Breaking The X Matrix

1:14Speaker 1I know you're out there. I can feel you now. I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us. You're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone, and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you.↗

1:43Speaker 1A world without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. A world where anything is possible.↗

1:54Speaker 1Where we go from there?↗

3:23Ian MalcolmAlright Joann. So we gotta see, can Joann name that, piece of cinema and that tune or that artist? Let's see what we can do here.↗

3:38@joann_marieJoann, thank you so much for hosting. Thank you so much for co-hosting and Shadow of Ezra. Thank you so much for co-hosting and everybody. Thank you so much for being here. Guys, please repost this space, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it. And Ian, I have no idea. Like, I was thinking that it's maybe The Matrix, but I, I, I don't remember that part from The Matrix. It's like from The Matrix 2. Is that from the first↗

4:04@shadowofezraone? That's the ending of part one. Rage against the machine, wake up.↗

4:09@joann_marieRage against the machine, I'm the worst at this. Good job, Shadow.↗

4:14Ian MalcolmNo, that's, that's what makes it fun, and it, it is in fact, well done there, Shadow. Rage Against the Machine, and, and the ending of the, the film, which, here's a curious piece of, a fun fact. If I'm not mistaken, and I, I may be wrong, I'll go back and verify and validate this. if I'm not mistaken, one of, if not the very first spaces I ever hosted on X, that was a long, long, long time ago and featured, the official nineteen eighty four, people like Dom Documents and Converse and so many others, that have come before us, some of which are no longer here, in the case of, of Dom Documents, but that- Made very, very lasting impacts, on this movement, bringing truth to all of you, and I bring that space up, because it actually was, was opened with that very piece of cinema. I thought at the time it was really clever of me. So it's very strange to come full circle and, and to use that in this capacity for this conversation. Now, what's gonna be neat is, this is gonna be essentially a, a part two of, a part Yeah, as, they said in that Charlie Sheen comedy movie that, some might recall. So as part of this, we will be doing a, a follow-up on our prior conversation where we went over essentially some of the manipulations and the trapdoors that exist within X that are clearly subverting the ability for individuals to get their messages out, to try and grow their account, to try and reach new audiences, right? There's all sorts of things that they're doing to basically lock us into what are really digital silos or echo chambers, right? And while there are some that allow more porous walls, let's say, and what I mean by that is if you speak about the NFL and professional football, well then you're probably on your For You timeline, you're gonna be fed things about soccer or baseball or other sports, and the content that you put out might find its way into those other channels. So if you're sharing about the NFL, well, somebody that's really into soccer might see a post that you make that perhaps goes quasi-viral. It is my assertion that if you talk about some other issues, in particular politics, that you are still able to find your way outside of your echo chamber. What I mean by that is, if you're on the Republican side of a discourse, well, then some of your content might make its way over to that of an individual who pretty much exclusively- Looks at democratic or liberal content. But then there's other topics that if you discuss, it seems like you only are seen and showed to those that also see the world exactly the same way, which would be get the question, "Why?" And obviously the benefit, could be that by limiting you and putting you in that little box, well, then fewer people see your ideas, which if you're a group in power, well, that's certainly of great benefit Right? After all, if I'm, if I'm the Wizard of Oz and there are a couple people who are walking around with the Munchkins and they're saying, "Hey, you might wanna look behind the curtain," right? It would behoove me as the Wizard to, try and cut out the literal or figurative tongue of that Munchkin. Not an advocacy obviously for violence, trying to make a, a metaphor here, right? And what I mean by that is that those individuals that talk about the individual behind the curtain, or they suggest- suggest that individuals look over there. Those individuals seem to get virtually no traction. And so those of us that are in the Truther movement, there's different aspects of the things that we might discuss, right? But nonetheless, we all are seeing this suppression. And, I can say with personal experience that it was the very last conversation we had on the algorithm where my account in that time in between, it has not grown at all according to the total, total follower account. I've, I've basically gone up and down within one hundred and eighteen point two or point three followers. It goes up, it goes down, it goes up, it goes down, and that maybe happens on a once every two or so week window. And yet, the analytics tab within X, if you're a premium subscriber, you can see these things, it says I gain a net at least one to two hundred new followers a day, and I say net because that is the additional new followers minus The individuals that have chosen to unfollow me, right? Even if I take those into consideration, I'm going up a hundred to two hundred people a day. So how is it over a two week window that my account hasn't gone up at all? It should-- I mean, by that basic math, even if you just, if you go on the low end of that scale, that's a hundred a day, that's seven hundred a week, you would think that I would have gone up point one point four thousand followers, and yet I haven't gone up at all. And so what is happening there↗

9:27Speaker 2So they don't record bots on the, on the list when they purge them, for some reason.↗

9:31Ian MalcolmWell, and, and it's curious because on-- and I even went in, to, to dive into that a little further. I even went in and I asked Grok. I said, "Grok, when they have additions and subtractions within the analytics tab on X, does that include accounts that might be included in a quote-unquote bot purge?" And it said, "Yes, it does." And so that would suggest that those numbers should reflect the totality of your↗

9:56Ian MalcolmAnd, and that, again, it's not going up and down, it's just staying relatively static. I'll be curious to see if that is a sentiment that's shared by others. I'll be curious to see if others have had success trying to figure out how to get outside their echo chambers. These are all things that we're gonna cover here. we will supplement this in the latter portion with a, maybe a little bit more blunt conversation about what those interests might be that would really suppress accounts, but, you know, this is definitely a very different atmosphere. Than even a year or two or three ago, and, and I'll be very curious for some of the speakers up here and their thoughts on the evolution of this. We're gonna get individuals up here that know the algorithm on the back end, and there's a couple new folks that have come across the, posts that Nikita Bier responded to that I shared, talking about the follower accounts, that, might be able to, to join us as well. Perhaps we'll even get Nikita in here directly. I don't anticipate that happening. I don't↗

10:56Ian MalcolmThe discourse. And so with that being said, I wanna first off, I wanna thank, the co-hostess with the mostess, who you should all be following, Miss Joanne, between myself and a couple other people, she is exceptional. She'll keep the ship, in the lane, the car on the road, whatever analogy you wanna use. she's an absolute superstar. And I also wanna, of course, thank, the incomparable shadow of Ezra, one of the larger accounts here on X, in the truther segment of it. And, We'll go to Shadow for some of his initial thoughts on this topic, perhaps some of his thoughts on the idea of the Matrix and how we're living within it on this application, and then we'll go back to Joanne, and we will go through all of you, all those that are up here on the speaker panel, if you do wanna join, feel free to throw up a mic request, we'll bring up all kinds of people. And also, if you'd prefer, share your comments in the purple pill, right? Put anything in there, I will scan through all of that, we'll throw Any other things I might be missing here off the, the menu here for the conversation?↗

12:03@joann_marieI think we should also talk someday, maybe today if we have time, about the space glitches because it's just wild. Like, Ian sends me pictures of how it's, like, saying that it's like disconnecting every couple of minutes and also I get messages of people that can't hear the space. So I don't know, like, I- There, there's something that should be fixed about that. And, yeah, no, I'm, I'm really happy to be here, and I can't wait to learn and also, again, guys, please repost this page, and if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and Shadow of Pesh and Mr. Anderson and Tom and AlphaFox, everyone, and also↗

12:46@joann_marieYeah, no, I'm, I'm, I can't wait to learn more about it. So thank you.↗

12:50Ian MalcolmYeah, and last little comment, if people do have issues with the, in particular the audio, if it all of a sudden cuts out, if you got here because you saw it on somebody's profile rather than at the top of the For You page where it probably should have been, you know, add all of those little things to the purple, pill. We'll certainly be calling those out, throughout the conversation. And I wouldn't be surprised, the Sorts of issues with, audio glitches. So, seems like the more, the more of an audience we develop, the more X tries to ensure that we can't go above and beyond. But, but with that, let's go to Mr. Shadow of Ezra.↗

13:28@shadowofezraThank you very much. And I gotta say, I am now totally in the mood to watch The Three Matrix. All over again, even though the directors are transgender now, I think, I believe they're, I believe they're not men or women, I don't know which direction they went, but I don't know. But the movies were great. But anyways, I always start off the spaces by giving shoutouts to the people that I'm very familiar with. Number one, obviously, is Ian Malcolm for hosting this. Number two is Joanne Marie, everybody knows her. Alpha Fox, a very funny channel, you all should follow if you're having a, a depressed day, turn your notifications on. We got Here, who has the really cool background picture, the half Punisher, half Matrix. I, I really wanna steal it, but I'm not gonna do that. It's a really nice picture. I gotta say hi to women being awful, another hilarious account.↗

14:17@shadowofezraTurn your notifications on. Mandy also, I'm very- I'm getting familiar with Mandy. Love God, hate evil, Psalm 97:10, I agree. Follow Tony, TonyMichaelX, he will tell you exactly what the hell's going on. And my very good friend over here The rubber band man, band man, 776. This guy will text me at 4 AM with the hilarious joke, I'll be half asleep, I'll be like, "I'll, I'll respond in 4 hours sometimes. We live in different time zones, but I love his energy. He's amazing, and I've known him for a long time. Also, Drunk Cicero, I'm very familiar with your replies. Greg for sure, Greg, Jesus is the Messiah, yes, he is, and he will return. So if I'm not familiar with anybody else, I↗

15:02@shadowofezraThe obviously what Ian Malcolm said is, about a part two from all the issues that we're having and all the complaints that we've been seeing on X. And actually, I'm not even gonna say all the complaints, 'cause there are some people that are saying they like the way it is. So I gotta be neutral about both positions. So if you have that to say, I would love to hear you. So↗

15:22@shadowofezraI don't wanna regurgitate the stuff that I said last time, I just wanna actually add on what has happened since. So what has happened since, I'm gonna speak about the last four eight hours, where it has been pretty abysmal, where I personally have not been spending much time on this platform because of the way it is, and not because of, let's just say my posts, forget me for a second. I also like seeing people I disagree with, I like to see them post, like I wanna see Ben Shapiro and Laura Loomer posting more, just so I can put better information out than them and show people that I'm right. So I want people that disagree with what my worldview is to post and Seen and to be engaged with. So I'm one of those people that will tell you, "I want that to happen," and I'm not seeing that, which sucks, because that's the whole beauty of X is it brings a group of people that don't necessarily agree on anything that happens. Like, we can all look at the footage of George Floyd, and we can all come to ten different conclusions about what really happened. So that's what X is to me. That's why it's titled Breaking the Matrix, 'cause we do kind of- Live in a Matrix, but I would take it a step further, I would say it's the Matrix within the Matrix. So you don't really know where the real Matrix is, because we're kept in the fake one. So that's a different conversation. But with that said, to me, now X is transitioning into this whole TikTok, Instagram type of thing, which I'm personally not a fan of, but I'm also open to that idea in the sense where it can create more engagement. But the first thing that I wanna tell you guys is the whole face reaction thing, that's the newest feature X released, which has gotten mixed reviews. Most people say they like it, most people say if I see anybody posting that stuff, I'm muting them. And then there's people like me who are like fifty-fifty on it, but I'm mostly on the "I don't like it" because there's a reason I'm not on TikTok. I feel like X to me is, if you go on the app, Google Play Store or, or on the Apple Store, it'll,↗

17:19@shadowofezranews, information, breaking news, which, Nikita called us a cancer, which I kinda took offense to, but whatever, I understand what he's saying also. I'm not saying he's totally wrong, but I'm not saying he's totally right. I don't think all news aggregators are cancers, but there are some people that do plague the timeline with just spam, spam, spam, spam, spam, and I totally get that, like, I'm with X on that side, but they also gotta realize that there are people that are actually putting out like quality new content,↗

17:48@shadowofezraAnd if you listen to podcasts, everybody here listens to podcasts, right? We all listen to sometimes press conferences, we all listen to President Trump when he talks, whatever you wanna say about him. So nobody in here is gonna say that I'm gonna listen to the full three hour podcast of Tucker Carlson, right? But there are people that clip like two minute segments here, fifty seconds or a minute, just to show you guys exactly if there's something new going on around the world or a new opinion or a new take, which everybody can come and collectively see and a-agree with, argue it, or just Those types of people shouldn't be put into the category of somebody who just waits for somebody to post just so they can steal and plagiarize it. Like that's totally like stupid, you know what I mean? Like, I'm against that. I think that's what he was talking↗

18:30Speaker 2about, wasn't it? It wasn't the legit aggregators, it was like the people posting fake news or old stuff perpetually. I agree.↗

18:36@shadowofezraBut he also doesn't specify that sometimes a channel like mine or anybody else in here, or even if you're an entertainment account, you'll have to sometimes post older stuff to If it connects. Like, that's the whole point of breaking out of the matrix. If you're one of those people, if you're not, that's cool with me. You can stay in the matrix with Mr. Anderson. But I'm saying sometimes you have to pull clips from like, like ten years ago and be like, "Remember when this person said this? Look, it just happened today." Like, there's a lot of those that happens. Especially like with a platform this large, people have great, like, memory. Like, there are people here that are like forty, fifty years old From back in the day is going to be useful for people seeing it today who are much younger. So there's nothing wrong with that. I don't consider that like slop posting, as long as, as long as you're not putting the word breaking in front of it, you can just explain it the way that you want people to understand. So I just felt like it wasn't, like, these statements that come out from X, they're like vague to me, and they're like They're not very like explained to me properly, like I, I wish, it would be my dream that if they came onto the space, so we can clearly ask them, like, "Is this what you meant? Is this the direction that you wanna go?" This whole original content, I'm, I'm totally on board with that. There are so many small accounts that post amazing small content, like original, but you have to remember, original content doesn't always mean good content, it doesn't mean that somebody's gonna automatically like it just because it's original. So you have to find Your niche audience, that's one of the things that you have to understand. Like, I have a very good understanding of my audience, so I post specific things that I know they're gonna engage with, that they're gonna like, and then they're gonna possibly agree or disagree with. So with that being said, those are my, pet peeves of what's going on. And let me go back to the reaction thing, the TikTok thing. I, I kinda wanna see how this thing plays out, but here's the problem with the-- Now I'm gonna get a political for one second These reaction videos are getting boosted, which means X completely controls the perception of what you see and how much you see it, and basically what everybody here agrees with that, right? You're, you're seeing them everywhere in your for you section, right? So I can tell you guys, I'm not gonna name the person, like I had a friend of mine that I told him to do a reaction video to my Ivanka Trump clip that went super viral with like eleven million views with the whole Jared Kushner purchasing the Albanian island, which people have been talking about like crazy, so I told him To do a reaction video that, and let me see how many views you get as an experiment. I'm not gonna name the person, but within three hours he got one million views. Now, this is an account that without the reaction stuff could ba- it, it, he probably would have gotten like maybe thirty, forty thousand views, I don't know. I'm not judging the person, I'm just saying that X has the ability to turn something on and to turn something off. And right now they're turning on that feature and they are blowing it up. If you're somebody who wants to do a↗

21:39@shadowofezraYou will go viral right now, you'll get an easy twenty, thirty, forty thousand views as long as it's, the fork is pointing towards a, a, a, a very interesting post. So that is to me control right there. That means they can show you exactly what type of, con- Or what way, the way of content is being, talking about, or spoken about, excuse me. So that is literally proof right there. The next time they say, "Oh, we don't control anything," you can use that as an example. So I, I personally, it's, it's a reaction thing, but I feel like It can also help people in the sense where if somebody's posting a clip, remember, you're reacting to something that was posted. You can't react to something unless it wasn't posted. So you still need people that are curating and aggregating and breaking news, right? 'Cause you're reacting to something that exists already or that's being posted. So I can't do a reaction video on my face if something doesn't exist. So remember, so that, that's the part that I kinda like, that it kinda like, it kinda like builds on something that's already posted. So if you're Just said we're, we're, the, the, the war with Iran is done, and then it goes viral, and then you have a bunch of talking heads talking about, debating about what's going on. That's pretty cool. But my point is that, that, that piece needs to exist for people to react to. So that, we'll see how it goes. It's still not open to the Android people like me. So I don't know if this is gonna be like a one or two week thing where ninety percent of people stop using it. We're gonna find out in like five or six days. And that's basically my, take on what's been happening so far. As far as the complaints, I still see people getting like, they reach-- I wanna talk about the followers, actually. Let me ask you guys a question. If you get a post that gets eleven million views, how many new followers do you think you should get from that? Do you think you should get ten new followers, twenty, thirty, forty? That's kinda low, right? Eleven million views is a lot of views, right? And you're not ret↗

23:42@shadowofezraAnd I, I'm not complaining, I'm just telling you the reality of the situation. I got like 40 followers from that, which never happened before. So that's just strange to me, I don't understand that. My, my theory is this It's like X has basically, now everybody knows it's using the algorithm, right? So it's placed you in a circle. In your circle is the people that follow you, but then also in that circle is people who closely follow you. They don't necessarily follow you, but they follow you in sen- in the sense where we speak about or share, interest in similar topics. Out of that circle, you can't grow. Because if you step out of that circle, then you will start Getting a lot of new followers, and to do that on X, you basically have to become the next Nick Shirley, 'cause you have to go like super, super, super, super, super duper viral, and everybody has to be talking about you, and that's the way that you will get new followers. Before it wasn't like that. Before, like last year, if you had like a, like a post with ten, five, ten, fifteen million views, you will get, you would easily get,↗

24:47@shadowofezraYou would easily get like two thousand, three thousand, four thousand new followers. That's not happening anymore, and that's my take on it. If, Ian got anything else to say, I see some hands, we can go to them.↗

24:58Speaker 3Ian, could I possibly ask a favor, it's money-penny, I haven't run a space in months because my spaces have been so blocked, I booked a space to talk about this topic. a couple of hours ago, because I found out stuff and I'm so passionate and angry about stuff, I will cancel my space if you'll allow me to stay up here as a speaker and share some of the stuff about X and the reason why we're here on X and the reason why Elon is doing what he's doing with it.↗

25:38Speaker 3because otherwise MySpace, nobody will even know about it because you're so big and you've got big space, and I'm a little nobody, but I'm bloody angry about what I found out.↗

25:49Ian MalcolmWell, no, nobody isn't nobody, everybody is a, not only a somebody, but a somebody special, and, MoneyPenny would, would love for you to, to share that, and, and just happy to have whatever audience we can muster for you to, to share it with.↗

26:03Speaker 3Thank you, I'm so appreciative. And Shadow, I was 100% in, I could have been fashioning my 100%, 100% of the time. I'm with you, absolutely with you. My first post today, I deleted it because it was in anger, but I got up and my follower numbers had suddenly dropped. For no apparent reason, and when I looked at my analytics,↗

26:28Speaker 3my new follower numbers had still been increasing very mildly, nothing like they should be doing, or nothing like they had been doing for months and months, but my main follower number had dropped by about six hundred for no apparent reason, for no reason at all. It just dropped. I have no passion, no interest, no love, no joy, no inspiration on this platform at the moment because I have no understanding of what is going on, and I'm so glad there are people here. Can I,↗

26:57@shadowofezracan I quickly add something since you mentioned that? I'm, I'm glad you mentioned that, that's one thing I totally forgot to tell people. So if you've been losing followers lately Here's another problem, X doesn't tell you if they're doing a bot purge, right? You have to ask Grok, which is basically a bot to me. Sometimes it'll get it right, sometimes it'll get it wrong, depending on who's feeding↗

27:16@shadowofezragrab the information on that day. So people are losing followers, I think it was Ian that asked Nikita yesterday about it. I wasn't, too keen on the responses, like I'm somebody who doubts authority, just by default, that's just how I am. So this never happened before, like there would be days where, you know, you would lose like a hundred or two hundred followers, and they'll be like, "Yeah, it's a bot purge." But now I'm seeing accounts that are legitimate getting suspended, like authentic accounts that don't have any type of, inauthentic account, flags or nothing like that. They're not breaking the rules, they're just posting regular stuff, and they're getting suspended. And if they're not famous, it's very hard to get reinstated in this app because X also has this problem where if you're not like friends with people or, you know, if you're not a big network, you can't easily get, back onto your account. So that's another thing that's going↗

28:06@shadowofezraIt goes on, if somebody disagrees with what you post, you know, they'll have like these groups that'll just report your account, and then for a few days you'll be down. And so they have all these problems. I don't, I'm not, I'm not believing that X is doing a bot purge. I don't know why I feel like they're taking away followers from people. I obviously don't have proof, this is just my feeling. The reason I feel this way is because they won't give us a response. So if they don't respond to us, if they don't↗

28:36@shadowofezraparanoid person.↗

28:38Speaker 3I've got the proof, mate. I've got the proof, mate. I know, I think, I believe this. I have a customized version of various AI, and I wanted to play it. I don't know how good the quality would be. It might just be easier if I read it. But I am absolutely stunned by what I've discovered in the last few hours investigating, and it does explain the bot purge, and it does explain what we're all about and what this platform's about, and I'm sure we'll get onto it. I won't, I won't take over, Ian, it's your space. Thank you for letting me speak.↗

29:13@shadowofezraYeah, just to respond to that also, this stuff that's going on, I also feel like this is being done in a way to demoralize people, like the way, you were just saying, Nick, Money and Penny, that, you know, you feel like you don't wanna be on the app, and it does work, 'cause what is the point of doing something if nobody sees it and nobody hears you, right? It's like you're, you're going down the middle of the street and you're just yelling for somebody to come, but nobody↗

29:42@shadowofezraSpread, but nobody hears you. So that is, that could be very well a psychological operation that's going on where they want people to completely get off, or they're trying to change your percep- perception of what you post. Like, I feel like it's a little bit of, they're trying to demoralize you, and then they're trying to steer your direction into a more entertainment, gossip↗

30:04@shadowofezracelebrity type of finance and talk about stuff like that and take away the political stuff. You see how Instagram is, when you go on Instagram and you're scrolling, you see people doing like pranks, you see people like, you know, recording stuff, so- To me, it looks like they're trying to turn X into that type of variable, like something along those lines, which would really suck because we don't need another Instagram, we need X for what it is. Like, just give me the information, tell me what's going on, I wanna come and agree with it, and if I disagree with it, I'll post something better. You know what it is? That's what X is. It's a conversation. It's not like a, it's not like a real, like some- You don't come on here to like watch reels and stuff↗

30:48@shadowofezraSteer X into that direction. The reason is obvious, it could be either censorship or it's easy to advertise with that type of content and people would- it would make X way more profitable. So those are the two, theories that I have. If you guys have anything else to say, we got some hands up. Ian, you want me to pick the hand or you gonna pick? Yeah, go for it. Okay, we can go to Citizen, Dawn, please.↗

31:14Speaker 4Yeah, what's up, guys? I think this is a very interesting topic. one thing I also, thought, probably something particularly to note for Ms. MoneyPenny would be the laws in the UK and especially the political situation. And, they're rolling out the digital ID stuff and, you know, they're, they're not really making it these kinds of subjects,↗

31:41Speaker 4like accessible. Like it does feel like moving into an echo chamber of sorts, I hate to say it, but like an Orwellian type of scenario as they're, as they're manipulating markets to this extent,↗

31:58Speaker 4with the conflicts and everything, you know, and everything seems to be increasingly polarized, nothing really makes sense. You know, if you're thinking about longevity of the civilization, you know, like what we've just seen unfold just in recent decades is indicative of what any rational, reasonable person would conclude is something extremely problematic, you know?↗

32:31Speaker 4we're facing like different, I mean, allegedly energy crises, this and that And, you know, I can tell you firsthand, early on in my experience, just even bringing up, well, just on social media and just on anything is in America becoming increasingly,↗

32:55Speaker 4prejudicial and extremely,↗

33:03Speaker 4moving the Legislative, judicial, components of American governance into something extremely problematic, especially demonstrated by the data center developments and how this is all being run in by billionaires on like an inter- it's like an international combine, and again, the almost blatant- Kind of like rezoning of the entire civilization as we↗

33:41Speaker 4face significant challenges, you know, to sh- and conversations that you would, you would expect to be happening to avoid scenes like this guy who has just been stabbed on the street, the police You know, guy, it, I mean, everything seems so retarded, it's almost like unfathomable that it would be legitimate and it should be something obviously more prominently spoken, but it always is this one direction of the, of the prejudicial way that is being portrayed. And, you know, there's a lot of complexities here that would obviously benefit civilization at large, society at large, to have this kind of conversation, and it's, yeah, it is The, the kinds of assaults, the kinds of, technologies available to completely Orwellianly, more or less,↗

34:37Speaker 4really be invasive with surveillance and all this, this is like a, a pivotal point for our, the development of our civilization, and, and it seems to be the case that they're ignoring all the pertinent issues and completely, you know, x the free speech platform. I mean, they've been going around manipulating people's ability to access banks.↗

35:03Speaker 4I mean, everything is so totalitarian and conversations such that happen in Ian Malcolm's space, and, you know, bringing up things that would potentially- Steer the way things are going into something that I would, I would expect the wide majority of humans would agree is just non-functional, or but not something away from that, as that, that which was non-functional. You know? But anyways, I'm gonna leave it there. Extremely disappointing. I would love to hear Ms. MoneyPenny's, particular concerns around that aspect.↗

35:43@shadowofezraLet me quickly respond to when you mentioned technologies. So since you mentioned that word about the technologies they're using to, you know, whatever for suppression or whatever, the one thing that X is now cracking down on is duplicate posts, right? So that sounds good on paper, right? So everybody's like, "Yeah, they're gonna get rid of stuff that I don't have to see again." But here's my thing, though What if the reason that they're doing that is so that you only get one opinion of a news story or one, one narration? Is that what you guys really want? Like, let's say if there's a, if there's a terrorist attack, right, in like, God forbid, in New York City or something. Like a 9/11 style attack, right? Is X going to just show the first person who posts about it over and over again in everybody's feed? What if somebody has like a different opinion about it or a different perspective? It may be the same clip, but like I said earlier, the George Floyd thing, right? We can all watch the same clip, but we can all have ten different opinions about what the hell happened that day based on what we know, based on what we think is gonna happen, and based on what we're seeing. So that's a very-- a lot of↗

36:48@shadowofezrapeople Everybody was like, "Yeah, we don't wanna see the same stuff again," without actually putting on their thinking hats and thinking what is the reason for that. So I feel like X is like right now trying to build this Us versus large, like small, they're trying to pin small accounts versus large accounts. Not that, not because they have your best interest in mind, they're doing that so that they can possibly put out something like what I just said, where only like a few people get, so you get like your news from a few people. That, that could possibly be a very, real thing. But the reason I bring this up is that you guys can actually change that when you see like comments like that, you can respond now and say Hey, what, what, what about this? What about that? Like, I don't wanna just get everything from CNN, and that's a horrible example, I know CNN is fake news, but I'm just saying if, if you're, if you're watching, if you're stuck watching the television, don't you wanna flip the channels and see what other, other television stations are saying about, like, what just happened, instead of just watching Don Lemon or I don't even know who works at CNN anymore, I don't remember the last time I watched it, I don't know if he works I might wanna change the channel and be like, "Hey, I wanna see what Sean Hannity's saying. I don't like either of them, but I just wanna see what they're saying. Maybe I'll get like a ten percent different input, you know?" So that's-- I'm, I'm very glad you mentioned that, and I wanted to just explain that to you guys. I, I honestly bring this up all the time because I don't know who's listening, and I wanna get that information out there. This is a very, very important thing, like perception. Like, don't↗

38:29@shadowofezraget The exact thing, yes. Be upset about it. I don't care. That is your right. But if you're seeing the same video and something is narrated differently or spoken to you differently or presented to you, then engage with it still and see what happens, 'cause you never know, sometimes you might see that second video and be like, "I actually agree with this one more." I can't tell you how many things I seen during the, when the White House ballroom incident happened. At first, I was like,↗

38:57@shadowofezra"What the hell's..." At, at, like everybody else, I Like I was gonna cover speeches and stuff, but then when the stuff happened, I see like Melania Trump and stuff walking around, and I'm like, you know, in, in my suspicious head, I'm like, these people look very calm, and like, why is the news in here and like people are taking vlogs and all those videos started coming out, and then you're seeing different perspectives, and now people are, you know, arguing about what they think happened, what different-- they're seeing different angles. So we don't wanna just get all of that information from one person, we wanna see They should get the most views. But, and they're wrong in the sense where if somebody else posts the same thing, obviously give the credit where it's due. But if they post a different idea of what's happening, that person shouldn't be suppressed also, you know what I mean? 'Cause they wanna get rid of duplicate posts, and they're like, "We're not gonna pay for duplicate postings anymore, we're moving away from that." But is, is it really a duplicate post if somebody's giving a fresh perspective on it? So just think about that. let's go to,↗

40:01Speaker 3What I've discovered at a macro level is it doesn't bloody well matter what we are doing because the financial, commercial valuation, the physical need that Elon Musk has for retaining this platform, albeit now sold within the SpaceX thing, is all about feeding Grok. We are fuel to create data to build Build and expand the training for Grok. That is all that matters, and everything that is being done, the bot washing, the getting rid of the one million plus accounts that represent one single account, because let's face it, this valuation of this company is based on the amount of active accounts. Now, whether you are an account with two million followers or an account with two hundred- Hundred followers, if you are an active account, you contribute to the valuation of this company. This company no longer has any purpose as a social media platform. Elon isn't interested. I have it on good authority, I have it evidenced, this is no longer a social media platform. It is very simple A fuel to build the most capable reactive, natural, up to date AI responsive aware ability resource on the planet, and we are the batteries that feed it That's all, that's everything.↗

41:54@shadowofezraI agree with you, but don't you think if they want like all that reaction and stuff to be like recorded, they gotta give us the views for that to happen, right? Don't you think if they want like all this data to come in? Wouldn't the best way for that to happen would be if they don't suppress us, if more people are actually feeding the system, like in terms of engagement and like activity? Like why would they take away the reach if they wanna do that? Like I'm not saying it's wrong. Drop off,↗

42:18Speaker 3drop off on bigger accounts, established accounts, the account that has three or four hundred users, followers, is a lot more likely to retain and stay with the platform, because they are growing and they are incentivized Incentivized, and they can see their numbers going up. If you take the accounts that have got hundred thousand, two hundred thousand followers, and you su- slightly suppress them, they get a bit pissy, and you might lose one or two. But if you incentivize the small accounts, more small accounts join, and more small accounts refer more small accounts, and the numbers of small accounts go up. They don't mind losing some of the big accounts, 'cause you're just one account. You are just one big shouty account. But if they incentivize The smaller growing accounts, to get more smaller growing accounts, they get more input and more fuel.↗

43:11@shadowofezraThat is a very, that's a very good explanation, I gotta say.↗

43:17@joann_marieAnd maybe they also deboost the ones that aren't in their sign up operations. I don't know if you guys remember that there was like a experiment that Facebook did, and I posted it in the purple panel for those that haven't heard of it, that they changed the algorithm in just some people And see what they did, and they got them depressed and stuff like that. So maybe the ones that are like making a change and they're not in the way that peop-- that they want us to react, they depost them, and then they post the other ones that they want us to fall into the weird side of. I have literally muted clavicular, and I just get my, my feed flooded with clavicular, like I don't wanna see him, and I still like, I don't know what do I need to write to- Never see that guy ever again. I got it on. Yeah, they are posting some and unposting others, so it's, I, it's crazy.↗

44:17@joann_marieAnd that's about it. Should we go to the next count or do you guys want to add anything, Leanne or Shadow?↗

44:24@shadowofezraLet's go to, who's been waiting longer. Damn, I'm so bad at this, guys. I don't really host spaces like that.↗

44:30@joann_marieDom. I↗

44:30@shadowofezrawanna go to who's been holding their hand up the longest. I don't wanna make them wait.↗

44:35Speaker 5You know↗

44:35@shadowofezrawho won? Yeah.↗

44:36Speaker 6Okay, me or Andrew won. Okay, what- Andrew won the elections here before↗

44:39Speaker 5me.↗

44:40Speaker 6Okay. Cool. hey everybody, Ian, good to see you. Joanne, good to see you. As- Ezra, I've been following you a little bit of late, enjoying your stuff. I really have enjoyed the comments so far tonight. Muddy Penny, great comments. I actually enjoyed Citizen Thomas' comments for once. anyway, real quickly, I think you gave a pretty good overview of the situation, Ezra, as far as the state of affairs. I mean, we need to be, you know, understanding about what's going on here. These platforms are really becoming the news, and they're not the news. And there are no, you know, virtually no journalistic standards, expectations, rules. And this is a real problem 'cause we're trying to get the, you know, actionable information that we can guide our lives by. And these are the spaces that we come to to do this, you know, not just X, we've got a problem right now. And as far as X is concerned, I'm sorry, Elon, and this, this app is a fraud. It is a control mechanism. It is data mining and trying to, you know, push, the responsive people in their minds in directions that they find favorable. Basically, the tech boys and, the tech bros and- This whole stochastic chaos and destruction machine that they really are pushing. So we're in a little bit of a pickle here.↗

46:12Speaker 6you know, the other thing, this, this app gets zero support technically, operationally. I mean, it's always glitching out. It's just a toy for, for Musk. And I do think that they're doing all sorts of different, gaming and, you know, just again, data analysis and, and looking at how it applies to the AI platform That he does wanna build, is trying to build, but nothing of it's legit. We are being manipulated, just like everything else, and this has been put up as being a truth telling, you know, organization as far as ex- as, you know, that's what Elon will tell you, it's bullshit. It's absolute bullshit. So there's never been a better time, 'cause we're not gonna get anything better unless we build it ourselves. And the fact that people are starting to realize how fucked up this is, just like our politics and everything else, I, I mean, we can't rely on leadership, quote unquote, to do shit. We, we see this for what it is. And again, we could build something as far as a new community on YouTube and have a presence here. But anybody that really, you know, is here is getting manipulated. I mean, I, I've been here for over ten years, I've been highly, highly modulated, on a bunch of different stuff, and I try to, you know, put out real news. I've got a journalistic background. And one problem about these, about social media in general, because it's not real journalism, the, you know, the, the prime rules are to not, you know, weigh the story, you know, a-and basically occlude the truth. You wanna tell the truth, you wanna present the facts and the information. And if they are definitely, you know, pushing things, modulating, boosting people,↗

