Dan Bilzerian v Nick Fuentes With @truthtellerftm & @theleaderofUSA

1:30:00@ehsanjoarderPositively associates with Jews and says, "Oh, no, Nick, it's this, and look, you had Aaron Baker, and what is Dan doing? And he's talking about killing Jews. Oh my God, killing Jews. Not like the Jews that are masturbating, watching Gaza be bombed, right? Not those Jews, right? Certainly. I mean, that, that would be okay, right, if they're out there as, you know, military folks, you know, if they're on the battlefield, that would be okay, right? No, no, no. Oh my God. Well↗

1:30:30@ehsanjoarderChristian, also Jew-Christian, Judeo-Christianity, right there, coming to Nick's support, in and of itself, is a microcosm of the same issue that I just addressed, right? But I gave you other points of reference, not the one that just happened in front of everybody that no one can fucking deny. So you have to be able to pick up on the fucking pattern and be able to make the fucking connection quickly and make an assessment quickly so you can move on, because culture personality has always destroyed any nascent revolutionary movement, and that's why it is absolutely fucking crucial for them to have a homosexual at the helm, because a homosexual is inherently anti-life. Right? Oh, whoops, look at that, another data point. Oh, it's gay to have a wife and kids, it's gay! Oh, okay, and that's why I love Leonardo, and of course, because Leonardo's so good at slicing through the truth, of course, Leonardo gained the ire of this Jew that just came to this space, and that was the first person she attacked, but Leonardo made a very salient point when she said, "You know, apparently, now the only thing that's not gay is getting fucked in the ass." And that's true. Why is it, right? So again, these kinds of, the patterns you have to be able to pick up. You can get into the nuances, you can get into the personality flaws and whatever. And by the way, the other thing they do, they project what was happening because I talked to-- I had a forty-minute conversation with Bill Sarian like less than thirty-six hours ago, had a forty-minute conversation with Jake yesterday. What happened was Jake was trying to facilitate, communication, and Nick was the one who launched that fraudulent, "Oh, hey, by the way↗

1:32:05@ehsanjoarderFormer Navy SEAL, this former military guy who served the country, who's fit, who's shot pretty much every form of guns, even rocket launchers, was, asking me and Mr. Lucas Gage, who I don't even need to get into that and my personal assessment and everything else, I'll hold that for now, but me and Lucas Gage were asked by this individual who's well versed in all of this stuff, how do I, deal with Israeli politicians and Ben Shapiro, guys? You guys would know, I mean, a twink and a lunatic? What else am I gonna ask? And so it's become comical that this has become some type of, you know, Gentile warrior A versus Gentile warrior B. Meanwhile, one individual has made tens of millions of dollars unperturbed, supposedly with all of these bans and all this other stuff. He's made tens of millions of dollars talking, alright, talking, not doing anything. Talking.↗

1:32:59Speaker 1Forever you gonna let someone deconstruct your retarded points? I mean, yeah, yeah, that's cool, that's cool. Thank you.↗

1:33:21Speaker 2We'll get to, we'll get to, we'll get to, like,↗

1:33:36Speaker 1Yeah, but if he's monologuing for ten minutes and not letting anybody like either push back on any of his points, he makes like twenty points and then doesn't allow any room for nuance or discussion, how long is he gonna monologue until he hits five out of three hours? This, this will be↗

1:33:50Ian Malcolmokay, okay, alright. I don't need everybody. So here's what we will do. So Converse, why don't we give you thirty more seconds and, you can kinda conclude your thoughts on this, to ensure that we kinda balance things out, we'll go↗

1:34:05Ian MalcolmSwamp creature. And, and then we will continue through some of the hands in the order that we're trying to keep them so that this is a civil conversation with differing opinions. So I'm excited to Gen Z Patriot to get up here, by the way. I just wanna give him a big shout out.↗

1:34:18@ehsanjoarderThe final point I was gonna raise is the, the point that she raised about, you know, Nick was trying to work things out behind the scenes, that was the opposite, because both people have, you know, reached out to me and spoke to me about it. What happened was,↗

1:34:35@ehsanjoarderThat broke the camel's back. So that's the, the last point, because he was actually trying to reach out to him, and because he refused, and then he launched this fraudulent attack about, you know, potentially plotting assassinations or something privately in his home without the phones around, that, that was, you know, obviously the last straw. So anyway, I'll leave it at that. There's a lot of information more. I mean, if you guys are aware and you have some connection with the divine, you're gonna be able to figure this stuff out. But, yeah, let↗

1:35:02Ian MalcolmAnd with that being said, we'll go right to Dell, and then we'll go up to Eason, then Official Dre, and then over to Swamp, and, we'll keep rotating through some people here.↗

1:35:11Speaker 2Hey, nice to hear from you, Converse. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Have a blessed day, man.↗

1:35:15Ian MalcolmAnd, and Con, stay up here, I wanna make sure that you get to have a back and forth if, if need be.↗

1:35:19Speaker 3Okay. Go for it. You hear me?↗

1:35:23Ian MalcolmWe sure can.↗

1:35:25Speaker 3Okay. So The ambivalent, the person who you're throwing all your support behind, you obviously don't even know anything about. You're on this like, "Nick is gay" and all this stuff, which is obviously not true, been debunked, very lame, low IQ anti-Semitism. Meanwhile, you wanna talk about how much money-- I can't stay long, I'm in the middle of some stuff. But you wanna talk about how much money Nick Fuentes is making? And he just randomly made it mysteriously just for talking. Gambazzarian made fifty million dollars, and his fortune is allegedly for gambling, which is retarded. If you believe that, keep supporting him, go ahead. But the biggest issue I have is that Aaron Baker is the America First candidate who Gambazzarian could have supported. Instead he's running against and splitting the vote so that Randy Fine wins. So enjoy Randy Fine, Dan Buzilian isn't gonna win. He's gonna split the vote so that Randy Fine definitely wins, and he's gonna continue to be a psyop against y'all. This weird creature you guys know nothing about.↗

1:36:33Speaker 2Well, that's the point of the primary, if there's only three of them, and then that means Randy Fine's gonna be going against one of them if Randy, Randy Fine inevitably goes. So the split the vote thing doesn't make- Doesn't make that much sense to me. It's for the primary. It's a primary.↗

1:36:49Speaker 3It's a primary. It's one of them.↗

1:36:51Speaker 2But you don't↗

1:36:52Speaker 3understand how that would make any sense to your↗

1:36:54Speaker 4life. No, but,↗

1:36:55Speaker 3but, but, but it's the primary. Yeah, but Ian, but Ian, doesn't it... No, but I'm not making the↗

1:36:59Speaker 4point. But Ian, isn't he right about if three people are running in the primaries and two of them represent You know, the anti-Israel point of view, doesn't that split the vote in favor of Randi Fyne? Or am I missing something? He's a harder anti-Israel- It's a hundred percent, it↗

1:37:15Speaker 5does, a hundred percent does split the vote. but also to push back on that, on, on both sides, I think that, you know, at least my understanding going into this was that Dan was a better candidate, more likely to unseat Randi Fyne than Aaron Baker. But picking this fight in the middle of, you know, trying to come out of the gate of↗

1:37:36Speaker 5You know, from why he-- you know, we asked why did, you know, Dan did this, and I can tell you exactly why he did this. You know, Dan lives a very different life than all of us do. Dan's circle, his friends are all his circle, inner circle. He doesn't just go out to a restaurant and like hang out with a bunch of people and, you know, get, get out, get, you know, get in the outside world and interact with normal people. He doesn't do that. He's not out here interacting with young people,↗

1:38:03Speaker 5and That's true. How much influence Nick has on the young people and, and especially in Florida, like Florida Fish and Wildlife is going on. I don't necessarily agree with that last part, but I,↗

1:38:14Speaker 4I still think you make a really, irrespective of Nick, honestly, I think he's a clown, but irrespective of that, I think you make a really good point of the, and, and Ian, in truth, tell me this, if the anti-Israel crowd, and this, this was Charlie Kirk's awareness or awakening, is predominantly people under forty? Why isn't Dan reaching out to those people more? I mean, the average age aside of his constituency, they still exist. I mean, he could pull up and pull off an upset by getting their vote.↗

1:38:45@uzack3But, but I believe he's doing that by going after Nick Forte specifically, who's main demographic is the younger demographic, by saying, "Hey, look, this guy, this guy that first of all won't take a hard position or support a candidate, is in fact, thinks Israel has the right to defend itself. He's said that many times before." The other- One thing I'll point out is I put up one of Aaron Baker's tweets, and he says, "Calling me an anti-Semite when I have stated publicly Israel is our most important ally in the Middle East is disappointing at the least. This guy is pro-Israel. This is Aaron Baker. So people are wondering why Dan Bilzerian won't support Aaron Baker, it's because he's pro-Israel. So there you have it."↗

1:39:24@ehsanjoarderWell, the better question is why won't Aaron Baker and say bow out and offer all of his support to Dan? It's just obvious. Yeah, that's actually- Yeah, that's actually- Yeah, Aaron.↗

1:39:31@uzack3First of all, it's not a crime to make money off of gambling, and, and look, he also had a trust fund as well, throw that in there. Yeah, his dad was rich and he made ill-illusely gotten gains. Nobody den-denies the fact he has a colorful past. But so what? Very different from that. Yeah. Didn't anybody dis You know, Dan's putting a million dollars↗

1:39:56Speaker 5of his own money into this campaign, so you guys, just so you guys are aware, Dan's putting a million dollars of his own money into this campaign. And nobody else, and you didn't make a response. Let me respond. You didn't make it by talking about it. That's why I said,↗

1:40:07@uzack3you can't take a position on the fact that your other guys don't call out Israel, one staunchly pro-Israel. Okay, let me respond. Let me respond. You can in a sec, you can wait your turn. So only one candidate is anti-Israel, anti-foreign aid funding for Israel, the other two aren't, period. So that stands for a whole lot more than him making his money off of gambling, which last I checked, the Jews are all for, and it's not a crime to gamble, is it, and make money that way or inherit money through a trust fund, which Trump did himself, he had over, he inherited over two hundred million dollars from his father. Go ahead, Trump literally owns casinos. Yeah, okay, well, no argument there. Okay. Well, we, we, we have He's on record. He's on record. Jfk, stop interrupting. There's tons of people that will take your place. Are the, you've been doing, you've done this consistently. So, so this is Del's opportunity to interrupt. Yeah, here's, here's what we're gonna, here's↗

1:40:57Ian Malcolmwhat we're gonna do. Truth, here's what we're gonna do. Because JFK, you've been spamming the purple pill, I brought you up twice, both times you interrupted, you've now done it a third time. Instead, what we're going to do to try↗

1:41:15Ian MalcolmOf, of interrupting, but I will let you cut the cue. Ready, set, go.↗

1:41:24Speaker 3Okay, so here's the thing, his trust fund, on the podcast he admitted↗

1:41:28Ian MalcolmJFK did it right. I, I don't understand. J-JFK, are you there?↗

1:41:34Speaker 1My question is, why don't you allow Dell to respond, 'cause it was his turn to go anyways? We will go- Oh my↗

1:41:38Ian MalcolmGod, we will go back to him. Okay. If I have to repeat myself, this individual keeps complaining that he's not getting the chance to speak despite waiting for three hours. We brought him up, he's interrupted three times. I don't wanna have you guys be interrupted. I'm trying to do this for the benefit of the entire space, not for him. But JFK, you have one minute! We will wait this out if you don't come off of mute. But if I-- if you don't speak for sixty seconds and we then send you down, and then you go to the purple pill and complain, you're not muted, by the way. You can come in at any time. No, I'm, I, I'm, I'm here. Okay, okay, okay. Sixty seconds, go for it, go for it.↗

1:42:14Speaker 6Okay, I am a German American. I, I- Agree intellectually with Nick Fuentes, but I believe that he is deceiving us. I, I think that he, his, his intellect is what makes him↗

1:42:47@uzack3you're painful to listen to. The fact you put GFK as your profile picture was an excellent order, but↗

1:42:59Speaker 6there is an absolute disgrace. No,↗

1:43:12Speaker 6no, As addicting as he may be, his intellect is what actually is, is,↗

1:43:29Speaker 6enticing.↗

1:43:31Ian MalcolmThe I-↗

1:43:32Speaker 4I can- No, no, no,↗

1:43:33Ian Malcolmhang on, hang on. You got ten more seconds, JFK. Ready, go.↗

1:43:35Speaker 4Just three words. Okay, one word.↗

1:43:42Speaker 6Okay. Crisis came and America first.↗

1:43:46Ian MalcolmWell, alright, okay, and I will try to appreciate and respect that. And here's what's going to happen. Some of the disingenuous-- and yeah, I'm just gonna call it for what it is. Some of the disingenuous Groypers, I can just see it tomorrow. It will be Ian Malcolm's high IQ spaces, and they will clip that individual and say, "Look at the brilliance of these faces that dared to counter signal Nick Fuentes." Fuck no,↗

1:44:07@nietzsche258918he won't. He's trying to claim Nick Groypers. We Well,↗

1:44:11Ian Malcolmokay, please don't. but my point is, the infighting is ridiculous. We should be able to have- Timer, I was actually timing the guy. I try to be a man of my word. But we are, we're trying to have a high IQ conversation about this. Everybody is entitled to come up. We will try to respect all voices, even those that might be a little bit more comfortable to listen to than others. But with that being said, we will go back to Dell. It was his turn. JFK, I did, I let you come up, and, Go to the next speaker. Go for it, Donald. Hey, wait, wait, wait. Thank you so much. I'm gonna throw some questions. He was much better at interrupting. I'm gonna add something.↗

1:44:46Speaker 2It was an important message.↗

1:44:47@uzack3He was much better at interrupting. Important message. He wasn't presenting a coherent thought when it was his turn. Just want to point that out. All↗

1:44:52Speaker 2right. Alright. okay, so Jake Fields should be joining us any minute now, okay? According to him, so he, he could be showing up at any minute. And then, and the next thing is, is yes, Aaron, I, I did look it up myself, and Aaron is a, supporter of Israel and, supports sending more tax money to Israel. Okay, continue.↗

1:45:15Speaker 3Thank you. Okay, so-↗

1:45:16@uzack3Why, Dan, Dan's in.↗

1:45:18Speaker 3Alright, can I speak now? Okay, so obviously Aaron Baker also knows his base, and a lot of them are boomers. He's trying to win, so he's not gonna be super hard on Israel. Go look at his ex, though. Go look at what he says online, and he doesn't support APAC, he doesn't support Jewish interests in America, so he's taking a middle stance because it'll work for his base, for his voters. Go look at his profile. As far as whoever said, "Oh Dan Bilzerian, he's just really smart and made a bunch of money from gambling and Trump, Trump owns casinos and he has a trust fund. Dan Bilzerian said on a podcast that he gave away his trust fund, all of it. He didn't make any of his money from his trust fund. So he's claiming that publicly, his money is from gambling and he's just the smartest, luckiest man in the world. He made all his money from gambling. And then, oh, Trump, who, who gives a fuck about what Trump does or his casinos? He sold us out too. Anyways, I gotta get going. Thanks for letting me respond. I was just↗

1:46:16Speaker 5trying to make a point that even, I mean, Trump had casinos, that's all I was trying to say. I wasn't trying to like back him up or anything.↗

1:46:23Ian MalcolmLook at this, having a conversation where people aren't at each other's throats, it's a wonderful thing. Let's go to Mr. Truth Tower, always jump in, my friend, and then we'll go down to the Forest, who's been around here a while, and then we'll go to the Swamp Man.↗

1:46:37@uzack3Alright, well, you didn't address the post that's in, that's in the nest that Aaron Baker stated that, Israel is our most important ally in the Middle East. Do you think that, he gets a pass 'cause he's trying to, to claim or draw the vote of the, the boomers that are within his district and that makes it legit? I mean, that's a bait and switch then. So how can you trust him like that? That's just typical, you know, politician right there. Whereas Dan's going illegitimate and taking a hard stand against↗

1:47:06Speaker 2Agreed. Agreed.↗

1:47:11Ian MalcolmToo many-- How many times do you want to respond before we go to the next speaker?↗

1:47:18Ian MalcolmNo, okay. And he said he had to go, so I'm not taking that as, anything but just him not being available. And by the way, just for the↗

1:47:23@uzack3record, Dan also made money off of his company, out of big company. He's, he's done some other stuff too, and if you needed more cash, he could monetize his Instagram in a second. He had thirty-three million followers there. There's a lot of money to be made on↗

1:47:37Ian MalcolmNo, very good comment. And I, I wanna make sure also to call out, we got Easton in here who's actually part of the Bill Zarian campaign. I think he also either self identifies as or knows lots of grippers, so it'd be really nice to have his perspective. but the force has been in here a while, let's go to the force, and then we'll go to Mr. Swamp, and then we'll check in with Mr. Dry. Hey, what's↗

1:47:55@nietzsche258918going on? Can, can you guys hear me? We↗

1:48:00Ian Malcolmcan, you sound awfully far away↗

1:48:05@nietzsche258918Okay, yeah, there's, there's something going on with my Bluetooth. One second, I'm gonna try to hook this up. Let me see here. Can you hear me better now? We can, yes.↗

1:48:17@nietzsche258918All right, cool. so my point is basically, we talked about this the other day, Ian, unfortunately, Nick Fuentes and Dan Beldarian haven't mentioned the, the Rothschild family, who you just heard Truth Teller- Talk about how they, they bailed out Trump's family casinos in the nineties. It was Wilbur Ross of Rothschild Incorporated, and they own Trump. Trump does whatever they want. Who else owns Trump? Miriam Adelson, hundred million dollars donated to him. So everything we're talking about, when, when, when it comes to solutions, right? So we have to think about, how do we lower the cost of living for everyone? That's the al-- the only thing that matters. How do we do that? Now, clearly Is it a Jew problem? Well, well, right now the Rothschilds are in charge. They call themselves Jews. They run the Federal Reserve, the European Central Bank. You can see the picture with Lynne Rothschild, all buddy buddy with Christine Lagarde. I mean, she's-- they're probably all Rothschilds, like cousins or some shit. Okay, Christine Lagarde. And then the, the Bank for International Settlements, I'll post that. Somebody wrote a great article, I had to go to Yandex to find it. They created that, of course. Now, how do they create things and run things? Through their agents, through their representative. That's why you, Stace Mullins, in his book, The Secret to the Federal Reserve, he says it was the Rothschild representatives who installed the Federal Reserve. They're not, they're not like Game of Thrones, they don't go around and say, "Oh, it's House Rothschild," and stick their fucking flag in front of the Federal Reserve building and take it over. They have somebody else do their dirty work. And, and people like Trump think he's a big tough guy, thinks, thinks he's smart. He's a retard. All his businesses failed, his casinos failed. He called himself the debt king. Yeah, he is the fucking debt king. He added eight trillion to our national debt his first term. Big beautiful bill, Massie says gonna add ten trillion more. We're forty trillion in debt. So, so all the things we're talking about, like you said, both, all the candidates are bought. And, and ninety-nine percent of the Congress in there now is already heavily bought and owned, which term limits is the only thing that can start draining them out, and then giving us a chance every four years, right? To elect a Dan Bilzerian, somebody new. Now, unfortunately, Bilzerian, or Flintez doesn't talk about the Rothschild family, who, we just had the Epstein files come out where Epstein emails Peter Thiel and says, "As you probably know, 'cause everyone in that world fucking knows, who the mafia is, who runs it." I represent, quote, the Rothschilds, Epstein. You had James Comer come out and say, "Yeah, they paid him twenty-five million dollars directly." He's meeting-- You had the Wall Street Journal, he's meeting with this, the Biden-CNN, fucking, or CIA director, Ariane de Rothschild, she's emailing him about how great the hunt was. This is fucking ludicrous. The only way we're gonna change things, right, to get the cost of living down for everyone, so we're, we're all stop suffering under this oppression This usury oppression, all right? I'm gonna call it what it is. These people come from Babylon, okay? This is the bloodlines. We can't do this shit if we don't ban lobbying, and then every time I bring it up, everyone's like, "Oh, there's no way we can do that. They'll never do that. Of course, that's why we gotta physically, peacefully protest." You go with a specific set, you have to protest in a smart way, you can't be retarded and let it get hijacked. You have to put signs every ten or fifteen feet that says, "We're fucking peaceful, we're not gonna trespass or destroy property," then the feds can't ruin it. If anyone does that, you say they're a fed, you call 'em out. You also,↗

1:51:38@nietzsche258918you, you don't leave until they do what you wanna do, so you expect to stay there for months and months. Okay? This is gonna be, this is gonna be ML We need to let them know right now, we want term limits, we want to ban all lobbying from fucking AIPAC, all the PACs, 'cause, 'cause that's where Mary, all these, all the billionaires, the Jewish billionaires, Musk, all these people, Soros, Adelson, they get around it through these PACs. No, Soros and Adelson can only donate fifty dollars to each candidate, and we're gonna stay in DC at the Capitol peacefully until that happens, 'cause right now, when you have Mary and Adelson give Trump a hundred million dollars and say, "You Flatten it, Gaza, Iran, and, and you're gonna let them just fucking take it over, even though it causes World War III, makes our gas prices ridiculous. You know why? 'Cause I own you. So it looks like my vote for Trump and all, everyone else who voted for Trump, didn't mean anything. You know whose vote mattered? Marianne Maxwellson, 'cause she's worth, she gave him a hundred million, and the Rothschilds, 'cause they bail them out. You have Nat Rothschild on Twitter ordering Trump around.↗

1:52:39@uzack3The, the job taking over Venezuela, Trump↗

1:52:46@uzack3Seventy-five million, a hundred, a hundred, now it's two hundred and fifty million on top of that if he runs for the third term.↗

1:52:52@nietzsche258918It's even, yeah, it's even worse. And then you look at everyone, and how much more must he be getting just, just secretly that we don't know about through these PACs and all that, and truth tellers aren't even- Not↗

1:53:02@uzack3secretly. He does million-dollar plate, and this is all documented, you know, the, the, it's been leaked at, at, at Mar-a-Lago, he↗

1:53:16@uzack3Or family members of these convicts, many of them Jewish, can come in to these events, pay the million dollars, they will consider the case and then sell the pardon. That's how he's raising further funds as well.↗

1:53:26@nietzsche258918Exactly. And now he's got golden statues of himself, and I gotta see retarded, my fellow first two hundred and eighty artists. Eight, four, or by two hundred↗

1:53:33@uzack3and eighty artists.↗

1:53:35@nietzsche258918Yeah, yes! He's putting up Lucifer fucking arts. That's Lucifer on that art. You know how I know? Go ahead and look at that photo, that Lord Rothschild, Jacob, the late, the late great Jacob Rothschild, twenty nineteen, he has his, he has Jeffrey Epstein, Jewish supremacist, and his buddy, super Jew, Nathan Wolff, release COVID on us. And then that, that year later, twenty nineteen, they had, the Rothschild, that Rothschild Foundation, have the satanic spirit cooking, demon summoning witch, Marina Abramovic, he poses with her in front of Satan summoning his legions, and who's there in the back? Who's the retard in the back↗

1:54:10@nietzsche258918That's Lucifer. And you look at Albert Pike, thirty-third degree mason. One mile north of the White House is the Scottish Rite headquarters, and you have a fucking six thousand six hundred and sixty tall inch tall Osiris penis. That's what the Washington Monument is. Okay, wait a second. All right,↗

1:54:26Speaker 4we, we got it. I'm finishing the pattern. But,↗

1:54:29@nietzsche258918but, back to the point, we gotta solve the problem. You gotta, you gotta ban lobbying. You gotta get rid of the Federal Reserve and decouple from the Rothschild biz. If we don't get The, the B system coming up, we gotta decouple from that, go back to a gold standard. You gotta get rid of, you get term limits, four-year term limits for Congress and the Supreme Court. That would, that would do nothing.↗

1:54:50@nietzsche258918It would, how would that do nothing?↗

1:54:51Speaker 4Because the, the Washington class that runs our government, they're, they're unelected, and all you're doing is switching, the, the same people are gonna control things, right? Dude, I'm sorry, but- Okay, but, but I'm also banning- I'm sorry, but We have to ban lobbying, too. So none of the↗

1:55:07@nietzsche258918people are going to go for all of this. I call↗

1:55:09Speaker 4these king for a day speeches because you're operating on this idea that government is, legitimate, that it's sincere, and gosh, gosh, we have to make them do it, sir. We have↗

1:55:18@nietzsche258918to piece the protests. All right, listen, we gotta stop being picky and being smart.↗

1:55:22Speaker 4You're, okay, I didn't mean to interrupt you while you're interrupting me, but listen, this idea, we have to ban lobbying, okay? The, the people, turn the chessboard around. The people in Congress right now laugh at you when you say these things. They say, "Well, aren't you adorable?" It's the same thing as when you go-- That's why we have to protest physically, sir. That's what I'm saying, sir. Okay. Okay, so let's say you go stand outside their window with a sign. They look down. Me and a million others, yes. Yeah, okay. So let, let's, let's think of it in another way. You, the, the words consent of the governed are a real thing. That is one thing that is real, is that we have to-- it's a belief system. We have to believe in their legitimacy to rule over us. And so the, the real secret to this, to winning, is the Great Awakening, is for a preponderant number of people or a significant critical mass of them to realize the biggest problem in America is Jewish supremacy. It's better to not participate. Hold on. Okay.↗

1:56:21@nietzsche258918But then what's your solution? If everyone realizes that, what do you physically- Hold on. Listen, you cannot-↗

1:56:27Speaker 4You cannot substitute volume for thought. Okay? So lower your voice, your microphone's working just fine. And just, just-- but you need to understand this. This idea of playing the game, this idea, we're gonna propitiate them, we're gonna beg them, you know, they aren't your representatives. People say, "Well, they don't own us, they work for us." No, they don't. You work for them. They can come drag you out of your house if you don't pay their taxes. You clearly work for them. This is slavery, and the movement we're in is one of emancipation. The way out is the awake-- hold on, the way out I don't know if you have, we talk about existing outside the political system, but this idea that, oh, you know, we're all just gonna end lobbying. okay, well, what, what does that mean? What does that mean, sir? What does that mean? Hold on. My God. Hold on. But the idea that the people in Congress right now, you're gonna try to pass laws, and you're gonna go, hey, people, would you please kick your own ass and cut your own throat? No, they're not going to do that, okay? They're↗

1:57:33Speaker 4That's not how this works. That's what you're doing. That's not how this works, son. It doesn't work that way. That's what you're doing. They're not gonna do that. No, I'm saying↗

1:57:38@nietzsche258918to protest, to physically make them do it like Martin Luther King did, sir, like Gandhi did, and tell the British to get the fuck out of India.↗

1:57:44Ian MalcolmSo we'll get forty-five more seconds from Forrest. Why don't you round it all out, 'cause it's a very long tirade. We'll then go to some of the other speakers, and when↗

1:58:01@nietzsche258918D-David, David, listen, you're, you're saying, "Oh, the solution isn't actually term limits and real policy, it's the, the awakening of true principles," and you offer no actual policy. Term limits do nothing. Term limits do↗

1:58:13Speaker 4nothing. What does that mean? Okay. Term limits just make- What does that mean? If↗

1:58:15@nietzsche258918everyone was awake at truth, and you don't get rid of the, would you get rid of the Federal Reserve? So would you get↗

1:58:18Speaker 4rid of the Federal Reserve? We should have yelled louder though.↗

1:58:22@nietzsche258918Would, would you, would you get rid of↗

1:58:27@nietzsche258918To, to David, don't we need to ban Elon Musk? So people can't buy from billionaires. Whether they're Jews or not, Elon Musk or, or the Rockefellers weren't Jewish, they say they're Christian, but they bought all the politicians, didn't they? So Jewish supremacy wouldn't have fixed that. You gotta wake up, even though they were owned by the Rothschilds, but you see, they'll use other people, just saying, "Oh, Jewish supremacy," that does nothing,↗

1:58:49Ian Malcolmman. Nothing. Alright, well, well, thank you for us, we're↗

1:58:58Speaker 7Hey, what's up, guys? Can you hear me? We sure can. Cool, man. Yeah, I don't do spaces too often, so I don't know, a little lost, but now you guys are my friends that hopped on here. What, what are we talking about? Any cool, exciting topics or what?↗

1:59:09Ian MalcolmWell, yeah, Jake, what we're trying to get to the, the bottom of is, is how we can make sense of what we're seeing. There's a lot of infighting. Obviously, the, the Nick and Dan scenario is pretty Of, of the awakening, if you will, but, but obviously we do need to call out bad actors when we see them, so kind of having a little bit of a dialogue and, and excited to get your thoughts on it.↗

1:59:36Speaker 7Yeah, I try very hard to avoid infighting. If you'll notice, I almost never attack anyone that's saying the right things, you know, Candice, Tucker, Dan, any of you guys. But then I think with both Lucas and Nick, it got so extreme that they're not on our side to the point where they have to be. I mean I think with Nick, he's so popular and he is such a good speaker↗

5:59:55Speaker 8Meanwhile, we do know that real things did happen in J six and Charlottesville. It is hypothetical↗

6:00:00@ehsanjoarderhappened. Nothing happened. My↗

6:00:01Speaker 9point, my points about, first of all, the what do you get out of the event and like low IQ stuff, and that's exactly what it was. The on-- I guess only reason I remember it for is because you were in a space talking, and I remember, wait a minute, that's very familiar. Where I remember this from. And I'm thinking, I'm like, oh wait, actually I do remember. You're trying to do some weird stuff like↗

6:00:25@ehsanjoarderYou and I were in a space discussing this very subject, and we were talking about the distinction between online activism and in real life, and that there's nothing wrong with doing both, and that was the ultimate conclusion of that. And prior to that, the only reason-↗

6:00:37Speaker 10Alright, are we-- I think we're getting into the old circles again. I know Andre has his hand up, and Andy has his hand up, and Adam has his hand up.↗

6:00:46Ian MalcolmYeah, let's, let's go back to, and, and look, people are welcome to dive more into that little debate between the two of them. take it for what you will. And if you want more on it, Con and, Chief Trumpster, always, my DMs are open. You guys are welcome to have a debate on that, separately. But to bring↗

6:01:05Ian Malcolmit Then we will check in with Andy, who hasn't gotten a chance to speak, then we'll go over to Andre, but before we do, let's go to Chief Tromster, 'cause he does have his hand up just for any final words before we go to Adam.↗

6:01:17Speaker 9Yeah, I told you before I had to go, I don't have too much time up here, but I just wanna go and like-↗

6:01:23Ian MalcolmI think it's the, the double mute, Chief, I got you.↗

6:01:29Speaker 9Yeah, sorry about that. I told you before, again, I had to go maybe twenty, thirty minutes ago or so, but I just wanted to bring up, in terms of like this with Nick and, and Dan and all that, is about risk and like what you're putting yourself or getting yourself into and doing stuff IRL like that, it definitely is a risk, and I hope people who, you know, are, are, are putting events together or whatever, they don't march on the ADL, because if they do, they could get, again, like screenshots or, or pictures taken of They could have a lot of bad things happen. That's why, like, I was worrying about stuff in twenty twenty-three, and I'm still worried up now because there's low IQs like doing stuff IRL, that is gonna possibly get people, you know, hurt or, or, you know, in, and put themselves in a bad position. That's kind of why I was, Chief, I'm,↗

6:02:14Ian MalcolmI'm curious for your thoughts on this because I, I actually, I, I agree with a lot of those sentiments, but I wanna be very clear with, with maybe the area I think that for individuals that are going to speak about Jewish supremacy, which I believe, or Jewish supremacism, whichever term you wanna use, is the foremost problem facing the United States of America because everything is essentially captured. I sincerely believe that. I think that people need to learn about this subject, they need to do what they can within the confines of what they feel comfortable. Maybe that is within just their family, within their circle of friends, within their coworkers, their, their, classmates, whatever, right? I think that that is what needs to happen. It needs to be an organic growth Of these conversations and discussions digitally and in the real world to a point where we get enough of a movement and a mass that we can peacefully, and I wanna reiterate that, peacefully protest and show our opposition to the supremacist system. And at that point, there is going to obviously have to be a real life manifestation of it, which is why I'm very excited about Dan Bilzerian. But I think that that real life representation of it can't be littered with hateful, and I guess you'd use the term, low IQ animus merely directed at anybody and everybody. Based on their ethnicity or their religion. I think that's a reasonable way to go about it, but I do think that it's unreasonable to suggest that nobody should ever aspire to get to a point where they can be in the street, in the streets, again, peacefully protesting these things. I think we'd both agree on that, yeah?↗

6:03:44Speaker 9So I think right now in the political climate, I mean, like, at this very time, definitely not, but like in the future, like, you know, like, you know, however long it is when there's, I guess, more normalization and stuff, you know, that's a different story, but like right now in this reality we're living in. I mean, it, it's just a very big risk. But I mean, you can, people, people can do whatever, again, they wanna do, but I'm just pointing this out there about how there's a lot of risk to it and there's like zero award, reward for it, essentially. The-- I understand↗

6:04:12Speaker 10there's a lot of risk and zero reward, and you may think that zero reward, I call it sacrifice. And I'm just an old peasant, that's why I, I went mask off was, and I do it with faith↗

6:04:27Speaker 10I'm trying to let other people know that, hey, if an old peasant like me can do it, and I'm still working a job, and if anything, I'm, I'm building a, an audience of people that I'm trying to encourage that they have talents, ideas, and abilities, and that we can come together, mask off. We don't need to hide our power levels. I think that's a very niche position, but, you know, it's high risk, low reward. But it's not that, when you believe in God like I do, it's-- there↗

6:04:55Speaker 9Well, I'll say I'll, I'll commend your, your bravery and, you know, if people can sacrifice and all that, but I think this is more of like a long game and it's gonna take not like a, an event, it's gonna take, you know, years and years, and which is what, in a sense, you know, online posts has, has really done, like most people in the mainstream now are talking about things like Israel and all that because of consist- of consistent, like, you know, posting and stuff, talks online and debates and, and clipping and all And if you do, keep doing this and all that, like more and more people, young generation, Gen Z, like they're already waking up too. But the, the fact is, if you wanna sacrifice, you know, and put yourself online, you know, like that's on you, and that could put you in a very bad position, and I think this is gonna put↗

6:05:41Speaker 10us in a bad position. And the, and the whole thing, the whole idea that we have, you know, all these years, you know, tomorrow, overnight, they could just hit a button and just, Must remain anonymous and online when they are building the tools to digitally destroy us, not via just the internet, but in real life with palantir and flock cameras and all that. Like, we don't have all the time in the world. The long game, we, we need men who are willing to sacrifice their life in the real world so that way we can move the battlefield from the anonymous four chan posts to, to X, and then eventually in real life. It ha- I mean, this is where it's gotta be You can't, we don't have all the time in the world.↗

6:06:27Speaker 11It's not gonna happen in a democratic system designed by Jews. That's, that's all I have to say. Exactly. Exactly. No, no, no, if you wanna talk about the voting here, real↗

6:06:35Speaker 12quick, guys, I gotta go. You're gonna go to me and I, I gotta run. first thing, I, it's really an, like, tedious, everybody needs to dial it back a little bit with just the constantly Jew-jacketing and Fed-jacketing everybody. It's like, it's like cartoon level. The Jews are probably listening in, just like, laughing their asses off at how stupid everybody sounds and how paranoid all the Goyim are. I, I just heard this guy that I was talking to earlier, this Christian guy, like, "Bruh, you're calling yourself a peasant, like, low IQ peasant. Might as well call yourself a Goyim↗

6:07:11Speaker 12I call myself a peasant, and, and yeah, dude, peasant, yeah, and you, and that's the way I wanna use the word, the word is↗

6:07:16Ian Malcolmhumility, and that's what Christopher was showcasing. It's, it's humility and honor and nobility, and I don't know why those would be foreign concepts.↗

6:07:25Speaker 10I call myself a peasant, but I also know that I'm a child of God, and you think that you're just an evolved monkey, okay?↗

6:07:33Speaker 12You think you're, created from Adam and Eve and you think you're a monkey.↗

6:07:37Speaker 10The Hebrew Torah told you. And you think you're a monkey. Yeah, yeah, we are, we're apes. Okay. So I can be a, I can be a peasant, I can be a peasant, and you'll be a monkey, okay? That's just the way the cookie will- I'll be a highly↗

6:07:48Speaker 12evolved, highly evolved brain ape, yes, proud of it. All right. And I'm proud to be a peasant. What I wanted to say before I left is that, like Leonarda earlier was, was talking about Lucas, and everybody's been fed-jacketing Lucas 'cause he walked back his like, the crash-out spiral he had where he spurged out a little too hard. They were doxing him, they were messing with him. He's done this many times. I think he's a sincere military guy. He's got some PTSD issues, he's very open about it. So he, he, he crashes out He walks it back, he crashes out, he walks it back, doesn't mean he's a fett. If anything, it seems more genuine and authentic to me. Really, the whole reason everybody's been attacking him so much though, is 'cause he called out Stu Peters and his J-Proof meme coin crypto scam, which he rightfully should have-- J-Proof, brother. He lost nine thou-- He lost nine thousand dollars on it, and from, from Stu, who he thought it was his friend and was lying to him. So that's the real reason that the feud started with Lucas Those guys. I've been critical of Lucas for, for him even getting in with those people and the low IQ antisemitism that actually helps Jews more than it hurts them, 'cause they, they thrive off the victimhood and being persecuted and hated. That's why we have to have some standards and have some rational, secular, defensible critiques and not let the, the low IQ antisemitism run rampant. That's all I'm trying to say. I think everybody needs to- Maybe dial back the, baseless accusations of murder, thank you, Leonardo, in your skizzo converse. How, how many more years are you gonna go spurg out about that, by the way? And Check out my new book, The Jesus Deception, to learn how Jesus is a Jewish myth. The J-- Hold on, Jesus is a myth, and the point of the Messiah is to conquer the Gentiles. That's what the book's about. You guys have a nice Mother's Day. Thank you, Ian. Thank you, everybody. Take care. Of↗

6:09:52Ian Malcolmcourse.↗

6:09:52Speaker 11Thank you, Adam, for coming↗

6:09:53Speaker 12and sharing your wisdom.↗

6:09:55Speaker 10Jesus Christ is King. Have a blessed day.↗

6:09:57Ian MalcolmWell, and, and, Christopher, I love that, and, and the idea, of humility, I, I thought that you represented that really well. And, and look, we're, we're all just peasants at the end of the day in, regards to that higher power that some of us sub-subscribe to, and Adam doesn't, and he's welcome to his take, and I've, I've talked to him about it. We did a space on it, people can go back and search for it if they wanna go listen to it. It was↗

6:10:27Ian MalcolmWe need to be able to come together calmly, rationally, intellectually, discuss these realities, which in this case, it might be two candidates, but they also reflect maybe two different approaches to this problem, as does Dan and his alternative, who was in here, maybe two hours ago or so, right? They present a very different vision on what they would do and how they would discuss this problem. I, I personally think Dan Vildarian is, is taking the right tact on this issue, because especially in contrast to Randy Fine, the A very easy way to just expose this and to bring national attention to a campaign, and at the, at the end of the day, look, Adam is probably right. There's probably a whole bunch of people that might see Dan Bilzerian and say that Jewish supremacy is a problem, and maybe they might be averse to it. But there's probably ten, five, twenty, thirty percent of people who might be willing to listen a little bit more, right? This is one of those things that once you notice the patterns, you can't really avoid them. You can say it's crazy and it's↗

6:11:28Speaker 11Wait a second, Ian. What would, what would Adams say if Dan Blazarian was talking about Christian supremacy? Would he say, "You're crazy, you can't talk about that"?↗

6:11:36Ian MalcolmWell, and that's, that's the thing, right? there's cle- clearly only one supremacy, and how do we know this? Because white supremacy has been the villain of essentially my entire life, and I know that because I can show you a long roster of books that are written about that very problem. I can show you clip after clip of newscasters saying that very thing, and↗

6:11:57Ian MalcolmAnd if I look at the pundits and I look at the ownership of those networks where those things were said, I notice a common pattern. Right? You're allowed to hate on white people, it's totally fine. Why is that fine? Maybe it's because we live in a society not run by white people, obviously. So then we, it's only reasonable to reverse engineer. Well, who is it then that controls all these levers of power? Because if whites controlling everything is bad, well, then wouldn't it be really bad if a group that makes up a teeny tiny little fraction? Controls everything. And so that's why I've tried, and people like truth teller, Christopher, did this better than anybody about COVID. And Christopher, bravely for what it's worth, mask off, went into town squares, literally, not just the digital town square of X, and he said, "Look at all these Jews involved in COVID across all the various companies, across all the various government organizations. So you were forced to get a shot that we now know is skyrocketing cancer, it's skyrocketing down rates of fertility, and it's..." Doing all sorts of other terrible things to us. And who is it that ran that effort? Is it the same people that control the media, that control the technology, that control the politicians, that control everything? At some point, it's no longer worthwhile to say, "Well, how do we work in a system that they have built and make sure that we pacify the boomers that are asleep at the wheel because the prices of their homes keep going up, the 401k for the most part keeps going up, and they're just gonna ride off into the sunset with whatever time they have left↗

6:13:27Ian Malcolmto your mother, to your sister, to your family, to your whoever, right? We should do that. We should paint a beautiful image of what can be. Because you know what I want? I want a Mother's Day in the not so distant future where OnlyFans isn't a thing, where pornography isn't celebrated at every turn, where all the social media apps don't say that it's hateful and that it needs to be suppressed and censored if you talk about Jewish supremacy, but that if you wanna show your tits, we're gonna throw you in front of a bunch of thirteen year olds. And↗

