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Thomas Massie - America Last?Featuring @WitsitGetsIt

Ian Malcolm reflects on Thomas Massie's loss, framing it as validation for their worldview on Jewish supremacy.

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  1. 0:00Massey's Defeat & Worldview ValidationIan Malcolm reflects on Thomas Massie's loss, framing it as validation for their worldview on Jewish supremacy.
  2. 4:58Jewish Supremacy in AmericaThe host argues that Jewish supremacy controls American politics, media, and technology, citing Massey's defeat as proof.
  3. 11:08Yitz's Perspective on Massey's LossYitz celebrates Massie's defeat, claiming it reflects the will of the American people against an 'anti-Semite'.
  4. 25:00Massey's Future & Zionist OccupationDr. Recktenwald discusses Thomas Massie's potential next steps and laments the 'Zionist occupation' of American politics.
  5. 34:20Illegal Deepfakes & Ruling ClassThe panel discusses the illegality of AI deepfakes used against Massie and the ruling class's impunity.
  6. 41:40Kentucky Voters & Jewish ControlJames Wood criticizes Kentucky voters and highlights the extensive Jewish financial influence in Massie's election.
  7. 51:15Free Speech Under AttackMrWorldwideGoy discusses the Florida bill criminalizing 'conspiratorial pamphlets' and the erosion of free speech.
  8. 58:20Pharmaceuticals and Societal DecayThe conversation shifts to the dangers of pharmaceuticals and their role in societal decline, particularly among white communities.
  9. 1:05:00Political Process & Movement BuildingThe panel debates the value of electoral politics versus building a broader movement to counter the 'enemy'.
  10. 1:15:00Full Court Press by ZionistsIan Malcolm points out the aggressive tactics of Zionist groups, including anti-Semitism task forces, as a 'full court press'.
  11. 1:21:40Dual Citizenship & Election IntegrityDonna raises concerns about dual US-Israeli citizens voting in US elections and potential interference.
  12. 1:31:40Global Awakening to Jewish ProblemA London caller describes a growing global awareness of the 'Jewish problem' and the need to speak out.
  13. 1:40:00Witsit on Overton Window ShiftWitsit discusses the shifting Overton window regarding Jewish supremacy and the need for articulate communication.
  14. 1:48:20Censorship and Strategic CommunicationWitsit warns of impending censorship and emphasizes the importance of precise, well-founded arguments to avoid being silenced.
  15. 1:56:40Trump's Role in Surveillance StateWitsit speculates on Trump's role in a potential surveillance state and the ongoing battle for free speech.
  16. 2:05:00Escalation and Societal ChaosIan Malcolm and David Nixey discuss the potential for escalating conflict and societal chaos as a distraction from underlying issues.
  17. 2:13:20Truth vs. Cleverness in ActivismDavid Nixey advocates for direct, moral truth-telling over clever tactics in their fight for freedom.
  18. 2:21:40Freedom from ManipulationLou Polo emphasizes freeing oneself from manipulation and hate to achieve true freedom, citing the Greater Israel project.
  19. 2:30:00Sophisticated Warfare & MessagingMalleus discusses the need for sophisticated messaging in a 'sophisticated war' and avoiding simplistic, easily debunked arguments.
  20. 2:38:20Socratic Method & USS LibertyHoney Badger advocates for the Socratic method in debates and argues against dismissing historical events like the USS Liberty.
  21. 2:46:40Greater Israel's Impact on AmericansMartin questions why 'Greater Israel' is detrimental to common Americans, urging a focus on direct impacts.
  22. 2:55:00Massey's Loss & Trump's InfluenceAndy discusses the narrative surrounding Massie's loss, questioning Trump's influence versus the impact of external funding.
  23. 3:03:20Massey's Backlash & VindicationIQ via JQ sees Massie's loss as a vindication of their worldview, predicting backlash against the system.
  24. 3:11:40Yitz on Cheating & Greater IsraelYitz dismisses claims of cheating in Massie's election and defends the concept of 'Greater Israel'.
  25. 3:20:00Jewish Influence & Hate SpeechYitz argues for a strong Jewish community in the US to prevent antisemitism and supports hate speech laws.
  26. 3:28:20Nuclear Ambiguity & SupremacyWitsit challenges Yitz on Israel's nuclear ambiguity, arguing it demonstrates a supremacist ideology.
  27. 3:36:40Israeli Culture & ViolenceYitz defends Israeli culture and downplays mass shootings, leading to a heated exchange about Palestinian victims.
  28. 3:45:00IQ Myth & Jewish SupremacyWitsit debunks the Jewish IQ myth, connecting it to a broader pattern of Jewish supremacy and intellectual fraud.
  29. 3:53:20Einstein's Fraud & Physics DeceptionWitsit argues that Einstein was a fraud and his theories are a 'Jewish lie' that has distorted understanding of physics.
  30. 4:01:40Moral Relativism & ControlWitsit links Einstein's theories to moral relativism and a broader control mechanism, including the suppression of free energy.
  31. 4:10:00Awakening and IntegrityIan Malcolm and Witsit conclude by emphasizing the importance of integrity, truth, and articulate discourse in the ongoing awakening.

The Transcript

@joann_marieOh,

Ian Malcolmwe got some audio. Alright. Well, maybe that's actually a fitting way to, to introduce things. Miss Joanne, hopefully the audio is coming in all right on, on your end, and I say that is, isn't that actually rather fitting? I guess the, the audio wanted to cut out in what was going to be "We Are the Champions." And, I suppose we aren't, today, at least in a political sense, because Thomas Massey has been ousted, as the media has been saying, he has been defeated. And so in a sense, we aren't the champions. our champion is no longer there.

Ian Malcolmbut in a way, I suppose we are the champions intellectually, because the very worldview that we've been trying to take to the masses Well, it certainly played itself out, and, it seems like it is becoming irrefutable that, we've been right about pretty much everything, pretty much always, and that I think we've pretty much distilled the root cause of the reason that we are correct down to a central theme that is so unbelievably accurate that it explains the past While providing context for the future, while essentially, well, let's say that again, it explains the past, gives context to the present, it predicts the future. And in some sense, I said, last week, that in the event that Thomas Massey lost That all this would do is to further validate, again, our worldview. It would further bring the uncomfortable reality to anybody that's been thinking about these issues that we've been correct, and in turn, it's going to turn more people on to these ideas, right? And that might sound,

Ian Malcolmlike, like trying to find the silver lining on what is a dark day, and in some sense, it is. Right, but in a way, kind of curiously, this almost mirrors to some extent the very, I, I guess, claims that Nick Fuentes would say would be a benefit for the Democrats winning in, Ohio, right? That it's a, it's a one-two punch against, in their worldview, the Republicans, and in their loss, it's then going to force function somebody to step forward that's a little bit more direct in their opposition to this machine, right? which Thomas Maskey's pretty- Pretty much the only person that went after, right? He went after the Epstein class, he obviously was, going after the Fed and a whole bunch of other things, and he certainly went against foreign interests in the elections. And, and he's been defeated. And, did so with thirty-plus million dollars between three rich billionaire Jews, not really proving us wrong there in terms of their meddling with, the elections, and also not proving us wrong with their ability to win as a result of the financing. And so what do we now have? Well, we have essentially the reality that, again, we've been correct not only about what's been going on, but we also were able to unfortunately have the sensibility to say, and I, I, I said it, I think, the last three or four days, that this is a very real possible outcome, right? And I saw Ryan Madigan really excited about the turnout for Massey, and there's actually a curious piece to take away from that. Which is that maybe Massey did get the support, maybe he did have the ground game, maybe everybody that went out actually did support him, but maybe the voting machines and the tallies don't reflect that, right? So not only do we have the consequences and the potential problems that our Elections are being massively interfered with via special interests, let's just call them, but that also potentially that voting doesn't matter, right? I don't like to take that, bend. I, I think it's dangerous to go down that path 'cause it leaves very limited, prospective future states and, and the ways that we can arrive at them. Right? But what we clearly can see is that Thomas Maskey, a guy who in twenty twenty-two won with seventy-six percent of the votes, was basically unseated by a virtual no-name merely because they had the support of the Jewish Epstein class. And if anybody wants to suggest that that's not the case, well, then go, go listen to the closing remarks of Dilligent Space after this one, in which a Jewish supremacist, this guy- AB, who I, I will mention their name just because they've been caught in so many missteps, it's so laughable, it's just gaslighting over and over and over again. And he comes in, well, none of those donors were in the Epstein files. Oops, actually one of them, if not two of them were. Takes no shame in it. Nope. Doesn't have any embarrassment, no, you know, regard for the fact that people might look at them and say, "Oh, I'm not gonna take that person seriously any longer." Right? There's just a complete ability to lie with zero shame, to be able to suggest that which we all know completely incorrect, to not be embarrassed by that, and to gaslight everybody and to pretend that we don't see the obvious. To meanwhile tell us that Zionism, it's all about just protecting the, the, the nation of Israel, really? Is that, that Zionism, that's, that's that word that predates Israel? Is that what that is, really? We've got a word that means something, and the thing that it means didn't exist when the word came about? Really, that's what we're gonna suggest? How laughably low IQ and disingenuous do you have to be to listen to that? It's, it's, it's ludicrous! What is Zionism? Go back to Roman Jerusalem, go back to Moses Hes, who collaborated of all people, ironically, with Karl Marx and with Engels on the Communist Manifesto. We know about this 'cause we went intimately through it with Karen on one of these phases. If you don't like that suggestion, go back and listen. She documents all of it, in addition to the fact that Marx and his entanglements via marriage with the Rothschilds. She went through all of that. It is irrefutably correct. It's very uncomfortable, but it's correct. And Zionism, according to Moses Hess, was the construction of a nation state that would rule the world. That is what Zionism is. All these other people are lying to you, just like they lie about everything, and they do it without shame. They don't see anything wrong with it, and why? Well, prospectively, because maybe there's just a, a genetic aversion to shame. Maybe it's a result of schizophrenia, something that runs rampant in this community. Maybe it is just paranoia, again, something that runs rampant through this community. Or maybe it's a result of the religious reality that in the town that these people are supposed to lie to you about things if it's beneficial for their interests. It's a really uncomfortable thing, but imagine if, imagine if Christianity said, "Lie all the time if it's good for Christians." Well, then what would that mean if you were talking about either Christianity or of Christ or of the Vatican or of the Pope or of your priest? Did your priest just murder that guy? No, definitely not. I saw him put a knife inside somebody's chest and then pushed their body into the woods, but they definitely didn't murder anybody, I promise you. That's essentially what is celebrated, because they are supposed to put the interests of their people and of their causes ahead of the truth.

Ian MalcolmAnd so what are we supposed to make of this when we get a reality where not only does Maskey lose, not only does he lose in the most financed congressional seat that arguably, not only of this year, but of, of election cycles for a long time, if not ever, I'd actually need to look into that one. What does it say when the only guy willing to go on Tucker Carlson and say that we've got an APAC handler for all of the congressmen, when that guy is rushed out of office? He's the last, he's the only person that would do it. And now you've got billionaire Jews who come in and they finance the thing, arguably rig the election or do anything and everything else to make sure it comes out to their favor, and now that guy is out. But I chose the song by Queen, "We Are the Champions," as I add some individuals up here, and yes, I promise you, if you just interrupt, I don't think you will, because you're very, very respectful, and I appreciate that, I really do. Sincerely, thumbs up to you.

Ian Malcolmbut what is all this? What, what is the takeaway? How are we to react to these things when we've been saying this, this, this, this, this, and everybody says, "No, you're a bigot, you're an antisemite, you're a conspiracy theorist, you're a racist," and we're like, "No, I'm just right, and I'm right, and I'm right, and I'm right, and I'm right, and I'm right." And now the curious thing about this, for what it is worth Is I'm seeing a lot of individuals that are going on the timeline. I'm not even gonna point fingers in the direction of any person or groups of people. I see a lot of things on the timeline. This is what the Republicans do to us. We'll show 'em by getting in bed with the Democrats. Really? That's the solution? Maybe we'll go get AOC, a Sephardic Jew, who's gonna support anything and everything that is detrimental to the white middle class. That's gonna solve our problems. It's crazy. It is a very obvious problem. Jewish supremacy runs the entirety of the country. It runs the politics, it runs the media, it runs the technology, so much so that when Larry Ellison bought TikTok, Benjamin Netanyahu gets to say, "We bought it, 'cause they're all the same thing." Israel is Jewish supremacy. Our Jewish billionaires are the Epstein class. It is the media, it's the politicians, it's the technology, it's your academic institutions, it's the NGOs, it's the people flooding the borders, it's the people sending your children Children to go die fighting Iran. That is all Jewish supremacy. It's very obvious. And what could be more supremacist than a system that is this overt and flagrant, while simultaneously, in fifteen different cities, they are going to send out their anti-Semitic task force to go around to all the major cities and to work with all the religions to make sure they condemn anti-Semitism. What could be, what could be more ridiculous than this? We live in a nation where we have government agencies preparing battle plans to go out and run around town. Jews definitely don't have any power. Recite after me, and if you don't, I will arrest you. Like, this is crazy. It's time that we all wake up, that we all recognize the obvious. I think the people are going to, so the beauty of this is while today is a dark day

Ian MalcolmWe are the champions, because even diligent Denison, who a year ago referred to me as the crazy, it's the Israel guy, is now in rooms and saying this is a serious problem. Diligent is a reasonable person. I think that he's a patriotic guy. I think he's looking at the problem and he wants to call it foreign involvement in American politics. That's him being very PC about it for reasons that we can all comprehend and understand. He's got a big platform. Right? So kudos to him though, because he's go- he's calling it out, and it's pretty obvious. And the craziest part about it, and I, I truly don't know, and we will go, first and foremost, we'll go to Joanne, and then we will go to Yitz when I kind of open up the floor here, because I really want to understand, 'cause Yitz is-- he's a reasonable guy, right? I think he, he speaks intelligently. And the, the curiosity that I have is, this is so flagrant, it is so obvious. The only person in DC that would be willing to speak about the Epstein issue, the Federal Reserve, the APAC handlers, and a litany of other issues gets ousted from office despite again winning overwhelmingly in his primary in twenty twenty-two, seventy-six percent of the vote. That guy is now out of office after literally thirty plus million dollars from three Israeli billionaires. These aren't just Jews, these are individuals with dual citizenship with Israel. These individuals come in, they meddle with the election, they get Thomas Massie, who literally was on Tucker Carlson. Again, he was in, up for consideration with Trump's cabinet. He was the most devout individual in terms of aligning with conservative policies, according to all these independent studies, and he's signing Democratic legislation more than all but one congressman, and that individual has been kicked out. Because I guess the media and the Trump administration and the Israeli billionaires and the Epstein cohort, they don't like him. What do all those have in common? So this is so obvious that, yet it's the question that I'm gonna have for you, and again, we'll go to Joanne first and foremost, and then we'll go to you, but yet it's the thing that I want you to fire up. Is how is it at this point that you can't look at the situation in front of us, and regardless of your allegiance to Israel or the Jewish Empire or any of these things, how could you look at anyone in the face and say that Jewish supremacy isn't running America? I really want a sincere answer to that question. When every aspect of every piece of the media, the technology, all of the politicians, so much so that the one guy who spoke out against it, every piece of all those things I just mentioned went weaponizing against him to remove him from office in one. How is it that you can say that this system isn't completely corrupted by this entity? and so real quickly, before we go to Jay and before we go to Mr. Yitz, I also wanted to, to call out that, Witzit is prospectively gonna be able to join us. I'm excited, hoping that he does. Very interesting personality. Talks about all kinds of things ranging from UFOs and extraterrestrials, to, to flat Earth, which is something I've spoken about in the past with him. I don't subscribe to, but I find it interesting from a intellectual standpoint just to talk about, right? I'm, I'm hoping that he's able to join in with us. I know that he's doing a live stream right now for his platform as well on YouTube, Rumble, and a whole bunch of other networks. So, as soon as we have him in here, we'll certainly put him to the front of the queue. But with that being said, let's go to Ms. Joanne. Also give a big welcome to Dr. Recktenwald,

Ian Malcolmwho I

@joann_marieHey, Ian, thank you so much for hosting. And I'm kind of happy that this song didn't work, because I love Queen, and I had no idea that that was what we were kind of listening to before it cut off. but I, I'm just really happy to be here and, I mean, you were right, truth was right, everybody that has been speaking about this was right, and I just hope that More people wake up and, and faster, because it is getting very dangerous. And, yeah, no, happy to be here. And also, guys, remember the Jews didn't get here easily. They lost a bunch of times, you know, and they just kept trying and kept trying and kept trying. So it's the perseverance, right? And we will, we will win, guys. And, and that's it.

@joann_marieAnd also, guys, please repost this space and follow Ian and Michael, and our amazing speakers, except Jits, and if you guys go to that, I will also repost that, and thank you so much for being here. Yeah? Okay, go for it, Jits.

Speaker 1thank you, Ian, for giving me the mic. I just want to say that I, I'm actually at a watch party right now, so I only have a few moments to speak, and then I'll have to-- and maybe I'll try to join again later tonight, but, but I am at a watch

Speaker 1so I just wanted to say real quickly for everyone that, you know, dream boy, lost, your dream boy is lost, and, you, you're trying to cope really hard now, and, you know, you're going to have troubled nightmares, which you've spoken of it, especially, Mr. Michael, Wackenwald. And everyone has to learn, you know, you know, we never lose, we really do never lose. The elves tried to defeat us. Well, generations, and, they always get pounded in the end. look what's happening with Iran, look what's happening with-- Can you get

@joann_mariecloser to the mic, to the microphone or something, because you, like, it's hard to, to hear you. I

Speaker 2think he's in the restroom. Can you-

@joann_marieOh,

Speaker 2can you, can you hear me better now? I'm, I'm not serious when I say that, but he might

@joann_mariebe. Yeah, it does sound like echoey.

Speaker 3He's in, he's in the synagogue of Satan right now. It's very, it's very, capacious and echoes in there. Okay, give me a

Speaker 1second, I will move the earbuds. One second, please. Can anyone hear me now?

Speaker 1Okay. Can you hear me now?

Speaker 1Okay. I, I do have to, I, I have to go home. Oh, that, that was

@joann_marieperfect, Ian. I, I know that. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1So, so I'll be really quick because, in case you don't hear, in case nobody was able to hear, I'm actually enjoying a

Speaker 1That actually is a great song, by Queen. But, but the point is, I, I am at a watch party, so I'm gonna have to leave, in a moment. But I just want to say that, Dream Boy, Massey, failed, and, you're gonna have to cope tonight really hard to try to, you know, stay positive, which is just ridiculous. But I want to let everyone know- But my

Ian Malcolmquestion would you, would you agree that Thomas Massey, losing who's the one person that spoke out against this The very suggestion that we've been making that you've been arguing against. He's,

Speaker 1he's, he's not the, the only person of, of Dan Brazilian who's next on the top of the block. Is he currently in office? and then, of course, Kathy. And, well, they want to be in office. Currently

Speaker 1on the, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, aren't they, Going to win, there's a lot of American Jews in this country. Why do you think, Anthony? No, no, then you're not going to win. I mean, look what happened tonight. It was just, it was, it was a slaw, it was just, he got slammed. It was the most brilliant victory. It totally made my, my mouth and it, it made my ear just brilliant and broke some,

Ian Malcolmit's a great victory. Do you wanna define for the audience what a Pyrrhic victory is?

Speaker 1That, that's not what this is. wait, wait, I didn't ask you that. I

Ian Malcolmasked if you could define the term.

Speaker 1That idea was a famous Greek general who conquered, he won, I believe, every battle in Rome, but lost a war. But, but you know, go ahead and cope. I mean, I mean, that's, that's what you want to do. It's fine. You have a free country, you have every right to cope. But I would just end it that the American people's voice has been spoken tonight, and, they voted

Speaker 1Someone who votes China first and Russia first, not someone who's an anti-Semite, and, that's what counts. So we, we still have a great country, and as long as it stays this way, I will be proud to be an American.

Ian MalcolmWell, and I will say Yitz, and, and even so, I, I, I wanna call this out because I do think of all of the individuals that we debate these topics with, Yitz is by far my favorite. I think he's, he's funny and humorous, and also he's knowledgeable, right? I asked him about the Pyrrhic victory, I, I, I have a feeling that probably one in ten in this room maybe could, could properly define that. So well done on that front, Yitz. I do think that this is going to

Ian MalcolmYou might have won the battle, but, but you've emboldened the, the cavalry and the rest of the war that is coming, and, and that's not a kinetic or a call for violence, but politically speaking, I think there's a lot of gameplay left in this one.

Speaker 1Well, I will just simply say this, Ian, you can concur, you can, celebrate if that happens. I don't think it will, and, Mazur to, to Ed, and, and, I The truth is on my side, obviously. And, I see Michael's back, but rather than provoke him again, I'm just gonna leave. Like, like I said, I'm at the watch party, so I'm gonna go back and enjoy the food and the drinks. But thank you for lending me the mic. thank you for the mic.

Ian MalcolmOf course, and, and we had to get the, the alternative perspective. I like to always try and offer, offer a microphone to it. And again, I'll call it out of all of the Jews on this application, I enjoy Yitz the most. conversationally, I think he's a, he's a bright individual. He's reasonably reasonable, and, amongst his cohort of, Jewish supremacists, that is a, that's a stretch. It's hard to find that. So, so kudos to you,

Ian MalcolmParty and, and we will see all the rest of this war wages on. And as we do, let's, let's check in with Mr. Or Dr. Recktenwald and, and get some of his thoughts on this.

Speaker 3Yeah, hey guys, yeah, I see Yitz, I don't know if Yitz is still gonna stay around and listen to what I have to say. but let me just say this, the election, this, this election was not a victory for Ed Gouwren. Nobody even cares who Ed Gouw For Miriam Adelson, Paulson and Singer, and the whole Jewish Zionist lobby, whose entire, whose entire,

Speaker 3MO is completely service to Israel. So that's what we got. We got a, our, we had a, a seat absolutely taken from us. Purchased by these billionaires who ran all these slanderous AI ads on TV, baseless garbage, and, they have no, they have absolutely no scruples at all. These people will do and say anything. So we have an enemy that is extremely repulsive, as we see with Yitz, I'm sorry, I find him very repulsive in the sense that his,

Speaker 3his Shall we say, bravado and, his, vain glorious, you know, try, trying to, parade the vic, this victory and, put it in our faces. Let me just say this, there's a lot more of us than there are of the Zionists, and we will, we will wrest power back, we will gain, regain our sovereignty, we will get rid of this Zionist occupation.

Speaker 3I think this was a defeat. It isn't good that this happened. It isn't good that, that Thomas Massie lost. I am not a big believer in accelerationism, however, that's all we have left. We have to hope that this event will sicken enough Americans that they will absolutely rise up and do something about this total occupation. This was our last remaining seat. On, you know, other than, you know, on, a couple maybe left us here and there that you can't rely on mostly,

Speaker 3this was our last remaining holdout for, for American sovereignty over a Zionist occupation So, we, we're up against it now. It's tougher. We wanted to have him as a kind of kernel around which the coalition would be built, people like Bilzarian and others going in there, but, you know, that's not gonna happen. So we have to start from scratch.

Speaker 3we're down to the, we're down to it now. We, we have nothing, nothing in place. We have nothing but uphill battle here, and it's gonna be tough, and, it's not for the weary or the faint of heart. So if you're gonna be in this, get in it and, stop pussyfooting around. This is a serious situation. We're under ass- assault on a constant basis.

Speaker 3They're robbing us daily to pay for their slaughter and so forth. So

Ian MalcolmAnd Dr. Recknold, I'm curious, what do you think, Thomas Massey will likely do now that he's not, or, or once he relinquishes his seat? What, what do you think his next step will be, whether it's, running for future office or getting involved in media in some capacity? What, what do you envision for his future?

Speaker 3Yeah, I don't see him doing anything with media. if he's to do anything, I would think he would, start to tease the idea of a presidential run or, or some sort Other run. that's-- I think he's gonna try to, you know, when you get hit, you can't, you can't, when you're, when you're down, you can't stay down. You gotta come up, and when you come up, you gotta come up swinging. You can't, you know, you gotta come up on the offensive. Isn't-- This isn't just, you know, rope-a-dope. We've gotta be on-- He's gotta be on the offensive, so he might run for-- He may tease the idea of running for president,

Speaker 3but other than that, I would see him retiring onto his, you know, self-sufficient ranch and basically tuning everything out. other-- but I don't see him doing that. I think he's too young and too vibrant for that right now. I don't see him doing that. I think he's gonna stay in it and do something like run for a higher office.

@joann_marieAnd Dr. Michael, I had a question. So, you know, those AI deepfakes, commercials that they were doing, like, they are completely illegal. So, isn't that, like, couldn't they say that the election isn't valid since those are illegal to do?

Speaker 3Yeah, I mean- If they said, "If, if, if we had done this, yes, they could say that, and they would win," but it's not the case when we-- when they do it, they get away with it because they're the ruling class. The ruling class never puts itself in jail, okay? It doesn't do that. The ruling class doesn't investigate itself. It only goes after us, okay? This is a Zionist ruling class, that's what we're up against.

