Name: Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies
Uploaded: 2026-07-08
Duration: 5 h 1 min 58 s
Description: A quiet observer follows invisible threads of power through a darkening city until the storm breaks and the light returns cold and clear.

Held here entire — 828 passages across 33 chapters, set down from the first word to the last. The colour shifts with the film’s own mood as each chapter plays.

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Chapters — 33

0:00quiet, reflectiveRicky Martin & Forgotten HistoryThe host opens the show with a surprising Ricky Martin song, connecting it to the theme of forgotten history and the ephemeral nature of fame.
16:58hard, unyieldingRise of Technocracy & Epstein ParallelsDiscussion turns to the encroachment of technocracy, comparing the FBI/CIA's tracking capabilities to the mysterious circumstances surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's death.
25:44quiet, reflectiveJose Nino's Focus: Power NetworksGuest Jose Nino introduces himself, highlighting his focus on power networks, particularly Jewish influence and geopolitical topics.
30:07guarded, evenJewish Influence Goes MainstreamThe conversation explores how previously taboo subjects about Jewish influence are now entering mainstream discourse, even among figures like Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson.
34:50grim, scorchedOrigins of Jewish SupremacyThe historical acceleration of Jewish supremacist power in the U.S. is discussed, particularly its growth during the industrial era and post-Civil War migration.
38:19heated, combativeJewish Dominance in Slave TradeThe panel delves into the historical overrepresentation of Jews in slave ownership and the sugar cane trade, citing evidence from historical texts.
48:11raw, woundedCycle of Animosity & Jewish BehaviorA pattern of Jewish behavior is described: contempt for Gentiles, abusive actions, resulting animosity, and then preemptive attacks fueled by perceived irrational hatred.
53:15sombre, searchingExclusionary Principles of Jewish TribeThe discussion elaborates on the tribal, exclusionary nature of Jewish identity and its impact on interactions with Gentile societies.
57:22unsettlingParasitic Nature & Host WeakeningThe analogy of a parasite leaving a weakened host is used to describe the perceived Jewish influence, suggesting a deliberate undermining of society.
1:03:39disillusionedSamuel Zemurray & Banana RepublicsThe historical role of Samuel Zemurray, a Jewish banana executive, in orchestrating privatized coups in Central American countries is explored.
1:09:53detached, weighingZio-Populism & Controlled OppositionThe concept of 'Zio-populism' is introduced, describing how certain populist movements are allegedly propped up by Jewish donors as controlled opposition.
1:14:02calm, distantLong-Term Perspective on PowerThe importance of a long-term, multi-generational perspective in understanding and combating power structures is emphasized.
1:20:32bleak, drainedBlackCube & Election InterferenceThe discussion touches on BlackCube's alleged involvement in election interference and propaganda, raising concerns about unaccountable private intelligence firms.
1:23:33dimmed, waryRonald Lauder & Shadowy PowerRonald Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress, is highlighted as a powerful figure operating in the shadows, influencing global politics without elected office.
1:30:05charged, alertOrwell's 1984 & Digital RealityThe conversation connects Orwell's 1984 to the current digital reality, discussing surveillance technologies like Pegasus and the concept of doublethink.
1:35:15urgent, incendiaryJewish Networks & Global DominationThe panel asserts that Jewish networks aim for global domination, not just control of the U.S., and that Zionism is inherently expansionist.
1:45:30grim, scorchedIsrael as a DistractionA fear is expressed that Israel might be thrown 'under the bus' as a distraction, preventing a broader discussion about global Jewish influence.
1:50:14broodingTrump, Netanyahu & TurkeyThe discussion shifts to Trump's interactions with Netanyahu and Turkey, suggesting a deeper, more manipulative geopolitical chess game.
1:58:31warm, expansiveGenetics, Culture & ReligionThe host proposes a thesis that genetics influence culture, which in turn begets and reinforces religion, creating a cycle of envy and subversion.
2:05:05tentative, hopefulJewish Supremacy & Public AwarenessThe panel argues that public awareness of Jewish supremacy would lead to its swift end, drawing parallels to Henry Ford's views on banking.
2:11:59measured, soberRising Awareness & Historical CyclesOptimism is shared regarding the rising awareness of Jewish power and malfeasance, suggesting a historical cycle is leading to a significant shift.
2:21:49murky, uneasyTyler Robinson & Show TrialThe Tyler Robinson case is discussed as a potential 'show trial' used to divert attention from Jewish influence and create a culture war narrative.
2:30:00smouldering, restlessHenry Ford's Insights & LegacyHenry Ford's historical analysis of Jewish influence in 'The International Jew' is revisited, highlighting his observations on societal subversion.
2:43:52melancholy, tenderCharlie Kirk's Assassination & MotiveThe circumstances surrounding Charlie Kirk's death are analyzed, with strong suggestions that Israel had a motive due to his critical stance on their actions.
2:58:20cool, analyticalNDA A & Loss of SovereigntyThe ongoing efforts to pass the NDAA are highlighted, raising concerns about the merging of U.S. and Israeli intelligence and the potential loss of American sovereignty.
3:11:40eerie, electricMormonism & Jewish InfluenceThe discussion delves into the relationship between Mormonism and Jewish influence, particularly in Utah politics and intelligence agencies.
3:33:20conflicted, dividedEpstein, Mossad & BlackmailDetailed connections between Jeffrey Epstein, Robert Maxwell, Ehud Barak, and Mossad are presented, suggesting a vast blackmail operation targeting elites.
3:51:40weathered, resignedThe Matrix & Energy ExtractionThe conversation uses the 'Matrix' analogy to describe how the current system extracts energy and wealth from the populace, reducing them to servitude.
4:03:20worn, nostalgicIsraeli Control of US GovernmentThe panel asserts that Israel controls the U.S. government, citing examples like the release of an Israeli cyber minister caught in a pedophile sting.
4:16:40smouldering, restless9/11 & Israeli InvolvementThe discussion revisits the long-standing claims of Israeli involvement in 9/11, arguing that the evidence is overwhelming and not conspiratorial.
4:26:40grave, forebodingOrwell vs. Huxley: Two FuturesThe debate between Orwell's 1984 and Huxley's Brave New World is explored, discussing whether society is heading towards coercion or drugged complacency.
4:38:20charged, alertFreedom as Destiny & Truth's TriumphThe belief that freedom is humanity's destiny is championed, asserting that truth will ultimately prevail against those who seek to enslave and deceive.
4:50:00warm, expansiveProgress & Community BuildingThe host reflects on the progress made in raising awareness, emphasizing the importance of community building and unified efforts against the established power.

The Transcript

A voice is named only when we can verify it — by voiceprint, an @handle present in the room, or the Space’s own title. Anyone we can’t confirm stays “Speaker,” on purpose.

Ian MalcolmLet's see. Are you able to... I think this would make number eight. Do you really want it? Yeah. I really want to get you to get it. Yeah. So, Johan, can you name that tune?

@joann_marieThis is the most random song that you've ever chosen, Ian. You always throw curveballs. I think it's ole, ole, ole. Do you really want it? By Ricky Martin, I know this, but this is... I know, I love it all, thank you. Thank you so much for hosting, and Jose, thank you so much for being here. And guys, thank you so much, and guys, please repost this space, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it.

@joann_marieAnd I cannot wait to know why did you choose that song here?

Ian MalcolmSo, first and foremost, Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

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Ian MalcolmHe was an absolute superstar, and it was in 1998 that, fittingly, the Cup of Life, which was the official song of the 1998 FIFA soccer, and this was the World Cup final song that was selected for that event, and of all of the songs used for FIFA World Cup and everything that is in celebration of it, that is the one That certainly was not only the biggest and most successful, but also from an artist who kind of long forgotten.

Ian MalcolmAgain, I haven't thought of Ricky Martin a long, long time, but obviously a very talented performer back in the day. And it just goes to show how somebody or something can be extremely top of mind. It can be in the forefront, right? There was a point in time when Ricky Martin was as big, I suppose, as Taylor Swift is in some sense.

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Ian MalcolmIs that something that you have heard or have you thought about Ricky Martin in literally two decades, even once?

@joann_marieYes. He sang in Hercules, the movie, and I don't know why, but I think about Hercules often. So I don't think about Ricky Martin for some reason.

Ian MalcolmWait, is this Hercules, the cartoon version?

Speaker 1Yes, the cartoon, the Disney cartoon.

Ian MalcolmWell, if you think of the Hercules cartoon, there's another singer that you have to think of. So this will be kind of the bonus question of trivia. Randomly, Joanne, can you name the other famous artist, a superstar who was prominently featured in the Hercules cartoon?

@joann_marieI don't know. I watched it in Spanish and the one in Spanish is Tatiana. Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

Ian MalcolmBut Ricky Martin, so Jose, kind of a strange way to start the space if you're not familiar with these conversations. Obviously, we kick them off with a song every single time. But Jose, just for humor, Ricky Martin, towards the upper echelon of artists of the past that you enjoyed or somebody you never listened to out of curiosity.

Speaker 2I would listen every now and then, but I actually agree with your point that He has definitely fallen off the limelight, and that just goes to show how ephemeral a lot of these artists' time in the spotlight can be. They can dominate for maybe one to three years, two to five years, but then get out of the public consciousness within five to ten years.

Speaker 2But I was never, I would say, a Ricky Martin fan, though. I think I probably listened, in terms of the Latin genre, I listened more to, at that time, probably Enrique Iglesias more.

Ian MalcolmAh, gotcha. Enrique, would you dance if I asked you to dance? Would be that one. But Jose, absolutely. And again, kind of a piece of history, right? Kind of forgotten, just like some of the things that we're going to be talking about here. And it's so curious because we mentioned this idea of Orwellian and the technocracies.

Ian MalcolmAnd we are witnessing in real time as kind of two things happen. On one side, we've got the encroachment of that technocracy, which not only wants to essentially roll out Palantir, they already largely have across all of not only the government agencies, but prospectively the CIA, the FBI. We had the wonderful conversation yesterday with literally a former FBI whistleblower

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Ian MalcolmAnd isn't it fascinating that seemingly the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, they have the ability to track absolutely everything, right? They probably know not only that we're having this conversation, but they probably know where all of us are respectively participating in it from. And yet they have no information, no video evidence documenting.

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Ian MalcolmIt sounds a whole lot like Jeffrey Epstein and all the cameras just curiously going offline when he supposedly killed himself, right? What a weird pattern. So we've got this rise of the technocracy and yet seemingly those types of characters like Epstein or Charlie Kirk when it comes to their death, that technocracy just, shucks guys, didn't work, didn't deliver the evidence.

Ian MalcolmBut don't worry, we made sure to track every single person that is dissidentally speaking about. Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Forti__Allegedly,

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Ian MalcolmNot only here on your timelines, feel free to put any questions you might have into the purple pill. And of course, certainly feel free not only to like and subscribe here on X of our guest speakers like Jose, but also on Rumble, Apple Podcasts, and on Spotify, courtesy Mr. Dank, allegedly Dank is the handle he goes by.

Ian MalcolmAnd he's also the same AI wizard, has also used those tools to build out the website, I kid you not. www.IanMalcolm84.com

Ian MalcolmWe still have this information in a website with a big middle finger to all the other usual suspects because we've got this information cataloged. We've got it available on that website in a form that cannot necessarily be intruded upon or at least as easily as these social networks are. So with all that being said, Jose, absolutely a pleasure.

Ian MalcolmI see lots of friendlies in the audience. I'm glad to have you here, Miss Joanne, as always. And so with that, Jose, if you wouldn't mind just kind of introducing yourself, these areas of focus that you find so interesting, and then we'll dive into them.

Speaker 2Yes, thank you so much for having me on, Ian. But yeah, I've been in the political game in some capacity for the past two decades. And nowadays in this phase, I am just an independent writer. I'm the deputy editor at Headline USA. I also have my own substack, Jose Nino Unfiltered. I write for various websites as well, so it's like Occidental Observer.

Speaker 2My main focus this day is focusing on power networks, especially those that are disproportionately Jewish and geopolitical topics. I do come from a history background and I think it's important to talk about the forgotten history that you previously mentioned because in this very fast-paced type of society we live in that is dominated by

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Speaker 2The rise of many Jewish networks over the last few centuries, especially the last hundred years, ranging from the focus in Britain to even the mega group in contemporary times that featured Epstein. Because I have long argued that what we're seeing in the United States is the complete subversion of Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And obviously a focal point of a lot of things that we do here in these spaces. And the wildest part about that, Jose, is just the fact that if you think about it, that was once kind of a weird fringe thing on the internet. And I use that to segue into the introduction or the welcome that I want to give to Mr. Caulin, one of the founding members of JQ Radio back in the day.

Ian MalcolmA long time ago, it feels like, but it was only about maybe two or three years ago where These were completely taboo subjects that almost nobody touched upon. And I know that because we would hold those rooms in JQ Radio with five, you know, 15. We'd be excited if we got the 50 listeners. That was a really big number. And yet here we are.

Ian MalcolmAnd these ideas have started to get, of course, not only more into the mainstream zeitgeist on X, but even the voices of the likes of Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson. And look, I don't think those people are going to be heroes, right? It's not like the work is done and we gave them the baton. Rather, we need to keep doing what we're doing because it's only a result of the conversations that we've had, the success that we've been able to create in pushing that into the, let's say, the more normal audiences that has forced function the likes of Candace and Tucker to have these conversations.

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Ian MalcolmThere were kind of fringe voices and whispers within the FBI of people saying, guys, there's something kind of weird with this Israel situation, don't you think? And to think that those were emerging, but they were completely taboo. He said that nobody would basically feel comfortable having anything formally in writing or any kind of conversation about that publicly.

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Ian MalcolmWhere do you think the origin of that really stems from as we understand it today? How do you think that subversion kind of came to be as complete as it is? And what are some of either your fears or your optimism for where you think that it might go from here?

Speaker 2Yeah, in terms of this Jewish supremacist power configuration that has captured the U.S., I would say it has been Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

Speaker 2And that process, if you want to put a date to it, you really saw it accelerate, especially during the industrial era after the Civil War. You had a large degree of migration of individuals of Ashkenazi, Eastern European Jewish extraction and it really accelerated then. But I mean, you could even see some Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

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Ian MalcolmThe number Grok came to was essentially something between about 20 and 40x in terms of the percentage of Jews that own slaves versus non-Jewish whites, let's say, as if we need to differentiate those. But again, 20 to 40x was the distribution. The Jews dominated slave ownership, largely in cities like Charleston, which was the, it's ironic, it was the city with the most slaves and the city with the highest percentage of Jews.

Ian MalcolmWhat a weird coincidence. But I mentioned it because obviously also the slave ships, certainly the insurance of those slave ships, drastic overrepresentation there as well. I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on because you're mentioning the Sephardic trade of in particular Sephardic Jews, the slave trade in, let's say, outside of the United States.

Ian MalcolmRight. And I know that there's in the. I'm going to say it's the history on slavery, essentially the encyclopedia, that's what it is, on slavery. It goes into a lot of the, I think it's the sugar cane trade and how that was dominated by, of course, the use of slaves, very heavily owned by Jewish merchants. I'd be curious for your ability to expand on that if you wouldn't mind.

Speaker 2Yeah, it's not really my subject of expertise, but from what I've read, Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

Speaker 2But there is pretty significant evidence. Actually, hilariously now, in the last few years and decades, there have been some books by certain Jewish authors where they've actually admitted that there was significant overrepresentation in terms of slave trade and even piracy in the Caribbean by Jews. And that makes sense because at that time when

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Speaker 2And they would get involved in those type of activities. And this is just another point to stress that Jews on an individual and organized scale, they do have a propensity of engaging in very antisocial behaviors that undermine the interests of Gentile civilizations. And I would argue slavery is one of those major civilizational stink bombs that have

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Ian MalcolmWhat's the right term? Defensively accurate. Here we go. So this is from the Jewish Encyclopedia on the section on agriculture. Just to quote a quick line here. During the 17th century, the sugar industry was monopolized by the Jews, and with their expulsion from Brazil, it was translated to the West Indies, where in 1663, David DiMercato's invention of the new sugar mills benefited the sugar trade in Barbados.

Ian MalcolmThe Jews in Georgia, chief among them, Abraham de Lyon, transplanted vine and silk culture from Portugal to America. But while de Lyon cherished great expectations in that direction, the Jews of Georgia in general found the production of indigo, rice, corn, tobacco, and cotton more profitable. In fact, the cotton plantations in many parts of the South were wholly in the hands

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Speaker 3Yeah, thanks. I was just going to... Oh, don't forget to retweet the space, guys. I was going to add to this. I'm reading a really good book called The History of Jewry in England right now. And it goes into a lot of this. And the pattern that emerges is that it starts with the contempt of Gentile populations. And what happens is the contempt of Gentile populations then leads the Jews to engage in this kind of like abusive behavior towards the out-group.

Speaker 3The abusive behavior results in animosity towards the Jews, and then the animosity towards the Jews is registered by the Jews as irrational hatred, and then becomes the fuel for the next stage, which is, oh my God, we have to defend ourselves against these Gentiles by finding ways to preemptively attack and weaken them.

Speaker 3And this is the cycle that goes on. So they complain about being hated, but they do nothing to stop the behavior they're engaging in that Necessarily leads to hatred. And this is something that needs to be talked about as often as possible because they will, Jews will deny it. They'll deny it up and down, left and right, Monday to Thursday, right?

Speaker 3They will deny that they do anything that's in any way wrong and that's because they don't see anything wrong with the way they act. They think that they're just doing the same thing everyone else is and this needs to be hammered home to them. Because if it isn't, the next thing you're gonna have is another pogrom. You're gonna have

Speaker 3The same shit that happened in England, you're going to have the same thing in the 1200s where the Jews are engaging in usury and they're enslaving people with interest and then eventually it gets so bad that the common people own nothing and they own everything. And when it gets that bad and people no longer have jobs, people no longer have a reason to behave, they're going to stop behaving and at the end of the day you are advocating for the safety of Jewish people by talking out about this because

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Ian MalcolmTo weaponize hate against the very people that they were essentially subverting and brainwashing and all these other types of things. And so I'm just kind of curious for your thoughts, Jose, on that concept of this out-group animus. And then we can kind of go to this next piece of the history.

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@uncutspeechSpeakers, Sharon, There were, of course, Jews in America prior to this, but the first, like, if you look in the Jewish lore, this is, if you Google 23 finding Jews of New York at points in 1654 to this finding congregation of, like, organized migration of Jews,

@uncutspeechThese were the expelled Jews from the Dutch colony in Dutch Brazil whenever the Portuguese came. They migrated to New Amsterdam, so the first Jews in New York were like... Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

Ian MalcolmNo, wonderfully said. And Jose, any thoughts on that little piece before you jump to the next subject here?

Speaker 2No, that story tracks from what I've skimmed through in that type of history of Jewry in the Western Hemisphere. Originally in Brazil, especially Recife, like the Recife was one of the- I think it's Recife, something like, yeah, it's spelled with an R, but yeah. Yeah, Recife, yeah, Portuguese pronounced like that. That's one of the spots they were very prominent in, and that's whenever you had the Dutch influence.

Speaker 2Once the Portuguese got control of that area, they obviously expelled them. And even as well in the Caribbean, for economic reasons, after just exhausting the resources there, they just went to more economically profitable climes in the United States. It's a much bigger continental economy. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310

@uncutspeechIt's a really good highlight, right, of this concept. We talk about this in this sort of medieval sense a lot when we're talking about Europe with them sort of getting kicked out of places and bouncing around and parasitizing off the next empire and moving to the next one after getting found out there and moving to the next one after getting found out there and so goes on, right?

@uncutspeechBut then you look at sort of, you know, of course not the modern era, but much later than is commonly described when we're talking about this, you had them sort of plunder and parasitize all across the Caribbean islands and Curacao Which is what they're doing with America now.

Ian MalcolmNo, that's a curious little comment there, Rabbi, and it does feel like that is the case, that it's almost like the parasite is starting to recognize it needs to leave. The thing that I find really scary about it is, and I do unfortunately believe this, right, that the entire push to normalize obesity, to inject everybody with these drugs, whether it's SSRIs, to get diabetes, right, all of this stuff, it's designed

Ian MalcolmTo undermine us so that when the host, the parasite does need to leave the host, we are basically too weak to recognize that it's kind of squirming off to its next adventure and therefore aren't able to take any righteous indignation of it. And so kind of Jose, I'm curious for your next little thought here, the kind of slave trade aspect of it, especially in South and Central America, very curious and really appreciate some of the content that you provided there.

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Speaker 2The early 20th century with Samuel Zamore, who I profiled as well on Substack. He was a banana executive that rose the ranks of that sector and actually was a prominent figure in the United Fruit Company. And he was able to launch a lot of privatized coups before reaching that position in countries like Honduras. He became somewhat of a kingmaker in Central American politics from the 30s up until the 50s.