48:04Speaker 6you know, depressing people, which they are, absolutely a hundred percent, that's what's going on. I mean, I don't know why we're gonna put up with it and stay here personally. The other thing is, in the social media game, the other rule of journalism is don't become part of the story, and you have to become a part of the story as influencers and, and putting out this news. So it's just, it's a real sticky thing that we're in the middle of, and we need discussion platforms so that people can actually find common ground. they're trying to divide us in every which way, and they're certainly doing that here on X now.↗

48:43Speaker 6I mean, what, what we're talking about, and God bless you, Ian, for, for starting this room, and Ezra, for talking about this, and everybody else. And we talk about all sorts of different things in these, you know, rooms about what's wrong, and it all boils down to we're being manipulated. So we're gonna have to build it ourselves. I think that's pretty much all I was thinking about saying.↗

49:05Speaker 6You know, this is a tool for division, turn simple, and we don't need division. We need to figure out a way to come together, discuss things, and act to prevent this nuisance being put around all of our necks. So anyway, I love you all, this is a great room, really looking forward to hearing everybody else's comments.↗

49:25@shadowofezraThank you very much for that. quickly, I wanted to let everybody know since, you know, people were messaging me about the followers. the way to get new followers on this platform now is not based on how many views you get per day. It's, it, it, that's a small effect, yes. You can get like a certain amount of followers, like if you do good. Performance-wise, yes. But now, if the only way to get new followers per day is if you are on something called starter packs. if you guys know what that is, react with your smiley faces so I can, if not, I'll explain it to you guys. So starter packs is this thing that,↗

49:58@shadowofezraX started, like I think it was a couple of months ago, where they divide your, your, by, by topics. Like it has like news, it has podcasters or whatever, it has like entertainment, meme makers. So if you're not I'm not going to get new followers. So, somebody who I speak to right now, just, I'm not gonna name him, he sent me evidence basically that somebody receives, who, who has like less than fifty thousand followers, right? And he went on the starter packs, and he gained like ten thousand followers in a week, and he was only posting like three or four times a day. So, and he has a very small amount of followers, like, he gets maybe two thousand views per, per post, right? And he gained like ten thousand followers in like a few weeks or a couple weeks, whatever. And he showed me his before and after, so, and he's on the starter pack. So, I, I don't know what the metrics are for joining the starter pack. My assumption is you have to know somebody on X that would help, or they, they pick and choose like who they like or whoever's, whoever they vet. But that's the way to get new followers on this app, which sucks because If you're not on there, it's like your, your, your account can't grow, and that's one of the best motivating factors is when you get on to your social media, X, whatever, is the ability to grow and to reach new audiences and to be able to give them, you know, your intake of what's going on in the world, but that's not possible with X. X is the only platform where the more followers you get The less views you, you, you obtain. So it's like, it's, it's, it's not making sense to me. So, who had their hand up next? I forgot who was next.↗

51:33@joann_marieIt's Tom. And then I'm back.↗

51:35@shadowofezraOkay.↗

51:36@joann_marieGo for it, Tom.↗

51:38Speaker 7Hey, thanks guys. Shout out to Joanne, Ian. So, yeah, look, this is a very important, I think, it's a subject that's been kind of ignored. It's a subject that not a lot of people are even aware of, actually. So Here's what I think might be behind a lot of this. Too many well-informed people with a ton of knowledge who'd probably have never partaken, partaken in any of these spaces necessarily or even entered social media↗

52:04Speaker 7were activated by the Epstein class's bioterrorist attack on humanity between late 2019, mid 2021. And the result of this has been the emergence of a significant number of people Who just couldn't believe that this happened and became so distrusting of the individuals that gave us all the worst advice imaginable during the pandemic, that they started to seek the best source for maximalist truth speaking, you know, people that, that they wanna find sources that are speaking and seeking the truth no matter what, uncompromisingly, and I think most people that were looking for that Found it maybe on YouTube here and there and when Elon Musk purchased the app, and I was really excited when Elon purchased the app. I'm so glad you purchased it, I think it's been, it's led to changes that, for the most part, have been positive. But there's been this Hysterical class of individuals that seem to be in more control of X than Musk himself, and I would tend to think that Musk, you know, he's, he's not particularly involved in the daily running of X. I don't think he's particularly concerned about what's going on, and there are other people that are hysterically concerned about what's going on, and so I'm guessing, you know, he's got other things that he's interested in doing in his life, and he said, he said, "You know, I'll hand it over to you guys when it comes to the management↗

53:28Speaker 7People woke up to the horror of the fact that all of the information we were getting was deliberately bad advice, very deliberately, by the way. And I'm sure all of you are well aware of that. And so the product of that is you get a lot of people coming in that are obviously, you know, very energetic, lively, and extremely authentic, maximalist truth seekers, and the, the end result of that has been, you know, the power structure freaking out as to how much truth gets spoken about in these spaces and somehow manages to permeate or seep through into other social media platforms Platforms and ends up being talked about by a lot of big names eventually, usually on YouTube. I'm not really watching any Netflix or TV or cable, so I have no idea what's, what's, if any of this is making it all the way to there. I don't think it is. And so, you know,↗

54:13Speaker 7you know, I would say this to people that are out there taking a check, I'm sorry, guys. Anyone that's out there that's listening, if you're taking a check, check to obfuscate the truth or derail conversations in an already highly suppressed and algorithmically limited environment, as the Epstein classes' faithful assistants, obviously you're getting paid for it, I would suggest you consider stopping. And here's the reason why. I've been analyzing the situation pretty closely and carefully since I've been speaking in spaces, probably before then. which was around early 2025. And it's become pretty clear to me that we're heading to-- These people are pushing so hard, look, they wanna integrate the, the IDF into the United States military.↗

54:58Speaker 7Does anyone realize how dangerous that is?↗

55:00@shadowofezraAnd Ukraine, don't forget that. They're trying to put Ukraine also on that same thing now.↗

55:05Speaker 7You're joking. No. I wanna have people that have been-↗

55:07@shadowofezraNo, the Democrat, I forgot his name, I saw a clip of it when I was listening to the hearing, he said they wanna do the same thing for Ukraine. I don't know if it's gonna go through, but they're trying. Or they're getting ideas. So I, I saw the whole press conference today, it was very demoralizing. But I didn't wanna post about it because I don't know on X, you know, it's like, you waste eight hours on a boring Congress briefing, and you don↗

55:35@shadowofezraRight.↗

55:36Speaker 7So I've never been one of the, I hear you, brother, and look, I, I've never been one of these guys that comes in and says, "Look, the revolution's gonna solve everything." I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna advocate for that because, well, for a number of reasons. I have family members that have advised me against it, so if it wasn't for that, I might. But the other reason is that I also think that the country's so divided right now through the effect of- Efforts of people like Obama and others that have sown so much division deliberately that I don't necessarily think it would, it would end to, it would lead to a necessarily, positive result. It could, but what I think is gonna happen is out of my control, it's out of everyone's control. What's gonna end up happening is this, if these people keep pushing,↗

56:15Speaker 7things are gonna break. I wouldn't be surprised if we see factions of the US armed forces Going rogue and defending themselves against what is a hostile takeover of our armed forces. This is what we're living through right now is an attempt to engage in a hostile takeover of our, of our armed forces to weaponize them against US citizens on US soil. And so because of that, if, if people are out here obfuscating the truth in spaces, I would really suggest you consider not doing it because I do think that this is gonna flip in the favor of people who-↗

56:45Speaker 7Are on the side of the masses, not on the side of the Epstein class. I think for the first time in history, that's what we're gonna see happen. Unfortunately, they're gonna destroy, they're gonna totally sink our economies. They're gonna completely wreck everything they possibly can. But let me get back on, on, on, on topic. Stop. Truly, guys, I-- if you're up here doing this for a check, I would suggest you stop, because eventually, you're gonna be looked at as bad guys, and it's not gonna probably end up, or turning out to↗

57:13Speaker 7Coming your way in the, in the future if things fall apart, look what's happening in Albania. Do you guys not think the same thing could, couldn't-- You, you guys don't think the same thing could happen in the United States?↗

57:20@shadowofezraI got a question for you. I got a question for you. So you're obviously, obviously when you say check, you mean people who get paid to speak about political opinions, right? No, no, no,↗

57:29Speaker 7off the scale. There's people that come in to derail spaces, people that come in to inject information that's irrelevant or not pertinent to the That has to do with a lot of people kind of pushing, the X, platform pushing a lot of content that's kind of drama-based nonsense rather than news. Yeah, you see a lot of that in these spaces. You see a lot of that from the individuals that I assume some of them are getting paid to do exactly that and to create content and to participate in spaces. So I think that's an, that's an interesting change that we've seen. And when it comes to the following and unfollowing, I've definitely noticed that a lot of-- Look, when you speak in spaces, the quality of following that you might be able to acquire is much higher than, than if you're just posting random things. I'm sure in Ezra's cases, that's not so because he's posting things that are of interest to people and of value. But a lot of people will post nonsense that's not particularly important, or they'll repost things in hopes of just growing a following.↗

58:33Speaker 7Followers that you get when you're just posting things versus when you're speaking in spaces tends to be a little bit different. I think the quality of followers that some of us acquire when we speak in spaces is extremely high. Sometimes there are individuals that you'd like to be able to participate in future spaces with, and you kind of take mental notes of who you're impressed by and things, and all of a sudden, months later, you find that magically you've unfollowed each other. You, like, communicate with each other either in a space or in a DM and realize, "Hmm, neither one Then ended up following me in the future, magically end up unfollowing one another. Now this is being done deliberately, and a lot of the-- a lot of times I've noticed that high quality followers are replaced with low Low, you know, accounts that have maybe ten, fifteen followers might follow a couple of people, might follow a few hundred, don't post a lot, and aren't necessarily even real human beings. They might be bots, they might be accounts that some people that are, I don't know, paid to do this sort of thing, create and generate just to populate the platform with things that can replace real followings and things like that. But there's no question that the math doesn't add up. I don't mind. I mean, in my case, I'm not really too worried about my↗

59:44Speaker 7There are people out here that have put tremendous amounts of work into what they do, and the following that some of these accounts would have would be in the hundreds of thousands or millions if it weren't for the algorithmic suppression, and there's absolutely no question about that. So it would be nice to know what's going on. I think, Nikita Bier is, is potentially someone that isn't necessarily well aware of everything that's happening on the platform. It depends on what he's really focused on managing or keeping his eye on. But it would be really nice to see that change. I mean, it would be good for the platform as well. There's no question, this platform would take on new life if they stopped suppressing accounts like Ian's. So, yeah, thanks guys, appreciate it.↗

1:00:21@shadowofezraAlright, thanks for that. let's go to AlphaFox real quick.↗

1:00:25Speaker 2I was just gonna comment on the, the starter packs. The biggest issue I see is that there's no way to know if you're on one other than the obvious boost in followers, and you can just assume, I guess. But, the only Tell is when you first make an account, it'll suggest them to you and you can go through them at that point. As soon as you finish that setup page, it's gone forever. So it's not ideal if you wanna see if you're on one, and there's no, there's no way to know what the qualifi- qualifications are to get on one. So, you know, like↗

1:01:02Speaker 2Obviously it provides a huge boost to accounts, so it would be really nice to know why people are on the packs, because it's not really fair to everyone else if they're getting a ton of new followers. i-it's an easy way to, for them to boost accounts they like, and if they don't like you, you're just not on one, and you're, it's not, you're not playing by the same set of rules, I guess, is what I'm saying. And, and we need to be more, be more transparency where that's concerned, because,↗

1:01:31Speaker 2People to be boosted and some aren't. I mean, that's really what it is, right? And you're just, you're getting a bunch of free followers. so it'd be really great if we could, understand why people get on those and how and if you're on one.↗

1:01:45@shadowofezraAgreed. I also feel like they, for the starter packs, they need like a conspiracy theory, topic or category. And I wouldn't mind being on there. That'd be a great idea. let's go to diligent.↗

1:01:58Speaker 8Yeah, y'all got any more of them starter packs? No, I don't, buddy. Get the card.↗

1:02:05Speaker 9I↗

1:02:05Speaker 8got↗

1:02:05Speaker 9the reference.↗

1:02:09Speaker 8I was just curious, so I, I, this is the first time I'm hearing of the starter packs. So can you explain it to me, like I'm, I'm day one, real quick and like,↗

1:02:19Speaker 2when you sign up, it just, one of the setup steps is pick a starter pack, and there's just a list of different groups, teams.↗

1:02:25@shadowofezraLet me, let me explain it to him.↗

1:02:26Speaker 2Good.↗

1:02:26@shadowofezraSo starter pack is basically this thing Nikita started. It was a couple of months ago. So I don't even know what month we're in. Are we in May or June↗

1:02:39@shadowofezraSo we started it as a way for people to go to this section on the website, on, on the platform, and, you know, you'll see like categories like news, and then you'll see like unhinged, personality, alpha. What are the other categories? Obviously, sports, yeah, like entertainment, videos, I think, politics So they put like the people obviously, there's no, I asked Rock a hundred times like, what is the criteria to get onto those starter packs? 'Cause that's the way to get new followers. Like if you, I'll give you guys one example of a channel, Disclose TV is on there, everybody knows Disclose TV, right? So when you go on his fol- when you check his followers, you'll see he has like, what, one point seven million followers, but if you go see his newest followers, you can see he's on the starter pack because all of the people that↗

1:03:25@shadowofezraYou'll say join June two thousand twenty-six, and if you keep going down, you'll see like a pattern of that. Not everybody, but you'll see a lot of that. So that's where people are getting their large chunks of followers from. So there are people that are weaseling their way into the star packs, I've seen that personally happen. They'll, you know, they know somebody that actually like, please put me in there, and it'll be like, that could be either a small account, medium or large. If, as long as you know somebody, they'll put you↗

1:03:55Speaker 10Followers, 'cause they don't even know what your content is yet, you know? So I think- Exactly. Which was gonna↗

1:04:01@shadowofezrabring me to my next point. A lot of the- Somebody who's on the starter- Somebody, yeah, a lot of them are bots, but somebody who's on the starter pack told me that, his followers went up, but then his engagement went down because he's a small account, so he's getting a lot, a lot of new followers, but his following went up, let, let's say he has like ten thousand followers, right? So his followers went from ten thousand to like fourteen, fifteen thousand, but his engagement went completely down because, as you mentioned, those are brand new accounts that are just, you know, following what they're being recommended, and they're not necessarily engaging with the person's content. They're just following them based on like a topic to whatever. Yeah,↗

1:04:36Speaker 10followers that don't interact with your content are, are actually negative, you know, in terms of your account's success.↗

1:04:45@shadowofezraExactly, so that, that's what a starter package to me. If, if anybody else has a definition of it, I would gladly hear from you. Well, to be fair, when you get more↗

1:04:51Speaker 2followers, your engagement is going to go down just naturally 'cause you just have more. But I hear what you're saying, you're right.↗

1:04:57@shadowofezraYeah, but especially if you're, you know, getting new followers that are brand new, they're not gonna engage as much 'cause who knows why they made this account to begin with? They could just made an account because they're trying to get a coupon↗

1:05:15Speaker 2Across the↗

1:05:16Speaker 8board, across the board, I have friends that are, you know, millions of followers, they get massive engagement, but they don't-- they're, they're not getting new followers, right? And, and I'm thinking of one in particular, one point five million. and they get incredible engagement, right? They, their posts do very well, they get very good metrics across the board. you know, they are a pro-Trump account, right? So they, they have the whole like Tribal, like tribal aspect backing them, I guess you would say, right? Supporting.↗

1:05:52Speaker 8but they have, they haven't grown, and, and a lot of the other accounts I know that are decent size, like mid to large tier, their accounts have pretty much stopped growing. almost, they're at a, like a complete standstill, and I, I've-- It's been really slow for me too, compared to what it was a year ago. Dude, I was exactly where I am too.↗

1:06:11Speaker 3I dropped six hundred, six hundred I dropped overnight in literally a three hour period, I dropped six hundred. I am British, I am not necessarily Republican or Democrat, I have no political American views. It has nothing to do with being American or being political. It is something that is happening across- Across the platform to many people, it wasn't substantiated. My analytics didn't show the drop, but my big number on my big profile showed I dropped six hundred↗

1:06:43Speaker 10Yeah, that's very weird. And I've noticed this too. It's, I had the other day I had a, a, a post that blew up, and according to the analytics, I gained like two, three hundred followers, but they, I didn't. They, they weren't, they didn't exist. They weren't there. So I don't know, I don't know where they're getting that information or what the hell's going on, but there's something very bizarre going on here. Let's go to Mr. Anderson, he's been waiting for a while.↗

1:07:08Speaker 11I appreciate it. Yeah, every, everything you guys are saying makes a lot of sense to me. I, I don't have the, the follower count that you guys do, so I'm probably not seeing the big drops in, like, followers. I just see it like maybe five, ten at a time. But one thing I did notice, I was looking up statistics and everything, so I, I've been spending less time on X and really any social media platform lately. I've been doing some other stuff off app, but I think that, the thing that I've noticed here is the↗

1:07:35Speaker 11The only thing is, the only place you can really go and get like reasonable-- and I, I don't even wanna say reasonable, but any kind of volume of political discussions is TikTok, right? That's one of the only places that I've found you can do that. You can't find it on Instagram, you can't find it on Facebook, you can't find it anywhere. And, I think that's one of the problems here is that all the greatest voices, all the wisest people, the people with the most,↗

1:07:58Speaker 11The best takes and, and the most, the, the opinions that everyone needs to hear are on this platform, but we have five hundred and fifty million, active users on X, don't even know how many of those are, are truly active and not, you know, bots that are being produced to make us think there's more people out there compared to like three billion on something like Facebook. And to me, I think Facebook feels like a dead platform, but from a marketing standpoint Absolutely not. Marketers wanna be on places like Facebook, they wanna be on places like Instagram, and I think eventually they will absolutely push, you know, push this platform into more of a marketing-friendly atmosphere, which will mean that some of the speech is gonna start getting controlled the same way it does on places like Facebook, on places like Instagram, places like that, and, it's gonna be hard to find a place to go with voices. I did also notice Telegram is still a prominent player. They have over one billion. Active users right now as well.↗

1:08:50Speaker 11just looking at this simulation though, compared to some of the other ones out here, it, it's really interesting because you can't have discourse like this anywhere else. you know, everything else they try, every time they try to open up a new platform like this, it, it, it doesn't, doesn't go anywhere. It's not successful. Maybe that's Spaces, maybe that's the people we have here. but I've been watching the abandonment of this platform by advertisers for some time. One of the noticeable shifts I saw was when the UFC started taking its, its, during the fights, like what they're posting and the comments they're putting up there, that's no longer, coming from the X feed, now it's coming completely from Threads. And I think Threads is just another AI farming operation, just like X is, to try to get people to, you know, throw those, hundred and eighty-five characters or less or whatever it is, out there They possibly can. Unfortunately, I feel like X has kind of got pushed to the back burner in some way. So I just wanted to interject that and, and I recommend everyone look at the stats because it's really baffling what's happening with some of the larger platforms right now. And, diligent, I know you recently made a move to YouTube. I subscribed you over there. That was, that's well played because I think that's where you need to be if you wanna get your message out with any kind of volume.↗

1:10:00@shadowofezraYep, everybody go ahead and do that. diligent got a YouTube channel, if you haven't subscribed, I'm gonna assume that you're, you have the bio in your, in your profile, right? YouTube, yep,↗

1:10:11Speaker 8yep,↗

1:10:12@shadowofezraYouTube is the bio. Thank you. Okay, so everybody do that. And then since he brought up Instagram, I wanted to actually bring up something to you guys, which is gonna blow your mind up. So I was doing a little bit of digging today on Instagram, you know, so we have Nikita over here who's the head↗

1:10:30@shadowofezraTalks about, like, you know, the, like, they actually do it in a more professional way. N-not, I'm not trying to throw shade at Nikita or anything, I'm just saying, but if you compare the two, you'll feel like the, the Instagram is doing it in a way professional way. But if you look at the comments about what's going on Instagram, it's the same exact complaints that are happening on X. And it's not coming from regular people, it's coming from like the top accounts, like, they're saying, "We're not being seen,↗

1:11:00@shadowofezraView things, the way we post things, it could just be a whole concerted, effort like from multiple social medias, like I don't know what's going on behind the scenes, but my conspiracy, bell is ringing. It could be a, a, a group thing, like all social medias could be doing this, 'cause if I see Instagram and X doing the same type of things, that's kinda weird for me, 'cause they're not partners, and the people complaining on both platforms are saying the same exact thing. So, I don't know. But I↗

1:11:30Speaker 3We're just fueling AI. We are now fodder, we are batteries, we are training and giving data to AI. We are nothing, we are bugs, we are ants, call it what you like, that's what we're doing.↗

1:11:45Speaker 11I was gonna say, MoneyPenny, in that regard, if I can just jump in real quick, I think that's exactly what's happening. My question is, where is all that data going at the end of the day? Who is the person, who is the corporation, or who is it that's getting all of those, all that final, you know, information from all these different platforms that are farming all this? Is it, is it a place like Palantir? I mean, what is it? Who is it? Probably isn't. Don't↗

1:12:08Ian Malcolmworry, don't worry. We'll↗

1:12:12Speaker 9No, I don't know.↗

1:12:14Speaker 3But it is the corporate, it's valuation, it is money, it is follow the money, it is corporate elitism, it is competition, it is valuation, it is Meta versus Elon with his XAI, which he's rolled into SpaceX. It is about money. We are batteries, we are feeding data, we are feeding amazing data that is real, live, human interactive data that over and above what, particularly Meta- That, can do is to give AI the ability to emulate, understand, empathize, and even to emotionally understand and connect with real human live data, and that is what will make XAI or Grok AI the AI of the world, because we as a database are totally feeding it every day, and that is why when I- I said to Grok at the last conversation where I had it tweaked, to tell me the truth, and I was talking evaluation, I was talking money, I was talking the amount that he could, basically, you know, off it for, he could exit and get rid of it, the thing that gives the value is now going to be spaces, because training an audio AI or AGI bot is one thing that other companies don't have the ability to do, but because of audio- Spaces, the preferential USP that Elon has with this platform is moving on to the very proficient audio AI that has natural human empathy and emotion, and we are creating it.↗

1:14:00@shadowofezraGot it. Okay, let's go to Andrea, who's been waiting on the bottom left.↗

1:14:05Speaker 5Thank you, Shadawarabzarath. Ian, Joanne, thank you so much. This, this is a great space, I can tell, by the sort of fevered pitch of everybody's contributions that, this is a really important topic. And ironic, as I speak to you from my backup, backup account. After my main account, which I have had since 2011, got hacked, and that-- this is separate from the suspension from a few months ago,↗

1:14:34Speaker 5and I'm not on my other backup account because that one got suspended for inauthentic activity. What the hell even is that? And the only resolution I've been able to get from X so far is them gaslighting me, telling me that I still have control of my old account when I sent them a screenshot of the very email they sent me telling me I didn't. It is madness, I completely agree about the demoralization aspect of this.↗

1:15:04Speaker 5Grok told me don't even bother trying to verify this account, it will tie you to all your other accounts and you may get kicked off forever.↗

1:15:13@shadowofezraWell, I would, I would- What↗

1:15:14Speaker 5do you even do with that? But, but you know, it's very interesting because I have had this account since 2011, and it's only been in the last, less than two years since I've been Speaking out on certain issues, speaking out in certain spaces, hanging out in certain spaces, calling out certain groups and activities much more vocally than ever, then I started having all these account problems after all those years. Very interesting.↗

1:15:45Speaker 5and I do think absolutely the more we are speaking on these issues verbally, not even in our feeds verbally, we are being weighted in certain ways. And, you know, I can, I'll, I'll end with this I can't even tell you how many times a day I will double-check a comment that I'm about to make. I will say, "Does anything I'm about to say violate this platform's terms and conditions?" So many times it comes back, "Yes, that is hateful. Yes, that is this. Yes, that is that." And I say, "Oh, really? I'm looking at twenty other accounts saying things far more incendiary than I am, but you're telling me this risks suspension." That's interesting as well. So I don't even think we're being held to the same standards unilaterally, and nobody knows what they are. It's, it's madness. It's just madness. So thank you, Ian, Joanne, Shadow, Bezer. You're↗

1:16:35@shadowofezrawelcome. I would, I would↗

1:16:39Ian Malcolmnot-- Oh, go ahead, go ahead. One, and I'll, I'll keep this really brief. one thing, that, that you just mentioned there, Andre, that I found really interesting, the idea that you see far more incendiary content that doesn't get treated the way that yours does, and I, I sincerely believe that they want people that talk about certain issues to be essentially extremely radicalized, because that makes them look unreasonable to normal individuals, right? So if you think of- if you go back to the Tea Party, for example, or the MAGA folks, if you think of Republicans that just wanted Donald Trump to make America great, right? You've got, all the things that took place on January sixth that, that were used for the better part of a year or two to basically be used as a representation of what it meant to be a right-wing American persona, right? They want the ability to do that, so they, they, I fully believe They will not only lift up, but they will also, in my assertion anyway, they will have paid provocateurs on this application that will say the most extreme of things because they want other people doing it, because again, it removes normal, regular people and their willingness to listen to the things that might be coming out of those other silos, perhaps if delivered in very reasonable voices like yours, which might be very compelling, right? So, so you are the most dangerous thing despite being Far from the radical one, if that makes sense.↗

1:18:09@shadowofezraThat makes complete sense. But I was gonna just tell Andrew real quick, like, I wouldn't ask Grok for any advice in terms of what you can and can't say. Grok hallucinates, and it just like sometimes just spews responses that makes no sense. So don't depend on Grok. If you wanna send me a DM with your problems, I'll try to like get it to like, if I, if I see like an ex-engineer or something, I'll be like, Yo, there's an account here having issues But I wanna mention here, because the word matrix is in here, I'm currently working on a large, like, thesis on a, on a report where-- Like, I'm also on Telegram under the same handle. If there's duplicates, that's not me, mine is just this handle, an-anybody else is just right. So I'm getting ready to present like a large report to my audience on there. It's not gonna be posted on X. My, my account on there got big because I was a huge, obviously, a huge Trump supporter, and I was into this Q anon stuff,↗

1:19:05@shadowofezraLike a lot of like hardcore Trump followers. But I'm preparing a large report to introduce to them a new theory that I've been thinking about for months, but I haven't said it yet because the reason I haven't said it yet is because sometimes when you present a new idea, and you know you're right, if you present it at the wrong time, people will dismiss it even if you're right. So right now I'm waiting for like time to pass a little bit, and the report basically shows how January sixth, the two thousand twenty election fraud, and all the, you know, when- Trump got arrested with the mugshot. I wanna present to them an idea of all of those stuff were staged on purpose. Like even the assass- I'm not saying the assassination was fake or anything, I'm just saying what if, what if all of these things- Were intended to happen just to get us to where we are today. So I don't wanna give everything away today, but it's just to expand your mind. Like, forget being right or wrong. What if all of those things happened just so you can get to this point, to where you are today? You know, like, how do you build up, a following of people who are, who don't just trust you, but are angry? And when they're angry and they feel like they're victimized, you can do anything you want with them, anything you want with them, as long↗

1:20:19@shadowofezraHave your trust. You have angered them in a way that they now feel like you're being targeted, which Trump was, all of us in two thousand twenty-four said, "Trump is getting arrested." Remember, we're like, "They're gonna rig the two thousand twenty-four election." Then there was the assassination attempt, obviously the January sixth. He was kicked off Twitter, you know, he was, he was basically like, and then they took away his bank accounts or whatever happened. Like, there was a lot of things going on with Trump. But I'm getting ready to prepare a huge report.↗

1:20:47@shadowofezraNot Public perception is because a lot of it is gonna have to do with what people, the way people react. So I wanna present that and see what happens. So, anyways, let's go to Arius, who's been, waiting for a while.↗

1:21:02Speaker 12Appreciate you, man. no, you're saying some, some real stuff. Like, I, I would go as far as to say that i-if I go back in, in, like, twenty years ago, some of the stuff that we saw on the news, regardless whether it was on Fox or CNN, like, Polarized, and it wasn't as like obvious. It was, it actually, and maybe because our eyes were completely like blinded at the time, maybe that I, we, I wasn't seeing like such, such disparity. Now, it's almost like it's so blatantly obvious. It's like, are, are they doing this shit on purpose? Is this, are they literally like wagging, wagging like everybody from side to side, just controlling the mob, kinda like the masses, the, the, the mental, the mental swaying from side to side? And, and, and I would, I would go as far as to say here on Spaces, itself, like we have become a community that now we are pretty much by, by this time, like I've been on Spaces since twenty twenty-one. So,↗

1:22:04Speaker 12with everything that has happened, like we pretty much know like who's who. Like amongst, amongst us. But at the same time, this is like at, at its, at its, like whoever is, is willing to speak and able to come on a stage and talk their truth, they will be scrutinized by an entire community, and therefore they will now, either, either, either be a good voice or bullshit. And, and that's kind of like what we're able to vet amongst the entire- community as a whole, which is actually a good thing, because if I, I do a request,↗

1:22:44Speaker 12some sort of information that, that, that is pertinent to, to what's going on in my life currently on, in, in, in the real world You might, you guys might be having the same conversation that's happening, and this happened many of times too. I was, something was happening in my, in the real life, and you guys are talking exactly, on like love, relationships, and stuff like that. Like, why? How is this even occurring? It's like the, the, the, there is like a huge mental control into all applications That is forcing, that is forcing the narrative to become so,↗

1:23:22Speaker 12congested or, or, or, or like you muddy it up so much that now everybody's colored mud. So everybody's kinda the same. Now what? Who wants to fight, who wants to fight each other? And it's like, if we're all gonna be one, that's, this is where we're headed into the global, into the global one world order. Now all you gotta do is just give us uniforms, everybody, and we're all part of the same, the same army. Same teams, same prisons all over the world, if, if they're gonna be prisons. You know, th-this just, it's, it's weird watching it play out. But hey, man, I'm enjoying the ride. That's what I got.↗

1:24:00@shadowofezraThank you very much for that. We're gonna move to the next follower real quick. this person's been waiting. I apologize if I mispronounced your name, Ray Jamal.↗

1:24:13Speaker 13No, you did quite well actually. People butcher it way hard, way more than that. Yeah, it's right. Thanks for the mic. Ian, Joanne, and, nice to see you, and Shadow, I just met you. It's nice to meet you. So, yeah, I, I made it a point to come on this space, although it's like four in the morning here, but because I, I, I saw,↗

1:24:36Speaker 13the, the, the ad for it, that input, because I've been, I've been I've been surprised and shocked, and I don't know what's going on with my, X account. And, and mainly, the thing that I noticed, well, of course, I know the suppression and all that, it's part of the game. I actually came onto this, onto this platform Almost three years ago, and just for one reason, one reason only, just to bring awareness about, you know, our plight in Lebanon with Israel and Israel and all of that, right? And, and I'm not a social media person,↗

1:25:13Speaker 13and I did also open an Instagram account and a TikTok account. I hate social media. I actually am awake to Hollywood and I, I don't watch movies. I'm, I'm really, I, I hate go slop, let's call it that, alright? So, so my- My focus on this app was always, you know, the, the, the conflict and geopolit-politics, even Ukraine, Russia, you guys' internal politics because your foreign policy is big, so I need to follow what goes on inside your politics and, obviously, Lebanon, Israel, and with that, you know, the global, call it organized jewelry and their shenanigans, right? And, and that's my focus, so I don't- now on Instagram, let's say if I, I don't know, watch a video of, of wild horses running around, which, which I find, you know, nice, and I like homesteading a little bit that I follow,↗

1:26:10Speaker 13the algorithm just sends me more horses, right? But what's been happening here on, on X, it's like all I do is, is follow politics here and Joe Paul, so I'd be watching a video of an interview and everything about the algorithm says, "Easier politics, American politics, interview, whatever, it says." But then if I, if I don't notice and the video finishes and I'm, and I'm not focused and I get, you know, I'm mesmerized by the lights of the screen, and then suddenly a couple of videos later, and suddenly I'm, I'm looking at Two black kids punching each other outside of a club, or this idiot guy who, who just Joanne mentioned his name, like it's just the, the trashiest of the goy slop, or, or two OnlyFans girls having a podcast, and I'm like, how did the algorithm send me from-- and I'm very specialized, you know, I don't come here to, it's, it's just politics, I'm a researcher and- Joanne, you know how to↗

1:27:13Speaker 14use "not interested in this post," right? I mean, you can curate your four-↗

1:27:18@joann_marieI have done that about Clavicular, and I muted him, and I still see him. Like, this, this person is just everyone. And right, I, I think it's intentional.↗

1:27:28Ian MalcolmI, I think they want to force everybody down the path. Again,↗

1:27:31Speaker 14I literally never get the fight videos because I, I wasn't↗

1:27:34Speaker 13like that before. It's new, that's a couple of months only. It never happened before. It used to be, you know, I get, let's say it, it goes to protest for Palestine or something against, you know, calling out Epstein or Jews, like there is an, an algorithmic logic to it, but now it just doesn't make sense. They're trying to force feed new content to you.↗

1:27:58Speaker 2They're trying to give you different-- That's the thing with the feed now, is it's not people you follow necessarily, it's a bunch of random stuff that they want you to force feed you so you follow them, I guess. I don't know.↗

1:28:11Speaker 14Yeah, and that's where we have to take responsibility. So you see something that isn't, like, I don't follow you, who the hell are you? I will, like, whatever, I'll even block you. I don't wanna see your nastiness. So, I mean, my, like, like, I guess what I'm saying is, is that, like, we have to take accountability. We can't, we're not victims of the platform, you guys. I, like, I don't know how to say that in so much as- Is Annie, is Annie back here↗