Speaker 3And behind them is, you know, behind all these Zionists in office, we have major, Zionist Jewish billionaires, a network of them, and then this huge, you know, upper middle class Jewish professoriate and other elements of, of the, of the Jewish, contingency in the United States who funnel all this money, through these phony charities. To the IDF and to, also to settlements in the, in the, in the, in the West Bank, which they refuse not to call, by name, the West Bank. You know, they want it to be Samaria and Judea. I mean, this,

Speaker 3this is ridiculous. I mean, these people are imposing like their will wherever they go. We have got to stand up. Come on, let's get us prime. We have got to stand up to this. They're imposing their will on everyone, and they're doing it to us, and I know people in this room are fighting, and I really appreciate that. Let's marshal more troops, and I don't mean this militarily, I'm not talking about a physical confrontation.

Speaker 3I'm talking about a political movement that swamps, swamps over them, absolutely, you know, drowns them, like a big tsunami. That's what we need.

Ian MalcolmYeah, no, very well stated, and, I, I couldn't agree with that more, and I, I, I like that idea of the, the tsunami, right? that there is a window where enough voices will require to force function the change, even if done in a very, righteous and, lawful sense. And, you know, there's, there's some people that would suggest, maybe more volatile, means to go about this, but the reality is that by stepping into that booby trap, you actually just empower them. To take all the firearms, take away all your rights, your liberties, your, your, your right to assembly and all the other things in between. So, it seems very foolish to think that that's a, a proper solution. just a, a quick little note to everybody that's requesting, I know we've got a lot right now, I just wanna let you know we'll go through the hands and certainly cycle people through. and as we do, I'm, I'm very excited that I know we've got James Wood in here, very curious for his thoughts, and

Speaker 4Is that a cue for me to go? Yeah, go for it, James. How you guys doing? It's, it's a sad thing to watch. and thank you, Ian, the opportunity to speak. It's a sad thing to watch America go through this. I'm not sure what to say. I've, you know, when I first encountered Ian I apply my common sense to this. And people of Kentucky,

Speaker 4I don't know what to think. I just don't know. I, I, I, common sense isn't so common anymore.

Speaker 4watching, I mean, there's always this debate about the Jewish question, about whether Israel runs our country. Thirty-two million dollars, a record amount of money was spent for a congressional seat. No, never has there been this much money spent on one congressional, primary, not even the actual, you know, midterm, a primary.

Speaker 4and Kentucky, the people of Kentucky just not real bright, you know, there, there's a There's always the conversation about IQ and how smart people are. The Boomers believe whatever they put on Fox News, and we have a serious issue in the, in the conservative Republican movement because it's, it's-- I remain convinced that

Speaker 4they killed Charlie Kirk. There's no doubt now. They're willing to do anything. And, and this is a sad- It's a sad state we find ourselves in. It's really, it really is, and, and it proves everything that Ian's ever said, right? You got to see it. Like, he's been saying it for years. And he al- he always said they control everything, they, they control the media, they control this, they control that. You saw them spend, Jewish billionaires, you saw them spend thirty-two million dollars.

Speaker 4On Thomas Massie's congressional seat. You saw Trump do an about-face and, and, and just turn against all of his friends for the, all the money, the $300 million that Merriam-Emmons paid him. You, you've seen Jewish control of the entire House of Congress and the Senate. Is everybody's quiet? Charlie Kirk said that Massie was his favorite congressman.

Speaker 4You didn't hear a peep out of Erica Kirk. Nothing, nothing Charlie wanted is being done. Nobody that he supported is being supported. His anti, you know, stance against what Israel was doing to, to TPUSA, his anti-stance of what they were doing to, you know, Iran and people of Gaza, people in Lebanon, like everything he stood for,

Speaker 4everything, they're doing the opposite. And the only way to do it is if he's dead. You know, they're willing to spend whatever it takes. They, they're willing to do what they-- and, and, and in the process proving Ian Malcolm right. Many, he has many detractors that say, "Oh, it's just the Jews, the Jews, the Jews." Well, he was right.

Speaker 4Now, you can not like what he's saying, but he's a hundred percent right. And tonight we saw it again. It's like, it's like he was arguing that Bigfoot existed. He's been saying that for years, and then Bigfoot jumps out and starts just attacking people in the middle of New Year's Eve on Time, in Times Square, and there's nothing that-- you can't deny it now

Speaker 4that the Big- Bigfoot rapes ten people and kills fifty children, you, you, you have to acknowledge that you saw Bigfoot. We just saw Bigfoot. We just saw Bigfoot. People, all people that say, "Well, Israel doesn't control our Congress and our Senate and, and Donald Trump." You just saw Bigfoot, the biggest foot you've ever seen, that came out and just told you who to vote, vote for, and spent, like, they have money, not because they're just geniuses, because we give them the money. There are towns all over America that somehow have a line item in their budget to give Israel money. Not just our Congress, not just our Senate, not just our federal government, there are small towns all over Texas, Tennessee, you know, everywhere, California, where they have a line item that sends money to Israel, for some reason or another.

Speaker 4Our greatest ally robs us constantly. I don't know what to do. And like I told Ian, I said, "I'm, I am confused and lost because every single member of Congress in the Senate and the President is in the pocket of these people. They have the media, they have our Congress, they have our judges, they have everything. I'm confused at how anybody who's seen this can't just say, 'Goddamn, everything, all of it!'"

Speaker 4You can't watch Netflix, you can't watch it, everything, literally everything. But people will say, "Well, they don't run it, they don't run America, how?" Everything. They have every congressional seat. Maybe, maybe Rohrabacher will last, I doubt it. He'll get primary next. Maybe, you know, I don't know. I don't know, there's, there's nothing left.

Speaker 4You know, and, and yes, it proved Ian right. It proved, it proved everybody who said these things right. And I hope the common sense kicks in. 'Cause I, I know common sense isn't so common anymore, but people of Kentucky failed America today. The Epstein class won. But on the bright side, Thomas Massey has nothing to lose. And a man who has nothing to lose is dangerous.

Speaker 4I mean, what can you do now? He has nothing to lose. You know, you corner somebody, you know, they may come out, you know, swinging. They may come out with a bomb. Like, there's nothing he can lose now. What do you- Well, they, they, you're right about that, you know, they're willing to do anything. But, you know, Thomas seems like a, like a brave man. You know, I think Kennedy knew that he was playing with fire.

Speaker 4I think Thomas Massey is like, consider this, Thomas Massey was brave enough. To step out, even though he knew every single member of Congress had an APAC, he said it on Tucker Carlson's interview. He said all of them have an APAC handler, an APAC person, an APAC advisor, all of them, all of them. He was the only one. And he was willing, he, he knew that, and he's been very careful 'cause he, I think he does know you're right, they will kill your wife, kill your kids with cancer, whatever they can do. A, a accidental train wreck or accidental car wreck, oh, you know, you got shot by some random person. I think he knows that.

Speaker 4And I think a lot of them know that. I told Ian, they're afraid. Seeing how much money went through the hands of it, they're afraid. They're like, like money is the least of your problems. Like, Charlie Kirk got shot. Yeah? They didn't miss. They seem to, they seem to miss certain people, but they'd be right on target with like people named JFK, even, even though he's a moving target, it's amazing.

Speaker 4You know? It's amazing. I don't, I don't get it. You know? But on the bright side. Charlie has until, well, not Charlie, but I guess the spirit of Charlie Kirk and Thomas Massey and JFK, they have until the 31st of next year. Was it the 3rd? I can't remember the day. It's his last day. But yeah, we got a little bit of time, and in that time, he can do some damage. Now, everyone be afraid, like we're gonna, we gotta face facts, every single person you're gonna see in the House of Congress and Senate is gonna be afraid to lose their seat because of all the money that they steal from lobbying and, and they steal from the American people. They're gonna be afraid to say anything. You're gonna see a bunch of inaction. They're gonna just rubber stamp their Iran war. They're gonna rubber stamp like more money for everything that Trump wants to do, and it's gonna be sad, it's gonna be hard to watch,

Speaker 4and it's gonna be awful. Six dollar gas, seven dollar gas, eight dollar gas. You know, there's no, all eighteen, all eighteen agencies that were in intelligence said that Iran had no nuclear weapons, none. And we're bombing them anyway.

Speaker 4I don't know what to tell you. Israel, Israel, you know, they're gonna, they're gonna convince our people to murder everybody in the Middle East. And that won't be enough. Then it'll be Russia. Then it'll be China. And until we're depleted, until we have- then they'll just go somewhere else to collect, like parasites. But yeah, don't be surprised. I mean, you know that it's gonna get worse. Because there's nothing, there's no brakes now on the train. You know that now. We, we all know that now. But, but here's, but, but just have comfort in knowing you have more common sense than people in Kentucky do. And they, like, I voted for Trump, but at least I have enough common sense to say, "Wait a minute,

Speaker 4you're blocking the Epstein files? The only reason you do that is because you're in 'em, and it ain't good. I'll end with that.

@jameswoody89897Hey,

@jameswoody89897Ian. Ian

@jameswoody898976% of Joe Biden's cabinet being Jewish, et cetera. There's films on there, it's very informational, check it out, gtvflyers dot com. We were told that we were passing out conspiratory pamphlets, it was so conspiratorial that Ron DeSantis decided to fly to Israel with Mike Cruso, who's married to a Jew, and Randy Fine, who's a Jewish gangster from, Las Vegas who runs, you know, seats in, Florida. Now, they flew to Israel to pass this bill to make our conspiracy theorists flyers of Jews controlling A five year felony for one flyer, okay? So just a heads up, guys, you don't have free speech. I'm the canary in the coal mine. I did thirty days in jail with, with a clean record for attempted littering. Now, on top of that, you think it's bad with Massey, there's forty members in the Florida Senate. This bill, HB one eight, HB two six nine, passed unanimously. I repeat, unanimously, okay, forty people in the Florida Senate passed that bill to take away free speech of Americans who are simply distributing flyers, no threats, no antics, simply just dropping it off like a newspaper. Now, with the Charlie Kirk thing, be aware, don't trust the Jewish media. That wasn't a thirty-eight six, I use firearms. That, that, that's a lie. Now, why they, why did they frame it for, a tranny or, excuse me, whatever, LGBT? EQ supporter, well, guess what? The reason why they're pushing on that so you stay in the right and left paradigm. If we were to think outside the right and left paradigm and go, "Hm, sounds like a patsy, maybe he was texting boys, maybe he's taking a fall so he can stay alive in jail and he's not gonna get killed for being a pedophile in jail." Okay, that's more realistic because if we learn that our government did it, our Jewish occupied government did it, then we all go, "Hm, it's not a left problem, it

@jameswoody89897Our government. Now, I will push back because I'd agree with all what you guys are saying, that our government is opening up borders, it's poisoning our kids with pharmaceuticals, it's also teaching them to do degenerate stuff, be furries, you know, it's really anti-white on top of that. So I would say that our government, by show of thumbs, thumbs up, is it tyrannical yet? How tyrannical is it? Down thumbs if it's, if it's not tyrannical. Now, Nick Fuentes is America first? He can't even describe what an American is. And also, these American rights that we have kind of go against this whole-- I, I'm not gonna slam it too hard, but turn the other cheek, forgive your enemy, pray for, you know, the meek shall inherit the earth, that is anti-American. Now, we have a tyr

@jameswoody89897As Americans, and Ian's gonna countersign me, I'm gonna be very careful how I word this. It's tyrannical. There's

Ian Malcolma specific, like, just no invocation of, of violence.

@jameswoody89897Yeah. Yeah. So I'm just gonna say, guys, they don't fear A thousand, ten thousand white guys down at the, at the courtroom of Chud the Builder, right? Ten thousand, fuck, freaking a hundred thousand white people down there. Free Chud, free Chud, get him out of here, this is injustice. You know why? 'Cause a hundred thousand white people will go home without breaking a fucking window. That's why. That's why, 'cause we are scared. We're, we, we are scared to do anything. We're scared to get upset. Alright? We just wanna behave. We just wanna be civilized, while they're importing uncivilized people to our country, and we're just gonna sit here and go, "Well, I guess we're gonna vote our way out of this." Our forefathers didn't say, "Vote your way out of this," "Infiltrate the government," "Pray harder," or anything like that. They said, "Look, we're giving you this option to

@jameswoody89897Outside the box of politi-politics that are cooked and bought by the Jewish banks that control this country, we are destined to die. That's it.

Speaker 5HT, if you can, look down in the purple pill for the demographic breakdown of the voters. I, I don't believe the election was held fairly. I'm sorry, I'm, I'm speculating here. I'm a J6er, so I'm definitely, you know, very prone to believe that elections can be tilted, but it does seem that the, fifty-six years old and above The crowd was predominantly for this Eddie Galrain, and literally bought into the, to the Trump's directive to, vote Massey out, just FYI.

@jameswoody89897And Trump is a traitor, guys. He, he pushed Operation Warp Speed, which has killed many elderly people and harmed a lot of young people, athletes dying on the field. This was a vaccine that, that would take ten years to develop, he rushed it out. He is a traitor. Trump is a damn traitor. There's no trust in this guy. His role, his, his, His mentor was Roy Cohn, a Jewish homosexual lawyer who was probably diddling kids. His dad was building synagogues for Jews. He is a big piece of poop, okay? So screw Donald Trump, screw the politics, get dangerous as a, as a white person or whatever you are, join up with your people, and, and get--

@jameswoody89897Let's, let's

Ian Malcolmjust caveat the, the dangerous piece, I'm sure that's- Get dangerous intellectually. Get dangerous,

@jameswoody89897be smart, be sober. Get sober, don't let them poison you with drugs, marijuana or pharmaceuticals. Pharmaceuticals, and thank you for having me on.

Ian MalcolmYeah, no, and, and, H, just curious for your thoughts on that one, because there's a lot of different chemicals people are taking that are legal and, and otherwise, and, and I think almost all of them, right? If it's pushed by either pop culture or your doctor, almost all of them are poison for your mind, either make you, more lethargic, to increase your cancer, to do anything to reduce your, your masculinity. Just kinda curious for your thoughts

@jameswoody89897well, here's the truth, man. I mean, I get trolled all the time, you know, they call me "H-ditties." I took a, a drug when I was, thirteen years old. It was called, God, I'm forgetting the name of it, Risperdal. It was for bipolar kids, kids that don't follow directions, right? they're a little bit, impulsive, they don't like, you know, they don't really do well with authority, so they drug 'em. So,

@jameswoody89897Right? And there was a seven billion dollar class action lawsuit with Johnson and Johnson, one of the big vaccine companies. So you think if I was gonna take that vaccine after getting gynecomastia, male breast tissue? Yeah, I'm totally against it because, I mean, these- Who knows what's in that? I mean, to think about that, like neutering someone's mind and then having a male develop, some sort of breast tissue in them, it's, it's absurd. And we see what's going on with the painkillers, that they're pushing in, you would say Kentucky, the coal mine area, all these poor guys in West Virginia, they're all hooked on heroin and methamphetamines. Our people are sick. They pushed that gosh darn pharmaceuticals on whites just like they pushed the damn crack on the blacks. So yeah, stay away from the big Jewish pharmaceuticals, the Cessuti families, and, and, you know, they're, they're all poison.

Ian MalcolmYeah, I totally agree with you on, on that one. And, and Ford is worth also on, and I'm, I'm curious for Dr. Rechtman's thoughts on this. Right? The, the brewing powder keg as more and more people start to become disillusioned with the political system, seeing people like Massey potentially not just voted out, but perhaps, due to polling systems that are maybe not, entirely sincere. And, and Dr. Eckenmold, I'm curious for your thought and kind of the Azapac position on how do we balance the two of getting people to, to, to, to be aware of what's going on, to obviously be emotionally furious as to the, the, comp- The comprehensive nature of the subversion, but also to, to be able to ensure that we keep them aligned in a way that's productive, that is righteous, that is noble, and that is lawful, so that we avoid some of the prospective fireworks that might otherwise, arise out of those tensions.

Speaker 3Yeah, that's a great, question. Now, where did the, where did he go? The guy that was just speaking, he's gone. Is he, is he gone? I was hoping he had stayed around, because I, I wanted to say a couple things to him. I thought what he had to say was very interesting. you know, the-- and I was looking on his profile, and it's interesting about what he said, you know, that, you know, I had the, a piece in my, novel, Cabal Question,

Speaker 3As a Jewish side, you know? So that's just not something I haven't, you know, heard before. Anyway,

Ian Malcolmso, no, and, and Dr. Reckeweg, I'll, I'll put, one of his posts up into the nest, so, I know, handsome truth, as he goes, he, he's kind of a viral, very colorful, animated character, and I, I, I just wanna say I really appreciate the, the tenor and the tone that he brought to the, the space I think that all of the different voices and flavors of these conversations are of extreme benefit, and he was out there, years ahead of his time, passing out flyers and, and trying to bring attention to these issues.

Ian Malcolmbut, so I just wanna thank him for that, but, but he does go down that, that path, and it's one that we divide on, and, and that's totally fine, right? Yeah. But the, the idea of, of Christ being sincere or- Oh, that one, yeah.

Speaker 3And the other one

@joann_marieI wanted to mention, Use them a lot. So yeah, like you say what you will about handsome, but he does have like amazing flyers. Sorry, go for it. Yeah, the

Speaker 3other thing that was talked about was kind of like the, the question about politics, the political question. And whether, you know, there's any value at all to anything like electoral politics at all anymore, which raises the question like something about asapac, does asapac have a real function and do we have a role? Well, here's what I think about the political process. It isn't just a political process, it is a symbolic process and it is cultural. It makes waves. Politics can be very influential and can become culture, it can become culture itself. So what I'm getting at here is that we get enough people focused on,

Speaker 3it's, it's not just, it's not just that they're focused on the political ends of getting somebody elected, but they're, they're focused on a movement that overrides the enemy altogether. And that doesn't mean that you don't do some other things like vote. this, they wouldn't, they wouldn't be putting thirty-two million dollars into a single district in Kentucky

Speaker 3if they didn't want that seat And they wouldn't put all this money and, and time and, effort, they wouldn't have the president tweeting five, six, seven times a day against this guy if it didn't matter. So it obviously does matter. The question is, the problem is the game's rigged. We know that. They've rigged it tremendously in their favor.

Speaker 3they rigged it starting with, Citizens United in 2010 in particular, which allowed unlimited PAC expenditures. Okay. That was done by a, a Zionist law firm that, that, that won that case. That was all done for, for Israel, quote unquote. The whole thing, Citizens United, which allowed unlimited cash donations by individuals and corporations and unions, and unlimited expenditures by the PAC, by Super PACs.

Speaker 3Then that firm that argued that case, whose name escapes me right now, they are also arguing against anti-BDS legislation. They're arguing against the people that oppose BDS. So they take both sides of this, they talk out of both sides of their mouths. One is that, you know, Citizens United was argued on the basis of so-called free speech. Spending money was considered expression, okay? So,

Speaker 3then, then the, the anti-BDS movement is of course expression as well. It's the expression of not spending money. I don't wanna, I wanna boycott Israel or any com-company or affiliate of Israel, period. It should be a perfectly legal thing. Well, it's, you know, it's, you know, banned effectively in thirty-eight states in the United States. That's how bad it is. I mean, they-- you can, you can boycott them, but if you try to get a contract with the state, you can't get it. So they can ruin you for, boycotting Israel. so it's unbelievable. So anyway, the point being,

Speaker 3the political process isn't just itself, it, it is, it is more than, than it is, it has more meaning than, than the electoral system itself. It could, it could help build the movement That becomes parapolitical really, more than superpolitical really. Anyway, we, we do have to, we do have to take action, and I don't think that voting and other actions are really,

Speaker 3you know, in contradiction with each other necessarily.

Speaker 6By the way, yeah. Sorry, I was just- By the way, that- I support you. One second. By the way, that was Gibson, Dunn and Crutcher, who argued both cases. Over.

Speaker 5Yeah, just to say, Mike, I support you. regardless of what we may think of voting, we still have to stay actively involved, and like you said, it's not like we can't do two things at the same time, alternative measures and keep voting, 100%.

Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, I'd love to see nothing but like effectively the United States citizenry taking over the White House, the Capitol building, without violence, and just occupying and say, "You're done, get out of here," ejecting all the Zionist Jews out of the government and all of their backers and all of them out. I would love to see that

Speaker 5happen. but J-J-J6 2.0 done right, how about that?

Speaker 3Yeah, exactly.

Ian MalcolmWell, and it is curious, Dr. Ector, well, I kinda feel like this is the Ali Akhter Est, moment for APAC, who just put up a post basically saying, "Yeah, we got another one," and, congratulating, Thomas Massey's Contender. And, I, I say that because it feels like they're going all in, right? And, and, and we've noticed these patterns, this aversion of everything from TikTok now to Thomas Massey seat. It feels like they are just grabbing at everything, and they're also simultaneously, Dr. Rexton-Wald, they're now putting forward, and I don't know if you saw this one, if, if you were in here when I mentioned it, but the fifteen cities that they are now going to roll out anti-semitism task force, And basically try to bridge build, between all religions and, and the Jewish people, across the United States. It, it, it feels like it's a full court press and- Looks like, looks like Lucas

Speaker 3Gage might have a, a real big career here. I mean It's, it looks like he's gonna have, he's gonna have a windfall. I'm like, oh my god.

Ian MalcolmYou look at all the doctor Ectwald. Can you imagine if it's, if it's Ben Shapiro and Lucas Gage in one of those motorcycle and the little buggy that sits on the side of it, coming, coming in with their yarmulkes on, ready. Wait a minute, wait a minute,

Speaker 3he's a philosopher now. Come on now, he's a philosopher. Lucas Gage, yeah, beating, you know, he doesn't

@joann_marieI love Dr. Michael so much.

Ian MalcolmYeah, we've got, Lucas Page and Ben Shapiro tossing out their bucks. Hey guys, can we read about the Jews? Oh, it's all so- I'm so

Speaker 6sorry, I just had the wrong idea. These were wrong ideas I had. I shouldn't have had different thoughts. Excuse me. Now let's build some bridges with those we've harmed. These poor people, these poor souls. We must do that, but love them. We must love them like we love everyone. Now listen,

Speaker 3I'd love everyone, but listen, I don't love Actions, and I don't like actions that create harm for other people, and that's what I see happening from this particular group, so that's why, and, yeah, and obviously I'm not in this for the money, because look, if you wanna be in, in the money, you wanna go the other way, you wanna get on the other side. Obviously that's what's happened too. So look at this, this is they're buying off our people all the way, they're buying off seats, they're buying off people, it's incredible.

Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And, and, so, so we'll, we'll continue, kind of getting some thoughts here and, and, very curious for, I know Donna's got her hand up, so why don't we go there? And, and then we'll go over to, Captain Surf and, check in with him on, on his thoughts on the Thomas Maas issue.

Speaker 7Thank you. I didn't, can you hear me? You have double,

@joann_marieDonna.

Speaker 7Yeah, can you hear me? Oh yeah, you're back.

@joann_marieI'm, I look like I'm muted. Am I back now? No, you're still breaking up a little bit. No.

Ian MalcolmWe, I think we can hear you, Donna.

Speaker 7You in the room at all?

Ian Malcolmnobody is muted.

Speaker 7Okay. Can,

Speaker 7As, as, as soon as, as soon as the results came out, my curious mind went straight to Brave AI and asked, "Can those US-Israeli citizens living in Israel with an add-address in the United States vote in, congressional primary elections?" "Yes, they can."

Speaker 7then I asked, how long, you know, do you have to be in the district? Like, how long do you register before the election? What happens May 20th? I could have registered by May 20th and voted in this primary. How many eligible dual citizens in Israel? 'Cause you can live in Israel. Okay? are there? Well, we don't have an exact number, but somewhere around 133,000.

Speaker 7And then I asked how many registered voters there were in Kentucky and, how many new registrations were there in the last year, and in the last year there were 10,000.

Speaker 7So I say, "Okay." Everybody wants to let go, okay? Kentucky people are fucking stupid, they watch Fox News. But when I look at it, when you watched his story, remember he put his story up, Thomas Massey, about how he came along and he wound up like mayor of the town, 'cause he like fixed something himself rather than bring in like some big old company to do shit. I mean, he is on a grand level familiar with these people that put him in office. And that's why he got seventy-six percent of the vote in the past.

Speaker 7So I don't think that Trump's gonna sway all those people. He may sway some that are maybe Jewish. But where would, where would you like, you're gonna throw thirty-two million dollars, you wanna make sure you win. You know? I remember for the, presidential campaign, that the Democrats went over to Israel to campaign and to get, 'cause get this,

Speaker 7you can be Jewish, marry an American, the two of you can move to Israel and have a child, and that child has dual citizenship, and as soon as they turn eighteen, you can register them to vote, and their vote comes through the, through the embassy.

Speaker 7And so, not only their money, but they get to vote in our fucking country, and they don't even have to fucking live here. And, you know what? The, the reason my hand kept going up is 'cause I thought I was gonna explode holding this in. because I literally went through the steps and asked the questions, and I can't prove it. You know what I mean? I can't prove it, but it's right there. So I, I, I want to further bring attention to Michael, that Alexander Trader Vindman is running for governor in Florida or Senate, Senate in Florida. And his brother Eugene already has a seat in Virginia, and he's running as an incumbent. They're both Ukrainian Jews that help Boozy, Maiden Revolution with Victoria Newlin. This is the kind of people that are getting put in office.

Speaker 7And I'm, I'm just telling you that I think it's more than, you know, just stupid, you know, Fox News gaslighting people. Those people in Kentucky knew Thomas Massey on a ground level. And, and now that I've calmed down, I'll seize the mic.

