Opposing Radical Tyranny With Author & Politician @TomKawczynski

1:19Ian MalcolmWell alright everybody, hopefully, the audio is coming in crystal clear here. And if so, we will kick off this conversation. I think that, our guest speaker, who I'm very excited to connect with, who I've done several spaces in the past with, and am humbled. That he was interested in, in having a third, if not maybe even a fourth,↗

1:45Ian Malcolmand this is a individual I have a lot of great respect for, and I say that not only because, he is an author, written multiple books, also a, a very frequent, podcaster, kind of lecturer, speaker, he's been out, there we go, another individual coming up here, has been out, advocating, for truth and righteousness and let's say, a, a freedom fight Writer, for decades at this point. And in the process, has also been, a little bit kind of like Curtis Stone. Tom's been living kind of off the land, in his own rendition, I suppose, probably the right way to think about it. So he's been off grid outside the main cities. He's been advocating for such for a long time. and part of the reason for that is that he has recognized that the government was going to be doing essentially exactly what we are now witnessing. he's feared things like government tyranny and overreach, which we will certainly talk about, and isn't it a fitting time to have this conversation? Because not only do we see the, at this point, undeniable reality that is Jewish supremacy in the West It isn't just Zionism that is a shrug off, this is, this is Jewish tyranny, is what it is. it's essentially, as Truth Teller would say, it's communism, and I think there's a very good reason. Tom, I'm gonna send you a co-host invite. So glad that you're here, my friend.↗

3:16Ian MalcolmTruth Teller has, has been making the claim the last week or two or three, that the United States is essentially a communistic regime at this point. And the first time he said it, I thought it sounded But if you really start to think through the suggestion, I mean, what is communism? It's essentially in practicality, not in ideology in Marx's writings, right? Marx and Engels, and don't forget that connection to Moses Hess, the author essentially an origin of Zionism. But communism, the way that it tends to play out, is the people in charge taking everything, and just like in Orwell's Animal Farm, basically living above everyone else, taking control control of everything, the means of production, utilizing those to further entrench their own political and economic power and prestige and luxury, and in the process, because they are withering away at the genuine free market, which in my belief system anyway, generally, not always, but generally, the free market in a ecosystem in which good ideas can flourish, the good ideas should rise to the top. Those that are the most clever, the most creative, the most inventive, they should be able to have those ideas and their, their genius, their brilliance should shine. But when you're in communism, that doesn't happen. Because what you end up getting is essentially what people have been calling for a long time now, crony capitalism, and it's a good way to describe the West at this point. I mean, we look around and you've got Eric Trump's book, New York Times bestseller. Can you name a single person who bought it or read it? I know I can't. I know a lot of people that are very politically active, not a single person bought it. And yet it was best selling on Amazon, Barnes and Nobles, everywhere else, written by all the critics. What a raging success story. But what if all the copies of that book were bought in the millions and literally just thrown into the ocean or into a fire?↗

5:24Ian MalcolmIt still allows the prestige of that individual who has essentially an endless money printer at the system that he is a subservient shill for, right? The dollars don't mean anything. And so my point is that in a system like the United States right now, you don't have what feels like capitalism, you certainly don't have democracy. You have what feels like, as Truthout would suggest, you have communism, and under that, everything is withering, rights, liberties, freedom, the economy included. And so in this dark time that we find ourselves in, what we need to do is to figure out how do we reverse the course? Now, I think, and I have been saying for years at this point, the most critical piece is to get anybody and everybody from the rooftops and the mountaintops saying we must end Jewish supremacy, which starts by saying we must be able to identify Jewish supremacy. And so we've been trying to do that for years, and the beauty is, and I'm so curious for, for Tom's thoughts on this one, and we'll get to him in just a second, but for so long I thought it would be impossible. For us, for our little voices, how are we gonna be able to break through to the minds of the masses who are just permeated with screens at every turn and speakers around every corner that are yelling at them left, right, migrant versus national citizen, black versus white, hate one another. How would we ever, amidst all that noise, be able to get our little voices that were so suppressed and censored to get people to just scratch? their head and say, "Wait a second, what's, what's going on here?"↗