Speaker 2There's actually new literature that I've been reading. I'm reading one book right now. Let me pull it up here.

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Ian MalcolmAny comments or thoughts?

@joann_marieNo, I'm loving this. And did you know that we've had three Jewish presidents in Mexico? First was Plutarco Elias Calles in the 1920s, and he was also a Freemason. Yeah, not a lot of people know. And then also Carlos Salinas in the 90s, and then this one. There is less than 100,000 Jews in Mexico, which makes it absolutely wild.

@joann_marieBut no, I'm loving this, José. And would you want to talk about the... The reason why I found you was because of your thread on how they are subverting the governments in the West and they make them sound like they are like based populist and the immigration, but they are actually all aligned with Israel. So would you like to talk more about that?

@joann_marieBecause it's really interesting and I think people should know.

Speaker 2Yeah, this is much more relevant and it's something that's happening in real time. But yeah, the Zio populism and like this culture nationalism you see, whether it's like Marine Le Pen in France, Matteo Salvini in Italy, and then like you've got people from like Nigel Farage or like in the UK or Rupert Lowe and all these and Hurt Wilders in the Netherlands.

Speaker 2Yeah, this is all part of what I've argued is a Jewish donor-driven and in conjunction with some Judaized Gentiles like Steve Bannon and them to prop up these pseudo-dissident populist type of candidates and movements from the US to Europe that talk a big game about immigration and other valid issues.

Speaker 2You have to first identify that enemy and then devise strategies to wrest power away from them. But the problem with these movements is that they're the classic controlled opposition and they're designed specifically to de-radicalize populations that are already becoming more anti-Semitic or at least Judeo-skeptic and fed up with the present order.

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Ian MalcolmYou know, and Jose, I'm curious about this one, because one of the things that I feel like is inherent in this system is that, and I saw somebody make a comment that basically said, you know, in the analogy of the parasite, is it the parasite's fault for doing the thing that is all it knows how to do, or is it the host for not being able to either notice or evade the parasite?

Ian MalcolmAnd I'm curious for your thoughts, because it seems like, you know, if we go back, we were talking the other day about the Byzantine Empire, which Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

Ian MalcolmAnd it feels like that was one of the big pieces that was required. So I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on on those aspects as it relates to this subject, either for America or South and Central America and this, you know, this this wild world that we find ourselves in, which is kind of the it's not the early innings of we're basically at the completion of the puzzle that was absolute kind of full spectrum propaganda.

Speaker 2Yes, so this is a valid question and this is why it's very important to turn the forgotten history into always like the remembered history that has passed down from one generation to the next because this we have to think in long-term multi-generational type of perspectives and time frames. Where we're in this battle so that we can not only accumulate the experience and build the networks and communities but also to like build like institutions and a knowledge base that we could pass on to our posterity so they are prepared to continue this fight and ensure that we don't get hoodwinked like previous generations.

Speaker 2This is why one thing I stress that We're all in this fight in some capacity. I used to be heavily involved in the political process. That's how I got into this type of stuff. And I got disenchanted with it. But I've found like a new home just being as a writer and just contributing whichever way I can through my... Thank you for joining us.

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Ian MalcolmI couldn't agree with you more. Oh, go for it, Joan.

@joann_marieNo, I mean, it feels like even if people notice, they do tactics kind of like what they did in Romania, that they did election interference like insane. And also because of BlackCorp, you know, that they are changing the elections. Have you looked into BlackCorp, Jose?

Speaker 2I've heard of BlackCube, not BlackCore, though.

@joann_marieOh, you're going to love this. I'm going to send you information on it. Because, yeah, they do all sorts of weird propaganda and weird election interference with BlackCore. And, I mean, even if people realize what is actually going on, they win anyway, you know? So it's...

@joann_marieThank you so much for talking about it. But sorry, Ian, did you want to add something?

Ian MalcolmWell, no, I was just going to comment because I saw on, Jose, on your page, I know that you were talking about, and it's wild because you've done a ton of work on some of the international aspects of this that I'm lesser familiar with. And so I'm curious if you can kind of walk through, because you're talking of the subversive element of Ron Lauder.

Ian MalcolmSpeaking of kind of forgotten elements, I'd be curious if you want to talk about kind of that absurdity where he's not an elected official, but he's had a massive amount of political power, essentially, especially over kind of the minds of the people, if you wouldn't mind sharing that.

Speaker 2Yes. Yeah, Ronald Lauder, the president of the World Jewish Congress, is Art is one of the most powerful figures in world jewelry, without a doubt. And he's not an elected official. He has tried running for office, but his power is largely in the shadows. And that's where organized jewelry generally thrives, through groups like The Focus, Megagroup, you name it, whatever.

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Speaker 2These type of people are actually, I would argue, the sovereigns of Western politics. It's not these sock puppet politicians you see out here that have the R or D beside their name. No, it's actually these Jews in the alphabet soup of NGOs, corporations, you name it, that actually assert political power. Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

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Ian MalcolmThey're not able to grab the interests, the hearts, the minds of the people, but then are moved around into these prominent positions of influence. Right now, even having the ability through literally just financial control and connections to be able not only to sway elections, but essentially to destroy entire political parties.

Ian MalcolmThat is one of Donald Trump's good buddies, it appears. Just another wild piece. I think there's also some aspects there with Greenland, all the things that were perhaps taking place there. Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

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@john_j_casey_And we watched it and then it got, you know, upgraded to Pegasus and units like, you know, the unit 8200 and NSO groups. They overtook all that and stuff, you know. So this is all, everything that has become our reality has moved to a digital reality. The NKUltra never stopped. They have used AI to inherently Indoctrinate us, you know, because, you know, the telescreen moved to Pegasus and then, you know, Orwell even talked about the doublethink.

@john_j_casey_You know, his doublethink actually links to how the mainstream institution Stands at a podium loudly and champions human rights and transparency, but simultaneously they provide total financial, military, and diplomatic protection to a state executing an aggressive physical containment strategy. Orwell's 1984, these whole

@john_j_casey_You know, links, they're always interconnecting and everything always links back to Israel because you can even link Orwell's theory back to Black Cube. And, uh, Joanne, or actually Jose, I'm glad you brought up Black Cube because Black Cube is a big part of this and nobody understands how big they are because They are legitimately just an Israeli former IDF soldier ran company that gets to operate without any kind of, you know, oversight here in America.

@john_j_casey_And, you know, it's just so crazy to me how Orwell's 1984, which I was born in 1984, is still haunting us today.

@joann_marieI think 1984 was a warning, but these people used it as a guide. It's insane. Jose, would you like to add anything?

Speaker 2Yeah, just going back to the point raised about Black Cube, is that... This is uh these type of intelligence firms these privatized intelligence firms as mentioned previously they're unaccountable to the public and this is a point that i stress a lot that the way these jewish networks work they're not just trying to capture the us they're bent on global domination people don't get that like zionism judaism

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@john_j_casey_With the NDAA Section 219 that's already been, you know, passed through Congress, they completely dismissed Thomas Massey. What do you think that that gives Black Cube? You know what I mean? Like, nobody understood what Black Cube actually did here in America or any of their nation or global-wide propagandas and stuff, but

@john_j_casey_Now that they've already had total immunity and now they're trying to implement Israel into Section 219, where do you see that going?

Speaker 2I think what's going to happen there, you're going to probably see because of just the full-blown integration of like the Israeli...

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Speaker 2I don't think it's omnipotent. It's actually very unstable. And when they start to actually get more Jewish elected officials, I've noticed this among Democrats especially because they don't trust anybody in a Gentile under 40 to assume positions. That's why you see a disproportionate amount of Democrat governors and even senators that are Jewish.

Speaker 2When that starts happening, people will start putting two and two together. Speakers 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10

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@joann_marieDo you know what I'm afraid of? That they are just going to throw Israel under the bus and then everybody will forget about Global Jewry. Because I think that at some point they're going to like, well, they're already implementing it, but I think they're going to like... Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies

Speaker 2Yeah, what they have warned about, especially you're seeing on a lot of the Soros-like left and in, like, liberal circles, where they're normalizing, like, attacks against, like, NetYahoo and some very, like, milquetoast anti-Zionist critiques they're allowing this to happen. And the problem with this type of stuff, it's ultimately ignoring, like, the very, the just ethnosupremacist nature of, like, the

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Speaker 2This integration will be part of this plot to get them just much more embedded and insinuated in the commanding heights. That's why it's very important to talk about this, not just in terms of economic aid or attacking NetYahu whenever the problems go well beyond Benjamin NetYahu. It's very much a Jewish supremacist superstructure we're dealing with, and that's why it's very important to frame these debates.

@joann_marieI agree with everything. Thank you so much Jose. Ronnie, guys, before I forget again, please again repost this space. Let's get more people in here and follow Ian and Sharon and our super special guest Jose Nino. And thank you so much for being here. And of course, dancing and Ronnie. And also, if you guys go to it, I will also repost it.

@joann_marieSo thank you. All right, Ronnie, go for it.

@john_j_casey_Well, and I was just going to follow up with the fact that Trump was in Turkey and Benjamin Netanyahu was talking about how he's trying to go against Turkey. They don't need any F-35s, yada yada. But maybe everybody forgot the fact that we were Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

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@john_j_casey_Based off of their own espionage and everything, but yet we're still trying to implement it all. So they raised it all, and he's wanting to implement himself with my own... I live in Indiana, so Marlon Stutzman, he was the piece of shit that raised this whole NDAA and got the letter from Netanyahu. I'm so glad. That dude was so giddy.

@john_j_casey_Um, now he's talking about the Turkish and trying to, trying to start the war with Turkey and stuff, but this was all a part of their plan anyway. You know, these people, you know, Netanyahu, he's trying to, you know, expand beyond with his greater Israel project and everything. And Turkey is another, is another target.

@john_j_casey_So, uh, Trump being there and him also allowing them which they got uh they got blocked back in i think it was like 2019 or something where uh they had sold some secrets or some shit and now they're trying to implement them here in their own flight training school and everything so everything is is a chessboard and these people aren't playing fair we're the only ones who are

@john_j_casey_We are the only ones talking about the facts. We're the only ones who are playing fair. And at some point, it's going to take real citizens to stop playing so fairly in order to check all of these governments and all of these presidents and all of the, you know, the trades and Stock trades and all that you know these people are always going to do all these things to us unless we stop them and we have to come up with a definitive and affirmative plan in order to stop them or else we're just talking in spaces but the information that we talk here is always valuable and when you see Trump going to Turkey

@john_j_casey_While Netanyahu is sitting around talking about Turkey, it raises some suspicion in my head.

Ian MalcolmJose, any thoughts on that?

Speaker 2Yeah, I mean... This goes back to the point that Zionism is expansionist in nature. And yeah, they do have greater Israel ambitions. And honestly, they've achieved it in many respects. They've already Zionized much of the Arab world. Just look at the Gulf Arab states that are basically butt-goys for Israel. And countries like Iran and Turkey are definitely on the menu.

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Ian MalcolmAnd yet all they seem able of doing is precisely that, picking fight after fight after fight after fight and looking to the United States and saying, hey, these people don't like us. They're bullies. Can you please come and fix our problems? It's all just, it's wild. I mean, I think there's something that goes beyond just culture and religion.

Ian MalcolmIt feels like it's perhaps genetics. Because it seems to manifest itself at both the macro and the micro level over and over and over again. I was in a space earlier today, Jose, with a guy who basically sucked up all the air in every conversation that was around him. Completely incapable of listening to other people. It feels like if he is not talking instead of listening to anything, all he's doing is preparing his next rebuttal or objection, oftentimes not even to the things that are said by the other speakers.

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Ian MalcolmI've got the thesis that it basically is genetics create the culture which begot a religion, which reinforces the genetics, which reinforces the culture, which reinforces the religion, and on and on and on it goes, that is fundamentally built upon both envy of others and the lust of the things that they have. And so if you think of a group of people that perhaps are not all that bright,

Ian MalcolmAnd perhaps they're not all that strong and capable and competent, but they really want what other people have. They might go to such extreme lengths as to attempt to subvert everything while simultaneously doing that which is needed to undermine and demoralize the very host that they are trying to basically take control and take, let's say, ownership of while simultaneously changing their last name and the shape of their olfactory system and their nose.

Ian MalcolmI agree with everything you said there. It's definitely genetic.

Speaker 2The religion is just an expression, that culture's expression of the genes and it's passed on from one generation to the next. And even when you look at many atheist Jews, they may not practice the Jewish religion, but they still see themselves as characters in the Old Testament that are trying to relive these Old Testament fantasies.

Speaker 2Or at the very least, they engage in the antisocial behavior that you've seen Jews manifest. For several millennia. So yeah, they work hand in hand, but it's very important to start talking about this because this isn't a normal ethnic group, a normal ethno-religious group whatsoever. It is a distinct one that has an antipathy to Gentiles and wants to live at their expense.

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Ian MalcolmHenry Ford once famously said, if the people understood the banking system, they'd be in the streets tomorrow. I think if people understood Jewish supremacy, they would be in the streets tomorrow. Not trying to hurt or harm anybody, but just to say. Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

Ian MalcolmIt's insane that we've allowed and tolerated this. And again, if people were just aware of it, I think we would see an end to it very, very quickly, not kinetically, but spiritually, politically, let's say intellectually. And isn't it curious because, and Jose, I'm curious for your thoughts on this, right? It feels like it wasn't all that long ago.

Ian MalcolmYou go back to, for example, the greatest generation, right? Those that went and fought in World War II and a lot of those people, Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies

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Ian MalcolmI couldn't agree with you more on that, and I just want to welcome Jose. I know you've perhaps got another 15 minutes or so, but I wanted to welcome Mr. David Nietzsche, see if he's got any thoughts on that subject, this idea of kind of the out-group psychopathy, also our ability to not only intellectually and spiritually reject, but ultimately to replace it with something far better tomorrow, and to, of course, check in with him.

@nietzsche258918No, absolutely. And it really is just coming down to a remembering of why we were free. You know, like you have to believe that you don't deserve to be treated the way that you're treated. And that's sort of the problem within which we find ourselves. And the Great Awakening is that people can only sustain the emotion of guilt or all the things that are foisted upon them for so long.

@nietzsche258918To be told that you're not welcome in the civilization that you built is... A little hard to bear, and I think that's what people are waking up to and throwing off.

Ian MalcolmAbsolutely, and Jose, I'm not sure if you're familiar with Mr. Nietzsche. He's one of my absolute favorites and heroes, in fact, on this app. Just a wonderful and beautiful mind. But given that kind of timeframe, any additional things that you wanted to make sure to cover as we kind of wind down this prior, or let's say the formal piece of this little Q&A?

Ian MalcolmAnd then we can kind of let up any additional speakers that might have any final questions for you.

Speaker 2I think that's all I have to mention. I think I covered a lot of ground here. We hit a lot of topics. So yeah, you can open up discussion to other people.

Ian MalcolmWell, wonderful. And Dancy, I know that we've got you up here. Any questions or comments either for Jose or David? And also want to offer that same opportunity for Sharon if she's got any thoughts.

@nikola1teslaHey, it's good to be here. I missed most of the conversation. I'm just coming in at the tail end and I really want to go back and listen to it because I've read a lot of Orwell and I am really interested in what the speaker has to say. And just while I was listening here, I was kind of tootling around on Grok. I'm kind of a Grokaholic sometimes, and I know it's not the best for in-depth information.

@nikola1teslaBut I asked Grok, how did Orwell feel about Israel? And so I got some really interesting answers about He was saying that the Zionism in the United States is more virulent and malignant than that in Britain, and he had these really interesting things to say about it. He published some reports about his feelings about it, and I just went ahead and copied it and put it in the Purple Pill.

@nikola1teslaIt's kind of long. I don't want to take up your time, but if anyone's interested, it's there. Thanks for having me up and I'll pass it to the next person.

@joann_marieThank you so much for that. I don't know why I never even thought about asking Grog or anything about what did Orwell thought of either Jews or Israel. Thank you so much for posting that. Jose, do you have anything to add or Ian or David or Sharon?

@sharoncelt7I have a question. This might be the silliest of questions. Does Black Cube have anything to do with the Kaaba that Muslims walk around?

@joann_marieI think it's about the cube that they have in their little head. But I mean, the cube is prevalent in the three Abrahamic religions. The cube is the shape of the cross, if you put it...

@joann_marieIf you had a piece of paper and you wanted to make a cross, you would make a... I don't know how to explain it. How do I explain it? Anybody knows what I'm talking about? Like origami? No, I'll just show you. If you put a cross in a piece of paper and then you fold it, it turns into a cube.

@joann_marieThank you. And yeah, so they have the cup and they also the little square that they just use and then or crosses. They're all cubes.

Ian MalcolmOh, I know what you're talking about. Joanne, I know what you're referring to. It's the cube where you're basically you're unfolding it, right? Yes. Yes, I gotcha. No, I like your use of origami there. It feels relevant. But the black cube and Saturn and all of the mysticism there and once upon a time thought these things were all totally disconnected from one another.

Ian MalcolmBut there's obviously the Kabbalistic element of Judaism and it's very tied into some weird mysticism that maybe we'll go down in some space. I have a feeling we'll end up with some weird gongs and bells and So I try to avoid some of the witchcraft elements. But I also want to give a big welcome and shout out to Dr. Rechtenwald.

Ian MalcolmSuch a wonderful pleasure to have you here, sir. And we've been kind of going through some of the forgotten elements of this power structure and the paradigm from slavery up to the present and the recognition that only in noting the past can we get people to recognize in the present this kind of supremacist system that

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@antizioampacAnd I wanted to hear what he had to say because I've been reading his essays, which are indispensable, really. So I just wanted to pop in and say hello.

Speaker 2Thank you, Michael. No, I appreciate your work as well. You do great stuff with your pack and it's very necessary in these times.

@antizioampacThanks, Jose. Keep throwing us in on all the chronologies and Prosopographies of the particular group in question. Keep giving us the details and coming on with the, you know, fine-tooth analysis of all of their conniving activity.

Ian MalcolmYeah, Jose, I'm kind of curious because I feel like this Charlie Kirk, Tyler Robinson aspect, it feels maybe this will be a great place to It feels to me like Tyler Robinson in this trial, Joe Santos made an interesting comment today in Diligent Denison Space where he made the observation, isn't it curious that essentially every pro-Jewish and pro-Israel account is seemingly completely tied to Tyler Robinson's guilt?

Ian MalcolmThey are looking at anybody and everybody in these spaces or Candace Owens. They're labeling anyone that will question any element of the narrative. It's not like we're sitting here saying we know who did it and we know how they did it. We merely recognize that there's some very strange elements. The most recent in the last two days being that the camera, the body camera of the officer

Ian MalcolmWho climbed up to see Tyler Robinson and happened to be the person that found the screwdriver, which is one of the key pieces of evidence, the body camera just two hours into his shift. The battery just happened to die despite the fact that they worked perfectly fine for something like 10 to 12 hours. It's kind of curious, right?

Ian MalcolmThere's a kind of litany of other things that we could point to. And yet you see Corvette and virtually everybody attached to Turning Point USA all the way up to Ben Shapiro. So I'm kind of curious, given your expertise on the subject, what is your expectation with this case? Is it going to be a show trial? Is he going to ultimately be found guilty, even if there are massive holes to this situation?

Ian MalcolmAnd if so, what's that going to mean for the kind of growing awareness that there's some really odd elements, not just to the death of Charlie Kirk, but perhaps the reason for his death, which might be tied to a growing awareness to this issue?

Speaker 2Yeah, I haven't followed that case as much, but my initial impression is that the Jewish-controlled right-wing media space is purposely trying to create a type of culture war, left-versus-right narrative here to avoid any discussion about foul play or inconsistencies here. Because they don't want the discussion to be centered on Gentile versus Jew or any type of investigation that focuses on nefarious Jewish influence or Jewish misbehavior.

Speaker 2So they're going to dumb down the discourse and turn it into a culture war thing, saying, oh, this guy's a leftist, radical, blah, blah, blah, and it's logical that he would kill somebody like Charlie Kirk.

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Ian MalcolmLet's say the years ahead, the year or two or three ahead when it comes to the rising awareness to Jewish supremacy, perhaps being the Tyler Robinson piece, again, as a microcosm or an element to the rising awareness. Do you envision that Westerners and Americans are going to be able to recognize this power structure and stand unified against it?

Ian MalcolmDo you think it's going in a positive direction? If so, is it moving fast enough to hit some kind of escape velocity?