6:13:57Ian Malcolm25 are literal prostitutes for a digital app whose, oh by the way, former owner, who's now dead, sent a lot of his money to APAC and to Israel. That's insane. We aren't slaves to a foreign nation, we aren't slaves to a small subset of people, and we're certainly not going to be their slaves if the way that they expect us to act is to thank them for being prostitutes and to turn our, as David would say, our sons into daughters and our daughters into whores. That's over. It is done. And so we can try to work within the system and say, "Well, maybe we should send this, literally, this homosexual man to go combat Randy Fine, because he might be a little bit more palatable for the boomers." No, I think that's silly. I think you take Dan Vildarian, you take all the media coverage, and then to the comment that Chief Trumpster just made, you make sure that as people start discussing Jewish supremacy, that you remain calm, that you don't hate anybody, you just say it's really unreasonable for one group of people to control just about everything. Everything, and in the process, to demoralize us, to steal all of our money, to take all of our troops and our military to offshore to the Middle East, while telling us that we have to thank them for it, while criminalizing the very act of telling them that they have too much power, which, oh, by the way, Randi Fyne and a whole bunch of other people are trying to push for. That's got to end. And so candidates like Dan Vellarian, if they're willing to, to make a splash and a cannonball, well, then maybe people look↗

6:15:26Ian MalcolmStuff, not because we hate things, but because we love our citizenry, we love our society, we love our civilization that's being destroyed by mass migration, pornography, all of the other horrors of modernity. That's gotta end. So I apologize for the long rant. I know we've got a couple more hands. I don't know how much longer we're gonna run this, just 'cause I know Truth was having to wind down. I don't know what Christopher's schedule is, but we'll make sure to go through the rest of the hands that are up here. I do wanna start with↗

6:15:56Ian MalcolmAnd, get some thoughts from him, who's a animated, colorful individual. We'll get to that in a moment. But, for the time being, let's start with Mr. Andy.↗

6:16:04Speaker 13Okay, finally, yeah. There's, okay, there's a lot I need to get off my chest. Like, yeah, like, yeah, people, like, yeah, we don't have twenty years to slowly infiltrate the system. Like, I get Nick's take on that. Like, yes, it, I do get Nick's take on that because, like, yes, we Out of Palantir, because that is coming down the pipe. JD Vance wants to create a Palantir slave state, and he wants to enslave us, and Nick is entirely right on that point, and we don't have twenty years, because if JD Vance wins in twenty twenty-eight, that's it, and all, they can just wipe all of us off the internet at any point. So yes, we don't have twenty years, and that is where Nick is also right on that point, that we have to stop JD Vance at all costs. And if you think that, oh, Gavin News↗

6:16:56Speaker 13You don't, Gavin, look what the Democrats did under Biden. Look at X before Elon Musk and how censored that was. None of this, these conversations could have happened on an X before Elon and, and X, and you, I think X in a few years is gonna be very censored, so we need to try to get some type of America First candidate in, whether it's a Massey, whether it's MTG, just someone that's not,↗

6:17:25Speaker 13The binary choice of a Newsom or a JD Vance and going back to, to saying, "Oh, we're gonna hide online," like that's just not good enough anymore. Like, if there's a viable protest, like just look at the positive change that we're seeing, all these stories of thousands of people protesting data centers, and they're actually getting data center projects canceled. You can actually go out and impact positive change. If, if I'm not saying you have to go out, if you don't feel comfortable going out, I'm not saying, "Oh, you have to go out and↗

6:17:54Speaker 13Anyone to do anything, everyone can do what they feel is right from, for themselves. And on this whole thing of everyone calling each other feds, I don't think Nick, Nick isn't a fed, Dan isn't a fed, Lucas isn't a fed, Jake Shields isn't a fed, none of them are feds. I think all of this fighting is absolutely stupid. We need to come together, we need to beat Randy Fine, we need to get James Fisk back elected. I think we should vote for Dan Bilzerian, I think we should vote for James Fisk↗

6:18:21Speaker 13back, and No, if they don't win, it's damaging for the credibility of the movement. That's stupid. The Nazis got less than three percent in twenty twenty-eight, then the Great Depression happened, they got seventeen percent in nineteen thirty, then they got thirty-seven percent in, nineteen thirty-two. So a movement doesn't magically just start with, "Oh, they win the first time." No. You put an idea out there, you take a risk, you stand on your principles, and then it builds over time.↗

6:18:55Speaker 13So look at Casey Puchin, Ohio. He got eighteen percent. So whatever your opinions may or may not be on him, he got eighteen percent running against a billionaire while being shadow banned on X. I'd say that's pretty impressive, whether you like him or not. So in the fact that no one got behind him, and you may wanna call out Nick for not getting behind him, that's fine, but I'd say Tucker bears just as much responsibility for not getting behind him as does Candace, because they also have large platforms and they claim to be opposing Israel, and where the heck were they? So if you wanna shit on Nick for not getting behind, Casey then also give the same energy to Tucker and Candace, and Dan didn't talk about Casey Pugh until after the election. So he got mad at Nick and called Nick a f— first, saying, "Oh, why weren't you backing Casey?" Dan never meant-- tweeted about Casey Pugh one time until after the election. So, yeah, so this whole thing about, "Oh, no, backing Casey," no one with a big platform backed Casey. The only people that backed Casey was Ian and Truth, who actually held a space with Casey. So all of these influencers fighting over Casey? None of them actually backed Casey leading into the election, so it's all stupid. Dan or Nick have no leg to stand on there because none of them backed him, so them fighting over Casey, I think, is stupid. I, because none of them backed Casey is all I'm gonna say there.↗

6:20:19Ian MalcolmNo, and, and, and it's well stated. And, and look, it's one of those things, I, you know, we can try to understand people based on their words, I think it's far easier to notice what it is that they do, their actions, right, and to judge them on the consistency of those. And so when it came to Casey, heard about his campaign, tried to do what we could to hold multiple spaces actually for him, and it was nice because he, of course, was in there when we had the space with,↗

6:20:48Ian MalcolmTo, come out on the, the victorious side. but it is, it's worth noting, right? Some people saying I was unaware of his campaign, that's maybe reasonable if they're not anywhere near Ohio and not watching a lot of these races. but it is of monumental significance because now the options are, Vivek Ramaswamy, who obviously is gonna bring in the JD Vance, Peter Thiel nonsense, or a Jewish woman. And I, I do find it kind of curious that there weren't more people trying to get involved in that race from↗

6:21:18Ian MalcolmBut it feels a little bit like people are now trying to rewrite the story as to why they didn't support him when they had the chance to, 'cause now obviously we've got a, a dynamic there that isn't of value to anybody in our movement. But, wonderfully commented. Yeah, yeah, but I'm↗

6:21:32Speaker 13just, I'm just saying it's also-- It, it just seems like there's a lot of hypocrisy on all sides of this because Dan never mentioned Casey once until after the election over, so it's like-- So him, I feel like him saying, "Oh,↗

6:21:48@ehsanjoarderRest in peace.↗

6:21:50Speaker 10The difference between Nick and Dan is Nick is fed a lot of information from the Groypers all over the place, and Nick claims to be the leader of the America First movement. He has a platform in which he can boost and raise up lower people to prominent positions of power so that way we can take back our country. Dan isn't in the same position that Nick is in, so you're try-- you're comparing apples to oranges in that matter. It is the responsibility Ability of anyone who claims themselves to be the leader of some great movement to boost and raise up other people. Dan is only just beginning to get into this field, so you're comparing apples to oranges with that.↗

6:22:38Ian MalcolmAndy, did you wanna comment on that or, should we go to Philo?↗

6:22:44Speaker 10I think Andre is next.↗

6:22:46Ian MalcolmOh, let's go to Andre. Thank, thank you for that, Christopher. And then we'll go, well, actually, Christopher, I'll, I'll let you go through the hands, and the order of them, but let's go to Andre.↗

6:22:55Speaker 14Yeah, this, listen to this conversation, I really wanted to chime in when, Chief Trumper was here, he's like, "Oh, you know, we can't go outside because mommy's gonna take a picture and they're gonna send it my parent." Who cares? There's a risk with everything we're doing. I mean, it really doesn't matter if, you know, if you go out to this event and they're gonna, you know, put you on a fucking, on, on an article. There's a risk to the ship. Everyone has their utility, This is so childish. This, this is the problem I have with a lot of groupers. I, I like the utility of Nick, what Nick represents and what he's doing, but you get the groupers that just wanna sit back inside all day. It's like, we just wanna play Roblox and, you know, and talk about the Jews. That's nice, honey, but we have an actual movement that's building here. A lot of normies are waking up to the Jewish question, to Jewish supremacy. this is a very important time right now. This isn't, like↗

6:23:52Speaker 14I About this worldview. Today, you can just talk like a fucking moron and talk about the Jews. There's a lot of grifters doing it, but there's a need right now for strong-minded people, people with, you know, a large presence, a good voice, to talk about these things. And then from the grippers, it's just like, well, you know I'll just sit here and, and we're gonna watch Nick on Rumble, and that will be the thing, and it'll take another decade or two, but, you know, we'll get there. Fuck that. Dan's out here doing it right now. James Fishback is doing it out in Florida. And these are two different can-candidates, I think James is a lot more tame than Dan, of course. Dan's very aggressive, he's out there, and I think that's the energy you need. But even with that, you got two candidates right now that are pushing this You know, this reality to a lot of people, and that's good to see. But this like gay back and forth of-- I, I think the big problem with Mick right now and a lot of the groupers, they wanna be the center of attention when it comes to the Jewish question or when it comes to exposing the truth and, you know, gatekeeping the shit, and that's fucking gay, and we don't need that. And all this infighting, it does, it's to the benefit of the, of the Jewish establishment, it's to the benefit of those who are against us.↗

6:25:01Speaker 14Movement. If, if Nick is the face of the movement, what fucking movement is there? The movement of traffic onto a platform, the movement of, you know, likes on Twitter? who gives a fuck about that? Nobody wants that at the end of the day. People want actual change. People are getting very angry at what's going on. People want something more. They're looking for an alternative. And if the alternative is just gonna be online, then a lot of people are just gonna check the fuck out. And I think, I, I don't think we're gonna see a, a Shifting the conversation, people moving away from this reality, but people are still hungry for some change. People are very hungry for the, you know, someone to come out and do something. So, Dan's got my full support. I love what Dan's doing, but the Growers really need to realize that you, you just can't sit back and, and hog the ball. A lot of you guys didn't fucking play sports or, you know, weren't popular in school or didn't go outside enough, but you just can't fucking hog the ball all the time. You can't be the center↗

6:25:57Speaker 14There's a larger mission at hand. You aren't just the-- There's no two-man army, you know? There's supportive elements to everything. You've gotta support the mission at, at the end of the day. And I'm tired of seeing this like gay back and forth, even with Nick, with the, you know, we should vote Democrat in, in twenty twenty-six. But what does that do? I mean, really, what does it do? I think the best, the option would be not to vote, or to vote only for the candidates that are, you know, gonna support our interests. Why would we vote for Democrats that are gonna bring in more illegals? Why are we voting for people who are gonna already destroy, who are-- Why are we voting for another party that's on the same Jewish plantation? Why are we doing that? Doesn't make any sense. So I think it's interesting this conversation between people, it's, it's idiotic, and I think there's a↗

6:26:44Speaker 14Also, we're attacking people who are on our side, like watching Nick attack Dan. It's like, what the fuck are we doing here? Do you wanna win at the end of the day, or are we gonna continue to play in the shadows, can play, play in the cave? So, that's pretty much all I gotta say. You know, it's really, idiotic to watch all this shit go on.↗

6:27:01Speaker 11Really quickly, I have a question for you and for Truth Teller, and I'm hoping I can get you both to respond, and then I'll drop down.↗

6:27:13Speaker 11really quickly, it's very simple and straightforward. Has democracy failed? Does it work for the Jew? And you're a military guy, you had said you've served, you took an oath, right? Truth-teller, is an expert on the Epstein list, and I want you guys to both answer this. At what point do we say these people are illegally occupying these seats of government, these pedophiles, this Epstein list that we call politicians in DC? Aren't they legally bound to be put in Guantanamo Bay at this point? Why aren't our military officials saying, "We need Attack this government, that's a hostile government that's ruled by a foreign entity, that's filled with pedophiles. I mean, this isn't talking about something illegal, we're talking about oaths that military people take. are, are people in the military saying, "Dude, these people raped like fourteen, thirteen, and twelve-year-old girls and like eight kids and shit." When are they saying, "It's... I think I understand what this oath is to pro-pro-protect us from domestic enemies, right? When do we get someone saying, "We need to arrest the people↗

6:28:13Speaker 11And institute some sort of military rule for a bit, and enough with this democracy show that's just run by Jews. That's all.↗

6:28:21Speaker 14Well, I would say, you know, this is why it's important for people to get out on the ground and do shit. It's great to have this online conversation, but it's very important for people to get out and, like, hey, we can go out here and talk about these things in public. When it comes to the military, you know, you take an oath, and there's a lot of shit. I mean, there's a lot of things Bar people from doing dumb shit. I mean, it's the first thing you get told every Friday during your fucking, safety brief, don't do dumb shit, you know? Don't do dumb shit. And if anything, if you're gonna do dumb shit, don't get caught doing dumb shit. So a lot of people are going into the military now. From my perspective, I came in like, you know, fucking twenty twenty. I'm young, I'm twenty five. I came in like very, you know, in the past few years. I'm out now. But a lot of us came in because, you know, hey, we wanted a better, a better life, we wanted, you know, to go to college. I came out of tradition, that was my, like, I want to come in and con-ti-continue tradition of, of service.↗

6:29:08Speaker 14but I think a lot of people in the military, they're, they're fed up with what's going on, but we're not seeing a lot of a, a push in the From the common man, from the everyday person, we're not seeing this heat from the, from the, the, the common place for people to go out and do this. So I, I really don't know, I really can't speak too much on that. I think we will see that in the future, but this is why it's important for us to get on the ground. This is why it's important to back candidates like, Dan and James Fishback to really push the conversation, so we can have it more openly. Like I said, you're seeing people talk You couldn't do that five years ago.↗

6:29:45Ian MalcolmIf,↗

6:29:45Speaker 14if you would, I, I'm sure everyone in the space here, if you told people like, "Hey, we'll be at war with, you know, we're gonna go to war with Iran on the behalf of Israel," and also you can talk about the Jews You'd be like, "Get the↗

6:29:55Speaker 15The fuck out of here. No fucking way you'll be able to do that. But today you can do it, and that shows us that people are waking up, people are opposed to what's going on, the system is moving in their own direction, for their own interests against us. People are going to wake up and push back eventually, but we gotta keep the momentum going and, and, and have good, good examples of excellent people that can represent this world through this message against this evil that's in power.↗

6:30:19Speaker 16Thank you. And yeah, I'm sure you're familiar with how both Benito Mussolini and Adolf Hitler, after, took power, right? Oh, yeah. Took power, right? They, they took power, peacefully, legally, but in the same kind of light that you and I just discussed, where enough people kind of realized they were right, and they were gonna be thwarted. I know that Mussolini lost his first election, forty-nine thousand votes against one point five million votes for prime minister, but it got to the point where there were enough people that said, "Enough↗

6:30:48Speaker 16Have taken over our government, we have to take it back, and that's what happened, right? Exactly. That, that's because↗

6:30:54Speaker 17they had the Great Depression, my friend. You, you forgot that factor.↗

6:30:58Speaker 16Aren't you Jews gonna give us a Great Depression soon? You're working on it, right? I think,↗

6:31:01Speaker 17I, I think↗

6:31:02Ian Malcolmit comes, I think it's gonna start↗

6:31:03Speaker 17next year.↗

6:31:04Ian MalcolmHang on, I'm actually, I'm, I'm gonna be a little bit rude here and, and mute the room, which I normally don't do. I'm, I'm trying, big fan of the man's work. I hope everybody gives him a follow if you don't already. I don't know how that would be the case. but he's been talking about these issues for a long, long, long time. has been open, face forward, all those things. And so, Keith, I'd, I'd welcome your thoughts on kind of this whole dynamic. I know it's on the other side of the Atlantic from you, but, I would certainly welcome them. Be very curious for some of your takes on both the election,↗

6:31:44Ian Malcolmthe issue Of course, on your side of the ocean.↗

6:31:51Speaker 18Well, I, I actually just requested 'cause someone was tagging me about the Khazarian thing. I heard there was some people in the space saying Jews are Khazarians, which I think is funny, like, you get these spaces where everyone is like Jew aware and Jew critical but it just becomes the same. I mean, this is why people complain about low IQ antisemitism. It's like you just start believing anything that's a conspiracy because it's a conspiracy. Like the Khazarian thing is the best example. I mean, if anyone wants to read about this, I wrote-- well, I think it's the most comprehensive piece that's been done on the Khazarian theory.↗

6:32:25Speaker 18keithwoods dot pub is the URL. Go, go read it. But I mean, it's funny, this theory came from free Jews, right? It's Arthur Like and Shlomo Sand, and all three of them are left wing Jews. Kostler, in the introduction to his book on this, literally says, "Hey, wouldn't it be great if this is true? Because this would, eradicate the basis for antisemitism and saying Jews killed Christ." Shlomo Sand is like an internationalist, like open borders Jew that argues that race and ethnicity isn't real, and basically uses his theory to be like, "Yeah, you know, all these ethnicities, like Judaism, they're just like fake, made up identities." so that's like the three main contemporary people that argue it. And then you look at the sources for it, you know, this guy earlier was saying he's got like a PhD in history or something, this is like established history. Well, no, it's not. there's two sources for the Khazars supposedly converting to Judaism. they're both Jewish sources. One is called the Cambridge document that has all these like mythical elements about how these, Khazars like discovered these Hebrew tablets and were somehow able to- To read them in perfect Hebrew, and then there's this other letter that's supposedly from a Cisrion king, where he's talking about these incredible Jewish temples and centers of learning that are all over Cisrion, no archaeological evidence for any of it. he's talking about these incredible thinkers and philosophers and everything, Jews that are, that are in Cisrion, again, no evidence for any of it. contemporary scholars have looked at this, he has like no geographical awareness of the region that he's supposedly king of. All he's aware of is, Crimea, which is where Jews were visiting and trading,↗

6:34:09Speaker 18as merchants anyway. So I just wanted to come in and say like that, that theory is just completely bunk, and, you know, that's kind of the issue as well is, you know, it's not so much a low IQ antisemitism problem that people complain about so much as it's just like the ideological antisemitism, where, you know, people like Nick and someone said, "Oh, you know, no one was talking about this until Kanye at twenty-two." Well, that's not true, like,↗

6:34:35Speaker 18Twenty nineteen, there's old debates of Nick Fuentes debating people on Israel in like twenty seventeen, eighteen. but the bigger problem is like, yeah, you just have this slop now of people like Candace Owens that push this stuff how much of it is basically coming from like an anti-racist, anti-white, like third worldist POV, and the Jews are just like oppressor peoples, and you have, you know, cantons or these kinds of people saying that they're from Eastern Europe and they're like European colonists, or a lot of people that push the Kazarian thing is like to, to, you know, it's not the good Jews, right? It's not the good Jews of the Bible, or it's not the, the poor persecuted Jews that have suffered alongside other peoples. it's just this like ideology of Judaism. So yeah, I just wanted to come in and debunk that and say that's nonsense. Well, really, I think we- I was the one, I was the one↗

6:35:26Speaker 16having the debate with Adam about it, so was Truth. We actually both said, myself and Truth, correct me if I'm wrong, Truth, that it doesn't matter saying that the Khasarian or whatever types of Jews they are, Sephardic Jews, whether they're Ashkenazi Jews or Sephardic Jews, it's like, I said personally, it's like saying↗

6:35:48Speaker 16And, and the Khazarians did exist.↗

6:35:53Speaker 17I think I'm the only one in here who's been talking about this since two thousand↗

6:36:04Ian Malcolmand five, but I mean, okay, I'm a Jew, so it doesn't matter, right, guys? Bro, bro Bluntly about his views on this issue against Randy Fine, where if that, if, if Bilzerian is, is, awarded the primary ticket, I mean, him versus Randy Fine is kind of the, it's almost a caricature of either side of this situation. So I'm curious for your thoughts on whether or not that would be of benefit or of detriment to kind of what's been mounting here.↗

6:36:40Speaker 18I, I didn't catch all of that. I always have this problem with spaces, is why I'm not doing them as much, or like the audio is going in and out. But you're asking about Bolzani and Fine. you know, I honestly don't know enough about the details, because I do know there's another guy running in that district that was endorsed by the AZPAK group and seems to, you know, be quite ideologically anti-Zionist. So, I don't know, it doesn't really make-- it doesn't seem like, I mean, from the I mean, you know, Don is doing it to raise awareness, that's one thing, but then I, I don't really get why he chose that district if there's someone that's already anti-Zionist there. But I mean, i- in general, like this blow-up, I mean, I, I think like the constant Fed jacket and accusations are just like- Totally unproductive. I mean, that's, that's, that's honestly like the biggest issue with the American right that you don't see as much in Europe, is just like the constant Fed jacket and a Jew jacket and like even tonight listening in, it's like everything, like a guy showing up to Nick Fuentes' house to try and assassinate him, like when he was killed outside this house, and there's like police reports and everything, like that's fake, you know? Every, everything is some like fake 4D chess.↗

6:37:52Speaker 18like as far as I can see, that's what kind of kicked off this drama this time, is Dan came out and accusing it could be an FED, and, you know, it's just like this, you know, the main thing FEDs have done within the right in the US is to encourage bad jacketing, like that's come out in the, the Kornell Pro stuff, the documents of how like they infiltrated radical left groups in the past and so on, and, you know, Black Panthers and racist groups as they try and encourage environment↗

6:38:21Speaker 18so yeah, I, I think it's, you know, I think it's unproductive, you know, it's just kind of a cycle that repeats. But I don't know, I mean, I like, you know, and the one that Nick has, his movement, and he has like a core ideology around it. I don't know if this is really like a civil war or a breakaway, 'cause I don't really see any ideology, on the other side. I mean, like, you know, Jew name and or being Jew aware, I↗

6:38:50Speaker 18Competing voices in the space from like Adam Green to, Christian nationalists and so on. So I think you're constantly gonna get this kind of factionalism and infighting unless there's something more coherent to unite around That's so↗

6:39:04Ian Malcolmbeautifully stated, Keith. And, and just on it, I'm, I'm kind of curious 'cause I'm sure everybody in here has seen the video of, of you and Fuentes in what looks like a, a, a hybrid between a golf cart and, and maybe a, a, a smart car. I, I'm just kind of curious for your personal thoughts on Fuentes aside from some of these allegations and all this other stuff. Just kind of curious what it was like behind the scenes, spending some time with the man just as a, a person, 'cause obviously↗

6:39:33Speaker 18Yeah, well, I like Nick's a good friend, I like him, we get on great. it was, it was kind of funny, I mean, even there, like the, the paranoia, like, you know, I was just sitting in a cafe with Nick or something, and there was this gigantic conspiracy theory that, he was meeting with the Pope and Candace Owens in Rome and that the SPLC had like paid for this, or that he, he was doing it to escape the SPLC, like, there was literally like a trend in conspiracy theory on Twitter that↗

6:40:02Speaker 18Within an afternoon. so it is kind of funny the, the paranoia and conspiracy that, that follows, and the controversy that follows them everywhere. It's like Nicki Ranjan syndrome. But yeah, I mean, you know, like I said, it's a shame. I mean, 'cause I, you know, I like Jake, you know, I like what Dan has been doing, but, you know, it's, it's just a shame that this stuff always blows up,↗

6:40:27Speaker 18and like I said, I, I don't even think, I mean, You know, based on what I heard Ian Carroll said here today, like I, I think Dan probably started thinking Nick was a fad since like the Charlie Kirk stuff, and there was obviously a bit of a division, between different factions over that, and I think it's probably been bubbling up for a while,↗

6:40:48Speaker 18but yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's, it's a pity there is this constant fighting, especially in the American right.↗

6:40:54Speaker 19Keith, all I gotta say is you, you forgot the fries, man. You forgot the fries.↗

6:40:59Speaker 18Pretty good.↗

6:41:00Ian MalcolmAlright, so Keith, Keith, final one on, to, to go back to, something that was discussed, with regards to low IQ antisemitism around, not sure if you were here for it, but, but like you said, you brought up Charlie Kirk and Israel. I know for a lot of people, and, and I gotta be honest, myself included, when the suggestion was kinda made that maybe we're all just getting a little bit too manic immediately knee-jerk reaction to blame Israel for everything, which is a reasonable thing to,↗

6:41:29Ian Malcolmbut given kind of the preponderance of, of, data or the, the post Turning Point USA kind of pivot to support the war with Iran that Kirk was against, I'm, I'm just kind of curious for your thoughts. Do you think it's kind of reasonable to look at Israel and say, "Well, they certainly at least benefited from Charlie Kirk in some kind of prevailing win scenario, and as a result, might have had a hand in something like that?"↗

6:41:53Speaker 19He's learned his lesson not to go against Nick, so I doubt you're gonna get anything different.↗

6:41:58Speaker 18I don't know who came in at the end there, but again, I'm getting like, honestly, I'm getting like thirty percent of these questions with how much you're cutting out, but I think you asked, you asked about Charlie Kirk and Todd Robinson. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't think there's good evidence Israel was involved. I mean, did they-- Was Charlie Kirk becoming more critical? I mean, maybe, but he'd been more critical the year before, and then, you know, Trump struck Iran, and he immediately pivoted back to complete support for that. So I, I think if he was around right now, he'd be cheering on, Trump's actions on Iran, to be honest.↗

6:42:31Speaker 20Bro, I↗

6:42:33Speaker 18don't think Charlie Kirk has the evidence that we can argue about, and again, it's My own phone, so it, you know, it's... I don't wanna look like I'm like dodging a debate or something, but I mean, I just think, I think when the trial comes up, there's gonna be DNA evidence and there's a lot of evidence, related to Tyler Robertson that we haven't seen yet, and I think it's, you know, I think a lot of these conspiracies have already been debunked about the private plane and so on, the Egyptian planes,↗

6:43:00Speaker 18and I think there's gonna be like irrefutable forensic evidence when the trial comes↗

6:43:05Ian MalcolmNo, that's, that's fair. And, and Keith, as a question on, not related to that at all. so on nationalism, I know that you certainly in some of the various European countries have seen just the influx of migrants, similar to the United States, but in many ways even worse, I think, because the culture is so obviously defined. Especially you look at Ireland, you look at Scotland, you look at even the English, right? There, there's a very clear culture, so when you just pour in migrants, we see all the dumpster fire that it↗

6:43:34Ian MalcolmFor just your thoughts at a very, very high level, and I, I ask this 'cause I know you wrote the book specifically on this subject, right? For your vision of maybe not the steps that we would take to get to utopia, but what do you think is realistically possible within-- I don't wanna say your lifetime, but let's call it the, the next generation, right? The next fifteen, twenty years, i-in an idealized Keith Wood scenario, what do you think the world looks like at the end of that fifteen-year window, presuming that the political winds kind of went the↗

6:44:07Speaker 18You know, I'm gonna just have to drop 'cause I'm getting barely any of these questions. I'll, I'll just have to drop and rejoin, but, what I would like in fifteen, twenty years, loads and loads of deportations and remigration, it's like the, the main thing, take the Jewish lobby out of power, dispossess, any ethnic minority and lobbies. give people a sense of strong national racial identity, do a lot of deportations, begin to remigrate people. That would be my ideal scenario. I'm gonna duck now because if someone responds, I'm barely picking up what they're saying, and I don't wanna like interrupt people or sound like I'm not answering them, so I'll duck and rejoin. But yeah, thanks for having me on.↗

6:44:47Ian MalcolmNo, of course. And, and, sincerely, there, there's few people on this application that I would use the word humble to have you in here, but, Utopia you described. Alright, thanks, man. So that, that was a, and I just wanna thank everybody. I wanna thank Truth Teller and, and Mr. Christopher Woods for, for thinking to set this space up, for their willingness to be in here, for all of the, the panelists that have been through the space, for all of you, the listeners. A massive shout out to some of the unbelievable guests, including Keith Woods. I, when I initially put a post saying, about this with a little flyer saying, with Truth Teller and Christopher Woods, who in and of themselves are incredible guests, for, for me to be able to be blessed to speak with. but I, I mentioned that we'd have some others because I had had hints that we might get a couple voices in here. But, but to think that we had Leonarda Joni, we had Dan Bilzerian, we had Jake Shields, to now have Keith Woods, I, I'm just, I'm so humbled, at the opportunity. So I wanna give credit actually to Elon Musk, and 'cause I know Keith mentioned the challenges with↗

6:45:57Ian MalcolmBut whether it was David Neeche, the debates that took place with Lucas Gage, all these other individuals, at the end of the day, we need to be able to band together, right? Because to Keith's comments there on nationalism, we need strong senses of nationalism. That is one thousand percent correct. But in a way, it also at a, a microcosm, we know from the Epstein letters, the idea that, it is Jew versus the Goy, that was from one of those emails, right? And that there is a sense of this supremacist system That views itself against all of us, and so the same way as Keith defined that the Irish and the Scottish, they all need nationalism for their people and their beautiful culture, so do we need to unify against this system that is essentially responsible for the derooting and the deracinating of all of those things that Keith just suggested would be the more idealized tomorrow. Right? The reason we don't have that sense of self, that sense of nation, that sense of culture is because this system is just essentially taking all of that away from us. And so like he said, he, he talked about Jewish power when he said that, it is fundamentally in opposition to that very better tomorrow that a lot of us would envision. I also, speaking of wonderful guests, I wanna give a big shout out to one of the men that I think runs the absolute best, spaces on this entire platform. Certainly in the top five with my, my good friend, Mr. Truth Teller, is, Mr. Diligent Dennison, absolute pleasure to have you. And Diligent, you were mentioned many, many, many times earlier In particular, by David Niche about the wonderful work that you did with the Charlie Kirk investigation, which that entire kind of story arc came up because people at one point were suggesting that it was ridiculous to say that there might be any ties to the usual suspects that we talk about. And I know that diligent is actually-- and I gotta give a lot of credit to any person, and I, and I'll say to Joe Asantos in case he happens to hear this, anybody that's able to say, "I think that Ian Malcolm is the crazy..." It's the Jews in Israel guy, but then be willing to say, "I mean, you're not wrong about X, Y, or Z." I think that takes a lot, and I try to do the exact same with my worldview to adjust them, and I always try to call out those people that I learn from, and I learn from diligent Denison on how to better run spaces, and we've tried, I promise to everybody listening, we've tried to do our best to make sure that the panel is equally represented by neutral parties, parties that have a bias for Dan, those that have a bias↗

6:48:27Ian MalcolmThroughout the entirety of the space, but we certainly have tried. but again, I wanna give a big shout out to everybody, just in case I don't remember to do so later. There's been so many wonderful guests, and, I, I come full circle back to Keith Woods, who is just speaking, because I'm just humbled to have him in here. I think he's a wonderful, wonderful human being and a champion for our cause, that is, that is taking these things in his homeland. and so with that being said, Christopher, can you remember↗

6:48:55Speaker 17I↗

6:48:55Ian Malcolmthink it was me.↗

6:48:58Ian MalcolmChristopher Canarias? And if not, we will go to, to Gary while we try to get that reset.↗

6:49:05Speaker 21Was it, Falu? I think you were gonna call him next. I think it, it was me. And I, let's go Falu, perfect. I can go really quick, 'cause I, I apologize, I preemptively put a picture up next to Truths, so feel free to take it down. I don't like to ever put stuff in these bigger spaces. I know how you guys are↗

6:49:24Speaker 21Space again for, in truth, this is a too much brain power on a mom day Sunday. My, my Sunday's just gone by in a blink of an eye now. But that picture that, or the video that Truth put up, it's been a while since we talked about it, but that's when I raised my hand. That video he got was from somebody from Rhyamada, I believe. And that guy who, and I, I wish I could credit, I, and I can't remember his name, he went there and he got that video off somebody's cell phone because↗

6:49:53Speaker 21What that, a very close rendition or exactly what that mic looks like under Charlie Kirk's shirt. And I literally have one of them. It's a condenser, it's a condenser mic. It isn't a lapel mic. It's different than a lapel mic. It's very, very, straightforward and meant to get sound from the direction. It's a, you know, directional mic. But every time that is brought up, whether it's Tim Pool or something else, they are completely shut down. He wouldn't let Ryan talk about it, and there's been multiple podcasts I've seen other people try to bring it up, and they get shut down every time they talk about the T-shirt. That, and that picture has, and that video is very suppressed. So I'm, I'm glad you put that up because I think that when you start to look at all the stuff on that, that is one thing that nobody ever wants to talk about, and when you get kicked off platforms So if usually that means something. That's all I wanted to share, especially 'cause I had it sitting in my room when Truth brought that video up. And I appreciate your guys' time.↗

6:50:53Ian MalcolmNo, Falu, and I appreciate you sharing that, I'm sorry, Clips?↗

6:50:57Speaker 19Can I just add something real quick to that? O-of course. Thank you. the one thing that I found really suspicious too is like the whole crime scene thing. Like, they brought in a whole construction crew the day, like, the day after, yeah. Right, the next day. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, like you don't just clean up a fucking crime scene of that mass proportion. Like, that never has happened ever in US history, ever. Except when they, washed off the↗

6:51:21Speaker 21roof that, you know, the assassin from Trump was on, you know,↗

6:51:25Speaker 19that's about the same. You know, and Don't point that out more about that. And like, I saw a video about like, oh, the reason why maybe they brought the crime, the crime, crime scene cleanup crew in was because apparently some of the, the plastics from like the, whatever blew up in his shirt was like embedded in the concrete, so like, there was like a backlash between that and everything, and it's just like, there's just so much shit, and then everybody's just pulling the conspiracy theory card and all this, but like, the fact of the matter is, is that that crime scene was cleaned up faster than any Ever seen, you know, you--↗

6:52:00Speaker 21That's an interesting point because somebody came, we were doing a space with Ryan about it, 'cause he had just visited and he had, that's when he had measured like the three seconds, you know, from the running that it couldn't have been that guy for the timeframe. I didn't think about it, but somebody came in when they discussed that, that video of the puff of smoke, and they gave the names of what used in explosives would be, but- I, I also heard that, wasn't it like months prior where you'd have to set up, like, the construction crew to come out and change that? Like, like↗

6:52:31Speaker 19they just did, they did it too fast. Listen, I, I work in construction. Yeah. They brought that crew in so fast, they destroyed all the concrete in that area, they got rid of the grass, everything, and they poured that concrete the day of.↗

6:52:44Speaker 21That is correct. Yeah. And, and the rep plan, you have to plan all this stuff, and you can't just bring concrete in on the↗

6:52:49Speaker 19day of A lot of things that come into place with these things. And then on top of it, it wasn't some huge construction company or anything like that, it was a little fucking van that pulled up, and these guys are already pouring concrete, like right, right at the eye of the menorah,↗

6:53:05Speaker 21if you guys haven't seen that too, 'cause that's what those steps are. Yeah, that's another↗

6:53:08Speaker 19thing, he was in the middle of a menorah and blah, blah, you know? But then again, that's like another conspiracy theory, whatever, blah, blah, blah. But it's↗

6:53:23Speaker 20Bro, the biggest red flag was Netanyahu coming out the next day. That day actually- Yeah,↗

6:53:27Speaker 19yeah, that too, that too, yeah. He was- We were just talking about↗

6:53:29Speaker 20that before with Lucas, and like, I'm surprised no one mentioned it. Like Netanyahu comes out, he's like, "No one blamed Israel." Yeah.↗

6:53:34Speaker 19He's like, "No one blamed Israel." They never even brought up that, and all of a sudden he's the first person, "Oh, I didn't not do this." He had a letter wrote out already- Yeah, he↗

6:53:42Speaker 20posted a post↗

6:53:49Speaker 19on X↗

6:53:51Ian MalcolmWell, and, and isn't it interesting? So, so we found, middle ground. It seems like everybody is on the same page, some of which have the frog, some don't. So we're, so we're perhaps, perhaps we're unifying folks, which would be a good thing. a-and since we have him here, 'cause I don't know his time, line, but diligent, I mean, I, I, I feel like you dove into the subject more than just about anybody between yourself and Ryan Mata. You guys did more homework on this subject↗

6:54:21Ian MalcolmSome of your thoughts on it at, at fifty thousand feet and after all the work, that you did, who you think might have possibly been behind it, if you have any ideas?↗

6:54:31Speaker 22I think it was, I think the main culprit is our own government, but definitely, definitely in, in Congress with, with foreign governments. I think the, the Joe, the, the, the Joe Kent piece is interesting. To, to be fair, I don't trust anybody that was former government. I don't think there is such a thing. so, but the, the foreign, the foreign nexus, you know, I feel like that signals that there was probably some,↗

6:55:06Speaker 22some involvement at least with, like, on the intelligence-wise, maybe with Israel or, any of the Five Eyes countries. it was definitely for the benefit of domestic and foreign policy, Israel especially, given the campaign Campaign that we see Trump is on now, you know, they paid-- Charlie Kirk was the biggest road, roadblock to their foreign policy agenda, if you think about it, Iran, Venezuela, Cuba, Colombia is gonna be on the chopping block next. We saw that they sent Nick, Shirley to Cuba.↗

6:55:39Speaker 22to go propagan-- to create a propaganda video to tell us how bad the Cubans have it under communism, and this is why we need to go liberate them. It's the same exact playbook they did with Iran before they started a war with Iran. Well, what do you know? I get to looking at it, all of these countries are opposed to Israel, all of them, right? We haven't had any problem as Americans with these countries in a long time. We've embargoed them, we've sanctioned them to shit, but they weren't attacking us. They were pretty much dying off slowly, right? So what is the problem here? Well, policy is the problem here. They have a problem with Israel and Gaza, right? And they won't recognize Israel as a state, and these are, these are United Nation members, these are voting members of the United Nation in the Foreign, Foreign Council. And so, I, I just, I think it's funny that all of these foreign policy actions by the Trump administration benefit one single country, and Charlie Kirk was standing in their way, right? I, the fact that he said two weeks before he died that if he left the pro-Israel cause, they were gonna kill him, and then the day before, or two, two days before he- Got shot, he said he was, he was leaving the pro-Israel cause. Two days later, he's dead.↗

6:57:02Speaker 22you have to be an idiot to not recognize the pattern here. I'm not saying Israel killed him, but it definitely benefited them. It's obvious that our intelligence agencies, and even I dare say the executive branch, is completely beholden to Israel's foreign pol-- foreign policy for some reason. I'm not gonna not say it anymore. I actually don't care if Israel wants to Be the supreme ruler of its region over there, whatever. Just leave me out of it, leave my country out of it. Don't flatten my country's economy for the benefit of your country. You're not going to stomp on our corpse to uphold your own, own hegemony, your own empire. I'm not good with that. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna sit here and be quiet about it. I don't care if it gets me destroyed or canceled or whatever they've tried a lot of times since Epstein. And you'll just see, and I, I'm sorry, I, I stole your Jumbotron, but there's a guy that came out attacking me over Epstein last summer. I'd never interacted with him before. He has been upheld by the administration and by all of the ConInk shills, and then today he comes out and he's like, "I'm all about Israel, not America," then saying one thing about America, but you can tell he's pretty much a foreign agent. These are a bunch of foreign agents posing as MAGA, right? I know my audience came in here with me. These people- People aren't MAGA. Make America Great Again isn't about Israel, okay? It's not about Iran. I'm not here to make Iran great, I'm not here to make Israel great, I'm not here to make Cuba great, I'm not here to make Venezuela great or Colombia. We're here to make America great. Our country is in decline, and if we don't realize what's happening here, that we've been hoodwinked, we'll never have a chance to escape it. The AI, the weapons, all of it, the economy- They're immobilizing us. We can't travel on airplanes right now, hardly. That's immobilization, right? If we were, if I was a strategic military commander and I saw what was happening to our country right now, and I was actually beholden to our country, I would be very alarmed at what I'm seeing here. When you can no longer travel freely in your country, you're immobilized. The reasons why they do that is to prevent you from being able to organize and- And resist something that you don't want to happen. that's what I see. So, anyways, yeah, Charlie Kirk, I feel like is the first domino. Well, actually, I would actually say the Iran missile strike in last July was the first domino. Charlie Kirk was the big second domino, and, and now we hear, see here the foreign policy that is, waylaid a-as a result.↗

6:59:52Speaker 19Can I kind of pick? You forgot Epstein.↗

6:59:54Speaker 22Just think if-↗

6:59:55Speaker 23Someone was threatened and they said that on social media, like if my neighbor threatened that they were gonna kill me, and I posted that on social media, like I feel afraid, and I got killed the next day. Wouldn't my neighbor be questioned by the police? I mean, just normal, common sense, right?↗

7:00:10Speaker 24I just wanna add to Diljan, also, I respect your work, I've been kinda following it a bit, and I respect your journalism, your investigative work, all that stuff. the one thing I will say is, is that Charlie Kirk was a speed bump for Israel. He was in Trump's ear, he was telling Trump left and right, "Don't go to war with Iran, it's not in your best interest." And as soon as he kept telling them that, they got him out of Trump's ear, and as soon as they got him out of Trump's ear, the first Started listening to Bibi Netanyahu, and I just posted something kinda in the chat too, 'cause I, I am a, I am a groypur. I respect the movement that Nick has created and stuff like that. There are some things that I disagree with, and we're allowed to do that, right? I, and, you know, I don't like this negative connotation that all these groypurs are just basement dwelling losers and da da da. No, there's a lot of us that are actually-- Yeah, thank you. I don't, I don't like that, Actually hardworking Americans, and we do care about our country.↗

7:01:14Speaker 24but what I will say is, is that Nick made a very good point, and it's always like in his little intros and stuff to his show about the whole shit with, you know, in twenty twenty, exposing Trump for basically making a deal, like everyone kept saying Russian collusion, Russian collusion. No, it wasn't Russian collusion. He made a deal with Iran, or I mean, he made a deal with Israel. It's clear as, it's clear as day.↗

7:01:36Speaker 25Is your, is your identity as a Groyp No. Right? Like, you don't-- The, here's, here's why I don't subscribe to group ideology. One, I believe in, I believe in individual accountability. This is why Ian and I separate on, it's the Jews thing, right? Like, I'm, I'm willing to hold, a government responsible. I'm willing to acknowledge, acknowledge, you know, numbers, hits that-- Well, I don't wanna bring them up here, but IQ, like, statistics don't lie, right? Statistics don't lie, I'll just↗

7:02:11Speaker 25Yeah, yeah, statistics don't lie.↗

7:02:15Speaker 25about the-- but when you subscribe to a group ideology or take a label as a groypur or whatever, you bring on all the negative connotations that go along with that, right? I understand↗

