Lost History: The ADL Origin

0:02Ian MalcolmOh man, everybody, welcome. This is going to be the space in which the, I suppose the non-co-host with not the, well, I guess I'd be the co-host with not the most is going to play second fiddle to the hostess with the most, is Ms. Jo Ann. Very excited to, essentially sit a little bit on the, the sidelines for this one. I'll play-- I was joking with her, I will play lifeguard. I'm very humbled. Blessed that we're gonna have two wonderful speakers here to unpack two very suppressed pieces of history. One that, Mr. Dilligen Denison, who is with us tonight, has dug into a little bit with the USS Liberty. The other, the founding of the ADL, the piece that has for decades suppressed Americans' ability to speak freely about certain topics, the origins of that story. And perhaps how the founding of the ADL ironically serves as a per-perfect microcosm for the lengths that a certain group will go to completely whitewash the, the sins of their own tribe, to maybe, maybe if I could use the term, to juwach the sins, right? In a day, in an era where, Tom Alexanderovich couldn't just flee back over to Israel where caught in a prostitution, pedophilic ring in, Las Vegas Right. So we will be digging into the lost history of both the USS Liberty as well as the founding of the ADL with both a surviving member of the USS Liberty, the hero that is Phil Turney, who was on the, steps of, of the Capitol with none other than Thomas Massie just last week, an absolute hero in and of himself, as well as the legacy of Mary Fagan, the unfortunate individual. Who lost her hands at the life of a pedophile and murderer who was also Jewish, who again, the, conviction of and the, let's say the, the, the trial of begot the ADL. So we've got literally a survivor of one story, the descendant of another. and Joanne, I am, I can say, I am familiar with "Sticks and Come Sail Away." What a wonderful song as we are going to sail away. On this voyage with this piece, of forgotten recent history and the subversion and suppression of the other,↗

2:41Ian Malcolmand, and as we do so, I, I have to be honest, I am only familiar with that song the way that I am because it was also made the, the butt end of a joke by another Jewish creation, which is Eric Cartman, who's saying "Come sail away" in his little, Cartman voice, whichever- Now and then we inject into, into these spaces. but it is a beautiful song, and were it not for that fact, I would have actually probably presumed that it was sung by a different '80s act, singer. Who put on, equally, let's say, what's the right term for it, dramatic, songs that almost belong on a stage, which I might have to inject in a future space. So we will certainly go to that. I am going to try and get Mr. Phil Turney up here. I see that he is with us. I don't know if he's having issues, technically speaking, but I know that we do have Steph up here, so perhaps she can let us know if, if Phil is having any technical issues. and if not,↗

3:47Ian Malcolmas we kind of again, we set sail on this voyage that I'm excited for all of you to come sail away with us on. So a wonderful song like "In Their Dreams."↗

3:56Speaker 1Why are you protecting↗

3:57Speaker 2fellow NAG superstar Child Target? Oh↗

3:59Speaker 3my God, Dustin, no.↗

4:02Speaker 2Dustin, Dustin, not the time.↗

4:05Speaker 3You might have to resend Phil, the mic just for him to accept, sometimes he, he misses that popping up, so.↗

4:13Ian MalcolmYep, just sent that, again to him. And, Dustin Nemos, you're welcome to throw commentary into the purple pill if you would like to spam the conversation, but you're certainly not gonna upset this voyage with a bunch of shenanigans, especially given the, the legacy and the honor of those that are going to be speaking therein. so sorry, we'll have to, we'll have to have the cafeteria food fight for another time, and, sorry that you don't like the way that we're gonna run the ship here, pun intended↗

4:43@joann_marieI know, Ian. Thank you so much for hosting and David for co-hosting and everybody for being here. And guys, please repost this page and follow Ian and, and David and Phil and Mar, and Mary and everybody here and the staff is also with us and everybody in the panel. So thank you so much, guys. And I don't know, would you-- Oh, David, would you like to say something?↗

5:06@nietzsche258918Yes, something. How are you, my↗

5:08Speaker 4friend?↗

5:11@rosegar32657259Oh my goodness, I'm↗

5:11@nietzsche258918looking forward to this. Yeah, I'm looking forward to this. I, I love the combination of these two things, right? I love the combination of, well, the ADL, which of course opposes our freedom, and the USS Liberty. I mean, literally the word liberty is right in there, you know? And who are we to believe, people who defend us or people who offend us? This is a pretty easy discussion, isn't it?↗

5:33Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely, and, and gonna have both of those stories wrapped into one. And, and isn't it curious timing, given the space that we just hosted yesterday and what's going on with Austin Franck, the suppression of his speech, right? It is as if at every turn, you're not allowed to critique certain interests, you're not allowed to talk about the backstory of others that might conflict with those interests. And, again, I, I, I wanted to give a massive, shout out and kudos. I know Diligence been doing a, Into Christian Zionism, some of the suppression that's been taking place within tech because of some of the connections with, eighty-two hundred and Mossad, and, and so this is just gonna be really interesting to unpack this because while we see the digital suppression today, the ADL obviously at the foundational level of all the suppression that takes place on, let's say, the, the social sphere prior to the rise of, of not only these apps, but during, and we actually saw, of course, Jonathan... Greenblatt, the head of the ADL, saying that they work, lo and behold, with Mossad and eighty-two hundred to monitor all speech across all of these apps so that the ADL can basically monitor in real time, quote-unquote, anti-Semitism and hate speech, which somehow ended up with myself and Ian Carroll, I wouldn't doubt if Truth Teller was on there and a whole bunch of others in a binder that made its way all the way up to the highest level of the White House, suggesting that we are all essentially terrorists For merely having conversations about topics like, like this, in which literally Israel conducted terrorism on the USS Liberty. So we will continue to try and get, Phil up here, Steph, I, I don't know if he's continuing to have issues, but, if, if, if not, or if he does, we'll, we'll certainly start off with Mary's side of the story, otherwise we'll start up with Phil as soon as we get him up here.↗

7:26@joann_marieAnd I also wanna, well, give thanks to Bergman who helped us at this up. So thank you so much, Ber. I don't know if he's in the listeners, I'm looking if he wants to come up and, and seriously, thank you so much for setting this up. And yeah, I keep sending invites to Phil, but I don't think he's in. Well, we can go to Mary. Mary, welcome. Thank you so much for joining us. How are you?↗

7:55@joann_marieMary? Oh no.↗

8:01Speaker 5Well, Joe, I was hoping to make the observation, just the observation, that, you spoke about the attack by Israel on USS Liberty in the past tense. My argument would be that the attack on USS Liberty- It's continued to this day and still continues. Yes, the irony of it. It's not necessarily a ship, it's the concept itself.↗

8:24@phagankeanHow so? Are you there? Oh, yes, very welcome. Oh, hey. Thank, thank you so much for being here. I'm sorry I interrupted the other person. That's not usually my style, so- Yeah. I'll↗

8:35@nietzsche258918tell you what, let's let Akandji, I really like that thought. I think that you're right, and I'd love for you to expound upon a little bit, my friend.↗

8:45Speaker 5So yeah, I was just saying that, it might be an error to, to speak about the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in the past tense, because essentially the attack on USS Liberty never stopped, it's continued from that very day to right now. It's just, its bullets are the, are APAC and bribery and corruption and pedophilia and, and blackmail. That, those are the different bullets they're using instead of directly attacking a thing called the Liberty, they are now and have been attacking the The concept of liberty with every evil means possible.↗

9:19@joann_marieAnd also they keep terrorizing the survivors. So yeah, it's, it's still going and it's, it's absolutely insane. But I, I love that, Akundi, thank you so much for that. should we start with Mary because I, I don't, I think Phil is not able to come up?↗

9:36Ian MalcolmYeah, let's do that. And, and if we could, Steph, if you or Bryce could, could just reach out to, to Phil, see if he can-↗

9:43Speaker 3We're↗

9:44Ian MalcolmOkay, perfect. But yeah, let's, let's start because actually isn't this kind of curious, because obviously one predates the other, so perhaps, what we could do, and I see Diligence got his hand up, maybe we could go to Diligence, and then what we can, do is go to Mary, and, and maybe we could have Mary actually start the story, going all the way back to the series of events, kind of walk through them, then we can talk through how that affects things even up to this very day. But,↗

10:12@diligentdenizenWell, yeah, I was just going to say, you know, I hadn't paid, enough close attention, and I think that kind of speaks to how this whole story has been kind of swept under the rug for generations, right? it's really- It's just treasonous, what they've done to the story. And the, the more that I looked at it, the more angry I get, the, at the evidence, at the fact that our government seems very complicit in not only the cover-up, but potentially the participation of the takedown of this ship. So, can't wait to hear these guys' story. I've been looking forward to this all week.↗

10:51Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And like I was saying, diligent's been running some wonderful spaces, and, and obviously, you know, the, the, the conversations and the discourse that we have, it tends to be a little bit further out on, the conspiratorial side. And, and what I really appreciate and I love is that, whether it was the conversations we had with Suleiman, where we kind of shook the overton window a little bit in his direction, started to open up this discourse with him maybe two years ago, or, or diligent, who is not approaching these conversations from frame in the slightest bit of, of animus, of, of race-based, hatred or discrimination. It's merely from a patriotic standpoint when you start to recognize that there is an element here that is the subversion of our, pun intended, our liberty, right? And that has been done, essentially not only by covering up certain items, but prospectively, like you were saying there, diligent, for perhaps even putting, and, and you kind of connected these dots, that the liberty itself was in a very unusual Place sent very close to the line of fire, where you could almost look at that and say, maybe they were even complicit in allowing this to take place, right? With no, with↗

11:59@diligentdenizenno protection,↗

12:00Ian Malcolmno protection. Yeah, zero pro-- so an intelligence ship, the most sophisticated of its era, with zero protection sent into the line of fire, and then the government, of course, covering it up after the, the word was able to get out because, heroic individuals on board like Phil were able to still get out a signal and a distress call, even though they tried to take out Radio tower, and we'll obviously, we'll be going into that, but even predating that, again, this idea of the construction of the ADL and how it has been used as perhaps a piece of that puzzle to keep stories like the Liberty suppressed and out of the Zeitgeist. And so again, I wanna thank him for being here. I think diligent you'll find this incredibly interesting for those in your audience that might be joining us, very excited to have them in here. And again, this isn't at all from a position of animus, of, of hatred, merely it's a reasonable thing To ask why are all these stories that are so critical for, for our ability to speak common truths and to express our, again, pun intended, liberties, right? So we're gonna set sail with this, and with that being said, Mary, why don't we go to you? I know we've got Phil up here, but why don't we do that first portion? Let's talk about the ADL, where it came from, and in particular, the horrors of this story that your direct blood, directly, unfortunately, had to, to be at the hands of.↗

13:17@phagankeanOkay, my name is Mary Fagan Keane. I'm the great niece and namesake of little Mary Fagan, who was 13 years old when she was raped and murdered by Leo Frank. It was a story that affected a lot of things here in the South because it was again the time when the carpetbaggers were coming from the North and factories were being here, so the South was changing drastically. So her murder really started a lot of stuff here in Atlanta, unfortunately.↗

13:51@phagankeanshe was raped, she was murdered horribly, there's all kinds of hoaxes that are going on about it. I have read- Written my current book, the 2025 version, and it is out. It's just called The Murder of Little Mary Fagan, by me, Mary Fagan Keene, and it adds about sixteen chapters from the first book I wrote in 1987. That tells you how long they've been continuing this. It's been a hundred and thirteen years, and we're still talking about Leo Frank being the victim and Mary Fagan is a nobody.↗

14:23@phagankeanAnd that hurts our family greatly.↗

14:25Ian MalcolmOh, absolutely. Oh, and Mary, do, do you wanna kind of walk through the, the what specifically happened for individuals like diligent or members of his audience that might not be familiar at all with the history?↗

14:36@phagankeanAlright. Well, little Mary Fagan worked at the National Pencil Company in 1912. She started. The family moved from Forest Park to a place called Belwood, and she couldn't get a seat in school. This is my oral history. She couldn't get a seat in school, and so therefore she went to work in the pencil factory. It was Confederate Memorial Day, and yes, the South still celebrated Confederate Memorial Day back then. And we had a family relative of Fagan who participated in the war between the states and also was killed at the Seven battles in Virginia. So the Fagan family wanted to celebrate, and Mary did too. Well, she had been laid off, and at the time, she didn't see the signs in the pencil factory that payday had been changed from Saturday because it was Confederate Memorial Day to that Friday. So she went and got dressed, she ate her cabbage and biscuits in the morning, she left about a quarter to twelve, she got on the trolley, she went to the National, National Pencil Company, she went up to the office of Leo Fry. And then she was never seen again. She collected, she did collect her paycheck, her paycheck y'all was a dollar and twenty cents.↗

15:46@phagankeanIt, it was just so strange to me that, you know, that she went And, you know, she was dressed very nicely. The Fagan family was well-to-do in very many aspects. However, you know how authors are nowadays, they change everything, and they're trying to change it, they're turning it around. Well, they called my family hillbillies, so let me tell you what the hillbillies did. her sister worked for Rich's Downtown Store, which is a very famous store here in Atlanta, but it no longer exists. my uncle Ben was in the Navy, uncle Charlie was a farmer in Marietta with his uncle Reuben, and, my grandfather worked in a mill and then little Mary, like I said, had worked in the pencil factory, and she had quit like the week before and was laid off, so that's pretty much what happened with that. my family did say that she was being sexually harassed, by Leo Frank, and that's the reason why she- Was no longer gonna be working there, and, you know, she just didn't come home. So the Fagan family got worried 'cause she was gonna meet friends and everything, and they trusted her, even though she didn't-- I, you know, I just can't imagine a thirteen-year-old little girl. I mean, I consider thirteen a little girl. I want you to know that the authors of today are now calling her a woman.↗

17:02@phagankeanAnd how did their family first↗

17:04@joann_marieheard of it? Oh,↗

17:05@phagankeansorry. Yeah, they smear, they're smearing Mary Fagan, and it's awful. Even the ADL's expert, who wrote the book in two thousand and three, Steve Oney, called her a voluptuous woman. She was thirteen years old. In all fairness, she was covered from head to toe with her clothing. That is↗

17:22Speaker 2a voluptuous woman. You know?↗

17:24@phagankeanIt was, and so it just amazes me how it's turned around, and it really actually started in The nineteen, nineteen fifty-six, and then everybody started-- the books are just horrible that have been written about it. And what we have to understand, you know, they keep saying historians on Wikipedia and this place, and, you know, Jonathan Greenblatt is saying all this stuff. What they don't tell you all is that most of those people are the same religious faith as Leo Frank was, which he was Jewish. So anyway, what happened with her-- her body was found at three o'clock in the morning by Newt Lee, the night watchman, in the basement, and supposed- Supposedly she was supposed to be put in a cinderater and burned. And he found the body and he called the police station. The police came over and at that time, they didn't know,↗

18:13@phagankeanwhat color she was. They didn't know if it was a black girl or a white girl because she was so full of ashes and being dragged from the elevator to try to get her to the, the, the furnace. So they discovered the detectives were there, and when they covered her, uncovered her, they discovered she was a white little girl, and they actually say and repeat in the newspapers, "Oh my God, it's a little girl."↗

18:39@phagankeanSo they, you know, and-- and that was the language that was lu-used back during then at the nineteen thirteen, which is a little girl, and it still should be today, and it needs to change and go back to that. They called Leo Frank, the superintendent of the factory, and he had done some really weird things, like he had called the night watchman, which he had never done before, and asked if everything was all right. So, I mean, he did some really strange things. He also-- So they brought him down to the factory, and he said he didn't know Mary Fagan, and that he would have to look in his accounting book and see what her peg number was to see if she had come by his office.↗

19:15@phagankeanhe, she, he did, and she was number sixty-five, I think. And so what happened with all this is that because Leo, Leo Frank Actually, literally was trying to plant evidence on the night watchman. He went with the detectives, down and said, "Oh, his, his printout is fine, he's logged in, he's-- the timesheet is perfect, there's no issues." Unfortunately, the detectives let him take the timesheet, and he came back the next day and said, "I was incorrect," and he left the time open for Nutley to have to, to, to murder Mary Fagan.↗

19:56@phagankeanSo that was interesting. Then he got another person by the name of John Gant, who was a Fagan family friend and who was high in management, had just gotten fired, and he wanted to get his shoes. And he had told the detectives that he was quite intimate, and you know what the word intimate means, with Mary Fagan. So these two people were arrested because of Leo Frank's statement.↗

20:22@phagankeanNow, mind you, Leo Frank told the detectives earlier he didn't know little Mary, but yet he told about John Gant knowing Mary's vagin intimate. There is some really conflict there. There's also another person, and he was colored as well. Newt Lee was colored, and that's the word we used in the South back then, colored. Newt Lee was colored, and then Jim Conley was colored. He was the maintenance man, and he happened to be in the factory at the same time. And later on, it came out that Jim Conley was Leo Frank's accomplice. So the murder occurs, and the detectives gather all the information They put Jim Conley in jail, Newt Lee's in jail, John Gant's in jail, and then eventually Leo Frank gets to go to jail as well. And the grand jury and the coroner's inquest emphasized that, and at this time Jim Conley didn't testify in any of those, and they put an order in that Leo Frank and Newt Lee need to be considered for the strangulation of Mary Phagan. At the time, they didn't use the word rape. How the word rape came out was during the trial, through the autopsy report that was given at the trial. So that's how we found out about that. But my family said she was, raped horribly and that she was a virgin. Nowadays, they're all saying she wasn't. So it's against Mary Mary Fagan, a thirteen-year-old, and, you know, it's-- the family was very strong in their feelings that when I was younger, I'm seventy-two now, and, you know, a lot of the, the stories that I heard from were people that actually knew little Mary, and so that was really a won-- it's a, it was a wonderful experience for me, and also a very terrifying and very confusing and very hurtful experience to hear all that because they knew her. And it was very difficult for me and my life to go through all that. So the Fagan family never said anything, but they did say that after everything was done, the coroner's inquest said that it was Leo Frank. They wanted to put Leo Frank on trial for the Mary Fagan. Now, I won't need to mention there was three papers in the Atlanta area, Atlanta Journal and Constitution, and, the Atlanta Georgian. Ironically, all the editors were Jewish.↗

22:36@phagankeanThey were very pro Frank, if you read the original articles. If you're gonna study this case, you can't go to the books that have been printed by those, those people that have been, like Leonard Denertstein, Jeffrey Milneck. Harry Golden, those are the books everybody uses and the media you uses, and they make movies out of, and the work, and parade, and all this, and every single one of them is the same religious faith, and so they have their own bias, plus they have a lot of errors in what they're saying. Ironically, the original trial transcript disappeared when Harry Golden and Leonard Dinnerstein were doing the research at the Atlanta Archives in the sixties, nineteen sixty-five, I think, nineteen sixty-five, sixty-six, sixty-seven, Daddy said they disappeared. We were, I was In Japan and Hawaii at that time, so I didn't know, anything about it at all.↗

23:26@phagankeanIt, it was just an interesting thing for me to see that, you know, it just, you know, they changed history, the books changed history, and I noticed that. So that's what happened. He was convicted, and he was sentenced to hang by the judge. there was, nothing going on, so the trial ended. When the trial ended is when all heck broke loose. The rabbi of Leo Frank went to New York to meet with Adolph Ochs, the publisher of the New York Times, and said he was convicted because he was Jewish. There was antisemitism there.↗

24:04@phagankeanOkay? In the meantime If you read the original newspapers, and please go to my website, www.littlemaryfagan.com, I've got it all in there, I've transcribed everything in the last twenty years, so it's wonderful, all the original articles. Not one time do the newspapers mention that Leo Frank is Jewish, not one time. They call him the superintendent of the National Pencil Factory, not the Jewish superintendent of the National Pencil Factory, which everybody does currently. of course, I didn't say that, because, but, you know, so he goes there, and so Otto Ox goes to Chicago to meet with Albert Lasker, who's a philanthropist, a very wealthy, wealthy, probably billionaire in his time, and they decide to get together that they're going to go ahead because, you know, they're from the North and we're the South. It becomes a mini, another mini war between the states with the newspapers attacking the Leo Frank trial, saying it was unfair and that he was convicted because of antisemitism, and people were shouting Hanged the Jew or will hang you, and all this craziness that never happened. When you read the original documents, you will see it never happened. Ironically, in two thousand and three, Steve Omi, who I mentioned earlier that says all those terrible things about smearing Mary Fagan, he was the one, my fig- my Fagan family had been saying for years that Hanged the Jew had never been, but they never listened to us about that. But he did his book, and he came out and said it never happened along with us, and he was considered the ADL expert. So I'm assuming at that time that everything should be hunky dory. Well, Alton Ox and Lassiter keep going, and they start the newspaper war, the war between the states again, and they just go for two years. You know, he's, he's got appeals coming, he's doing all this stuff. Every appeal, he had thirteen appeals, including the Georgia Supreme Court and the Supreme Court of the United States. Not one court↗

26:01@phagankeansaid He was not guilty, not one. They said he-- the, the guilty verdict remained, they didn't turn it over. However, the Jewish community got together and they just really started working on it, and it's, it's been ever since a hundred and twelve years. So that's the basic outline, and it's just been going on. And so all these continuous lies about hang the Jew have been going on for over a hundred years. Whereas my family, I will tell you, my great grandmother, Fanny Fagan Coleman, my great step-grandfather-↗

26:33@phagankeanJW Coleman, Uncle, Uncle Ben didn't attend the trial 'cause he was in the Navy. my grandfather attended the trial and Mary's sister, Ollie, attended the trial, and they never heard anything like that, you know, 'cause-- And they were at the trial every day. Somebody was there every day at the trial in the Fagan family.↗

26:52@phagankeanAnd they never heard of anything, they heard no shouting, no nothing. And when I-- what's happened with me then, so I, you know, I don't know anything about this story at all. My dad's in the military, I'm a military brat. So my growing up years were basically Japan, Hawaii, and Charleston, South Carolina. And then when we moved to Charleston, South Carolina,↗

27:14@phagankeanI was thirteen, and my science teacher, Mr. Henry, logged us in as students back in the day. And he looked at me when I told him my name, and he took his pencil and everything, and he just, you know, let people go through the line but not me. He just looked at me and he put his pencil down on that paper and he said, "You know, there was a little girl back in the nineteen twenties in Atlanta that was murdered with that name. Are you by chance related to her?" And I told him I didn't know.↗

27:43@phagankeanWell, it was very traumatic. I'm 13. The boys started teasing me, telling me I was reincarnated and I was dead, and it was just so upsetting. I mean, when I-- I just get chills every time I even talk about it. I can still remember those, that day very clearly. So upset, I cried home. Thank goodness Daddy was home, 'cause he flew a lot.↗

28:02@phagankeanAnd I went home, and he said, "What's going on?" I said, "Well, Mr. Henry told me about this little girl with my name." That was murdered in Atlanta in the 1920s, and he asked me if I was related, and I told him, "I don't know." And my dad had such tears in his eyes, and I knew something was going on, and he said, "Well, we need to sit down and talk." I said, "Okay." He went and got me a glass of milk, and we talked, and he said, "I want you to go back to school tomorrow." And I want you to go tell Mr. Henry that, yes, you are related to little Mary Fagan, who was raped and murdered. I didn't say raped, he said who was murdered by Leo Frank, 'cause I was only thirteen, so he's being very careful with his terminology with me. And that she was murdered by Leo Frank, and that he was convicted of the murder, and he told me she was found in the basement for a dollar twenty and a little few things about, or not much. And then he told me that he was convicted, and, then eventually he was lynched after,↗

29:04@phagankeanGovernor Slayton commuted his sentence from life to death. Well, what they don't tell you about Governor Slayton, he was a member of the law firm that defended Leo Frank. And right before he commuted his sentence, before he left office, he met with the lawyers, and I believe, and my family believes, that he was bought, and that- He helped write the commutation because a lot of things in there aren't accurate. He does the same thing saying that she was on her men's cycle or menstrual cycle when she wasn't. So there's just a lot of all the stuff, and that's, that's a lot of the hoaxes that are going on about this, and it's still going on for a hundred years. So I address those in my new book. Those are a lot of new chapters. Plus I address what the Atlanta community and the Marietta city community have done here in Atlanta. in nineteen ninety-four, they changed Talk about that later, but it was just the wildest thing. Somebody called me and said, "You need to go see, to the grave," and it was just amazing. That's chapter fifteen, fifteen in my book. then we have a, a Dale Schwartz, the attorney who did the posthumous pardon for Leo Frank in nineteen eighty-two, that completely takes Judge Roane's statement to the jury and turns it around and don't know where it came from, but it was printed in the Atlanta Jewish Times, so that's a chapter. But I just wanna let you all be aware that You know, there's some really ugly people in this world, and there's some in, in Marietta, and one of 'em is, a rabbi by the name of Stephen Lobo, and the other is a former governor, Roy Barnes, that are claiming that they're gonna hang the Jew and all this stuff, and they're still doing it. But yet in two thousand and three, it was debunked. But they won't let it be debunked. So that's what's happened with our story. We're just very, you know, I-- it's just a lot on↗

30:53@phagankeanIt's hurtful what they're doing because of it's a, it's a little girl. And it, how they've changed it is just so remarkable. So, I mean, if you could, I have my book on my website, it's amazon dot coms on it, it has it, but if you go to my website and go to the direct book, the funding will go towards a documentary that I'm currently working on for Mary Fagan, and I'm gonna dispel all the hoaxes that there were. There's like sixteen hoaxes regarding the court case. They said that was bit on the shoulder and that there were dental X-rays by Pierre von Pausen. He wrote it in 1964 about his experience in 1920 in Atlanta. Well, I did a lot of research and he didn't, they didn't even have X-rays for teeth back then. You know, and no court in Georgia had ever used X-rays until the nineteen fifties. So I'm just like, "Where does all this stuff come from? " You know? And then they wait forty years to tell the story, and that-- so that's what we've been facing with. But it's just been,↗

31:54@phagankeanan interesting experience. It's been a beautiful experience, it's also been a very painful experience. And ironically, I think that the president, Johnson, was he the president with the USS Liberty? Somebody correct me if I'm wrong. Yes. He was the president, right? He tried to get Leo Frank exonerated in nineteen sixty-seven.↗

32:21@phagankeanAnd I just found out, I just found that out, and I thought, "Wow, interesting, because of the USS Liberty." you know, I'm thinking like, "Wow, he was involved in a lot of things that he shouldn't have been involved in." So, you know, it was just an ex-- I just found that out, and I'm like, "Oh my gosh, that's just really too weird that Phil and I have been talking in some podcast together, but yet there's really a little more connection than I thought." Because of President Johnson, former President Johnson, and it was very upsetting to find that out for me, that he, he intended to do that. And of course, when Leo Frank was, convicted about two years after he was lynched in September, I believe, in nineteen fifteen, that's when the Anti-Defamation League of the neighborhood started. Was because of Leo Frank's, not because of Leo Frank, well, I guess maybe because of his lynching, but also the other controversies with, with the case as far as the, the Jewish community was concerned about.↗

33:21@diligentdenizenGo ahead. God, there's a parallel here that I can just-- It's, it's, I, I, I have to I have to speak on it. The, there, there is somebody's, David, I think you got the mic. There is what the attacks that they did to your, your, your family member, to her memory, they, they did the same. It sounds almost ex- like exactly. It's verbatim what they did to the Epstein, Epstein victims. I, I'm sitting there thinking about that, all of the names, they're calling these thirteen-year-old girls prostitutes And not exactly, right? Like it reminds you, it, the tactics↗

34:01@phagankeanare, are identical, identical. They're identical, except I have a lot of books written about it. You know? And I, you know what I'm saying? And it started, let me get that book out 'cause I got a, I got a library here. So anyway, after I was thirteen and my dad told me about it, I just- And in one ear and out the other, and I said, "Oh, I'll never be asked that question again. Woo, was I wrong? Woo." So we moved to, Atlanta, Georgia, and I went to Shamrock High School. It was a good neighborhood and a good, you know, income level, middle, upper middle class, middle class, upper middle class school, and I had six classes,↗

34:36@phagankeanand I'm 15, I go in, every one of those teachers in those six classes asked me if I was related to Little Mary Fagan. Everyone. And I said yes proudly, but I had some things in my head that when I went home, 'cause Daddy was retired then, I said, "Daddy, there is more to the story of Little Mary than you're telling me." I said, "Because every one of my teachers asked me if I was related," and he said, "And I said, I told him I was, and I was, I was proud to say that, 'cause I knew, you know, I finally knew about it." And I said, "What aren't you telling me?" So he gave me more information because I was older and I can understand things. But you gotta remember, back in my day, it was-- I hate saying that, but it's true, I didn't know what they called-- He said that Leo Frank, he told me Leo Frank was a sexual pervert. I didn't know what that meant. He told me to go get the dictionary, and I went and got the dictionary, and I looked at it, and I go, "Daddy, that's what he did to her?"↗

35:37@phagankeanAnd then he told me he raped her, and that's what he told me. They found her underwear off, they found blood in her panties. He said, however, modern day authors are claiming that she wasn't a virgin and that it was just, you know, that she did have her menstrual cycle. It wasn't, you know, and, and he said the fa- grandmother Fagan told him, "No way," because she didn't have, a cloth and pins, and that's what the feminine protection was in nineteen thirteen. And I researched it, and exactly what Daddy said, that she had, they had a cloth and they had two pins holding it up for a menstrual cycle, and it wasn't there, she just had panties on. But she did have blood on her panties, and most women will tell you, we know what happens when you do it the first time, you're gonna↗

36:24@phagankeanYou know? And so, I mean, it was just how, how they do it, it just is so cruel to, to her and to our family, you know? 'Cause they could care less, but, you know, like the ADL, I hate to say, but they make billions of dollars off this because every, the day he was-- every time he was the, the day he was convicted or the day he-- the date that he was lynched, they make billions of dollars because they use that as the rationale for, fighting antisemitisms. Well, unfortunately for them, Anymore. It, they have made it unmeaningful to me.↗

36:56@diligentdenizenHave they, have they attacked you? Have you, have you come under similar attacks, personal attacks? No. No.↗

37:03@phagankeanNo. Not one. And, you know, I have a really, you know, not one, yeah. It's strange, isn't it?↗

37:10@diligentdenizenVery strange, yeah, because as soon as I started talking about the Epstein case, I got all kinds of weird attacks from Zionists out of nowhere, 'cause I had never talked about Jewish people or Israel at all, really, right? And so I started, I started talking about the Epstein victims, and all of a sudden, all of these weird, very hateful personal attacks started coming out of nowhere, similar to how they're attacking the memory of your, of your, your great-↗

37:40@diligentdenizenRight,↗

37:41@phagankeanright. And well, see what the, the crazy thing is, most people don't realize it, but I'm sharing it now, is I had adoptive Jewish grandparents. So, Daddy was in the military, as I said, in 1952. He-- They were flying a C-124, they were taking the guys home for the holidays, for Christmas and, you know, whatever other holidays. I think, I think Dad said, "Not Hanukkah," that-- What is the one that they-- That, that might have been it, he said that. And a plane crashed. And thirty-four people survived, and they were all in the tail of the plane that survived. The rest of the pe- the rest of the young men died instantly. And on that plane crash was a man named Jacobs, who was my father's best friend.↗

38:27@phagankeanAnd, you know, Jacobs was Jewish, and they were going to send a color guard to the family in California to take his body home. And my dad and him were very great friends. He went to the commanding officer and he said, "I know that I am not Jewish, but Bob was my best friend, and I would like to take his body back because I think a friend needs to be able to answer questions about their son."↗

39:03@phagankeanAnd the commanding officer agreed, and he went to California and took the body home. And those, Mr. Grandma Jacobs and Grandpa Jacobs adopted my father, and I always called them grandmother and grandfather Jacobs until they passed away. So, you know, I didn't know what hate was. I didn't was-- I wasn't brought up with all the stuff that these young kids are seeing on TV and YouTube, and we didn't have that, and I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful that I have had the life that I have, and that it was-- it didn't- I didn't have to deal with all this stuff that all these young people are having to deal with in their lives. But we weren't raised that way, you know? We were military, we'd-- you know, we-- In fact, if you wanna talk about racism, my dad always said he was the one that faced racism from the colored people in the Air Force because everybody said, "Stay away from Fagan, he's from Georgia."↗

39:55@phagankeanHe's from Atlanta, Georgia. "Stay away from him." And, you know, so he had to, you know, he had friends that were, that were black, and he had friends that were Jewish, he had friends like me. I'm the same way. I liked a person because we had things in common and we could grow and have a great friendship. In fact, you know, I still have some friends since I was age fifteen, if you can imagine. So, and,↗

40:17@phagankeanit was just a, a thing. So, you know, I wasn't raised to be anti anything. And I'm-- that I love about my life, because It's because I don't like you. You have done something that I don't like or I don't agree with, and-- But most people I do like, I have to tell you that, I'm pretty friendly, is what everybody tells me, you know? But, you know, just having that daddy telling that story, and then I got that story in the scrapbook, and, and he had-- I finally found the original newspaper article of that, that plane crash, and it was a horrible plane crash, guys. It was terrible.↗

40:55@joann_marieAnd Mary, would you like to talk more about the misconceptions about the case or about Mary that people, sure. Yeah, because I think people need to know what I think. Okay, I↗

41:05@phagankeancan go over some of these, hoaxes. How would you guys like to do that? Would you like to 18 of them, you know, just mention them so that you would know what's been going on with the hoaxes.↗

41:14@joann_marieYes, of course, I would like to get, okay.↗

41:16@phagankeanSo first, for the first hoax that's been, been since 1913, since her trial, since the trial of Leo Frank, was it was antisemitism with the words, "Hang the Jew or we'll hang you," and that there were mobs at the trial every day screaming those into the courtroom where the jury sat. What I discovered through my research, so like fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen, Dad and I went to the archives, and we've went to the original newspapers. I do have a collection at Georgia State, and I have all the mimeograph of the original newspaper crafts in that collection now, so they can't destroy 'em.↗

41:50@phagankeanAnd, we went and we copied everything, and that's how I wrote my first book because, you know, we didn't have the internet back then. So that's what we did, and it was really strange that when I got to write this book, it was in COVID, I discovered, for example, the Nashville Tennessean, when they came out in nineteen eighty-two about Leo Frank being innocent because Alonzo Mann saw him, Jim Conley, the, the colored guy, with the body of Mary Phagan. They take a picture, I found an original picture, and it said, "Eager crowd waiting for the trial, Leo Frank trial, waiting for the Frank trial is what it says." And they take that photo and they change it and they say mobs waiting to get into the trial.↗

42:35@phagankeanThey can't-- I'm a former educator, I taught students with visual impairments. I know the definition is different between a crowd and a mob, so there were no mobs there. They say the, the Lynch, they say the Lynch mob, they weren't called that. They are called, they were called the Vigilance Committee, is what they were called. And, you know, they pe- they say that he didn't have a fair trial. Well, thirteen appeals in the Supreme Court and Georgia Court, Supreme Court disagree with these people that are saying he didn't have a fair trial. You know, I mean, it's just ludicrous. He had a fair trial. What else came out was during the autopsy report, during the trial, that, like I said, Mary was raped, she wasn't on her menstrual cycle,↗

43:23@phagankeanand she wasn't bitten, as Pierre Van Passeen says that she was on her breast. They did exhum her body Twice after they buried her to confirm that there were no bite marks on her, evidently because of the rumors that were going around so much about it, you know, how gossip can be, and, and, and anywhere. the murder notes, there were two murder notes found by her body, I forgot that, that's really important, I apologize. and it says, "A long-ta, a long-tall, black, slim Negro did this. He wanted to make water and he wanted to play with me." And there was another one there, and,↗

44:02@phagankeanMy family believes that Jim Conley, the other colored person that was eventually charged in, with an accessory, to the murder by helping Frank carry the body to the basement, didn't murder Mary Fagan because he didn't know the night watchman, and they believe, we believe that He was dictated those notes by Leo Frank. Oh, there, there's so many people that do this deep, deep intentions and linguistics and all this stuff. Forget that stuff, guys. The bottom line was Jim Conley never met New Lee. How did he know? He'd only been working there for two weeks, and he worked in the daytime, and New Lee worked at nighttime. Their shifts were very different. He never knew he was a-- and he would never use the word black. That was a northern term.↗

44:48@phagankeanSo we believe that Jim Conley Wrote those notes because Leo Frank did dictate those notes to him. So that's, that's a hoax as well. there's also a hoax, and excuse my colorful metaphor here, but it's called "shit in the shaft." Jim Conley admitted that he defecated down there, and so when they went to take the elevator to go to the basement They, it smashed, so they said it hit the ground and smashed, but what they don't tell you is that the detectives were in there digging around before they even got down on the elevator, and they could have moved all that trash to where he defecated at and gone into the place where the elevator, and in my experience, even here in Atlanta, 'cause we have some buildings that have those old elevators, they never go to the floor, even, you know, they, they're just They don't touch the floor at the same place all the time. That's just how the elevators work back then. They probably still do today, they jump around a lot too. So they feel that, that, that was a-- they feel that they really focus on that in those letters, those murder notes, and I just think that it's just a hoax, that, you know, he, he definitely dictated those notes, and that's what Jim Conley did, and he paid Jim Conley to get all this done. He helped, Leo Frank move her body. But however, today, the ADL insists that it's Jim Conley that murdered Mary Fagan. You go to Wikipedia, look at it. Go look at anything on here, it's all about Jim Conley, that he is the one that murdered my great aunt, not Leo Frank. They have made Leo Frank the victim↗