Speaker 2I would say in my time in politics the level of awareness of regards to like Jewish power and malfeasances is record high because I distinctly remember like people really just not talk about it. You would maybe see like generic anti-war protests about like the Iraq war and all of that but they never really went beyond like talking about who were the architects of it and like

Speaker 2With a few niche journalists who've done yeoman's work to lay the groundwork for the current explosion. And that's the thing, we got to play the long game because it doesn't matter if your idea doesn't gain traction now, it could gain traction, let's say, decades from now. So that's why I encourage people to always keep trucking along.

Speaker 2But now I think that we are on the cusp of something that's going to pop off in the next decade or so. And I think it's very much in line with these type of historical cycles. I mean, now they get all superstitious, but you have like a curse of the eighth decade as well with regards to the Jewish polities always disintegrating and hitting a point of like political chaos, reaching a point of chaos like it starts like Israel and even like previous Jewish type of governmental structures.

Speaker 2So we are... Speakers 1, 2, 3

Speaker 2So that's why I actually am excited about the times we live in.

Ian MalcolmWell, that makes two of us and really excited for that. Dr. Rechtenwald, curious for your thoughts on that. And then if David or Sally or V have any to add on it.

@antizioampacYeah, I agree. I think that we're coming to peak consciousness and part of that process is going to be normal, average human beings. Not left, not right, but coming to the same conclusions, not as leftists or right-wingers or anything like that, just as normal human beings in general. So that's what I think is going to happen.

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@antizioampacWe've got to make it generally acknowledged amongst the population that this political ideology, the Zionist political ideology embraced by this Jewish oligarchy and permeated and promulgated on their behalf and by them and their minions, that it is dangerous, that it is extremely dangerous and that it's a morally Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

Speaker 4For all of us to come to this realization, I think there's a lot of maybe quote-unquote conspiracy theories along the way. Government lies to where it's like, these guys don't have our best interests at heart. So it's unwinding that tapestry, pulling on the threads, and it can be a gruesome battle as we've probably realized a lot of our friends and families.

Speaker 4And they're literally like sheep marching them off the cliff. And like, I mean, hopefully we have more time. But it's like the 100 monkey syndrome, if you guys are aware of the phenomenon. You know, you got these monkeys on an island. I forget the exact behavior, but the monkeys in the islands next door start picking up the behavior after a certain time period.

Speaker 4I don't know if it's through the ether, through vibrations, through frequencies. And on top of that, you know, there's that kid in that music festival video, and he looks stupid. And I think it's gonna take some courageous people who just say, I don't care. And other people are going to sooner or later not care. And I don't know what point it reaches their breaking.

Speaker 4But I don't know. You know, at this point, we're finding out they're raping and eating kids and there's still people asleep at the wheel. But I'm starting to realize a lot of people in my family who have been liberal for a long time are starting to talk about doctors going missing, stuff like electroculture, this hippie voodoo stuff is becoming more mainstream.

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Ian MalcolmYeah, and we'll go, speaking of which, we'll go down because I'm going to be very curious for some of the thoughts from Sally, from David, from Michael on kind of the developments there with the Tyler Robinson and the rest of the day that took place in the courtroom. But before we do, I want to make sure I go to Jose again.

Ian MalcolmI know he's got to drop off, but I would love if you wouldn't mind sharing, Jose, how other people can support. Your work, where can they find some of the wonderful write-ups that Dr. Rechtenwald was just referring to? I mean, you've got a huge following and platform that's out there, some really monumental pieces that you've been doing.

Ian MalcolmAnd for anybody that might not be familiar, if you just wouldn't mind letting everybody know where they could get more of your work.

Speaker 2Yeah, where I'm mostly active is Occidental Observer, Kevin McDonald's website. I'm a weekly contributor there. Sub-Stack Jose Nino Unfiltered

Ian MalcolmNo, and greatly appreciate you stopping in here, Jose. And that's why I wanted to call that out for anybody not familiar with your work. The fact that you're a contributor over there at The Occidental, obviously tied to Kevin McDonald, who wrote The Culture of Critique. He's got actually an entire Wikipedia page. It's kind of ironic because under it, it says known for anti-Semitism.

Ian MalcolmNot for his intellect, not for his work as an author, not for any of his research. Yeah, he's not known for any of that, just antisemitism. That's literally the one, it's wild, right? The attempt to oversimplify and kind of take somebody that has done such remarkable work as him to boil it all down to just that. It's really pretty wild and perhaps a sign of the times.

Ian MalcolmBut Jose, again, I just wanted to thank you so much for stopping by. Any kind of final remarks, then we'll go down to Dr. Reichenwald.

Speaker 2Oh, no, thank you again, Ian, for having me on. It was a pleasure. I really enjoyed the discussion, highbrow and intelligent. And I think this is this augurs well, in my opinion, for the discourse here, because I firmly believe that there are similar groups and discussion circles popping up nationwide and worldwide that are discussing these same topics.

Speaker 2So I am optimistic and I really enjoyed my time here because it's always good to discuss Thank you for the invitation.

Ian MalcolmOf course, and thank you to Joanne for connecting me to your work. It was wonderful to read over, and obviously a huge fan of what you've been putting together, as well as, of course, Kevin MacDonald. Joanne, any kind of final remarks before Jose drops? And then, like I said, we'll go down to Dr. Rechtenwald.

@joann_marieNo, it was so good having you here, Jose. And I really hope that you come to another one of our spaces. If you have any cool things that you want to share, you're always welcome. And really nice meeting you. And no, thank you, Ian. Always my absolute pleasure co-hosting with you. Sharon, you did excellent. And all of you guys, I love you all.

@joann_marieAnd thank you, Jose, so much.

Ian MalcolmThank you, guys. See you guys later. Thank you. And Dr. Rechtebal, do you want to jump in?

@antizioampacYeah, just real quick and just say that, yeah, I really think people should sign up for Jose's Substack. Get his Substack on a regular basis because you get your daily JQ on the regular with his Substack. It's fantastic. And let me say also, yeah, the Wikipedia, man, they can ruin you in like one sentence. After The Intercept wrote this article about me, about ASAPAC and me, my Wikipedia page suddenly changed into the first thing is that I support candidates that are sympathetic with Hitler.

@antizioampacSo that's what I'm known for.

Ian MalcolmThe maniacal laughter at the end, Dr. Rechtenwald. That is too funny. And also just knowing everything that you've done, again, All of the incredible work that you've done academically speaking, politically speaking. I mean, you've got a lengthy and certainly very honorable effort to make the world a better place. And now that's the first thing that they want to attribute to you.

@antizioampacYeah, I'm a Hitler apologist or something like that. So, yeah, it's crazy. It's one thing after another with these people. And, you know, some of them supposedly on our side where it came to the question of the genocide. And yet turned against us like we were some sort of monsters, like we'd committed the genocide, not this tribe that we're criticizing, as if we were the worst human beings on earth, not the people committing these crimes.

@antizioampacUnbelievable.

Ian MalcolmAnd Dr. Rexhaw, I'm curious for your thoughts on that because it's akin to the term racist in the sense that for a long time that silenced a whole lot of people into just accepting a whole lot of nonsense. Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

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Ian MalcolmWhat is it? The gang of teens that are just beating up grandma in the parking lot, right?

@antizioampacI really wish they'd just call everybody an anti-Semite and get it over with. Let's just get the whole population deemed anti-Semitic and let's just go from there. And then we'll talk about what that means, of course, because that term is completely idiotic in terms of what it means. It's the IRHA definition or IHRA. The definition of anti-Semitism was just completely conditional.

@antizioampacAnd they even say it's a working definition, which means they can change it. Which they, you know, mean to do because they need to, because they need to keep... It's a shield they use to shield their most treacherous behavior.

Speaker 5What if you're not against Palestine, though? Then I can't be anti-Semitic if I want Palestine to live.

@antizioampacOh, I agree with you there. I mean, because Palestinians are more Semitic than the people over there slaughtering them. But I'm not going to get into the Qasr theory, but I'll just say that. I still think no matter what about the Qasr theory, I think the Palestinians are closer to the original habitants of that land than the Israelis.

Ian MalcolmSally, I'm curious for your thoughts on this because I know that you've been in the scene for a long time on social media, and I'm sure once upon a time, anti-Semite would have been a term that you probably would have been extremely uncomfortable to be labeled as, and yet even somebody that's very measured, very mild-mannered, and always very polite to everybody in spaces, I'm sure it's also been levied your way merely for speaking about a genocide in a critical fashion.

Ian MalcolmI'm kind of curious for your thoughts on that.

Speaker 5Well, I'm just going to say that I lost a couple of subscribers today only for just I didn't even post anything. I've never posted anything against Erica Kirk, right? Because I don't know her position. I don't have any evidence with her. So I am just critical of evidence. You bring me facts, I'll change my mind with facts.

Speaker 5And I just ask questions throughout the trial of Tyler Robinson and they're like, oh, I can't believe that you're falling for the diligent slop and dah, dah, dah. I'm like, what the heck? Like, I'm the same person as I've always been. I mean...

Speaker 5I can say it if it's in front of me. I can read it. But for whatever reason, my ADD brain can't recall it. But anyway, I just think that we're at a critical moment right now. And with our judicial system, I just really think that especially having people weigh in that are not from this country. In the country that I live in, every single person is innocent until proven guilty by a jury of their peers.

Speaker 5And I'm tired of people saying, oh, they're guilty. Look at this piece of evidence. Look at that piece of evidence. And it's really frustrating because Tyler Robinson is innocent because a jury of his peers has not found him guilty. Full stop. That's really how I feel about it. And if we lose the one thing that sets us apart from other countries, which is our judicial system, we are innocent until we're proven guilty.

Speaker 5In front of a court of our peers, but I kind of wanted to pivot back to something that Michael had said earlier, and it reminded me of one of Charlie Kirk's last speeches. And it was, I'm not going to get it verbatim, guys, so just bear with me. It was along the lines of, it's not right versus left. It's not us versus them.

Speaker 5It is us against the elites, right? They have been trying to divide all of us. Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

Speaker 5I just encourage everyone to not lose hope. I'm sorry I rambled a lot, but I had so much pent up all day.

@nietzsche258918Wait, who are those elites again?

Speaker 5The elites would be, if you want to say, Jewish supremacy. I mean, I don't know what you want me to say, but like you are...

@nietzsche258918The truth?

Speaker 5Huh?

@nietzsche258918I'd go with the truth.

Speaker 5Yeah, like anyone in a position of power and who dominates that mostly, I don't go look in Google. I went Google lawyers today who are... What was that, David?

@nietzsche258918You want me to go look in Google?

Speaker 5I don't think I need to Google it. No, I had to look and see what religions certain people are representing Tyler Robinson. Are they giving him the best defense? Because you have someone with the last name Novak. Are they going to go along to get along? What is their strategy? Because I think that everyone deserves the best defense in this country, and I don't care who you are.

Speaker 5I am a Christian. I am a Christian. I am Mormon. And everyone's like, oh, you're a Zionist. No, that is heresy. Mormons are not Zionists. And if they are, they're heretic. I've been taught that since I was eight years old, since I knew what the gospel was, right? So I don't believe all this bullshit that people are pushing.

Speaker 5But yeah, I agree with you, David.

@nietzsche258918Well, I would say this. You know, I'm glad that people were talking about Orwell because in person, I talk about why Orwell still matters. And boy, is he applicable to the moment. Orwell as a diarist says a lot more about the Jews than Orwell as a novelist. So if you read his letters, his essays, and his diaries, you kind of know because he kind of knows.

@nietzsche258918And the language game thing, the thing that they're doing where they impugn everybody who disagrees with him. Well, if you read 1984, I mean, there's nothing in there that they're not doing. And it really is one maybe slight difference I would have with what you said, Sally, is that The presumption of innocence, actually, it's not that unique.

@nietzsche258918That was codified by Hammurabi, so thousands of years old, way predating, really, the rise of Western civilization. People understood that. So why is it? One of the points that Orwell made in 1984 was that part of the doublethink was you were convinced that things were better, that they had somehow, and if we could italicize this idea, progressed, even though

@nietzsche258918You've felt a devolution in your daily life. And this is what they've done. Remember in the Kavanaugh hearings when all of a sudden the presumption of innocence went away and we were just supposed to believe the accusers. And the accusers came from the choosers. I'm sorry, but they just all of a sudden rose out, fabricated these absolutely erroneous claims, and then of course the giant megaphones owned by the same group of people, Jewish supremacists,

@nietzsche258918We're just saying, well, now the presumption of innocence is gone. And now we see this with Tyler Robinson. And just as Joe pointed out in that space, it's odd that one group of people, meaning them, are coming out going, he's guilty, he's guilty, he's guilty. The lady does seem like she protests too much, doesn't she?

@nietzsche258918Like, why? Why is this so important to you? I mean...

Speaker 5So, David, that was the one question that I wanted to ask him today, but I got cut... The court came back and said I shouldn't have asked him. I wanted to ask him, why do you want him to be guilty so much? And it's like, that was the one thing... He's not even looking at anything objectively. It's like he is guilty because... And he'll find any explanation.

Speaker 5It's almost like someone's emailing him talking points.

@nietzsche258918Israel. These are the people that need you not to talk about the attack on USS Liberty. These are the people that desperately never want to hear the words dancing Israelis again. These are people that with all of their might, they would come on diligence basis when he was talking about the Epstein thing, because the Epstein thing I still say is the key to everything.

@nietzsche258918A small cabal of Jewish supremacists have been running our civilization down, down, down, down the tubes. And they were coming in, why are you talking about this? You're evil, you're an anti-Semite. How odd, what an odd admission it is to say that talking about pedophiles is anti-Semitic. And of course, this is what's happening with the Tyler Robinson thing.

@nietzsche258918Talking about this, you know, I've tweeted out today the idea that Israel has a Wikipedia page devoted to their assassinations. I mean, assassination, and if you look at the methods, I posted it out,

@nietzsche258918Oh, we hate these people.

Ian MalcolmDavid, I apologize. I chuckle only. I just wanted to elaborate on that one. I chuckle only because isn't it weird that so many of the suicides are done with the two shots or three shots to the head by the person that just, I guess, I guess they just missed the first two times it went through the skull. Sorry about that, David.

Ian MalcolmYou often Clinton associates.

Speaker 5That's where my head was, Ian, was the Clintons.

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@nietzsche258918I don't think that these spaces are served well by just having someone that's almost obviously paid to sit there and distract and obfuscate. And by the way, be the center of attention, constantly being a vortex of attention for everyone else.

Speaker 5How many times do I say that today? I'm like, you are narrative spinning, which it is worse of an insult than a lie, because that's the only thing that shut him up for a couple of minutes. But that was my thing, is we just watched court testimony. For two, three hours and we're trying to have a genuine discussion and here comes this person with this like one page narrative that he's supposed to get out without interruption so that he gets all his money.

Speaker 5I don't know. Like I know I'm being like, yeah, it's the same. But anyway, I mean, it might be exaggerating. I have no proof of that. That's just my assumption. But he cannot stop talking over people and allow us to have a genuine discussion to discuss the actual evidence There are definitely 30 pieces of silver involved in a transaction there, but ask yourself this though.

Speaker 5Erica Kirk. I want you to juxtapose her with Jackie Kennedy. Jackie Kennedy said,

@nietzsche258918Little Commie did this alone. Now, whether you believe it or not, whether she's right or wrong, I mean, come on, Israel took out JFK, but whether she's right or wrong, she's thinking like a bereaved wife. She's like, I want every stone unturned. I want the earth shaken to the ground. If anybody even intimates, if someone says, oh, it's the lizard people, then I want to go check out the lizard.

@nietzsche258918This is a sane way for a bereaved wife Who's beloved husband just went down in front of God and country. But not Erica Kirk. Isn't this strange? She is absolutely the anti-Jackie Kennedy. She's saying, oh, Joe Kent said that he wanted to go down the road of the possibility of investigating another country, being involved with this, but the FBI shut it down, the CIA shut it down, said they couldn't do that.

@nietzsche258918Well, then, damn it, we better do that. She wouldn't have to believe it was another country. She would just have to care so much about the truth that she would say, every stone must be unturned. Every investigation must be, we must go down that road and figure everything out to the nth degree. She's not doing that. She's saying anybody that doesn't accept the narrative that it's just this guy is a bad person.

@nietzsche258918That is so anti-Charlie Kirk that it's astounding. Charlie Kirk wouldn't do that. He would be looking at all of the options. The guy was an autodidact. He always kept an open mind. He'd listen to anyone. She's demonizing anyone that is considering the possibility that the country that Charlie Kirk said he feared would assassinate him, assassinated him.

@nietzsche258918So yeah, this is a really weird thing. And then those people are coming in and they're saying what? Nothing to see here, folks. They're only defending Israel. I want to know, is there one person in this room that doubts that Israel and their defenders, their main interest in the Charlie Kirk case, is just making sure that Israel isn't impugned in this?

@nietzsche258918Is there one person in this room that doubts that when we talk about Epstein and the Epstein class, remember Charlie Kirk said that Epstein was working with the Mossad, All that Israel and their defenders are concerned with around the Epstein thing is that Israel is not impugned. Is there one person who thinks that whenever we talk about the 9-11 case, the only thing they care about is that Israel... Is it odd?

@nietzsche258918I mean, come on!

Speaker 5You can see... Just think of Mitch. The second that we were having it, it's like he didn't speak at all while we were listening to the video. As soon as we start having a relevant conversation back and forth is when he interjects with his bullshit. So that to me makes me think, huh, why am I not supposed to look in this direction?

Speaker 5Sorry, David, I didn't mean to cut you off.

@nietzsche258918No, absolutely. And Ian, wasn't it funny when the other guy comes in the room and he tries to shout me down by saying, I don't want to hear anything that David says because he believes that Israel did 9-11 and he's expecting me to clever my way. And I go, yeah, they did 9-11. Yep. Uh-huh. They did that. And every time he said it, I just repeated it back to him.

@nietzsche258918That was gold.

Speaker 5That was gold, by the way.

@nietzsche258918Yeah, they did 9-11. Uh-huh. Yeah, they did that. You see, that's the... Don't out-clever them. Just go, yeah, you guys did that. Yeah, I'm sorry, but when you work so hard to cover it up, when you work so hard to shut down... Any police investigator would arrive at the same conclusion. Have you ever watched these murder things?

@nietzsche258918When the person... When the guilty party starts acting really weird and hiding things? Or when they go on the lam? Like Tom Aleksandrovich, when they go on the lam, they're like, well, they're obviously, this is a guilty person. This is the way guilty people act. Like, if you're not guilty, why are you acting? TPUSA lunged to the Israeli side after their supposed leader and hero was killed for saying, after saying, I think Israel's gonna kill me.

@nietzsche258918That's, isn't that odd? Doesn't that look guilty? Of course it looks guilty. I mean, you either have... Look, we're all Americans here, but our bullshit meters are made in Japan. Come on, we see this, we know it, it's obvious, and then we're supposed to be clever and say, well, no, no, it's you guys. You're the bad guys.

@nietzsche258918This is the great awakening is just saying this.

Ian MalcolmYeah, David, the wild piece about it, and to kind of bring it full circle, it is curious because it feels like, how do I want to say this? Because I don't know for certain. Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Forti__Allegedly, Thomas Truemaga

Ian Malcolm2 days prior, after a month, let's say prior, telling Benjamin Netanyahu, no, I will not take lots of Israeli money to change the direction of Turning Point USA, after then saying, I feel like Israel is out to kill me, then dying. It seems like a reasonable thing to consider that maybe they had something to do with it.

Ian MalcolmAnd yet, it doesn't matter if it's Charlie Kirk. If it's 9-11, where we can draw just, it's not even a couple oddities, right? The list is so long that it's almost unreasonable for anybody to not know at this point, not just consider, but know that obviously Israel had something to do with that, right? All the way throughout all of these things, Jeffrey Epstein, right?

Ian MalcolmJFK, the USS Liberty. It doesn't matter. We can go through all of them. And my point is that to this idea of forgotten history, all of these are examples. Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies

Ian MalcolmThey act as if they concede on any of them, that therefore something is going to collapse like a Jenga tower, right? And unfortunately, it does feel like that is what, when you finally recognize the JQ that people have been talking about all the way back to Henry Ford, all the way back to Rome, right? It feels like when you finally notice that and you connect these dots and you say, well,

Ian MalcolmWell, Dan, there's all these weird coincidences across all these monumentally important things. And if I touch upon any of them, just like Dr. Rechtenwald was saying, all of a sudden I'm an anti-Semitic Hitler apologist. What is going on? And you come to the grand conclusion. That is how they have basically gotten away with all sorts of atrocities, is merely to slur and to toss hate and venom at the very people who are just trying to righteously speak the truth.