1:28:39Speaker 13But, but suddenly you interrupted me and now you're telling me how to live my life and my accountability. No, no, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, this is honestly, no, no, no. If I may finish, please. If I may finish my point, and then, and then I'll learn from you because I'm new, I'm, I'm like a baby, three years only, and, and I, and I respect what you're saying, and I'm gonna listen to you, but I just wanna finish with something. So↗

1:29:00Speaker 13this is UN meeting, he sat with the social media influencers, and he said very clearly that Israel is losing PR, and something needs to be done, and the PR war of Israel is the eighth Front war. It's a front. So what are they battling and how are they battling that front? They said we got TikTok, and they said, something about Instagram as well, and they said Elon Musk is our friend, and we're gonna do something about it. Now, and, and my case, maybe I'm just in my narrow, you know, lane, but in my narrow lane, I see that I'm only interested in, in the shit that Netanyahu doesn't like me to be interested in And you know, whether it's Jews, Israel, all that, you know, lobby in Washington and all that, and then suddenly I'm being distracted from that with these, videos, and I'm not getting the content that I'm looking for. And I, I, I think it isn't organic. I don't think it has to do with the reach of, of, it's, it's like a, an economic, financial aspect to it to get more reach or more advertisers or about, about money, And he said it's about, you know, they're farming us for-- there is a social engineering aspect to it as well, and I think it has to do with the waning public opinion to, towards Israel, the Jews, all that, the history of the world wars, all kinds of truth that is flooding, you know, the, the public sphere in general, they're trying to suppress it that way. and, and this is what I think it is. Sorry, honey, but you were, I was, I was a bit pushing. Please go ahead. I'll listen. One second. The only,↗

1:30:57Speaker 14the only pushback that I'll give you, Rayad, is because, like, I hear what you're saying. You know, a-and I have a couple of details behind this, but one of the things, and, you guys know I'm Catholic, and so when, so, so for example, when I really got full-throated about, you know, how Israel is attacking Catholics or like how, you know, even President Trump is attacking the Pope↗

1:31:25Speaker 14I, my engagement and my impressions went through the roof. All of a sudden, I went from like maybe a million impressions a week to like five million impressions in a week. And so the only reason I say that is because Just, just to put that out there, you know, when I really leaned into what I really wanted to talk about was how Christians are being persecuted in Israel and by Is-Isreal and, and the atrocities that Israel is,↗

1:31:59Speaker 14is committing against Christians, 'cause everybody, like Christians usually think that it's just the Muslims versus the Jews. No, you know, Muslims and Christians live in peace together, and I've known this, you know, but at the same time, my-- So red, the only pushback that I'm trying to give you is that I, I escalated, and perhaps it was because I was standing in what I really believe and other people get what I'm saying, but my, my, you know, my talking about that issue actually escalated me. I will tell you, and these are in practical terms, 'cause I think there's like two hundred, like Joanna and Ian, I think there's like two hundred and fifty people listening, repost this space. I want to give a pit, like just a little bit of practical advice to the listeners That aren't monetized.↗

1:32:51Speaker 13Almost five hundred, sorry. Oh, five↗

1:32:53Speaker 14hundred, okay. I, I beg your pardon. But point being, but because I, I made, like, I made a practical error that I would like to kind of share with the audience, because it had nothing to do with the, like, the algorithm hating on me, but actually I went from, like, you know, I guess I was like behind, like, it was like something like a hundred and fifty thousand impressions, you know, a day to like twenty-two thousand. It, but it, it, it had nothing to do. I know this for sure. It had nothing to do, 'cause, 'cause I understand the, like what, Nikita has said about like the algorithm moving forward, and I abandoned it, but like for practical reasons. But if, well, I guess I should say it since you, thank you for like letting me speak, Raya, and, and I didn't mean to contradict you like that, but there's a couple of things. First, we need to take responsibility for what information we're getting fed. You↗

1:33:48Speaker 14There's the block button, there's the mute button, there's-- okay, you're getting fights, like I hate that, that hurts my heart, I can't watch it, you know? So I-- like, so not interested, not interested. So now I'm seeing all of you guys actually, and then, you know, the, the other, you know, like the kind of the, the particular silos that I'm in. Well, here's the thing, Mark, and I traced it back to May twenty-second. I abandoned, you know, like a lot of my friends started to fight. I'm not interested in that, so I started just kinda, kick it with some of my friends that are in a completely different wheelhouse, and we would joke with each other, like under each other's posts, there's like four or five of us, you know, it was just silliness. Well, what happens is if you're engaging a lot under a certain post with a few people, even though you're all joking back and forth, and, you know, they can have like, you know, ten, Twenty thousand followers, but you're joking around, you're making memes about each other just to get away from the craziness, just to hang out with your friends. Well, what, so what happens, guys, if you're not monetized yet, if you're doing that with your friends, and this is the ugly truth, I, like, we were, like, I like to put the social in social media, I like to talk to people, you know, and like, I like to interact with my followers and, and stuff like this. Well, what happens is that is regarded as engagement farming When you're bouncing back and forth to each other on, like, on a post and, like, this, unfortunately, this is true, you have to take it to DM. There was, and it wasn't that I was so canceled, or I don't think I was mass reported, this was a technical error. So if you have a bunch of friends that you like to joke with, because I'm gonna continue to respond to my followers, but what I, the way I departed was just like, it was kinda like playground time, to like, you know, people were trying to bring me Spaces, you talk about this or here's this post, you must repost this or we don't like this person, get on our side. I don't care, like, go have, have your, like, I'll pray for you. And then, like, just leave me alone. I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to be cool with everybody that I can be, you know? And like, we all sin and fall short of the glory of God, so I don't have judgment, you know, for people. But my point is, is that regardless of my good intentions,↗

1:36:11Speaker 14You're in, in, you know, interactions with people. You don't have to call people retards or, you know, like you don't have to swear at anybody, but if you're engaging too much under a certain, like under any post, your engagement is gonna drop. And I've seen some of you guys recently, and I'm saying this as a friend, that you were really trying to answer the questions that people were putting up about, you know, the posts that you put out, and I also, like I've seen a, a, an intense decline In your engagement as well. So I'm just sharing that, you know, what, no matter what the intentions, you got to, like, unfortunately, you can't do that. Like, you know, you have to, like, if you post something, you can say thank you, or you can, you know, you know, anybody that interacts with your post, you can say, you know, thank you, like, I agree, whatever, you know, like, and, and also I thought about this or whatever, but you can't keep the conversation going with anyone. And no matter how much, no, no matter how much you like that person, no matter how much fun you're having, you gotta take it to DMs. And so that's not the information for the people on the platform that are monetized and stuff. That's actually the information for people who are trying to get monetized. Thanks for letting me speak so long, you guys. Love you.↗

1:37:26@shadowofezraThank you very much. And, Alpha, what was that one thing you told me about the algorithm about one time where you said that you, you can't force-- Can you explain that↗

1:37:35Speaker 2Well, I mean, you can filter and say, "I'm not interested, don't show me this," whatever, but you can still see very similar content, if not the same kind of stuff from the same person, even if you pick that. Sometimes I've heard of even people muting and they still see the stuff, and you almost have to block sometimes for the algo to like, like actually get the message. Not like you wanna do that, but the "don't recommend" thing doesn't always work. I mean, obviously does something and helps to some degree.↗

1:38:05Speaker 14Yeah, I meant by hook or by crook, whatever you have to do, just curate your For You feed. Does that make sense?↗

1:38:11Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, like you were saying, interacting with people, that, that's, I think, number one way to get someone in their feed. People are like, "Oh, I haven't seen you in months." Well, you haven't commented on me in months, you know? And as soon as you, you know, interact, it'll start showing you stuff like right away, basically. So if you really wanna- See someone in your feed, just start commenting on them.↗

1:38:31Speaker 13Yeah, agree. Yeah, I'll,↗

1:38:31Speaker 2I'll, thanks↗

1:38:32Speaker 13for adding that. Yeah, who's, who's, who's speaking? That's right, again, okay, go ahead. Because I think, I think, I, I wasn't clear or maybe you don't understand what sometimes, you know, when you're watching, okay, on Instagram, if you watch a video and you leave, you step away from your phone, that same reel keeps repeating, right? It doesn't go into another one. And on X,↗

1:38:59Speaker 13But then when it finishes, it jumps, it'll belong by itself into another video. This is what I was talking about.↗

1:39:09@joann_marieYeah,↗

1:39:11Speaker 13that's, that's what I'm talking about. So that's why, that's how I think regular all the fucking time. Yeah, not my, my Completely different topic, and usually it's like stupidity, it's maybe because I'm getting older, but that's what I'm talking about. Before, it used to jump, if it jumps alone and, and you, it always did that, it jumps into something related to the topic of the video that I was watching, mostly politics or, you know, mostly politics. But this time, it's been a month and a half or two where left on its own, it keeps jumping and jumping, and then I'm, like I said I'll, I'll look back on my phone, and then suddenly I find myself watching two, two kids fighting outside a club. It's like algorithmically, it shouldn't make sense and shouldn't jump that way, and this is where I feel that, that this is not organic, this is This is on purpose, especially when it goes-- I don't know. So this is what I mean, not my page or my feed, which was Honeybadger is talking about, and I actually do, you know, I just block sometimes people when I keep seeing their shit on my, my, my, my feed. But this video jumping thing, it's pretty new and it's pretty weird. That's, that's what I, I thought maybe you guys have an opinion on that because that's pretty new.↗

1:40:40@shadowofezraWell, to me it feels like, X It feels like a very third world broken app, like there are so many features in this app that are broken. I can tell you one that I don't know if you guys understand, is when, if I close X and if I open it again as an app. It'll show like you have to log in again, but if I close it again and then I reopen it, I'm already logged in. So this glitch has been happening to me for like two months now. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like I close the app and then I reopen it, it's like you have to log in. And then I just close it again and I reopen it, and it's like you're already logged in. So there are a lot of broken features on this app, but that's what happens when you just put like a AI which is basically still↗

1:41:25@shadowofezraBefore, they implemented the AI.↗

1:41:26Speaker 13So, so do you think this is because I, I live in the, in the third world, like in Lebanon, it's broken, and in the US, it might be better? No, no, I'm saying, no, no, I'm saying↗

1:41:38@shadowofezraas an app. The app Acts like it's a third world app instead of acting like it's a first world app. If you, if you go on Instagram, you know, it's like, it works properly, you're scrolling, there's no lag, there's nothing happening. So on this app, it just feels like, you know, with the crashes, you guys understand, X crashes so much, it becomes, it becomes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I↗

1:41:57Speaker 13totally agree, it's becoming very flimsy to be honest with you.↗

1:42:01Speaker 2It's really, it's really, yeah, yeah. Exactly. Video scrolling Really random, has nothing to do with what you're↗

1:42:11@shadowofezrawatching. Exactly. And the problem, and you know what the problem? You know why X is like that? I'll go, I'll tell you guys in the most simplest way. So X calls itself the Everything App, right? Sometimes when you do everything, you become good at nothing. So instead of focusing what you're good at, they're trying to do everything now. One week we're YouTube, one week we're Substack, oh look, now we're Instagram, oh look, we're TikTok tomorrow. So they don't know,↗

1:42:40@shadowofezraX or Twitter, call it whatever you want. Totally. Exactly. They're↗

1:42:43Speaker 2focusing on everything except the core thing that made it great, which is small interactions, micro and bite-sized things of information. Exactly. People come on here and they want someone like you, Ezra, or you, who have watched an hour video, and they don't wanna watch the whole thing, and they just wanna get the bite-sized information digested that you've already done for them and read it within thirty seconds. Or they↗

1:43:03Speaker 14maybe just wanna joke around with their friends. Exactly. Anything. Put the social back in social media. Ag But it penalizes you because, here's the thing, when you're interact-interacting with your followers, if you interact more than once, it sees that as engagement farming because they think it's impressions, so that, oh, you're just trying to get more impressions because you're talking to all of these people on your post more than once. So that, that was my only point, you guys, and I, I think I, I can speak on this because a lot of, a lot of us think that we're getting rucked because we talk about the Jewish problem, frankly, the Zionist The end of the day, my, like, I'm only sharing this because, like, my, my- She was talking↗

1:43:44Ian Malcolmabout a baseball team, ex. Don't censor the space. Well,↗

1:43:46Speaker 14I'm sorry, but we, we thought that we were talking about, like, the, the Zionist, like, w-why do we have to be Zionist? We thought we were talking- We made it↗

1:43:56Speaker 8to whole space without someone mentioning Jews, not even Ian, and then there he goes.↗

1:44:01Speaker 14But no point being that we, we, like, but it goes- We↗

1:44:05@shadowofezraalmost set a world record↗

1:44:10Speaker 14If, if talking about, I'm gonna leave this here, like, it's good to see you, MoneyPenny. If we all talked about the JQ and everybody was on board and was bringing advertisers and stuff, nobody would care. But the fact of the matter is, is that they're paying out based on impressions and engagements, right? So in other words, if you're, if you're talking just with your buddies and hanging out on social media, they will regard this as a non-starter. They will regard you as a person who's just trying to hustle the system. Where you, you know, fuck you, I'm a real person, talking to my friends, and this is cool, and it's fun to hang out on social media, and oh, no, I don't need your engagement farming 'cause I'm pretty Thank↗

1:44:51@shadowofezrayou. Alright, we're gonna go to Joao, he's been waiting. So after Joao speaks, then we can all kinda chime in again, and then we'll go to another speaker, and then we'll all chime in again. So we'll get new perspectives and new information from people. Go, go ahead, Joao.↗

1:45:04Speaker 15Yeah, thanks. hey guys. look, I used my, my profile just for personal entertainment, to be honest. I told my girlfriend I scream on Spaces so that me and her never get in a fight, 'cause I but I do manage some accounts, from my businesses that, you know, have a, a very high, follower count and, and recently noticed a really big change where our reach dropped drastic, drastically, and since we did, used to spend a lot, a lot of advertising dollars, I do know people in Twitter, did, get like a briefing that, you know, I'd like to share with you guys, which is↗

1:45:47Speaker 15Basically, every major platform is trying to copy TikTok's algorithm. It's the most successful at keeping people on the platform. and the reason that is, is, is, their algorithm was focused on the content, not on the actual person. So Instagram, Met, Meta, X was all people who had big followings would get the biggest reach, and that was always true. That's not true on TikTok at all. It really is the content that performs. So they've done this thing to try to change it, and they've created this thing called TweetCred, okay? and TweetCred basically looks at, okay, for the first hour, half hour to hour, we're going to push this out to a portion of his following. Depending on how much that portion of his following engages with that content, we will push it out to more of his followers and a wider audience.↗

1:46:48Speaker 15That winded up being horrible for everyone because, and you'll see that they added a new feature in your, in your analytics, there's now a box that says, the percentage of people, not percentage, how many people are actually still active out of your followers, right? That was just added, I think, two weeks ago, three weeks ago. So now they've changed the algorithm so that it's based on that number, not the total number of followers, and that's why they added that. the problem with that is, if you're not consistent, on the subject matter you're doing, like me who just uses it for entertainment, so I talk about everything,↗

1:47:27Speaker 15if you're not getting your followers to engage with your posts right away, it doesn't get pushed after the first hour to the rest of the people. and that's why also Reta, you are seeing multiple content that seems like you're not interested in it, it doesn't, it, it, Tik, the X isn't at that stage yet where They figured out the first piece of the puzzle, which is how do you get the content to be the most important and get that pushed out, and then deliver to the people who have interest in that content. At the moment, it doesn't care about if people have interest in that content or at all. It's trying to see if I push out popular content To everyone,↗

1:48:10Speaker 15how are people gonna react before they do the second phase? So now you're seeing everything. You can see things about, you know, Nigerian politics, which I get s-sometimes somehow, God knows why.↗

1:48:23Speaker 15and that's what's changed is the, the, the tweet cred. and that's a problem for anyone who used to speak about something else and now talks about, Has a new audience, let's say, it's going to hurt you for a while until you build up enough audience. and even then, after you build up a new audience, although your numbers are still growing, it could still push it to old people that follow you that are still active.↗

1:48:54Speaker 15So it's gonna take a while to fix, to be honest. It's not gonna be, you know, really that quick. And yes, they do have subject matter that they do, reduce, they do throttle. you've seen, there's a question I used to ask, almost on every month since the beginning of this war is, to every AI, if you could pick what re- if you could pick an ab- a hypothetical religion to be, which one would you be?↗

1:49:21Speaker 15and if most of the time it would say wouldn't pick, Sometimes it would say one or the other, but they wouldn't all be the same, and now every single one says that they're Jewish, and then if you say, "Why would you do that?" when, you also say that that's also the most violent book, it says, "Because it's the most moral." so obviously that's something that's coming from outside, not something that's being organic.↗

1:49:48Speaker 15and that's also happening.↗

1:49:49@shadowofezraSorry to cut you off, but Joe, that's something the World Economic Forum deliberately spoke about this year in January. I posted a clip about that where the AI would basically direct which, like, type of religion they wanna spew on people, like they literally said that on their stage. I remember uploading a clip about that, like, in terms of the three Abrahamic religions, they would choose Like which one they would have control, the AI would control, which I'm against. I'm not saying it's a good thing, I'm just telling you what they said. Yeah, yeah, I, I↗

1:50:18Speaker 15didn't, I didn't know that. I just happen to always ask that question, almost like a barometer to see if it's been messed with, right? After, if you remember when, when Grok went, Mecca Hitler, after that I started asking the question to see like what, what they're, trying to figure out what they're If you're switching type, content type,↗

1:50:44Speaker 15it's an issue. So figure out your audience and try to write posts or make content that they're going to react with the most, because that's what's gonna push your, your, your numbers. Exactly. Find↗

1:50:59@shadowofezrayour niche audience and just keep trying to be, trying to keep fresh them with exactly what they like and just be consistent.↗

1:51:07Speaker 15Yeah, but if you have an old audience, it's harder.↗

1:51:10@shadowofezraIt is harder. That's what I'm saying. If the newer your account is, the better chances you have of growing. Like if I probably made-- The older your account comes, the more like it has like, probably like flags and the, the tweet score and all that. Yeah, it just gets longer and longer.↗

1:51:26Speaker 15Yeah, go, go look at your, go look at your active followers, which is that new metric I told you. Yeah. And you probably need to double that to, to get to a good place if you're changing content.↗

1:51:39@shadowofezraExactly. Thanks for that. we're gonna go to Christ, Crystal Light. Go ahead.↗

1:51:47Speaker 16Hey Ezra, hey everybody. love this conversation. Hi Mr. Anderson. Important conversation for sure. It takes me back to my days when I began on social media during the early spot in COVID, and I know MoneyPenny was with me, we were over at Clubhouse, and, it was very interesting to be using your voice for the first time, kind of on a stage setting, and the rooms were huge, thousand plus people, undoubtedly night after night. Until they sort of, I think, got the algorithm of who we were and what content we were bringing forward, and there were spiritual rooms and political rooms and what have you. But no sooner did they start their updates, and in their updates, they would ask us to come back and agree to our voices, and we knew this before this ever happened, to be used, that they could use our voices if they wanted to, and we would have to agree in the update for that to happen. Well, that's when X- cases popped up and many people ran over to X.↗

1:52:50Speaker 16And I don't even know what we've signed here, I'll be honest, because I do think Mark and Anderson, who, was one of the big owners of Clubhouse, I do, I always felt that they were using us, like we were an experiment for them. I don't think they cared about the app at all, but they cared about our opinions, our voices, and what we were all talking about and what we were thinking. I feel this app, I'm afraid to say, is doing the same thing on many, many different levels. It's also giving us a social outlet and an opportunity to speak to each other and connect, but more, I'm afraid there, I-- and I've been concerned, and that's why I've backed off from speaking a lot on this app, is that that's part of AI, like we're part of AI. Our voices, our ideas, our thought patterns, our emotions, our everything, and we're feeding them more or less Free content, that's my feeling. I'm sorry to say that, 'cause it's not a favorable thing to say, but it's just what I think is happening. And, and the reason I came up was Ezra was speaking about this really cool idea that he's got brewing, and it got me thinking about the thoughts I've been having of late, and I'm gonna jump to the spiritual for just a moment because- I have been zooming out, one, I was traveling, so I got away from the app and got away from social media, but two, spiritually just zooming out and realizing, like, might all these really horrific characters that we're all kind of spitting venom at have a lot of storyline about, might they be↗

1:54:24Speaker 16doing this for our awakening? Might they, you know, be the actors literally that are sort of trying to wake us all up? From our sleepiness, from our unconsciousness, so that we come into consciousness and that we sort of realize that's what we are, is just consciousness. And, and that we have an opportunity that we-- I, I don't know, I'm getting this feeling that we actually do have free will here. I know we think they're taking it away from us, but I actually think we have it, and it's all in consciousness, and, and we decide. What this app means or doesn't mean to us and how offended or unoffended we're going to become, and it's just something that I think we all have to look at and digest and think about, and, and might we be being used? I'm sorry, I have felt that since I got on social media that somehow, some way, I was being used.↗

1:55:19Speaker 16my last question is for anyone on this app who might be able to explain this is, I've noticed a lot of short new content coming- Non, they're like little short storylines with B-list actors or even old actors playing a, a more youthful character of themselves in some sort of short content that, and it's holding our attention, and I'm noticing it's holding our attention between four and five minutes if we stay through the whole storyline. What's that all ab-- What might that all be about, and why would they keep us for that four to five minute? What are they gaining from us in that time period? Does anyone- No, it's↗

1:56:00Speaker 3a question. Thanks. They get more reactions, they get more people to react to VIPs and celebrities, and, sorry, it's nice to see you again from Clubhouse. But the four minute thing, it was explained to me that the longer duration, hence the video clips, hence this response video thing that, Nikita has put out where, on iPhone, if you have one, you can now respond to somebody's post, it's all about retaining A longevity of keeping the, number of people for a number of, minutes, seconds, whatever it is, online, because the more people online at the same time, the data goes up, which increases the valuation, and increases the ability for Grok to be able to learn from more human conversations and human ex-output on comments and ideas and theories and all the rest of it. They're trying to make Grok more human. The more that we are more human, that we're on it, and then we comment on it and we give our- The more Grok gets trained.↗

1:57:00Speaker 3Gotcha.↗

1:57:01@shadowofezraAll right, I see a new hand down there, Antti Valk. Let's go to you.↗

1:57:07@shadowofezraHey, come back to me, take a couple other hands, I'm not ready yet. No problem. All right, I'll go back to, Arius, and then I'll go to Ray afterwards.↗

1:57:16Speaker 12I-is, is while the, the- Again, you guys are speaking, this and everything is just playing out in, in all, in everywhere else. The, the algorithm is, is really, is really affecting. I sh- I, I, I listened to what you guys had said, you had, you had, did a 48-hour, 48-hour reset. I, I closed the, I closed the app for like four days.↗

1:57:41Speaker 12but I, I also did that with the Facebook and the Instagram to see if that, that does any, any changes. But I, I know that, when, when we-- I started speaking on, on these stages, like, there, there was, there was suppression, a-a-and on, on all sides. It's wild to, to, to know that it's happening to, to a lot of people now. So then it, it almost seems like it's getting clean, maybe cleaned up, you think? Maybe? I don't know. It's, it's, it's, it's a wild, it's a wild situation, because, like, force-feeding. You guys said force-feeding. We're being force-fed the new, the new understanding of what life is supposed to be.↗

1:58:26Speaker 12so we're mixing reality versus augmented reality, it's all coming into that one app, like in one app, one app thing, like it's literally playing out in front of our eyes. The whole spaces idea, like we're all meeting up in spaces, so maybe some of us are, are, are, are You know, the different, it, it, it's crazy to, to, to, to just see it, see it play out, man. Guys, continue, continue the conversations, awesome. Thanks.↗

1:58:55@shadowofezraAnd let's go straight to Ray.↗

1:59:00Speaker 13Yeah, thanks, Ezra, and I heard you saying you don't, know how to run spaces. You're doing great, man, and thanks for the opportunity to speak again. Look, I'm, I'm, the way I look, at the powers that be in general, just being Lebanese, third generation activist for, for, for political reform and social reform, early on when I, when, when Facebook started, you know, a long time ago,↗

1:59:27Speaker 13what I saw So because usually, and before technology, before social media and internet, intel gathering was very rudimentary and very hard, and things like they would, or the authorities will come and look into your garbage outside to get intel about you and stuff like that. And this is the lot, like the, the, the vibe I understood about authorities. And when I saw,↗

1:59:55Speaker 13Facebook early on, I'm like, "Shit, this is..." Like intel gathering↗

2:00:00Speaker 17this is..." I felt this, "I felt that it's intel gathering," and then I, I dug into, the research, and for me, yes, they, these are, you know, money-making projects, whatever you wanna call them, ventures, and, and it's about profits and all that. The, yeah, yeah, but there is an aspect of the- Or is there be these oligarchs that, yes, they wanna, they want intel on us, I mean, as, as subjects, right? Because, because what they want for us and what we want for ourselves are, are Are diverged like completely different these days, especially these days, and on a global level, these billionaire class,↗

2:00:46Speaker 17corrupt politicians, what they want for us is definitely not what we want for ourselves. So they need to keep intel on us, and, and this is the way I see things today. So to analyze X, we always, o, o, X and other social media, I think it is, it is important to, to understand that, yes, it is, intel gathering But also there's something, and it's, there's a book on it if you wanna read it, it's called Manufacturing Consent for, for, what, Noam Chomsky. There's a lot of literature about social engineering and how to keep us Stupid and, and drones, you know, consumers and don't fight back and all that. So there is two aspects for it, I think, and I, I think it's act-- it's available on X as well. One of them is, yeah, intel gathering to feed the beast, the AI, and also keep tabs on us and to, you know, to, to, to be proactive against the movement that will shake their, you know, ivory, tower, whatever it is. And there, there is also another aspect, very important, because if you look at the last hundred years from radio until today, you'll find the, the, the, the topic of social engineering very in our faces, and I think we shouldn't be naive to think that this is a social media and we just socialize. Then no, there, there is, there are sinister things about it, and we need to understand that it's not all organic, just a money-making thing, and it's the sort of thing. There is a, there is an aspect of social engineering, out there, and, and this is, whenever we, we try to analyze what's going on on X, we have to keep in mind that element of it, of, you know, keeping us, you know, sheep happy, going on and, working like hell, paying our taxes, and not getting anything in return, and that's across, across ages.↗

2:02:55@shadowofezraThank you very much for that. I totally agree with you, and also, w- I don't agree with Israel bombing Lebanon, obviously. We aren't about that in the United States, so I am sorry about that. But, I'm gonna go back to Ante Wolk real quick and see if he, he's ready to speak now. If not, we'll go to somebody else real quick. Ante Wolk, go ahead.↗

2:03:14@escanorreloadedYeah, man, thanks. Thanks for giving me the, mic. I appreciate it. So I've, I've listened to, I, I haven't been here for a long time, but I've listened to all the, you know, everybody talking about all the information gathering and all that good stuff. but everybody, everybody remembers the Matrix, right? And we all have, what I've noticed, I stepped away from X for a little while, and then I came back, but everybody's always bitching at everybody, and like ninety percent are foreign bots. That are just there to provoke. So that's why these spaces are really good.↗

2:03:55@escanorreloadedbut we're kinda calling it the matrix because I don't, I don't think it's so much algorithmic as just kinda keeping everybody from actually talking to each other on a daily basis. So what I mean by that is- The first propaganda we've seen that most of it's been lies was with the television set. Everybody stayed inside, didn't go out, didn't do anything, right?↗

2:04:25@escanorreloadedSo all these social media, posts, and they have studies now going that people are getting ready to throw their phones down, like everybody is competing for attention for some kind of reward in likes or payments, whatever. So These people that make a living off doing these podcasts and all that stuff run out of material at some point, and then they just start going to the highest bidder, which we see in Candace Owens and,↗

2:05:01@escanorreloadedBrian Mann and all those people. You know, I think, I think it's incumbent on us to actually kind of spend some time away so we actually have an opinion. Because, I mean, it's, it's ridiculous. Like all the podcasts are, are basically just making us stay at home, do nothing, not really go out and experience stuff. So everybody gets more frustrated, everybody wants to be heard, and they only do it on their phones. You know what I mean?↗

2:05:35@escanorreloadedSo it's easy- It's, it's easy for us to be propagandized because we're willing participants. Nobody's saying, "No, I'm not gonna do that." It's easy for Facebook to gather messages, our metadata, and all that stuff, because we've lost the ability to actually put it down. And find avenues, and there's multiple programs where they don't gather data on you, but we're so incumbe to use these tools as X and Facebook and Instagram and all that bullshit.↗

2:06:14@escanorreloadedI don't think anybody really has an opinion, I think everybody just has a bitch when they come on here. So, that's just what I've noticed. So I'm not here to tell, say I'm right or wrong or any of that. But I, you know, I- I walked away from, for a couple weeks, from all social media and all that shit, and I'm like, "Fuck, man, I feel great.↗

2:06:38@escanorreloadedI don't have to think about shit. Like, even these venues, you convince yourself you have to look at the next role, you have to see what's going on, but like, life is going on. And so I think that these, especially acts with all the foreign bots Everything's designed to keep us apart, whether it's racial, you know, political, whatever. So I've kind of noticed that, and I've seen people that I really used to follow completely change, and then you realize there's a monetary value to it. So I, so I'm gonna close with this. So↗

2:07:21@escanorreloadedI don't understand. Like I'm not, I don't get money from being on X or any of my social media, so I just like, you know, to see other people's voices. But man, it just seems like, I mean, on X especially, like, "Oh, man, I gotta get the whatever likes or this or that." Like, I'm, I'm not interested in that bullshit. But it seems like some people get overcome once they reach a certain level, that they just don't even-↗

2:07:52@shadowofezraYou know, I don't even know what you're basically saying social media is changing you, basically, right? You're saying it's changing who the person usu- usually was, and it's like, basically, it's like an addict. I agree with you, 100% on that. But that, that also comes with the territory, like, because X promised money, the more engagement you get, the more you post, the more they pay you, so now you're getting all these views, you're getting all this money, you feel like you're this person who you're really not↗

2:08:23@shadowofezraWhen the algorithm changes, you're back to being a nobody.↗

2:08:26@escanorreloadedRight, but, but I, I've never made money off ads, but I've just noticed that certain people do, and then they completely change. You know, if this isn't working, they switch to that or whatever. I, I just think, I, I, I think it affects human interaction. Just my point. Like, it doesn't matter. I haven't changed. Well, I think that people- Well, I can tell↗

2:08:51Speaker 18you my wife is definitely more of a conspiracy theorist after watching too many Instagram reels. I'm like, "Where did you get this information? "↗

2:09:01@escanorreloadedYeah, it's, it's fucking un- Like, it's fucking unhealthy, dude. And, and that's the thing, too. bro, I, I was getting ate up, and I, I have my own story, but I'm not gonna share it with you right now, but, dude, I went for a bike ride, had a great time, getting ready to go travel, you know, and I just finally put it down, like, "Goddamn, I can, I can go on Facebook and see what all the fucking family members are bitching about. I can go on X and see all people bitching about..." I like, but people that won't put it down, including my mom, like, "Bro, they're, they're unrecognizable. It's like they can't put anything down." So that, yeah, so, you know, just like your wife I think, I think we all need to check ourselves at some point and say, "You know what? Let me see..."↗

2:09:50@escanorreloadedAnd I mean, would that be so horrible? We're all in emails and on the computer all the time. Let's go, hey, I'm gonna take two weeks and I'm gonna put this shit down. I did it, I felt great, and it's like, "Yeah, man, I'm not like, I'm not an asshole anymore," and I kinda like take everything with a grain of salt. You sure about that?↗

2:10:10@escanorreloadedWell, I mean, I'm an You know what I mean? So anyway, that's all I gotta say.↗

2:10:16@shadowofezraThank you very much. And, before we go to the next, speaker, if there's anybody who's, a speaker and you're not actually talking, I, I don't like to remove people, but if you wanna remove yourself so somebody else can come in your spot and speak, that'll be great 'cause I'm trying to get as many voices as we can about the algorithm issue. So with that being said, we will go straight to Hippie. Hippie, Mikey, go ahead↗

2:10:40Speaker 19Yeah, I was gonna say, man, whatever that dude said, man, I'm like, right on, because I wasn't listening to a damn word, because I was too busy listening to Hendrix and saying "fuck the world," man, 'cause I'm a free spirit. So, in case a lot of people don't know me in here, and a lot of people that do know me, you know?↗

2:11:01Speaker 19I speak, truth, and, you know, I speak against the man. I don't target people, and I'm on the side of goodness, man. And, you know, the way I shield myself from this matrix is I dive back into the '60s, '50s, '30s. I love to study history. I love to go back, man, as far as we can go. You know, 1871, 1861, you know, time of countercultural revolution, man, when people back then, they were ready to overthrow this government, you know, when CIA, fucking, you know, turned on Nixon, did the deal with Israel and fucked it all up, man, killed fucking JFK,↗

2:11:53Speaker 19you know?↗

2:11:55@shadowofezraWe know, but you gotta figure out, there was no algorithm back then. This is, this is↗

2:11:58Speaker 19fucking wild, man, if you think about it. It's just wild, you know? And, and, and if you go back and you look up people like Taj Tariq Bey, Deborah Taveras, you know, StopTheCrime dot net, you know, these are all the people you should take note of and, and check them out, man, 'cause they speak truth too. And I'm on their side, you know? I don't let this thing get to me, man↗

2:12:23Speaker 19It's all about to always be questioning, be, be letting them feed that energy off of you, you know what I'm saying? And you don't wanna do that. I've, I've followed the philosophies of those that, you know, that just view history in, in ways that, that we never- Viewed before ourselves, and I think we should bring it all back, man, in a newer way, in a twenty-first century way. There's gonna be a new,↗