Speaker 3What do you think? Do you think that, he, that, that it was stolen effectively, or they flooded the zone with all these illegal voters, or what do you think? Or not illegal, but-

Speaker 7It's for them to do it. It's, no, it's legal for them to do it. I mean, I mean, if, if you live in one state and, you know, Maybe there's an election that's so important, maybe your brother runs for office in another state, you move to that state, and you register, and you can vote for your brother. Well, it's the same thing with these doors. Doesn't anybody have to do is give an address in a city. They're all related, aren't they? Remember that, that one, that Aladdin, what's his name, who used to come into this space?

Speaker 7Do you know what I'm talking about? Ian.

Ian MalcolmWhich one?

Speaker 7A wasn't his name Alab or something. Oh,

Ian Malcolmyes, A-L-A-B, the, the lawyer who, simultaneously walked into the idea that supremacy is good, but not when it's not Jews, but supremacy's not happening, but it is. I think that's how that went.

Speaker 7Well, no, his thing was, well, you know, everybody takes care of their family. And, and, and I'm like, okay, yeah, you have your mom, your dad, your kids, but as far as Jews, all Jews are their family. And that's what he was telling us. And that's why they lend each other money without interest. It doesn't have to be their brother-in-law. That's

Ian Malcolmright. And he said that it wasn't, it wasn't discrimination when they discriminated against everybody that wasn't part of their extended family because they were doing it on religious grounds. That was, that was essentially the justification, just more pilpul.

Speaker 3And they also, you know, they, they can kill you because it's said they did it before. And they could therefore do it again, and, they did it with God's, direction, under His direction and, at His behest. So, you know, they're always righteous in slaughtering their, their neighbors. This seems to be the, the theme. it's like they do it. You know what

Speaker 7I'm- You know, you know what I'm praying for?

Speaker 7I'm praying when they have their

Speaker 7which is just a sad, sad

@joann_marieThank you so much, Donna. And don't they have, they also have those machines that may or may not, like, may o-o-other people vote? You know, like, you know which ones I'm talking about? I don't

Speaker 6think

Speaker 5they have Dominion. Yeah, I don't think they have Dominion, but they do have electronic voting, and regardless, they are manipulative, in terms of from outside interference. So unless we, we have a thorough system of, of literally where you're getting a printed ballot, there's kind of receipts that you can count and match to what goes on the electronic version, you can, you can tilt the scale there. So, a Massey vote is like point six five of what a, a, Gawain vote is, you know, being one So just keep that in mind.

Speaker 3Yeah, and it's, there's all kind of Israeli tech firms that could be, that are qualified to hack into these, this system easily. So, I mean, that's their biggest export is basically spyware and others, and surveillance technology. Hey, thanks so much. We really, we, this, this must be the blessings we get, for blessing you with your extorted money.

Speaker 5Thank you.

@joann_marieAnd thank you so much for coming up, Donna. Alright, Gail, Lives Matter, welcome, go for it.

Speaker 8hi, I'm not from America, actually. I live in London, and personally, I've invested a lot of emotion in this issue, and it's a really devastating night for me, so you know, I just can't fall asleep with like half us, or half us four now in the UK, so, but what I would say is like, You know, my, I'm particularly worried about without Thomas Massey, who is going to advocate for the justice to the victim of the Epstein, those Jewish pedophile, actually that was my main concern. And, but, actually, I, I feel like the Jews what they're doing is like they throw thirty-two million dollars into this single race, and, what they are doing regardless whether they win the election or not. That's, I mean, they basically no longer hiding anymore. They're basically sending a message to all of us, regardless your, what, what your gender is, it's like the Jews basically are sending a message, which is we run the show, and if you want to resist, you will be crushed. That is what the Jews are sending us tonight, that is their message. So, you know, it is very black-pelting today, and it does seem very hope, hopeless.

Speaker 8but we can't be hopeless. Because we have a future to save, we all want a future for our children. And you know, I, I'm 24 years old, so actually I'm always considering like, you know, should I actually have children? I don't know, because if you have children, like, the Jews can just kidnap your children and send to the pedophile island, and you won't have no justice. But still, I mean, we should fight for that. And, You know, because I would say like during the past three years, when Jews started genociding the Palestinians in Gaza, people have been waking up. I mean, the great noticing first started in the United States, and then it spread across the, the ocean to the UK. I can feel that More and more young people in England have started noticing, especially on the right wing side, because we used to focus more about the Muslim grooming gang, but gradually we realized who are the one who responsible for this kind of, mass migration or whatever, this anti-white agenda is Jews You know, we started to realize that, and a lot of people in the UK started to question the narrative like Tommy Robinson was actually spreading. And, I think Thomas Massey from a political, from a political point of view, like he was like a symbol of the resistance, and that is why the Jews, for-- I mean, for whatever it takes, the Jews want to take it out. And, but I think like we should s- continue to spread the message. Because in the past, I was a little bit, you know, in my private life, I was very cautious about, should I acknowledge the people around me about the Jewish problem? But I started to, you know, do some small trials from the people around me, and to my surprise, there are far more people than I expected that are aware of the Jewish problem, and people are all afraid to speak out. And I think, you know, beca- and I think that- Mentality should end. We should speak out, you know. It's not hateful. It's not like we hate you because you're a Jew, Jewish, or you were born Jewish. We oppose you because you consider all of us as going cattle, and that you can kill, you can rape, you can enslave, you don't treat us as human. And in such case, according to your agenda, your, in your religion, it's eye to an eye right, so we'll do the same to you. Yeah.

Ian MalcolmNo, and that, and that's, it, it's always worth noting that, right? Especially for people that, perhaps you, you accidentally meandered your way into this room, which is, unfortunately pretty difficult to do, 'cause I, I think eggs hide them. But nonetheless, if you did, right? You probably come into these conversations and you think to yourself, "Why are these people talking about Jews? What's going on?" and, and trust me, I can appreciate that it, it's, it's an uncomfortable word to even have in

Ian MalcolmLooking around and you say, "Wow, look at all these, look at all these people in power." It's, it's the word that has to be utilized, right? And it has nothing to do with hating anybody based on either the genetics, the religion, or the culture. I, I, I suppose there's parts of the Talmud that I certainly think are, are grotesque, right? But even that, like, to a religion, it's own, as long as it's not infringing upon other people. But to your point, when that religion teaches them that they have

Ian Malcolmthemselves, but when they then act on it, it's perfectly reasonable for me to say, "I hate the idea of you trying to enslave everybody." And yet they will, they will react in, in horror, "How dare you?" You know, the, the, the, the arrogance of you to say that we cannot enslave your mind and your body, it's really wild, right? And, and so this has nothing to do with aiding anybody. Very well stated.

Speaker 3It's a measure of an anti-Semite really, if you, if you don't wanna be enslaved,

Speaker 8Yeah, actually when people say, "Why are you so anti-Semitic?" I'm gonna say, "If being pro-humanity means being an anti-Semite, then I will wear it as a badge of honor." Yeah, I am a proud anti-Semite, if that is what you mean.

@joann_marieAnd they don't see us as humans, so that's why they're like, "Oh my God, how dare he?"

Ian MalcolmHow dare you think yourself, able to speak out against our enslavement of everything that you love? Yeah, yeah. And I'm so,

Speaker 3I'm so sorry that I thought you were a supremacist. I am sorry that I thought you were trying to dominate me while doing so. I'm sorry.

Ian MalcolmYeah, and, and, and speaking of, dominating, a individual that dominates a, a number of different topics, we were going back and forth, and, and because of all the chaos with Massey. schedules kinda got a little bit jumbled, but, I wanna welcome Mr. Witset to the, to the panel here. Always, love some of the, the thoughts and takes, and, and I know you took-- Speaking of takes, I know you took a little bit of a break from some of the podcasting work that you've been doing, but obviously have a very, very large following, so very, very humbled that you, you took a little bit of time to, to hop in with us. And, Mr. Witset With everything going on with Thomas Massey and, and would love to kind of give you the floor and, and get some of your thoughts on all the current events of the day, whether it's on the political landscape or anything else that's top of mind for you.

Speaker 9so it's looping, it's looping you through echo, so I'm

Ian Malcolmgonna

Speaker 9pop back up. Oh,

Ian Malcolmokay. Alright, speaking of the supremacy system, they have, they've taken the reins of this one as well. But, while we get him up here, let's go to, to Doctor Strange and, see a number of other very familiar, wonderful faces in the panel, including Andy and, Mr. David Nixey. Very excited to get him up here as well. So we'll rotate through, up, there we go. So let's jump right to Mr. Whittier and then we'll come back to Doctor Strange.

Speaker 9Yo, what's We're playing at the same time, the delay, it was wild. it's been a minute, man. How, how you been?

Ian MalcolmOh, it's been, But so, what's- I'm curious because you've always been an individual that's been out on some, some curious limbs that, you know, some people see us a little bit thinner than others, whether it's your worldview on the world, I suppose, but also you've always been very, very direct about Jewish supremacy, been talking about this issue, and it's curious because I feel like

Ian MalcolmFar extremes of conspiracy land with this one. I think James Wood earlier, he said it's kind of like Ian and his, his little JQ squad have been saying for a long time that Bigfoot exists, and everybody was like, "No, no, no, no, no." And right on New Year's, in the middle of Times Square, Bigfoot just shows up, and everybody's still trying to pretend that we don't see what's happening. And so I, I feel like the Jewish supremacy issue is finally now, with Thomas Massey especially, right? thirty-two million

Ian MalcolmMoney coming in to make sure they remove him from office, being the only guy that speaks out against this system. I, I feel like we've finally gone from the fringes to maybe a little bit less than fringe. I don't know what I'd define it as, but, but curious for your thoughts.

Speaker 9so, I, I don't know, man. Maybe don't have a popular take on that because it's kind of almost suspicious. I, I don't, I don't know if I'd say it's suspicious, right? 'Cause obviously we've been, a lot of us have kind of been in the trenches. So a lot of people woke up October, there's a lot of people that were awake to this long before October, right? And, I mean, I, I just had a bank account shut down. I don't really know that

Speaker 9the, Is Oprah with, so that makes me think it's kind of legitimate, but I guess to not get all over the place, it does seem like it is being infiltrated, used to an extent. I, I can't really see any other way that this would be occurring. I don't know if you, what your take on that is, right? But like, there had to be some degree of allowing this to occur, right? Like even with X itself,

Speaker 9It's just a super suspicious timing, right? Like X comes out and it's-- and I've been saying this for a couple years, everyone's able to start talking about this, and then October seventh happens and everyone is just screaming basically like an ethnic cleansing. So I, I don't know what the end goal there is. I would say this, I think that people, I think it comes with a lot of responsibility now that it's kind of the overton window has shifted.

Speaker 9I know, for example, like Florenta's got a lot of kickback basically saying, not to really talk about the JQ as much anymore, and I don't agree with that take, but I understand maybe the underlying sentiment, which is it's, it's almost getting to the point where you're not gonna be taken seriously And let you kind of come correct, right? And I, I think that that is being used. I think that,

Speaker 9basically, I guess this is like kind of maybe the ninth inning, and if you don't really like step up, your arguments and, you know, the way you're gonna present yourself kind of refined, they're going to use that for a major push. For censorship. This is what I think, right? Like, I- So

Speaker 10stop talking or they're gonna censor us?

Speaker 9No, no, no, no, don't stop talking. Be, be articulate and refined with the way that you present the information, right? What about

Speaker 10Jewish supremacists? Is it okay if I call them out as Jewish supremacists?

Speaker 9Yeah, of course. Did you hear where he said I've been doing that for years?

Speaker 10Okay, okay.

Speaker 9Yeah, okay. So, but the point is, right? Like, just not having like, an articulate position that's founded with, substantive information, like substance and specificity, et cetera, kind of like fulfilling the unhinged caricature, they are going to spotlight that. I mean, it's just super naive to think that we've just solely grassroots finally brought it up, Brad. There's a huge part of that, but I'm just saying, this is my take, everyone can disagree, whatever. I just think that they're going To utilize this some way, that's just what they do, right? They're, they're extremely, al-albeit, I would say evil. Like, they are intelligent, they're very subversive, they're, they're very meticulous. So they're gonna utilize this, whatever way they can, and the way they're gonna do it, in my opinion, is to push towards censorship, right? And so that, I, I don't know if you guys think it's fully organic, I just don't necessarily see that being the case. I don't, 'cause again,

Speaker 9Right? I, I, I've been debanked multiple times. So until someone's been like through it for years and been debanked, like, been fired, had multiple jobs removed, like, just had one fall through because of it, like, kicked off of everything, right? I mean, now a bunch of people are coming through after October seventh and on X, and they can talk about it, so it's cool, you know, it's all kind of cool and fun and games or whatever, but-

Speaker 9I, I just am weary of what's going on. For example, Thomas Massey never even truly highlighted, lighted the JQ at all, right? And he kind of is now. I'm not saying I'm suspicious of him necessarily, it's just like the Overton Window has shifted so much, we would have, we would be very naive to think that they're just gonna sit there and take it. And so what I, to boil down what I'm saying is, I think this is a very important moment for people to kind of come correct, not to justify the- And swinging the, the hammer back the other way, does that make sense? Like, we've seen it with like anti-PBS laws and then, then, the defining anti-semitism, they're already kind of laying the groundwork of that, and they're doing that in the conservative state, which, which is the states you would obviously-- that would be the most difficult states to do it, right? Dictation of speech laws is obviously gonna fly with the left, right? They're, they're all about hate speech, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Getting conservatives states to put that

Speaker 9Significant. So that's, that's what I think of this whole thing. I think that, obviously it's beautiful to see the overt window finally shift, and I just think that we should be very on point, right? Very on point because they are going to try to swoop in, maybe with some false flags, maybe with some limited hangouts, maybe with some infiltrated, characters, whatever, and hit us with some form of dictation of speech, right? And, and that is, I think we've kind of gotten, A little bit spoiled, and it was just a handful of years ago where you literally couldn't even talk about, you couldn't even like say the word vaccine unless you were praising it without being kicked off of everything, right? So,

Speaker 9yeah, that's kind of my take, and I don't, I don't know what your take on that is, Ian, but I, I do foresee some type of, artificial- Hegelian dialectic to lead towards some type of dictation of speech. If they don't, as we see right now, there's really no putting it back in the back. So it's not really like they're gonna come out and start having like mainstream debates about the JQ, okay? That's never gonna happen, okay? You can't debate that topic, right? You can't debate it. So just like someone can't legitimately debate Israel, and if they're actually like a, a geopolitical ally or whatever, right? They have to censor it. It's similar to the COVID fiasco Legitimately debate it, and with kind of how out in the open it is now, I would imagine that you're gonna see a huge push for some type of like totalitarian, dictation of speech, and I would think Trump will be the one to do that. And then that gets into a bunch of, you know, subsequent speculation as to whether or not that guy even leaves, you know, or, or, you know, I, I don't even think he intends on leaving office, so

Speaker 9You know, yeah, anyway, that was a lot, but that, that's kind of my take there. So I, I'm not like popping champagne bottles, is all I'm saying.

Ian MalcolmNo, and, and for what it's worth, that one of the comments there, and, I, I always love, David Nietzsche, and, and he and I, I think see the eye, eye to eye as much as I do with, most of Truth Teller, and, and his kind of worldviews. And so I'm glad that he jumped in with I love that term, Winston, I'm gonna be curious for your thoughts on this one, of Jewish supremacy specifically, right? It's not Jews bad, it's not Israel bad, although I would actually make that claim as well, but it is that Jewish supremacy, the idea that there's a group of people that are entitled to rule over everybody, that are allowed to genocide people, that are allowed to pass laws saying you can't criticize us, all the other things, right? That that is bad. And to your point, when people put a spotlight on it, it's pretty impossible to argue that that Like you're saying, antisemitism, kind of, speech laws, right? And so I do think a comment that you made in there, and it's a very valid one, is that we need to be very on point with these subject matters and, and kind of the topics that get wrapped into them, and it's a lot because it's the political aspect, it's the control of the commercial sector, it's the control of the textbooks and the history and how we understand it, right? And so I, I absolutely can appreciate the people that might know these subjects kind of superficially And I wink, wink, nudge, nudge, I'm pointing at you, Candace Owens, right? Very early on in this, she went out and said, "Oh, it's the Jews," and then it's the Khazars, and it's all this other stuff. And the next thing she knew, she had kind of wrapped herself into a story where she had the shell of it, but the moment anybody kind of poked at it, it all fell apart. And it made everything look very,

Ian Malcolmit kind of falls flat. Right? It makes it look like all of the things that she's suggesting that they're, they're just, nothing but maybe slurs that are baseless. And so I do think it's very valid to say that people, if they're gonna talk about these subject matters, they really need to know them inside and out, just like frankly we did when, when we talked about COVID, right? And a lot of people would say, "Hey, the vac-- the vaccine's bad," and if you were gonna take that position, you had to know a litany of reasons why it

Ian MalcolmOf, of, of kind of where you're trying to take this or, or that might maybe miss- Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 9that's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, like cancer zones is a perfect example, right? I, I, I think there's two, there's two trains of thought here, right? A lot of people are like, "Nah, dude, who cares? Everyone raising awareness to it is beneficial." I don't agree with that, right? I, I don't even agree with this whole like, "All publicity is good publicity" notion in really any regard. Maybe

Speaker 9Education is extremely important. I, I know this because as you say, I hold a position that will be considered fringe, right? And of course, over the last few years, they've become less, less so that, but you only have a couple minutes sometimes, right? You, you have like, it, there, there's so much to it, like you said, there's so much information if you're talking about just Israel alone, much less like the specific disproportionate representation of Jewish supremacists, right? Like,

Speaker 9there's- So much information that you have to be very tactical about kind of what you lead with, because you're not gonna give a fair, get a fair shot, right? Like, like in a debate, for example, you're gonna have a moderator that's biased against you, if he's gonna allow the person interrupt you, you're gonna end up being debated two v one, et cetera, et cetera. And you just have to like prepare for that. I'm just saying from, from experience, if, if we are now kind of shifting the over to window, they're gonna have

Speaker 9to Up there to have that discussion similar to kind of Candace Owens talking about it, and like, and I'll say like, I, I know, her, her producer, right? As far, as far as I can tell, she's like, she legitimately is like a mom that goes and, you know, podcasts or whatever. I'm not saying it's some conspiracy, I'm just saying that she maybe wasn't equipped to start talking about that subject when she did, right? And, I'll leave it there. Some people may think she's controlled, doesn't matter, same

Speaker 9An example, right? Like Jewish supremacy, that is probably kind of the best phrase to, to summarize the situation. And then one, there, there are a few very simple tactics that can be used to articulate that position that are irrefutable, right? Like even if you just point out, like, you can, what they'll try to do, when they're calling you anti-Semitic, what are they saying? They're basically saying that you're racist, okay? That's what they're trying to say. They're trying to say that you're racist against Jews, that's basically right. So you just lead with the, with your position being, I disavow ethnic supremacy, and so, you know, Judaism having an ideology of being literally distinct and chosen, therefore superior, therefore other people are inferior, and so rules don't apply equally. I disavow ethnic supremacy. If that's all you say from the jump of the conversation is that your main gripe is that you're disavowing ethnic supremacy, specifically Jewish supremacy, what can they say? If they respond by calling you antisemitic? They're retarded. You're like, wait, I'm racist because I'm disavowing racism, right? Do you get my point? And obviously, I know that people love to throw the word "racist" around and it's super gay, and I'm all about like people, you know, being proud of who they are and group preference, et cetera. That's not really-- don't, please don't misconstrue that. But that's just a random example of how, with a little bit of preparation and tact and a little bit less emotion-- I'm not talking to anybody So much. We can't control who's gonna be propped up to have the conversation, but it's just like, just what I feel intuitively needs to really be honed in on right now is people being prepared and articulate and not emotional and not flying off the handle if you're given a, a, you know, a moment to kind of discuss this in any, any type of platform. Because, again, in my opinion, Trump, you know, I think Trump was selected specifically by the Jews, and that goes back to before his first term, you know, this was all written And the only reason Biden came in was to have the economy collapse and then be blamed on him, even though Trump obviously did everything that made the economy what it was when Biden was there, right? And Trump put in all the, the infrastructure for him to now swoop in the second term and then build the AI dystopian surveillance system that we're watching take place right now, and then you had him come and get the silver crown of the Messiah, right? They literally gave him the silver crown of the Messiah, that can only go on the head of the Messiah, they gave him the menorah that referred to

Speaker 9And Isaiah, which is a messianic prophecy, and the list goes on and on, obviously, he's, he's turning on the temple coin, blah, blah, blah. So I, I think that, like, the Jews put him in place, and if that's the case, right, then he's going to be the person that's going to prevent them from truly being exposed or even any type of actionable-

Speaker 9you know, resistance. And so that's not really ideal, okay? 'Cause I mean, he's, he's kinda the one running point right now, and again, I don't think he's gonna leave. So, yeah, I guess that's kinda, kinda, my take here is, is we should-- we shouldn't just take any victory laps. That's all I'm saying. We should be like, "Yo, this is cool, we kinda shifted over to window. Now, what's their bigger plan here? The bigger plan is somehow justifying bottling us up

Speaker 9Right into their hands, for example. Right, right into their hands. So that should be overtly disavowed. Because whether, whether you think it's even like the best way to go about it, it's just stupid. It's stupid, right? If you think it's the best way to go, go meet somebody in a warehouse and keep your phones five miles away, and then you go make some regulated militia or whatever, bro, but talking about it publicly is stupid. Because that's what they need. They need people to fly off the handle, make explicit calls to violence, whatever.

Speaker 9Yeah, so anyway, that's kind of my take. I think, I think we're in a really good position as long as we don't kinda drop the ball, like we don't start high-stepping, you know, within the challenge. I don't think we're in high-step territory, I guess is what I'm saying.

Ian MalcolmOh, no, no, no, definitely not. And, and it's a, a, an, an extra little, bonus question here, and I, I, I say this because obviously with some of those fringe ideas that, that,

Ian MalcolmThe kind of flat Earth realm, right? And, and I, I bring this up because that is obviously a, a fringe idea. A lot of people, I'm sure, when you first suggest that to them, they, they kind of roll their eyes or, or maybe chuckle under their breath. but they did the exact same thing when I would say, "I think Jews run the United States," right? And, and so I ask the question because I'm curious, given all the experience you've had discussing that issue, which is kind of taboo in certain circles, what you Matter like this, that obviously, you know, it, it is gonna be controversial, whether it's just the, the data that you bring or, or the way in which you deliver it.

Speaker 9Yeah, see, that's a perfect example. It's a perfect example. So many people run around talking about flat Earth, and they make the idea look so retarded, and actually the phrase in and of itself is, like, actually kind of retarded, like it's a misnomer and a false dichotomy as though it's a shape, although that's a general description of a surface and not

Speaker 9Right? you know, that's just a perfect example. Go to TikTok, and almost everything you hear as someone purporting to be flat earther is retarded and largely easily debunked. And so what people do is they hear that and they're like, "Oh. I was wondering why it was such a big thing, now I real-- now I understand, it's just people that aren't very smart, just repeating things that they don't understand on a platform like TikTok that amplifies it, and then it gets dismissed. That's actually significantly more detrimental than someone taking an, an extra year before they hear about it. Right. Which is kind of my bigger point with the JQ, I think everyone's kind of heard about it, and unfortunately A lot of people have heard about it in that same type of way, where they have now put it back as though they understand the topic, right? You can reach someone much better if they're new to something than if they think they understand it, right? And, and when they hear certain people claiming to be a representation of the JQ and it's represented so poorly, then they're just gonna compartmentalize that incorrectly. So anyway, like what I've learned with that, and similar how I brought up the debate, I, I had to learn You know, the hard way, that I'm not ever gonna go into a debate and have a fair platform with that topic. It's yet to happen. I debated PhD, actually maybe the only time I had a decent conversation was a non moderated conversation with a physics professor. But other than that, I've had conversations with, you know. BA's, plenty of PhDs, you know, astronomy, astrophysics, you know, re-specializing, writing their thesis on relativity, all these things. And there is, is really not even one single debate that I can point to where I was, it was fair. And I don't really expect it to be much different with this conversation. So instead of like kicking and screaming about how it's not fair, you just have to know that going in and then- You know, formulate your attacks accordingly. So then it's like, okay, I have to be very distinct to know what, like, I have to formulate my position and then present it very distinctly. Understand that you're not gonna really be given a fair chance. If you go in there and I'll be thinking that, oh, we're both gonna get to talk the same amount of time, everyone's gonna listen, everything's gonna be fair, that's not gonna happen. And this isn't a debate format, but it's, it's similar for everything, even your back and forth in, in,

Speaker 9They're just chanting at each other. so I would say being succinct and then kind of prioritizing the information. For example, if you wanna point out that Israel isn't really like a, a, an ally, in fact, they're more so an adversary, you know, the USS Liberty probably isn't the best thing to bring up. It, it, it was decades ago,

Speaker 9and since we've now had ongoing relationship with them for decades after that It's just not the thing to lead with, although we all know, clearly they'd sustain attack on us, they obviously knew it, it's ridiculous, it elucidates how they view us. My point is that you may not get a moment to bring up the current issue, right? Because you-- there's so much information and you're not being tactical about you presenting it. So, and that's like almost like a nerdy, autistic point I'm making, I get that, but I just think it's very important, and that's where we are now, that the, that the presentation is actually

Speaker 9thing is to always know the other side's strongest counter argument, right? So, being able to still man the counter position. So whatever point that you think elucidates the issue with Jewish supremacy in the United States currently, put yourself or look, you know, what's the best response you've ever heard for that? What would be the strongest argument against it? And then make sure that you fully understand that and then what the reputation of that is. And, and I, I mean, you know, I guess everyone can have their different opinions. I don't think that anything goes anywhere until there's like a meeting of ideas and it's debated out in like the public square, right? Like I think that's actually how change occurs.