Speaker 5Have you read The International Jew by Henry Ford, Ian?

Ian MalcolmI have, and Henry Ford is a fascinating case study in so many of these areas, of course.

@joann_marieWe're going to have a space on him. I'm going to post it in the Brickell panel. That's right, Bryce is going to do a deep dive.

Speaker 5I have his book on Audible in case anybody wants to know this.

Ian MalcolmNo, Sally, Bryce is going to be coming in to talk not only about his book, but also the life and the legacy of and the lies of. And the thing that I find so interesting about him Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

Ian MalcolmTo my employees, how do I provide all of my employees with the ability to buy the product that we are making, to be able to own a home, to raise a family, to do all of the things that all of us with a soul would say, that is it, that's the hero. And then lo and behold, he gets sued by Dodge Motors, who we can make some weird connections to, and they say, no, no, no.

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Ian MalcolmAnd this note, the verbiage that he uses about slowly I began to dot, dot, dot. And I'll let everybody else finish that line. But it was based on observations of behavior, on the desecration of his community, on the destruction of the middle class, the abuse of those that had the financial means to just kind of continue into perpetuity, their nepotism and greed.

Ian MalcolmSo these patterns are just wildly similar. And Sally, I'd be very curious for your thoughts on Ford and what you might have read so far in the book. And again, kudos, Joanne, for calling out that space.

Speaker 5Yeah, I read the book years ago before I ever came on to X Spaces, before I ever... I was big into anti-child trafficking and all this stuff way before I came on to X and was trying to... Speakers on the screen.

Speaker 5He's a bad person. He is saying that there are these people who pretend to be Jews that have co-opted our music industry, our film industry, and they've infiltrated America to push this MKUltra-style narrative to brainwash all of us to go along with a certain narrative. And I know I'm just like, I'm speaking...

@nietzsche258918I don't think they're pretending.

Speaker 5Well, I don't think that they're actually Jews. I think that they pretend to be Jews. They're Jews. They use it as cover according to the book and you can have your opinion that's okay because I will be open to any new information. But in the book it specifically says the international Jew, they say they are Jews but they are not.

Speaker 5They have infiltrated the Jewish religion to pass the ADL laws and all these different anti-Semite laws to do what they do. Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly,

Ian MalcolmAnd they subscribe to a culture and a religion that is that, and those that are not part of the religion still say, I am an atheistic Jew, right? So if it's not just the religion, then there's something that I guess either supersedes or is in combination with precisely that. And especially when it comes to Hollywood, the music industry, all of the entertainment aspects.

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Ian MalcolmThis little group and a sprinkling of, of course, individuals that are not. I'd point to the likes of Jamie Dimon. He is not a Jew, one of the most powerful financiers in the world, but his wife is. So you keep noticing these patterns that it's almost always somebody that is either part of that club or that everyone that they're extended to, if not themselves, is married into that club.

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Ian MalcolmThey're either directly entangled with Peter Thiel might be a great other example. He says that he's Christian, yet he's a flaming homosexual. And he's funded the likes of Alex Karp over at Palantir and the genocide of the Palestinians. Not to mention Palantir oversaw the injection of the COVID vaccines, right? And then we look at that leadership and it's all Jews.

Ian MalcolmIt's so crazy. And so look, They might say they are Jews, but they are not. And it was Jesus Christ himself, right? It is the synagogue of dot, dot, dot that I can't, I can't even finish that statement on extra. I'll lose, I'll lose my handle because apparently that's anti-Semitism because I'm quoting the Bible on the free speech app of Elon Musk.

Ian MalcolmWhat do you know? The head of product. Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies

Ian MalcolmAnd they are the players. And do you know why I say this? Because on 60 Minutes, a Mossad agent said, we are the authors of the script that you all watch. They told us. They said everything you see is fake. We make it all up for our benefit. And we sit there in the audience and we're like, yeah, that's cool. Bring on the next act, guys.

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Ian MalcolmDo not fear the Jew. Just say what it is. Say the problem. Say it directly. It's responsible for all this stuff. And I refuse to watch more of my people be brainwashed into self-hatred, be vaccinated into death and cancer, to be sent off to war to go die for Israel. I won't tolerate another moment of it. David, I apologize.

Ian MalcolmPlease go back to Charlie Kirk.

@joann_marieThat was amazing, Ian.

@nietzsche258918If you doubt who they are, just imagine Mark Levin crawling through the sewers of a Tolkien-esque world looking for the ring that he just lost. I mean, come on. It's pretty obvious who they are. But what I was going to say about Charlie Kirk is that, you know, the denial, the absolute sort of shocking denial is around the fact that when you combine the motive of all the other people in the world,

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@nietzsche258918Israeli hegemony. How did he do that? In three ways. One, he said that he didn't believe the October 7th narrative. That means they faked it. Two, he said that Epstein worked for the Mossad. That means they're evil. That means that they're our enemy. If Epstein is working the Mossad, that means a foreign country is running a blackmail operation to extort our politicians by using the rape of children in order to get our politicians to co-sign their bombing other children.

@nietzsche258918There is nothing more evil than that, of course, and that would destroy the reputation of Israel if we all found that out, and then they can't survive without us. Come on, let's admit it, they can't survive without us. Israel, the country of Israel, cannot survive without the United States. And then the third thing was when he said, and we all heard this, when he said that...

@nietzsche258918They were the ones inveigling people across our border. Why is it that they were doing this? He asked this question. Why is it that Jews were funding the NGOs, our greatest ally? These things are heretical. And so for his constituency, and then he's letting who? He's letting Tucker Carlson talk. He's letting Dave Smith talk.

@nietzsche258918And you know, when you stack the truth against the lie, the truth wins. The devil's ruse is to simply not let that discussion happen. And of course, the rest is history. We know that they offered him a lot of money to stop that from happening, to come back to the fold. He refused it. And then he's dead. Then he's dead like right afterwards, right after he's saying that he refused this, right after he's telling Ben Shapiro, you guys control the media.

@nietzsche258918So come on, the fingerprints are all, even if it's not them, they should be suspect number one. And the fact that not only are they not, But every Jewish supremacist is out there going, nothing to see here, folks. Keep the curtain closed. Do not pull that back. No looking. Well, I think it's okay to assume that they're guilty if they do all of this.

@nietzsche258918I think it's okay to assume they're guilty if they're saying, not only are we the prime suspect, but we don't want to exonerate ourselves. We don't want to demand an investigation like any rational person that was innocent, but their reputation was being impugned because they look guilty. No, no, no, no, no. We want to stop this altogether.

@nietzsche258918So that's what makes this all look so bad. And by the way, that's what makes Erica Kirk look demonic.

Ian MalcolmDavid, I'm curious really quickly for your thought on that and also to open it up to Sally, to Moneypenny. But what you just said there, let's imagine that it was not them, right? Let's envision that Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

Ian MalcolmLook, if it's possible it's not Tyler Robinson, let's do everything we can to consider every other option. Let's turn every stone to your comment, right? And instead they're like, no, it's absolutely this guy. Ignore any and all of the possible holes in the story. Just overlook all of them or you are the anti-Semite, right?

Ian MalcolmIt seems wild that, and it's where I don't understand how this even happens. How is it that nobody in Netanyahu's immediate, let's say, surrounding environment or ecosystem or thought process is able to grab his arm and be like, hey, man, maybe don't go on air and say we had nothing to do with this an hour after it happened.

Ian MalcolmIt's going to look really weird. It feels so low IQ, I can't comprehend it.

@nietzsche258918What's actually amazing about it is that, and I asked one of them this, I asked one of the defenders of Israel, have you guys ever done anything wrong? I mean, if you ask that about our government, we can go on and on. We can say, oh, yeah, the COVID thing, whatever it is, we can say, yes, I can give you a list of, you know, let's say the Gulf of Tonkin incident.

@nietzsche258918I can give you a list back for a long time in history of things that the American government, ostensibly my government, has done wrong. I think almost anybody can do that from any country, from Russia, from England, whatever. The one people that say no.

@nietzsche258918Lots of times it is counterintuitive. It will be the husband that looks guilty because let's say he had a fight or maybe a little domestic situation where the cops came, but he's like an open book. He's like, no, investigate me all you want. I'll tell you whatever you want. I want to find the real killer. I'm not it. But let's rule me out and then move on to the next thing.

@nietzsche258918That is what an innocent person looks like. Not these people. These people are saying, not only should you not rule me out, but You're not allowed to talk about whether I've done this. We who brag about assassination, we who are the only country in the world that uses assassination as a normal way of conducting ourselves, even Donald Trump, when he tries to negotiate with the Iranians, he has to hide who he's negotiating with or hide who he's going to talk to for fear that Israel is going to come in and kill the guy.

@nietzsche258918This is something that even Cyrus the Great 2500 years ago wouldn't do, wouldn't kill the messenger. When the Greeks famously killed the messengers and they felt bad about it, they sent a couple of their own messengers to Cyrus and said, hey, look, we're sorry, so go ahead and kill Cyrus. And what was his answer? No, we don't conduct ourselves that way, but not Israel.

@nietzsche258918We assassinate, we assassinate, we assassinate. We do it with telephones, we do it with car bombs, we sneak up to you on the street. So of course we should suspect them. And what's their answer? You're anti-Semitic for suspecting us. I'm sorry, but that just makes you look so damn guilty. And the fact that our government doesn't follow that lead, well, that says everything.

Speaker 5What everyone is not talking about is while this trial is going on, they're still trying to pass the NDAA, which is going to merge our intelligence, our AI, our surveillance, our everything with Israel. Right now, currently, that's what they're trying to stop going through. Tucker Carlson talked about it for the first time last night.

Speaker 5I stayed awake way too late last night listening to all of it. And it is very concerning. But I'm not saying that this trial is a distraction. But because of this trial, no one is talking about the NDAA, which right now impacts all of us.

@nietzsche258918It is just amazing because that would be giving up our techno-sovereignty, our military techno-sovereignty.

Speaker 5And if anybody thinks that... Our sovereignty as a country, not just techno, it's as a country.

@nietzsche258918Well, yeah, but if anybody... So I've heard people go, oh, this is just a formality. You know, they already have that. No, no, no, no, no. Data fusion is an entirely different thing. And the reason why is because then if a Thomas Massey becomes president, it's very hard to extirpate ourselves from that. What I did was I conducted a thought experiment with Grok and I said, suppose this passes.

@nietzsche258918What is the worst thing that Israel could do if they turned on us with this technology, with this newfound technology? Well, one of them is they'll have all of our NSA data, like in a way that they don't have now. They could target every American. They know where you are, where you're going. Remember, this is a country that brags about assassinating people and the idea that

@nietzsche258918Jonathan Greenblatt already said, he already said, we're working with the FBI and the CIA, basically to track everyone who calls them out for their genocide. And he even joked about that with the pager thing. You can Google this. He joked about the pager assassination thing, like we can kill you guys too. So the idea was-

@yoteofstreetLike, the espionage that they put on our officials, bro, it's at the highest it can go, and it's fucking crazy how they're going to put, like, you know, Tom Cotton, he's got an intelligence fusion. Like, these things, like, you got to watch that Tucker Carlson. That old man kind of freaked me out, honestly, but he's like, you can't.

@yoteofstreetHe was a Democrat.

Speaker 5Coyote, he was a Democrat of all things.

@yoteofstreetIt doesn't even matter now. Like, we cannot lose our fucking... Well, I know, but... No, no, I know, I know. But it's like, people, if you don't like Tucker, fuck you, bro. Y'all gotta look past this shit. Look at this. Like, it's our sovereignty, this tribalism shit. It's fucking crazy, man.

Speaker 5My only point, Coyote, was that he is a Democrat, and that's what Charlie was saying, is it's not right versus left. It's us versus them. They're trying to destroy us.

@yoteofstreetAnd he's right on that, too. It's like... Like, they can use AI to fucking kill us, bro. Biotech. If you look at their biotech, Israel didn't sign the little thing that everybody else signed. They said, no, we're not doing that so we could do crazy shit with biotech, like, in that field. And they're, like, prospering in that.

@yoteofstreetIt's just, it's a very, it's a disturbing country. Like, if you really look into Israel and you really, really take that deep dive, it's fucking sick, man. Like, I mean, just go start with the Ethiopians. The Ethiopians went over there in 2013. That just gives you a big hit. Anybody that can do anything like that, and there's no accountability.

@yoteofstreetThey don't hold each other accountable, man.

Speaker 5Sorry, Ian. Ronnie and Forti have had their hands up for like an hour or so.

Ian MalcolmI can appreciate that. So let's go to Ronnie, then we'll check in with Forti, and then we'll go to Moneypenny. But I just want to call out... Because we've got such a wonderful panel up here and so many individuals that I know are just very comfortable with the flow of these conversations, feel free to jump in. I apply that to everybody that's up here.

Ian MalcolmI see Thomas, so many others. So if you do feel comfortable, just jump in. And I know that's a little bit out of the normal, let's say, workflow that we have here. But again, we've just got such wonderful panelists. I'm sure it'll be fun.

@john_j_casey_Thank you, Ian. I don't like to jump in just because I try to respect the panel, all the hands, everybody who's waited before me and stuff. But, you know, I actually wanted to speak on the whole Ford situation that Sally brought up because everybody forgets Preston Tucker, you know, the Tucker 48, the one man who went against the big three.

@john_j_casey_Even when Ford was sitting around fighting against Zionism, he eventually collapsed and fought out the one dude who actually tried to do something outside of his system. You know, like, it's incredibly integrated. And we also, you know, I didn't know if Sally Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

@john_j_casey_Catherine Nestor and her whole legal team really doesn't have a whole lot of Mormon integration. Yet the judge, the police, the prosecution, they all have it. What Catherine Nestor does have is she has a case where Donald Trump and Pam Bondi actually went in on Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

@john_j_casey_Just take over everything, all of our information, especially, you know, our AI, which everybody is dependent on right now. You know, we used to sit back prior to AI, prior to 2018. We used to sit back and actually look at the information, gather it ourselves. But now we're so reliant on the system that has literally Speakers & Orwellian Technocracies

@john_j_casey_Not because he didn't complete his car completion and stuff, but because even though he completed it, they wouldn't allow him in. So Ford was bought out by the Zionists and everything well before a person like Even you and I, speaking in this space, he had a voice that was silenced. And this is what we're dealing with, a silencing.

@john_j_casey_And it all stems back to one certain group. It's Jewish supremacy. If you can't speak on it, then you can't really link everything. We need to be able to speak on the actual facts rather than obfuscating and dodging them just so that we stay kosher in a space. The cussing and the calling out of names, especially he who we should not name.

@john_j_casey_You know who I mean, Ian.

Speaker 5Just so you know, Ron, I think it's Ronnie. So Forrest started writing his book in 1918. So I don't know, it was like little weekly, like newspaper articles that he wrote on a weekly basis, right? So that started in 1918. He didn't die until after World War II. So I just want you to put that in context. And I just want to put this other context.

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Speaker 5Yeah, but so there's good people and there's bad people, whether you're Catholic, whether you're Protestant, oh my gosh, I can't say that word, Protestant, oh my gosh.

Ian MalcolmI was saying that not to obfuscate any oddity or to deny that there's a lot of Mormons there, but rather just to suggest that if you're walking down the sidewalk, half of the people there in Utah are going to be Mormon, so. To say, oh, look, the jury pool is drastically Mormon. It's because they got so much power. It's like, well, there's just a lot of them there, right?

Speaker 5Well, so 80% is either Mormon or ex-Mormon. So 50% or less are current Mormon, right? So my point was is that you reminded me of my point, Ian. Thank you. So I've gone into some other spaces anonymously and certain Jewish supremacist Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies With www.JoseAlNino.com

Speaker 5I just want to put that in context that the Jewish supremacists think that LDS or Mormons are equivalent to Islam. So I just want to put that in context.

@nietzsche258918But Sally, the Jews have gotten really tight with the Mormons. I mean, like, there's no, there's no disputing that.

Speaker 5No, no, no, no, no, not Mormons. They have gotten tight. Whatever they are. No, no, individuals. They have gotten tight with individuals. You want to put them in a group. And if you want to have individual accountability and you want to lift everyone into a group, that's where I think that you are wrong.

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Speaker 5It is corrupt. So just because you're LDS doesn't mean you're a good LDS person, doesn't mean you practice the book. It just means that you use that with your name and your title. So I just want to make that distinction.

@nietzsche258918We're not talking about what's legitimate or what's orthodoxical, right? Because obviously Judeo-Christians, just your normal Protestant who is a Zionist, it's a complete contradiction, obviously. They don't know it. But it's a complete contradiction. However, it's a complete contradiction. However, the Zionism endemic to Mormon thought, it is there.

@nietzsche258918It doesn't make it right. I mean, but it is there. And obviously, maybe it's been promulgated by Jews, by Jewish supremacists, but that is there. And, you know, on Diligent Space today, you know, we sort of explore that with

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@nietzsche258918For them to have done so, uniquely advantageous, for them to have done this in Utah as opposed to the other states, and yes, absolutely would have been uniquely. Again, that doesn't make it, you know, orthodoxical. That doesn't make it right. That doesn't make it jive any more than Judeo-Christianity does. But clearly there is something there that they're taking advantage of, exploiting, however you want to put it.

Speaker 5The average voting mean in Utah is 35 years of age. People are busy raising their families. They are sheep. They go to work. They go to football practice, basketball practice, softball practice, baseball, whatever it is. And then they go about their life. They go to church. They're not even paying attention. If I go out every single day,

Speaker 5No one has a clue what's going on.

@nietzsche258918You're kind of supporting my argument, not yours, right?

Speaker 5Well, I'm not trying to be right.

@nietzsche258918I'm not trying to be right. If they're not paying attention, they're easier to exploit, right? If they're just going to, quote unquote, go with their gut, right? Then it's what's been programmed into them, right?

Speaker 5You didn't let me finish what I was saying.

@nietzsche258918Same with Americans, by the way, in general.

Speaker 5You didn't let me finish what I was saying, because I'm not trying to go against what you're saying. I'm just trying to express what the reality of this state is. They are a bunch of sheep. They go along to get along. They don't like confrontation. They want to accept everyone. They want to accept people from Afghanistan, from Iran, from everyone, because they believe that Utah is the new Zion.

Speaker 5They don't believe that Israel is Zion. That is their belief system, and I do have some discrepancies or disbeliefs there, but I don't know. I'm still coming of age of what I believe. Anyway, I lost what I was going to say, David.

@nietzsche258918I'm going to stop. Well, then why were Mormons in Israel way before Israel officially got planted there as far as a new Jewish state, why they were advocating for that 25 years?

Speaker 5Go back to the 60s when David O. McKay warned against Israel and Zionism.

@nietzsche258918Yeah, but I'm asking why were Jews there in Israel advocating for that?

Speaker 5I don't know. Back in that time, all I can say is that in 1968, David O. McKay wrote a book warning the Mormons, the LDS, Latter-day Saints, against Zionism. And getting involved with other countries. So he wrote a book and I have the link somewhere. I'll go find it. But he was warning us not to get involved and not to lose our way.

Speaker 5Who is that David person? David O. McKay. He was a prophet at the LDS Church.

@john_j_casey_All right, Sally, let me let me ask you this real quick. OK, so the Mormon religion is such a indoctrinated religion. You guys. You literally, literally, South Park made fun of everybody with finding golden scrolls, reading the Bible. They wrote your Bible and stuff. You guys followed a religion. But yet, you Mormons are implemented into the CIA, into the FBI, and into every intelligent agency more than any other religion.

@john_j_casey_They literally have...

@yoteofstreetI don't know.

@john_j_casey_I wouldn't say every other religion. Well, no, they are, but there's a reason for it. I won't say every other religion.

Speaker 5I will say this much. So, Ronnie, I explained this just a minute ago. So, when our children turn 19 years of age, our men, go on an LDS mission, which is normally to a foreign country, where they...

Speaker 5LDS when they come back. So yes, you are 100% accurate. I'm not saying that I'm a perfect LDS person. I'm not advocating for them. I was just speaking of a nuance that in a Jewish supremacist space, they were saying that the LDS were equivalent to Islam, which I think is false because we believe in Christ and we believe He died for our sins.

Speaker 5I don't know. You guys can take it from whatever direction you want.

Ian MalcolmI just find it funny because that space is comparing Mormonism to Islam, and here people are saying it's, let's say, either a ride along, let's say, with Jewish supremacy. I don't take either of those stances. I think there's probably elements of the Mormons, let's say, that are probably co-opted by the same power structure.

Ian MalcolmBut just to exemplify it, Sally, do you want to take a wild guess? Well, actually, let's start this way. Sally, who is the most prominent Mormon in American politics, if not finance?