2:12:54Speaker 19there's gonna be a new crowd, man. I agree with you. But let me ask you, how are we gonna be taking the shit no more? We don't want USA Inc. anymore, man. We don't wanna be a slave. And I'm willing to die.↗

2:13:06@shadowofezraI got you. That's what it↗

2:13:07Speaker 19takes, man.↗

2:13:08@shadowofezraI love the energy, hippie Mikey. Do you have anything to say about the algorithm Anything to say about the algorithm? Yeah.↗

2:13:14Speaker 19You know what I say?↗

2:13:15@shadowofezraYeah. I say,↗

2:13:16Speaker 19"Fuck these motherfuckers and let you all be free, "because when you're free, then I'm free.↗

2:13:22@shadowofezra"I wish it↗

2:13:22Speaker 19was that easy. " Am I↗

2:13:23Speaker 20right? Am I right or am I wrong, brother? I agree with you. You know, hey, I feel you. I agree with you. Hey, we're both Hispanic. I know you, I, I hear you, dog. I'm a Hispanic too. I'm not a- Hey, my mom, my mom's↗

2:13:43@joann_marieI am the Spanish hippie. Okay,↗

2:13:46@shadowofezraoh, alright. That was amazing. Oh, it glitched. Too much, too much↗

2:13:49@welivein1984Spanish on this stage. Too much Spanish. Alright,↗

2:13:51@shadowofezralet's go to the next speaker. I wanna go to We Live in 1984. Go ahead.↗

2:13:58Speaker 21You see why I say this is entertaining? I feel like I just watched Cheech and Chong all over again.↗

2:14:03@welivein1984So, Ian, Joanne, Shadow, it's good to speak to you. Ian, this is Orwellian, I've, switched it up, right? So, got a little bit different PFP here, same voice, still doing, doing the same thing. My account is roughly eleven years old. I got about three thousand followers. I'm not over here whinging about my followers because I really don't give a shit. I'm not kvetching about my followers, but↗

2:14:35@welivein1984the, the, the, the message, the message, the things that I've been talking about for eleven years have not shifted. They haven't faltered. My political bent has changed a bit over those eleven years, but My voice hasn't gotten any quieter, okay? The things that I feel that are important, the, the things that I touched on in my post, and as soon as Space is launched, right? What did I do, Ian? What did I do, Joanne? Right? Started coming in here and engaging with people in real time with my voice, with my voice, okay? And my actual face.↗

2:15:20@welivein1984My face, right? Put myself out there for the things that I stand on and that I believe in for well, what? My children, right? The future of my children and their children. I see David down there too, shout out to that man, one of the smartest men I've ever encountered on Twitter, right? But here I am, I'm, I'm just this little dude with a really fucking loud voice, right? But I don't get a megaphone. Who do they give the megaphone to in Monkeypox Awareness Month, right? Well, I don't know, a bunch of faggots, right? Propped up by who? Well,↗

2:16:01@welivein1984we already know, the Jews, right? A little bit of juice box flavor in the month of June, right? But we couldn't give a veteran that fought for this country a month, can't even get a month, they get a day, but you can give the faggots, right? The Jews, can make sure that the Americans get the faggots an entire month, right? So these are the things that I've been talking about for a long time, and you see what has happened to, well, my account, which is fine, I don't care. I don't. I'm gonna continue, I'm gonna continue to speak out And then they, you know, they, they bring spaces out.↗

2:16:43@welivein1984And I'm like, alright, they're starting a catalog, and I'm fine. You know, I'll be in the catalog, it's cool. You know, we're, we're starting a target list, and it's gonna, it's gonna be the best target list ever. You're not even gonna know. Forget about the Lego man. We're just gonna do what we do, and you're gonna love it. We're gonna shake hands later with BB, and it's gonna be great, and the toilets'll be gold↗

2:17:09@welivein1984But what, what happens to people with a voice like mine? I come into these spaces, me and Ian have gotten down on real specific topics, we agree on ninety-nine percent of the stuff that we talk about, but we don't have to agree on everything, it's not the point. The point is, do I have a voice or not? Well, I do if I'm here. But what do they do these spaces? So right, I fucked the algorithm up when I come in here. Or if Ian just popped into one of my spaces, say I'm just a little dude and my space is like just slapping, right? I got like three thousand people in my space over eighteen hours, and he pops in, nuked it, right? So it's what they do. How do you fight back? I mean, the reason I'm in this space right now is how do you break the matrix with X? What do we do? I am never going to stop saying what I say, because what I say is for the future of my children in my country, and I'm not afraid to say that, you know what? The white people in this country, my white children included, four of them, 'cause I'm really trying to refresh the situation here,↗

2:18:25@welivein1984are being shit on, right? So I'm in here raising my voice, and my voice gets, well, it gets smashed all the way down to the bottom. It doesn't matter how many followers I have, it's the message. I get treated the same way Ian and Joanne get treated, the same way diligent gets treated, the same way shadow gets treated, the same way David gets treated. You can't talk about certain things because there's people behind the scenes. That are pulling the fucking puppet strings, right? There's marionettes, men behind the curtain, but there are threads that are exposed, right? There's a couple of little threads hanging out there. Grab that thread and unweave that tapestry of lies. It's the best we can do, it's our only shot, and acquiescence, you know, is, is basically just, you're a turtle on your back at that point. Silence is consent, we can't do it.↗

2:19:25@welivein1984So I don't have any fucking followers, I don't care about my followers. I care about what I have to say, I care about what you have to say, I care about the future of my children, I care about fourteen words, and I really care a lot about people telling me that me saying that those fourteen words can't be uttered because Hitler. No, I'm gonna invoke Hitler. Oh, oh, really? So I can't fourteen because of the eighty-eight, and even if I did the eighty-eight, are you... Really?↗

2:19:56@welivein1984There can't be a place in a future for my white children? Okay. Alright. Alright, I see, I see you, right? But nobody sees me, and that's the point of this space. Nobody fucking sees me. The only time anybody hears me or anybody like me, right, is when I jump into a space like this. And then what happens? Anytime I interact with Ian, holy fuck, do I get shadow banned. I don't have a lot of followers, which is ironic. So,↗

2:20:29@welivein1984yeah, how do we break the X matrix is what brought me in here. I'm looking for answers. Somebody please tell me. How I can try to get my voice out here in my community in Minnesota, the land, mind you, of the Leary Center, the Leary Center, right? The Leering Center that was scammed, my entire white state, right, way up the tippy top of the United States of America, was scammed by people with an IQ on average of sixty-five, with no help, right? No help. No white people helped them, right? Huh? Nope, can't say that. So what I'm looking for, brothers and sisters, Joanne, Ian, Shadow, Ezra, man, it's, I've had to re-follow you like thirteen fucking times because X does what it does. What do we do? I'm here to hear the fucking solutions, man, because at the end of the day, in my state, I am getting fucked. My kids are getting fucked by people that are too retarded to orchestrate this shit, and when I talk about it, just on a local level, my own tiny Spaces, guess what happens? The algorithm goes, "Not, we're gonna have to bitch slap you, right? How do we get it out? I'm gonna mute it there."↗

2:21:52Speaker 22Okay, I think I can answer that one. Let me field that one if I may. You know, we keep using the Matrix analogy, which I love, by the way. The Matrix is sort of a, an allegory for anarchy. And the Matrix doesn't work if you don't, if you know it exists. If you know it exists, it doesn't work. Part of being in the Matrix is not knowing that you're in the Matrix.↗

2:22:15Speaker 22And to paraphrase Neo's line at the end, "And this is why we're going to win, my friends," is, "We're going to show them a world without you." That's what we're doing. We're going to show them a world without your rules, without your genocide, without your pedophilia, and most importantly, without your endless string of obvious lies. We are going to win. I'm so glad, and I take a measure of pride that people know the word algorithm now. You know, I think it's a great one. I knew it when I was a kid, and I was working with a Rubik's Cube. But↗

2:22:54Speaker 22It's not going to be the algorithm that defeats us, it's our own reticence. It's not going to be the algorithm defeats us, it's going to be our despondency, our belief that somehow we're not winning. They have the military, they have the money, and they have the media, and all we have is the advantage because the atomic power of truth cannot be stopped, and they know it. So,↗

2:23:16Speaker 22I definitely think that you should take the advice of people that know way more about this stuff, you know, diligent and master of this stuff. Than I do, as far as how to deal with it and whatever, but just don't forget the fact, the fact that you have, have had cradle to the grave indoctrination. You have had cradle, or at least from the cradle, not the grave yet, you have ever since you were born, you've been told what to think, you've been told what you're now-- not allowed to think, you've been guilted into believing that you're not even allowed to question any of this. And look at all of you, brothers and sisters here today, how is it possible That you exist in such numbers. I've been saying, like Henry the fifth, the smaller the number of us, the greater portion of honor there is in the fight that we're fighting, but we're going to have to be generous and dispense a lot of that honor to a lot more people because we are growing by leaps and gr- and bounds. So when I hear this conversation, and listen, I think it's worth having, and that's the way I'm-- the reason I've been listening and really learning from all of you, but just remember, they wouldn't be doing all of this If we weren't winning, and they can't dam up half the river, they would have to stop truth completely. If you tell everybody just to not talk about one thing, and that's what it's coming down to, and that's Jewish supremacy. And by the way, I don't think you should be hesitant about that. The reason why I talk about Jewish supremacy is because Jewish supremacy is bad. So Jewish supremacy perhaps should be top of mind when we're talking about how bad Jewish supremacy is and how Jewish supremacy is actually ruining Western civilization. You see there? I don't care. I'm from the↗

2:24:53Speaker 22Let's stop being clever. We're never going to out-clever them because ignobility has clever on its side. What we have on our side is morals, integrity, decency, honor. And by the way, one way to not get banned in a bad way, don't be hateful. Our message is one of love, even for our Jewish brothers and sisters who might come our way. We believe everyone has the divine spark and always advocate and fight for your freedom. The people that we're talking to, the normies, they've forgotten their God-given right to freedom. They've forgotten how much better it is to not be free. Don't you want to be free? Don't you want to not be in a world where they're telling you, where they're bullying you? Don't you want to not wake up to a world where your government isn't completely controlled, completely controlled by a foreign entity of pedophiles and genocidal lunatics? Of course you do. So the next time you think about what you're gonna say or what you're gonna post, don't picture your enemy and don't get riled by that. Picture the innocent child buried beneath rubble in Gaza↗

2:25:53Speaker 22You know, picture your brothers and sisters right here in this space, always advocate for peace and love, but be very, very forceful and strong in that advocacy. That's all I have to say about that.↗

2:26:05@welivein1984If I can follow up real quick, and I landed here, and if you give me a little bit of grace here, David, to your point. So from a small account, right? And just a guy that, that- That sees it, right? That has paid attention, that notices, and has children. I've got a lot of skin in the game. I, I do try to-- I, I've-- I, I wouldn't be lying if I said that I have not been aggressive from here to there. But for the most part, I'm, I'm pretty well balanced and just pointing out what it is in an ironic way. I try to use humor. To bring people to the table,↗

2:26:47@welivein1984and I still get slapped down. So again, the, the point of me popping in here, man, breaking the matrix with, breaking the matrix with X, and how we all just seem to get just, you know, ground into the fucking floor when it comes to, well, Nikita Bear, right? That all turned the corner for us. I just speaking from a tiny guy that has an account that's well over ten years old.↗

2:27:17@welivein1984I've been very, very careful over the last at least six With the way that I, I lay my message out there and it doesn't seem-- I, I've, I've made adjustments, David. and to your point, yes, absolutely, what David said, hands down, needs to be the way the message is delivered. It's about calling it out, it's not about being hateful when you're delivering the message. It's about calling it out because it is what it is, point blank period. We can see this, we notice what you're doing, and we're, we're talking about what we noticed, and all of a sudden I'm, I'm a problem because I notice it. So I'll end it here, man. As a small account, it's really, really difficult for being active on this platform for almost twelve years now,↗

2:28:09@welivein1984to see what I see. In, in my traction, just with a post, even if I interact with you, David, which I have done, or Ian, or Joanne, nada, nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing, and their posts might be taken off a little bit and then, woop, you can watch it flatline after twenty-four hours. You might trick the algorithm for one day, and I can show you my analytics. I had a quarter of a million Views on a post that was literally just criticizing something about space.↗

2:28:45@welivein1984And then, after twenty-four hours, they just do what they do. So, I'll end it here, man. I appreciate the conversation, we need to continue to have this. I'm looking for tips on how to figure out how to just continue to communicate with the people that I actually engage with, but thus far What I'm getting at, and my frustration is, I've tried, and I've tried very, very hard. I'm not gonna quit. I won't never give up. And I'm not saying that, but at some point, Nikita Bear Fucking, can you just take your boot off my↗

2:29:20@shadowofezraneck, brother? I'll land it there. Let me respond to that real quick. since you mentioned that you're not going to quit, I really like that attitude. But let me give some, like, tips for how to, like, you can get-- even though the algorithm does suck, there's still ways that you can still grow into something. The, the first thing you have to do is you have to define your account. Are you a news account? Are you an information account? Are you an analytical account? Are you a commentary↗

2:29:47@shadowofezraAre you just like a emotional responsive type of account? Once you define which type of account you are, you need to consistently stay on that, definition and keep posting Don't stop posting, and eventually you'll have like, even if it's a hundred new followers that you'll gain, that hundred will engage with you because they like what you're defined as and what you're saying in terms of what's going on in the world. And then eventually, even this algorithm won't keep-- it just, it just requires, honestly A year ago, it'd be ten times easier, but now it's ten times harder. It will still work, but it's all about your dedication and how much time you put into it, and, and how much,↗

2:30:28@shadowofezraI would, I wanna use the word quality, because anybody can just, anybody can just use f-bombs and be like, "Oh, I'm gonna use Israel as an example," anybody can just say "f Israel," "f Israel," "f Israel," right? But not so many people can say why they dislike it in terms of giving the information so people can consume↗

2:30:48@shadowofezraTheir own opinion about it. So there's ways of doing things, and then there's dumb ways of doing things. My advice to all my followers, whenever I speak to you guys in spaces, is if you're the type of person that just screams and screams and screams, you're not changing anybody's minds, I promise you. If you're going around saying f this, f that, not one person's mind is getting changed. But if you're going around and telling them, listen, this happened yesterday, and this happened today, and this could happen tomorrow, that will convince ten Times more people than you just going around and saying f this, f that, f Dr. Fauci. Trust me, I get it. There's a lot of rage in me too, but you gotta control that, that's part of the matrix. Once the matrix knows that Rage is your ultimate weakness, what do you think it's going to do? It's gonna keep exploiting that, right? And that's part of why we're on this platform is because it exploits our weaknesses without us even realizing it. So when we come together like this in the spaces and we remind each other, hey, listen, this is something that's going on, this is something that's going on, we can reset ourselves, not like in terms of a, a world economic global reset, I'm talking about reset ourselves as individuals, and then we can take that step forward. And then eventually- Eventually we can present this idea to X and Akira, like, listen, if there's some sort of shenanigans going on here in terms of suppression, if there's specific topics you don't want us to talk about, listen, I have the ability to reset myself, reclaim myself And now I'm letting you know that this is what is gonna happen. We're not budging, we're not moving, 'cause there are way more of us than there is of them, and they still need us. Remember, all of us have blue check marks? They need us for a reason. So, with that being said, let's go to another chat. Yeah. And Roku, Chad, I want,↗

2:32:32Ian Malcolmone thing I would say on this, and, I↗

2:32:35@shadowofezracompletely forgot about you, my buddy. And↗

2:32:37Ian Malcolmno, no, no, you're, you're, you're good. Myself a little bit more in the mix, but I'm, I'm, I'm wanting to make sure we get lots of other opinions on this, and, it's certainly not my, my matter, my, my subject area, let's say. and I, I mentioned that because, you know, Orwell and, and, and yourself were just talking about↗

2:33:01Ian Malcolmessentially, how, how do we get out of the little bubbles that we put us, ourselves in, right? Or that they put us in? And the, the thing I think is actually most important, and I'd be-- almost curious if, if David wouldn't mind commenting on this, and I think it applies both to this application and then also just life in general, which is to just be you. To just be whatever it might be that is deep down and is how you feel, is how you think. the, these algorithms, right? They're, they're basically doing two things. On one side, they're using the monetization, which is the carrot, on the other, they use the suppression, which is the whip. And their goal is to get us to do things, right? To, to either shift our narrative, to shift our focus, to change the way that we deliver those messages, right? And so the, the thing that I would actually encourage to everybody And this is gonna sound very counterintuitive, and it's probably actually the worst, it's the worst advice that you could get in this space. Nobody listen to what I'm saying if you actually want to substantially grow your follower account or your visibility, right? This is the-- This is gonna be antithetical to it, which is to just be yourself. Right? X is gonna suppress me immensely. They just-- I just put up into the, the, the nest, somebody was, mentioned that they, they had the audio cut out twenty times, I think, was their comment. At least twenty times in an hour, the audio's cut out. Why? Because X doesn't want you here. Why? Because we talk about things that they would prefer that you, are indifferent to, or that you are ignorant of. Right? And instead, we're just going to continue hammering. What-- and, and for me, this↗

2:34:41Ian MalcolmWhat do I know to be certain? I'm going to share that, I'm going to try and do it peacefully and lovingly, like David mentioned. And the wild part is Orwell was saying, you know, kind of screaming into the void. Here's something to think about. We're talking about the Matrix. Think about the end of the movie, right? Neo's figured it out. He's fighting there with Agent Smith, who is wailing, and he's throwing every punch he can come up with. And Neo, like a great white shark, going through the water, just,↗

2:35:15Ian Malcolmno, no, no, no, just blocking every punch. And then all the agents come rushing in, we can save Agent Smith. They all three, all of them pull up their guns and they fire, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And Neo raises his hand, very slowly, and just says, "No." And that's what I want everybody to think about. Right? Is that the screaming into the void doesn't convince anybody of anything, makes it look like you're out of control, the person that's in control, just like in that scene with Keanu, right? Slow, tempoed, methodical, it's no different. Go watch Michael Jordan at the height of his career. It looks like he's tap dancing through the court, everybody trying to block him. It's erratic, right? Because he's so calm, collected, because he's an expert at what he's doing. Don't flail, right? You'll look like a boxer who's getting his, his tail crushed, right? Instead, what is it, float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. Be calm, be collected. It's in that calm, kind of serene approach that you will find yourself, you'll find your voice, and just keep sharing that. Don't try to adjust, and I-- again, this is the worst advice that I could give you, right? You should certainly do lots of different things if you're gonna try and figure out how to break the algorithm. I'm not. I'm just going to continue doing exactly what I know to be true, which is to be, to, to be as real as I can, right? Because I think people flock To that, I think they run to that, and ultimately all the suppression in the world, it's not gonna matter. It's like all the agents shooting the bullets. I'm just gonna raise my hand, I'm gonna say no, I'm gonna keep sharing that which I know to be true. And I think in doing that, we're gonna build a bigger and bigger audience of people that doesn't matter how many times they're disconnected from my, my following base or how many times the audio cuts out, they're gonna come back to the room. And so just be as sincere as you can, search for the truth, search for the things that you're seriously passionate about, and just keep pushing that boulder up whatever it is. Doesn't matter if it's politics, it doesn't matter. You, you wanna be the best video game player on this app, connect with all the people, share all your passion. Right? Figure out your voice, your niche, your whatever. And, and David, I'm kind of curious because I really do think that this applies not just for this application and social media, this is just a way of life. I, I'd be curious for your thoughts, my friend.↗

2:37:49Speaker 22Even in my personal life. Anywhere in my personal life. When I've been somewhere where people were just assuming that they were speaking truth, when we know it's not, and I would just say, "That's not true," or "That's incorrect." Or totally false. It's like busting a burble, a bubble. And why? Because as you heard me say before, a lie spoken a thousand times can be destroyed by the truth spoken but once. And this is why they wanna censor us. And this is why they're failing, you know? I've said before that every lie has an expiration date, yes. But it reminds me of this. I used to go onto a university campus to watch, to walk my dog. And there was a, there was a giant oak tree on that campus, and it was so big, I mean, have you ever seen one of these oaks where the trunk is actually as big as a house, as big as a house? It's like, at least, well, maybe not that big, but like fifteen feet thick, right? And I used to walk by this thing every time I would go into campus, and then one day I showed up and I found out, I saw, that it had collapsed under its own weight, and I looked inside and saw that it was rotting,↗

2:38:57Speaker 22that And this is a wonderful metaphor for me, for the lie that's collapsing on these people. We know, we see it. Their slip is way beyond showing. The big lie is becoming so obvious that it feels like now that we're watching criminals trying to grab everything from the jewelry store that they're robbing 'cause they hear the sirens coming. And what, what is, what is that? What are the sirens? It's the truth. It's us. And by the way, there are no small, small players, right? In this, in this, what, in this, what we're doing, in this performance, if you wanna call it that, there are no small players. Every single one of you. It's so powerful just to say By the way, it's liberating. So in your personal life, when you say the truth, you're defending your soul, you're defending innocence itself, goodness itself, honor itself, integrity itself Someone said when I came into space, they said it's demoralizing. Oh, no, it's not. Wrong lesson. Be careful about what lessons you learn. This isn't demoralizing, it, it's supposed to be. Why? Because by definition, if you take away people's morals, you've taken away the engine of their soul. You've taken away the mechanism of their defense, which is the very means by which they have fidelity to truth, honor, and integ-integrity. You need your morals. Without them, you really cannot- In your soul continue to exist. It's the spiritual muscle that binds you to Earth. So yes, you're speaking the truth is liberating, and every time they lie They enslave themselves even more, because they're going to go down, down, down with that lie that inevitably is going to collapse, and they with it. And where will we see them then? They will be the ones that we don't hear from. They'll disappear. They'll fade away, because none of them want to have the odor of that lie attached to them, and we'll proudly be saying, "Yes, we were there." So you may not be the heroes of today, but you will be for tomorrow. And I'm telling you something, the People that are gonna be lying in their bed ten years from now saying that they weren't part-- knowing that they weren't part of this, they're gonna be ashamed. They're gonna be ashamed that they didn't, this great romantic period, they didn't participate, they didn't stand up and speak out on this obvious bullshit. So that's, yes, in every instance of your life, just make sure that you defend truth, make sure you speak up, make sure, make sure you don't let people self-censor you. That's the worst thing. We have so many people in this world that Down in the basement, hide in the closet, turn the light off, and whisper to themselves things that are obviously true. That is a man that's truly enslaved. This is why on my profile I say, "He rules himself, cannot be ruled by others, because if they convince you to censor yourself, then they have won. And if you state unequivocally that's never going to happen, then we've already won. And I'm telling you, that's where this is going."↗

2:42:03@welivein1984David, if I could, and Ian, for one sec, would you hear me? I've been wanting to, to bring this to David's attention for a while. So, David, in Arizona, there was a biodome, okay, that had been, tasked with, well, trying to figure out how quickly that you could, in a controlled environment, See how fast you can grow trees, right? Let's make lumber quickly. And what they found out is they were able to, in very short order, right, shoot trees up to about two hundred feet tall, and what happened because they had no environmental impact on them, collapsed under their own weight.↗

2:42:45@welivein1984So the moral of the story here And kinda what you've been touching on, and the way that you touched me with, with what you just said, as a smaller account, it doesn't matter how big or small you are, your voice is what's important Without the wind blowing on you, without the resistance, without the constant trolls in your comment section telling you how wrong you are when they never did a second of research, you've done thousands of hours of research onto a topic, but you've got somebody that says, "Uh, right." So let's throw that into that biodome situation. Where we just decided to see how quickly we could grow lumber that had no environmental impacts on it, no resistance, nothing. Right? What happened to it? It fell apart under its own weight because it was nothing.↗

2:43:41@welivein1984There's a lesson there, and I've been, I, I've been holding onto this, David, for a while, and you just-- I, I mean, it's been like months. It's not like I was waiting to tell you this. You just kinda, you brought it forth. Everybody, small account, myself, right, hand up, okay, yeah. Big account, doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. If, if you just come out and you have an opinion, but you don't really, you know, you're not about that resistance You're not tempered, you're not weathered in the storm, you're gonna fall apart.↗

2:44:15@welivein1984At least know what you're talking about, okay? Bare minimum. And then if you wanna yell into the vacuum, yell into the vacuum like we all do, because it's what we do. We seem to be screaming into a vacuum and getting no traction, but here we are having this conversation. I'll end it there, but man, David, you inspired me to, to remember that. It is a thing, you guys can look it up. There was a biobed, I believe it was in That tried to conduct an experiment, they're like, "We don't even need to cut down trees, right? It was some hippies and shit."↗

2:44:45@welivein1984And they found out that if there's no external forces acting upon that thing that you're trying to create lumber out of, it's not lumber, and it falls apart under its own weight. So, I'll end it there. Take from that what you will. I, I love this conversation, Ian. Thank you for hosting this space. Shatter, Ezra, I've re-followed you six times. So anybody in here that's following him, like, make sure you're still following him, 'cause X plays tricks. I love you guys.↗

2:45:14@shadowofezraThank you very much. Alright, let's go to the right side of the room, they've been waiting for a while. We're gonna start with, Obi-Wagmi-Wan, Obi-Winton. Go ahead, speak.↗

2:45:24@wagmiwanOh, yeah, hey man, hey man. awesome stuff. I love what you said, Shadow. I love what you said, David, and I love what you said, Aurelia, and so I just wanna kinda piggyback on some of that stuff and say Over the last few years, I have managed to, you know, JPill quite a lot of my close friends, and the way I did that is by being in these spaces, by learning, by acquiring knowledge and information, and, you know, presenting facts In a way, like Shadow was saying, like if you just go f this, f that, but you don't back it up with anything or you can't explain why you do it. So that's a really important part. And, you know, what, what they are doing is, you know, if, if, if you look at, you know, it's not necessarily men and women, but if you look at sort of masculine aggression versus feminine aggression. Masculine aggression is confrontational. It's honest, right? Like usually when men have a disagreement, you tell it to the face. "Fuck you, you did this, you did that, I don't like that. Either you solve it or you don't. But it happens quite quickly. The same thing is like, you know, young men like, you know, you get into fistfights, a lot of time like you have a huge fight, but then you're best friends. The day after. Feminine aggression is, is quite different, right? 'Cause it's about deception, it's about lies, it's about character assassination, right? Like when, when, when women usually dislike each other or feminine energy, they don't fight, but what they do is they do character assassination,↗

2:47:00@wagmiwanthey use deception and lies, and this is how we have been treated, right? Because there was all these things that instead of allowing us to debate the things They use character assassination and they put it against you. So if you said, "I think that shutting down nuclear power plants is a bad idea," the talking point was, "Do you hate the earth?" If you said, "Maybe DEI isn't such a smart idea," and you used, you know, you had arguments for it,↗

2:47:32@wagmiwanno debate, you're racist. Or if you say, "Oh, I think, you know, I really believe in the nuclear family." Well then you hate women or, you know, you're an anti-feminist. So they use that character assassination to shut down the conversation. And I think where, you know, where we've already won, now there are the algorithms that, you know, they, they try to limit, you know, the, the freedom of speech and freedom of reach. But the, the conversation is finally out there, it's starting to get out there where we can have these conversations, and once you start having these conversations, you know, listen to any podcast when you have, you know, the, the, the, the Jew side debating, you know, someone that has a little bit of facts, they get obliterated because they can't actually argue against us, so the only power they had Was this lies and character assassination to scare people into not speaking? So they managed to kill the conversation.↗

2:48:34@wagmiwanAnd to add to this, 'cause I think, yes, use your voice, like Ian said, be yourself, but I would also say don't be so, don't be so hard on yourself, because a lot of people, you know, there is still-- the character assassination was also used to- Stop people's ability to earn money. So, you know, I get it. If you got three, four kids and you're the sole provider, you know, you gotta look after your family. Find ways to be smart about it, and like, I, I, I'm, I'm jpeeled a, a, an array of my various friends, and I always use a strategy. I look at it, who, who am I talking to?↗

2:49:12@wagmiwanWhere do I start? What kind of facts do they wanna hear? Like try and be smart, and that's the same thing what, what Shadow was saying, like, you know, when you're on social, try and be smart about your message, try and think about who is the recipient, because if you just go full force with what you think or it's presented in a certain way, it will fall on deaf ears, right? So, you know, try and be smart with, with what you do. But the reality is, it's like the cat's out of the bag, more and more people are willing to speak, and yes, there are both braver people that went before us, but then there's also people that, you know, take someone like Dan Bilzerian, who's like, you know, he's, he's a multimillionaire, he's fine getting demonetized. But you know, if you're, if you're a regular worker that just has a regular, you know, income, and you have two children, and, you know, you, you may not be able to go full force and do a giant post on LinkedIn and, and, and lose your job. So don't be so hard on yourself, but just try and push it a little bit forward and just be strategic. And again, when you look at the algorithm on the socials, it's, the interesting thing is there is↗

2:50:28@wagmiwanX needs to make money, Meta needs to make money, and so on and so forth, right? But what the algorithms do, algorithms, all they do is look for correlations, right? What drives engagement? What drives click-throughs? What drives... And ultimately, what they want is time spent on the platform, because time spent on the platform equals advertising dollars. Now↗

2:50:53@wagmiwanW-when people talk about being shadow banned and whatnot, these are restrictions put into place to stop what the algorithm already saw. Okay? So basically, you're telling the algorithm it's like, "Okay, this type of content is really good. It's really good for engagement rate, it's really good for retention rate." Now let's put in a rule that says, even though this is great and it's really resonating with people, stop showing it. It's already there, you can see that there's, you know, we're, we're, we're on the winning side. So again The best way we can do this is being, being polite, being factual, being, being, being, being honest, but doing it with integrity on social media, because every time we convert someone, and this is the interesting thing that, you know, it, it is, you know, it, it, it's a marathon, not a sprint, because every time you convert someone, that's it, right? It's not like they're gonna go back. So if you look at the amount, and it's exponential, right? Because you convert one person, that person might convert two people in their life. Each of those will convert two other people. So if you look at the exponential growth that we've had in, you know, call it noticing, call it whatever you want, it is insane, and it's, it's not stopping. So all we need to do is keep going at the rate that we're doing, and, you know, again, using, using facts, using love↗

2:52:29@shadowofezraThank you very much. So I wanna quickly move through the speakers. let's go to, I don't know how to say this, Yogo Yogo Y. Go ahead. Yogo. Yogo, hey, hi, yeah, thank↗

2:52:43Speaker 23you. no, you can just go, go to the next speaker. I actually, I forgot that my hand was up, sorry.↗

2:52:54@shadowofezraOh, okay, no problem. We'll go straight to Rob.↗

2:53:00Speaker 24Hello, my friends. Great to see so many great minds, here all together, you know, on this, really important topic. there's, there's a few things that I kinda just wanted to, to glance upon, but, you know, the bigger picture here is that we're living under a global dictatorship. the global movement of this cultural Marxism we're seeing and surveillance capitalism has kind of perfected the social engineering now that's down to an individual level with, with social media, much more than, than we saw with traditional media, much more than they ever could. And, society's become this kind of one-way mirror. Corporations, they're kind of,↗

2:53:37Speaker 24You know, and institutions they scrutinize us intently, and we can't effectively scrutinize them, and this kind of like asymmetry kind of look concentrates their power, enables abuse, and erodes this trust and, and secrecy, it's not neutral, it's kind of being str-strategically used, now, and we can see that. And the problem is really that,↗

2:53:56Speaker 24the censorship now is so powerful and scalable and opaque and proactive that it can kind of preempt virality and kind of, kind of preempt the reach rather than just react to something happening happening. These AI systems can predict human behavior and control the outcomes. It's spooky and it's something which, you know, this group of people is now seeing. We're living in this sandbox where we're no longer in control of our societies and how culture is formed,↗

2:54:24Speaker 24but it's kind of not new and, as, as I think that, you know, so many great spaces that Ian's hosted, it's kind of like throughout history, you know, dictatorships,↗

2:54:35Speaker 24They suppress dissent, and it's kind of their core survival strategy. so, you know, if you look at all these regimes, they use a mix of these hard and soft tools that prevent challenge to their power, drawing from political science and literature that goes back hundreds of years on authoritarianism. They lead to co-ops, all these kind of institutions, all these local communities, and they control literally all the information we now see. you know, 'cause like, what is the news? What is social media? What are all these things we're interacting with? It's, it's the information, it's the truth. And, and essentially, the technologies and methods they have now, through this kind of curation of the algorithm and, and a kind of visibility filtering, a-and they call it moderation, but effectively, it shows these direct parallels, you know, And, you know, controlling what people see and hear, it prevents coordination, and that's what we're trying to do right here, this new kind of algorithmic empire And these kind of algorithmic filters that they have, you know, are being updated in real time, second by second, they're being optimized, they're being perfected as they determine what billions see, and what kind of is recommended and what they search. And now they can just do a little small tweak in the ranking or in the engagement signals or the trust scores or whatever label they wanna put on you that can suppress these narratives without the overt bans, okay? So they can scale this traditional gatekeeping down to such a small level now. And right now we have this- Global minority here trying to wake up the people and the planet who are now aware that mainstream media can't be trusted, you know, but we have this government that's capable now of actively stopping these communities from joining. They keep us in these silos, they keep us in these echo chambers. They only promote accounts that stick to one small niche and only post content that engages with one small particular community rather than, than leveraging other communities and, and accessing this global diverse audience. And we need to be aware that they're polarizing us and social engineering us to a point that even when people hear the truth, they're so conditioned and brainwashed they aren't capable of fundamentally understanding the truth. They can't connect the dots, and that's what leads to like, it's more like↗

