did have a lot of the donors re Reach out to her directly to say, "No, that's not what he was saying, that's not what he meant. why is it that they're doing this? They, they don't-- Some of them don't get it either. "↗

2:57:07Speaker 11All right, well, thank you so much. We'll have to dive deeper into that. And↗

2:57:10@joann_mariealso He, he was like dodging, what is it, like dodge for, for TPSA, no?↗

2:57:19@anaescobarshowYes. Right. He had ordered an audit, financial audit of TPSA, and I wanna say it was eight days before he passed. I'm pretty sure. And, you know what? This is me speaking off of memory, so please someone correct me if I'm incorrect, but I believe that he had moved, he had removed the CFO, if I'm not mistaken. Like he had removed the financial oversight out Out from underneath, gosh, someone please give me the name of the guy, 'cause I just think of Turning Point as just an entire swamp. But I think that it might have been Tyler Boyer, that he had removed that CFO and said, "No, we're actually gonna give the finances over to someone else, because I'm a little worried about what's going on with the finances." If anyone's interested in doing deep dives on that stuff, there's a guy named Wolves in Finance. He's on YouTube, he's great, he's done a lot of really good work↗

2:58:09@anaescobarshowon, That turning point went from an organization, I think they were clearing something like eight million, in twenty twenty, someone correct me on the numbers, please, but they were looking at around like eight million, then it went to twenty-two million, then it went to what, forty-five million, and allegedly the offer that, you know, he couldn't refuse, the one that he wasn't supposed to refuse, was like a hundred million dollars. And that's why when we're talking about like the level of people that actually had the, the actual liquid cash To provide to them, that's why we started talking about and thinking about people that are wealthy enough to make that kind of offer, and we started looking at, you know, the actual Israeli government and folks that are megadonors like the Asans.↗

2:58:58Speaker 11Alright, and, that was some deep stuff we could keep going into. W-we'd, I just want you to know that we do have some speakers that have requested and they've been accepted. If you wish to speak, our policy here is please raise your hand, 'cause we do have an order of things. So if you're on the speaker panel and you wanna speak, please raise your hand. We have, we're gonna have Raed, then Amaru, and then Godfrey, and then Hippie Milk just raised his hand. And anyone down there, you know,↗

2:59:27Speaker 11it That you request isn't just for people that have information. If you have questions, if you have a question about something and you wanna hear people's perspective, please request to speak, we'll get your question going. Raed, thank you so much for your patience. What's on your mind today?↗

2:59:41Speaker 17Hey, Christopher, thanks for the mike. Ian, good to see you, Joanne, the rest of you, and I 100% agree, Ian, it's- Everyone on the panel, like I, David, it's good to see you as well, Rabbi Adam, and, today I got to meet, Anna, Anna, like, It's, it's very clear that your work, you have put a lot of effort in it, it's meticulous and professional, and, it's beautiful to get to know you as well.↗

3:00:15Speaker 17you know, the way I, I, it's early in the morning here, and these days sometimes I look forward to wake up, waking up, putting my coffee, and then being with you guys. I see, like I'm at, what I'm at from Jerusalem was saying, I see that, You know, it is glorious times, and on our side of the world, we are fighting back and we are winning. on your side, it is glorious to see that, and I always tell that story, but, but it's nice to repeat that my mother studied in, in the US and- Around '69, something like that, early '69, '70, something like that, and she used to tell me as a kid, like, "Forget about telling the Americans anything negative about Israel, actually forget about convincing them anything other than that the 1967 war, Israel executed it with the highest of moral standards of any army around the world." So, hahaha. Truth, truth, truth. And then, and then in 1982, actually, she took a bunch of women friends and she-- because we were invaded, but we were getting invaded by Israel, and then she went, to New York under the U-United Nations building and, and protested, and she reported the same, like That the, the Americans have been,↗

3:01:41Speaker 17intellectually occupied with the lie of, of, of what Israel is and all of that. So it is glorious. It, it, I like the word he used, elated. Yeah, like it is. I am-- This is exactly what I feel. and, and not only that, to see-- And I agree with Ian. This is, this is an intellectual battle. It's a, it's a battle for the mind. So it's like- They occupied everybody's mind with, with falsehood and lies about what Israel is and what the Talmudic tribe is about, and I see you guys as the truth tribe, and, and I'll give that example. So look, if, if my body had cancer and I didn't know that I have bad cells inside my body ruining it from inside↗

3:02:36Speaker 17I'm not gonna go do chemotherapy. I need to know first that I have cancer. So if we think of, as the United Nation, that, that, that, you know, that place has bad cells operating inside it and, and very insidiously rotting it, rot-- have, they have completely rotted Washington. So the job now is just to let the American people know that there are bad cells, and then- At a later stage, chemotherapy comes. Now how it comes, which form it takes, will it be gradual and politics within, whatever. But at least for now, the battle is just to let people know about that insidious nature of these parasitic, you know, the Talmudic tribe, the Jewish supremacists, whatever you wanna call them, and it's good to see. on the other hand, I've, I've always-- I didn't know much about Charlie Kirk, but, when I saw a few videos- Videos maybe four, five, three years ago, whatever. I'm like, for me having th- being third generation in the anti-Israel resistance, intellectual resistance fight, I've, I know Mossad.↗

3:03:52Speaker 17like I really, really know Mossad. My parents Yeah, yeah, so, so we know what Mossad is, and I read the book, you know, and I recommend that book, and I'm sure Anna has it on, on a shelf somewhere, and also Adam. you know, Ostrovsky's book, "By Way of Deception, Thy Shall Wage War." This is a book about Mossad. And once you read that book, and then you understand the concept of the SNI, I'm just gonna say, Yeats, Mitch, stealth medical, right? You, you understand the whole jig, right? And I, and I see, so I, so what I say about Charlie Kirk, maybe resting in peace. I saw him as a useful idiot, that's it. and then, and then I, and then when the assassination happened, it was very clear that he's no longer an idiot. He is asking really serious questions and like he's-- I'm no↗

3:04:49Speaker 13longer useful.↗

3:04:51Speaker 17That's what I'm getting at. So, no, when he, when he stopped being an idiot, he was no longer useful. And the only useful thing about him was to assassinate him in such a way to scare the bejesus out of everyone else. It was very clear to me that this is exactly what happened even before I knew about that poor kid that's being, you know, hung out to dry and all that. And this is how they do it, because it was very clear, like you wanna take out someone, y- there are so many places and times that you can take them out and even poison them with all kinds of things, like so many people get taken out and no one hears about it, you know, in that kind of fight, especially on my side of the world, to decide to do it like that. With the whole blood and all, it is, it was very clear to me, it is a show, to scare and to send a message to a lot of people, because this is how they operate. See, for them, and, and I've, and I know it very well, and that they are cowards, all right? Across the board, anyone belonging to that tribe, trust me, cowardly, cowardness, and I'm not being like trying to be, I'm, I'm just,↗

3:06:09Speaker 17Observing, you know, observing. Oh yeah, without a doubt. I remember↗

3:06:12Speaker 11when they were invading Gaza with tanks, and you heard the stories about the fact that the Jews wouldn't even leave their tanks to use the restroom, they weren't-- they wore diapers. Meanwhile, you'll have Americans, you know, or whomever else that is a strong fighter, they're sitting on top of the tanks, they're smoking cigarettes on the tanks, they're playing cards on the tanks, they're walking out into the woods saying, "I'll be back in a few." A few seconds, I'm taking a piss, you know? So the, these people, they, they truly have fear and they don't have the faith and courage and the fighting spirit that others have.↗

3:06:49Speaker 17Listen, yeah, listen to this. It is army policy to distribute diapers because They wouldn't leave their tank for ten minutes to do their thing and come back. What kind of army makes a policy to distribute diapers? And, and that isn't why I'm calling them cowards. That's the latest manifestation that we saw the last couple of years. They are cowards since the inception, since 1948. This is since they were↗

3:07:21Speaker 17sent out a hundred and nine times, since they're- The, the cowardice is in the DNA period dot, and they operate very well, very efficient, very, harmful in the dark. But Put a light on them and see. And that's why I always say the, the best description I have is, you know, when you go into a cabin that you have on a lake or in the, in the ski resort, and then, you know, at night you turn on the lights in the kitchen, and then cockroaches scower and flee? That's them, and I think now the American people ha-have shunned the light. The light is on, and you can see them. You can see how they're behaving. So, so it is glorious times. And, and one more thing, like came into my mind, like now when I'm, when I'm, when I'm having my coffee, it's like each, each and every one of you is a pixel in a, on a screen that writes, "Yes, the home of the brave," and pixel After Pixel, you are proving that, yeah, I, like I personally had no hope that, you know, because you're not, you're not the land of the free for now, and hopefully you will be, but I thought, is it the home of the brave? Let, I hope I'll see the Epstein files came out, I thought people gonna go on the streets, they didn't, but, but I, I see you people, guy, here on, on this app, and I believe it's manifesting all over the country that each one of you is A pixel, and then the picture is gonna be great on that screen. Yes, the home of the brave, and each of you, you know, are gonna be contributing to that. And one more thing about the Mossad, just thirty-- this is thirty-eight seconds, if you don't mind, Christopher. This is very important to hear this part. This is sixty minutes. This isn't a fringe show somewhere. This is sixty minutes, and this is a Mossad guy talking about the Mossad.↗

3:09:25Speaker 14How did you convince Hezbollah to buy this?↗

3:09:29Speaker 18Well, obviously they didn't know that they were buying it from Israel.↗

3:09:32Speaker 14Who did they buy it from, or think they were buying it from?↗

3:09:35Speaker 18We have an incredible array of possibilities of creating foreign companies that have no way of being traced back to Israel, shell companies over shell companies who affect the supply chain to our favor. We create a pretend world. We are A global production company. We write the screenplay, we're the directors, we're the producers, we're the main actors, and the world is our stage.↗

3:10:03Speaker 17And he's wear- Is he wearing? He's wearing a black mask with shades on. That tells you how cowardly. The crimi- There are criminal and cowardly, and you are on the righteous side, and they're going down. All right, much love and respect.↗

3:10:20Speaker 11Thank you so much, Raheem. And, you know, yes, they are cowards and they can't fight for themselves. So it's interesting when Netanyahu says earlier today or just yesterday that, if Israel has to stand alone, we will stand alone. And wouldn't we love to see Israel stand alone so that way they can finally get their due justice from the world that gathers against them? And, and of course they're wearing their diapers and their pre-prescribed diapers because they can't leave their tanks. They're only two per- percent of the world population. Don't you know they're being holocausted? They can't just be losing Jews left and right. It's ridiculous. Anna, do you have any response to that? Thank you so much, Raed, and that was a very good, sixty Minutes episode clip that you shared. Anna, go ahead.↗

3:11:04@anaescobarshowNo, I thought that was excellent. That, thank you so much for saying that, Rade. You know, we couldn't agree more. Everybody is getting on the same page, and I honestly think that that's half of what they're freaking out about, is that we're realizing Americans are realizing how much we have in common with people across the world compared to the people that- But some of them even right here that, you know, are on the opposite side of things. So that's the entire point of it.↗

3:11:31Speaker 13That clip was fantastic and right, it makes me think, well, gosh, it's consistent with their tagline, which is "By way of deception." And he's saying, he's literally co-- basically identifying Jewish supremacism. He's saying, "We deceive everyone, we're behind everything. Now, think about this." On July the, on July the 15th, before Charlie Kirk was assassinated, that's when Thomas Massie submitted his request for the, for the Epstein files to be released on the House floor. That didn't pass till a month after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. That bill didn't become law till a month after, so two months after. The biggest scandal in American history by far, one of the biggest scandals in world history. And this guy, I mean, Charlie Kirk was assassinated right after that, and you notice there was a period of time, and maybe Anna, you could address this, did you notice that people stopped talking about the Epstein thing? We saw in front of God and country a group of people that were clearly Jewish supremacists bragging about controlling us, bragging about undermining our civilization, and bragging about- About using sex trafficking as a method for doing this. Charlie Kirk comes along and says, "Gosh, there's a connection between Epstein and the Mossad." And then right when this assassination happens, Anna, we no longer hear about the Epstein thing, which seemed like the key to everything, which seemed like the key to undermining Jewish supremacy, our relationship with Israel, and I would say for a good three or four, it took us three or four months to come back to have any discussion about the Epstein scandal. So in a way, one of the benefits of doing this in front of God and- country for them was they got people to stop talking about the Epstein thing all the way through the passing of that legislation. What do you think about that?↗