7:02:26Speaker 24that. I understand that, but that's why there's spaces like this where we can kind of get to know each other and pick each other's brains, because you hear the word groypur and you immediately have this label, that's what this person's ideology is, and this, that, and the third. And like, you could be a gro Have like things you disagree with, like, and that's what I don't understand, like, there's Republicans that have disagreements with other Republican ideas, you know what I mean? There's Democrats that have disagreements with other- I've never, Nick,↗

7:02:51Speaker 25Nick blocked me this last, this last winter, and I've never interacted with him ever, not once, because I was critical of his policy when he was out here kind of pushing, supporting the government narrative when it came to Charlie Kirk, right? Yeah, diligent, diligent, you have a, diligent, you have a pretty- One second,↗

7:03:10Speaker 26one second. You have a pretty big show. You said you agree to disagree with, Ian on some things. I'm wondering, are those like the statistics about domestic Jews that might not be pro-Israel that support like the feminist movement historically or communism? How fifty out of the fifty-one Jews arrested, during the, you know, purges by, you know, all the different various people during the communist insurgents into America were Jews. I think it was like what, nine out of ten of them were Jews? What is it about Ian's assessment of the Jewish question that you don't agree with? I'm curious to hear that. it's just the, the↗

7:03:44Speaker 25very, my principle of believing in individual accountability.↗

7:03:48Speaker 26your principle is just, so the facts don't matter, you just have a principle, got↗

7:03:55Ian Malcolmit? Well, no, hang↗

7:04:08Ian MalcolmThings based on more information, and he's certainly done so, and so I have to give him an immense amount of credit. And even if he didn't agree with me, which he didn't in the not so distant past, he still let me come up into his conversations and share my take, which I have to also give that, kudos and appreciation, right? but it is, it's totally reasonable, and I think this is where the low IQ antisemitism comes in, because there's lots of people that might look at the data that I've tried to com- to provide He's taken a very clear cut stance. This has nothing to do with hating everybody or anybody that is of anything. It's not based on race, not based on gender, not based on religion. He even↗

7:04:46Speaker 24stated that too. He's stated that numerous times. It's not just the Jews, it's the fact-- He doesn't hate the Jews, he hates the fact that our country is being fucking taken. Who,↗

7:04:56Speaker 26who, who is the he? He's talking about Nick again. Everyone keeps talking about Nick and Dan. Gotcha. so, so Truth Ian and Truth, yeah, I know, I'm getting a little fucking sick of it. Truth Ian and myself have been doing spaces for probably two years now, and I know, I've lost three accounts. I'm a little bit more aggressive, as, as any of you who know me know that I'm very aggressive. I lose my accounts pretty easily. So our stance has always been, and I remember talking about this with Sam Parker two years ago with you guys on stage with↗

7:05:26Speaker 26Our stance has always been that Jews are duplicitous, there's two sides to them, they are two sides to the same shekel. So once you just say, "There's only this Zionist element, and it's the Likud government, and it's just the Jews in Israel," you just disregard fifty percent, or, you know, that's a rough estimate, you disregard all these communist Jews that have subverted and genocided our people for the past three hundred, four hundred years, maybe even further back, and have had the means And the fucking ideology, it's written in their Talmud to do so for two thousand plus years, and if you count the, the, Old Testament, the ta- the Tanakh or whatever they call it, it's been three thousand years that these people have been trying to murder us. But, but Kargan, it's worth,↗

7:06:11Ian Malcolmit's worth keeping in mind, look, there, there's, and there's maybe a slogan that I think is somewhat reasonable to subscribe to, which is that it isn't all Jews, first and foremost. There are all the Jews that are just Some ethnicity, and they-- You wanna know what the difference is? I'm from↗

7:06:29Speaker 26New York City. I'm, I'm from New York City. I grew up outside of New York City, twenty-five minutes north of fucking Bronx Stadium. I'm telling you right now, if I didn't have Jewish friends, I'd be a weirdo because I grew up with all Jews, Italians, and Irish people. That's the only people I grew up with. So a third of the people I grew up with were Jewish. I have Jewish friends. Guess what? Their parents weren't religious, or↗

7:06:52Speaker 26they're half Just like the people that Adolf Hitler excused, they are actually good American people because they are-- there's nothing about them that's actually Jewish other than their ethnicity, and they've gone out of their way with their parents to make themselves less Jewish. And I think that's something that we should all fucking say, "Hey, you know what? You get a pass." Dave Smith, Bobby Fischer, they get a fucking pass, right? They've earned it. I understand that, but we still have to- Also, look at this other-- and you will agree with me on this, look at this other element of communist Judaism. Communist Judaism and these communist left-wing Jews don't get a fucking pass because they're not anti-Palestine and pro-Zionist. That's not how it goes. These are the same people behind the Bolshevik Revolution, the same people that have been genociding white people for hundreds of years, the same people behind the Holocaust, more. We don't give them a fucking pass because right now, you know that the Palestinian genocide is What's trending. By the way, they're the same people genociding men in Ukraine now.↗

7:07:56Speaker 27Same people who helped, start the CCP as well. That,↗

7:08:00Ian Malcolmthat, that actually Max, Max Prime, coming from the, the upper deck, so that, didn't see that one coming. but that is also, yeah, that's correct. Mao's, Mao's Jews, the CCP. The common turn we've been, Israel Epstein. Well, Is-- Yeah, Israel, very, very well done. And look, the, the other Was not just a, let's, let's say, an extension of the communists in China. The commoners were being started all across Europe. They were essentially trying to subvert the entirety of nationalism across all of Europe, and that's largely what led to the rise of some certain painter guy that we sometimes talk about, right? But I, I do wanna be very specific about this, and I think David Nye maybe talks about it better than anybody. There, the, the idea of the divine spark, right?↗

7:08:46Ian MalcolmThere, there's, there's a lot of duds in the world. There There's a lot of people that meet all those criteria from all walks of life, all religions, all races, et cetera, right? And so it's not all Jews. Obviously, there's lots of people that are just trying to get on with their life and love their family. What you do note is that when you look at these power structures that are pushing all of these vile aspects of modernity, and it doesn't matter if you're talking about pornography or the media or the technology that we're using right now that clearly has a bias that basically says you're not allowed to note the patterns Right? When you look at the top of almost all of these, even the one that we're on right now with Nikita Bier, who the whole world was attacking just two or three weeks ago, happened to come from a certain set of people, right? And for what it's worth, Nikita Bier, in some ways, I can actually empathize with, because let's presume that Nikita Bier is actually a really good guy who's just a computer coder, right? Nonetheless, he's got the prevailing winds of all the technocrats that if he doesn't do what they want him to↗

7:09:50Ian MalcolmBe sold by ByteDance and the Chinese company to none other, of course, than Larry Ellison and, Andreas and Horowitz, right? And it's the same set of interests that own all the other technologies, and so again Who does TikTok get sold to? Why, why is it that I could have predicted with almost a hundred percent confidence that I knew who was going to be able to buy it? Right? That is really unusual. And so again, it's not every single Jew obviously, but when you look at the power structures, why is there almost always a Jew and what their intent is, the, the, whether it's religious, cultural, whether it's literally that they're just the highest IQ people in the room, which I don't subscribe to that thesis at all, right? But regardless of what the reason is The thing that I know with certainty is that what is is, and when people come in and they say it's not the case, well, that's unreasonable. And so diligent and I might have disagreements on why we are where we are, but I gotta give him credit because just like with Joe Santes, who once upon a time said that I was basically an antisemite for saying the Jews controlled Hollywood, Joe would come into this room right now and say, "I mean, guys, the Jews control the..." Have I ever called you an antisemite? No, you haven't. diligent You would, you would brace your audience and you'd basically say, "Okay, guys, Ian's gonna talk about how it probably isn't real." And so I gotta give you a lot of credit for that and a lot of love, my friend.↗

7:11:14Speaker 25I, I have, I'm, I'm fairly moderate, right? Like, and, and my audience follows me because I have a balanced approach when I talk about very high controversial issues, right? Prominent controversial issues, they expect for me to have a balanced approach. is there a higher inclination for Jewish people to be in banks? Yes. Right? I had a long conversation with a,↗

7:11:40Speaker 25a, a Jewish person, both ethnic and Orthodox, 'cause I didn't understand why I was catching so many strays from Jewish and Zionist account last summer out of nowhere. Never spoke about anything about Israel, never spoke about Jewish people at all, and I start going viral on Epstein, and all of a sudden I start, "This guy up in the jumbotron's a perfect example of one of the accounts that started attacking me for covering Epstein." I didn't understand why. And then I, I found out about Ehud Barak's involvement with Epstein and how closely tied in with our intelligence and Israel's government Epstein was. That's why I was catching strays. I wasn't blaming Israel, but the fact of the matter is, is that the evidence was leading me there, right, to some involvement with Israel's government or at least former government, and so they were coming after me. Right? And, and so, they're creating more-- now I'm looking at them a lot more critically. Now I'm looking at the Zionist movement more critically, right? I'm like, why are these accounts coming after me when I'm clearly↗

7:12:44Speaker 25you are creating the animosity that you claim to hate, right? I'm not, I, I still don't have any animosity towards them, but I'm surely when audience members or listeners or followers or viewers see that people who are trying to be objective are being attacked while they're trying to be objective, while they're making sure that they're not,↗

7:13:07Speaker 25subscribing to just like hateful rhetoric or whatever, right? Or, or even, or even grouping people together, it's a very bad look for your side, right? That's a very bad look. You're creating the animosity that you claim to, to be concerned about. And so, I, I'm, I'm gonna maintain my balanced approach, my appro- I find, I find my approach to be perfectly fine. I don't like, being Led to the water, I like to find my own way there through evidence, and here we are, you know? I'm definitely being more critical about our foreign policy as it pertains to Israel than I have ever been, but the evidence has led me to that point, right? I would argue that when you try to tell me that I don't talk about the Jews enough, you are going to, you're losing the fight, right? 'Cause you're pushing moderates away from the conversation. We are the ones that you- You want to have the conversation with, if you want to have a broader conversation and not just be in an echo chamber, having a conversation with the moderates is where it's at. I under- Do you agree, Ian?↗

7:14:15Ian MalcolmI, I, I couldn't agree with you more, which is why I, I love that I've been armed, kind of a band of brothers like with, Truth Teller, who I think of as, Batman. I've been his little Robin from time to time, although I, I like the comparison more that Truth Teller is like Batman because he's very brash and doesn't really take any prisoners, and I, I try to be the Clark Kent rendition, who's a little, a little bit more studious. You guys↗

7:14:41Speaker 25are the good cop, bad cop↗

7:14:44Ian MalcolmAnd I don't like Robin just 'cause I, I don't like the green and the red or whatever that color combo. But in all seriousness, with, with Truth Teller, who obviously has-- He, he's the bad cop, I try to be the good cop, and then David Nixey walks in, and he's the, the, the historian professor who's gonna lecture everybody with a-- I, I, I picture him with either like cognac or maybe like a little pipe, and, and maybe he's dressed-- I, David, for what it's worth, I Because you're so warm and impossible for anybody to find abrasive, and yet you come in with just these truth bombs aimed at loving everybody and making the world a better place. And so diligent, I say that because whether it's the three of us or Mays or any of these other voices, or if it's Christopher Woods, who's up here as the co-host and diligent, not sure if you're familiar, but you've certainly seen him in the videos where he was in city council basically saying, "Here's a long list of all the Jews involved in COVID." And regardless of the delivery mechanism, what To do is to create a pipeline, right? So maybe it goes from Fox News to Mark Levin, I wanna vomit saying the name, to Ben Shapiro, to Tucker Carlson. People go from Tucker to Candace, they go from Candace to you, they go from you, and maybe, you know, David's in there, and then the next thing they know, they find themselves in a room like this that speaks a little bit more freely. We don't win by censoring ourselves into an echo chamber, right? They wanna put us in those, and so instead, we gotta break out by being↗

7:16:14Ian MalcolmTo different people at all sorts of different phases in this awareness.↗

7:16:19Speaker 24Another thing I'd like to add to Ian is that like, one thing I noticed is that once every-- once like the, all that stuff calmed down a little bit with Nick, like with the whole like Hitler thing and the whole anti-Semitism messaging and all that stuff, is that like he ac-- people started to actually get his message a little bit more, and as soon as that started to happen It's like all of a sudden, all of this started to happen. You know,↗

7:16:44Speaker 24the, the-- I feel like this whole Dan Bilzerian and him beef kind of stemmed from as soon as he started to mention about wanting to vote Democrat in the midterms. It's like as soon as that happened, as it should, as it should. No, but hear me out though, as soon as that happened, it's like everyone started to freak out and panic. And the only reason why-- 'cause like when I first heard that too, it really kind of took me off guard. I↗

7:17:09Speaker 24explains it, and he explains it very well, that like by doing that, you throw a wrench into the system, right? And if you can get some Democrats into, like, the, the House, it makes it harder for Trump's administration because, you know, they want JD Vance, they want Marco Rubio, that's who they want, those are their two people that they want to win. And by doing so, if you have some of the Democrats in the House, 'cause I, I forgot the percentage of how many Democrats have to, whatever, to stop a Republican vote or whatever, I don't fucking know, but he explains all that pretty well. And once I kind of picked up on that, I was like, okay, that kind of makes sense. But everyone just heard that and they just took that, ran with it, and just like caused a scene. And then all of a sudden, boom, these guys are all off doing their own thing with the,↗

7:18:00Speaker 24you know, Understand where they were coming from. I'm sure they were coming from a good place of doing it, but the fact of the matter is, this man's literally fought these people for years. He's been canceled, he's been silenced, everything under the sun with him, and then all of a sudden now these people are trying to like take the movement from underneath him when most of those people weren't even voicing- It's not↗

7:18:24Speaker 27his movement. It's just like never was, bro. And, and never was his movement.↗

7:18:29Speaker 25It's just,↗

7:18:30Speaker 24when, when I say- It's just like↗

7:18:31Speaker 25MAGA and Trump, it's like↗

7:18:32Speaker 24the America First- There, there was a, there was a,↗

7:18:34Speaker 25a movement of- Obviously everybody- A grassroots movement of American citizens. Like, MAGA aren't Republicans. Right? These are people who care about, about issues important to them that they're like all Never Trumpers. They're, that are not about party politics. I would argue that if there's a movement behind Nick Fuentes, it's not belonging to Nick Fuentes, it's a movement of people who care about the same things outside of Nick Fuentes. If he betrays the principles of that movement, they shouldn't follow him down that path. I'm not saying that he is, but if he is They should definitely not follow him down that path just because he's going that route.↗

7:19:18Speaker 27The worst Republican is always better than the best Democrat. That's the philosophy, oh, yes it is, oh, yes it is. Let, let's, let's, Ian, can we talk a little bit about Fontaine and the way I actually connect the dots and, and to why, Dan Buzasarian is a far superior le-leader for the alt-right. Let's start with this. you are aware of what the G- DOJ did to the Southern Poverty Law Center, correct Urban Property Law Center was caught red-handed, funding the KKK, and they also funded, since two thousand and fourteen, but the key member that they funded was a group called Unite the Right, and Unite the Right was the main funder for a movement in two thousand and seventeen called Charlottesville And who became a star at Charlottesville, Nick Faltaez. Based off those assessments, it, it, it could be possible that the Southern Poverty Law Center was the one who was funding Nick Faltaez from the very beginning. Now, I'm not saying take my word for it, I'm just saying dig, guys, dig. I can tell you this, I hang in all the same circles that Dan Vazarian and Nick Faltaez hangs, I know everybody they know, and I know that- Dan Bazerian is a straight up, I'm gonna tell you what the fuck I think, no bullshit type of guy. I can't say the same thing about Nick. Obviously, I'm the Jew in the room, you guys can say whatever you want about me, and that's fine, but it's just very, very, a lot of interesting circumstances around Nick Faltares, and then he was telling people about January sixth, go, go, he doesn't get fucking arrested. It's very, very obvious this guy has been a plant for a long time, and now you're seeing True Colors, where he's trying to tell you to vote for a Jewish woman who happens to be a communist in Ohio. Enough is enough, he's been exposed. You need to put all your support besides Dan. And let me tell you something, I don't agree with Dan saying he wants to go to Israel and kill Israelis. That, that's, that's really far from me. But if you look at them as people, them, what they've done in their life, Dan Bazerian's a man, and Nick Fuentes, or Nicky, like I like to call him Is a boy. I'll rest there.↗

7:21:35Speaker 24Well, I kind of, and I'll add to that a little bit as well. I feel like Dan is kind of like taking that step up for the people, and he's, he's only able to do that because of how much money he has. Like, to sit there and go and run against these people, you have to have thousands and thousands of dollars, or at least back up from, you know, support from other groups and stuff like that. Not an average American can just go and do that,↗

7:22:00Speaker 24you know what I mean? You're right, Also, he's got the following where, with the Twitter and Instagram, I feel like a lot of his following is younger crowds, so he does have that advantage in that case. But like, the messaging he's delivering to, though, isn't gonna win the district he's in.↗

7:22:18Speaker 27He, he doesn't have to win the district, he just has to open up a whole bunch of hearts and minds, that's it. I understand that. He's not, he's not there, he's not there to win.↗

7:22:26Speaker 24Randy Fine is so backed though that it's like, it's ha-- like you↗

7:22:33Speaker 27He's not there to win the race, he's there to open the conversation against their biggest bitch in Congress and to fucking expose it. That's all he's doing. And let me tell you something, he's planting the seeds so in two thousand and twenty-eight, they have a real candidate. Fishback is backed by, Nick. I'll tell you right now, Dan doesn't trust Fishback, so take that for what it's will. But let me tell you guys something, Dan is losing money doing this. Dan is losing a lot of money doing this. Nick is making money doing this. Never forget that.↗

7:23:04Speaker 24Yeah, but Nick's not running, though. That's the thing. So he can make as much money as he wants.↗

7:23:09Speaker 27Nick's a king, Nick's a kingmaker. Nick's a kingmaker sitting back in his, throne, making money and talking shit about anyone who opposes him. Dan is a man of action. This is a guy who used to be in the US military. And again, like, to the white supremacists out there, I understand your cause, but how Immigrants. You wanna close down the borders, but then Nick says having kids is gay, having a wife and kids is gay. Y- this is double talk, and people need to call this shit out. I hate the homosexuals, and the, the Zionists pushed down on you more than anyone else. I'm telling you right now, Nick's a fraud, back then.↗

7:23:50Speaker 28Well, it certainly doesn't help us, that he actually lays Epstein. Before I go to bed.↗

7:23:56Speaker 24I think he does that more on a troll manner, like you, like a lot of people, like you guys take him so literal all the time. He was rationalizing sleeping with fourteen-year-olds, bro. How do you- Yeah.↗

7:24:08Speaker 28Hey, can you hear me, Ian?↗

7:24:12Ian MalcolmI can.↗

7:24:13Speaker 28Alright, good. I just wanted to let everyone know, thank you so much for joining this space. It was absolutely epic. I had a blast. I'm so thankful for everyone's thoughts. It got a little chaotic here and there, but it was, an interesting time, and I really appreciate y'all. For those that have ears to hear, just remember you were created for a purpose. You have talents, ideas, and abilities that we need as a people, and we need to come together in order to discover each other's talents, ideas, and abilities and help support one another because it takes To make the dream work, and it takes teamwork to make a movement. And, you know, this is just my opinion, I, I believe that Nick is subversive to the movement, and that he will be expelled from the movement like a body expels a disease. But, regardless of that, I hope y'all have a blessed night, keep fighting, White Power, whatever power you may be. And, thank you so much for having me, Ian. Thank you, Truth Teller, God bless you, I'll keep fighting.↗

7:25:08Ian MalcolmNo, and, and Christopher, I just wanna thank↗

7:25:13Ian MalcolmSet up this space, for being up here the entirety of it as, as the featured guest here on this topic, for helping to bring in so many friends, throughout so that we could have these discussions on all sides of the aisle for what it's worth, and I wanna really highlight that 'cause apparently Christopher, you know, has his bias on, on Fuentes.↗

7:25:32Ian Malcolmwhat I would certainly say is that Nick Fuentes has done a lot of good for the, let's say, the awareness of this issue. I think there's been a number of↗

7:25:43Ian MalcolmIsrael and Charlie Kirk connection, which I, I, I still find it very strange to in, inmediately knee jerk away from the prospect of, of them being connected, especially in the aftermath, and I thought the Jeffrey Epstein stuff was just flat out strange. But nonetheless, I'm, I'm willing to certainly recognize, concede, and support him as a voice in the capacity that he is. but Dan Bilesarian is on the front line trying to make a difference politically to actually bring about, like, and I feel strange saying this, I couldn't agree with Gary Moore on the zeit- I think a shift that I think Dan Bilzerian will be able to make if he's able to get onto the ticket and stand in opposition to Randy Fine. And as I said to him in the space, not this one, but the last conversation that we had with Bilzerian and Dr. Michael Recktenwald,↗

7:26:27Ian Malcolmwhat Dan Bilzerian should do is to publicly ask in a polite fashion for Randy Fine to meet him on the debate stage. If he can win the primary, that is what Dan Buzaring should do over and over and over again, and he should say, "I don't have any animus towards all Jews. I want to talk to this fat Jew, and if he's willing, I would love to discuss these ideas with him on a stage for all of the people in the district so that we can hash out these ideas. Why will he not do that?" And Randy Fyne won't meet him on that debate stage, I can almost guarantee it. And so instead, Dan Bilzerian will get to sit there for weeks on end, months on end, and say, "Why won't you just have a discussion? It's because he's afraid, because he knows that he has an indefensible position, and it will expose the laughable nature that is Randy Fyne." So, I think Dan Bilzerian is a hero. Like Gary said, he's losing money, he's taking a lot of slings, a lot of arrows, being dragged↗

7:27:26Ian MalcolmAnd he said, "You're already fine as genocidal." Here's his tweets. Right? That's all we need to do is to share the truth, to show these things, and for what it's worth, to stand arm in arm with anybody and everybody that's willing to productively move the cause forward, to bring awareness, and then with that awareness, to bring about real change. And you're welcome to believe that Nick Fuentes, who has done a great job on the first piece, you're welcome to think maybe he is doing something somewhat subversive. Maybe he is trying to maybe↗

7:27:56Ian MalcolmPlacidity by saying that, you know, maybe there is no possibility with change with the Anvilzarion or with Casey Puch or with whoever, right? And there's actually a weird connection that you can make between Operation Trust and the Bolsheviks, the idea of Operation Q, and perhaps the idea that there could be a guy within the antisemit movement that is the operation, whatever you wanna call that, right? That is going to- The top guy.↗

7:28:19Speaker 27The top guy. Yeah, the guy who tells you little truths with big lies. That guy.↗

7:28:24Ian MalcolmWell, a-and at, at the end benefit to any of the awareness if we don't bring about real change. And I think Casey Pugh could have brought real change to Ohio. I find it really disappointing that he didn't get more support than he did, right? And now we've got to look, that's in the past. We don't need to continuously beat people over the head for things that they failed to do previously. We instead should try to figure out in the present what we can do in the future to make the world better. We got lots of great speakers up here, so I apologize, but Christopher, I just wanted↗

7:28:53Ian Malcolmto Humble man, you recognize that we are just what we are. We're here serving a higher power, and as a result, we shouldn't fear the slings and the arrows, and you've done so publicly, which-- And Gary said this to me a year or two ago in silly spaces, "Hey, you're hiding behind an anonymous account." Gary's not wrong on that. That's a reasonable critique. I'm willing to look in myself in the mirror and say, "Yeah, I'm not," 'cause there's a lot that's, that's there to be lost if you talk about↗

7:29:26Ian MalcolmNick, point doesn't anybody else that is discussing these things face forward, a whole lot of credit for the willingness to do that. But with that being said, we got a lot of other hands. Christopher, thank you for being here. We'll go through a couple more of these speakers, probably wrap things up shortly thereafter, 'cause I think Truth also has to wind things down. But, what I will do is, David, I'll send you a co-host invite if you wanna come up here. But let's go to Mr. Patrick, who's had his hand up here for↗

7:29:55Ian MalcolmFeel free to jump in with any of these speakers where it makes sense. Let's have a productive conversation. Hey, hey,↗

7:29:59Speaker 29thank, thank you so much, Ian, for your kind words. God bless you, brother. And I, and y- and it's you that, that's bringing me into these spaces, that's continuing to keep me active, and it's got me motivated to get in these spaces more, so that's why I sent you that message. We gotta talk privately sometime to formulate ideas and plans. And convers, you're such an intelligent man, I always have your back↗

7:30:25Speaker 29Led one of the most influential JQ movements out there, the JP project. So God bless you, Converse, God bless you all. Have a good night. God bless↗

7:30:31@ehsanjoarderyou, man. I love you. Thank you for everything. And, I'll see you in two weeks. I'm gonna do a JP space, God willing, in two weeks.↗

7:30:38Speaker 30All right? All right. Yeah, I'm looking forward to↗

7:30:39Speaker 29it.↗

7:30:40Speaker 30Thank you, Christopher. Really quickly, I have a bunch of people in my DMs, Ian, if you don't mind, asking me to address-↗

7:30:47Ian MalcolmAnd real quick, just also wanna say I put the video of, if you're not familiar with Christopher, it's up in the nest. That was not to bring attention to my content, but the moment you look even just at the nest, you'll know exactly the video that, we're all referencing that Christopher Wood was talking about face forward all the way back during COVID about these issues and has been on the front line of this thing↗

7:31:10Ian MalcolmChristopher Wood, yes, he's an absolute- Oh, you're a fucking↗

7:31:13Speaker 30OG, I love you. Hell yeah.↗

7:31:15Ian MalcolmBut go for it,↗

7:31:15Speaker 30Kergan. So, so I've been getting DMs about, you know, maybe you should reveal your real views about Nick Fuentes, you know? So let me, let me go ahead and address this, because this seems to be a controversial subject, which I think is ridiculous, Ian by- Ian by far just summarized it perfectly. You're a perfectly normal person in our movement if you support Nick Fuentes, you don't have to be Any of us that have supported Nick in the past know that he's not perfect. I've said this since I've-- the beginning, I've always disagreed with Nick on personal things. when he said it's gay to have sex with women, I didn't know if he was kidding or not. I stopped watching him. I kinda haven't really watched him regularly since. But- When it was back in the day, when shit was dry, and this, I'm gonna get into this whole fucking↗

7:32:04Speaker 30ex-like ridiculous extreme low IQ antisemitism thing, which I really do think is a problem. Back in the day, when there was no one other than, you know, the fucking Daily Stormer and a few other people, you know, David Duke, Patrick Slattery, who was his co-host, Kevin McDonald, who I read, he didn't have a show. I watched Adam Green. I'm not a, I'm not a CQ guy, but I watched Adam Green. I also watched Nick Fuentes. I watched him for years, and I would just compare notes to him and Adam Green 'cause I thought they were both on the end of the spectrum, like opposite, right? Polar opposites. They disagreed on everything. But I was like, "Fuck it, this is entertaining content."↗

7:32:47Speaker 30But I agreed after I got older, I realized, you know what, this guy and I don't agree on the same personal shit. I don't think you should eat McDonald's and avoid the gym. I know subsequently he's fucking changed his opinion on that, but I stopped watching him at that point. But the way that people attack him, I think is unfair, because I know he was one of the ones that fucking jailed like, at least a few hundred thousand people back in the day. He was always talking about this. In converse Love you brother, but I, I totally disagree with you. You said he never said this, that was his show. He had a whole show in his mom's basement. Everyone likes to make fun of him for that, when he was a kid. Or all he did was fucking name change. I know, I like Andrew Anglin.↗

7:33:30@ehsanjoarderI, I'm just, I'm saying I really like Andrew↗

7:33:32Speaker 30Anglin every day. I think that's where you got the info.↗

7:33:36@ehsanjoarderWhat? Yeah, but that's where you got the info though. That's what I'm telling you. Yeah, well, Andrew Anglin, Andrew Anglin is, he was↗

7:33:40Speaker 31already a star at nineteen years old. At nineteen, he was a star with Charlottesville. I already pointed out who funded Charlottesville, the Unite the Right, which was funded by the Southern Poverty Law Can control the goddamn narrative. And every single time it's a big issue,↗

7:34:02Speaker 32he goes against it. Yeah, but you're a Jew, bro. You're a Jew. Well, as a non-Jew, I would say that that's, that's accurate. So what about↗

7:34:05Speaker 33controlling narrative? So what? So what about controlling narrative?↗

7:34:11Speaker 30So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? So what? Women having sex with women is get-- that's crazy, right? Having-- like, I think he's a little bit maybe, you know, I think he's an insel, I think he's an insel. I wouldn't go as head and say he has sex with men, I don't think he does. I, I, there's some things that made me, there's some things that made me split ways with him. Pretty obvious. But there's a, there's a Jewish narrative, it's called Hezbollah here against Nick, that's starting to work in, its way into our circles, and we're watching a Jew up here right now, whose whole entire modus operandi is to show us what that fucking Hezbollah is.↗

7:34:53Speaker 32Well, alright, so then you could just kick him. If, I mean, if we don't want him here, kick him.↗

7:34:57Speaker 31Wow. Wow, go ahead, guys,↗

7:35:01Speaker 30it Show us, show us the financial proof that he was being paid. Number one,↗

7:35:07Ian Malcolmhang on. Number one, Gary, you made some very reasonable points earlier, and so, no interest in kicking you, especially just based purely on your ethnicity, I would never do that, first and foremost. secondly, just to read off some of the commentary, there is somebody in the purple pill, s t f u, Gary, you are an op. but another person, the very next thing, it's crazy, but I'm agreeing with Gary the numbers guy. Over here. and so Gary, you seem to have fans on both sides of the love and the, dislike spectrum, but, certainly not going to get- Well, yeah, I would have said↗

7:35:42Speaker 32the same. What Gary is saying is, I mean, is what I thought before I ever heard Gary speak. So it's not that I'm agreeing with Gary, it's that I'm just, it's, I think that he's always been a controlled op. I do, I do, I genuinely believe that.↗

7:35:58Speaker 34Who, who is? Nick. Yeah, for sure. I mean, when Nick talks about 9/11, he gets nervous. He, he still, he still peddles the whole thing about like actual hijackers, never says, "Uh, you know, Israel did 9/11." You know, it, there's something there, man. It is definitely something there. Yeah,↗

7:36:13Speaker 32people talk about, "Oh, okay, it's great he repelled people." The whole point is to take the, the, the disaffected group of people, give them a home, and then immobilize them,↗

7:36:29Speaker 32You wanna talk about Heiseber talking points, low IQ antisemitism? That is, that is straight up at a Tel Aviv, that talking point.↗

7:36:36Speaker 34That's what I'm saying, like 9/11 isn't a conspiracy theory, like we don't- I know, but↗

7:36:40Speaker 33to some people in the diaspora, it is.↗

7:36:42Speaker 32Well, also, also how is it that, how is it that we don't look into immediately Charlie- What do you mean, some↗

7:36:47Speaker 34people in the diaspora?↗

7:36:49Speaker 32You just slipped there. Charlie Kirk, it couldn't have been Israel, right? But↗

7:36:58Speaker 32you know, we don't, we don't have real evidence that would hold up in a court of law.↗

7:37:01Speaker 34Yeah, we do. We have fucking thermite. Like, there's academic papers, it, it's like, bro, there's academic papers you can source for a university paper, which I've done, that says there's one for the University of Copenhagen, there's one for the University of Provo, Utah, that talk about thermite, explosive material being in the dust of the World Trade Center, just like October 7 being an inside job. There's an academic paper put↗

7:37:27Speaker 34He's saying that Israeli financial traders made millions, pre-9/11↗

7:37:33Ian Malcolmthat, that was inside job of course. That's growing in from the purple pill. Vaxins Regae, I don't, don't know if I pronounced that properly. it says he did, I'm referring to Nick, did a whole show talking about how Israel did 9/11. What are you talking about? So I don't know if that is true or false, but just something from the gallery here.↗

7:37:52Speaker 32Well, yeah, I'm not of the opinion personally that Nick wouldn't talk about this stuff. I don't know who said that he doesn't talk about that stuff, but, yeah, so whatever, let's move on, whatever. Outside of his,↗

7:38:02Speaker 35outside of his, can we, can we agree that your previous positions don't justify your current positions? Right? So we don't rest on our lawyer, laurels or the accolades of the past when it comes to taking strange positions that are contrary to, your stated ideology? Or your stated preference, if you consistently, which he has, and this is why I became critical of him, 'cause I thought it was very odd,↗

7:38:29Speaker 35the last year, taken very, very blatantly pro-Israel positions when it comes to the largest main-- the largest media events probably of the century, right? what, like, how does that not come under scrutiny by his base? I don't understand that. He protected Israel During Charlie Kirk, he protected Israel during Epstein, right? So, so why, why is that not coming under scrutiny by his base? Like that, that, that, that already-↗

7:39:03Speaker 31No, no, hold on, guys. That's exactly why they put him in the position of power. That's exactly why they had him, number one. So when those big moments came, he could push back on 'em. Yes. You guys don't see the side of the museum,↗

7:39:15Speaker 32right? Hundred↗

7:39:16Speaker 34percent, hundred↗

7:39:17@ehsanjoarderpercent. That's how it works, yeah. I never agree with Jews, but I don't That's exactly what I already told you. Hey, I'm starting to↗

7:39:24Speaker 30agree with the Jews too, Louis.↗

7:39:26@ehsanjoarderHey, September, September ninth, there was a new-- I said it five days ago. Let me get a mortgage,↗

7:39:31Speaker 32bro.↗

7:39:32@ehsanjoarderSeptember ninth, there was a New York Times fluff piece, the first one, and it came the day before the assassination, and then immediately after, you have not only Nick, but also Richard Spencer, another spook, and Dave Smith, the goodest Jew on earth, apparently, all three of them saying, "Hey, by the way, didn't-- I really hate, I think Netanyahu's like literally Satan, but even me, I don't think Israel did it. And why would you just come out and say that right off the bat? And then of course, yeah, as someone mentioned, Netanyahu himself came out and denied it three fucking times. Yeah, that was the whole thing. And not only that, I'd be like, "Bro,↗

7:40:08Speaker 34I mean, we're on X here, so we bumped into and, and seen, like, at least I have, I've seen like groupers and grouper, spaces and chat rooms↗

7:40:22Speaker 34Very dark shit. Yeah, these are the people like Nick keeps close to him, and like, they, they've tried to done weird shit like this to me, to, to, and that's how you control people too. I, I try to, like, I, I never, I don't do the group chats and shit. I feel↗

7:40:34Speaker 33like a lot of people that like that shit are definitely not people that are close to Nick.↗

7:40:38Speaker 34What do you mean? He was↗

7:40:38Speaker 32really close with that Alexander Alexander guy. One example↗

7:40:44Ian Malcolmis going through, going through, going through, going through, going↗

7:40:49Speaker 35through, going↗

7:40:53Ian MalcolmI think it's the double mute.↗

7:40:59Speaker 35Fucking Eli, I love you, bro, but please get that shit fixed. needs to be↗

7:41:03Speaker 29fixed.↗

7:41:03Speaker 35I mean, I don't really love you, but still, please get it fixed. I'm just saying that I love you so I don't get shadow banned by Nikita. Clips, can you tell, can you rationalize him to take a constant position of protecting, and I don't have a problem with him. I don't, you know what? I don't even blame Zionists for protecting Israel. They believe in that shit, let 'em believe in it or whatever, right? That's, that's up to them. I don't tell people what to believe, what not to believe, you know? People are free to do whatever they want. But it's clear that he is deflecting blame from Israel when it comes to Epstein and Kirk, which are the two largest, the biggest stories that affect American perception in the last hundred years, right? Or maybe the last fifty years, right? And definitely of this millennia so far. So like, how do you rationalize him? Protecting the, the government of Israel on the two biggest conversations ever in America, pretty much to this day.↗

7:42:02Speaker 32Well, well, they'll tell you that he wasn't protecting them. He was, he was more so like-↗

7:42:07Speaker 35I, I would rather don't give him, don't give him any, I would rather hear his unadulterated feedback.↗

7:42:15Speaker 32Who's Nick specifically or who's- Well, around the same time is when this low IQ anti-Semitism term started floating around. No, I'm asking↗

7:42:21Speaker 35him as a Groper.↗

7:42:23Speaker 32I think Grimm, like Grimm at that point, were you watching Nick regularly? Clips, Clips is like the pro Nick guy, right? Yeah, bro, that's, that's ex- that's the same time where the low IQ anti-Semitism term started floating around. Yeah, so let Grimm speak, Grimm, because Grimm knows, Grimm, Grimm actually watched the show at this point,↗

7:42:37Speaker 35so I want anybody to speak for Nick, Defending Israel, on the two largest conversations of the century, like, how, how-- when it doesn't make sense. If it actually made sense would be one thing, but when it, it doesn't, when the evidence doesn't support the position, how do you rationalize that?↗

7:42:59Speaker 31The head of the MI-6 was, a Soviet spy for over ten years. Always remember, they get you at the very, very top level, man. I know exactly how this game works. He's been bought and paid for since 2017. You guys are starting to wake up, and I really hope you take control of your own movement.↗

7:43:18Speaker 32Yeah, I mean, I get comments on posts all the time, "Oh, what, they've, they've been planning this for 10 years, 15 years?" It's like, I mean, yeah, they, they, they do. That's, that's how this kinda works. Tony, you↗

7:43:29Speaker 30don't wanna agree, you don't wanna agree too much with the Jew. Just letting↗

7:43:33Speaker 31you know. Listen, I, I haven't been to, fucking temples since I've been forced. I'm the guy who fucking burned, Rabbi Schmuly and fucking destroyed him in a debate. What are you guys talking about, man? I got no money that I'm making off this shit. If anything, it fucking hurts me.↗

7:43:50Speaker 31I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm↗

7:43:59Ian MalcolmHasn't had a chance to speak, and I say that just 'cause there's, twenty-something people trying to get up on, to the panel. But let's go to, to Patrick and check in with him, and, and then we'll, we'll cycle some folks out.↗

7:44:12Speaker 36Hey, you're in, epic space. I think the best space I've, I ever been in. so much information to process. I could weigh in on a lot of stuff, but I don't wanna talk too long. A lot of people wanna I noticed that, I think people are getting stuck on, on the Fed thing and, and analyzing that, that too much. What I noticed is,↗

7:44:39Speaker 36like, was it Myron the other day? He said, "I know Fed, you know, he's a Fed, like literally, or he was, you know." "I know Feds, he's not a Fed." But I think when people say that, they don't mean like, "You're a Fed, you got a badge and a gun, you're on the, on the payroll." I think it's more people mean that you've been co-opted. And I put nothing by these people, and that's what, what I think when someone says they're fed, I think this, you know, what they're really saying is this, this person's been co-opted by an unknown entity that has made them change their stance and, and redirection at↗

7:45:22Speaker 36you know, to, to, benefit a certain, certain group or outcome. And I did see that with Nick. I, I watched Nick a long time ago. I think, he had just come on to Rumble. I'm sure he's got fans that have been with him for, you know, twenty, fifteen, however long he's been around, but I, I watched him since he had probably-- I think he had like twenty thousand people on Rumble. And,↗

7:45:48Speaker 36I saw his narrative change, and I saw things, you know, just little things where it's like, "Oh, yeah, that's a contradiction," "Oh, that's a backstep," and, eventually, yeah, after the Charlie Kirk thing, immediately I saw a huge change, and, it just got to the point I was all done with him. Now, I never got into the, the sycophant thing with the, with the following and all that, I saw that too,↗

7:46:16Speaker 36but, As far as like, you can't put it past these people to, to plan long-term. You look at the, you look at the Hezbollah pager thing. That was, they, they, they planted those ten years ago, and look at how many, how many, companies they had to set up and all that to, to, to make that happen. So, you know, I wouldn't put it past, put it past these people↗

7:46:45Speaker 36I'm not saying this happened, it was just a thought that, you know, I wouldn't put it past them to, just to put someone around you, you know, make them be like your best friend for years, and then when at a pivotal moment, they almost just put a gun on you and just say, "Hey, listen, this is who I am, we're all around you, and this is what, what you're gonna do. You go, you can go rat me out." But there's a bunch of us just like me around you, and, you know, because after, after the Hezbollah pager thing, I mean, what, what can't they do? So, so yeah, I do think they, they implant their forces everywhere, and it is, it's, but I don't think they're gonna be able to overcome the noticing, but But yeah, I, I don't think,↗

7:47:39Speaker 31what's the story? My, my friend, what's the story? The story was that Ben Shapiro went to Charlie Kirk and pressured him to kick him out of, his organization, and then he became the leader of Charlottesville, which where we have the Southern, Poverty Law Center connection. What's to say that Ben Shapiro wasn't the cover? What's to say that he didn't, as a asset himself, he didn't fucking implant himself? I'm on the other side. Listen, you guys really need to start thinking outside the box here, man. This is how these people think. I'm telling you, he's an asset, and you finally have a guy, Dan, who doesn't give a fuck, is gonna say what he wants to say, sometimes, a little bit too much, but, you guys, are you gonna run this movement or are you gonna have controlled opposition running for you? Well, we don't, I would, I would,↗

7:48:29Speaker 37I would say this, we don't entirely know if and when someone Think about the moment we're in, in civilizationally. this is why citizen journalism like what Dilligent does is so important. We're being lied to, and we know it. We know after COVID, after everything we've been through, we realize, gosh, these aren't incompetent firemen, these are dedicated arsonists. They're absolutely controlling our government. They're absolutely lying to us. It is really just-- It's a shocking thing to awaken. We used to think the Soviet Union and- North Korea, well, they were the people who told these giant lies to their people, even in their history books, and we have awakened to the fact that that is the world that we live in, that essentially this is the Matrix, and the world, as Morpheus said, has been pulled down around our eyes so that we will not see. So I don't know who's a Fed, but I can do pattern, pattern, pattern recognition. And the important thing is that these people, like Baby Nick, lose all credibility because they deserve it. I'm sorry, but when you're doing an about Days Epstein and then sell his shirts and tell us how cool he is. When, when you tell us, don't think about any other option besides Tyler Robison. By the way, that is a really stupid, a rational, not irrational, a rational thing to say. Go, go to Diligent Space and ask yourself, well, did Israel do this? And say, no, no, no, we don't know that yet, but we know, here's what we, the evidence we have to suspect these other, you know, intelligence, wouldn't matter ours or Israel's, but for someone Tell you, don't look behind the curtain, don't consider, consider other, any other option, especially when the narrative that's being presented to you is clearly Pliny the Aired, it's full of shit. Especially when he's an authority↗