7:05Ian MalcolmAnd yet, and I gotta give a lot of credit to Elon Musk, despite the fact that, yes, he went to Hebrew school, his name is Hebrew, he has children that are Jewish, and he has a Jewish head of product for X. But I do have to give him credit because it is, I believe, here on the intellectual battlefield that is X, which has a far smaller audience than Facebook, than Instagram, than TikTok, but the people that are on here tend to be far more politically involved. People go to Instagram for junk, intellectual junk. People come to X to try and understand what's going on in the world. I think that's probably a reasonable way to kind of firewall those two. And of the hundreds of millions of people that supposedly are on this application, there is a growing awareness of Jewish supremacy because our little voices were able to travel, and they've traveled so far that they got the attention of people like Buckley Carlson, who perhaps got the attention of people like his brother Tucker, and now as a result, you have more and more people starting to notice these, these realities that we've been talking about. Okay, so we've now been able to crack the matrix a little bit. But what do we do?↗

8:15Ian MalcolmPractically speaking. Well, a Marine just today went into a congressional hearing and said, "This has to end. No more wars for Israel." And he was dragged out by not only military personnel, but he was literally had his hand slammed into the wall, if I'm not mistaken, by either a member of Congress or of the Senate for saying, "No more wars for Israel." That is apparently cause to get you literally arrested in the United States. Now, was he disrupting something? Sure. But was he using free speech? Absolutely. Where is it written that we're not allowed to critique a foreign empire? Who wrote that anywhere? Isn't, isn't the definition of patriotism to care for your country? And I put up a post a little bit, a little while ago, I'm sure a lot of you've heard this line, in various movies from Hollywood. I will support and defend the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic.↗

9:24Ian MalcolmWell, we have domestic terrorists. The problem is that the Patriots aren't the domestic terrorists, but they're being labeled that by the people who are the domestic terrorists. They are the ones that are in the Senate, that are in the Congress, that own the media, that fund the politicians, and that are sitting in the White House today. Those are essentially the domestic terrorists. Now, they might not be using bullets But they're certainly using the pen to restrict your rights, your ability to speak up, to speak the truth, and to critique literally a foreign empire that is being put and superseded above the interests of your fellow countrymen. So again, how do we change this system in this world, in this moment? We've been doing it intellectually, and now we've got to figure out pragmatically and practically what could it look like. And so what better person, to discuss this with than Tom, who is with us today, who again, not only is an author, an esteemed spokesman, a freedom fighter, a person who's been off the grid, doing it themselves, living life as they should Outside of the big cities, but he's also been in the halls of those offices, has been in seats of politics, understands the mechanism of how this system works, and as a result, I'm incredibly humbled to have him with us here today. And, and Tom, I know I've talked a little bit about some of that background, some of the wonderful intellectual work you've done with your books, but if you wouldn't mind just giving everybody here a little bit of a backdrop on yourself, on what you've been working on the last couple of years, on maybe a little bit on your time in And then we can start to kind of pivot once everybody's a little bit more familiar with who you are into what you think about how we fix the world that we find ourselves in, my friend.↗