46:28@phagankeanbecause of antisemitism. And then there were some judges, which is a hoax. They said, "Oh, we're one of the few people that know Leo Frank is totally innocent for which he was convicted and lynched for." When I die, I'm gonna leave the documentation. Well, and Alan Lumpkin Henskin and, the other guy, there was nothing there. They didn't leave anything. There was nothing to prove that Leo Frank was innocent. They had absolutely nothing. And so that's what they were saying, and Arthur Powell is the other judge, and they were very close evidently to Judge Roane, who was the overall judge of the trial of the murder of Mary Fagan. So that was a hoax as well. And of course, then you guys know that there's always kinds of-- there was prejudice, there was racial prejudice at the trial, yes, there was,↗

47:20@phagankeanbut it wasn't against the Jewish person, it wasn't against Louis Frank, it was against- The, the colored man. They called him a lying, filthy, drunken, and I can't say the word N-word, in court. In court. They called him that he didn't have any intelligence. I mean, they just defamed him so badly. I mean, he wasn't that much-- he wasn't very educated, but you shouldn't never say that. But they did in court, and they said, "Oh, the lawyers cleaned him up, and he looked so good." But yet they had the best attorneys in Atlanta defending Leo Frank, and you'll never believe what their defense was. You ready for it? The Black Man Did It, Jim Conley. And white, they used white privilege against Jim Conley to say, and even Leo Frank says in the newspaper article, no white man would murder Mary Phagan, only a Negro done, done this.↗

48:16@phagankeanIt was against the black and the colored people, and it was also the first time in the history of the South and Atlanta in Georgia that a black man's testimony helped to convict a white man, and, and black people or colored-- the brief of evidence says colored in the parenthesis, colored were allowed to testify, and it wasn't just-- it was several black or colored people that testified, so that was an interesting thing. That's not a hoax, that is true, that it was the first time that that happened. Of course, we talked about the smearing of Mary Fagan. And the white privilege, and then, yellow journalism. Yeah, they printed it out every day. I wish, man, I can't tell you how many years it takes to read all those, and then these people go write a book in a couple months. They're reading the wrong information. They need to go back to the trial newspaper accounts and read what exactly is going on with all three of them. And yeah, they weren't, you know, in a contest, like we are today with the media. I hate the media. I can't stand reading the newspapers anymore. I quit. I can't handle it here in, in Georgia. I can't handle the Atlanta Journal-Constitution or the Marietta Daily Journal. I can't handle them. I got a subscription to them, but I just click them off, you know, just real quick. Because, you know what? They still put stuff in there about Mary Fagan. So I was kind of hop-hoping that they'll kind of let it out, but they haven't let anything out lately. The other thing that I think people need to know is Tom Watson was involved. A lot of the Jonathan Greenblatt of the ADL↗

49:45@phagankeanWith his newspaper that he had, Watson's Magazine and the Jeffersonian, and I have those originals in my collection as well, because you can't find them anymore. They will tell you that he was involved in how he did, how he got the antisemitism built up, and yes, he did. But guess what? It was in nineteen fourteen, a year after the trial of Leo Frank, those comments came out, and they're saying they came out during the trial. What a difference, right?↗

50:12@phagankeanso and then especially Alonzo Mann in nineteen eighty-two is when, that was a horrible, horrible time for our family, because he came out after eighty-something years, and said, seventy-five years, I think it was, that Leo Frank was innocent, that he saw Jim Conley with the body of Mary Phagan. So, secretly? Behind, every, our back and everything, the three Jewish communities in Atlanta and the ADL, Atlanta Jewish Federation, and then, Atlanta Committee, American Committee, our Jewish committee, went to the Georgia Pardons and Sporles Board and asked for a complete exoneration of Leo Frank for the murder of my great aunt. In 1983, they denied it.↗

50:56@phagankeanWriting my book again and cover up, at that time I thought that was the end. No. In 1985, they call my father in and I, March 11th, and they say, "1986?" We are going to announce to the public tomorrow that we are giving a posthumous pardon for Leo Frank for the murder of our great aunt, but we didn't address his guilt or innocence. The first pardon, they said, "No, no, there's no way after seventy years that he-- they ha-- that they proved his innocence by Alonzo Mann's testimony." And see, Alonzo Mann, and people don't know, and the Tennessee, and the Nashville, Tennessee, and G-↗

51:34@phagankeanI know, I call him Singenthaler, the publisher at the time, he This was gonna be, you know, what do they call that word, in journalism? Oh my, I just lost my brain. Anyway, they wanted to get it all big, but they're the ones that lied about the picture. They're the ones that had this big expose, and they secretly were working with movie people, directors, while all this was going on with Alonzo Mann. So there was more, and it was all in secret. And then I found out that a young man by the name of Clark Freshman had written, had been working with the Georgia- Pardons and parole boards, but yet when I did my open records request, I was denied. I couldn't access, I've been denied four times for open records requests.↗

52:21@phagankeanAnd that includes Fannie Willis, and I'll get to Fannie Willis, but anyway, so they announced that. I was thinking that all this would be over with, you know, finally, and my dad just looked at me and he said, "It's just the beginning, sweetheart." And he was right. Sorry, I'm crying. He was right. They just won't leave us alone, and they're such evil people, I think.↗

52:46@phagankeanand, you know, they just spread their lies, and everybody believes it because the media's controlled, unfortunately, by a lot of bigwigs, and, you know, the ADL has a lot of power, you know, and of course, the Southern Poverty Law I'm really thrilled that they're being called out by the Department of Justice, because they promote the same exact thing as the ADL. They're the sister organization for the ADL, and that's, that's what's really bad about it for me. And then the last thing that's happening right now, because I know I wanna hear Phil too, and y'all wanna hear Phil, but actually, you know, when Phil is listening, I know he is, Mary's murder started all this. You know? And they made her--↗

53:33@phagankeanthey're making her to be just not the person she was and have no-- they just keep promoting, the ADL keeps promoting these, these, these lies, and, and I have evidence, and so I got mad. And in 1987, that's when I wrote my first book, but that was just strictly my oral history. And there were three things that my daddy told me and the, the elders of the pagan family. I have to tell you that the elders didn't want me to write the book in '87, and my dad said, "We can't do it," because they knew Mary. They played with her,↗

54:11@phagankeanthey loved her, and so I said, "Okay," but I had this terrible feeling inside me. Telling me I needed to do it. So I one day I went to the grave, the Mary, and it was kind of rainy, drizzly thing, and I'm sitting there, she had a little vase where you could put flowers in the pot, and I, and I could fit perfectly 'cause I'm, I'm real petite, I'm only four ten and three quarters,↗

54:38@phagankeanand a hundred and eight pounds though, and she was little like that too, so it was I just kept saying, "I need an answer, God. Why are you telling me to do this? " And I understand about my, the elders, I get it. But, you know, something's wrong. I just have this terrible feeling that it's important to get this out and not let it sit.↗

55:01@phagankeanAnd so I said, "I need a sign. " And my sign was, the sky cleared up, and the sun came out, and the sun landed right on her name, and I knew I was supposed to write the book. So I went back to Daddy and I said, "I told him my experience." And back in my day, and the Southern Baptists are really religious, I will tell you that. And so when I told the elders about my experience, my grandmother, Fagan, and the other elders and her aunts and uncles patted me on my knee and she said, "It's time." Go, you can do it. So that's how I wrote the book. And now, I-- Who would have thought, forty years later or thirty years or however it is, I can't even keep the dates straight anymore, the years go by so fast, but it keeps going, that it's still happening. They're still lying about her, the ADL is, and they have made billions of dollars off of her and our family. And, you know, we, we survived, and we still have the story and the beautiful memory. They have the beautiful memory, but all the elders are And it's just me, and I just felt that feeling again during COVID and said, "I'm going to prove everything on my oral history that my dad said," 'cause I had three things that I was really unsure of. One was for bite marks, and I proved that that didn't happen. One was,↗

56:27@phagankeanWhat was the other one? hang on a second, I'm crying so hard. Hang on. the other one was that there was the called Knights of Mary Fagan. I forgot to say that is a hoax. That is a hoax through-- I mean, they always repeat that thing, that the group that lynched Leo Frank was called the Knights of Mary Fagan, and that wasn't true. I found out that six weeks earlier, the New York Times↗

56:50@phagankeanWas the one that mentioned Knights of Mary Fagan. When you come back to the papers here in Atlanta, it was called the Vigilance Committee, and they didn't murder him or lynch him because he was Jewish. They lynched him because he murdered and raped a little girl horribly. And so, there's a big, you know, I know you shouldn't like lynch people, but- That was, they felt that that's what they needed to do, and they had committees, they had decoys, and they, they lynched Leo Frank.↗

57:19@diligentdenizenI don't know if we, maybe if we went back to it, we'd have less criminals.↗

57:25@phagankeanI don't know. We might, yeah, we might. But, you know, we won't do that in society. Society doesn't accept that behavior, the extrajudicial, you know, lynching, and that's what it was, because he didn't-- And, you know, like they said with the pardon, you know, that he was lynched because, because he was lynched, and he didn't get to fulfill all his, judicial-- Even the pardon by the Georgia and pardon parole is incorrect. He did. He went to the Supreme Court.↗

57:55@phagankeanYou know, and the, and the Jewish community always uses Oliver, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes, however, they leave out the entire paragraph in which he, he didn't even, he didn't even study the case, he was just saying if it was mob, if there were mobs there, that, that's wrong, but he didn't say there were mobs at the trial of Leo Frank. Period. There were none. There isn't one.↗

58:17@diligentdenizenI, I ran, I ran the So I ran the ADL's version of, history through my truth-seeking framework, and it's very interesting. Grok, Grok agrees with you, thinks the, the ADL's version is bullshit. The evaluated narrative is the ADL mainstream official narrative, official claim: Leo Frank, Jewish factory superintendent, was falsely accused and wrongly convicted in nineteen ninety-three of the rape and murder of thirteen-year-old employee Mary Phagan due to viral- Current antisemitism, sens-sensationist press, a corrupt prosecution relying on the unreliable black janitor Jim Conley,↗

59:00@diligentdenizenwho is actually the perpetrator, and who repe- repeatedly changed stories and was more than likely the killer, and mob intimidation of the jury. The trial was unfair, appeals failed, but Governor John Slaton commuted the death sentence after reviewing evidence of innocence No, he↗

59:21@phagankeannever did. That, that's, see, no, I forgot to say that.↗

59:24@diligentdenizenThis is just their narrative, it's not- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is just the ADL's narrative. Frank was lynched by a vigilante mob, "quote unquote," Knights of Mary Fagan. this, this injustice directly spurred the founding of the Anti-Defamation League by Benay Baruch in nineteen thirteen to, quote, "stop the defamation of the Jewish people and secure justice and fairer treatment to all," end Frank received a nineteen eighty-six posthumous pardon, citing the state's failure to protect him without declaring guilt or innocence. How do you do that? Modern consensus among historians, historians, is that Frank is innocent. This is in the Wikipedia article. So I had my truth-seeking framework analyze it Grok said, "Uh, the confidence score in the ADL's version of events is forty percent low.↗

1:00:19@phagankeanWow, that's great to hear.↗

1:00:21@diligentdenizenSignificant anomalies and gaps, extraordinary claim of total frame-up in a high-profile murder, requires a lot of strong tier one evidence, that's primary evidence. There is heavy reliance on institutional summaries and in, in post-event affidavits amid, amid- Lost primary evidence, so there are heavy penalties on their narrative. Um-Wow,↗

1:00:47@phagankeanthat makes me feel good. That would have never happened five or ten years ago.↗

1:00:51@diligentdenizenWell, I have, I have my own. This isn't your normal everyday, crock either, so- Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, this is for research. But at least,↗

1:01:01@phagankeanat least the pagan family is making a difference and filling- You,↗

1:01:04@diligentdenizenwell, it sounds like you are, 'cause they actually cite you. So it cites, it cites you and the family, yeah. So, let me read out, let me read out the, the pros and the cons. So, so here's a plus, Governor Dayton's commutation, review ten thousand plus pages, cited new doubts on hair, notes, elevator, nineteen eighty-six pardon on procedural safety grounds. there's also the AEL educational materials, looks like, looks like propaganda. Conley's multiple conflicting statements post trial, commutation under- Pressure. Okay, so those are the three pluses. Here are the negatives to the AAL version. There is,↗

1:01:46@diligentdenizenabsence of primary evidence, completely unaltered trial transcript reportedly missing/slash lost, full autopsy/slash fore- forensic details are limited, original physical exhibits degraded or unavailable. so yeah, so all the evidence has been buried, is what they're saying. Chain of custody issues, Conley's four plus evolving affidavit statements initially implicating others than Frank, murder notes, quote unquote, n-negro dialect, written by Conley per his testimony, contradictions with available evidence, body location, elevator functionality on day of murder, stomach contents at the time of death, for the estimates and Frank's alibi slash character Witness, witnesses versus the prosecution's sexual motive claims. There's a lot of discrepancies there. Inconsistent statements from key figures, Conley shift, Slayton commutation didn't fully exonerate or order a new trial. Why didn't they fully exonerate him? Illegal elements, internal contradictions, rapid shift to Frank despite initial focus on others, jury conviction twelve zero including local context versus a,↗

1:03:02@diligentdenizenmob Atmosphere overriding all evidence. There's no evidence of a mob, evidence withholding gaps, lost documents, limited cross-examination of Conley on all points, Fagan family primary sources, grandniece Mary Fagan keen research challenging the innocence narrative they cite your work. She cites, Grok cites your work. That's amazing. I am↗

1:03:28@phagankeanso proud of myself. Am I allowed to cry again?↗

1:03:30@diligentdenizenYou are.↗

1:03:31@phagankeanYou are. Hi, yes, Marie. I'm so sorry. I'm fine. No, you're wonderful. You know, to know that I have made such a difference for the, for her is just important to me. you know, I just, people that really know me a lot. They, they just make, sometimes, you know, they, they can, I let them make fun of me, okay, about the case in a way, because they said, nobody knows that you never talked about it. I would never--↗

1:03:56@phagankeanMy husband didn't know when I married him that I was related to Little Mary. My dad did the same thing to my mom when I found out at thirteen. She'd been married to my dad for fourteen years, and he had never told her. The Fagan family just didn't talk about it. It's too painful. Well, I finally have felt the pain And I get it, and but they knew her, I didn't, but I do know her,↗

1:04:21@phagankeanbecause I am, I am fighting for her. I shouldn't say fight, I should say advocate, but at this time with, with who the groups that I'm doing, I say fight. You know what I'm saying? I am fighting for her and for, for our family, and I know my dad would be very proud of me right now. Thank you.↗

1:04:38@joann_marieThank you so much for keeping her story alive, Mary, and you're, you're an absolute warrior. Thank you so much↗

1:04:45@rosegar32657259I'm so sorry. No, no, no,↗

1:04:46@joann_marieyou're, you're wonderful. And we do have a couple of hands and a lot of requests as well, but I'm loving everything. But let's go to Truth Teller and then, and then I'll, I↗

1:04:57@phagankeanknow Truth Teller.↗

1:05:00@joann_marieHe's a legend.↗

1:05:02Speaker 6Thanks, Barry. Thank you again for sharing your story, your family and everything you've been through. What, Add a little bit of context, if you'll allow me, just for the times and what was going on in the 1900s, 1910s, et cetera. You've, you've got a hot mic, ma'am, if you don't mind. I don't mind. If you don't mind muting your mic, please, just because it, there's a lot of background noise. Thank you.↗

1:05:29Speaker 6All right, great.↗

1:05:33Speaker 6Okay, so in the 1900s, I'm not sure if you're familiar with who Arnold Rothstein was, so he was the founder of organized crime within America. So he was the guy that, despite the fact, for instance, gambling was illegal, he'd run illegal card games. His crew was also running brothels, prostitution, pimping. He was behind that, and he was also working with Zvi Madel, their, human trafficking, conglomerate actually, 'cause they were, you know, multinational, based out of Argentina, but they were↗

1:06:03Speaker 618 years long before there was an Epstein, from Poland, Eastern Europe, into Argentina, and also shipping them out to New York and across America as well. So again, yeah, they ran many of the brothels where they were pimping out these young girls. So Jews were very much behind the pimping prostitution scene even during that time. They were also responsible for even controlling election outcomes in the, in the 1900s, as you had the likes of Jacob Schiff, Max Warburg, etcetera. They were paying off these politicians, including Woodrow Wilson, prior to that of Even before that, Theodore Roosevelt took over from William McKinley after, the Jews had him shot because, he was investigating Northern securities that was run by the Rothschilds and JP Morgan at that time. So in terms of the laws, the fact that they were able to deliver a verdict of, you know, guilty as they should have in a state like Georgia, i-i-is pretty incredible given how much control the Jews already had then. And Benih Brith, as you know, they, they were the ones, you already mentioned it, who create, who helped create the ADL German Jews who newly, newly migrated into the US so they could set up an organization which became, again, a multinational organization. They've got thousands of homes, synagogues, community centers, and they also exercised tremendous amount, amount of power, leverage on these politicians, the sheriffs, the mayors, and they were doing so in the 1900s as well, so that they, they would turn a blind eye on, on crime that was committed. And it was also these same Jews that would,↗

1:07:29Speaker 6helped prevent the establishment of strong unions so that, young girls like Mary Fagan, you know, wouldn't, shouldn't even have to work at such a young age in a pencil factory, she wouldn't be qualified, just because, you know, of her age, for, for instance. And there would also be protections afforded to people like her, so it was Jews, in fact, that helped prevent strong unions so they could establish proper working conditions for young girls. And they would go on and, you know, through intimidation tactics↗

1:07:56Speaker 6Through all, every means at their disposal are the reasons why, unfortunately, you know, such conditions existed in a pencil factory where a young girl could be raped, and then someone like, you know, Leo Frank would have the audacity to think he could get away with that, and then to blame an illiterate janitor who, was essentially just doing what he, he was told, but, just, yeah, the audacity to try to pin it on him knowing full well what he'd done. And he, he-- this wasn't his first instance either. He had a Girls, as, again, he was the,↗

1:08:29Speaker 6what was it, manager, he had a, had a high level position in that pencil factory, and so he just took advantage of his position to, again, rape a young girl. And so for me, it just added a little bit more context in terms of how they progressed to this level, 'cause nineteen thirteen was a, you know, it was an exceptional year for the Jews. Prior to that, of course, in eighteen ninety-seven, you had the Zionist manifesto, which then led to, led to the establishment of the World Zionist↗

1:08:56Speaker 61909, you had of course, of course, the Schofield version of the Bible, where they, of course, added their edits, revisions to the Bible so they could then brainwash Christian or create the Christian Zionist class to support their cause. And then by 1913, they pushed for Amendment 16 for the establishment of the Income Tax Act, of course, the ADL as a result of what happened to your,↗

1:09:17Speaker 6great, grand aunt, and, of course, then, the establishment of the Federal Reserve. So you see the pattern of behavior and how much control they already had in America, and then several months later, they of course started World War One, which it became very lucrative for them since they were the ones, issuing out loans to various countries involved, starting with the US. They of course also controlled the English Central Bank, among other banks, by that point as well. So, again,↗

1:09:45Speaker 6It's, it's, it's also a reflection of their behavior. The Jews practice a tradition called Moshiach. They'll never seek to collaborate with gentile authorities to ever call out or condemn their own for violent crime or any type of crime really. And you see, part of the reason why they have the State of Israel is so that the rapists and pedophiles, rather than face prosecution for their crimes like Tom Alexander could then run off the trail and avoid, avoid that said prosecution. And you see, Tom Alexander hasn't been forced back by Israel despite the fact he tried to rape a fifteen So it's a real pattern of behavior for these boys, and it's part of the motivation for why they wanted the State of Israel, because they certainly didn't want to see another court case like Leo Frank, where a Jewish pedophile would be, you know, the case would be publicized and the world could see how these people really are. And it's part of the reason also that the, they have, they control the porn industry, 'cause that's the likes of both Al Goldstein and also Ron Jeremy put it, the reason why there's so many Jews in pornography is 'cause they like to rape young girls, especially Catholic girls. Mary Phagan was also Catholic. So this is just who these people are, it's a reflection of who they are, and all they can do is cry out anti-Semitism when in fact it's really just a reflection of who they are. They like to rape young girls as part of their culture and their religion↗

1:10:58Speaker 6They've done consistently in the tunnels of their synagogues, and, rabbis have even admitted this. I have one on tape who stated the reason why they like to, they sacrifice these young boys is because they hope they seek to revive the spirit of their, their so-called messiah, Menachem Mendel Schneerson, who was the old rebbe for Chabad Lubavitch. So Chabad Lubavitch and Benei Brith are so-called competing factions within Judaism that, essentially control, you know, the entire spectrum, the entire political spectrum Spectrum within America. One usually, like Beni Berth generally supports the liberal or democratic candidates, and Koval Uvich, you know, supports Trump and the Republicans, et cetera. So they control the outcome either way, doesn't matter who wins. Just wanted to add that context to so you can understand. Unfortunately, this was not an isolated incident. The Jews have been very well known for, you know, carrying out systematic rape and pedophilia and child trafficking, et cetera. They had the Freemasonry established back in the eighteen sixties in Argentina, and they had Based in New York as well, where they were consistently trafficking young girls all the way up to nineteen thirty-nine. This went on for many decades, you know, long before, of course, there was an Epstein or, you know, the Meyer Lansky's of the world And, you know, other, well-known pedophiles that you've, you know, I mentioned Arnold Rothstein as well. He trained them actually. He trained the likes of Meyer Lansky, Dutch Schultz, and the other members of the kosher mafia that made, you know, millions of dollars off their, their prostitution, their child trafficking, and their brothels, and their illegal card games, and the organized crime that, they like to blame the Italians for. So they really do hate the Catholics, as you can see. And, now you understand why↗

1:12:40Speaker 6I, congratulations on the book as well, and thank you again for sharing your story.↗

1:12:46@joann_marieThank you so much, Ruth, and it's true, they still call the prostitutes in, in Argentina and Brazil, pulacas, because of swi-swimming down. And, and Mary, I'm so sorry that I muted you, it's your, your microphone sort of echoes. If, if you want to respond, you can, please unmute.↗

1:13:08@joann_marieMary.↗

1:13:14@joann_marieOkay, I hope she figures out how to unmute it. And guys, please repost this page, follow Ian and David and, and Ruth and Mary, of course, and I. We need- Oh, there you are. Yeah. There I have. I figured↗

1:13:28@phagankeanit out.↗

1:13:30@joann_marieThank↗

1:13:30@phagankeanyou. I can↗

1:13:31@joann_mariefigure it out. We, we lost Phil, but hopefully he comes back. And thank you. Well, go for it, Mary.↗

1:13:36@phagankeanOkay, I wanted to, at least, because I know we're-- I don't know how much time we have, but I wanted to end on one thing that you all can, can do for me and to, to be known that right now, I'm sure you've heard of Fondy Willis, the assistant of the district attorney in Fulton County, the governor, former governor Roy Barnes, and the Rabbi Steven Lebow, and the ADL↗

1:13:59@phagankeanApril, right after they did the musical parade at the Fox Theater here in Atlanta, that she is reviewing the case on Leo Frank for an exoneration.↗

1:14:13@phagankeanWhat's up? Huh? Isn't that something? Yeah. So they're reviewing it and they have all the information. I heard that they wanted a new trial. Okay, I was re- I turn- I was turned down with the open records request again, that I asked for open records requests on the establishment of the conviction integrity unit, which started in two thousand and nineteen. And here's another thing that will really tick you guys off. In 2019, when Paul Howard, at the time, was the Fulton County DA, they announced it on the day of the murder of my great aunt,↗

1:14:44@phagankeanApril 26th, 2019. They established a conviction integrity unit to exonerate Leo Frank↗

1:14:54@joann_marieThese people are, are allergic to accountability. It's literally insane. But thank you so much, Mary. let's, let's go to a new hand. Godfrey, welcome. How are you?↗

1:15:06@g0dfr0yI'm very good, thank you Joanne, and, thanks for, holding this space. Mary, your courage is an inspiration to us all. Thanks for- Thank you. All that you do in, getting this story out, and, yeah, we're, we're all here for you. I was- Are you familiar with what happened to Andrei Yushinsky in Russia just a couple years before? No, I'm not. In 1911. So- In 1911, thirteen-year-old Andrei Yushinsky, a student at a, he was a student at a theological school in Kiev, in Kiev, Ukraine, he disappeared on his way home from school, his mutilated body was later found, he was stabbed over forty-seven times, and he was found dead. And there was, a man who they,↗

1:15:53@g0dfr0yfigured for the murder, Manahim Mendel Bay-Baylis. And there was a, a famous trial that occurred and basically it was found that there was ritual murder involved, but he was acquitted, and they spent the equivalent of a hundred million dollars in today's money to get him off. And, it's, look, I can't speak to the case because I wasn't there, but I, I, I'm pretty sure he was guilty given the amount of money that they, that they spent. and again, this is a hundred million in today's money, so think of the amount of resources they had to draw upon to defend this man in Russia, and this happened just a couple years before Leo Frank, so they had everything to lose with this case, and it makes sense why they, they tried to mobilize everything behind it, and I, I just, would encourage you to look into that because I, I think that It's no coincidence that they used the same tactics in, in America, just a couple years later, because they were found out over in Russia. And, yeah, I just wanted to bring attention to everybody, for what happened to Andrei Shandysky on, March twelfth, nineteen eleven.↗

1:17:09@phagankeanOkay, thank you very much for that information. I will go ahead and do some research on that. Thank you. Yes, it was, it's very strange how much money was spent with Leo Frank's defense, his defense attorneys at that time. Time was like fifteen thousand dollars, each, and of course, in today's time, it would've been a million dollars. So, but they spent that, Albert Lasker spent a lot of money, and they wanted to make sure he came out that he was not guilty because of antisemitism and didn't have a fair trial, just like what, what Wikipedia said that we heard earlier, and they just, you know, it's just what they do, and that's what they wanted to do, but what they don't tell you is- Is that the governor, like I said, was a member of the law firm that defended Leo Frank, and he isn't a hero, people. He, you know, he, he was bought and paid for. And, at one point in my career, I found out that, you know, I found a statement that said that he was given twenty-five thousand dollars because he was a legal member of the law firm, but I couldn't find it anymore. And so I didn't, I don't guarantee that that happened, but I-- my family always felt that, and they have-- there's And in that letter, they basically say the same thing that I discovered as well, so. But it's important to know that they spent lots of money, the North did, to--↗

1:18:32@phagankeanBut see, the problem, the issue that they had was that he had already been convicted. I think if they had gotten involved early on, he probably would have been found not guilty. Is what I think, because all the money they were putting into the case and the newspapers and, and all that the time, it was just the newspaper. So yeah, it was some yellow journalism there, but it mainly came from the north. And there's even quotes about Albert Lasker, the philanthropist, the Jewish philanthropist, who had beques of money. He admits that he thought, when we first met him, that an Albert Lasker, that they thought he was some kind of s-sexual pervert. It's in their biography. But they were determined to make sure↗

1:19:13@phagankeanReturn, but it, it hasn't so far. So we'll see what happens with Toni Willis and if she has the courage to tell the truth or not. The only problem that I have with her is we have a Senate committee here in Georgia that looks at some of the, the county DAs and the former Governor Roy Barnes is her attorney, and I'm not happy with that. I think that is such a conflict of interest. So that's my opinion.↗

1:19:38@phagankeanThank you. Thank you so much, Mara. Adam, very↗

1:19:40Speaker 6quickly, well, Jewish lawyers are known for getting into criminal law so they can defend their fellow pedophiles, you know, as, as Alan Dershowitz, famous defense criminal lawyer, he defended Jeff Epstein, of course, and he was actually very proud of the fact he got him that sweetheart deal that allowed him to be released from prison after thirteen months, including his work release, by the way, so he barely really served any jail time, he was allowed out of jail twelve hours a day to go to his office where he carried on↗

1:20:07Speaker 6Evelyn Friedman, who's the chief equi- he, he, he's an equity owner within, and he's one of the owners of Pornhub actually. They own about fifteen websites within his equity fund. And then of course, you've got Scott Weiner in California as well, he's another Jewish pedophile that advocates for reduced sentences for pedophiles. And what they actually do is train other Jewish lawyers on how to get reduced sentences or deals so this way their Jewish pedophiles can roam free within America and, within Canada as well. So you see that they have their own community, They're Jewish pedophiles on the street, free and clear. I can see why Bill just ran away 'cause his, coachee ears, 'cause his coachee ears were, I guess, offended by the fact that Jews, run the porn and sex industry.↗

1:20:50@phagankeanRight. Well, I think that Governor Roy Barnes, I know he's not Jewish, but his wife's grandfather was a member of the vigilance committee that lynched Leo Frank. So he and the rabbi have changed their stories a little bit over this last year. The fact that there was definitely no antisemitism at the trial, but the lynch, the vigilance committee was antisemitic. So that means that her grandfather was antisemitic. Really, Roy Barnes? Are you really... I think he's embarrassed and ashamed. And he shouldn't be. I mean, you know, they mur-- Leo Frank was a vicious pedophile and murderer.↗

1:21:29Speaker 2I'd like just like to add, Mary, that there is evidence of racial hatred that wasn't against the blacks coming, at the trial, but it was coming from, if I remember correctly, Frank's own family who stood up and called, the non-Jews, filthy Golem dogs or something along those lines. Oh, that↗

1:21:48@phagankeanwas Mrs. Frank. You're right. August 14th, 1913, according to the Atlanta Constitution. Counselor Dorsey was cross-examining the twenty girls, or twenty girls and some, and there were some boys, like in the, in the, between everything was between all the grand jury, the coroner's inquest, and the trial, the total of twenty people, and some of them were little boys. It wasn't just little girls that were talking about it. And he, he was mentioning some things, and asking her some questions, and she just jumped up in the middle of the courtroom and said, "Neither, this is what my family said, neither, and That was the first time antisemitism could have come into the case, but she was, you know, had to exit and go out. She had to leave the courtroom because of her outburst. Then the other time that came was the last day of the trial. His defense attorneys brought in witnesses to testify against the trolley crane, trolley train conductor, George Connolly, saying that he made comments that if he was on the jury, he would hang that Jew, and that's how they ended it. I'm telling you, their defense was that Jim Connolly did it, and that was it. They didn't have any other defense. And they, they-- and, and some of the books say that too, you know, that, that's what, that it was. They, they- He said that there was no way that they, he took the elevator, but the scuttle hole that they said, like the detectives had to go down to the basement, it's very tight and it's fourteen feet down to the ground and it's like two by four, and there was no way, 'cause Jim Conley was a very big man, that could he carry the body down. If anything, he would have thrown the body down, well there was no evidence during the autopsy report that she was thrown, she didn't have any broken bones or anything like that, you know, and she was dr To the furnace. So that's interesting too.↗

1:23:41@joann_marieAlright, thank you so much, Mary. And we have Sia that he needs to go to sleep soon, so let's go to him, and then I'll, I'll go back to you, Rabbi. I'm so sorry. Go for it, Sia.↗

1:23:51Speaker 7Yeah, thank you, Johan, and, all my friends here, love y'all. Bye-bye. I'm sorry I'll be quick, very quick. Johan, it's fine, don't worry. Don't worry. Thank you, thank you so much. Mary, ma'am,↗

1:24:09Speaker 7listening to you, I'm, I sit seven, about seven thousand miles away, and I felt, I felt every, every, ear that, that you shared. Wow.↗

1:24:21Speaker 8thank you.↗

1:24:22Speaker 7And I'm, yeah, yeah, and I'm sure that, all of us here, you know, feel the same way,↗

1:24:31Speaker 7I, I learned about, Little Mary, in two thousand and four. I lived in the area, and a friend of mine introduced me to her story, and actually I went to the site with them, wow, to the, to the grave site, yes,↗

1:24:45Speaker 8wow, and that was in two thousand↗

1:24:48Speaker 7and four. And, duty, duty before pleasure. but I, I just wanna say one thing here,↗

1:24:57Speaker 7I, I've always said that, you know, because we allowed the ADL to exist and, and, and to be strong, we have the Epstein list now because we didn't do anything about the ADL back then. Right. And this is, this is why we, we lost that little girl in Gaza, with the three hundred bullets and Rudolph. So it's, it's, you know, it's the same clan that is doing this↗

1:25:25Speaker 7heinous crimes, and, with impunity, and that's because it's, you know, I, I point the finger at myself first, you know, but because we didn't do anything, right? it continues. This, these crimes continue. What I really would love for everyone in here, and I'm not promoting anything, but we had a friend, who passed away, Matty, you guys know him probably.↗

1:25:56Speaker 7his wife is still doing the same thing, she's doing T-shirts. So why not, why not print a T-shirt, you know, celebrating the, the life of Mary Fagan, on her birthday, next birthday, you know?↗

1:26:11@phagankeanthat's June 1st.↗

1:26:13Speaker 7Her birthday was June 1st. Yes, yes. so, that, that shows solidarity and it, it brings awareness to the people, you know? so people can, can learn about, the memory.↗

1:26:26@phagankeanOkay, that sounds like a great idea. I was thinking about maybe I needed to do some marketing things because they, two new documentaries came out and was from, one was from PBS, of course, and I wrote 'em back and they came with us. Responded to me and, "Oh, we stand by our stuff, yeah." It was Henry Gates, oh, Henry Gates doesn't know anything about it. It was like a seven minute documentary, and I feel like I nailed him, and they didn't really like it, so they didn't like what I said, but that's okay, I had to say something, you know? It's, it's, it's got to stop, and-↗

1:26:57@phagankeanYou know, you're right. It, it's gotta stop. We gotta stop or do something about this so people know that what they're telling isn't the truth. Truth must win. And I'm sure Phil feels that way as much as I do. We must continue, and nothing's gonna stop us. And even when I'm gone, I'm leaving my legacy. I'm calling it Mary Fagan Keene Legacy. I'm leaving money so that the website and all the people that have worked for me, I have a team of people that work for me That they can continue when I'm gone, and then it will go down for generations so that she won't be forgotten. All↗

1:27:33@joann_marieright, God bless you, Marianne. We won't let her be forgotten, I promise you. We, we speak about this almost every day, so thank you so much. All right, Rabbi, welcome, go for it.↗

1:27:44Speaker 2Thanks, John. yeah, I just wanna say, Marianne, I've been following for a long time, big fan. I really hope that you succeed in this. I would love to see this light taken down once and for↗

1:27:57Speaker 2one is, do you think your family has a viable suit? I mean, in an academic sense anyway, because no one expects that anyone is gonna be able to go against, like, the literal heart of the Jewish legal machine and win. But do you think that your family has a viable suit against the ADL or any other of these Jewish hate organizations for any of the libel they've committed against your family? It might be worth considering simply for the discovery phase.↗

1:28:26@phagankeanI think there might be, but I mean, it's, it's, it's years and years and years ago, like with the nineteen four, nineteen, nineteen ninety-four change of the marker outside the grave of Mary Magan by the Marietta City Council, the rabbi, and Philip Goldstein, and all that, 'cause it made the newspapers. They, they were offended by the last statement. So, I think there might be. And,↗

1:28:48@phagankeanI know that, I would like to, I just haven't been able to, find a pro bono attorney You know, I don't think most of 'em will take it because of the ADL. They're afraid of the ADL, 'cause they can destroy you in a second,↗

1:29:02Speaker 2you know?↗

1:29:03@phagankeanAnd we all know that.↗

1:29:04Speaker 2Even if you could find someone willing to, like, they're literally going against every single, like, every Jewish lawyer in the country essentially, which is, it's, everyone is gonna be terrified of that.↗

1:29:16@phagankeanYeah, somebody has filed a lawsuit against the ADL, and they did let it continue, but I can't remember the name of that guy that's doing↗

1:29:23@joann_marieit. It Oh,↗

1:29:25@phagankeanokay. John?↗

1:29:27@joann_marieYeah, I'll, I'll, I'll search for his last name right now. He already settled the↗

1:29:30Speaker 1suit, though. It's settled now.↗

1:29:32@joann_marieOh, okay. It's already settled?↗

1:29:33Speaker 1Apparently, he did, yeah.↗

1:29:37@joann_marieDid he win?↗

1:29:39Speaker 6undisclosed deal, he didn't, mention the details, but, I mean, Elon Musk at one point sued the ADL as well, he withdrew his lawsuit because, well, he wanted to do his brainwashing to, to her, but yeah, John did provide an update on it, he posted about it a↗

1:29:54Speaker 2So, it might be worth reaching out to him and seeing how the suit went privately. You could find out some information maybe, but↗

1:30:00@joann_mariehe, he started following me yesterday.↗

1:30:03@phagankeanOkay, well maybe he's listening tonight. Yeah. You know, he can contact me through X.↗

1:30:09Speaker 2I'll↗

1:30:10@joann_marietry to reach out, yes.↗

1:30:11Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. You're definitely trying to connect.↗

1:30:13@phagankeanI just, I just wanna, you know, I just, you know, I'm sure he's gotten something out of it, you know? I just, you know, I, it's not about the money. Or anything like that for me. It's just that I just feel like they deserve to know what they're doing, what they've done to the family of a little girl. That's it. I don't want any money. I just want them to stop telling the lies. That's all.↗