7:50:19Speaker 35over that particular section of media, right? Like, you guys go to him to be critical of Israel, and he's telling you, "No, no, no, there's no way Israel was involved." Like that, David, don't you think that's-↗

7:50:32Speaker 37Beyond strange. It was the weirdest. And, and when you see that, and you're just, you're not really like, you think Nick Fuentes is just the guy that you thought he was, and he does that, it is shocking. You're like, "Dude, you seem pretty smart, so I don't think..." That ignorance, I don't think it's not an intelligence issue,↗

7:50:51Speaker 35well, at least not intellect, anyways.↗

7:50:53Speaker 37No. Yeah, the guy's pretty smart. And by the way, I think that's about Trump. Yeah, I think that's what makes it more↗

7:50:57Speaker 32obvious is that he is smart, so we, he's-- That's why I think he's duplicitous, 'cause we know he's intelligent.↗

7:51:02Speaker 37Right. And, but here's, this is a very, very, even beyond the Epstein thing, telling you that you were only-- telling you exactly what Erica Kirk, the Monica Kirk↗

7:51:15Speaker 37I, I just want to contrast that with Jackie Kennedy. When Jackie Kennedy was widowed, she said, "I don't believe that one dirty little commie pulled this off alone." Now, whether you agree with her or not She was so irate about the death of her, the husband that she loved, and she was in mourning. Then Erica comes out and she's mad at anybody, if it was your spouse or mine, we'd be thinking, "Whoa, whoa, wait a second now, what are you saying to someone else? Okay, go to the cops and let's tell, let's talk. I wanna know, I wanna, I want them to nail this shit down." But no, she started demonizing everyone that was saying the exact things that Charlie Kirk was saying before he died, and then Nick F↗

7:51:59Speaker 37And it's the same thing. It just doesn't make any sense. It is completely counterintuitive. There is no rationale. There is no way. And what do Nick Fuentes' followers say? If you watch him for three hours, it'll make sense. This is, this is what they said about Jim Jones. You know, if you just go to the diner with him and drink some Kool-Aid, it'll all sink in. Yeah, or Charles Manson. You just↗

7:52:19Speaker 32gotta listen to Charles Manson go. I speak↗

7:52:20Speaker 33for myself on this. I'm not like, I, I solely believe↗

7:52:28Speaker 33The whole Charlie Kirk thing is weird, you know what I'm saying? And like with him saying, "Ignore all that," no, I do think it's weird, you know? I'm in that situation where I'm like, "No, this needs to be investigated," like there was a lot of suss shit that happened that day. But it's not Charlie Kirk in isolation, it's Epstein too.↗

7:52:45Speaker 33Oh, yeah, but what we're-↗

7:52:46Speaker 32Yes, but I think also the Charlie Kirk thing, I mean, let, let's say there is, there was some type of,↗

7:52:53Speaker 32you↗

7:52:58Speaker 32Take some of his audience, right? Because people were becoming more extreme and more pissed off at the establishment, and when Charlie died, Nick gained what, three hundred-something thousand followers, I think, like overnight. Yeah, because I,↗

7:53:10Speaker 33I feel like a lot of people too were in, like, it was like a, like the bubble popped, and all of a sudden everyone was just like, "Wait, what the fuck?" And then like, no one knew where to go.↗

7:53:21Speaker 38No, it's not a little deal. This is a big deal. Like, these are big deals, Epstein, Charlie, and he did weird shit, and it's like, you figure it's one of those things you go to post on, it's like, "Oh my God, it's a big deal, nobody gives a shit." I think that's a big problem, with everything nowadays, that everything's gotta be validated by the first, by the mainstream media or the, you know, or the FBI's gotta release a document to us for us to know if they're a feds↗

7:53:50Speaker 32What to think at this point. That's right. And, and the Epstein↗

7:53:53Speaker 37thing, the Epstein thing proves it, because when Dilan was running his bases on investigating them, the message from the zeitgeist, from the government, from the media was just deep six. This is going to go away. You could tell they really believed that they were going to be able to memory hold this, and we never gave up, never gave up, never gave up, and all of a sudden they realized, oh my God, we're doing our level best, we own the giant megaphones of society. We have all the money to put behind it, we have people in high places saying these things, whatever you want to say, and yet the people are waking up and saying, "No, no, no, this is the biggest scandal in American history, and we won't let it go." The highest people, the, the giant club that George Carlin talked about, is now a pedophile rape club being run by intelligence. I mean, the Speaker of the House said, "We can't release all of this because there are intelligence aspects to this." What? That's a strange admission by one of the most important people in our government. And then Charlie Kirk gets assassinated. Gone is the Epstein discussion. Gone. Nobody's talking about it. And the-- and Charlie Kirk, which was the biggest assassination in front and center, God and country, happened just like the JFK thing, where everybody was just shocked to their core, all of a sudden we're talking about that. And then once again, the same group of people are implicated, and once again, we're told, and Joe-- and Joe can't back this up, "Oh, there's intelligence aspects to To the assassination, what? And we're not allowed to talk about it? And it's antisemitic to talk about it? What did,↗

7:55:24Speaker 35what did Nick say about Joe Kent? Did he have an opinion on that? I'm curious. I didn't-- Well, he was immediately against the--↗

7:55:33@ehsanjoarderHe↗

7:55:33Speaker 35called him, so he immediately attacked him like he does with anybody that is, so, so again, I mean, that's another example, Joe Kent coming forward and saying that there's a, a tie to a foreign nexus here, and, and he, and Nick defending the narrative goes after a whistleblower. That, like, how many times are you gonna have that happen before you're like, what the fuck? And of course, we shouldn't just trust Joe Kent. And of course,↗

7:55:58Ian Malcolmwe shouldn't just, to throw something out there. And, and this is actually public activation of the groypers. I am not trying to get more people in here with the low- Ian, I appreciate the time. Thank you. I gotta go. Thank you. Of course, Max. Not trying to, to increase the size of the space for my ego. I am, in all sincerity, I keep trying to rotate and cycle through people that are requesting mics that have frog icons in hopes of getting a more balanced panel, because the purple pill is nothing but anonymous accounts that have less than, let's say, a hundred posts on average saying, "Oh, great, it Space. Well then, send somebody who will talk on behalf of Nick. Yeah, we gotta get people in here. What am I missing here? If you wanna be coddled, then go be coddled in a cope space, in an echo chamber. I'm trying to let up both sides of the conversation. We've had multiple people, including Gen Z, who I absolutely love, who's a big time groipper. If you're in the purple pill, send someone. I've-- here's another one, this John guy, I brought him up. I keep rotating through frogs, hoping↗

7:57:03Ian MalcolmAnd the ones that I bring up are like, yeah, I mean, Nick's pretty weird in that regard. Send in better spokespeople, Groypers.↗

7:57:09Speaker 39Hey, send in Nick Fuentes himself. Hey, send in Nick Fuentes. Hey, don't you remember that they, they, such a leader,↗

7:57:13Speaker 32sent him in himself? Yeah, that's where, where is he at?↗

7:57:16Speaker 39I think I'm a pretty good speaker for the whole movement.↗

7:57:19Ian MalcolmApparent- apparently you're not, because the purple pill is filled with people crying and complaining that Nick's not, not getting defended by anybody. I↗

7:57:32Speaker 35It doesn't, it's weird, it's weird that he would do that. It's, it's really hard, even as an ideologue or a cultist, it's really hard to defend an↗

7:57:40Speaker 33indefensible↗

7:57:45Speaker 39position. I never said that it's really weird↗

7:57:49Ian Malcolmthat he would- I mean, hey, I'm trying to defend him a little bit. I just hold on. I think I'm doing a pretty- I, I wanna↗

7:57:56Speaker 33at least have my chance to speak. Go, well, go, no, in all sincerity, I, I am, I am, and Clips, I, I, I'm not speaking for like Nick Fuentes, or I'm not speaking for the Groypers as a whole. I'm speaking as a person who's a, like, a part of, a supporter of the movement, but I'm also speaking my ideas, my points.↗

7:58:16Ian MalcolmNo, and, and, and I, I think that's really great. And, and I, I just find it wild because I, I suppose the people that came in that were very pro-Nick included Lucas Gage, who refused to acknowledge the absurdity of the Israeli connections in terms of the benefits to the overlap of the Shooting, I, I, I don't know how to take that as anything other than perspective. I don't want to just say subversive and play the Fed jacket game, but that seemed like a very absurd cope. What↗

7:58:42Speaker 32about Beardsen?↗

7:58:43Ian MalcolmWhat did he have to say? Well, that was, hey, what about me? I think I can, I think I can add something to this whole situation. And there's been countless little posts about Beardsen came in to defend Nick Fuentes, and then they had to kick him because he was↗

7:58:56Speaker 33doing the↗

7:58:59Ian Malcolmcontrol, he was trying to troll High school parking lot with a bunch of profane language. He was warned twice about it, and then one of the other co-hosts dropped him after he just recklessly did it over and over again. Yeah,↗

7:59:12Speaker 32I've been in a space with him before, that's what he does. He comes in, he causes chaos, he's literally like Nick's like dog or some shit. Where is Morgan? I keep trying to look, Morgan. Where is Keith↗

7:59:21Speaker 35Trumpster? You need, you need Keith Trumpster in here. He can get him. Where, where's he↗

7:59:29Ian Malcolmat? Keith Trumpster was↗

7:59:32Ian MalcolmI apologize. If the Nick Valenzas fanboys feel like he's not getting properly represented, send somebody to do a better job of that. I mean, hey, I'm here. Can I speak? Yes, of course you can, Frog. Go for it. Yeah, thanks.↗

7:59:45@ehsanjoarderI mean, you let Chief Trumpster up here and he just took shots at me and then that failed too, so I mean- I mean, hey,↗

7:59:50Speaker 39I just wanna say, you know, as someone who was or is or whatever-↗

7:59:55Speaker 40I think I can speak a little bit positively about Nick. I mean, a little bit, I think he was↗

8:00:00Speaker 41smart. He drew a lot of people into the movement. But something that I find very concerning about this space is that we have several Jews Speaking of what's supposed to be an antisemitic movement, which is what someone spoke about earlier, I think that's a little weird. Define,↗

8:00:18Ian Malcolmdefine antisemitic really quickly.↗

8:00:20Speaker 41Well, one of you, I think it was one of the previous speakers, specifically said that this was an antisemitic movement.↗

8:00:26Speaker 42It's↗

8:00:27Ian Malcolmnot. Yeah, no, don't properly label anything. Oh, okay. You said it↗

8:00:33Speaker 41like ten minutes ago, so I'm just a little concerned, but hey, you know, I'm giving you guys the benefit↗

8:00:38Ian Malcolmof the doubt. Wait, wait, wait, no Who said that this was an anti-Semitic movement? I'm very confused.↗

8:00:43Speaker 41Hold on, it was like ten minutes ago, it was like a guy named, what? Hold on, was it↗

8:00:49Speaker 42I'm antisemitic.↗

8:00:50Speaker 41Antisemitic. Okay. But no, I, I just want-- Okay, so I, I'm like ninety percent sure like ten minutes ago someone said it, but, you know, that's fine, I'm okay with that. I really love Tony and Ray, they really, really did a great job talking about Hezbollah. And, Ray talks about all the relevant details about nine eleven.↗

8:01:12Speaker 43Thanks for the compliment, though, bro.↗

8:01:13Speaker 41Yeah, of course, of course, I wanna make sure you guys are complimented. I just wanted to mention, don't↗

8:01:17Speaker 42break out the lotion yet, we need some Nick LoPresti stuff.↗

8:01:21Speaker 44Yeah, how can you defend him, his position on Epstein and, Charlie Kirk? Well, he's↗

8:01:26Speaker 43kinda talking like as if he's a former Groypur, right?↗

8:01:30Speaker 44I mean, yeah,↗

8:01:31Speaker 41yeah, I am.↗

8:01:31Speaker 43Yeah, so we kinda want some of the... No, no, no,↗

8:01:33Ian Malcolmwait a second, wait a second, wait. Were we trying to get up people to defend Nick Fuentes, and you're gonna say that you weren't defending Nick Fuentes? No, no, I wasn't defending Nick Fuentes. But it really got-- He↗

8:01:40Speaker 41likes Tony. I'm a big, I'm a big Dan Bilzerian supporter, and I-- And it was really Nick's just sudden turn and all the flip-flopping that really got me to start questioning↗

8:01:54Speaker 41So I just wanted to say, okay, so you↗

8:01:55Speaker 43had Colt Lake, can you explain the Colt Lake views to us and what that was like? But↗

8:01:59Speaker 41yeah, but wait,↗

8:02:00Ian Malcolmbefore you, before you do that, because I'm sure there's people that are listening to this, out of curiosity, I just wanna ask to make sure you're not trolling right now, given the, the conversation that we just had moments ago. You're being sincere, is that fair? I'm being↗

8:02:12Speaker 41very sincere, 100%. Okay, I appreciate that. I wanna explain the loyalty doctrine. Is that like, so↗

8:02:23Speaker 41rape, kill and die for Nicolas Chefuentes. Wait, you're serious? Yeah, we all have to say this. Yeah, he is serious. I've heard this. This isn't a troll right now. You're serious? That is, that is a thing that people do? That's right. Yeah, we all meet and we say this, and then we have to also p-pledge that Albania and Romania are at war. I'm against one of those.↗

8:02:41Ian MalcolmWhat do you mean↗

8:02:41Speaker 44meet? Hang↗

8:02:48Speaker 43on, hang on. Okay, now this is clearly a troll. Yeah, I'm looking↗

8:02:53Ian MalcolmI moved him. I'm, I'm even trying to help the Fuentes side of the argument here.↗

8:02:57Speaker 43I don't know if he was completely a troll though, because they do crazy shit. I mean, I was almost ready to take the plunge.↗

8:03:02Speaker 44No, no, no, look, look at his reply. The↗

8:03:04Ian Malcolmside of the argument is okay to begin. Here's what we're gonna do. We've got a panel here of individuals, some of which might have their, their bias in terms of this, discussion, right? But they're all professional and everybody is mature. We are going↗

8:03:23Ian MalcolmTime that he can push back on the worldview. So we currently have Mr. Golden Eye Frog. Golden Eye Frog, do you have any thoughts on the conversation?↗

8:03:35Speaker 45I commend what you guys are doing, and if Nick is a fraud, burn the motherfucker down.↗

8:03:40Ian MalcolmOkay. he's a fraud, not a frog. Why does↗

8:03:44Speaker 46everybody glitch?↗

8:03:45Ian MalcolmSo, so Gold, Goldeneye, out of curiosity, with, with what's going on with Bilzerian and Nick Fuentes, can you give us thoughts into the conversation on the Nick Fuentes side of what took place and why Dan Bilzerian is, I suppose, in the wrong?↗

8:04:04Speaker 45Well, to be honest, I imagine it's all for attention, which is why you guys have gone through every top level groipper and you haven't gotten any good answers besides, "It's okay for fourteen year olds to fuck twenty one year olds," and, you know, this and that. So I think you guys pretty much got the movement captured.↗

8:04:22Ian MalcolmSo it's, it's all for attention, in, in your assertion, Nick Fuentes is doing it for clicks and monetization, I suppose.↗

8:04:30Speaker 45One hundred percent. That's why you got what's going on in Ohio, and you, you know, you have basically Randi Fine given the, the, the election, you know, and Nick supporting who he wants to support based on, who, who will engage off of clicks and all that. So it's pretty evident. And honestly, the Tyler, the Tyler, the Tyler,↗

8:04:50Ian Malcolmand I appreciate this, but I, I feel like the people listening that are the fans of Nick Fuentes are probably saying, "No, no, no, no, no, stop saying that." So I↗

8:05:01Speaker 45Oh, absolutely, and, and that, and that's okay, really, because honestly, America is far more important, and it is interesting to, to look into Nick's ideologies and who he hangs out with, like, you know, Catboy, Cammy, and all that, like, I- That's right.↗

8:05:16Speaker 43So, were you ever non- Were you ever not questioning this stuff?↗

8:05:22Speaker 45I came in much after, so in the last five months, I've had to dig back through years and years and years of stuff just to kind of find all that and, and what you guys were talking about yesterday in the space was quite revealing.↗

8:05:34Speaker 43Okay, so you wouldn't say you were ever like a, you weren't ever a cult member, you were kinda just getting into it and looking into it, and you saw things that didn't, that weren't consistent, and you, is that, would you say that's correct?↗

8:05:45Speaker 45Yeah, I ha-- I'm someone with a mature, mindset, and so I thought I could come in and kinda help, you know, okay, this is what needs to happen to get some of the mainstream on. This is the type of stuff we might need to drop if, if we want any type of movement or real, quote-unquote, motion, as the movement calls it. And then I realized that it's one hundred percent a cult hive mind that needs to run on this idea of whatever Nick says. One hundred percent loyalty, and I love loyalty, I respect it big time, but I also respect when people can say I was wrong here, or when, when they can show meekness, or when, when they can follow the Bible that they preach and all that type of stuff. To me, those are golden nuggets of real leaders, a real movement, real accountability, all the things that come with being a real man. And to be honest, like, I just don't see it.↗

8:06:45Speaker 47Nick is a narcissist, and, and, and he is upset that there are people coming into the America First movement that are going to actually make change, unlike him. Dan Buzanin going into Congress is going to affect change. Nick, with his show in his basement, don't get me wrong, Nick woke me up, right? Nick, Nick is the reason that↗

8:07:19Speaker 47I am on the America First side of things. I got red pilled, I got J pilled. He's the one that opened me up to that. But the contradictions that are coming out of him, voting for Democrats, voting for Jews the Charlie Kirk assassination and just spitting the Fed narrative. the, the constant comments on his show about how he'd--↗

8:07:53Speaker 47the, the, the sexual tension between him and Candace Owens, like it, it's, he, he's, his mind is warped. He ne- like, he needs to be removed from the movement, or the movement needs to get a new catchphrase so Nick doesn't think he's a part of it, because all he's doing is sowing division between everybody, and that's the last thing we need. Because if America First as a movement is going to succeed We need people from both sides of the aisle that feel disaffected because they're, all of our politicians are owned by APAC. It's not just the right that's owned by APAC, it's the left that's owned by APAC too. And there's people on the left- Oh no, no, no, no, I'm getting↗

8:08:56Speaker 42this down.↗

8:08:57Speaker 47And the people on the, there's people on the left that realize that they're owned by APAC So if we can find common ground with people on the left and love thy neighbor enough to put some differences aside to get our country back, and then go back to the right versus left bullshit, that's what we need to do. Otherwise, we won't have a country to take back.↗

8:09:30Ian MalcolmWell, well said and, and, and glad for it. Let's go to, I'm, I'm very excited we got Dr. Michael Recktenwald, and I apologize, I'm just gonna continue cycling through some folks, and I'm seriously trying to find more frogs in the audience. There aren't many of them, there are, even the ones you↗

8:09:47Speaker 44bring up can't, they're, they're not even- Even they're like,↗

8:09:51Ian Malcolmwell, maybe diligent,↗

8:09:53Speaker 43maybe- They're like, yeah, you're right. Well, I think they're↗

8:09:57Ian MalcolmBut, but we do have Dr. Michael Recktenwald in here, and, and Dr. as somebody who is not only very familiar with Mr. Bilzerian, I know you're, you're tethered to the campaign, watching it closely, but also as a student of and a professional who's spent a lot of time in the political realm, can you kind of walk us through what you think we're witnessing, the pros and cons of it, and, and what your ideal situation looks like coming out of it?↗

8:10:25Speaker 48Yeah, thanks for having me in, and good to see you all here. the, you know, broadly speaking, I, I find these kind of feuds to be quite, shall I say, disappointing, and, I think that they're, they're actually, you know, more or less Shall we say, dis- ja-- you know, dysfunctional. and it saddens me to see them, but they happen, and this is just the way things are.↗

8:10:56Speaker 48you know, it is no secret that, I personally and as a PAC, are having endorsed and support, Bill Zarian's campaign, and we, we also endorse and support The campaign of Aaron Baker, who's also running in that, district. and, Well, you↗

8:11:14Speaker 42endorsed both of them?↗

8:11:16Speaker 48Well, we did. We, we first we endorsed Aaron Baker because, he came into the race and he was the only anti-Zionist or non-Zionist opponent, and so we endorsed and, funded his campaign. And then Dan stepped into the ring, and we, we saw no reason to unendorse Aaron. after he had campaigned for over a year and, we had been behind him for months and months,↗

8:11:42Speaker 48and but at the same time, we have every reason to support Dan's campaign, and, we don't think this will split the vote. What we think this will do, we'll draw more, money into the race, and th-this will possibly make it, a case that we will actually pull out a victory at cost, while they're- Costing, well, costing the Zionists millions of dollars. This is the hope. Now, I can't tell Aaron to step out of the race. I just, that's not my business. I am not his campaign manager. It is his business whether he stays in the race or not. well, we,↗

8:12:21Speaker 42we had them both in the space today, and I can tell you that, Dan was way more compelling and Aaron prescribed the sedative of his presence, so I'm not sure. Yeah, I mean,↗

8:12:33Speaker 48look, we know that Dan has much more firepower and, he's got the massive audience. His delivery is excellent. He's quick on his feet. He's, he's very, very articulate with reference to the issues and the overarching, question, of course, which is, you know, complete, you know, subversion, infiltration, and occupation of the government and other areas of America American society, if not all of them. and so, you know, we find him to be a most compelling candidate, and, we, we, we-- but we can't really do anything more than give the candidates our endorsement and some money, and then we run advertisements against their opponents, and that's what we're focusing on, is taking down Randy Fine. And so we're, we have a billboard campaign-- Politically↗

8:13:24Ian Malcolmspeaking, just wanna call it out. Pardon? You, you said taking down, I just, I just wanted to add, politically speaking. Oh, yes, yes,↗

8:13:31Speaker 48yes, yes, yes.↗

8:13:32Speaker 42Yeah, 'cause otherwise you take like five people. When↗

8:13:34Speaker 48I'm, when I'm speaking as a, as a, as a director of a PAC, so it's a political action committee, not a, guerrilla warfare campaign. So, so hopefully the feds will understand that. so, Yeah, I mean, we're trying to get rid of Randy Fine. This is the key. we need to take down-- this would be a massive political and symbolic victory because he obviously is a big impediment to national sovereignty. He is obviously an absolute horror, and, that he-- that this government sanctions the likes of him in its midst is a great-- it's a s-- besmirches our entire national character. It's beyond-- it's disgusting beyond belief. So he must be removed. And, that's what we're up, up, up to. you know, I have no-- I'm not going to-- I've spoken to maybe Nick Fuentes online maybe once, in which, in which case he said "fuck you" to me because I said, "What's going on here? Has Nick, been hired by the cabal or what?" Or something to that effect, and he said "fuck you." And then I said, "Yeah, come on, Nick, you know, we--" I tried to,↗

8:14:41Speaker 48Sort of have some reproachment, and, you know, he didn't have anything of it, but it was mostly, tongue in cheek, and I think, you know, I gave Nick Fuentes the benefit of the doubt in many cases, that he was trying to be purposely ironic, but if he becomes so ironic that he ends up endorsing Randi Fain or something like that, then that, that'll be a bridge too far. This other stuff, I, I mean, look, I, I find that The, the, the real problem is that our country is in ju-grave jeopardy. We have been infiltrated, they're sucking our life blood out of us, we're being dis-then they're gonna throw us off like so much husk. And here we are fighting this bullshit internally. This is the kind of stuff that has to be overcome, and, we have to unify at some point, with some people, and, and that's what I'm afraid this will delay, but, you know, this is the way things are. It's the kind of things that happen in, po--↗

8:15:42Speaker 48you know, political sphere is a messy place. but, you know, I, I think that we need to keep principles above personalities, to borrow, a phrase from Alcoholics Anonymous. Thank you.↗

8:15:57Speaker 49Can I say something? I've been waiting for like an hour.↗

8:16:00Speaker 42Yeah, no, go for it.↗

8:16:01Speaker 49That's↗

8:16:02Speaker 42all you're allowed to say.↗

8:16:04Speaker 49I've been, I'll be very quick. so I'm really glad to see, of course my baby wants to yell at me. Okay, I'm very glad to see people are waking up, more people are waking up to- Happy Mother's↗

8:16:13Ian MalcolmDay, by the way. Thank↗

8:16:14Speaker 49you. I appreciate it, thank you. I'm very glad to see that more people are waking up to, Fuentes being the subversive little twerp he is. I will say, yeah, the catboy camming thing, I was there around then, and that was very real.↗

8:16:33Speaker 49Very flamboyant, open homosexual, with cat ears, yeah, and, yeah, when he was being questioned about it, Cammy, the way he was laughing was that, that's, hehe, I'm gonna be secretive about him, defend him, but yeah, we, we secretly, you know, we, we didn't fuck, wink, wink. Anyways, besides that, you don't have to support Patriot Front, everybody has their views, however, I do know people inside Patriot Front who- were bodyguards to Nick Fuentes at protests that literally protected him against Antifa, and what did he do? He threw them under the bus. Think what you want about Patriot Front, but you don't do that to people who are going to protect you from violence at rallies. That's very, cutthroat behavior. And then, one last thing I'll land here is I was pretty much done with him. I would give him the benefit of the doubt sometimes. He's a great speaker, I give him that, he's charismatic. But I was pretty much done with him when, Over those kids and those people in Wisconsin, and he may have hit some girls, like young, underage white girls. And he quote, he said, "Oh, who cares? They would have grown up to be mud sharks anyways. Like, that's just fucking disgusting. I'll just land on that, that's all. You can't be any more anti-white than that, that's all."↗

8:17:47Ian MalcolmAstro, if I, if I may, since it's, Mother's Day, the baby in your arm, I'm gonna presume that we're hearing is yours, and if so, again, happy Mother's Day. if you could envision, a, a change of course for the next twenty years so that your child grows up in a better tomorrow, what would be some of the core pieces, of that puzzle? And I ask 'cause we've got Dr. Michael Rector Walden here who's trying to, you know, essentially provide backing for↗

8:18:16Speaker 49Thank you. Yes, that is my child, and I just gave Michael a follow. obviously, we need more resources for white mothers with white kids to be able to stay home and have safety and security for that, because understandably, a lot of stay-at-home moms aren't gonna wanna do that if they have no real security, and obviously the economy. And, yeah, we need no more immigration because we can't afford it. That's pretty much all I can really say. That's, I wanna die for that every day. I, I don't, I'm scared for my- That sounds feature. That's all I have to say. That's, we're not gonna be able to get what we want if we don't do something soon, and that's all I gotta say about that.↗

8:18:56Ian MalcolmNo, and, and thank you for being here, and, and for what it's worth, for everybody that is listening in thinking, "Oh, what does it matter?" the little sound you heard in the background and that baby that she's holding is why this matters, right? And if you're trying to do it merely so that you can get a paycheck or clout↗

8:19:16Ian MalcolmYou're here for the wrong reason, right? This is about making the world a better place for other people. And, and David, I'd, I'd be curious for your thoughts, but, but that's, that's what motivates me. And I, I made a post, and this is totally inane and very Hollywood-driven, and most Hollywood is slop, although I do think Tom Cruise makes some wonderful movies. There is a line, and I'll see if I can find the post, in one of the Mission Impossible's where he says, essentially, it is for those that↗

8:19:47Ian MalcolmPossible mission force or whatever it is, right? That you're doing this for not just the things that you know and that you care about, but for the unknown and all the unknown that will follow. And if everybody can just orient themselves in that light, there's no way that we can lose. I, I sincerely believe that.↗

8:20:04Speaker 42I will say this, that even in my personal life, when someone starts talking about a very esoteric idea, they could be a computer scientist or whatever, I'll stop them and say If you don't tell me how this is going to make human life better, then none of it isn't gonna make any sense to me. So whatever you're doing, whether it's what you're doing or what diligent is doing with the citizen journalism, if the person has in mind how they're going to make life better, we're supposed to be defined by our loves and not our hatreds. And it's really important in this, in the context of this conversation, because when we think of a cult of personality, think of our founding fathers. They were all More redolent with incredible morals and personality than anybody in modernity could possibly be. I mean, they were just so individually awesome and interesting people, and yet Their movement was defined by ideas and not personality, and they were both to a man loyal, their faith to that idea was unwavering, they were very, very consistent, whether it be, you know, the rabble rouser of Samuel Adams or the very esoteric philosopher Thomas Jefferson with his great genius, or Benjamin Franklin with his wonderful personality and his, his inventiveness, but they were all very, very strongly in line with the principles to which they were loyal. And so I don't, if someone starts moving away from these, no, it's me and I'm the leader and, gosh, I'm the king of the cat people and it doesn't now, Epstein's a great guy and now don't think about this and now, hey, the enemy's pretty good, you know? They don't get it. It never was about them. You know, even the Tea Party movement, what was it about? It's about people upset about their lives, how to feed their children, how to-- whether they're going to be allowed to, to speak their mind, with, whether, or how to raise their kids, with whom to associate. Like they're being bullied in every direction, and they don't need somebody coming along and saying, "Well, I'm the leader of everyone because I agree with you." No, no, no, no. This movement is bigger than that. This is a great awakening. The first step in the awakening is We're in a matrix. You can't really go back, as I keep using the Truman Show analogy, you couldn't go back in and go, "No, no, I'll pretend this is all real and I'll stay here." So yes, absolutely, and if we think this way, think of this woman's child, think of that child fifteen years from now, you want that person to think of you as the greatest generation. So don't be afraid of speaking out, be afraid of not speaking out and then looking back and knowing, "Gosh, I could have been part of this great revolution I was afraid.↗

8:22:42Ian MalcolmNo, it's so, so beautifully stated there. And, Coyote, I see you got your hand up. And, and Astro, I just wanted to thank you again, Happy Mother's Day, and, and God bless Godspeed, especially to, to your newborn.↗

8:22:55Speaker 49Thank you. He just turned one. I'll let you guys go. I'll, I'll drop down.↗

8:22:58Ian MalcolmHappy birthday, happy Mother's Day.↗

8:23:00Speaker 49Thank you.↗

8:23:02Speaker 50Yeah, Mother's Day to everybody, man. Now, I think this is good, because I've never, I'm kind of a diligent person, like I've never understood after the Charlie Kirk thing, the guy that's supposed to be like it's Israel, it's like, it's, it's not just that, but, you know, Dan, Dan, he posted something the other day, that I looked at, and it's, of Nick talking about killing, like, bro, if you ever looked that up, his,↗

8:23:26Speaker 50his, his advice Tough love or no, that's some, some things are just, you know, you just don't do it that way. I'm, I'm fixing a post one, right now, and I know this is kind of, it's rather difficult too, Ian, because you get the mixing of, of all this, which I think the Gen, Gen Z ultimately needs to get the fuck away from this guy. This guy is, definitely not good. Never understood it from the, the white Mexican part.↗

8:23:53Speaker 50it's hard to be a, a white, Before and everybody else did. There's a lot of things, but I think it's troubling, when we do get to the point where it's like the things that should make your eyebrows, raise or whatever, they, they stop doing that, and the people stop reacting to certain shit, certain shit you just gotta react to and say, "Oh, that's fucked up," but, but that's kind of what we're getting away from, or turning, or dismissing real easy. But we'll get there, man. We just kinda, we need to, I don't know↗

8:24:31Speaker 50there's a lot of good things that, that are coming to be, I know a lot of people aren't gonna really understand it, but, you know, what's, what's ahead is inevitable, man. But good job, guys.↗

8:24:43Ian MalcolmNo, and appreciate that, Coyote and, a, a wonderful voice, often in diligent space, so always appreciate the, the pro-Americana. I, I see that we've got, CLG, let's go, there, and then we're gonna go with best of the Goy↗

8:25:00Speaker 51Hi everyone, thanks so much, Ian. It's like, it's like a quite a bit of, and it's very appreciated for all you do for us and the movement and all that. so thank you for that. so I'm Lori Price, I'm the treasurer of AzaPAC, the group that Michael, the PAC that Michael founded, he's a director. and I just wanna say as to the Florida six- District race, we have two pies in the oven, that's how we view it. We're allowed to,↗

8:25:33Speaker 51you know, contribute to different candidates, and that's, that's the situation we're in right now, and we're hoping that, you know, These viewpoints will be shared and all will happen, you know, with the outcome of that, and it is what it is, and like Michael said, more money will go there. and we also have a billboard campaign in Florida against Randi Fyne, that's really quite fantastic, has one of his tweets where he's mentioning Starve Away and to reject Randi Fyne. We're allowed to have advertising, against,↗

8:26:10Speaker 51certain candidates, we're, we're allowed to do that, and we also- I also have an ad for that as well that's out there, and we have video. So if anybody, I just wanna do one quick shameless plug, I'm not gonna say quite a bit here, but just if you'd like to support, you know, campaigns for these anti-Zionist candidates across the country, and you're a US citizen, US base address, please go to azaapac dot com and kick in if you can. It's tough in this economy with gas prices at almost five dollars a gallon, but if you can do it, you're in a position,↗

8:26:44Speaker 51In the middle, a z a hyphen p a c dot com, and then we can do more billboard campaigns against Randy Fine, who would be tough to remove, but as Michael once said, we can bring in a crane to remove him, politically speaking, and we can do other things. So I just wanna give a plug for Azapac and thank you for having the space, and I'll continue to listen here. Thank you very much.↗

8:27:07Ian MalcolmYeah, no, of course. let, let's go to, to Best and, and everybody should check out the, the Aspak, handle of course, doing wonderful work and, and Dr. Recknwald. do you actually, before we go to, Best of the Gentiles, Dr. Recknwald, do you wanna give just a, a quick little overview for anybody unfamiliar with the project or how they could, could support you guys?↗

8:27:28Speaker 48Yeah, sure. So what, what we are is the only, the first and only anti-Zionist political action committee in America. there has never been one, and there is no other. and, that means that we stand strictly on a principle of anti-Zionism, and our objective is to de-Zionize the US government. now- People, you know, people may use different language for the same phenomenon. That's the language that we use, that I think is most precise because, Zionists do include, you know, the Shabbos, Shabbos Goy, et cetera. So we do have a lot of that↗

8:28:10Speaker 48so Zionists takes in that whole net, it gets rid of people like Ted Cruz and, of course, I'm speaking figuratively in terms of politics now, of course, Randi Fine and Tom Cotton and, Brian Mast and, the whole panoply of, Zionist sh-shields and, You know, hucksters and, complete, they're completely subverted, these people. I don't, I don't know what's happened to them, you know, how deeply this ideology penetrates or what else is at work, the bribery, blackmail, et cetera, but the grip on these people is extreme. So they, they can't be reformed, these people themselves, they must be replaced. This is the, this is the philosophy of Azapac, replace these people, get rid of them and replace them with people that are for America only. Let's be really clear. It's, let's forget about America first, perhaps, and just go to America only. this way we don't have any confusion and those who wanna- Don't wanna go there, I guess that's their prerogative. Do, do what you want. But anyway, yeah, that's, that's our philosophy and, the-- we have supported, I think, to date, about sixteen candidates, and we donate to them, we, we give them advertising, support in their markets, et cetera. And, we're-- it, you know, we're, we're not gonna pull this off in one election cycle. I mean, this-- the opposition after- After all, has organizations at the Gazu. I mean, this, this is the most organized body of people on the face of the earth. They have immense organization,↗

8:29:53Speaker 48and that tells you how important that is. I-they know the importance of it, and so we need to know the importance, and we need to have organizations to wrest power back away from these people. That's, that's what they did. They used money, they used the other means to aggregate money, and then they pulled that money to get candid-- to, to buy the political class that would do their bidding in the Middle East and elsewhere. So that's what, that's what's up. And so, yeah, we needed to get-- our whole philosophy is to get rid of these people. I thought about a party, but parties, third parties don't nowhere in this country because of the, the way that the stat-- deck has been stacked, stacked by the establishment.↗

8:30:35Speaker 48party, the, you know, Zionist Yudam party, and as I said, you can refer to the same phenomenon differently. Bilzerian calls, calls it Jew, Jewish supremacy, supremacy, and that's th-thoroughly understandable, but we frame it a little bit differently for political purposes. So that's all I have right now. Thanks so much, Ian. Hey, no, and, and, and,↗

8:30:56Speaker 50okay. Real quick?↗

8:31:00Ian MalcolmYeah, real, real quick just to, to make a, a quick point off of that, and then we'll go right to you, Coyote, and then we'll go to the "Beasts of the Gentiles," which was just to say that in the same way that I sincerely appreciate- That I have a different tact or a different tone on these subjects, than Truth Teller, who talks about them differently than David, who talks about it differently than Diligent, who talks differently than Khan, differently from Dr. Recktenwald, differently from Dan Bilesarian, right? But we gotta recognize that just like any armed forces, and this isn't me advocating kinetic violence, rather just making a metaphor that everybody can relate to, right? We have all different branches that we need to play their parts in this intellectual war, right? And we need- We need to recognize that different pieces of that puzzle, maybe, you know, Diligen is aware of some of these things, but might soften the rhetoric around some of the unusual patterns because he's got an audience that is far wider, has a bigger audience, et cetera, than Dr. Michael Recktenwald, who might, change his tone to fit a more political nature, right? Because he's got to get donor class and all kinds of other things involved. There's, there's, there's legal issues, right? So this idea that one size needs to fit all and that Everybody needs to talk about this subject the same way. It's unreasonable. I hope people can recognize that there's all kinds of different iterations and, and, like diligent was mentioning before with me about that idea of moving people down a pipeline, right? People will critique Tucker Carlson and say, "Well, he doesn't say X, Y, and Z." Well, if he said those three things, maybe people would tune him out because they would think he was a crazy person, right? So everybody's playing a different piece in this big puzzle. We're all part of a big orchestra making this beautiful↗

8:32:42Ian MalcolmI love that Dr. Recktenwald is leading a political movement to do a big piece of this puzzle, and that we've got somebody that really understands the importance of, of verbiage and of word choice, and of, and of their, essentially the branding that they put behind their, their, their label, right? Because this is something that ten years from now might be a dominant political force if they just play their cards right. And I know that he is, 'cause he's a brilliant man, but Coyote Audio.↗

8:33:08Speaker 50Very, very well said, man. I appreciate that. This is important, and there are like little different, you know, little different level or however you wanna look at it on this, issue, because some people just, you know, some people could look up and can get on the internet and start looking up and see Jews everywhere. Like, I'm just saying, it's like they, they own a lot of shit, and, and you see 'em behind a lot of conspiracies and stuff like that, right? Conspiracy theorists. but some people like to say↗

8:33:37Speaker 50Myself or I can be around from your truth tellers to, to whoever, and, and it is important to understand like, you gotta meet people where they are, but ultimately it comes to this, man. you know what they're doing right there, this, this Zionism or what it, it is a big, a big deal, and what they've done is they're, they're mixing, exactly what the forefathers went against, that's what they're, they're-↗

8:33:58Speaker 50It's, they put theology and people are making, you know, a geopolitical headline into everything as an end time prophecy, some kind of miracle or whatever, and it's a bad, it's bad. People are, are getting killed behind it, people are getting, subverted, people are just, minds are getting, it's, it's, it's terrible. It's not feeling too good. Gro- groceries aren't going down, because of Zionism or Christian Zionism, whatever appeases the ears.↗

8:34:25Speaker 50but You know, take a good look at the panel, and, I see Mays is down there. It's, people, people talk differently about it, so don't get discouraged, when you go to look into this, 'cause you will, because it's coming. a-and when you start to, start to understand things, just, just, you know, don't go crazy with it at the same time. Just try to find your place. Don't, don't be so in-easily influenced. Oh, and Lucas Gage is a cut,↗

8:34:52Ian MalcolmI didn't say it. that was strange earlier, the piece on Israel and, Charlie Kirk. But hey, if nothing else, I try to always let any and everybody come up, and share their side, right? My, my sincere attempt here is to not generate an echo chamber 'cause it doesn't help anybody. and in fact, I wouldn't have learned anything about any of these subjects were it not for the fact that I do the exact opposite, and I wouldn't have met all these wonderful people that are up here. very, very hum↗

8:35:25Speaker 52Hey, Ian, thanks for having me up. Truth, David, much appreciated. Been listening to the, space in and out, I've been popping in and out all day. quite a fascinating space to hear everyone's, you know, take on, on it, and especially all the, the, you know, gapers or gropers out there. you know, with their deity that they, they hold up there as the leader of a movement. But, and, you know, I'll, I'll say this, I, I've been, in and out of a Nick Fuentes fan 'cause I like his hot takes,↗

8:36:02Speaker 52and he does, he has hot takes on these few questions, he's woke up a lot of people, but that's kind of really where it ends for me, he's not a leader. He's not a movement. He's a kid that has hot takes, that says what all of us are thinking. So awesome. He's, he's got skills as an orator and is, is able to talk and think fast and, and, and pull out facts and, and, and all that, but that doesn't make you a leader, as far as I'm concerned. He's de- he's divisive, he's a petulant Self-loathing little gay boy, and, we don't have to go into the gay thing, we all know, we've all seen the videos, like, you, you can't deny it. but I think what most people have a problem with is the fact that he says he's Catholic, espousing Catholic values,↗

8:36:52Speaker 52and then saying things are literally diametrically opposed to Catholicism. So, you know That, that just blows my mind that, that, that you can have that. But his, my problem, and, and this, this is just something that I noticed with him, with the whole exaltation of, of, the Epstein, his Epstein stance and how just retarded it was, him saying that all the Epstein girls were fourteen and above, this is the most, disingenuous and ignorant statement. We all know, that there were younger girls, than that.↗