11:11Speaker 1Well, thank you, Ian. I appreciate you having me on and for your kind welcome and your invitation to everyone else who's out here, in the middle of this fight. I'm Tom Kaczynski. At this point, I'm a hermit and recluse who happily hides in northern New England. but once upon a time, I was The town manager, who wasn't willing to tuck for being a white man, and I got fired for it because a whole lot of white people did. Much more popular position in twenty twenty-five, twenty twenty-six than it was in twenty seventeen, let me tell you that. But that is thanks to the work of Ian, of everyone who's in here, and everyone who has been there in the comments section, in the replies, saying what needs to be said and keeping it alive. Some of us said it very gently, some of us said it very hard, but the truth is, Jewish supremacy She is a major problem, and the fact that we can have the conversation that way is a major development, which I think is a very good thing for all of us. So, why am I here tonight? I decided to come down from the proverbial mountain, so to say. I've written nineteen books. I actually in the last year did a translation of major parts of the New Testament and the Septuagint from Greek to English, if that interests you. Look up something called The Book of One on Amazon. So, I've been deep in studies and Deep in thinking about the problem, and sometimes there's a lot to be said for just thinking on the issues that are out there and that need to be solved. And so, in response to Ian's excellent challenge about where do we go next, what I'm going to talk about tonight is cognitive warfare and using the word as a technology to fight back. We have been fighting against people who have been twisting the meaning of words their whole life, and we've been trying to win this as a moral battle against people who have all the morality of a goldfish You're never going to win that battle because it doesn't matter to them. I don't need anyone to-- I don't need to quote anyone here that they have a tendency to say the same thing even after they're corrected. Hopefully, if you've all read Uncle, was it chapter two of Uncle A, you know this battle isn't nothing new, and I'm saying that because it's a conversation that needs to be had, the history needs to be reclaimed because we have been denied our own heritage and forced to live under a false narrative that's existed far too long. So A little more radical than I've talked in the past, but now we're in a moment where the conversation can become more honest, and the thing we've learned is we don't go backwards, we don't give an inch, we don't surrender to those who are working against us. So that's a little bit about me, a little bit of introduction. I did put my, I put together maybe a ten, fifteen minute presentation, to try to give you some ideas and some practical applications to begin offering one vision on how How we can do what Ian is talking about and what everyone here is concerned about, which is how do we get the sick pedophiles who run our government out of there? And I think we're all interested in that. So I'll leave it to you for a second, and then I can begin when you want, or if there's something you wanna touch on first, I'm more than happy to work that way. I took two naps because I'm a morning person, but I'll be here with you as long as there's a reason to be here.↗

14:26Ian MalcolmOh, and so much love, Tom, for that, and, and we are so humbled. And, and it's interesting, we, we did a space, not too long ago. I, I like sometimes dabbling in things that are, are a little bit lighter. And, so a, an account named Rabbi Malious, the two of us did a space on, Star Wars and on Lord of the Rings, and I reference both because the concept of the hermit, right? I, I, I feel like we've got Yoda here with↗

14:53Ian Malcolmus It is, is Yoda, whether it's Gandalf, right? This idea of wisdom is, is important in ways that we can't comprehend, right? And, and so many of these kind of monumental works of fiction, they always focus not on the, the, the guy with the biggest sword and hammer, it's the one that's thoughtful, that's clever, that's able to come up with, with solutions to very complex problems. I know you've been doing that, so incredibly excited for this presentation. And, and one thing that I would ask is, is The, the moment of this conversation, what you are seeing now, and I say this because again, I mean, the nineteen books that you've just referenced, you've been thinking about these types of challenges and problems at this point for decades, and, and you were out there, and unlike some, like myself, that kind of just talk about these things, right? You actually took matters into your own hands. You were in the political machine. The question that I would have is When we think of the problem today, which I, I just define as Jewish supremacy, 'cause I, I think that truly runs essentially everything, but whether it's that or Alex Jones, who would say the globalists, I'm curious for your thought on the Necessity for this conversation to take place today compared to a decade ago, compared to twenty or thirty years ago. I know you've been watching this, do you feel like we've accelerated to a point where it has to happen today relative to the past? And if so, what is it about this moment in time that we find, that you find perhaps so concerning or daunting?↗