Speaker 9So yeah, 'cause, 'cause when it, with FE specifically, I could go into all kinds of things, right? It's, it's not really as much a positive claim, it's just like, "Yo, what they told us that the Earth is doesn't really add up to physical empirical measurements of the surface. Radius has a specific, necessary curvature rate, you know, here, look, you know, long distance microwave transmission line of sight well above the frequency that could actually refract, don't allow that to be true." So it's like, "I just don't believe your story

Speaker 9with the JQ, we kind of are making a positive, right? We're coming to the table saying like, "Okay, this group of people are overrepresented and have, malevolent intention, right? And via nepotism, and infiltration, and subversion, they are..." Dot, dot, dot, right? I mean, the, the, what they're doing is endless, obviously.

Speaker 9so we have to come with, with the, supportive evidence, right? So it's a little different than FV, in the sense that I'm falsifying a positive claim, in this position, we're kinda like saying, we're saying a positive claim. But anyway, I, I don't wanna get too like, it is, it is almost like autistic, the point I'm making to some people probably, right? It's just very like specific to

Speaker 9debate, Yeah, man, that's what I was say. Also, another big part of it is just accepting, like, not trying to force someone to get it, bro. Like, I don't, I don't go around like Bible thumping flat Earth, bro. You know what I mean? Like, I think that's super lame, and I think, I don't know, actually. I mean, JQ's maybe a little more pressing, someone would say, but if someone's not being, receptive, then there's nothing you can do. There's nothing you can do. So just to re-just to reiterate, kind of the biggest part here is the perfect example or the, it's a perfect analogy of the point I'm making. With flat Earth, go to TikTok, listen to people make the dumbest arguments ever, everyone thinks flat Earth is just automatically retarded. At that point, they default back to the previous position that we

Speaker 9Ball free falling in an ever expanding vacuum of nothingness or whatever, and then they think, "Okay, that's what flat Earth is." When people get on X and they see people just saying, like, "Take out all the Jews," or "Constant violence," or, you know, very vague arguments, what you do is you give someone like Nick Matteo, I don't know if you know who that is, do you know who that is? Nick, Nick Matteo, Matteo,

Speaker 9the guy went kinda viral for like dominating a snicker on a debate about Israel. you give people like that guy like a, an alibi to come in and then just debunk the entire premise, and, I think it just really deters a lot of people more than you would maybe think. I'm supposed to debate that guy actually, this month, this

Ian Malcolmcoming month. Wh-what are you debating on?

Speaker 9Well, that's, that's remains to be determined, actually. I mean, like, he, he's like just everything pro-Israel you can imagine. He's, he's not Jewish, interestingly enough. So, you know, we got a nice little bad boy's coming to the plate, but, he says like, in his debates that he'll have people come on, it's like Israel is our greatest ally, so I, I'm like, okay, I guess if that's what you want to debate. But I think we may actually just have like pretty much the blunt debate about Jewish supremacy, right? That's what I'm trying to get him to do.

Speaker 9So anyway, basically just the issue with Israel, if they're an ally or more so an adversary, and then the issue with, Jewish supremacy, whatever, basically whatever I can get him to, as far as I can get him to go to the topic of the, the, the closest to just straight up, the issue of Jewish supremacy. But I do expect that debate to go very viral. He, I don't know if you've ever seen him, but he's like actually very, he's like very good at debating. So that should be interesting. Maybe Andrew Wilson will moderate it.

Speaker 9So maybe I would be better served just to kinda show, face the points I'm making here, right? And maybe give a decent example of it. Obviously at this point, I gotta, I gotta live up to it, but, yeah. Anyway, kinda, kinda random tangent here, but this, this, this is my take. Like, I stepped away for reasons unrelated to kind of any, anything with my content, and,

Speaker 9I just have this weird feeling, bro. Okay, I have this weird feeling. Correct. And, I just think we need to be on high alert, man. I, I don't, I'm not like a fear guy, but I just like, there is no way they've sat back. This isn't like it happened in a week, man. You know, it's been going on for over two years now, like in pretty much high speed.

Speaker 9They're well aware of it, and so let's just think, let's put ourselves in their shoes. What would you do if you were them, right? Like, well, if you were a group, if, say you were a Jew that was very powerful and you're well aware of what you guys do, and then you're like, "Wait a minute, like the Goyim are kind of waking up," and it starts to get out of control, what would you do? You would, you know, what do you have at your disposal to use to shut them down, and what would you do? Right? Like, would you say, "Oh, well, you know, I think I'm actually right, so let's sit at the table and have good faith debates"? Like, of course not. Of course not. Argue, argue, that's why Charlie Kirk is, is gone, right? So then obviously what they would do is they, what they always do, right, which is, "You're either gonna play our game or we're gonna knock the pieces off And we're gonna make you walk the line that we set, or you're just not gonna be able to exist in the modern world successfully. And,

Speaker 9you know, I, I just, we have a decent amount of people, but you have to kind of, and I'm looking around this room, you still have a decent amount of, anonymous accounts, right? And, and understandably, but, but you get, like, that's the problem. That they still have that much power. They still have so much power that a lot of the people, the biggest accounts talking about it, still have to remain, and I-- and, dude, I don't even blame them because, like I said, I've had the real life consequences of it, right? But, I just expect them to double down that direction. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. So, I'm not even claiming to be the one that has all the answers or, or what we need to do about this, but one thing for sure that

Speaker 9They're bringing them up, perfect, cases of like ex-what they would call extremism, and, and it specifically calls the violence, specifically calls the violence is what they, they, they wanna utilize. So yeah, I don't know, and I will say this, I would like to believe that Americans won't allow it. I would like to believe that, you know, you kinda have the situation with Chud the Builder going on right now, it's a decent little litmus test where it's like

Speaker 9I'd like to believe that Americans will be like, "Look, you get to say whatever you want to say, and they'll, they'll go away from hate speech." But if, America passes hate speech laws, then there will be no longer anywhere in the world that exists that doesn't have a dictation of speech laws, right? Like, we have like no calls to violence, et cetera, et cetera, but- If America doesn't have it, there will now no longer be free speech in the world. If the Jews need to shut down the conversation because they can't have the conversation in good faith, which is obviously the case, they need to somehow find a way, orchestrate a paradigm in America that they can like coax Americans into agreeing to

Speaker 9basically folding on that, folding on our First Amendment. And in my opinion, that's actually the biggest thing going on right now, right? Like the biggest- Threat, the biggest next move, the biggest next battle, if you will, is, is they're going to try to find a way to shut down the conversation again, and we need to think about it. And it may be very creative, and maybe it's a second pandemic, and they censor everyone that says anything, you know, and they claim it's medical misinformation because we're gonna die. Maybe, who, who knows what they use? I don't know. And I'm open to what everyone thinks about that, but like, in my opinion, if they don't do that, they're Right? Because, 'cause like people have adapted to censorship, they've still tracked down the, the accounts that they wanna listen to. Like they, you know, people get, unsubscribed from me a lot or un-- you know, turn the notifications off a lot. Well, they just keep going back and turning them back on. Like eventually, you can't really stop it if you're gonna give this platform any life, and they have, and here we are. And so if they don't step in and intervene... Some way, by, by taking over this conversation, then they're totally cooked, totally cooked, because I got normies coming to me talking about the JQ, bro. Right? I got, I got, I got just complete normies, bro. Fox News loving normies coming to me about the Jews. And so I, I just, I got a little bit of,

Speaker 9alarm bells going off sometimes, you know? Like, like- I don't know what you think about it, but, the questions for me are, can they actually pull off limiting free speech? How would they do that? How would we counter that effectively? And the sooner that we can figure that out, get ahead of it, the better. And really everything else is kind of just like- On the side for me, because if they pull that off, it doesn't really matter, 'cause we saw the COVID overnight, bro. Overnight, it was, it was a different paradigm. Overnight, people weren't even able to find the information to expose the lie. So they do have that power, and so, yeah. Anyway, that's what I think is coming. I think Trump will do it. I don't know if it's, false flags. I think we've seen them attempt a few, and it just didn't really work, but-

Speaker 9Yeah, man, that's, that's, or, or, hey, maybe, maybe for the first time ever, they're just gonna sit back and take the L, bro. I guess one could argue that they're not really sitting back and they're just kinda taking the L anyway, and they're trying their best. I mean, guess that's possible. I think that they're, like specifically like Israel, they're just preoccupied. They just want, they just want the greater Israel, and they decided they don't really care what anyone thinks about it. They know there's no, like, A good thing. So they're just kind of like, "Screw it, this is our time to go, who cares? Let's try and get 'em distracted enough over here."

Speaker 9I guess at this point, they're just brazenly like, "Yo, we're gonna get America into a war that they're gonna fight on our behalf, and then we're gonna immediately come out and say, 'We're not putting any troops on the ground, y'all are retarded,' and then we're gonna go put our, our ground troops over here in Lebanon and displace people and take it over."

Speaker 9That's what they're gonna do, I don't know, but, yeah, that's my take. My take is that they're gonna try to shut down the conversation, if not, they're going to make sure that the conversation can't lead towards any type of significant substantive counter movement, inter- actionable counter movement. And that's when I get into my real conspiracy bag of like, oh, well then they got Trump in and they don't intend on him leaving. I don't know if you guys have looked into that, but that rabbit hole, it's there, bro. Lots of evidence just Trump isn't leaving office.

Speaker 9So in that scenario, they might not even care too much about limiting the conversation, because they already got their guy in, they're just gonna do what they need to do. I don't know.

Ian MalcolmWell, and I can envision a, a scenario, especially if they escalate the war with Iran and then prospectively extend it to other, maybe BRICS nations in which, a wartime presidency could certainly be, called for, and it wouldn't be the first time it's happened, right? So I, I can definitely see that. I'd, I'd be very curious for, both Dr. Recktenwald and then, and then also for David, if the two of you guys wanna kind of go back and forth maybe with, with

Ian MalcolmThe, the temperance of antisemitism and its, growth within the United States. I, I actually, of all the things that Witt said just said, the one that I most align with is the thought on that they are just going for broke, right? They've got all the pieces, they've got all the power, they've got all the hooks into Trump. I think they have the ability to escalate the war with Iran, if they do so, maybe they just leave Trump in office, they say we're gonna seize the elections for the time being, they just roll As far as they can until people get so exhausted that they're literally rioting in the streets. And all along the way, they would just prospectively push yet another COVID-type scenario, more race relations and, and the escalation thereof, right? More chaos and insanity, prospectively gasoline prices going to ten, fifteen, twenty dollars a barrel, or a gallon, and then you can quickly see how society gets so chaotic that, that people don't even know- Where to spend their time being frustrated, and as a result, the last thing that they wanna be frustrated about is that Jews, Jews are running everything, right? I, I, I feel like that is what they're doing right now, because they know the ruse is up, they've got all the control, there's enough people talking about it, they can't do the subversion element anymore, so they're just gonna go for absolute gaslighting and offense, and, and see if they can grab everything. And, and I'm, I'm kinda curious, David, for you,

Ian MalcolmOf a round table conversation with which I'll be very curious.

Speaker 10Well, speaking of bricks, I would throw one through the Overton window, just like our forefathers did. I don't think people will be confused if they know what the problem is. You're confused if you think that because your elbow hurts and your knee hurts and your ankle hurts, if you, if they're, if you don't realize the systemic problem, it's very confusing to you. Why is all this stuff happening to me? But then if your doctor says, actually, it's all one thing. It ceases to be confusing. So I'm not so interested in being clever. We will never out-clever the opposition. And obviously, this is a,

Speaker 10you know, I tweeted out earlier, you know, Benjamin Franklin's quote that, "It's a republic if you can keep it, and then we've lost it. We've lost our republic. There is no reason to vote anymore, and maybe that's a good thing." Because as you've heard me say before, the biggest misapprehension of democracy is that the voting booth is our instrument of control over our rulers, when obviously quite the reverse is true. So I would say that if these are the times that try men's souls, then let's make sure that we are the stronger for it. And this is a great awakening, obviously, it's a peaceful revolution, and let's just make sure that, like a team of horses, it'll carry us forward and not trample us underfoot.

Speaker 10It's been, it's funny that it's been, Ian, two hundred and fifty years. It's, it's such a round number, that our forefathers brought forth this nation or a republic that was predicated on this sacros-sacrosanct idea, I should say, of self-ownership and, you know, that each, each man, that no, that nobody, no government, and especially in this case, not a foreign government, has a right to one moment of your time or effort on earth. You know, it's, it's just important that we all define ourselves by what we're fighting for and not what we're fighting against. We're fighting for our freedom. You know, our, our forefathers, they created this,

Speaker 10they designed our government to protect the jewel of liberty like an Indiana Jones movie, with so many traps and triggers and pitfalls to stop tyranny from getting in. And I commend our forefathers for doing so to such a point that it's lasted for two hundred and fifty years. But now by weakness of design or the cleverness of evil men, that republic is over, and it's up to us to determine what comes next. I do agree that we need to be very clear about our message. But from this moment on, and I'm sorry, and that's why I didn't go into other spaces today, the tremulous, to them, to the diffident, and the downright cowardly, I say stay at home. We no long-- we no longer wanna, you know, inspire you with the courage of our forefathers. In the words of Henry the Fifth, I say the fewer men, the greater the share of honor when we do win, and we will win, and the greater ignominy for those who, I guess, long from now, will die in their beds knowing instead of rising the occasion, they shrunk from it and placated their masters for what? Shekels and table scraps? So this is a great, you know? History isn't over, right? There was once a Minoan civilization, and there was a great moment that led up to that, and I'm sure the greatest men were the ones who started it, and then afterwards the Mycenaean civilization, and then afterwards the Acadian civilization, and then afterwards the Golden Age of Greece, which is the germ of all Western civilization, and then Rome and everything else that followed. So that's us. Screw the boomers, screw the so-called greatest generation. That's us. That's us. And I'm sorry, but let's don't try to out-clever them, and let's don't say, "We have to be careful what we say." Who are these people? And why should we? It's a critical mass of us, we ourselves. Sinn Féin, that's what the Irish say, the Sinn Féin movement. We ourselves. We should be talking to each other, and the idea that, "Oh, you know, like if we just talk to this guy or that

Speaker 10We need a critical mass of people on our side, and we need to find out who's courageous and who's not, move on from the cowardly, and encourage the brave, and be very, very clear, very, very obvious, very, very un-clever. Jean-Jacques Rousseau is right, there are too many clever people in the world. You can never out-clever, clever the ignoble, but you can out-moral them, and the truth spoken once shatters a lie a thousand times. That's why they want to censor us, and by the way, let them try We're sitting there thinking, oh, well, they'll do this and they'll do this and they'll do this. Well, what will we do? Let's talk about us and what we do. We'll respond in kind every time with the truth. It's a peaceful revolution. I don't believe an eye for an eye or a truth for truth is the answer. I agree with Gandhi, then the whole world goes blind and toothless. No, no, no, all we have to do to be emancipated is call out who's tyrannizing over us. That's it. If our country

Speaker 10One word, liberty, and the people that have taken control of our government, Israel, Jewish supremacists, and their avaricious allies. That single word, liberty, is the idea, is the very thing they need to overcome to rule you, to own your few, few feet of flesh. So I'm not really interested in how to deal with a Kabuki theater. We are way bigger, way stronger, way more powerful, and we're going to win, and they know it. I think this is all a desperate last grab, like criminals in a jewelry store when they can hear the sirens coming So it's just a matter of how we comport ourselves. I don't think we can really out-clever them. What do you think about that, my friend?

Speaker 9I like a lot of what you said. I think the, you know, there's a bit of the, the- That was a question for Ian. I was asking

Speaker 10Ian that question.

Ian MalcolmWell, no, and, and, and it's, it's why I think it's a, an interesting one to kind of balance the two and, and, I mean, I'm, I'm obviously taking, a little bit more of a, a bend towards David's notion there of, speaking directly and speaking boldly and just calling it what it is, but I, I can also appreciate, wits' notion that for those that are less, familiar with the subjects, just be maybe a little bit more specific with your verbiage, right?

Speaker 10In Right? You've got two candidates down there, right? And one of them is him and how he, you know, when I asked him, "Who is the-- what country is the biggest threat to America?" Oh, you know, it's not Japan, it's not Madagascar, you know, he started listing out all the countries. What? I asked Dan Bilzerian, he came into the space, same question. Israel. Yes. Bing, bam, boom. Yes, nailed it. You know, it was, it was,

Speaker 10It was Pablo Picasso who said, "I could always paint like a child, like a master. It took me years to learn how to paint like a child. Learn how to be, say things simply, directly. Be direct. That's what honest people do." The snake slithers in all directions. You're not going to outsnake the snake

Speaker 11okay? So I just, I just don't believe that. And by the way, I don't think our forefathers thought that either. They were very, very direct, very, very open. They weren't clever men, they were noble and honorable. By the way, they were aristocrats, didn't try to be. So I just, you know, I, I think the long course of history, I don't think, I don't think William Wallace tried to out-clever

Speaker 11I don't think the people who stood in the path of Thermopylae tried to out-clever their opponents.

Speaker 12David, may I, may I respond to David then, if it's okay with you?

@malleusigOf course.

Speaker 12Yeah, David, I full-heartedly, you know, agree with you. I would say that there is a caveat here, and that caveat is that if you want to achieve- Freedom. If you want to really pursue, your freedom, you also have to free yourself from the manipulations. A-and what do I mean by that? If somebody can artificially inject fear and hate within you,

Speaker 12so you're, so, they're essentially what they're trying to do is basically get you to fight their war and- the prime example is the pursuit of Greater Israel. Now, if you wanna achieve the Greater Israel, Israel is surrounded by Muslim countries, right? And for them to achieve Greater Israel from the Nile to the Euphrates, they have to essentially-

Speaker 12Fight or defeat all those Muslim countries and make sure there's no, no entity in that region that can stand against Israel. Now they can't do it on their own, they have to now leverage the US, and they're using the US like toilet paper to get them to do their dirty work, and this makes it even worse because then they come in here and basically side with us. To the nth degree by demonizing and manufacturing hate and, fear of the other, so then we can go in and fight the Iraqis, we can go in and fight the Iranians, that they're an imminent threat, they're an existential threat, and therein lies the, I guess, the game that, that's been going on for thirty plus years, if not longer.

Speaker 12and oftentimes we fall for it because we don't realize that right now, I'll give you a simple example. Bobby Saus, I don't know if you guys know him, he's a social media influencer. I love his work, he's just very, he's very fluent, to say the least, and articulate in how he conveys his message. He interviewed somebody

Speaker 12out, outside the polling station, and he said and the guy had voted for Ed Galarion, I'm not sure if I pronounced that right, but, yeah, so he said, "Why'd you vote for him?" He said, "Well, I saw a video of Tom Massie sitting and having a f-dinner or lunch with Ilhan Omar, and, and he was holding hands with her." And I realized that, you know, he's, he's basically joined the, the enemy.

Speaker 12I'm, I'm paraphrasing, mind you. And essentially that was what they utilized, and it was a deepfake, and the boomer believed it. Now, this is just one example, the Ed's campaign team repeatedly utilized ads that showcased Tom Massey getting money from Muslims, Muslim Americans for that matter, even though ninety-five percent of his donors were small contributions from all over the country. Now, again, I, I feel like the Achilles' heel of Americans is that we've been so, so psyop for thirty plus years, if not longer, through Hollywood, through mass media That your enemy is the Muslim world, and, and

Speaker 12they leverage that over and over and over to make you guilty by association, in the case of Massey, to essentially get you to go fight their wars, and unless and until we free ourselves from that fear and hate I don't think we can achieve freedom. And mind you, I'm not saying go like Muslims. I don't like many Muslims. I, I, I've embraced Islam a long time ago. But that's not the point. The point is that my fear and my hate is now being hijacked and manipulated,

Speaker 12to essentially get me to do stuff that I-- that's detrimental to my own interest. If it stands,

Speaker 11if it stands to reason that this is good versus evil, then that means it's also love versus hate. And this brings us back to messaging. If you are driven by your loves and your defense of the innocent, then your message will probably be pretty good. They need you to hate. They planted inside of you and they weaponize it. That is a way of taking over and really becoming the engine of your soul. That's what they have to do, you know. I've read tables eighty-two from the Quran before, where it's talking about Christians being honorable people and sincere people and humble people. Well, why would it go out of the way, out its way to say that? There is an Islamic parable, I think this is actually a Sufi parable, where you've heard me talk about before, where it describes the Prophet Jesus walking down a path and someone berates him and his companion after the man goes away, asks, "Why did you respond? With love to that man that was hateful to you, and I said, 'Cause that's all I had in my purse. You must dispossess yourself of hate. It isn't doing nothing for you. In fact, it was the Buddha who said that hating someone else and expecting it to hurt them is like drinking poison and expecting it to hurt someone else, you know? And for me, I'm not inspired to speak out. I wasn't inspired to be a part of this movement because of how many shekels it would garner me. I wasn't even inspired because, you know, they're

Speaker 11It's because of fear. I'm really not a very courageous person when I think of myself walking or trying to walk through the gates of heaven and having that little Palestinian girl looking at me, knowing that I didn't speak up for her. It's by love of her and her little brother and all of the little children, those beautiful little children, every little child seems like an angel to me. I want them to know that I spoke up. So be defined by your loves, and your message will probably- Thank

Speaker 12you, David. We need to, to clone a few million of you with that mindset.

Speaker 13So a couple, couple things, right? So, while I agree with the not out clevering them, if that Intel is any type of subversion.

Speaker 13maybe didn't articulate my, my point as well as I should have, but it's more so just being like, having the mentality of, okay, I might only have a couple minutes, let me like make sure that I'm on point here and have some type of tact. I think that elegance and being articulate isn't synonymous with being clever or subversive, and we were kind of- Operating from the presupposition when we talk about we have each other, we talk to each other, we figure it out, that we are able to do that, right? Then the next thing is kind of, you know, it sounds good if we're like, "Yo, screw it, chest out, be about it," but again, you know, I say respectfully, when I look around, there's actually a relatively small group of people that come out, you know, real face, real name, done this, and, You get debanked. I can pretty much guarantee everyone in this room uses money every day. So it's very difficult, it's very difficult today still in 2026 to come out real identity and straight up call out Jewish supremacy, right? And,

Speaker 13I just think we should be somewhat realistic about it. That's why you have to at least kind of take a step back and be like, "Well, I can understand someone presenting these different, you know, more methodical tactics." Because again, like, well, we can just come out and call everything out, an anon account, and I'm, again, I'm not taking shots at anyone because like, parts of me wish I had a, you know, more tactical, that's not really the point I'm making, but like, that's a very real part of this that kind of gets lost in the weeds, mine a lot. So like I think we, we should be realistic. How, how realistic is it to say that we're all just gonna band together, we're gonna screw it, who cares, and we're gonna straight up call 'em out right now if we're still required to largely remain anonymous? That in and of itself kinda shows the stranglehold, right, and the, the legitimacy of the threat. And so when I'm talking about, for those that are showing their real identity, being just Tactical, meaning like make sure that your, your points have sufficient specificity, they're well articulated, you've kind of considered the alternative positions, you've, preemptively considered any type of rebuttal, et cetera, et cetera. I'm just saying, like, that's to, to me significant, you may not get another chance, and we currently can't speak to each other. And that may not always be the case, we saw them rip that away from us very quickly.

Speaker 13so I guess those would be just a few points I would throw out to clarify my position, you know, because I, I literally just had a bank account shut down a couple days ago, and that's the third time that's happened to me. And I wasn't online for the better part of a year, just recently came back online. I mean, you know, I'm not even getting that many views, and I'm- I'm talking about all kinds of different things, and like, boom, bank account gone. So, and what they do is they just-- Did they give you an explanation

Ian Malcolmas to why that was or what it was that you said that upset them?