8:37:32Speaker 52and what is subversive, about him and why he, he said that is, he goes and he uses, canon law, you know, Catholicism, to justify it. So in, if people don't know this, in 1983, canon law stated that fourteen-year-old girls, could consent as well as sixteen-year-old boys. So it, he's using that to say that it's all right, and the problem with that is, is really that law basically exists so that, you know, like, hey, I'm, I'm a seventeen-year-old boy and my girlfriend's, you know, fourteen and we wanna get married and we're in love, you know, no, these are forty, fifty, sixty, seventy-year-old men, fucking Excuse my language, fourteen year old girls, maybe fifteen year old girls, but they're, but they're also, you know, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen year old girls in, in there too as well. And let's not forget the, the little boys too that were, that were in there. So this is, this is how he, this is the, how subversive. He's very smart a- in using things like this. Oh, well, you know, in, in Catholicism, you can be fourteen and, and you can have sex. well, one, these canon law exists for marriage and having sex between a man and a woman for marriage purposes. This isn't canon law, motherfucker, okay? And this is what he does, this is the type of person that he is. He goes into a movement and does this to make everyone's brains like, you know, or, you know, freak out.↗

8:39:17Speaker 52and I just wanted to point that out as to, this is the, this is how smart he is. He's, he's a very smart boy, and that's what I'll use, he's a boy. He's not a man. He doesn't view women, with respect. He doesn't view you as respect, 'cause If you've all seen the video of him putting down the, the guy that was the blue collar worker that was swinging a hammer and, and hitting nails, he's putting that person down. He doesn't care, about the average Joe. He doesn't care, he, he only cares about himself. He's a narcissist. He, a-anytime that anyone platforms him, and I hate that word, I hate the word platform, but whether, you know, it'd be on, you know, PBD or Candace Owens or Tucker↗

8:40:09Speaker 52You know, whatever your views on all those people are, he goes and he shits on them afterwards. He uses them as a stepping stone to get his views out there, but then he shits on them. He's very smart, he's a subversive little petulant child, and that's where I'll end it.↗

8:40:25Speaker 50He uses like narrative seeding, if you ever listen, when he repeats the words, when he talks about some like crucial shit, it's pretty sick, man. It really, really is.↗

8:40:34Speaker 52It, it is. And, and, and the, the- He, the, the way that they hold, the, the, the gapers out there hold him up as a deity is the same way, like, I, I will say this, I, I've, I've said this in Truth Spaces many times before, I'm a three-time Trump voter, okay? Yes, you can call me a MAGA-tard, but I don't consider myself a MAGA-tard in the sense that I never supported Trump as the man. I supported the things that he said that he was going to do, and that excited me. Okay? I don't-- as soon as I saw last summer that he wasn't going to hit any of his agenda forty-seven bullshit, like I started turning and started calling him out and saying, "This is bullshit. Where are the Epstein files? Why are we, you know, going to war with Iran and doing Operation Midnight Hammer? Why aren't we not, you know, releasing the Epstein files? This is what these people do. They subvert,↗

8:41:35Speaker 52and..." Holding them in this, this, and exalting them up as if he was the, the-- he is the leader of, of the movement is different than what he really is. He noticed things and pointed it out. And that's what people rallied around. They rallied around the idea, okay? And the groypers out there, the gapers, as I like to call them, 'cause they are faggotards, they sit there and they support a man that has flip-flopped and has literally no moral compass.↗

8:42:14Speaker 52This is a terrible person. And I'll end it there.↗

8:42:20Ian MalcolmWell, and hopefully we can get a, an inverse opinion, perhaps somebody that has a, a more positive view and perspective on Fuentes. I know I, I did bring up another frog, I, I keep sincerely trying to. we've got, not Keith Woods, who I was very excited to hear from before, but we've got Keith Banks. Mr. Mr. Frogman, any thoughts on what was just shared, or anything else in the space so far?↗

8:42:47Speaker 46Hi, Ian. Thanks, thank you for having me on. Yeah, I, there's a lot to address, and there's a lot of accusations going around. And I, I think let's start with what, what, the last guy was just saying about the, 'cause one thing I keep hearing about is about the pedophile fourteen-year-old thing with Epstein. And I'm not gonna defend that, but-↗

8:43:15Speaker 46I, I will say that a lot of it's been sort of misconstrued. It's, if you ask the, if you ask the average person what Epstein's arrested for, they're gonna say, "Oh, he rapes children," or, you know, they're gonna say, "Uh, and, from as far as I, I know, he's never, he's not..." I don't know if the files said that, they've said about underage teenage girls, right?↗

8:43:42Speaker 46Am I wrong on that? Like, and like, there is a distinction, right, between-↗

8:43:46Speaker 44No, no, it's, it's literally called statutory rape. It's, it's rape by law because they're not old enough to consent, so it's literal rape. Well, I- Yeah, yeah, I think anyone that tries to make this distinction is doing so in a- Yeah, yeah, I don't want to duplicate this point. That's when, that's when it gets into the weeds of, you know, that's my point↗

8:44:03Speaker 52with him. He, he then goes on you know, of saying fourteen-year-old girls. So that way he can make it all right. Well, the Ca- the, the Catholic religion says it, it's all right. So like what Epstein was doing really wasn't, you know, bad. You know, he was, he was, he was, he was staying within canon law. You know what? But canon law↗

8:44:27Speaker 53or was it international law? 'Cause where was Epstein? No, it's, he quoted, I can pull↗

8:44:31Speaker 52up the video, he quotes canon law.↗

8:44:34Speaker 53That's, that's fine. But what I Let, let's, let's, does anyone know?↗

8:44:39Speaker 46Let's not forget though, and like, it's hard taking this position because this isn't a, I, I, I'm not gonna defend that. If that's what was said, I'm not gonna defend that, 'cause obviously, I mean, I got a fourteen year old son, and if anyone was saying, "Well, actually, this said that," I, I would be disgusted. But if, I mean, what he has said was that↗

8:45:01Speaker 46the, the, the general consensus is that he is a Prepubes- Oh, and it's like I said, this isn't a hill I wanna die on, but I, I think that we have to be specific in what he said. And he didn't say that it's okay, but he's just saying there is a distinction here, there is a difference, and there is, because there's a difference between my fourteen-year-old son and my nine-year-old son. There, there's, there's no↗

8:45:23Speaker 52dis-distinction between when you throw in a fourteen-year-old girl with a fifty-five-year-old man. I'm sorry.↗

8:45:31Speaker 46Look, well That, that's not my argument though. But that, that is, that is actually Nick's↗

8:45:37Speaker 52argument.↗

8:45:37Speaker 43Yeah, but see, this is exactly the point of what Nick does. We're talking about this instead of talking about the problem. This is the whole point of it.↗

8:45:45Speaker 52Yes, and he uses, and he uses canon law To, to, to justify it and make it okay. And I can-- If you're saying he didn't say this, I will pull up the video and post it in the purple bill. You can go look this shit up. And,↗

8:45:58Ian Malcolmand, and hang, hang on, to go back to Keith, who I think has been very, very reasonable. Keith, I think, I think that-- So one of the challenges is, it's kind of twofold. Number one is the what was said, and, and I've listened, and it's, it is kind of hard to hear from Nick Fuentes, but I appreciate that this is a guy who spends hours and hours almost every single day recording content, so obviously there's gonna be some things that, that are slip-ups and that maybe he didn't phrase exactly the way that he should've or intended to or whatever. The, I think that's a good point.↗

8:46:28Speaker 46I think it's a very good point. The↗

8:46:29Ian Malcolmthing that's weird though is a lot of the, the groupers that would come up Refuse to condemn it and instead, and, and I saw this in a space with Tony, where instead they wanted to play pill pole over the definition of pedophilia rather than just saying, "Obviously that was a really dumb comment." And it's actually the latter piece that I find more frightening when it comes to the fan base of the one, which is maybe more concerning than just the prospective slip of the tongue that he may be made a, you know, wrong statement that maybe he regretted in the aftermath, you know?↗

8:46:59Speaker 43Well, it's not totally a slip of the tongue when you know↗

8:47:01Ian Malcolmhe's selling↗

8:47:03Speaker 46If I can interject, okay, well, look, I think the sweatshirt thing was a troll, and I think that was kind of to, to do with the, the Good Morning Britain, that kind of crowd, he was trying to sort of-- I think it's, I think that's sort of just a troll, but, okay, I don't think I ever heard him say it's okay. I think he's just trying to↗

8:47:22Speaker 46be realistic. And it's like with the Charlie Kirk thing, I actually really disagree with him about Charlie Kirk. To me, I mean, it's It's cotton mustad written all over it. But is a 16-year-old↗

8:47:31Speaker 44man having sex with a 14-year-old pedophilia, Keith?↗

8:47:37Speaker 46I, I think it's, yeah, to me, that's pedophilia, it's wrong. So then, then you are in direct,↗

8:47:41Speaker 44you are in direct conflict with Nick Fuentes' position. Well↗

8:47:47Speaker 46Alright, it's, he says it's not really pedophilia,↗

8:47:49Ian MalcolmI mean, Verbal,↗

8:47:51Speaker 46well,↗

8:47:51Ian Malcolmbut, but hang on, I, I think what, what perhaps is the, the statement is that the definition of pedophilia might slightly vary. Dill, and for what it's worth, I agree with you completely, by the way. I, I don't even know why anybody would argue the distinc-distinction on it. Are we,↗

8:48:05Speaker 50we- Why did you bring it up? That was my thing with it. It's one of those things you just don't do,↗

8:48:13Speaker 46you There is one point I want to make that we have to remember that Nick has never had an allegation. I mean, there are so many streamers who have gone down for, for talking to- But you're taking it up,↗

8:48:27Speaker 50up for it in a way like, "Oh, Nick, you know what I'm saying? But that↗

8:48:29Speaker 52really doesn't have anything to do with it at all. He's going- I think you're making it sound like, like I'm saying that Nick is a pedophile. I'm not saying Nick's a pedophile. His support of pedophilia is,↗

8:48:41Ian Malcolmyou know, Well, you know what?↗

8:48:57Speaker 46I don't↗

8:48:59Ian Malcolmthink he's ever, celebrated that. Just to be very clear, right? I, I, this is the point. I don't think Nick ever supported that. I think that he was just, he Like I just wanna be very clear. He's right. But this, this↗

8:49:16Speaker 52is- Yes, yes. Basically, he normalized it. You don't,↗

8:49:20Speaker 46you don't take, do you know, do you know why he did this though? Because, well, I think one of the reasons was, do you understand how much more you will know than the average person? If you go up to the average person and say something about politics, they will have no idea. They couldn't tell you what different levels of government are. Now, when someone goes, "Oh, I hate," you know? Certain people from a certain country, because they did this or he did this, they can go, "Hang on a minute, he never did that to a child." That was one of the main points Nick was making, was that we have to be, we have to be factual here. And my point was that The average person goes, "Oh, he ate children," and, you know, you know what I mean? Like they, they go, "It was all little babies or little kids." And his point is like, we have to be realistic here of what, what, what, what it was he did. I'm not defending that point. Like I said, I've got two teenage boys. You understand?↗

8:50:07Speaker 43My problem with that is like, how do you, if he's so super-- He's such a super serious↗

8:50:14Speaker 43guy, right? But he's such a super serious guy, he wants us to I know, I know. That's exactly what you're hitting on right there.↗

8:50:26Speaker 46He, he's an unserious kid. And, and yes, we have to make money, and he's an↗

8:50:31Speaker 44intern. That's-- You↗

8:50:31Speaker 46don't have to make money↗

8:50:32Speaker 44that way. Keith, Keith, Keith, can we agree that cultural taboos are in place in society for a reason? Well, I think that's what he's trying to shatter, right? Well, well, well, well, hold on. I don't, I don't want him to shatter that. What's he trying to shatter? Hold on, no, you're, you're actually making my point. Well, hold on, hold on, this is, this is awesome. So, oh, sorry, I thought you were, I thought you were alluding to that. No, no, no, you hit it on the head, and, and I realized that you're,↗

8:51:06Speaker 44you're Pedophilia because it's not okay behavior by society needs to-- it's a, it's a behavior that needs to be culturally rejected by society, and people who conduct themselves in such a way need to be labeled pariahs and outcasts from society. That's why the label of pedophilia is applied to individuals who behave in such a way. When you have individ- guys like Fuentes who have massive platforms with the youngest, most, most- Influenced generation, right? Impressionable generation, within, within our demographics in society, in our society, telling you that the label of a pedophilia doesn't apply to guys who sleep with fourteen-year-olds, he's shattering that protective taboo that needs to be in place. You just said it yourself. That's why I said- Well, that's↗

8:52:00Speaker 46not what, that's not what↗

8:52:01Speaker 44I- Thank, thank you, diligent↗

8:52:02Speaker 52for, for articulating that. My, my other problem with it is, is that, None of the groypers ever shame him or they, they support him as if he is a god amongst gods. Like, well, now you're just, right.↗

8:52:20Speaker 43Exactly. I think it's worse than with Trump, I, I don't see that, that level of sycophancy with Trump supporters really. Literally,↗

8:52:26Speaker 53all groypers in here are people that you haven't met my↗

8:52:29Speaker 52dad if you haven't met, okay, yeah, okay, yeah. I live in New York, so yeah. Before we move on, before we move on, can I just↗

8:52:32Speaker 53interject here because there Say that, just s- you sound retarded. Best.↗

8:52:43Speaker 46Alright, well, I just wanna touch, I just wanna get back to- Okay. I, I, I, I sound retarded. Okay, whatever. No, I didn't say that. No, no, I just, I just wanna get back to what I was- Go↗

8:52:52Speaker 53ahead, finish.↗

8:52:53Speaker 46Wh- wh- who, who, who called me retarded? W- when I said- Oh, another groypur. Of course. I'm sorry. Like, you haven't been called up as a speaker↗

8:53:02Speaker 52yet, so like, stay out↗

8:53:06Speaker 46I, I just wanna go back to when I said about shattering cultural norms. I was referring specifically to the, the jacket that's being sold, not about, not the↗

8:53:14Speaker 44pedo↗

8:53:14Speaker 46shit. Cultural norms, cultural↗

8:53:16Speaker 44taboos. Actually, you're trying to create a cultural norm here, right? That's when somebody-- I think, can I speak for a second? I think,↗

8:53:23Speaker 43I think maybe what he's trying to say is he's trying to-- he, that he thinks Nick was trying to, normalize talking about Jeffrey Epstein maybe by selling these sweatshirts.↗

8:53:34Speaker 50Is that-- Yeah, I know, I'm not saying it, man. I'm saying, I'm trying to↗

8:53:38Speaker 46understand his thinking. Yeah, who cares the reasoning? If I, if I can speak, I'll go ahead, Keith. I'll give, I'll give my two cents on that. I think, I think that the average person thinks that we are so far beyond help, and we are so-- Everyone in here, do you realize any-- If this got leaked to anyone's employees, you'd probably be fired, right? That's how crazy the norms are. I, I bought my brother a hat, a↗

8:54:05Speaker 46White guy's Harris hat. My dad begged me not to give it to him, 'cause my whole family are like, you know, very liberal, whatever. That's, that's the level that we're dealing with here. And I think w-with the whole, like, I'm not, I'm not gonna defend that. All right, what we're trying to circle back to is that the jackets, the jacket, go, I just wanna touch on this quickly. I was trying to say you kick the overton↗

8:54:27Ian Malcolmwindow really hard by doing things that are ridiculous, and then you can normalize things↗

8:54:33Speaker 46Basically, but that wasn't, that wasn't what I was referring to. That's what I said. He said no, I wasn't referring to the fourteen-year-old thing. I'm not gonna ever defend that. I was just talking about the jackets. But also, look, I think we can agree on the, the fourteen-year-old thing. I don't think, but do you see what supporting Nick where it↗

8:54:48Speaker 43puts you? Like, what, what, what you're-- No, you were,↗

8:54:52Speaker 44you were just agreeing with the position at the beginning of your, of your bit, right?↗

8:55:03Speaker 44position, that, not that it's okay, but that it's not pedophilia, right? He's moving the Overton Window as Ian correctly asserted. Did↗

8:55:12Speaker 46he say, did he say it's not pedophilia? One hundred percent. He said it's not↗

8:55:16Speaker 44actually pedophilia. He says it's ephilia. Okay. In a technical sense, he said it on Rumble,↗

8:55:20Speaker 50went on Alex Jones,↗

8:55:22Speaker 46Florida↗

8:55:22Speaker 50show and doubled down.↗

8:55:23Speaker 44I posted it when he said it, and he ended up blocking↗

8:55:26Speaker 46me over it. He blocked everyone. I disagree with that. I think, I think so to me, you know, if, if you're under eight, like under eighteen, it, it's hands off, but the, the law disagrees with you and I. The law puts it into categories of like something like under, it was like under nine, nine, twelve, twelve, four. Yeah, the thing is, Jeffrey Epstein's a predator. He doesn't need you↗

8:55:46Speaker 50rationalizing it. It's no need for it. It's like, when you get a platform that size, you just don't do shit like that. You gotta be conscious of what you're doing and being↗

8:56:00Speaker 44Is a, an adult sleeping with a fourteen-year-old is it pedophilia to you?↗

8:56:08Speaker 44your opinion, your position, is that your position, yes or no? Yeah. So you're in conflict with, you're in conflict↗

8:56:16Speaker 46with Niko's position. I don't think Niko would say, "Look, it's, it's pedophilia, it's a crime." The hesitancy, the hesitancy in his, like, yeah. As they say online, you just did the meme. Anyway,↗

8:56:37Speaker 42well, I think it's wrong, but the↗

8:56:44Speaker 44law↗

8:56:49Speaker 42would-- The law would-- Hey, I wanted to say that, For everyone else, and there would have been that, oh, gross, like, I can't believe I'm hearing this. Yeah, well, I agree. And this is the same thing here, right? You're delaying the thing. It's no difference, it's zero↗

8:57:08Speaker 46different. Yeah, but my point is with all this, 'cause I don't, I, I've never heard Nick actually say doing the thing. You, you, you need to go watch his videos↗

8:57:16Speaker 52then. Anyway, Nea, Ian, David, Rabbi, thanks for having me up. I'm but, there's really, there's really no argument left to be made, for this kid. So, thanks for having me up, I appreciate it.↗

8:57:34Ian MalcolmNo, and, and I, I wanna give a big shout out to, Mr. Truth Teller, who is just one of the absolute best on this application. If you are into health and wellness, he's hosting a space on it right now. he also hosts spaces almost every single day on the Iran conflict, Jeffrey Epstein, and he does a ton, and it's interesting, 'cause On the Jews. Well, no, he doesn't. He talks about the history and the power structure and all the things that we're discussing here, but he also does a ton of spaces on health, on wellness, on medicine, on all kinds of ways to make yourself a better person living in this sickly world that we find ourselves in, and how we can help, to improve it. And so I, I, I just wanna advocate that one of the biggest things that he talks about is for individual accountability. This machine isn't going to end because of a chosen hero who's gonna ride in Horse, right? We have to ultimately take this all into our own hands, not advocating kinetic violence, but we gotta do our own individual parts, and one of the biggest pieces of that is of course, being of sound mind, body, and soul. So if you do care about your health and wellness, he's got that space, open. I will certainly be going there to listen in once we wrap this up. but lots of love to him, he was in here, of course, co-hosting with us. I also wanna give a big shout out to Mr. from one of the other co-hosts who had to drop down. And, and Ravi, I'd be very curious 'cause I know that you've always got some audio lined up, so perhaps what we could do, if you could find two things, we could play those in a little bit. Number one would be a little musical jingle in case the tensions get high. Number two, if you could find the clip of Nick Fuentes talking about how Jeffrey Epstein was not committing pedophilia, if I'm, if I'm properly pedo- This whole↗

8:59:18Speaker 54pedophilia thing, but I guess I'm being forced to say it, it's not really pedophilia, okay? They weren't trafficking five-year-olds, it was like they were technically not legal. Big, big difference, in my opinion. I know that's a controversial take, but that's not really the issue there, okay? The issue isn't that they were barely legal teens, which is↗

8:59:50Speaker 54What it is? It's horrendous, it's awful, it's pedophilia. Okay, relax. no, the issue is that Epstein is a Jewish spy, probably working with Israel. That's the dilemma there. He's working with Israeli intelligence.↗

9:00:07Speaker 44So there you go.↗

9:00:09Ian Malcolmso, and for what it's worth, yeah, a, that's crazy. i-it's trying to minimize the severity of the crime that is, what I would loose-- I, I don't know why anybody would argue the use of the term pedophilia. When, when you see the photos of Jeffrey Epstein and of, of these other prominent individuals with little children around them, I don't know what else you would call that. but there is something also to be said that if you get lost in the sauce, I suppose, of talking about the pedo- And are overlooking the connection to Israel, then, that obviously isn't ideal. I think he↗

9:00:45Speaker 44added the Israel thing to give his audience what they wanted. He's, he's, he's feeding the cultural, he's destroying the cultural taboo, but it's okay because I just talk shit about Jews and Israel, right? That's what he's doing. I was saying the same thing.↗

9:00:59@malleusigYeah. That's, that's kind of what I, what I got. It's subversive. He's kind of soft walking it at this point. And the thing is If anyone was paying attention when it first came out, you saw plenty of people saying they said they were trafficking actual children there. Now, you may look at Virginia Gif-Giffray and like pretend that she's the only person that was trafficked, and she was like what, fourteen, fifteen at the time, but she wasn't the one that was trafficked. We had plenty. We had one guy say that he saw, he saw a child, like a body of a child, being, dressed up like a turkey to be served to people. Alright? There's all kinds of crazy shit, though, they said to happen down there. It's not just limited to fourteen-year-old girls who are crying out loud.↗

9:01:45Speaker 46Well, also, how long has this stuff been going on for, under the noses of, and, and been allowed to go on for as well? I mean He's been going back decades, right, doing this shit. Well, look at,↗

9:01:55@malleusiglook at, look at Maxwell,↗

9:01:56Ian Malcolmlook at Robert↗

9:01:57@malleusigMaxwell. Well, let's not forget they literally↗

9:01:59Ian Malcolmcaught him the first time, and the intelligence community said we can't do anything because he works for a foreign government. Like that literally was essentially how it went. And then they let the fish go, and then the fish did the exact same thing the fish did the first time around, and then the administration tried to cover up for it. It, it is utter insanity that this has all happened for what it's worth.↗

9:02:20@malleusigHe, and it just goes, it's↗

9:02:22Speaker 46like so... Because you ask yourself like, why does someone like Ted Cruz come out and say something like, "I joined, I, I became a congressman or whatever, simply to defend his..." Like, what would make you say that? Like, why wouldn't you say that about England or Canada? But why is it... So it's like, how far does this go? I mean, if, if the Prince of England is tied up with this, then is it, is it a stretch to say that? Just about every politician is, but I, I suppose one of the reasons, the main reason I wanted to join today was 'cause I, I just,↗

9:02:56Speaker 46there's one, you know, there's one group that love this, seeing this, and like, we can all be, we can all be disgusted with some of the things that, or hurt by things that Nick said, but fuck, there is, you, we, we all know that there is a group that love this division, and they love the fact that everyone, I mean, there are some people out there that would love, not if they↗

9:03:16Ian MalcolmAnd for what it's worth, Rabbi, just to, to further validate the comments made there about the first time, this is from Uncommon Sense, '76, I'm sure everybody's familiar with this account. couple crazy things that happened the first time that Epstein was caught trafficking girls. Let me read that again. The first time he was caught trafficking girls, number one, Barry Krischer, who, yes, is from that tribe, was the state prosecutor associated with the sabotaging of the state's Case, he was also the one that made sure Epstein got to sleep in his own bed every night with a sweetheart deal that didn't require him being involved with other people in a large traditional facility. Number two, Epstein was liable for both state and federal charges. However, what about the federal case? Well, the DOJ chose not to prosecute him for federal crimes. The DOJ attorney representing Florida at the time was Alexander Acosta. According to him, he was told to, quote, unquote, "lay off of Epstein because he was intelligence." One can only assume, end quote, one can only assume Acosta got this message from the above if true, which would begat the question, who was the head of the DOJ at the time? Would you be surprised if it was Michael Mukasey, who, yes, is also part of the same tribe of people? That was the first time Jeffrey Epstein was caught. Like, everybody should think about what that means and what it means about the entire apparatus of the, the force that is supposed to be protecting the country and prosecuting criminals, but also this idea that this is being overlooked and somehow minimized the, the severity of the ties to this group of people into Israel and the fact that it was underage minor girls. There's nothing about this that was just "Call girls from Las Vegas" or something along this. This was, this, this was pedophilia without, without-- Your, your other- playing Pilpil around the use of the term, which is just bizarre.↗

9:05:17Speaker 46Was that Chris Hansen clip that just came out with, Netanyahu's ex-chief of security real? I saw that yesterday, was that real?↗

9:05:26Ian MalcolmWell, hang on, I've seen people suggest that it is, that he was a police officer, who i-is it, one individual, I can't, his name is scaring me at the moment. I saw him post that it was tied to Israel, I saw community notes say that it wasn't, and then I've subsequently seen news articles suggesting that in fact he is tied to Israel. So it, it seems like there's a little bit of gray, and somebody should try to figure out with certainty what that is.↗

9:05:53Speaker 53Alleg- allegedly he was hired as part of a security team for Netanyahu. Yeah. He was↗

9:05:58@malleusigtied directly to Netanyahu's security team. He mentioned in- Chris Hansen mentioned it in the video.↗

9:06:02Speaker 53Yeah.↗

9:06:03@malleusigAnd the guy, the guy reacted exactly as you would expect an Israeli to react, like, "I, like I said, gangster, I react. I give you, I'm gonna give you nothing until my lawyer gets here." Yeah, he did. Yeah, yeah, I↗

9:06:12Speaker 53wanna- The guy knew when he was gonna come↗

9:06:17@malleusigout here. He had sunglasses on and everything. That's such a point↗

9:06:20Speaker 50Hey Ian, just to tell some of the newer people that, that I've seen in your comments, some of them were looking to listen to the space again, just, hit it a bookmark and, go check it out or go check out Ian's page after the space to be recorded, or you can go to Spaces dashboard. but yeah, bookmark it and go check it out later, you'll, you'll be able to hear the whole thing.↗

9:06:42@malleusigSo what was the verdict on, Bilzerian and, Lucas Gage? I missed all that, so I came in briefly and then I, I had to miss it though.↗

9:06:50Ian MalcolmWell, so the long and short, it feels like a couple things to reset as a, as a, a set of bullets. I feel like we did a nice job getting a decent representation from both sides of the equation. I do feel like because of the fact that we had Dan Bilzerian specifically in here, it feels like he had a little bit A bit more, sympathetic and supportive of a speaker panel than perhaps the Fuentes crowd, although I've, I've tried Rabbi on multiple occasions to ask the Groypers to send some of their people. but, we, Bilzerian, I think, did a very, reasonable job discussing his, his campaign, what he's looking to do. We also heard from Aaron Baker, who's also running in the same district. There were some pieces of his campaign that sound great, some other things that people kind of maybe scratch their head about, but we did Fireworks, with certain personalities that came in, and it's pretty easy to predict who that would be based on the lines that have been seemingly drawn over the last seventy-two hours in the camps that, everybody's familiar with online. But, I, I, I do think that we've seen, w-what we've learned from this is a lot of, a, a lot about Bilzerian. We learned a little bit about Fuentes and some of his positions, like the one that we're just maybe critiquing right now.↗

9:08:13Speaker 44We lose him, Ian?↗

9:08:15Ian MalcolmOh yeah, cut me off again. is, is the reality that there is clearly going to be a detriment to everybody that is trying to jointly move this, this mission forward. And, and Rabbi, I'm kinda curious for your thoughts on this, because the one thing I do know with absolute certainty is that Nick Fuentes taking whoever he has influence of and sabotaging Dan Bilekarian as best they can by, you know, throwing up endless negative clips, by routinely- Counter-signaling, which is a term the Groypers seem to love to use about anybody critiquing Nick Fuentes, right? You can see how that could be weaponized against Bilzerian in a way that's extremely counterproductive for everybody, which would then beget the obvious question, what are the motivations, right?↗

9:08:54Speaker 44Yeah. Yeah.↗

9:08:55Ian MalcolmThe- Yet↗

9:08:56Speaker 44again, another example and a pattern of behavior.↗

9:09:00@malleusigI have my own criticisms of what the way, not Bazarin himself, but the way he's running his campaign, which we talked about before, and I'm not gonna belabor them because I don't wanna, I don't wanna be negative about his, his campaign. But Keith, you gotta, whatever↗

9:09:14Speaker 44it is,↗

9:09:16@malleusigwhatever it is, whatever it is that Nick is saying about him, I don't think is that. I think it's something different. He's spreading rumors about him wanting to talk about assassinating politicians or something, if I remember right. That was the claim? No,↗

9:09:30Speaker 44it was,↗

9:09:33Ian Malcolmno, that, that, that was a claim by Nick Puentes that echoed by Lucas Gage, who was in here earlier. And for what it's worth, Dan Bilzerian did say that when he has people over, that he does, often have them leave their phones and, if I remember correctly, that people are required or, or requested, I should say, or some people are requested to sign NDAs about Things that they might see, which for what it's worth, for individuals that are at that level of prominence, of fame and of wealth, I don't know if that's all that abnormal, in the grand scheme of things.↗

9:10:11Ian MalcolmWhat's that, Coyote?↗

9:10:12Speaker 50You heard of that before? But, but I don't, like, weird or not, I don't know. I've never been there.↗

9:10:20@malleusigYou're rugging, Coyote. Yeah, you're right, man. I don't, I don't, I don't know about like how normal it is for that. For me, like, the issue isn't the normality of, of signing an NDAA when you talk to people who are like rich and famous. For me, frankly, it's about if, even if, like, even if someone wanted to talk about that,↗

9:10:40@malleusigI mean, in the context of Israel literally killing one of our presidents, how deplorable is it exactly? Right, I mean, understand, if you were actually serious about you trying to find someone to kill him, yeah, horrible, like, you know, you committed a crime. But if it's just like locker room talk, then I'm not seeing a huge issue here, even if it was true.↗

9:11:02@malleusigAnd the whole, like, you guys know where I'm at with Lucas Gage. Gage, for me, has always been one of these like, he's one of these like boulder types, he's wrecking ball types. Where he's, he's good to move the Overton window and like, uhm, pretty much nothing else. He's good to kind of like drag the Overton window a little bit further to the right, but he never accomplishes anything because he's just like too much of a spurt.↗

9:11:29Ian MalcolmSo, so Rabbi, there were a little bit of fireworks because, it seemed like he was Unwilling to accept that in spite of a massive amount of evidence, of prospectively Israeli or Jewish involvement in the Charlie Kirk shooting, that it was unreasonable to suggest that there was, let, let's say a reason to not say that it's unreasonable to think that there would be a connection between the two, which was kind of Nick Fuentes'- Yeah, just a spec.↗

9:11:54@malleusigOh, he's getting paid. He's getting paid then. Like, like anyone who has half a brain who's looked at what happened to Charlie Kirk, at least- Can hold it fifty-fifty in their minds that maybe it was Israel. For him to suggest that it was, for him to say that it was unreasonable to think that Israel did it, it's just pure nonsense.↗

9:12:13Speaker 46That, that is nonsense, but there is no evidence that Mossad did it at all. But you, you don't tell↗

9:12:17Speaker 44people that, you don't exclude, you don't exclude possibilities,↗

9:12:21Speaker 46right? When, when I think Mossad, I think Mossad, yeah, you don't think Mossad probably radicalized the guy. You don't just write Mossad off. Like the, the world's most famous assassins↗

9:12:31@malleusigof politicians.↗

9:12:34Speaker 46I agree. But Nick's going from the evidence, and don't forget Nick did have some crazy liberal evidence. Wait, hold on. Evidence.↗

9:12:39Speaker 44What evidence is↗

9:12:40Speaker 46he going↗

9:12:40Speaker 44from? I haven't heard him bring any evidence. Yeah.↗

9:12:44Speaker 46For what?↗

9:12:44Speaker 44His position that Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk at the exclusion of anybody else. What evidence has Nick? Well, I mean, I'm not the evidence. What evidence? If you could just let me finish asking, if you could just let me finish asking, hold on, hold on. What evidence? Has Nick brought to support his position that Tyler Robinson was the lone gunman killing Charlie Kirk? Has he brought any evidence? He's using the FBI. That's what the FBI is using. But obviously the, the FBI and what's been released to the public, it was compelling enough for Nick to take a position. So we can't deflect, we can't deflect blame onto the FBI for his adoption of a position. You're a Groypers, you watch him. Has he offered any reasons or any evidence? He found to be compelling that convinced him to adopt that position.↗

9:13:34Speaker 46Well, I mean, all the evidence says that, like the, the FBI evidence says that. All↗

9:13:40Speaker 44you, you're just repeating, dude. What, what have, have-- Is there not a, a plethora of public evidence available? Right, video feed of what happened in the day, right? Like we have, we have, have you not seen TPUSA employees removing the SD cards from the camera located right behind Charlie? Yeah, I don't have. Okay, so then we have seen a lot of evidence suggest that there is foul play that had nothing to do with Tyler Robinson that happened during Charlie Kirk's assassination. But the official↗

9:14:09Speaker 53narrative, but the official- So you don't need↗

9:14:11Speaker 44to, you don't have to deflect onto the FBI when there's a shit ton of publicly available evidence out there, and Nick is probably- Right Dick is probably one of the best orators and, and of, of logic that I've seen, right? I have respect for him in this regard. But for him to adopt a position that the evidence doesn't support, that's what I'm saying. What, what evidence has he offered his audience to say, "This is why I support this," or is it, "The FBI says so"? Which, which one is it? To↗

9:14:41@malleusigbe honest, I↗

9:14:43Speaker 44don't↗

9:14:43@malleusigknow. Well, he's not, he's not an investigator. This isn't his thing. He doesn't care that much about-↗

9:14:52@malleusigWe're asking you↗

9:14:56@malleusigmake, wait↗

9:15:14Speaker 53How come none of you guys are saying this is what he told us? This is, this is, you're, you're,↗

9:15:19Speaker 44you're deflecting, you're avoiding the question. Has he sh-told you why he's taken that position, yes or no?↗

9:15:25Speaker 46Well, I, it's, I mean, I've got about months now, but I think he said that all the evidence that he's seen points to Tyler Robinson, which does, but I don't, I don't necessarily believe. I mean, I think what evidence,↗

9:15:40@malleusigwhat evidence points towards Tyler Robinson?↗

9:15:43Speaker 46Well, you know, the, the, coroner report, the, the coroner report is not public, the coroner↗

9:15:48Speaker 44report↗

9:15:49@malleusigcontradicts Tyler Robinson. Hold on. There, there, there isn't a coroner report that's↗

9:15:53Speaker 44publicly available yet that's in the trial. There was a surgeon that sent a text to Andrew Colvet, right? Our conversation, there was a text from, from Andrew Colvet and a conversation that happened between Erica Kirk and the surgeon who allegedly did surgery on Charlie Kirk post, post-shooting. And live one, you got a hot mic, what's going on here? Mute your fucking mics if you're not speaking, please. You got a lot of background music, noise. Alright, thank you.↗

9:16:26Speaker 44He said that the bullet got lodged in his neck, right, which we found out later was all utter bullshit. So, you mean↗

9:16:33Speaker 46the, the magic,↗

9:16:34Speaker 44the magic, yeah, the magic bullet, right? Exactly, the miracle bullet. But b-besides the point, that's not an ME report. There isn't no ME report publicly available, right? There's been a lot of conjecture, a lot of leaks, a lot of mainstream media spin, but as far as hard evidence goes, there's been nothing that ties Tyler Robinson to the scene of that crime. Not one fucking↗

9:16:58Speaker 46thing. Not one. Do you know how I said before about how the average normie sees us and, and I think what Nick's trying to get to is that if we, one thing I, I really would love Dan to win, but he's got no chance. He, he terrifies the average woman, he terrifies the average normie, boomers look at him and they, they love his route and they just go, "Wow." he even looks crazy. I, I think he looks, I think he looks very, like, funny, but, or, he looks like a badass, but the average normie, they're scared of him. And then, then he gets on and he seems pissed off and he seems like he's full of rage and he's turning red. I, I like it, but the average person doesn't. So what Nick's doing with all of this stuff is he's just trying to get us in line that you go, "Okay, w-when you're in a debate with someone who knows↗

9:17:45Speaker 46You have the actual facts on your side or, or at least evidence to pull up, whether it's right or wrong, you can go, "Here, here you go." And I think that's like, that's his thing with Hal Robinson. And look, we both agree, so far we both agree, I'm, I am being a devil, devil's advocate here, but we agree on everything. But I'm just trying to, like, show you what I think Nick's point is. Nick is trying, he, he, he wants to, he realizes that we can't- Ever get anywhere without support. And Dan-- and as much as I love Dan, I mean, he's divisive. Or the-- Okay,↗

9:18:21Speaker 42hold on here. There's a mistake in your logic here. He's saying, his, his statement was a statement of exclusion. He was saying that there are no-- that anybody who thinks about anything else but Tyler Robinson Is low IQ. Now, this is a ridiculous statement. It is in fact a very unintelligent statement, ironically. It's a low IQ statement. I agree, but we don't have to agree with my- Yeah, oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. We're not talking about whether we agree on everything, Keith. What we're talking about is why, what would be possibly the motive for someone to be excluding this possibility when clearly, and we're talking about someone?↗

9:19:03Speaker 44Sacrifice all of your sacred cows now, people. Every single one of you. Yeah. We can't afford to have them in twenty twenty-six. Sacrifice them.↗

9:19:11Speaker 46If he's, if he's working for someone or like, I mean, they're fucking not treating him very well 'cause he's banned from everything. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not how that works, though. That's↗

9:19:20@malleusignot how Listen, Keith, stand topic, okay? David asked you a very, very sensible question. What would, what exactly is justification for making a statement of exclusion that says that if you believe that Israel Kochel and Kirk, you are some low IQ imbecile, okay? There is no evidence to support that. There is no evidence that you, we can in any way right- And instead of answering why evidence isn't there, you change the subject. Dude, diligent, diligent, diligent doesn't- Please, just, just give me a second. Sorry, okay? That's right. But like, there↗

9:19:52@malleusigDidn't do it, literally. There's no, like, and that's what he's asking us to believe, okay? You have to look at the statement he made, and you have to, you have to approach it logically. He's asking us to say to ourselves that there is no evidence at all, sorry, that there is a preponderance of evidence that Israel didn't do it, and there isn't none of that, okay? You can come back and say, "There's no evidence that Israel did do it," which is false. There's no proof that Israel did it, but there Yes, there's motive. 'Cause there's, all right, exactly, there's plenty of motive. Okay,↗

9:20:24Speaker 46well,↗

9:20:24@malleusigso yeah, go↗

9:20:26Speaker 46ahead. But what I was saying was, okay, well, what I was trying to say was that, you know, I wasn't trying to move on, move on. What I, what my point was, is that he's trying to, from what, from what I've listened to, he's, he's trying to like not get lost in the weeds here, and he's trying to just keep Go with, I mean, he's saying, I mean, I, I, I can't agree with what he said, I, I do think Israel did it, but, and don't get me wrong, I mean, that's, we're, we're probably-↗

9:20:52Speaker 44Are you afraid to say that to your peers? Yeah, it sounds like you don't agree with him,↗

9:20:57Speaker 43but you're trying to agree with him.↗

9:20:59Speaker 44I, I'm, I'm just curious, no, no, it's not that. Are you afraid to say to you, do you guys, I don't know if you Would you say that to, to a group of your peers? Would you say that I, I, I disagree with him on this? I think he's wrong about this.↗

9:21:15Speaker 48Is this, is this a hostage situation? Well, a↗

9:21:17Speaker 44lot of,↗

9:21:18Speaker 46a lot of his, a lot, you know, a lot of people in the super chats say it. Do you speak directly to other↗

9:21:23Speaker 43groupers? Nah, I don't really. Okay, so. So you're not really inside the cult then. Well, I mean, I'm sure there's like,↗

9:21:33Speaker 44you↗

9:21:33Speaker 43know,↗

9:21:33Speaker 44some-- I mean, he's got some love there, you can tell, he's got some love. Oh,↗

9:21:36Speaker 43for↗

9:21:36Speaker 44sure, yeah, he's, he's programmed to defend. Well, it's,↗

9:21:39Speaker 46it's a res- it's a respect. I mean, I, I, I just don't wanna-- I don't think we should turn our back on someone. I think, I, I don't think this-- I think this Fed thing is Just, I think it's ridiculous. I, I don't think that was their intent. Why? Why when there's↗

9:21:50Speaker 44a pattern that supports it, when he is a, a, a clear instigator at January six, people are being arrested, grandmas, grandmas are being arrested for being on the wrong side of the rope, Nick Fuentes is out there with a bullhorn yelling at people and didn't raise anything. Break down the barriers. You don't, that doesn't raise any, flags for you?↗

9:22:13@malleusigYeah,↗

9:22:14Speaker 46that's, that's kind of a red flag. Well, he has, he has, he has addressed all this, and he'd do it, but he'd do it more eloquently than I could. He has addressed all these allegations. I was talking about you, I'm not talking↗

9:22:23Speaker 44about him. I'm saying that it doesn't change the fact that he was out there with a bullhorn and, and, and never faced anything, while people who were guilty of far less sat in jail for years. I was there when a lot of them got released. I sat overnight waiting for him↗

9:22:42Speaker 44Talking about you, does that not raise a red flag for you? Does that not say, "Hmm, how is this possible?"↗

9:22:50Speaker 46Not really. I mean, he was what, a hundred feet away?↗

9:22:53Speaker 43But he, he technically, I mean, he, he was saying break down the barriers. He said that verbatim, "Break down the barriers." I mean, you know, Trump, Trump wasn't at the Capitol? Look what they did to him!↗

9:23:05Speaker 48People that weren't even at the capital weren't arrested. People that weren't even at the capital weren't arrested. That's right, I know, I know. Yeah, that's what we're saying. It's↗

9:23:12Speaker 46probably gonna happen. Alright, well, let me just say this. I, I- This, I do think there's a difference between saying break down the barriers and, and, and, and storm, storm the capital. did he actually say, how does that, how does break down the barriers↗

9:23:24Speaker 43and enter↗

9:23:24Speaker 46the capital not incite the fight? It is, it is the minor charade person↗