1:30:38Speaker 2That is, I was, and this goes to the next part, but this is, this is where there's this pernicious cycle, right? Then it's, it's, it's a very Jewish thing, where Jewish interests revise history, and then, not satisfied to simply revise history, they optimize it and they use that rewritten history to obscure and rewrite future atrocities. In this case, for example, using the revised history as yet another example, the revised history of a young woman being raped and murdered by a Jewish man, to-- as another example of how Jews are hated for absolutely no reason And then use that to gain money, power, and both cover and sympathy for more Jewish perverts, right? Because now that you've established a precedent of, "Oh, look, people are willing to kill a Jewish person for absolutely no reason, just because he's Jewish," well, that means that any other Jewish person accused of a rape and/or murder, now we have to give them protection and we have to give them the benefit of the doubt that nobody else gets, because he's part of this group that- Mysteriously just gets hated for their identity and their ethnicity and their religion or whatever, and it just, it, it appears to be a locked up system and they definitely hold the keys to it. It's, the ADL is the ultimate gaslighting attack. They accuse your victims, you accuse your victims of hitting you for no reason, and then use that ac-accusation to make money and increase sympathy for the rapist and further traumatize not only the victim's family but all future victims of the same crimes, right? There's, there's another example of this, like, have you heard of the False Memory Sy-syndrome Foundation?↗

1:32:21@phagankeanNo, I haven't.↗

1:32:23Speaker 2The, the False Memory Syndrome Foundation was founded by, two parents who were accused, not even by the, accused by the husband of their daughter, who it came out he had learned that she had been abused by them in childhood, right? And they- They founded this foundation with a bunch of other people, all with very deep pockets,↗

1:32:48Speaker 2to put out the idea that people were suddenly coming up with false memories of being sexually abused, and then we need to somehow campaign and defend them. We need to defend the people that are being unfairly and falsely accused of sexual abuse, by their children or et cetera, et cetera. The people that founded it, like the two, the two parents that were accused of sexual abuse, were Jewish, and there was at least one apparent pedophile, his name was Ralph Underwager, in the founding organization, who reportedly stated that sixty percent of women that were sexually abused in childhood reported that the experience was good for them And that pedophiles can boldly and courageously affirm what they choose, they can say what they want is to find the best way to love, right? These are the people that created this foundation. Wow. Right? It was,↗

1:33:44Speaker 2all right, it, it engaged extremely questionable tactics that leaned heavily on intimidation and character assassination, and it was ultimately dissolved in twenty nineteen, but When you look at the, the whole story of this, of this organization and the ADL and others like it, you have to ask yourself, are these things real? Are they just the perfect gaslighting covered by the world's best gaslighters?↗

1:34:10Speaker 9could I add something to that while we're talking about gaslighting? Yeah, but,↗

1:34:14@joann_mariewe have a couple of hands and also, Mary, I muted you again because when you, when just use it kind of like as a walkie-talkie, when you talk, press it on and then press it off, because the, it, it gets really, it, there is a lot of sounds, so I'm so sorry, but I muted you again. Do you want to reply to that?↗

1:34:38Speaker 8Mary?↗

1:34:42Speaker 9Mary?↗

1:34:45@phagankeanThere I am. Okay, I figured out how to do it quickly this time.↗

1:34:48Speaker 2Okay.↗

1:34:51@phagankeanYou're learning. Just laughing at myself, you know. I have really enjoyed this, and I know I'm taking a lot of precious time from Phil, so- Oh, Phil, Phil cancelled. He, he was- I just think everyone should buy the documentary and go online, and that will help me tremendously, and, you know, look at all the new information that's happened since the, the pardon in nineteen eighty-six and how, how our family's been treated by organizations, and especially here in Georgia. And I did write newsletters, and my last- This newsletter was called Shame on Georgia, and I've included all fifteen newsletters in my new book as well. And there's a lot of in-information in there. I do all the falsehoods from Governor Barnes when he talks. I show up, y'all would be proud of me, as hard as sometimes I don't wanna go. But if I find out that he was speaking, I would go, I have, I flew to Savannah to hear Steve Owens speak about it when the conviction integrity unit came in two thousand and nineteen, when Governor Barnes went to Macon to talk to the law students, which they were required to come to the meeting, and I sat right in the front row, and I want you to know I do that, and, I'm there, and they gotta look at me while they're talking. And I'm proud of that. I never break down there, I'm just because I know that I have thrown them for a loop. And, and you know, and they just keep presenting the same thing over again, Roy Barnes. Oh, I'm absolutely sure he didn't get a boot. Oh, blah, blah, blah, you know, the man needs to shut up.↗

1:36:19@joann_marieYou're so right, Mary. Thank you so much for everything you're doing. And unfortunately, Phil had to cancel. He went to Alex Jones, and he's also tired. So, hopefully we can get Phil another day, but I'm, I'm just really happy that you're here. and we have Joa. Welcome, Joa. How are you?↗

1:36:40Speaker 1Hey, thank you. And, and Mary, thank you for your story. I just, because I know some of the audience that are down here, you know, I just wanted to bring up two things that, although this is a, a, a very old case, and you can see how meaningful it is this hasn't stopped, right? you have examples of Left to Hor, which is a, a sect in Latin America who's Jewish, who has, kidnapped American children. the Jewish American citizen that was funding Left to Hor was sentenced to twenty years in jail, I believe he served six, six months or six weeks, and he was let go,↗

1:37:24Speaker 1in a very strange case where the judge- Judge decided that he needed to be home to take care of his children, and there was no one else to be able to do it. So the guy that was funding the kidnapping and trafficking of children from the US that were twelve to fourteen years old, he got to go back home. and now even recently in Israel, you know, if you tell me if there was a case where fi- more than fifty people have come out and spoken out at the fact that they were sexually violated from the age of three to five years old Right? In Israel, more than fifty people have come out and testified this, done by Israelis. If that wouldn't be global news somewhere, that over fifty kids at the age of three to five have been raped,↗

1:38:12Speaker 1that would be in every newspaper across America if it was any country except Israel. And this is on Channel 12. You can see it on my timeline. You can see the video of the newscast of Channel 12, which is very pro- Government, speaking about the fact of this, this new, this new set that they, they call it, that was revealed of all these rapes happening to children, but this keeps on happening and they keep on being let, let go, just like Lefta Hor, they've been arrested several times and somehow they always get out,↗

1:38:51Speaker 1You know, there's always someone to pay the price, but it's never the leader who gets arrested. the leader does get arrested, but he gets to go home. it's always the underlings that wind up doing any time in jail. It's quite strange, and it's still happening today, you know, and we have, of course, we have the example of, Alexanderovich, which is the, the head of, head of digital intelligence in Israel who, who recently got to go home in America after soliciting A, a child for sex as well. So, you know, this has been going on for over a century, from Mary's story to today's story. And, yeah, we talk about Epstein,↗

1:39:32Speaker 1but I don't even-- like, fifty children aged three to five, I'm sorry, that to me is even more scandalous than Epstein for one reason. They're three to five. Right? We're not talking about the, twelve to fourteen, which is sad enough, but three to five, you need to be sick individuals to be doing this. And the Knesset currently is debating on whether they take them because of how it will look to the international community if they wind up taking them to, to court.↗

1:40:01Speaker 1this is, this is what we deal with, and I know that sounds extremely radical, but go look at, go look it up yourself. And, and Mary, once again, more power to you. I hope everyone's story gets heard from, you know, these radical people that, you know, just seem to get away with everything because they stick together, they act as a unit, and act as a tribe, and that's why I think we were going to have a really hard time defeating it, because Americans can't-- Americans have a hard time agreeing on, on almost anything, which is a great thing for debate, but when it comes to threats that America faces, the- The debate still happens, and that's not what happens when it comes to them. If they are under threat, they unite regardless if it's true or not.↗

1:40:46Speaker 1and that is a weakness for us, although it is a strength when it comes to other subject matters.↗

1:40:55@joann_marieThat was amazing, Joao. Thank you so much. And the, the people from Leveda, how are, when they get incarcerated for a little bit, they have the audacity to go and try to kidnap the same children over and over. Like these people are just genuinely insane. Oh yeah, they went,↗

1:41:10Speaker 1they went and got the twelve-year-old girl back because they said, "No, she was, she was married at eight. She needs to be given back to her husband." This was a girl from New York City.↗

1:41:21Speaker 6Yeah, so they were successfully prosecuted and expelled from New York, I don't know why they weren't jailed. Same thing in Canada, Guatemala, Colombia, Mexico, everywhere they go, they commit the same pedophilia crimes, forced marriage, forced pregnancies, and child trafficking. And, they tend to just claim land they don't pay for either, by the way, sounds familiar. And then they carry out their sex crimes with impunity, they never learn.↗

1:41:44Speaker 1And Israel says that they're, they oppose them and that they're a radical group that has nothing to do with them, but they've harbored Times already where they're like, "No, we expelled them from Israel. No, they didn't, they harbored them in the West Bank."↗

1:41:57@joann_marieand this is anti-Sionist Jews, everyone, so yeah. Anyway, thank you so much, Joanne. I, I love that you always talk about this because it's such, horrific thing and we need to stop it. And thank you so much. And Mary, I muted you again, so if you want to unmute, and reply, you can do so.↗

1:42:24@joann_marieMary? Oh, there. Okay, I got↗

1:42:26@phagankeanit. Good job. Oh, sorry, I got a Rottweiler and he's bugging me to go out, so I just ran down the hallway real quick to let him out. Because I knew I was on mute, and I was got, I got the phone with me going down the hall, my husband's laughing at me. So, anyway, yeah, it's very, it's very terrible what we have in this world, and it's, you know, I do pray that we can change it. And I want to be part of that change, and that's why I will always tell the truth about Little Mary, and you all have encouraged me, and the comments have been absolutely wonderful, so that I can continue and I don't feel alone, and y'all have made me not feel alone, and I appreciate that very much.↗

1:43:08@phagankeanI believe that you all care about, about Mary and what happened to her, and this is how this country started with all this stuff and the pedophilia and the traffic, and it got just worse and worse and worse, you know? So it's not a good story, but it's a story that needs to be told, and that's why I believe God has me here. And ironically, I don't have children. So, Bernard and I didn't have children, and so, you know, I was able to spend the time that I needed to do on this. But, like I said, all throughout my life I would only talk about it if someone asked me that question, "Are you by chance related?" When I went teaching in some of the schools, the superintendents would sing me the song, the ballad of Mary Fagan. There's a record about it, and I have it here in my office. I have a little s- area of, memorial for her up here. I have her original picture before she was murdered.↗

1:44:02@phagankeanthey tried to do a monument, and they did get it, and it was like paying ten cents. Isn't that cute? I mean, that's 33, so that was kinda cool, you know? And, and people do care about her, you know, it's just that, you know, the people that, especially here in Georgia, that are promoting all this really haven't read the right stuff And they should be ashamed of themselves. They are well-educated people, and it's just ridiculous that they like to have this power over our family, and I want them to know that they haven't succeeded.↗

1:44:43Speaker 2I would, I would like Mary, I would like to see you create an organization called the Victims of Child Rape Defense League and force, and force the ADL to oppose you publicly.↗

1:44:55@phagankeanOkay. Okay, 'cause I am working with a defense group in, California.↗

1:45:00Speaker 2Excellent. That was the, and I have,↗

1:45:02@phagankeanI have, put them on my list to do some things with them, and what, what did you call it? I'm sorry, could you repeat that? It w-it was a one-off.↗

1:45:10Speaker 2I wasn't, I wasn't really sure if it was actually gonna be due, but if I were playing this tactically I would create an organization that was something like, the Victims of Child Rape Defense League, right? And then operate from under that organization name or something similar to it. And then anytime the ADL tries to fight you, it looks like the ADL is attacking the Victims of Child Rape↗

1:45:34@phagankeanOkay. Well, they have never attacked me, and so, you know, forced them to↗

1:45:39Speaker 2attack you. Come back, go up.↗

1:45:42@phagankeanOkay. Okay. All right. All right. That sounds good. I'm, I am part of a defense fund that I, that I'm donating to, so... And, so I have donated to them to, to help me think about what I possibly can and can't do, you know what I'm saying? But, like I said, it's just, unfortunately, to me, it's not about money, but in order to do anything↗

1:46:04@phagankeanWhat's about truth? Yeah, and it's true. And my, but my tactic is to change it around, and I'm gonna do like an eight-part podcast documentary on all the hosts and everything, and bring it to their attention, and quote Jonathan Greenblatt and everything, and say the dates that he said it, and then share with him what is the truth that he's not telling the truth.↗

1:46:23Speaker 2If you want, if you want help with that, Mary, let me know. I'm not an expert, but I can do, script writing, video editing, I can help↗

1:46:34@phagankeanPersonally, email me or text me through that X account.↗

1:46:37Speaker 2Yeah, you can, you can DM me. Yeah, definitely do that. But, it's, it's about the truth, and unfortunately, we've, we've been taught as children that the truth always wins just because it's the truth, and it turns out that isn't true. It turns out that the people that, yeah, the funding for the lies is so great and so massive coming from these Jewish organizations that they do beat the truth if you don't have the energy, the resources, and the money to advocate for the truth. And I think that, for me, this isn't about one person or it isn't about the Jews or it isn't-- but it's about making sure the truth has it, has a chance to prevail. Because if we lose that, we have nothing. Lose that, we're- Basically, we're, we're gonna be, we're gonna descend into chaos. it's the only thing that's keeping us together at this point.↗

1:47:26@phagankeanYeah, I agree with that. And it's just important to, to me that I needed to let the truth out and, I had those feelings and that, you know, God answered what I was supposed to do and my husband totally is behind me and, and anything I do. And so, you know, that kind of thing. So I, right, you↗

1:47:47@joann_marieguys are gonna make a great team, I, I love it. There is a little cartoon that they made about Leo Frank, I don't know if you've seen it. I will search for it and tag you under it because it's really, it only lasts a couple of minutes, but it's like the overall, explanation of what happened, and I, I think it's really cool for people who, who don't know about this, right?↗

1:48:09@rosegar32657259Right.↗

1:48:10@joann_marieBut thank you so much, Marian, God bless you. Alright, we have Vintage Bunny.↗

1:48:19@rosegar32657259Thank you so much for, for bringing me up, and, I just wanted to tell Mary that I'm very, happy to, to meet her, and I myself am, up in age. I'm an elderly lady, but, years ago, I'm originally from Louisville, Kentucky, and in the summertime, me and my mom, we would set out on the swing set outside And we would sing songs together, and my mother taught me the song about Little Mary Fagan. And, we would sit out there and we would sing that song, and we would cry, me and my mom both would cry, and then we would go inside And I'll kneel down beside my bed and, and pray for her. And I just wanted to share that with you. And I never thought in a million years that I would ever get to talk to someone or meet someone who was, who was actually, a descendant of her. And I'm just very honored. And, I just wanted to say that,↗

1:49:32@rosegar32657259and, thanks for bringing me up.↗

1:49:35@joann_marieHi, God bless you and Mary. I, I muted you again, I'm so sorry. No, that, that was so beautiful, vintage.↗

1:49:46@joann_marieMary, would you like to unmute and reply to her?↗

1:49:51@phagankeanOkay. That is just very, very touching. Thank you so much. When I, I first heard The Ballad of Mary Fagan when I was a senior in high school in 1972, and a bunch of us girls were spending the night, and Margaret Ann Vines' mother and father had an old Victrola, and Margaret said, "Did you know there was a song about Little Mary Fagan?" My dad had mentioned it to me, but he said he lost the record and he couldn't find it. Well, they have the record,↗

1:50:22@phagankeanand they played it for me, and it- It was just amazing to hear it. it was country, of course, 'cause Fiddlin' John Carson and his daughter Rose Carson sang it, and Fiddlin' John Carson came up with this ballad because that's when the Governor Slayton commuted the sentence of Leo Frank, and he stood on the court, on the court, court steps singing the song of the ballad, and, I have the record now, they gave me the record. And I had it framed like a gold record for my dad for one Christmas, and he literally broke down in tears. I mean, you know, it starts out "Little Mary Fagan," she went to town one day, she went to the pencil factory to get her weekly play. Little did she know that Leo Frank-- and it's just a beautiful, beautiful song, but to hear them actually sing it, you know, I kind of chuckled because it was so southern, if you understand what I'm saying. I mean, it was like "Little Mary Fagan," she went to town one day, but↗

1:51:23@phagankeanYou know, it, it just was a beautiful thing that they were all just, very upset with the governor. In fact, they had the, the militia come out to the governor's mansion 'cause they even hung him in effigy, on the, in, near the mansion and everything because of him commuting the sentence, because, like I said, the family ag-- and they, the people thought that he was a law member of the firm And a partner in the law firm that defended Leo Frank, and they felt like he was bought and paid for. Of course, he was never welcome in Georgia again after he did that. So that was interesting too. But, you know, a lot of people, profiles in courage came out, with us, where I think Walter Mathieu played, Governor Slayton, and they call him, a hero. To our family, George,↗

1:52:08@phagankeanSlayton wasn't a hero. He wasn't a hero. He just- Was not. Although what I find amazing is like with the rabbi and the governor here in the state, they never use Slaton's commutation for the resources, you know, because he denies there were mobs and hang the Jew and all the antisemitism that they claim happened, and he dis-- he denounces it totally in his commutation, but they never tell you that. So it's very selective what people tell us about this case, and I'm being unselective, and I'm telling what really happened, and this is what we need to do as a family, and my brother and sister support me, and the rest of my family does, and we, for example, had a young family member that was in eighth grade, and in eighth grade they study social studies here, and the ADL puts out a curriculum about Leo Frank And Mary Fagan, but it was more about Leo Frank than Mary Fagan. And of course, she had the name Fagan, and, my cousin jerked her out of class for those days that they talked about it, because, you know, they're eighth graders, that why do they need to know something like that at age thirteen, four? You know? But it's all about Leo Frank and the governor. Even the textbook they study, the name of the textbook, I believe the heading is Anti-Semitism and the Lynching of Leo Frank. That's what they study about this case. They don't study about Mary Phagan.↗

1:53:36@phagankeanThey study about Leo Frank.↗

1:53:39@joann_marieWell, I hope we change that. And I didn't know there was a song about Mary Phagan. That's beautiful. I'm gonna listen to it after this space. And thank you so much. And wonderful story, very funny. Thank you. All right, we have now done Stone Scoper, I don't know,↗

1:53:56Speaker 9go first. Hey, what's up? Mary, it was, it was honestly heartbreaking to hear the fact that I've never heard of this story, and the fact that it's one of the fundamental reasons as to why the ADL even exists in modern America is this presiding case. The world is way smaller than I think any of us here know. The fact that we're talking to Mary, the fact that Phil came on the space, we had people across the sea come in and tune in and hear about it who actually visited Mary's grave in Atlanta. And I, I think it goes back to the thing about the falsity of the memories. This was a huge thing during the Satanic Panic, where Elizabeth Loftus,↗

1:54:45Speaker 9is one of the lead people that got the case dismissed because they claimed that the Martin preschool, the McMartin preschool, all of those kids had false memories and they all thought the same thing happened at the same time. And the fact that they try to erase the memories and erase history as it is is one of the key tenets of their power, is just absolutely silencing and steamrolling anything with, veracity. And they'll continue to do it for a hundred years, even though you keep your story the same, Mary, and you're, the Case was already denied, retrial, et cetera, and he was lynched publicly.↗

1:55:31Speaker 9I think it's one of those things where every major case about pedophilia or abuse, by religious standards is, is always with this particular ADL thing, they always make it a, a point that it's about a religious deal, but never about any- or content of, of anyone. No one ever, brings up the fact that All of these people are terrible people before this even comes out that they had, did terrible things, beyond normal atrocities. When you look into it, all of them do publicly, you know, you talked about the pencil factory, and he's one of those people that were knocking people's wages down and not giving them a fair, fair wage. I mean, he was a terrible person to begin with beforehand. So then these Elizabeth Loftus characters come in, and their whole goal is, is to eliminate the idea that our memories, the idea that our brains are faulty in, in recognizing the fact that these atrocities do go on. And of, the interesting part about Eliz-Elizabeth Loftus that actually- Presided over the McMartin preschool case, by the way. These are preschoolers that they did this to. And if you're not familiar with the case, there was tunnels and they had airplanes that trafficked these children, to other parts of California, and apparently all of the kids don't remember going underneath the entire school and going to an airstrip and being flown around California,↗

1:57:18Speaker 9to be sexually abused. So they actually presided in the, the case with, Ghislaine Maxwell, and Elizabeth Loftus is one of the few people that remained, unnamed, honestly, in a lot of these cases. She's really powerful, too. The world's really small. She's, she's helped a bunch of people get off on these cases, she's one of the lead people that, you know, they call in these lawyers, they call in during a, a pedophilia case against Jews, especially, that they just cite the fact that memories,↗

1:58:00Speaker 9Can be falsified, that people just falsely remember being sexually abused with fifteen other kids. It's very, sad, and the fact that, Robert Maxwell, they, they kill, in, in a lot of the other cases, nowadays with their gross amount of power and money and influence in the media with the ADL And they're able to stifle things and, kill other people,↗

1:58:30Speaker 9like Virginia Guffray, during the twenty fifteen case, Robert Sweet, h-he was the lead litigation person for that lawsuit, he was the judge, from twenty fifteen to twenty nineteen when he was killed. And, his whole family said nobody had any-- he wasn't ordered to judge, but, no one thought that he was even slightly in, in a bad health case. He was full of life. All the people that knew him said they were full of life, and it was one of the first cases,↗

1:59:04Speaker 9where it was in the trial, that they had discovery, for Ghislaine Maxwell and the, the ring and Maxwell's role in recruiting girls was brought out, the structure of Epstein's operation, the identities of numerous associates, et cetera. But he, he's dead now, and the, the case got, you know, brushed, brushed over and then in,↗

1:59:34Speaker 9And subsequently after, they, they allowed the entirety of the case to be public, the litigation, the discovery, everything was, was public information now because, of Robert's death, that he was one of the first people to make it, You know, a, a thing to get discovery on these networks, i-i-there's a network of these people that get together and, like I said, the, the Elizabeth Loftus is in that network, and these people Are so tied into our government and our legal system that even so, even the truth can be denied in spite of the fact that the, the people in the system work for these people. corrupt cops are one of the, you know, easiest examples of this, but judges on the McMartin case completely ruled out any- Wrongdoing, and then in the eighties there was an investigation open up at the McMartin Preschool and found backfilled tunnels, and this is what started the Satanic Panic, and it, and it all, you know, continues with the ADL, and it's sad that Mary, that you're↗

2:00:51Speaker 9Your family was one of the core tenants of the fact that they need to make it even harder for us to get together and find them legally liable in this, structured case and make it about a religious standpoint. I just think it's really important that we, we understand that we do have power, and Mary, we're talking to you, the fact that you have the backbone to get up here and talk about it, and Phil, continually You know, broadcasting his, his life experience of that terrible atrocity.↗

2:01:27@phagankeanYes.↗

2:01:28Speaker 9It's, it's amazing that, that we're all able to actually talk to each other, and it just goes to show that we actually do have a sliver of America left for us. We actually do, we're actually alive, and we actually can make a difference. Mary, I, I, I love you as an American, and I hope you continue on your fight. I wish you all the luck. Godspeed.↗

2:01:51@joann_marieThank you. Thank you so much. Alright, we have Jesse Alba. Welcome, Jesse. Go for it. Hey,↗

2:01:58@jessedalbahey. Hey, sorry if you called me earlier, my microphone went out. Oh, crap, I'm losing connection again. Give me a second. Can you hear me?↗

2:02:05@phagankeanYeah. Yes, yes.↗

2:02:12@joann_marieOkay, we're gonna go to JP and, and I'll go back to Jesse. JP, welcome, go for it.↗

2:02:19Speaker 10Yes, hello, thank you. So, Mary, it's, it's, it's an honor to share this living history with you, and I, I commend you for keeping your ancestor's story alive. I just had a quick, suggestion to, to piggyback on top of, Rabbi's suggestion of, forming some kind, some kind of an organization. d-d-d-did you, you kicked around a name or two, but I got to thinking, Anti-Degenerate League. ADL, I thought would be more appropriate, and I even checked the domain name is available.↗

2:02:56Speaker 2No, no, no, that's not gonna work. It's not gonna work. No. The point is, the point is to create for yourself, it's-- The point is to ape their playbook.↗

2:03:04Speaker 10You have to be such a party pooper.↗

2:03:06Speaker 2The Anti-Defamation League chose their name purposely. They chose the name for it. I'm, I'm serious about this 'cause there's, there's a reason for this. The Anti-Defamation League didn't name their league the Jewish Defense League. They didn't name their league the,↗

2:03:23Speaker 2Hebrew Victims Defense League. They named it the Anti-Defamation League because they wanted to appeal to a universal ideal that's held by people, an ideal that they simultaneously do everything they can to, to break, right? The main business of the Anti-Defamation League is defamation. That is their reason for being, that is their raison d'être, right? Is the reason they exist Is to defame the enemies of Jews, right? Their name is an inversion. It is a complete, and it is a strategic one, because if you attack the ADL, now it looks like you're attacking the people that are defending the victims of defamation, right? And so the recommendation that I made, it was part of it was a joke, but the other, it was also part very serious, because when you are choosing names for an organization like this, you have to remember Half of the fight against anyone is making them fight something that onlookers will want to be, will, will take your side on, right? So if you're creating, if you're creating organizations like this, right? Mary Fagan, right? It's, it's ostensibly gonna be in defense of Mary Fagan, but anyone looking at a fight between Mary Fagan Defense League and ADL, right? Is gonna say, well, the ADL already has an established cachet of goodwill and Mary Fagan, I don't know who that person is, right? And so they're gonna be more inclined, especially with the pressure to go along with whatever Jewish interests ask you to go along with at the threat of losing your job or your career or whatever, right? They're more likely to take the side of the ADL You have to force people into a choice that is going to be, difficult. You gotta make it difficult for them to take the side of your adversary. And the best way to do that is to choose a strategic name that forces them, that forces your adversary to fight something that is an objective good, right? And in this sense, and I just made up on the spot, I don't recommend you go with this verbatim, but like the Child Rape Victims Defense League or whatever it is, it basically you're forcing the ADL to go against Victims of child rape, which anyone looking at that, at that like fight from a third person point of view is gonna say to themselves, and this is part of the, part of the, part of the tactic, why is the ADL attacking the victims of child rape? Which is exactly what you want them to be thinking when they look at that conflict, right? And so you can, if you do something like this in, in the right way or well enough, you can basically go up to ADL and do whatever you want, I mean, within the bounds of law, within the bounds of reason, obviously, and they don't have a way to come back at you without making themselves look like the bad guys.↗

2:06:12Speaker 9I second that. And the court of public opinion, subversion of, of, feelings is what they take advantage of, Rabbi. You're perfect on that. Thanks. I have great↗

2:06:21@joann_mariewith Rabbi as well. Thanks. Thank you. Hey, my↗

2:06:25@jessedalbastuff works now. Sorry. Very sorry. Okay,↗

2:06:28@joann_marieI'll go to you in a second. Let's just see what Marie has to say, and then I'll go to you. I'm with the Rabbi.↗

2:06:36@phagankeanBeautiful, we all are. Okay, thank you. I think he's been on before, if it's the same person I'm thinking it is. I mean, I think I've, we've heard him before, and he's, he's very, very good at what he says and states, and I think he's right, you know? you know, 'cause I thought like Little Mary Fagan is not forgotten, that's what I wanna call the documentary, maybe, you know, something like that. But I gotta, I gotta tie it in, I think, to like the AD↗

2:07:06@phagankeanSo much as to why is the ADL doing this to her as well as-- and then there's other people, like he says, there are other victims out there, we just gotta find 'em. You know, who are they? And I'm sure that they don't have books written about it. I mean, this case is very famous because it is the beginning of the ADL. And so her murder started it, and, you know, you look at it and you think, "Well, you know what? You wouldn't have never been formed had this happen. You know, had your pedophile Leo Frank, factory superintendent, make passes at all these little boys and girls in the factory and taken advantage of them for, for ten cents or twelve cents an hour, 'cause she only made a dollar twenty, that, that she was picking up for the work that she did, you know?" So it's, it's interesting, but I like what he says.↗

2:07:55@joann_marieAlright, thank you so much, right. Alright, Jesse, welcome back. I'm so↗

2:08:02@jessedalbasorry about earlier. Like, I've been having, I'm a mess, I guess. How's everybody doing? Good. Hi, Mary. I'm gonna introduce myself 'cause I haven't seen you yet. I'm not in spaces too often, but I'm a YouTuber. I just kinda troll a little bit in the comments, but I've been getting kinda like red-pilled lately, and I've been seeing like what's going on between Thomas Massie and like the Florida election currently being bought out. They just, Byrnes dot and friends just gave the Florida GOP a million dollars on the fourteenth, and then they coincidentally changed the rules so no one could debate.↗

2:08:36@jessedalbayou, you see He said I don't wanna work for a Jew, which isn't exactly appropriate, but he's a kid, and they're ruining his life. Like, are things actually gonna ever change? 'Cause like, this stuff is actually breaking my heart. Like, it's making me depressed, and I'm seeing it every day, and I'm seeing more of it every day. What do you guys do? Like, it's genuinely, like, I'm getting really depressed.↗

2:08:59@phagankeanI have a lot of tears, I'm gonna be honest. You know, and it just pops up. I can be in the car, I can be outside. I, I do meditate. I have to do things for me to make my mind clear and so that I can stay focused on not getting depressed. I, I've never been depressed about it, I don't think, but I know that it's in my thoughts and I, but I, I cry, you know, for her and for other children. And, you know, every-- That's why the news just upsets me with all the trafficking and stuff, and I had to put it aside for a while. I just couldn't handle it. So that's my way of getting out of it, but I will never get out of it because it's part of my life and it's a real thing to me. For some people, it's↗

2:09:46@jessedalbaThat like, like the smallest comments could like ruin people's lives. like I'm seeing it happen every single day, and it's like, it's almost like our politicians in America is controlled by Israel, and there's nothing we can do about it, and it's like it's never gonna change, and we're gonna lose our militaries, and it's like, what the hell is going on? Hey Jesse, you know I do. I play↗

2:10:06Speaker 5Mario Kart. I play this character called Luigi, and it makes me less stressed out.↗

2:10:11@joann_marieJesse, you are just hearing about this now because Attention, but this has been happening for over a hundred years. You can't unsee it though,↗

2:10:21@jessedalbalike, you know?↗

2:10:22@joann_marieYeah, but I mean, if you saw how it used to be about three years ago, it's a completely different world right now, and we're winning, the cow is out of the bag, and it's not going back. So don't get depressed, just keep talking about it and keep pushing forward and surround yourself with a positive environment who will help you, and it, it will be It, it will be okay. Just don't get depressed, like seriously, it will be okay.↗

2:10:52@joann_marieAnd, and Mary, I'm sorry I'm muted you again. There is like, if you keep it open, there is a lot of sounds that come out and, and it's pretty bad.↗

2:11:00@jessedalbaBut- Well, that's all I wanted to say. I'm good. I don't need to steal the floor. I'm not in spaces often. I don't wanna steal the space for three followers, so thanks for letting me speak.↗

2:11:08@joann_marieWell, thank you so much for coming up, and God bless↗

2:11:15@joann_marieThe fourth, welcome, go for it.↗

2:11:19Speaker 11Oh, thank, thank you so much, Joanne and Ian. Of course, epic space, as usual, man. and, you know, my thing is, so the, the, the, everyone who's spoken has been brilliant so far. The spe-the gentleman who was just speaking, just saying, "Hey, what do we do about this?" I, I have a solution that possibly-- and I'm just throwing out something that's just possible, like, "This is just one thing we could↗

2:11:45Speaker 11I do believe in peaceful protests. I look at Gandhi, that guy's like one of my idols, a peace, mass peaceful protests, he was able to get the British Empire out of his country. He's like, "Get out of here, guys." I think if we do, 'cause there's only two ways to, to, to fix the lobbying, like look at, look at Mary McAdams, right? She donated a hundred, she's really, really, I think TruthTeller knows the real amount, it's like over↗

2:12:06Speaker 11two hundred million, like, I don't want this war, I want gas to be in half like Trump promised during the campaign.↗

2:12:20Speaker 5Of course, of course. I, I'm gonna have to burst your bubble a little bit, just a little bit. I'm sorry, yeah. Oh, sure. Gan-- Gandhi was a pedophile and, you know, he was a hardcore rapist. I wasn't aware of that. That, that, that's true.↗

2:12:33Speaker 11That's true. It is true,↗

2:12:34Speaker 5of↗

2:12:35@joann_mariecourse,↗

2:12:36Speaker 5it is. He used to sleep with his niece, who was 13 years old,↗

2:12:44Speaker 5So the thing is, is that if you wanna be democratically elected as leader of a country, you sort of have to be a pedophile and a bit of a racist, 'cause that seems to be↗

2:12:53Speaker 9Gandhi's message. Well, and the Brit-- the British left six thousand troops there and they were killed. It's, it was a mass, killing of British people in India.↗

2:13:03Speaker 11It was successful, right? They didn't get them out, Gandhi didn't get them out.↗

2:13:08Speaker 9Well, it wasn't peaceful, like you said, it wasn't just like a coup d'état and they got down to 6,000 people. Did Gandhi ever lead↗

2:13:14Speaker 11an armed rebellion?↗

2:13:17Speaker 9I didn't say that. I just said it wasn't a peaceful, eviction of British, of British people from India. It was a mass slaughter of 6,000 British people.↗

2:13:27Speaker 11You might honestly, you might be, you might be, you're the honestly way more of an expert on that issue than me, and, and, and honestly, y'all are more expert on Gandhi↗

2:13:37Speaker 11But, but let me just, let me just say this, him and MLK, alright. And by the way, MLK was another one clearly not perfect by any means, alright, as an individual. But, but there's only two ways to do this. There's only two ways to do this, violence or peaceful, mass peaceful protest, but intelligent with a specific demand that doesn't end until the, that, that intelligent demand is met. In our case, now, we don't want Mary and Addison to be able to- Bye. For two hundred million dollars. Now, I don't get gas for half price off. My life is not worth more. Just, just to bust a↗

2:14:09Speaker 5little, just another little bubble. Martin Luther King was also a massive Zionist. Oh, sorry, say that again? So Martin Luther King, Junior was a mass Zionist.↗

2:14:21Speaker 11Dude, that dude, yeah, dude, like I said, man, none of these guys are perfect. I don't come back. The Kohneman, the Kohneman is not coming back. Don't come back. Don't come back. The Kohneman is not coming back. The Kohneman is a mass piece of prussis. I don't care about the guys. I don't. No, nobody's perfect. The, the, those guys weren't, alright?↗

2:14:34@joann_marieOkay. Thank,↗

2:14:38Speaker 5thank you for- When it comes to Imperfect, we've got, we've got a pedophile, who's also a racist, and then we've got- Well, then fuck him, too. By the way, by the way, so Imperfect, Imperfect But it's seriously imperfect. But the, I think the point I'm making is, is that really you, you, you just can't, you, you can't really store your hopes in a human being. You, you know, you re- it's just, they just turn out to be such horrors.↗

2:15:22@joann_marieI agree with Akonji and Mary if you want to talk, I muted you again. There is a lot of sounds that come out if you keep the mic open, so I'm so sorry, but it's just how spaces are.↗

2:15:36@joann_marieDo you want to add something or should we go to the next hand?↗

2:15:41@phagankeanI, I don't wanna add anything.↗

2:15:42@joann_marieOh, okay. Thank you so much for, for being here, though. All right. Could I↗

2:15:46Speaker 5ask, what, what is wrong with violence? Why, why are we against violence? I don't, don't really understand. Because we get↗

2:15:51@joann_marieour space. Because we don't want to play into the system,↗

2:15:54Speaker 11sir. You have to be more honest about money. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're, we're not↗

2:15:59@joann_mariegonna do↗

2:16:04@joann_mariethat. Do it, do it, do it, do it. No, no, no, no, no, no,↗

2:16:10@phagankeanThank you so much for having me. I've been-- I just want to say I've been listening to this for the last couple of hours while I've been on a hike in the mountains. So, whoever was asking about what to do, To, to kind of combat some of the, the reality of, of this stuff, which is so hard and painful. Get out, get some sun, exercise, it really does make a big difference. I also just want to say thank you so much to Mary. Listening to you is so inspirational, it is so motivating, especially coming from a woman. A woman championing, the life and truth of what happened to- Your ancestor, little Mary Fagan, is truly,↗

2:17:01@phagankeani-it's amazing. And as a woman, being able to hear this story and hear how hard you work for how many years, I'm just eternally grateful, a-and however I can offer my support is there. A-again, you aren't alone, and we are right there with you, and we are learning from you in ways that are- Life changing and hopefully will change the lives of many, many women and young girls for the future. And I'll land there. Thank you. Could I,↗

2:17:34Speaker 5could I thank you, Mary, as well? Because, you know, up until today, I've never had a positive lynching story, but your story, that's, you know, that's, that's- So exception that proves the rule, you know, that proves the rule, doesn't it?↗

2:17:47@phagankeanY'all making me cry and laugh at the same time, I'm telling↗

2:17:51Speaker 9you. I was wondering why they stopped public lynchings, and it took over a hundred years for us to stop doing it, and I think that would have been a huge factor in, like, deterring people from doing this shit. I think, I↗