3:13:23@anaescobarshowI couldn't agree more. That's something that I've been thinking a lot about, and I've heard a few people talk about it. I mean, there are a few people that are still really working on it, Julian Dore on YouTube, he does a great job, he's been on it the whole time, but I do think it's very, very relevant and something as far as Charlie goes that I hope that we can talk It's the fact that, you know, when we're thinking about all of these people that may or may not have been responsible for, for September 10th, there's different motivations brought everybody to the table. I think at this point we can kind of, you know, and my impression is that if we wanted to look for a reason why Trump or the government would greenlight this, it may have something to do with that, you know? I mean, they didn't need to share a motivation↗

3:14:12@anaescobarshowWith Mossad or with, you know, Jewish supremacists, these Jewish donors, with the Turning Point folks who didn't want that audit to be done, with Erica, who didn't want them to make that appointment on Monday, there can be a lot of different motivations that'll get everybody to the same conclusion. And I'm, I feel very comfortable saying, "Yeah, that makes a lot of sense for why, you know, why we or actors within our own government might greenlight that."↗

3:14:39Speaker 11Joanne, Ian, any response to that? Any response to Raed or what Anna said or what David said?↗

3:14:47Ian MalcolmYeah, I mean, I, I'd say that the thing that I'd bring up for Raed is just, and, and, and, I, I think it is critical, to point to this. Is this idea that, a year or two ago, and I can say this with certainty because I know I was in rooms with him trying to talk about these issues with fifty people, right? And, and, and we've gotten to this point as a team Team by being kind of open arms to anybody and everybody that's willing to be open voice about these realities, and, and that as a result, everyone that's in here, right? Whether you're listening, you're speaking on the, the, these spaces, you're, you're making posts, or whether you're taking the information and you're just sharing it amidst your community, right? Whatever form you are taking of that, you are essentially a intellectual and a spiritual freedom fighter, right? You are a hero, and, and- And I know that that might sound hyperbolic or like we're patting ourselves on the back for a victory that we haven't yet achieved, but we're going to win, first and foremost. And when we do, five, ten, twenty, fifty years from now, people are going to look back, and I really believe this, and, and maybe I'll, I'll make a comment and, and, and, kind of point this to David, 'cause I'd, I'd love his thoughts on this. All right, the, the two hundred and fifty year anniversary of the United↗

3:16:05Ian MalcolmRight? We can go back and look at the founding fathers, and I, I often think of those that were involved in the Federalist Papers and anonymously were trying to circulate ideas and to say that there is something really wrong with what's going on here. Right? They weren't in the middle of Times, the town square doing that because they knew that they would be treated as a criminal for doing so. They'd probably lose their life for doing it. And so look around the room and notice that we've got a lot of people that are doing precisely that. Right, so here we are at, at, at two hundred and fifty years. The system was beautiful, it has been subverted. We now need to declare independence just from a different tyrant And unlike the British, who previously, they'd walk around in their red coats, they'd say, "This is what we are," and I gotta give props to kind of the honorable nature of that war. They were very clear, "This is your king, you pay him what you owe him, and if you don't, we will put you in chains." And then they showed up when it got kinetic, and they said, "We're gonna stand here on the battlefield, this is how we do it as gentlemen." I think they had, they had essentially the, the rules of war. It was all done very properly, right? And actually, there's a, a, an argument to be made that part of the reason that Amer-America was able to win is because they didn't always follow those rules. Which, shame on them, perhaps. There's actually an entire movie about the Swamp Fox. You wanna go watch a movie called The Patriot. It talks about this very idea, fighting an unconventional guerrilla war against a tyrant that has all the power. Right? And so here we are, taking some of, I suppose, the anonymous efforts of those that wrote the Federalist Papers. We are conducting, kinet-- not kinetically speaking, but rather intellectually and spiritually, we are trying to do our own guerrilla tactics to work on this new battlefield. That it was Netanyahu who talked about the digital landscape. This is the war, it's just for everybody's minds. And so here we are. We are the patriots of today, we're gonna be the heroes of tomorrow, not because we want to be able to say "yea, us," or we want any shekels for it. Most of us get nothing for doing this, aside from knowing that we're doing our part, right? And so this two hundred and fifty year, it's going to mark the rebirth of essentially a revolution against tyranny. But again, unlike those tyrants of the past that would meet us on a battlefield, honestly and openly, they would declare who they were. The one that we have are within our own system, right? And it is our country that applauds the idea of opposing terrorists or terror or enemies that are foreign and domestic, and we've got both of those. It's just that the domestic enemies that we have aren't working in good with the foreign Foreign enemies that we have, they are one and the same thing, right? And so we need to recognize they're not gonna meet us on this intellectual battlefield. They don't even come into our spaces anymore, right? That's the irony. They won't even walk in here in good faith and try and have a debate. They know that we will crush them, right? So how funny is it that we have to use the guerrilla tactics, even though we're the ones that would honestly and fairly and righteously- And, and blatantly stand in the middle of the town square if they'd just let us do so, which they won't, which is why we get censored, suppressed, shadow banned. But kudos to Elon Musk for at least letting us have the little tiny piece of the town square where we get to share these ideas, because even though we are censored and suppressed, it doesn't really matter, 'cause people notice the patterns, they wanna learn more about 'em, they find themselves in these rooms, they no longer pay any attention to Ben Shapiro, which is why Dr. Simon Godec can↗

3:19:48Ian MalcolmMillion followers with a piece of moldy bread, right? And so we don't need the Tea Party, we got the Bread Party, folks. It is our moldy bread, and we are going to defeat an entire empire of psychopaths and sociopaths and pedophiles, and we're gonna make the world a better place. And so again, patriots of today, heroes of tomorrow, doing so selflessly for everybody and anybody else, and again, to go back to the quote from Mission Impossible, for those we love and for those we won't. Never meet. We're gonna do our little part in the shadows and make the world a better place. I sincerely believe that, Ryan, and, and as always, you're such a hero. Mr. Nietzsche, am I, am I overstating our position?↗

3:20:32Speaker 13No, my friend, and you know, Ryan is right. We are the land of the free and the brave, but we should reverse the order of that sobriquet, because we were brave before we were free. That's the order that's gonna happen now. And don't forget, our country was founded by seditionists. They were founded by people who opposed the greatest force on earth, but their principles and the truth endemic to those principles was vastly superior. That's what Iran has been fighting for, by the way, for their own soil, for their freedom. And of course, that's what we're fighting for now, and it is amazing that it's exactly two hundred and fifty years later. And I really marked that moment when, when, Israel bragged about buying a seat in Kentucky. They bragged about it. "We won," they said. "We defeated you," they said. What a Pyrrhic victory that is. What a Pyrrhic victory that was. Maybe it is when Franklin said, "It's a republic if you can keep it." Maybe we have lost it, but what we're going to get now? What we're going to accomplish with this great awakening, it's going to put that to shame, because we're not gonna roll back the movie so we see if it'll have a different ending. No, the future is a thousand times brighter because we have forgotten what it's like to be free. We're so tyrannized over by these people. We're enmisered in a thousand different ways from how we raise our children, how we're allowed to talk to each other, what we're allowed to say and think.↗

3:22:03Speaker 13Free association! All of these things are American principles, and it's American principles upon which they've waged, waged war, and we're definitely winning the Great Awakening. It is absolutely wonderful, and that is why I say there are two great generations in American history. Our founding generation, and the one exists today, and yes. It's true that we may not be the heroes of today, but all of you will be the heroes of tomorrow, and there is a romanticism to being part of this because you're just fighting for freedom. I mean, that's it. It's a struggle between slavery and freedom, between those who wish to extract your wealth and reduce you to servitude, and they're saying it right to your face. They're threatening you, they're cajoling you, they are absolutely in every way possible intimidating. And Raya is right again, these are cowards. All we have to do is stand up Stand up and say, "We will not back down. We will not stop. We're going to keep saying it. We're gonna keep talking amongst each other, and in the words of Thomas Jefferson, there is no possibility of an enlightened people being tyrannized over." So this enlightenment is happening, and I love being a part of it.↗

3:23:11Speaker 11Thank you, thank you, and you're absolutely right, David. I agree with, with everything that you said, especially regarding the fact that they're slowly taking our rights away and that people don't realize the rights that we once had. And I, I remember hearing a few days ago where people said that the, even the rights that we have today, that the future generations or the younger generations Don't remember or even know of the rights that our elders have had, and that it's a slippery slope. They're, they're trying to, you know, hate speech, this hate speech thing is a huge slippery slope. I mean, the, the things can change in just a couple years. It's crazy how during COVID, like, for hundreds and hundreds of years, there's only been two genders. It's just that simple, it's just that plain, but then just in a couple years, they've brainwashed a whole- portion of our people to believe that there's eighty different genders, it's absolutely ridiculous.↗

3:24:11Speaker 13And to believe that you're, that you're right to speak freely is, it's dangerous. There is nothing more dangerous than the people who want to take that away from you. We just found out when that kid was being pummeled in front of the world, we found out that there's a commission, what's the guy's name, the black guy who came out against him, and there's a, there's apparently a commission against antisemitism in, in, in the government Like literally,↗

3:24:35@joann_marieyeah,↗

3:24:37Speaker 13the Commission, he's like,↗

3:24:38Ian Malcolmhe's just phenomenal, isn't he, David? It's unbelievable.↗

3:24:42Speaker 13Yeah. And but, but why would they wanna take this away? Listen, they wanna take your freedom of speech away because it's the way you-- if you want to enslave people, you're, you're confiscating their body, right? You're confiscating their flesh. They're telling you, "That's where wealth comes from, it's the product of human ingenuity and thought." And the, your main defense against that, if you don't think your voice matters, then why do you think they're trying to take it away? And so stop being reticent, it doesn't help. Say the thing. And by the way, retweet, retweet the spaces, repost the spaces, whatever it is, the most you can do right now or the best you can do is to vigorously say what is true, loud and proud, because they're coming after that one freedom for a reason, and it's not gonna work out for them.↗

3:25:26@malleusigAnd,↗

3:25:27Speaker 13and am I, am I- I'm thinking,↗

3:25:28Ian Malcolmthinking that with, with people like the ones on this panel, that it, I mean, we've already won. I really believe that. I don't know how anybody could listen to this from our opposition. You know, Ben Shapiro could be there with Masad listening in to David and just be, "Oh, we're in a lot of trouble, guys."↗

3:25:46@anaescobarshowAbsolutely. I mean, just think about, just think about the fact that some of the most popular, you know, social media figures, right? I mean, think about the numbers that a guy like Tucker Carlson does. Compared to even what he was doing when he was at Fox News. Think about the fact that Mark Levin, yeah, exactly, he's losing to moldy bread. And then in the meantime, there's folks like, I mean, if you go down the list of some of the most popular voices right now that are really resonating with people, all of them are pretty clearly on the right side of things, 'cause that's what needs to happen and that's what is happening, right? But I mean, they've just gotten this freedom now to actually be able to speak their minds, but you can Like Ian Carroll does an amazing job,↗

3:26:31@anaescobarshowof course, Candice, there's, I mean, there's just so many of them. Even a guy named Mr. Quigley, who I just wanna give him a shout out on YouTube, he's fantastic, he's kinda new, he goes into a lot of stuff about Jewish supremacy. And so the idea that that guy is getting a voice and a platform, it means that it's working. So we have to keep going, we don't have a choice.↗

3:26:53@malleusigI was gonna point out very quickly, this goes back a minute, but, Christopher, you said that, they're gonna convince us there are multiple genders. That's actually not the battle you wanna fight. The real, the real swindle was convincing us that gender exists. And it's important to make sure we push that, their tricks all the way back to the beginning, because if we don't, they're gonna have us accepting their frame of reference, which is, if we allow it to happen, is gonna be absolutely poisonous to us in the future. Gender doesn't exist. It's, it's a made-up, it's a concept that was made up by a Jewish pedophile named John Money, and, it needs to be utterly denounced every chance we get.↗

3:27:32Speaker 11Yeah, I, I understand, and, and I have a few of my elders that almost said the same thing, but then I have this dictionary behind me from the old days, and, if you go right to it, the gender right there in the beginning of the definition, it says, male or female. So it is an old word, and it, and it was always used for its intended purpose, but yes, it's definitely, just like all words have been changed to benefit the Jew, such as the word vaccine and all that, I, I do agree↗