9:23:28Speaker 44argument again. Trying to apply semantics to a critical issue. Yes it is.↗

9:23:33@malleusigYeah, listen, listen, the big difference between saying, listen, it doesn't really matter what he said so much, he was there, okay? They literally geo-fenced everyone and went back and arrested people that↗

9:23:46@malleusigPhone signature, okay? They went back and, and tracked them across the country later, went to their homes with SWAT teams, right, to arrest like regular people, right, and make this big hullabaloo, like you think I was, I'm messing, fifteen hundred people, fifteen hundred. Like, look at what they did to the people that were January sixth, okay? So, like, again, this is significant, okay? It's just, it's Ray Abbs' story again. It's Ray Abbs was the same thing. Ray Abbs was there. He was, he was literally↗

9:24:16@malleusigWe need to break down the barriers, we need to get over this, we got to push here, we got to push there. He was literally trying to relieve the entire thing, and he was caught and released. Like they didn't, they didn't- Yeah, yeah,↗

9:24:27Speaker 46but like, so it's like, why is, why is it a valid↗

9:24:30@malleusigquestion↗

9:24:31Speaker 46about Ray Epps↗

9:24:31@malleusigand↗

9:24:32Speaker 46not about Fuentes? Well, because Varep said a lot, he did a lot more, but there is also like, did legal documents where he's sworn he's never spoken to the FBI. So he's, these are legal, you do realize that there's a lot more government agencies than the FBI, right? I, I know, I know, I know. But like, alright, well, what's the point? Like, if he was saying like, alright, going back to the, go, what, who do you think makes↗

9:24:56Speaker 46It makes, people turn away a-and look at us.↗

9:25:00@malleusigListen, all I'm hearing is you avoiding answering the question. I↗

9:25:03Speaker 44don't know what question was, like, I thought I didn't- I said, "Does it not raise a red flag for you?" I asked you, "Uh, explain that." I said, "The fact that he was with a bullhorn directing people to, cross-- Did you say, 'Destroy the barriers, cross'--" "Break down the↗

9:25:18Speaker 43barriers." I, I'm pretty sure that's the verbatim. Okay. I, I↗

9:25:24Speaker 44don Yeah, let's get the exact quote. I can find it pretty easily. Yeah, but, but the point is, let's just, let's just say for argument's sake, he said cross the barrier, right? Not break the barrier. He said cross the bar- barrier, which is still trespassing at the very↗

9:25:39Speaker 46least. We know people- A little bit. But I'll say two things. One, if they arrest him, he's a martyr, which I don't want. Right up to the right, so you're- It doesn't↗

9:25:47Speaker 44raise↗

9:25:47Speaker 46a flag for you, though, correct?↗

9:25:55Speaker 46They put a bullet. Well, also you gotta think like my, my point is, what, what, what have they done for him then? He's not, he's not platformed on anything, he's, or verified on anything at least, he's not allowed back. So what's he gonna have? They're saying we're gonna have a normal, The fuck are you talking about? Well, he's not verified though, is he? And that was Elon Musk. Oh, you, you think he's↗

9:26:17Speaker 44not, he's not making money? No, no, no. He's still making money. He's still making money. Well, they just, they just, they literally just-- He's a massive platform. They just took his,↗

9:26:23Speaker 46his-- Just, they just took it away from him like a week ago, didn't they? Oh, weasel. His Super Chat platform where he got paid, they shut down the whole company when he was gone His life hasn't been easy because of all these. Whose life hasn't been easy? It's not his life. When does, when does that↗

9:26:43Speaker 44matter? Listen, when does it matter? When you have a pattern of behavior that indicates that something isn't right, it doesn't-- there's no, there's no amount of justification there that's gonna make these red flags go away, right? It's like, oh, well, the poor guy, oh, well, he's still acting in the interest of the government, right? Like, it doesn't matter how much "poor guy" is It won't change the fact that he's acting in the interest of the government when the government isn't acting in the interest of the people, right? Like, there's no amount of-- Why would they↗

9:27:14Speaker 46want Nick? Like, go ahead. Why would they want Nick? I put the,↗

9:27:18Speaker 43the video in the, whatever the hell the thing is. Again, this is the next message, Nick message. This is an example↗

9:27:25@malleusigof a diversion question. Why would they want Nick there? That is completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. No, no, no, let me finish. This is the same way you're keeping up with this. Listen, Keith, Keith, Keith, listen. I have a nose for bullshit. I know bullshit when I smell it, okay? And this is exactly the same kind of shit that Jewish people run in us when we try asking about Gaza. It's like, why would Israel wanna just, like, slightly destroy Gaza when they I think so. Of course that means they're not committing a genocide. And it's like, you're doing the same shit now. Why would they want-- I'm not doing that. That wasn't my point. Why would they want to use Nick? It's like that is a completely irrelevant question. We're not talking about why they would-- No, I agree that wasn't my point. That wasn't my point. We're not talking about why they would want to use Nick because they may have motives that go beyond our current understanding or ability to perceive. So that isn't a valid question↗

9:28:17@malleusigto ask↗

9:28:22@malleusigEvidence for or against↗

9:28:25Speaker 46Keith? Okay, well, I would say that if they were gonna work with him, they wouldn't be getting him to basically radicalize an entire generation of young people. But they're not really doing, they're doing the same thing again. And you keep deflecting. Stay in your basement. You're literally keeping the same thing you called out two seconds ago. What's his message? What's his message? Oh no, if someone was gonna be, they'd have, they'd make him spout Ben Shapiro talking points. No, that's not how controlled opposition works. Stop it, stop it. Stop doing this old dance number. Maybe you're↗

9:28:55@malleusigdesigned to pretend we're the government, and if the government's actions or what we see doesn't match our own internal idea of what the government does think and and says, then we have to assume that we're-- our model of the government is completely accurate, and he wasn't actually there, alright? Or he didn't actually do it.↗

9:29:14@malleusigOkay. I know what you're doing, and I'm not gonna let you get away with it.↗

9:29:19Speaker 46I don't think you know you're right. I, I'm trying to have a conversation, and you keep, you keep putting these like, you keep saying, "This is what I'm doing." I'm not trying to do anything. I'm trying to have a conversation. I, I don't think, Nick, I think saying that he's a fad is ridiculous. I mean, wasn't it last week he was- Fleeing the country to go be with the Pope and↗

9:29:37Speaker 43he was↗

9:29:38Speaker 46fleeing from what now? What, what was he fleeing from? What the↗

9:29:40Speaker 43hell are you talking↗

9:29:41Speaker 46about?↗

9:29:41Speaker 43Yo, what do you even-- I mean, this is just fucking stupid at this point. Yeah.↗

9:29:45Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, this is what, this is what Keith Woods was talking about, and he said it was obviously crazy, and I don't think anybody in this room has been in a space where they were saying, "Oh my gosh, Nick Fuentes went to Europe with Keith Woods so they could undermine the Vatican↗

9:30:06Ian MalcolmBut okay, well, I mean, but I do see, we've got Joao with his hand up. I would love to get some of Joao's thoughts on all of the insanity that this has brokered between Fuentes and Dan Bilzerian, as well, Joao, of what's going on just with the zeitgeist in general and how Bilzerian's prospective run in Florida could kind of blow open the door on the discussion on Jewish supremacy.↗

9:30:30@joeyggggggggggHey, Ian, thanks. I'm really enjoying this, this panel, just because, I think the way Diljit feels arguing with Keith is the way I used to feel when Diljit was MAGA, where no matter what you say, there's an excuse for it. so it was kind of nice to see. But Keith did do something that really bothered me. he basically laid out a whole pitch of why Dan can't win. Because the average person is too scared of him, you know, he's, he's a scary human being, he's never gonna win, and like did this whole pitch, like, but very like subvertly, right? Like, I, but I want him to win, but he's never, he has no chance now, right? It's kind of weird. He↗

9:31:14Speaker 46doesn't.↗

9:31:16@joeyggggggggggYeah, so the, the guy, okay, but the sun tanning guy with the, you know, with the sun tanning, dye, with the orange face, a diaper wearing obese seven year old, that guy, he's not scary. Yeah, but the guy with the mohawk, he was, he was, he was↗

9:31:33Speaker 46hilarious and lovable. Dan is fucking, I like him, but he scares people, especially women.↗

9:31:40@joeyggggggggggOkay.↗

9:31:42Speaker 46I don't, don't you care,↗

9:31:43Speaker 48you? Is that it? Is Dan a normal-- Is that your argument?↗

9:31:47Speaker 55Really?↗

9:31:47@joeyggggggggggI'd, I'd be a lot more scared of Trump than I would of, of Dan Balzearing, to be honest with you. do you think,↗

9:31:52Speaker 46do you think most people watch a Dan clip and walk away going, "Yeah, this guy's, this guy's awesome, this guy's on it. I, I think he's great. I think he's funny. I think he, I think he needs to be propped up," but the↗

9:32:03@joeyggggggggggaverage Ex-military really cares about his country. That's what I think people think.↗

9:32:15Speaker 42No, they don't,↗

9:32:16@joeyggggggggggbecause he doesn't need the job.↗

9:32:24Speaker 43Bro, that is crazy↗

9:32:26Speaker 42talk.↗

9:32:38Speaker 44That's not, that's not Daniel Day-Lewis saying, "Take the capital." That's Nick↗

9:32:47Speaker 48Wentz. I forgot how crazy that was.↗

9:32:54@malleusigIs that normal behavior? That- Okay, okay. Hold on. Thanks, man. You remember when Nick tried, they tried to say that... I, I raised a really↗

9:33:06@joeygggggggggggood point. Let me finish that whole... Hey, Ian, let me, let me finish the one thing. Okay, go ahead. I mean, that, that's very super evident. But I actually think Nick was turned, because if you guys remember, and I, diligent, I think I was in your space, was when evidence started coming out about Tyler Robinson, well, whatever evidence, non-evidence, whatever it is. These shell casings, the hey fascists, catch this, the kind of trolling on the bullets, the fact that that kid, the some of the pictures he had was of Pepe the Fri- it, it was, he dressed up like Pepe as the Slavs, right? Which is, which was like a meme of, like the, the Slavic person bending down in a Adidas track suit, but Pepe uses that as well.↗

9:33:50@joeyggggggggggI made the comment, "Nyx fucked," if this, if this is, if this is true, right? Because they'll, they'll say the group is a terrorist organization.↗

9:34:00Speaker 46well, from that one recording,↗

9:34:02@joeyggggggggggand, and then, sorry?↗

9:34:05Speaker 46From that one recording, is that what you're saying? No, no, he's, he's saying,↗

9:34:07Speaker 44"Uh, it was, I held the space." On the Charlie Kirk case, and this is the discussion we were having at the time. Go ahead, go ahead, Joe.↗

9:34:15@joeyggggggggggYeah, and at the time we're like, "Wait a minute, this, this kid could be a goyper. Like, if that's true, Nick is screwed." Alright? and then I've been kind of waiting to see what Nick did as soon as that, as soon as it came out, and Nick was a completely different person. "No, no, believe the government. Da da da, nothing to see here." And I'm like, okay, yeah, they got to him somehow, and I think that's how, like, I don't think they're saying that Tyler's a, a, is a gripper, but I think- Wait, are you saying↗

9:34:46Speaker 44that they, that they threatened to implicate him?↗

9:34:49@joeyggggggggggThey threatened to implicate the grippers as a terrorist organization. I think that is a possibility. That would have turned him. I'm not saying that's- I wouldn't put my money, but that is a possibility.↗

9:35:02Speaker 46Why didn't you step down like Governor McKinnis did? I mean, isn't that labeled a terrorist organization in loads of countries? I mean, what, what would-↗

9:35:10@malleusigI thought it was, for me, it was significant that he suddenly got funded after he declared that there was no way that it could have been Israel, right?↗

9:35:17Speaker 44And he was also on a bunch of mainstream shows, Crowder. Yes, immediately afterwards. Immediately. Pierce Morgan, Pierce Morgan, yup.↗

9:35:28Speaker 46Well, I think that, I think that this sort of like fringe right talking point got, got thrusted into the mainstream. So, I mean, no, bro, I think they were trying to make him the new Charlie Kirk.↗

9:35:39Speaker 44It directly coincided with his position on the Charlie Kirk assassination. But everyone↗

9:35:43Speaker 46attacked him, right? Every, just for every, everyone he took, he spoke out against. Yeah, they were clearly trying. There was↗

9:35:48Speaker 43a coordinated effort to promote Nifuentes at that point. It's pretty obvious. Well, they weren't being, they↗

9:35:54Speaker 46weren't being favorable to him. I It doesn't matter. You keep saying that like it matters.↗

9:35:59@malleusigLike they were putting him on the team. Well, no, it↗

9:36:01Speaker 43doesn't. You don't, you really have no, it's-- Do some research on controlled opposition, please.↗

9:36:06@malleusigThe fact that they were letting him on Piers Morgan by itself was an endorsement. Yeah, and on other shows,↗

9:36:14Speaker 46what's Piers Morgan got to do? I mean, yeah, but PS Morgan's like a, a show in like England, isn't it? No, it's probably more of an American audience. It's mostly American people. Keith, Keith,↗

9:36:23Speaker 44do you often hold your position in the face of much compelling evidence to the contrary of whatever it is? Well, that would be the proper way.↗

9:36:34Speaker 46he said, he said again. Do you↗

9:36:36Speaker 44often maintain a position even in spite of compelling evidence that your position is not correct?↗

9:36:45Speaker 46no, no, but I don't, I haven't seen compelling evidence that he's a fed. It wasn't just a fed, I mean, w-w-let's, okay, let's not say fed. What about the video we just played?↗

9:36:54Speaker 44Let's not say fed, I mean- Well, he didn't- Did you hear the full video? Did anyone hear the, the clip that I just played?↗

9:37:01Speaker 43I mean, he- What he said was much worse than what many people did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would↗

9:37:04Speaker 44you say, would you say that he was inciting people↗

9:37:11Speaker 44He↗

9:37:11Speaker 46literally↗

9:37:12Speaker 44said, "Go in the capital,"↗

9:37:13Speaker 46literally. All right, all right, but you don't understand. The FBI's not gonna- Trump didn't even say that. You, you know that, right? Trump didn't even say that.↗

9:37:20Speaker 44He said, "Take the capital." He said, "Take the capital," literally, verbatim. Yes, the airport is ours now. It's, this is ours. Yeah, but I↗

9:37:28Speaker 43mean-↗

9:37:30Speaker 46Yeah, but, yeah, but, no, no, see, you're already doing it. It's so annoying. Holy shit. Well, you're, you're overly strong. Let's just calm down. No, no, because I can't take it anymore. It's just ridiculous.↗

9:37:43Speaker 43That's because you just want me to come in and agree with you. No, no, I don't need you to agree with me. It's just the perfect deflection. Yeah, but, yeah, but...↗

9:37:49Speaker 44The reason why I said that is because, we- This is actually a, a conversation that's taking a ben- it's really benefits the audience, right? Obviously, Keith isn't going to be swayed from his position despite a bunch of compelling evidence that something isn't right with Nick Glenn says. I don't know that he's a Fed, but I know that if it was me up there telling people to go into the Capitol, my ass would have been in jail, one hundred percent. Most of the↗

9:38:16Speaker 46people listening, did anyone who- Did anyone who didn't go in- Yes,↗

9:38:20Speaker 43yes, we said this already, yes.↗

9:38:22Speaker 46Most of the people that were arrested were not inside the building. Did not go in the building. No, but they, they went beyond the, beyond the, the- There were people who went to jail and weren't even there. Yeah, really? Yeah,↗

9:38:34@malleusigthey're people in a different↗

9:38:34Speaker 53town↗

9:38:36@malleusigorganizing the January sixth, events. Wait,↗

9:38:40Speaker 44wait, wait, are you-- Is it your position that him up there with a bullhorn directing people to go inside isn't an organizer?↗

9:38:49Speaker 46No, that's different. That's different.↗

9:38:52Speaker 43Yeah, but, yeah.↗

9:38:54@malleusigAnd the crazy thing is, the more we talk about it, the more I begin to notice the correlations between January sixth and Charlottesville. Like, both of them seem like completely Astroturf, like fake, like all right events and shit. Like Charlottesville,↗

9:39:07Speaker 56I really need to talk about that. We↗

9:39:08@malleusigjust found out that the SBLC funded Charlottesville, right?↗

9:39:12Speaker 43Yeah, and look at how, what they used. I mean, they, the, the Charlottesville thing lasted for a very long time, and they used it against Trump for a long time too.↗

9:39:20@malleusigYeah, yeah,↗

9:39:22Speaker 43yeah. Yeah. They got a lot of money out of that. They got a good, yeah,↗

9:39:25@malleusigthey were, that was, that's a big deal. They left out that some of them↗

9:39:31Speaker 46died of yeah, I agree with you, with that. I completely agree. I think that-- And the fact that you don't agree with that, but then you say it's not weird, it's not a hard thing to say. It's really weird because this is missing, Tony.↗

9:39:42Speaker 56The, the, it's what's really weird about this is the Charlottesville incident does put Nick Quintas one degree away from the Unite the Right. So wasn't he,↗

9:39:51Speaker 46wasn't he↗

9:39:51Speaker 56seventeen though at the time? Oh, what does that matter? What does that matter? Why is he retiring? What does Renaissance Quintas spoke in April of 2018, and now this was about a white nationalist movement where he was, separately there was Identity Europa, and then there was other annual members, where he ended up working with, Al Sop. Do you remember Jake Balsop↗

9:40:20Speaker 56from his podcast, where he left that and went to go work at, excuse me. With James Alsop in January 2018. Keith, do you know who that is?↗

9:40:36Speaker 46sorry, you asked if I remember, no, I don't remember that. you don't remember that? No. Oh, no, well, could you remind me? I mean, maybe,↗

9:40:47Speaker 56Okay, so the James Alsop connection. C-Fuentes co-hosted the Nationalist Review podcast with him.↗

9:40:56Speaker 56Okay. You've, you never listened to that? No, so you don't know what that is. Okay. Well, James Alsept marched with the Identity Europa and was actually a member of the Unite the Right, so we can say at this point that the foundations that he worked with received funding from the SPLC, which was indicted by Tom DeLay and stating that they were funding these far right organizations. The only thing that was obviously was used to generate Anti-Semitism for the ADL's benefit. And now we've got Nick Quintas, which is one degree away from that. These are people that he's worked with. So you're saying, how is that relevant? Well, he has worked with people that have been listed in an indictment.↗

9:41:38Speaker 56Is that relevant?↗

9:41:41Speaker 46Wait, did he just say "yeah, bud" again? No, it's not relevant.↗

9:41:46Speaker 56It's not relevant. Okay. Well, I think you know that you're not willing to engage in good faith. Yeah,↗

9:41:51Speaker 46no, it's not that. It's just you want me to agree with everything. No, I'm just saying- No, I want you to↗

9:41:56Speaker 56agree with what I'm doing. Dude, I mean, what↗

9:41:57Speaker 46are↗

9:41:58Speaker 43we doing?↗

9:41:59Speaker 56Can we↗

9:41:59Speaker 43get- Can we replace him with a different group at this point? Is it↗

9:42:02Speaker 56agreeable, though, is what I'm saying? If, let's say, someone else would disagree with↗

9:42:11Speaker 55it. Yeah.↗

9:42:15Speaker 43I mean, holy fucking shit. I'm sorry for cursing here, but damn.↗

9:42:19Speaker 48Could, could the↗

9:42:20Speaker 55whole-↗

9:42:20@joeyggggggggggKeith is talking to↗

9:42:21Speaker 56girls. I don't think you're sorry about cursing. Keith, no, I'm not, I do it a lot, but I'm trying to do a little↗

9:42:25@joeyggggggggggbetter. Keith is talking to girls, just talking to girls make you gay?↗

9:42:34Speaker 43No. What about having sex with a lot of girls? Does that make you gay? He, he did, he did, he↗

9:42:37@joeyggggggggggdid, he did say that yesterday, you know.↗

9:42:42Speaker 46Yeah, well, it's a joke, right? I mean, if you guys have to rely on what he says, do you find↗

9:42:48Speaker 44women attractive?↗

9:42:51Speaker 43Yeah. Do you think that Nick might be gay?↗

9:42:57Speaker 43I think he's probably asexual. Do you think his boyfriend is gay? Asexual, that's↗

9:42:59Speaker 44gay, right? Is that code for gay?↗

9:43:02Speaker 43Do you think when he's having gay↗

9:43:03Speaker 42sex, is it gay? Yes. Okay, great.↗

9:43:06Speaker 44Do you think↗

9:43:06Speaker 42any of the other men that he has sex with are gay?↗

9:43:12Speaker 46Yeah, but I was like,↗

9:43:14@joeygggggggggg"This is where I'm gonna go, like, do you think paying for a furry to come to you is a good idea?" At least, at↗

9:43:19Speaker 44least this is somewhat gratifying, bro. You haven't engaged in- Yeah, well, at least we're laughing now. It's like before it's just a pointless- You, you have, you have acknowledged the discrepancies and the anomalies in his behavior, but then are like, "But, but, yeah, but..." Yeah, but,↗

9:43:36Speaker 46Well, I think if anyone's going, "Bert, Bert is you guys." No! I'm trying to keep↗

9:43:41Speaker 44presenting evidence and saying here, here, here. Just off the top of my head, you said that what he said about fourteen-year-olds, sleeping with fourteen-year-olds isn't pedophile. You took the opposite position. You said it was pedophile, right? You're in disagreement with Nick Fuentes. Do you, do you think that Epstein's a pedophile, Keith?↗

9:43:59Speaker 44Yes or no? Okay. So you also disagree with Nick Fuentes. I played that clip for you, so you know that you do, right? You said that it's a red flag that he was at-- this is before I played the clip. You said that it's a red flag that he was, at least inciting, people to go in the Capitol out on January sixth, but never faced any charges despite the fact that people who weren't even there, right? And are, are guilty of far less, sat in jail for years. You said that was also a red flag. You have acknowledged that there are anomalies in his behavior and the circumstances surrounding him, but then won't go any further. It's like, yeah, okay, well, he's been online.↗

9:44:40Speaker 46He's been, he's, he spent thousands of hours online, right? What does that mean? What does that matter? You're deflecting↗

9:44:46Speaker 43again, though. Yeah.↗

9:44:47Speaker 46You're↗

9:44:47Speaker 43shifting↗

9:44:48Speaker 56the bad faith part. It's not the bad faith part. It's thousands of hours on mine. That's- I,↗

9:44:52Speaker 42I have to ask, what, what does he have to do? That's what you wanna go with. What, what, what does he have to do to dissuade you? I mean, is it something outrageous like it'd have to, I don't know... There's↗

9:45:00Speaker 44nothing. He's- Endorse a Jewish↗

9:45:02Speaker 42Democrat, I'd have to wonder.↗

9:45:08Speaker 44No↗

9:45:13Speaker 43Do you love it? Do you↗

9:45:14Speaker 46love Nick Wentworth? I, I guess I'd, I'd have to say that he's like telling people, like I said, he'd have to be selling the, the, Ben Shapiro talking points or something like that. I mean, he's telling people to-↗

9:45:30Speaker 44He, he's awakening young people. Wait, wait Ben Shapiro is saying doesn't make any difference, he's just adding a punctuation on it that will make the groypers swallow it whole.↗

9:46:04Speaker 56furthermore, diligent, I think it's kind of like, interesting that Nick Fuentes' origin story, where he brings out his lore, he talks about how he was persecuted by Ben Shapiro when he was a nobody account, that Ben Shapiro was the first major account to broadcast him.↗

9:46:20Speaker 42Interesting. Yeah, I think he's waking people up to give them the sleeping pills so they can go back to sleep. But I don't think he thinks that's relevant.↗

9:46:28Speaker 44I didn't think that that was a real thing, and, and I'm not going to say the account that did this, but there was an account recently, and this isn't too long ago, within the last month, that DM'd me asking me to promote an application. I looked at the application, and it was an application to apply scores to people based on their speech. Right? And integrity. And I said, I can't, in good conscience, promote something that is against my beliefs, right? And then he, he said, "That's okay." He said, "Can you still, can you attack it? And then just that attack will create the attention on it that we want?" Right? So I a hundred percent know for a fact that they pay people to do this, one hundred percent, 'cause I just turned down an opportunity to do it within the last few weeks. Well,↗

9:47:21Speaker 46this was that whole, this was that whole Fed,↗

9:47:23Speaker 44Nick↗

9:47:24Speaker 46Fed↗

9:47:24Speaker 44thing. That has nothing, it doesn't, like, being compromised, it doesn't matter if it's a Fed or, or, or a different government. Yeah, he doesn't have to be↗

9:47:30Speaker 43a Fed, he could be working for someone else, he could just be, you know, it doesn't matter, it's not necessarily↗

9:47:37Speaker 43that You know, is he working for somebody? Is he a Fed? Is he controlled opposition? Like, none of this stuff makes you question who he really is? For me, it doesn't matter what he's doing. Yeah, actually, let me give you↗

9:47:54Speaker 56a little bit of clarification. So the SJC indictment, if you attack the↗

9:47:58@joeyggggggggggplatform on Ian Malcolm space, if you attack that app on Ian Malcolm space, do you still get paid?↗

9:48:03Speaker 44He's, he's I don't, I don't, I didn't, I, I said no, so I didn't have a further-↗

9:48:10@joeyggggggggggI know, I'm ch- I'm joking 'cause you wouldn't take that point. I didn't know, I↗

9:48:13Speaker 44didn't know that that could really happen. Like, I, I was, I was legitimately, I was floored. I was legitimately floored because, this is somebody who I platformed about this issue, who is taking a- it's a way of right of censoring people.↗

9:48:32@joeyggggggggggIt's just↗

9:48:33Speaker 44a different way of censoring. Well, no, no, it's the tactic, it's the tactic of having somebody be opposition for the benefit of, of, of, of, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'll pay you to talk shit about me. It's controlled opposition. It literally is controlled↗

9:48:46Speaker 43opposition. Yeah, I know, I, I said that a hundred times, but that's what it is.↗

9:48:49Speaker 56Well, there is another reasonable explanation that isn't controlled opposition, and it's actually to Keith's I do want to say that if we take into account the S-P-L-SPLC funding and that Nick Fuentes from the very beginning was one degree away from these foundations that were funded to generate antisemitism, and he wasn't in on it Then you can say, "Well, maybe he wasn't SPO, maybe he wasn't an informant. Maybe his job was to collect information and to report the information, like how he put out that information that Dan Buzan apparently came to him with an assassination plot, and then that day, within hours, was arrested thereafter." So that kind of puts out, "Maybe he is, in fact, an FED, or at the very least, an informant."↗

9:49:40Speaker 56Maybe that informant started when he went there on the, January 6th. Maybe that was the deal.↗

9:49:48Speaker 46Did you say you think he's just a funny guy? Well, I, I think that conversation was just, I, I don't, I don't think Dan's a Fed. I'd say that was just- No one said Dan is not what we↗

9:49:58Speaker 43said though. Alright, I think it's time to move on. Is anybody else can say↗

9:50:01Speaker 44he just made a Goodfellas reference or no?↗

9:50:03Speaker 43Who did?↗

9:50:08Ian MalcolmAll right, well let's, you really are a funny guy.↗

9:50:10Speaker 43Oh yeah, hahaha.↗

9:50:13Ian MalcolmWe'll, we'll, we'll, thank Keith, for essentially presenting the other, perspective. Is that what, is that what↗

9:50:20Speaker 44we're gonna call that? That's what that was. We'll,↗

9:50:23Ian Malcolmwe'll try, we'll, but look, it was in good faith, and if nothing else, I appreciate when people are polite and reasonable and nobody↗

9:50:30Speaker 44has to- Thank you for taking the, even one of those. It's, it's hard too when you're I think that sounds↗

9:50:38Ian Malcolmreasonable. I can tell you that. but in all sincerity, no, I, I, I do, and Keith, it takes a lot of, of, of courage to come up. And look, there's, there's eleven, was it eleven hundred people, twelve hundred people in here, and I'm, I'm trying to court as many of the grippers as I can up here, and you're the only one that has, taken us up on that, and so I appreciate you coming up here. But let's just get some different↗

9:51:06Ian MalcolmT, and then we will go to C Heaven by following night who have not participated, and then go to I Q.↗

9:51:12Speaker 57Yeah, thanks a lot, Malcolm. Thanks, great space tonight. It really, I appreciate where everybody is, it's, you know, it's lively, but it's not over the edge, to some respect, even with, I don't know, fake groopers or semi-groopers. But here's the thing, I wanna agree with what Joe said before. This has to do with the change in Fuentes, and I wanna see if anybody And I, I agree with Joe that the change did come after Charlie Kirk's assassination, rest in peace.↗

9:51:45Speaker 57but the idea between, the idea, and I think some of this has to do with, we sort of hit on it, you know, he's a Fed, he's a Fed, so there is a difference, right? To me, what happened to Nick is, I don't see any federal connection. At some point, he took the Jewish money, right? Either was it Chilman or some of these big Zionist money backers, because they're obviously- Using him now to take down people who they are threatened by, okay? So, yeah, it was definitely a red flag when he started mouthing the, mainstream slop after Charlie Kirk's, death.↗

9:52:21Speaker 57but the thing is, I think what happened-- here's my take on what happened. I think that Nick and Joe alluded to this before. That Nick actually was very, you know, his whole history was very resentful and very jealous, I think, of Charlie Kirk, and he always wanted, kind of wanted to have Charlie Kirk's place. And then when Charlie Kirk was killed, I think that this idea that there's could be Jewish money, it works both ways. In other words, on the one hand, they say, "Hey, listen, we could make you a big star, you could be the new Charlie Kirk," right? But the threat on the other side is, oh, 'cause I started seeing this in mainstream media, I don't know if people noticed it. Yeah, exactly that, like, well, either Nick was behind it or his mind-controlled Groypers were behind it. The mainstream media was beginning to feed that, like Groypers being designated as a terrorist group. So that's it, it's the enticement, you know, we'll-- you know, it's like the threat. The threat comes first. Look, we could, we could destroy you and put you in jail by attacking At least, guilt by association. Oh, you're the one that caused Charlie Kirk to be killed, right? Oh, it's Royper operation. Or, oh, by the way, Nick, hey, you know, if you take this money, we'll turn you into the new Charlie Kirk. You just have to do certain favors for us, like first of all, say, oh, anybody who thinks that Israel is even vaguely, implicated is an idiot. And then, then he takes on Dan Valesarian, who I think is also a, a major threat because I don't know what The election, but he's running a legitimate campaign, and he's actually going further than anyone who's like complaining only about Zionists. He's actually talking about Jewish power, Dan Bilesarian. So I don't know what, what you guys think about that, looking for feedback.↗

9:54:15@malleusigI think the, yeah, the real value of Bilesarian's campaign is gonna come out of the, how the media decides to treat him, because even if he doesn't win He's gonna be able to go on to the airwaves and talk for extended periods of time, and that is gonna be very awkward for the mainstream media to like make up some excuse to censor him or to avoid putting him on or letting people hear him, while at the same time pretending to be fair and balanced.↗

9:54:45@malleusigshout out to Martin. What's up, Martin?↗

9:54:48Speaker 58Hey, hi guys. Hey, Martin, it's Alan again. I actually tried to comment earlier when, Aaron Baker was on. just wanted to add my input. First of all, from my perspective, I don't think Aaron Baker can, can beat, DeSantis at this point. I think the fact that he can't actually answer questions, even though I'm comfortable, is the worst kind of politician who can come up against DeSantis in this period. I think that's impossible to even- Expecting to get anywhere, and, I think just like at work, we, we set goals, and everything else other than the goals are distractions. I think if everyone involved on all sides, everyone here, everyone who cares, actually doesn't forget the main goal, which is to get rid of the,↗

9:55:39Speaker 58influence, the Jewish supremacy in the American government, in the UK government, anything disturbing that should be dismissed. And I don't know, it just feels like there's a lot of ego going on, and the ego normally interferes with goals being achieved. And I think in this period, I don't know what I would expect in this period, specifically with everything that's been going on and all the huge red flags, which even idiots and ignorant people, I'm sure, are noticing already, there's no time for ego. And I think, whatever it takes to actually beat Randy should happen. And people should stop thinking about the person and start thinking about the message. And, I think it was you, Ian, yesterday who was, you know, was spelling out to Aaron of what needs to be done and his inability to actually accept the situation was like, "Wow," I, I was like, from everyone who was speaking yesterday, he was the one person I was like shocked that he's even there, even having a, a, a, not in this chat, but actually in this whole,↗

9:56:45Speaker 58situation actually even considered. and I do admit some of the questions you guys asked him were super difficult, some of them might have been a touch misplaced, but in any case, a strong politician should be able to answer questions, and that's something I'm not saying I'm taking sides with anyone, I'm just saying that for, for me,↗

9:57:05Speaker 58For example, Dan actually doesn't step down from his opinion, he stands up and he says it no matter how much, how difficult it is. And I think that's something that, if you wanna be designers right now, that's something that should be, promoted. I also think that there's other people who are involved who are incredibly, articulate, have a big crowd↗

9:57:27Speaker 58and I think everyone should just come together, find ways to come together and make it happen, and never forget the main goal, because, just so you guys know, as much as it's important at this point for everyone on this side to do everything they can to win, from the Zionist perspective side, it's crucial to someone like Randi, who doesn't stop and just says what he wants and doesn't give a shit because he has influence and privilege and gets away with it.↗

9:57:54Speaker 58Would there need to be something on this side that could compete with that? And all this division and talk, I don't, I think it's just a huge distraction. I'm not saying it's orchestrated by the Zionists, but it definitely does feel that way sometimes when there's so much division. Divide and conquer is one of their main goals. I'm done. Thanks for having me on.↗

9:58:13Ian MalcolmAnd, and Martin, really quickly, I'm, I'm curious for your thought because, let's just as a hypothetical presume that Bilzerian gets on the ticket and that he is then, everyone musters together, we all do everything we can, he's able to beat Randy Orton. What do you think that does at the national zeitgeist level when it comes to this, conversation?↗

9:58:33Speaker 58Again, I don't know if it was you said yesterday, but someone said something really, really, really, really clever, which I was like, "Wow." It makes no difference if he wins or not. It's getting the message out to more people at this point, wakes more people up. It might not have an-- Exactly. So on a national level, more people will find out about it, and that's what needs to happen right now. I think this Hold Dan and this whole, this whole Congress,↗

9:58:58Speaker 58elections, part of history, whatever you wanna call it, is another, is another step for the next step, which should be a lot bigger. And if we fail in this step, and It just makes, it just makes it look even more and more further away. So to answer your question, yeah, I think it's important. I think everyone comes together, everyone puts ego, leaves ego at home, and we look at the main goal. Is the main goal to get the piece of shit around here out? Is it the main goal to make more people aware of how bad the situation is and how there is no other choice but to name things for what they are? And I think that, you know, you look at it this way, a while ago, I don't know if it was a year ago or whatever, a lot of the things that people are saying right now, they wouldn't get away with it. I mean, a lot of things that, you know, were obvious are being said right now. It's an opportunity. When someone like Randi gets even more control, these opportunities are gonna close. You, you guys know it, censorship is coming. It, it's gonna be worse than it is right now↗

10:00:00Speaker 59It's not gonna be in this little vacuum we call X where we get, you know, blocked or, or, or shadow banned or whatever. It's gonna become like on a national level, world level. It's all over the place, the signs are there. Look what's happening in the UK. So, to answer your question, yeah, I think it's gonna have a big, I think it's gonna have a dent on the national level, and I think And, you know, as much as I-- everything for me involves human rights and the Palestinians' cause and everything, I think it's way, way, way bigger than that, when it comes specifically when it comes to US politics and the influence and, you know, where you guys are going, I think it's super important. Shouldn't be wasted with ego right now?↗

10:00:41Speaker 60Yeah. And I think that that's such a good point that you make when it's about ego, because when Nick turns around and wants to endorse Baker, but Baker has a one percent chance of winning the vote, and Hasn't even accumulated enough percentage of the vote in his county to have a real chance against Randy Fine, and you have someone like Dan who comes up and says something. However, if we go back and look at like Nick's previous arguments about Casey in Ohio, why didn't he wanna support Casey? Because Casey didn't have a, a chance to win. So why doesn't that argument or that belief system now transpose over to Aaron Baker? Well, clearly his ego has been wounded and he doesn't- want to support Dan Buzarion, he wants to hurt Dan Buzarion because he has been wounded by being called a fed. I, I think you're a hundred percent right in saying that ego or the currently Nick Quinta's motives is driven by ego.↗

10:01:40Speaker 59Well, I, that, just, just to be fair, I agree with everything you said about the ego, I'm just not putting names behind them, not because I'm, I'm not stand- I don't, you know, I, I, from my, I'm on the outside So I, I'm looking at saying, okay, I have a, we have a goal to reach, and that's the goal. Whoever you guys and everyone else in America who is, you know, this affects your day to day the most Should define who that person is. I'm saying it shouldn't, it, the, the, the person isn't important, it really isn't important. I think it should be someone who can actually stand up and talk and have the balls to say the things that need to be said right now. I don't know, I, the first time I ever heard Aaron Baker was, was like a few hours ago, by the way, you guys are still doing this, it's amazing. By the way, Ian, I can't believe you're still here, David, wow.↗

10:02:28Speaker 59but with that said it seems there's a lot about who's, who's the person, and I think that, that might be nice in, in, in normal situations. It's extreme times right now, and we don't have to go through the list of why they should be categorized as extreme times. And I personally really, really, really think that if this time isn't a hundred percent maximized, there most likely won't be the next time that will, that could become as easy as it is right now. I'm not saying it's easy, it's gonna be way more difficult next time when they get And more ability to censor, opinion, and that's, that's scary.↗

10:03:06Ian MalcolmAnd Martin, for what it's worth, I, I- Not only could I not agree with that more, it's why I think this is the, this is the window, and, and we've probably got a year to two, and if we aren't very effective in this short little snippet that we have To your point, there might not be a future in which to even try to remove this problem, right? And, the, the censorship that is ahead of us is undeniable. It will be all-encompassing. And I, I don't actually, for what it's worth, I don't put it past this power structure to shut down essentially the internet if they feel threatened enough by us mobilizing ourselves. And when I say mobilizing, I mean intellectually. And so, you know, as, as many people would suggest, I know Sam Parker always talks about this, let's make As much hay as we can while the sun is up. Let's wake up as many people as we can, right? Because at the end of the day, if, if we wanna fix this, it's gonna have to be done righteously, it'll have to be done peacefully and in-intelligently, and that is going to mandate that we make all the use of the time we have now, because if we don't, then the only option will be something far more radical, and they will use the radical thing to then call into necessity, quote-unquote, the measures to lock us down merely↗

10:04:21Ian MalcolmAnything erratic, you shouldn't do anything violent. The person that does would set us back immensely, 'cause all it'll do is it'll accelerate their ability to say, "Now we need to criminalize the act of calling out this power structure." So we gotta be really smart, really, really clever, but we are, we're gonna continue to be, and we are going to continue to win, I really believe that. so wonderful commentary there, Martin. Let's go to, if I'm not mistaken, let's check in with C, Heaven, and then↗

10:04:49Speaker 61Awesome, thanks. I got dropped down forcibly before I don't know what happened there. I won't take up much time, I just wanted to put into context that guy Keith, 'cause he was definitely Australian, I'm not wrong on that, am I?↗

10:05:03Ian Malcolmyou're getting some thumbs up, yeah, so I'm, I don't hear anymore to affirm that. No, I↗

10:05:08@malleusigmean, he sounded↗

10:05:08Speaker 61Australian. Oh, yeah. Well, that's cool. I was just wondering what kind of connection he had to the US and if he stated it, because I can tell you that people like him are the fringe of the fringe out here. They're a really small minority, and anyone who's pretending to have an interest in US politics linked through a guy and a movement like Nick Fuentes's, they just, they don't get things, 'cause I'm telling you, the average Australian doesn't get US politics, even me studying it for twenty plus years, I can admit that I, I don't understand Down US politics, not, except for on the, the very top level of things, you know, the really biggest issues, I can opine on them, but I can't tell you how someone in Kentucky should see things, yeah? I just wanted to push back on that, otherwise I think he's a good example for how those people think, but don't look at him as a token Australian, please. Thank you.↗

10:05:59Ian MalcolmNo, really well said. And, and when it comes to Bilzerian and Fuentes, since you're here, any thoughts on the two of them and the compare-contrast↗

10:06:09Speaker 61Oh, I'm, I'm going Bilzerian straight away. He's somebody who's already told you that he's willing to put his life down for his ideals. You won't hear that from anybody else. If somebody who is running to get elected will say, "Yeah, sure, I'll leave behind the job if I get in, if you need me on the battlefield," that's who you want to elect. Back in the day, the king had to be on the battlefield, and it's that ancient code of honor that can defeat this modern hypocrisy that they feed off. So you gotta spot the Hypocrites and eliminate them from the conversation. So yeah, back down all the way. I↗

10:06:44Ian Malcolmlove it, and, and, certainly, what Bilzerian was saying earlier, I, I, I take him at face value when he says this isn't something that's gonna make him money. Obviously, he's got fame and fortune, he doesn't need all of these headaches, but he's, he's looking around and nobody else is doing it. And so, you know, kudos to him, the guy that's going to, like you're saying, go↗

10:07:08Ian MalcolmIt requires somebody, frankly, like him, and, maybe we'll go to, to IQ on this question, right? Is Dan Bilzerian the perfect person to try and take this fight, intellectually again and politically to this machine because of the fame, the fortune, and perhaps the, the kind of brass nature of who he is, Mr. IQ? Yeah,↗

10:07:30Speaker 62yeah. It's a mirror. it's a rough space that you've been, Running, but you did a great job. And David, like, I gotta applaud you, man. Like, you always nail it. Like, literally, it's text that you just everyone should learn to be more like David. It's incredible work that you do, and how you cornered, Lucas was, was really good stuff, too. but about Dan and Nick, you know, I didn't even realize this until like five minutes ago, 'cause I just keep thinking about Dan versus fat, right? Like fit man versus fat man. But now I'm thinking he's also kind of a manly man, and Nick is like the opposite of that, which is a very interesting thing, you know? Dan has sex, Nick has sex with men, you know? so they're opposites in a sense.↗