Speaker 13No, no, no, no. They, they don't even tell you explicitly that it's because something you said online. At least in my case, right? I, I've- No, I, I don't know what other people's experiences are, but they'll just shut down the bank, and then when you actually, they'll give you just like, "We've made the decision, unfortunately we've made the decision, " da da da, and then if you do try to pursue talking to them, they'll kinda throw you around everywhere, and then they'll just end up saying that they have the right to do it, right? And they'll give you some-- I, I could probably track down the email where they gave me some vague explanation I could read it out,

Speaker 13it Tough luck, like it's tough luck. We made this decision, we think it's in, in our best interest, and sorry, we've chosen to part ways. Like they don't really have to even give you an explanation. I mean, it's not a coincidence, right, that as soon as I come back online, you know, and the other times directly corresponded to me talking about Jewish supremacy directly, right? So-

Speaker 13I don't know, I'm just saying that's pretty, I mean, you know, obviously there are some workarounds, but do, do I really wanna become like solely dependent upon crypto, bro? Because, crypto is kinda being-- Like, why do you guys think crypto's such a big thing under the Trump administration? Are they're obviously pushing us towards the digitalization of the dollar so they can implement a surveillance system where basically every single thing is tracked on the blockchain? So, yeah, I'm just saying, we are still in a- Pretty serious war. We're in a pretty, pretty serious war, right? They start restricting your ability to get on a plane, your ability to use PayPal, processing companies, payment processing companies, you can't even go start your own

Speaker 13site or whatever to take donations for a processing company, processing payment, payment processors won't allow you on, right? And then you're getting kicked out of banks. I mean, it's pretty difficult to survive. That's right now, now imagine whenever they actually shift over to the new system. Right, the new system where you have to fully comply to participate. I think people should go ahead and prepare for what it looks like to not, not agree to that. But anyway, that, that'll be my, my takes there, 'cause I, I think that I agree with almost everything that you said in principle, and, very elegantly stated as well. Just a few, just differ a few places maybe with some nuance, right? Just to, to clarify what I-

Ian MalcolmNo, well, I mean, look, well said, and, and everybody in here, certainly no friendly fire in any regard. I think it's just honing messages. And also for what it's worth, worth noting that, you know, obviously David, myself, many others, are, are behind anonymous, kind of firewalls, right? And, and utilize that anonymity to be able to speak, speak a little bit more, freely about these things than perhaps we, we might in other scenarios. So can certainly appreciate, not only

Ian MalcolmBut, also doing so face forward, which takes a lot of courage, and I know that-

Speaker 13Oh, let me, let me jump in real there, just so, just to clarify, I'm not berating you about it, right? Because it's not like I could go back if I wanted to, right? So, so like, it's like some of us just did it and then found out, and it's not like, you know, I'm not trying to, and I'm, I'm, I'm think that people that are anonymous is important, right

Speaker 13Anybody than having to wait ninety days to get a check of what was in there, right? Like, I, I, so, yeah, not, not to cut you off too quickly, but just to clarify, 'cause I don't want it to sound like, no, I'm really the, I'm really the soldier here, you know, nothing like that. like, it's not like, it's not like I decided, you know, super courageously, oh, well, I'm gonna, I'm willing to give away everything to speak about it. You obviously do

Speaker 13I don't know how much I can say, right? I don't wanna say too much, but I will just say that, some interesting job opportunities, right? And as I go down certain paths, interestingly enough, repeatedly asked about antisemitism. And so, you know, what my experience is, is that you will be given an opportunity to kind of sell your soul.

Speaker 13So it's like, you can always kinda back out as long as you'll go kiss the wall, metaphor, you know? And that's, I guess, the part that's courageous, but yeah, I, I, I'm not, I'm not like saying, "Yo, you guys are anonymous, you aren't doing it." No, no shots at all at people that are anonymous accounts. That's, I was trying to clarify. I don't, I don't even think it's much of an option here. I just think that we should look at that pragmatically.

Speaker 13And just every once in a while should be kind of brought back up, right? Because it's like, yo, just to kind of get us like a little bit of a reality check here, we, we are still under, under their thumb in very many ways.

Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And, and, let's go to, Mr. Malias and, and get some of his thoughts, and then we'll check in with Honey Badger.

@malleusigBye. Thanks, guys. I won't take too much time, I know a lot of people waiting. I just wanted to say that I think everyone so far has been spot on. Obviously, what's it you and I can have our disagreements on flat Earth, that's a different topic. But, the important thing is, I think maybe I differ a little bit with David on this one, but not substantially.

@malleusigand I think that he-- maybe he meant something else, but I think that we're, we're fighting a very sophisticated war. And one of the reasons why we typically have such a difficult time is because we have difficulty controlling the low end of our IQ spectrum, and they're the ones that confuse, being honest and straightforward with defaulting to the simplest and most idiotic arguments possible, right? The ones that want call to violence, the ones like, "We're gonna kick 'em all out, they're gonna leave the country, right?" And it's like, these are Essentially, you're bringing like pointy rocks to a, to a fight with, you know, sniper rifles. We need to be very sophisticated. And this is what Jesus talked about when he said, "Go out, you must be as clever as serpents and as gentle as doves." Alright? You have to make sure you are sitting down and thinking about your messaging. You're not just getting up and like shouting it off the hip every time. Sometimes it's gonna be okay to shoot from the hip. But most of the time, because you're dealing with an opponent that is extremely sophisticated and has extreme amounts of incitational capture, and they're going to-- if you're not careful, they're going to out-sophisticate you and get people believing the lie instead of the truth, because the truth,

@malleusigit's one of these things that we have this weird mindset where we think the truth is its own salesman, when in reality You know, most things that people believe, they're not arrived at through reason, they're not arrived at through logic, they're not arrived at through a sincere effort to figure out what the truth is. They're arrived at in the same way everything else is marketed to people, through celebrities, through appeal to authority, through, you know, appeal to popularity. Like, like if you think this, it makes you unpopular, you're not a cool kid anymore. These are the main drivers of people's belief systems, unfortunately, and we still have to contend with that. So I would just advise everyone to,

@malleusigwhile you're out there, and yes, stay anonymous, while you're out there, take time, take time to make your message clear, succinct, easily rememberable, easily, easily memorable, and, as positive as possible, because this is like these people sat down and wrote a whole language dictionary on this. And you need to be doing the same thing for yourself or for others. that's just the advice I wanted to give. Thank you.

Ian MalcolmYeah, of course. And, curious, w-we've got, Honey Badger, and then let's go to, Mr. Martin.

Speaker 14Hey, Ian. Hey, gentlemen, and late, and Joanne.

Speaker 14hey, hey, thanks for having me. You know, with, it's nice to meet you, sir, what's it? the thing that I would say, and I wanna go all the way back to earlier in the conversation when you mentioned that the US, the liberty is sort of a non-starter. I firmly disagree, and, and let me explain why. Because most people just started to wake up to a lot of the things that, you know, I guess we talk about in these spaces all the time. And if you'll forgive me, I was, I guess I really didn't realize how completely out of touch I am with the average voter because I truly believed that, you know, particularly if you consider-- and I saw the breakdown just now of,

Speaker 14Of the, the donors, like for each, just to put this in perspective, so like, donors in Kentucky for Massey, there were fifteen hundred and forty-five, and for Galraine, there were seventy. You know, and so he still lost. And apparently, there was something like ten thousand eight hundred and fifty mail-in ballots that, came in.

Speaker 14anyway, I'll digress on that, but, but point being, I just, it really, it never ceases to amaze me how different the country thinks from the way that we think in these spaces and the things that we've been talking about for years now, really, I think. I've always been pretty red-pilled on the JQ as I just have watched, you know, Jews get, I'm sorry, Christians get squished out of the region. You know, for over a hundred years, and nobody ever really takes up for Christians, you know? Our greatest ally really doesn't give a shit and participates mostly in, you know, the genocide of everybody in that area, and particularly Christians, I'd say, in many cases. And so, you know, I'm, but I'm always shocked at the number of people that, that don't know this, you know? So I don't think we're, you know, beating a, like sort of beating a dead horse when we talk about things like the USS Liberty and what really happened there. I think there's so many things that nobody knows about, but at the end of the day, I think telling people is the wrong move. I believe that the Socratic method is highly underrated. For such things. You know, even to the point of, "Well, you're an anti-Semite." Now, they're the ones, I mean, they're on the--

Speaker 14Why go on the off-- why go after the attack when really the material, like, writes itself. For example, you're an anti-Semite. Do you know what an anti-Semite is? Start the conversation there. Ninety-five percent of the people that throw around the word don't even know what the word means, and they don't even know what they're accusing you of or where it From. Do you see? And so I mean, I mean, I know that you have a couple of, debates ahead of you, but rather than making, you know, counterpoints or talking points, why not, you know, perhaps focus more on, you know, questioning their stance to death and staying calm and just kind of like, you know, practicing the, you know, the old adage if you give a dog enough rope, they'll eventually hang themselves, because I think that's what it's really, you know- I think that, you know, with every, with everything that we're accused of, while this noticing, you know, such, you know, such thing is now, you know, small elections, and this really is like it's a, it's a house seat, you know, are getting bought and paid for by foreign entities. You know, the truth is on your side, and as long as you can rest in the truth, then you, you, you know, that pretty much wins about eighty percent of the debate, and they will be left with only rhetoric, right? You know, and the

Speaker 14Is, you know, I'm, I'm as white-pilled in some ways as, about some things as David is, but like I should say probably the same thing sometimes. And that is, if, you know, I've perhaps been on this platform for long enough now, going on seven years actively, that I can say this, I've seen so many things, you know, and I just, you know, just so even when we think of the election of twenty twenty, you know, most of us still believe it was stolen, though we don't support Trump. Any longer, but, I remember how dejected this entire platform-- most people abandoned this platform at the time. You know, I went from something like, and this was back in 2020, like I said, I went from something like, at the time, maybe I had Fifteen thousand followers, and I went down, like, literally overnight to like six thousand followers. That's how people abandon this platform. Twitter one point o is a very different world, and at the very least, we can still have these conversations very openly and freely. You know, if you think, if you think you're censored now, you've seen nothing.

Speaker 14and so, and so I guess what I'm saying is, is that this shot in the dark with, with, with Tom Mastin, I know it's a deeply red district, but for example, you know That guy, hasn't won anything yet, the, the, and, you know, he still has to win the seat from the chick that's running against him. Do you know what I'm saying? And so-

Speaker 14We have, like, you know, we can lament this as unfair, unjust, and, and just kind of shocking, like I said to most of us here that are talking about these things all the time. And I, I always really like Tom Massey, 'cause it, is at the end of the day, he seems like he has a lot of integrity, you know? co-as compared to dot, dot, dot, you know?

Speaker 14but I think that we're, you know, this is the process. So we saw, you know, something very shocking. Now this is a wake-up call. Now, you know, moving forward, how we regroup as individuals that, you know, just want, you know, to put the United States first before these special interest groups, I think we're going to move differently and we'll probably change our actions, you know, certainly not our words, but the way that we handle and process the information moving ahead is what's going to make all the difference. So thanks for letting me speak.

Ian MalcolmIan? Yeah, of course, as, as always, and, very nicely and, and lovingly delivered there, Honey Badger. let's check in with, Martin, and then we'll go to, to Andy see if they have questions for Witsit or thoughts on, Thomas Massey.

Speaker 15Hey, good morning, Ian. Hey Rabbi, and lovely to see you, Joanne. really enjoyed listening to Witsit. I think what he said is great, is great advice on a thousand different other topics. but extending on that, if you really think about it and trying to look at things from the perspective of American, which I'm not, is when you go on and say there's Jewish supremacy, Jewish influence, I think at this point it's kind of dumb to dismiss that or to argue against it. And I think at some point that becomes a distraction to the discussion, and I think the discussion should be, if the points are, okay, greater Israel, greater Israel, and, you know, influence, you should be asking, why is it bad for an American? Like, I think the discussion of, okay, then, Jewish supremacy and Jewish influence is driving towards, reality where there's greater Israel. Okay, why is that bad for, for common American? Why is greater Israel bad for common American? I think assuming-- and I'm incredibly pro-Palestinian, but I'm even gonna say this, I think assuming that most Americans will give a shit about what goes on in Gaza is a distraction to the discussion of why Jewish supremacy is bad for Americans. So for that, for me is, that's my personal goal, but I'm not American, I'm talking from your, from your perspective. I think the discussion should be,

Speaker 15like, why is the greater Israel bad for, for, for Americans? Why are all the points that you bring up, regarding like why you're so concerned with, Jewish influence, how is that affecting in a negative way? Because a lot of people will, if you, if you-- and then getting, going into the discussion, being completely prepared to what the arguments will be against you, well, if you really go into like why it's great or is it bad for, for Americans, there's lots of pros of why it's actually great for Americans. I mean, if you, if you really wanna attack that Then you need to come with the arguments. Now maybe that's not the right thing to bring up. Maybe the conclusion is actually greater Israel is good for America, and if that is The conclusion of that, then you should be coming up with other reasons on why Jewish supremacy is bad. I mean, I think, honestly, I mean, Dan wrote about it that it's undeniable anymore. I think that's kind of a mute thing. I mean, just looking at APAC's announcement this morning, it's, it's clear, it's beyond doubt, and I think that the Zionists are using the discussion about antisemitism and Jewish supremacy as a distraction to talk about the real issue of why the influence is actually bad for you guys. That's all I have to say, and thanks

Ian MalcolmNo, and, and, and well, well stated. And, and look, I, I do think, when it comes to the greater Israel, I, I only see that as detrimental, for what it's worth. I mean, Jewish supremacy is basically taking the remains of prosperity, and, and Martin, please, please, correct me if maybe I'm missing something here, but right, there's obviously a very easy argument to be made that the benefits of Israel and its conquest of land, the development- Development of its economy, all of the entanglement they have with their tech companies, right? They're, they're basically just getting to spy on everybody while dictating our policies, while exporting our, our military, right? And, and you can bet every last dollar that when we have exhausted everything left that we have to give, it's not gonna be like in the book The Giving Tree, right? Where all we have is just the stump of the tree, where they've taken every other ounce, and the old man says, "Well, at least we can just stay together," right? I mean Israel and the Jews are going to say, "We are done with you, we don't need you anymore. Goodbye, America." And we might as well just be Jack in the end of Titanic, when the woman, after he saves her life a million different ways, drops him into the ocean, right? That's, that's what they're gonna do to the United States, and I find it really-- I, I, I mean, maybe there's an argument to be made, be made, but I find it really difficult to see any other way that that, plays out.

Speaker 15Well,

Speaker 15The spy part, if you can find an actual connection, there is, but if you can bring an argument providing an actual connection with a result or greater, so I'm just trying to sort of get to the point, ends up with Americans being spied on, then okay, why is that bad? And then touch that. Like, I, I'm, I'm like, really, I think that's the way to deal with it. I mean, no one wants to be spied on, and then you need to ask, okay, why is that bad for you? Maybe being spied on provides

Speaker 15And, I think at the end of the day, if we look at what we're doing, and I do that as well, but again, I'm not American, so my, my whole goal here is a bit different than what you guys are up, up against. I talk about everything all day long about Jewish supremacy, Jewish influence and all that all day long in order to prove it. But then when you really push back, you understand it doesn't need to be proved anymore, it's just there. And I think the discussion needs to be of how does all this affect the common

Speaker 15They say it feels like this is just another part of making things so, so way worse that people, common people will just wake up. it, it just feels like a stage like that. Maybe in the future it will look like, okay, this had to happen for, for things to get that, that way worse, and it just feels that way, and hopefully that's where it's going.

@joann_marieThank you so much, Martin, and I love always hearing you, and I'm really happy that you came up. It's been months, so, yeah, hopefully we can, we can talk more. And also, guys, please repost this space, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it for Leah and Michael and everyone in the panel, which is brilliant. So thank you so much for being here.

@joann_marieRabbi, go for it!

@malleusigOh, shit. I'm sorry, guys. Go ahead, I forgot what I was gonna say. I just, I think I just wanted to say, I just wanted to say hi to Martin and everyone.

@joann_marieOh, sorry. Okay.

@malleusigGo ahead.

@joann_marieyes, we, we love Martin. Go for it, Andy.

Speaker 16Yeah, so obviously this loss is disappointing. I mean, they spent thirty million dollars, but of course they're trying to spin this false narrative that, oh no, it's because of Trump's influence and Trump won this for the American people, which is obvious BS, even Apex Israel is great politics and wins elections. We defeated anti-Israel Thomas Massie, so it's funny how APAC already stomps on their in-narrative that they don't control things by admitting that pro-saying pro-Israel is great politics. So, yeah, the whole MAGA lie that, oh, this is Trump's influence that won this, yeah, a Trump endorsement of Massey doesn't win this election without thirty million in APAC and Jewish money. So it's, yeah, they're already trying to run that psyop, obviously we're not gonna fall for that. But yeah, I think things need to get worse in this country before more people wake up. Like there needs to be some type of economic calamity, I think, for more people to wake up. Like if the, I think if the Iran war causes a recession, people-- more people realize, "Huh, there is a problem with Kuwait's supremacy. They dragged us into this war, and now my 401k is gone. Maybe I should vote for an alternative to Vance and Rubio who are responsible for this in '28." But without some seismic shift like That there just isn't enough people, like all the young people are w-woken up, but young people show up at a lower percentage of their share of the population than the boomers do. Like So that's another problem, like what do we do to actually get the young people when there is a crucial election where there is a real choice and it's not just Zionist Dem versus Zionist Republican to actually show up in the numbers needed? Like I think if every person in the district voted, Massey wins, but y- obviously thirty million dollars combined with some younger people probably staying home is just, that's an other issue we need to overcome because our movement does skew towards younger people. Obviously, we have people like Michael, but he's in the vast minority for his age group. And yeah, it's just disappointing. And then now, of course, we're already freaking back into the stupid Twitter drama, and you have Dandelion's fan account C-calling that the mass shooting yesterday was done by a groeper without any evidence, so yeah, I k-thought we were past that, but I guess now we have to frickin' relitigate Nick and Dan right after we frickin' lost the crucial election. It's, it's just so tiresome. Like, I'm so sick of this drama, but like, the fact that now you have people in our own movement falsely accusing others of homicide is just ridiculous.

Ian MalcolmI, I, I do find it curious because, I, I mean, my, my first instinct was that the, one individual was perhaps trans, which, I then saw the Amuse account, which people might recognize. They have like a stormtrooper helmet, I think it is, as a, a, an icon, and they seemingly affirmed that knee-jerk reaction that I thought might be accurate. but so now, now I guess the suggestion would be that it was two, if I'm not mis-- not mistaken, they're both, Hispanic, prospectively one of them, if not both, are trans, and they are lovers, and now the suggestion is that they would also be gropers, which I think would be the strangest intersectionality that you could envision, for, for any set of, of individuals. So I, yeah, Andy, I find that one a little bit strange. but, but Andy, I also wanted to ask you. So Sam Parker, and I'm gonna put this up into, into the nest. This is very curious. Sam Parker wrote, "Did Massey get twenty-twentyed? Because Massey increased turnout by nineteen percent over twenty twenty-four,

Ian Malcolmhis opposition increased opposition turnout by three hundred and fifty-seven percent." So today's turnout doubled that of the twenty twenty-four election cycle. It is the highest overall vote total in Kentucky history. And so the suggestion is that we would have to believe that this individual, because of their thirty million dollars, were able to get out an absurd amount of additional votes, on their behalf rather than, you know, say, Thomas Massey fans just breaking with him. And it's worth noting, Massey again got seventy-six percent of the votes in twenty twenty-two. So I'm, I'm kinda- I'm curious, Andy, do you agree with Sam, Parker in this case that there might be something afoot on that front?

Speaker 16I think there's certainly, I think it is certainly possible. I mean, just, I, from everything I've heard, there are no signs for Ed in the district or anything, so like, I just don't know where that support's coming from, like, especially since this is Trump's guy, I think all the MAGA people have been putting up signs for Ed, so the fact that no one's been posting, "Wow, look at all

Speaker 16These votes come from. I do think it is entirely possible that there was some funny business in this election, just because you've never-- you, there was no support online for it. It was all just, "Oh, this fake, these fake allegations against Massey," whether suggesting he voted against ICE, or voted for trans, or that, the fake story that Laura Loomer ran, and I really hope Massey sues her for defamation because she keeps defaming people and getting away with it. There's a reason they had Laura Loomer break that story and Fox News didn't break it, doesn't wanna get sued. So they're like, "Hey, Laura, we gotta hatch a job. You're the one that always just makes stuff up and isn't held accountable, so go ahead and run these, this slander against Massey." So I hope Massey stands up and sues her for defamation, because she does need to be dealt with legally for everything she's done. She's a vile person, and she's defamed so many people. Like, that's another thing. Like, it's just, I'm sick of her.

Ian MalcolmNo, reasonable as, as always, Andy. And, and really quickly, I just wanted to call on everybody, certainly give follows, wonderful speakers that we have up here. Love that we do have Mr. Witzt, wonderful, to have him back. Very, very curious mind and, and some curious angles that he brought to the table. speaking of curious angles, I know we've got Mr. Mr. IQ via JQ. Always love to hear from a Mr. Amiro. And then we will go down to, to

Ian Malcolmprior to checking in once again with the one and only Yitz, and we will let Yitz and, and Witsetz go back and forth and see if they've got some agreements or disagreements there within.

Speaker 17Thanks, Ian. I don't know about you, by the way, great speakers on the panel, and, I love the energy. I don't know about you, but I'm not moved at all by, or phased, sorry, is what I meant to say, by Massey's loss. I feel like we lost when I learned about the JQ and the kind of how Israel and, and these Jewish American traitors, Jewish supremacists have our government, you know, by the balls. That's like

Speaker 17That's where it kind of sunk in and that we're at a disadvantage there. And already we've lost the media, we've lost politicians, we've lost the president, we've lost a lot of things. Like Massey's loss is disappointing, but it's also-- there's a silver lining there because if you heard the speech and the people in the background, they were very enthusiastic and, you know, calling for him to be president. And I liked his attitude and, you know, he made a lot of naturally funny jokes, and you can tell he has a connection with, with the people there. I particularly liked when he said he had like a, what was it, a, a margarita license or something, like nodding to, marijuana or something like that. I don't know, it was just clever and,

Speaker 17you know. I'm just, I'm happy with how he ended it, and I think, there's gonna be backlash, so I'm honestly like Not phased by it, but I'm wondering Ian, what, how you feel about this loss.

Ian Malcolmjust in general? Well, isn't it funny? It's the, it's, it, it, I feel like, Groundhog Day. Somebody mentioned that in a different space, and I say it because I feel similar to what I felt during, Donald Trump's victory, and I say that because- I, I didn't know if Trump was going to be the dumpster fire that I feared that he perhaps could be, or after everything with Biden, if he would actually be somewhat sincere with his MAGA claims, right? And that he would come out and fix the wall that he never finished, that he would do mass deportations that he promised, and, we've seen all that go by the wayside. And I say it because just like with Trump, that has vindicated the very worldview that we've been trying to share from the, the mountaintops, right? And so all of the critics that a year or two or three or four or five or ten years ago, told me that I was kind of crazy with my worldview, right? We've, we've seen Donald Trump just perfectly personify all of them. He's bent the knee to all of the usual suspects. He's doing all of the things- That one would do if completely loyal to the system, and now we saw that system come out in full force in opposition to Massey, the one guy that, you know, he, he wasn't even all that aggressive, right? It's not like he was out there saying, "Hey, Jewish supremacy is a problem." No, he just said, "Look, I mean, APAC's got a ridiculous amount of control, and we should probably end the Fed." And that's, that's kind of where his conversation largely, you know, ended. and yet even that was terrifying for these

Ian MalcolmI feel like the loss is, it's disappointing. I don't know in the grand scheme of things if it does anything to stop, let's say, political causes, right? you know, Massey had some ability, and I'm sure Manko Smash could come in here and explain how Massey could put up a firewall and prevent a few pieces of legislation, perhaps, and maybe he's right, I don't know. But what I do know is that this has just further vindicated our worldview, it's further strengthened our argument

Ian MalcolmAnd people that are true conservatives, right? If, if they, if they're not completely sucked into the cult of MAGA, your true conservative Republicans would look at somebody like Massey and say this is a good guy. They would, they would wonder why Donald Trump would turn on him. And so I feel like Donald Trump and the entire MAGA cult, he's just bleeding followers, right? They're trying to, to run out the clock, they're trying to use that base to just fuel enough of this insanity so that- They can get the war with Iran, they can get a few more absurd pieces of legislation in particular to go for your guns and your speech, I think those are the things they want the most, right? And then they build out the Palantir surveillance state like Witchit was talking about, and that is very real. Like, it, it really is. And, for anybody who hasn't seen it, the, the Terminator's not gonna be Arnold walking around. It's not gonna be the, the, what was it, in the second movie, the guy that, you know, he's, he's, liquid metal, right? That's not what they're gonna come out with. They will have parking lots of Palantir and Andrew-based drones that will be configured to lamp poles or light poles, whatever you would call those. By the thousands. And you will have drones delivering your, your, let's say, let's say your toothpaste from Amazon via one drone, and right next to it will be the other that is seeking out or stalking or watching or recording or prospectively coming with a dart gun to take you out. That, that is their insane vision, is that they control every- You're absolutely right. And if

Speaker 17I may, Ian, we all saw them kill Hamas' leader with a drone, and they, they celebrated it. They're gonna celebrate it when they do it to us. They just have to have enough control over the narrative. But, I mean, we've seen how they deal with Palestinians. They have no remorse whatsoever. They have a third world mentality, they refuse to assimilate, they're very problematic, honestly. Like, I want conservatives to kind of be racists for, for once, like at the right people. If, if we had a Somali daycare infestation, people wouldn't be needing so much evidence. Like, we've gathered a lot of evidence, a lot of things that need to be looked at, right? And people still refuse it.

Speaker 17but the Somali daycare is like, what, is there any evidence that people look, they're just, just hear about Somali daycares and they're just talking about it, they don't care about the sensibilities of Somalis, they mock that, that dude that was running from here and his light bulb shaped head, like, they, they don't give a fuck about that shit. But now suddenly with Jews they care, and it's just, it's just nonsense. Like, if there's any time to be racist, it's now. But of course, I'm not actually advocating for

Speaker 17You get what I'm saying?