2:18:03@phagankeanthink that's- Well, and that's, that's the other thing too is, you know, a lot of people, put claim that this, the lynching was connected to the KKK, that was another hoax, and that was not true. I found out that it was due to the movie The Birth of a Nation, and everybody, prints that there was some of the Vigilance Committee members up in Stone Mountain, and as far as I know, there was only two or three, and, you know, I, I won't release the names↗

2:18:32@phagankeanThere's no purpose in that. You know, in fact, m-my family has known when-- in '87, when I wrote the book, I could have made a bookooz of money. I made money, but I could have made bookooz if I had named all the Lynch group members, 'cause we knew who they were.↗

2:18:45@joann_marieBut isn't it crazy that Dale Frank was so guilty that even the KKK stepped in and said, "That black man, oh,↗

2:18:54@phagankeanthat isn't true." No, that's not true.↗

2:19:00@joann_marieThat isn't true? No, that's not true. Oh↗

2:19:02@phagankeanYeah, it didn't happen, and, you know, it was just that they, they just felt strongly about, the birth, the birth of a nation and everything. It had nothing to do with the Knights of Mary Fagan, the KKK didn't get involved at all, with it. It was, something that I wanted to find out that one thing I said, "No, I questioned about my oral history with my daddy," and he was right, that the KKK didn't reignite or become-- But we-- he always, we, we might have That until I did all the research and everything. And when I wrote the first book, The Grand Wizard of the KKK here in Georgia asked me to autograph his book, and, I did.↗

2:19:44@phagankeanI did. Because he cared about a little girl that was murdered. And, you know, of course, I had family with me. I never went anywhere alone. My family doesn't let me go alone. You know? So either try to have a male, family member to go with me. Of course, they're much taller than me, so that helps a lot. but yeah, you know, my dad said that, you know, and my dad was-- We, in the '80s, we were in a quandary with the KKK marching to Mary's, grave and wanting to put a wreath, and my dad had no, no opposition to that. He said anybody can honor Little Mary Fagan, and they were honoring her. And, it didn't matter, but, you know, we didn't attend at all like that. Those kinds of things I don't attend. in fact, they're very rare now, but↗

2:20:31Speaker 2unfortunately, unfortunately, you have to be very vigilant because, Jewish tactics are extremely, extremely intelligent, and it is just like them to, use their influence over the KKK, 'cause we know that at least one of the, founders of the KKK was, was Jewish. And Benai↗

2:20:50@joann_marieBreif. And Benai Breif, too, yeah. And↗

2:20:52Speaker 2they, they, it's exactly their playbook to get the KKK to support you so that they can defame you as being somehow linked to KKK.↗

2:21:00@phagankeanYeah, and there is no link, there is none.↗

2:21:05@joann_marieYeah, Judah Benjamin was part of the KKK, and Benjamin- That was it.↗

2:21:09Speaker 2Yep. He was actually the f- he was like, I think he was the, he was the founder, and he was one of the founders, and he was extremely, like, he was the money man, like, he was the guy that burned all the money to↗

2:21:21@phagankeanRight. Right. So it's just got a very interesting history, this case, and, you know, one of the things that I found out too that really shocked me is that the William Burns Detective Agency is our current CIA and FBI.↗

2:21:38@phagankeanAnd it started in 1913. Wait, what, what, what? Our FBI, our current FBI and the CIA that we have, started because of the murder of Mary Fagan, the detectives became, involved and they started that agency.↗

2:21:53Speaker 6The CIA started in 1948. They had the OSS before that, the Office of Secret Service, I think it is. Yeah.↗

2:22:00@phagankeanThe FBI was one of those, I was surprised that William Burns, he was, a detective in the case that was- Let's just say he wasn't very nice. I think he's the guy who visited Epstein as well. I think he's the guy who took him out. I didn't hear that.↗

2:22:21Speaker 11Oh, I'm sorry. I think he, I think he visited Epstein as well. I think he might be like an Epstein guy, I don't know if that's true. I think I remember from the Wall Street Journal.↗

2:22:30Speaker 2Okay. I was just gonna very quickly, while you guys were talking, I'm looking up the end of lynching. And lynching, the, the public campaign against lynching happened, between, from nineteen twenty, it really began, it went from nineteen twenty to nineteen thirty-six, and it was attributed, like the end of lynching was attributed to this campaign, that the NAACP, engaged in, they flew a banner outside of its New York City office with the words, "A man was lynched yesterday, every time someone was lynched." And, yeah. And, that and the NAACP, and so it's, it's interesting to me because of the timing, right? So 1915 is when Mary Faye, is when Leo Frank was lynched, I think, right? Yes. Okay. So that means only five years. So essentially, pe- people weren't quite happy to let lynching continue until a Jew was lynched. And then immediately five years later, you see the NAACP, which is also started by Jews, like it was, the leadership was all Jews. Which is an only Jewish organization, suddenly comes up with this anti-lynching campaign that eventually ends the practice of lynching. Those are two very interesting dots to connect↗

2:23:38Speaker 9Yeah, I, that's what I brought up, Rabbi. As soon as she said that he was publicly lynched, I was like, "Holy shit!" And then she starts talking about the FBI now being included into this, and our, detectives, our highest grade detectives, we're working on this case. This seems like a really, lost pivotal point in history. Seriously, like the lost history title is the perfect thing on this.↗

2:24:01Speaker 2Yeah, a lot is, a lot is happening around this inflection point, you know?↗

2:24:05@phagankeanRight. There's just so much involved That you can't, I, I have a lot of the knowledge and everything in the research. I had like, what, fifty-eight years worth of research when I realized, when I started when I was thirteen, when I found out, but when I started really digging into it was fifteen, sixteen, and seventeen. And then of course, I had my career and, stuff. But, you know, I-- Every summer, Dad and I would go, like I said earlier, and, and just review all the original documents of all three newspapers. We would take one newspaper and go through. So On my, probably on X, and my website is called a "You Are There" segment when the trial starts in July 28th, and we're gonna t-put the top three newspapers out there and put the ones that we thought would be important for the public to know, and it just shows that everything that we're discussing tonight, how, how I discovered everything and how the current novels or authors are doing, and that, you know, some of them, in my opinion, I now say, even though he's passed, I know you shouldn't say things bad about him Dead people, but Leonard Dershowitz, I felt like committed academic fraud. And that guy from the,↗

2:25:14@phagankeanthe, the Clark Clark freshman is the one that called him out, that was helping them get the pardon. They said he didn't really review the sources, he just quoted Harry Gold, and well, Harry Gold was Jewish too, and they were all working at the same time, so it makes sense. He didn't do it, he didn't read it, he just quoted somebody else. He didn't do it at all. You know, and he's considered the godfather, Leonard Dershowitz is, of the case. I think Alan Dershowitz wrote his, opening and one of his, four volume, four books that he kept putting out every year, for his thesis. So it's real interesting. Yeah, I thought about writing Alan Dershowitz a letter, but I figured he would really come back hard on me. Do, do you know who it is? Oh,↗

2:25:55Speaker 2I don't think Alan Dershowitz is one of these people that can be counted on↗

2:26:05@phagankeanHe defends↗

2:26:06Speaker 2the rapists, yeah.↗

2:26:07Speaker 6Yeah, he defended-↗

2:26:07@phagankeanOh, defends the rapists, yes, that's what he's saying about rapists. I call them predators,↗

2:26:11Speaker 6yes.↗

2:26:12@phagankeanYeah, that's what I felt like he was doing with Leo Frank. I'm like, "What are you doing? You got all this information incorrect." And, you know, it's just- Just annoying sometimes, I just think, "Ugh," you know. And, you know, it's just, sometimes I just chuckle, and then other times I cry. It just depends on what hits me the way things hit me sometimes, you know? Now with the, the people here in Georgia, I'm very angry at them. I'm very angry. I think they have no respect for our family, and they won't let me have records, and I just don't understand. You know, and my God, I think, I think what Trump, Trump got sixteen billion or something from Foundy Willis's office, you know, and they won't give me records, so I'm thinking about doing something there to, to, let them know that, that she's denied me the records, and not just, not, you know, higher up than her. And say, because the last time that she did a budget, it was interesting that they did, the council didn't increase her budget at all, and she was shocked.↗

2:27:13@phagankeanYou know? She's got a lot of conflict of interest with this case, and it's, it shouldn't be. She's never responded to my letters at all. I sent my letter, and I sent a copy of my book. That's what I do with the, politicians here in Georgia too. I do that almost every year. If you,↗

2:27:29Speaker 5if you sent them a check for two hundred thousand dollars, you might get↗

2:27:33@phagankeanYeah, I might get a response.↗

2:27:34Speaker 2Yeah. It sounds like there's, there's just too much conflict of interest here. Like, like we're hearing the FBI, the NAACP, every ADL, every Jewish organization, a ton of entrenched money. And there is so much interest that goes against the truth in this one that one person going up against the Jewish defamation machine isn't gonna have any hope. Yes. Of, of getting it out. I, I don't know what I would do if I was-- You need an entire organization of people behind you to do this.↗

2:28:07Speaker 2And, Especially, w- I mean, without access to public money, because all these organizations, what they do is, they don't-- not only do they have these Jewish billionaire donors, they also appeal to the government for public money, so the ADL will get public money or, you know, possibly could be getting public money, right, for, you know, grants or, or whatever, to, to basically advocate in their own interest. And you have no chance of getting that because you are, I mean, the truth of what happened goes against all of that entrenched interest.↗

2:28:36@phagankeanRight. I agree.↗

2:28:38Speaker 2I, I would understand. That's why, that's↗

2:28:40@phagankeanwhy I don't do anything. I know, well, I do. I lied. I do. I wrote a book about it.↗

2:28:45Speaker 5I, I, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, you know, and↗

2:28:46@phagankeannow it's out there, it's even on eBay, I'm on Amazon, I'm, I'm- big bookstores, it's there, and it's self-published, and, you know, it's, I've made some money, and what I'm doing, like I said, as I thought about doing, well, I will, I'm working on it now as we speak. we're working on, a documentary, the team and I are, and just to have it out there because they can have theirs, I'm gonna have my final say so. And that's, and that's the way to do it.↗

2:29:12Speaker 2It's like, yeah, it's like grassroots So you're doing the right thing, I think. What's the documentary↗

2:29:23@nietzsche258918gonna be called?↗

2:29:25@phagankeanI, I wanted it to say Little Mary Fagan Isn't Forgotten, and then it'd say something about the ADL. But I'm starting with my family of how they came to the colonies, the first chapter. I think the people need to know where my family came from. It's like, I found out like my, oh gosh, which, which great grandfather, fought in the French and Indian War. We have had a Fagan in every war in this country.↗

2:29:47@phagankeanSince, since, yeah, since we began for two hundred and fifty years.↗

2:29:50@nietzsche258918An interesting spin on it might be the birth of the Epstein class, how it really began, and, you know, something like that. Because if you look, if you look into the Epstein files, and I'm sure Truth could help you with this, you could find some incredible corollaries about the narratives that the Jewish supremacists back then used and the ones they used in the Epstein files.↗

2:30:12@phagankeanOkay. And,↗

2:30:13@nietzsche258918and the thing is, so- There's a great awakening happening here about Jewish supremacy, and I really think that the best way for you to be a part of it is to connect these two things. You know, Truth Teller was talking about this earlier.↗

2:30:27@phagankeanYes. He's↗

2:30:27@nietzsche258918like, "Well, it really began with this and this and this," and then I really wanted someone, and then Truth Teller did it as if he was reading my mind, to bring up Tom Alexanderhitch. Because he's a pedophile that got away, we've watched him get away. We know that the Trump administration, including the US prosecutor who was born in Israel, let him get away on purpose. Israel let him get away, and this is the guy who's bragging about how many people that he has defrauded in America. And so what are they saying here? Rape is just part of who we are, and how dare you? The moment that you accuse us Of doing this, we are going to accuse you back of victimizing us. I have never seen a better example, in the example of yours, of Cicero's claim that they'd want to strike and cry out in pain. This is the ultimate strike, raping an innocent child and then crying out that we're the victims, and Akansha said about the, about the, the US's liberty, that in a way, they're, they're continually, continually committing a crime against the US's liberty. They're continually attacking, I think you said, the USS Liberty. Yes. Well, they're continually attacking this young girl. They're attempting, they're absolutely desecrating her grave in the way that that, that Israeli force desecrated the American flag by attacking it and taking it down.↗

2:31:51@nietzsche258918I'll, I'll close it. It's a lot of noise. So it But anyway, just to finish here, if you tie those two things together, then the recency of the Epstein files and then the historical, looking through the historical lens of what happened to her, I just really think, gosh, this is just an Epstein class that isn't going away.↗

2:32:10Speaker 5I've got a bit of a suggestion that might be a bit sick and twisted, but it might just work. Would you like to hear it?↗

2:32:16@phagankeanYes, sir.↗

2:32:18Speaker 5Okay, we could offer five hundred, five hundred dollars to anyone on death row who's, who's accused and appealing a, a rape homicide, and we offer them five hundred dollars to change their name to like Leo Frank or to Epstein or to, you know, people have got away with it basically, so that when they are eventually executed, they'll be executed in the name of people who've gone away with such crimes.↗

2:32:46@phagankeanI'm↗

2:32:46Speaker 2not really following that. It's hilarious.↗

2:32:52Speaker 6Okay. That's why I was↗

2:32:53Speaker 12bringing up with the bank↗

2:32:53@joann_marieof↗

2:32:53Speaker 12deposit questions. I have no idea.↗

2:32:55@joann_marieBut guys, we have a, a new hand. Wolf, welcome, go for it. Oh, Wolf? I didn't hear↗

2:33:07@patriotwolf14anything. No, you, you guys were on a roll. Keep going. Thank you though.↗

2:33:12@joann_marieOkay. Well,↗

2:33:15Speaker 11oh, really, really briefly, I'm, I'm, I'm so sorry, yeah, I'm so sorry to interrupt just for a minute. the lady was talkin', that, that lovely lady was talkin' about Alan Dershowitz, right? So just to, just for context, who is this guy Alan Dershowitz, this creep, right? Well, he always goes on TV, right, Fox News everywhere, Laura Ingraham show and brags that who inter- who set him up, assigned him to Jeffrey Epstein to protect their asset↗

2:33:40Speaker 11It's the family that's had the most money since the early 1800s, right? That installed the Federal Reserve. We're now forty trillion in debt, we're slaves. If we get out of debt and then get all-- you know, so, so, but, but that's Dershowitz, though. He's high, he's letting you know he's tied to the biggest mafia that got the most money. It's all letting you know.↗

2:33:56@phagankeanYeah, I, I know he's very well known, but he, he doesn't know this case↗

2:34:05@patriotwolf14Yeah, fair enough. He also, he protected Epstein in Florida.↗

2:34:09@phagankeanYeah, he's pr- well, he pr- he's protecting Leonard Dinterstein too. The same people that are↗

2:34:15@patriotwolf14in- that are in power now were the same people that actually protected him and gave him a plea deal in Florida years ago. So why we're expecting that things will be different, like I understand the hope, but it's the same people and they're doing the same fucking things now. So like I would hope that at this point, people like the cognitive dissonance has,↗

2:34:41@patriotwolf14dissipated and we're able to see things a little more clearly, and, Dershowitz is a fucking pedophile protector, like, if, if not a direct pedophile. But I mean, it's, it's very, very clear that he's protecting pedophiles across the board.↗

2:35:01@phagankeanI think so too. Yeah. And he does a good job of it, unfortunately.↗

2:35:11@patriotwolf14Well, he has cover and protection. It's, it's easy to stay and do whatever the fuck you want when you know that there's other people that will just bail you out if you, get in too deep, but us, us normal people, we have to create documentaries, we have to- I try to reach out on social media when we're not banned. We have to,↗

2:35:38@patriotwolf14try to create these grassroots movements, but we're doing it. And so, to the previous point where I, one person can't make a difference, I, I don't, I don't necessarily agree with that. I think, I think it can.↗

2:35:55@phagankeanI do too. I think I have made a difference.↗

2:35:58@patriotwolf14God, it sounds like you have. I don't, I- Honestly, I don't know you from Adam, but it sounds like you're, you're doing the work, right? And, and I appreciate you for doing that work because a lot of us aren't, and it's gonna lead more people, to the truth.↗

2:36:18Speaker 13Yes.↗

2:36:18@patriotwolf14And it may not be the catalyst that changes everything and, and all of a sudden things are better, but it's, it's a, it's a stepping stone on the, on that path. So God bless you.↗

2:36:32@phagankeanWell, thank you very much. I, I know He is with me and is helping my family and telling me and guiding me. I'm a very strong Catholic.↗

2:36:42@patriotwolf14So. Yeah, no, God bless you. Thank you, thank you for doing the work that a lot of people, sometimes they're, they're scared to, sometimes they don't have the ability to- By the more methods in different ways.↗

2:36:57@phagankeanAnd I, what's so, so great is the time that when I was younger, my dad had one and I had one, we had photographic memories, like JFK had one too, you know? And I mean, I look at something and I could just remember it. I never had to study in college or anything like that, I just look at it and I would know it in my, in fact, I always tell the story and it's true when I was going up for my master's degree and my team was up there, the professor- There was up there, we had to take a written test, and they were in the room and everything. And the first thing they said to me when I got up there, of course, you know, I'm nervous as heck, 'cause I don't know what they're gonna ask me, 'cause they told me they were gonna ask me questions. And you'll never believe what they asked me. They looked at me and they said, "If we hadn't been in that room, we would have accused you of cheating.↗

2:37:44@phagankeanYou have written paragraphs with page number, the book, the title." Do you have a photographic memory? And I went, "Yes, sir." And you told-- You didn't tell us? I said, "No, I don't brag about that. I just knew that I had it and I did it." However, unfortunately, at twenty-eight, I was diagnosed with, mitral valve prolapse, which is a heart-- weird heart condition, and, the medication has taken a lot of my photographic memory away, but I still have-- I have more memory than most people, so I'm very grateful that I, that I have that.↗

2:38:16@patriotwolf14Well, I'm sorry to hear that you're going through that, but that, I mean, you're, you're persevering through everything, right? Yeah, I am. Yeah, I am. And I mean, that, that says a lot about not only what you've done and what you're trying to do, but what you're going through.↗

2:38:32@phagankeanRight. That,↗

2:38:33@patriotwolf14that speaks to people like you, the podcast,↗

2:38:35@phagankeanhave changed my life. I mean, these podcasts are wonderful. It is getting the story out, and my ex is getting out, you know, my, my ex account is getting out. Thanks to Elon Musk because he bought, he bought Twitter, and, you know, I'm able to say some things that possibly wouldn't have never been printed before, you know? And I see,↗

2:38:57@phagankeanyou know, people reposting a lot of my stuff, and anything that you see that you like, I, I encourage you repost it. You know, that's how it gets out. It, it's, that's the only way it works, is to just keep spreading it and spreading it. I, for example, have gotten, I don't know what happened to it, but it disappeared, about two, over two hundred thousand views just on the announcement of my book, and that's wonderful. But now I would like for people to go and, you know, buy the book so that I can do this documentary and get it done. And, you know, I've got like about eight things that I wanna cover and share how The ADL,↗

2:39:36@phagankeanchanges the story on it.↗

2:39:40@phagankeanAnd I think it'll be really good.↗

2:39:42@patriotwolf14Baby stepped on the elevator though. Little Bob, what about Bob reference? Baby steps on the elevator, you're making progress, but don't get, ahead of yourself and, and, get too overextended, because then it will- The emotionality, the, the everything, it attacks you so hard. Okay. just-↗

2:40:07@phagankeanYeah, and also too, you wouldn't know it talking to me, but, in fact, I'm gonna have to probably go in a few, few minutes, my husband is in hospice from Parkinson's disease, Agent Orange, Vietnam. So I have that responsibility as well. Okay, what-↗

2:40:23@patriotwolf14may I ask his name so I can pray for↗

2:40:24@phagankeanhim? Sure, Bernard Carl Kane, K E A N. Yeah, we'll be married 48- Years this, June 24th. And we've-- This is our fiftieth year of knowing each other, isn't that amazing? We met at Florida State University.↗

2:40:38@joann_marieThat is amazing, Mary. It's, it's- We've had a↗

2:40:41@phagankeangreat life, don't I? And it's just been wonderful. And, you know, he's looking at me, he just came in here, and I think he's ready to go to bed, so I have to, I have to help the rest of the-↗

2:40:52@joann_marieIt's Bernard. It's Bernard. Well, it, it Thank you so much for everything you're doing. Real quick, real quick↗

2:41:01Speaker 6for your husband looking at pure nicotine, it helps treat Parkinson's and also Alzheimer's. So, but the pure form, and not cigarettes obviously, just the pure form of nicotine that comes from a plant, that's it.↗

2:41:13@patriotwolf14Oh, well, CBD also, but, not the THC version where you get, high, just straight CBD helps Parkinson tremendously.↗

2:41:23@phagankeanOkay. The thing with the Parkinsons that we have, that we decided, 'cause we've been in a lot of studies and stuff, is the one from Agent Orange is very different than the Michael J. Fox one, because they tell us when we go to the neurologist and stuff, he said there are no studies done on the guys from Agent Orange, in Vietnam. He was on the DMZ zone, right there where they were spraying And everything, and it directly got on his body. He said, "You could just feel it, you know, that kind of thing." And so there's really no studies, they haven't been studies because it's just so different for everybody that gets it from the age and all, it just depends, you know. Most of his, Company, he was with the fifth division, General Patton's in World War II. That's where the division started.↗

2:42:05@phagankeanthey either have died from the Parkinson's from Agent Orange or, severe, severe, dement-dementia, Alzheimer's. Mary, that's↗

2:42:14Speaker 9unfortunate to hear because General Patton was also killed by the Jews, so it's really interesting all these convergence points that you're talking about.↗

2:42:22@phagankeanI know, it's weird, isn't it? It's weird because, you know, I, you know, I just always admired General Patton, and then when I married somebody that was in the, the, the division, and actually they had started a reunion, and I got to meet guys that were with General Patton. Do you know how exciting that was for me? Oh my↗

2:42:41@patriotwolf14god! I think, I think Patton kinda woke up a little bit later, like after the war, right? That's what he said. It was↗

2:42:46Speaker 9too late, and they, they defeated the wrong team. They said↗

2:42:51@phagankeanthe They↗

2:42:55@patriotwolf14wouldn't let him go after Russia, you know? So, and, and when you're in that position, I mean, you're, you're making all sorts of calls thinking that maybe it's the best way. I come from a military family, and there's, I mean, there's, there's a lot of decisions you have to make where you're thinking, okay, maybe this is the-- but this is like, well back, you know, thirty years ago. this isn't what's going on now.↗

2:43:21@patriotwolf14But what happened with Agent Orange is completely fucked up across the board and,↗

2:43:27@phagankeanit just really↗

2:43:27@patriotwolf14just↗

2:43:28@phagankeanpeople, you know, the men and women, I'm sure women got it too,↗

2:43:32@patriotwolf14but-↗

2:43:32Speaker 9And we still haven't held those- All of those also happened at the same time, USS Liberty, Agent Orange, all of that was going on at the same time, roughly, right? Yeah.↗

2:43:43@phagankeanI know, it's just kind of strange that every time I- Well, American soldiers were- Well, the next, the next connects everything, you know? I thought about President Johnson, former President Johnson, I thought, "This is unbelievable, that I had no idea of that." But, you know, it's just, just kinda interesting, but, you know, he was the one that did the USS Liberty, and I thought, "He called the plane down." Yeah,↗

2:44:04@patriotwolf14he just ended up being a complete con. And, and that's the thing, like, we kinda like wake up in stages. There's like- Yeah. There's, there's certain larger stages where it's like, "Oh, fuck, it's a Jew, right?"↗

2:44:21@patriotwolf14Pieces are fitting into the puzzle, and we slowly wake up to, to where we,↗

2:44:28@phagankeanand what a difference. And some of us↗

2:44:29@patriotwolf14become fucking violent over it.↗

2:44:31@phagankeanYes, and when I found out about President Johnson, that really did me in for the USS Liberty. I thought, yep, okay, now it makes sense to me. If he was gonna do that, then he- He was the, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, and, you know, I admire the, the guys on USS Liberty, and I have a book that was written, I tell everybody, I-↗

2:44:54@phagankeanI couldn't, I just couldn't read it all. Do↗

2:44:57@patriotwolf14you have, do you have your book written yet or is it like- Oh, yeah, I'm↗

2:45:01@phagankeanpublishing everything, yes. It's on, you can get it on my website, littlemaryfagan dot com. It goes and also asks if there's a donation button if you wanna donate. And then, but if any of you guys want the, my book, you can send it to me and I'd be glad to autograph it for you.↗

2:45:21@patriotwolf14if you could, Either DM me, a direct link or post it in the, in the chat, I'll pick up a copy. Like, I don't need an autograph, like, it's just nice enough. I don't like my↗

2:45:34@phagankeanbeautiful handwriting.↗

2:45:36@patriotwolf14I think, well, I don't know, man, I don't. We should put the link in the chat. We'll tell you about↗

2:45:39@phagankeanmy handwriting when I discover it. Are you ready for this? This, you guys are gonna laugh at this, and this is a good way to kinda end everything. So, you know, a lot↗

2:45:53@nietzsche258918Wait, a lot of people ask you that?↗

2:45:55@phagankeanYeah, they do. Maybe I'll be done in a few minutes. Okay, yeah. He's in the wheelchair, he's in full time wheelchair now. So, sorry, that's his nickname, I shouldn't have said that. Sorry. anyway, oh, I lost my train of thought.↗

2:46:10Speaker 9you were talking about Parkinson's. Reincarnation,↗

2:46:13Speaker 6reincarnation.↗

2:46:15@phagankeanYou're reincarnated, yeah. If I was reincarnated, if I felt that, and I said, "You know, I really feel her in But it's not a reincarnation thing, it's just an emotional thing. And, you know, she has guided me in doing things. So I was looking through my stuff, and I just found it again, and my brother and sister were very close, and I, I, I found this postcard that she had written. And my brother and sister's handwriting is atrocious. I guess because I was being a teacher or something, that God decided that I needed to have a beautiful handwriting. My handwriting is Mary's handwriting.↗

2:46:53@phagankeanShe and I have the same handwriting.↗

2:46:57Speaker 2Yeah, that's cool. And whether you believe it or not, I don't think I'm, like I said,↗

2:47:02@phagankeanyou know, my brother and sister, they were speechless. I've never seen my brother speechless before. You know what I'm saying? He just, his name's Jimbo, and he said-↗

2:47:15Speaker 2Whether you believe Green Connection or not, Mary, the, the whole idea of Mary Fagan coming back from the grave to exact vengeance on her killer is, is beautiful, it's poetic.↗

2:47:27@phagankeanI think so too. I think I'm a vengeance for, for all the people, especially here in Georgia, and, you know, and I know that they will be taken care of in their own way, and this is who I am, and I, I wouldn't change it for the world. Let's let's get to the water. I wouldn't change it for the world, guys. I really wouldn't. I, I love what I've done. Let's get to the water, water↗

2:47:47@patriotwolf14though, but I, I appreciate that you actually have good handwriting, because so many people,↗

2:47:52@phagankeanlike,↗

2:47:57@phagankeanBecause I taught blind kids, you know, God said you↗

2:48:00@patriotwolf14better be able to write. No, but↗

2:48:01@phagankeanthat's↗

2:48:01@patriotwolf14awesome. You should have pride in your signature. It's, it's who you are. Yeah. And if you're able to write your signature, then you're able to write,↗

2:48:10@joann_marieright? I, I posted your book in the, in the Jumbotron and also Rabbi posted it. So guys, check it out and please show her some support. And we do have the last hand over here. thank you. Pan, Panagiot, I don't know how to say this,↗

2:48:28Speaker 12Hello. Yes. Mary, you stated you were Catholic. Yes. has your church, supported you, locally? I mean, maybe, you know, not, higher ups, but just local churches around, and, and, and people, people that attend the church, what are their views and how, how have they helped?↗

2:48:48@phagankeanWell, I am Catholic for a reason. When my parents got married in 1952, my dad is Southern Baptist, but in order to be married, my mom's full, was full-blooded Italian from Chicago, and that's a whole 'nother story. But, she couldn't marry in the Catholic Church if my dad didn't sign paperwork that all the children would be raised as Catholic.↗

2:49:14@phagankeanSo that was what they were going through back then. So, but, because of Bernard's, being in, hospice and stuff, it's been very difficult. Now we live in the North Georgia mountains, a little town called Elletje, Georgia, and the, the Catholic church is very small, but it's mostly Hispanic. So I do my own thing. I mean, my, my heaven is our ten acres out here. You know what I'm saying?↗

2:49:39@phagankeanSo I meditate, I meditate a lot. Yes, but↗

2:49:42Speaker 12isn't it, isn't it, isn't it, you know, this is the problem, and that's why I, I tried to explain the truth in, in his, in his, space, last time that, I mean, we don't have support, and basically all of these cases we read about, we see this injustice, it's done because our justice department isn't working. It's not there to protect anybody but the Israeli Jewish lobby. So unless we get the DOJ back,↗

2:50:15Speaker 12to do what's right, we're not gonna be able to fight this monster. It's, it's It's a parallel state, and they're able to do what they're able to do it because nobody is charging them with anything. You know, if you can't charge them with anything and take them into courts, which they do, but we're not allowed to do, this is why they're getting away with it. So we have to join together somehow↗

2:50:43Speaker 12have a, a base, a group, that will, you know, we, we could sit down and talk, show each other, say, "Hey, look, this, you know, Joe Schmo over here, he's, he's got a problem, a very serious problem, and, and not doing anything about it." In fact, we should have↗

2:50:56@nietzsche258918spaces where we↗

2:50:57Speaker 12do that. Yeah, spaces, but also there needs to be a, you know, stuff that, it, it can be done on spaces, but it can be done in just to be looking at, 'cause they're happening all over the place. You know, when it comes to this Jewish organized crime lobby, they're, they're conniving in each and every town, and everybody's so afraid, so afraid to talk. when, when they go and they complain, nothing gets done, they're never investigated, but others are. it's always antisemitism when it-- the majority of the time it isn't. And this has gotta stop. I mean, I'm not a churchgoer, but I've been kinda going back to church. And talking to younger people. I believe↗

2:51:40@phagankeanstrongly, yes, I do. And, and we're↗

2:51:42Speaker 12starting to talk about this Jewish↗

2:51:43@patriotwolf14problem. Mary, I, I bought your book.↗

2:51:47@phagankeanOh,↗

2:51:47@patriotwolf14thank you. don't dock me. but I bought your book, it's on the way. Thank, thank you for the recommendation.↗

2:51:54@phagankeanOkay, I don't mind doing that at all. so that's great, yes. it's just been, like I said, he's, it's right, you know, I believe so strongly in, in the higher being and God, and I'm sure you've heard me talk about it, a little bit here, but, you know, I was really, I was, we were staunch Catholics, you know what I'm saying? And, In fact, this is such a cute story I love about myself, about my personal life, is, you know, Bernard and I were married, but he wasn't Catholic. He's Presbyterian, and the Catholic church that I went to, Saint Anne's in Marietta, Georgia,↗

2:52:34@phagankeanneeded a couple. They wanted a couple, married couple, to do, marriage-type thing program with the young youth, sixteen and seventeen-year-olds, and somebody had recommended me. And I told them, "Well, my husband isn't Catholic, though." And they said, "Well, we-- Would you be interested?" I said, "I would love to." that's just the teacher in me, you know? I had the best time with those kids. I enjoyed myself so much and just felt so proud that, you know, that I was able to give the point of view. And then, even though Bernard didn't show up necessarily, I would always say, "We talked about this, and this is what he wanted you all to know." I had a blast↗

2:53:16@phagankeanYou can. And, you know, the, the priest and the higher ups, commended me very highly on how I did with that group of young people, and they had written letters about me and that, you know, that- I, even though I would, but they wanted that married couple, you know, but they didn't get that other side, but they said it didn't matter because I taught them more than they thought they would ever learn from that, in that class. So that was a good thing for me to happen in my life.↗

2:53:43@joann_marieHi, Mary. That, that's such a beautiful story, and I want to be respectful of your time, but we have a lot of fans and they↗

2:53:54@phagankeanare just gonna keep coming because you're so awesome. So, you're, you're, you're, you're, Somebody do that, there's a lot of you, and so that, you know, an address, you know, I would love to send you a copy of my book, autographed. I just, oh, hey,↗

2:54:09Speaker 5I've, I've reached out to you. Oh my god, guys,↗

2:54:11@phagankeanguys, guys, everybody's jumping. As the person that bought the book, I can pay you back.↗

2:54:18@patriotwolf14No, no worries, man. I wanted to support you, that's fine. That's↗

2:54:21@phagankeangreat. Wolf, Wolf, after, after you said↗

2:54:23Speaker 5that, Wolf, I, I bought a copy of a book as well, but, okay.↗

2:54:27@phagankeanBut, Mary,↗

2:54:28Speaker 5one day I hope I can come to the United States, I'm gonna draw a little hangman's noose there, and I'd like you to sign that, because not all lynchings aren't bad, I've discovered.↗

2:54:38@phagankeanOkay, that'd be great. I love, I love you as a friend and, and we're even. We have extra room, we have, we have a big house here. It's just me and Bernard and Bosco. We have a big rottie here, and he's being really good tonight. I'm impressed.↗

2:54:51@patriotwolf14Okay, you can pay me back and move in. That's cool. If anyone draws, yeah, yeah. We↗

2:54:54@phagankeangot two extra bedrooms, we got two extra bedrooms. So, pajama party↗

2:55:00@patriotwolf14at Mary's. No, you can↗

2:55:04@phagankeanhave me as a friend, and we Defense Network, and they've been, they're going to start helping me, do what you all talked about. They're gathering people, but what they wanna do is the opposite. They want to gather lawyers in every fifty states to help people like me.↗

2:55:24Speaker 12Nice, that's very good. Exactly, that's what I'm talking about. I think that, that, that's what I'm talking about. I can↗

2:55:27@phagankeansend you his information. let me call him first.↗

2:55:30Speaker 2That's how we build up. Listen, very quickly, Mary, if anyone comes to you with a picture of a noose and the words "Not a lynching's our bad," don't sign it. it will be photographed and used against you. Okay. Alright. But I, I just wanted to say, I am extremely, extremely happy to have gotten the↗

2:55:52@phagankeanOkay, and I just appreciate you all wanting to listen, and it's just been-- every time I do a podcast, I feel so much better about myself and the direction that I'm going in, and you all help me feel wonderful. Nah, the Lord, the Lord got↗

2:56:05@patriotwolf14you, man. The Lord has you.↗

2:56:08@phagankeanYeah, he does. And, the important thing is that, I'm hopefully not going anywhere for a while, but I have prepared for the afterlife as well for this story to continue and not just end with me. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I Nephew that's being trained, as we're talking about, you know, and he's like, "Okay, Auntie," what, "Okay," you know. So he's, I, I now, we now have a trust, Bernard and I have a trust, and a lot of the, the money that we have had, we are going to put into the Mary Fagan Keene Legacy Project to continue for years and years and years, something for the next two hundred years, and everybody should know that I'm in the process of transcribing all the newspaper articles of that time so↗

2:56:51@phagankeanAudio and, print as well. And they use my voice, AI has my voice, and they're in my voice.↗

2:57:00@phagankeanReading that. Exactly. Can I just say a couple things real quick about Agent Orange? Yeah, sure, go ahead. Thank you. First, Mary, I definitely want a signed, copy of your book, because that would be great. Okay. I have spent the last ten years not only researching, the toxic, toxic exposure of Agent Orange and the, during Vietnam my father died from illnesses connected to toxic exposure to Agent Orange, including Parkinson's, dementia of the Alzheimer's type, and hypertension. And it's only because of the work that I did filing claims and submitting, the scientific connections between Parkinson's and these other diseases to the toxic exposure to Agent Orange that it was actually put in the record in the VA. so- Good. That other, servicemen can get help for it. it's been really depressing, and the one thing that, that is so important about having these conversations is the work that I've done, every single time, goes to You know who? The, the companies that made this product, are Jewish. They, they also own Roundup.↗

2:58:16@phagankeanthey have skirted responsibility, they have harmed so many millions of people with these awful products, and it's been really, really devastating for me because I have done the work on the ground. I have been at the VA, I went to court, I was appointed my father's legal guardian and conservator. I have filed claim after claim after claim on his behalf, and, and I've gone--↗

2:58:43@adolfharperReal quick, this is baby monitor, right? I've gone to, I've↗

2:58:45@phagankeanserved my, senators in my state written letters, and, and they owe our estate money, our government owes our estate money in my father's name, and they won't ever pay it. And I've spent years trying to go the legal route, fighting these people on my own, and I get nowhere. It-- the gaslighting is primo. And People say,↗

2:59:09@phagankeanwho are on the side of this fighting the VA, that their motto is literally, they say this behind the scenes, "We will delay and deny until they die," a-and it's just, it's awful. I, I want to spend the rest of my life exposing the pe- these people for the things that they've done. It's awful. It really is, and I'll land there.↗

2:59:33@phagankeanWell, I tell you, my dad was in the service in the Air Force, and when he retired, he worked for the, VA in helping veterans and stuff, so that was really good. But, you know, fortunately for me, my experience has been just wonderful. With the VA, I mean, I have caregiver support. I don't have it here at night, but I have ten hours a day that help me. She won't let, he won't let her take him, give him a bath or shower. It still has to be me. I chuckle at that one. He says, "You know, he, he said, I can have anything, she can't, but she can't wash my, you know." I said, "Okay, gotcha." So we do that, and, we do it together, and it's just, I've had a positive-- I, I literally am in a program from the VA to care, and you might wanna share this with people, they pay me to take care of Bernard↗