10:08:17Speaker 62so I think Dan is, is great if he wins. it's a big deal. If he loses, it's still worth it. He will create a splash, and it'll have ripple effects. But if he wins, it's gonna motivate everyone, like it's gonna motivate people that have already run for office, that are influencers, to go again on, on this platform. And, and we, we know that this is a winning platform. We just need, we just need enough people. And, and something Yankee said was really spot on, which is, the point about Aaron Baker, how he's guaranteed to lose, right? Maximum,↗

10:08:51Speaker 62Why is he suddenly, why is Nick suddenly endorsing him when he's worried about the other guy, Putz or Casey, whatever his name is, you know, losing and affecting his image? So it doesn't add up. He's a manchild, you know, that should be the red flag on its own, is that Nick Fuentes is a manchild, but he does say weird things and how he supported Epstein is very suspicious to me, and I wanna end this with, what Lucas was talking about and how David cornered him. when they're talking about how Israel is a reasonable suspect when it comes to Charlie Kirk.↗

10:09:22Speaker 62you know, especially for people who are aware of the Jewish question, someone like him who's writing books and articles about it and knows about ZOG, then anytime the government does something weird, you should assume ZOG. It's not gonna like ZOG is gonna go away at any time, right? Like, we are occupied by Jews, and until we're not, you should suspect them every single time, otherwise you're a terrible detective, you're a terrible investigator. And I'm tired of hearing IQ antisemitism. It's not low IQ, it's low budget. It's the people versus the government. We're at a huge disadvantage here, right? And they're throwing smoke screens in our face. fucking George Zinn, guys. Like, just think about George Zinn, 'cause that guy, I've never forgotten him. The same guy that told us that the plane, he saw the plane hit the towers in nine eleven, pulls his pants down and says, "I'm the shooter," when Charlie gets shot. Anyone worth a soul, anyone would be like, "That's↗

10:10:17Speaker 62Defending the Jewish position. So, definitely it's a suspect and anyone, I guess this is a mark right there, and I thought either Lucas is dishonest or he's being contrarian, and I'm not sure why. but there's no other pa- I mean, maybe he's stupid, but I don't think he's stupid. He's a writer and, and he, he does think things through, so I think he's either being dishonest or he's being contrarian for whatever, I don't know what reason, because it's an indefensible position, but it's a great space, guys, seriously.↗

10:10:46Ian MalcolmNo, and, and it's a, it's a great space because of all of the participants, the people that have come through. We've had some, really wonderful guests, but everybody, Emira yourself included, have just been wonderful, and, and you guys are the ones that make these conversations, right? I, I do wanna give a lot of credit to Truth Teller and, of course, to Christopher Wood, for kinda setting this in motion initially, but, it, it really-- it goes without saying that, that it would be the three of us without all of you, right? And so we've, we've been able to have a really productive conversation, the piece with,↗

10:11:25Ian Malcolmwith Lucas. I, I would recommend people go back and listen to that, frankly, if, if you weren't here for it, try to understand to Amira's question why that was the way that it was. because it, it- There, there is a, there's a limit on material where people can say, "I'm ignorant on X, Y, or Z." But when you lead the horse all the way to the water and you say, "Here's the water," you splash it in the horse's face and it refuses to drink, and the horse then looks at you and says, "I don't think I know what, what water is or where it is." At some point, you gotta get a little frustrated. but, but nonetheless, let's go to, Mr. McMurphy,↗

10:12:08Ian MalcolmMcMurtry, go in once.↗

10:12:17@hussainshafieiHello there, Ian, David, and everyone else. I'm sorry, I just had a problem with my button. I was listening to you seven hours ago, and I wanted to say kudos for this, man. You are, you know, full of energy. You, you never get tired. And I wanted to talk about this last night when David put up, brought at this point, but I couldn't actually, had some technical problems, so I'm gonna just say it now, and I would love to, hear your thoughts on this. I think the reason that this is happening right now between Dan and Nick, from Dan's perspective, is that his campaign is all about What he doesn't want, what he stands against, the beginning of it was Jews and Israel, and then he started talking to Laura Loomer, for instance, and then now Nick Fuentes, and it is a good strategy for, you know, attracting, crowds and talking about stuff that are controversial, fights that would, you know, bring people to the table to listen to this. And by the way, I do think that it'll, it only works for Dan. Not against him, talking to someone like Nick and fighting with him would only bring him the audience, Nick's audience, and they would listen to him, but from what I understand, whoever follows Dan, whoever wants to vote for Dan or support Dan They wouldn't go to anyone else because his message is unique between politicians, and it isn't something you do lightly. You don't say, "I hate Israel, I hate Jews and what they're doing, and I stand against them lightly in the United States." If you say that, you're putting yourself in jeopardy, your life, your livelihood, anything. It's just a dangerous thing to do, so you don't just say it like, "I prefer this car, I prefer that car," "This is my opinion, it doesn't matter that much." If you're standing behind Dan, then It does matter to you, and you have made up your mind a very important decision that would affect your life, but from Nick's audience's perspective, well, they like a lot of things that he's been saying, and Ni- Dan is saying a lot of those things too, but he's taking it to the next level, so there is a possibility for those people who listen to Dan and then decide that, yeah, this is the way to go.↗

10:14:46@hussainshafieiNick is saying some stuff that are, you know, attractive, they're fun to listen to, and they make sense in some levels, but in the end, he's not doing anything, and that is his biggest problem because when I was listening to the, one of the last- Times that Nick talked about this, I think it was a couple of days ago, and he said, "Well, Dan doesn't have anybody, he has no audience, he has no followers, I'm the America First movement, stuff like that," but in the end says, "You're not doing anything, and I'm standing for what I believe in." But from what I understand, it's the exact opposite, because Nick's solution to the whole thing is, "I'm gonna vote Democrats." He says, "Yeah, you're saying this is the fault of Israel and Jews. I have been saying that for years, but in the end, you're saying that a lot of the problems in the United States and the rest of the world..." Or because of Israelis and Jews and Zionists, but your solution to that is to go from one part of the system, the Conservative Party, to the other part of the system, the Democratic Party, as a voter no less, not as an influencer who would actually do something inside the government, but as someone outside of it who's just going to vote, and you're gonna vote Democrat, which is also under the control of Zionists, and you're saying, "I'm affecting change." So I don't see that And↗

10:16:11@hussainshafieiif we look at it logically, in the end, Dan is actually going up against Democrats, and not Republicans. So yes, in the primary, he has to just get past Randi Fine and this Aaron guy, which by the way, I think Truth was making this exact same point last night, you know, our time. I think it's nighttime, your time, but, you know, so he was making the same point Point that when, when you look at it, when you look at the essence of the message is, in the end, those who support Dan, they're not gonna vote for Aaron or anyone like that, because in the end, he may say some stuff, but he is supporting Israel and so on. And after, hopefully, Dan beats,↗

10:17:01@hussainshafieithe fat Jew in primaries in the end, he has to go up against the Democrats, so he is actually talking to someone who has influence over those people who he really wants to beat. But I'm, I'm just gonna land on this one point that I think is really important. Dan has no positive message in everything he's saying. He hates this, he's opposing this, he says that is bad, that is what shouldn't happen, that's what we shouldn't do, we shouldn't support Israel, Israel is bad, their army is bad, they're doing bad things, you know, Jews are just controlling the country, they're hurting all of us. But in the end, okay, you oppose all of that, and you wanna go to Congress to help the country, but what is it you're exactly trying to do there? Because you wanna go there as a non-Jew, non-Zionist, okay, very good, but when you get there, what are you all about? And by the way, this is very much easier For liars, for Zionists, because they can say, "Okay, I'm gonna go and improve education, I'm gonna go and improve your tax situation, I'm gonna go and give you more freedom," and that's it. They just can lie about everything. But if you don't have that, if you wanna be honest, if you wanna say stuff that you're gonna do and you wanna stand by your word, then you have a much harder job. You have to have a plan for what you want to do, and I think that's the part that Dan Bilzerian is lacking. In his campaign so far. Thank you.↗

10:18:35Ian MalcolmNo, and thank you, McMurthy. And, and look, I, I love the, the, the delivery and the, and the, the positive actionable steps that, that you had recommended there for Dan, and I think you're, you're very correct, especially on that idea of it's one thing to dislike something, it's much more attractive to be able to say what it is you do like. and I, I, as a result, I, I think you're exactly right. there, there should Talking about, here are the problems of Jewish supremacy, here's what we could do if that problem wasn't here, and that doesn't mean, again, any kinetic violence, it's just saying, if you, if you have the tiger in the room with you, it's going to rip up all the cushions and maybe attack you. And think of all the great things we could do with this room if the tiger weren't here, right? And so, I, I, I do think painting that picture of the better tomorrow, that's why I always try to aim with some kind of positivity and↗

10:19:31Ian MalcolmLet's check in with, with Rabbi as the co-host here, and then we'll go to Colonel Gannon Burton.↗

10:19:39@malleusigThanks. I just saw that, Chase Guy opened the room, so I'm, I'm thinking about going to there after and see if I can get him to bring me up again as the only Rabbi. But, I was, I was, I was just gonna say, I was gonna talk about, Bilzerian, and my honest feelings about Bilzerian before I leave are that he- His main value is gonna be to bring the discussion to the public.↗

10:20:04@malleusighe has a fatal, he has a fatal flaw in his campaign, which is that, even if, even if people like him and don't like Randy Fine, they're gonna be forced to vote for Fine simply because they're gonna look at Bilzerian, and Fine is gonna-- Fine, all Fine has to do is be like How is, is asking everyone, how is Buzen gonna run, run anything? He doesn't know how to run a state, he doesn't have any experience in politics, and that's gonna be his Achilles' heel. But I think it's important that he runs his campaign, and I think it's important that he runs it insistently, because↗

10:20:41@malleusighis presence in the discussion, in the national discussion, if we can get them to stop censoring him, right? If we can get him to give him equal time is going to open up a lot of middle ground that until very recently was considered far right. And that, I think, is a very, very good opportunity for the rest of us, if we make use of it correctly. What are your thoughts on that?↗

10:21:11Ian MalcolmI, I couldn't agree more. And, that's the thing is that, again, it's, it's these- And, and first and foremost, I also wanna give credit to Chase Gaiser, who you mentioned. I wanna give credit to the fact that your handle, Rabbi Malias, I've been in multiple spaces where Jews will bring you up and say, "Yay, let's get this perspective of the rabbi,"↗

10:21:29@ehsanjoarderwhich isn't very,↗

10:21:30Ian Malcolmvery comical. And I wanna give Chase Gaiser credit because, probably a year or two ago, he let me into a room, and I was just like, "Here's how I see the world," and he thought we were crazy, and Regardless of what happens with Dan Bilzerian and this campaign and the primary and prospectively the election, win, lose or draw, if we keep doing what we're doing, we are-- and I, I actually just sent this in a, a DM to somebody-- we're changing the world. And I know that's, that sounds very hyperbolic, sounds, just, you know, overkill, but in, in the-↗

10:22:10Ian MalcolmTrue, since a year ago, things weren't where they were today. A year ago, from that, two years ago, it was drastically different, and even three months ago to today, things are, are, are even more different, right? So we are making these, these steps that each and every day, no different than if, if you were to walk a marathon, every step is inconsequential and you get to the end of the finish line and you can't believe what you did, right? And so we are making a massive difference, and we should never take that for granted, we should never And, and how many, essentially, I don't wanna call them acolytes, but how many additional voices we are developing along the way, right? To think two years ago Dan Bilzerian would be talking about these things would, it wouldn't have sounded crazy, and to think that diligent and some of these other individuals that host massive spaces, that they would start seeing the world a little bit differently as well, I, I would have thought that absolutely unfathomable just a year ago. And so we, we are winning every single day, and I, I, I just wanna say that for you↗

10:23:10@malleusigYeah, no, thanks. You know what, you, you wanna hear something crazy? One of the, the most wibbly things, this morning, I was walking around, in, I won't say which city, walking in a city, and I hear a guy on his phone talking about the Jews to whoever he was on the phone with, just having a conversation about them, and- And I'm like, "This is actually, this is a-- it's starting to leak out into real life. This is wonderful. This is-- and it's not that I want hatred or Jews to be persecuted, it's that they need to be talked about. We have, we have avoided talking about them for too long, and as a result, they've used the cover to get away with all kinds of atrocities, you know, physical and otherwise." And they've used it to get us to accept all kinds of absurdities that suit them and don't suit us. And I think that right now the most important thing for all of us to be doing is to be reading, researching And talking with each other and educating ourselves. We're in, we're in the,↗

10:24:11@malleusigyou know, the, the affirmative action influx of Black women into African American studies stage of the movement, right? We're in the point where it's like, we need to get a lot of people in here, get everyone read up on what reality really is And then whatever the equivalent of sending black women into HR departments the country over, we'll, we'll move into that step next, hopefully, you know, whether it involves the next generation or whatever. But, before I go, Ian, can I read something that I just found that I think might be pertinent before we go? Of course you↗

10:24:44Ian Malcolmcan, and I hope you also play a little jingle before you head out. Yeah, I can do that,↗

10:24:47@malleusigdefinitely. I'm gonna read this, and, Ian, you, you know that I have a metaphysical bent, and I don't know if you've talked about this, one of my, one of my pet topics is the Edgar Cayce readings, and I just wanted to read this really quickly. This came out with, somebody in Telegram distributed the entire library of fourteen thousand readings, and this was in the, in the introduction as a note.↗

10:25:15@malleusigYou may have noticed that the media seems dead set on bombarding us with multicultural messages. This was a terrible shock to me when I learned this, but this current ongoing propaganda campaign is a direct result of Edgar Casey. I recently learned while perusing a lot of transcripts of Ed Casey readings that at one point in 1945, Ed Casey was called to the White House to do some readings for a group of individuals whose identities were kept secret, but were later found to represent the Council on Foreign Relations in the League of Nations, the old name for the United Nations. The questions they asked weren't kept secret. However, being recorded as normal near area archives, it seems the theme of their inquiries was how to set up a one world government. The questions continually asked what economic, political, and propaganda techniques could be enacted that would result in this being successfully brought about.↗

10:26:09@malleusigCasey told them that every attempt at building a world empire, second, in the, in the past, had failed, I guess. Because these empires are being forged for the benefit of a single people's or nation, and that because of this, God didn't permit them to become established or fully realized. Casey revealed that God will only allow a world empire to come about if it is done for the benefit of all humans everywhere in the spirit of brotherly love. Such an empire would need to be built Upon dismantling the differences between the nations and the races and fostering understanding between same to the extent that people everywhere now consider all the people everywhere of their same family and when all peoples of the world were of a single human group, in every man's estimation, such an effort would succeed. A war not of bullets and bombs, but of words and information is what Casey advised was required. Essentially, Casey advised to these men with a propaganda campaign, advised them a propaganda campaign the likes of which the world had never seen before, global in nature, with an aim to undoing racial bias the world over, which is exactly what the media is now doing. Furthermore Casey warned the questioners that the day could be foreseen when the evil people they represented would soon try to use this information for their own benefit and would eventually succeed in bringing about a world government, but that God would banish their representatives from power soon after it had been realized, demolishing their machinations no matter how they attempted to circumvent His intervention. Also stated that these evil people would try anyway to bring the world under their own, under their own total control, even though they're aware of what he just said. So this is, for me, this is very interesting because God wins. It doesn't matter how much they try to weaponize goodwill and faith against us to put us under their thumb, even if they manage to pull it all, all the way to its conclusion, God unseats them at the end anyway. So for me that was very hopeful, I wanted to share that. And,↗

10:28:17@malleusigdo you have any requests for, for songs? I have everything queued up.↗

10:28:21Ian MalcolmI don't for a song, but the, the one thing I would add while you're looking for one, to queue it up. So a few things. Number one, I hope everybody gave David Niche a follow. Please give one to Mr. Rabbi as well. Absolutely wonderful individual. I've loved doing a lot of spaces with him on everything from politics to the ethos of, Star Wars and Lord of the Rings and↗

10:28:42Ian MalcolmI always have wonderful time with him. Very fun and funny individual. he also creates a ton of music, which we are about to listen to just a single example of, but on that theme Let's not forget, and this just, it always goes back to the same subject, same topic, same tribe, if you will, of, of, if not of intellect, then perhaps of ethnicity or religion, because it was in fact Marx and Engels, and Engels, who of course coauthored the Communist Manifesto with Karl Marx, who sent the note to Marx saying, "There's going to have to be a revolutionary Holocaust or hellstorm, which would bring about the condition- Conditions both in terms of ethnic as well as economic conditions in which everybody under the, the thumb of this one system could exist in a global communism That was essentially the view, was that you'd have to get rid of all of these people that are either too dumb or they're too poor to be part of this system. So how do you beget a world that is ripe for that one world system that Rabbi just described? It's not just the ethnicity of the people. And yes, it certainly helps to mix them all up, which is the clergy plan, but you also have to turn the first world into the second world and the third world into the second world. And you do that by exporting all of the poverty and all of the misfits from the And then you look around at what has been happening for the last twenty, thirty, forty years, oh, it's that exact same thing. And so they are weaponizing it every turn, and that's why when you start looking at these pictures, you come to the inevitable conclusion that all the things that make no sense make complete sense when you understand them through this one prism. And it's a very uncomfortable prism, but again, it's not just Hollywood, it's not just the politics, it's not just the tech, it's not just the pharma and the food, it's the everything. They At all, and they are terraforming your civilization, your economic prosperity, and your neighborhood so that they can beget a future state in which they essentially enslave everybody, and it sounds absolutely maddening, and I can appreciate that. But at some point, you just have to look at not what something might be, not the label, but look at what it does. And when every aspect of the machine operates the exact way I just described, at some point you gotta say, you know, maybe Maybe that's it. And then the wildest part is, once you identify the machine and what it does, you basically can predict the future. You can predict all the other parts of the machine, even if you've never explored them, because you understand, "Oh, I've never seen a single advertisement in a mall, but I can guarantee it's gonna feature a white woman with a black guy. It's gonna feature all this other art that's gonna demoralize me. It's gonna be all of these various aspects to dumb you down, to dis- essentially de-root your society, your heritage, Your love for your people, your love for your heritage, all of it. That's why all the statues have to go, that's why all the economic opportunity has to go with it, and that's why everybody that's living through this is on SSRIs, drugs, whether legal or otherwise, committing suicide at ever-increasing rates, and everyone's getting poorer and poorer. So unless you want the world to continue going that direction, speak out, speak out lovingly. And with that, let's get some musical interludes from Mr. Rabbi Malias that are perhaps a little bit uplifting, to follow that rather, rather heavy,↗

10:32:10Ian Malcolmdelivery.↗

10:32:11@malleusigSure thing. Here we go. Hi, everyone. This is Malias, and this is your daily reminder that the real Samson option is in your heart.↗

10:36:08Ian MalcolmLove is the way, ladies and gentlemen, the one and only Mr. Rabbi Amalee. I love the line about Randy Fynes, Twitter, isn't it fitting for this space that that came up? And, I think everybody in this room, no matter all of your shortcomings, you're still better than a Zionist because they support seemingly the mass genocide of the Palestinians. And so all of our faults, we will stumble, we will fall, and we will sin. If you don't support literal genocide, you're doing better than a whole lot of those folks. but Mr. Malias, thank you as always, as a co-host, always look forward and love getting to speak with you, my friend. so with that, we'll go through a couple more hands. I wanna make sure that everybody gets a chance to, to say their final words before we close up. And we will start with, with Mr. Colonel Gannon Burton, as we give a big wave to Mr. Rabbi as he walks out the door. But go↗

10:37:06Speaker 63I wanna take, just a second, we're gonna talk about very quickly Dan and Nick, but just to baseline everyone where I am on things. It's very simple for me. It's like, if you don't, if you believe Charlie Kirk was killed by a thirty-eight six, then you are a Fed. I mean, that's where we're at. Like, that, that, that universe doesn't exist. So with Nick Quintez,↗

10:37:30Speaker 63he really, it, it just, he, he, he looks and he smells like, like an ADL honey trap to me. And then, and I, I really didn't get it until I saw the video, 'cause I was at January 6th. I was, on active duty, I took leave, walked down, saw the feds moving the barriers around the Capitol that day, and then I saw the video of, Nick, like encouraging people to go, like, like if- If anything was going on, if anyone should have been arrested that day for what everyone else was arrested for that day, he should have been arrested. So I, I kinda got an issue there with him.↗

10:38:12Speaker 63and then with Dan, I kinda have the same thing with Nick, and frankly, Truth Teller, it's like there's grace in this thing, and I, the thing that I'm missing with Dan is, the grace, because there's a lot of progressive Jews out there that are like fighting like hell against COVID vaccines, against, you know, crimes against humanity, and they are fighting like hell. And what I worry about is that,↗

10:38:42Speaker 63and I like Dan, his message is, is solid, but what I, what I care about is that, hey, you gotta give people a chance for grace, and just because they're part of a tribe, don't put 'em all in one, one, one bucket, and that's a, that's something that- That you, you lose a lot of talent with, and you probably end up like getting destroyed at the end because it dries. And I think that's what, I think that's what the Zionists wanna do is they do, they, they wanna cover up the fact that they're guilty of crimes against humanity, and not just in Palestine, but like with, like poisoning and killing my stepmother with the deadly COVID vaccine. and that's the bigger thing at the end of the day, right? Like, I know the shit's going on in Palestine, right? But- Like,↗

10:39:31Speaker 63billions of people have been poisoned by crimes against humanity here, and there's some pretty damn good Jews that are out there like calling that shit out, that need to, like, they don't need to get, like, we don't, we, we don't need to let the Zionists like get them to where they're Like, okay, fuck it, let's just go ahead and poison people because those people are doing some pretty good work. Anyway,↗

10:40:00@ehsanjoarderlove you guys. Which Jews are you talking about? Which good Jews?↗

10:40:04Speaker 63well, Naomi Wolf is probably like the, the best of it. there's a couple others that are out there that are... Did you say, are you giving me... Did you give me a guy's↗

10:40:15@ehsanjoardername?↗

10:40:16Speaker 63What was that? Name, Naomi Wolf, Na-Naomi Wolf. Naomi Wolf is a good Jew? Okay. Yeah, all right. And she's, all right, who else? Well, she's out there like fighting for, like, like she's calling out the crimes against humanity, right? And there's a, a few others that are out there actually calling the shit out. So, and I think that there's a lot of people, and maybe you're one of 'em, that are actually paid by the ADL, which I think TruthTeller is, which is trying to get people to hate the Jews.↗

10:40:50Speaker 63Hate, wait,↗

10:41:10Speaker 63for those who, aren't actually trying to be vampiric, satanic pedophiles.↗

10:41:18Ian MalcolmWell, no, I don't think he isn't. Are you saying he's↗

10:41:21@ehsanjoardervampiric, satanic, pedophile, adjacent?↗

10:41:23Ian MalcolmYou're, you're, you're saying how? What would you, what would you wish to see? Well, no, I don't even wanna say wish. What would be different in Truth Teller's messaging if he weren't, according to you, paid by the ADL?↗

10:41:35Speaker 63if he were, if he would, if he would, talk about the individuals who don't do that. There's progressive Jews, there's, there's- I mean, there's a shit ton of Jews, as you know, you guys have studied this even more than I have, so you're deep into it, but there's a ton of Jews who don't believe that Israel should exist, but you don't even acknowledge those guys, right? Do you know the difference↗

10:41:57Speaker 60between, of, of the, of the, of the,↗

10:42:01Ian Malcolmof Western Jews in the United States and Europe, what percent, support the state of, of Israel and in particular Zionism?↗

10:42:08Speaker 63Oh, probably most, right? Probably most, right? Yes,↗

10:42:10Ian Malcolmprobably most, okay. Genocide of every single Palestinian child. Again,↗

10:42:18Speaker 63again, probably most, probably most. Okay.↗

10:42:20Ian MalcolmSo what you're- So what I'm saying is you better have- I won't mute you. Because what you're suggesting is instead of focusing on a overwhelming representation of people who are celebrating a nation that is celebrating genocide, you demand that Truth Teller is funded by the ADL because he refuses to spend the majority of his time focusing on the Jews who don't support that. Is that right?↗

10:42:46Speaker 63No, I'm sorry, I just got off mute. no, my, my issue with Free Teller is that there's zero grace in his message, right? There's no off-ramp for those who don't, who, who recognize, and there, there, I mean, you have all kinds of Jews, right? You have you have, the Hasidic Jews, you have the Christian Jews, you have the, Christian↗

10:43:08Ian MalcolmJews are a LARP that shouldn't exist.↗

10:43:10Speaker 63Oh, you don't, you don't-- Oh, I'm sorry, so that, that doesn't exist? It, well, I said it shouldn't↗

10:43:15@ehsanjoarderexist. Jews for Jesus, he's talking about.↗

10:43:17Speaker 63You don't, you don't think that's- Jews for Jesus. You,↗

10:43:23Speaker 63you don't think that's an actual thing? You don't, you don't think- Oh, I'm sorry, you↗

10:43:31@ehsanjoarderdon't That's a different thing. That's a different thing. We can talk about that. But, but hang on, hang on, Colonel, you're, Colonel, you're,↗

10:43:37Ian Malcolmyou're a Christian. So you're saying, is that right?↗

10:43:39@ehsanjoarderNow,↗

10:43:40Speaker 63I was, I was brought up in, I was going to church on Saturday. We were, we were basically Jews who accepted Christian. And I don't, I don't think so, but who, who even knows what is a Jew? What is a Jew? What is a Jew? That's a great second question. What do you mean? What is a unique thing? I'm↗

10:43:56@ehsanjoardervery confused.↗

10:43:57Speaker 63No, and that's a good, that's a great question too, right? What is a Jew? No, hang↗

10:44:00Ian Malcolmon, hang on, hang on, Colonel, I'm gonna try and be in good faith with you, because now I think you're actually being in bad faith with us. It's a pretty basic question. How do↗

10:44:21@ehsanjoarderWell, he served in the military, which is very not Jewish, so he's probably not Jewish. I mean, overall. But unfortunately, I think he might be confused in a very rare scenario. Like, so this is a great question. What is a Jew, right?↗

10:44:35Speaker 63And are you a Jew? That's a great question. And↗

10:44:39Speaker 60the Kabbalah, do you observe the Sabbath on Saturday? Do you have your foreskin chopped off? Let's go on, on. Do you- Sacrifice chickens over the top of your head to get rid of your sins. No, I don't do any of that. No, this Jewish culture. It's not a Jewish culture.↗

10:44:56Ian MalcolmBecause a lot of that is, a lot of that, while actually reasonable to say it, and there are certainly Jews that do that, but, but Colonel, you recognize that to, you can be Jewish ethnically, you could, I suppose, be Jewish culturally, right? So that's↗

10:45:10Speaker 63a great-- I mean, and that's a great question, right? That's a great question, Ian, right? Right? No, so what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So↗

10:45:19Ian Malcolmwhat we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we should be- So what we↗

10:45:36Ian Malcolmshould be- So↗

10:45:42Ian MalcolmColonel, the, I'm trying, I'm↗

10:45:44Speaker 63trying. Am I,↗

10:45:44Ian Malcolmam I↗

10:45:44Speaker 63back off mute? you are. Yeah, you realize that is a great question. What is Jewish ethnicity? Why do you think ethnicity is a great question? I think it's made up. I think it's made up. What, what,↗

10:45:53Ian Malcolmwait, you think it's made up?↗

10:45:55Speaker 63Yes.↗

10:45:57Ian MalcolmOkay, so, so do you believe in ethnicity, period?↗

10:46:00Speaker 63it's kinda there, but it's, at the end of the day, it's individual.↗

10:46:03Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait, wait↗

10:46:08Speaker 63Yeah, there's genetics, but at the end of the day, it's like you have to judge individuals. Okay, can you explain↗

10:46:12Ian Malcolmhow genetics, how do genetics manifest themselves in you as a human being?↗

10:46:18Speaker 63I don't think they give anybody like any particular grace under, or any, special, thing. It's just you literally are born with who you are. What are you talking↗

10:46:30Ian Malcolmabout? How do genetics manifest themselves with you as a human being? Can you answer that question?↗

10:46:36Speaker 63your mother and your father have what, twenty, is it twenty-two or twenty-three chromosomes? You tell me.↗

10:46:40Ian MalcolmWhat are you talking about? Okay, I mean, your mother and your father play into the genetics that beget you. How do those genetics manifest themselves in you as a human being? I'm trying, man, I'm trying.↗

10:46:52Speaker 63Okay, so like, now we're gonna, okay, so I guess what happens is you have, the chromosomes that, that, that, you're enjoined with, which I think is a spiritual you know, my belief is that, you know, spiritually, we're, we're handed down by God, but I don't think that, what those folks who-- I think I'm like completely aligned with you, like ninety-nine percent, but for some reason you can't handle this one percent. No, you're not.↗

10:47:22Ian MalcolmI'm aligned with you, you're not.↗

10:47:22Speaker 63You can't handle this one percent, which is like take the individual for what they do. We're going on what, what they do.↗

10:47:27Ian MalcolmYou're, you're struck. Okay, hang on, mute. Okay. So genetics would be get you as a person, and they would essentially manifest themselves in a varietal of fashions, which could be how you look, it could be how you can perform, how you think, how athletic you are, literally everything about you. If you haven't seen the movie Jurassic Park, it gives you a really nice overview, and we talk about taking frog DNA and how they merged it with dino DNA that they got out of a mosquito, right? This is how genetics work. Now, we could include, Emiru, who could walk through this at a much more technical level, right? But that's genetics. Now, a black person looks black, not because they're born on a Tuesday, but because of their genetics, right? Now, a person who is- Jewish will have a child that will have built into them essentially Jewish genetics. Now we can go into the specifics on mitochondrial DNA and all these other markers, right? But that is to, to suggest that somebody is only a thing based on religion when you've got a group of people that have been very specific to, to refer to themselves as a race of people. And I know that this is the case because, well, let me ask you the question. Was Einstein Jewish? Yes or no?↗

10:48:50Speaker 63Well, that's the way he identified himself.↗

10:48:52Ian MalcolmHe identified himself. Are you a man?↗

10:48:57Speaker 63Yes, because I have a- Are you a↗

10:48:58Ian Malcolmman because you're a man or because you identify as a man?↗

10:49:02Speaker 63No, I'm a man because I am a man, but there's no way to tell like this guy's a Jew. He probably was, but he could say he was anything.↗

10:49:10Ian MalcolmProbably was. This is okay. I'm glad that we've got to the comedy hour. We got Rabbi, Malice and his music, that was the music segment. Now we've got the stand-up comedy act. Yankee, please, please can you, let me let me let me ask you a really specific↗

10:49:28Speaker 60question. It's so easy. No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, guys. Could you visually distinguish between someone of Caribbean descent and someone from South African descent?↗

10:49:41Speaker 60You probably didn't hear me 'cause Converse was trying to talk at the same time I was. Colonel, if you were looking at two people, one person that was from Irish descent and one person from South African descent natively, could you visually distinguish the genetic difference between the two? South African, white,↗

10:49:59Speaker 63South African, Ethiopian, someone, oh, Ethiopian, oh, sorry, sorry, South, you said South African, I'm sorry. There's a shit ton of white people in South Africa. I know, got-- Wait,↗

10:50:09Ian Malcolmwait, this is actually an interesting question. So, interesting that he, he leaned on being white though. The people in South Africa that you are thinking of, Colonel, why, why, why is it that those people look so drastically different than sub-Saharan Africans? Why do you think that is?↗

10:50:28Speaker 63Because they have different genetics, they came from a different bloodline.↗

10:50:30@ehsanjoarderThere we go. Why is this↗

10:50:32Speaker 63so hard?↗

10:50:33@ehsanjoarderWe↗

10:50:33Speaker 63got- I'm not like arguing with you, I love you guys, I'm like 99% with you, but the 1% I'm telling you, you guys fucking hate me for every single time. No, you're not. Which is treat the individual like, give- No, it's grace. The 1% I'm asking for you is, is grace for everyone. I think what's happening here, no, you're↗

10:50:53Ian Malcolmasking for a conversation in which you↗

10:50:57Ian MalcolmI can't,↗

10:50:58Speaker 63I look, I'm, I'm not a-↗

10:51:02@ehsanjoarderHe's not Jewish. Someone tried to convince him he was, that's the issue, guys. You're not getting it. Someone told him he was a Jew. I don't understand why he doesn't know whether he is or isn't. He's not a Jew, but he, but he thinks he is. I was raised↗

10:51:12Speaker 63as a Messianic Jew. But, you know what? Wait a second.↗

10:51:16@ehsanjoarderOkay, now we're starting to understand. Seventh Day Adventist. Are you talking about Seventh Day Adventist?↗

10:51:22Speaker 63No, it was the Worldwide Church of God. You guys probably don't even know this, but it was, Herbert Armstrong, right? So back in the '70s, there was this guy, Herbert Armstrong. We had the Worldwide Church of God, we went to church on Saturdays, we, we, we practiced, we, we got baptized, we believed in Jesus Christ, and we got, and we- But we kept all the Jewish traditions. That's closest to the Messianic Jew that I can explain to you. Like↗

10:51:46@ehsanjoarderI said, I get it. 'Cause it doesn't By the way, they don't serve in the military. That should have been your other, clue, but, you know, I, I'm gonna go ahead and help you out here. So look, what happens is, is there, there are these groups of Christians, and then there's these groups of Jews. So I don't think that your group in particular was a Jewish group based on what you're saying. I could be wrong, but what I do think is that they wanted to attach themselves to the Old Testament, possibly because, or, or, you know, original what they would call↗

10:52:21@ehsanjoarderdegree of respect for the Jews as arbiters of the faith prior to them or whatever the case may be, and that's maybe why they call themselves Messianic Jews. If you believe in Jesus Christ and truly love Him with your heart, and you were raised to do so, you, my friend, thankfully, aren't a Jew. The, the reason why we were confused is because there are groups like Jews for Jesus, and that group was led by Moshe Rosen. And so when you named your guy, hopefully he doesn't have a crypto name, I'm not sure. But it sa- it sounded like you mentioned something Armstrong, probably not a Jew, and Moshe Rosen was a Jew, and he was sent by the Jews to create a group that would attract Christians who were starting to get wise to the fact that Jews hate Christ, okay? And this is why Judeo-Christianity doesn't make any sense, because they're tying two things that are, diametrically opposed. That is Jesus and the Jews. I don't disagree with that. Okay. I don't disagree with that, buddy. That, and so this whole thing about grace, you're right.↗

10:53:21@ehsanjoarderI think we're probably mostly in unison on this. The people that we will g-re-give grace to are those who denounce the identity of being a Jew. And here's why. You just mentioned something about, "Oh, what about those who are-- I'm assuming anti-Zionist." I think you used a different phrase. You know, the primary anti-Zionist groups are actually headquartered in Israel. Not only that, you'll see videos of them supposedly getting beaten, but there's not a single martyr amongst any of them, and the two primary groups are Satmar and Neturei Karta, okay? Satmar and Neturei Karta, you can look them up, and they claim to be anti-Zionist Jews, they claim to burn, they in fact do burn the Israeli flag. I think that's largely, you know, to larp and, you know, make a scene, but they show up to Palestine protests, there's one of them that's going around Talking about how Jews and Zionism have nothing to do with each other whatsoever, and this is of course what we hear from a lot of the Cucked Right when they say the same thing, but they wanna put the blame on, originally Zionist Christians, right? So this is part of the, the whole equation. So there's a lot of misinformation here. And you're-- the reason why you're seeking grace, that's a very Christian trait of you, and it's, it's noble. And, and unfortunately, what you're stuck in is a paradigm that a lot of us were↗

10:54:45@ehsanjoarderMaybe it was, where we didn't wanna play-- blame all Jews for the problem. The difference is, and this is very important, there's a guy named Dr. E. Michael Jones who's written about this a lot in many books, I forgot the specific book, I think it was, The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, that he wrote where he said, "The Jews doesn't mean all Jews. The Jews means collectively, in generalities. These are, you know, patterns, and this is what Ian was drawing your attention to. Ian was drawing your attention to..." Genetics, yeah, every single-- There's, there's black, there's white black people, right? Albinos. But the general majority of black people aren't white, right? So if, if someone brings that up, usually isn't a bad faith. But I recognized when I listened to what you were saying that I think what happened was, is that your particular, sect or, let's call it, you know, version of Christianity or whatever you were raised with, attached themselves to Jews to the point where they wanted to identify as such. And there are, you know Identify as the tribe of Israel and blah, blah, blah. So this is like an identity thing. It's kind of what happened with black people identifying as Moors and, you know, all this other stuff. It's just one of those things that unfortunately happens when we don't necessarily know all the details of, you know, history, which is pretty much everybody. So when I picked up on that, I saw that they were kinda going hard on you, and I really don't think that you have anything to worry about. Now, as far as who gets grace, I'm, I'm been Recognize it for what it is, which is a supremacist cult with actual supremacist doctrine that is codified in books, right? So when they say white supremacy exists and all this stuff, I, I always hated that, even as a so-called brown person, I hated that because I was like, "What are you talking about? What are the-- Where are the books of white supremacy? If there's white supremacy, that's just in-group preference, and that's a fucking good thing because they're running, they're supposed to run this country, otherwise these Jews are gonna take over and look what happened." Remember, is that these people, and there, there are names of these people historically, Benjamin Freedman, Mordecai Venun, the guy who spent, well, eleven plus years in solitary confinement, Bobby Fischer, Bobby Fischer, Talitha Hima, there's many of them. You know, Nicholas Donin. These are people who left Judaism, despised it for what it was, and spoke out against it, and some of them gave up their life and sacrificed the, the arbiter, in our opinion. So I just wanted to give you that clarity because a lot of I do have grace, but it's for those types of Jews, not these like Dave Smith types who say that, you know, it's bad to kill kids. That's like saying the sun is out. Everybody knows that.↗

10:57:24Speaker 63Well, I appreciate that, and I, I just wanna say the one thing that I was missing with Truth Teller was grace, and Dan Velezarian has, has done, I mean, he's good about, I think he, one thing I will give him a lot of credit on is pointing out what you pointed out, which is his enemy is Jewish supremacism↗

10:57:45Speaker 63That is a great, title that needs to get more, out there. However, I'm, I'm just one who's, who's like, "Look, listen, man, the, the, the information I think is perfect. The conclusions need to be tied to..." Like cults, I mean, like cults within these movements, 'cause I don't, I don't think, like when you, when you start putting that swamp down, then it, then it hits a lot of people that it probably shouldn't hit, who are probably just trying to live a life and, really don't give a fuck about anything, but I do, and, and I have time to do it, and the only reason I have time to do it 'cause I survived, all those combat deployments and all that shit. Anyway, love you guys,↗

10:58:29Ian Malcolmand↗

10:58:33Ian MalcolmThe, the line in the sand for me is very easy, when it comes to this subject of, of the quote-unquote good Jew, and what I mean by that is, are you in opposition to the genocide of the Palestinians? Yes or no? I can't tell you how few Jews in these rooms will just say, "Of course I am." So many of them. Well, let's first describe what does it mean to be a genocide. Well, can you show me different nation states that agreed upon a joint resolution that it was-- and it's all this bickering and squabble. Is it a genocide? Yes, there are tens of thousands of people. Oh, man, that's what happens when we let up people.↗

10:59:11Ian MalcolmI'm just actually gonna remove it. If you, if, if it is difficult for you to decry a genocide, you are a problem. If it is difficult for you to look at a massive set of data points on Jews having overrepresentation on power in virtually every structure in America, if you're unwilling to recognize that, that is a problem. If you say that I'm a bigot for noting it, that is a problem. And the reality is that most Jews that we have into these conversations, they're unwilling to say that. Now, any that are, any, any Jew-- I don't care, any of them Any Jew that will come into the room and say, "Yes, Jews shouldn't have all the power in the United States," which should be a no-brainer, because after all, the last forty years, everyone has been told that we need diversity and inclusivity and the, the, the entire DEI program, which, oh by the way, is largely pushed, guess what? By the very same group of people. Right? So we, we live in a system right now where Larry Fink, a Jew, who runs a fourteen trillion dollar company in terms of their, their control over assets that are under the management, and oh, by the way, a lot of that is your four hundred and one Ks, right? This Jew has no problem going out on a main stage with cameras rolling and saying, "Our organization is going to force function DEI programs into all of the Fortune five hundred thousand companies that we invest in, because we need to have them be forced to act this way, right, the way that they want it done. And then you look at the top of BlackRock and it's all Jews, so much so that before Larry Fink started it, in his prior role, his entire trading desk was referred to as the little Israel because he only worked with Jews. Right? So when you look at something like that, and you say, "Okay, so they get to have all that power, they get to demand on a stage that they're gonna use that power to create the world the way that they see it, which is largely gonna be weaponized against whites," oh, by the way. And then we don't get to turn around and say that's a problem. And when you talk about it with Jews, they say, "A, it's not happening. B, if they admit that it is happening, they say, 'Why isn't it a problem?' If you then demonstrate that it is in fact a problem, they will say, 'Well, maybe it's for some good purpose.'" And when you can demonstrate that, no, it serves no good purpose, it is demonstrably bad, Jews are demonstrably behind it, they will often say, "So why do you care?"↗