3:28:02Speaker 11Speakers, go ahead. Quick as possible, because I know Joanne has another favorite person or another person she looks forward to hearing from. Amaru is next on the list. We really appreciate your patience, Amaru, if I'm saying that right, or maybe it's Am- Amaru. thank you so much for your patience. What's on your mind?↗

3:28:20Speaker 11You can↗

3:28:20Speaker 19say it anywhere you need to. Grace, Grace, seriously. Ravid, on point as usual, but I'd be careful about threatening a diaper force. They might pee on your Be careful with that. I gotta say- I didn't hear it.↗

3:28:35Speaker 17I wanna hear it. Say it again, because I didn't hear it.↗

3:28:39Speaker 19oh man, I'm not gonna- Come on, everybody↗

3:28:41Speaker 17laughed, I wanna laugh. I'm, I'm getting four more laughs.↗

3:28:44Speaker 19Oh, no, it's not gonna be as good, but I said, "You're always on point, but you won't wanna mess with the diaper force, 'cause they might be on your floor."↗

3:28:54Speaker 17okay, alright, funny. It's, it's the Israeli↗

3:28:58Ian MalcolmRugrats.↗

3:29:01Speaker 11The Israeli Rugrats. Yes. Is that all you had to say? It's, oh, it's, oh no, no, I'm just gonna get you to continue. Alright, alright. We, we do have a huge list of speakers through, to get through and then,↗

3:29:15Speaker 17so please,↗

3:29:15Speaker 11what's on it? Alright, alright. Just imagine↗

3:29:17Speaker 17the army saying, "Go, let's get, let's kick ass, pick up your diaper on, on, on your way out. It's just crazy."↗

3:29:25Speaker 19So like I was saying, I'm enjoying your villain arc, Ian. You know, you're cooking and then you're, like in the comments, you're cooking and then you're like, "Cook," you know? I'm so proud of you. it just cracks me up, like you're just, you've had it, right? You're like Stephen Netanyahu when he was showing, like, you know, the nuclear bomb. Diagram where it's like they're at 90% and they're this close, and it's been hundreds and thousands of years where it's this close, but you don't have nukes, and you're like that, but like the real, you're at, it's real with you, of course, 'cause Jews are always lying and shit, but you know what's interesting about Charlie Kirk, there's something that happened recently that's somewhat relevant, which is how the Jews have turned on Trump, which has been really funny and, cathartic to see.↗

3:30:13Speaker 19like- You know, someone said that, I think it was David, who said that, Charlie Kirk was like the second most important American asset they had, and I think the first is Trump. And very quickly, just by going against one little thing, just saying, "Hey, maybe don't bomb civilians in Beirut," and they're all like, "Yeah, we hate America anyway, and fuck them," and all. It's like This is how vindictive and shameless and retarded they are. And so yes, they would turn on Charlie very quickly, like they turn on Trump in an instant. They turn on anyone else because they're supremacist, and they have, like, they don't compromise at all.↗

3:30:49Speaker 19so it's definitely believable that Israel did it, and I'm glad you mentioned, George Zinn, because he's also the guy that said that he saw the plane hit the tower. So it's like they're using the same fucking guy. They're not even getting creative with it. I'm sure we're gonna see him in this next, false flag that Laura Loomer keeps telling us about, because they're so pissed. I mean, these Jews were just like sucking Trump, and now they're all, they're talking about Marco Rubio 2028. Like, what's happening? What the fuck's happening? Can someone explain?↗

3:31:23@anaescobarshowWell, just so you guys know, Rubio is the Adelson's choice, is he's the preferred, candidate. They don't want Vance, they don't think that he's, you know, he's too aligned with this kind of- Other contingent, but they think that Rubio, that's been their puppet. I think Trump was tweeting about Marco Rubio being a puppet of the Adelsons back in twenty fifteen, if I'm not mistaken. So they have flipped on Trump, and who knows what they're gonna do? I mean, he's-- The way I think of Trump is I'm like, you know what? I, I definitely n-not a fan of this time around, but also he's my president, you better keep your hands off of him, you know? So we'll see.↗

3:32:03Speaker 19Well, I think, you know, if he wants to go against Israel, go ahead, but you're going to prison after, like, sorry, bud.↗

3:32:11Speaker 20Just a quick point, so Rubio's not just Adelson's choice, he was also Epstein's choice, he was also Larry Ellison's choice, if you read the Epstein files. It's a lot more, it's a lot murkier than the IME.↗

3:32:27@anaescobarshowYeah, I couldn't agree more. I mean, we can get into the, the connections there, I don't know if we have time to, but, but yeah, there, it's, it's a big club, and none of us are in it.↗

3:32:40Ian Malcolmwell, and, and really quickly, what, what, might be interesting. I know Godfrey's had his hand up for a, a while, so let's, he's next on the list. And perhaps we could do, oh, wonderful, and perhaps we could do, Anna is↗

3:32:53Speaker 11Oh, go ahead.↗

3:32:53Ian MalcolmYeah, maybe we could go, we could go Godfrey, and then maybe Anna, we could go back to you for kind of a, a final little segment here, specifically on, TPUSA and your thoughts in some of the financial entanglements and, and essentially where it goes from here. We know that the audience has been totally dwindling, but just the, the financial machinations by which it's being powered by, a kind of a foreign empire, I think, might be rather interesting for everybody. But, first, let↗

3:33:22@g0dfr0yThanks, Ian. Thanks for hosting, and always a pleasure to be on a space with you and, huge, as you know, huge, huge fan of your work, and I consider you a good friend here on X. So good to be up here with you. my question for you is, you know, how, how long can they keep this charade going? TPUSA is essentially completely stone dead. as you mentioned earlier, they had like a hundred and forty-three viewers or something like that today, tuning into the Not Charlie Kirk show. Like, how long can they keep up this facade? And I, I say that in the larger sense too, how long can the Trump administration and the FBI Keep up this facade, and, and it's, it's the weirdest patsy story, isn't it? Because usually in a patsy story like a L. Harvey Oswald or even a Thomas Matthew Crooks, it's clean, even though it's dirty, and we know it's, it's a patsy, it's clean. There's, there's enough It, there's enough of a narrative hook, and forgive that term, but that's the only way to describe it, a, a narrative hook there to, to get the public to be on board with it. You don't have this here. You have Tyler Robinson who supposedly walked down a flight of stairs with a thirty-eight six rifle. You have these ludicrous text messages that he sent, the night before that make no sense and really they were written by a forty-five year old man.↗

3:34:52@g0dfr0ynothing about the Tyler Robinson, his own grandfather in, in breaking from history, right? His own grandfather doesn't think he did it and is actively trying to get the message out, so like the whole narrative is crumbling. So my question for you is, is it like, like we are reaching a breaking point here where like they can't keep this, they can't keep CPR on this narrative for much longer? How lo- how long do you have until- We start to see action, we start to see like former TPUSA, people protesting, you start to see TPUSA cratering financially and maybe having to declare bankruptcy, and then just, just this whole narrative exploding in on itself. How long do you think they have to keep this, this, garbage Patsy narrative alive?↗

3:35:40@anaescobarshowYeah, hi, great to see you up here, Godfrey. I'm glad that you came up to talk to us, yay! I enjoy being on Spaces with you. So, you know, my feeling about TPU SA and their plan for, well, their plan for TPU SA feels to me like they- Know that it's collapsing, they know that it's a sinking ship. The Raven Fleet's quite yet, but, you know, a lot of the folks that weren't directly involved with any of this, they have moved away already, and we are seeing more and more insiders, reaching out to creators. I've had conversations- Conversations with them, just about like the inner workings of what was going on and what kind of direction things were already going in even before, Charlie was taken. And so I did notice just the other day that Andrew Colvet, who has been kind of positioned to try to be a little bit of a replacement Charlie, he has started now his own social media, you know, channel, and he's now like he's, he is co-hosting himself. So it feels- To me, like their plan is to maybe try to separate the two. I think a lot of people are very rightfully disgusted by the idea that they're saying it's the Charlie Kirk show. I mean, that, it's, it's on the, the little ticker every single episode, pretty sick, and people have been, you know, calling them out left and right. But like as their audience kind of dwindles away, I get the feeling that they're getting more and more desperate. I don't love it. I, my personal theory is that they're going to be fine with Erica going under The bus, as long as they can kind of save their own skins.↗

3:37:16@anaescobarshowAnd that's part of the reason why, you know, Andrew has controlled, Erica's social media for the past several months. All of those weird tweets, that's all him doing, right? And he also ran, you know, he runs the Turning Point, he runs Charlie Kirk's old account, he did even before he passed away. So he's a little bit of a puppeteer, and I'm sure that he's desperate to find an answer. I'm like, Andrew, if you're listening, you're not↗

3:37:42@anaescobarshowA total effort. But, as far as the, the finances at, in T-TPOSA, you know, something that happened right before Charlie passed is he turned down this hundred 50 million was supposedly, offered to him by Netanyahu at a meeting in the Hamptons, and he turned it down. And then Netanyahu called him back and offered him even more, said they were gonna take Turning Point to the next level. During that actual meeting, my understanding is that Andrew was supposed to get a good deal of that money, and I wouldn't be surprised if that, you know, deal went through. I think that the entirety of the deal went through, so they don't really- They care about the numbers, they already have all the funding that they could, you know, ever want. It's just that they're in place to be just another--↗

3:38:35@anaescobarshowI don't know if you wanna call it a patsy, but they're another convenient excuse or another scapegoat that the people that actually did this, in my opinion, that actually planned it, can use to shield themselves from any actual accountability. So that's why I'm really glad that Candace has now started talking about some of the things like the, you know, the exploding mic, as well as the ties that Which is really interesting, and we can talk about it if you guys ever want to, but,↗

3:39:03@anaescobarshowthe fact that it is now becoming less about the people that were directly around him and more about the people that were probably responsible for most of this planning, then I get the feeling that, you know, they're heading off a cliff, and they know it, and they'll save their own skin. So Mikey McCoy seems to be the person that people think might end up being the first to the courthouse, you know? The first person who's gonna break? he does seem like he's an emotional person, whatever that means, but he's certainly not, you know, not the person that they want to get in front of the media. So that's the sense that I get. His father is Rob McCoy, who's a pastor who's been involved with all of this TPU-SA faith. That's the real push that they've been having, is to turn it into this faith-based organization, even though, again, it's free speech, that's the purpose of it, but this entire Zionist pastor group they are all on Trump's, Pastor, what, what is it called, their Reverend, his like Reverend Leadership Council or whatever the case may be. So they're all working together, but if they're able to kinda separate off Mikey McQuay from the herd, then hopefully he will be the weak link and I think that'll break things open a lot.↗

3:40:22Speaker 11Yeah, any response?↗

3:40:27Ian MalcolmYeah, I, I, I think probably the inevitable piece about that, the, the, the idea of this ruse, right? The, the unfortunate reality is I think what we're probably going to see come out of this more than anything is a continued division, that actually will kind of mirror those that are still in the left and right paradigm, and what I mean by that is obviously politi-- politics has gotten more and more and more heated, the last, let's, let's call it ten, twenty years. Right, it's at the point where people can't even discuss these things anymore because they are,↗