16:28Speaker 1Well, that's a very good question, and the first thing I would say is the urgency of the moment and the awareness of the knowledge. More people than have ever been are aware of the way that, you know, the Jewish system works with both left and right components to successfully, dominate what the narrative is. And, and what you're gonna find me talk about a lot is the narrative and the word is technology. We talk about politics, we talk about- Economics. We talk about downriver effects of decisions that are made at narrative. Why do they control publishing? Why do they repeat certain lies? And the reason they do is reality itself has a tendency to respond to the words we use. I mean, it's even a biblical lesson, right? What was the first thing that happened in the Garden of Eden? God says, "Go forth and start naming things." And when you name something, there's a power because you're the one who is defining the terms on which the battle will be fought. And if you pick the That ground on which you wanna fight on, you're going to win that battle, and it's important we fight these battles now because the reality is we're looking at the potential for the creation of a surveillance state, that is going to be made using AI, that's going to be used, already happening. What's it? Thirty-eight states have, the I-H-R-C definitions of what represents antisemitism, which basically makes a, overclass that we're not allowed to criticize, that we will be legally- punished for behind this idea of hate speech, when hate speech, literally in the United States, you, would see greater punishment for someone criticizing a genocide for the people who have been committing the genocide of the Gazans, you know, and, and all the various acts we see Israel has played a large role in. So the question is, in, in the meta-sense of the time period, we are entering into what I'm going to call almost like a triple singularity, where the evolution of AI, the end of- The scarcity economy into the abundance economy, and the control grid networks that have ruled our world through fake money are basically now going to have to congeal into some sort of new technocratic leadership, or we will break their power grid. And so the struggle we have is a little bit different than I think people think. We don't have to win, we have to make sure they lose, and beginning to understand that the, the elements of how they're able to marshal power is what this chat is Going to be about, because if we can find a way to disempower them, and what I mean by that is to stop being used by them through our own inaction, then we can begin winning this battle. And I think what will surprise people is I think we can actually win it rather quickly. So my own thought is to kind of go through sort of the thought of the, of what I'm thinking, in a little bit of detail, and then we can go into individual items. We can talk about the war, geopolitics is well known to me, and, and we Take it wherever people want. I have absolutely no hurry for tonight. But I think that would be the most fruitful way for me to do this because I'm not interested in giving you a solution. I'm interested in giving you a method to find your own solutions. I realize if we have a hundred people in here, we're gonna have a hundred different paths. Some are a little bit more radical, some are a little bit more gentle. All of them can be pulling in the same direction, and it's our ability to pull our threads together against a common enemy that we don't want that's going to be the key to whether or not we can win this, because the mistake we make, generally speaking, as smart people, is we try to educate people. I'm not here to- Educate anyone. I'm here to talk about how we win so a bunch of crazy pedophile motherfuckers don't run this country anymore or this world. And if we can accomplish that, I am more than willing to be trickier than someone who is in the diamond district.↗

20:24Ian MalcolmI love it. And, and look, you're, you're essentially hardened like a diamond because of the pressure, right, Tom? And I, it might sound like a trope, but the, the reality is that you've been witnessing this for so long, you've seen the development, you've seen the rise of this superpower that is essentially a state within a state, and now, like you're saying, you're seeing it take shape into this technological, kind of overlord. It's either the, it's the Terminator, it's the Death Star, right? There's a million different dystopian renditions we could present, it's Big Brother, but this idea of, of being able to dismantle it, again, I've, I've been kind of taking that stance that we just need to bring attention to the problem. Now that we're developing that attention, we're getting perhaps to a critical mass. Very curious for you to walk through how you think we can mechanize a, a legitimate resistance and rejection that is lawful, it is peaceful, it's righteous, and it will ultimately, like you're saying, give another angle there. People that might have different approaches that are in the audience, if so, that's fine, feel free to come up. We'll certainly do a Q&A after Tom's presentation. but, you know, any and every bit helps as long as we're moving towards that common denominator that's freedom, that's peace, that's righteousness, and a better tomorrow for everybody. So, Tom, so, so curious for your presentation, and again, just so humbled that you're here with us.↗

21:45Speaker 1Well, thank you once again. I appreciate that. And, and I'd say that is what we're fighting ultimately is a shadow. Shadows have a great power because they hide the light that's obvious around you. Let me tell you one thing, we aren't fighting an incredible superpower, we are fighting an empire of lies. And the way you defeat an empire of lies is that you start with truth. So the first part of my presentation here, and I shared it, I believe in the chat, but I'm going to tell you this is cognitive warfare. For pattern seekers and the Word as a technology. So I was telling you I spent six months literally in the Word, literally I've been learning ancient Greek so I could read the Word in my own, in, in my own natural English and understand it. I was reading the Gospel of John actually. And what I found was Christ wasn't describing some obscure universe, He was talking about how you actualize the world you want based on the words you choose and the- Greater truth can weaken any enemy over time, where even if they kill you, you will live on forever. And I mention this because we need to learn how to use the word as effectively as that. We need to realize that what we say and how we battle this is what's important, because let's look at the elements of power just as a second to consider it, because someone might say it's political power. Well, political power works because the media runs everything, and media works because all the money goes into it, and money works because we all give power over to it, and money's based on, well, what is money based on? It's based on velocity, but it's based on dark magic, because who's here thinks a fiat currency is worth anything more than toilet paper? And yet we're all chasing it, we're all living for it, we're all doing it because once upon a time someone somewhere in a temple said, "Hey, we'll give you a slip of paper for gold you really have," and then they were the fool who let them run off with it. So when we look at the word and when we look at the meaning of things, what becomes clear is that we have an opportunity to reframe issues very quickly, and I'm going to these very high levels that seem abstract, because they're not abstract. We sell our souls every day, and we live in a system of debt and usury that's been imposed upon us because we've let things mean different things. We've redefined usury as economics, stewardship, finance. It's theft by leverage. It's someone hustling you. These aren't impressive people, these aren't impressive actions, but they happen because we have become amoral, because we live in a world of objects, not subjects, and this is the second point I kinda wanna get to. You need to start thinking of this world as a place your consciousness is actively creating. I call this truth conventions and consent, and it works like this. Something that's true will remain true, and you can build off it. But ninety-nine percent of what we live on- Our conventions that we defend, like empiricism, how the hell do you know what it's like to live as anyone else? But we think we live in an objective reality, and you know what objects are used to? They're used to bludgeon people. They're used to make you give your life over to something you don't want. And you know who developed that system?↗