3:00:20@phagankeanevery month, and I can choose how to spend the money. Since we have ten acres, and it's just me and him, and we're in a three thousand square foot house, for example, I use part of that money to pay for a housekeeper to come for me, so I don't have to clean anymore. Yeah, I, I applied for that, it was rejected, and I don't know why. one of the claims that I applied, that was one of them, it was returned, and they said it was rejected because I signed in the wrong box.↗

3:00:48@phagankeanWell, I'm telling you what, I had to go to school and everything and do a computer class with them, but it's been wonderful for me because it's helped provide, like I said, housekeeper services. It's helping pay for a full-time caregiver here five days a week, and it's been really, very, very helpful that we didn't have to use our own money, you know, to do this. so- Yeah, yeah,↗

3:01:10Speaker 9yeah. Were you able to- Well, the↗

3:01:11@phagankeanservices that they were promised and that's what they're supposed to be providing Were↗

3:01:17@patriotwolf14you able to resubmit, Orange?↗

3:01:20@phagankeanI beg your pardon?↗

3:01:22@patriotwolf14Were you able to resubmit? You said it was denied.↗

3:01:24@phagankeanOh, I didn't, didn't, they didn't deny me, I got right in, and I had to go take a class and everything to pass a test and all this stuff. I got, I got immediately got in. Yes, I resubmitted, I contacted two of my senators, I wrote letters, I went to a lawyer, they rejected it because they didn't wanna take on the VA.↗

3:01:46@patriotwolf14So it was, it was rejected a second time then?↗

3:01:52@phagankeanyeah, yes, like, this is going on almost ten years now, resubmitting claims and, and going back and forth for reimbursements and things. And maybe it's my state or something. What state are you from? Arizona. That might be because I've never had any trouble with Georgia. I mean, every time, I mean, it took me like two years to get his, hearing done, but, you know, I just resubmitted and, I don't go to an advocate or anything, I just did everything myself. In fact, when I went to, to go to the first advocate, 'cause they told me I needed to do that to get an increase in my, caregiver hours, I went to the guy and he asked me if I wanted a job. 'Cause I brought all my paperwork in and everything, and he said, "You are on top of it, young lady." He said, "Are you interested in coming to work?" I said, "No, no, I'm too old now." You know? But yeah, it might be your state and not, not just the VA. It could be your state. You know?↗

3:02:49@phagankeanOh, well, yeah, I think that's definitely part of it. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't give up. I wouldn't give up, honey. I wouldn't give up. I mean, keep doing it So, you, Daddy wants to see you. So anyway, yeah, I, you know, but it's been, we've had nothing but a positive experience here, Bernard and I, and he's been very pleased with it. But when Agent Orange came out and they automatically gave thirty percent, they contacted us here in Georgia and let us know he has, his disability. But, you know, you do have-- Did your dad have what percentage of disability? 'Cause you have to have a minimum of seventy percent to get into this program.↗

3:03:29@phagankeanSee, that's the thing, he was at one point one hundred percent, and then they took it away from him. I've been trying retroactively, that's one claim that I did file, was retroactively take it back up to a hundred because he had multiple cancers, and multiple diagnoses. He shouldn't have never been dropped from a hundred to, I can't remember what it was, maybe seventy. Yeah.↗

3:03:55@phagankeanWell, even seventy percent is, is high enough to get into the caregiver support program, so you met that criteria. I keep trying again, and you know what? You can DM me and, if we want, if you want, I can, share some of the letters and stuff I wrote if you want. So- Oh, that would be great. I will, and I definitely would like one of your books. Okay. But, you know, I think this fight, al-al↗

3:04:19@phagankeanI've, I've also been participating in the, research of the health of the Vietnam veteran descendants because many of us were also exposed to Agent Orange or were exposed to toxicants on base, and, that's not been going well at all. It's very depressing. And of course, what it boils down to is the, our, our military is in many ways Just completely strangled by the Jews. I, I just don't understand how our own military is being abused and used for Israel, not for our people. For a↗

3:05:03Speaker 9generation or seven↗

3:05:06@joann_marieAnd guys, we have a couple of hands, so let's go to the hands and then we'll- Okay, I'm so↗

3:05:10@phagankeansorry, sorry, that's a whole different topic. Yeah. She's more than welcome to, to, to, to message me, and I can give you my home phone number if you want, in that, in that, in that part. I'd be glad to talk to you about it. That'd be great. I, I↗

3:05:23@joann_marielove how we use this as networking, it's, it's so beautiful. All right, Elections and Reform or Perish, go for↗

3:05:35@gameothrI appreciate the space, once again. I know you're trying to get out of here, I'll be quick.↗

3:05:39Ian MalcolmAnd, and real quick, elections. Am, am I mistaken or is Joann, no longer the co-hostess with the most, but she is the host with the most. She's rocking this one.↗

3:05:50@gameothrShe always does. All right, my question is, I've been going around with Godfrey and a couple other people, I may have mentioned it here. we know that there is something being teed up that we need to stop, and the question I have is, what are we gonna do? Today, just a little bit ago, Netanyahu basically told the US government, "Go fuck themselves," 'cause they're not gonna honor whatever agreements might have been made with Iran. My question to everybody is, isn't this not a golden opportunity to actually use this to put a wedge in this whole AI, you know, integration with Israel? Behemoth that is getting ready to be shoved down our throats. I mean, we've gotta figure out a way to do something, and to me, this is an, you know, unexpected godsend because, I don't know what we're gonna do, generally speaking, other than maybe put some pressure on some GOP senators. I think the House is a lost cause, but, what Netanyahu just did is absolutely outrageous, and I think that it, it could be, A tool that we can use to get in the front of this AI shit. I think the best thing we can do-- Oh, sorry. Any ideas?↗

3:07:04Speaker 2I think the best thing we can do is encourage Israel to believe in itself and to remind them that, even if they decide to send all of their fighting age males, into a ground invasion against Iran, Hashem will protect them and they will surely win.↗

3:07:21@gameothrWell, okay, fine. Does anybody else have any ideas here?↗

3:07:25@joann_marieI think they have done the, oh, sorry, go for it, Ian.↗

3:07:27Ian MalcolmHey, hey, Rabbi, I was just gonna ask, I heard somebody say this funny joke, which was, if you're not familiar with the world's, shortest book, look up the one on, on Jewish war heroes, which, I, I can't imagine that they're going to do that without the United States, but maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, it's like three↗

3:07:51Speaker 11Oh, Tom, just real quick to answer that gentleman's question for your solution, I'm just gonna post my solution, in the, the purple pill for an idea. It's mass peaceful protest.↗

3:08:04@joann_marieThank you so much, Horace. And I like to know how they have done these, these little fights over and over and over. They did them with Biden as well. So, I mean, people need to keep speaking up and saying that you don't want this because the government, like, they, they can embarrass you, they can humiliate you, they can do everything, like Israel does it over and over and over, and America just doesn't do anything, you know? Like they just keep going along with it, so the people need to speak up and be like, "We need to stop↗

3:08:33@gameothrBut-- Well, I, I'd like to think that that would actually have a, an impact. I don't believe that it will. This thing is coming down in the next few weeks. Are we gonna be able to mobilize the American public to get in front of this in time? I don't see how that's gonna happen. Everybody is so disgusted with the entire political process. Well, no other,↗

3:08:53@nietzsche258918no other bill requires an act of treason to vote for it, like the one you're talking about. Section two two four of the NDAA. Where we're pretty much giving military intelligence and control over to Israel. Of course, it's the country that is represents the biggest threat to America. In fact, more of a threat to America than all other countries combined. So it is absolutely insane for them to be doing this, and especially after we know that they have stolen secrets from us, especially after we know that they're running a blackmail operation against us, especially after the dancing Israelis who were saying we were there to witness, the event So yeah, that's probably right.↗

3:09:33@patriotwolf14And I responded into the NDA, which means that they were trying to skirt it under the fucking radar. Right.↗

3:09:41Speaker 11David is a legend of a legend for mentioning the dancing Israelis. David is a legend of legends. I love you, bro. Can I get another try for that? And a page↗

3:09:48@nietzsche258918of it. Well, so diligent posted earlier today, a list of good congressmen, Democrat and Republican, to, to reach out to, and it's, it's effective sometimes to call them and simply call this out. I would tell you this, if you're going to vote at all, you shouldn't ever vote for anybody again, no matter what their stance on any other issue, if they voted to give away our sovereignty to a country of genocidal pedophiles. So that's just it. This is-- there is no other bill like this in the history of America. Just the idea that we're saying after all this, after all of the lies, after all of the deceit, after all of the assassinations, after all of the pedophilia, after getting away with everything, including the thing we were just talking about with Frank We're going to give you control over our military intelligence, and don't forget, that also includes NSA data, which means that being able to track every man, woman, and child for all of their life in America. And that comes after... So my↗

3:10:53@patriotwolf14thing is, I think they're already doing that. They're just trying to... Well, but this is different,↗

3:10:56@nietzsche258918right? This gives them a whole new, 'cause the fusion and the fusion part of it is the big part. And why is this so significant? Well, Benjamin Netanyahu has already threatened all of Americans. These, he said, technology is our weapons of war. So he's spitting on the graves of acres of men buried at Arlington who'd fought for our right to speak freely, to move about freely, to have free association. And what is he saying What are they saying? We're coming after you, you're the enemy, and we have now bought, controlled your government through purchase and blackmail, and we're coming after you're the enemy. So if our government signs this over, this is sedition. You know, our country was founded by seditionists in a good way. There were seditionists against those who were tyrannizing over us. And of course, we declared independence. So our answer isn't simply not to sign this bill, but our, our answer is to declare independence from them. We must declare independence from Israel. That is the next step to our emancipation.↗

3:11:58@gameothrDa-David, that is beautifully said, and I agree with every word you said. The question is, what are we gonna do in the short time period we've got, and whether or not we can leverage this latest, just complete slap in the face, to maybe get exactly some way to put a roadblock in front of this god awful legislation.↗

3:12:19@patriotwolf14But it's not, it's not just addition though, it's, it's, it's treason, if I'm not mistaken, right?↗

3:12:26@nietzsche258918Well, it is, it is morally treason. I mean, obviously this, as Nietzsche said, the Perpetuity Wall Covenant is balanced and there's an imbalance of power here, but it is morally treason. By the way, I see Pythagoria put in the chat, it's section two nineteen now, so thank you for that correction. But no, it is absolutely treason. I can't-- if it isn't treason, then just rip out that page of the dictionary or at least erase that one word, because it would certainly denude the meaning of it to nothing.↗

3:12:59@gameothrGreat point. I'm still asking, what are we gonna do, and can we use this matter to our advantage? Sir,↗

3:13:05Speaker 11sir, I was just gonna answer that. I don't believe we can solve that actually in the short term, even if they pass it. I believe we can reverse it in the long term, even legislatively, if, if, we keep pushing this movement, keep the exposure up, I believe we can reverse all this stuff legislatively.↗

3:13:20@joann_marieAnd guys, I think Mary wanted to say something. I'm so sorry, Mary, go for it.↗

3:13:24@phagankeanOh, that's okay. I just wanted to let you that I'm gonna have to sign off, and that I've really enjoyed this podcast, and thank all of you all so much from the bottom of my southern heart to you all for listening and caring about my story. I can't thank you enough. I'm blessed. Thank you for having me. And anybody wants an autograph book, I don't mind signing it and paying to send it back or whatever, you know. It'd be my honor to do it for you all. I mean, you just have been a really great group, and I thoroughly enjoyed myself. But he's ready to go to bed, so I think I better get ready.↗

3:14:00@joann_marieHi, God bless you, Mary, and thank you so much for, for coming and, and also for sharing your story and keeping the memory of little Mary Fagan alive, and you're such a warrior and an inspiration. So thank you, thank you, thank you. And hopefully we see you more often in, in-↗

3:14:16@phagankeanI, you know, I'd be glad to come To the story, we can, we can get, you know, another part and really get into it if you want. That's not a problem.↗

3:14:26@joann_marieI would absolutely love to. So thank you so much, Mary. Okay. And guys, follow her and buy her book. Okay. Good night. Good night. God bless you, Mary. Thank you.↗

3:14:38@joann_marieAll right, Rabbi, go for it.↗

3:14:43Speaker 2I was going, just gonna say that I think someone asked me what we do now, and I think that in the three or four years that I've been on this app, every, you know, all the time people come up and say, "Ask me, what do we do in the short term? What do we do right now to stop this?" And I have to go back to, it's like, "Well, the best time to plant a tree is twenty years ago, right?" But the second best time is always now. And whatever it is, whatever it is that you are, you wanna do about whatever the issue is, right? There is no short term fix Right? Just accept it. Rip that band-aid off, alright? It's not gonna be fun to accept it, but you have to accept it. These are long-term problems, and they will require long-term solutions, right? You can't go to, we're gonna cram twelve hours before the final and pass it in this case. It doesn't work, right? These problems were put in place by bad actors that spent decades, if not centuries, laying the groundwork To make us buy into these horrible decisions. And so the only way to fix it or to push back against it is going to be start a long-term effort today Right. And don't let me do that. Oh, yeah, correct. No, imagine if how long,↗

3:16:03@joann_marieimagine if the genocide in Palestine didn't happen and they keep just doing it and people didn't realize what happened, like this, it's just such a scary thought because they would keep getting away with everything so much and it's, it's so horrific that the, all the blood of the Palestinians it, that it took for, for people to wake up for the, of the evils that, that they, these people- People have done, and yeah, go for it, Rabbi.↗

3:16:29Speaker 2No, yeah, that's, that's the only thing is the only way that we've won so far is through massive pyrrhic sacrifice. And if you don't want that contin- to continue, you have to start today. You have to begin creating the same kind of unified effort that they leverage to do evil, you have to leverage to do good. You have to go out and you have to find real people in real life that are willing to work together and cooperate↗

3:16:55Speaker 2Your own self-interest to protect you against all of these massively funded, massively weaponized forces that are at against you, because that's the only way you're gonna beat it is by finding people to stick together with, because all of their evil relies on you being isolated and individualized so that they can come against you with group power and destroy you, and then your destruction Cower, like, gets the other, everyone else who's watching, gets them to cower and fear and put up with further isolation. I, I agree with that, but is that in↗

3:17:30@patriotwolf14the current paradigm of like the voting system↗

3:17:33Speaker 2or is it outside↗

3:17:34@patriotwolf14of it? I, I agree with you on, on a lot of what you're saying. I'm just not sure if you're speaking to the, the current voting paradigm or outside of the-- Well, I, I'm saying that, that is the current↗

3:17:49Speaker 9voting paradigm, actually. Is that where we go for a candidate, like look at Lindsey Graham, the four-- Guys,↗

3:17:55@joann_marielet's try not to speak over each other. Guys,↗

3:17:57Speaker 2guys, seriously, listen, hold up, relax. The answer is no. This isn't about the voting, voting paradigm. Okay. Okay. Voting doesn't work, and I'm sorry to say it, so I have to say it bluntly so everyone can understand, voting, we've demonstrated, voting doesn't work, okay? What you have to do is do what works, and what does work, which is demonstrated by Jewish interests, is getting together in an extremely protective, extremely nepotistic group Finding ways to elevate members of your group to billionaire status, to levels of influence, to levels of political influence, levels of medical, academic, et cetera, get people elevated to positions of interest, of influence, and then use that influence to further skew the system in your favor, right? That's it. You don't, you don't think that's too far gone,↗

3:18:44@gameothrno?↗

3:18:45Speaker 2Hold on a second. Wait,↗

3:18:46@patriotwolf14wait. One↗

3:18:46Speaker 2question at↗

3:18:47@patriotwolf14a time.↗

3:18:50@patriotwolf14I was just wondering if it's too far gone now. Look at it this way, we aren't- We don't have that opportunity. Guys,↗

3:18:57@joann_marieplease, please stop talking to each other.↗

3:19:00Speaker 2Yeah. Well, well, was that the end of the question? 'Cause I have an answer for you.↗

3:19:05@patriotwolf14No, yeah, no, I was, I was just curious, do you feel like, we still have that opportunity, really? And you, we have that opportunity. Okay, cool. Listen, listen,↗

3:19:13Speaker 2Amer- we're Americans. Americans are used to the most, like, the highest levels of comfort and leisure the world has ever known, okay? And so as soon as a mild inconvenience comes scuttling our way, we cry to, we're like, "Oh my God, the world is ending. We have no chance. Tomorrow's gonna be a, like, apocalypse." Even the tunnels and change your religion to avoid being burned at the stake, there is hope, okay? Because the Jews literally find their- I, I respect your opinion, but that's why I was asking. Thank you. The Jews literally formed their own mafias in that environment, okay?↗

3:19:54Speaker 2The, the problem is, Wolf, I don't know if you're asking a question, the problem is Wolf, is Americans want things to happen quickly. They want them to happen fast, they want them to be easy, they don't want to get up the couch to do it, and they want it to be over in five minutes so they can go back to living their pampered life, right? That's just what we Americans are. That's just what we want. We, we think also, if a solution doesn't look like that, we're like, "Oh, I don't trust it↗

3:20:22@joann_mariePeople like in the last one↗

3:20:26Speaker 2minute, so please just not. Of course, you can ask, you can go ahead, but, but just don't, don't jump in on people, okay?↗

3:20:31Speaker 11Oh, sorry. Oh, sorry. Yeah. Well, sir, sir, that was genius. Just really quick, just, what you just said, sir, I mean, you're talking like George Washington, all right? I mean, because think about the war in the trenches, he lost like a million battles, then he started winning, but he was building that coalition, building that, and that↗

3:20:52Speaker 11I mean, I mean, and ju- and just getting all these truth out there, it's, you're firing all these little truth bullets, and these little bullets eventually form this, this wall in the dam that eventually breaks, you know? So it does. It's a, it's a long term brick by brick war, and we're doing it right now. So good job.↗

3:21:09Speaker 2Thanks a lot. This is the educational part of the effort. So this is, yeah. I think, Adolfo, you said you wanted to go next.↗

3:21:17@joann_marieYeah, go for it, Ad↗

3:21:20Speaker 2You had your hand up for a while, you said.↗

3:21:23@joann_marieI muted you like 10 times. Hello. Hello,↗

3:21:24@adolfharpersorry. go for it. I'm in my backyard right now. I've got my garden planted, and tonight, me and one of my sons planted a pear tree, and me and my other son- One beautiful↗

3:21:42@joann_mariestory. Does it have to do with the pear tree? We're planting↗

3:21:44@adolfharperraspberries. No, this is it. You gotta become self-reliant. Don't rely on other people, don't rely on anyone for food or any of that. You, you as a person, you as a human being, have to become self-reliant on yourself. Don't rely on the government, don't rely on other people. If you have something valuable to trade for food, wood, whatever You have to make that happen for you, and far too many people have become far too complacent and lazy, expecting everyone else to do everything for them instead of actually getting out and doing the work yourself. I'm looking at my orchard, I have 12 to↗

3:22:35@adolfharper15 trees right now that are gonna produce this year, and that is work I put in years ago. Up till today, I've got a garden that's gonna produce this year, and that is work I have put in this winter till now. I put in the work to provide for my family, that is something that has always happened. Now, everybody's become too reliant on the grocery store and all that, they've become too lazy and fat and eccentric. No, the thing is, people have to go out. It doesn't matter if you own an acreage and you can plant a garden, or a little tiny house in the middle of the city, if you can't grow food yourself, you're the problem.↗

3:23:23@adolfharperIt doesn't matter how much you wanna criticize everyone else, I mow this, I mow that, no. Unless you actually put the work in yourself, you are not owed a damn thing. And I am so tired of these lazy people trying to say, "I want this, this, this, and this." Okay, power goes out tomorrow, who has food? Me, the guy who put work in. You, you have nothing, you wanna complain and cry? Well, Elon Musk is a trillionaire.↗

3:23:54@adolfharperGood for him. I have food. I don't care, who's gonna eat at the end of the day. Sir, you're a legend. How, how easy is to run a chicken coop?↗

3:24:05@adolfharperI have a chicken coop. I have chickens.↗

3:24:08Speaker 11Are they awesome? Are they cool? Are they like pets, right? I, I know a lot of↗

3:24:10@joann_mariehipsters who have chickens and they barely can, like, they, I think it's easy.↗

3:24:17Speaker 11That's↗

3:24:17@adolfharperawesome. Yeah. Chickens are easy. Chickens are awesome.↗

3:24:21Speaker 11Sophia, my darling, where are you? They're like pet, they're like super intelligent, they're loving, right? I, there's, I mean, everything's cool about them. I mean, they're designed by a, a way cooler designer than any dumbass human here, so.↗

3:24:36@patriotwolf14For, for, like gardens and whatnot to grow your own stuff, it's, it's kinda easy to get started with herbs and, like peppers. Peppers are super easy. And then, I mean, kinda when you get a- A grass pot now, you can branch out in all sorts of stuff. Tomatoes, super easy. if you have room, I mean, basically like any sort of lettuce or whatever.↗

3:25:04@patriotwolf14and then now you're self-sufficient. I mean, just baby steps, right? On the elevator.↗

3:25:09@joann_marieAnd there is a girl that I see down there, she has a really cool app called Mulberry Tree, and hopefully she can come up because it's, it's really cool. You can connect with other farmers that are around you and buy, from them. So, yeah, it's really cool. And Adolphe, I'm gonna- That's so incredible. Yes, it's, it's really, really cool. but yeah, thank you, thank you so much, and I'm really happy that you're,↗

3:25:34@joann_mariedoing all that. Thank you so much, Adol And also, Truth Teller has really cool spaces on health, e-every Sunday, where he talks about everything on how to disconnect from the system and not get sick, because that's how they get you. So, yeah, subscribe to Truth Teller as well and come to our he-health spaces. Alright, Mufasa, welcome, go for it.↗

3:26:00Speaker 14Hey guys, good evening. Can you hear me well? I'm in the car.↗

3:26:03@joann_marieYes.↗

3:26:05Speaker 14Okay, what Rabbi was saying earlier makes a lot of sense and, we gotta start now, as you said, like we didn't start it before, but my idea was like, for example, like Google, I don't think it was started by a Jew, and all these other companies weren't started by Jews, they just took over somehow, whether it was them blackmailing their way or them figuring out some way, in a smart way, we could do it too, we could do it better than them, we have strength in numbers. We just gotta figure out the way to do it.↗

3:26:37Speaker 14I don't know if I'm just talking bullshit, is that realistically doable? We gotta start from somewhere and expose them with their bullshit, get them kicked out. More people need to wake up 'cause everyone in this space Has probably been in this space for a long time, and we know all this stuff. We gotta branch out and tell more people, 'cause every day at work, I'm teaching someone new about the JQ and this and that, like they don't know about Building Seven still. They don't know about the Pentagon, all this shit they don't know about. But that's, that's how we do↗

3:27:07@patriotwolf14it. You're doing it, brother.↗

3:27:09Speaker 11That's↗

3:27:09Speaker 14what I'm saying. Building Seven, Pentagon, you're a↗

3:27:11Speaker 11legend, sir. You're a legend. Thank you.↗

3:27:14Speaker 14And I've known about↗

3:27:19Speaker 14These people haven't known. Yes, it, it sucks that Gaza had to happen, it didn't have to happen, but it happened, and people are waking up, more people, but sadly, it's more people in other countries. The media is Obviously controlled in this country, we need to keep spreading it. We need to do more things, not just speak about it. We need to start making some actions. We need to expose these pedophiles. I'm telling you right now, if we make some fake profiles of some little kids, we can get all these motherfuckers exposed quick, and we gotta do it ourselves without the FBI, 'cause the FBI is in their pockets or- They're blackmail too, but I don't think it's just blackmail. I think the reason why our government is doing every little thing possible against Americans is because they got the drop on us. They probably got- Okay, professor,↗

3:28:14@joann_marieyour rubber banding. Okay, I'm, I'm just gonna mute you. Sorry, I'm not looking↗

3:28:20Speaker 14at the camera.↗

3:28:24@joann_marieOkay, yeah, it's gone.↗

3:28:26Speaker 14Alright, better now?↗

3:28:28@joann_marieI don't know, go for it.↗

3:28:31Speaker 14Alright.↗

3:28:32@joann_marieNope, it's still really bad.↗

3:28:35Speaker 14Alright, that's it for now, don't come back.↗

3:28:38@joann_marieAlright. Okay, thank you so much, and I mean, they, they do really awful things. I, I knew a guy who had an AI project that the Jews wanted, and he didn't want to sell it, and because he didn't want to sell it, they started suing him and eventually bankrupted him and then stole his, the coding people. So that's what these people do. They, they, if they can't buy it from you, they will like somehow get it. Anyway. And↗

3:29:12@patriotwolf14Don't beat me until you're dead, anyways.↗

3:29:15Speaker 14Joanne, to add on to what you're saying. People don't realize how much power they really have. Alright, I'll get out. Sorry. Okay.↗

3:29:26@joann_marieThank you. And, yeah, come up when, when you stop driving. Alright.↗

3:29:34@joann_mariedone. Go for it.↗

3:29:36Speaker 9So Joanne, your friend had an AI company that he wouldn't sell, and they bankrupted him?↗

3:29:43@joann_marieYeah, they, they started suing him or something. Like, I don't know the entire thing. He just like talked about it in passing. He had like an AI company and, and they wanted to have the code. I don't know anything about technology, so they, they wanted the, the thing that he had, and then he wouldn't give it to them, and they- Started suing him, saying that he had stolen from them, which he hadn't, and eventually bankrupted, bankrupted him and then stole the people who were building the AI. maybe there is different words for, for it, but I, I don't speak technology↗

3:30:22@patriotwolf14so↗

3:30:23Speaker 9well. That's what, what I was gonna say in the first place. So you talking about AI is crazy. what just came out with Fable Five with the Claude, scandal? The US government shut down Fable Five because someone out there, someone in the community that, you know, is a part of this grassroots movement, used Fable Five to recreate Palantir.↗

3:30:56Speaker 9That is why it was shut down. anonymous group posted about it. They said, "Uh, shout out to the guy that recreated Palantir with Fable Five. And it was completely doable. You can look this up. It's, it-- the overthinking, the long-term process that Fable Five had, someone did it with the full panel in hours. They recreated the entirety of the Palantir system in hours using Fable Five." So these security systems that are in place are weak pin and bones compared to hardened security systems of late-- of, of yesteryear. So we as people are, are super able to take down these powerful things that you think are, you know, held up by institutional things. No, it's held up by a bunch of fucking criminals. They're, it's a criminal organization. they don't really take the time to do it, they're too busy on leisure, just the- Same as anyone else would be after they make a billion dollars, you know? so someone out there recreated Palantir and has Palantir,↗

3:32:06Speaker 9just out there. So, you know, that's something for all of us to know that people are able to reclaim the systems of power. It's not for the kings and, and these fables, we also are able to take in our own hands these powers that they're using to control us and use them for goodwill. So, I'm sorry that happened to your friend Joanne, but these, these are the cases, and the US government had to shut down, Claude for this reason, is because AI- eyes being used by the hands of us, and they're terrified of it, just like the internet. They don't know the capabilities of something until it gets in the hand of someone said here, truth teller space as well as it's the autistic man who sits alone or the autistic girl who does research and reads books, it all comes to light eventually if it gets in the right hands of Americans, it gets into the right weird niches of life, it, it blows up. Well, yeah, I, I just hope everybody takes inspiration that someone has Palantir. Someone made, someone, someone made them shut down Fable Five because they made Palantir. So, just understand it's completely possible to reclaim power out here.↗

3:33:27@joann_marieHopefully, I, I'm just so, so happy people are waking up and, and they, they start doing it for themselves. So thank you so much. Pors, go for it!↗

3:33:39Speaker 11th-thank you so much, Joann. yeah, and, and it just, I, I love, by the way, the gentleman who just spoke, everyone who's, who's spoken tonight has been very, intelligent and awesome, so great space as usual. somebody who just spoke, who, who was just speaking was talking about a solution, right? And I heard Truth Teller, we've talked about this before as well as a solution of decoupling from the system, right? so, so growing your own food, having, having↗

3:34:08Speaker 11Plants are just as cool as animals. They're really cool to grow, cool to look at, whatever. So, but that's cool too. But maybe like, I was thinking too, like, 'cause don't chickens can't they eat potatoes? Potatoes are the easiest things to grow. You can grow them in buckets. You can actually live off potato. Oh, sorry, but But yeah, just decomplexing the system. I love that idea.↗

3:34:28@joann_marieWhat? Just, just,↗

3:34:32Speaker 11I'll, I'll go to you in a second. Go, go for it first, and then I'll go to you, man. Oh, oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'll be quick, I'll be quick, I'm so sorry, yeah. Are we doing the chicken thing again? no, no, but, but- But, but this is actually more important than the chicken thing, all right? The, it's the Amish thing Don't they have their own like fund too or something like that? So pull your resources together, decouple from the system, build your own system, build your own local paradise, be your own local, you know, paradise, with your own local, people of like mind, right? it can be any group you want, any, any group you want of like mind. So, that you have nice principles, you're kind, love thy neighbor, you're kind to each other, that's it.↗

3:35:14@joann_marieLove it. I, I adore the, thank you so much, Forrest. Alright, men who play God, I've been reading you over and over.↗

3:35:24@mrharharharvestThank you. My name is Lulu, sorry, my, my face looks like a male, so you guys might have been surprised. I just wanted to mention, Helgi posted the book, "Memorandum of Rituals," and I asked Grok for information on it while everybody was talking, and Grok steered totally wouldn't give me any of the stories, wanted to avoid that, wanted to give, you know, basically it's just a hoax kind of stuff. And so I kept pushing, and I said, just for kicks, give me all the stories or give me, you know, five stories. That are, that I want you to give them to me as if the victims are actually here, you know, that you're respecting the victims. Which book, I'm sorry? So it's in the, it's in the, comments, okay. And it's called,↗

3:36:23@mrharharharvestMemorandum of rituals, so it's about like blood rituals and some of the lore, some of these really horrible cases that-- and I don't know that much about it, right? So I'm just going through this, and here's what I wanna point out, 'cause it's so upsetting. So I got Brock to give me those, and I copied and pasted them in, and they're gone. They're not seeable. That's how powerful these people are. That book is tagged, but it would let me- Post the clip that actually kind of made Helgi a little bit defensive because it wasn't, it was just the, the tag on. And I was like, "Oh yeah, that's not what I really wanted to post in there." And so I started to post all these horrible stories. They're horrible. They're, you know, they're, you, you don't even wanna read them. They're those kinds of stories. And they're gone. So if you guys go look, I'd like you to let me know if you can see See them, because it's so upsetting. And then I took a screenshot of what it looks like to me, so it looks like there's four comments, but when you go, go to open them, there's nothing there. Yeah, it says there's nothing↗

3:37:37Speaker 9on, on your own. Yeah, I'm looking at it now, there's no comments under it.↗

3:37:41@mrharharharvestYeah, there's just, and, and it's, it's so unnerving. This is my whole life. I've been so targeted since 2008. And I don't wanna lose, lose my shit. I, I don't usually talk on any spaces because there are so many agents that butt in. They tend to butt in and talk about things that are less important, that's how you can tell they're in there.↗

3:38:09@mrharharharvestand then it just, so I wanted to point that out and apologize to- Helgi, 'cause I wasn't, you know, I was started to communicate with her, and then I said, I kept posting and saying, "Can you see this? Can you see my screenshot here?" And I didn't get anything back, and I'm like, "Okay, I'm just gonna tell you guys, 'cause this is, this is how bad it is, and what you have to do is challenge Grok. I do it all the time, and just push because it's an AI system, and I think there's- People connected into it that are perhaps billionaires, and they are trying to make these changes, but there's so much content working against us. It's maddening. It's just, it's absolutely maddening.↗

3:39:02@joann_marieI'm trying to invite the person that posted that picture in the nest so that he can come up and Yeah, I mean, they-- I think they see keywords or stuff like that and, the, it, it just takes them out. I don't know, I don't know exactly how they do it. I don't know about technology. It, it,↗

3:39:21@mrharharharvestand it, there have-- you know, there's been, I mean, you know, I could go off on so-- in, into so many different directions, I'm trying not to, but, you know, there are, you could say, entities or there's a demonic presence that can come through Through equipment. And, you know, even if you go back and you look up, you know, in the,↗

3:39:46@mrharharharvestyou know, in the goaisha, demon goaisha, there's certain ones that actually are known to be able to come in through systems, and that some of these rituals that-- and there's people on the spaces that I have dealt with, there's one in particular since two thousand and eight That has been possessed and has had these powers to just completely o- overtake and use, weaponize,↗

3:40:20@mrharharharvestthese systems against us, get, extract information. You know, again, I'm, I'm like going off In a direction that's too much for this topic, but↗

3:40:31Speaker 11I'm sorry to, I'm sorry to interrupt, just, just to validate what you're saying for one minute. Many exorcists will validate exactly what you're saying. These things take over, their victims' phones very easily. Texts say, "F you," you know, they're, they're, they're, they're all a-holes, alright? That's what demons are. That's how you become a demon, alright? You're the scum of the earth.↗

3:40:50@joann_marieand then they-- Oh, some↗

3:41:02Speaker 11Connected to CIA agents and stuff. I've been, oh yeah, well, think about, I've been, I've Is, is it's a seal of Solomon. You can look it up, it's on Wikipedia, it's everywhere. Just look up seal of Solomon, that's the symbol, it's in the Library of Congress. and it's totally tied to demon summoning. It's on the Aleister Crowley book. he's a, he calls himself six six six the Beast, Aleister Crowley. He was the dark magician, MI six, working with Rothschilds. Oh, sorry, go ahead. It's, yeah, Star of, Star of Rhamphan. Oh, yeah, it's a, it's actually, it's, it's both. If you say Star of Rhamphan, that's correct as well. It's, it's, it's used, because think about it, right? What, what the star, what it is, it's on that book called Lesser Key of Solomon by Aleister Crowley, and Mathers, that Mathers dude. So, so it's, it's,↗

3:42:13Speaker 11a-and-and so it's about demon summonings.↗

3:42:18@mrharharharvestWell, in, in the 1940s, they, you know, there are, you know, declassified, you know, documents that talk about these groups that were hired to do, to practice doing rituals to use, you know, for control. And so it's, you know, it's like↗

3:42:41Speaker 11And listen, I, I, I hate to say this too, 'cause, 'cause this is, Ian's right. I always had, I had to concede, Ian. I've had to do this multiple times, 'cause like, I'm like, "No, it's not, it's not them, it's not them." But Ian's right though, right? This term, Jewish supremacy, okay? So, but, but I, I had to clarify, and then I was right. It's like, "Oh, you guys aren't talking about all Jews, right?" 'Cause We're talking about all Jews, alright? We all know, by the way, we're not talking about, when we're talking about Islam stuff, too. We're not talking about all, I know Muslim, I knew Muslims and Jews growing up, they're all great people, alright? We, we all have, alright? We're talking about a group of Talmudic people and Dan Balzarian, a very intelligent guy like Ian, too. These are both like, kind of poker, kind of chess, logic kind of guys, right?↗

3:43:32Speaker 11And, and, and they↗

3:43:40Speaker 11Some of the extremists. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah.↗

3:43:44@mrharharharvestI mean, there's, I mean, those are just broad, obvious things that I think everybody kind of knows, but how are they working in these systems and what's happening to people? And like, you know, here, Helgi, can you talk about your book? Your hands up. Can somebody give her the mic?↗

3:44:02@joann_marieYeah,↗

3:44:03@mrharharharvestit's, it's a hymn. And hey, welcome. I↗

3:44:05@joann_mariecan never say↗

3:44:06@mrharharharvestyour↗

3:44:06@joann_mariename.↗

3:44:09@mrharharharvestso, yes, the book is actually called A Memorandum on Ritual Murders by Vladimir Dall. It was, compiled in, 1844. And what it does is it was originally started to look into a, a murdered child, in, in Russia. So what he ended up doing was he started looking up into what else happened Going on, he started going through, court documents, all sorts of, you know, ancient texts and all that stuff from the country he was in, Russia at the time. And, well, it turns out that he found a hundred and thirty-four different instances of this, the same exact, thing happening. And what it was, was, Christian children, preferably boys, would be kidnapped, they would be, exsanguinated, they would be cut open and bled, and then it turns out that all coincidence Generally, all one hundred and thirty-four of those instances, it was Jews who did it, and they would take this blood and they would bake it into their, their unleavened bread for both Passover and Easter.↗

3:45:14@mrharharharvestOkay. Now think about that, they're using Christian child blood,↗

3:45:18@adolfharperyeah, to↗

3:45:19@mrharharharvestbake their bread for Easter. I didn't have you read this,↗

3:45:22@joann_mariePassover of Blood by Ariel Toaff. It's a good one. He exposes what, what happens like those exact things. I'll post it in the proper bill so that you, you check it out. Heritage, I don't know. Yeah, I'll keep trying and I keep failing. We↗

3:45:37@mrharharharvestwouldn't ever believe it, I think, if it wasn't for all this Epstein stuff coming out.↗