Speaker 5Currently, I know that currently, I don't know that Mike Lee makes a lot of posts about The Mormons, but I don't know. I don't know.

Ian MalcolmMike Lee, I mean, he might be a candidate. Who would be the most prominent Mormon of the last 20 years?

Speaker 5Mitt Romney. Mitt Romney is not a good Mormon or LDS person.

Ian MalcolmWell, I'm not saying that he is, but so here's the wild part. So Mitt Romney, in my eyes anyway, the most prominent Mormon in American politics, in some ways in the economic world as well. Sally, do you want to take a random guess? Where Mitt Romney's early financing came directly from? You want to guess the man?

Speaker 5Would it be either Soros, Netanyahu, Ukraine?

Ian MalcolmYou're so close with the second one. Well, I mean, both people are Jewish, so I guess- Ukraine either.

Speaker 5His family was in Ukraine.

Ian MalcolmI mean- Sally, think even more ridiculous. Who would sit atop almost all of the subversion? Who sat atop maybe funding for Washington Island? Rockefeller.

Speaker 6None other than Robert Maxwell, the early funding for Mitt Romney. What are the odds, guys?

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Speaker 5Unlikely to win a seat in Utah, unless you're in Salt Lake City now, currently. But back in his day, you had to have an R in front of your name. So he was a complete rhino. He had globalist ideology. He's still running our state right now. So was it, what was his daughter's name that ran the RNC? What was her name? Anyway, I can't remember her name.

Speaker 5But no, this is what the thing was that Charlie said. It's just not right versus left. It's us versus them, and we need to make that distinction. And all of these ad hominems and all these putting us in a box, I get so frustrated. If you believe in individualism, you believe in individualism. If you want to say these people do these things because they are Russian or they're Ukrainian or they're Jewish, then we're losing the plot here in the United States.

Speaker 5It's all about individual accountability. Most likely.

@yoteofstreetYou're not very Mormon-y, though, Sally. That's the thing. You're more just, I don't know, like, read the Bible.

Ian MalcolmI think, Sally, so I love that you're here. I really, I do sincerely appreciate it because my objective is not to build, and I kind of joke about this, it's not to build the world's most anti-Semitic echo chamber. Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies

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Speaker 5Just real quick. Don't forget that our current governor, Spencer Cox, is a pronounced LDS person. He is a fraud. He stole an election. He made sure that the Charlie Kirk Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

@nietzsche258918And so, of course, we have real Christians going, wait a second now, that's not who we are. You know, we're not that. We're not for genocide. We're not for the synagogue of whatever. And the same is true. But what they do is they co-opt a portion of these groups of people, whether they be Mormons or Christians. And then if they will take the 30 pieces of silver, then they give them the giant megaphones and allow them to misrepresent

@nietzsche258918The rest of their so-called group. So I think that's kind of where you were going. I think we're all waking up to this trick. And of course, once we completely get rid of it, then those representatives will no longer have a voice.

Ian MalcolmYeah. And for what it's worth, just because I, again, I always like to be as detailed as can be. So it was Robert Maxwell and the Guinness fraudster is how they describe him in the Daily Mail. His name was Jack Lyons. And yes, Jack Lyons was Jewish in these two individuals. So the sub-headline, Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney built his $250 million fortune with the early financing of two of Britain's, they refer to them, most disreputable business figures, Guinness fraudster Jack Lyons and crooked newspaper boss Robert Maxwell.

Ian MalcolmIsn't it curious? They mentioned both of these people being British. But it's weird, they left out another unifying figure. And last time I checked it, it wasn't a state funeral of England that was given to Robert Maxwell. It was another nation that treated him as if he was a presidential figure and treated him with the same funeral that would have been given to their prime ministers, which of course took place in Israel.

Ian MalcolmHow curious. But anyway, let's check in back.

Speaker 5One last thing before you go to Forti is remember the Shrivers are here as well. That goes back to the UK and they're the ones passing the Dignity Index, which really means hate speech. They judge your speech on a scale of one to eight and they suppress your social media, your media, whether it come if you're writing for a campaign or whatnot.

Speaker 5So the Shrivers are here as well.

Ian MalcolmNo, very well stated and Lester, but one of the Well, I'll look into it before asking that question. Let's go to Mr. Forti.

@joann_marieForti? Forti going once. Forti going twice. Forti is not there.

Ian MalcolmAnd it was, it was Maria Shriver, who I guess was married to Arnold Schwarzenegger. So, small world there, Sally.

Speaker 5It's her brother, it's her brother. Don't worry, her brother lives here in Utah, pushing the Stigmey Index. Goes back to the UK at Tavistock Institute. They've been doing it since 9th, I think 1998, don't quote me on that year. But they've been doing it, implementing it in our schools since pre-K. So, yeah, there you go.

@yoteofstreetI found something yesterday. It was the day before. Bro, this Sergio Gore guy, he's from the Soviet Union. Mother's Israeli. I think his father, I'm trying to figure it out, but I'm pretty sure he was like IDF intelligence and stuff. He's the ambassador to India. Him and Elon got into it. Bro, he was doing like all the picking and choosing for Trump.

@yoteofstreetSo he moved from Uzbekistan or whatever that is to Malta. Bro, Maltese, he's the Knights of Malta. It's on his thing, bro. And he just flies through the radar. Who is this? Like, who are these people? I just, I don't understand. And now he's over there in India. But he owns half the publishing company with Donald Trump Jr. over the book, you know, the Sabbath book that Charlie Kirk put out?

@yoteofstreetBro, they publish it. So that's why Trump was promoting this shit. You can't make it up. I mean, it's like, ugh. I don't know if y'all know anything about Sergio Gore, but that dude is something to look into, man.

@joann_marieI don't know anything about him, but I'm going to look into it. Thank you so much, Coyote. Let's go to, and guys, please repost this space. Follow Ian and Sharon and Caulin and David and everybody in the panel are just absolutely amazing. So thank you so much for being here. All right. Oh, Thomas left. Okay. Pirate Smurf, welcome.

Speaker 7Hey guys, how you doing? Long time listener, Ian knows me, I've been around for about three years. Do you guys know anything about what's happening in Kashmir, Pakistan? Apparently, the last few days, the Pakistani military is attacking its own citizens in northern Pakistan, Kashmir area. Obviously, there was a reason why they removed Imran Khan two months before the Gaza genocide, and I used to bring it up in the JQ, and they're like, oh, he's Peter Thiel, he was with this and that.

Speaker 7Big names are always invited to these events. And obviously, once the Epstein files were released, it literally said he's more dangerous than Jinping and the Ayatollah and the Russian president. And if he was out, I believe he would have been more harsher towards Israel, obviously, Pakistan. But because Pakistan is controlled by Zionists and by the United States government, most Pakistani generals have bank accounts in the US.

Speaker 7They have properties out here. Thank you, Ian.

@joann_marieAll right. Thank you so much, Paret. I'm going to look into it. I mean, I know that they are always suppressing people who speak the truth in Pakistan, but I didn't know that was happening.

Speaker 7It was pretty big news, but the US media is covering it up. Obviously, you know, we're trying to get it out, but we get shadow banned quickly. So this is happening if you look into it deep. In London, there's a large protest in front of the Pakistani embassy. The Kashmiris are like literally like trying to separate them from Pakistan now.

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Ian MalcolmSo rose to political prominence, was kind of torn down. Within the JQ space, the reason that gets a little bit of criticism is because his wife, what is it, Jemima, I think it is?

Speaker 7Jemima Goldsmith, Jemima Goldsmith.

Ian MalcolmGoldsmith, there you go. The family- Wait, that last name. Well, that's the thing. So Jemima Goldsmith, her brothers, Ben Goldsmith and Zach Goldsmith- Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

Speaker 7I just want to say they just they try to recruit him. He opened two cancer hospitals. He worked with Princess Diana. You guys could look that up as well. I mean, he's the man of the people. But obviously he married some girl he met when he was young, you know, and, you know, things happen.

@joann_marieThey're cutting out a lot of pirates.

Ian MalcolmAnd I don't- I'll drop down. And for what it's worth, he's also he's been essentially a political prisoner as best I can understand. And I call that out because I always like to just do so. I like to call balls and strikes and say, well, this is weird. And it is. It's just unbelievably coincidental that the Rothschild family just in that same mixture once again.

Ian MalcolmI wonder if they were on the same boat with Jared Kushner and Trump's daughter when they were scouting out the next island to buy in Albania. Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies With

Ian MalcolmFor sure that he was looking out for his people in a lot of different ways. So if he is the hero, he's certainly in our prayers, uh, communally speaking, uh, as are all people of the world. Right. And, and, uh, Sally, he would actually, you know, back to this idea of not all people dot, dot, dot are Jews that are part of Jewish supremacy.

Ian MalcolmI don't know if that man was perhaps he was, you know, offered this platform. Maybe he started speaking out and Moving the needle in ways they didn't like, so they locked the guy up. It's entirely possible. And that's the real challenge about this, is we notice that everywhere. Sincerely, think about this. Thomas Massey, what a great example.

Ian MalcolmHe went on Tucker Carlson's program. He said all Republicans have an AIPAC handler that tell them what to do and how to vote. All of them. And he said, yeah, they go into contact. They said, oh, I'm going to have lunch with my AIPAC guy to get my marching orders. And what happened to Thomas? Oh, that's right. After winning overwhelmingly time after time after time, he somehow loses despite the number of votes for the election nearly doubling.

Ian MalcolmAnd isn't it weird that it increased by almost the exact volume of votes needed to beat him? It's just gotta be a coincidence.

@yoteofstreetEverybody voted.

Ian MalcolmIt's just crazy. So he got even more votes than he had previously and yet still lost because of this drastic uptick in the total vote count. And this is the problem is it feels like anybody that honestly, if any politician comes out tomorrow and speaks out against this machine, I would not doubt for what it's worth that if Donald Trump came out tomorrow and said, I am not giving another dollar to Israel.

Ian MalcolmI am pulling back our military. We are going to blockbuster all of the absurd monopolies that certain groups have on technology and on the media. I don't doubt at all that he would essentially be assassinated the following day. And Netanyahu would get on television an hour later and say, we had nothing to do with it. It's so crazy.

Ian MalcolmAnd that's the problem is that we're under the boot of this machine that perhaps in the example of Charlie Kirk. They said, oh, you're going to send a message saying that you're going to walk away from the Israeli cause? Well, sorry. Right? And that's what makes this so dangerous. Oh, go for it.

Speaker 7Yeah, one more thing. You guys were talking about the beepers. That's why I came up, actually, for that other reason. I would recommend do not order anything from Amazon, TikTok. If your big name's on here, they got our info. They can put something in it. Don't order Uber Eats. I'm going to start going to the stores myself.

Speaker 7I'm not buying anything online anymore because the situation is getting very hostile. And these fucking Jews are going to come after us, especially the big names like Ian. I don't know. I just don't know. These people are fucking nuts. Anyhow, I'm going to go.

Ian MalcolmNo, you know, I welcome it. I really do. And I say that because at the end of the day, and I'm sure a lot of people up here, I bet, actually, I'll mention this to David and I'd love his thought on it. I've spent my life kind of looking up to heroes. It didn't matter if it was Jesus Christ, if it was Aragorn and Luke Skywalker, Indiana Jones portrayed by a Jew, right?

Ian MalcolmWith Harrison Ford. It didn't matter, right? I don't care. The character of Indiana Jones and of Han Solo, right? These were selfless heroes, right? And what a wild story arc it was in the original Star Wars film. The smuggler, right? Who falls in love with the woman, but he says, nah, I'm in this for the money. He takes his silver and he goes away.

Ian MalcolmExcept he comes back at the very end and he's the guy that makes it possible to blow up the Death Star. He saves the galaxy, right? I'm sure there's lots of people in here that are drawn to this cause and try to take action on it, whether it's those on this panel, whether it's allegedly Dank who is helping with AI to push this out to other platforms, right?

Ian MalcolmHe's doing it because he wants to make the world a better place. And if tomorrow Somebody showed up at my door and said, look, we're going to dox you and you're being arrested for hate speech. I would say, well, this is unfortunate. And it's a curious sort of event because, guys, all you're doing is validating the very thing in my pinned tweet, which is literally just data and facts that are presented free of hate that you are deeming hateful because they're inconvenient for your further of, let's say, power grab, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd so if they did that tomorrow, It would further expose the absurdity of the JQ. It would further validate all of the accusations that we've been making. It would awaken a lot of people that would look at the things that I say on here and say, oh, that's hyperbolic and crazy. It would bring to life the very concerns that we express.

Ian MalcolmAnd so in a way, just like those heroes that are willing to put their life on the line for a higher power. I'm perfectly fine and comfortable being part of that. I don't want that to happen. Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

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Ian MalcolmWhich I think is just, it's how any hero would try to act. And I'm certainly not one of those, but I can at least aspire to be one and try and replicate behaviors that I think would be in alignment with that. David, I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on this because, you know, you speak romantically about a lot of these philosophical ideas.

Ian MalcolmAnd I think when it comes to this, this is what draws people ultimately to our cause no differently than it would many different things throughout humanity.

@nietzsche258918He reminds me of the great line by Pericles when he said, there's no shame in losing except for the unwillingness to fight. How much more is that true when that fight just means speaking the truth? It really is just a matter of, it's not only a matter of the truth versus the lie, but the well-financed lie versus millions, billions of people who have the capacity to lift up their voice and speak the truth.

@nietzsche258918That's your responsibility. And I've said for a very long time, Your responsibility for speaking the truth is to protect your own soul. I don't think the truth actually needs my defense. You know, that which is always will be irrespective of whether I speak up or not. But why must I speak up? Because I am defending the innocent.

@nietzsche258918If you've ever sat in a room with people with whom you disagree and there's unanimity because people are expected to just agree and you say, I don't agree. You simply say that you don't agree. It's a bit of a shock to everyone else. Because when it's something that's supposed to be kind of, you know, heterodox, you know, when it's something that's supposed to be, well, you need to believe this and no one's supposed to question this.

@nietzsche258918And I've done this, you know, in many different instances, including a boardroom. And it's just jarring. Oh, you mean I just can't say whatever it is that I want and get away with it? No, no. And then they can denounce me. They can tell me to leave their home if I've been someone else's home. But I am going to speak the truth.

@nietzsche258918And it's very, very powerful. The idea that you don't have agency, that you don't have power, that is the ruse of the people that deign to rule you. It is incredibly powerful to say the thing that is true. And that's why you hear me over and over and over again, Advocating for not being clever. Do not be clever. And also, you don't have to be the PhD of everything.

@nietzsche258918It's their job. He who posits or acts, if he claims to be rational, must defend. So, why is it that you believe this? Why is it that you think this is wrong to say? And of course, then you see them collapse. And what do they do? What do they do? They do the monkey dance. They start changing the conversation. They get excited.

@nietzsche258918They dance all over the place. Imagine the claim that is at hand, whether they made it or you made it, as a sentence on a whiteboard, and you keep pointing back to that and simply asking, is that true or is that false? And even if they attack you, okay, assume that I have risen from the bowels of hell to say that thing written right on that whiteboard isn't all your work ahead of you.

@nietzsche258918To tell me whether that thing is true or false, and that's the problem that they are faced with. I wouldn't be, I wouldn't want to be in their position if I was faced with millions of people who found the courage to simply state the truth. Thomas Jefferson certainly believed this. He said we should have a vigorous debate of ideas.

@nietzsche258918Remember that if you're afraid of them, you have tyranny, and if they're afraid of you, If they're afraid of you, then you have freedom. So just keep saying the truth. There is a romantic thing involved in saying the truth. It's the child saying the emperor has no clothes. I love that story because the child is innocent and he's like, hey, the emperor is naked.

@nietzsche258918And of course, that's what these people are bereft or unclothed in the truth and we should call them out for that very fact.

Speaker 5Hey, I've got to finish my page, my talking points, so please, David, do not interrupt me while I've got to get through this whole list of talking points. And do not interrupt me because I must complete them.

Ian MalcolmYeah, David. Right. Page one. Did Ben Shapiro or Netanyahu send them to you, Sally?

Speaker 5I want to know who sent them to that person because if you interrupt them when they're online too, then they have to start over from the beginning. So just let them get through their talking points so they can collect their paycheck so I can have a real conversation about important facts and lies.

@nietzsche258918Didn't we just hear today, I have these eight points I have to make. What? What? Eight points? Who said that today?

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Speaker 5I can listen so I can be on stage and I can listen for hours and hours and hours and today I don't know what but I just got today and yesterday I just could not take the narrative spin anymore because usually I don't like to interrupt Diligent I don't like to interrupt anyone but today I am done with people pushing a narrative trying to make me believe something

Speaker 5The sky is blue, it's not green. So stop trying to tell me the sky is green, please.

@nietzsche258918I still think the funniest thing, and I saw you laughing in the background, Ian, is when the guy was trying to impugn me by saying, David thinks that 9-11 was done by Israel. He didn't realize he was permitting me an advertisement every time he said it. Because I would just go, yep, they did that.

@joann_marieYeah, I know exactly who you're talking about, David. The guy who has like a Peaky Blinders picture, right?

@nietzsche258918Yeah, exactly. That's it.

@joann_marieHe's hilarious.

@nietzsche258918He's like, David, they did it. And I go, yep, they did that. Yep. Yeah. I'm like, dude, this is not working out for you. This is not the hope that you think it is.

Speaker 5Four times, David, in that space? Yeah. Israel did 9-11.

Ian MalcolmYeah, they did 9-11, by the way. Yes, they did that. Yes. David, I liked when Joe started out by, he said, there's lots of things we can critique and criticize, right? It's not like we're going in and you guys are sitting here saying Israel is responsible for the flat Earth. And I was like, well... Oh, that was so funny, Ian.

Speaker 5I laughed so hard at that.

Ian MalcolmAnd here's the wild thing, Sally, and I've got a lot of respect for Joe because I argued with him, and I think David was in some of these, certainly TruthTeller was, and we would go back and forth, and there was a point in time when I would say, guys, Jews control the media, and that was certainly taboo, and Joe and I would go back and forth, and we would box on it and all these other things.

Ian MalcolmAnd if there's one thing that I can appreciate more than any other, especially in this effort on this app, It is those people that are willing to look at something and over a course of time reconsider even positions that they are very steadily in. And Joe has done that in a variety of contexts. And so to see him come in and be able to make some of these observations he has about the way that this Tyler Robinson case is being tried, it gives me a lot of hope and optimism.

Ian MalcolmBecause if there's somebody that's practical and pragmatic and thoughtful the way that Joey is, if he was once very averse to some of the things that we would suggest, and now he's willing to come in and say, guys, I mean, I changed my mind on it. It tells me that not only are thoughtful people capable of it, but they're then of course gonna evangelize some of these ideas into audiences that otherwise might never listen to us because of course we sound...

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Ian MalcolmHe's going to talk about Israel and Jews. And now even Diligent is looking at things like what you're seeing in the space today. It's not just the ideas and the lies. It's the way in which they're delivered by their messengers that clearly have no interest in honest discourse and problem solving. It is clearly just pushing an agenda.

Ian MalcolmIt's like we're doing an algebra problem. And we're all saying, okay, this plus that minus this, let's multiply this. And you got a guy in the corner of the room saying math is stupid. And we're like, what is happening? It's just a complete attempt to derail everything that's happening rather than trying to honestly look at the problem.

Speaker 5And really- Well, guys, when I get canceled, I want you to let you guys know I'm on Rumble, I'm on YouTube, I'm on Twitter, I'm on Twitch. So when I get canceled for my opinions, you guys can follow me over there.

@nietzsche258918Yeah, likewise. And I would say this, Ian, you know who else was like that is Charlie Kirk. Because just imagine, you know, nobody likes it when to be lied to. You know, lies are exclusionary. When someone is intentionally lying to you and deceiving you, it's a zero sum game. It means they don't like you. They don't respect you.

@nietzsche258918And so for Charlie Kirk, who was very supportive of Israel, All of a sudden to be just moving one inch to create a tiny little ray of daylight between himself and Israel and then get denunciated for it. And then because he was willing to listen to all sides, to engage all sides. By the way, I think Charlie Kirk to this day, the thing that impressed me the most about him was his advocacy for free speech.

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@nietzsche258918is a great example of what you just mentioned, Ian, because all of a sudden when he's being told, you're evil for listening to these people. You're evil for questioning this narrative. You're evil for saying, gosh, Epstein worked with the Mossad. It really looked like that. You're evil for saying we control the media. Well, this is really just sort of galling to hear people do this.

@nietzsche258918So I don't think it's necessarily people like myself or People on our side completely, I think it's also really disenchanting for the Charlie Kirks of the world to listen to the other side, how disingenuous they are, how deceptive they are, and how obfuscating they are in their argumentative replies. What do you think about that?