3:41:00Ian Malcolmit, it's no longer people discussing taxation, right? The, the, let's say the, the idea of hawks versus doves in foreign policy, it's, it's basically people at each other's throats, right? And, and clearly this was seen during the Kamala Trump election, you also saw the exact same thing during the Biden Trump election. And my, my point in bringing that up is I think what you're gonna see is a more visceral, division between those Recognize the subversion and those that don't. And the beautiful thing about it is, as that tension heightens, well, then it's only going to be more and more and more obvious to those that are, let's say, ignorant or indifferent to this cause, because these, these problems are so complete Right? And, and in a weird way, I feel like whether it's Epstein, Charlie Kirk, or now the situation with Iran, right? These things so play to our favor that the more irate people get about the subversion, the more the people on the other side have to just be like, "You know, maybe they were wrong about Epstein, maybe they were wrong about Charlie Kirk. I don't know if they can be wrong about Iran." Right? So the, the, the more heated, the more visceral this becomes, the more, exemplary each and every day is of Side, the, the, the more frustrated people get at the indifference to those that refuse to note the obvious, and I think, you know, the, the, the best case and point of this in, at least in the recent, maybe Twitter sphere Has been diligent, Denison. You know, and, and for a year or so, I was the crazy guy that was talking about Israel and the Jews, and now he's, he fully sees it, right? It's, it's unavoidable, and in a really, you know, simplistic microcosm, he kind of serves as your everyday man that cares about politics and is a patriot, right? And they're looking at these things and saying, "This doesn't work," and, and he, he's very direct and blunt, you know? He'll, he'll open all of these- Conversations. I've got nothing against Jews, I've got nothing against Israel, but I do have something against unit eighty-two hundred members making up the senior leadership of almost all of our technology companies. What is happening? Right? So you start noticing those patterns, and once, once diligent goes down that path, right, he's already accepted somewhere in the back of his head that our worldview on the control of the media, he's already accepted that, 'cause it's, it's, it's so obvious and flagrant, right? But then once you start noticing the exact same patterns around big tech, around the social media platforms, right, and what is happening in his face, it's actually, I'll stick with this metaphor for a second, because in diligent's face is, he now sees the JQ. He doesn't talk about it the way that we do in these rooms, but he gets it. And now he's got people like Masad Mike, that's his handle, Masad Mike comes into his face and says, "No, no, the government, the government isn't censoring free speech. That's private companies, so that's not an infringement on your rights." And so I said to Masad Mike, I said, "Who is it that forced the sale of TikTok?" "Well, let's not talk about that." He wants to go talk about something else. Because it was the government. And then who was it that said, "We got TikTok after it was sold to Larry Ellison, a Jew from Oracle, or the Jew who owns Oracle?" It was, of all people, Benjamin Netanyahu. We got TikTok. Israel got TikTok, 'cause it was bought by a really rich, powerful Jew. Apparently, that equates to Israel and Netanyahu. Right? So you start noticing these things, and the reason that I bring him up, and Dilligent faces up, is because the more, the more Dilligent talks about these things, the more they flail, they being the clowns like Masad, Mike, and they exemplify our points. Right? So now not only does Dilligent recognize that the media's captured, the technology groups are captured, the politicians are captured, but he also sees in real time That the usual suspects are willing to lie in the most roundabout, laughable degrees. And then once you see that, you recognize that this isn't just a political problem, it's not just a financial problem, it is a problem with an ideology that for whatever reason, believes itself entitled to lie about the most obvious of truths. They are telling us it's sunny outside, and not only can we see out the window that it's clearly raining, but they're walking in from outside, soaking wet. And they're like, "It's totally dry, guys. Don't..." No, no, you can't look at my jacket. No, no, no. No, this isn't water. No. Right? It's, it's crazy. And so let them continue floundering, but yes, to that, to the comment initially, it's gonna continue to get more and more and more heightened because it's becoming so obvious to so many people. This is no longer a hunch. It's no longer the weird thing that people like Rabbi Malice and I in some far-off Twitter's base are like, "Hey, guys, I think Jews have too much power." Everyone looks around and says, "Obviously that's what's going on." So we're gonna continue winning, and those that refuse to see it will recognize that they're either fools who will never be able to walk in a straight line, or they are subversives. And back to Amiru's comment, that's why I'm at the "cuck" phase of this conversation. What I mean by that is, no, Mossad, Mike, it's clearly an infringement on free speech because the government is particip↗

3:46:30Ian MalcolmThey are limiting our digital speech options. Right? You don't get to say freedom of speech, but not freedom of reach, but that's not in any way, shape, or form infringing upon your free speech when it's done by every single technology company, while, oh, by the way, politicians are actively pushing right now in the United States to require you to dox yourself to participate in the internet. That is another step to just categorize everybody, to catalog everything, and then ultimately to criminalize the act of these conversations. So we see through it, those that are gonna lie about it, I will keep calling them Jewish, cocks, and shills. And the more that we do those things, not to be angry or hateful, but for other people to recognize that we're tired of the lies, and as we discuss these things calmly, people lie about them, we will call them out as liars. The liars and the other people that are witnessing the conversations will recognize the patterns of the behavior. So we're going to win, it is inevitable. We have already won this war because the only way that this ends is them letting us do what we have been doing, in which case we will continue to win, or they criminalize the act of having the conversations in which all of our critics have to accept, "Well, obviously we've been right all the time." Either way, this thing is over. So just keep putting one foot in front of the other, we are unstoppable. We are... That's By the way, Masad, if you're listening, to quote, Agent Smith, that's the sound of inevitability. We are that which is inevitable. Our worldview is gonna win. We are unstoppable.↗

3:48:08Speaker 11That was an, an exciting, an exciting rant you gave us, no doubt about it. Oh, we, we have, Rabbi, 'cause Hippie left. Rabbi is next. Rabbi, thank you so much for your patience. What is on your mind?↗

3:48:22@malleusigThanks, Chris. I was just gonna ask if we went over, the, the, the clip from Dilegance Space earlier where the, ostensible Israeli admitted that, or alluded to the fact that Israel might have been planting explosives in the helmets of our fighter pilots for God knows how long.↗

3:48:43@g0dfr0yOh, do↗

3:48:43@malleusigyou have that? Can I retweet that? I can find it, yeah. Diligent re- he, Diligent put on his own timeline, I'll find it, and then you can, you can retweet it. But apparently they had a space earlier today or yesterday, and they had, let me find the name of the guy that was doing it. and, he basically, I mean, they never come out and say it, they always do this whole mafia thing where it's like, "Nice place you have here, would be a shame if something happened to it," right? But, what For your fighter pilots, and, wouldn't it be horrible if something happened to them if you guys decided to stop the war against Iran too early? here we go, yeah, I'll, I'll put this into the sp- into the, the back channel for you guys, but I mean, how cra- I mean, how crazy is like, the, but people like, Jews literally feel justified coming up and threatening our military? If they're not getting their way in the region, like, like what the hell?↗

3:49:48Speaker 11No doubt about it. to res- Real quick, I'll respond to Ian, then I'll respond to you about the explosive, helmets. Ian said that, you know, he said it's not, you know, not to be hateful or not, not to sound angry or something like that, but I do support righteous anger and I do support a righteous hatred. You know, whether you believe that we're just animals or whether you believe in God, both, both of these things, it's okay, it's perfectly fine to have righteous hatred, to have righteous anger. And they would guilt trip us and make us feel like, you know, oh, it's, that's not acceptable or somehow- That's you're lesser of a being or lesser of a man or lesser of a lady for feeling these sorts of emotions. But, these people are raping, they're killing, they're, they're destroying our people, they're destroying our future, so you have every right to have a righteous anger and a righteous hatred towards this. And then the response to The, the explosive helmets, one of my elders pointed out that the Milwaukee packouts, you know, the containers that hold the Milwaukee tools, Milwaukee packouts, it's like the little, toolboxes that you can stack and, and have different sizes and whatnot, and you stack them and you put your tools in there, those Milwaukee packouts are made in Israel. And he opened up one of the lids at the store, and he shows in the top of the lid where it's a plastic container, but There's these, the, it's, it's heavy, there's something in there, and he says it could be weights, they could put weights in there to give it a bit of oomph, but they could also be explosives, where they destroy your tools should you have your tools stored in there, and they need to just blow up everyone's Milwaukee pack outs for some reason, should they get too extreme or, or get too desiring. So, you know, the Milwaukee, not the Milwaukee tools aren't made in Israel, but the Milwaukee pack outs, for some reason, plastic storage containers with↗

3:51:41Speaker 11Box at your local store, and it says made in Israel. Ian, do you have any response? Oh, go ahead.↗

3:51:47@malleusigGood, good. I mean, after, after somebody did with the pagers, like, how long did it take for them to infiltrate the supply chain to get those explosives in the pagers? And at what point, I mean, if it was anyone else, if it was me doing it, I would be like, "Yeah, five years into it, we're, we're not even, we're not at the point where we detonate them yet, but↗

3:52:08@malleusigAnd I don't think it's outrageous to assume that the Israelis decided to see what else they could put explosives in.↗

3:52:16Speaker 11Put explosives in everything. I↗

3:52:17Speaker 13vote for diapers.↗

3:52:19Speaker 11The explosives in diapers?↗

3:52:20@malleusigDiapers?↗

3:52:22Speaker 11That's great. Anna, do you have any response to this, Anna? Go ahead, Anna.↗

3:52:27@anaescobarshowNo, I mean, I was just gonna remark upon the fact that, yeah, I've been spending a lot of time thinking about the fact that, you know, sometimes how Trump strikes me, I know he's, I know he's crooked and all that, but sometimes he strikes me like that he-- that Israel's got a hostage, and the feeling that I really have is that in some way, the hostage really could be all of us. You know what I mean? Like just the way that he-- the way that all of this has kind of unfolded itself and- And then when you start to think about the fact that there's been all of these unaddressed issues with our supply chain, right? That, I mean, there was all of that ammonium nitrate that went missing. There have-- there was a conversation, I don't know if you guys are aware of this, about, the PETN, the same thing that was used in the Lebanon pagers. I don't know if we wanna go down the Butler road right now, we can, but there's been a conversation about, if some of that PETN was diverted And if that's the PTN that ended up in the pagers in Lebanon, but there's a ton of these supply chain issues and there's a lack of care about our own national security and our own sovereignty that it's like I wouldn't put anything past them at this point.↗

3:53:48Speaker 11Be in any response to that? And then real quick, who brought up the, who brought up the helmets? Which one are you?↗

3:53:55Ian MalcolmThat, that was Rabbi, and if, if he can, because I know he, he, can play some music for us from time to time, if he can play that, that clip from the space, we'd be really curious to share that with everybody. Yeah. I wanna make sure we then go around to a couple more hands. and I did wanna also let everybody know that, so Truth Teller just opened up, his program for the day on, on Iran. So what we'll do is let's go through↗

3:54:24Ian MalcolmAnna for some additional thoughts on everything, then we'll come back up to David and Christopher and start to wind things down.↗

3:54:29@malleusigAll right, let me just pull it up real quick. And here we go. I don't↗

3:54:32Speaker 21wanna say don't fuck up with Israel, because if Re- if really America wants to fuck up with us, it will get fucked first. And I know your concerns, I heard you, and I heard you. You're kinda↗

3:54:45@malleusigvalidating my concerns, but can you- Of course, it's after he said it, huh?↗

3:54:49Speaker 21I'm validating your concern, of course. I don't wanna say don't fuck up with Israel, because if re- if really America wants to fuck up with us, it will get fucked first. And I know your concerns, I heard you, and I heard you over- You're kind of↗

3:55:06@g0dfr0yvalidating my concerns, but in time.↗

3:55:09@malleusigYeah, that was after we talked about the helmets, that wasn't good. I'll find it, go ahead. But, they played in Sarah's space, and she had the whole thing. I'll see if I can find the full clip.↗

3:55:19Speaker 11All↗

3:55:19Ian Malcolmright, why are you looking for that? Oh, go ahead. Yeah, isn't there this curious and, and Anna, kind of, I'll, I'll throw this one to you, and then we can go to Godfrey. isn't there this weird element I feel like, where with this group that we're often talking about, it, it seems like even when they are caught with the hand clearly in the cookie jar, right? And we look and we're like, "We see what you're doing, that's wrong."↗

3:55:47Ian Malcolmeven then, there's Hubris that will not allow themselves to accept that they have done something wrong, and so in this situation, perhaps the diligent was facing, this guy's basically saying, "Okay, well, even if you did catch us, you don't wanna do anything about it 'cause otherwise we'll burn the house down, right?" So, th-there's this just unwillingness to ever be accountable for that which is wrong, while lashing out as if they are the strong aggressor, even when they're just as weak and, and seemingly incapable and incompetent as can be.↗

3:56:18@anaescobarshowYeah, you know, it's this, it's this, the, what do they say, the Jew cries while he strikes you? Isn't that, I don't know, who, who said that is, but- Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly↗

3:56:27@malleusigwhat it is. Right. He cries out in pain as he strikes you.↗

3:56:30@anaescobarshowYeah, thank you. And it's, it's just, it's sick because realistically, they're very aware of how much they've lost the plot, how much they've lost the American people, and so now we're getting to the threat stage, right? This is Start with carrot, I guess, to, to the powers that be, to the media, to the people in power. And unfortunately, once the jig is up, then this, then they have to go to stick, right? And so it's unfortunate, I mean, for people to have to deal with this at any point, but that's why it's like righteous anger, I think, is justified at this point. That's just my opinion.↗

3:57:13Ian MalcolmNo, I think that's exactly right. And, with that, let's go to Mr. Gottfried.↗