3:45:42Speaker 11Oh, well, but by the way, Maybe if you look this up, this is like in major magazines publications, Saudi Arabia actually has a, a black magic police, 'cause they know that this stuff's very real. We actually should probably have something like that here in the US, 'cause we have so much witchcraft going on. Look at the Klins, look at every side. Trump, Trump's a damn witch. I think like his mother or something, like was a witch. I mean, these people are all witches, so- I don't, I don't think so. I don't↗

3:46:06@mrharharharvestthink Trump's a I don't think so. You↗

3:46:08Speaker 11might be right. I don't know, that's just my opinion. You honestly might be right.↗

3:46:11@mrharharharvestYou, yeah, there's a lot of stuff that you spew out really fast, but↗

3:46:16Speaker 11why do you, why do you think he does that symbol? What, what's that diamond symbol they do? 'Cause to me, like, that's, that's from like that Aleister Crowley book, where they, where they put like that diamond symbol over the, they all like do that really, remember, like, remember Trump, Eric Trump was doing it,↗

3:46:33@mrharharharvestYeah.↗

3:46:34@patriotwolf14Like he's, he's corrupt but not a witch, is my opinion.↗

3:46:38@mrharharharvestYeah, well I- You could be totally right,↗

3:46:39@patriotwolf14you, you both could be totally right.↗

3:46:41@mrharharharvestAll esoteric stuff, I study everything I know all about Crowley, in fact I have his book and his tarot cards in my house with art on the walls. And maybe that's, maybe that's- Hey, listen, I don't judge.↗

3:46:52Speaker 11Hey, listen, as long, as long as your philosophy is you're against tyranny and you love thy neighbor, then, then like you're my friend.↗

3:46:58@mrharharharvestIt's, again, it's, it's like spewing out all kinds of stuff that doesn't, it's not really- Hey, Ian, why are you mad at Lupa, man? Ian, why are you mad at Lupa, man? Oh my God, how is this? Crowley's that↗

3:47:12Speaker 11everything is bad. If, if Crowley is anti-tyranny, if Crowley says, "Hey, I'm, I'm against the central bank, a Rothschild central bank," if Crowley ever said that, then I'm a, I'm a friend of his, and I think he's a smart guy. If he didn't, you know who did? Bobby Fischer. Bobby Fischer was a, is a smart guy. He said a lot of smart stuff, didn't he?↗

3:47:31@joann_marieOkay. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, but, Joe, I don't know. Okay, I should. He's a really smart guy, really good chess player. You have so much stuff that I feel like↗

3:47:41@mrharharharvestyou're an agent. I mean, everybody else is putting out five, but I also got one, two, three, four, five, everybody's↗

3:47:45@joann_mariejust talking over each other and it's crazy. Okay, well, let's go to our hunt. Adolf, go for it.↗

3:47:55@adolfharperI'm back. Sorry. I was out back mowing. I just sent a shit ton of pictures to the chat. Plant food, have chickens, have, don't be lazy. That is the number one thing I'm trying to instill in my children, is to not be lazy and actually do something, 'cause If you grow your own food, you feel a thousand times healthier. If you feed your own animals and you eat your own animals, you feel a thousand times better. Everyone is too lazy and decadent and wants to bitch on the internet and say, "I don't like this and this and this," but I'm not gonna do a damn thing to go out and plant a tree or feed an animal to slaughter it because-↗

3:48:49@mrharharharvestHave you heard? Yeah. So have you- Is part of the reason you're creating, you know, making your own food because you heard that they actually put cumin, mix them into the feed for like, maybe in spam or something? Oh, that's what they're doing with immigrants. Stuff that white people eat, the goat meat. I've seen some posts about that and it freaks me out. Now I'm↗

3:49:12Speaker 13actually, I've been doing this. I heard they were going house to house and they were taking the immigrants out of their houses and they were putting them in a grinder, like, like mincemeat. And it was just, it was a, it was another holocaust. But no, yeah, I know exactly what you're talking↗

3:49:28@mrharharharvestabout.↗

3:49:31Speaker 11Oh my god. I was gonna say, to the gentleman who's saying like, you know, grow your own food and stuff, what, how would you recommend getting started for that, like if you're someone who lives in the city? You put em,↗

3:49:38Speaker 13you put the seed in the, oh, you just, you know, like, buy land↗

3:49:41Speaker 11or something like that? Like, where do you buy land?↗

3:49:43Speaker 13Yeah, just snap your fingers and buy some land, that's all you gotta do, it's easy.↗

3:49:51@joann_marieOkay, no, it's not. I just don't live in the city. It God or whatever, stop unmuting your mic. Seriously, stop. Can I speak? Yeah. Can↗

3:50:04@adolfharperI speak for like one minute and I can answer every question that was just talked over? Yes? Yes. So, my family is generational farmers here in Canada. We're in the middle of the damn country. And, you know what? Eating the food off of our farms Like my family, my uncle, my aunt, everyone, eating the food off of our farms always tastes better. You go into the cities, you buy that meat that the goyim eat, it's garbage, it's trash. So we have always had our own farms, we have always had our own animals, we have always had our own gardens, we have always eaten off the land. The land can provide if you provide for the land, but way too many people are way too fat That lazy and complacent to actually put the effort in. I started an orchard a couple years ago in one of my properties, and I'm like, okay, I'm turning this into an orchard. Okay, I've got a huge garden. Okay, I'm gonna buy another house. Okay, I'm gonna actually work, earn, and buy. And you know what? Everyone else is way too busy going, "I'm gonna complain on the internet because, you know, I'm unhappy." You know what? Go out, put the work in, collect as many shekels as you can. Get away from their system, move out to the middle of nowhere. You can find a lot of thirty to forty thousand dollar houses in the middle of nowhere for nothing, like literally. Where? New everywhere. Thirty to forty k. Everywhere.↗

3:51:53@adolfharperAnd they're, and they're like, "You're not condemned." I bought the first house outside of a city about fifteen years ago for forty-five thousand dollars.↗

3:52:04Speaker 13Fifteen↗

3:52:05@joann_marieyears ago.↗

3:52:06@adolfharperNo, no, I've recently bought all surrounded property. Yeah, but fifteen years ago,↗

3:52:11Speaker 13bro, you bought a place fifteen years ago.↗

3:52:15@adolfharperYeah.↗

3:52:15Speaker 13Look, I'm gonna tell you for free right now, alright? Go, go to Zillow, just do nationwide, type in forty-five K as, as your price limit, and tell me how many of those places are even fucking livable. I'm, how many there are and how many are, are even livable. There's no fucking-- There's, there's no livable houses in the US for fucking forty K anymore. Maybe Steal from your grandparents or some shit like this, and they wanna give you their, their old shack or whatever, maybe a log cabin, if you're okay with living in the middle of fucking, like literally the middle of nowhere, maybe you↗

3:52:46@adolfharpercan- I will trade you right now. If you can find me a log cabin in the middle of nowhere, I will trade you a three point five acre adjoining property with, one house out in the middle of nowhere off of Highway 16 in Canada that I bought, then I've continued to buy all adjoining properties for almost next to nothing because nobody wants to live in ghost towns anymore, nobody wants to go to a A real estate sale where, oh, all these old people died and guess what, this is a ghost town. Okay. We are literally an hour and a half from the next major city, which doesn't equate to much because it is now filled with Somalians and all sorts of dirty browns. And when I say dirty browns, I mean immigrants that came here from third world shit all countries. Not those hot Argentinian girls or any of those.↗

3:53:50@adolfharperCanada's gone to shit. It's white flight, and that is exactly what is happening. And I've been speaking up against this for the last twenty fucking years, and I get called a racist. I'm at the point I don't care, and now people are coming up to me, "Oh, you called COVID kinda right, and you kinda called the immigration system kinda right. But guess what? Don't afraid to be racist, and don't afraid to be hurtin' people. People's feelings, because at the end of the fucking day, ninety-nine percent of the people you meet are fucking retarded, and the rest of the other ones are even more retarded than that. Good observation.↗

3:54:33@joann_marieYeah, thank you. No, great points, Al. Alright, let's go to the next hand. Nico, welcome, go for it.↗

3:54:41@mindarchetypesYeah, I think Don was actually before me. He's had his hand up since before I got here. Yeah, but he hasn't↗

3:54:45@joann_mariespoken, and I try to go to the people who hasn't spoken yet, and, but I'll go to him after you, or unless you want to talk and I'll go to him. Thank you, Don. I↗

3:54:53Speaker 9appreciate that, though.↗

3:54:55@mindarchetypesYeah, I was just trying to be polite. I just wanted to chime in on the, like, growing your own food thing when you're in the city. it's actually pretty easy. You just gotta start saving up little by little, buy some garden beds, get some Home Depot buckets, look into vertically farming things in, like, PVC structures. Like, if you got windows and space that's otherwise occupied by stuff you don't need, you can easily turn it into indoor farming. And that was just a little-↗

3:55:28@joann_marieYou can use special↗

3:55:29@mindarchetypeslights,↗

3:55:30@joann_marieman. Thank you so much, Niko. Alright, Don, go for it.↗

3:55:35Speaker 9While we're on the topic of land, I'd like it to be very clear that, you know, you are in Canada, but that doesn't exclude the fact that generational wealth is the reason why America even exists completely today. When the US Federal Reserve was founded, people like your ancestors had thousands of acres and would benefit from a system that made them wealthy inherently due to the fact that they had a lot of land. Now, the US had a Homestead Act of eighteen sixty-two. The US offered up to a hundred and sixty acres of federal land essentially for free. What you had to do is live on it for five Five years, build a dwelling, improve the land, farm it, etcetera, file paperwork proving compliance. The US had variations of this that were degraded across a hundred years, and eventually in nineteen seventy-six it basically ended. Us going out into the middle of nowhere in our country and building a homestead and getting up to a hundred and sixty acres for essentially free, and you'd have to farm it and improve it. Wow, that sounds like the hard work Adolf was talking about. That sounds like something that isn't really passionate in human degree. But what limited, what limits your inspiration is the fact that you're underneath the US Federal Reserve, which, you know, comes around, right around the time where, the Homestead Act, was being degraded by the, you know, general mining laws and all of the really powerful people that own-- I talk about the Hearst company,↗

3:57:29Speaker 9all the time, the Hearst family. their, the dad, the g-great proprietor of all the wealth, went out into the middle of nowhere and founded the largest gold mine and the largest silver mine in North America, and had one son and gave his entire wealth to it, and he subsequently made the first comic strip ever. He ran a newspaper, and he- Found a very niche comic strip and put it into a newspaper for the first time. These are the type of people that have the most influence, and we're no longer able to start that by ourselves. And I think with enough people that understand that the land is where we get our wealth from, people just don't make diamonds, people just don't make gold. You can't just, make food appear out of thin air. You need to farm the land, you need to do the hard work. But what comes with the hard work is the fact that work- We're able to do it, and we're being suppressed right now. We're being actively fought against the-- and coddled with the cities, the technology. We're being completely suppressed of our natural human nature to go out and provide for ourselves. I say this all the time, raccoons don't work, yet there's raccoons. Deer don't work, you know, there's bears. None of these creatures on this planet work a nine to five, and yet somehow they're still sustained. But they also aren't governed By a Federal Reserve. They don't have a monetary system, and they don't live in garbage cans in the wild, though. Well, forcibly because they're under the Federal Reserve↗

3:59:03@joann_mariesystem.↗

3:59:05Speaker 9But the, the, the fact is that we're able to take this back. Somehow we're able to-- It was available to us at one point, clearly. At one point in time, our history allowed for us, American citizens, and the like, to come here and stake a claim and provide a homestead For their family, and then also have the means of production, like farming, I could trade for other things, et cetera. And this is the, the corruption of America. And what's weird is we were talking about,↗

3:59:37Speaker 9little, little Mary And the issue with this is, is it happens all around this time, this, this, this inflection point of 1900, the ear-- the late 1800s and early 1900s has all of the answers that we need On the reason why America isn't the, the place that we thought it was when we were growing up, and the reason why it was at one point in time a place where all of us would have loved to live. And this is, I think, the Homestead Act is something we need to implement as citizens. We need to start getting this into Congress and, and the state and the Senate, and that instead of fighting the ADL or whatever and all, all the organizations, we need to empower ourselves with the land that we so effort- We effortlessly have a plenty of, you know, Trump ran on, he was gonna build ten new cities. Do, does anybody remember that? Trump was gonna build ten new American cities, he was gonna call them Freedom Cities, and now we have what? We don't have anything, and we, we need to get back to the fact that we can take it for our own. It's out there, there's land, nobody lives in Montana, no one lives in Dakotas, no one lives out there. We-- it's farmable land, we can go out there and do it.↗

4:00:53@joann_marieand John, I don't know if you've seen this, but I think it's-- they are taking over the farms, and I think it's seventy-seven farms each, each week or something. I, I forgot the exact data, but it's a↗

4:01:09Speaker 9Joanne, they were able to subvert the US farmer in order to make them burn their crops, they had to kill their animals, they had to completely decimate their farms and sell off land to keep their profits up. Then all of a sudden property taxes, it's the federal, US Federal Reserve that is the-↗

4:01:32@joann_marieOh no, I, I learned in a- Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. That, that they forced them to have this type- So seeds that they can only use once, and if they get caught like putting their, the seeds from their farm, they get like a, like a really big fine and stuff like that. Dude, it's just like a horrific mafia, like I don't understand how it got this bad. But yeah, thank you, thank you so much for, for all your comments, Don. And hopefully Mulberry can come up at some point. She, she's busy right now, but she knows a lot more about this. David, go for it.↗

4:02:07@nietzsche258918The idea that we're going to propitiate Washington, the very people that enslave us, to get a better deal, of course, is fantastical thinking. This isn't going to happen. We aren't ruled by incompetent firemen, we're ruled by dedicated archness. Your freedom comes at their expense, and that is it. You know, it's what we were talking about yesterday in the Matrix, where when they hold the battery up and say, "This is what you are to us." You are a slave. The idea that we would let you go is ludicrous. When does that ever happen? David, isn't my point though... Hold on, hold on, hold on. You're never going to propitiate the master in order to be free. And by the way, wealth doesn't come from the ground. Wealth is the product of human effort and ingenuity. Yes, we get that from nature, we get that from the ground. But since that's the so, if you want to control the most wealth in this world, you don't simply control diamond mines or gold mines, you control people, because they're the ones that take the raw material of nature and convert it to something of value. So really what we're really talking about is controlling your few cubic feet of flesh. You only have one freedom, because you only have one mind, one body, and the reason why they come after specific rights, which are, I will remind you, mere qualities of freedom, is because if they take away those rights, namely the right to self-defense and the right to speak freely, you will have no means to defend all the other ones which lead back to what? Your body, the ownership of your own body, the struggle in America and in the world is between those who wish to be free and those who wish to, to enslave. And our government is completely owned by the slave masters. I really respect autonomous thinking, that's why I always just listen. Living off the grid, for instance, or living more autonomously, or like what Niko said, just living more autonomously within the city, however Let's not forget our God-given right to be free. We shouldn't always have to have the answer of running away. We should overcome. We're supposed to be free. That is our real birthright, is self-ownership. No one has a right to one moment of your time or your effort here on Earth, and the people that deign to rule you count on us. Skirting about, trying to get away, trying to change, they're trying to play the game or game the system. No, our emancipation comes, first of all, from calling out Jewish supremacy, which is what rules over us. And then, of course, there is no way that-- there is a critical mass of this great awakening that will happen where there is no way that they can continue to rule over us. Their numbers are too infinitesimally small. Thomas Jefferson was right, enlightened people cannot be tyrannized over. So we need to be- Become enlightened, and all these other things are not mutually exclusive to it. So I just want to say again, I really appreciate it. Thomas Massey does that, by the way. Totally lives completely autonomously. It's a very wise way to live. I totally appreciate it. All, all of our forefathers thought this too, by the way. But we still must understand the value of the Great Awakening, of speaking the truth, of sharing the truth. I did this in my personal life today. Someone just brought up what was going on in the Middle East, and I'm like, "No And I'm okay with that, by the way. I'm really okay with that. So I just wanna make sure that we understand, we differentiate the subject of the Great Awakening, which ultimately will emancipate us, and these other, shall we say, more tactical solutions.↗

4:05:45Speaker 9The, the, the idea is that you empower yourself via your body, David, and yes, all the world's wealthiest people own mines. Sorry to break it to you, David, but every single person in the entire world that has a lot of wealth gets it from the ground. I, I don't know where you think that wealth comes from, but it does definitely come from the dot com definitely↗

4:06:09Speaker 13big mining company owner, or you know, Elon Musk, definitely a pioneer and all the Saudis with oil,↗

4:06:14Speaker 9et cetera, et cetera, all the things that we, as people in the↗

4:06:17Speaker 13Saudis, there's much, much, the most of our economy is service-based business and, IP at this point in the United States. It's, it's, it's the, it's the Talmudic, it's the Talmudic Jewish↗

4:06:28@nietzsche258918supremacist I don't, I, I obviously know that we get our wealth from, we make wealth, we create wealth by referencing, going to the physical world, the ground. Of course we do. Everything in the world comes from something physical, yes, that is true. But it is ultimately the product of human effort and ingenuity. It takes a human to create wealth, right? It's not just-- nature just doesn't go, "Here, here's a chair." You have to turn that wood into a chair. Nature doesn't say, "Here, here's a light bulb." You have to take the phenomenal, that which phenomenal existence gives us, and convert it, right? This is a process of abstraction, human effort and thinking. Of course, these two things aren't mutually exclusive. They work together, right? However- This is why slavery is the confiscation of human effort. It's not just controlling someone, you can do-- when you imprison someone, they come in an expense. Slavery is where you specifically confiscate their effort. Now, since we plastisize our effort into money, that's very, very convenient. I'm okay with wealthy people or even people who think of themselves as oligarchs owning all the diamond mines, owning all the gold. I don't care. It's owning the people. It's the slavery that I care about. I'm not saying that I want to be wealthy, I just want to be free. Freedom is my wealth. That is what I'm talking about here. Don't, don't,↗

4:07:59@nietzsche258918What wealth is, is, is that which prolongs, sustains, or makes life more livable. That's what wealth is. It's not necessarily gold, it's not necessarily diamonds, it's that which prolongs and sustains and makes life more livable. And of course, the people that want to extract the most wealth notice they want to control people. The Bastiat said this in the middle of the nineteenth century. You have to make plunder more painful than Didn't work. And of course, what have these people done? They've reversed that. They're plunderers. They're extracting your wealth and reducing you to servitude. That's it. That is slavery. All this other stuff, oh, Elon Musk controls this, or this guy controls that. The question is, do they control you? Do they literally get to murder you or put you in a cage? That's what government has become today. A small group of people who use the threat of murder and encagement to make you obey and pay them. What they are now is a small group of people In specific geography, they use the threat of murder or engagement to make you obey and pay them. That is slavery. That is what that which we wish to emancipate ourselves from. So everything else, all of this is good stuff. This is something Truth Teller talks a lot about. How do you pull out of the system? At least don't give the evil people the money. At least give a local businessman the money if you're gonna do business in your local community. At least work with the good people and not the evil people. However, we still need to be on this path Emancipation, so we don't have to deal with them at all, because they can't live, they can't work, they can't operate at this scale without our complicity, without us thinking they have some legitimate right to do so. The philosopher Fichte said this also in the nineteenth century. You're the one to obey these people, you're the one to listen to these people. Why don't you give a rat's behind of what they say or do? So this great awakening is going to end up with their emancipation and all those other things that you're talking about are really good things And do lend themselves to the cause, but let's not forget that the emancipation itself comes from the slavery of the mind, throwing those shackles off and absolutely delegitimizing everything they're doing to us today.↗

4:10:17@joann_marieThat was amazing. It's, it's, it's just beautiful hearing you. Thank you. All right. and guys, please repeat Post a space, I haven't said it in a while, so please do it, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and David and Colin and everybody in the panel is just absolute superstars, and thank you so much guys for, for being here, and, and yeah, this, this is, this is such a great space. Alright, Nico, go for it.↗

4:10:48@mindarchetypesI just wanted to push back on the homesteading idea a little bit, because this is something I've thought out. at least I'd like to think that I've thought it out. I don't think it's going to work long term. I don't think that going towards eighteenth and early nineteenth century social norms in a world that no longer has eighteenth and nineteenth century infrastructures or economic systems or social, like, norms is going to work. There's this↗

4:11:21@mindarchetypesKind of flawed thinking within conservatism that's kind of rampant with it, where the idea is to be reflexive to a point where you're going back in time, and it, it never works. Like the homesteaders didn't stop Being successful, there's still a few around because they had established wealth and dynasties, but those things slowly die if you don't evolve with society. I think the right thing to do is to push the bad people out of the system and take over the system.↗

4:11:57Speaker 13How's that working out for ya?↗

4:12:00@nietzsche258918Oh, hey, I, I would love to respond 'cause I, I can↗

4:12:03@joann_marieactually answer you and David. May, maybe Colin could, could say something like, "Uninterrupted for a sec." Colin, go for it.↗

4:12:12Speaker 13You know what, actually, Nico has a pretty good point here. Like, look, the, the whole homesteading thing is great. The idea of self-autonomy is awesome, right? Like, you know, I myself have a few lemon trees, right, in my backyard. You know, it's nice, right? But this idea that we're gonna homestead our way out of this, you know, it's fucking, it's more ridiculous than just thinking that, normal political, you know, po-politics is the right way to go as well, right?↗

4:12:37Speaker 13Like, It's the case that maybe you could get away from the system and all of the Jewish supremacy and globalism by going out and living in the woods alone. like, you know, now you're, you're drawing a parallel between two realities that are, both pretty awful. Living in the woods, fighting for every last morsel that you eat, whether-- And by the way, farming and, you know, running your own homestead, a lot of people, you know, say that they do this, and I'm not saying that anyone here is being untruth↗

4:13:11Speaker 13Homesteading when you're someone that hasn't, that's had a career in a fucking office cubicle, has never done any sort of planting or farming in your entire life, and now you're just gonna live off of your own one acre property. You're like, living a dream that's, more ridiculous than becoming rich and becoming part of the elite class you're trying to get away from, right? Like this idea is just a little bit too, you know, simplified. Nor do I think most people even really want it. I certainly don't wanna live in the middle comes down to it, you know, you're not, gonna just be a statistic or whatever. Like, that's good, you know, you should live your life in that way, but, you know, that doesn't mean that you need to live off of your own fucking fig jam and, you know, your own chickens or whatever and, and forget about going to the grocery store ever, you know? There's not, it's not this binary between buying KFC and goyslop and raising your own chickens. Like there is a, there is a middle ground that's perfectly fine where you can have a civilization and system, and you don't need to completely abandon everything that's fucking nice just because Jews have subverted it a bit.↗

4:14:14@mindarchetypesAnd if you're abandoning it, abandoning it, you may be like making your own life better and more free, but you're actually going to be worsening it for everybody else, because you are essentially removing yourself from the system, and that's just going to empower the existing system, because it's going to take over those small little areas. Like that's just how history has gone. Imagine getting all↗

4:14:38Speaker 13the defenders, right? And they just decide, "Fuck it, I'm gonna abandon fighting back at all. I'm just going to completely opt out." Out of any sort of system and fuck off to the woods. That's great for like all of these globalists that don't really want people like that, coming up with their own bright ideas anyway. This is excellent news for them where most people are already comfortable enough to not go out and do this sort of, extreme form of living. You know, they're not gonna do that anyway. So for the most part, they're happy that the people that are hardy enough to go do that just completely fucking opt out of the system and leave anyways.↗

4:15:14@nietzsche258918Yeah, that's what happens state by state, right? You know, the, the people that remain in the state that is relatively authoritarian, why then they're much more authoritarian because the dissenters left. So the runaway defense isn't the best way. It's just, you know, autonomy is a good thing, but the runaway thing, suppose we all ran away, you know, and moved over here, and now there's a whole lot of us, they would just come out there and tyrannize over us, you know?↗

4:15:41@joann_marieVery well stated, David. And, and you're a little bit far from the mic, but- I'm gonna reset 'cause it↗

4:15:46@nietzsche258918sounds that way to me too.↗

4:15:48@joann_marieOkay. Let's go to someone who hasn't spoken yet, Stuart Peter. Welcome, go for it.↗

4:15:56@nietzsche258918Hello, everybody. Stuart Peter. Awesome name, dude. Hi. yeah, well, steward is 'cause I'm a steward of the Earth, I'm not a mister, 'cause I'm not missing. And I think if you're a steward, you should be proud of being a steward of the Earth, yeah? And it just sets you up to be who you are. Well, that's the first thing. Second thing,↗

4:16:17@nietzsche258918I want you to see, when you understand the problem you have in America with the lobby, okay? I want you to also understand that Britain and all of Europe Have exactly the same problem that we have to try and deal with as well. So when you hear something coming out of the kingdom or out of Europe, please understand it's from the same kind of people who sit in Washington, okay? We got the same problem, guys. All right? So that's that. Now then, as for our city, guys, well, you gotta understand they like slavery, that's why they live in cities. They'd like to do what they're told, they'd like to do it, okay? And you gotta accept that. Right? Now, when they're in their millions, the amount of logistical food and supplies that's got to go into that city every day, nonstop, constant to feed them is enormous. And the bigger they get, the more the corporations are gonna need the land to get that into the cities to feed them. Okay? That's the problem that you've got. Now, for the city guys, and anyone who wants to make money, I'll give you an idea, okay? Consider a tower block of, Grow, you know, and growing food vertically in a tower block, and at the bottom floor, you have the shop with all the vegetables and stuff they've grown there, and on the top floor, a restaurant for anyone who is too busy to cook, they could just go there and get freshly cooked food there and have everything hydroponic, and all of the glass on the outside of the tower can be a solar panel, and so the whole thing, the whole tower will grow food For free. Once it's up and running, once it's up and started, it's like a machine. It will just keep going, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick. And as long as you got people who plant seeds and ensure that the water bucket and the, and the feeds are all right, you can feed a city from within. As soon as you take off the need of the city to ravage the land outside, all of the people who wanna live outside and be free We'll have more room to do it because the corporations won't need the land to provide food for the cities, 'cause the cities can do it themselves. It's a case of encouraging the cities to be self-sufficient. That's the key to it, okay? And that is where, you can gain freedom. Now, I'm a Brit, I love you all, and I'm gonna chip out now because it's your conversation. Wait, before↗

4:18:44@nietzsche258918you go, could you just say it was the night before Christmas and all through the house?↗

4:18:51@joann_marieit, it, it would be amazing, thank you.↗

4:18:54@nietzsche258918Yes, your voice, I just, I can just hear the, I can just hear those words coming from you. Well, bless you all. If, if you got any questions you wanna ask, please, I'll, I'll try my best, like, you know, but I love you all. I want you to sort out your problems, being Americans, and just ensure there's only Americans. Right, and, and believe this too, okay? There are European Jews, the Kassaras, right? They're also known as the Mafia, the Jewish Mafia, right? And they're really much like the Cosa Nostra, except they're more efficient, okay? now, they're the ones we got the problem with, the Kassaras, right? Now, Russia, we thought, Mr. Putin, there's a picture of him online somewhere of him kissing the wall.↗

4:19:44@nietzsche258918Right? Now when I saw that, I thought, "What is a man who wants to be elected into Russia's presidency going up to a wall and kissing it for? Now why do your politicians do that?" Now then, I put that question out there into the universe, and what came back was a really funny joke. It said, "We're not the lobby in Russia." With the administration,↗

4:20:16@nietzsche258918they are still the same administration since 1970. So, there, that's it. Enjoy that little novelty. Thank you, my friend.↗

4:20:28@joann_marieThank you, and you, you have a, a really cool voice, too.↗

4:20:32@nietzsche258918God bless you all. Have a lovely time.↗

4:20:34@joann_marieGod bless you. Alright, let's get to someone who hasn't spoken, again. Game of Thrones, welcome. How are you, my friend?↗

4:20:43Speaker 15Qué tal, hermano. Hola. Hola. Siempre de bueno. You, you know, if you don't say you're doing well and you just buy into the [guest], you know, your spirit's gonna crash, those around you're gonna crash. You know, God just said that He gave us a discerning spirit, and the Holy Spirit is either in you or, you know, or, you know, you went against that and you worshiped hell. You're on team Satan,↗

4:21:15Speaker 15as in Satan Yahuwah's the synagogue, as the den of vipers. I mean, this morning there was a, a, I was on a space, I couldn't not believe it. What are you talking? This lady was just larping away about how Zionism is the only way to, you know, to take things into account and to be this way and that and whatever, and making such a fuss, truly, Ian, you should-↗

4:21:42Speaker 15I don't think you were in the room, but she said, "You know, nobody talks about the Holocaust anymore, and they talk about Gaza and, you know, genocide." I, I couldn't. I, I just literally couldn't believe it. I just said, "Okay," you know? "Uh, they're coming apart, it seems." I saw a picture of Trump today shaking hands with, Macron. Well, it looks like he either had a stroke or he's favoring a very gimpy right arm. Take a look at that carefully, it's all throughout. Ian, you saw it.↗

4:22:15Speaker 15we also had a picture today of a, deep underground military base excavator that had the, US Air Force insignia on the side of it. Very strange shit going on all around. look at, Mark Levin threw a fit today. You know, basically, the, the word is he's-- I think he's, intimating that he's going to blackmail Anyone who's left on the short APAC list into doing his bidding and finishing off, you know, Iran. I, I couldn't, I can't believe the level of insanity these people. They literally act so entitled that we are literally, like David says so many times, we're their servants. They don't wanna let go of the Gwaii Buh, you know,↗

4:23:10Speaker 15Drivers and butlers and maids and gardeners and whatever, we're, you know, we're here to serve them. Oh, bullshit. World's waking up in real time. I'll be seventy-one in a month, and I, I'm telling you guys, I'm really proud of the gen- generations that came after me. I mean, yeah, I woke up to Schofield reference lie about five, six years ago, and it's been amazing to see people look at me like Huh? You don't believe about the... No, I don't believe Pastor John Hagee and the people, he's right, yeah, yeah, look. No, sorry, that, that train took, you know, left the station a long, long time ago. We have to be strong people, we have to be prayerful, we have to discern. My Bible says, "Be wise as a serpent, but harmless as a dove." That means don't go just into someone's face, don't be the, you know, the wild ones who get on like the Mitches or the, the, you know, the usual crew, you know, Yitz, all these guys who get on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm gonna block you, I'm gonna block you, I'm gonna block. Oh, come on with the, this crap. Come with love or stay home. Better yet, just don't, just don't show your face. I follow most of the people I look down this list, but if I don't follow you, make me aware of it, follow me, I'll follow you back. Keep praying, guys, because we are literally turning the tide of humanity. God bless you.↗

4:24:54@joann_marieGod bless your game, and I, I absolutely loved everything you said. Thank you, thank you so much for, for always being here. Alright, let's go to someone who hasn't spoken. Dave, Davey, welcome, go for it.↗

4:25:11Speaker 16Hi, guys. I was just listening to all of you, and I am like so upset about what's happening in the government right now. So I don't know if you guys are, I don't know if you feel the same way I do, but it's just, it's insane what's happening and,↗

4:25:34Speaker 16I'm not politically one way or another. I'm like, I follow what my heart is, and I don't wanna like do something that you guys are against or say something you guys are against. I don't wanna do that, but I'm saying that I feel that this is a wrong move in our, in our country. And I feel like we are very, in a very tough situation. Wait, what's the, what's, what's a↗

4:25:58Speaker 12wrong move?↗

4:25:59Speaker 16Yeah, wait, wait, just specifically. David, or you were saying David? Or no, I just asked, what,↗

4:26:06@nietzsche258918what is the wrong move? I, I missed that.↗

4:26:08Speaker 16Okay, thank you, David, for asking me. Because- Hold on,↗

4:26:11@nietzsche258918Nico, remember the word antecedent you just put up? See, this is an example. I'm looking for the antecedent to this. So what is this as the wrong move?↗

4:26:22Speaker 16Interesting you targeted that. Very interesting you targeted. I'm just saying that we are like not moving towards a government, a government with us, for us. That's what I'm worried about. A government that isn't for us and not with us in the American way, not for, Israel, not for- Other countries for us, for the American people. That's what I'm concerned about.↗

4:26:54Speaker 17Could you- Could you define what an American is? Hello? Could you define what an American↗

4:27:03@joann_marieis? I-I'll go, I'll go to you in a second.↗

4:27:05Speaker 16I'm not an American in the way I'm not an American because my con- my family moved here, but we were born here. In another way, I mean, my, dad- He is from Iceland and, he wasn't born here necessarily, but he came here and--↗

4:27:26@nietzsche258918See, from Reykjavik?↗

4:27:28Speaker 16Yeah, well, he's from, Iceland. He's from Iceland. I got a↗

4:27:31@nietzsche258918twelve-hour↗

4:27:32Speaker 13flight over and Reykjavik airport one time.↗

4:27:34Speaker 16Well, hello. He was a-- My, my also my dad was a, a, a colonel in the army, in the army. Well, let me, let me ask you this,↗

4:27:43@nietzsche258918so are you, are you-- Hold on one second. Are you an American citizen?↗

4:27:47Speaker 16Correct, I am.↗

4:27:48@nietzsche258918Okay. So when you say our government, so who controls our government?↗

4:27:53Speaker 16I would like to know because I'm really questioning that right now, David. Okay. I would like to know. How are you doing right now? Okay, well...↗

4:28:00@nietzsche258918Okay, well- I'm here,↗

4:28:02Speaker 16but I would, I question that, I really do, because I have to have a whole, like, dialogue about that. This is great. This is good. Let's, let's↗

4:28:10@nietzsche258918connect a couple of dots. Okay? So, first of all, do you consider what Israel is doing in Gaza as a genocide?↗

4:28:18Speaker 16Yes.↗

4:28:19@nietzsche258918Okay, so we know that a government in the world in 1080p is able to commit- Genocide in front of everyone else. Not in 1890, not in 1650, but like right now, in front of everybody. And then that government, right, is basically has ninety percent of our politicians on the payroll, and we see them going over there and making the humiliation ritual. So↗

4:28:43Speaker 16Yeah,↗

4:28:44@nietzsche258918that would imply- Can I↗

4:28:45Speaker 16tell you my dad would be so- Great, almost↗

4:28:46@nietzsche258918done, almost done. So, Debbie, no, Debbie, hold a second. It's okay, put your dad aside for a second. We're just reasoning things out here. Oh, but you didn't, sir. Oh, my friend, hold on just one second. So, what we've concluded is that Israel has a lot of control over the American government. Is that correct? 100%,↗

4:29:06Speaker 16100%. Okay.↗

4:29:07@nietzsche258918All right, now. We can't say it's just Israel, because a lot of these people are American citizens, like Larry Ellison, the people that own the media, and they're all-- So, and they're, and they're of the same tribe, so, and they're obviously operating on behalf of Jews in Israel and Jews in America. But it's not all Jews, so we say Jewish supremacists. So, we do. So the problem that immiserates all of Western civilization, the biggest problem by far, and the second biggest problem, and the third biggest problem, and the fourth biggest problem is It's Jewish supremacy. So wouldn't you say that that's the problem?↗

4:29:43@nietzsche258918Isn't that the answer to your question, what's happening? That's it, isn't it? That's who controls the government, right? I mean, it's as clear as day, right?↗

4:29:52Speaker 16I will not fall into that. I will not fall into that, but I feel like- Okay, where, where did, where did I lose you? Bebe, Bebe, Bebe is the problem. I don't feel like Israel's the problem. I feel Bebe is the problem.↗

4:30:05@nietzsche258918Okay. Okay. So If, if I told you that a poll taken by a Jew-↗

4:30:11Speaker 16I don't agree with that.↗

4:30:12@nietzsche258918When, hold on, a poll taken by a Jew, a people in Israel that believed that over eighty percent of them, close to eighty-five percent of them believed in ethnic cleansing of Gaza. So that's obviously not just Bibi, right? If I told you that half of those people believed in committing Amalek, which is exterminating every man, every woman, every child, even the animals, that half of the people in Israel- Believe in doing that, then obviously it's more than BB, right?↗

4:30:43Speaker 16Right. I believe- Okay, can I tell you something for a fact? Wait, no, we're, we're trying to follow a line of logic here. Can I tell you something for a- Okay, David, okay. Can I tell you something for a- Can I tell you something? Because when people are fed↗

4:30:57Speaker 16irrational thought and, and not fact for a long time- Period. They are done. That's RT. RT for a fact has done that to Russia. RT has done that. Okay, hold on, hold on. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, Israel is being fed that. I'm not, I'm not gonna blame Israelis because I don't know, I don't know if that's a factor or not. I don't know that. Are you, are you listening to me? Are you hearing me? Before you shut me off, before you shut me off, because they are being fed facts.↗

4:31:33@nietzsche258918Why is my mute button not working? Listen, one second here, okay? That's you. I'm sorry, but that's you. You're the one who's fed. Did she run away? Okay, that's fine. Oh, there you are. Okay, you're the one who's fed. You're the absolute product. You're the apotheosis of everything you're saying. It's right in your face. I literally told you what they say. They look you in the eye and they say we're ruling. They're the ones who change immigration policies across Western civilization. Even Charlie Kirk said, "Why is it that you people are inveigling people across our borders?" They're the ones saying that we're superior. You can read it in the Talmud. We can rape your children, it's okay. We can steal from you, it's okay. We can lie to you, it's okay. And what do you say? You say, "Well, they're The murderers and the people that are deracinating everything that's good about our commerce, our civilization, and what do you say? You say, "Gosh, they're propagandized." No, that's you.↗