25:02Speaker 1The Judaic cult, it was a heresy that formed out of the rejection of Christianity, that literally was there to save them, and they didn't want it because they wanted to own a dead world of objects, and they want us to be their servants in a world of objects. So we are fighting like Jung against Freud, we are fighting against the darkness of psychology for the release Of the spirit that we had, the pneuma, the Holy Spirit, the exciting force that moves us forward, and this, this probably sounds very abstract, but it's not, I'm telling you. It's at the heart of how you have to fight this, because ultimately, you're fighting against an unholy opponent. If you, if you know Nostocism, you're fighting against an archonic force that is siphoning your life energy to systems that work against you, because we have consented to it. We have, let's be honest. We play their games, we live under their words, we say, "Oh, well, psychology or, or politics or media." So we shift frames constantly to what works for us, and that is the other piece of the cognitive warfare, that you define the narrative of what a victory looks like, and, and I'll make it very practical for the, for what we're talking about now. Because the simplest answer is the right one here. We are the people who don't fuck with children. We are the people who protect children. We are the people who are going to remove every member of government Everywhere they are who defends this, like those people who just voted today in the United States House, where they vote like three, three fifty to fifty to protect the people, the names of the people who were guilty of sexual molestation. They're hiding the names of Epstein files, and the reason this is important is because we need allies, we need a lot of people. A lot of people are asking questions, and the number one question that they don't want us to ask why we're being drawn into this Iran war is why are the people who were held by a black mail code, not even by Mossad. Epstein isn't Mossad. Epstein isn't Israel. Let's be real, blood. Epstein is the Rothschilds, okay? And Israel, if you wanna get to that level, is the Crusader state of the banker institutions that are hiding in the city of London, they're hiding in Switzerland, and they're hiding in Israel. And I'm not saying they're not all on the same team, by the way. They absolutely are. But if tomorrow Israel was left to rot and the bankers still ran the roost and they gave over their own as a sacrifice, like frankly they did a lot of times in history, that wouldn't solve anything because we need to define how we are solving them. Now, the second part of my presentation here, I tried to make this short, but I want you have these three ideas. Understand the word is a technology, and if you speak truth, that you will be able to change reality around I literally watch my timeline change. It sounds like Jedi crap, but it really does work. framing is narrative control. Don't let them put you in a frame you don't like. You watch how they constantly try to do it. you know, like, look, Pierre S. Morgan's the worst example of this, and he's been getting beat like a bell this week. Why? Because people haven't accepted, "Oh, well, they're terrorists." No, Israel's a terrorist state, everyone knows it. You know, even today it was coming out, they were saying that↗

28:22Speaker 1We can go ahead and control the region, and everyone should be against this because every one of us is expendable to them, that we always have been, and the way they treat us is really obvious, and that contempt is awful. And then when I say truth, conventions, and consent, we accept a lot of things as absolutes that we really shouldn't, and let's be willing to question those when they come up, because if you can begin questioning what's real, here's what you will find. The biggest traps you will have in your own life are the things you think There are absolute truths that are just bullshit you choose to believe, and I'm not buying any more of it. I just won't do it. I'm gonna live here in my cabin and be difficult till the day I die with my wife and everything that we do up here, but that's how I think about it. So now I wanna get into the specific moment.↗