3:57:18@g0dfr0yyeah, I, I just have a question, about, well, I was gonna ask a different question, but I'll, I'll ask this question. Like this is why I have a different view of, of Trump than, than you do, is because of things like the Epstein binder gate incident, where he had the influencers come out and essentially pimp binders to the American people, almost in a mocking way. And I bring that up because I'm going to ask about the Shlomo Pearl tweet. That to me was the most disrespectful, almost dancing on Charlie's grave kind of tweet. That I just, I think it really, really rubbed Americans the wrong way, and it seemed like a sick troll to me.↗

3:58:05@g0dfr0yyou know, until I am proven otherwise, I think that Donald Trump is a willing familiar to, to these people. He is, he's been in on this for thirty years. He's a thirty-year Mossad play into the White House, and he was more than willing to help them. You know, when you see that clip of him talking to Barbara Walters in the- 80s about going to war with Iran, it's like, wait a second, now, now I'm starting to get it, now, I'm starting to get it. And then you think about like his time on The Apprentice, was that prepping his celebrity persona for the White House, right? So my question to you is simple, what do you think of that tweet, the Shlomo Perl tweet, and do you think that Donald Trump- Was actively involved with Charlie's assassination, and I, I'm sorry to ask this, but I have to, do you think he took a sick pleasure in Charlie being taken out?↗

3:58:59@anaescobarshowOh, I don't wanna even think about that, to be honest with you. I mean, the unfortunate thing is Donald Trump lost his soul a long time ago, right? And we know that. We, we know that he sold out, and he sold this country out, and I think that he would sell literally his own daughter to the Kushner family. Like, there's really nothing that he wouldn't do. I guess, just-- I just wanna clarify, the reason that I have this question about whether there's some hostage in play, I don't think it's because he cares about the American people. I think it's that he cares about his legacy, and if he was the president who let something like that Happen on his watch that he thinks that that would paint him in a negative light. I don't think it's because he cares about us, although I wish, you know, he did, given he's the president and everything. As far as Charlie goes, you know, when Charlie was there in June, in the White House Arguing with Trump, well, not arguing, but convincing Trump not to go to war with Iran, right? And apparently at that time↗

4:00:00Speaker 22he was considered to be successful, given that it was only that limited bombing campaign at a twelve-day war that was the result of it, and that was done, I guess, you know, in a way that wasn't quite as evil as this go-around, right? But it has occurred to me a lot that Donald Trump very much- Probably didn't like that, and he probably had a lot of Israeli or Zionist influence in his ear afterwards saying that, "How dare Charlie have, you know, taken this stand and made him look weak, et cetera, et cetera." I mean, we know the kind of pressure that these people put on. And I wouldn't put it past him. I mean, that's where I'm at at this point. You know, when we think about the fact that Butler may or may not have been something that was staged with the help and coordination of Trump to take out Corey Comba Tori, I mean, that's remarkable information that I hadn't really explored, but I know that Candace and Barron have really done an amazing job with it over the past several days. If anyone hasn't heard about that, you guys should definitely go listen to either Barron or Candace has touched on it, but, I hope no one that he wouldn't sell out as long as it keeps him in power and as long as it keeps him out of jail and keeps his family getting richer. I sick about it, that makes me sick to my stomach to think about. But whether he greenlit it or not, that's a different question.↗

4:01:22@g0dfr0yGotcha. Yeah. I, I don't know if he greenlit it, but it, it is my firm belief that he knew, he full well He was fully briefed on the assassination and was coordinating with Netanyahu. And the thing about Trump that I've noticed is he gets livid when he is asked about Epstein, like when that reporter asked him, he goes, "Why are you still talking about Epstein?" When he diverted the conversation like that and the look of anger on his face and the, the vitriol that he has for Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massie and like, you know, when Marjorie Taylor Greene- Basically said in so many words, like her, she thought her son was being threatened, right? And I believe Marjorie Taylor Green, I fully believe her, I don't think she's a liar. And, and I think maybe there's some stuff she's not even telling us, maybe that was just all she felt safe to say. You start to see a pattern with this guy, and it's like, he demands absolute fealty. He wants to be worshipped like a god, and that's why I think that he, he was actively involved. And look, I hope to be proven wrong. I hope that's not the case, because that is a very dark situation. But yeah, great thoughts, Anna, as always, and, yeah, I really appreciate it.↗

4:02:44Speaker 23I just wanna read the list, the final list of hands, so no one raises their hand again as we're gonna be closing out the space. Duchess, Doctor Strange, Patriot, Ronnie, and Amaru. It looks like Duchess dropped it, would. It's a shame 'cause I believe she's spoken in a few of our spaces before, would've been nice to hear.↗

4:03:04Speaker 23so Ian or Anna, if you have any response to that, if not, we'll get to Doctor Strange.↗

4:03:09@malleusigCan I just, let you guys know I found the clip and I can play it anytime?↗

4:03:13Ian MalcolmYeah, go for it. And, and also, I see we have, I think Dilegant might be in the listener panel, and if so, I just wanna give him, kudos for all of the content he's been putting out and, and also for this conversation, Rabbi, that you referenced.↗

4:03:25@malleusigOkay, awesome. Okay, here we go.↗

4:03:27Speaker 24With what really Israel is, what is our goals? And who cre- You know, the way we got established, who established us? See, people who came out of the ovens of Auschwitz after the Holocaust had one very famous saying. We said, "Mitzvahda won't never fall again," and it won't. I mean, Trump says he saved Israel, he saved Israel, Israel was eliminated, if that, that, that, that, that, that, fine, you know, eighty years old, is, isn't idle. We look at the good deed they did to us, we are very thankful.↗

4:04:15Speaker 24But, and you know, he takes credit for Solomani, which we did most of the work, and he just, i-i switched the, the credits. We were supposed to do it, but he went ahead, and then he said Israel didn't wanna do it with me. Fine, you know, all of this is great. release the pressure, it's fine, open our moods, lower the gas, get the stock market going up,↗

4:04:46Speaker 24it's all fine with us. But don't forget one thing. I'll give you an example, diligent. The helmets of the jet fighters pilots, we make them, all over the world. The F-22 All those helmets that the pilots put over their head, we make them. The software is ours. This is only one item.↗

4:05:17Speaker 24Now, I don't wanna say don't fuck up with Israel, because if really, if really America wants to fuck up with us, it will get fucked first. And I know your concerns, I heard you. And I heard you're kind of validating↗

4:05:33Speaker 25my concerns, but continue.↗

4:05:36Speaker 24I'm validating your concern, of course. I am. And I told you that you didn't even scratch the surface of what we are capable. Forget about the American Jews, forget about the evangelists, eighty, eighty millions of them. Just us, ten million people sitting in a tiny piece of land the size of New Jersey, man. Masaada will never fall again.↗

4:06:04@malleusigAnd we'll stop it there, but that's-- So the message is, don't fuck with Israel, you'll get fucked first. We make the helmets that your fighter pilots wear, and Masada will never fall again. That sounds like a threat to me, guys, I'm sorry. Doesn't sound like our ally, does it? I don't think it sounds like an ally.↗

4:06:24Speaker 22Well, you guys know that, in 2020, there was, it was an F-35, but at Elgin Air Force Base, back in 2020, a fighter pilot crashed, and after the investigation, it was determined that it was because of some sort of cyberattack on his helmet, which are very specialized, you know, they show the screen, it's all, it's all Computerized, right? And so the findings on that crash, you guys can look it up, it's Elgin Air Force Base, but the pilot had to fight for a long time, to get the story out because someone, something had messed with his helmet display and that caused that crash. So I doubt very much that they're lying, like I think that they're telling the truth about a lot of shit like that, and that's the thing I've looked at, yeah, for a long time, I'm really worried about it.↗

4:07:16Speaker 23Alright, Dr. Strange, thank you so much for your patience. Go ahead.↗

4:07:24Speaker 26Hi, folks. thanks for giving me the mic. Great space as usual, and it's good hearing from Anna for the first time. I've not heard of, I, I'd not heard her in the past. So good to hear from her, and also good to hear from Adam. I don't know what happened to him, but it's been a while since I've seen him or heard from him.↗

4:07:45Speaker 26Ian, I don't think anybody can deny that your commitment to fight for our freedom and our cou-our country is commendable, and it's been going on for at least two years. I remember doing a space with you a couple years ago on the effects of primary and how that was the secret weapon of a lot of these essentially- Getting, getting, politicians in through the primaries, and then we saw what happened with, with Nancy recently. So again, love the topic,↗

4:08:19Speaker 26on Zio propaganda. This is an area I've actually studied academically, 'cause I'd done my master's in political psychology a while back ago. I want to start off with a quick tidbit of information on at least recent propaganda that we were exposed to for about two decades. in 2002, Donald Rumsfeld created the Office of Strategic Influence. They brought together public affairs and psychological operations.↗

4:08:48Speaker 26Later people called it propaganda, but at that time they were pushing it as winning hearts and minds. They hired twenty-seven thousand journalists in the US who would write glowing stories about the war on cable TV, radio, print media, but they never told anybody that they, they were actually Pentagon staff. So every time a bomb went off, they had a story almost out Out there before it exploded, saying that, "Oh, it killed fifteen innocent civilians." And billions were spent on winning the hearts and minds of Americans.↗

4:09:25Speaker 26which is a-- one, this isn't allowed legally because the military shouldn't be propagandizing wars, but ultimately it was, To support wars that o-ultimately benefited the w-uh, weapons industry, the Greater Israel project, the private contractors, and the special interest group, right? In two thousand and nine alone, they spent about four point seven billion dollars, and this went on for many years afterwards. And it took like a year-long investigation with a number of FOIA's to be able to get this information. Now, the entire objective was to really manufacture fear and hate and push the "Forever Wars,"↗

4:10:11Speaker 26to essentially also take away your civil liberties, get support for bigger and bigger military budgets, and at the end of it, we're left with thirty-eight, thirty-nine trillion dollars of debt and nothing to show for it, other than what-- other than the weapons industry growing even bigger, and of course, Israel benefiting from it. So I, I wanted to make sure that that's taken into consideration before I get to my next point, because this has been going on, this war propaganda was going on for a long time.↗

4:10:45Speaker 26now if you know this recently, many of the Zionists come into these spaces, and there's an army of also, also social media influencers, and they all have the same strategy, the same talking points. The strategy is to redirect the discussion away from Israel and to terrorism, or nine eleven, Muslims, Sharia taking over. That's their strategy, and oftentimes, sometimes we fall for it. So because they know that Israel's not defen- they can't defend Israel, it's indefensible, it's too out in the open. That, that's very, it's hard to defend at this point.↗

4:11:29Speaker 26But they know that if they can trigger our fears and hate towards that other group that we've been conditioned to hate and fear for decades because of the global war on terror Then they've got us. Then they can-- I've seen this over and over in various places where they come in and basically redirect the conversation about, you know, Muslim terrorists, because they wanna create this dichotomy that if you don't support Israel, Israel, you're essentially supporting Muslim terrorists, and you're with the Muslim terrorists. And I, I believe that we had that incident, this incident in diligent space today. The guy came in and started redirecting the conversation to nine eleven, and that, sadly enough for him, it backfired because we went into nine eleven, and then we, we found out that some of the hijackers were linked to Mossad, and it went into a completely different direction. Now, the only other thing, point- I wanted to mention, and I'm gonna land on this, Hararets published an article a couple, I think two years ago.↗

4:12:45Speaker 26yep, two years ago, that Israel has decided to pursue a social media campaign, a anti-Muslim, Islam campaign, because that's the only way to win over Americans. And there was a leaked report By, a PR agency leaked the report, where the report goes into details w-uh, how Israel funded re- An Israeli funded research concluded how rise in anti-Muslim, anti-Islam content in the West leads to a rise in support for Israel. And in three countries, pumping anti-Islam, anti-Muslim content via social media led to a twenty point increase in support for Israel. So I bring this up because I foresee Israel in a desperate situation, and I believe they're gonna one, misdirect As much as they can, and they're gonna pump as much,↗

4:13:46Speaker 26as much hate as you can possibly imagine to redirect our attention on The Muslim terrorists. And in addition, I'm worried about false flags at this point, because this level of desperation is unheard of. I've never seen it at that point. I'd love to get Anna's perspective on this, especially on the false flag element of it, as well as, anybody else who'd like to chime in.↗