Ian MalcolmWell, and I, I think, I think there's actually an argument to be made that, that we do need to not necessarily be racist, but we need to be Jewish supremacists, if we can make up a word, to tag onto the end of that one, I'm sure David would like that, that, that lingo, right? Because we need to be able to look at the people that think that they're entitled to rule over us, and I think it was Witt said he was saying this, right? A group of people

Ian MalcolmOver your body and your mind, and if you don't like it, I'm going to call you hateful and racist. It's like, wait, wait a second. Let's, let's pause, let's reverse engineer what you just said, and let's illustrate how insane this is, and that's what they need to do. And so to Whitsitt's comment earlier, I do think that the worst thing possible that anybody could do is go out and do something violent and erratic. Right? They want that. And I, I genuinely fear that if we don't do that, because we are good, reasonable, responsible people, they will figure out a way to make it look like we have. And then we look at this trans shooter that went into a mosque apparently, and, and out front had a gas can with the Nazi paraphernalia on it, like, d-d-does anybody actually believe this? It is so ludicrous. Somebody's thinking how they're going to orchestrate a mass shooting, and they're like, "Alright, well, don't- Don't forget the gas can. Make sure you put that sticker on it and put it visibly right where the reporters are gonna be. Like, this whole thing is just so insane, and yet I feel like the average person is so bogged down, and, and this is the, the maybe the saddest piece of the entire puzzle, is that in order to steamroll their agenda and to strip all of your rights and your liberties and your freedoms and your civilization They need to make you so depressed, so dependent, so disappointed and disenchanted that you just don't care, right? That you're so dumbed down, you're so strapped for every dollar, that you don't have time to think about any of these things. You're just worried about your kid who's sick that you can't afford to take to the hospital 'cause you can't pay the bills, and even if you could, you can't afford to put the gasoline to get there. Right? They have to make everything so miserable so that people just don't care, and even if they did, they don't have the energy to do anything about it, right? So we gotta keep doing what we are doing here, try and build this community of, of people, and look, this is a teeny little, little window into what we need, right? And, and, and we need to all take that into our local communities, infuse that energy any way that we can, talk about these items in a way that is meaningful. And two whits has comment earlier, and I think This one, when he said that we need to do that intellectually, right? So make sure that the parts of this story that you're talking about, that you really understand the, the details of them, and that you also always lead, like, I think Honey Badger and David were both saying, lead with love, right? Everything is getting worse. And suicide is skyrocketing, obesity is out of control, everyone's getting cancer. It's literally like the inverse of when Oprah said, "You get a car, you get a car, you get a car," now it's, "You get sick, you commit suicide, you lose your job, your company just outsourced all of their employees to the other side of the planet, you lose your right to speech, you lose your right to guns," and we're all supposed to sit around and be like, "Okay, fine." So they're just gonna demoralize everybody, so we gotta morale them back up and get everybody to a point where they say, "No, no, no, you can't do that." but, but yeah, no, great questions there, IQ, and,

Ian Malcolmreally appreciate you bringing that up. And I'm not sure if I'm going to really appreciate what Mr. Yitz is gonna bring to the forefront here, but we will go there prospectively for some entertainment, and then we will check in with Mr. JP, and then we will go to Mr. Actually.

Speaker 18yeah, so thank you for giving me the mic again, Ian. And, the watch party was great, by the way. So, but, so let's go through some of the facts that, some of the guests had mentioned, recently. They said that because Massey lost, there must have been cheating. Obviously, I don't even believe there was cheating in twenty twenty with Biden, let alone cheating here. It's just, it's clear the majority didn't want someone like Massey. And then there was another speaker. I believe they left now. They mentioned about Judea and Samaria in Greater Israel, and I wanted to ask them, what, what, who doesn't want to, to, to you, what, what, what, what does, what, what does it matter to Americans if, if we one day finally reclaim that territory that belongs to us, that's where all the biblical tales took place?

Speaker 18why wouldn't, why wouldn't it, how would it affect Americans? It, it wouldn't, it's, it's essential. And then, you know,

Ian Malcolmwhy don't you just go and do it by yourself and leave us alone forever?

Speaker 18Yeah, I mean, we would love to, but,

Ian Malcolmso, so why are you living in America? Trump,

Speaker 18Trump said that, baby wasn't allowed.

Ian MalcolmNot Trump. Why, why do you live in America? 'Cause you would love that, right? Yes.

Speaker 18Yes, I would love to make Aliyah someday, but I would like to retain my, my both, citizenships. But why?

Ian MalcolmYou just said that you're really excited for the greater Israel and, and to go be part of it and all this kind of stuff. What? Why wait? Why not just get on a plane and excitedly go back?

Speaker 18Because we need a strong, Jewish, community here in the United States. Wait

Ian Malcolma second, why do you need that if you're excited to build up the greater Israel without the United States? It feels like you're

Speaker 18suggesting both things aren't gonna happen. What, what I'm, what, what I'm saying is that if we lack a strong community here in the US Then maybe you would get, an antisemitic charge. And, and by the way, somebody mentioned Zionism. Wait,

Ian Malcolmwait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hang on. Okay, okay, okay. So now, so now, so now, you're really excited for everybody to move back over to the greater Israel? But for the time being, you wanna make sure that you also have a stronghold in the United States, because if everybody were mostly to go over there, then maybe somebody would rise that would be anti-Semitic that might say, "We're done with all of the Israeli subversion," which then might not fuel the continued development of the Greater Israel, 'cause you guys can't do it by yourself. Seems pretty good. Not,

Speaker 18not, nothing was, sub-subversion or anything. Not the- If we look, look. Look, I'm, I'm just laying out the facts, clear as day. We lack any presence in the United States, which is the most powerful country in the world.

Speaker 19You lack presence here.

Speaker 18I'm saying if we did, it wouldn't be good for us, just as it wouldn't be good for any, outside or community or any- Wait,

Speaker 16wait

Ian MalcolmBut, but, but I'm curious. So yes, it, you know, I, I, I could say it would be way better for my people if we also had a presence everywhere and everything, everything was done the way that Ian Malcolm wants it to be done, that would be way better for me, right? But, but that's supremacy. That doesn't make any sense. It's not,

Speaker 18it's not, it's not, supremacy. We're not in charge of, of everything. You're literally saying that you want to

Ian Malcolmcontrol your country while you also control other countries to make sure that they don't oppose your country.

Speaker 18I didn't take control, I said, "Uh, maybe have some, some influence." What did you say? You

Ian Malcolmsaid you want them to be there. Yeah, that, that is... You said otherwise antisemitism might arise, so therefore it needs to be what? Is it controlled, obviously? It needs

Speaker 18to be, it needs to be tamed. It needs to be tamed, like a, like a, like a mad dog that it is.

Ian MalcolmWait, so who's doing the taming? Yes?

Speaker 18Us and, good Americans. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Ian MalcolmSo, so in your worldview, the, the Jem and the Hatt have to remain behind to ensure that they tame everybody into submission. wh-where, where am I, where am I missing with my worldview around submission? It's not, it's not about submission.

Speaker 18It's, it's not about submission. It's about survival. I mean, you mentioned a few moments ago that you would- You mentioned that, you know, we want to, implement a, a voluntary situation. This sounds like

@joann_mariea parasite. Yes,

Ian Malcolmcan, can, yeah, yes, can, can, can you survive if you all just go away and all live amongst one another?

Speaker 18Yeah, if it turns out that way, it turns out that way. I believe it will turn out that way in El Alfa Bar. Someday it will happen that way, perhaps. But I, I do want to say that, you know, why do you think we left Warsaw if we're so interested in pogroms all the time? And that's just, crazy talk, just like the crazy talk about the Zionist Democrats. There are no Zionist Democrats today, maybe aside from, John Fetterman, who I, I proudly voted for. But,

Ian Malcolmthere

Speaker 18Of course not, of course not. You don't, you don't think there's a single

Ian MalcolmZionist Democrat in the United States? Have you not heard

Speaker 16of Chuck Schumer, who a year ago said something about how the Palestinians have no right to the land and all of that? That sounds pretty Zionist to me.

Speaker 18He's being flanked out by his own party and, the progressive wing of the Democrats is going to continue to get more progressive and more anti-Semitic, everybody knows this. But,

Ian Malcolmbut yes, hang on, I, I, I wanna illustrate something 'cause what you just did is you said Doesn't exist. And then Andy was like, "What about this?" And you said, "Wow, that doesn't count." Like you recognize, right?

Speaker 18It's not going to be there for long. the Democrat, the Democratic Party, unfortunately, is very antisemitic, and I have a fear for that this would happen with the Republican Party, but we've seen Casey been defeated, we've seen, Massey been defeated now, and I hope, Dan, Brazillian is defeated in August.

Ian MalcolmBecause, in, just to be clear, Dan Bilesarian would therefore represent one voice out of all the others that is critical of Jewish supremacy, and, and that would be one too many, is that right, Yitz?

Speaker 18yes, because there isn't no such thing as a Jewish supremacy, so, so we don't have a single voice

Ian Malcolmwithin our own government, is that right?

Speaker 18yes, some voices don't deserve to have a platform, right? Some voices, don't deserve to have a platform.

Speaker 20Hey, yes, yeah, hey, yes. How you feel about Miriam Edelson?

Speaker 18she, she, she's great at what she does, and, but she doesn't pollute the streams for Trump any more than Elon Musk did. He gave more money.

Speaker 13Seems like a character trait. Hey, bro, do you think that, do you, do you think that Miriam- Do

Speaker 18you

Speaker 13think Miriam Edelson is

Speaker 18absolutely not. King David's grandmother wasn't a Jew, for example. Rabbi Akiva's mother.

Speaker 20Rabbi Akiva's mother was a convert. Wait, where, where, where?

Speaker 18Yes, yes, yes. Are you, are you in Brooklyn, New York, bro? no, I'm, I'm in Pennsylvania,

Speaker 20I'm not going to say any more. Yeah, no, no need to dock yourself yet. Yeah, I got you. Okay, you don't need to dock yourself. I, I, I understand, I understand. But do you see, do you see the, the way the our infrastructure- Yeah, yeah, yeah, stop talking, talking, right now. You see how our potholes and our fucking roads are all fucked up, cement's fucked up, all homeless people are out on the streets, veterans out on the streets, you

Speaker 20you see all a bunch of bullshit out on the streets. You think that, our textiles could be used to help them, house them, y'know? Instead of, pouring out to you guys?

Speaker 18That has, nothing to do with Israel. We give about three point eight billion annually to Israel. It does. And, I suppose your solution is, if we cut three point eight billion, housing would be affordable again? It's way more than three point eight billion. It is. Okay. All right. so I was just

@joann_mariein Manhattan.

Speaker 20I was just in Manhattan just now. I'm actually in Manhattan now. I've been waiting for you. Okay. I'm looking at, I'm looking at, I'm looking at all those fucking buildings, all those open old buildings.

Speaker 18all kinds of people. Okay, this is fucking ridiculous. Not, not, not Black Rock, but Black Stone. Many people confuse the two.

Speaker 19No, you wanna know how greater Israel is bullshit for America. My entire life. I'm 33 years old, born in '92. I was 8 years old when the towers hit. You motherfuckers have sent Americans to die for your bullshit my entire fucking life, and I joined the Navy over that shit, and we have- All

Speaker 21paid for that. Oh, we only give so much to Israel every year. No, we have paid billions upon, billions upon, billions for your motherfucking bullshit. How dare you sit there and say that shit? Fuck you, Jews!

Speaker 18Okay, thank you for your service. I,

Ian Malcolmyeah, we gotta, we gotta stop that. I,

Speaker 18I received a death threat earlier today in, in diligence space. To his credit, he removed that spk. This, actually America guy sounds like he might be the next, death threat to you. Yeah, well, he didn't

@joann_mariethough. No,

Speaker 18no, no, no, no one threatened you. No, no, no,

@joann_marieno, no death threats. no, no, no, no, no,

Ian Malcolmno, no, no, no, Couple things. Number one, we disavow all violence or suggestions thereof. We've never had a single threat, against anybody in my business except me. I seem to get them quite a lot, Joanne, isn't that weird? trying to be friendly and, and lo and behold, people come and, and, want to hate on it. Yes, I don't want anybody to do anything harmful to you. I do find some of the kind of doublespeak that we saw there about control and not control, but you need control to make sure that we don

Ian MalcolmA lot of strange pieces of that, but what I would like to do to get this back a little bit on the rails, and, and oh, by the way, to suggest it's been a couple billion dollars that have gone to Israel while Donald Trump and the Department of War are literally calling to increase the defense budget, if I'm not mistaken, by five hundred billion dollars for next year alone so that they can blow up Iran for Israel and the Jews, it is kind of the extreme of gaslighting when you try to- Undermine the amount of money and resources that are going, to Israel. Yes, it's, it's just unreasonable. But let's go to Witsit. I know he had a question for you, and I feel like he kinda got over spoken.

Speaker 13Oh, yeah, I just, I don't believe you when you say that you think that we're all equal. So I just, I just wanna ask you a few questions. So like, what, what do you think about the idea of anti-Semitic hate speech laws in America?

Speaker 18I support them one hundred percent. I don't believe hate speech is, it's not free speech. It doesn't deserve any platform.

Speaker 13Okay, well of course, the First Amendment and the Supreme Court vehemently disagrees with you, and it is free speech by definition, right? But more so, like, why, why should Jews have laws protecting them from words that hurt their feelings, but not other groups of people? What makes Jews special?

Speaker 18there are plenty of, other groups like, blacks, latinos, for example, there's all kinds of, you can't go in the middle of the street and, God forbid, shout the, you know, the, the n-word, for example, who, who would do such a thing? And, and there was, legal protection

Speaker 13against that. You literally can do that, yeah. You literally can do that, okay? You might get tackled. Let's you, you might get tackled. Let's use Chubb the builder's case for And then got hit, whatever. People are saying, "Oh, well, you don't have self-defense." Just a second. You don't have self-defense if you provoke it. So the Supreme Court has ruled specifically, as much as case law in Tennessee additional to that, that slurs, insults, merely insults alone do not in any way account for provocation. Okay? So physical violence isn't justified because I insulted you and hurt your feelings. That includes racial slurs, no matter how vulgar they are, right? The Supreme Court's very clear with this. But what I'm asking you,

Speaker 13Groups of people have some type of protections, which is just something you made up, that isn't true. So I'm asking you, you say that you support the anti-Semitic speech laws, it's only protecting a specific group of people, you said you fully support them, so I'm asking you about the double standard there. Why should Jews have laws protecting them, but only that group of people?

Speaker 18Yeah, number one, if there aren't any other laws on the books, then hopefully this will be an inspiration to get other laws, passed for other ethnicities and other groups. Now, secondly, anti-Semitism, as we know, it mutates and it has, it had an insane, brutally disgusting history, and, you know, we saw what happened with Hasoal. There were real life, real consequences. Don't you think it's

@joann_mariebecause of Jewish behavior?

Speaker 18No, no. Real, real consequences to hate speech. Eventually, you know, That's, other stuff mentioned. Maybe you get somebody listening to this podcast who says, "Okay, Massey lost, there's nothing that, the, the white supremacist can do." Who gets to

Speaker 22decide? There's real world consequences to so-called hate speech, and who decides what is hate speech? It sounds like you've made yourself judge, jury, and executioner.

Speaker 18no, I'm not an, any, executioner, no. Hate speech is anything that rises to temperature that could lead to, wait, what about judge and

Ian Malcolmjuror?

Speaker 18I, I mean, look what happened with the mosque, today, for example.

Ian MalcolmDo you notice you dodged that one, honey?

Speaker 22One hundred.

Speaker 18I, I, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't dodge anything, but, my point is, is that we have, if you want a safe community, then we can't allow things to get out of control.

Speaker 13Israel, then, okay, because here in America we have free speech, right? And we understand the simple concept of having to give up a little bit of safety for liberty. Do you

Speaker 13Technically means I could abuse the use of that gun and someone could get hurt, but obviously the right to bear arms and defend yourself or to create well, well-regulated militias in the case of tyrannical government, that freedom, that liberty, right, the importance of it supersedes the, security issues that come with it. Do you understand that?

Speaker 18No. no, I, I disagree. this is why that you should go back to Israel. You disagree with the

Ian Malcolmfundamental fabric of the American- You disagree, but but he's stating fact. Right, that is, that is the law in most states. I, I, I don't understand why you're saying he's incorrect.

Speaker 18It, it, it shouldn't, it shouldn't be the law, just because you can have-

Ian MalcolmYou're universally just deciding to ignore

Speaker 18me. Your- Well, well, well, let me, let me explain to, to, to your, what's it, his right to carry, a loaded pistol should not supersede my right and my family's right to safety, just going to the mall,

Ian Malcolmfor

Speaker 18Big, big. We just, we just got done discussing it, did you, you just, you take a nap? I don't wanna

Speaker 13have a, dude, I don't wanna have a gun debate with you because it's so simple, and the fact you're making the argument so low IQ, it's kinda blowing my mind, but really quickly to put it into that, right? The states that have the least gun laws are the safest, okay? The most violent places in America have the strictest gun laws, because obviously criminals don't adhere to laws, and so now you just have a bunch of

Speaker 13What deters people from using them illegally for violent acts. That's, that they're still facts. Oh, those are all facts. But this is my point here. this is what, this, I'm, I'm highlighting and elucidating, right? The supremacist ideology that you have embedded, and some people claim-- Some people claim there's a genetic predisposition for it, right? And there are some pretty compelling studies-- I'm sorry to hear that. There's some pretty compelling studies for that, that Jews seem to have like a propensity to narcissism, for example. But I Have that. You're just speaking as though you should be able to change the fundamental nature and foundation of America and our values.

Speaker 18Well, let me, let, let

Speaker 20me also, yeah, it's, how mu- how much governmental assistance do you get from the government?

Speaker 18I'm not gonna discuss anything like that. Okay, okay, okay,

@joann_marieokay. Oh my God,

Speaker 18dude. Yeah, let me, let me say it like this, which is it? the, you know, states like Japan, Israel, the, the gun laws are not, as lax as they are here in the United States, and aside from terrorism, there's only been one mass shooting ever in Israeli history, and maybe that's because we do have a superior culture, no, offense taken. I think America could learn from, from our culture and, do better. For example, if Americans would be more religious, there might be less, gun violence, for example. So, you know, I'm not, I'm not saying

Speaker 20We ain't learning from your religion. You guys, you got, you got, you guys have dogs rape Palestinian prisoners, yo. That's, that's your religion, motherfucker. We don't want to be more ethnolocalist

Speaker 19like the Israelis. More

Speaker 18ethnolocalist like the Israelis, right? The, the dog report was totally fake. There was like four, four, four, two of them were the last shooting. No, yes. And what about Baruch

@joann_marieGoldstein? Two of them were the last shooting, but doesn't it not count because it was Palestinians?

Speaker 18Yes. No, no, no, no, no, no. The mass shooting took place at, at the Israeli,

@joann_marieyes. Okay, what about Baruch, Goldstein?

Speaker 18Well, well, that, that, that's, it wasn't a shooting, it

@joann_mariekilled Palestinians. That's, yes, it was, it was, it

Speaker 18was. And, and, and there was a, there was a

@joann_mariemass shooting like a month ago, settlers went and killed children in a school.

Speaker 18Yes, yes, but there is a lot of mass

@joann_marieshootings, but you don't count them because it's like crazy Jews killing Palestinians.

Speaker 18No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

@joann_marieno, no, no,

Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on. Yes, this is actually a very good question that Joanne just brought up. So you, you are defining, you're defining violent crime only as that which you deem of people? That's what we're hearing, because the Palestinians, I guess, don't, they, they're not classifiable as victims of mass shooting, is that what you're saying? No, no,

Speaker 18no. No. When, when I mention the Israeli population, that includes Israeli Arabs, of course. We're talking about, we're not talking about those in the territories, we're talking

Speaker 18That's the difference.

Speaker 20Yo, hey, it's-- Do you consider a Palestinian person a human being?

Speaker 18of course, a human being. This is a ridiculous question. Alright, cool, cool. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

Speaker 13you. I mean, some of them are good. I don't think dismissing them as terrorists

Speaker 18I didn't say all of the Moutaous, but, there were definitely, unfortunately a whole lot. Could you, could you, could you,

Speaker 20could you say that, some of your, the IDF soldiers are terrorists too? I'll,

Speaker 18I'll say that about Hertog Youth, which also targets Jews as well as, Palestinian Arabs. And, but, but also most of the time about settler violence, it's like, you know, somebody, you know, hits, they strike a red light,

Speaker 18You're talking

@joann_marieabout Jews like seriously? Wait, come

Speaker 13on. Like, this is, yeah, no, it's psychotic. You get that he's elucidating the point without even realizing it repeatedly, right? Like, you are supremacists, and what I've found is that a lot of you guys don't even realize that you're supremacists, and there can be like a nature versus nurture argument there, like if you've just been raised that way, if there's a predisposition, if it's a combination of both, doesn't matter. But like, there's many questions I can ask you,

Speaker 13So you're aware that Israel has nuclear weapons?

Speaker 18Yes, of course. Okay, and that they're

Speaker 13nuclear ambiguous.

Speaker 18Could you repeat that your microphone?

Speaker 13They're

Speaker 18nuclearly ambiguous. Yes, yes, that's done for a good reason. So that they're- Oh, okay.

Speaker 13Okay. So you think that Israel should be the only country in the world, in existence, that doesn't have to, that doesn't have to reveal they have nuclear weapons?

Speaker 18It's a very smart move if you don't want the other Arab states to have an excuse to waste total bomb, like for example, Egypt.

Speaker 13Every country in existence has to reveal they have nuclear weapons.

Speaker 18That's not true, that's not true about Pakistan or North Korea.

Speaker 13They have revealed they have nuclear weapons, they just haven't adhered to all the regulations, okay? They have revealed they have nuclear weapons, though.

Speaker 18Yes, but I'm trying to explain to you, what's it, that what Israel is doing is, it's a very smart policy. The policy,

Speaker 13you were wrong. You were wrong.

Speaker 18What, what, what was I wrong about?

Speaker 13That's not true, you name North Korea and Pakistan, but it is true they both have revealed that they have nuclear weapons.

Speaker 18Yeah, yeah, well, well, I mean, I mean, that's not a hill I'm gonna die on. Whatever, you know, I don't care about that. The point I'm talking about is the nuclear ambiguity policy in Israel makes sense one hundred percent. It gives the Arab government an excuse not to, you know, pursue their own nuclear program.

Ian MalcolmHang

Ian Malcolmon, hang on, hang on, hang on. I didn't ask you to, to Israel is the only country in the world that maintains a formal, long-standing official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also called nuclear opacity. in Hebrew, it's got the, the terminology there. So, so to back up Witz's comment there, it's, Israel's the only nation that behaves like this. W- w- why do you find that agreeable? Yeah. And,

Speaker 18and, I'll ask a question back to him. just, you know, he claimed that Israel's, supremacist state Also twenty-one percent of Israeli Arabs who enjoy full civil rights. And so I will ask the question back to him, has Israel ever dropped a nuclear bomb on, on anyone? No, no, no,

Speaker 13no, but we're not gonna deflect, right? there's only one country that's ever supposedly dropped a nuclear bomb, my guy. Okay, United States. Listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. I am well aware of the tactical advantage that comes with being ambiguous, okay? In fact, it comes to severe disadvantages

Speaker 13States don't know your red line, right? They don't know how much they can attack you before you would then nuke them back. It also puts America at a huge disadvantage when it comes to us having to support you or us not really being able to go to the table with any type of leverage in negotiation, right? It hel- it helps you, it hurts everyone else. No duh, okay? That's kind of the point. That's what a supremacists would think, is that, "Oh, well, I'm the only country that doesn't have to do it, but it is To the point, it's very simple, dude. If, listen, listen, if a country was to remain nuclearly ambiguous, it would be advantageous tactically to all. Okay? I'm talking about Israel being the only country in the world. Do you think Israel should get to be the only country in the world that doesn't have to reveal they have nuclear weapons?

Speaker 18So how about we put the question like this, if, why doesn't America adopt this policy?

Speaker 16Well, how much longer are we gonna, are we gonna tolerate these demons?

@joann_marieStop, stop deflecting and actually answer the question without, like doing no,

Speaker 18no, it's a, it's a serious question. If you, if you think it's, it's a great policy, which I think it is, and you think it's unfair, just adopt the policy yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on. Yeah, it would also be a great policy if I'm the, attempting to be the leader of the world, right? The ultimate ruler of everything. It'd be a wonderful policy if every world leader had to have one of my

Ian MalcolmCall them an anti-semite, right? That would be a benefit to me. Does that mean that is a reasonable policy for you to suggest that is, let's say just, fair, righteous, or proper?

Speaker 18No, I'm saying if you're complaining about it and but you think it's a smart policy, it makes sense to adopt it. So what you're saying

Ian Malcolmis Israel can behave like unjust, psychopathic lunatics, and you're going to claim that it is of benefit to them, so therefore is good, and that other nations should just follow in those footsteps if they wanna be as good as you would define it as Israel, is that right?

Speaker 18Yeah, nuclear ambiguity doesn't make us, lunat- lunat- lunatic, psychopaths, but I, I suppose the Samson option is, it's, that's a last resort and it's probably never gonna happen. That make

Ian Malcolmyou psychopaths and lunatics?

Speaker 18I'm sure the United States have its own Samson option. I'm sure Russia and China have their own. A-actually, what's the difference? It's, it's mad. It's the same policy. if, if, if we nuke everyone, the world would end anyway. The United States has a policy where they're gonna

Speaker 13nuke our allies before we go down.

Speaker 18No, no, no The point I am trying to-- The point was that you said a lot of-- No, you

@joann_mariemissed the point, kids. What the fuck? You said a

Speaker 18lot of-- The point is, the point is, if Russia were to nuke the United States, the United States would fire back, and it'd be the end of the world anyway. But that's

Speaker 13not the same thing as Israel's "Samson Option," where they said they'll literally nuke everybody.