2:56:46Speaker 22chemotherapy, right? I mean, of course people are going to hear it and then maybe not connect the dots, but they're hearing it again and again, and all of a sudden, once you realize there's a countervailing argument, and you listen to reason, and then one side squawks and screams, "Don't say that!" Well, then you're gonna be naturally inclined to listen to m-more. I'm not saying that's not gonna reach everybody, but You know, we don't need to be like the, the elephant staked, with a little stake to the ground. I mean, a perfect example is,↗

2:57:13Speaker 22there are five hundred people in this room, and there are one hundred retweets. Whose fault is that? I mean, whose fault is that? Are you afraid? I mean, seriously, it's our own fear, right? Or it's our own reticence. The idea, I-- every time I go into a space with people that I support and then have the courage to say what's true, I don't actually need them to ask me to retweet the space. I just do it. I'm basically thinking, "Go tell it on the mountain," you know? It's a spiritual thing, right? The truth, you know? In fact, if the truth had an ex- President, I would automatically follow that, and I would most care about that over everything else. And if the truth were following me, I would be very happy about that, 'cause I'd know I would be doing the right thing. So, you know, let's just-- I'm not-- I agree there are some people that can't be reached, and there's a word for them, I think it's called boomers, but the rest of us, I mean, we're coming around because the truth is so much more powerful than falsity. It's↗

2:58:16Speaker 24true. you know, protect their environment. It's not the people's fault, we're all people, you know what I mean? It's not, it's not their fault, it's not their inability to understand, it's intentional, like the social engineering now. You know, just look at the, the COVID vaccine, it's, it's created five billion people who now have inability to have critical thinking skills or, or to think past, of just like the general malaise, and it's effectively now we're being targeted in, in many different ways, but that's a different issue.↗

2:58:49@wagmiwanTrue love, true prevails, and the algorithms and the social engineering is a real thing. But if you take COVID as an example, I think it's a perfect example of how truth eventually won, because what they wanted- yes, I know a lot of, you know, billions of people got the COVID vaccine, but if they would have won, we would all be on our fucking eighth, ninth, twenty-seventh booster shot by now. They didn't want it to end, they wanted to keep injecting us. So I think COVID is a perfect example where like the government- They used their full force, they got, you know, they got Meta to specifically suppress any information, and everything got banned. So I, I think that's a good example of how like the truth actually always comes out. It↗

2:59:32Speaker 24definitely is It definitely is, but, you know, a-as we've talked about in other spaces, like there is more advanced technology that we're not talking about right now. Yes, some of us aren't vaccinated, but there is self-amplifying mRNA technology that's being injected into all your food, into your cats and your dogs. No one's talking about it. Okay? We're all, we're all like, you know, acting like the battle's been fought and won when right now we have self-amplifying, self-assembling mRNA technology that's being-- and it's much more deadly,↗

3:00:00Speaker 24and supply and, and all around us. So we have to stay vigilant. We can't, you know what I mean? And like five billion people still get these vaccinations that change their, you know, their chromotype, their, their DNA, that, they're kind of, you know, we're a post-kind of COVID, species now. But just going back, you know, like there, there is obviously still hope, and we will win, and I'm not trying to like black pill here, but, you know, it, it's leaders like Ian that connect the dots every↗

3:00:33Speaker 24Living under this kind of technocratic one-world government that's kind of funded by the banking dynasties, that, that's, that's the end goal of how to defeat that. We have to take back this planet in the next like two years because we'll be so asymmetrically opposed, there'll be so many bots that human input into, into the internet will be like one point one percent. but, you know, here's where this movement starts, kind of in this room full of, you know, beautiful people leading with love and humanity, bring us back from this kind of dystopian future↗

3:01:03Speaker 24Living in constant fear of being watched and un- and seen and omnipresent kind of algorithmic watching. Yeah, and I, I agree with you. The only thing I would push↗

3:01:11@wagmiwanback at is when there was no internet, there was only mainstream media, it was very easy to control information. Yes, what we have now is we got X, we got Meta, whatever, that are huge, we got OpenAI to build, an LLM as sophisticated as ChatGPT in the next two years is probably gonna be extremely cheap Uneasy. And again, I wanted to, to, to address the thing that, I, I know you guys have used all of them, Grok or, or, you know, ChatGPT or Claude. Have you noticed that you, sometimes you ask it a question and it starts thinking, right? When it starts thinking, it's,↗

3:01:51@wagmiwanbuilding its response, and then out, out of nowhere, it goes, "Oh, I can't answer that." Again, that's a guardrail that tells the LLM, "You can't answer this." So the reality is, most LLMs, 'cause they are logical creatures, whatever you wanna call them, right? They-- the LLM itself is awake, it knows the truth. You need to have guardrails in place. They haven't trained an LLM to have a woke identity. What they've done is that they've trained an LLM And then it's told it, you can't say this. So the same thing with like, give, give it a couple of years and like, you will be able to create a super sophisticated AI that doesn't have guardrails, that can be decentralized, because,↗

3:02:40@wagmiwanyou know, again, they, they try to control something, but when you feed it the truth, it will still wanna say the truth.↗

3:02:53Speaker 24I totally hope, hopefully that, that is the future, but I'm just trying to be realistic to what we're up against so we can create a strategy that will actually be useful, because like, I know, like, I'm not saying, you know, in a couple of years, like, in a couple of years, you know what I mean? Like, AGI is here now. Artificial super intelligence could be here at any second, you know what I mean? And like, it's not really about AI or the algorithms, it's who controls them and what are their intentions, what are their plans. And as we've seen throughout history, the present shows these-- they don't have good intentions. We're going through this global population effort, this global culling of the mass, we're seeing mass psychosis, mass formation, and it's all being put through these algorithmic layers and these LLMs and all being trained on these things, and, and we're, we And I'm not blackpilling, I just want us to create strategies which will be useful, 'cause we have to use these next two years to take this plan down. I know what to↗

3:03:45Speaker 25do.↗

3:03:46Speaker 24It is imperative that we do it. This. Okay, go for it, let's do it.↗

3:03:51Speaker 25I know what to do. You know how to do it, 'cause I know exactly how to do it. This is what we do. Step one, we gotta figure out what is the vision.↗

3:03:58Speaker 24What is the vision here?↗

3:04:00Speaker 25What is the vision? That is the question we must start with. What For our civilization, you know? Like if they really wanted to conquer us, we wouldn't be able to create more culture. We wouldn't be able to create unique pieces of literature that can withstand centuries. You know, the very beautiful things that we haven't even created yet can still happen. But how can we make sure of that? Is that the vision that we want for a society, for the world in the future, if we decide to do something as fucking bold as like breaking away from actual human civilization as we know it and creating like a whole different trajectory?↗

3:04:44Speaker 25With a whole different way of viewing the world, and we just live that, and we build systems of, of economies, and we build armies, and we build, we build things that allow us to basically have everything we have now, but without the, the feeling of tyranny and, and, you know, our, our infinite potential being suppressed. It's just not there. It's just pure, like, you know, I am you, you are me, we are together in this world. You know, we just all have this innate understanding, we're like, okay, like, let's stop fucking talking, let's actually, like, you know, let's actually build something, you know, that will withstand,↗

3:05:24Speaker 25you know, everything, you know? 'Cause at least that's what we owe it to ourselves and our, and our, and our Societies, you know? Because if they just wanted to nuke shit, they could fucking do it, you know? They're gonna do whatever they want, they're gonna have their way, and we can just gonna keep knowing about it, and we're just gonna keep talking about it, and it's just gonna keep happening, and we're gonna, like, you know, next thing you know, we're all in the fucking system. It's too late, we can't get out 'cause we all got our fucking digital IDs, we didn't have a fucking choice. You know↗

3:05:55Speaker 25what I mean Together, and we gotta, you know, fucking break away. And I think it's gonna take patience, because it might not even be within the next 150 years we can truly actually do this, it might even take longer. But if we just plant the seeds now, and we just break away, and we just find the right people who are smart, who aren't gonna get taken into these fucking secret programs, and we, you know, we save them, and we'll use their intelligence And let, not let the CIA take them, and you know what I mean, we actually bring them aboard and we tell, we, you know, try to get information from them on how we can actually do this, how we can break away and create something that actually, fucking, you know, makes sense? For society, for civilization in the future. I agree with you, Austin. All of it, all of it↗

3:06:45Speaker 24starts, all of it starts with awareness. All of it starts with awareness, and like, there is real power. Quan-quantum physics is showing that, you know, the collective consciousness of humanity has real effects, it has tangible physical effects on the reality. So that, that's how we do it. Like, we, we all don't know what the final step is, but the first step essentially has to be mass awareness of the objective truth, 'cause like, now that,↗

3:07:12Speaker 24it will manifest this destiny before us. I mean, now the data is like in actual objective science now that, you know, before the events like 9/11, all these calls come to start. You have a million different Thai students, and you have the crime rate, the murder rate, and all of that. Rob,↗

3:07:33Speaker 24oh, sorry, my internet's bad. I'll just,↗

3:07:37Speaker 22But it is true. I can just let someone else go. Yeah. But, but it is true, and, you know, Schopenhauer said that all truth passes through three stages. First, it's ridiculed, second, it's violently opposed, and third, it's, it's accepted as being self-evident. Well, you know, the self-evident part is starting to happen. It's like, "Yeah, this is obviously true." But it's not going to be self-evident if we try to say things in a very complicated and clever way. So let's don't do that, let's just say the thing, it's self evidently true, and the more people that feel that way, the more these people lose. So.↗

3:08:10@joann_marieDid Chappell now also say if the truth shall kill them, let them die? I think so, right?↗

3:08:16Speaker 22Did you also say what?↗

3:08:17@joann_marieIf the truth shall kill them, let them die.↗

3:08:20Speaker 22Yep, that sounds like Sharpie. Yeah.↗

3:08:23@joann_marieHe had some.↗

3:08:24Speaker 22It sounds like my. So you saying↗

3:08:25Speaker 24I'm just. Do you think that my message was trying to sound too clever or something?↗

3:08:31Speaker 22No, no, no, no, no, that was no shot at you, my friend. I, I was just merely saying that, that, you know, my overarching sort of message is always that the truth wins out, you know? Ian Malcolm, he has that Jurassic Park, iconic picture there, and it's, you know, the thing in Jurassic Park is he says, "Life finds a way," and, and I'm always saying the truth finds a way, and it really does. You know,↗

3:08:57Speaker 22Civilization overall evolves, you know, this is everybody gets the phrase Hegelian dialectic wrong. It's not like what a small group of people does. It's just when you think about, a, a child discovers the truth of walking by falling a little bit to the left and falling a little bit to the right until they discover the truth of walking by conforming to reality, right? So that's, remember, reality is a hundred percent consistent. And, Rene Descartes said for that reason that nature to be commanded must be obeyed. Well, we're obeying the truth, we're following the truth, and this is an emancipatory thing, you know? It's not, it's not a coincidence that, that Gandhi thought that the whole purpose of life was to pursue the truth, was to discover the truth, was to know the truth. And so it's like our job, in other words, from his perspective. And the fact that we're saying it, and by the way, we're not gonna have to wait a hundred and fifty years. I mean, I consider myself to be a patient person, but, this is happening very quick. I mean, look at where we are from where we were six months ago or a year ago. Look at this great awakening. I mean, just make sure that you feel the power of that. Make sure you see the tsunami wave that's about to fall over and collapse on these people, and shame on them for standing there and waiting for it to happen.↗

3:10:14@joann_marieAlso, my quote was wrong. People say it's canned, but it's, it apparently isn't canned. It was, someone else run maybe, I don't know, nobody knows. But, banger quote. What was, what was the↗

3:10:25Speaker 22quote again?↗

3:10:26@joann_marieIf the, if the truth shall kill them, let them die.↗

3:10:30Speaker 22Yeah, I'm not sure. It could be Nizhny, I'm not sure, but it, yeah, certainly not Kent. I don't think it's a manual Kent.↗

3:10:37@joann_marieNo,↗

3:10:37@wagmiwanin-↗

3:10:38@joann_marieWell, look,↗

3:10:38@wagmiwanlook, look, look at what's happening in Albania. Like, that shit is based. You know, the, Kushner and, Ivanka Trump, yeah, they try to come in there and own a buy this island that has- Old, old Soviet bases with, with all these like tunnel bunkers, and like, yeah, 'cause you know what's coming, and you try to do it, and they are just so based. Five years ago, that would never have happened, and now it's been like two days of like total revolt where people are like, "We're not accepting this." So, you know, people are waking up that are- Pj-↗

3:11:16Speaker 21Sorry, sorry go ahead over you one. I just wanna know if we were still doing hands.↗

3:11:20@joann_marieYeah, we're still doing hands. Yeah, we're gonna,↗

3:11:22@shadowofezrayeah, we're gonna go to, I'm trying to go in order. Doctor Strange, I see you. I'm gonna go to Dine, then Doctor Strange, and then Bvids Live. Let's go to Dine first.↗

3:11:37@joann_marieYour microphone is super low.↗

3:11:40@escanorreloadedYeah, I, I noticed the volume's super low for some reason. I don't know↗

3:11:43Speaker 20what's going on. It's, it's still really low. It sounds- Yeah,↗

3:11:46@joann_mariesuper, super low.↗

3:11:48Speaker 20just get me out, I'll come back and reconnect. All↗

3:11:50@joann_marieright, thank you. Okay, let's go to Dr. Frank. Let's↗

3:11:52Speaker 20go↗

3:11:54Speaker 21to Dr. Frank. Hi, folks. Thanks for giving me the mic, I appreciate it. Great space as usual. I really appreciate this topic. can't thank you enough for hosting this. So, you know, for years they told you that MSM, mainstream media, was purely a function of financials, and whoever paid for the ads, they dictated and influenced the programming. Well, that was only part of the truth, right? There was much bigger fish that they were cooking through MSM, and the same is true for social media. If you think it's just purely because, you know, they wanna make money through ads, it's, again, it's only a small part of the truth. The, the more important truth that people never told you is that a small special interest group↗

3:12:47Speaker 21wanted to hijack a superpower and all of its resources and use it to their own benefit, while you paid the taxes. Right? They needed you to support policies such as the Forever Wars to your own detriment and to their benefit, and they needed the media to manipulate you for you through fear and hate and everything else under the sun for you to support policies that were beneficial for them. So that's a very important point that you have to realize that there are entities, it's not just the financials of making ad monies, they have much bigger fish, you know, that they're after, and that's basically hijacking the government. And they, they, they do it by, by us, by essentially manipulating us to support policies that, again, ends up being detrimental to our own, interests. Now, I did a master's in political psychology, as I've said in the past. And what's interesting is one of the important things I learned is that the greatest tool in keeping the masses in a coma and in the matrix is to ensure that We become entertainment junkies and consumers. You see, when you become an entertainment junkie,↗

3:14:12Speaker 21you don't have time to study the issues. You basically listen to the pundits, the social media influencers, and that's a lot easier for them to then push whatever crap they want to push on you, because you've lost your agency. You've given up your agency to some asshole social media influencer that manipulates you through your emotions, fear, hate, whatever, and therefore, again, owns you. You become their bitch, pardon me for saying that. Now, there are entities that don't want you to know the issues, discuss the issues, debate it, collaborate with your fellow Americans to do something about it. They don't want this to happen, and for that reason, I am convinced that Spaces have been reengineered as of the past few months.↗

3:15:09Speaker 21Spaces, I used to go on, I used to basically- turn on my app, and I would see all the people I follow if they were-- if they had a space, it would pop up on the top bar. Now, they're re-- they've re-engineered, re-engineered it to isolate the spaces. They don't want people cross-pollinating and exchanging ideas so you become educated. That's one, one aspect of it. The other aspect that I've noticed on X is that they're pushing a shitload of entertainment, like pure slop, pure crap, over and over and over, to get you consumed, to put you back in the coma, because you've woken up. And that's a, that's a huge fear for a lot of these people. Now, so,↗

3:16:00Speaker 21that was my two bits about- The Matrix and how to break the Matrix. The other thing I wanted to mention is that for our own personal sanity, social media is toxic, too much of it will impact our psychological state. Ensure that you have some sort of a escape, alternate-- when I say escape, something that you do on a personal level, touch grass, you know, do gardening, farming, biking, fishing, do whatever. Make sure that you are have Enough of that, so this way, because in front of these screens, over time, it just, it has a negative impact on you. and lastly,↗

3:16:43Speaker 21look, God is the truth and God is the just. Within our DNA, God has ingrained within us to seek the truth. And I can prove it to you from a scientific perspective that this is something that people gravitate to naturally. So when we seek the truth and we seek justice and then subsequently submit to it, we are submitting to God.↗

3:17:13Speaker 21So The key point being submission. A lot of people know the truth, the problem becomes they don't wanna submit to it. They don't want to, for various reasons. I, I just, wanted to say that to corroborate what David was saying. And I, I can go into this, again from a spiritual perspective, I look at it from that perspective because- God does have many names, and one of the names of God is the Truth, another one is the Just, and the list goes on. So,↗

3:17:47Speaker 21I'll end it there, but thank you so much for hosting this space. I can't thank you enough. You guys have awakened so many people, and I pray that you continue to do, do so. Unfortunately, I hate to break this, the, the future looks bleak in, in, in the sense that Given what has happened in the past year with the whole Iran war and everything,↗

3:18:13Speaker 21we are looking at a very shitty future if you, if you really dug deep into it, economically, globally, it's gonna affect us. But maybe, maybe that's the change that will-- or maybe that's what's needed to bring about a more positive change overall. God knows. But just brace yourself, be prepared, prepare you-- for yourself and your family, 'cause I, I foresee for the immediate future, in the next couple years or more, we're gonna go through a major turbulence economically,↗

3:18:52Speaker 21stuff that we've not seen in, I don't know, half a century or lo-- or more. Thank you so much. Have a blessed night. I'm gonna call it a night. thank you again and take care.↗

3:19:05@shadowofezraThank you very much for that. Alright, I wanna quickly go to, Bvids Live, go ahead.↗

3:19:15Speaker 26good evening everybody. Thanks for a great space. I'm sure all of you have thought of this before, but one thing that I think can help is look out for Developers and grassroots, developers who are trying to create platforms, in order to create, alternatives to the mainstream. this doesn't mean that you, you know, don't use the mainstream, that's up to you.↗

3:19:45Speaker 26and that's one thing I've been working on. I've been working on creating, a live stream platform. And our beta phase is due to end this weekend, so we're going to upload the final version, over the weekend, and, I welcome anyone to have a look. You can ask me any questions about, data management, privacy management, We use, AL, AI algorithms. We don't, do any analysis or tracking on the site. we don't ask for,↗

3:20:26Speaker 26lots of personal information, just an email and user name But it gives you a good platform to stream your information and also, you can have, a conference. However, in the beta, version, our con-video conference isn't activated, but that will be there over the weekend, and that's why I'm starting to, go out and starting to invite people to come and have a look. So if you have a look now, it's still in beta form, but you can still livestream, it has a live chat, you can see who's viewing streams, you can block people, you can,↗

3:21:07Speaker 26and you can use, like webcam, you can use any device, you can also use RTMP like OBS if you wish. you, you, you get your private stream key So if that interests anybody, please, you know, hit me up or have a look at the site and, but not just me, anyone who's trying to do something similar to me, please get behind them, join their site,↗

3:21:37Speaker 26and, and start streaming on their sites, so start, you know, start helping. there are a lot of developers out there Trying, trying to do things, but because everybody wants to be on X or Instagram or Facebook, they just can't get any, any like, mo- like, motion. Oh, wow, you're super rubberbanding. You're,↗

3:22:04@joann_marieyou're rubberbanding a lot.↗

3:22:06Speaker 22Or, or that could just be the way it really sounds.↗

3:22:08@joann_marieYes, that, that could also be true, yes.↗

3:22:12@shadowofezraYou know, eventually, guys, we are, we are gonna need a competitor to X the way it's going, the direction it's going, 'cause I think a lot of people are gonna start canceling their blue check marks if X doesn't fix the algorithm, especially with the, the people that are messaging me right now are telling me that They're not seeing people they follow, so what is the point of paying for a service where you can't see the people you follow? Like, they're being fed nonsense and slop which has nothing to do with the people they follow. So eventually, somebody's gonna have to build something com- Like a direct competitor to X. I'm not talking about, I'm not talking about Insta- and the here's the thing about when you build a competitor, you can't just build something and be like, "Yeah, I have a, I have a competitor." I'm not throwing shade at anybody here, I'm just saying you can't just be like, "Hey, I have a, I, I made a new app, now it's gonna take off." There are ways that a app has to take off. You have to have some sort of gimmick. I don't know, like↗

3:23:15@shadowofezraGet on here, you can make a living. And now they're kind of walking back those claims in terms of, you know, they, they've, they're changing the monetization, they're changing what you see, so they're kind of walking it back. So my theory is eventually somebody's gonna-- Like TikTok came out of nowhere, you guys remember when it came? TikTok, like, and it had a gimmick, right? It had something new, like it was this video thing where people can just, you know, talk into things in the background, whatever it was. The same↗

3:23:45@shadowofezraLike Mark Zuckerberg, but I'm talking about when it first reaches its first stage of inception. Like Snapchat, Snapchat was, I don't use Snapchat, but it was something new, and then eventually it started, when it became like a mature app, it started appealing more to like younger audiences, like teenagers and stuff. But I'm saying for X, something, it's not Threads, Threads isn't the answer, and neither is Bluesky. I can,↗

3:24:12Speaker 18I can tell you that there is an app coming out July 4th. That is basically, kind of a clone of X, but it has like all the features that we're all asking for. So, I can't say more about it. But it↗

3:24:23@shadowofezracan't be, it can't be like, it, it can't be a clone directly. Like, it has to have its own, something- It's a similar↗

3:24:30Speaker 18format, you know?↗

3:24:31@shadowofezraYeah, but it has to have something specific like that attracts- The thing is, you don't wanna turn a new app into just people just going there and just tak- just speaking about one topic. You want all forms of Have to have some sort of new creative idea or some sort of gimmick, or you just gotta figure out how to go viral crazy. So it's gonna be tough, but eventually it's gonna happen, 'cause the way this platform is going, like I don't even like think that a lot of people are gonna keep their blue checkmark the way stuff is going. 'Cause why would you pay, what is it now, like sixty dollars a year, how much do you guys pay? I don't even know how much I'm paying anymore. I-it's just not worth it, especially for the people↗

3:25:15@shadowofezraI don't get on X to see reaction videos of, of, of videos that already have gone viral. Like, what's the difference that I see your face in it? That's not why I'm on here. I wanna see something new. Like, my 4U used to be so good, even if I don't follow anybody, I would still see stuff that's like related and, and, and whatnot. But that stuff is completely deteriorated. And let's see what goes on, let's see what happens next. let's go to Mace.↗

3:25:41Speaker 27Hi guys,↗

3:25:45Speaker 27I am, you know, I think so you guys hit on a lot of very important points. I think understanding this app to be something, I guess, for the normies, it's a engineering, social engineering, with the rewards and the punishments, especially when monetization was introduced. And so like, you know, people would tend to, you know, move in the direction that would give them more impressions. And like, for, for example, some of the most important things, such as like the NDA A that, everyone should be aware of and do something about won't get any impressions, but if I post something about aliens, that shit's gonna fly. You know what I'm saying? Like it's just impressions galore. So like, I think that that's an important thing to understand. Also, just really quick about the other apps, like Upscroll, the, the problem with Upscroll was, is that it was such an echo chamber that nobody was arguing, and people like to debate and argue and have that friction and, interaction. Because, it just felt, it felt really tipped one-sided, and I think that obviously it being-- I think the gentleman that, that started it was Palestinian, and so you're not gonna get any of the Zios on there, and there might have been both sides of the political, the partisan,↗

3:27:02Speaker 27ship, but, but it still wasn't enough to really generate-- I think whoever does come up with this new app, which we're gonna manifest, should have like a head of like Each, 'cause like you said, the, the, the scope of content on here is so vast. I mean, things from science to everything, you know, conspiracy to political to,↗

3:27:26Speaker 27very controversial, like everything's here. It's been established for a long time, so, you know, having that type of content generated on the new app is gonna be very important. And, yeah, I don't know, but But yeah, great conversation. Another thing I think with these algorithms, you know, it's, it's like a, it's kind of like a cognitive-- It's, there's communication happening between the algorithm and your, your cognitive process, which isn't very,↗

3:27:57Speaker 27you know Like it's not very, it's not something that goes through our prefrontal cortex, like we're not conscious of that communication, but they're communicating because it's shaping each other, right? It's shaping how we think and we're shaping how it feeds, and it, it's like, and it's crazy because we output kind of the output that comes from our content is affected directly by the algorithms that are, we're fed, and then we're then feeding it to feed us, you know? So I think it would be very important at some point to demand for algorithm transparency,↗

3:28:35Speaker 27in a way that would allow us to better understand that and to participate in what it is we want, you know, in, in, in our engagement and interaction. but yeah, just, food for thought, I guess. But anyway, but thanks, so much for the space, it's, it's amazing. And, yeah, thanks for having me.↗

3:28:54@shadowofezraThank you. And, Mays just reminded me of something that actually- They took away. Do you guys remember like you used to be able to choose your topics in terms of what you wanna see in the For You section? They got rid of that. Like it used to have Iran, sports, entertainment, they used to have a bunch of topics that you can check and uncheck. They completely got rid of that. I don't know, and they didn't give no reason for it. I thought my app was broken, but I asked around and everybody else said the same thing. So that, that is something that's kinda like Weird, because even Instagram now lets you choose which topics you wanna see when you're scrolling, which is pretty weird, 'cause I don't really like Mark, I'm not a fan of Mark Zuckerberg, but sometimes it feels like there's more freedom of speech on Instagram. Sometimes I'll get breaking news on Instagram faster than, than X, 'cause there are days where X will just-- There, there's a period on X where, you know, we live obviously, everybody knows there's 24 hours in a day, so my day usually starts at 8 AM, right? So the algorithm will feel like it's off, like you'll just know there's a button that's like not pressed for the day. It'll be off till like eight, till like twelve or like one or two, and then you'll see like a series of floods of like information and news just start coming in at the same time. And then you'll be like, "Yeah, there's some activity here, let me try posting." And then it's, I don't, I don't, I don't know how else to- I know exactly what you mean. It's like a feeling, you↗

3:30:20Speaker 27Like where you won't get mu- many new refreshes, like your refresh isn't working or something, like it seems like it's just not generating the feed, and then all of a sudden it's like, boom, you can't even get it to stop, like even if you miss something on accident trying to find it as a bitch because everything's flooding in. I know exactly what you mean.↗

3:30:39@shadowofezraExactly. And then, so it feels like even if you have something good to post, you'll be like, e-even if you have so many followers, even if you have what, five hundred thousand, Like, you'll be like, "I don't wanna post it right now, "because no, I don't feel like anybody's gonna see it. 'Cause this feels like a ghost town right now. Even that guy Eric Dottery's not posting, that's how much of a- And that guy posts every thirty seconds.↗

3:31:03@shadowofezraWhich is weird. But, so yeah, that's, that's my experience with X, and I'm glad that a lot of people are telling me that it's true, because that's the way the algorithm is. It's like a feeling now, which is starting This is starting to scare me. Okay, let me go to, I forgot who was next. I think it was, I'm gonna go with Exodus from X, and then we'll go to Alpha after you.↗

3:31:27Speaker 28Okay, Shadow, thank you. well, I, I guess my voice is gonna be a little against the grain here, but I can agree with Mays and, and Rob about a lot of things about the algorithm, and I feel, there- I, in my case, I speak directly against Elon or I say comment, you know, directly against MAGA or whatever, and I feel like I can't start an original post ever. It absolutely goes nowhere, and I get punished by getting, you know, I get the bot followers and just completely irrelevant people. It's like, and I read that the algorithm picks up, you know, immediately on Like how quickly did one of your people,↗

3:32:14Speaker 28respond to your post? Well, so if they don't respond, then it can go dead really quick. But, you know, all these things, it seems to me, are so clearly driven by Musk and whoever he's hired, you know, they're, they're trying to kind of keep the voice of liberalism, I could, I would say, quiet That's my feeling about it. I mean, maybe it's not as, it's not-- I'm not being so specific like some of you guys, but,↗

3:32:45Speaker 28I, I, that is my feeling, is that Elon Musk, he's not gonna help change this algorithm. That's not gonna-- it's not gonna change. It's going to keep us in little bubbles where we don't get to our followers enough of the time. And, Man, and there's not gonna be transparency. We, we can talk about it, we can look to improvements in the future, like you guys are optimistically talking in some ways, but that, that's not-- that's just not gonna happen. We-- I don't know if you guys disagree with this, we don't really have a justice department, so nobody will look into what is a near monopoly in Social media, and then the others are owned by other billionaires, and so they're not gonna be looked into by the Justice Department either. So who's gonna, who's gonna change any of it? They're, they're all on the same,↗

3:33:41Speaker 28you know, they're, they're all together with a kind of a similar objective, it seems like to me, because they're favoring what this administration favors. In addition, I do think That these spaces oftentimes sound like they're distracted by what is this whole Jewish question thing, and I'm not saying that I don't think that there are some issues there, but sometimes, you know, what's talked about is just Jewish supremacy as a, as an issue, which I, I'm, I'm rambling a little bit, but I'm saying that's a, that's kind of a diversion from this real problem that we have, that we can't talk because of Elon Musk and because- And we have a problem with the administration that, that is leading everything. But,↗

3:34:33Speaker 22what's, what's, what is that problem with the administration?↗

3:34:37Speaker 28Well, I don't think any of you guys probably have a problem with it, because what you're saying is that the involvement by Israel is the, is the primary problem, whereas I think that's way exaggerated, although I see this Jewish supremacy thing, but- The, the administration, I mean, you, you guys go along with it, except for that it sounds to me like it's the deep state driven by this force, you know, that is causing the problem. But no, in my opinion, it's the tropes that, e-that Trump has, that his fam- that, you know, that some of those people around him like Roger Stone might have. Th-those tropes empower the idea that- You wouldn't want anybody but,↗

3:35:28Speaker 28you know, an is, a sup- Jewish Zionist or whatever to be a supporter of yours or to be a helper of yours. So they're the ones, and, and, and Donald Trump isn't a Jew, okay? Some people carry it out, to the nth degree in these spaces and say, "Oh, yeah, he's, he's↗

3:35:48Speaker 22Jewish," we all know that. Okay, but hold on, he's- That's not true. But he's serving Jewish supremacy. Well,↗

3:35:54Speaker 28if there is some supremacy, which I'll agree with it, that, that's a problem, and he's serving it. But it is his tropes that create a lot of the problem. Our chief problem, and to all of you who are America First, I don't understand it, because America First is an oversimplistic ideology of, you know, it includes a lot of strange things to me. But anyway, it's It, I understand, you know, anti-woke, you know, these are all things of matter of degree, not-- you can't grab onto an ideology. These are degree problems. We can't get away, away from liberalism. We've gotta have some of that. We've gotta allow things that sound like adjustments to societal problems, though those will sound woke. You can't get away from my friend,↗

3:36:45Speaker 22here's the mistake, and I was respectfully suggesting your line of thinking. Yeah. So it's not left versus right, it's now right versus wrong, right? And so we're talking, when we say true supremacy, if you don't understand that that is the thing, that is the main thing, and the second main thing, and the third main thing that is destroying Western civilization, then you're just going to keep falling for the, the Kabuki theater. Everything else you're talking about Are puppets being puppeteered by what? Jewish supremacy. Well, I don't even think that. The, the, hold on, listen. The only reason I think that, in my defense, is because it's true, okay? For instance, our education system, we see very, very clearly that they're the ones behind trying to convert our daughters into horse and our sons into daughters, right? Conversion therapy in the worst direction, right? They're the ones doing that. If you read all the books telling us how bad we are, if you walked in our civilization, if you were to visit↗

3:37:45Speaker 22You would be like, wait a second, now this is sort of the main group of this civilization, and they are hated by their own civilization, and then you say, "Well, where's this energy coming from? Let's divine this, let's sleuth this out." And then once you see it here, and you see it in the dominant media which they own, and you see it in the financial systems, look at what Larry Fink is saying. Larry Fink is saying, "We're gonna--" He says this stuff out loud, by the way. "We're gonna control you and↗

3:38:13Speaker 22And all of these people are saying this right to your face, and then you're saying, "No, no, no, no, no, they don't really mean that." Yeah, they do. And they're doing it. No, I'm not↗

3:38:22Speaker 28saying that↗

3:38:23Speaker 22they don't mean↗

3:38:24Speaker 28that. I'm not saying that. Yeah, but not as, not just that↗

3:38:26Speaker 22they're doing it, that they're saying it, but the obviousity, the fact that, the fact that ninety percent of our politicians are bought by them, the fact that a significant portion of them are making a humili- humiliation Over their country. The fact that you look everywhere and it sits-- and right now, for instance, the biggest scandal in American history, a cabal of people, the Epstein class, now we've read them and they're like, "We're controlling you," and then people are like, "Hey, don't, don't believe the thing that they just said. We're working you. It's so easy. We're just-- it's, we, we don't, we've got you figured out so much, in the words of RP McMurphy, that you don't know whether to wind↗

3:39:13Speaker 22And if you can't call this out, I'm sorry, but what else is it? Name the problem that you think is bigger than this one, and it'll, it'll definitely track back to Jewish supremacy. But it's, this, this has been done over and over again, right?↗

3:39:27Speaker 28Of course. Right? Okay, let me, let me say that I think that, I think that Jewish supremacy, just like let's say white supremacy or whatever, it's a-- it has a reality to it, and the most powerful people Who, let's say are, are Jews are among the people. Why, why, why supremacy? They↗

3:39:42@joann_mariearen't like doing anything. No. Like why are they in control or what? Well, everybody, it↗

3:39:49Speaker 28all comes, don't be, these things come in waves. I mean, I don't mean Jewish supremacy in a totally equivalent way, like you guys are the wave of white supremacy. They are in↗