4:14:14Speaker 22Yeah, thanks for that. that is my primary concern right now, you know, and I think a lot of Americans aren't there yet, and I think they need to be. So that's why spaces like this are so important, that's why it's talking to each other openly, honestly, it's so important because they do reveal themselves, right? Just like that guy did on that space, but I think it's more pervasive and it's more of a concern than it's probably been in the past twenty-five years. I mean, you know, the thing about- Larry Lumer, tweeting about, you know, this ten times worse than nine eleven. Yes, she's an insider, she's also a crazy person. So, you know, we have to remember the fact that she could just be saying anything to try to do more of that stick and just try to, you know, stir up fear, do a little mesticast, or I guess it's not, but, you know, just do a little terrorizing, I guess, not terrorism. but realistically, this is a serious concern, and it should be in this country because- The more desperate and the more cornered they become, then the more likely it is that they're going to do something totally irrational. I did, just send you, Ian, a, a link to an article that I was hoping you could pop into the pill for me, about the fact that, you know, Russia did just seize a number of boots that were destined for their troops that were all booby-trapped, you know, and so They are absolutely, and we know about Ukraine, I don't even need to say it. So↗

4:15:44Speaker 22they are becoming increasingly bold, and I think that part of that is fear, but part of that is hubris. But they're more dangerous than they've ever been. So that's my number one concern.↗

4:15:59Speaker 23Ian, any↗

4:15:59Ian Malcolmresponse?↗

4:16:03Ian Malcolmwell, two things. Number one, Anna, in the, the, the bottom, it should be right-hand side of the screen, I think. It should have that little purple pill, and we-- you should be able to copy-paste that in. But I was also gonna set up a, a little group chat if, if you didn't wanna send it over and see if we can get that, added in, by one of the co-hosts. But, no, the, the, the one thing that you really said that And behave more and more, erratically, right? And we were talking earlier about this,↗

4:16:38Ian Malcolmthe, the, the cry out in pain as they strike you kind of concept, and for the person to basically say in diligent space, "Oh, okay, you figured out what's going on. Well, let's not forget about our technology and your pilot's helmets that, oh, something bad could happen, right?" I think it was Rabbi who said, "Oh, it's a nice home, be a shame if something happened to it, right?" a-and they're just so I believe that it's a result of cultural or perhaps genetic hubris that it's almost, you know, they're, they're almost incapable. doesn't mean all people do anything, right? But there is this very persistent pattern. and, and for, as the last little comment, two things. Number one, the cornered snake is the most dangerous Right? Actually, to stick with the snake analogy, by the way, the younger snakes are the most dangerous of the snakes, whether it's cornered or not, because they're too ignorant to know that they should conserve their venom. Right, so if you get bit by a, a, a young juvenile snake, it hasn't learned, "Oh, if I, if I give all my venom to this thing, if I get attacked again in five minutes, I won't have anything left." Right? So they will expel all of the poison when they bite something, right? And I, I feel like that is what this group is doing. They only know to just exalt All of the hatred, all of the animosity, let's spew all of the nastiness, right? And, and so they're doing this as they're being kind of cornered, and, and, and ultimately it's, it's gonna be the Achilles' heel, right? Is this complete lack of self-awareness. They're doing themselves no favors, but they can't even recognize that that's the reality of it. So, yeah, I, I, I think this is the inevitable outcome. More people recognizing them being more dangerous, right? And so we, we just need↗

4:18:28Ian MalcolmIn the frame of mind that we always have been, but, let's go to Mr. Raed.↗

4:18:33Speaker 27Perfect, thank you so much, because I want, I don't wanna bring back the subject, so, today I was also in, in that space, and, Gholz, Herzl, and it is fascinating that I think, so, so, so the persona that, that, that Talmudic tribal persona, first, first, it is They, they, they try to manipulate you by, by, emotionally manipu- emotional manipulation, we are the victim, oh my god, and then by, we look how friendly we are, we love you, we love you, right? And then, and then if you push back, they start the kvetching, and, and then the more kvetching, and then the more you push back, they, they, they become more in your face everywhere. And then if, if that stops working, they insinuate threats. Then If that didn't work, they will threaten you right out flat. That, that's the, that's the persona, and I, I know it very well because I've been at this for a long time. But it was crazy in that space where that guy, and that diligent, so diligent, I mean, good on him, God bless him, he's catching on, but he's still, yeah, it's a lot for him, but he's catching on, right? So he says, so that's how that, that guy,↗

4:19:54Speaker 27Forgot the name, anyway. So tell, he tells diligent, look, we have your central nervous system in our hand Now, diligent thought, he's talking about these three cl-clauses in laws, related to the NDA and the Tom Cotton one with the Mossad and CIA, et cetera. so he says, "Yeah, well, that's why we're pushing back because we don't want to, to have it." But, but didn't understand what, but having done, you know, I understand exactly what, what he means, and I, yeah, and I sent you the information and David as well. Not gonna talk about it much here, but basically what he's describing is, more along the lines of the helmets, but, it's, it's more, if you will, I don't want, I don't wanna scare people because, you know, the, the whole thing is about scaring and intimidation. And the- And the right reply and answer and stance is, yeah, excuse my language, like fuck you, shove that helmet up your ass, you're going down sooner or later, good luck, do what you can, you know, we say in Arabic, can you ride your highest, fastest horse and let's see what happens. So you, you put the challenge back to them because, they, you know, you shouldn't get intimidated. But yeah, they're, this is where they are, and I think the tone, that tone, so for him to reveal that kind of- thing, you know,↗

4:21:27Speaker 27there's a green light, and I think that, that green light has come from Netanyahu. So, alright, let's put everyone in their place. I, I think the threatening tone is, is from top down, 'cause otherwise they won't review-- I've never heard them any saying any, and I've been known about this thing for at least, since 2016. So I sent you the, the, the information. Maybe we do, you do a space about it. It's very important to un- Back, there's a lot there, but yeah, these people now are resorting to threats. That tells you, right, what does that signify? What does that say? That they, they are losing the grip on the American public opinion, and they are freaking out. They are freaking out, and they're so-- That's why I always say, these people are smart, but they're really not wise. Like you said with the venom and the, and the young snake, they have no wisdom. It's like- Really, do you think threatening them is gonna, is gonna bring you something? It's like with us when, when they, they, they, they, they threw toys in, guys, they threw toys in the southern Lebanon, little footballs, little dolls, little train, a, a little truck, they're all booby trapped. Why? Because families are going back to the south, and then the children would be running outside, they'll see a little ball, they pick it up, it explodes. But their lack of wisdom Is that that kid, that three or five year old that you're gonna kill, you, you're gonna have at least three or four adult men between his parents, his cousin, his uncle, vowing, vowing to bring you down, no matter if it's last thing they do in their lifetime, and they've been doing this Since 1948, and the result is very clear, they're going down. But this is their lack of wisdom because they're so vile and hateful. It's like, what will you get if a child dies? If, if you're, if you're really, if you wanna be pragmatic, right? Why kill that child and create ten Hezbollah fighters? Like, they're not wise, their vile nature makes them dumb, and their dumb, their low, low IQ, as Ian has proven actually with his work. Thank you guys.↗

4:23:43Ian MalcolmNo, and, and you know what's-- So one of the things to keep in mind here from that, and, and this has to do with individuals that are starting to connect these dots, right? I, I always suggest that we should always be open-handed to anybody that's open ears, right? a-and the irony is once you start to connect the dots and then you start to have, especially if you have these conversations on the internet, right? And these people come into the rooms and they try and demand the things that you're noticing aren't happening Happening, and you're like, "But I see it," and then they lie, and then you're like, "Okay, let me demonstrate why I think this is the case," and then they deflect, right? And then they, they keep running in circles, as, as we know, this idea of Pilpel. And the reason that I bring it up is because I think what ultimately can happen is those of us that have seen this at RIDE, you've seen it your entire life, right? You're well aware. So when somebody comes along and they say, "I don't↗

4:24:41Ian MalcolmAnd flagrant. But for those that haven't, right? That, that, that don't, they can actually get pushed away because we are so convicted of our position that we ultimately can become emotional. And then the irony is, once they start going down the path with us, like, think about this. So diligent had this conversation with this guy. He was like, "Hey, it looks like this is a problem." The, the guy's decision was to say, "Well, let me threaten you," and as if that's gonna change his mind, right? So all it does is it fur Diligence, not only awareness, but now he also probably looks at some of the ways that we talk about these issues a little bit more forcefully, and he's like, "Guys, I get it, like, I didn't know they were gonna threaten our own military because we started suggesting that they don't get to control it." But that's just, that's the behavior, right? So it's all very erratic. Again, not everybody or anything, but, these, these patterns are very persistent. The lying, the deflecting, the dodging, and, and right into- Your comment. So earlier, I was called by a guy in the space. He said I'm a serial liar. And so I paused him and I said, "Where have I ever lied? " "Uh, you're a liar. " "Can you give me a single example of a lie? " "And not one. " And I even responded to him, I said, "I can tell you Jeffrey Dahmer is a serial killer, 'cause I can tell you about multiple victims that he murdered. Can you give me one lie? " And all the people listening had to watch as this person just dance, tap, danced around, and it's the, I think David's comment, right? He talked about this idea of, you can, you can dance all you want, but it doesn't matter, we see the obvious. So that's why I think it's so critical that we always just call people out very directly, stop, hang on. Address this question. Don't talk about anything else. Address this one question, right? And when you force that over and over and over again, it just exposes how silly it is. Da-David, I think, before we go to Rabbi, I think you call it the monkey dance. Is that right?↗

4:26:43Speaker 28Exactly. And remember, he who posits must defend. Every tyrannical force in history has as its main ally, lies. Yes, lies and intimidation. So make people defend the exact point they made, don't let them out of that box.↗

4:27:00Speaker 27And if I made ten seconds or even less, I have to give it, hats off to, to diligent. I, I respect the guy. The guy's reply was, "Look, dude, this is about the freedom of my country and the sovereignty of my children, and nothing," he said it two times, "nothing, nothing will stop me." And that's, for me, that's dignity, and that's, that's good stuff. So yeah, yeah, shout out to, to that guy, the legend.↗

4:27:32Speaker 23And, I, I don't know how, how, how you wanna close the space out, Ian. I, I know you wanna get Rabbi. I sent you a message in the, I sent you a message. But, it would be Patriot, Ronnie, and Amaru, and then if you wanna add Rabbi, but that, that would be the final hands of the night.↗

4:27:49Ian MalcolmYeah, let's, let's do this to keep everything, tight and on, on point. So let's focus on the, bring it back to the TPUSA aspects, and, and then what we can do is let's go through everybody's hands with that subject. That way, when we come back to Anna, we can kinda get her, synthesis and closing remarks on that specific subject since that was the, the focus of the space. and then what we'll do is send everybody off to Mr. Truth Teller's room. I, I know he's gonna↗

4:28:17Speaker 23Sweet, sweet, great plan. Alright, Patriot, thank you so much for your patience. what are your thoughts on that topic?↗

4:28:25Speaker 29Hey, folks, great space. Ian, David, Christopher, and Anna, it's great to have you here. so, you know, the two hundred fiftieth, you know, quarter millennial anniversary of the, you know, the Great USA is coming up. and it's kind of ironic that, You know, America is kind of handing over their sovereignty in some ways to Israel with this merger of, I guess, military and the IC, right? The intelligence community.↗

4:28:58Speaker 29and that's one thing Charlie Kirk, you know, he, he, he would have been vehemently against, I think. So what are you guys' thoughts on that? Also, there's one other thing I'm not completely sure about this, but it's supposed to sunset apparently in twenty forty-eight, maybe? And that's a hundred years after the creation of Israel. Any thoughts there? And where do you see this? You said it's↗

4:29:20Speaker 23supposed to sunset? What do you mean? I'm confused. Maybe I'm not lacking the knowledge.↗

4:29:27Speaker 29Yeah, so pre- previously it was two two four, now it's two nineteen, and then I guess six two two. I'm not this, like, I'm not a hundred percent sure, but I heard somewhere that it's supposed to basically, like, it's only, up until twenty forty-eight. I don't know, maybe that's, that's not true, but that's fine if, even if it's not true. Kind of a moot point,↗

4:29:51Speaker 28right? I mean, by then it'd be over.↗

4:29:55Speaker 29Yeah, yeah. But, yeah, in regards to that legislation, like, it's, it seems inevitable it's gonna pass, right? And, So like, yeah, like, how do you guys feel about that and where, where that puts America?↗