29:11Speaker 1I have three things I'm calling the act Apocalyptic confluences of eschatons. That's word salad. Three types of groups seeing the world end, and this goes to Ian's question about the moment, the Zionist-Judeo-Christian eschatology, right? This weird combination of people who think building a third temple to some idol and the idea you're gonna force a rapture apocalypse is going to work is utterly insane, but as we learned this week, literally we have commanders teaching this, we have Hegesipp promoting this, we have real- Really, if you wanna look at creepy people, John Heggie, Kenneth Copeland, the whole Seven Mountain Mandate, the people who are backing up things like Erika Kirk is doing, all of these sorts of people are going out there and they're building a pseudo-religion↗

30:00Speaker 2That says, "Oh, we're gonna start the apocalypse." Well, I've read the Greek. The apocalypse was the tearing of the veil, right? And the veil was torn two thousand years ago. So we are constantly being sold the need to have intermediaries between us and God that aren't necessary. But this fact that people labor in ignorance because this world isn't what they want, because they accept what other people tell them is possible, is why what could be heaven is friggin' hell. Need to change that. These people think they can change it by being the useful idiots who will fight the war and the awards, and they're gonna drag us into a regional apocalyptic war that will leave not much left necessarily of the Western world. Second group of people, the surveillance singularity folks. Palantir, these organizations that are going out there, Altman over at OpenAI increasingly, they're getting to the point where they can build a perfect panopticon to watch everything that we are doing and have great predictive capacity. They can even read people's dreams and stuff like that. The technology will exist soon enough that will monitor us where we won't be able to express our own consciences, and we will be trapped in a world of defined limits that they, that we don't want. And we've seen what that ends up with, that ends up with drones coming after people. Because you had wrong thing on what was happening in the apocalypse, or what was happening with Zionists. You know, you can see this. Look, not just at the people getting arrested in places like the UK, but sheriffs coming after people in Florida for saying, "Hey, I don't like what these Jews are doing." That is complete insanity, but we have been watching it happen. The other piece, and this is a huge piece of this, oligarchic post-abundance control. What does that mean? It means that AI is going to figure out how to do a great many things where a lot will cost a lot less, and because of that, that means you won't need people lording over you. The people who lord over you hate that idea, which is why they're leading us into wars, why they lead us into diseases, you know, what was it, Candice was saying, the Sackler family, the pharmaceutical family, and the, what You know, our, our last forever war before the new one they're promising us. So what they are very worried about is how do we keep control? And I mention all three of these together because they're using the religious elements to activate certain groups of the population to drag the country down a path where surveillance is justified by the war state and the deprivations that come are going to be said as a consequence of a war rather than the consequence of abundance just around the corner where a AI could help everyone, but they're kneecapping it constantly because if you're not desperate, they can't control you. So stop the despair, stop the desperation. You're better than they are because you're actually a human being instead of a freaking monster. Okay? So that's the second part. You're fighting these eschatologies, the surveillance singularity, and their idea of a post-abundance world where they're going to say, "Hey, we're going to give you tribute for the war instead of UBI. We're going to give you these little,↗

33:07Speaker 2you know, bits of AI technology. We're going to give you scraps from the table because we think of you as dogs." That's what they do, and they're gonna keep doing it as long as we let them run the institutions of our government. So how's- How do we solve this? You know, we've, we've gone through abstractions that may or may not seem relevant. Navigation of information processing.↗

33:28Speaker 2Who are the motive actors who run the system is the first question. It's obviously not the politicians, we know that. Who's writing the checks, who's controlling it? I would say it's probably the people who are being the bankers, and the bankers who are funding the Zionists, who are funding the Jewish NGOs, like Catholic charities, there's another big one, saw that a lot up here in Maine. All of these sort of things that are controlling the flows of money and people to attack different things. And then you have to understand, at what level are you fighting? Right? Politics is the lowest level, that's where you have the bot, bot prostitutes. If they were any lower, they'd be the media The same level. Above that, there's culture, the idea of what your groups are, what your tribes are, but that can be weaponized against you. Above that's economics, because at the end of the day, we all need to get fed. That is the level we can actually fight at, and I'm gonna talk in a little bit about how I think that's where we should fight. But the highest level, like I said at the beginning, is always the narrative. Why are you fighting? Because it doesn't matter if you're right if no one believes you. It doesn't matter if↗