4:32:34@nietzsche258918You can't not see and say the most obvious thing. I'm not, I'm not. That is absolutely you. Now listen, I just listen. I'm trying to help you here, right? You came into this room,↗

4:32:44Speaker 16please,↗

4:32:45@nietzsche258918please, please,↗

4:32:45Speaker 13please,↗

4:32:49@nietzsche258918please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please None are so blind as they who will not see, and that is you, my friend. There is nothing-- I'm gonna make this promise to you. There is nothing these people can't do to you, say to you, demonstrate to you, where you still won't go. It's got to be something else. Do you know why? Because they have strung the strings of guilt across your soul, and they're just playing them like a virtuoso. Cradle of the grave indoctrination. Everywhere you go, you see it, and they say it, and you believe it, and that When you get to the bottom of the rabbit hole and you find Jewish supremacy, it's up to you to have the courage to go, "Yes, that's it, it's obviously it, but you can't do it." So you know what? Sit back Come back when you can. If you lack the courage, I will still fight for you. I will still believe that you have the right to be free. I will still believe that you're not a goyim, that you're not cattle, that you're not a mere means to some other thing because you're a human with a divine light within you and you deserve to be free, irrespective of how many times you lick the blood of martyrs off of the knuckles of tyrants. You can do that all you want. Jewish supremacy is the problem. If you can't figure it out now, wait↗

4:34:06Speaker 17Let me debate her and I'll show her how that's-↗

4:34:09Speaker 18Sure,↗

4:34:09Speaker 17go ahead.↗

4:34:16Speaker 16Hi, Sonic. Not Jewish at any means. So David, for you to say that to me, you were so wrong↗

4:34:31@joann_marieabout me being, because I'm↗

4:34:33Speaker 17not, he, he didn't, he didn't↗

4:34:35@joann_marieclaim you were Jewish though. That is such an idiotic, idiotic thing he just said. Lady, lady,↗

4:34:43Speaker 17Debbie, I'm leaving. I'm leaving because this is too loaded.↗

4:34:45Speaker 16Because I don't want to stress anymore. Why are you leaving? I don't want to stress anymore. Debbie, don't run. I don't want to stress anymore.↗

4:34:53Speaker 17Debbie, don't run. There's↗

4:34:54Speaker 16no other reason why you're leaving. Debbie, you guys are just- I can show you the light, Debbie. Oh↗

4:35:00Speaker 17my God, that David person is just- I can show you the light, Debbie. Just quiet. I can show you the light, Debbie. Oh, could you let me get quiet as a He seems like a↗

4:35:10@joann_mariegoth of Christmas, like I can show you the↗

4:35:12Speaker 17night. Okay, so Debbie, are you ready to go on this journey with me? Right.↗

4:35:17Speaker 16I wanna talk to David, if I wanna talk to David, because he doesn't understand me one, one, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,↗

4:35:29Speaker 13twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two,↗

4:35:30Speaker 17twenty-three, twenty-four,↗

4:35:33@joann_marietwenty-five, twenty-six, twenty-seven, twenty-eight, twenty↗

4:35:35Ian MalcolmDebbie, thoughts on Victoria Newman? I don't understand. You're indifferent to the truth, and you're arrogant to suggest that maybe it doesn't have to be true. I'm arrogant to the truth. Yes, no, David, just he, he calmly tried to walk you through things, and then you said, "I don't care. I want to remain ignorant." I didn't↗

4:35:48Speaker 16say I don't care. I care about people. I didn't say I don't care. Okay, so do you care about the people↗

4:35:53Ian Malcolmin Gaza who are genocided?↗

4:35:57Speaker 16I↗

4:35:57Ian Malcolmdo care about them. Only↗

4:36:03Speaker 16Because they pay for, it's a media thing. It's a like corporate media. No, it's because they own it. You can just say it bluntly. Corporate↗

4:36:10Ian Malcolmmedia.↗

4:36:10Speaker 16I know, and I know, it's corporate media, I know it.↗

4:36:14Ian MalcolmNo, it's not corporate media, it's Jewish owned media.↗

4:36:17Speaker 15Jewish owned media, big difference.↗

4:36:21Ian MalcolmSo why are you upset that David pointed to the common denominator and said he was like, "Hey, because he didn't know that I..."↗

4:36:26Speaker 16Because he was a jerk and he didn't understand me. Why was he a jerk? David, a jerk? He wasn't a jerk. David is one of the classiest people I've ever↗

4:36:35Ian Malcolmencountered in a digital sphere. Where was he a jerk?↗

4:36:39Speaker 16He doesn't know me.↗

4:36:40Ian MalcolmBig meanie. You can say he doesn't know you. David doesn't know me either, but how is he a jerk?↗

4:36:47Speaker 16I'm gonna stop 'cause I can't fight, Debbie, Debbie, Debbie,↗

4:36:53Ian Malcolmno, no, no, stop. Debbie, we're not↗

4:36:55@joann_mariejerks. Never↗

4:36:58Ian Malcolmheard of Dr. The, the↗

4:37:05@nietzsche258918No, it's just sometimes when you walk them close to the edge and they say, "No, no, no, no, I guess okay, well, I can't," you know, and I really think this is sort of a microcosm, right? Because they're just a subset of people, they're just not going to get there. What have they been trained to think? You know, it's funny because doublethink is a real thing, and of course, this is Orwellian, an Orwellian idea that you can hold two ideas in your head at the same time. Now, notice when she got close to Jewish supremacy, what happened? She started taking away, she started saying, "Well, they don't have real agency." So just imagine if you walked into a room and you saw a bunch of people in the Epstein class assaulting a child, and her answer is, "Well, the guy maybe in the front's the bad guy, but all the other rapists, they're, they're just-- you know, they're just propagandized." No, no, no.↗

4:38:01@nietzsche258918I always call out the fact that each person has the divine spark, but they also unfortunately have the option to not look at it, to not listen to it, to go the other way. Can I add, David? This is why I say-- This is why I say that shame is the last vestige of virtue, because it's the light that says, "Turn around, it's getting dark. You must stop. And if you don't listen, if you don't, if you keep going from there, then you've lost your soul forever." So go ahead, my friend,↗

4:38:25Ian Malcolmthis money won't Right, good example.↗

4:38:31Speaker 17I, I was just gonna say, David, like if you wanted to get to her, like on a human level, you just had to like sorta get to know her, and then you could find the spot to make her understand where you're coming from, because you could come at it from a communist level, a Marxist level, a Jewish level. There's many different ways that you could have, you know, shown her that it's-- That you, you know, there's some↗

4:38:55Speaker 13people that are just lost causes, you know? That's just what it comes down to, Not spend too much time on it. It'd be, it would behoove you to get good at like figuring out which people are in that category so you don't waste too much time in life. Nope,↗

4:39:08@joann_mariebut↗

4:39:08Speaker 17if you↗

4:39:09@joann_mariewalk 'em down a couple of-- I mean, we, we have talked to, to Debbie a couple of times. The first time that I met her, she was literally crying. Oh, you know the dad, Joanne,↗

4:39:15Speaker 13you know her as↗

4:39:18@joann_mariewell, yeah. Yes. She, she was literally crying because she thought that Putin was gonna nuke America, and she was↗

4:39:29@joann_marieEntire like how the Ukraine war happened and all of those things, and she was like, "No, it's not true," you know, like she just repeats like, like Fox News situation, but I don't know, she sounds like a nice lady, but, yeah, she's just, very propagandized. So yeah, we, I, I, I know her. So yeah, this was not gonna go anywhere, like I promise you.↗

4:39:50Speaker 17But if, if you walk them down a logic line, you can find out really quick if they're↗

4:39:57Speaker 13a↗

4:40:00Speaker 13That one. They don't have to be, you know, a bad actor or subversive in any way. There, there's another category, and there's a lot of people that actually fit in this one. I think I'll figure↗

4:40:08Speaker 17using Hasbara on me. You wanna try me?↗

4:40:11Speaker 13I promise you I'm not. Does it feel like it?↗

4:40:13Speaker 17Let's do it. Come on, let's debate, come on.↗

4:40:15Speaker 13What do you want to do? What do you want↗

4:40:19Speaker 17to debate? I don't know, I think we're all on the same side. I like↗

4:40:26Ian Malcolmyou, so let's↗

4:40:29Speaker 13Before on this, this here platform, so I, I'm a little scared. Maybe I'll just not, maybe I won't do it today.↗

4:40:34@joann_marieI take it easy on Colin. Yeah, I don't wanna, you know, I just-↗

4:40:40Speaker 13I get nervous. I'm very conflict-avoidant.↗

4:40:43Speaker 9I love you, Colin.↗

4:40:45Speaker 17I mean, thanks, Colin.↗

4:40:48Speaker 17But if anyone doesn't think it's not them, I'll debate you.↗

4:40:54@joann_marieI'm pretty sure the entire panel is, is agrees with you, yeah? Because I mean, maybe a piñata can come up like- You're right, it's the↗

4:41:02@nietzsche258918Knights↗

4:41:02Speaker 17Templar. Wait, wait, Don't show me your Hasbara, dude. It's not↗

4:41:24Ian Malcolmgood.↗

4:41:24@joann_marieOh, oh↗

4:41:27Ian Malcolmmy God. Don't stand out. Isn't this the whole name Hasbara?↗

4:41:29@nietzsche258918Alright, don't stand, don't stand in front of the bus station and say that to people. I can show you my Hasbara.↗

4:41:38Speaker 13Friend of mine got arrested for that, dude. You gotta be careful.↗

4:41:42@nietzsche258918But no, it really is true. I find that, and this is true in my personal life, sometimes it's kind of like chemotherapy, you know? You, there's just something in the human will, and a sort of, a mature intellect identifies with learning things and not with defending just whatever point that it's arrived at at the moment. And I think that there is a certain-- and especially with Jewish supremacy, because it does take a bit, you do have to summon a little courage. To call it out. This is why I said, and you heard me say it to her or in front of her, that there's a point where you, when you get to the bottom of the rabbit hole and you find that this is the problem, you're left with a choice, either to call it out or to avoid it forever. And if that second category is, is what you're confronted with, I can't do much. But I'm still fighting for those people too, because I think everybody should be free. I think everybody should be emancipated, and, you know, Like I have a friend on this platform that doesn't engage in politics. He's a, he's a dear friend and he's very successful on this platform. And, you know, we should be able to talk about other things. We should be able to live our lives. We shouldn't have to, have to talk about this. So for everybody that doesn't want to or wants to avoid the subject, you know, we love you too, and we want you to be free too, and we care about your children too, and we care about your parents and your grandparents and the people in your, in your community, and you're just right to be free and live with happiness and equanimity. So I can't do anything for them. But give them the truth. It's not, like, someone asked this yesterday, didn't they, Joanne? And I said, "You know, don't think of yourself as trying to win an argument, just make your point. They, they are the ones that ultimately have to drink from the well. You just show them where it is. That's it."↗

4:43:26Speaker 17Well, I can show you a real life example. Carmelo Anthony. I'll give you a trivia question. How's the Carmelo Anthony situation an example of Jewish supremacy? Go, Bing bong, bong bong, Bing b↗

4:43:41Speaker 13Carmelo was black, he wasn't a Jew.↗

4:43:43Speaker 17no, no, but I can show you how it's tied to Jewish supremacy, you ready?↗

4:43:48@joann_marieBING BONG, BING BONG, BING BONG.↗

4:43:50Speaker 17Can you, can you tie the knot together? Can you figure it out? No, go for it, yeah.↗

4:43:57Speaker 17Okay, so you really don't understand and see how so many black people were rooting for Carmelo Anthony and saying Austin Macaugh deserved it. You, you, you can't piece it all together?↗

4:44:10@joann_marieI mean, they have been supported with, with rap and also with the language that they like change it and, yeah, they--↗

4:44:18Speaker 17You got, you guys haven't unlocked the second. Stage, they're all neomarxists, because what marxism's doing. You don't say. Oh, I'm getting it now. But now, but now all they do is see, instead of the bourgeoisie and the proletariat, they just see their oppressors, white people, and the oppressors, any people of color. And so the reason why they thought that it was cool or funny that Austin Metcalf got stabbed and murdered, and they felt that, you know, he should defend himself and whatever, whatever, whatever. It's 'cause they just saw Austin Metcalf as an oppressor. They're neo-Marxists, and Marxism, communism, is just another byproduct of Judaism and the Talmud. So, boom, that's how it all ties together. You're welcome, class dismissed. I love you all. Boom.↗

4:45:09@joann_marieOh my God. Good job, thank you.↗

4:45:17@joann_marieIt↗

4:45:18@nietzsche258918was a really, it was a really interesting juxtaposition between the Carmelo Anthony thing, where they're trying to look for reasons to let the guy go, and then what happened to this kid that was being basically trying to destroyed in front of the world because he said he didn't want to work for Jews. So the guy who stabbed the person in the heart, you know, gosh, surely there's some way. It was almost like the woman who came along and said, "You know, they're just programmed, it's not, you know, they're-- take away their agency, it's not their fault." And then of course, the person who goes, "Yeah, I don't wanna work for Jews." Okay, kill 'em, destroy 'em, make it so that he starves to death, you know, so the, the contrast really, of course, we can see what's behind↗

4:46:03Speaker 17White people as an oppressor, and that's why they laughed and cheered when Charlie Kirk was murdered, because they have dehumanized white people to the point to where they just see you as an oppressor, a colonizer, a white devil. They say you're on stolen land, they say you don't belong here, they say that you just need to go back to the Caucasus Mountains, that white people, that you don't like, if you don't- You spend a lot of time in FPA↗

4:46:26Speaker 13spaces, dude. You just, you↗

4:46:28Speaker 17know? No, I, I made a whole bunch I debate when you↗

4:46:31@nietzsche258918say this though about black people, I understand, but she was saying, but she was saying that about Jewish supremacists. She was saying this about them.↗

4:46:40Speaker 17Now it's all connected.↗

4:46:41@nietzsche258918And the, okay, but, okay, but, but the difference is we're talking about the symptom versus the disease, right? I mean, black people aren't winning in this exchange, they're not making out on the deal.↗

4:46:53Speaker 17They're the bio weapon killing us. What are you talking about? Right. Well,↗

4:46:56@nietzsche258918and so is every-- But that's not winning, do you understand? Like, The worst thing in the world was when Jewish supremacists were allowed to represent blacks. How has that worked out for black people? It's worked out terribly, right? When you show them, when they're allowing the worst of them to loot cities, the, and, and the young version of them to loot cities, that's not good for black people. They're living in black communities. You're saying they're-- And when they let a murderer, for instance, out, who killed other black people, when they give him grace and let him out, where do they send him? Back to the black community↗

4:47:30@nietzsche258918I said, "Well, let's get rid of the police. Where? In the white communities? No, we all got to keep our police. In the black communities. So when, when someone a black person or the black family picked up the phone to call the cops because someone was trying to rob them or kill them, no one came. Who did that? Hold on, hold on. Who did that help? Did that help the Jewish supremacists, by the way, who were also moving drugs in those neighborhoods? Yes. But did that help black people? No. So you have to, as long And the disease, fine, but for anybody to say that what's happening to Black people, what Jewish supremacists have done to them, is the same as what Jewish supremacists themselves believe, those are two different, entirely different things.↗

4:48:14Speaker 17No, the, the point of them is to eradicate us because they see us as the Romans. They're get-- trying to get revenge for us destroying their second temple. So, again Like, look at the DeCarlo, the, the-- I think some of↗

4:48:28Speaker 13them might wanna, like,↗

4:48:29Speaker 17you know,↗

4:48:30Speaker 13that's the other thing. The DeCarlo-- Do you think, do you think that, do you think that all Jews that believe in Jewish supremacy also believe in this whole like Rome idea, or do you think that maybe there's some Jews that are like, "Yeah, I enjoy the fact that go ahead and pay my interest rates. They, that's very good so that I can maintain my--↗

4:48:50@nietzsche258918That's exactly right. I can prove it to you. I can prove it Is just superstitious atheism, right? And the idea that the- No, they worship the Father. Hold on, hold on, hold on. The idea that someone who is a secular Jew, and people always make the, oh, the secular Jew versus, okay, but it's a giant club where they exist at everyone else's expense. And let's not forget, too, when we talk about Satanism, evil is just the absence of good, in the same way as darkness is just the absence of light. So, and it doesn't-- they don't have to be making little ritualistic↗

4:49:24@nietzsche258918If Epstein wasn't doing that, he couldn't be more evil than he already was. Do you see? Same with Netanyahu. If we found out that he's a complete atheist and doesn't care about any of this stuff, he couldn't be more evil than what he is, because he does and thinks evil things. He promulgates evility onto humanity. So I'm just, I'm a little tired of this differentiation, because they themselves, among themselves, don't really care if an atheist, Jewish supremacist meets a Talmudic, you know, Jewish supremacist It's very religious. They don't, they're, they do the secret handshake. They're happy as long as they live at our expense. It's the out-group psychopathy that makes them evil. It's the fact that they're tendency to undermine our civilization, to live at our expense, including the sexual assault of our children and the deracination of our principles and our morals, that's what makes them evil. So let's not take our eye off that ball.↗

4:50:18Speaker 17Okay, but you're missing the point that if they're Talmudic Jews, they literally see you as an idol worshipper, and in their Talmud it says that they can murder you, they wanna murder you. So of course they're gonna use bio weapons like DeCarlos Brown to go onto the, the bus station, stab you in the neck after using, you know, stuff like anarcho tyranny to let, a violent criminal out sixteen times. Okay, well let me ask you this, if they're↗

4:50:44@nietzsche258918not Talmudic, if, if Epstein's not T Rapes a child, is he less↗

4:50:49Speaker 17evil? Hold on, but,↗

4:50:50@nietzsche258918but if he's not, if any one of them isn't Talmudic and they rape a child, does it make them less evil?↗

4:50:56Speaker 17What are you talking about? A Jew doesn't- If they're not↗

4:50:58@nietzsche258918so, is, is Ted Bundy less evil? Can we hear Andy out, David? We know what's↗

4:51:01@joann_mariegoing on. Hold on, hold on, hold on,↗

4:51:08@joann_mariehold on, Nancy, hold on,↗

4:51:12@nietzsche258918hold on, Nancy, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yeah, so if Ted Bundy I thought that was Ted Bundy.↗

4:51:18Speaker 17Was Ted Bundy not white? Was Ted Bundy a Jew?↗

4:51:21@nietzsche258918No, but it doesn't have to do with anything.↗

4:51:24Speaker 17No, but if you're not accused, why are you, why are you trying to demonize white people? Because I'm asking you, what are you talking about? Because↗

4:51:29@nietzsche258918he was a demon, he was evil. What are you talking about? It's, it's a hypothetical, man.↗

4:51:33Speaker 17Okay,↗

4:51:34@nietzsche258918are↗

4:51:36@joann_mariewe talking↗

4:51:38@nietzsche258918about Jews? Are we talking about white people? Yes, because he didn't follow the Talmud, so this is where he's Can do whatever they want with the rest of us, if they believe, yes, as our friend was here just said a moment ago, I like living at their expense, I like being able to live without work and living at the expense of the work. If they think that and they're not Talmudic, are they any less evil? Are they?↗

4:52:06Speaker 17Are they any less evil?↗

4:52:08@nietzsche258918Yeah. If a rapist is not Talmudic and he's Jewish, and a rapist is Talmudic and he's Jewish, aren't they any less evil? Aren't they, aren't they just as evil? Isn't the rape the thing... I feel like I'm making a Norm Macdonald joke. Joe, isn't the rape... Well, actually, actually, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Actually,↗

4:52:24Speaker 17wait, wait, wait. Actually, I'm gonna blow your mind. But this isn't the hard concept, like even I, but↗

4:52:30@joann_marieI↗

4:52:31Speaker 19don't like you, I'm understanding it. This isn't the concept. No, listen, I'm↗

4:52:33Speaker 17not, listen, just let me cook, let me cook. How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast↗

4:52:39@khanverseyesterday?↗

4:52:40Speaker 17Let me cook. Let me cook. Okay, so a non-Talmudic Jew, they're both evil, rapists, they both should be, you know, but I'm not gonna finish that statement. But the Talmudic Jew sees you- This is↗

4:52:55@mindarchetypesmental gymnastics.↗

4:52:56Speaker 17How is- Wait, wait, you didn't even let me↗

4:52:58@joann_mariefinish! Wait, wait, wait, he's gonna blow your mind, Nico, hold on!↗

4:53:01@mindarchetypesYes, and- Oh, I can't wait, but I already know what he's doing. I'm already finished. He's just prevaricating around the question. The answer is↗

4:53:08Speaker 17no↗

4:53:12@mindarchetypesWe're↗

4:53:13@joann_marienot afraid, trust me, we're not afraid. Okay, go, go for it. Yes, go↗

4:53:17Speaker 17for it. Are you pregnant? Let me finish.↗

4:53:20@mindarchetypesNot afraid, you're ignorant. The answer is no. Oh, I'm not debating. There are not gradations to evil. Evil is evil. It's the absence of good. You are completely missing David's point and you have a very simple one.↗

4:53:32Speaker 17Wait, wait, wait, wait,↗

4:53:38@nietzsche258918wait, wait. Niko, Niko, show some respect, okay? She didn't. Don't you ever talk to me like that↗

4:53:42@mindarchetypesBecause you are being ignorant. Just because I am not being nice in your own view doesn't mean I'm being, not being kind. And if you want respect, you have to earn it.↗

4:53:52Speaker 17Actually, there is different degrees of evil, because if you would let me finish- No, evil is↗

4:53:57@mindarchetypesevil. There aren't gradations to it. It's like David explained it very simply in very simple terms. It's just the absence of good.↗

4:54:06Speaker 17So, are you not gonna let me finish? So, you're such a good debater, you're not gonna let me finish myself? Well, you're still, you're still↗

4:54:18Ian Malcolmpretty much like a little bit of a point of view. I feel like we're all in a war. No, no, no, let's just let him down the street. It's very strange, man. I↗

4:54:28Speaker 17don't understand your like, somebody fights me. Come on, put on blood, I don't↗

4:54:35Ian Malcolmthink anybody will disagree with you on that.↗

4:54:36Speaker 17Okay, so that's the baseline, but now you have the Talmudic Jew who also believes your cattle, and they can do whatever they want to you, poison you, lie to you, steal from you, tax you. I think that's more evil. So not only are they gonna rape you, not only are they going to lie to you and poison you and do all these things, they also have more evil intentions than the secular Jew. So I would argue that the Talmudic Jew would be more evil.↗

4:55:05@nietzsche258918Okay. So let's, let's take the ball right there. So do you↗

4:55:07Speaker 17understand the baseline? Understand? Not on. Rape is bad, correct?↗

4:55:10@nietzsche258918My God, let me just respond to that. Right. So we have two groups of people. Let's say in Israel. Let's use people that are in Israel. Okay.↗

4:55:20Speaker 17No, no, no. No, hold on. No, no, no, no,↗

4:55:23@nietzsche258918no, hold on. I'm responding, hold on. And one of them is atheist and one of them isn't, one of them isn't atheist, okay? And they both↗

4:55:34@nietzsche258918Creating the Wealth of America. They both believe in outgroup psychopathy, which clearly they do, by the way. Clearly, I'm describing two groups of people that have existed throughout history within the Jewish community, and this is why they've gotten thrown out of a hundred and nine countries over a thousand times, and they, between the two of them, don't give a crap. You know who was friends with Moses Hesse? Karl Marx. Did you know those two guys were buddies? One of them was virulently Talmudic, and one of them was virulently athe- atheist. And I'll leave it to you, which one did the most damage? You know what they did? They shook hands on how to do the things they did. And what did they found together? Zionism. So, dude, this is absolutely-- And let me just say this very clearly to you, don't interrupt me. A distinction without a difference. Once you get to rock bottom, psychopathic evil, there's not another level. So you say there's different levels? There is no level. They're like, it's us against them. It is a parasitic relationship. So you're saying two mosquitoes are sucking the blood from the dog, but one of them is Talmudic and the other one isn't. Neither of them cares about what the standpoint of the other one is. They just want more blood How can you not see this? This is the most, this obvious thing. And that is what a↗

4:56:52@joann_mariekookout looks like. Okay, what can I respond? Amazing, David. Okay.↗

4:56:56Speaker 17Okay. So again, I would argue that a Talmudic Jew can already lie to you, so how would you know that they're truly secular? 'Cause a Talmudic Jew could lie to you and say, "Oh, Oy vey, I'm secular, I don't believe in nothings. The Talmud↗

4:57:11@mindarchetypesdoesn't believe in nothings."↗

4:57:16Speaker 17You're not addressing↗

4:57:18@mindarchetypesthe point or You're not addressing anything.↗

4:57:20Speaker 19No, I don't want to finish my point. No, it is funny. You're not↗

4:57:22@mindarchetypesmaking a point. Well, you don't want to make a point. You're prevaricating around something, trying to do something that sounds like logic, but isn't sound logic.↗

4:57:30Speaker 17Silence, a white man is talking. Silence,↗

4:57:33@mindarchetypesa white man is talking. Silence. Silence. A white man is talking. Silence. Oh, well, back at you. Silence, a white man is talking. He is also silent. Do you↗

4:57:44Speaker 13have any idea how incredibly stupid that is what↗

4:57:49Speaker 19And, and, and just, just so you, just so you know, Colin is also white.↗

4:57:53@joann_marieYeah, we gotta redo↗

4:57:54Speaker 13the, I don't know, we gotta like redo the propaganda and the backend for some of these guys that are like, "Well, I mean, they're chimping out,↗

4:58:00Speaker 17they don't know how to debate, they're chimping out."↗

4:58:03Speaker 15I don't know how to↗

4:58:03Speaker 17debate, Nick. Chimping out or what? You make↗

4:58:06Speaker 15yourself look really, really, really, really,↗

4:58:09Speaker 17really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, Dude,↗

4:58:19@mindarchetypesyou're an idiot.↗

4:58:20Speaker 17Then debate me if I'm such an idiot. Why would I waste my resources or time? I've already seen your lack of ability↗

4:58:27@mindarchetypesto, like, go into cognitive thinking. Okay,↗

4:58:29@joann_mariewe're, we're just gonna move on this, this little, I'm gonna go in. Yes, I, I, I'm done↗

4:58:33@nietzsche258918matching which were the unarmed here, so I think we should just go to the hands.↗

4:58:38@joann_marieAmazing. Okay.↗

4:58:41@joann_mariethe force. Go for it.↗

4:58:47@joann_marieThe force? Alright, the force isn't there. Panna Giote. I don't know, go for it.↗

4:58:54Speaker 12Oh, yes, yeah, it's okay, don't worry about the pronunciation. I got a, a message back from, oh, what is the,↗

4:58:59@nietzsche258918what is the pronunciation? Pannagioti. It's- It's- Pannagioti. Pannagioti. Yeah. I like the way you say it, so I'm glad↗

4:59:07Speaker 12you told me. It's, it's, it's based on, the Blessed Mary. I'm Saint. My parents were, yes.↗

4:59:18@nietzsche258918Oh, that's very cool, my friend. Do you live in Greece? Don't give me too much information if you don't want to, but... No, no, no,↗

4:59:23Speaker 12I'm, I'm, I can tell where I am. I'm back in New Jersey. my, my parents were from, from Greece. I've, I've traveled to Europe, you know, m-many years since I was a baby. You know, I'd be going to Europe back and forth.↗

4:59:36@nietzsche258918But, yeah. Well,↗

4:59:44Speaker 12I'm Austin Franco, reached out, I sent a message to him, and, I was listening to the space before with, Mary, what was her name? She did the book.↗

4:59:58@joann_marieFagan.↗

4:59:59Speaker 12Fagan, yes, Mary Fagan. And, she mentioned there was some kind of, a law group being formed, I think, I believe she said in California.↗

5:00:11Speaker 12Remember, she stated that she had, gotten in touch with some kind of group to, to start representing people, you know, in, in certain cases like she had, and, with this Jewish supremacy groups that are attacking people.↗

5:00:30Speaker 12so this kid, he reached out to me. I told him, you know, you should come to these spaces, if you don't mind, if I, if I give him You know, give him some links to, to your spaces, if, if, or maybe he'd like to speak in one of the spaces. You know who I'm talking about, the kid that, said I don't wanna work for Jews?↗

5:00:49@nietzsche258918Well, we had scheduled him to be, or Ian did, in, in Joanne, and scheduled him to be in this space, and he, he demurred at the last moment. He was going to come, and I think he's concerned about whether, you know, where, whether he should kind of keep quiet to make sure he can get into Cornell this upcoming semester, so, you know,↗

5:01:10Speaker 12well, his problem right now is he, he, this, this kid's not gonna get a lawyer that easily, you know? And, and that's why I went through what, what the discussion we had before. You know, I mean, this is the problem. I mean, when we get attacked, when our, our, our rights are violated by this, supremacist group, we have no help at all. And like the other speaker, he didn't, he just doesn't want to understand. Yeah, with blacks, the, the Jews are there. They're there to, supposedly help them when they're not. They're just manipulating them, and they're like, "Oh, yeah, we So, you know, he's wrong, and, and David, you, you're correct. I mean, he just doesn't get it.↗

5:01:52Speaker 12it's, it's not about the Talmud or anything else, it's about this supremacy and, and how much of a network they have and how organized they, they are, and we're not. So that's why, when she mentioned- What↗

5:02:03Speaker 17do you think the supremacy comes from?↗

5:02:06Speaker 12Where does it come from? It could come from, it could come from anywhere. Look, look, look, look, look. It comes from this guy. Can I, can I, look, look, look, can I speak? Just, it could come from anywhere as long as you know that you're benefiting from it. They, they don't have to be very religious Jews. I've witnessed it, I've went through this, I've went through what this kid is going, Austin, Frank, I've been through. Yeah, I've been through. Let me stop, let me stop you right there, though.↗

5:02:32@nietzsche258918No, let me stop you right there, my friend. Hold on one second. I wanna go back to this though with the kid and maybe other people can respond to this as well. I'm not so sure, like, I do believe that legal remedy for going, for the government, because the I mean, that's scary as hell, right? Yes. So that's First Amendment stuff and everything else. However, I mean, I'd really like to think that on the, on the down low, an-employers might, other people might be like, you know, I'd like to have you work for us. So I, I think the answer could be, I mean, I hoping, I'm hoping as the Great Awakening goes along, there are people who are supportive of someone who says, "Yeah, I don't, I don't really, you know, I want free association,↗

5:03:20@nietzsche258918That it's not entirely like a legal remedy for me, but I'm not sure, maybe I'm wrong about that, you know?↗

5:03:26Speaker 20Let me jump in real here, real quick over here, because I've been dealing with these devils in my personal life for two years plus, legally speaking, and I had to become pro se a little bit. I don't wanna give the details away because then they're just gonna add more resources, and I think they're trying to limit the resources they're using, not to draw attention, because clearly they can't help themselves as we see in this case with↗

5:03:50Speaker 20At least he's twenty-one. I think, boys or girls, twenty-one and under, I think they should be treated kind of like women are, should be treated in society, kind of protected and kept from themselves. And so if he wants to stay quiet for a little bit and kind of, demur over, you know, a space, I think that's totally normal and fine right now, because he does have to, you know, really recalibrate given that he probably didn't expect all of this, from the Jews, and, you know, obviously he did Are fighting this battle because it is important for more and more this, of this type of action to occur, their reaction, and then of course, all the other stuff. But as far as the legal system being bent, like, you know, he mentioned, well, if you're black, well, yeah, if you're black and you are willing to do everything that you tells you to blame whity, because now you're seeing a handful of these, white on black, black on white cases kind of going, and obviously there is a lot of reality to it, there's a lot That Sikh guy that killed the white dude in, the UK, et cetera, et cetera. But, and, and I, and I appreciate everybody who pays attention to this and gets the details and, you know, puts the analysis out there. But we should always keep the larger picture in mind. And I thought that's where this last guy was going before he went off the deep end. couldn't even deal with the Ted Bundy analogy. I thought that was brilliant, very simple and easy to understand. I don't know what was his problem.↗

5:05:19Speaker 17he Nobody around me, you started, you tried to flex like you were the only↗

5:05:23Speaker 20white man in the room when almost everybody wasn't white.↗

5:05:25Speaker 17If I'm so stupid, debate me. Okay, all right. You↗

5:05:27Speaker 20were debated and defeated, it was very obvious for me, the brown guy on the sideline. Debate me,↗

5:05:31Speaker 17debate me. Okay, well,↗

5:05:32Speaker 20man, I think this is a troll. I think we should probably take his mic↗

5:05:34Speaker 17away.↗

5:05:40Speaker 20Oh, I'm a troll? Okay, then debate me. Prove I'm a troll. Dude, it's not about debating. It's not about, you I don't want everybody↗

5:05:51@nietzsche258918to talk about me, so yeah. So this, we're gonna- If you, if you, if you interrupt him again, I'm sorry, but we're gonna have to, if it's okay with you, Ian, I'm gonna drop him down the listener if he interrupts him again.↗

5:06:00Speaker 20All right, so listen, so as far as this whole legal thing, I think, it is, it is imperative. First of all, the legal system, at least the way I've experienced it in America and, you know, the way I've studied it, is basically win the day before anything can happen, unfortunately. And so, and, and obviously people can be bought out, power can be bought out. And so when it comes to finding the right lawyer, the legal system itself has this malaise of, a Talmudic degeneracy, a Talmudic stench, and because of that The legal field is infected, right? It's kind of like finance, you know, all these people, like, you might have a, a Muslim scholar get into finance, and all of a sudden he's got this whole like, you know, upside-down argument about why, like, usury the way it's done now is totally fine and how Islamic banking is a real thing and it's really not because it can't be under a usurious system. And so similarly, the legal system, however, there are gems to be found, and I wanna give you two, a few examples. First and foremost↗

5:07:08Speaker 20Purpose, Marcus Garvey, and that was Jews finding a way, quote, unquote, legally speaking, to get him out because he was basically doing for self, helping black folks do for self. I think he was, probably close to a billionaire, and if you like, you know, adjusted for inflation in terms of that time and era, and they couldn't have that in America because if you had whites doing for self and blacks doing for self side by side with distance but respect, and that's what he sought you would have a problem. So in that scenario, then you look at Toni Martin. Toni Martin was another black revolutionary who just so happened to stumble upon information about the, slave trade and the, you know, its roots, amongst, Sephardic, Talmudic Jewry. And, you know, they, they really wanted to destroy him over that because he drew attention to it, and then he just became bolder and bolder, and they took his entire voice away. He couldn't even write in the student newspaper for the school, I think Couldn't even write him there, so he had to publish his own thing, everything, self-publish, and then he had a mysterious death very shortly thereafter, which I thought was very strange. But anyway, these types of individuals have suffered in the legal system. However, there are individuals, like I currently have a Lebanese Shia lawyer, and, it was hard to find. I had another Muslim lawyer who was, you know, liberal and unfortunately sold me out to the Jews, and so that delayed and prolonged my case and cost me an extra, probably, I would say, a↗

5:08:37Speaker 20hundred and twenty thing that you have, 'cause I, you know, the, the system itself is fucked up, but my current lawyer is now finally taking steps, and, you know, I'm, I'm basically a fucking lawyer myself at this point, and I was already articulate, so I've been giving her all the right information to help her along, but I had to give her the courage also, because that's the thing that's missing. You see with this nineteen-year-old kid, when he sees more people helping him, right? Then the legal stuff becomes easier, because even the lawyer is thinking, okay,↗

5:09:08Speaker 20Happens to me in the legal field, how am I considered amongst my peers, right? And they build these things on fraternities, and this is what I say is so Jewish, it's not just Jewish in the sense of how it operates, it's also Jewish in the nepotism and the networking and all of that stuff. So it's almost like this in-group, you know, it's kind of what they do with the Masons, 'cause there's, you know, low-level Masons that think they're, they're hotshots 'cause they made it to↗

5:09:33Speaker 20the third degree Right? Lawyers taking care of judges and vice versa, et cetera, et cetera, 'cause, you know, they're all in these little clubs. So what I would say, and this is very important, whenever any of you guys get into this kind of issue, because what I'm dealing with is a technically, I guess you could say, a free speech issue. this is the, the last battleground. America is the last battleground, the entire planet is cucked. So I know America's cucked, especially under Trump and all of that, but if you really look at↗

5:10:08Speaker 20Talking about Jews and them being a problem and all this stuff. And so that's why whatever support you guys can give to this young man would be very helpful, guidance especially, but also vocal support wherever he's doing, whatever, whatever is, but I don't know if he's got a gift sang or whatever it is, continue to support, pour on that support, especially vocally, 'cause once people see that, more people come out. A lot of people feel the same way we feel, but their, their lives are so intertwined with all these Jewish systems, and that's why the Jews↗

5:10:38Speaker 20That they've got all these different systems under their control, and they're like, "Oh, you're, you're the goy that stepped out of line, we're gonna punish you." But if all the goy's deliberately step out of line, in, in response, now they've got a bigger problem, and now they're like, "Oh, shit, we need another bigger nine eleven to, to put these goy's in line." So just on that note, as far as the legal system, I would try to find someone of your similar faith persuasion, I know, and↗