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Ian MalcolmAnd I bring this up because whether it was immigration or whether it was LGBT ideology, on all of these points, what I found over and over and over again is I would argue kind of right-ish wing policies based on principles that aligned with more conservative ideology that was both religious and nationalistic. And what I found was that I would almost always be called by leftists what we today would think of essentially the woke.

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Ian MalcolmIn some ways, I wouldn't even care if it was immigration from Western European nations and they were white people because I could still make the argument, well, this is going to have a negative, let's say, detrimental impact on perhaps salaries, on the ability to earn and own a home because the prices are going to go up if you just have unfettered immigration.

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Ian MalcolmAnd they are the alien George Costanzas. And if they could articulate why it was a sensible idea, I would be happy to discuss it with them until the end of days. The ones that would come in and say you're a bigot or a racist or whatever because you won't agree with the way that I see things, those people are intellectually deficient.

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Ian MalcolmIf that's all they can do forever is just say you're a bigot, you're an anti-Semite, don't listen to them. Eventually they're going to listen to what we are saying and they're going to realize that it makes far more sense and it's based on far more reasonable positions than to just hand wave, right? To obfuscate, to do the monkey dance as David would suggest, right?

Ian MalcolmSo on one side you've got the Charlie Kirk approach. I will sit here, I will talk to you all day. Let's try to realize why we have a disagreement. Maybe we can distill it all the way down to the most foundational principles. And maybe you don't care about a nation, its civilization, its borders. Maybe you take that position, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd then you have a laissez-faire approach to everything. Well, at least we're getting somewhere, right? But the people that would say you're wrong because, well, I'm right and you're a bigot. Those people can only last in this for so long if we're just gonna take the approach that Charlie Kirk did and David, to your point, I think that's why he was so,

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@nietzsche258918And therefore, I have to attack you and question your motives. Does the idea that I'm expressing, is it true on the face of it? As a stated fact, is it true or is it false? Well, of course, the person who makes the ad hominem attack is agreeing with you that it's true, and that's why they're making that attack. Goodness and truth are natural concomitants.

@nietzsche258918So people that are against the truth People that are trying to stop you from speaking the truth want to do bad things. They are not good people. So, you know, if there's a beggar on the street and on a street corner and you're like, why is he there all day? Well, it's probably working, right? He's gotta be some incentive.

@nietzsche258918He's gotta be requiting his incentive. He's gotta be benefiting somehow. The person who's making the ad hominem attacks, the people that make the ad hominem attacks will stop doing it If it stops working, so don't fall for it anymore. From now on, stick to the facts. Do what Charlie Kirk does. He could stand right in front of someone, and I really admired this, irrespective of whether I agree with him or not, and have someone attacking him, you're awful, you're evil, you're this and you're that, and he's looking right back, give me the facts, tell me where I lied, tell me what I said that was wrong.

@nietzsche258918Have that same courage. Just stick with the truth and don't do it desperately. Don't get upset. They want you to do that. Let them have the misery. Let them be the ones that hate. Let them be the ones that are upset. You and your response just stick to the facts. Keep saying the truth. And by the way,

@yoteofstreetIt's like I remember, I always say that to Ian. I remember it was, man, I didn't want to go in there. It was like, oh, this is the juice. But honestly, it's like a learned condition or something because hearing y'all talk right now, nobody seems hateful. Nobody's even anti-Semitic, bro. You can hear people that do push that kind of shit or whatever.

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@yoteofstreetHe's woken me up a lot, bro. You know what I'm saying? And honestly, whenever I started looking into this stuff, I remember him telling me, you know, I had the critical thinking. Like, I see shit differently. You know, the pattern recognition at it. It's where I can point some shit out and, you know, don't get me looking into the history books.

@yoteofstreetI'll tell you every person that's Jewish, bro. Real quick. It's like a little radar because you got to point these things out to learn, to know. And don't ask, like, the person, well, why are you putting, you know, What is it? Is it because they're pointing out all the Jewish people or is it because the Jewish people are in the position to be pointed out?

@yoteofstreetI don't know. Maybe it's maybe it's both. No, maybe it's that one. Yeah. Anyway, I appreciate it.

@joann_marieI thank you so much. I loved everything you said. And for those that don't know, Shlomo Perl is code for useful idiot. So that was the word that they put Charlie Kirk hanging. Donald Trump. So it's pretty crazy. But we do have a couple of hands. So thank you so much for your patience, guys. All right. Thomas.

@thomas984634784Hey, how's it going, you guys? I hope you guys are well. Great space as always, Ian and Joanne, your great co-hosts. And Sharon, good to see you guys up there. That's awesome. I had actually it's quite relevant to the conversation. I was just waiting my turn. A lot of great voices in here. So I get in this debate a lot about whether Jeffrey Epstein was Mossad.

@thomas984634784And I think it's worth laying out because it's quite obvious, but a lot of these names aren't really known. This is kind of like very in the weeds of the Israeli intelligence community. So you had his father-in-law, Robert Maxwell, media mogul. Forgotten History & Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

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@thomas984634784Adnan Khashoggi is a Saudi arms dealer. He's a wealthy billionaire. Huge tabloid fodder in the 80s, the Iran-Contra deal. He's one of the main players. Epstein runs a firm for Adnan Khashoggi, Intercontinental Assets Group. And this is like one of his main or only clients for this firm.

@thomas984634784It's Victor Ostrovsky, and yeah, it is by way of deception. He wrote this detailed account about all these different Mossad connections, and he named specifically Adnan Khashoggi as involved in various operations, including the Israelis and the Saudis. Very important because this ties Epstein to Mossad in that way, but

@thomas984634784There are many other direct ties, including with his very close connection to Ehud Barak, but a really important asset that was involved in all of that, Yoni Karen. And he was a veteran covert operations, like Mossad intelligence background, Lieutenant Colonel, right? He was a long-time senior aide and bureau chief for Ehud Barak at the Ministry of Defense.

@thomas984634784He stayed at Epstein's Manhattan townhouse between 2013-15 for extended periods, weeks at a time. Epstein corresponded directly with him, transferred money to him, including related to his cancer treatment in 2012.

@thomas984634784Corrine actually had ties to this apartment that the Israeli government security equipment was installed in. So he, you know, direct ties like from like Israeli intelligence gathering to Epstein through this Corrine character. Ehud Barak, obvious, you know, visited Epstein's properties over 30 times. Insane connections.

@thomas984634784Ari Ben-Minaj, he was a former Israeli intelligence officer. He claimed that Epstein was recruited via Robert Maxwell for intelligence and blackmail work. He is, you know, he said he's not like a direct operational colleague, which it's worth noting is in line with a, in 2020, DOJ and FBI released information that a vetted CI said that

@thomas984634784Epstein was, quote, co-opted Mossad. And it's, I mean, just a very similar kind of trend between these two separate kind of intelligence, you know, kind of accounts. So, I mean, it's very interesting. So, you know, Carbine, again, like this character... Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

@thomas984634784Work with Black Cube Involved, work with Eric Prince's Frontier Services Group. I know this is kind of going down a huge rabbit hole here, but my phone crashed like three times pulling up all these different names, so if that tells you anything. But these, I mean, Epstein's ties like directly and peripherally to Mossad and Israeli intelligence, I mean, it's overwhelming.

@thomas984634784He worked direct with this carbine and Ehud Barak, former prime minister of Israel. It's just like, it's insurmountable evidence. And then you have these books like Victor Ostrovsky tying one of Epstein's direct employers as a Mossad intermediary. You have direct accounts that Robert Maxwell was a similar role, an intermediary to Mossad.

@thomas984634784One thing I forgot to mention about the CI account was that he mentioned the direct tie to Alan Dershowitz and that he was involved in this network of intelligence and Epstein and connections. And that's important because Alan Dershowitz is on record saying that he knows People who are involved in crimes connected to Epstein, he knows names, he knows what they did, and that he's bound by confidentiality and that he can't disclose anything that he knows.

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@nietzsche258918To control our elite, our politicians, and our civilization. And then, didn't you find it, because it was really just sort of rising to a crescendo because of what happened when Trump got elected, because we all thought, we all saw it, right? And it seemed like it was running along the left-right dichotomy, old Trump's gonna save us, he's gonna come in and get these people.

@nietzsche258918And then Trump took the mask off and went, no, that's all a hoax. No, you know, Epstein's a great guy, you know, and... And, you know, there's no, uh, you know, there's nothing, there's no there, there, and we all went, this is clearly not true, right?

@thomas984634784Oh, the Nick Fuentes, uh, selling, uh, quarters in...

@nietzsche258918I mean, it was just, but we all saw this, right? And, and then, now, this is my question to you. When Charlie Kirk got assassinated, all of a sudden, the Epstein thing went away for, like, at least a few weeks. Like there was no, like this thing was filling the media because what Thomas Massey was doing was just amazing because he basically, what Trump did was he threw down, he dropped the mantle basically, right?

@nietzsche258918Or the baton, let's use that metaphor. And Massey picked it up and went, no, no, no, nope, the Epstein thing. We gotta do this, we gotta do this. And then all of a sudden he became the enemy. We've seen what happened as a result of that. But it was interesting with the Charlie Kirk assassination because it really does look like Israel did that.

@nietzsche258918I'm just saying this, right? They're the ones who are making themselves look way more guilty. So I think that we have a right to say it when they're trying so hard to support that claim by their actions. And then all of a sudden, no discussion during that time about the Epstein thing. It was just gone maybe for a month, maybe for two months, but it was just like,

@nietzsche258918In my opinion, the Epstein thing is what we have to go back to. Because it really is everything. The chink in the armor. The chink in the armor for them is the Epstein thing. Because if we figure out, if we can clue this idea. Remember when Trump, the first time Trump splurged out, it was that one question. Did intelligence have anything to do with this?

@nietzsche258918And he just started screeching, screeching like a banshee. He didn't say no. We never got an answer to that question. We have not gotten an answer to the question of whether, to what degree Israel is involved, are intelligence involved. By the way, I think those are the same thing. I think there's an intelligence industrial complex now.

@nietzsche258918I think MI6 and the Mossad and the CIA are the same thing and they exist in opposition to their respective populations. But I really feel like we should go back to this because if we figure that out and we say yes, A foreign country was running a blackmail operation against America, then that means that our greatest ally is our greatest enemy.

@nietzsche258918What do you think about that?

@joann_marieCan I just add something super, super quick? You reminded me when you were talking about Dostoevsky. There is another book that he wrote that is The Other Side of Deception. I've only read bits and pieces, but in that one, he talks about how Mossad wanted to kill George H.W. Bush in Madrid, and they already had Palestinians there to use them as patsies.

@joann_marieSo it reminds me of all of what happened with Charlie Kirk. These people are They're willing to kill absolutely anyone who gets in their way. So, yeah, it's such an interesting book.

@thomas984634784I'm so glad you brought that up, Joanne, because, yeah, that's like the sequel to By Way of Deception. And it's yeah, it's it's I mean, Mark Twain said it best is like history doesn't repeat itself. It rhymes. Right. I mean, they use these same tactics over and over. And yet, David, I think I think that the murder of Charlie Kirk did distract everybody from.

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@thomas984634784And he called me Gunther Eagleman. He said, Ronnie, Ronnie, Ronnie, you sound like Gunther Eagleman. And it was like a week later we went to, I'll pull up the date, literally, it was literally like five days later we went to war with Iran. And I mean, I've considered it a hot war since we bombed the nuclear facilities.

@thomas984634784So this is over a year in my count. And I made the claim, and it sounded crazy at the time, I think it was at the New Year, but I think this war will outlive Donald Trump. They don't have the capacity to end this conflict. And it's not gonna end on, Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies With atJoseAlNino. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies With atJoseAlNino.

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@thomas984634784Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga They're, you know, full steam ahead. So this is, I mean, this administration is lying to you about everything and it's working to their end. I mean, they have, I mean, siphoned trillions of dollars and that's not, I mean, that's not a hiccup with a T. Literally, the democratization of 401K assets, one of the executive orders that Donald Trump wrote,

@thomas984634784It takes 12 to 13 trillion dollars from our 401ks and bails out private equity firms like Apollo Kobo Management and KKR and Blackstone and a lot of very egregious characters and not because they're gonna fail but because they have they face stagnant returns because of terrible you know Decision-making and it's an egregious act against the American people.

@thomas984634784That on its own should have people quite upset with this administration. But then you have Howard Ludnick shortchanging a futile tariff policy and benefiting to the tunes of tens of billions of dollars in children and cancer Fitzgerald subsidiaries. You have the insider trading and Barron Trump. It's just insane what this administration is doing.

@thomas984634784Again, it's like this larger agenda just keeps getting followed. It's not like a red-blue, it's like the Jew in you. To kind of make a joke of it. When Biden administration, Department of Defense issued Directive 5240.01,

@nietzsche258918It looks like he's trying to get at it, but he can't.

@thomas984634784I think this administration was purchased, and I think it's a prostitute system that we're looking at. And frankly, this administration and the agendas they're pushing were purchased by Timothy Mellon and Miriam Adelson and Elon Musk. And that's why you're getting H1Bs and technocratic fucking agendas and AI partnerships.

@thomas984634784And that's why... The genesis mission exists and that's why data centers are being built and that's why the war with Iran is happening and that's I mean it's just like it was purchased that the lobbyists went out the they've been lobbying for our 401k assets for decades and Trump is the one greedy enough to take money from the American people and give it to his friends and people like Leon Black I mean like this guy is involved in the largest private settlement

@thomas984634784With the Epstein disclosure to the Virgin Islands, like $63 million. He was directly involved in crimes against these victims. And his fucking baby, Apollo Global Management, is being given millions of taxpayer dollars. Like from your 401k, your retirement, your nested. So I don't know that people understand that this is happening because I think it should be like the only thing we're talking about.

@thomas984634784I've been talking about it since I mean Tiffany Cianci and some people who have like she's you know she's interviewed like RFK Jr. She's done some great investigative work and like reports on these kind of things. She's been talking about this for like I think like a year now or a year or more.

@thomas984634784And it's insane because it literally is happening, and they're already divvying out the chat. I mean, it's an executive order. It's happening. What's really scary about the executive orders is that a lot of them haven't happened, and it's going to be this whole back and forth, this arbitrary kind of movement. But a lot of them were pushed through with the big, beautiful bill, which was really bad, which is why we got a lot of gender-affirming care and a lot of really millions of adults on Medicaid receiving gender-affirming care.

@thomas984634784You have the child surgeries. Nothing that this administration promised is happening and people should be upset. I'm not saying be kinetic, I'm saying be animated. This is a very bad time to be an American taxpayer. If you've purchased a home, if you're working a job and you're not some crypto faggot like Trillian. Sorry for the ad hominem.

@thomas984634784I know what we said already. I hate that guy though. The views of the speakers aren't the views of the host. Obviously, less IQ in this space has been kind of set up for.

@thomas984634784I'm sure if you think the dollar doesn't matter, like the Federal Reserve birthing this fucking downfall that it's lost 96% of its value, the American dollar, since the birth of the Federal Reserve. If you think that doesn't matter, then I think you're insane. And I think if you're like me and you work a job and you've worked through like the last 10 Christmases and you miss all these Easter egg hunts, you do all this stuff to work and provide.

@thomas984634784And I've been able to buy a home because of it, but not everybody can do that. And I think it's impossible for people to miss like their kids opening their Christmas gifts. And it's not something I would ask anybody to do, but you can do it, but that's the cost now. And I think that's too high of a cost.

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@nietzsche258918And they're doing it to the tune of trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars, which is why that I keep coming back to the matrix line by Morpheus, where he holds up a battery and he says, look, this is all you are to them. It's just extracting your energy. You know, wealth is the product of human effort and ingenuity, and they are just attaching you to a hose.

@nietzsche258918And extracting that. There is nothing esoteric anymore. There is nothing about political ideologies or right or left or anything else. This is nothing more than a process of enslavement. Reduce you to servitude, shut you up, and extract your wealth for the rest of your life. So not speaking out about it really kind of is the sanction of the victim right there.

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Ian MalcolmIt's insane, isn't it? It reminds me of Jordan Belfort. Jewish, right? The Wolf of Wall Street.

@thomas984634784Hey, isn't that just the microcosm of the larger community? And just the idea of this... I mean, just the audacity, right? Or how about Signal Chata, right? The Israeli-born... What was it? District Attorney. I don't have to look up exactly, but has dropped the case against Tom Alexandrovich. He dropped it?

@thomas984634784She's not pursuing anything against Tom Alexandrovich, but continuing to pursue against the other. There was like eight people involved in that sting in Nevada. Again, Tom Alexandrovich is the Israeli cyber minister. He's part of the Netanyahu cabinet. He was at a Black Hat conference in Nevada, here in the States, and he tried to pick up a 12-year-old.

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@thomas984634784And now they've completely dropped the charges.

@nietzsche258918And the U.S. prosecutor that denied the case was born in Israel.

@joann_marieYeah, that is her. And also she let go another Jew who had like an illegal biolab. And she also... Harry Solomon. Yes.

@thomas984634784And that is an insane story. The guy had a fucking biolab with like biologic material. That's domestic terrorism.

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@nietzsche258918Now has allowed a pedophile, because he's guilty if he runs away, come on, has now allowed a pedophile to run back. This is a pedophile, by the way, that bragged about deplatforming over 50,000 Americans. Like that's the person that you're letting go? That's the person that has power? Of course, of course now we're seeing the pattern.

@nietzsche258918And the fact that the President of the United States could have said, well, I'm expecting that person back in exactly eight minutes and 22 seconds or all funding is cut off. And this didn't happen. And it just showed you, just like you're saying, it just showed you absolutely it's evidence, clear and concise evidence that that country controls our government.

@nietzsche258918There's no way. You cannot, it's inescapable. Because otherwise they wouldn't have the impudence and the arrogance to allow that to happen.

@thomas984634784She's the U.S. Attorney for Nevada. Sorry, I said District Attorney. I posted the receipt. It's egregious. And you know why, David, I knew that there was something really to this case? It's because all the Jews you would debate, including people like Laura Loomer and people like Gad Saad. Gad Saad would have written a book.

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@thomas984634784I think he's like a UN ambassador or something. He's given some different kind of role in the administration as a result of committing treason. So it's an insane situation, what's happening, and people will pretend that there's not some direct, irrefutable tie between the Israeli government and our government, especially this administration.

@thomas984634784I mean, you can't... You could argue maybe some other administrations maybe didn't have this. I mean, maybe. I mean, I don't even know if I could start that argument. But this administration in particular, the people that are connected, like Alexander Acosta, Bill Barr. I mean, all these people are connected directly to like Epstein and Israel.

@thomas984634784And I mean, you have Howard Lutnick. You have all these different figures, like direct ties.

Ian MalcolmDon't forget, Anthony Blinken, who ran the Biden administration, was the son of none other than Robert Maxwell's best friend. It's just so insane. The whole thing is just so preposterous. Samuel Pizarro, for anybody not familiar, go look him up. He's the actual stepfather of Tony Blinken, again, Secretary of State with Joe Biden's administration.

Ian MalcolmAnd Samuel Pizarro is the longtime friend of none other than Robert Maxwell. Which is, I mean, Thomas, like, we could go all the way back, right? We could go back to Obama and Hillary Clinton and none other than when she was running the State Department and it was Jelaine Maxwell's nephew that ran Middle Eastern policy for the Obama administration.

Ian MalcolmLike, the whole thing is so crazy. They've been running the country for 20 years at this point, if not longer.

Ian MalcolmIt's the seven degrees of Kevin Jew. What would it be? Kevin Baked Jew.

@nietzsche258918Well, bacon can be kosher, I guess. But think about the fact that when the Dancing Israelis were caught, they were released. I mean, two of them worked for the Mossad. They had a business that was clearly a front. It was all fake. They said they were there to document the event. They obviously had advanced knowledge of the event.

@nietzsche258918I mean, how could you go there to set up and enjoy it like you're tailgating without knowing? And then lastly, the FBI to this day will not release the information that they got on those people. I mean, this is, come on, it's obvious. And then you let them go back. Why? You never, ever, ever made Israel answer to it nothing.

@nietzsche258918So this is clearly another example where, okay, Our government is captured by their government. This is it. You can't, it's inescapable. There's no other conclusion in which to arrive.

Ian MalcolmYeah, when they said on, and that was on Israeli television that they said they were there to grab the event. It's like, how can these things happen? And we're the, like, I can understand there could be a conspiracy, right? The Loch Ness Monster, Bigfoot, right? Aliens in Area 51. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a Jew tied to that.