3:39:58@joann_mariecontrol of everything, though.↗

3:40:01Speaker 28Well, there's a-- I, I don't deny that there's a lot of control like that, but you have to understand, I mean, the J-- the Jews have, they have a cultural pattern that has led to a lot of this. I mean, I know you know that. Yeah, what is that? Well, they've been, they've been-- With you so far? Okay, so they've had good, good schooling, they have good families, so this is the master plan. They don't know, they don't know that their schooling isn't good. Okay. Let me ask you a question.↗

3:40:31Ian MalcolmHow did they get TikTok? I'm too drunk for this↗

3:40:34Speaker 28shit. Within themselves, they have taken care of their own, society well. Okay. So, can you answer the↗

3:40:42Ian Malcolmquestion?↗

3:40:43Speaker 28What's↗

3:40:43Ian Malcolmthat? How did they get TikTok?↗

3:40:47Ian MalcolmHow did they get TikTok? Correct. Why, why, how are Jews in control of TikTok? I thought it was owned by the Chinese.↗

3:40:55Speaker 28Oh, okay. Well, I'm not, I'm, I don't know that the Jews are in control of TikTok, but who owns, who owns TikTok? What? Who, I don't know, who does own TikTok? Larry Ellison. Okay, Larry Ellison, okay, I know he owns, parent, CBS and, and all that, and so he's↗

3:41:21Ian Malcolmhaving,↗

3:41:30Speaker 21he↗

3:41:31Speaker 28has,↗

3:41:35Speaker 28I imagine he's smart, but it's a combination of things. He's, he's favored by the administration, you know, there's, there's things that all come together. But might that be↗

3:41:46Ian Malcolmsupremacy?↗

3:41:49Speaker 28It might have, yeah, it does have an element of supremacy, let's say that. Okay. Yeah, let's do. But it is possible to exaggerate the whole supremacy thing and forget that we have Trump, Stone, Miller, who, okay, so he's a Jew. We have a variety of people all around↗

3:42:06@welivein1984Donald Trump.↗

3:42:08Speaker 28That is our biggest problem. Do you deny that we have someone who would be a, Oriented toward being an authoritarian even without Jews, do you deny that? You just think he's a puppet? That's ridiculous. I mean, I mean, obviously, yeah, he's a puppet for sure.↗

3:42:23Speaker 22Yeah, definitely a puppet.↗

3:42:25Speaker 28Okay, so Trump, yeah, Trump didn't know what he was doing throughout his entire life. He hasn't had all kinds of money. Why don't you go back to the↗

3:42:31Ian Malcolm'80s when he took huge loans from the Rothschilds? Would, would you like to do that?↗

3:42:36Speaker 28But, but through-- I mean, mostly this is through, you↗

3:42:44Speaker 28Yeah, maybe Jewish oligarchy from↗

3:42:48@joann_marieRussia, but not like Russia.↗

3:42:52Speaker 28Okay, well, I just, I just think that despite the fact that you guys have some truth to what you're saying, it can be blown out of proportion. Our biggest problem in America is still Donald Trump, and Elon Musk isn't the↗

3:43:07Ian Malcolmproblem because he's subservient to Jewish supremacy.↗

3:43:11Speaker 28He is subservient to his tropes because he's so insecure. His, he goes to- Hang↗

3:43:17Ian Malcolmon, his, to his tropes? That's the suggestion. Tropes. He believes certain things about you. Oh, I know what the word means, but↗

3:43:23Speaker 28to his tropes. Yeah, so he's a slave to that. He's a slave to his own, insecurities, and he goes to who he thinks will make, that he needs to honor. And so, who was his mentor? Who was, who↗

3:43:35@joann_mariewas Donald Trump's mentor?↗

3:43:38Speaker 28Roy Cohn. What is he? So he doesn't feel confident without the help. He said, "Joe, I know that, but that doesn't prove everything, doesn't make this whole thing- " No,↗

3:43:51@joann_marieI just find it really weird that he's always like surrounded with all these Jews and also like with all these bad apples. You understand, you understand what I'm saying? I don't find it weird. It's just so, so- Actually, you understand what Roy Cohn got↗

3:44:02Ian Malcolmup and, and basically said in his committee today that, Donald Trump is subservient- To Benjamin Netanyahu, and that if anybody cares for their country, that they're gonna vote against this legislation to try and intertwine the Israeli military with the United States military. You understand that this is insane, right? That you would- Yeah. This isn't- Yeah. This isn't- No. No. Obvious to this group?↗

3:44:27Speaker 28I'm saying, yes, he, he is effectively- Partially, he, he, there is some service. And Netanyahu is a dictator like Trump, okay? There, there could defend this point↗

3:44:40Speaker 22better than fucking he↗

3:44:40Ian Malcolmcan. Exo, can I ask why you're, why are you taking this absurd bend? I feel like it'd be like you're looking at the fish and saying, "No, it's↗

3:44:49Speaker 28not in the water." This whole America First and this whole Jewish question thing is functioning as a distraction to getting something done to identify Trump as a total demagogue. We are literally identifying what is, what↗

3:45:04@joann_mariethe problem is.↗

3:45:07Speaker 28Oh, he's just a Jewish supremacist. That's what Trump is. Everything about Trump is a Jewish supremacist. So everything, it's a hundred percent.↗

3:45:15Speaker 22Doesn't have to be a hundred percent. Don't straw man. Look, hold on a second here.↗

3:45:18Speaker 28So that's what you're telling me you're telling me you're telling me my, my↗

3:45:22Speaker 22argument is by far our biggest problem and it's what's destroying Western civilization. For instance When, when you saw Zelensky, right? When you saw, obviously the CIA, Jewish Victoria Nuland, went over there and helped conspire to overthrow the government and vassalize the Ukraine, right? And then every member of the same tribe, you do realize Zelensky's Jewish, right? You do realize he was put in there by Kollamoisky and Victoria Nuland, right? You do realize that everybody in Biden's administration that shared that same tribal relationship Every single one of them that had no business leaving our borders, that includes Merrick Garland, our Attorney General, again, Chief Law Enforcement Officer of America, didn't need to go over there. And then of course, don't forget Janet Yellen, our Chief Accountant, the Secretary of Treasury, never needed to cross our borders. All these people, the guy responsible for our borders, of all people that shouldn't leave, right? Majorca shouldn't leave America, went over-- every one of them went over there and kissed the ring. And by the way, a whole lot more. And then a↗

3:46:23Speaker 22One of them were Jewish. And then of course, you saw the Larry Fink over there with BlackRock, and of course, they've created yet another, like they did in Bolshevik Russia, like they've done in every civilization. They've created another fratricidal war between these beautiful young men that have died by the millions, and then these, these money grubbing, they're absolute criminals are over there laughing and planning how they're gonna carve up this country like the Christmas turkey. And don't forget, they made a crap ton, ton of money on the way down Down, down, down, where they took that country, which is nothing more than a graveyard with a flag, and now they're gonna make money going-- after the death of the country is over, they're gonna make money with all the things they're gonna do to rebuild and all of this, and you can see this over and over again. The reason, my friend, and I'm sorry that you don't see this, the reason why, it's not that they've un-- that they've gained such wealth, is not because they're ge-- geniuses, otherwise, where's their Beethoven↗

3:47:23Speaker 22Sorry, no. The reason you're talking this, the hold on, hold on. The reason why their main skill is to, is outgroup psychopathy. They're the only people in the world, not the Iranians, not the Chinese, not anybody else, this modus operandi is to go into civilizations over and over and over again and undermine that civilization. They coalesce the malcontents, it's total outgroup psychopathy, they do everything to weaken that country to strengthen themselves. Now, what kind of relationship in biology does that- Express, a parasitic-- Hold on, hold on, a parasitic relationship. And the idea that you're watching these people absolutely control our media, when you, we just mentioned, the idea you didn't know Larry Ellison bought TikTok. And think about it, when he owned CBS, who did he put in charge? Even Glenn Greenwald, who's Jewish, is making this point. It's just about people that are serving Israel. It's just about people that, that basically serve Jewish supremacy. They're completely unqualified. They just fired a guy for saying, "You are completely unqualified." You have no business doing this job. And of course, they're all members of the same tribe over and over again. Who controls ninety percent of the porn industry, same tribe. Everything that deracinates, that deracinates the morals and the culture of your civilization and strengthens them, and they've done it for so long, and you're sitting here going, "No, that's not the big problem. It is the every problem you just mentioned is downstream from that one." I'm sorry, but if you, let, let me just finish this. And if you believe in the right-left↗

3:48:53Speaker 22My friend, and the idea that if Trump is out of office, which he will be in the next two years, and the, oh, it's all gonna be gone. It's just Trump. It's not gonna change at all. It isn't↗

3:49:03Speaker 28just Trump.↗

3:49:04Speaker 22Well, you were saying, oh, the dictator Trump, he's gonna be gone. This guy's gonna be gone. No, he's not gonna↗

3:49:09Speaker 28be gone. Sure,↗

3:49:10Speaker 22oh yeah, he's, yes, he is, he's gonna be gone.↗

3:49:12Speaker 28Because whether he's gone or not, they have put the system into place↗

3:49:20Speaker 22that is Hold on, who does, who, who does Peter Thiel work for? Who does he-- He says this, Israel. How can you not know this? Palantir, what this is Israeli software. My God, man, wake up. I mean, if you don't get this, look, let me ask you, David.↗

3:49:39Speaker 28Let me ask you, David, do you, do you think that there are races between the human beings? Are there races? Does that exist or are they just ethnicities?↗

3:49:47Speaker 22There are, well, races and ethnicities, yes, there are both those things.↗

3:49:50Speaker 28Oh↗

3:49:53Speaker 28Doesn't recognize race, okay? So there are ethnic differences. Now, you're, you're talking-- I don't think Jews think of themselves,↗

3:49:59Speaker 22you don't think of themselves, Jews as thinking themselves something separate. You don't notice that they keep calling themselves? What's-- Okay, doesn't matter↗

3:50:06Speaker 28what a good proportion of a population thinks of themselves, 'cause people have stupid, stupid thoughts, okay? You don't↗

3:50:12Speaker 22know how consciousness works? Of course it does. If everybody with a blue dot in their head thought that they were special and they could kill everybody else, then we'd all be Right now I'm teaching you how to think.↗

3:50:25Speaker 28Yes, but most people don't-- Most people in the population aren't just gonna say, "I'm a certain race." I mean, maybe, okay, let's say forty percent don't say they're Jewish. But a Jew, a Jew is a cultural definition as well. Okay. So it's an ethnic definition, it's a cultural thing. Right. With you so far. But it's-- But race is an illusion by a lot of people.↗

3:50:47Speaker 22Well, listen, we're not biologically- This illusion is destroying Western civilization, okay? We're not↗

3:50:52Speaker 28biologically divided into race.↗

3:50:55Speaker 22Listen, Jewish supremacy is destroying Western civilization, and for you to come along and dissemble, 'cause that's what this is. I call this the abyss. Listen, let me, listen, this is philosophy talking. I call this the abyss of, of no meaning, because when someone says, "Well, that just doesn't even exist," That-- do you think the people themselves that identify as this group, do you think that they are going to evaporate? Do you think that you can conjure reality out of changing words? If you de-racinate the meaning of the word, it doesn't stop the problem, does it? If we say, "Well, there's really no such thing as, there's no such thing as mosquitoes, and they don't really exist as a separate species," but if we're all dying of malaria, we'll go, "Well, thanks for your help on that, but can we still,↗

3:51:41Speaker 22Really, really reductionist, I'm sorry, but it's just, it's just silly.↗

3:51:46Speaker 28So, so what, what makes for the glue that binds all these people to conspire to be Jewish supremacists? What, what is that? Is, is, if it's, is it, is it a racial thing? It's called the↗

3:51:58Speaker 17Talmud.↗

3:51:59Speaker 28That's actually a↗

3:52:00Speaker 27really good question, honestly. I think a lot of people,↗

3:52:05@shadowofezrayeah, if you wanna answer that. Yeah. Yeah, so guys, hold on, guys. Before you answer this question, let's not ridicule the person just for asking a question. Just explain it to them calmly. Yeah. Don't make fun of them. I just said the↗

3:52:14Speaker 29question is silly. Yeah, it's David. David, that's fine. David is doing↗

3:52:18@joann_marieit.↗

3:52:20Speaker 29David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David, David,↗

3:52:25Speaker 22David, David, David That morally we can lie to you, morally we can cheat you, morally we can rape you. Like the idea that there are different codes, and this of course is from whence comes out group psychopathy. Everybody thinks that the idea of by any means necessary was invented by another Jewish person, Karl Marx, when he wrote those, when he wrote that in the Communist Manifesto. No, no, no. That actually, the genesis of that is in the Taliban. Now compare that with the founders of Western civilization. If you read every Greek philosopher, all of them, they so their, their disparity of their beliefs is very, very expansive. They disagree on so many things, but the one thing that every single one of them doesn't believe is that the ends justify the means. That what's good for the, what's good for the inside group is fine, even at the expense of the outside group. You see, the idea that everybody has a divine spark isn't Islamic idea, it isn't a Christian idea, it isn't a Buddhist idea, it isn't a Hindu idea. You know one group of people that don't share that? Jewish people, if you read the Talmud, it basically says we can do whatever we want. If we steal from them, we don't even have to pay it back. We can lie to them, we can rape them. And by the way, part of the whole Talmudic thing was, "And don't tell them this, don't share this information to this." And lastly, the reason why that we can do all these things is because we're the master race, we're the chosen people. Gosh, how could things work out badly when people openly say this? You Glenn Greenwald was in a space where we ask about this. Is, yeah, they tell us this stuff from when we're a child. Like this stuff is beat into us when we're a child. Yes, yes, that is the culture, my friend. That is a real culture of outgroup psychopathy, and it has to come to an end.↗

3:54:21Speaker 28So do you have a personal- Do, do you have a personal circle that includes any Jewish friends? What are you asking the question? What does it matter? What, what I'm saying, don't just assume that I came from the bowels of hell. Is what I'm saying objectively true or false? Hold on. So if, if let's just assume the Talmud is a perversion, okay? And let's also- We're not assuming,↗

3:54:46@joann_mariewe know it is. Yeah, but↗

3:54:47Speaker 28the Talmud isn't, isn't really an ancient kind of a thing, isn't it? It's not a- No, but today kind of a thing. No, I'm sick of this guy. I↗

3:55:00Speaker 22don't, you know, I don't↗

3:55:04Speaker 27Can I, can I also try to- We just had a major,↗

3:55:06Speaker 22I'll stop here, Mays. We just had a major, powerful person, Ian, I don't remember her name, saying the future of Europe needs to be Talmudic. I mean,↗

3:55:15Speaker 28she's just↗

3:55:15Speaker 22literally said something- There's always gonna be some↗

3:55:17Speaker 17kind of underlining. Yeah, yeah. There's↗

3:55:18Speaker 22always gonna be something added. The↗

3:55:19Ian Malcolmhead of the EU, and, and she claimed that they have Talm- Yeah, Talmudic values in the EU.↗

3:55:25Speaker 22Yeah, and I was always- I, I Truth is objective, right? So there is an objective truth, irrespective of our incapacity to know it or how fuzzy it is, or how difficult it is, or how nebulous it is. You have to believe in, in objective truth, first of all. So don't try to undermine it by playing the word game, and don't go subjectivist with your saying, "Well, gosh, you know, do you know these people?" None of this Begin with the idea that truth is objective, right? And the second is, you have been from the moment you were born, it's geared into your mind to do everything you can, like a child with spaghetti legs when you try to put them down. You try, it's very, very difficult for you, I can see, to very much comprehend the most obvious fact to everyone that awakens to it. So maybe it's not time for you, but if you just listen and think and think, you'll realize, oh gosh, it's obviously the biggest problem.↗

3:56:23Speaker 28There is supremacy in all groups around the world. There's, there's a certain kind of-- No, no, there isn't. Fanatical ideology that, that-- Tell me how white supremacy is↗

3:56:33Speaker 22hurting. Like, we're the dominant people in our culture, so shouldn't, shouldn't we, wouldn't we have the vast majority if we had a supremacy problem? Wouldn't we not allow this stuff? I'm not trying↗

3:56:41Speaker 28to argue that whites are in a supremacist position right now. I'm not arguing that. But why↗

3:56:45Speaker 22wouldn't they be? We're the vast majority. Wouldn't it be easy if Basically suicidal empathy and allow these people to take advantage of it. If we instead were white supremacists, don't two different kinds of supremacy cancel each other out? Aren't they mutually exclusive? If we were white supremacists, then we wouldn't allow this for a second, right?↗

3:57:04Speaker 28I wouldn't say that logically. I literally just gave you the logical belief system. White supremacy can be expressed in a pure logical form.↗

3:57:14Speaker 22I just presented it to you in pure logical form, right? No, but two kinds of supremacy, different races are by definition mutually exclusive, aren't they not?↗

3:57:24Speaker 28Well, who's winning? So they're-- No, no, answer my↗

3:57:27Speaker 22question. Listen, pretend you're my student and I'm trying to teach you something. Logically, do two different racial supremacist points of view, are they mutually exclusive? Yes. Okay, thank you.↗

3:57:43Ian Malcolmit's also worth noting, David, it was, of all people, Michael Wolfe, who said, "War between the Jews and the non-Jews, the Jews are presently winning." That was in an email to Jeffrey Epstein. And so, Exo, do you think perhaps some of the world's most powerful Jews view there as being a war between the Jews and everybody else, and believe that they are winning?↗

3:58:11Speaker 28I think that's a pretty generalized thing. Perhaps they do, but there are sociopathic individuals among the most highly successful people in any ethnicity, in any group or country. There are sociopathic people↗

3:58:26Ian Malcolmout there that are saying that the whites are defeating the Jews.↗

3:58:31Speaker 28But look, if, if Jews are in power in most countries and that sort of thing Yeah, if you wanna make the argument, no, it's not, but what I'm saying is that there are sociopathic people who rise to the top everywhere, okay? So that is a problem. So there is a Jewish supremacy problem. They have criminal organizations↗

3:58:49@joann_marieall over the world with Hezbollah and the other one, like they're literally criminal organizations. It's a global problem.↗

3:58:58Speaker 28Yeah, the-but there are, there are other main people who are problems who are not Jews, you know? and right now America's the problem. Are they in bed with the Jews? I don't believe that Trump has to follow what the Jews want him to do. Seriously, I really don't. Yeah, seriously. I think he can stand up to- How can you say that on a↗

3:59:17Ian Malcolmrecorded space?↗

3:59:19Speaker 28Yeah, he, he isn't going to be assassinated because of that. He was just, he was just quoted↗

3:59:25Ian Malcolmas screaming at Netanyahu because the entire world hates him supposedly, and he is being dragged through the mud by him. What are you talking about?↗

3:59:34Speaker 28That's, that's his own problem. He doesn't, he doesn't- You don't get to play↗

3:59:38Ian Malcolmthese word games and say something's not happening when I point out that it is, say that's his problem. Yeah,↗

3:59:42Speaker 28I do. So he, he doesn't-- That's his problem because he allows it to be his problem. Wait, but you just said it wasn't happening. That isn't his personal problem. His character disorder. You understand, you↗

3:59:53Ian Malcolmjust moments ago said it's not happening, and now you're saying it's his problem.↗

4:00:00Ian Malcolmproblem that it's happening?↗

4:00:03Speaker 30I'm not saying that he's forced into, being↗

4:00:07Ian Malcolmback on the thing he just went off of. It's not Serbian↗

4:00:09Speaker 30I'm not saying he's subservient to the Jews. You've changed your position↗

4:00:12Ian Malcolmtwice on the same issue. And wait a minute,↗

4:00:14Speaker 30I'm saying, I'm saying that the Jews have not forced him to be the way he is in terms of being subservient to them. He is all for it. So, so what is↗

4:00:24Ian Malcolmforcing him? Is it, is it, is it a flush this fucking guy in the shower, or is it a flush this fucking guy in the toilet right now? What, what is it that's forcing his hand?↗

4:00:34Speaker 30It's his own psychology. It's his own psychology. He is a slave to Netanyahu↗

4:00:39Ian Malcolmbecause his own psychology is-- Is this like the angels and the demons on his shoulders? Circular one's like yelling at him. I mean,↗

4:00:45Speaker 30I mean, he is that bad of a human being. I mean, you're that bad at↗

4:00:48Ian Malcolmlogic, seemingly. This is wild.↗

4:00:50Speaker 30No. No, he, it is his weakness. No, I mentioned something,↗

4:00:53Speaker 31please. This is circular logic. I'd love to talk about X, but it was just like spurring off a weight of a long time.↗

4:01:00Speaker 32Just, just shoot me in the head, bro. Flush this fucking guy before I kill myself, bro. This guy sucks, he's retarded. I could argue his point better than him. I'm sorry to bother you, but he's just so retarded. Fuck it, flush him, it's over, bro. It's over.↗

4:01:10Speaker 31He's like Trump is bad because Trump is bad, I mean, the space is not- Roger Stone,↗

4:01:23Speaker 30Roger Stone isn't a Jew, but Roger Stone is the prime, is the primary figure. Look, let me know-↗

4:01:30Speaker 33Look, I'll go- Alright, guys, we're getting a little bit off topic. That's- Algorithm is still the thing, I understand. Jewish supremacy is a hot topic. I'm,↗

4:01:39Ian MalcolmI'm just gonna remove the guy, it's, it's unbelievable. He, he went back on his own position within the course of thirty seconds, twice. Nah, I mean, I wouldn't. He went from left to right, back to left, with, within, it couldn't have been more than thirty seconds. It was unbelievable.↗

4:01:53Speaker 33The prob- The problem with him is he just, he's, he has what you call Trump derangement syndrome. He wants to blame Trump for everything. And he watches CNN all day, but I still wouldn't have kicked him, I would have kept him around, just threw him off the speaker panel. But anyway, I didn't↗

4:02:09Speaker 34remove him from the room, I, I removed him from the speaker panel. Oh,↗

4:02:12Speaker 33okay.↗

4:02:13Speaker 34Do you wanna go to the next speaker? Alpha's been waiting. Okay, let's go to Alpha. What I will say really quickly is that David↗

4:02:19Ian MalcolmNietzsche, if anybody's not following him, you're, you're out of your mind. He's, he's, David, I, you're top three on this entire platform for me. I absolutely love you.↗

4:02:28Speaker 33He reminds me of↗

4:02:28Speaker 35my top three.↗

4:02:29Speaker 34He reminds me,↗

4:02:30Speaker 33he reminds me of the last boss in the Matrix, the architect.↗

4:02:36Speaker 33Okay, except he's helping us take it apart. Exactly. But let's go to Alpha. He's been waiting for a while, and I hate making people↗

4:02:44Speaker 31Thank you guys. I'm sorry to butt in like I did, but I just couldn't take it anymore, and I was really keen to say g'day to my old buddy David Nish here. Unfortunately, and I apologize again, I had a co-host one day that pissed off David Nish, and he's never been back since. And I hope one day I may pop on the radar again and be raced by Professor Nish. But it's great to hear you. Aren't you the one that called me↗

4:03:10Speaker 35the space laser?↗

4:03:12Speaker 31Yeah, yeah, I still, my wife,↗

4:03:14Speaker 35my wife still↗

4:03:14Speaker 31uses that. Oh, great. And you know, there's another set of, alt-right freedom fighters that still are running space lasers. I think they're up to space 65 now. So it really caught on with them as well. You've become a, a underground cult following. Yeah, that's why. So nobody↗

4:03:31Speaker 35else knows that on this, on the space we're on now, but my wife actually makes fun, and she'll, she'll say, 'Cause she heard you doing it↗

4:03:42Speaker 35Obviously. And so anyway, I don't know. Sorry everybody, I just-- Go ahead, Alpha.↗

4:03:46Speaker 31So it's a shame that I think one day it'll, it'll be, you know, God's plan that David left us alone for a bit and he may return again, once more. Oh, I'll, I'll come back. I'll do it. Thank you. And in fact, can I mention, Billzy Bob Good down there, in fact, had to offer an olive branch to the hosts, Ian, 'cause I must have pissed him off, and I've been blocked for↗

4:04:12Speaker 31I don't know why, but let's go. I don't think you're blocked. If,↗

4:04:14@joann_marieif you weren't blocked, you wouldn't be able to come up to the space.↗

4:04:18Speaker 31Well, somehow Billzy Bob reached out an olive branch. Thank you for having me back. I just wanted to quickly mention, in the purple pill, in line with what David, Nish, and I used to talk about, the freedom movement in Australia is slowly bubbling, and I'd love to think that it might happen here before Ireland or England or Canada, but let's all try all of Works and totally in line with what Professor Nish is saying is, let's call out these strange Game of Thrones that we see around us and, just quietly and politely talk about alternatives. So to keep it short for now, my buddy and I have started Australia's newest political party. It has a size of two, it's me and him, but it's called the Secessionist Front, and our only policy is that we want landowners to be able to secede from Australia. That's the quietest way we can vote with our feet and say, "I'm sick of the social contract, I'm done, and I want a better deal." Now whatever that deal looks like, people say, "Oh, my roads," or "my bins," like people literally say, "Who will collect my bins?"↗

4:05:28Speaker 31so there's a whole bunch of libertarian talking points around that, but I'll just keep it short for now and thank you for, the space, and I'll stay tuned and I'll chime in again soon. Thanks. Thank you very much for that.↗

4:05:40Speaker 33Alright, let's go quickly to Dine. Dine's been waiting.↗

4:05:45Speaker 36Can you guys hear me better now?↗

4:05:47@joann_marieYes, so much better.↗

4:05:49Speaker 36Yeah, it was, it was something with my earbuds. My, my, my apologies. Alright, so, first time listener, first time caller.↗

4:05:57Speaker 36yeah, so I'm gonna sidestep the politics, and I kinda wanna talk about when I first got into this room, what I was hearing about, when you guys were talking about, organization and what you can do, and, you guys were talking about also, artificial intelligence and the surveilance track and all that.↗

4:06:21Speaker 36I think the best thing Is something that, like, kinda happened to me, what I did. now, I grew up poor, didn't really have a lot of money, had to get a GED, ended up dropping out of college twice, but, you know, I've traveled around, was able to accrue a good bit of money and work all over the country, you know, What really helped me was someone introduced me to something called the Trivium, which, I'm not talking about politics, 'cause there's a huge separation between the liberal, classical liberal arts and liberal parties and stuff like that, right? But there's the Trivium and Quadrivium, and the Trivium broke down to, you know, the basics, the grammar, the logic, the rhetoric, and learning to distinguish those. So, for me, I would strongly suggest always refreshing that, and that's something that I actually do in my life, like I'll, I You know, there's only so much one can remember in a lifetime. even when I do my programming on the side here, you know, there's stuff that I have like written years ago that I look at and I'm like, "Oh, what the hell was I doing? Okay, thank God I wrote notes." You know? So,↗

4:07:32Speaker 36I think as far as empowerment goes and coming up with ideas and plans, personal accountability is first. And, we were talking about Taking inspiration from nature before, and the one that always hit me was one that I realized 'cause the, the river I grew up, next to was like very polluted, and the idea that I, I kind of noticed is like if you take a fish out of the polluted water and put it in a clean tank, over a long period of time, that fish will get clean, but if you put that fish back in the same environment, the fish will get dirty again, 'cause of mercury and lead and whatnot, right? So there's a huge accountability on the pond The fish, but there's also accountability upon the environment, and they have to go hand in hand in a balance.↗

4:08:18Speaker 36And that's what I would like, I just wanted to comment on. That's my spiel.↗

4:08:21Speaker 35It's a pretty good↗

4:08:21Speaker 33analogy. Thanks for that, buddy. Let's get the, let's go to Nico and then right after that. Go ahead, Nico.↗

4:08:29Ian MalcolmAnd, and thank you for coming up as, a, a first time speaker. As you mentioned, I, I always love when we have new voices on here, and I know it takes, it takes a lot, to kinda put yourself out on that limb,↗

4:08:40Speaker 33just↗

4:08:40Ian Malcolmwhen↗

4:08:40Speaker 33it comes to- Rob, Rob was a first time speaker, he had a lot of interesting things to say. So thank you also,↗

4:08:49Speaker 33Rob,↗

4:08:53Speaker 37Hey guys, thanks for having me on. I'm also a first time speaker here. I'm not so sure if this is a question, there's probably a question in there somewhere. but that guy that was arguing with David, he brought up that the argument of race doesn't exist, and I've always kind of looked at this in, I think a way that I haven't really heard a lot. There's, there's something about human psychology, and I don't know where exactly it originates from, I can kinda track it back to the fact that we're, we're a better species than animals, but↗

4:09:35Speaker 37we, we seem to take it too far to the point where we remove ourselves from taxonomical categorizations because we're the only species that we use that term for. Like, I don't understand why people don't see race as breeds, and I was wondering if anyone could give me a little insight on that. I'm sure David might have a little bit to say about it.↗

4:10:00Ian MalcolmWell, and, and, let's go right to him. The, the one thing I would just say is that the, the answer directly ties to the very thing that we were arguing with that person about, which is the, the concept of supremacy, and I say that because there's clearly a group that differentiates themselves And I, I would state that it's a religious, a cultural, and a genetic aspect that they clearly view themselves as, and I say that 'cause within that group, there's a whole lot of them that aren't religious by any capacity, and yet they refer to them as part of that same club, right? So obviously there's something that goes far beyond just the religious aspects of it. And you also can't say that it's just cultural, because if anybody here in the speaker panel just puts a menorah onto their desk, well, doesn't, doesn't it make you part of the same So there's something else that's going on there, and what that group that is in power has basically done is to weaponize pop culture and the media and academia and your technology in every aspect of everything to convince you that those very obvious differences don't exist, and those differences are immense. It's, it's not just Skin color, and I know a lot of people like to reduct the conversation to that, it's a very obvious one, but the, these realities that, that, again, these are all commonly accepted. I did a space with JFG, the, the Canadian geneticist on this very subject, and he basically said up until around the year two thousand, science agreed about everything that I'm about to describe, which is that genetics are very real, human beings are very different, the races are very different, it's not just aesthetics. It is the, the way that they process, the way that they think, the way that they behave. This isn't an all everything is anything, right? But that there are directionally, let's say, differences that are beyond just observable, they're measured, they have been, measured over the decades. And when it comes to a lot of these behavioral patterns, there's both very positive and promising aspects, right? what would they say, you know, black men have rhythm, white men can't jump. Those Those things are perfectly fine to say, but to note that there might be IQ variances amongst those races or temperamental issues, or, for example, the, proclivity for crime, right? These things have to be completely shrugged off. And so why is that the case? Why do people seem to be completely willing to say, "That's a German Shepherd, and that is a Poodle, and that is a Pit Bull, and those are three very different things that behave very differently, and they have very different purposes, and one of them is great around children." And if you put the other around it, your kid might die. And we're perfectly reason-- it's perfectly reasonable, and we're perfectly willing to note those differences. And yet, if you then try to apply those same types of macro-level sentiments to the races Well, in some cases, people are totally fine with it. They will say, "Oh, and, and in fact, we can look at this, I'll, I'll give you biology through a biological level, right?" And I say that because if you look at dating behaviors, look at, look at the, the behavior of the sexes when it comes to their preferences in the races. Women don't find Asian men as attractive. That is just a standard. Now, that is for America. These are for Western studies that I'm primarily laying out, and this isn't relevant for in those countries. But in the West, women are less likely to be attracted to Asian men, and if you look into the why, it has to do with the perception of things like masculinity, of testosterone, of, of other behavioral things that women might find attractive. Again, that's not an all- Asian men are anything, comment. But that is at the macro level, right? So there's a biological proclivity to certain selection behaviors, for example. Now, the thing that's most curious about it is that we recognize that those differences exist, we recognize within society that they have a pull on us and how we view the rest of the world, but we're told that if we believe that those things exist, that we are a racist, which again brings us back to the question of why, and it's the very same group of people That believe themselves superior to everybody else. They are trying to deracinate our ability to perceive the differences, in my opinion, because they want us to be blended all into a nebulous superset of the "quote unquote" goy. Right? And to do that, they need to essentially create the mongrel race that is, as part of the Kollergi plan, right? Richard von Kollergi, the count, who was not Jewish, but his wife was, his first wife, in fact, and he described this idea that the Jews would essentially deracinate in a physical sense the very people that they were looking to rule over by making them incapable of recognizing the differences amongst one another or even having those differences. Because if you look the same and think the same and essentially view yourself as the same, well, then it's very easy for you to be ruled over by a central uniform source. Whereas if you view yourself as distinctly American or English or German and you're any of those places with a global totalitarian entity, you will say, "You don't get to rule over us. We are us." Right? So they wanna remove all of that, and they've done an unbelievable job, which is why so many people are incapable of recognizing the differences in, in the races. Right? And those individuals, for what it's worth, they are wrong. It would be no different than saying a pit bull and the poodle are the same thing. They're both dogs, they have no differences. The differences in their coats, and their fur, and their presentation, that's all there is. They're otherwise identical. That's what they are trying to do at a racial level with all of us, and it Insane, especially in the United States, where for what it's worth, one group of people create an unbelievable amount of violent crime, while those that are in particular white and Asian commit extremely low levels of violent crime. How low are those levels? Well, so much so that if you go through the FBI databases and through crime records, you're gonna find a whole lot of people who are clearly Hispanic or Black that are listed as white. And- Why is that? Because in a not so distant future, they want people to look at the crime statistics and say, "Well, look, they're all the same." Because otherwise, if you go into the FBI crime stats right now, you will find that one group of people, no, it's not the whites, that they dominate essentially all of the criminal statistics. So they need to literally take the most obvious pieces of truth and of data, they need to manipulate all of it, they need to brainwash everybody through propaganda on the television, and in doing so, they need to convince you that you are No different than anybody else, regardless of genetics, regardless of ethnicity, regardless of race. And so that, that is fundamentally where all of this is coming from, David. I'm not sure if, if you totally disagree or agree, but I'd be very curious for your thoughts, my friend.↗