34:35Speaker 2Stuck on this lonely path where we have to say half truths, half ways, because people aren't ready to hear it, not even because they don't know it's true, but because they're not willing to pay the social cost. And don't think people have gotten any braver than they used to be. People are economically uncertain, people are disturbed, they're distraught, they don't know what they want, and the idea that we can give them a one size fits all solution isn't there. But we can tell them who is the responsibility for the problem, and I give Ian and everyone else Or credit for doing those battles. Now, velocity is the limiting factor in this, and what do I mean by that? Why do they have the Fed talk about inflation all the time? Why do they look at money certain way? Why do they do the eighth front in the war, right? That they talk about in Israel, that they're trying to control the information space in Unit eighty-two hundred and all the crap we know that's out there? They do it because they're controlling and they're sculpting a space, right? They do this constantly. They will tell you what is possible. They will Build their Overton windows, but we can begin fighting against this. And so I'm going to give you my thought of how we will actually be able to successfully fight against this. You want a simple message. The simple message is, we don't trust anyone in government to continue on because of Epstein. It unites the left, it unites the right, it grabs people who know things, it grabs people who know nothing, but it's a broad front coalition that accomplishes what's necessary. Which is to break the spoils blackmail system that is DC. So, we've tried politics, that doesn't work. We tried elections, that doesn't work. Knowledge, that doesn't work. Social media, helpful, still doesn't work. What we have to do is withdraw consent. Poland faced a problem like this in the nineteen eighties. Solidarity, some of you may have heard of it. What ended up happening was the workers in the Polish, I think they were the shipyards and steel- Yards, they made the decision that they just weren't going to work anymore because their government didn't represent them all together. We are at a point where we need to use our economic power to say, "Hey, we won't be the slaves of your system, and none of us are going to work, not a tax revolt, because in the age of withholding, that isn't gonna work, and not a violent protest, and not one big protest, because they're just going to shut it down, they're going to arrest it. It has to be decentralized, it has to be universally accepted." Accessible. And so what I'm suggesting is that maybe for this Easter, we prepare a traffic jam that doesn't end. And why do I say that? The United States has one really, really large weak point The corporations who make the money demand the politicians keep things moving. Some of you who were watching the Canadian convoys might remember that they were being incredibly effective. They were blockading bridges, they were doing things that worked, and then they went to Ottawa and they decided to ask permission instead of take authority. You can't ask permission for what you need to do. You can't say to the government, "Hey, we don't think you're legitimate, please let us do this." We have to make the decision at some point that we're gonna shut it down, or what will happen is the combination of AI surveillance drones and sycophants is going to allow the regime to shut us down because they won't need us to functionally live at a level that they are willing to accomplish to make sure they be- And control against a mass of people who they would rather see gone. So how does the traffic jam work? The traffic jam is very simple, and you can do this different ways, but this was my way of thinking of it, because it doesn't require people to be brave, and it doesn't require people to put their faces on the line. It just is this, we all agree someday that we're going to shut the country down, park your car, make every interstate impassable, make it so all business shuts down until our government Every single one of them, Democrat, Republican, every one of them's gone, gone. They have to resign because they don't represent us.↗

38:47Speaker 2America's 250 years old A revolutionary mood is needed, not a violent one, a very peaceful one, because, you know what? They don't care what we think. We know that, but you know what they will care about? When business shuts down, when money shuts down, when they can't move goods from point A to point B, because then profit margins are hurt. Pam Bondi can't go out there and say the Dow is over fifty thousand when nothing is moving.↗

39:15Speaker 2Give it one week. And this whole country, this government will go running for the hills, and you know what they'll do? They'll squeal like pigs. Everyone who's guilty, everyone who did these horrible things. And you know what? Justice? And hangings if needed be. I don't care if you hurt children, and as the truth comes out, the, the whole thread, the network will unravel itself, because velocity is their strength. It's the speed at which they keep the illusion moving by putting words in front of us that don't matter, so we look past the fact it did, and the fact is really simple. These people have been torturing our kids, and the politicians who we go to are the people who participated in it with-- and agreed to be blackmail as the price of admission.↗