Ian MalcolmBut right, like when it comes to 9-11 and all these other things, it's like there's nothing conspiratorial about this. This is just the obvious truth. I mean, at some point, right, it'd be like we're in the middle of the woods and all of a sudden there's a huge light and we see it's going quickly down what looks like a distant road.

Ian MalcolmAnd we're like, you know, I see those lights and it's moving at a high speed. And, you know, now I hear an exhaust sound. Hey, David, I think that might be a car in the distance, and you're like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist. What are you doing? It's all so crazy, but we've got Birdman and Tim Lorden here. Why don't we go to Tim Lorden, and then we'll check in with the Birdman.

Ian MalcolmTim, you with us? Oh, you hear me? Yeah, you hear me okay? We can, my friend.

@timlordanAwesome, yeah. I was just about to send you the video of them saying, or Victor Ostrowski saying,

Ian MalcolmTim, I've got to ask you to kind of walk that one, not walk it back, but to repeat yourself there on that idea of if Epstein was Mossad, he wouldn't have been punished at all. It's like, wait a second, guys. I think your hubris is getting the best of you again. Would you kind of walk us through that comment again? Because that's so outlandish that they would say it out loud.

@timlordanYeah, I'm not sure if that was on Piers Morgan or what that was. I might not have been coming to think of it. But it was Alan Dershowitz being questioned on whether Epstein was Mossad. And he said if he was, then we would have gotten out of it. I don't have that video on hand.

@sharoncelt7They have no self-awareness whatsoever. It's crazy.

@timlordanI think that that was said intentionally because I remember going back and forth. Actually, Joanne, I remember going back and forth with you a little bit. And I said, I think it was either you or me that said something about like, oh, that's just fake. They're just saying that so that they won't think he's with Israel or whatever, trying to put more real estate between Israel and Epstein.

@timlordanBut yeah, so the other thing I wanted to mention was the rollout of the low IQ anti-Semitism campaign.

@timlordanPeople making documentaries.

Ian MalcolmThey bragged about it with the pagers.

@timlordanYeah, the pagers.

@timlordanIt's insane. The one other point I wanted to hit on, I'm glad I'm remembering everything. What I've been doing is I've been calling the politicians, not to talk to the politicians, but to talk to the people who work there. And be like, you realize that you're doing this for this person that's doing this. And basically breaking it down.

@timlordanAnd if they, like, claim to have no opinion on it, which is what they normally do, I think legally they can't have an opinion on anything, which is weird for the United States of America. But I just call them out on them, like, well, you're complicit and you're the one who's, you know, working for the guy who's doing the thing and you're not willing to call it out.

@timlordanSo, you know, you're guilty as well. So, you know, and I hope that resonates with the people I've been talking to. And they go home, like, one of the people, like, knew exactly what I was talking about. It was somebody working for Chrissy Houlihan. And I'm like, and they kind of, sometimes they try and push the, oh, well, if the Republicans just did such and such.

@timlordanAnd I'm like, no, no, you got John Fetterman in Pennsylvania taking millions of dollars waving Israeli flags in the face of veterans. You know, you got this guy who's obviously an Israeli puppet. He's a Democrat. You got plenty of Democrats taking, you know, Kamala Harris. You got 200 other Democrats taking hundreds of thousands, if not millions of dollars from the Israeli lobby.

@timlordanDon't try and blame the Democrats. Chris C. Houlihan

@joann_marieThank you so much for that, Tim. I forgot about all of that and that wonderfully said. All right. Let's go to Hubbard, who was here for a while. And thank you so much for your patience, Hubbard. Go for it. Welcome.

Speaker 8Hey, guys. Nice to be here. Yeah, definitely. I think the Epstein thing really, like if you look at the client pool and then the victim pool and some of the statements of like some of the first victims to come out. It's obviously, like, there was ethnic targeting and a lot of, I think, supremacist motivations. And I definitely think with the entire, like, the Epstein thing, it goes into so many different things that I've been looking into.

Speaker 8Like, obviously, like, the Israeli Jewish supremacy thing also goes into the transhumanist movement, the surveillance movement. And a lot of this kind of human trafficking stuff. It's terrifying. But like, I think it's it is like, if you're in a boss battle, it is the big red spot that keeps flashing. It's the weak spot.

Speaker 8And I think there's so many of these and Epstein was just one of these kind of rings. There's been a bunch of others. I think some of them haven't also like just been in the like, there's the finders call. There's also the Franklin scandal. I recommend looking into all that and you'll find out there's these webs of like mafia kind of shit.

Speaker 8But I do think like it's always interesting to me like Dan Balzerian like he is like 12% like ethnically Jewish and I just found it so funny when people tried to use that against him and be like invalidating him for all that. And it is like he is one of the people who's actually trying to put some stuff online and really

Speaker 8There are people on the computer who really seethe all day when anyone tries to really go out and materialize some action. And I respect people who are bringing awareness and trying to really get the noticing up because that's critical. But I do think people need to go out and protest or at least bring it to some point.

Speaker 8I know I absolutely... Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

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Speaker 8He was a Zionist. Months before his death, I saw him defend the genocide in Gaza. I know he was also pro-life, anti-abortion. I think he knew that if he spoke out, they were going to kill him. There was this big momentum building right before the anniversary of 9-11. You had Tucker Carlson coming out, speaking about 9-11 more openly.

Speaker 8You had other people coming out, speaking more openly. And we have to remember Howard Lutnick is in the administration too. And I think he was, Trump, just like all presidents, we're all surrounded by handlers. And I think Charlie, if he had come out and said, fuck Israel and everything like that, and really been offensive, he would have lost his, he'd probably kicked out of TPUSA, but I think he would have lived.

Speaker 8I think they killed him because they could use that death as a checker piece. But, you know, I don't know. But thank you, guys. I've been ranting.

Ian MalcolmNo, you were not ranting at all. I mean, that was fantastically stated. And for what it's worth, you know, I'm glad you actually mentioned that because I had forgotten, I suppose, the timing of... Because it's so strange. I remembered, you know, it's September 10th. And yet... The day that it happened, and it's so weird to think about because at the time I was still doing spaces with Suleiman a lot.

Ian MalcolmAnd I remember being in that room and one of the things that I was critiquing in the aftermath was how weird it was that Nick Fuentes was very opposed to anybody pointing fingers at Israel. And I bring this up, you know, obviously we've connected all these dots that certainly make it very reasonable to suggest that they had something to do with it.

Ian MalcolmBut one of the big things that stood out was the fact that There it was, like you just perfectly articulated, leading up to a September 11th where for the first time you had big voices like perhaps Tucker Carlson that would have really spoke a lot about the Israeli involvement in 9-11. And a long time ago, I remember Matt something, I can't remember his name, a Jewish individual on Twitter, and he had this thesis that he shared with me that

Ian MalcolmForti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

Ian MalcolmAnd all of that went completely by the wayside. It was like another year that was going to inevitably go by where the masses weren't going to connect those dots, in addition to all the other things, obviously, that were horrors about Charlie Crick's death. And so thank you so much, Hubbard, for kind of shocking that. I hadn't thought about that aspect of it in quite a long time, but you're exactly right.

Ian MalcolmThe timing of it is irrefutable. It's really uncomfortable, in fact. And the thought that Perhaps the very people behind 9-11 would use the assassination of yet another young American, a very prominent one at that, as a way to distract from their former crimes is perhaps the most Jewish comment of the space. Very well stated there, Hubbard.

Ian MalcolmReally appreciate that. Let's go to Mr. Birdman.

Speaker 9Cheers. Thanks, brother, man. How you doing, baby doll? How you doing? You so sexy.

@joann_marieThank you, you're so sexy too, Birdman. What's up?

Speaker 10I wasn't talking to you, but anyways, let's move on. Anyways, listen, China, okay? I'm all about... Do you mind if... Of course she's sexy, I'm just playing, I'm just playing.

@joann_marieOkay, so why did you come up, Birdman? Are you drunk again?

Speaker 10Listen, don't worry about it, okay? Don't worry about it, all right? This is fine. Don't worry about it.

@uncutspeechThat's... Don't worry about it. Oh, no.

Speaker 10I'm not... Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

Ian MalcolmBirdman, Birdman, I gotta ask, what is your favorite candy bar?

Speaker 10Yeah, yeah, we're a Mars Bar family right here, you know?

Ian MalcolmThe Mars Bar? Did I hear that right?

Speaker 10Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we're a Snickers-Mars Bar family.

Speaker 11Yeah.

Speaker 10You know, that's right. Yeah, that's right.

@yoteofstreetOK, so why did you come up?

Speaker 10I'm trying to fucking listen. Pipe down, woman. Amanda's speaking.

@joann_marieSo you're not going to say why did you come up?

Speaker 10I'm trying to.

@joann_marieOK, go for it.

Speaker 10I'm telling you, OK, listen, it's going to get real here. It's going to get really real. You all better be buying extra freezers and filling it full of meat, OK? The amount of fertilizer these companies are going to be acquiring t-minus one year from now is going to be really real. The Strait of Hormuz is in dire straits.

Speaker 10It's near Iran.

Speaker 10Yes, they've taken over. Yeah, I mean, they've basically proven that they can run shit over there. Yeah, they took it over. Yes, they can run it with, like, a bunch of speed bumps.

@uncutspeechI thought it was theirs, though. Wasn't it?

Speaker 10Well, I mean, it was sort of an illusion that everybody else was... And it's fine. Don't worry about it. Oh my god, you're so drunk.

@joann_marieThank you so much for coming up, Birdman.

Speaker 10Birdman, what is your favorite Christmas movie of all time?

Ian MalcolmTry to patronize me, young man.

Speaker 10No, I'm not asking you a serious question. Just say the Grinch, Birdman. It's fine if you don't like Christmas.

Ian MalcolmAlright, no, no, Birdman, we'll try a different one. Birdman, what is your favorite color?

Speaker 10You are just a simple, sweet, innocent boy-o. You don't have a favorite color? I am Genghis Khan in these streets. You cannot name a favorite color. Okay, I have many wives, I have many sons.

@nietzsche258918You can't follow the line of discussion. We're gonna have to let you go. So what's your favorite color?

Speaker 10You don't understand the complexity of what I'm doing in these streets. Listen, you can sit here and look at the world through black and white lenses. I'm trying to teach you. I'm trying to take you under my wing.

Ian MalcolmIt doesn't have to be black and white lenses. I tried to give you your favorite color.

@nietzsche258918I'm trying to take you under my wing and show you why

@nietzsche258918That was funny. Okay, so now an easy question. What's 2 plus 2? I mean, we're trying to dumb this down for you.

@joann_marieYou don't understand the complexity, David.

@nietzsche258918What's 2 plus 2? Ian. You can't do 2? This is David. What's 2 plus 2? I'm a bird. What's 2 plus 2? Close. How dare you try to limit me?

@uncutspeechClose can do 2 plus 2, for sure.

@nietzsche258918You cannot do... Right, that's true. How dare you, sir? Okay. We did our best. I think we should move on. If you can't answer that one, then it's time for you to go to listeners.

@joann_marieOkay, well, thank you so much for coming up, Birdman. I'm like super enlightened by all the complexities and colors and stuff. All right. Truemaga. Wait, guys, please repost this space and follow Ian and Sharon and Caulin and David and Forti. Everybody in the panel are just absolute superstars, and thank you so much for being here.

@nietzsche258918And next time, the rest of us need to drink to make him interesting.

@joann_marieI know. Okay, Truemaga, welcome.

Ian MalcolmBut, David, I don't know if there's enough alcohol to do that.

@here4younowHey, there. Thank you. Thank you, Ian. Thank you, Joanne. I just want to ask David a couple of things. You guys are just, I mean, Thomas was killing it, covered everything I was going to say, I think. But did the Founding Fathers think we were going to be this divided? I mean, and the question is, like, did the Internet help that?

@here4younowI mean, like in the newspaper days, we wouldn't all be calling out all this stuff that I just found out about the 401k that blew my mind with everything else I kind of knew. I mean, we're so divided in so many different ways. And that's exactly what the evil elite love, right? Whether the group you want to call it, but they want us divided.

@here4younowAnd my main question after this is, let's take it all the way. Everybody, well, first you guys can answer that and then I'll go to the next one.

@nietzsche258918Well, I mean, unfortunately, I mean, there's a dialectical quality to this because the power to control people George Orwell depicted a world where a screen was watching you and controlling your every move. Who would have thought that quite the reverse is true, where people are watching it? So media became a new medium of control, and we were very, very innocent and naive in terms of how these people, Jewish supremacists, would leverage this.

@nietzsche258918Couldn't have done it without the financial control. From about, I would say, the 1300s, the very early Renaissance to the end of the 19th century, the explosion in Western civilization of thought was just absolutely unparalleled in human history for the entire world. And during that whole time, during the whole time during the Reformation and the Renaissance, the Enlightenment,

@nietzsche258918With all of the great mathematics and the great physics and the great music and the great science, with all of that, what were these people doing? They were coin clipping. They were trying to rub two coins together and make a baby, trying to control the financial industry. And of course, with that control, they have basically been able to shapeshift everything else.

@nietzsche258918And so did our forefathers, did they see this coming? I don't think so. I mean, I do think that they warned us. I think some of them, James Madison, for instance, I think a lot of them, yeah, James Madison, but John Quincy Adams is the guy I was thinking about. But now it's just very, very different. I don't think you could have predicted these mechanisms of control.

@nietzsche258918I don't know if that answers your question, but it just really is now the things that were supposed to free us are being used to enslave us. And so I don't think that, I don't think that AI is intrinsically bad. I don't think that robots are intrinsically bad. I don't think that media are intrinsically bad, except for the people that deign to use them to rule us.

@nietzsche258918So that answers your question.

@here4younowI mean, you just made me think of my first pager. I know that's like pretty old, but I hated that thing. When they page me, I have to answer, you know, so that sucked. And they're using it to control us.

@nietzsche258918Just think about someone who's 20. Someone who's 20 years old and they're sort of very politically aware and they're angry and whatever. But someone 20 before the cell phone era wouldn't have been like that. They would have been like, well, what do I do? Well, I might smoke pot occasionally and listen to rock and roll.

@nietzsche258918They're just not connected in the way. So the ability to connect people and control their thought from, let's say, the age of 15 on, You know, and I'm not even counting the indoctrination that comes before that. You know, that's a real big deal. And of course, it means that we have to figure out a way to emancipate ourselves because this is a new power.

@nietzsche258918These are new strings. These are new tendrils. And of course, we have to free ourselves from that.

@here4younowYeah, and then the other thing I just want to go into a little bit, you know, if I said like, I'm just like kidding, but it's Trump's not the problem. Israel is not doing anything wrong. Like if I said that and you say, what the hell are you talking about? I could like prove what I'm saying a little bit by saying, well, I mean, they're just playing a game.

@here4younowIf you were Israel and you could give somebody $350 million so they would protect your interests, in your mind, you're not doing anything wrong. You're protecting your country. Trump taking that money, right? I mean, like he says, I went bankrupt 11 times. I used the system. If you want the system to change, Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies With

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@nietzsche258918Since there were only 400 million people alive and they killed 40 million people, the Mongols. But the answer is, no, the people voted naively for the things that Trump ran on, which is essentially Thomas Massie, right? So don't forget that is a, maybe it's a Pyrrhic victory, but it's a victory of a sort. And the idea that Americans don't want war, they don't want to be ruled by these people, which is why they're walking away from Israel.

@nietzsche258918But I would, I would take exception to your idea, is Trump doing something wrong? Yes. Is Israel doing something wrong? Yes. Because right and wrong is not up to the plebiscite. Right and wrong, you know, moral laws, if you want to put it that way, are flat. It is wrong to kill children. It is wrong to steal. It is wrong to lie, cheat, and steal, and kill, and rape.

@nietzsche258918And of course, this is the ability with which we're confronted. And yes, these people are on the wrong side of history. They're morally wrong, and anybody that indulges them is morally wrong along with them, and that includes Donald J. Trump. He's clearly sold his soul. You can see it. He's not the same person, and he'll never come back from this.

@here4younowOkay, awesome. And then the final thing is, like I do with the Flat Earth guys. Okay, so now we've proved it's flat or we've proved it's a wall, whatever. One of them's proved. Now what do we do? So now let's take it to this. Everybody in the United States believes what you're saying, and we all protest, and they all step down, every single one of them.

@here4younowSenate, Congress, Trump, everybody. What is the next step? Isn't that a dangerous point? Like, other countries know we don't have a freaking leader right now. I mean, do we even have a solution to that?

@nietzsche258918I don't get it. How would we not have a leader? If the evil people go, you're saying that we crawled out of the primordial ooze. All the way up to the moment that we're in. And if we don't have psychopaths pointing a gun at the head of every man, woman, and child for every second of their life saying, obey us, obey us, obey us, and pay us, or we're going to put you in a cage or murder you, that somehow we're not going to survive.

@nietzsche258918I don't get that. We'll be just fine. I've always taken umbrage to this idea that we have a leader of the free world. Leader? What giant... What Tolkien-esque quest are we going on where we need a leader of the free world? If you're free, you don't need that, right? You just need everybody to stick by the principles of liberty, the principles of goodness, the principles of moral rectitude.

@nietzsche258918I'm sorry, but we'll be just fine without these people. This is why I love the last line of The Matrix. We're going to show these people a world without you. We don't need these people at all. If we throw them off, and we will, if we slough them off like a bad cold, we'll be so much the better for it. But Israel won't, right?

@nietzsche258918I mean, that's their problem. That's up to them. I'm not saying that vampires can't survive, but they'll just have to do it without our blood.

@thomas984634784It's 77 years, it's time for them to stand on their own in my opinion. Complete redefinition of the relationship between the United States and Israel. That needs to happen, like bare minimum, I think.

@nietzsche258918Yeah, and I hope the best for them, right? Because if there is a portion, you know, if our brothers and sisters that are Jewish that have remained silent, that have native capacities and abilities, and if they are the cream that's going to rise to the top when the worst of them don't, then maybe we'll see the better angels of their nature.

@nietzsche258918I'm not... I believe in the divine spark within everyone. All I say is stop ruling us, stop raping, stop murdering. Their main export right now is the mass extermination of humans and reducing them to servitude in the process. So that is slavery. We need to stop that from happening and the rest is up to them. I wish them well.

Ian MalcolmI'll never forget when we talked to Yitz about this very dynamic. Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies

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Ian MalcolmBut the thing that it can't do is just live on its own. And so the most powerful thing that is the big, strong, tough vampire, at least in its own eyes, all we're doing is saying, just go away. And it's saying to us, just like it would, well, we need to be here. We need to have you. If we can't, then we're not going to do so well, but we're not going to say that because we're too arrogant to admit it.

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Ian MalcolmThat's a whole different discourse.

@nietzsche258918Yes, it's a paradox when the parasite proclaims its superiority to the host, which can obviously live without it. And you cannot say the reverse is true. I was on a space today where you had, there was a real, this is after diligence space. Shortly, I just jumped in because someone asked me to, and some really sinister Jewish supremacist was just talking about how they're lording it over us and how we need them.

@nietzsche258918And I said, wait, wait, excuse me. How do we need you? So help me out here. Tomorrow, you're all gone and we're still here. Tell me how our life is going to get worse. And of course, all of a sudden, the obfuscation machine went on full tilt. The monkey dance started happening and I kept coming back. No, wait, no, wait, no, no.

@nietzsche258918You said this. So I'd like to know how our life gets worse when the parasites go away. Tell me tomorrow and the next day and the next week and the next month how we're all going to be... Golly, you know, things are so much worse now that the people that are trying to convince our daughters to be whores and our sons to be daughters, the people that...

@thomas984634784It's so funny because they'll also say a bunch of like stolen cultural, like falafel or cherry tomatoes. It's so hilarious. These are the things that the Jewish community give you.

@nietzsche258918You're like, yeah, that's good. And then, of course, I'll pick, I'm like, Ian, you've heard me do this. I'll say, okay, tell you what, I'm going to pick a subject, okay? Music. So I've got, oh, I said this today. I said I've got... Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

@nietzsche258918What do you got for me?

@nietzsche258918What is it? What value are you bringing to the company? Well, you know, you know, if you wouldn't have pornography, you know, and we're handing out everybody, lending money, and okay, all right, jotting this down. Come on, something, please. We're trying to justify, you know, we're McKinsey, all right? We're trying to justify you keeping your job in the civilization, and you're just giving me nothing.

@nietzsche258918In fact, you're arguing against yourself, so maybe you should stop.

@joann_marieBoth Mitch and Yates replied nuclear weapons.

Ian MalcolmOh, thank you. Yeah, vaccines, nuclear weapons, pornography. It's like everything degenerate.

Speaker 1Everything that destroys absolutely everything. There's nothing that creates.