4:30:10Speaker 28In a very bad place. And I encourage people to go to Diligent Space, he's covered it very well, because what we're talking about is giving them military techno sovereignty over America. So it's really scary, you know, I asked Rock, and I think, I think Diligent did a much better job of this. But I said, what could they do if they turned on us? What's the most damage they could do? Well, one of them is they'll have access to NSA data. So in other words, even more than they do now, if they want to target and intimidate any American or blackmail them, they'll know where you are,↗

4:30:46Speaker 28everything you do, again, even more than they do now. Edward Snowden kind of released all this in terms of the relationship between NSA data and the military. And so yes, it's very dark, very dangerous. I don't know for sure that it's going to pass. There's a little bit more of a groundswell thanks to the work of people like Dillinger, of it not passing, we'll just have to see. But between now and then, I recommend people go on his timeline and he's shown you sort of vulnerable or quasi-vulnerable, maybe amenable is a better word, congressman that you can call, and believe me, it's worth it, call and just sort of like, you know, give him the business on I don't understand why we have to have this debate. I don't understand why we↗

4:31:36Speaker 23have to↗

4:31:43Ian Malcolmhave this debate.↗

4:31:51Speaker 22No, I couldn't agree more. And they've tried to, you know, rename it as two nineteen or whatever. We, we all know that it's still in there. We all know that it's part of their, you know, master plan. They act like they want to, you know, separate themselves from us as though they're-- This is some sign of their independence. No, it's just a new tactic for control 'cause they know that the American taxpayer is done with the handouts. Unfortunately, they are not capable of behaving like rational actors, and that's, you know, where Concerns come from, for example, they have resumed bombing Beirut as of just a few minutes ago. So I understand very much wanting to get over to Truth Teller's space. I actually, in fact, myself would love to get over there because I am concerned right now. as well as it turns out that Donald Trump is heading to, Camp David this weekend. He hasn't been there since June of twenty twenty-five, and that was immediately prior to that last bombing campaign, as well as it looks like Like there's some activity with, communications with our nuclear submarines, so it feels to me like something is happening, and so I think that it might be time to focus on that, but I'm very, very grateful to have shared this space with you guys. This has been so, so really wonderful for me, and, I really appreciate knowing how many, how many incredible people are out there who have been fighting this fight, you know? I'm really, really grateful Greatful to have been able to share that with you guys.↗

4:33:24Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And, and Christopher, in that, to that end and with that suggestion, why don't we go through a, a couple more hands and, and again, be a little bit, speedy here, and, and then what we can do, we will have a mass exodus, and we'll have everyone encouraged to go over to Mr. Truth Teller's space. We'll, we'll give him a massive amount of support, and, I think combining the two spaces will be at something like↗

4:33:51Ian MalcolmStrong. And so again, kind of building out this, this base of support for, for that which is merely truth, and Anna, you're an absolute, superstar towards such. But, but Krista, let's go through the rest of the hands here, and then we'll come back up to, David for a prayer to send off the space.↗

4:34:07Speaker 23All right. Wonderful. we got Ronnie and Amaru, and then, I didn't know if, you wanted to let Rabbi speak. He added his hand after we already came↗

4:34:21Speaker 25Yeah, I'm actually gonna keep it super quick so that you guys can go ahead and get other hands in. So, I just joined, I, I joined late, I'm sorry. I appreciate Ian, David, you, Christopher, I mean, all of you guys are beautiful, I love you guys. So, I just wanted to, reiterate on diligence, space. I'm glad that he's here. he should be in bed, but apparently he's here. But Ian, when you left, everybody started talking shit about you ran, running away and stuff. But I don't know if anybody else was privy, but you posted on Bastamatic,↗

4:35:03Speaker 25you know, his comment talking about you only had thirty minutes and then you had to leave. So, you know, when, when you left Billy stuck up for you, he didn't let anybody talk shit about you, and that's the community that we have here. We are all here together, we are all sticking together, and, you know, it's just, it's a beautiful community that we have, and I'm glad that we're all in this together, and, you know, when, when You had to leave all the usual suspects were toting about, "Oh, Ian's running away." It was, it was actually hilarious, but I'm glad that Billy and Bastinatik are both in this space to back up, to back my claims up. So we can move on to everybody else. I'm, I'm just, I'm glad that we're all in this together.↗

4:36:02Ian MalcolmRonnie, all, all I can say on that is, is, how do I say, "small people scream big things." Oh, look how strong I am! And isn't it, isn't it funny? the reason they do that is because they're insecure. 'cause they know they get bested every conversation that we have. I, look, there's some smart people that are out there, I, I will say, who, who would I give the most-- you know, who I'd give the most credit to would be of↗

4:36:32Ian MalcolmAs frustrating as Yates can be, right? He at least comes in, he's reasonably polite, he doesn't just throw around a whole bunch of nonsense. The ones that do, it's because they know they can't stand on any logic or reason, right? The guy, he said, "You're a serial liar. Give me one." I asked for bullets, I said, "Can you give me three bullets?" That, that wasn't gonna- I said, "Can you give me one?" And the, the one that he came up with, diligent, in case you heard this, he goes, "You said that, Facebook was connected to DARPA." actually what I said is the day that LifeLog, which you're all welcome to go to Grok and ask about, LifeLog, which was a government database that was going to try and track all available digital photographs, whereabouts, geolocation data, and all sorts of other things that, oh, I don't know, literally became Facebook Facebook, right? If you go to the funding of LifeLog, what do you know? It's DARPA, the Advanced Research Program of the US government. So to suggest that there's no tie between those two things, you just- It's just another coincidence, guys.↗

4:37:44Speaker 28Yeah. And the day that program went-- the day they sunsetted that program, they shut it down, the next day, Facebook opened.↗

4:37:51Ian MalcolmIt wasn't even the next, it was the same day. On the same day. Okay. It was the-- I forget, I tweeted this out, yeah. It was the fourth of February, two thousand four, if I, if I'm remembering correctly. And it was↗

4:38:00Speaker 28everything that the DARPA thing described it to be. It was every single thing. Like it was just, it was-- that was basically a description of↗

4:38:08Ian MalcolmAnd you know what, David, the, the, "Methinks the lady doth protest too much." Any time they take something and via Hollywood, they push a very specific narrative to reinforce the mainstream understanding of something, you should look at it and be like, "Well, that's, that's a little weird," which is exactly what you got via the social network starring a Jew portraying Mark Zuckerberg, a Jew, and telling this story, oh Oh yeah, it's just this, this little nerdy guy in college who came up with this idea. Come on, people. So anyway, he's, the, the, the quote-unquote lie there. I'm sorry, Masad, Mike, you're, o for, it's not even o for one, you're o for six million at this point. So next time, you're a serial something, at least be able to give an example, just one time, of the thing you're suggesting somebody is serially doing. but then again- And, lies, methinks again, the, the projection, right? It's, the accusation is always the, the admission. But anyway, back, let's, let's go. Thank you for those, those words, Ronnie. I, I think Christopher, you said, Emira's next.↗

4:39:25Speaker 23Yes, Amiro, and I'll go ahead and give my, my final thoughts of the night, because I imagine after Miro, you'll have, you know, I will have a response, and then, like you said, we'll let David close it out with the prayer. and I just want to clarify,↗

4:39:36Ian Malcolmwe're gonna give you the prayer, we're gonna give David the parting, words of, of affirmation to make sure we get both.↗

4:39:43Speaker 23Oh, okay, well, that's very kind of you. thank you so much,↗

4:39:49Speaker 23Anna, for,↗

4:39:54Speaker 23And so I do mean that, you, you sound very intelligent, and, we really appreciate you joining us and sharing a lot of the information and some of the subtle, subtleties of the topic that, a lot of us aren't familiar with. And, we appreciate all the speakers, and I'm so thankful, to you, Ian, for allowing me to co-host. It's always a blast, it's always a blessing to be with you.↗

4:40:18Speaker 23yes, Amaru, go ahead, please.↗

4:40:27@amirkahhhhhhAmir gonna want.↗

4:40:32Ian MalcolmHe's trying to.↗

4:40:34Speaker 25Yeah, he's having a problem with his mic.↗

4:40:40Ian MalcolmMiro, I will try to, to recycle you, and, while we're waiting for that to take place, Rabbi, did you wanna jump in really quickly while we get a Miro?↗

4:40:50@malleusigYeah, sure, sure. I'm just gonna make a comment to, I think what someone said earlier about the, Herzl, it comes in the space, I don't know if it was Raya or David, but, I wanna point out the fact that the Jews are so quick to jump to coercion Once they realize we can't be twaddled by their abuse of our language, means they see us as a thing to be worked around instead of as people. If we were people to them, they would at least try to reason with us. But can you think of a time this ever happened? I can't. I can't think of one time where a Jewish person has actually tried to reason with me in good faith and hasn't resorted to some kind of like logical fallacy manipulation. There's no conclusion we can come to other than that they see us not as people to be lived among, but as↗

4:41:30@malleusigAnd once we realize this, it's typically when shit goes down historically, and this stage directly precedes a surprising number of economic golden ages, so I am cautiously optimistic at this point.↗

4:41:43Speaker 23That's one of the things, you just reminded me of one of the things I wanted to bring up, is that I've been in a, in a plenty of spaces, and Jews will come in there, they'll request to speak, and they'll argue in circles, they'll sub- they'll, be subversive and change the conversation, and they'll take over and dominate that. But when I've been in any of Ian's spaces, Jews are afraid of Ian's spaces. They don't even come and challenge, they don't even come and do anything. And I'm Put up with it, I wouldn't put up with it either. I've been in people's spaces and say, "Listen, we need to drop, drop this guy," and there's hosts that will just let a Jew keep talking, and I'm like, "We're wasting time with this Jew." So Ian does not put up with the shenanigans, and I, and I'm, I'm so happy that, that he, that he stands his ground because you can really have productive conversations with Ian in here.↗

4:42:32Ian MalcolmNo, and, and Christopher, for, for what it's worth, for anybody↗

4:42:42Ian MalcolmAnd once, once they try to veer off into the pilpil, you just hit the mute button. You say, "Oh, okay. You must have misunderstood me. Can you give me an example of a lie?" And then you unmute them. Well, let me-- No, again, mute. We're gonna go back to the-- We're gonna play this game over again. I will keep asking you this specific question until you acknowledge that either the thing you said is wrong or we demonstrate that I am perhaps correct. Either way, we're not gonna go off of this. And then normally Run out of the room 'cause they can't admit that they're just wrong about things. It's, it's, it's remarkable. So for anybody that wants to play that game, that is the way to do it. Don't allow people to d- derail or to, let's say, to, to project the nonsense. You just gotta be very, very specific. Don't let them deflect.↗

4:43:32@amirkahhhhhhI'm trying to come in here. Can you guys hear me at all? Ahmud, is that you? Yes, we can. Oh, great. so I w- I wanted to agree with Anna about Trump potentially being a hostage. I, my intuition tells me that. Of course, we don't really know what's going on, but for sure they're using the Epstein files to, to coerce him to do things. It's not like he wants- he is a man-child, you know, Godfrey was talking about how- He wants complete loyalty. I, I think of him as a spoiled rich kid that thinks everyone should be a butler and a maid because all his life that's probably what he had.↗

4:44:13@amirkahhhhhhand of course, Bibi Netanyahu and, and Israel in general, Jews in general aren't acting like this. so just by him being a vengeful man-child, I think if he gets an opportunity to fight Israel, that he might, he might take it. That's why I say, hey, do it and then go to prison for being a pedophile. But, if we're The Jews are more evil than, than Trump, which is a weird thing to say.↗

4:44:38@amirkahhhhhhbut about TP USA, I wanted to say one thing where they were trying to pin it on the left, right? And I don't know if you guys remember, but, you know, shills like groups of TikTok were saying, you know, they were kind of screaming about civil war and shit, like they were trying to s- like stoke the flames, so it's possible that they wanted to leverage that to-↗

4:44:56@amirkahhhhhhCreate like maybe more tension, maybe potentially a civil war, and if that's what they planned for and that didn't happen, then we successfully thwarted that. And, you know, maybe by killing Charlie, you know, 'cause to give him credit, like I think he's a goober. And, you know, he's a Zionist, and I disagreed with a lot of the things that he said, but at the end, he was just waking up, and he sounded like a average American that I've heard many times, like the process, the thought process, the realizations. And to his credit, he did say that they were ethnically cleansing Gaza, so he didn't say the words genocide, but that's what it means. so if he was to get a lot of the people on the right to turn, that would mean the whole, all of America would have turned on Israel because the initial response from the left after October seven,↗