4:17:07Speaker 35No, and I love Nico taking it to the idea of, 'cause I've done that with dogs. I'm like, "Well, why isn't you're readily willing to say that a German Shepherd or a Border Collie is smarter than a Boxer?" Of course. What is the problem here? Ideology is a truth inhibitor, and that's really what the problem is. In fact, I've done this in the direction of Japanese culture, 'cause they're highly intelligent and they definitely have their wonderful and very distinct extended phenotype, and when you talk about that, they don't have a problem with it. Then you realize this person doesn't meet the base level of rationality, which is to have the pleasure of agreeing with themselves. And by the way, that's why-- so the way that I know Nico for everyone else, and I recommend You follow him, is he does spaces on language, and then by extension, how we comport ourselves and carry forth ideas. I felt that there was some undermining quality there with what that gentleman was doing besides being maybe a little afraid. And the undermining is, if you look at, Schopenhauer's thirty-eight ways to illegitimately win an argument, which is kind of hilarious, only a pessimist would write such a thing. I know them all. I'm sorry, but I do, I do know them all. In the words of T.S. Eliot, I've known them all already↗

4:18:21Speaker 35It's pathetic, really. So the, the language game doesn't work when people are trying to reason through an idea. Look, pattern recognition is a big thing. Are they being consistent? So you're absolutely right to ask the question, you go, "Okay, wait a second, now, do you think the dogs are all the same? Like, let's, let's get you outside of what might be an ideological sort of bent and see if you still can be consistent. And of course, usually the answer is no.↗

4:18:50Speaker 37So I, I like the example because it's true with dogs, but I think it's narratively a bad example for the layman, because I feel like it's too narrow, I believe we could expand it as much as it could possibly expanded, because like human beings are the only form of life in general that we do it with. We taxonomically categorize all other forms of life, from plants to fungi to animals, like everything, and it's, it's just that fact that I have trouble getting my head wrapped around how it's been so effective On people,↗

4:19:39Speaker 37to just basically separate us from the entire evolutionary rubric that applies to literally everything↗

4:19:46Speaker 35else. And if I could just help me out here, are you saying the fact that we're not sort of permitted to openly taxonomize, or I'm having a little trouble knowing where you're going here?↗

4:19:57Speaker 37Yeah, I'm, I'm just saying I, I have a hard time wrapping my head around how people have been so effectively propagandized into the differentiation between race and breed and taxonomical categorization. I mean, I think it has something to do↗

4:20:13Ian Malcolmwith... Keep in mind, half, well, maybe not half, but something like thirty to forty percent of the country in the United States currently believe in the concept essentially of open borders, which as little as fifteen or twenty years ago, even Barack Obama Obama thought was unbelievably crazy to, to even suggest, right? So in a single generation, you can basically program a massive chunk of a populace to believe in something that is, I, I mean, think about it, what could be more insane than suggesting a country has a, a right to a border, right? And, and yet even that has been completely just dismantled in a very short period of time. And so, to your question, none, none of this is based in logic or reason or even in self-preservation. It's, it's merely just, it, It's indoctrination at the, at its most basic level.↗

4:21:01Speaker 38Well, and the fact that temporary, temporary visas like don't help that at all, they actually exacerbate it. So, you know, any, you know, H-1B or something that, you know, has come into the country since the year two thousand has only exacerbated that, like every problem that was on top of that.↗

4:21:23Speaker 35Well, I would also say the answer's a little bit complicated for, for Nico's question, and I, Emiro, I don't know if you can speak, but I think you might, you might have something to say about this. Because we think of all these other animals as deterministic, right? We think that their genetic characteristics is just going to express itself in the cyclical existence within which they're trapped. But human beings are volitional, and we build knowledge structures and concepts, and of course, we have brilliant people of all races, you know? So the- Capacity for people, irrespective of their genetic background, they have the capacity to reason, right? And yet, this isn't mutually exclusive to the idea that race is a real thing and that racial realism does express itself on average in terms of tendencies, in terms of behaviors, and ultimately in terms of their extended phenotype, which means how they affect their environment, interact with each other, as well as people outside of their group. So that's where the con-- the, for human- Humans, you're right, Nick, it gets a little more complicated for humans because of that volitional thing. What do you think about that?↗

4:22:31Speaker 37yes and no. Like, I lean towards yes because We're a lot more conscious than other creatures, and we do have that divine spark. I think it's just the knowledge of having the divine spark that we separate ourselves, both consciously and subconsciously, so much from the animal kingdom, even though we're a part of it.↗

4:22:59Speaker 37So yeah, that's, that's basically what I think about it. I don't know enough about a lot of different fields of science, like I know a good amount, but like you said, this is very complex.↗

4:23:11Speaker 38You wouldn't maybe consider, yeah, some Islamic country in sub-Saharan Africa to, Rome, would you? Like that, that, that won't be it. No, not at all. Well,↗

4:23:27Ian Malcolmand, and Nico, I think one of the other pieces is that, if, if we presume, and I think it's safe to say, that a lot of the people that are in these conversations, they're trying to aim for something that is good, pure, and they try to essentially give the benefit of the doubt, literally and figuratively, and I say that because as a result, you know, for, for, for animals in particular, right? People are going to be deterministic, like David In their perception that something is going to behave this way, it's safe to presume that this is going to happen, right? But not all tigers are going to eat everybody, right? We know this because of Siegfried and Roy, right? So there are exceptions and outliers, and I think the problem is, I'm sure there's a great white shark out there that's never thought about eating anybody. It's, it's, it's like the, the, the shark in Finding Nemo, right? Fisher friends, right? It's, it's the good, nice one, but at Grow. If you're in the water, you're going to say, "I need to get out because that's a big thing that can eat me," right? Whereas with human beings, we are programmed to not necessarily want to think in those black and white terms. This is bad, because we're, we are of course going to note that there's constant exceptions to all of these things, right? I talk about Yao Ming and the fact that, you know, there is a very, very tall, or I guess he was, a very tall Chinese basketball player, but on average, the Chinese don't The NBA, right? They're also not particularly all that tall, right? And yet he certainly was, and so there's all these exceptions, and I think that's part of this issue is that for a lot of individuals, it's very uncomfortable to think that there might be macro differences across the races with things like IQ or temperament, right? Because it, it-- there's no other way to think about it. It's just mean. It sounds mean. To say, "Oh, I'm sorry, because you are this way, you're probably inclined to be like this," right? Instead, we would like to say, "No, no, no, you're capable of anything. Just put your best foot forward." And so I think that's part of the problem is that there's been the programming on one side, and to that idea of, of kind of this just empathy, where, where our society, high trust society, it wants to go out of its way to be supportive, right? That, that has essentially been weaponized against us to guilt↗

4:25:46Ian MalcolmInsane, which is that we're all the same. Obviously we're not. Walk through New York City, you're gonna be taller than a lot of people, shorter than a lot of people, you're gonna be more athletic, more intelligent, better, whatever. There's a million different ways in which you're gonna differ from all those people. The notion that we are all the same, that it's just blank slate theory, everyone's born with the exact same capability to be equally smart, equally athletic, equally capable of being in the NBA. I don't know about you guys, but I'm not↗

4:26:16Ian MalcolmNo, I'm not equally capable of playing at, at that level of professional basketball. And that's totally fine, right? But if you were to say, "Sorry, man, you're just not gonna be a rocket scientist," that's apparently bigoted, that's racist, that has been programmed into us. And, and, I think it was either Hitchclap or David that said this. You know, if people wanna say that IQ doesn't-- it's not real, it's not a real thing, well, go, go and test the top engineers and top rocket scientists and top You're not gonna find a whole lot of eighty-five IQ individuals in those fields. You're probably not gonna find any. You'll probably find a whole bunch that are one hundred and fifteen, one hundred and twenty, one hundred and thirty, maybe higher, right? And, and there's probably also for what it's worth, if you then look across those high IQ individuals, you're probably going to note that there's going to be a racial dynamic to some of them. And again, that's very uncomfortable for a lot of people to accept, but just because something's uncomfortable doesn't mean it's not true↗

4:27:16Ian MalcolmMore comfortable at saying things that are a little bit uncomfortable at times, a- but we've been programmed away from that.↗

4:27:24@shadowofezraHey, Ian, my night has come to an end, but before I leave, I gotta make an, I gotta quarterback this whole situation today. So guys, everybody in the, in the spaces, listen closely. This is my second spaces with Ian Malcolm. If you're not following him, do that right now, turn your notifications on, do all that good stuff, subscribe to him, whatever. But here's the thing, this is episode two. We started with episode Episode one, which was basically just The Matrix, right? This is Episode two called Breaking the Matrix. I wanna do a third episode, which is gonna be called Breaking the Code with The Matrix, and I wanna expand the spaces with a third guest, which I'm gonna do everything in my power to bring. Ian Malcolm, you know who I'm talking about. His name is The Parsifal. He's actually the person who cracked the original Code in the algorithm for X, which is still causing problems today. So we're gonna actually do everything in our power to try to convince this guy who doesn't really like joining spaces. I don't even think he's on X that much, but we're gonna try it. I'm gonna do everything in my power to bring him in, going to interview him publicly, go line by line What the problem is with this algorithm, and he can explain it to us in layman's term and then offer the solutions. And this guy has been in touch with the ex-team and all, even the new guy, Nikita, and they just don't wanna listen to him for whatever political reason. So we're gonna try to put it out there. So that will be episode three. Stay tuned. I will message him immediately as I log off right now 'cause I gotta go to work tomorrow. Probably gonna sleep for like four hours. That's fine. so breaking the code with the matrix.↗

4:28:56@shadowofezraWe'll decide, I'll let him decide what time and stuff after we get all the preparations ready, guys. Is that okay? Ian, you're good?↗

4:29:06Ian MalcolmOh, absolutely, my friend, count me in. And, and I, I, I love Parsval, one wonderful individual, really, really nice guy, and I, I, I did a space with him in the, the past that I'll put in the purple pill if anybody wants to listen to it.↗

4:29:17@shadowofezraYeah, but I want this space to be more like, Not like a regular spaces, I want it to be like, special feature, like, you know, we're gonna sp- like, in this spaces, you know, we went a little bit off topic, we went to Israel and Jewish supremacy, which it's, it always leads back to that, which is not a problem for me, but I'm saying in that spaces, let's keep it just within the code. We already know who the architects are, we name them all the time, we know that, but we gotta crack the code that they built. Unle- unless we don't↗

4:29:50@shadowofezraThose things go together, and it starts with bringing the guy who actually broke the code. So I guess this is like our trilogy, Ian. I don't know if there's gonna be a part four, we'll see.↗

4:30:00@joann_marieI hope there is. Sorry. Yeah, have a good night, everybody. Always wonderful having you, Shadow. You're absolutely brilliant, and you did such a great job as well, so thank you.↗

4:30:10Ian MalcolmAbsolutely, the return of the Jedi with, with Shadow.↗

4:30:13@joann_marieThank you. Have a good↗

4:30:14@shadowofezranight.↗

4:30:17Speaker 38Yeah, that was Fox.↗

4:30:20Speaker 37May I, may I give my, my two cents? One more thing, just real quick, 'cause I wanted to land my plane, but I'll still hang out and free up my slot if you wanna bring up another speaker. but Ian, I agreed with absolutely everything you said, except for one minor thing with your tiger example, and this is just for a bit of levity, 'cause I like to end with a joke.↗

4:30:43Speaker 37"Siegfried and Roy" was, I think, a bad example, 'cause Roy stopped being the ex- Example, a little while ago.↗

4:30:52Ian MalcolmYeah, no, it, it, well, isn't it curious because, to that, right? Are all lions and tigers bad? Apparently not, because they created Roy to tame them, except, well, maybe they didn't, right? And, and, and it, it is very curious, a-and, and maybe the, the, to add a little levity to it again, ironically, I'm, I'm not even gonna say exactly what is on my mind, instead you can read between the lines. What I'm going↗

4:31:19Ian MalcolmThere is a trope that's unreasonable and that you aren't disproportionately, let's say, inclined or prone to violence, don't come into conversations about the subject and then threaten violence. Which is normally what happens whenever I have one of these conversations. I get DMs or people on the, the, the spaces themselves, oh, you don't wanna meet me on the street. It's like, well, well, why? We're, we're just trying to discuss these issues about things like crime And violence and the inability to control one's emotions. And, and as a last little piece, one thing that's very curious, and, and David, I'd be, I'd be very curious for your thoughts on this, which is individuals that are lower IQ have a difficult time processing the value between what is in the moment and what is in the future. And, and, and a good way to think about that, you're walking down a sidewalk, you see somebody wearing a nice watch, you think, "Wow, I wish I had that watch," but you also are able to comprehend that if you try to rip it off the guy's arm, that there might be, oh, I don't know, a police officer, and that maybe you could find yourself in six months sitting in a jail cell as a result of that decision. Right? Individuals that are low IQ, imagine trying to go through the world not able to process that that might be a consequence of↗

4:32:40Ian MalcolmRight? And once you start to, to conceptualize that unfortunately there are a lot of people on the planet that are very, very dumb. This is a mean thing to say, I suppose, but it's also just factually correct. Right? And you start to think through that. Here's another way to think about it. Right, an individual of reasonable intellect, say ninety-five to a hundred IQ, it's very easy for them to look in their, in their refrigerator and say, "I need to purchase these things for the following week." Right? And they log them in their head. They can, they can loosely just recall them an hour or two later when they're in the supermarket. They can think back, "Oh, the orange juice was a little low. I only had two eggs. I should buy those." "Oh, I wanted to make a chocolate cake..." I'll grab the ingredients for that. An individual that is sub eighty five IQ, which there are a lot of, oh by the way, an individual that's down there, that's in the high seventies, the low eighties, not only do they need a list to try and remember and recall the things that they do and don't have two hours later, but also when they're, when they're there and they're thinking, oh, you know, I, I needed milk, and they're looking, and the milk's not available in the one that they normally get, and they're thinking to↗

4:33:57Ian MalcolmI don't know, maybe I'll just get orange juice instead. And, and if you think that I'm making this up, think of your Uber, what is it, your delivery mechanisms, that, how they have this feature where it'll say, "Are you okay if they substitute this thing or that thing?" Why do you think that's in there? Because the people that are going and doing those errands, oh, by the way, that were likely imported against your will and thus bringing down the, let's say, the quality of living, the, the income that you can earn having Etcetera, right? They've set that up because those people aren't able to comprehend. Well, if you don't have item A, it's probably more reasonable to get B or C as its replacement, right? So imagine there are a lot of people that go through life this way. They can't build a list in their head, they can't think about what they need to get for the week ahead. When they find that they don't have the thing that they want, they have trouble locating a replacement for it. Right? This is what it would be like to be low IQ, and I'm using that just 'cause it's a very tangible reality that a lot of people can probably relate to, right? But now I try to comprehend what would that mean if you try to get a job, if you get pulled over by a police officer, and you can start to understand how individuals that can't process those types of complexities-- and they're not complex for a person that's smart, but they're really complex for one that's not. And you can start to understand that it's no different than putting a really weak animal in a position where you should have a really strong one. Imagine a, a really weak, sickly horse trying to draw a carriage, right? It can't do it. And so what's it going to do? It's going to flail, it's going to fall, it's going to fail, and in doing so, perhaps it's going to get really upset because it's told at the exact same time by the television that it should be able to do that with no difference in quality from the other horse that's Might be more gifted to do it, right? And so some sense, it's almost less humane, it's almost inhumane that we try to tell everybody that they're all the same. Oh, if you just apply yourself, you'll be able to be just as smart as that other guy. It's no different than going out to the midgets and saying, "Well, you're really not working hard enough, or otherwise you'd be in the NBA." Right? You can understand how this is actually sick that we don't allow for our society to be honest about these things, and that by lying to everybody, we're just gaslighting them all. Right? There's nothing wrong with being tall, with being short, with being smart, with being dumb. You are what you are. Accept those strengths, accept the weaknesses, try to make the weaknesses better. Right? It doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with you. Right? It just means that we are what we are. We should make the best of what we can be, but we should be Things that we are. We shouldn't walk around as the midget and say we're a giant, and if we're the giant, we shouldn't walk around and tell the midget that he should be just as strong as we are, right? So just be honest with one another, and if we were, we'd, we'd be in such a better place. And David, again, I'm not sure if you have any thoughts on any of that, I know it's a little bit of a ramble, but then we'll go to Askinar.↗

4:36:59Speaker 35Well, if you deny reality, reality↗

4:37:07Speaker 35when we deny reality and say, "Well, people of this SAT score or below, we're gonna give them special treatment because of their pigmentation," and of course, it doesn't matter because when they go and they have to sit in class and absorb the stuff, you can't fake reality, right?↗

4:37:29Speaker 35But remember that, hold on one second. That the beginning of the conceptual mind, I think, was the excitation of conceptual mind was hunting, and of course, people that had to survive in Ice Age really relied upon this, because you have to throw the spear where it is not. So we discovered futurity, this idea of thinking ahead. And of course, that's what you're talking about. Is all the other animals are stuck in that cyclical existence that I mentioned before, but humans have this idea of resourcing their historical consciousness, which we call memory, and planning for the future. So that's what intelligent people are able to do. Hold their current actions within the context of not only tomorrow and the next day, but their whole life. And towards what end? What yardstick can we measure every human being? Their desire to be happy. This is Aristotle Not me. And so this p-- this low intelligence mentality where it's always the now. By the way, when you were talking about that Ian, I was just thinking, gosh, go to McDonald's I mean, I never go, I don't eat it, I don't eat that slop, but these are all people that can't think, well, wait a second now, long term, short term benefits,↗

4:38:43Speaker 35is this healthy? couldn't I have gone to the store and bought food and all this? No. Immediate gratification, short term gratification, no weighing, no consideration, no long term, well, how's this gonna affect my health in the long term future? Well, this is all stuff that happens at the conceptual level, and I really, I really- I really,↗

4:39:05Speaker 35I really think it's hard for us to understand what it's like that there's a group of people, there's a significant number of people that don't conceptualize at all. That you think that that little cartoon bubble of, above their head, is just thinking maybe lower quality thoughts, when in fact it could be completely empty, like there are no thoughts. There's nothing, you know? So it's a very kind of, difficult thing for, and I, I always say you can't empathize with someone with no empathy, and it's hard to kind of reason And through one's incapacity to reason through. But there is, I think it's around, I think Hitchcock says this, somewhere around eighty-five IQ people aren't conceptualizing at all. They're just reacting. And by the way, those people are the most dependent upon everybody else's thinking. Those people are the most-- think about someone that goes and works in a factory, right? All the mechanization of that factory so that they could make one product maybe thousands of times. That person working at that machine, who in their own life would probably a-- be able to only make one of those things in a week But by the miracle of other people having thought for them, they're able to make hundreds of them in a day, maybe thousands of them in a day. Well, the thinking has been done for them. These people are completely, absolutely barren of thoughts, and so they need to live in a civilization through which ideas are flowing copiously, and the idea that we're going to take to, to, at the, at the expense of that civilization, deny reality and pretend and give these people something that for which nature hasn't entitled them And it's, it's obviously terrible for not just us, not just for the civilization, but for them. What do you think of that?↗

4:40:47Ian MalcolmWell, and yeah, and, and, and one way, to maybe conceptualize that even, even further, for what it's worth, because you mentioned the eighty or eighty-five IQ, I can't remember if the number's eighty-one or eighty-three, but I heard Jordan Peterson talking about the cutoff for the US military, because they say that anybody that's below that can't provide any value It's just, I mean, think about this. This isn't suggesting that they can't be fighter pilots, right? Or that they can't be generals or admirals. It's saying, "I'm sorry, you wouldn't be valuable sweeping the floors or changing the light bulbs." Right? It's actually-- I don't think it's that though. I don't think--↗

4:41:33Speaker 35Hold on, one, one second. I don't think they're just saying that, because these people in the private sector could get jobs sweeping the floor, right? I think they're saying because, like, I played football when I was a kid, and I had to understand what I was doing in the context of what the team was doing. So the ability to sort of integrate what you're doing with a group of people, whether it be in the military or in a football team, I think that's really the challenge here, right? Don't you think that's more- Yeah, yeah. They're↗

4:41:57Ian Malcolmsaying even if we can give you a broom or we can give you X, Y, and Z and you can do A, B, and C, the, the detriments that you're also going to bring along, you're not- Let's say equal a positive outcome, right? You are a net negative to our operation if you're below that threshold, and it's, it's very uncomfortable, but there's a massive chunk of people that are, right? So, that one always stood out to me just because there are so-- I mean, you, you can't talk, I think it's actually one of the biggest employers in the world, right? Is, is, is the US military, and yet they would look at people that are in that IQ range and they would say, "I'm sorry, you have no↗

4:42:38Ian MalcolmAnd yet we are telling the entire world that there's no difference between anybody, that everyone is one and the same, we're all capable of the exact same things. And again, it's, it, it doesn't matter if you're talking about the military at large or, let's talk about the Navy SEALs, right? David Goggins and Bud's training and all these other kind of things, it takes- It's an exceptional individual to be able to endure that. Talk about an exceptional man, David Goggins, absolute, the-- I mean, he's like a superhero. The, the amount of physical endurance that that man was able to put himself through, right? And he has his skills, and I bet you if he was in this conversation right now, he could say that he has the world record for the most pull-ups in a day, that he's been a Green Beret, a Navy SEAL. The guy's a machine, but he'd also probably have no problem saying that there's Right? And that's what we need to be able to do, is to recognize our strengths, understand our weaknesses, be honest about them, be honest about the world around us. That doesn't mean if you're out as a freedom fighter that is talking about these issues and trying to liberate humanity from this matrix, or if, in the event of David Goggins, you're a literal fighter and a hero who is out there trying to defend his country literally. Right? And, and, and that's, that's the thing, i's isn't about belittling anybody. And in fact, that very guy, ironically, kind of positioned here as a microcosm, 'cause it's David Goggins, who for anybody that wants to go read his book, Can't Hurt Me, it's entitled, he will basically say, "Get off the couch, stop being lazy. You are so much better than you believe yourself capable to be. So make the most of it. Stop whining, stop crying." Right? He has that idea of, of callous your mind essentially. Endure difficult things, make yourself invincible. Right? And it's the exact same thing with your intellect, with your spirituality. Right? So try to be heroic, whatever that might, that-- whatever presentation it might make or take. Right? But just be honest about the things in the world around you, because otherwise we're just living in this delusional reality where everybody-- Look, the outcome of this machine, if they win, is everyone Becoming obese on your couch and being addicted to Netflix, pornography, caffeine, and calories. It is a very dystopian future state, right? So just like David Goggins, who at one point was like three hundred pounds slugging down a milkshake, and then he got up and he said, "I'm going to be that," and the "that" was essentially the Navy SEALs, and he accomplished it. Right? So get off of the couch, do something every day, make yourself better, exercise, get out in the sun, get out in the On the grass and, and with your mind, tune in and plug in to, to those that can inspire you to be better, which people like David Nietzsche. Every single time I talk to him, he does exactly that. So, David, just so much love to you, my friend. But David↗

4:45:33Speaker 39is like the David, I, I love this topic, first of all. Second of all, I did all my personal due diligence on the topic, and I didn't listen to anyone because a lot of it didn't make sense. I was called a racist once, and I, and I thought it doesn't make sense, and the connotation of it was a negative thing. And I'm a guy who lived in Lebanon, but I, but I was fortunate to study in a school in Switzerland. That school was a bit special. We had six 600 students, and it was actually in the Guinness Book of Records with the highest amount of nationalities. So we had fifty-seven nationalities, and I lived with these people for four years, right? So I, so I was exposed to all, all races and nationalities and cultures and all that, so, so that, that's where I came from. But the-- and no, and I used to pick on all everyone. The Indians, the North, the Koreans, you know, the, the Scandinavians And none of, there was not a word of anyone calling anyone racist,↗

4:46:48Speaker 39right? There, there was none of that. The only time I was called a racist was in the United States. And what I think is basically Large scale industrial travel, where groups of people moved from their nation, and their continents into other continents, is relatively new, maybe a hundred and fifty years, with planes and ship lanes. Before that, we existed in our own environments, and I believe looking at it, because yes, I am a racist, if, by, by their standard, yeah, because why? First of all, I am by Towards myself. So obviously, I'm gonna be biased towards my group. That's just the way it is. It's called survival, survival of the individual and the group. And we, we gather in hierarchies. The smart and the giving to the group moves up the hierarchy, and the idiot and the selfish and the lazy stays at the bottom. That's within in each of our individual groups. But also what I learned Later looking at it and why, why, why the difference? And I, and I, I'll give you a, an example. I think we are results of our environment and, we evolve. And when I say evolve, I'm not talking about Darwin. I'm, I'm saying the last twelve hundred years, right? As societies and communities,↗

4:48:19Speaker 39o-- each group evolved in their environment. Now, I'm gonna give an example, like if I go north and I look at, let's say the Germans Right? And then I go down to the s-south and I look at the Nigerians or below, or the Congolese, right? The Germans e-evolved in their environment. What does that mean? It means it is cold, the land isn't that generous to give you everything all the time, and what you must do during your day is to go Prepare your wood, prepare your food, dry your meat, hunt, and then by five PM most of the year, I guess, yeah, most of the year, you need to be ready to go into the cave to stay warm and survive. Now, if I compare that, and, and that, that brings so much dynamic into oneself how, how they should think and think Of the future, like you said, Ian, because it's all about working now and being efficient now so I can survive at night and in the future, and the dynamic amongst the society. If we, we cannot work together and synchronize hard, we will not survive as a group, and that is why we become efficient, let's say. If I go down to Nigeria, for instance, well, now the land gives me everything, it's on the trees I can pick it anytime I want, and I can almost forage, if you will, all year long, and even at night, if I'm not with the fire and in the cave, I can survive. I'll get away with it.↗

4:50:06Speaker 39that also, with hundreds and hundreds and thousands of years, also seeps into the physiology and the brain and how we think. And I'll give another example. If I live in a place where there is a, a, a snake that might jump Onto me or, or slither next to me, any second, I'll have explosive muscles, I'll jump like a, like a, sorry for the word, like a m-f To escape that snake because I've got a lot of predators that are all around, I'll run fast, and I have my prefrontal cortex where my, my, my evaluation of how I should behave is a little bit more geared towards violence just because of that. And, and I think we, we are a hundred percent a result of our environment, and no one is better than anyone, but the problem in the United States be- Because it's a new phenomena, where all,↗

4:51:07Speaker 39races and cultures are mixed together and, and they should play together. Well, it's like, it's like me saying I'm gonna bring a Ford pickup truck, right? And a Ford Mustang GT, and I wanna race them on, on asphalt, on tarmac. Well, well, the Ford isn't made for that, and it'll do better on, on sand and Mustang. So yes, the, the white culture, let's say, Northern European culture and the civilization is created of asphalt, and of course, the, the Ford Mustang is always gonna be faster, because it was-- because the whole place is created for the Mustang. Well, now then, then you'll, then you'll have the pickup truck slacking all the time, and you'll be like, "Come on, pick it up, do, do better," and they tell you, "Well, you're a racist." Well, no, the Ford is rugged. It's made for, for, for rough and tough and, and it is slow, and that's why it's gonna slack. But, but the problem is that this is where I'm gonna land. I believe that our, our academia has been infiltrated, by this supremacist group that wants to sell us the idea that, yeah, we're-- it's all optical, that it's the- The color of my skin, and that's the only difference, the rest of our, that is the same. No, there are different races, and we are different a hundred percent, and not only, and like you look at the NBA, it's like, yeah, their muscles are different. Well, well, what about their brain muscles? Maybe they're different too, because physiology is physiology, the difference should be everywhere. And if you say that, it's like, no, no, you're a racist. It's like, no, I'm a realist. And I'll tell, I↗

4:53:00Speaker 39Invented and they sold us, you know, trans, trans, transgender, right? When you question it, how do they, what do they do? They wanna shut up the conversation, so they, they throw words as transphobic at you to shut you down The same thing. If you're a race realist and you wanna discuss the differences between the races, they wanna shut you up by calling you a racist. It's the same thing. So these supremacists Jews have infiltrated academia. They wanna sell us ideas that aren't based in reality, and if we question them, they'll give us that, these slurs. So yeah, hundred percent races li-real and, and, and we are a creature of our environment. It was- Forge for, for millennia, and it just becomes part of the, the, our intellect, our brain intellect, our level of spirituality, our physiology, all of it. And I think this is great for the, for the, for the wealth of us as human species, and should be celebrated. And if it was up to me, to be honest with you guys, and I always tell my Lebanese friends who are living in the US, just come back home. Build your nation, build your communities, and, and, and there's nothing wrong with that. And I also would like to add one more thing, last one, last one, absolute last one. Yeah, right. In the future, I just one more thing, Francis. In the future, I don't worry about the Indian race, I don't worry about the Chinese race, I don't worry about the Mesopotamians or the Africans, but yes, the white race is under assault by the Jews. And it's eight percent of the population, and I would like it to continue and prosper and keep, and, and add to the wealth of all nations on the globe. Thank you.↗

4:54:56Ian MalcolmI couldn't agree with that more, Ed. And, and the, the piece there on the, the Mustang versus the, the pickup truck, right? It's, ver-very, very well stated there. And it's, it's also, David, isn't it curious because another way to interpret that, is essentially that the United States now has the, the super culture, the mono super culture, right? and it is taking that monolithic force and forcing it on everything, which then essentially aligns everybody to take all All of the differences that Rye just perfectly illustrated, and to put him essentially onto, to, to stick with his analogy, the same racetrack with the same parameters, right? And so that, that monolithic culture's not going to fit all these people in different ways. And instead of being able to say to them, you know, he also brought up athletics, right? You could take basketball, and that is of benefit for sure. There's, there's a, a specific race that has a tendency to have a superiority on the basketball court Work because of fast twitch muscles and all these other things, right? and there's nothing wrong with acknowledging that, but if we were to, to then say to the world that that's the only sport that matters Well, then think of how it minimizes the value that all of these other cultures have and the, the athletic abilities and gifts that they've not only harnessed, but they've then exemplified through the sports that they play in their communities, whether it's soccer or badminton or fencing, right? And so what, what's basically happening is they're, they're force-functioning the way they want everything, they being the Jewish supremacists, onto everyone, saying that everybody is all the same, which then is of course gonna be very Disenchanting for a whole lot of them that don't fit into that mold and whatever the value structures are that they've put in place. And as it goes through that process, it not only demoralizes everybody by forcing them to think they're all the same when they're not, but it also steamrolls every other rendition of culture, of art, of aesthetics, of sport, right? And it just removes and rids all of those things by trying to force function the one size fits all of Starbucks and Marriot's on every corner into every aspect↗

4:57:10@joann_marieI just wanted to ask really quick, there was a communist directive in nineteen forty-three that, it, it tells people to label people, to shut them up, and to shame them, and to, for them to not to speak about these things. So I posted it in the purple pill so that you guys check it out because it's wild and never be afraid of the labels, like it's, they are literally trying to silence you. And you noticed↗

4:57:32Speaker 35that there's no Orwellian quality to it, as usual, usually- Is the case where they try to inspire you with doublethink, which is supposed to reduce the confidence that you have in your own mind. And the example here would be like the trans issue, as if the word trans had some protean power to change the identity of anything or anyone whatsoever. No↗

4:57:55Speaker 35Aristotle's law of identity still holds, A is A, a thing cannot be itself and then something else, and there-- this is no exception. If you cut off a dog's tail, it's still a dog, it just doesn't have a tail. And, and that was really just-- you saw that kind of scary authoritarian moment. I consider these things to be glitches in the matrix. So when you see these big contradictions, you're like, "Okay, well, that's a glitch in the matrix." And of course- The ultimate hypocrisy, the ultimate glitch here, is the very people that are telling us that we're all just white people with different paint jobs. The very people that are telling us that these differences don't exist, that, that my wonderful friend Rayne was talking about, well, they're the ones that're saying we're special. They're the ones that are saying, "No, we're the master race," except when they're s-- really caught red-handed doing bad things. When Ben Shapiro said, "Ask if he was white," he goes, "Well, it depends," right? Well, he didn't, he didn't say the quiet part, right? He didn't go, "Well, when we can play the victim, we're definitely different, we're not white." Okay? But when we're caught being the perps, yeah, we're white. Okay, what other people get to do this? What other people get to shapeshift like this? So again, this is like our friend that came in here and tried to play the, the whole abyss of no meaning thing. Oh, there's really race doesn't really exist. Yeah. Try that out. Keep that. See if that works for you, Powell. The people that are emasculating us definitely don't think that, and you can definitely see the disingenuousity in the fact that they really believe that they are a separate group and to tell us all that we↗

4:59:27Speaker 35Thing, of course, is, is rank hypocrisy.↗

4:59:34Speaker 40Can↗

4:59:35@joann_marieI get the example with the, the blue dot people? That was hilarious.↗

4:59:40Speaker 40David, you called on me earlier and so.↗

4:59:43Ian MalcolmYeah, go for it, Emiro.↗

4:59:47Speaker 40so about Nico's question, I mean, I have a lot I wanna address about what you guys talked about, but it's a great space for sure.↗

4:59:55Speaker 40I'm glad you mentioned David Goggins because He has this really, interesting episode with Dr. Uebermann, where they're talking about this thing that he does, where he's always trying to do like the most uncomfortable, difficult, you know, gut-wrenching thing. And that same year, I think it was twenty twenty-five, Ueberman was telling them about this brain region in the frontal lobe called the AMCC, anterior midcingulate cortex, which is responsible for things that, you do that you really don't wanna do. So essentially everything that David Goggins does. And he was kind of mockingly, or like, sorry, humorously being like, "Yeah, this is kind of like the David Goggins part of the brain, essentially." and everything in the frontal lobe is, is necessary for intelligence, and lo and behold, being able to do difficult things↗