5:11:03Speaker 20with all Because, you know, they got too many cases. My lawyer has like thirty, se- like forty different cases, and the, you know, the opposition keeps filing motions and motions to keep her, you know, occupied, and so I have to keep jumping in and, you know, becoming a lawyer and basically writing out motions myself. But a lot of this stuff can be done by AI, especially if you find competent AI, you know, how to prompt it. but it is, it is a fucking hell until we fucking win. And one, so, you know, we're↗

5:11:35Speaker 20in↗

5:11:38Speaker 20Overthrowing Jewish supremacy. But I just wanted to give you guys these nuggets because, you know, again, they keep trying to distract us with these multi-multiple division lines and, you know, I think everybody should come to a rescue and then also be, be principled, right? I think that was an important point that David was just making about being principled, regardless of, you know, religious persuasion or so-called beliefs. It's just like evil is fucking evil, doesn't matter who does it, and it should be called out as such.↗

5:12:06@joann_marieThat was beautiful, Kana. I loved absolutely everything. And yeah, we tried to talk to, to Austin yesterday, but, he couldn't come. And I respect that, I'm, I'm okay with it, I'm still gonna support him. And, yeah, thank you, thank you so much for that. And hopefully everything that is happening to you also gets fixed. It's been so long. It's, I like, I'm so sorry it's happening to you, brother. So thank you. And please stick around. Alright, official,↗

5:12:36@joann_mariego for it.↗

5:12:37@khanverseHey Joanne, what up, what up, Ian, Malcolm, David, Toot Teller, Colin, my nigga, Game of Thrones, Converse, Assalamualaikum brother, good to see you, Converse is a legend, everyone please follow Converse man if you haven't already. But I, I followed him↗

5:12:52@joann_marieand I, I was pending for like ages, like, ages, and I was like, "Okay, I'm, I'm just gonna..." I'm sorry, but they don't accept... I've been to a couple of↗

5:12:59Speaker 20accounts, they don't allow me to see it. You know, when Hassan Shibly added me, e-every time they would add me, it would disappear, and I would have to like go hunt for it. So then I, I un- I un-uh, protected my account, and the reason my account is protected↗

5:13:21@khanverseYeah, I just wanted to go over some stuff, you know, when it comes to, to Jewish traditions, not Talmudic traditions, Jewish traditions, just to kind of make it clear, to kind of reiterate the point that it's, you know, you can't really compare the two, but between Talmud and Jews, I mean, they kind of fall under the same, you know, circular cycle of, of evil and degeneracy and Satanism. So it's, it's, it's a Jewish tradition to spit on Christians, not,↗

5:13:47@khanversenot 'cause they feel like they'll, they'll, they'll get cursed if they walk on the same street of a church. That's not Talmudic tradition, that's Jewish tradition. It's, it's, it's a Jewish, you know, belief that, that the Messiah that we believe in, that the, the things that they say about him, that he's burning in hell in a vat of pig excrement and semen, that's, that's, that's Jewish, that's not Talmudic, right? They called Mother Mary a whore, said she committed adultery↗

5:14:20@khanverseThey, they believe it's good luck when you spit on Christians, you know? It was even a Jew who told me this. They said it's ancient super-superstition in Judaism that they'll get good luck if they spit on Christians. That's not Talmudic, that's Jewish. you know, the, they believe the age of consent is three, right? Because the hymen will grow back. All right? Me and Goyfather debated two rabbis about this, like maybe two years ago. FBI came to my house the day after, asked me if↗

5:14:50@khanverseNo, it's just, you know, Ju-Jewish traditions are, are very satanic in nature. You don't necessarily have to point out the Talmudic, yeah, evils in it. It's just, you know, that was, that's kind of simple as what I wanted to ca-ca-um, get out there. But I had, didn't come up originally for, for Debbie, who was, who made this, this amazing quote that RT and Russia Today and Russian propaganda is the reason why Jews are committing genocide in Palestine. And I was And I believe it, you know? I'm like, "Wow, " you know? So that's, that's like, you know, and then there's actually, this, I kinda do see this some, some days in, in, in Americans where they just try to put out, put all the blame on Russia, Russia, Russia, this, Russia propaganda. It's like, "Well, when, when are you gonna fricking wake up and smell the kosher coffee, bro? " You know? So, Yeah, man, that's about it. I don't wanna say too much. Thank you Ian for hosting the space, a shout out to everyone in here, and, and yeah, yeah, oh man, the ADL origin, I mean, I've, I just finished a 19-hour shift, like, yesterday, but I'm three hours later, I'm back here at work right now, so I didn't really have a chance to hear everything, I had to get some rest, but- I mean, I sent Ian a, a video a couple days ago. I don't know if he ever got, to check it out, but, man, the, the America in the '40s and the '50s, bro, was a freaking place to be, man. I mean, it was just, wow, bro. If, if that American spirit could get, you know, rekindled that we had in the '40s and the '50s, bro? I mean, bro, we, we'll save this country, we'll probably save the world, honestly. Yeah, this is just, from, from where I was looking at it, man, from the, from people like George Lincoln Rockwell, you know, and, people who tried to, you know, reach across the aisle with, to build alliances to tackle the, the JP back then, you know, it was like, it was, you had literally people running for elected office, you know, who had, who had views like us, you know, like↗

5:16:43@khanverseso, you know, so They made every, they used every resource at their disposal and then some to make sure that, that the noticing would never, ever take place in America again. And I think that's gonna backfire on them tremendously when, when Americans realize, like, yo, just seventy years ago, like, you know, like these people like trying to, you know, trying to bring Amer- like turn America into National Socialist America, you know, and, and the Jews were like just, they just, they did everything to destroy it, you know, everything in their power To destroy it from, from the same methods they employed then to destroy it are the same methods they're using today, you know, with, in the ADL and there's all these, these groups and organizations, they're using the same methods from the forties and fifties, they're using the same ones today to stop, you know, the noticing, and, and it's not gonna work, it's not gonna work, it's, it's gonna backfire, man, and then America will for sure become a hundred and ten, God willing. Thank you.↗

5:17:44@khanverseI↗

5:17:44Ian Malcolmlove↗

5:17:44@khanverseyou,↗

5:17:49Ian MalcolmAnd, and for what it's worth, it, it's, it's so wild that, that idea of the double standard, I, I, I just saw a post, that was shared by Gen X Girl. She actually sent, sent it to me directly, which I, I always love when she does, because any, anytime that takes place, I know it's gonna be something good. and this one from Y News, ynetnews.com. it's got an, an article that was written including Bill Ackman, listed as one of more than tw- two hundred and fifty managers and executives from the financial sector of the United States who signed a statement pledging not to employ supporters of hate who participate in anti-Zionist activities in campuses or in streets. That was in twenty twenty-three. So the very thing that we just saw happen to Austin Franco, they've been actively not only participating in and advocating for, but they've even been publicizing that they've been doing the very thing that we would accuse them of doing, while of course suggesting that they have no power, woe is me, and they need to criminalize the act of suggesting that they have too much power. It's just unbelievable, Joanne, I just wanted to call that one out for, Gen X girl who's so wonderful.↗

5:19:12@joann_marieI, I am sorry,↗

5:19:13@khanversego ahead. Sorry, one last thing to add on to what he just said, right? The, the World Jewish Congress is the largest, non-gr, largest, largest organization in the world that promotes Jewish interest in over 150 countries. According to the World Jewish Congress, they give out the definitions and the, and the language for, for, hey, welcome back. You need to check in?↗

5:19:37@khanverseOh, he↗

5:19:38@joann_mariewent↗

5:19:38@khanverseback and forth. Dre is↗

5:19:39Ian Malcolmmultitasking.↗

5:19:39@khanverseOkay.↗

5:19:40Ian MalcolmI'm↗

5:19:40@khanversehere, I'm here, I'm back. Okay. Okay. I'm, I'm back, I'm back. So, the World Jewish Congress, according to them, right, anti-Zionism is another form of- Wait, wait, hang on,↗

5:19:49Ian MalcolmDre, I've just gotta ask, were you like, hang on, give me a second.↗

5:19:52@khanverseLet me↗

5:19:53Ian Malcolmjust jump back in here.↗

5:19:57Ian MalcolmI love it, my man. He's like, "Here's your key." She↗

5:20:00@khanversedidn't, she didn't need any help, she's good, she's already a guest staying here. So just waving her off, he's like,↗

5:20:05Speaker 20"Alright,↗

5:20:05@khanverseguys, now back↗

5:20:06Speaker 20to the first scientist."↗

5:20:07@khanverseWow.↗

5:20:08Speaker 20No, you know what's gonna happen? The Jew manager's gonna walk in, he's gonna be like, "I'm sorry, I can't work for a Jew," he's gonna quit on the spot.↗

5:20:14@khanverseYeah, I don't, I don't think, I don't think my, I don't think the, the management company of this whole, I don't think they're Jewish. I haven't, I looked into it, I've been researching, I haven't found any Jews, so, that's a good part. But yeah, so anti-Zionism, see↗

5:20:30@khanverseSince back, since way back when, right? They've, they've already considered anti-Zionism as another form of antisemitism, and you still have people on here saying, "Oh, it's the Zionists, it's the Zionists, we are anti-Zionists, we're not antisemitic." Well, listen, honey, sugar, okay? If you are anti-Zionist, you are also antisemitic, according to the World Jewish Congress, because you, you believe and push all the blood libels, antisemitic tropes, and you don't believe the Jews So welcome to the club, you anti-Zionist, you are also a Jew hater, according to the World Jewish Congress. So, you know, take it how you want it. Isn't it nice↗

5:21:08@nietzsche258918to be able to legislate words? You know, this means this now. I think it's-- I mean, the arrogance of these people is just off the charts.↗

5:21:22@joann_marieIt's absolutely wild, and thank you so much, official. David, I think,↗

5:21:25Ian MalcolmI think what we should do is we should just have the politicians legislate that poverty equals wealth, and then everybody is rich. I, I mean, I think that's how it works, right? Right. Yes. Invert the meaning of every word.↗

5:21:40@joann_marieThat, that is amazing. Alright, the force, are you back? He's, he's been super quiet lately. Oh, he dropped. Okay. William is here. Hey, William, thank you so much for coming up. How are you?↗

5:21:55Speaker 18I'm doing alright. Busy, busy, busy, working, working, working. Hopefully you guys are as well. yeah, what are we, what are we talking about? Sorry, I just joined. I shouldn't, I should have listened a little bit before I,↗

5:22:09@joann_marieWell, we had a great space with Mary Fagan and Phil Turner was here for, for a minute, then he had to, leave. But yeah, Mary Fagan explained about how the entire thing with Little Mary Fagan and also how the idea was created, and it was, it was really cool. So listen to the recording, it was awesome.↗

5:22:31Speaker 20You know what's so sad about this? Mary Fagan and I, we met in, December of '25, and we, you know, had her all day. Man, what a beautiful woman. Very strong, and she hasn't let, their hatred consume her at all. Like she's a very, very noble and spiritual woman, and, we did, I think, we did two podcasts with her, I think, and I still haven't been able to release them. The guy who was supposed to edit them, never, he fell through unfortunately Some of you guys know him, I'm not gonna throw him under the bus here, but, yeah, man, it's been brutal, but so much amazing content coming from her. Her book is amazing, so if you haven't picked it up, pick it up and follow her as well. Beautiful woman. God bless her for what she did.↗

5:23:15@joann_marieyeah, she's so inspiring and her vibe is just absolutely beautiful. And, yeah. Thank you so much, Gun, and I hope you get your documentary soon. Give it to someone else so that they edit it. Alright, Miro, are you here to talk about Poland?↗

5:23:34Speaker 21Yeah, yes, yes. Yes, of course, you're always↗

5:23:36@joann_mariehere to talk about Poland, I know.↗

5:23:39Speaker 21Quick, quick. Two days ago there was 80th anniversary of, Fierz's transport to Auschwitz, about one thousand young Poles, you know, boys. How, how, basically Auschwitz was started two days ago. Guys, the, the, the world of trust is in, in Auschwitz, that's all Jewish people Polish MPs, Polish MPs with, with the flowers, with water to go to Auschwitz to pay tribute for, for die, for, for, for, for those guys, Polish guys, fierce transport, weren't allowed to go in Auschwitz Museum. Can you imagine? Can you imagine what's going on?↗

5:24:21Speaker 13no, not at all. Must be early in Poland right now, dude. It's, you're already got a lot of energy.↗

5:24:27Speaker 21Oh yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's quite dearly, you know, six,↗

5:24:32Speaker 6it's good, it's good. Six twenty-nine bucks. Are you still going to, are you still going to Auschwitz every week?↗

5:24:37@nietzsche258918Yeah, I forgot, truth. This isn't the one that does the field trips, actually.↗

5:24:41Speaker 6It's the guy that moved closer to where Auschwitz is,↗

5:24:45@nietzsche258918so he can take you there more↗

5:24:48Speaker 6often. Yeah. Yeah, see, if I could think of↗

5:24:49@nietzsche258918all the places I would- Totally normal. If I could think of all the places I would wanna↗

5:24:57@joann_marieDid you really moved closer to the truth, truth, Terrell?↗

5:25:01Speaker 21So you, you, you're laughing, but have you even been in Europe? You are expert in that topic, but I'm just wondering, have you been in Europe or close to Auschwitz?↗

5:25:11Speaker 19I have not been there, but I'll debate you about it. Let's go, let's debate this. I have been to Europe many times. Come here, let's debate this. Come here. You want to debate me? That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,↗

5:25:23Speaker 9that↗

5:25:25Speaker 21Yeah, so basically my point, guys, can you imagine that London Museum isn't allowed to British MP go inside to pay tribute for something? That's fucking crazy. H-how those people are arrogants. Because, because you- Wait, who's arrogant? People are- People are- Hold on, time out. Who's arrogant? A board of trustees in Auschwitz, Auschwitz as a Polish, po-Polish museum, a director and board of trustees, all Jewish people.↗

5:25:57@joann_marieSo, I'm so, I'm so lost. I'm so lost.↗

5:26:00@nietzsche258918Yeah, so let me, let me see if I can boil this down. Jews preside over Ashwits, which of course, I mean, why wouldn't they? It's, it's their little milk cow. And they're arrogant. I'm, I'm jotting these things down now. I, I don't, I'm not as surprised I think as you. I think, in fact, you seem like you're the only one that's surprised about this.↗

5:26:26Speaker 21No, no, no, no, I'm not surprised this, but I'm surprised, but- Nowadays, everyone have camera because, because in the past, that was normal, you know. So basically, each trip to Auschwitz was guarded by Mossad. So the, the Poles weren't allowed to be-- There's no allowed to, to take Polish flag to Auschwitz, like twenty years ago, where there's no camera, it changed. It changed recently. Wouldn't it surprise you to know that↗

5:26:55Speaker 18all FBI agents have to go to Auschwitz as part of their training? That is↗

5:26:59Speaker 13true. They were once gonna move Quantico to Auschwitz. But they decided that there wasn't enough room there, and the pool wasn't big enough, so they opted not to.↗

5:27:07@joann_marieBut I started believing it, and I was like, "Seriously? I can't believe it. You, you need to, no."↗

5:27:14@nietzsche258918Miro, Miro, Miro, how many, anyone, anyone, anyone, anyone, you say, let, let me- Hold on, Miro, I have a question for you. Yes, my God, Miro, I want to ask you a question. How many times have you been to Auschwitz?↗

5:27:32@nietzsche258918Probably double mute. So, Miro, is he on?↗

5:27:35@joann_marieNo, he's still there, maybe↗

5:27:36Speaker 22he's still talking. I have been there probably about a couple twenty times. Miro, how many times↗

5:27:41@nietzsche258918you been to Auschwitz?↗

5:27:42Speaker 22So, you know, a couple time, twenty-five time. No, sorry. I'm not Miro though. I know, I'm just messing around.↗

5:27:49@nietzsche258918Miro, how many times you been to Auschwitz? Miro?↗

5:27:53Speaker 21Five times, five times.↗

5:27:55@nietzsche258918Have you ever taken a day?↗

5:27:58Speaker 6Five times this year? No, no, no, no, no, five times. No, the truth is, it's a good idea.↗

5:28:03@nietzsche258918I mean, it's a pincer,↗

5:28:05Ian Malcolmhe really likes this point, right there.↗

5:28:07Speaker 6Now you're lying.↗

5:28:08Ian MalcolmCollins taking dating advice over here.↗

5:28:11Speaker 6What about the other concentration camps, like Birkenau? How many times were you there? Or Chelmno?↗

5:28:16@nietzsche258918She's like, I thought we were going to the movies. So, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,↗

5:28:23Speaker 21so, Why? Because, because my grandparents was killed in Auschwitz. Actually, it's not Auschwitz, that was Monowitz, Nekes, Nekes. So, so basically, I was interesting that, that I, I'm interested that topic and it's interesting not only what happens during the war and after, because in Poland that was communism, you was, you weren't allowed to speak about that topic, you know? During communism, but now,↗

5:28:54Speaker 21we, we've got like Big like village, you know, e-everyone can speak with a-anyone, and it's still the same. So my question is, why would board of trustees in Auschwitz didn't allow Polish MP to go to pay tribute? In my opinion, okay,↗

5:29:11@nietzsche258918in my opinion So Miro, you're saying that-↗

5:29:16Speaker 6You're saying↗

5:29:17@nietzsche258918that so truth teller, I'm-↗

5:29:18Speaker 6You're not that smart. No, no, no, no, no,↗

5:29:20@nietzsche258918guys, that's propaganda. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Give me one second. I got a question for truth teller. So truth teller, there's a giant mystery here. So communism, under communism, you couldn't talk about the communists, and now with these Jews and Nazis, you can't talk about them. So I'm trying to think what the common denominator here is, and I, I On history than I do. So what could it possibly be where there's two groups of people entirely different that you can't talk about?↗

5:29:53@nietzsche258918Ye- yes, so bas- basically, you don't need↗

5:29:54Speaker 6to also want to conceal certain facts about history or perhaps fabricate certain things in history that perhaps didn't happen, but then when people start getting suspicious, they're not allowed to come by anymore, such as, say, my noticing, "How come this chimney isn't connected to this?" Whatever this, entity is that they call a concentrate, the labor camp, let's so to speak. why does it look so brand spanking new despite a war that took place where it was bombed?↗

5:30:20Speaker 23Why does it have swimming pool? And see how that works.↗

5:30:22Speaker 6Mir, are you also still going for the free buffet at Auschwitz? Is that why you got banned? Why does it have swimming pool? He's not, he's not talking about that. He's↗

5:30:30Speaker 12not talking↗

5:30:31Speaker 6about that.↗

5:30:35Speaker 12He's not talking about that. He's not talking about that right now. Did you get busted? He That have been killed in World War II, and every-- and they act like they haven't been, except for the Jews. That's what Miro is trying to explain, that they have hijacked everything. The Jewish supremacists have hijacked, yes, exactly, and died in World War II.↗

5:30:58Speaker 21And even more, guys, that Auschwitz was designed for poles. The first transport was one thousand young boys. Yes. Yes.↗

5:31:14Speaker 21I, I, to free↗

5:31:14@joann_marietwo↗

5:31:14Speaker 21countries. It↗

5:31:16Speaker 13didn't help↗

5:31:17Speaker 21things,↗

5:31:17Speaker 13yes. Miro.↗

5:31:20@joann_marieOkay, Miro, your rubberbanding really bad.↗

5:31:22Ian MalcolmDriving. So it's funny the, the way in which it's manifesting itself. Now he's back.↗

5:31:29Speaker 23Can somebody explain the swimming pool at the house with? That is propaganda. I, I, I↗

5:31:36Speaker 21will explain you. I will explain you quickly. If anyone saying,↗

5:31:40Speaker 6"Jim, come on, guys,↗

5:31:44Speaker 21that was one hundred twenty thousand people in Czech, in Car, with Birkenau, there was wooden barracks, there was wooden barracks, there's Germany, need to think about, you know, in, in the case of fire, that there was a water..." To challenge any fire. Do you understand? There's no swimming pool that is fucking stupid, you know? What? One hundred and seventy thousand people↗

5:32:10Speaker 23in a huge city. I thought↗

5:32:11Speaker 13you went there six million times, bro.↗

5:32:13Speaker 23They had diving board. What are you talking about? They had diving board. I, I hop in there. What do you mean they had no swimming pool? Why you lie to me? Do you understand how it is?↗

5:32:24Speaker 12Who's the clown that said that? Baxi, let me, let me talk to the clown. Listen, clown, let me tell you. Because of what a lot of Europeans did during World War II, hey, I'm↗

5:32:34Speaker 23walking↗

5:32:34Speaker 12here. The Jew, the Jew, the Jew, the Jew, can I talk back? A Jew can't say shit to me, because I could go back to my grandfather's history, okay? And they could call me anti-Semitic all they want, and it's, you know, they, they just can't, they, they won't win, because if it wasn't for my grandfather, they would be so-↗

5:32:55Speaker 12Okay, so at least respect Muro. I mean, they weren't↗

5:32:58@joann_mariereally trying to turn them↗

5:33:00Speaker 12into something. It could have been on the roller coaster or↗

5:33:02Speaker 13you don't, I mean, or a lampshade.↗

5:33:04@joann_marieIt could be a, yeah, a↗

5:33:05Speaker 12lampshade. See, see what that is. That, that's, that's Jewish, that's Jewish slop you're repeating. That's what the Jews want. What you're repeating is exactly what the Jew wants. What the lampshade or the roller coaster, which, both. Not, not the roller coaster. What, what they want All these atrocities, that these atrocities were just against Jews, which is false. My uncle's village in Greece, they killed every, every, every male, they killed↗

5:33:35@joann_marieevery↗

5:33:36Speaker 12male. They killed every male. We're not talking Jews, we're talking Greeks. Every male they killed in the village, every single male. Yes,↗

5:33:44Speaker 13World War II was bad. Yes, that's, that's, that's- Okay,↗

5:33:47Speaker 12that's right. So when Jews- Okay, that's what he's trying to say. Okay, that's what he's trying to say. And that's what he's trying to say, that all the Jews do is try to say, "Oh, we wouldn't have made them↗

5:33:59Speaker 13say there's no swimming pool." No pool. And listen, I don't know, I'm suspicious.↗

5:34:06Speaker 21For, for, for, can you imagine, truth teller, if there was fire in Auschwitz, what? Why do you think there was a fire? You're not explaining. You're not explaining. You're not explaining.↗

5:34:20Speaker 12What do you↗

5:34:20Speaker 6mean?↗

5:34:21Speaker 12You know, I wanna get one thing straight. Are there people saying that in some of these camps, that nobody, that nobody, that nobody was killed in these camps? No Europeans were killed in these camps. Can↗

5:34:31Speaker 22you↗

5:34:31Speaker 23just say that? Hey, can you just say I'm walking here? I'm walking↗

5:34:38Speaker 21Guys, quick, quickly, because I'm, I'm, I'm driving, I'm, I'm finishing. Quickly, you know? 1940. Are you with↗

5:34:45Speaker 6us? Two million↗

5:34:46Speaker 21Poles. S-s-s-s- no, no, no, no. Russia, Soviet Union killed twenty-five thousand Polish officers, so, so that was genocide, officers, and two million sent to Cyberia and Germany did the same. Okay.↗

5:35:09@joann_marieFucking↗

5:35:09Speaker 21occupation by-↗

5:35:12@joann_marieOkay, Mina, it, it, it-↗

5:35:15@nietzsche258918I do have one more question for him. So, can you get a season pass to Auschwitz? Like, would that make it cheaper?↗

5:35:21Speaker 13No, no, I don't. Come on. You think the Jews are, are, giving away specials like this? There's no way. A season↗

5:35:26Speaker 6pass so you can bypass the lineups to get into different, facilities, like the swimming pool or the orchestra? The soccer field to play. Is there VIP pass? I think you have to become a donor or something perhaps.↗

5:35:38Speaker 15Yeah.↗

5:35:41Speaker 6Can, can you imagine you have no, no,↗

5:35:43@nietzsche258918I don't know how about this? You have to, no, if you bring a child, all, all,↗

5:35:48Speaker 21all, all↗

5:35:49@nietzsche258918barracks, all↗

5:35:51Speaker 21barracks, all barracks in Przezinka, those wooden barracks, like Auschwitz one, you had bricks, bricks barracks. So, so No problem.↗

5:36:04@joann_marieYou're calling out again, Miro, I can't, I can't. I'm, I'm just gonna let him cycle here. You must be driving a van right↗

5:36:09Speaker 13now? You must be driving a van right now or something like this, or you- By the↗

5:36:12Speaker 6way, these are the Poles, Dave, that totally immigrate and assimilate just well, just perfectly in the UK and other places when they're taking over those contractor jobs and doing it for like twenty-five cents on the dollar. These Poles right↗

5:36:24Speaker 13here, there was a lot of Polish immigration to Northern Ireland when I↗

5:36:33@nietzsche258918Okay, well, thank you, Miro.↗

5:36:35@joann_marieI dropped him, his, his internet connection was, I'm insane.↗

5:36:38@nietzsche258918Okay, okay. Yeah, that was enough.↗

5:36:40Speaker 13Him in the contractor van, driving around, dude.↗

5:36:44@nietzsche258918I mean, I'm just wondering when he shows up, they're like, "Oh, Miro, he's back." What? Shit. Even the employees are going, "Why? I wouldn't come here, I'm just getting paid for this." All these↗

5:36:57Speaker 21officers, can you imagine, at, who lost, twenty-five thousand officers in one month.↗

5:37:05@joann_marieOh my God. I don't see him. Who's talking? Miro.↗

5:37:06Speaker 13He's,↗

5:37:08Speaker 18he's inspiring the troops.↗

5:37:09Speaker 13Yeah, he's fucking. I'm,↗

5:37:11Speaker 18I'm, I'm getting the, the whole thing. He's↗

5:37:14Speaker 19in an airplane and he can't hear what he's saying. I'm getting the order. So he's like yelling, he's like, "Listen to me. I know you can't hear what I'm saying, but listen. Okay, you↗

5:37:23@joann_marieneed to stop and↗

5:37:26Speaker 13No, he didn't drop. No, it's, it's happened in Miami too. Yeah. Oh,↗

5:37:30@joann_marieokay. These glitches are so weird.↗

5:37:37Speaker 13The Jews are watching us.↗

5:37:41Speaker 13Oh, man, that really threw me off. Miro just threw me off a little there, that was just-↗

5:37:47@joann_marieHe, he always likes talking about Poland. Like, I, I don't think I've ever heard him talk about anything else that is not Poland.↗

5:37:54@nietzsche258918Not just Poland, just Auschwitz.↗

5:37:59@joann_marieThat's the thing, you know? He, he really liked the part↗

5:38:01Speaker 13of Poland, I guess. I don't know. Funny they never talk about the 60 million Christian slaughter by, by the Bolshevik Jews, you know?↗

5:38:09Speaker 1965↗

5:38:10Speaker 23million, you mean?↗

5:38:13Speaker 12That,↗

5:38:16Speaker 12Well, he, he did. He, he talked about the Russians.↗

5:38:20Speaker 19No, but he-↗

5:38:21Speaker 12And then he went after what the Nazis did, he did.↗

5:38:23Speaker 19No, yeah. So you're right, yeah. He did, he said two↗

5:38:26Speaker 12million too,↗

5:38:27Speaker 19yeah. No, what he was saying was, is that there was no swimming pool, that they was using it for- No, no, no, no, he didn't say that. Oh,↗

5:38:32Speaker 12shut up, man. You know, he did. No, you got no respect. Can I, can I ask you something? What's your heritage? Stupid, stupid. What's your heritage? Where are you coming from? Where do you come from? Hey, oh my God, I'm talking here. Hey, where are you coming from? Hey, oh my God, I'm talking here. Hey, where are you coming from? Hey, oh my God, I'm talking here. Hey, where are you coming from? Hey, oh my God, I'm↗

5:38:55Speaker 19talking here. Hey, where are you↗

5:39:00Speaker 12coming from? Hey, oh↗

5:39:02Speaker 19my God,↗

5:39:05Speaker 12Yeah, what's your heritage?↗

5:39:06Speaker 19I'm German. I'm kind of... You don't know your heritage, stupid?↗

5:39:09Speaker 17I'm↗

5:39:10Speaker 19German.↗

5:39:11Speaker 12I'm German. I'm German. Yeah, that's right. Where did that come from? Europe, you stupid fuck. Yeah,↗

5:39:15Speaker 17so I'm half↗

5:39:15Speaker 19German, I'm half British,↗

5:39:19Speaker 12Good, good, good. Good.↗

5:39:22Speaker 19Good, good, good.↗

5:39:24Speaker 12And you forgot your heritage. Oh no, no, no, I can't, I can't. You forgot your heritage, and that's what the Jew wants. He wants you to forget your heritage, your European heritage. You're such a fucking idiot, bro. You're really, you're really stupid. And↗

5:39:35Speaker 13they↗

5:39:37@joann_mariejust keep on fighting. What are you talking about? You're, you're stupid. Oh, okay, I'm over it, I'm so over it. Okay.↗

5:39:42@nietzsche258918I hope you didn't mind, but I removed↗

5:39:45@joann_marieI'm walking here, I'm walking, I'm walking here. I don't normally↗

5:39:48@nietzsche258918do that, but, you know.↗

5:39:52@joann_marieNo, no, no, I don't, I don't.↗

5:39:59@nietzsche258918I don't wanna, I don't wanna point something out about the, about the, the outgroup psychopathy, you know? Jean Jacques Rousseau wrote the social contract, so contractualism is basically, conducive to a high trust society. So it's, it's basically the idea of that there's an implicit set of rules that we all operate by.↗

5:40:20@nietzsche258918But when you live with people that have outgroup psychopathy, then there are two social contracts. There's the one that everybody, the normies, live by, and then there's the ones they live by knowing That they can operate by principles that undermine everyone else. So in actuality, you can be Talmudic without being religious, because when you're reading the Talmud, hey, we can rape them. You don't have to be religious, you don't have to believe in the Torah to believe that. When it says in the Talmud, we can lie to them and we can cheat them and don't tell on each other Does that sound religious? That's just saying we're us and they're them, and part of our social contract is that we can undermine them. So, and contractualism was actually invented by Thomas Hobbes. So, but the whole idea of contractualism is, is that it has to be holistic, right? It has to be a set of rules that everyone lives by. You wouldn't ever play a game of cards or a game of billiards or any kind of game with someone where they're like, "There's two sets of rules, the rules that favor me, and then you have to play by these other rules." Well, you just wouldn't play with those people. And of course, these people are obviously, and this is where the Jewish supremacy comes in, this is the obviousity that we're all awakening to, there is a separate set of rules for them, and it is incredibly deleterious to our civilization. It's not like innocuous, it's a very, very bad, negative, mean, nasty. All of their extra rules, all of their supremacist rules are downright malicious and hateful towards us, and so that's what we're awakening to. So I, I just wanted to sort of- You know, kind of demystify this idea of whether they're religious or not, and that's really where, even in the Talmud, you have a lot of things that really aren't, aren't spiritual. There's nothing numinous about this, nothing like, "Oh, you know, this is, this is the way to become a better human being." No, this is the way to lie, the way to cheat, the way to steal, the way to rape. So, you know, I mean, there's no way, there's no possible way to get along with people that Within themselves that you're not privy to. What do you think about that?↗

5:42:39Speaker 18I've been thinking about that quite a bit. In fact, for example, like the Mezzogiorno, right? the Mafia in Italy, they were there, such as the IRA in, Ireland, to almost be like a counterbalance. That doesn't exist anymore. These things that were counterbalances didn't exist, and if you talk to anyone in these countries, they will tell you that,↗

5:43:08Speaker 18you know, during the time of, like, Sir Adolf, these things didn't exist as well. My biggest fear is that these things are hijacked, and they're going to turn it into a tota- tota-totalitarian government, that's, Not our way. and that's my biggest fear because these cards and these chips aren't already happening? Well, yes, but what I'm saying is there's no one, you know, essentially fighting back in these small ways. Where that's always been the thing. And I, this globalism stuff is, it's, it's really scary and,↗

5:43:49Speaker 18Yeah, it-- there's always, there was always a counterforce, a countermeasure. So does that like help, like fit into, like I guess, where I'm coming from on it? I'm, I'm, I'm very scared about it.↗

5:44:01@nietzsche258918Well, I mean, I think it's reasonable to be concerned, and of course, that's why we need a great awakening, and that's why it's happening. But I'm just making the simple point, I think part of the great awakening is realizing, you know, it is the nature of us to want to be consistent. There have only been two moral systems in the history of the world that have ever been devised. Altruism, which I view as to be illegitimate because it's a science of hiding self-interest, and the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule is anarchic in the most enlightened way. You simply know that you don't want to be treated that way, and therefore you don't treat other people that way. So this is why that you all tend to play by the same rules. This is why no one is supremacist. It is the heart of what it means to be a Jewish supremacist. Is to believe that you can operate by different rules at the expense of everyone that's not part of your group. That is it. This is ex-- I have just stated reality. You can hate it, you can rail against it, you can denounce me for calling it out, but I have stated that which is true. Now, if you and I, and all of us in this room, got up and went to Japan and decided that we were gonna go and hang out there for a month, we would want to conform to their social norms. We would want to make sure that we're not stepping on Figuratively, of course, not literally, and sort of operating by their principles. I don't want to offend the Japanese, I'm sure they have wonderful social norms, a wonderful social contractualism, and at least they're all playing by the same rules. No, no, no, we're talking about one group of people on the entire planet Earth who believe, who consider it legitimate that their modus operandi is to go into another civilization and to undermine it and treat those people outside of their group as As something less than, as something inferior, and not just less than them, but less than human, and that is just untenable. There is no possible way. I can just tell you, if you roll back the movie and try to play it again, it's always going to end the same, because you're violating immutable principles of human nature. It's always going to end badly if we allow this to happen, and we simply have to stop it.↗

5:46:19@joann_marieI love that, David, and so true. Thank you, thank you so much. And what, what do you think about this, William?↗

5:46:28Speaker 18Yeah, well, we have to stop it, yeah, we do. you know, I'm doing my best, trust me I am. I wish I could tell you how much I'm doing my best, and I'm sure everyone else is doing their best in their own way. but it's tough, man. It's tough with the technology, and not saying technology can't be used for good, because it's definitely good, I guess, like the public seeing like body cam videos of- How things actually work and, awakening people to that, but,↗

5:47:02Speaker 18yeah, it's, it's gonna be a struggle. It's gonna be, it's gonna be, in my view, a period where things go really bad and the people that are in charge, like, you know, they, they have all this stuff mapped out, planned out,↗

5:47:19Speaker 18So yeah, I mean, it's, it's that whole topic, it's what can we do, what are we preparing for, et cetera, I don't know, but I, I do know, yes, we will win eventually, whoever we are, so, you know, you, I'm in, I'm game, I'm doing my part, I think, trying my best, I think, and, but as far as, you know, like I guess the mainstream media, like, they're gonna do what they're gonna do, and that's just the way it is. Like, they're gonna keep throwing all this bullshit in Iran and, you know, the straits open today and tomorrow we're back at war, and they're gonna do it till they take, you know, a few more chunks of land, and then, Russia,↗

5:48:07Speaker 18just blew up some stuff in Kiev, and they're gonna keep doing these Jedi mind tricks on the people. And it's terrible, like, it shouldn't be like this, but unfortunately, this is the world we live in. People shouldn't have to live like this, unfortunately, but we do. so yeah, you know, I, I, I can't give like an easy answer, an easy, easy solution, 'cause I just simply don't have one. we just have to ride, ride the wave and do what we can, I suppose.↗

5:48:35@joann_marieBut William, I think they didn't count on people waking up. I think they, they thought that people were gonna-- more people were gonna be on their side, and right after what happened in, after October 7th, that more people woke up of the genocide, I think it got out of their hands and... Yeah, I, I have seen the change, and I, I do think that we're gonna win, and, and I also think that it's gonna get worse before it gets better, but I genuinely, like, to cut this out of the bag, it's, it's over for them. But, and every single person that I've talked to, that I've like explained to them what is actually going on in the world, everybody gets like super passionate about it and starts talking to more people and more people and more people, so it will happen. But We just need to keep resisting and keep talking about it and not get blackballed and, yeah, form your own communities with what you're doing and↗

5:49:31@joann_mariekeep resisting. You're doing okay.↗

5:49:35@nietzsche258918The last thing though is we still have to remember this your obligation to be happy. You're the instrument of your own happiness, so don't think of yourself as struggling in quiet desperation. Your everyday should be finding a way to be peaceful and happy, have dominion over your mind and your thoughts and your body. You should feel good walking around in your own skin, and you should fight on principle, you should say the thing on principle, you should operate on principle, and you're not going to feel like, "Oh, gosh, you know..." I mean, the long stretch of time, the truth is always gonna win out. I keep saying every lie has an expiration date, and this one has come due. So you're a part of the great awakening. It's very exciting. Your only responsibility beyond that, you know, True Teller talks about things you can do to be healthy with your body, but also your mind. You know, make sure that you feel good and that you're getting in touch with your own feeling of your divine spark within you, and therefore you won't feel like you're fighting against some sort of, you know, giant And you won't get despondent or, you know, overly anxious or filled with anxiety. No, no, no, you're a part of a basically a giant wave that's going to fall down and collapse over these people, and definitely take heart in that. They're a very small group of people, and one day when we pull back the curtain and it's all over for them, you're going to realize just how small and insignificant they were, and all it took for the rest of us is just to rise up, be awakened, pull back the curtain, and say, "Oh my gosh We're nothing, we're not gonna let you rule us anymore.↗