4:45:42@amirkahhhhhhwas so intense, and then to have the right also react that way at that time would have been maybe too much, so they would sacrifice him. But it's possible by doing that they actually accelerated it like idiots. And, you know, to get into the psychology of Jewish supremacists typically, like they- You know, I, I forget how you say it, Nietzsche, 'cause you always, you're more graceful than I am. But, you were talking about how,↗

4:46:11Speaker 28outgroup psychopathy?↗

4:46:14@amirkahhhhhhNo, not outgroup psychopathy. about how the brain is designed to kind of help us understand reality, so anything that's against that It isn't good, but essentially, you know, truth versus lies, and, you know, Jews choose lies, and as a result, they're not, grounded in reality. So they're very hysterical and schizophrenic because, like, to actually think that they are better than other humans is, is laughable, but also like very wrong. So they're delusional people, and that's what we're seeing, I think.↗

4:46:47@amirkahhhhhhit's just proof of their belief system being, like- It's kind of like a mental illness, you know? What's interesting, I didn't know this was possible. I thought narcissism was a permanent trait. I know I'm lasting a bit, I'm gonna end this with this. Narcissism can actually be cured, and one of the first steps is self-awareness, which is really funny when you think about how narcissistic Jews are and how we're always talking about they lack self-awareness.↗

4:47:12@amirkahhhhhhit explains their behavior. But it's possible that it can be cured. But if, if a population acts like this for, you know, many generations, there can be evolutionary changes making them predisposed to be this way. And I always hope that it's not biological, that it's cultural. But at the very least, culturally, it, you know, functions essentially as like a mental illness.↗

4:47:34@amirkahhhhhhjust wanted to say that. What↗

4:47:35Speaker 28a wonderful thought. And Ian, I think in the future we should talk with Amaru about is Jewish supremacism delusional? And because this idea of if you teach your kids this, if it's-- if this contradiction in your consciousness is being sort of inculcated over, you know, your whole life and over generations, at what point does it become delusional where you just-- That's a very hard p- thing for a person to house. Two counterbalancing ideas. One of them is supremacism, even though you feel how your consciousness basically works similar to everyone else's, you're volitional, all that sort of thing. So this would be a good conversation to have in the future. That's a really interesting point.↗

4:48:22Ian MalcolmNo, it isn't. And, to that comment, forward it's worth really quickly, and then we'll go to Ryan for a, a real quick comment before we're gonna come back up to Anna for some parting remarks. We'll go to David for a moment of, of, of, of kind of reinforced positivity, and then we'll go to Christopher for a prayer to send us off, for the space to go visit Mr. Truth Tellers. But the one thing I would add, yes, narcissism can be cured to some extent. The↗

4:48:51Ian MalcolmSelf-awareness and the desire to change. The problem with the narcissist is that they believe themselves essentially infallible, and that's not exactly the, the, the real psychology of it for anybody that wants-- We could go do a whole space on it, but it's essentially, it is the fracturing of the persona at a very young age resulting in the creation of a shell. That is the way to think about it. So what that means is, I want everybody to visualize, imagine a really insecure, short, little, scrawny- Guy, and he says, "No, I am big and strong. I am the strongest that there's ever been." He tells himself that over and over and over again. He builds an entire persona on it with the desire for that persona to become himself. So maybe he becomes hyper-fixated on building himself up to be that thing, right? Maybe in this case, he builds big, strong muscles, right? But anytime he's gonna walk around somebody who's bigger and stronger and tougher, he's gonna feel insecure. Because in his mind, he told himself, "I'm the biggest, strongest guy," right? So it creates this very strange persona where two things happen. Number one, they've got a fake sense of self. They aren't authentic in the purest form of that word, right? So that shell then, it also becomes required for them to protect it at all costs. That shell is the most important thing to them, more important even than themselves. And the reason that I mention this is because what they then do is they will lash out at anybody that attacks the shell or pokes holes in it, and they will love bomb anybody that reaffirms it. Right? This is the psychology of a narcissist. Now imagine the person who has spent their entire life Building the shell, it is the most important thing to them, is to further the construction and the solidity of that shell. Now imagine them looking at themselves in the mirror and saying, "I'm not that thing." They can't do it. So yes, it is curable. It's extremely difficult, and people can go and maybe, maybe Rabbi and I, we should try to do a space, maybe with Rob, we can try and get somebody that's really deep in the weeds on this, right? But that is the biggest problem. It's also why, in my opinion, we see that manifested over and over and over again by the group of people that we're talking about, and when you start poking holes at their sense of self, their sense of chosen, their supposed high IQ, what do they do? They lash out, erratically. They can't handle it, they can't handle criticism. So that entire idea of narcissus, the person looking at themselves in the river, aren't I so beautiful? Yes, that is the narcissist, but the bigger piece is that it is the creation of that shell, and it's not just about aesthetics. That's a very-- it's, it, it, it's an oversimplification of the problem. So we'll have to do it based on that. Let's really quickly, we'll go to Raed, then we're gonna come back Back up to Anna, then we're gonna↗

4:51:54Speaker 27wrap everything up. Very quick. So yes, I think David and Ian, the, the question I had to answer for myself and did the work is it nature or nurture? Is it instilled in childhood or by now it is part of the DNA, mind you, alcoholism, for instance, get-is, is, is inherited in, in part, it's in the DNA, if you will, information. So, I, I, I'm gonna,↗

4:52:20Speaker 27I think it's nature by now. It's no more nurture, so it's not instilled in childhood, it's just part of the DNA information over the centuries, it's just, it's just nature, not nurture. But I think it's a good conversation. I'm glad I did the research alone, I would love to, to do it again, you know, with you and, and, you know, think out loud about it. Thanks.↗

4:52:42Ian MalcolmYeah, absolutely. So let's go back to, to Anna for a, a closing set of remarks, and then, we'll go over to Mr. David for some positivity, and then to Christopher for a prayer.↗

4:52:52Speaker 22Yeah, thanks. Thanks, Ian. And thank you guys, thank you everyone for listening and for- Participating in this conversation, this is so important, and, you know, I mean, just the same way that this conversation allowed us to engage in conversations about so many important topics, I really, truly believe that Charlie's story, that the corruption, that the control, and that all of the evil that's being done in the name of Zionism, in the name of the Jews, in the name of Israel, it really-- it came to an inflection point. That's my real, true belief, and that's why I think- I think that this conversation is so important because I think it's a way in to break through the noise. Ian, thank you for fighting the good fight. I know you've been at it for a very long time. Thank you so much for educating every normie. I myself, like, I listen to you all the time because it's so nice to hear from someone who has been doing this forever, who knows their stuff, and who won't give up fighting the good fight. So thank you so much to everyone who's been on the panel, who shared this evening. You guys are incredible, and the The merrier, like let's get everybody in here. Thank you guys for handling everything and everyone with care and for keeping the zios out, absolutely every time. Great job.↗

4:54:08Ian MalcolmNo, I love it, and, and we'll keep doing that. And, and, speaking of always banding together, we'll certainly do that with Mr. Truth Teller. I don't learn more about this subject from anybody on this app, than Mr. Truth Teller. He is, he's, he's the master's class in this subject, and he knows the history better than anybody. but when it comes to better than anybody, when it comes to this idea of philosophy, theology, I always love Mr. Nietzsche. He's always got such positive, such↗

4:54:37Ian MalcolmDavid, any thoughts, words of affirmation, then we'll go to Mr. Christopher for a prayer.↗

4:54:42Speaker 28Well, I love the space. And boy, if there's anything indicative of how the great awakening is happening, it's spaces like these. It's really-- Just think about the opposition. They're not just running out of steam, they're running out of thoughts. I mean, it's like an idiotocracy. Can-- imagine any one of us here on stage debating any one of them on a giant national public forum, it wouldn't be fair. It would, it would look really bad. But it really is just that, a great awakening, you know? Edmund Burke, who was, I think, a underrated philosopher, he said, "The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." And that delusion is going away. That delusion that Amaru talked about, it's going away as far as its power over the rest of us. It really is true that the truth is going to set us free. It is really true that the truth is setting us free, and it doesn't seem so much now that we're fighting in quiet desperation, because now that quietude is gone. It isn't a cacophony, and the great awakening is happening. I'm telling you, we don't see the dawn yet, but we feel it. We hear the birds chirp. And then it's gonna be more and more, and then it's gonna be a symphony. We see people calling out Jewish supremacy all over the place now. I can't wait to see what's gonna happen in the future. I know that the people that oppose us wish that they could wait, so I really look forward to us talking more in the next phase, the next one, absolutely, my friend.↗

4:56:11Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And, and David, it's always such a pleasure. As it is with everybody that's in here, I wanna give a, a big special shout out before we go to Mr. Christopher for that closing prayer. I just wanna thank the always wonderful Mr. Nietzsche, Christopher, who I'm gonna be doing, again, Christopher has signed up every Thursday, we'll have Christopher in here as, as the co-host alongside the always co-hostess with the mostess, Miss Joanne, the incomparable David Nietzsche, always such an absolute pleasure to have him. You in here. As it was with Anna Escobar, everybody should absolutely give her a huge follow. Does wonderful work, puts out fantastic content, both in terms of posts, also long form video content. Absolutely fantastic commentator. Hope to see you around a whole lot more in these spaces when you're available, Anna, and when you're not, we'll certainly be supporting all of the things that you're doing. I do, as always, I wanna give everybody out there a good morning, a good evening, a good afternoon, wherever you are in the world. God bless For everything that you are. Godspeed. We are going to continue winning, thanks to the wonderful voices like all those people that participated in this conversation today. Doesn't matter if you were speaking, if you were listening, if you're resharing, if you're taking some of the ideas, you share them in your community tomorrow, whether it's in person or in a digital format, it doesn't matter. Just do your part in whatever way that you can, whatever format you find most effective. Speaking of formats, I will be reformating myself going from this Into the listener role, I'm very excited to learn, as I was just mentioning for Mr. Truth teller, I will be in there, hope to see all of you there as well. And with that being said, let's turn it over to Mr. Christopher Woods. For those not familiar, he was the guy in the middle of town squares, in the middle of town hall, saying, "Hey guys, on COVID, I noticed this weird pattern." Proceeded to list off all of the Jews atop all of those companies in a day and age long before this was normalized Conversation on the internet. He's an absolute patriot, a hero, took a ton of flack from it, ran for political office, and through that, Mr. Christopher Woods, any closing remarks and prayers, my friend.↗

4:58:27Ian MalcolmOh no, Chris, are you with us?↗

4:58:32Speaker 28I think he's not. I think we just lost him.↗

4:58:37Ian MalcolmWell, a, a leaf in the wind, David, as you might be. And, and perhaps look, the, the leaf and the wind are all of us. We are all tumbling through this together, trying to make the world a better place 'cause it's very, very-- It's, it's a dark and trying time, but the sun, as Mr. Nietzsche mentioned, it is rising. The awareness to Jewish supremacy is becoming unavoidable for the masses, as it is, our message will continue to resonate, and I will continue to do anything- Doing everything I can just to bring these truths to the masses, because I sincerely believe that there's gonna be a whole-- two things. Number one, this is the problem of our era. It's the intellectual war that we all are called to fight, right? Because if we don't, then the, the future for our children, our progeny, their children, right, looks pretty bleak. And so I will continue to do everything I can in that regard. I'll also do it because David, as we both note, right, there is a lot of emotion behind this. A lot of people- That are very confused, as they start recognizing what's going on, they're very angry, and as we get that anger, that is an emotion that isn't gonna be over, overly help, helpful. We need to figure out how to triangulate all that energy behind something positive, which is the reconstruction of a better tomorrow, not the hatred or violence or kinetic anything against anybody. So we're gonna try and do the best that we can to, to focus that like a laser behind something positive. Christopher, are you, are you with us?↗

5:00:05Speaker 23Yeah, can you hear me?↗

5:00:06Ian MalcolmWe are. Alright, so with that, let's turn things over to Christopher for a closing prayer.↗

5:00:11Speaker 23Alright, thank you so much Heavenly Father for everything that you do for us. Thank you for watching over us. Thank you for the roof over our head and the food in our stomach, for family and friends. We ask you, God, that you continue to guide us and to lead us, to give us the courage, the discipline, the insight to fulfill your purpose that you've given us. We know that we weren't created by accident, but we were created with a purpose to make a positive difference in the world, to fight on your behalf, to fight evil, and to change the world for a better future. In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray, Amen.↗