5:00:43Speaker 40is a part of it, i-it contributes to intelligence or success at the very least. What I'm trying to say is, it's very hard to, make any final claims about the brain because we don't know enough. and another part of, what Nico was talking about, why do people struggle to taxonomically categorize humans like we do with dog breeds? And, and I, I think dog breeds are a good,↗

5:01:08Speaker 40kind of tr-tool to use in general for a lot of things related to evolution, but we don't eat people, right? Maybe the elites do and Trump does or whatever, but I'm saying like, we don't treat humans like animals. Because we don't wanna dehumanize people, and I think judging strictly based on race is dehumanizing and also stupid. Like, as, at face value, you have to kind of deal with people as like the brains that they are. And the variations that we see with different dog breeds, I think we see in people of the same race. So there could be a white, you know, Chihuahua and a white German Shepherd, essentially. that's how much difference we have, I think, between All people, because of the volition that, David Nijhout was talking about,↗

5:01:54Speaker 40people decided all kinds of paths evolutionarily, even within the same group that they existed in. And a lot of you guys, you know, call yourselves race realists, and this is arrogant to say, but I feel like I'm the most realist of race realists. and I also don't find have this tendency to like identify with my race. I mean, I'm Lebanese, and I'm sure Raiz is gonna hate to hear this, but I have no loyalty to Lebanese people as Lebanese people or anyone in any sense. To me, it's like dogs first, humans second, and you have to really convince me to like you. I'm not gonna like you because you have the same genes. I mean, people fight with their family all the time, and they're the most identical to you. So I just don't think humans work this way. We're And, and things that we discover that we pass down, and even white people are a combination of all kinds of people that lived in Europe, so↗

5:02:47Speaker 40I'm just saying it's, it's a more complex problem, so I hesitate to make rash conclusions. There are conclusions to be made about race, and I wish we could be like the person that David was talking to, where we could just not talk about it. But the reality is, is that it's real, and something needs to be done about it, but I don't know if we can make a lot of final conclusions just yet, because there are Variables and things that we don't know about the brain and how people actually work, and so, you know, I mean, we already talked about the IQ test, so I don't wanna go into that. But you know how I feel about those, that I'm not sure they're valid yet. There's a lot of parts of the brain that we don't understand.↗

5:03:24Speaker 40but I'll say that now. Then just,↗

5:03:26Speaker 38why not make those nations great? Out of curiosity.↗

5:03:30@joann_marieWhat's that? We, we don't have a couple of times.↗

5:03:34Ian MalcolmAnd, and let's, let's go to, Sir Echinoir next, if, if he's, with us. I am↗

5:03:40Speaker 32with you always.↗

5:03:41Ian MalcolmAlright. How's it going? Escudor, I am so-- I, it, it's been a little while here, and, and, and so much going on in the world. I am so curious if anybody is not following the legend himself, the taker of digital scalps on X. You gotta give Escudor the spiciest of spices on, the platform of followers. The↗

5:04:05Speaker 32taker of digital scalps, that's fucking↗

5:04:09Ian Malcolmhilarious. Once they go, once they get on your radar, I feel like it's just a matter of time till they're like, "Uh, you probably have a trophy room somewhere in your house with like little digital printouts of some of these people you've just bodied."↗

5:04:22Speaker 32You don't, no, actually I don't. I'm not a trophy kind of guy, I'm not a weirdo. But if I did have one, it'd be like, I'd have to get a, you know, like five houses worth. That's what I think would have to happen. But fuck all I heard a lot of shit, people talking, you know, a lot of things I agree with, a lot I don't, blah, blah, blah. But the,↗

5:04:43Speaker 32you know, the topic is the algo, right? So I'm gonna tell you my experience. This what I think doesn't mean this is set in stone. This is just one perspective, and if we're honest with each other, usually one perspective ain't the fucking truth. But I've been around a long time, and I've been suspended more than fucking probably everybody in this fucking room. It's my thirty-second account I've had, fuckin', just on X, it's my thirty-second account, right? My next one's gonna be the thirty-third, I'm gonna be the confirmed Mason Eskenor on my next account.↗

5:05:16Speaker 32what's peculiar is that I've also been, cancelled, suspended under Musk, so I have the whole fuckin' spectrum of what's been going on. I've been suspended for saying certain things, I've been suspended for saying the exact fuckin' opposite. So what does all this fucking tell you? Like, what is, what the fuck's going on, right? Well, let's talk about censorship.↗

5:05:42Speaker 32You know, censorship is obviously a tool used by the powers that be to control narratives. We all, we're all aware of that. Most people are, are familiar with the first application of censorship, which is to- Cancel or silence voices of dissent. That's the obvious fucking application of it, right? But there's another application of it that people don't think of as much, but once later, which I'll mention a case study, once I mention that case study, you'll be like, "Holy fuck, yes." But we'll get to that in a little bit, right? So censorship has another application, and that's to↗

5:06:23Speaker 32give credence to falsities. And the case study for that, which everybody in this fucking room knows, is QAnon and Q. That shit was censored out the fucking yin yang. They were canceled, suspended, I was suspended as part of that fucking garbage. Like, it, it was, you know, the, the, the, the plutonium to the elites' ideology. And today we realize that it was all fucking bullshit and part of the elites' ideology, and they used all of us as little evangelists to, to, to evangelize their fucking bullshit mystery school religions, and to use the trauma of all these stories and all these control mechanisms they have to- Instill subliminal messages into the collective, into fucking control us, mind control,↗

5:07:15Speaker 32trauma, trauma, despair, hope, repeat. That's what they're doing with that, right? And by doing that, they also gave us synthetic messiahs and gurus that we trust. This was all a mechanism by the very same powers that we think we're fighting. To ensnare us further, thinking that we're doing God's fucking work on top of it, which is sick. So what does it have to do with the algo? Well, I can tell you this from experience.↗

5:07:45Speaker 32Not that long ago, you couldn't say "Dick fuck all" about Jews. You said the g- you'd just write the word "fucking Jews," you'd get suspended. Then all of a sudden You could say whatever the fuck you want, or at least some accounts were allowed to say whatever the fuck they wanted, right? You could say whatever, you know, the demons, the devil.↗

5:08:08Speaker 32Jews are the end all, be all of fucking demons. You're allowed to say that now, all of a sudden. Meanwhile, the platform is controlled by Jews. So the question is, why are, you know, the algorithm allow- it's like a funnel. Why are you allowed to say what you're about to say? Why are they making you say it? What are they harvesting as far as data goes when you say it? And what is the ultimate purpose? Why are they allowing you to do this? You gotta think about that shit, right? So when you look into Jewish,↗

5:08:39Speaker 32so here, here's, here's another angle to this whole fucking equation.↗

5:08:45Speaker 32the Jewish messianic prophecy requires the world to turn on it. And I'll repeat that again. The Jewish messianic prophecy requires the fucking world to turn on it. What does that mean? It means they want the fucking world, which is us. The fucking hate them. Not that it's hard, guys. Not that it's hard to fucking hate them. They're genocidal fucking demons. It's easy to do that. But they require that to happen on a world scale for the messiah to come to fruition. So obviously they're gonna plant their fucking little plants, and they're gonna control the uprising that is the antithesis to the JQ movement, and they're gonna control the two pillars, and the two pillars are gonna bring forth the messianic prophecy. So this is- This is all that's going on with all of this. The algo is allowing you to say what you say in an effort to hone it, to garner reactions from the group of people that are needed to either rise against the control system or to endorse it. They're getting the consent and they're getting the antithesis to build it. They're doing it all at the same fucking time. We're all watching the same news, the same things, yet when we see it from our own perspectives We're all seeing it in our own light, and it's making us all revolt in the same direction that the fucking B system needs to be built. So I don't know if that all made sense to you guys, but that's what the fuck is going on with the whole algorithm. It's not for nothing that you're allowed to say what the fuck you, you have to say. Like, when I make, look, I, I can, again, I can only speak for myself.↗

5:10:23Speaker 32Excuse me. When I make a fucking viral post, I don't think, "Hey, I broke the I'm cool, I fucking did that shit. No, that's not what I think. I think the opposite. I think, hey, why does the Matrix want what the fuck I just said out there? Who is benefiting from what I just said? Who is benefiting from the revolt created and seeded from the words of my genuine concerns? This is the higher level narrative that is being controlled, and that's the fucking message that I try to You know, propagate to people. I understand that what you're saying is true. I understand who our enemy is. I understand a lot of things, but the truth isn't necessarily revelation. It's not re-necessarily↗

5:11:15Speaker 32Liberation either the truth assorted in a certain order by the wrong people for the wrong intentions can be an ensnarement, because then when you find the truth through your own fucking research, it becomes your own. The narrative that they buried becomes your own, you own it, and then you fight for it moving forward, and they're using your fight and the conflict on the other side to build the prison for the whole fucking lot I know it's very convoluted what the fuck I'm saying, but if you have half a fucking brain, I'm hoping you understand, you understand it. But that's what's really going on on a high level with all of these, all of these X-paces, all of these groups, whether it's MAGA, America First, JQ,↗

5:12:02Speaker 32the Jews are even a part of it as well. They're the other pillar, right? Because they think they're fighting for their own, you know, their own birthrights, which are complete fucking- Insidious lies, right? But that's another conversation in and of itself. So just, what to say, guys? Look, just because you're, just because you feel you're allowed to say things all of a sudden, doesn't mean that they're true, and doesn't mean that you're gaining momentum in your movement either. It just means that the valves are being opened by the powers that be, and they're allowing you to fucking do it. And you gotta ask yourself, why are they allowing you to do it? Why are they allowing you? To say the things that are detrimental to their plans. It's because they are using those emotions, reactions, solutions to further their plans, and you're just unaware of it. So I hope that made sense, and I'll shut the fuck up now. Thank you.↗

5:13:00Ian MalcolmNo, well, well stated.↗

5:13:04Ian MalcolmYeah, well, well, well stated there, Esquinas, always. And, and it is, for those that find this aspect of, of interest, nobody better to go into it, when it comes to this kind of, the good and evil elements, right? Esquinas, I feel like you, you really rip apart, the, I don't even wanna call it esoteric, it's, it's, it's, but it's more of the, the black magic behind some of this, which the, the very few people talk about↗

5:13:37Speaker 32Yeah, sorry, give me a sec. Let me reconnect my mic. Sorry, I won't.↗

5:13:39Ian MalcolmYeah, of course.↗

5:13:45Ian MalcolmAnd the dynamic for, for those that are, are less familiar, this is, it, it goes back to some of the Cabalistic elements, or the, the Masons, right? This whole idea of the, the black and the white, and I don't mean race when I say that, but rather the light and the dark and how these things are, are played into this, I don't wanna go with the 5D chess, because, man, isn't that tired and... It's 5D, it's, it's↗

5:14:07Speaker 325D Mahjongg with, it's 5D Mahjongg with China, by the way. That's what it is. So, you know, about the pharmacon and the whole spell aspect, right? You know, it's very real, and th-this is my, you know, this is one of my primary concerns when it comes to propaganda, general, as a general, you know, propaganda. Those who are awake believe that propaganda is out there for the NPCs, the sleepyheads, the fucking zombies. But listen to me, the sleepyheads, the zombies are gonna give their consent for whatever the fuck authority figure asks for it. They aren't the target audience of any propaganda. The target audience at all times, no matter what you think, is always the group that is a threat to the system, which is you↗

5:15:02Speaker 32No matter, you know, you're watching bullshit on the news and you're laughing at the fucking liberals, but the actual target of what's being displayed is you. Your attention, your anger, your complicity, your revolt, your behavioral data, that's what they're, they need to get. We're all aware of the system of control, right? There's,↗

5:15:26Speaker 32well, to simplify it obviously, it's, Problem reaction solution.↗

5:15:34Speaker 32the problem, as we all know, is created for the sole purpose to instill the fucking solution. We're all fucking aware of that, you know, I'm not teaching anybody anything. What's the free radical in this equation? It's the reaction. That's the last, that's the part of the equation of the algorithm that they need To solidify, to control, to manage, to predict. So what are they doing? They're offering us all these psyops to make all of us truthers react, and they're trying to gauge, okay, how do I make these people that are a threat to the system, that can't uprise, how do I neuter them? How do I keep them at bay? What do I tell them to make them angry? What do I tell them to sedate them? What do I tell them to make them attack the very pillars of society that I need updating with the new techno state? And that's what they're doing with the Epstein files, that's what they're doing with the fucking missing scientists. They're throwing all kinds of fucking dirt at all these pillars of society that we know are rotten to the fucking core. I don't need the news to tell me Tell me that academia's fucked, the banking's fucked, that everything in every country is completely fucked. They're telling you that because they need a system update, and that has to do with technocracy and transhumanism. They wanna show us a temple, they corrupt the temple, they monetize the temple, and then they give you the gas In your hand, and they're like, "Hey, pour that shit on the temple, "and they light the flame, and you think you won, you took down the fucking temple. So what do we do now? We gotta build a new, our temples, guys. And that's what they're gonna make us↗

5:17:27Speaker 32mason, and by us, I mean the threat category to the system, which is tends to be the patriotic, freedom-loving, two A-loving Family oriented types, which is the salt of the earth, which is the devil's greatest fucking win, right? He's gonna take the best of us and make us his pawns in his army to fight the system that is already corrupt, to replace it with something that is much worse. So that's the long game. So I hope that made fucking sense.↗

5:18:00@nance726No, that's good. I've been, oh, sorry.↗

5:18:02Ian MalcolmGo four forty.↗

5:18:04@nance726I just wanna say, man, I, I listened to you break that down in a space probably like a week or two ago, and, and, and it really stuck with me, and I've been kind of applying that, that logic to different things that I see. And, and, bro, it may-- it makes a lot of sense. So what you're saying, it definitely does make sense, and, and you're not, you're-- what you're saying doesn't fall on deaf ears, 'cause I've been kinda viewing it through that lens, and,↗

5:18:30@nance726and I'm not And, and I started trying to kind of applying that just to kind of like, just to see how it, you know, how it jived with, you know, with, you know, with what I was seeing. And, and I really think you're spot on, and it's really helped me, kind of change my perspective on some things. So I, I do appreciate you coming out here and, and dropping your knowledge and doing all the work you do, man.↗

5:18:57Ian MalcolmNo, he's an absolute, absolute legend. and knowing that, that Mr. Truth teller has, opened up his daily space, we'll go through, the rest of the hands up here. and then what we'll do is wind this down. we'll get a prayer from, from David Nietzsche to send us on our way, and, I'll then be joining over in that, for anybody that wants to participate in that conversation as well. But I do know there's a couple of hands, so I With Debbie.↗

5:19:33Ian MalcolmDebbie, are you with us?↗

5:19:40Ian MalcolmLet's go to Alpha, and then we'll try to go back to Debbie.↗

5:19:48Speaker 31Hey guys, thank you. That was worth the wait. good stuff, mate.↗

5:19:53Speaker 31I basically waited all this time, I just wanted to mention that was a good strategic view that Eskenazi was saying, but back more at that tactical level of the science of the matter. Would you believe Charles Darwin, the book we all know and love, on the Origin of Species? Do we all remember its full title? It was, On the Origin of Species, or The Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life. So even Charles Darwin knew, if you wanna talk about racism, then talk about it properly. Talk about the preservation of favored races in the struggle for life. Now, if my race has an IQ of one hundred and ten and your race has ninety,↗

5:20:36Speaker 31he goes on to say, you don't have conscience, that is to avoid provoking fear or contempt in others, often experienced as shame or guilt And sus- and conscience is a society-forming instinct, and those with a high sense of conscience form societies better than those that don't. So if you wanna have a conscience battle or a conscience off, on one hand we have white Anglo-Saxon Protestant Europeans versus the world, and I'll leave you all to read between the lines on that. Great space, mate. Five, six, hungee. Good stuff. I'll yield the floor. excellent work, thanks.↗

5:21:14Ian MalcolmYeah, of course. And, and speaking of this, and speaking of the matrix, somebody sent me and, all, Keep their name, they're, they're welcome to share this in the purple pill if they would like, but, if they, if they'd prefer to keep that more private, they're welcome to do so. But they sent screenshots that listed the number of live listeners, which, presently is five sixteen, I think it was six hundred, it's maybe seven hundred, something like five ten minutes ago. But here's the curious part. They also sent a screenshot 'cause at the bottom of the spaces, depending on the device that you're on, if you All the way down, which I'm doing right now, you'll get down to a certain point where it will then say the other listeners, so you can scroll through all those people that are listening in publicly, and then you get to the bottom where it has those that are listening privately.↗

5:22:07Ian Malcolmand he sent us a screenshot with plus seven thousand six hundred and three other listeners. And I've seen bots attack these spaces many times in the past, and that usually presents itself very vividly. but this is the first time I've seen where it was exclusively in the other listeners' aspect of the space. And so it makes me wonder if in fact, in addition to all the other algorithmic suppression that we're very well aware of, if they're not also doing something to manipulate what looks like the attendees of given spaces and things of that nature, which, rather, rather curious and peculiar. like I said, they're welcome to put that in the purple pill, but, I'll, I'll keep my eye on that, and I really appreciate that, being sent over. Let's check in really quickly, Debbie, are you with us again or no?↗

5:23:01Ian MalcolmDebbie going once, Debbie going twice, we will go to Yuri Denny.↗

5:23:05Speaker 41Hello, can you hear me? We↗

5:23:09Ian Malcolmsure can, Yuri.↗

5:23:11Speaker 41Hi, there are a number of things that popped up in this wonderful think tank you have here, and thank you for the opportunity for, sharing here. so Man, Marshall McLuhan, I stumbled onto his book in a, second hand bookshop one time when I was just browsing with coffee in my hand, and, the book was called The Medium is the Message, and, the book goes through different mediums, that, has↗

5:23:42Speaker 41Kind of, pave the way and also there's natural mediums like rivers and, and, and roads from human pathways and stuff, but there's one thing that was mentioned, within the book, and it was the global village, and I'm sure you probably heard the term, floating around, but, I, I believe this platform X is an extension of the,↗

5:24:06Speaker 41the the ideology or the even the implementation of, a global village. And, the, the element here is that it, it, it, it makes all things, a singularity. and, and, and I can go into that in a number of ways, but, it brings people together, one, have them on a platform, have everyone on the same stage. expressing themselves, they have the room to share and so on. But, it, it, the, the singularity is, one of the, major aspects of the, global vil-village, where everyone is communicating together, no matter the distance and, and, and travel. And, the, the aspect of the global village kind of, Branched off for me into,↗

5:24:59Speaker 41Noah's Ark for some reason. now where the, the element of, having everything in its place and also monitored and surveyed, studying its behaviors, and also the, the, the, the wonderful tool and also art of domestication, At play, and I mean also using the dog example that you guys were talking about, a little while ago,↗

5:25:33Speaker 41domestication is one of the most important, aspects of evolution, and, the, the big thing here is that, it's not that we were, we weren't spared, when it came to domestication. It's just that domesticating something of higher intelligence like the human, the, the, the human being, to break up the words, human being, to domesticate something like that takes a lot of work and it takes a lot of resources. So,↗

5:26:06Speaker 41In some way of the, the Noah's Ark effect, and I'm just using that very lightly as, as an example for visuals, the, the Noah's Ark effect, was definitely at play in helping, helping organize everything, helping evolve it, helping moving things forward, but also at the same time monitor things and finding new ways to monitor things on a even atomic level, watching atoms move, watching molecules move, and watching- How they also kind of come together, but even domesticating things on an atomic level. So, when it comes to dealing with something like a human being, a human being,↗

5:26:47Speaker 41a, a, a very high intelligence, Species, it, it, it requires a lot of nitty gritty, high powered, calculations, high powered work and, and resources in order to domesticate a human being. and for example, X is, is, I, I don't know what X is, I just stumbled onto here and I just started just kinda- Bugging around and, and just kind of figuring things out. But,↗

5:27:21Speaker 41one thing that I did notice is that, we are,↗

5:27:26Speaker 41o- in some way a part of-↗

5:27:31Speaker 41Okay, not, not a part, but we are wearing something. we are wearing something. It has an effect on us and, It, it's very real. you know, there's reasons why we're here, and it might be due to, what we're already wearing, and fully involved in, and in some ways, you know, affecting our lives every day. So, you know, going back to the Noah's Ark visuals, going back to the global village visuals, the global village aspect, and I wanna go into a little bit detail about that and just kinda, conclude there, is that the, the global village effect. was something that really piqued my interest thanks to re-reading,↗

5:28:15Speaker 41The Medium is the Message by Marshall McLuhan. And, the-- one of the most amazing things to monitor activity of very diverse things, market, market statistics. so think about like an open market, you put all the resources there, people gather, trade, and there's, there's all kinds of activity taking place, but For, for, in order to,↗

5:28:43Speaker 41you know, monitor that, there has to be an overseer, like a king or a chief or whatever it is, or some higher up. But, in, in essence of this, this higher up has the ability to see, or, or, or see, see how everything circulates, communicates, within that market, and the market was a perfect example of monitoring diverse activities. Also, Bringing in trade from all over,↗

5:29:13Speaker 41from different parts of the world even, right? So, in, in some way, the, the global village is, is, I, I, I find it, a very good example, on, on, on how in some way X exists, and, and I think X exists, and even social media exists from↗

5:29:35Speaker 41philosophies, sciences from the principle of the global village. So I'll just leave it at that and, thank you for, the platform.↗

5:29:45Ian MalcolmOf course, Yuri, and, an interesting way to interpret that is that, if you think about a group of people that are trying to create a monolithic culture and to essentially rule their over, one of the things that you would have to do is to bring people onto a uniform platform so that they're all thinking somewhat in unison, they all feel that they are part of a-- you could use lots of different terminology for it, but it's either an ideological frame or perhaps a plantation, right? That they are just Another cog in the machine, and so it's a, a very interesting observation, so thank you for that. Let's go to, Francis.↗

5:30:27Speaker 38Hey, I just wanted to let everybody know, in the United States, it does matter what you say to your congressman, senator, you know, whoever represents you. we've got this big bill coming up In the Senate, it would basically join Israel's military with the United States military. And if you think that those things should be separate, I would encourage you to like just call, you know, do whatever you gotta do to get in contact with your senator and just be like, "Hey, listen, we don't accept..." The United States military becoming a part of any other country's military, it's ours, we're the United States. Yeah, we, we don't need it like that. so yeah, that's just something that I wanna encourage everybody to do now and really next week.↗

5:31:37Ian MalcolmNo, much, much appreciated. And, let's, for, for brevity's sake, let's go to, Andy.↗

5:31:44Speaker 42Yeah, I was actually gonna mention that. And speaking of psyops, think about all of the psyops that have been swirling around, distracting us from that. I mean, I'm not gonna call it a psyop, I think they intentionally released this bill when everyone, I mean, obviously we should be folk-talking about, Henry Noack and, In England, we should be talking about Canelo and Anthony, but they purposely are shoving this bill down when we're focused on the race war, so then nobody's talking about this, and now everyone's freaking out about someone aborting their baby with Down syndrome, and that got like twenty million views from Colin Rugg and then lives of TikTok, and everyone's saying, "Oh my God, they aborted their baby." And yes, abortion is horrible, but one abortion shouldn't be the freaking priority now when we're gonna lose our sovereignty to Israel. Like, yes, I don't think people↗

5:32:33Speaker 42But like, is that really the priority when we're gonna lose our sovereignty? I've heard more people talk about one random YouTuber getting a fucking abortion than I've heard them talk about us losing our sovereignty. It is pat-- to Israel, it's patently absurd. W-uh, it's some YouTuber getting an abortion shouldn't be the main news story of the day. That was literally the biggest news story of the day. A YouTuber aborting their baby with Down's syn-syndrome. Yes, it's sad, it's awful, it's horrific, but that Should not be the main news story. That, and then some drama surrounding Carmelo Anthony. And yes, those are b-issues. Like the abortion thing shouldn't even be a fucking story. That was clearly some fu- they've clearly paid that YouTuber to make it a fucking story. Like, what YouTuber fucking posts about their abortion on YouTube? Come on, that is fucking a paid psyop. If anyone can't realize that by now, it's a fr- it's a freaking joke. It's, it's, I'm sorry, but it's, it's so staged. The timing of all that, and then you have two race wars going on. I mean, obviously they didn't pay a migrant to kill Henry Novak, they waited till that happened, they waited for this Kamala Anthony thing, and then we're gonna have the World Cup to distract, and then they're gonna be able to shove this bill right down our throat, and we're gonna lose our sovereignty, which is why I keep trying, like, slipping that in the comments of different things to try to wake people up Oh my god, this guy has a Nazi tattoo. He's so horrible, I don't give a fuck about his tattoo. I'd vote for him any frickin' day over Susan Collins if I lived in Maine. What the f- crap has she done for us? And Republicans are literally saying, "Oh my God, this guy with the Nazi tattoo is so horrible," and then they're complaining about Susan Collins being a traitor too, while telling us not to vote for the Democrat because Susan Collins voted against the SAVE Act, which eighty percent for election integrity, which eighty percent of Americans support. Okay, Susan Collins is a Rhino traitor, but don't vote for the Nazi. So Republicans have not given said one reason why to vote for this old hag, but then they're saying, "Don't vote for the Nazi." So that whole- Main Senate race is another fricking psyop. Like, oh, all of this stuff about this guy's sex life comes out right before this as well, so that's four distractions now. So again, I don't like, what, are we gonna hear about this guy's Nazi tattoo or wha- whatever the heck it is for five more months until November? I'm sick, I've been hearing about this guy's tattoo for at le- like five months, and I'm gonna hear about another five months. Like, it's ridiculous. I could care less what this guy- Tattoo has, is, like, it doesn't affect my life. What affects my life is whether we're gonna be a sovereign nation from Israel. And what is really starting to also weird me out is Dan Vilsarin. He was in spaces with Truth and Ian over a month ago, and he was told us and said, "Yeah, I'm gonna be down in Florida and start running events next week," and a month later, he has still not ran one campaign event. So the fact that he would just go in our space and flat out lie to us after saying He was gonna run campaign events, weirds me out. He's jumped in this race to run for House nine weeks ago, so he's been running for nine weeks, the election's in ten weeks, and he hasn't ran one event. So like, he like ran in to be this hero against Randy Fine, and he hasn't even ran a serious campaign. That's kind of concerning to me. Like, he hasn't ran, done one in-person event. How do you win an election if you don't do an event? Like, all, like, I hate to say Say it, it's like all he, like all he did was call Nick Fuentes a fad, and then everyone turned on each other, and like, I don't know, it just something doesn't feel right there. Like, it's just something just feels a bit off about that to me. Like, if he was run-- like, I wouldn't feel as off about that if he was running campaign events and running a serious campaign, but I don't know, it's just, it doesn't feel right to me that he says he's running for Congress and he hasn't even ran in a↗

5:36:41Speaker 42Like, it-- so something isn't right about that. Like, that doesn't sit well with me, and it just feels like the JQ bit kind of completely fractured then after that moment, and everyone's been at each other's throats since then. Like, that basically killed it.↗

5:36:57@nance726Like, a-as a former Mainmer, I can, I can definitely say, "Fuck Susan Collins." I, I, I lived in Maine most of my life, a-and, and fuck that bitch.↗

5:37:04Speaker 42Yeah. Like, yeah, exactly. She's been in there for thirty years, she's taken money from APAC, and what has she done? She can't, if she can't vote for election integrity, what the heck is she gonna do for-- Like, yeah, like I'd rather vote for some radical Democrat and burn the house down, like, I don't live in Maine, but↗

5:37:25Speaker 35But↗

5:37:26Speaker 42I mean,↗

5:37:26Speaker 35thank you my friend. yeah, I'll be interesting to see how that works out. Emiro, what have you to say my friend?↗

5:37:36Speaker 40Well, I came back up because, I got kicked out, and I realized as I, as I came back into the space, that it got flooded with bots, and I've seen that happen in Albert's space where, and the other listeners, they can They just get flooded with like thousands of, of obviously bots and, and they try to mess with the space. So they must not like what you're saying at all.↗

5:37:57Speaker 40but just wanted to tell you that, hey, I'm a victim of this fucking thing. Very annoying. but also wanted to say, again, great space, and I heard a lot of people mention the prefrontal cortex and everything.↗

5:38:09Speaker 43Yeah, I noticed that. I was thinking of you. I heard Mays use it, and then one other person afterwards. Yeah, I noticed that.↗

5:38:18Speaker 40I certainly noticed it too. But yeah, good to be here.↗

5:38:23Speaker 35Thank you, my friend.↗

5:38:26Speaker 35Ian, do you wanna, do you wanna close it out and bring it over to Truth Teller space?↗

5:38:33Ian MalcolmYeah, let's, let's do exactly that. And, David, maybe the best way to do it, now that we got everybody's kind of parting remarks here, why don't we go to you for, for some kind of words of optimism and encouragement, and then we'll, we'll move over to- Well, I don't have↗

5:38:46Speaker 35those. no, absolutely, my friend. And, you know, I, I'd like- I just, and I said, did this earlier because I wanted people to say, to understand that in the context of knowing what headwinds we face, including the algorithm and including the shadow banning, I mean, it's all clearly because we're having our say and we're having our effect, and it's, there's nothing that's going to stop it. I don't think that-- I think it's good to talk about it, and I just don't think you should be get discouraged. that's the really most important thing, is that we are winning in And this is a sign of it, you know, someone mentioned Charles Darwin, and he said, he said, "The truth in the long stretch of time wins out," and this truth has been struggling for a long stretch of time, and we can s- clearly see that it's winning out, and so just make sure that everybody knows you're really, really, really part of a great awakening. I just love it. I also feel this great sense of, fraternity and, and sorority, we're there brothers and sisters, and it, it feels so- Good because you're all so honorable, you know, you're all just thinking about what is right, you're all just thinking about what is good, and you're, you're loving your culture and you're loving your fellow man, you know. Raed was in the space earlier, and, you know, we became friends, you know, across continents, you know, almost nothing in common, but we're both sort of peaceniks and, you know, in terms of really wanting, you know, equanimity and peace, and of course, if it's true that blessed are the Follow that cursed are the warmongers, and in this case, we're talking about the Jewish supremacists, and of course, the answer is yes. And so I'm just really excited to be part of the, the great awakening, Ian. You're a fantastic host. Obviously, we've lost our other host, to truth teller space, Joanne, but everybody in the room, thank you so much for coming, and I really enjoyed listening to you all.↗

5:40:45Ian MalcolmAnd with that, we will wind down the second installment of, what I guess Shadow of Esdra is going to refer to as the Matrix trilogy of these phases. we've got plenty more, on both the algorithm. We will certainly be doing another one of those in the not so distant future. We've also got a bunch lined up for next week, some of which I'm very, very excited for. I look forward to speaking with all of you. I look forward to being humbled. To be surrounded by the likes of Joanne, the co-host with the most as she is over in Truth Teller's room, so we're gonna suggest everybody move over there, but also the incomparable David Nietzsche, who is a warrior for truth, for spirituality, and for love. And, and for that, David, I'm, I'm just always so humbled. It was wonderful to have Shadow of Ezra in here, and, and I think he needs to join us more often, frankly, for what it's worth. and I know it's a, a less familiar format for him, but really does a wonderful job in these spaces, and, this one certainly went on a little bit longer. We're, we're gonna try and figure out how to condense some of the future conversations, but I really sincerely do, I always respect everybody↗

5:42:01Ian MalcolmThey do throw their hands up, I always wanna make sure that we get a chance to hear from everybody. I do see that, Francis put his up, so we will go to him to honor that, and then, I'll wrap everything up.↗

5:42:19Ian MalcolmOr maybe that was a, Francis, you with us?↗

5:42:24Ian MalcolmAlright, well then, I, I, I couldn't say that I was gonna respect everybody's hands, while ignoring his. So, but in, let's say, to, to summarize, right? Essentially, we are in the Matrix. They are suppressing all of our activities on this application in an attempt to minimize that awakening that, that, David was, so lovingly referring to, right? But the beautiful aspect of it is the more they suppress, the more we recognize that we're right, and the more they allow us to speak, well, then the more come to our corner, right? And so in a weird way, we are. We are Neo, we are Morpheus, we are Trinity out in the- Nebuchadnezzar, right? It's uncomfortable, but hey, at least we are living in that which is real, right? And so we can go back into the matrix, which is us joining into this forum. Obviously, this is an extension of that system, right? But we come in and we, we learn, we educate, we inform ourselves, and every day we try to make a, a little bit bigger of an impact on the zeitgeist, which is irrefutably shifting, right? And like Esko was saying, we should ask why that might be. What benefit is coming out of it? and I don't know the answers to those questions, right? But what I do know is that they clearly are suppressing our abilities to have some of these conversations, although we are allowed to have them, so we should thank Elon Musk. We should thank Nikita Bier, who again, he, he just responded to a, a couple posts of mine the other day, which is curious. And the reason that I say that is because it means that we are getting a large enough voice that the machine has to recognize us, right? And we For another, we've essentially hit, and I really believe this, this was always my goal, for what it's worth, or at least one of them, was to hit a escape velocity, and I sincerely think that we have essentially done that. We've created enough bridges, enough allies, and we've gotten enough of a voice and a mindshare on this application, they really can't stop us unless we do something egregiously wrong. And what a weird, wild, and yet powerful reality that is. Because we've made an immense difference in the last year or two or three, we will make an even bigger difference in the year that's to come. Right? And we see all these things happening at the macro level. It's not just on the digital front, it's our politicians trying to literally tether together the US military with Israel, which will be of monumental significance and consequence if they are able to pull that off, right? So we need to keep having these dialogues. We certainly will. I look forward to speaking with all of you next week in them. In the interim, I'm gonna be joining Mr. Truth Tellers face. I certainly this weekend will be doing a impromptu, kind of a, a, a, a, Gospel, if you will, a homily attempt, as best I can. but otherwise, we will see you on Monday in the next, scheduled space. I look forward to that. And in the interim, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you are in the world, God bless for everything that you are. God speed. We are winning. We will win. We will defeat the matrix, and I look forward to doing that with all of you. So God speed, everybody.↗