Ian MalcolmYou wouldn't have the Sackler family and Purdue Pharma. You wouldn't have all these atrocious things. God, we bring so many blessings to your life. You wouldn't have the abortion pill and all these other... Wonderful inventions. Speaking of which, David, I always found it interesting because I went down a path looking into at one point because somebody said it was just, oh, it was the ultimate irony.

Ian MalcolmSomebody said it was an individual who's from the FBA community. They said you wouldn't have music without Africans. And I thought to myself, wait a second here. And so I just, I went through and I looked up with Grok. I just said, hey, Grok, how many instruments I'm going to guess around 100%.

Ian MalcolmYou're around 100%. That is exactly correct. Now, what percent of those instruments, David, do you think were the creation of Jewish individuals?

@nietzsche258918If no one's beating on a log, I'm saying none.

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Ian MalcolmAnd so we just get this very strange amalgamation of just cultural appropriation of the strangest kind.

@nietzsche258918And then when it just comes down to money, you know, as though, I mean, think about it. Money is just a medium of exchange, right? Exchange of what? If everyone tomorrow stopped producing wealth, stopped producing that which sustains our life, prolongs our life and makes it more livable, which is what wealth really is, then money would have no value.

@nietzsche258918So the real value of civilization is what you produce. You know, it reminds me of the joke about the two Jews walking in front of a Christian church, and it said, you know, conversions, $100 for each conversion. And one of the Jews walks in, and he basically gets his $100, converts to Christianity, and he comes out, and his fellow Jew says, did you convert?

@nietzsche258918He said, yeah. He said, did you get the $100? And he says, is that all you people ever think about? I love that joke because it's basically like, only money? Like, that's it? Just shekels? Because what you're saying is you're saying that you're a parasite. Look, the people who accomplish the greatest, you know... Yeah, is the tip jar Jewish?

@thomas984634784Is that a Jewish invention?

@nietzsche258918Is the tip jar Jewish? I haven't heard that one. But the people who, like, you know, there's a, you know, because... People from the Middle East that aren't Jewish never accomplish anything. For instance, Steve Jobs is Syrian, you know. So Steve Jobs only thought about making great things. You know, he just thought, you know, okay, this product and we should have this.

@nietzsche258918In fact, he thought about it like his own opinion was really important to him. Like, we should have this. We should have this. For whatever criticisms you want of Steve Jobs, I love that about Steve Jobs. And so he was thinking about how to make life better for humans. He said famously, you know, you should look at the world around you and think it doesn't have to be like this.

@nietzsche258918But the person who's only thinking about money is just thinking about exploiting everybody around them. If you think that your modus operandi is irrevocably intertwined with exploiting everybody around you, rather than helping them, bringing good things to life, Then your psychology is so different. It really is an anti-Western civilization thing.

@nietzsche258918And of course, I don't think these people ever considered themselves as really part of Western civilization, but rather an exogenous force whose job is to exploit that which defines Western civilization. And we just want freedom from it.

Ian MalcolmThat's so beautifully said, as always, David. And I just want to read this off because, again, It sounds pretty wild to say, hey, you know, you go to a grand production, you're looking at all these classical instruments, right? One of them had to come from this brilliant group of people. I mean, the Jews say they create all these things.

Ian MalcolmThe direct response from Grok, none of the foundational or ancillary instrumentations used in modern orchestral instruments were created by Jews. None, not one of them. It's just wild. I thought they were foundational to all these things, right? They run the entire music industry. They had to be responsible for something.

Ian MalcolmNo, none of it. It was all there. What about the Jews harp?

@nietzsche258918What about the Jews harp? That little thing that goes with twang, twang, you know, remember that thing?

@thomas984634784It is anti-Semitic that, you know, you mentioned Beethoven, Mozart. You didn't mention, like, Mendelssohn. Right, right.

@nietzsche258918But you know I've gone down the line you know philosophy literature like what I remember one of them when I finally said uh I got was I was doing the you know Tolstoy Dostoevsky all these people they were like Kafka I'm like that's it that's it you're saying that you're vastly superior to us and that's what you've got I gave you Dostoevsky and Shakespeare and you gave me Kafka okay all right

Ian MalcolmI mean, they do got Oppenheimer and therefore, you know, great things were brought to many people. I saw a movie once and weird, it focused on them. Isn't that so strange?

@nietzsche258918You know, Oppenhower, when he was young, did you hear the story? It's not apocryphal because he admits to it. He put, he gave his, he literally gave his teacher a poison apple. I mean, just like I was a kid, I wasn't a well-behaved kid. You were a kid. I would have never, like, I might have put a tack in my teacher's chair.

@nietzsche258918Never did it, but I could imagine doing that. But, like, literally trying to murder your teacher. And the idea that this person, you know, is normal in the eyes of their own people. That is just, I'm sorry, but that is psychopathy. That is just absolutely weird to think that Oppenheimer, that this is not apocryphal. That Oppenheimer actually did this.

@thomas984634784I know, that sounds like a Greek philosopher era scandal, right?

@thomas984634784As a rhetorical kind of moral question.

@nietzsche258918Wouldn't the Wicked Witch do that to Snow White, I think?

Ian MalcolmI was going to say, it sounds like one of the Grimm's Fairy Tales or something. It's just so black and white, good and evil. It's pretty wild. But that being said, I know Forti had his hands up. Let's check in with him, and then we'll go over to David and Caulin and Joanne to see if they've got any final thoughts here as we close out the space.

@nance726Yeah, thanks, Ian, Joanne, Sharon, everybody. Good to see everyone. Sorry, I fell asleep a little bit earlier. But I just wanted to kind of bring it back. I know you guys have been all over the place. It's been a great conversation. But I wanted to kind of bring it back a little bit to the title. And when we talk about these things and we, I feel like oftentimes, I think, Ian, I think we've had this conversation a little bit before that we always focus on Orwell when we talk about in 1984, when we talk about, you know, the downside of what we might be approaching.

@nance726And I think too often what gets overlooked is Brave New World. And I think that what we are seeing in, we are seeing obviously what the technocracy and we are seeing with, you know, the big brother aspects, the flock cameras and Palantir and everything that certainly does, you know, ring of 1984. But I think that we oftentimes it gets overlooked is the stuff that came from, you know, from Brave New World and Huxley for, you know, all the things that he was.

@nance726I think he did make some good predictions and might have even had some tie-ins with why those might be good predictions. But as far as his thing with the somas and with his, I can't remember the exact quote, but basically that we would ask for our chains, right? People would be happy to have the things. They would even so much as demand them.

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@nietzsche258918Are people just, have they deprived people of their feeling of being in prison? Have they started to like their prison walls? And then of course, and this is why I think that Orwell is more prescient, the whole idea of the language game, controlling the language, flushing things down the memory hole, having a ministry of truth.

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@nietzsche258918My answer to this is this. I think that history is unfolding more Orwellian style than Huxleyian. I think that Christopher Hitchens was right about this. No one likes to be told what to do. There's just something in the soul of humans where they just rebel. They don't make good slaves. They don't like being slaves. I'm not saying they're not sheep, but none of us are going to argue that.

@nietzsche258918But I think the Orwellian vision still holds because they're still having to play those language games. They're still having to threaten us. They're still having to coerce us. I just feel like the rebellion and the spirit of humans that just sort of endemic to being a human, I think that's more reflected in Winston Smith, you know, where he's just sort of going along, but in the pit of his stomach, he kind of hates this, and he recognizes the doublespeak, irrespective of his incapacity.

@nietzsche258918And the last thing I'll say there is, remember the moment where they were saying, two plus two, it's not enough that you say that it's five, but that you believe it. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the trans issue. It's not enough that you say that that man is a woman, but that you believe it. And that's a pretty hard, like deep in the soul of humans, I think eventually that we rise above that.

@nietzsche258918I think in the long stretch of time, the truth wins out. So I don't think that ultimately it's going to be Huxley and where we're just like, hey, this is great. You know, now that we're in prison, you know, I don't think it's going to end up that way.

@nance726Yeah, and I agree with you there, David. I think there's a combination of them because I think that they need to have, you know, there are certain people, like you said, the sheeple, but even just like the, you know, the dumbing down of everything. Forgotten History & Orwellian Technocracies With www.JoseAlNino.com

Ian MalcolmBut David, isn't and maybe this is a nice way to go to you for some kind of closing thoughts on this, because it is within the Orwellian world that we find ourselves. And if you take the Huxley side, it's all chemicals and drugging people into essentially appreciation for those slaves or for those change as chains, as the prior speaker was saying.

Ian MalcolmAnd I bring it up because curiously, if you mix those two things together, it's kind of what we live in. Forgotten History & Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Forgotten History & Allegedly, Thomas

Ian MalcolmTo be accepting of and satisfied by the nonsense to basically be able to cope in the event that you are, let's say, in any way disappointed by it. And then the labeling of anybody that rejects it, whether it's by aspiring for Christianity or noting this common problem that we've noticed and speaking about it, right? You're basically slurred and labeled all sorts of things.

Ian MalcolmI mean, in reality, you can't even exist in this timeline right now as a overt Christian. Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

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Ian MalcolmAs independent as you can in the sense that you're looking out for yourself and your own betterment. So I'm curious for your thoughts on kind of how we're going against this Orwellian technocracy right now and kind of that individual who might not have heard these ideas in the past, but might be drawn to them.

@nietzsche258918I think freedom is our destiny as a species. And I do believe that whoever carries the banner of freedom and emancipation is going to inspire people Speakers, Sharon, DavidNietzsche2310, Ronnie B., Caulin, Forti__Allegedly, Thomas, Truemaga

@nietzsche258918To an otherwise wandering, aimless group of people, I think that they're going to follow that person. I think history bears that out. It's so inspiring, for instance, to say, well, I'm William Wallace and I'm going to defeat the greatest power on earth on this bridge because we want to be free. They're fighting for freedom.

@nietzsche258918They're fighting for something rather than just a few shekels or for another, you know, satiation, temporary satiation of a desire. I really think that that is the reason why we'll win. Nobody wants to be told what to do. People want to be free. They don't want to be lied to. Ultimately, the whole function of the mind, you know, nature is 100% consistent, which is why Francis Bacon said, nature to be commanded must be obeyed.

@nietzsche258918And the liars, of course, aren't consistent with the facts of nature. They don't conform to it. It's necessary for them to deceive you. It's uninspiring. Forgotten History & Orwellian Techniques

@nietzsche258918I hate to say this, but like a battered wife syndrome, like a whole civilization that's suffering from that. And then finally someone comes along and you know how much better your life can be once you just get up and walk out on your hind legs out into history and be the master of your own destiny instead of the helpless plaything of these miserable people.

@nietzsche258918No, I think that absolutely we're going to win because I just think that freedom and the people that champion it are so much more inspiring than those who wish to derail us.

Ian MalcolmThat's so beautifully stated there, David. And I couldn't agree with you more. And it's why I think that we're just going to continue resonating more and more and more with so many, right? And like I said, those that look around, they're disenfranchised with the present. They will obviously relate to this message because a lot of the things that are bringing them down, we are essentially curative towards.

Ian MalcolmAnd those that are even satisfied with the current system, when they are able to recognize what can be built, like you're saying, In this better tomorrow, well then anybody and everybody except those that want to essentially bring us down. Transcription by CastingWords

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Ian MalcolmAnd as we're doing it, we can look along the way and we can say, well, we're still not there yet. It's still so far. And we look back behind us and we think, well, we made some progress, but have we made enough? And the truth of the matter is we made some. We made more. We've gone farther than we were yesterday, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd if nothing else, at least we have the star. We have the ideal and we're moving towards something. We're not sitting where we were. We're not stewing with our frustrations. We're not looking around saying all hope is lost. Instead, we're trying and we're succeeding. And we know that we're succeeding because our opposition, despite having all the power, are clearly very concerned about what we're doing.

Ian MalcolmAnd if they weren't, then we wouldn't be suppressed. They wouldn't be running the propaganda campaigns. They wouldn't literally be paying their 7,000 shekels to the people that are out there propagandizing the masses, right? They also, oh, by the way, they wouldn't even, not only would they not pay for the propaganda, they wouldn't even attempt it because if they knew that all hope was lost, they would not, they would just sit back and they would gloat.

Ian MalcolmLet's be real. That's how they've basically behaved on basically every front. And instead they are desperately trying to maintain the boomers. They're trying to suppress and censor those of the younger audiences. I think they're building their false heroes and champions. I really do. There's certain individuals I'm not going to mention, but

Ian MalcolmThey keep doing things that look more and more peculiar. It looks like a lot of those individuals that are out there, they're talking about the JQ, but they're also creating all this animus amongst, let's say, men and women. They're pushing the gender divide. They're pushing the religion divide. They're pushing whatever.

Ian MalcolmThey're clearly creating subversion amidst what should be a very unified message. And isn't it curious that as Dan Bilzerian announced his campaign, there were basically battle lines being drawn. Certain people getting on one side, others on the other. And look, I'm not gonna ignore the fact that Dan Bilzerian took a pretty big uppercut seemingly out of the blue against Nick Fuentes.

Ian MalcolmThat was weird, I'm gonna call it out, right? But all the fighting that followed, none of that is of benefit, right? We should all be unified against this problem. And so we are going to see very subversive elements that are gonna try and fissure and fracture what it is that we're doing. So again, we should never ever feel like we're not getting somewhere because we're not immediately there tomorrow.

Ian MalcolmWe're making progress. This doesn't mean that we should just sit back and accept, well, nothing's ever gonna change. It is changing in real time. We are making a monumental difference, right? And if we think of the world a year or two or three ago, I see that we got Colin up here and maybe actually Colin, I'll defer. I was gonna give it to Joanne for kind of the closing prayer, but Colin, I'd be curious for your thoughts.

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@uncutspeechIn these open panel sort of platforms, oftentimes politics is one of the number one categories. And for the entire first couple of years, there wasn't like this whole Jew thing was kind of a very much like either at most you got treated as like an annoyance. You know, you had mentioned diligence spaces earlier. I remember we would come up and, you know, especially you, you know, back in the early, early days and, you know, it would be like, people would be like, oh, well, here's Ian again, gonna give you the spiel about, you know, all of these numbers that we can't really refute and he's gonna talk about Jews a little and then we're just gonna try to move on as quickly as possible after that.

@uncutspeechYou know, and at first, they wouldn't even really let you do that. You know, there was... There was always like people want to cut in and all of this stuff. The point was kind of hard to get. But eventually, after persistence and evidence mounted up, then we kind of get to talk a little bit more. And then as we talked a little bit more, our points got to be heard even lighter and people started to recognize after more evidence started mounting.

@uncutspeechUnfortunately, it took a lot of really negative things like October 7th and then the first Iran conflict, the Six-Day War, and then you had what we've got going on on top of a bunch of all of the other stuff. But those things really helped propel this into, you know, the whole Israel thing helped propel this into a sort of, I mean, I don't know if it was smart of us to kind of

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Ian MalcolmNo, I absolutely do. And it's curious because, well, first and foremost, I want to thank you because I think that's exactly correct, the way that you just laid that out. And it is. The fact that we were discussing these things and then it just so happened, right, that we got not only all the insanity of the Biden administration, where frankly, a lot of the things that we were suggesting, and it is, Colin, it's crazy to think about because we were basically putting the puzzle together of Epstein

Ian MalcolmIn real time as it was happening in the background behind the curtain. And then we got the Epstein files and it was like, hey guys, basically everything we predicted was happening. Not only the people involved, but oh, by the way, here's literally emails from Jeffrey Epstein talking about the Goy, which we were considered crazy for suggesting was even a part of this equation at all, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd so we get the Epstein files. I think obviously we get all the insanity with the war with Iran. We get all of the things with Charlie Kirk. We get thing after thing after thing. And in some ways, Colin, I was thinking about this as you were saying it. And obviously those played into our narrative and they've made it irrefutable.

Ian MalcolmThe thing that I find crazy is the recognition that you probably could have rewound the clock five to 10 years with us doing the exact same things. And as wild as it sounds, We would have been probably just as accurate and with just as many things to focus on because it's always been the same issue. It's just that those three were just this, I don't want to call it wonderful, but it was a very telling stew.

Ian MalcolmIt has made this just very uncomfortable for everybody. And we were doing so not only as that was happening, but also as even under Trump with his promised revitalization of the economy, everything continues to get worse. Trump doesn't deliver on any of the promises and the things like, oh, I don't know, no new wars, right?

Ian MalcolmThe things that he has gone against are the very things that we would have suggested because of the very problem that we've illustrated, right? And so it really is, it's every single time and we've just been saying it and every single time, every single time actually plays out and that's, I suppose, the oddity of it. With that being said,

Ian MalcolmSo I want to give a quick little shout out for not only our prior guest speaker, Jose was absolutely wonderful. I want everybody, if they can, not only giving him a follow, some support, check him out on Substack. Again, he writes for the very publication that Kevin McDonald puts together. That is the author of Culture of Critique, a very brilliant man.

Ian MalcolmI hope to actually see if we can't get a future space with both Jose and with Kevin. I would find that very, very interesting to be able to speak with him about that work, right? And this is one of the crazy things about this is to think that that's probably not even a remotely unreasonable thing for us to suggest. We're really building these conversations as a community.

Ian MalcolmAnd I love the fact that we're able to do this in real time live with all of you. To be able to come up and have these big conversations with anybody and everybody that we can get into these rooms, whether it's E. Michael Jones or Dan Bilzerian or all the other folks, right? We are really tapping into something and building something on a unified front with people like Allegedly Dank who took this.

Ian MalcolmAnd I know I keep repeating myself, but I want to thank him again for putting this out onto Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Rumble, even the IanMalcolm84 website. And I find this all so funny in some ways. Somebody sent me a picture. David, you'll love this. Somebody sent me a picture. They are having a shirt created. They went to one of the custom t-shirt companies and it says right across the front, end Jewish supremacy.

Ian MalcolmThis is incredible. It's happening. David, your idea. In mainstream newspapers. And it's going to be across the chest of a person walking around in the country. I thought you would love it.

@nietzsche258918At Baskin-Robbins having ice cream. Yeah. You know, me, my t-shirt, my ice cream.

Ian MalcolmIt's all happening. And I just say, because these ideas, again, we can get very downtrodden and think that we're not seeing enough progress fast enough. And the idea of fast enough, we got to go as Jeff Goldblum said, Ian Malcolm must go faster. Transcription by CastingWords

Ian MalcolmIn the early American colonies, they're going to be looking at their play with the founding fathers. I want to be explicit. This is not a thesis that I necessarily give a lot of credence to, but I will always be an open ear. And I try to create an open platform for anybody to come and share their, their takes. And so we're going to be having this one gets spicy.

Ian MalcolmColin, it's funny because I actually, I was very specific and, and I say this because a couple of things. Number one, I've already debated the people that are going to be discussing this idea on this platform. If you want to go back, they can listen to it. It was recorded on Veritas's room. I think it's got the NN nationalist something handle.

Ian MalcolmI'm sure they'll share it in the space tomorrow. So we already had a back and forth on it. And a lot of the people that ironically they're going to reference, like for example, John Adams to the comments made by David earlier. Well, John Quincy, Adam, said some really nasty things to say about the Jews. So it's very strange to suggest that this group of people were essentially running the show when the people that were actually clearly running the show clearly disliked them, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd this idea that if it was all built for Jewish supremacy, well, then why go through a 250-year path to get there?

Ian MalcolmThey controlled it from the get-go. Why wouldn't you just set it up at the offset where you get to be the boss? That's obviously what anybody would do, right? But again, I've debated this with them. I don't want to necessarily do it. Rather, I'm gonna just hold slash open. I'm gonna open the platform for them to be able to share their ideas.

Ian MalcolmSo we're gonna have that conversation. Again, I think it's a little bit of a demoralizing take. And I say that because I do think that America can certainly be saved. It can be fixed. It can be restored. So can Western Europe. I think it's far easier to suggest that you do that within the confines of fixing the nations as are rather than saying we need a complete revolution and rebuilding of everything.

Ian MalcolmThat seems like a much longer shot and I try to be a pragmatic person. But nonetheless, they are welcome to share their take. We will, as always, try to be free speech advocates and absolutists, so we will have that being shared. To follow that, the following day, we are going to have a space on essentially moralizing, not demoralizing, but moralizing the white community in the West.

Ian MalcolmThat's going to be with Austin Lee. It's going to be laser focused on how do we reinvigorate a group of people that have been demoralized en masse for literally

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Ian MalcolmWe have that North Star. We are moving towards it. And lots of love for everybody, including our special guest, Mr. Jose Al Nino. We'll see you all in the next space. I'll see you in Mr. Truth Teller's room. Lots of love to everybody. God bless. Good night.

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