Speaker 18If, if Pakistan nuked us and we, shot back, it'd be the end of the world anyway,

Speaker 13so it

Speaker 13The memo was literally declassified. LA, New York City, multiple cities in the US. I, I,

Speaker 18I doubt it's true, it's probably false, but if it were true, it's just, it's just like mad. It, it doesn't, it doesn't- How would it be- How would it be- If it was true, if it

Ian Malcolmwas true, it's not a big deal. Should- Should- So you are a

Speaker 13supremacist, you are a supremacist. Should Israel be the only country in the world that doesn't have to reveal they have nukes, yes

Speaker 18This isn't even a supremacist, how-how even if you were white, I wouldn't have- Then you answered the question you didn't hear. Everyone's sick of you. Answer

Speaker 13the question for fuck's sake. Yeah, yes or no?

Speaker 18No. Well, we're not a supremacist state, I just made that point. First and simple, enjoy your- That wasn't the question. That

Speaker 13wasn't the question. You can't just change the question. Should Israel be allowed to be the only country in the world that doesn't have to reveal they have nukes? Yes or no?

Speaker 18yes, if we're smart enough to get away with it, then too bad.

@joann_marieThat is a premise, isn't it? This is, this is why we can talk with you people. Like, this, it's crazy. Yeah, well, it's a good

Speaker 18policy.

Speaker 19Yes, let me ask you a question. Let me ask you a question because we're calling you all right now. You're not smart enough to get--

Ian MalcolmHold on, actually. Yeah, so let me ask you a question, a-along the lines of what you just said. I want, I want to read this back to you. This is your own logic. You just said, "If we're smart enough to get away with it, or if we can get away with it, then why shouldn't we not do it?" Right? So if Jewish

Ian MalcolmThe courts, they control the academic institutions, they control the tech companies, and they can literally come and just murder me because I am problematic and get away with it. Do you also support that?

Speaker 18Minus the, execution part, if it were true, and it would be good for, it would be good for our, for our community, but, I, I don't think it's true.

Ian MalcolmDo you think I present a problem to Jewish supremacists because I talk about this issue a lot?

Speaker 18you present a problem to normative Jews, to just anyone, an-any, even non-Jewish. It's given that I present a

Ian Malcolmproblem to the Jews, if the, if the Jews, to use your term, could come and get me in the middle of the night And they can get away with it. Does that therefore make it a good thing because it would be a benefit to Jews in Israel? I,

Speaker 18I believe, in that, hate speech should not have a platform and, there should be some sort of, punishment, perhaps, hefty fine, for example. maybe a few nights in jail. this is, you know, we live in a very, delicate world, and, and at any moment, the scaffolding could come down and, and everything could be chaotic at, at any time. We have to be very careful. I think you're a guest,

Speaker 23you're

Speaker 18a guest.

Speaker 23You're

Speaker 18in a delicate world.

Speaker 23Do you realize you're a visitor? You're a guest.

Speaker 18No, no, I'm not a guest. My ancestors came back, and I'm not going to say how far back, but pretty far back, further than you would imagine, pre-soa time, and, we've been here for a long time, and I don't consider myself a guest. I'm a proud American citizen.

Speaker 13You're arguing against fundamental American principles. And so I'm not gonna have those debates with you 'cause they're retarded, but like, luckily, we don't care what you have to say, okay? We're allowed to say whatever we wanna say, and you're not gonna ever be able to stop it. And is it, it, it's not for long there. When, when, when, not

Ian Malcolmfor long. What do you mean by that?

Speaker 18Yeah. Yeah, there's gonna be more laws passed against hate speech. It's, it's, it's inevitable, it's gonna happen.

Ian MalcolmSo

Speaker 18Say

Ian Malcolmagain. Who is going to push to have those passed?

Speaker 18Any person with a decency in their heart, any, anyone who's a good person, who doesn't want a hatred on our streets.

Speaker 13Do you understand the danger in allowing that to happen? Can you still man the, the argument against it?

Speaker 18Of course, theoretically, there was, you know, who decides? I get that, that argument, but I think this is pretty clear cut. I don't think antisemitism is up to interpretation.

Speaker 13It literally is, actually, that's why there's a defining antisemitism,

Speaker 18like- It, it, it is, it is, it is

Speaker 13antisemitic. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Israel to the Nazis, then that's anti-Semitic hate speech. If you claim that Jews run a lot of the banking and the media, which is an objective fact, that's anti-Semitic. If you claim that Jews killed Jesus, that's anti-Semitic. That is all in the Romans. The Romans killed him? Okay, who ordered that? Who ordered, who ordered for him to be killed?

Speaker 18Read Tacitus. I've, I've had this discussion a hundred times. Who, who

Speaker 13demanded he be killed?

Speaker 18The Romans. Read Tacitus. You're

Speaker 13incorrect. The Jews demanded he was killed. So according According to the, the Bible, and the all historical records. No, no, no, no,

Speaker 18no, according to your Bible. No, no, all historical records, all

Speaker 13historical records.

Speaker 18No, no, wait, Tathes, he said the Romans, you want to talk about history, we can talk about history, I'm very good at it. No, I think we should clear that up. They're not

Speaker 13that good at it. But wait, wait, wait, wait, it doesn't,

Speaker 18it doesn't even matter, right? The point

Speaker 13is, you're saying that the- Oh It's,

Speaker 18it's religion, it's not history, my friend. That, that's incorrect. Oh, of course, you're not, you're not my friend. That's

Speaker 13incorrect. Atheist scholars almost unanimously agree, whenever you take the same historicity standards of anything else, and you take Paul, for example, he is well known to be a valuable historian author. And in fact, in fact, if you throw him out, you have to discount a lot of other extra-biblical historical sources. This is well known, well known within the academic, academic world of history. So,

Speaker 18yeah Endless contradictions, but it's great history. Okay, see, so you didn't address

Speaker 13what I'm saying at all. But this is the bigger point here, right? Like, do you get that when you claim that Israel can do something that no one else in the world can do, that is supremacist?

Speaker 18It's not suprasist, it's using your brain, it's being smart. So do you

Speaker 13understand that, do you understand that people reveal it because even though it would be tactically advantageous not to reveal it, in good faith for humanity, we have all agreed that we will reveal when we have nuclear weapons so everyone can know because it literally flirts with the ability to end existence. What,

Speaker 18what, so do you not, do you not know human psychology? You think Russia is going to reveal how many nuclear weapons they have? I can't under-- I can't believe I'm hearing this You think China's going to reveal the nuclear weapon stockpiles they have? Yeah. You think they're not inventing all kinds of new weapons against us? Why would they reveal the S code?

Speaker 13Wait, China already has revealed it. And it goes all the way back to like the '60s.

Speaker 18Yes, but, but, but beyond that, they're not going to re-reveal new technologies, new biological weapons.

Speaker 13It doesn't

Speaker 18matter. First of all, first of all, it doesn't matter. It does matter. No, no, no. If you

Speaker 13want a military edge on your Because

Speaker 18it's a sign of strength.

Speaker 13It's a sign of strength to be able to- It's, it's, it's not because, it's not because they wanna

Speaker 18babysit you or they give a crap about you, with it. It's because they wanna say, "We're more powerful than you." That's all what it's about. No, I'm, I'm, I'm amazed you don't understand simple, basic concepts.

Speaker 13Do you know the history of how that became a thing?

Speaker 18The Chinese nuclear program?

Speaker 13No, no, no, no, like people having to reveal

Speaker 18Well, I, I mean, after, Ho- after Hiroshima, I mean, of course, the Soviet Union was gonna be really quick to announce they had the same capabilities.

Speaker 13That's not what happened. Do, do you know what MPT

Speaker 18is? Yes, the non-proliferation treaty, yes.

Speaker 13Okay. And so, do you know when that started?

Speaker 18It wasn't that like in the fifties?

Speaker 13No, not almost 1970, 1968. Okay. And, and like it really started in '70. Okay. So this is well after Japan, bro. Had nothing to do with the Soviet Union, okay? Although the Soviet Union was one of the countries, right? So you have like Russia, Russia, UK, France, China, United States, whatever, the primary five, and then you have like almost two hundred other countries, right? All, all committing to not develop nukes, and then you have a couple outliers, you have like India, Pakistan, North Korea, and they're outside NPT, but they have declared them Declare that they have it, right? Through official statements, it is only Israel who, by the way, stole the capability.

Speaker 18No, we, we co-developed it with France, and you know better than

Speaker 13that. No, no, no, you stole it. No, that's not true. No, no For us to also reveal nuclear weapons as, as everyone else, even China and Russia, adversaries, right, like total adversaries, have still put their differences aside enough for the understanding that this flirts with erasure of existence and humanity altogether, they'd have agreed that we won't let people know when we have the nukes so everyone can be on the same page and know where, you know, existence-ending technology is. Okay. And Israel's like, "Yeah, but we care more about our self-preservation and specifically the tactical advantage we have with you not knowing what we have or that we have it. So we don't really care about the rest of humanity. We are the one country that is superior to all the rest."

Speaker 18Okay, which said this is, this is nonsensical because everybody knows, most likely ninety-nine percent of Israel has nuclear weapons. Everybody already knows it. So it's kind of just more like, For sale, in that sense, and it's just an excuse so the Arab government can tell their people, "We're technically- Okay, then tell

@joann_marieeveryone, like why, why do you need to- Everybody already knows,

Speaker 23everybody knows.

@joann_marieNo, you, you need to tell your government to tell everyone.

Speaker 23Yeah, I have debates all the time where Jewish people will say, "I don't know, we may not, I really, I don't think so. " In the- Well, well, you know,

Speaker 18well, you know what, there's, there's a one percent chance that we're But it would be a pretty amazing bluff if you pulled it off.

Speaker 13No, no, you know, in fact, back in the day, whenever you were being attacked, you actually rolled out your nuclear arsenal so that the satellites could see them, basically to tell the US they had to intervene. But you actually used the nuclear weapons to strong arm the United States to intervene on your behalf. And what was the,

Speaker 18and what was the intervention, just, supplies? Yeah, the biggest supplies

Speaker 13of weapons that America- Because if we didn't supply you, what would have happened?

Speaker 18We were, we were, we could have ran out.

Speaker 13You would have died. Yeah, you would have got wrecked. You were getting wrecked. But this is-

Speaker 18no, no, no, no, we wouldn't have gotten wrecked because, according to you, we have nuclear weapons, so we could always, pull that. So what if my point, what if my

Speaker 13point, you will just blow up- But only against- No, no, not everybody, just against our enemies.

Speaker 13That's not And fight our enemies for us, then we will take them out too.

Speaker 18No, no, no, this is nonsense. we don't, we've never asked anyone, and, and in fact, there's an argument that you could make that, you know, too bad Trump, you didn't get involved, didn't you, Ron? Because now for the rest of history, you people will point the finger and say Americans bled and died on behalf of Israel prior to this conflict, over and over

Ian Malcolmagain, yes.

Speaker 18No, no, no, no, no, no. Prior to the conflict

Speaker 24That's

@joann_mariewhy I'm living proof that we

Speaker 18fought for Israel. They're just shamelessly

Speaker 24lying. They're

Speaker 13shamelessly lying. Name, name, name me, name me the American brigade that fought for independence. What actually-- What actually, what actually, what actually, what actually, what actually, what actually, are you trying to suggest that Iran, you could have handled Iran by yourself?

Speaker 18I'm saying it's a small argument that maybe we should have attempted it.

Speaker 13You didn't even, you didn't even put ground troops. You openly stated almost immediately that you guys wouldn't deploy any ground troops, but guess what you did do with your ground troops right after the conflict with Iran started? When into Lebanon, displaced a million people. That's because Lebanon, because the reason that you got us to go against Iran is because that was the real thing holding you back, right, from being able to start to take over the greater Israel. And so what you did was you, you can laugh, but is it a coincidence that as soon as we went and started fighting Iran, you started expanding into Lebanon?

Speaker 18Yeah, yeah. The, the, the great, the great expansion, three point five percent. Wow, what an incredible ex-what an incredible expansion. Next time, write a love letter to your But you're just saying you're upset

Speaker 13that they haven't taken over enough land for you yet. Like, didn't you just open the land? You think that Israel, you think Israel's entitled to taking over all the surrounding area of Greater Israel, yes or no?

Speaker 18Israel was torn to Sinai, which is it? What are you talking about?

Speaker 13Do you think Israel is entitled to taking over Greater Israel, yes or no?

Speaker 18Greater Israel is just Yehuda, Samaun, Judea and Samaria, that I believe in, everything else, no.

Speaker 25Yeah, so we're pretty much already in this guy's head. We know what he's gonna say, and, like this whole thing is set up, like you're right, about the Greater Israel project, but the big thing is the project of a new American century, which, We take out seven countries in seven years, I think it was back in the nineties.

Speaker 25And Iran was supposed to be the big finale, and it was supposed to collapse us and give Israel all the power in the Middle East, all of our power, all of our military power and technology, like satellites and, you know

Speaker 18Well, let me tell you a little story. No, no, no, let's not.

@malleusigOh, we don't need your story. And the latest conflict, the cards,

Speaker 18the cards were ready to for the ground invasion in Saudi Arabia, in Turkey, in Qatar, and all these countries said no, don't, dude, you are literally a

Speaker 25troglodyte. You need to quit. Nobody cares what the fuck you have to say, really.

Speaker 18Well, apparently somebody does, 'cause Massey got his ass whooped.

Speaker 18Okay.

@joann_marieYou're, you're just entertaining us for a little bit.

Speaker 26All right, hey, hey guys, guys, about an hour ago, I was, told I was gonna have the mic. Yeah, yeah,

Ian Malcolmgo for it, KP.

Speaker 26Yeah. Go for it. Okay, great. So I, I've got, I've got two or three quick points to make, but of course, I, I've got, two quick questions for you, idiots. And first of all, thank you very much for, for being here and, and, and, and putting up with us. you're, you're the only representative of your tribe that's willing to do that, and I very much appreciate it. That's a genuine heartfelt, thank you. Okay, with that said, you're welcome. With that said,

Speaker 26on the, to, to maintain the vein of the, the nuclear conversation, so, I've got one very simple question for you. How, in, in your estimation, how was this capability obtained? This nuclear capability

Speaker 18of Israel, it was obtained through a cooperation with the French government, which also wanted nuclear weapons, and there's a lot of scientific, jargon that, you know, you could research that you're into it, but it was basically a cooperation between Israel and the France, because the French realized early on that, if the Soviet Union started attacking Europe, the Un-Uni-the United States might not risk, World War II on behalf of France. So they decided to, do a program

Speaker 26Historical, do you have any, a link

Speaker 18to any historical data that backs that up? Oh, the, I mean, you could just do a simple, wiki search, I would imagine. And, and, and France allied with Israel because we were giving them intelligence in terms of the,

Speaker 26the

Speaker 18There's a really good video by a casual historian on YouTube, you could, feel free to watch it, both parts. It's very informative.

Speaker 26No, yes, I'm asking you to put the, post the receipts in the pill like everyone else. You're not special. You're making a claim, back it up with the receipt. That's what we all do. I'd have to,

Speaker 18okay, I can go to YouTube and I can snatch the video and, and you can, I'll post it, give me a moment, please.

Speaker 26Okay, great, thanks. w- okay, my, my last quick question. now, now this, please don't blow this off, please, please give this a, a, a, the respect, this, please give the reply the respect it means. Please define the word "anti-Semitic."

Speaker 18Okay, I apologize. as I was getting on YouTube, it cut off the audio. Could you please repeat your question? It was something about defining antisemitism?

Speaker 26Yeah. I'd like you to define the etymology of the word. Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 18Okay, okay. Thanks. So it was coined by, by a Jew man. he was, he was a Jew hater. He coined the, the term. Okay, but please, please do two,

Speaker 26please do two things at once. Just because you're talking doesn't mean you can't go

Speaker 18Yeah, yeah, well, I'll find the video after the question because then, if the sound cuts out, it wouldn't be a problem then because I assume we'll go to other guests. And, I could-- It's about, 1:45 AM, and I might just drop in a few moments anyway, so I'll, I'll, I'll put the video up, don't worry. I'll, I'll put it in the poll, but first I'll answer your question. So antisemitism is very unique because it is the only hatred, in existence that actually mutates, first it was about because we apparently killed Jesus, then it turned into because, of our ethnicity. Now today, it's, anti-Israel is, is like the,

Speaker 18the anti-Israel is like the mask, for Jew hatred, and even that has, somewhat lifted, and now it's just back to the, racial, discrimination. So or

Speaker 23flooding

Speaker 19everybody with the immigrants.

Speaker 18You forgot about

Speaker 19that one. Or flooding everybody's countries with immigrants, you forgot about that one.

Speaker 26Hold on, you're not addressing the question. I asked for the etymology of the word itself.

Speaker 18Yes, it's, it's, it regards the language of, of, of the Semitic language of Hebrew, and it was applied to, to Jews, and, that's the etymology that, so if you're an anti, anti, Jews, you're anti the Hebrew language, anti,

@joann_marieso I understand. Okay, okay.

Speaker 26Okay, yeah, okay. So the Hebrew language is, is a Semitic language. And, and they incorrectly applied

Speaker 18it to ethnicity.

Speaker 26What other, what other

@joann_marieSemitic

Speaker 26languages

Speaker 18exist? Yeah, but I know, I know what you're trying to- Isn't

Speaker 25Hebrew only like six hundred years old?

@joann_marieIt's less, like two hundred.

Speaker 26Wait, wait, hold on, guys, hold on, let me let me draw the line. Yeah, yeah, it's what other Semitic languages are there besides Hebrew?

Speaker 18of course, Arabic, you know, there's multiple, Semitic languages, but the point is, is that you're playing a semantic game because you usually, Arabic, what else? Arabic, for example, when somebody says they don't anti-Semite, they usually mean Jews, they don't mean elves or, or anyone else. No, no, no, no, no. No,

@joann_marieI think it also means Palestinians.

Speaker 26No, hold on, hold on. So again, again, let's, let's focus, focus, stay, stay focused on this. So the, the etymology you said is it's language based, right? So you said that there's, you stated three languages, Hebrew, Aramaic, and of course, Arabic. So according to you The, those three languages are Semitic, right? So how, how is it that the,

Speaker 26that the, the common vernacular has, has isolated it to one of those three languages in the common vernacular? Yes,

Speaker 18and I, I was, yes, I was in the middle of explaining that. So the, the man who co-edited, he was a Jew Hedo, and he just, applied it only to Jews, and that has stuck, and maybe it should be updated to simply Jew Hedo, and that would be more accurate. I agree with

@joann_marieI think your hatred means what, what the Jews hate, which is all of us. And,

Speaker 26and why, why, and why is it that the Jews are universally discriminated against?

Speaker 18I'll be, I'll be gentle, I'll be gentle. That might be something more spiritual, you know, we are, we were chosen by, by God, by Hashem, not because we're special genetically, although we do, you know, tend to have, tend to have the highest, average IQ, but, that's okay because I don't think anyone can blame anyone. Would you like to,

Speaker 26would you like to jump in there, please? Yeah,

Ian MalcolmI've, I've debunked that. what's the average IQ in Israel, yes?

Speaker 18That's, I don't wanna get into it because,

Speaker 18I don't, there's reasons for why that's the case. So let me ask you a question, because you're really

Ian Malcolmbright, right? So if the average IQ in Israel is 93 and 30-ish percent of Israel are Ashkenazi Jews, what could you presume would be the average IQ of Ashkenazi Jews in Israel?

Speaker 18The average, scholastic IQ is anywhere from one o seven to one fifteen. Okay, so let's say it's one fifteen. So let's do some math here. With all respect, with all respect, it's lowered because, for example, Israeli elbs, but I don't want to pick on any of the- No, no, no, I, I, yes, I know, but let's do the math. The IQ can be raised.

Ian MalcolmLet's do the math. So if thirty percent have an IQ of one fifteen, what would that mandate that the other sixty

Speaker 18That average IQ is about 86, unfortunately, and, you know, it is what it is.

Ian MalcolmIt would have to be actually lower than that, so at what point, at what point would you presume all of the other people that are in Israel are essentially about as intelligent as sub-Saharan Africans, if not Indians, and therefore something like two standard deviations below Europeans?

Speaker 18This is a very controversial topic. I don't want to offend anyone. I believe, like you, it's ultimately environmental. I believe that it can be raised in other communities with the proper education. But the reasons for why it is, it is, collectively lowered now, that could change.

Ian MalcolmSo, so, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So how about this, how about this then? So why is it that Jews underperform so extremely, in a study done on New York schooling, if you were to compare either Jewish private schools versus non-Jewish schools? Why do you think

Speaker 18Well, actually there was a study once done, I believe it might have been in the '60s, and it, it, like the, the eighty, of the brightest kids in New York, they, like sixty percent of them were, like seventy percent of them were Jews. So it's, you're, you're, you're dodging my

Ian Malcolmquestion. Why do you think Jewish private schools drastically underperform both private non-Jewish schools and even some public non-Jewish schools?

Speaker 18Well, if you're talking about, you see, vote whether or not, I, I mean, I mean, they're not learning about evolution, for example, in science, but, the overall, they're already doing math,

Ian Malcolmright?

Speaker 18Yes, yes, but, but, but let me ask you a question then, yes. So why is it the Jews

Ian Malcolmwho don't learn even the most basic of math, how do they all end up in these high-paying finance roles? How does, how does that make any sense? Not,

Speaker 18not, not all of them do. You can, I know a Jewish family through a web poll who could barely afford a, a two-star resort to go on vacation. But I was going to say that, the problem with this, the problem with this, it's, it's I think it's abstract intelligence, like, like a whist, so for example, maybe you don't know about evolution, but overall, yes, you're smart, and you could pick up on it fast. Yes, yes. Do you think they ask you questions about

Ian Malcolmevolution, IQ test? Is that what you're suggesting?

Speaker 18No, no, no, no, no. You, you're missing my point. let me repeat it. Let's say you're in a, a Haredi yeshiva and you don't learn about evolution, but because you're innately smarter, if you decided to study it on your own, you could pick it up faster. Then maybe someone who has- Yes, you're

Ian Malcolmnow presuming that there's content that individuals would have to pick up for IQ tests. That's not how those tests work, you know that, right? Yes.

Speaker 18No, no, well, well. Not exactly, you're right about that. It's more basic about pattern recognition, for example, how, how fast do you see the dots? How many dots on the page? If you, if you can see ten dots at once, for example, give out to five. I understand all of that. Right.

Ian MalcolmAnd, and recall, and, and Jews underperform in almost every category with the exception of linguistics. You know that, right?

Speaker 18Yeah, yeah, yeah, space, so you know, that's why we're not great architects like the Chinese. Go, go to Tel Aviv, go to Jerusalem, not a problem. Do you think maybe,

Ian Malcolmdo you think maybe if most of the supposed high IQ Jewish, let's say, rhetoric is based on very, very limited studies that essentially did away with all the other categories of intellect and only focused on verbal, and then used that to presume the derived IQ on average, do you think maybe there would be- No, dishonest with those studies.

Speaker 18No, no, let, let's, let's examine your claim for a minute. How would we know that we weren't about average on space or index if we never measured it? I mean, clearly it's these other, indexes, they, they were measured, they were measured. Yes, they were measurable. Yes, yes, they were just like the verbal ability. Yes, and

Ian Malcolmthey,

Speaker 18they underperformed in those categories, in those categories. Yeah, yeah, so it's, yeah, yeah. And, and, and but, but look That's the exact kind of skill set you needed to survive in a ghetto. It, it all makes sense. No, I, I would

Ian Malcolmagree. Jews are good with language. I think that's probably why you, you participated pilpul, perhaps why you're lawyers. But as you admitted, right? You're, you're terrible with engineering. Well, you know, I'd like to challenge

Speaker 26that. I'd like to challenge that. How, how, how many members of the Hasidic community have we ever seen in the national spelling bee challenge? Challenge? contest, right?

Speaker 18yeah, the, I, I mean, I mean, they probably don't even know its existence, to be fair. You know, they, they kind of- Why? It's a very high, it's an

Speaker 26academic honor to, to, for a child to be, a, a champion. Yes, but, but they don't,

Speaker 18they don't participate, they don't participate in that kind of thing. I mean, many, and they're so

Speaker 26brilliant with language and pattern recognition, why aren't they showing off their

Speaker 18I am a reform, for example, and even me, they would be like, "Uh, you're like a, almost like a goy in the sense of,

Speaker 22the

Speaker 18cultural..." And if, and, no, no, the way they look at, the way they look at- Oh my God, you just

Speaker 19did it,

Speaker 18Yitz.

Speaker 26Well, generic, non-generic language. Almost like a goy. Wait, no,

Ian MalcolmJP, let's, let's focus on this. So within your Jewish community, in your reform community, they'd be like, "No, you're

Speaker 18Yes, a minority of them believe that they are the pinnacle of Croatian and that they are even superior to other Jews. A minority? You just

Ian Malcolmsaid that all of your other Jewish Reform friends would say, "Oh, you're like a goy."

Speaker 18no, no, you mis- you misheard what I said. I said if you go to, if you go to a Hasidic community and you say, "I'm Reform, I don't keep a kashrut, for example," you know, I, I keep half, half sebob, I don't do the yom tov, they would say like, "Uh, are you really that, Jewish in terms of your belief?" I mean, I get it, your ethnicity, you know, da da da, but, you're almost like a non

Speaker 18I don't know if I would be smart. They would say, "Have you put the filling on?" I'm just

Ian Malcolmso glad these

Speaker 18pages are recorded,

@joann_marieJoe.