11:01:39Ian MalcolmAnd And you find yourself in this roundabout loop where the, the, the dog never catches its tail. The Jew never says, "Yes, that's a problem. I can understand why you complain about that." And so that is the problem that we are living in. And then you get no media coverage on these obvious issues because they control that. You talk about it on social media, you get censored and suppressed and shadowbanned because they control that. At every turn, you're just demoralized and all of this. And so yes, go find any Jew that will walk into this room and say, "Yes, the Jews control the media, they control technology, they control AI, they control social media, they control the politicians." I will happily say, "You are a good Jew, I am so glad that you are here." But you will find that that won't be one in ten. It's probably not one in fifty. It might not even be one in a hundred. It seems very uncommon, and yet the wildest part is, almost every space I go into, this group of people that are supposedly two percent of the country, make up like twenty-five percent of every space on X, which makes me ask the question, why is that? And is it organic? Do Jews just like talking about things on the internet, or is perhaps there's something artificial going on? But either way, I completely appreciate This isn't all Jews are anything. Not all people are anything. Yao Ming is a very tall Chinese guy. Most Chinese people are short. Right? There's tons of examples to everything. But we say that human beings have eight fingers and two thumbs. They have ten digits, if you wanna describe it that way. Right? Are there people with eleven? Yes. With nine? Sure. With three? Probably. With two and a half point five? Yeah. But at some point, we have to say people have ten fingers and ten toes or whatever it's going to be, right? And that is the reality is that most Jews won't talk about these things, and so we can't sit here and we can't say we're not going to call the, these people the Jews because, well, there are some that might observe it differently, and there's one Jew that-- No, it's a waste of time. And the fact that we've had this entire conversation, we've now wasted twenty minutes about this, demonstrates the waste of time. So this whole thing serves the microcosm for-- So I apologize for the rant, losing my voice. We're going to go to Andy, Andy, we will go for you, we will go to John, we will go to Yankee, 'cause I want to make sure I'm respectful to everybody, but then we're gonna wind things down.↗

11:04:05Speaker 64Yeah, I mean, I just wanted to go back to what you were talking about earlier, like post Charlie Kirk death with everything and Frontiers Rising, I mean, I feel like everyone, I mean, I feel like everyone kind of rose up on the right with their talking points after that, like Nick got bigger, Tucker got bigger, Candace got bigger, I just feel like- Everyone who was pushing the talking points, speaking out about Israel against the Jews, just got bigger. So I don't think there was anything inorganic about Fuentes' rise. I mean, everyone who was speaking out, just look at, I mean, just look at how much bigger Tucker got after that. Candace, Nick, it was everyone. So by the logic of saying, "Oh, Fuentes was artificially boosted after Charlie's death," I mean, there was just that ne-needs for every-- all the young people who were following Charlie, they were like, "Where are we gonna go?↗

11:04:51Speaker 64To split between Nick and Candace and to an other, lesser to an extent, Tucker as well. I've read articles, and I was reading an article about an Ole Miss Turning Point USA chapter, and they were talking about how almost all of the boys at that Turning Point USA chapter at Ole Miss now follow Nick, and almost all of the girls at that chapter follow Candace, and there, there was a female leader at that chapter, and she was saying in, in the interview that she used to watch clips of- Clips of Charlie when she was sad, but now that he's dead, she watches clips of Nick, and I think that's just the shift that with Charlie out of the picture, that they fractured, and I think that's why they took Charlie out because he was getting ready to turn on Israel, and this is exactly the outcome they anticipated. They pictured the movement fracturing in the way that it has. Now they knew that eventually there would be this kind of unity, hey, we're gonna go against Israel, we're gonna go against the Jews, but now everyone's turning in on On each other, and this is exactly what I think they manufactured a few weeks ago. I mean, it seemed like with the whole SPLC thing, you had the coordinated hits thing from Laura Loomer and all these people saying, "Oh, look, Nick's paid off by the SPLC, Candace's paid off." They- You had all of MAGA attacking Alex Jones and celebrating Infowars being bought out by The Onion, saying, "I'm glad Alex Jones got canceled." When four years ago it was Trump and all of these MAGA influencers that didn't have a platform until Elon bought X, so he saw all of that and it-- and I had a feeling that something coordinated was going on. It seemed like they were going at all of these big influencers, and now you have Laura Loomer saying, "I hate everyone in the woke Reich. They all suck." So you have the Jews relishing And all of this infighting, and it's all, everyone's just tearing each other apart over what, because people, over an election in Ohio, it's all stupid. We need to work together, and we're gonna roll around, it's gonna be twenty twenty-eight, and we're not even gonna be able to effectively field a candidate in the Republican primary at this rate if we can't come together at this point. I hope this all blows over in a week,↗

11:07:01Speaker 64but it's absolutely stupid.↗

11:07:04@ehsanjoarderYou think it was a coincidence that they dropped that New York Times article that was a fluff piece on Nick on September 9th? Coincidence?↗

11:07:15Speaker 64I mean, was it a fluff piece?↗

11:07:17@ehsanjoarderYeah, it was. He was proud of it. He was, he was actually promoting it. Even they acknowledged↗

11:07:22Speaker 65him. The fact that they even acknowledged him was a benefit to him.↗

11:07:27@ehsanjoarderBut September 9th, of all the fucking times in the universe that they could have picked. Did you think that's just a coincidence?↗

11:07:36@ehsanjoarderI mean, I don't know. Okay, and then do you think it's a coincidence that Dave, him, and Richard Spencer all came out within thirty-six hours and said that Israel obviously had nothing to do with it and you were dumb to think otherwise?↗

11:07:48Speaker 64I think Nick saying that is just because of his-- I think Nick probably knows that it was Israel, to be quite honest, but I think- Are you lying on purpose? I think that's more to do with, yeah, okay. What about, Andy, what about the time that he said, no, Andy, I gotta ask↗

11:08:04Speaker 60you a question. I gotta stop you, I gotta ask you a question because you're, you're saying, that Nick is providing some intellectual dishonesty for us, for whatever reason. But the question I wanna ask you, Andy, i-is a little bit more specific than that. So when you earlier, you said that, gosh, I, I'm sorry, I'm trying to catch my thoughts here, but He said↗

11:08:26@ehsanjoarderhe was lying because of his issues with Kirk, which means that, that, that could-- There's something that Nick↗

11:08:32Speaker 60Fuentes said too, when he-- Andy said that he believed Charlie Kirk was going to turn on Israel, but within a week of, Charlie Kirk's assassination, Nick Fuentes goes on the record and goes on his show blasting Charlie Kirk and saying that he would never turn on Israel. In fact, Charlie Kirk, was criticizing Bebe Netanyahy for not doing enough for the pro-Israel cause, that he would never turn against Israel.↗

11:08:57@ehsanjoarderHe flipped flop multiple times in that week because he also said that he was offered one hundred and fifty million, that he had four, four sources. Probably because Candice had three, so he made it like, "Oh, I have another source that corroborated that Netanyahu had offered him one hundred and fifty million." So in that very same week, he does both of those takes.↗

11:09:15Speaker 60It wasn't enough money, is what the argument was there. Yeah, I watched that episode, I was-- That, that was actually what's kind of got me to stop watching Nick Quintas. I was done with him at that point. But, you know, Andy, I, I just don't think, you know, you can have your cake and eat it too with your takes. I don't think you can project the way that you feel on things on Nick Quintas when he clearly says the opposite.↗

11:09:36@ehsanjoarderWell, the thing about these guys is that you guys have to have grace. I think the↗

11:09:45@ehsanjoarderBe a one night thing. You can't expect them to rip the bandaid off in one night. Dan is clearly the more honest individual between the two, they might both have their flaws in a variety of different ways, and people might find benefit in both of them, but there's a massive demarcation line between Dan and him in terms of doing real world action to one's detriment. In this situation, you know, this is, this, this is an individual who enriched himself off of this, and all of these, disaffected individuals are gonna be upset, and some of them are gonna probably get pretty crazy before they come to the conclusion. It's almost like the grief that you have with death, and that's why, you know, some people from Pilzarian's campaign were saying he's dead, and I know they meant figuratively, but honestly, I had been saying that privately to people eighteen months ago. It's just that, you know, things take time to trans↗

11:10:35@ehsanjoarderAnd it usually is hubris, especially hubris that's cloaked in religiosity. And I think that a lot of these individuals are, are gonna come to it, and I think we gotta be kind to them in the process because there is other homes, and they can develop their own homes, by the way. This is something I advocated for twenty years ago. Everybody should become a node of this information and, and learn more yourself, and don't take anyone else's word for it, especially anonymous people on the internet. So, you know, there's many other-- There's many other people Been talking about this well before him, that he learned from, including an individual I mentioned it a couple times, but this has been a what, fourteen hour space at this point probably, so, you know, this guy named Andrew Anglin. If you guys look into him, he finally came out against Nick last year, but he had allowed and, and encouraged Nick to steal his content, steal his takes, and basically be him, skin suit him, and take his style of comedy and his style of communication to the, the video realm and advocated for him and told- He had no problem with it until he went off the deep end. And, his name's Andrew Englund, I'm the guy who j-pilled him way back in two thousand eight. So when I was watching, "Fuentes vs. Reyes," I'm like, "Why does he sound so much like Englund?" But it's like a shitty version. So I wasn't ever impressed, whereas everyone else was impressed 'cause they weren't aware about this issue. So, and, you know, then I went back and looked through Englund's content, and He's completely financially destroyed, and this guy's made tens of millions of dollars, could have easily chucked over some money over to him to help him out to maintain his website. I mean, that guy's a legend, and nobody's even heard of him. And you know, when I told Bilzerian privately, Bilzerian immediately was like, "Who is that guy? Can you get in touch with him? Can you please let him know that I wanna help him out?" Just like that. So, I mean, to me, that's a huge, huge, and that's just one of many differences. I think, people are starting to see his character, and really it doesn't matter if he's a Fed or not, it's his character that nobody can deny. You know what I mean? So you can say, "Oh, yeah, he's not a Fed, that's fine." He might not be a quote unquote Fed, he might not be a compromised individual. It's hard to make sense of anything else otherwise. And that's why this↗

11:12:50@ehsanjoarderis Whatsoever. And I'm gonna take the individual who's willing to die, who keeps losing, who's sacrificing, and who's had everything in life that anyone would want that they could be bribed with. And that's a very clear answer. And by the way, they all have been promoting this other dude, Aaron Baker, who was in this space and admitted he's gay and couldn't really say that he was against gay dudes adopting, which would ninety-nine percent chance be a boy, that they would maybe or maybe not rape, right? Unfortunately. So this is the Individual that this Christian nationalist leader is promoting. I mean, right now, on his Telegram, and he thinks he's-- and, you know, some people, he might walk it back, when it gets really funny that he's now promoting two Jews and a gay guy over Dan Bilzerian. That's, that's crazy. And before Dan had attacked him, everyone acts like, "Oh, it's October seventh is when all of this happened. So when Dan attacked Nick is when it all happened." First of all, that's a bunch of bullshit, but let's, let's hold that↗

11:13:55@ehsanjoarderYou can't endorse him over Randy Fine or a gay guy, a gay conservative. What are we, what are we- Can we reduce the↗

11:14:02Speaker 60argument even further, Con, and just say, if Randy Fine was running against a donkey or, say, a moldy piece of bread, would you vote for the donkey or the moldy piece of bread over Randy Fine?↗

11:14:15@ehsanjoarderExactly. Doesn't it matter what's running↗

11:14:17Speaker 61against him?↗

11:14:18@ehsanjoarderYeah, exactly, but it doesn't have to. And this is a guy who invited you to his house. He too, he-- I'm sure he fed you and was kind to you, and you can't come out and say, "Yeah, man, I mean, like, I got a bunch of clippers who will work for free, like slaves, for a very long time. Hey, guys, can you guys clip his shit? Can you please start clipping his shit? I mean, he's, he's had some hot takes, man. We need to get a guy like that in Congress." Clearly, America First. And by the way, this whole thing about the, that girl, that girl was obsessed with him. Kind of weird, you know, this is the, this is the good thing about being an OG and literally j-pilling Nick's mentor. It's, it's gonna be impossible to get me to be like impressed with this dude. So, you know, that's one of the benefits that I had, that I, I, I feel, I feel bad for all you guys, because a lot of you guys are gonna feel like, "Oh my God, I've been orphan↗

11:15:10@ehsanjoarderYou're, you're an incredible individual by yourself. You have your own potentialities that you can contribute to the cause. There are many other people that are waking up. This is a spiritual awakening, it's across religious and racial lines. And at the end of the day, there's many other people that you can come across and help and actually be more impactful with, instead of being forced to be a slave of an individual who treats you like rabbis treat their, what, chickens? I mean, I mean, where are we at? You know what I mean? This is pretty damn bad, how Treated, and, you know, that's why I've tried to handle it grace. You know, people heard me kinda with it, with it, with say chimping out earlier or whatever. I saw a lot of comments calling me black and, you know, using the N word and all that. That's cool, but the reason I had to do it that way is because they've been trained to act this way, because it's, there's no consequences, and they don't get pushback. Most people are very rational and they talk very calmly,↗

11:16:02@ehsanjoarderand, you know, they're, Anyway, you have to sometimes slap 'em around, and then they all got in a little room and cried about it afterwards, and that's good, because somebody's gotta do it. And that's kind of what Dan represents in the political realm. Somebody's gotta do it. Somebody's gonna slap people around, tell 'em the fucking truth, not play footsie with people, not play popularity games, not be like, "Oh, well, they're all, you know, pro-Israel boomers, so they'll accept this gay guy, but he can't say anything about Jews." You know? It↗

11:16:40@ehsanjoarderRight? They couldn't promote, promote Casey Pugh because he's a loser, but this guy who's polling one percent, hey, I wanna talk to him. I mean, you can't even make this up. And this is why it was important that Dan did what he did. How much longer is he gonna hold his tongue? And it was important for someone like him to do it, 'cause all the rest of us have lost our accounts before anyone was even awake, decades ago, over and over and over. And so, by the way, since the other guy brought it up, I wanted↗

11:17:07@ehsanjoarderto An article from ten years ago that's gonna help you today, because they keep doing the same shit, the same pattern and repeat. Myth of the good Jew, Hanvers, and you'll be able to kinda decipher this stuff now from that point on. And last point I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna get off the mic and leave the room, and thank you Ian for another great space. I think I'm gonna need you to help me next in two weeks to do a JP space. I won't have my original co-host with me, so if you wanna, if you wanna be a↗

11:17:41@ehsanjoarderget right with God. Everybody has an opportunity. It doesn't have to be organized religion. You can call Him this flying spaghetti monster. Back when I was young, they used to say, "Oh, how do you know it's not the flying spaghetti monster?" Well, maybe it is, okay? But it's one, it's one flying spaghetti monster that created us all. How about that? Right? So reach out to God in your own way, in your own words, and ask Him to get involved in your life and do what He tells you, 'cause He's gonna tell you something↗

11:18:10@ehsanjoarderAnd you'll see how much more effective you can become, right? And it's not for every single person to have millions of followers or to have a major political role, but everybody has a role in this. And the lines of good and evil are, are, the demarcating lines are happening. You know that Lucas Gage fucked me over two years ago, and I've kept my fucking mouth shut about it, and he finally had the audacity, 'cause he couldn't control himself, to get in the space, and he started like lording over everybody, like, "Look, I, I↗

11:18:39@ehsanjoarderAnd then I was like, "Oh my, I've been waiting for you. I've been waiting for you patiently, and I've been very kind and, and, you know, you know, deferential to your former position as twenty twenty-four Anti-Semite of the Year." Which, you know, I crowned him, and other people probably should crown him as that, that's what he was. And so I kept my mouth shut for two fucking years. But eventually, the, the good versus evil, and you'll notice with him too, you know, gravitating to the Adam Green↗

11:19:09@ehsanjoarderEvidence that the Creator exists, they refuse, and they've had personal instances where God steps in and shows them that He exists, and they're still turning away from Him. And that's why they do these arrogant things that they think that it's all calculated, and, "Oh, I'm gonna get cool with this guy, and then I'll get cool with that guy." And you see how scared he was against Dan. You know, I, I don't know nothing. I don't know nothing about Dan. I got seven thousand followers. I have no, quote unquote, official influence. Yet↗

11:19:37@ehsanjoarderme Talking to Dan and telling him the truth, but Homeboy had to like tiptoe around the fact that he tried to throw Dan under the bus and get him fucked up when he was in this space. You can go back and listen to it, shit was gay as fuck, but you know why? Because he doesn't have God. He's not, he's more scared of Dan than he is God. And that's why it's so easy for these people to lie and manipulate and do all this other crazy shit. And so get right with God, you have your relationship, nobody can do nothing to you, including all the Jews on earth, and that's my testimony, because I'm dealing with some really heavy, dark shit right now in my personal life, and God keeps stepping in and fucking the Jews up. Now, I think they put me through shit. I mean, but, you know, at the end of the day, when push comes to shove, when that moment of truth happens Their, all their plans are ruined, and little ol' me, little ol' me, by myself, with God, I'm able to topple them over and over and over, and eventually, they're gonna fail, and that's what's happening on a global level. So, that's what I'll leave with, and sorry for being on my soapbox, but, yeah, I've been advocating for this for a while. Get right with God. Good night, everybody. And thank you again.↗

11:20:49Speaker 65Hey, Ian, you called me before, but I didn't come up. Just if I could jump in quickly.↗

11:20:55@ehsanjoarderYeah, of↗

11:20:55Ian Malcolmcourse.↗

11:20:57Speaker 65Yeah, and bravo to Converse. Super, super intelligent superstar who's got a lot, not only just for this bravo, performance that he gave, but for years I've been following him and with Dr. Emeka Jones, as he, he cited. But here's the thing, I wanna tie this into before what the colonel was saying. All kudos to the colonel for his military service I don't wanna be harsh on him, but the point about that Converse was making is actually right. So what Colonel was saying was, "Oh, well, you know, his criticism of Bill Farian is that he doesn't have the grace." Okay, theoretical. But what does he-- what did the Colonel say that grace means? Well, you're not catering to the good Jews, right? Okay, the two percent, right? The, the good Jews, the, the, the good Jews that want to be against genocide. And what I wanted to say to that was, you take a- Step back and you look, he's got the cart, not just him, but a lot of people, maybe what we would call Judaized Protestants, you know, or Christian Zionists, that they have the cart before the horse. Okay? So let's look at the big picture. Jews are two percent of our country, right? And we're talking about our political system, okay? So,↗

11:22:10Speaker 65why would it be Dan Bilzerian or anybody else of any religion or anything should be catering to this- Subgroup of the special people, right? Okay. If the, the Jews are two percent of our population, they deserve two percent of our political power or even less than two percent, okay? And yet somehow we have an entire Congress controlled by them. We had the previous administration, four hundred and fifty-seven Jews in the walking cadaver Joe Biden's administration, and lo and behold, oh, it's a different group of Jews, but they're actually controlling Rolling the fact that we're funding a genocide and now invading multiple countries on behalf of Israel. So I just wanna make the point that Dan Bilzerian, the thing that I, I think, and I'm bring, just bring it to that, back to him is The reason why it's so consequential is precisely because of that. So, I'll, I'll give the example of Dr. David Duke's campaign back in nineteen ninety, okay?↗

11:23:14Speaker 65and what happened back then was 'cause he had an atmosphere with the media and the party establishment in his state and nationally who had a lot of power. So, I don't agree with Dr. Duke. He's actually, refuted and disavowed his KKK connection. That's, Absolutely outrageous. But Dr. David Duke failed. He came very close to winning the Senate race in 1990 because mainly you had not just the political establishment, the party, Republican Party, in the state level and the national level, but also mainstream media, and they practiced what we call dynamic silence on him. So if you were in Louisiana at the time, you wanted to vote, well, you're not really sure, is he running or what? Who would know about it? Now, the good thing with Bilzerian now is that We are in a totally different environment. The parties are basically, defunct. They have no power, and the mainstream media is dead too. So we have the opportunity for Dan Bilzerian to get his message out, and even if he doesn't win, but there's a chance that he could win, you know, that could be the Overton window shift that, that we-- that people didn't get, back in the nineties. And the thing about Bilzerian, I wanna say in favor of him,↗

11:24:28Speaker 65He actually, the thing that's different about his campaign, he's not complaining about Zionists, he's not complaining about, the Israelis, okay? What is he doing? He's talking about Jewish power, and that's the thing that they can't stand. And that's the reason why they're using Nick Fuentes, who's turned right to, to get at him and, and gauge to get him another one who's flipped the coin on how much money they got his thirty pieces of silver. Now he's gonna-- They're gonna try and attack Dan Bilzerian. Why? Because Dan Bilzerian, okay, does he have grace? No, he's- I'm not catering to the good Jews. Oh, you wanna include the good Jews in the campaign? You know what I say? Fuck the good Jews, okay? Let the Jews, the good Jews, the bad Jews, have the two percent of political power that is coming to them in this country, not the ninety-nine point nine percent, okay? So Bilzerian is straight talking, but he actually does make the point that I don't hate Jews, I'm not trying to kill Jews, I'm not trying to harm Jews, we're not trying to hurt Jews, but we're trying to We're trying to re-get our government to reflect the reality of our political landscape. You know, if you have two percent of the population, you get two percent of the power. You don't get ninety-nine percent of the power. So even if Vilsari loses, I think it's a, a- I think it's a, a very consequential moment, 'cause after all, in the future, we're not gonna have parties. We're not gonna have mainstream media, it's almost dead now anyway. We're gonna have individual people who might have enough money to run, like Dan Bilzerian, and they're gonna be putting out ideas, among them might be an idea about, hey What, what is this Jewish behavior that promotes pornography, that promotes abortion, that promotes sodomy, that promotes, promotes destruction of families, black families, white families? So those are the kind of issues that I, I think make Dan Bilzerian's campaign a winner already.↗

11:26:34Ian MalcolmNo, very well stated and, Brassy, I hope you, come into these spaces more often, would love to, to hear more from you. It was very well, put together and presented. as a, a final little hand, let's go to, to John Blackwell and see what John's got to say, and then we'll wrap up the space.↗

11:26:52Speaker 66Hey, and thanks for letting me, talk on the space. Yeah, let me tell you why Dan Bazerian is running a losing campaign. So the majority of voters are what↗

11:27:03Speaker 66Normies aren't interested in hearing, "We should be killing Israelis. Send me to Israel to kill Israelis." Nobody is trying to hear that, even though everyone on this space may want to wage war on Israelis and Jewish hegemony. That's not a ballot box winning message. That is what the media likes to call low IQ anti-Semitism. Normies aren't just not going to digest this rhetoric and then go vote for it. We do need a divorce from Israel, and we do need Jewish Americans to drop their blind loyalty to, loyalty to Israel.↗

11:27:42Speaker 66Even American Jews need to be America first. But this movement goes absolutely nowhere if we talk the way Dan Vizerian does about Jewish supremacy. We must be measured, and we absolutely must be calculated. Dan's heart Is absolutely in the right place and his overall mission, but he's not presentable to the overwhelming majority of voters in his district. The majority are likely boomers that are just now considering, rethinking the "Israel is our greatest ally" propaganda that they've been spoon-fed.↗

11:28:20Speaker 66He's a losing candidate because he has a losing message. Therefore, Nick isn't going to deliver an endorsement on this. Do Groypers want Dan Balzarian to beat Randy Farn? Of course they do. Fuck Randy Farn. When he announced he was running, I promise you, Groypers were excited. I was excited. A millionaire? That is Israel critical. Thank you. That is literally what we've been asking for. That's who we need, and that's what we want. But I do think Dan would be better off using his audience, his thirty million followers conglomerate across his platforms, to back America First candidates with Nick Quintas, not against him, not claiming to be the leader of an America First movement, and then saying "fuck America First" on this very space. That's fucking bullshit. Alright? At the end of the day, this space exists only because you guys are upset that Nick won't endorse Dan.↗

11:29:25Speaker 60No, that's not what happened over the past twelve hours at this space. It is complete disillusion from reality. So,↗

11:29:33Ian Malcolmwell, and, and so why don't, why don't we do this actually? And, and John, I appreciate that, I appreciate you stop, stopping by, and I apologize for the, the wait, we had, a lot of- Not at all,↗

11:29:41Speaker 66I appreciate being able to speak. Thanks for- Yeah, no,↗

11:29:44Ian Malcolmab- absolutely. And, and look, I, I, I think it was interesting, because perhaps that was But anti the, the, the path that Dan laid forward, and, and so not necessarily pro Nick, I suppose, but it was, you know, maybe a, a contrary opinion for, Dan Bilzerian. So why don't we do the following? We'll go to Yankee, let him basically provide the flip side of the coin, and then what I would love to do, if he is up for it, since we have Emiro here, or, Veracity, if either of you guys would like to put together some of the closing words here, Some, some kind of silver linings and white pills. Okay, perfect, Emiro. so Emiro will be the last person and, he can close everything down. But Yankee, why don't you go first and, and give maybe an alternative view to John's?↗

11:30:34Speaker 60Sure. So the first statement that he made was, Dan Balzarian doesn't have a chance to win against Randy Fine, leaving our only alternative, with Andrew Baker, whom- The last election cycle barely got three thousand votes, and it's currently operating with a ninety thousand dollar war chest against Randi Fine's three million, of which he still has seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars available for the next few months to go and campaign against Andrew Baker, who doesn't pull votes in his particular district anyways, while on the other hand, Dan Bulezian does have some large backers, is wealthy, and the largest contributor to any election campaign Campaign has always been money, every single time. Every, current elected official will tell you money is the thing that gets them elected every single time. And a lot of these people do capitulate to APAC so that they can get that type of funding, not just from APAC itself, but from the other Jewish lobbies and their lo- and their donor lists, which are more important than the lobbies themselves. So to say he doesn't have a chance is kind of disingenuous. And no, I don't think anyone really cares about Nick Quentas' endorsement, for Dan Bulserian. I think Dan Bulserian even himself,↗

11:31:52Speaker 60prior to, no one interrupted that, no one interrupted you, no one interrupted you, John. Don't spurge out yet. You'll have your chance to crash out here in a moment. No one said, especially Dan Bilzerian, that he wanted Nick Fuentes' endorsement. No one in this room got upset because Nick Fuentes wouldn't endorse Dan Bilzerian. Dan Bilzerian himself came out to, or was today or yesterday, whatever, and said Nick Fuentes was a "fet," and the reason for that was for the subversive behavior he's ex-exhibited over the past, I don't know, forever. Because he only attacks people on the inside. So if that's your take on that, great, but I, I don't think it's a really accurate one.↗

11:32:37Ian Malcolmgo for it, John, if you wanna respond to that.↗

11:32:40Speaker 66I mean, I just... I said what I had to say, you know? Basically, Dan doesn't have a winning message. He is a Very popular person, you know, we all know who Dan is for the last ten years. We all thought he was the coolest fucking guy on the planet. Is he a really popular person?↗

11:32:57Speaker 60Because he↗

11:32:57Speaker 66has↗

11:32:58Speaker 60a losing message.↗

11:33:01Speaker 66His, the, the overall Israel critical Jewish hegemony is the same reason, you know, we're all in this, this group chat, we all agree on that same thing, but you can't have a guy say he wants to go, be sent to go kill Israelis. I, I hope we go to war↗

11:33:20Speaker 60with Israel, so I don't know.↗

11:33:22Speaker 66Dude, I mean, I think we all kinda have a point. Me too, we need a divorce. Does it look like American troops going up there? The whole QAnon movement↗

11:33:29Speaker 60was that we're saving Israel for last. There's a whole list of- Like spurt out patriots of autism that believe that they are participating in a political system so that they can eventually go to war with Israel. I, I don't understand your position that the United States isn't completely and totally against Israel and saying, "Oh, he wants to go over there and be on the front lines to fight Israel." In fact, I think most veterans at this point know, considering the war on terror after nine eleven, if the United States of America declared war on Israel and issued a draft, I would go ahead and volunteer At that point. So to say he wants to go do that, that, that's,↗

11:34:09Speaker 60Randy Fine says that we should kill every Palestinian in Gaza. You wouldn't, if there was a, if there was a donkey that was running for office against Randy Fine, and your choices were the donkey and Randy Fine, are you gonna tell me that you're gonna choose Randy Fine, or are you gonna vote for the goddamn donkey?↗

11:34:31Speaker 66You know, I, I, I think maybe you're missing the statement. I think we're saying we live in reality and we're not having to, to vote between a donkey and Randi Fyne. I think, I think all Nick is saying is simply-- Right. So you, you, you would-- He doesn't have, he doesn't have the-- But Randy Fine↗

11:34:48Speaker 60has the highest chance to win, maybe you should vote for him, the Jewish Democrat, like Nick Quinta suggested↗

11:34:53Speaker 66that you do. Well, I'm not in the district of forty thousand people, so Dan's gotta convince forty thousand people. The district isn't↗

11:34:58Speaker 60of forty thousand people, there's eight hundred and fifty thousand people that live there. Only forty thousand people voted the last election cycle because only ten percent of constituents generally vote within their Representatives. So what are we↗

11:35:13Speaker 66gonna have? 40. So what are we gonna have, 40 to 60,000 voters here?↗

11:35:20Speaker 60Ask a concise question. What do you mean?↗

11:35:24Speaker 66Well, you said only 40,000 people voted last time, I'm, I'm just, I'm just quoting on that. We're talking about↗

11:35:33Speaker 60You said the district only has forty thousand people. I said, no, only forty thousand people voted last election cycle. That doesn't mean there's forty thousand people that live there.↗

11:35:42Speaker 66Correct. So I'm just, I guess my question is, are you expecting a hundred thousand people to stand up out of their chairs after, the Dan Bilzerian speeches of, "We should be going to kill Israelis," "Send me to go kill, kill Israelis." I'm just saying it's not a winning message.↗

11:36:01Speaker 60I think that's your opinion, and I think it's wrong.↗

11:36:04Speaker 66Okay. Well, you know, like I said, we want Dan to win, we don't want Brandi Fine to win. But why would we publicly endorse somebody who's going to make it more difficult to have this conversation in the open? That's the point. Is Dan being on the↗

11:36:29Ian Malcolmstage heard speak? Dan heard the conversation by↗

11:36:39Speaker 66speaking this way. John,↗

11:36:47Speaker 60John Maybe we don't need politicians in the way that we've been served politicians in the past, you know, fifty years. Maybe we're sick and tired of maintaining candidates that are room that↗

11:36:59Speaker 66they have to win, yes to↗

11:37:00Ian Malcolmwin, and he's doesn't have a win. And so John, John, that's too abrasive. So John, I'm, I'm gonna try again. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you think that Aaron Baker's the, the better candidate compared to Dan Bildearian, or you think that neither of the two is ideal and there should be a third person? I don't know enough about the gay,↗

11:37:17Speaker 66to be honest with you. You know, I, I, I, I don't know if he, if, can, can you answer is he Israel critical?↗

11:37:27Ian MalcolmNo, he had a, a very difficult time. I think everybody should go back and listen to this portion of the space because there's been a lot of people that have been suggesting this exact issue that, that Bilzerian is going into a district where there was already another candidate, and I, I knew it was somebody that, Michael Rextonwald had, had supported with Azapac, and, I mean, kudos to them because he was apparently anti, APAC, but when asked the question, "Who's the most dangerous nation?"↗

11:37:56Ian MalcolmIn terms of, of its threat to the United States of America, he said, "Well, it's not China." And then we were like, "Okay." He's like, "And it's not Russia." And then I asked him, I said, "How many countries do we have to go through it's not before we can get to it's Israel?" Yeah, yeah, he said, "That's↗

11:38:12Speaker 66definitely a pla- that's, that's definitely a gay message, I'll tell you that. That's, that's not aggressive enough." He endorses gay↗

11:38:19Speaker 60marriage, is adopting↗

11:38:22Speaker 66Yeah, of course. no doubt. You're not gonna hear me say that I'm voting for the guy, 'cause I don't even live in Florida, I live in, in Texas. We're talking about Dan Buzasari in the candidate. We can't talk about one without the other, just like we can't talk about Dan Buzasari without talking about Randy↗

11:38:37Speaker 60Byne. These things are intrinsically connected.↗

11:38:40Speaker 66R-right, well, we're really here because of the Fed jacketing. You know, the, the Fed jacketing of people on very little evidence. So if he never said that, I wouldn't be here complaining about Dan. Wouldn't that be ridiculous? Say that again?↗

11:38:52Speaker 60So if he hadn't said that, you wouldn't be here complaining about Dan.↗

11:38:58Speaker 66Would I not be here? yeah, Dan is espousing that Nick Puentes is a Fed once again. Correct.↗

11:39:04Speaker 60So if he didn't say that, would you be in this space disavowing, Dan Blazarin's position or campaign against Randy Fine?↗

11:39:16Speaker 66yeah, because he's going, like I said, he's a losing candidate because his overall message is ridiculous and it's too abrasive. The normies aren't gonna digest that and stand up and go vote for it. They're gonna say, "Oh, that's actually Hitler right there. We're, we're, we're trying to distance ourselves from Hitler." Obviously, we all want Hitler, right? We all want that, we all want somebody who's going to destroy and ev-evaporate Israel and the dual-dual loyalty in our politics. We all want that, right? But we don't get there with the rhetoric that Dan Bilzerian has, right? Dan has a lot, a lot of money and a lot of influence, and I, he's, he would be better helping make, be a kingmaker, right? Rather than ta- doing this himself, he doesn't have, have the chops, he doesn't have the skill set. Rowe is a gambler, okay? He shoots guns and he, he's a gambler, okay?↗

11:40:14Speaker 60Your choices are Aaron Baker, Dan Polzarian, or Randy Fine.↗

11:40:20Speaker 66Yeah, I'm going Aaron Baker right now. Okay, you just said you weren't gonna vote for him. Wait, wait, you↗

11:40:26Ian Malcolmsaid, you said that you couldn't vote for, at your terms, the gay, but you would vote for the gay over Dan Bissellarian, who has a one percent chance↗

11:40:34Speaker 60to win. The, the-- But↗

11:40:37Speaker 66you guys wouldn't support Kucinich in Ohio for the same reasons. Sorry. The, the most important position in America is the executive branch, that is the presidency, and in twenty twenty-eight, we need an America first individual who is Israel critical in that position. Dan Buziyan hurts that ability to reach that twenty twenty-eight executive. Because of what he says about Israel wanting to kill them, okay? That's the exact same↗

11:41:04Ian Malcolmargument, seemingly, that Nick Fuentes is making about, Ohio and that it's of, of benefit, I suppose, to vote for the Jew, right?↗

11:41:14Speaker 66It is much better than having Vivek Ramaswamy. Well, I wouldn't deny, and look, I mean,↗

11:41:20Ian MalcolmI, I, I would of course put my support behind Casey Pugh, and we tried to do what we could to bring attention to his campaign. But that's basically the suggestion is that they are in a position where they should vote for the Jew now so that we can, they can hopefully at some point in the not-so-distant future get a better candidate elected, which is what you're saying, that you'd prefer that Bilzerian drop out of the race so that perhaps we can get a anti-Israel presidential candidate in, in two more↗

11:41:46Speaker 66Yeah, correct.↗

11:41:47Ian MalcolmThat's, that's fair. Alright, well, I, I don't think we're probably gonna, you know, bridge the gap between the two of you guys, but why don't, for the sanity of my eyeballs, why don't we do two things? Why don't we go to, Amiru for some final words on just the psychology of today, and then what I would love to do is go to Veracity, for some positive, completely conclude the space remarks, on making the world a better place if we could↗

11:42:14Speaker 62Yeah, of course. And I gotta say, I completely disagree with John. And Yankee was hinting at something when he said that we may not need something like, something to the effect of like, we may not need the typical kind of politician. When you look at someone like Trump, we're already in that territory where we don't have typical politicians anymore, right? I mean, Cash Patel can't even see what's in front of him. So we got a whole, you know, breed of new politicians arising, and, you know, influencer types are, are, are actually good candidates. And so Dan Bilzerian, just based on that factor, is a good, is a, is definitely better than Aaron. What's his name, Aaron, I can't even remember his name anymore, Aaron Faggot, right? Doesn't matter really.↗

11:42:55Speaker 62that's like, I mean, when, when Dan came into the room, Aaron was quiet, and then he left. So, I mean, that tells you everything you need to know. He has nothing to say to him, he doesn't hold a candle to him. So, and we're not gonna vote for Randy Swine, like whatsoever. he's, maybe he's a little bit aggressive, but so what? Like, this is a serious problem, it's not, this isn't a, a good situation now, right? And we need someone to kind of illustrate the urgency. So I think he's doing a, a great job, and no matter what happens, it's good for our movement. And, about the whole, you know, it's the juice thing with the kernel that came up, right?↗

11:43:42Speaker 62The thing is, is that what's undeniable is, it's Jewish supremacy, and everyone can get behind that. And I've seen people's faces change when I say it's the Jews, and then I switch over to Jewish supremacy, and they're like, "Oh yeah, I can get behind that, 'cause they have the white supremacy reference, and so they can easily get in that mindset, yeah, all kind of supremacy is bad, otherwise I'm supporting other kinds of supremacy." So they get behind that. And then you ask, "Well, what, who are the Jewish supremacists?" And frankly, it's most Jews. So what do you want me to do? Like, it's not our fault, right? If, if, if every Armenian American killed his wife, and I said, "The Armenians in America, they all are wife killers," like, is that my fault or is that their fault? It's the result of their actions. When you look at what Jews are, religiously or culturally or ethnically, every aspect of those includes Jewish supremacy, you know, of some kind. So only the exception to, they're like the, the good redeemed Jew is always the exception to the rule, and that's just an unfortunate situation that we find ourselves in. So at the very least, we can say Jewish supremacy, most of them are that, so that settles it.↗

11:44:51Ian MalcolmThat's really, really well stated there, Amiru, and, and everybody should give Amiru a, a follow. Wonderful, commentator, and really understands, not only psychology, but the inner workings of the human mind in a really interesting way. So big fan of his, as I am of Mr. Yankee, I wanna give him a big shout out. so really quickly, before we go to the last little final words here from Veracity for these parting words, and Veracity, what I would love, again, some uplifting messages, and, and I↗

11:45:20Ian MalcolmA big set of shout-outs and see if I can remember all of the people from Christopher Wood and Mr. Truth Teller who helped to make this possible to begin with, to all of the guests that came through here, some of the really special ones included, with Leonardo Joni, with Dan Belsarian, with Lucas Gage, with Adam Green. We had Keith Woods up here, which is the first time I've gotten the chance to speak to him, and I've been a big fan of his work for a long, long, long time. And there were so many others throughout↗

11:45:51Ian MalcolmWhether you were listening in, you were contributing the purple pill, you came up on the panel, you asked some questions, if you are participatory in these conversations, you're sincerely making a difference in the world, and you're doing so towards the thing about the world that I believe can actually fix the world for everybody, right? Because if we can get rid of this supremacist mindset that's essentially a parasite on the economic prosperity, it is demoralizing to our culture, to our religion, to our ethos, to our civilization, if we can remove that That boot from the neck of our societies, everyone will benefit, including the Jews, for what it's worth, because if we don't have these conversations, it is going to be get more and more animus and animosity and frustrations, 'cause you can't steal from somebody forever while saying you can't be upset with me. And if you do it for long enough, inevitably you're asking for something Connecticut, which is what Connecticut and South Dartmouth, kinetic, which we don't want. We oppose that, right? And so in order to do so, we're gonna try and speak through these issues, try and bring more attention to them, try to make the world a better place. So with that being said, I wanna say to everybody, certainly, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you are in the world, God bless for everything that you are, God speed, we are going to win. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to Mr. Veracity for some closing remarks.↗

11:47:10Speaker 65Thanks, Ian. By the way, just the pronunciation is Veracity, like Veracity, okay, and I think it's a tribute to you, but also some of the amazing contributors. I just want to say that, you know, Gilad Atzmon, the, Jewish, musician, super-talented writer, a sort of a righteous Jew, has said that the, the, the, the definition of Jewish power is the ability to get you never to talk about Jewish power. And so five years ago,↗

11:47:52Speaker 65it was basically if you even said the word Jew, you weren't welcome anywhere. Forget YouTube, forget Twitter Any other social spaces. So I just want all of us to think about this, no matter where you fall on the, on the spectrum, that we are actually making great progress. Why? Because we don't wanna harm Jews, we don't wanna hurt Jews, right? We want Jews to be better people. Ideally, I'd like a Jew to convert to Christianity, okay? Now, but the thing is, we're getting there because we talk about it. If we allow Jewish behavior To get to the peak of power in this country, then we are doomed, okay? We have a country that is destroying itself, destroying our families, destroying our lifestyle, destroying our,↗

11:48:43Speaker 65brainwashing our women into thinking they don't need a husband to have a child. They're brainwashing young men into believing that sodomy is a lifestyle, and this endless point. But there is hope, and I think the hope is here in this space and others like I like it, but especially this, and Truth Teller is amazing. the fact that he's paid, the idea that he'd be paid by the ADL, that, that was the biggest laughing moment of the whole evening. But this space is the proof that progress is being made, and it's just my opinion, that Dan Bilzerian is a product also of that, because what is Dan doing? He's talking honestly about Jewish power. He doesn't wanna harm Jews, he doesn't wanna hurt Jews, he don't wanna kill Jews, right? He wants to talk about their behavior and help that they could maybe even change their behavior, but more importantly, that the political power in this country is reflective of the people who live here, okay? So kudos to you, Ian, super, super space. I wanna just echo what Converse said, that as the final word. The idea is, look, get in touch with God if you can, okay? Because the point is, we don't wanna keep fighting with each other. I happen to think that most of the people who spoke tonight can agree on the big pictures, okay? And that would be the biggest shame if all of us, which we agree on, who agree on so much, would wind up, you know, oh, supporting Nick's attack. It's obvious an attack against a big leap in American politics, which is a major league politician who has the nerve, God bless him, and the courage to talk about Jewish power in a way that, oh, it's a- Oh, it's kinda shocking, but guess what? Five years from now, it'll be nothing, just like five years ago, we couldn't even say the word Jew. And then we'll get to back to a country that represents the people who live here. God bless everybody, thank you all for this opportunity, and, I would say, just crisis, Christ is King, Inshallah, we'll meet again soon.↗

11:50:52Ian MalcolmChrist is King, and the veracity, the veritasity of the things that you just said and the truth that you just spoke are absolutely beautiful, my friend. Thank you. And, we will, we absolutely will win. We will continue having these conversations, trying to bring more truth to everybody's doorstep, and in doing so, we'll hopefully embolden and empower individuals to talk and to speak and to live in that very veritas that is the truth that we all know to be the world in which we are living in. So I wanna wish everybody, again, as always- Please, God bless, Godspeed, we are absolutely going to win. We'll continue having a bunch of additional conversations this week. I look forward to seeing everybody there. I will be moving over, I hope you all do as well. Mr. Truth Teller is live. I'm gonna be going over there to listen in to him, one of the best and brightest on this entire application. We'll look forward to all of you in the next phase, in the interim, I'm gonna get a glass of water. I will see you guys in the next conversation, and until then, again, Godspeed↗