Speaker 18So, so

@joann_marieyou think that the boy are like dumber,

Speaker 24right? I, I just wonder how smart you really are at this, when it comes to like mathematics. Can you tell me what the Pythagorean theorem is? The, the,

Speaker 18the, the, the

Speaker 27Yeah, yeah, I think you said it on the side. You define IQ as being fast in solving problems and understanding things. But

Speaker 13you

Speaker 18don't know what the Pythagorean theorem is. Is that IQ? The, the, what is IQ? The, the,

Speaker 13Wait, this has been thoroughly debunked, like Dr. The Jewish IQ myth has been thoroughly debunked. This is what doesn't know

Speaker 24basic math. No, you were saying the Pythagorean

Ian Malcolmtheorem, and, and we can go into that. But what's it-- no, it, it is, and, and this is why it's so curious, because what, what, what Yitz basically conceded is that, yes, Jews are basically mediocre in all forms of, of, let's say, studied renditions of the categories loosely defined within IQ tests. The one that they do well in, and Verbal, right? But basically what that means is that they're not good at doing a lot of things except maybe convincing you that they are, which is very curious. Like they

Speaker 13actually, they actually test very-

Speaker 18Morally and like

Speaker 13visual, visuospatial and reasoning. Yes. I, I All like relied upon like three, subs sets of tests, and one of them they just took like Jewish kindergarteners from like a private Jewish school, and they hand selected the highest scores, the highest scoring students, and then they dropped it. It sounds like a

Speaker 18conspiracy. It sounds like a conspiracy.

Speaker 13It's just a known fact, it, it's literally what happened, right? Like that's what- Can you,

Speaker 18can you, link it in the, yeah, sure.

Speaker 13Look, look, look, Levenson, nineteen fifty-seven, Jewish kinderg Kindergarten applicants. It was just a tiny, selective group of applicants from a private Jewish day school in New York or Jewish day schools in New York from affluent parents and didn't actually represent the, the pop- the Jewish population as a whole. If you look over here, nineteen seventy-two is where, what I just said, they actually intentionally only took the parts of the test that they scored better in. And then if you look over here in

Speaker 13two thousand, three thousand, four, which is Lynn, which is the Only test, right? You have, again, it refers to like just the highest parts of the scores and then they omitted the rest. They literally cherry-picked the, the high score examples.

Speaker 18Most of them usually support, average asking as the IQ being pretty high. I've read this whole book on the topic, you never mentioned anything about cherry-picking any studies that- We just had

Speaker 26an entire conversation about that,

Speaker 13okay? We're focusing on vocabulary subsets like WAIS are similar rather than full-scale IQ batteries.

Speaker 24You know, this conversation has gone so far away from what we were originally talking about, and that was about hate in itself, about hate speech.

Speaker 13With the supremacy dude, is that they actually believe that they're intellectually superior to all of us, and that's actually not even true.

Speaker 18Well, you read a page of Talmud and see if you understand it,

Speaker 13Tifti.

Speaker 26So, just, We have to give no, no,

Speaker 13no, it's, it's just

Ian Malcolma lack of morality, let's be real.

Speaker 24A slightly above average person without a moral compass is capable of doing so much more than someone who has a genius intellect that is- And, and let's, let's be real,

Ian Malcolmeven, even if we were to throw out any and all other forms of history upon which we could base a value assessment on morality, within this very conversation, we've had Yitz demonstrate that amongst- His chosenites, he refers to everybody else as, "Oh, you're being like a goy." He tried to justify that Israel is perfectly fine to participate or not participate in standards that everybody else agrees to for the mutual beneficial output for humanity, and then it's because they're smart and clever that they don't do it. No, it's because they're not willing to be good neighbors. It's very simple, it's very straightforward.

Speaker 18You, you misquoted me though. I was talking about the Hasidic- It's a Hasidic community, specifically Hasidic community, that's what they would say,

Ian Malcolmtalk to someone in the community, they would look down on non-Jews, that's what you said, you also said that. No, no, no, no, no,

Speaker 18no, no, I, no, I said they would look down on anyone, everyone basically, they would look down on the whole community. You used the term

Ian Malcolmgoy, yes, yes, you used the term goy.

Speaker 18Yeah, yeah, they would look down upon everyone.

Ian MalcolmThey would look at, okay, we can agree. Look, look, look, look, here's what I find, here's what

Speaker 18I find, here's what I find where we hilarious and ironic for, for Witch City. He believes that we are actually not a smart and actually that, you know, the anti-Semites are smart. He believes that the anti-Semites are smart, and yet somehow we control everything and, we cheated and made Massly lose because a bunch of

Speaker 18non- Non-Jewish Americans voted against Massey because we convinced them to vote against their interest, and that's what you believe in. So I mean, your own argument refutes, your own secondary argument, kind of elucidating the ineptitude

Speaker 13that I'm pointing out, ironically, right? Because he-- they just addressed why that would occur, extreme levels of nepotism, and if there were to be, I don't know, a lack of a moral compass, right? A lack of a linear code of ethics or integrity or morality, or I don't know, an ideology of Ethnic supremacy, for example, that still somehow circumvents morality, right? And it's selective, doesn't need to be applied to all groups of people equally, then you would be able to do that very thing, right? You would be able to, usher in up the higher ranks. For example, if you just do DEI but for Jews, right? Like if me and you went to go get a job and the CEO was a Jew, and I could just dominate you in every way possible in the interview process, et cetera, I could bring in ten times more sales in the

Speaker 13Okay? I know many, I know, I know a lot of Jewish people, and if you're Jewish, and they find out who your family is, you're guaranteed a job, right? That's-

Speaker 26Well, that's nepotism, that's generic. Yeah, and by the way, I don't even think nepotism

Speaker 13is inherently evil, right? Like I think that white people probably could have done better in certain ways with some in-group preference, and I think- Well, here's, here's a

Speaker 18question for you, but- But wait, let me finish

Speaker 13my point here

Speaker 27Nepotism, and that's okay.

Speaker 13And let's say America specifically is so beautiful, is that we're high trust, but that is the same thing that has been used as our biggest vulnerability by groups such as this that use nepotism and then circumvent morality, right? When you're super

Speaker 21high trust, you're gonna get caught by them. Glad I could

Speaker 18teach you a new word. You claim that, that Warren Buffett's not smart, and yet we were the ones who produced, Einstein, for example. Einstein's retarded.

Speaker 13Einstein literally retarded.

Speaker 18'cause that's what an anti-Semitic joke like yourself would say. No, I've, I've

Speaker 13thoroughly debunked relativity for hours, dude. Like, like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you've debunked- Wait, you're discriminating against

Speaker 26the Arabs again. No, relativity

Speaker 13has already been debunked. It's not even considered viable. It doesn't- Haha. Like, watch your, your way out. You shouldn't do this. You're way over your skis. I won't

Speaker 18take over The Pythagorean theorem, but you don't, you debunk, you don't believe in the theory of relativity. I'd rather not waste my time

@joann_marieon nonsense. Could you imagine that you're becoming anti-Semitic because you don't believe in relativity? Like how the fuck does that make

Speaker 18any sense? I'd rather not waste my time on nonsense. I find it hilarious. That's your community.

Speaker 13I find it hilarious. I'm so sure that you're so far from saying interrupting me, right? You know you're not being a necessary. It's your community that

Speaker 18believes nuclear weapons

Ian Malcolmdon't exist To let wits at speak. Now I don't know this angle that he's about to take, but he's welcome to share it, and you're not welcome to just railroad him because you don't wanna hear what it is that he might say. So please let him, finish.

Speaker 13The mainstream academic world that you're appealing to, which isn't appealing to consensus anyway, it's well known that relativity doesn't work, which is why there's a majority of physics now proposing modified Newtonian dynamics, right, getting away from the huge issue of dark matter, right, when you're at the quantum level, when you-- At the quantum level. When you-- No, not the quantum level, the cosmological level, right? And on the cosmological level, they have to claim that eighty-seven percent of all matter in the universe is dark matter and that ninety-six percent of the matter and No, no, no, because we can't detect it. It was discovered by-- No, you can't detect it, it's 'cause it's not there, right? No, no,

Speaker 18there is something there. We don't, we just don't know what it is.

Speaker 13So how do you know it's there if you can't detect it or see it and don't know what it is? It's,

Speaker 18it's detected in, indirect methods, and, once again, you can, you can look at, for example,

Speaker 28Yeah, yeah, it's,

Speaker 28I'm gonna say it again, do you believe in dancing Israelis?

Speaker 26Alright, alright, wait, wait, that's way off topic. Yeah, that's a huge, that's a huge diversion. Can we actually roll the conversation

Speaker 24back to something simpler, something easier? Hold on, one second. Wait, I've

Speaker 26got one last question and then I'll, I'll relinquish the mic and then I'll go back in rotation. Yes, I've got one more, generic question for you. So,

@joann_marieI don't think Jason is in the panel anymore.

@joann_marieHe couldn't stand the antisemitism.

Speaker 13He was one of those Israelis, yo! But by the way, I just wanted to make sure the room knows why that's like actually a super huge deal, like relativity, what, like, the Germans were so vehemently opposed to it, right? You can look up a hundred authors against Einstein. A bunch of German and Austrian scientists said, "Get this out of our country right now," because they called it Jewish mysticism. That basically bends and complex-- the complexity of it bends the simple mind, but that it's completely fake, it's mysticism, and it's basically just destroyed all proper understanding of physics, and it was just forced into the, the, like the literature and all of the information that we were all told growing up on how to understand how physics works. But the Germans completely ignored it, they applied ether physics, right, and wrote about it extensively, which is why they were, they were- Successfully having like UFO tests in the thirties, right? Because they, they didn't believe the nonsense of Einsteinian physics. So that's just a, that's just an example of like the Jewish supremacy embedded in every single component, like some people would just be like, "Oh, this is so nerdy, how does this matter? It's just too complicated." Dude, that literally, without you even realizing it, has molded the way that you view existence itself. Your entire worldview is built upon the assumptions that come from rela- Relativity and how this world works, right? And that is a complete Jewish lie, that's what it is. Einstein wasn't even smart, didn't even write that, he stole every single component of it, it's all plagiarized and it's all been debunked. The main guy stole it from Henri Poincare, which is a French physicist, came out and debunked his own four D space geometry before Einstein even stole it, so it's all plagiarized, compiled plagiarism and fake. He was a front man propped up, and then they put that out to the masses, while I would

Speaker 13I don't have literal proof of it, but they then, they being certain groups, kept the accurate understanding of physics, and that would result in, I don't, being able to charge you for electricity, for example, and many other things. Okay? So relativity is one of the biggest Jewish lies that exists, and you saw how arrogant and cocky he was, and then I made like one of the lowest hanging fruit arguments ever, which is just about dark matter, and he just started like short circuiting and talking about Wikipedia. Okay? Because no one, people like to pretend like relativity is some, like, Einstein's some genius, he wasn't, dude. Right? He like married his first cousin and then wrote about how he wanted to have sex with her daughter. He was a total degenerate and he was retarded and forgot to wear clothes half the time. And he's just a symbol of the power of the Jewish media that's gonna prop this guy up like he's some genius when he's literally retarded, his theories are retarded, it's been debunked for over a century. That's just the reality of

Speaker 24the situation. I didn't even know that the equation that I was asking was how to calculate the for a right angle of a triangle. So, I mean,

Speaker 27I think you're talking about the inverse square force field of a triangle, which is Isaac Newton's law, because he asked, "If an apple falls, does the moon also fall?" And he created calculus at the rate that you learn it. And, you know, it, it, it's really cute because if you take, Genesis one, "In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth, and the earth was without form and void." It goes, and it's not let there be light, it says,

Speaker 27what, what was happening there?

@joann_marieYeah, I don't know. I

Speaker 24don't know. I've heard that guy speak many times, and he is just fucking bonkers.

Speaker 28Anyway, he, he, was he telling the truth? I don't, I don't know. Was he, I don't think he fact-checked it.

Speaker 24If, if it's up to me. Speaking of mathematicians, the, the--

Ian MalcolmSo, okay, here's what we're gonna do, because Mr. Truth Teller just opened his,

Ian MalcolmSome final words here before wrapping everything up, I wanna give a big shout out to Mr. Coyote. before I actually do, go to Mr. Whitsett. Also, just a big shout out to Dr. Michael Recktenwald. And as always, I know I say this in every single space, but the co-host is with the mostest, Ms. Joanne. She is an absolute superstar and warrior and legend on X. and, and I wouldn't be able to do any of what I do on here without her, and I say that in all sincerity, 'cause And, and Witset, I'm, I'm sure you can appreciate that more than most, right? It takes a lot of, of energy, a lot of time, and, a lot of brain power, frankly, to run these kind of conversations. Now, that being said, to come full, circle, isn't it curious, because we ended up talking a lot about Thomas Massey, I think what we're gonna have to do is a repeat conversation with Mr. Witset on some of his views on Einstein, on relativity, on some of

Ian MalcolmInto. I, I love the idea that Einstein was just a complete fraud. The pictures of him with his cousin are really strange. The woman, if I can even call her a woman, 'cause she looks rather masculine, that whole relationship is just bizarre. and as is a lot of our understanding of the world. And, and, I mean, with the, Einstein is a, a wonderful microcosm, right? Because ninety-nine point nine nine nine percent of people would revere this individual, it's one of the smartest individuals of the last hundred years. I wouldn't be surprised if

Ian MalcolmA madman, right? If he was not in any way, shape, or form able to live up to the reputation that we understand. But to your point, when you control all the textbooks, you control all the media, you control all the science and the Nobel prizes, you also get to decide who's the, the genius, right? And so kind of curious for, for you, if you wouldn't mind, maybe giving some, some larger macro thoughts to kind of wind everything down, and then, like I said, if you would be interested, I'd love to do a space,

Speaker 13For sure. yeah, I mean, most people maybe don't know this, but like Einstein was officially offered the presidency of Israel, right? He was a complete Jewish supremacist, and if you really look into him, everything about him is fraudulent. And, that is very interesting, like to research if you haven't. So, I wasn't really, I was just trying to make a quick point there, but- Dude, if you, if you talk to a Jew and try to tell 'em that Einstein wasn't actually smart and he was retarded, they're gonna spy. But, yeah, I mean, it's just a good example of, of the amount of control, right? It's, it's, it, it is like a testament to the nepotism, and it's, it's-- You gotta give it-- I'm, I'm not claiming that they're stupid, I'm just claiming that the IQ thing is provably fraudulent, but they're obviously, they do have intellect,

Speaker 13That's kind of my position. You're not gonna like kinetically brute force that, right? And it's actually a testament to the power of intellect that such a small group of people have been so subversive and successful with the disproportionate power and representation that they have, right? I mean, that kind of speaks for itself. They didn't kinetically take over America at all. In fact, they did so basically flying under the radar for the most part. So, you know, you kinda gotta, gotta step up the,

Speaker 13the level of attack, in my opinion, to combat them. But That whole topic, it's very interesting because, again, when people normally hear stuff like that, they're just like, "Dude, I don't care about relativity, what are you talking about?" And to be fair, if you're not familiar with physics or anything, it's like, it can be-

Speaker 29overwhelming, right? But very simply, there was a major shift. World War II was like the major shift that changed the world forever. Anyone that's really looked into that, everything changed in World War II. And obviously, some people fall into like super- Pro Hitler was right and not right or some point he was Jewish or whatever. I, I think it's a bit of a dichotomy there. He was kinda crazy as well, but the point is it was a real problem being combated and, and they've rewritten all of that and then they kind of rewrote all the textbooks. And so now they've taken over history, taken over physics or whatever. And so what I would say is, it's kinda goyslap, bro, okay? They got the physics with the goyslap, and it's just, it's just a perfect Really simplified, dumbed down version. That's not even the mainstream version, it's, it's, it's supposedly relativity, which is that the gravity is bending and warping of space-time, fundamentally different to Newtonian gravity, they're opposite, right? Like literally, like contradictory. And people think that they're the same, they both work, whatever they don't. The point is that you have to get to college for people to really start to show you relativity, and then you have to like, be specialized for them to say, "Okay, turns out relativity is completely wrong and That, it's like what relativity tells you is that everything is relative, and that has spilled over into moral relativism, which people maybe wouldn't see the link, but when you actually start to dig into the impacts of what relativity did for the way that people see the world, it's moral relativism. Basically, in very simple terms, what it did was there was a test that was done that showed basically that the Earth wasn't moving, and, and what they did was threw the ether out, which was known throughout all of history to be the most fundamental, like, understanding of all of- Existence, the primary substance of all existence, they throw this out and they, they push the world to this like materialistic, nihilistic view, right, where there is no metaphysical background, and then they said that space itself bends and warps, and that the, the measuring apparatus contracts, and it looks like it's exactly the same. Distance, so, so just think about how like Jewish that line is. Like, you have a ruler that's twelve inches, you do a test, and you come back, and the ruler still shows twelve inches, and then Einstein comes over here and says, "Oh, well, yeah, it says twelve inches, but it actually got smaller, but when you try to measure it, it's gonna still show twelve inches, and it's gonna look exactly the same size, but I promise it got smaller, and simultaneously time slowed down just a much, just enough to make it look like it did get smaller, It's like the most mind-warping nonsense in the world, and you even heard him say like, "Oh no, we know dark matter's there," and it turned into, "We don't know what it is, we don't know how to find it, we've never found it, we can't detect it, we can't define it, but trust me, bro, it's there." And they-- it's now so bad that it's like the vast majority of the universe has to supposedly be this mystical, magical matter that's not matter that we can't find, we

Speaker 29can't define Right? So if you really think about it, it's like, why, why was it so important for that, that guy to be propped up and for him to have a bunch of plagiarized theories, you know, put together for him and then him be put up on the stage as though he came up with it as some genius? Why does everyone refer to Einstein when they're sarcastically talking about someone being stupid because he's supposedly a genius, right? And why is it twenty twenty-six and people still think that he was right? However, he's, it's known that he's been wrong for over a century, if you actually dig into the physics of it. And I would say the answer is because there's a major deception. It's not just social deception, they're not just ushering in major demographic changes into our country, and like this guy wants to get rid of free speech, and they wanna control and dictate everything that we say and that we think and we're allowed to discuss, all that. It's, it's even deeper than that. It's on like a huge control mechanism where- Imagine if electricity was free. Imagine if it was known that there's basically an infinite amount of potential all around you that could be tapped into, right? Electrically. And, in my opinion, that's like the main reason for the lie. Now, the reason that's important, and I won't go on and on and on 'cause I could forever, but the reason that's super important right now is they're coming out talking about UFOs that supposedly defy material sciences.

Speaker 29Or they defy the nonsense we were told within the relativistic paradigm, right? And it's just a major deception. So now we've been primed for them to come in and show us something that actually just makes perfect sense within an etheric framework. It could easily just be the CIA doing something, right? Instant action at a distance is possible, shifting from "quote-unquote" dimensions is possible, everything's etheric. I'm doubting none of it's even really like that complicated. The, the Germans had electro-gravitic propulsion or UFOs all the way back in the thirties, Right? But now they're gonna come out and give us some of what's really kind of primitive, and then who knows what they're gonna do with all that, right? Literally say aliens are coming, and I don't wanna go, go down that rabbit hole, but obviously they're priming us to tell us that aliens are real and that the UFOs come from somewhere else. And all of that stems from this major lie. So I guess my point here is like, with what everyone in this room probably knows, right? What, the way that your JQ awakening happens, or at least mine, is I was just researching corruption in general, evil in general, and I would go down these rabbit holes, you know, these major issues in society, these major deceptions, and at the end of the rabbit hole, I'd always find a Jewish guy or a group of Jewish guys. It wasn't like I did it the opposite way, it wasn't like I went around looking For Jews, that never happened, okay? It just becomes a thing where you're just always end up finding that at the very top of something, it's a Jewish guy or it's Jewish people, right? And is it just a coincidence that this huge deception of physics is also a Jewish guy? And of course, the answer is no, it's not, and that may, that may at least pique your interest as to, well, if they considered it as important to make sure we all believed it, you know? And, and I'll just say, you'll see, a lot of people even within JQ, they're gonna get very emotional and instinctively start to defend a Jewish lie, right? Of relativity. And they won't even really understand that's what they're doing. And it's g-it'll probably be very interesting if, if we do have a space and you hear anyone wanna go back and forth with me about it, because, yeah, I don't know, it's just like this, like,

Speaker 29it's like this sacred cow. But anyway, yeah, that's, that's a, that's a little bit of a, of like a summary on that situation. It's, it's probably arguably the biggest, the biggest lie in the last, you know, century or so, 'cause it, it formulates the way you view everything, your understanding of how everything works. Everything is relative, and like, you can never truly know the truth. Like something, something is moving, not moving, is small, is big, is fast, is slow, you'll never really know. It can be all things at the same time.

Speaker 29Right? And, and that's basically what it did. And then it, it just melted the minds. And the Germans warned us, the Austrians warned us, they were like, "Yo, get this Jewish mysticism out of here. This is a, this is a trick that's trying to manipulate our children and, and warp their minds and their view of reality." And, you know, they, they pulled it off. They pulled it off. Obviously, they told the Germans out, and they did it anyway.

Speaker 29So yeah, anyway, I-- and I, most people probably don't know, He was just straight up a Jewish supremacist. So, yeah, anyway, I was just gonna side topic, but I guess I'll land my plane for the general, topic here with, with Massey. Everyone saw that coming, obviously, but in general, I'll reiterate the point I made earlier. I do think it's important that people,

Speaker 29invest a little bit of time and effort into kind of trying to be articulate and tactical with how they present it, like we did hear a guy here, which I'm sure he, you know, his, grievances are valid, right It's like maybe not the best way to go about it, right? And I think at this point in time, it's maybe the most important time to take note of that because the Overtone Window has shifted so much that the President is just directly opposing someone that has, like, Kentuckians have loved forever and is like a shoe in to win, and they're just in front of everyone dumping an obnoxious amount of money into just some what Kentucky state race, right? Specifically because of his opposition to Israel. He just doesn't, he doesn't fund, he never supported any foreign funding. This goes back to the supremacy thing, like, we don't care if you turn down foreign funding to everyone else, but how dare you? How dare you not give us our shekels, right? And so my point is that's gonna, it's a pretty big shift. The Overton Window has shifted a lot, and that's like a very normie thing, right? Like everyone sees that right now. And I wouldn't be surprised if they feel like they have to kind of rein it in. And so don't give them ammunition. No, no, there's no re- no cause to violence, you're not gonna be any of this being violent,

Speaker 29nor are you going to like get co- you know, your cool points of being like the, the most like brutally and savagely anti-Semitic. Like, yo, just beat 'em, beat 'em with that, right? Be cordial, be understanding or whatever, and, and here's the good point to end on, kind of like what was discussed earlier, oh, if we're, if we're not so much smarter, you think we're stupid, but then we still like own everything, it's like, yes, because of a lack of integrity.

Speaker 29And don't sacrifice integrity. Right? To try to beat them at their own game, 'cause if you, if you, if you go into the mud with people that are veterans and have basically lived that way their whole life, they're gonna beat you. And, and I genuinely do believe that A large group of people standing in solidarity in terms of truth, with integrity and morality, they will ultimately win. That's why they have to be so subversive, right? And so, yeah, I think ultimately we win, whatever that means, as long as we don't kind of fall for the trick of-

Speaker 29You know, the end justify the means or some type of Machiavellian approach, right? Because you get into this sadistic, narcissistic, Machiavellian, psychopathic, like dark tetrad mentality, you're kind of going in their world and, dude, they're gonna beat you in that world, right? So just, just don't do it, man. We, just kind of rise above it.

Speaker 29Yeah, I know it's kinda preachy, but hopefully, hopefully you guys

Ian Malcolmget me. No, w- and I think that's a wonderful, note to, to wrap this on, frankly, because, you know, this awakening is taking place, as a result, we need to be ever more clever in how we discuss it. And, and that idea of winning, I think, with it ultimately, you know, whether it is, this subject or whether it is Einstein, any of the other things that we've

Ian Malcolmcovered, kind of cover to Merely sunlight and the discourse, right? So take it out, don't be radical, don't call for violence, don't be unhinged. Certainly know the material inside and out. If somebody asks you a question and you don't know the answer to it, just say you don't know. Why don't we look at it together? Right? And that person that you're discussing that with might take that little journey with you, and maybe you can both learn those things, and in the process, you can awaken that individual to the reality of what's going on. And speaking of reality, we will

Ian MalcolmWe can to understand and unravel all of it, all of the ins and outs of the people, the who, the why, the when, and in doing so, try to make the world a little bit better place by trying to bring light to these issues, by trying to end Jewish supremacy, and in doing so, create a tomorrow where everybody is represented by those individuals that are supposed to be representing them, right? We didn't see that with Massey. hopefully, we are going to see more candidates step forward that will kind of be embodiments of, of his ideas. Ideology, and if so, will make the world a better place in that regard. I wanna wish everybody, nothing but, but absolute God bless, Godspeed, as always, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you are in the world. I always appreciate the listeners, wherever and whenever you may come, whether it's right now or in the recording of this, speaking of which, the conversation will be recorded. Feel free to go back if you'd like, absolutely wonderful conversation and discourse. We will do another one with Mr. Wittstadt. We'll go into relativity, the

Ian MalcolmBe a lie, maybe we'll touch on that flat Earth subject that he is literally one of the world's experts in, and, it'll certainly be interesting if we do. So, as always, Mr. Truth Teller's space is open. Joanne went over there to help him with that room. I wanna thank again her. I wanna thank Dr. Recktenwald for being in here with us, and all of you for listening. We will certainly see you in the next space. We've got one coming up tomorrow with an individual who is going to be discussing America First, what that

Ian MalcolmSo I will see all of you in Truth Teller space and then that one tomorrow, and in the event that I don't see you in either of them, certainly as always, God bless, Godspeed, and we'll see you in those next conversations.