40:07Speaker 2I don't know if it was all of them. I know it was enough that the whole thing needs to be taken down and that we cannot continue to work this way. So that's how I look at it. Now, whether, you know, the idea of that I suggested how to do it's the perfect one, I don't know. But I'll tell you this, let me give you a hypothetical. You won't, you wanna really think of issues. Let's say you had five cities, maybe even some left-leaning cities, I'm sure Portland and Seattle would go for this, maybe Minneapolis,↗

40:36Speaker 2Just park their cars and say, "No, we're not moving." And then you start having that go viral, "Why aren't you moving? We're not moving until the people who hurt our children are held responsible." You think they're gonna attack that on Good Friday? Okay, you wanna fight a war on good ground? Because you're fighting over the idea space. And People like to fight over them being right, and it's fun to fight over being right. It's fun, I, I mean, heck, I've written three books like that. But ultimately, something so wrong is happening right now that we can put together a broad coalition that says, "What we're going to do is take away your ability to have control, because we're just not going to work for you." And it's not violent, it's not us, you know, doing anything where we have put our faces on the line. It's just People saying, "This is enough," and if enough people do it all at once, yes, you're shutting down the whole country, and then there'll be-- What do you want to go back to work? What do you want? We like, we want all of you gone. And, and then, then when you break the spell, because this is what happens, this is, this is actually survivor psychology, if you really wanna know. When the spell is broken, people are like, "What the hell did we support that for? Why were we wearing those masks and standing six feet apart? What the heck is this? It's magic." It's dark magic, and you know how you defeat dark magic with truth. These are occultists. I've read their Zohar, you know. I know what they talk about, and they play tricks on you. But they're not playing tricks on us anymore, because you know the one weakness we have, the one weakness the, the people who are really aware have, we're decent people. And it's about time that starts being a strength. So that is my thought on a way to approach this. Now, people may choose a different path, and that's fine. People may choose something less aggressive. But what I'm saying is, do you see the difference in the approach? You're looking at the leverage point of the system and how you can pull out of it, and you're looking how you define the word into a battle you want. I'm not here to fight Jewish supremacy. Ian does it way better than I can. I'm just here to make sure the fuckers who hurt kids lose, because I can't live with them representing me another day. So I come down from being a hermit to talk for a little bit, and my friends are kind enough to indulge me. So thank you for letting me rant for a couple minutes.↗

43:02Ian MalcolmNo, Tom, that was spectacular, and, and, you know, the thing that's so interesting is that idea of, a blockade, right? Create this traffic jam. it, it's something that at the end of the day, I mean, you talk about the economic impacts that that would have, I think it's tough for people to comprehend that Right? And, and we're seeing actually talk about this on a macro level because of the Iran war with the Strait of Hormuz and what that might mean for, trade, right? What it might, might mean for oil prices, et cetera.↗

43:32Ian MalcolmI, I don't think people can contextualize how, dramatic the economy would react in the event that you just shut down the highway systems for a week or two or three. it would be catastrophic. Now, the, the thing that I would question is, in, in your vision, you, you kind of mentioned that that type of, let's say the, the jam that that would create would create economic instability that would result in all of these people, squealing, I like that you use that term, right? conceding their involvement in these things. I, I do think it would create that economic backlash and make things very uncomfortable, for all the big businesses. You think, I mean, Amazon would just be going wild. The, the politics Let me make it↗

44:14Speaker 2simpler for you, though. Let me tell you a fact most Americans don't know, very important to this. Seventy-two, most American food arrives from over a hundred and fifty miles away from wherever it comes from to American supermarkets on a seventy-two hour just-in-time cycle. Within five days, the United States would be unable to feed itself, leading to mass demonstrations in the cities. And do you think the people who are going to demonstrate are gonna demonstrate in favor of the government or in opposition to the government when the point of the demonstration is to- Stand against the pedophiles who are in our government. You have to look at the pressure points very precisely because wars are won on logistics. So I agree with what you're going to say about Amazon and about the comforts, but this is more important than comforts. What will happen is basic goods will stop being able to go, most, factories, industrial processes will shut down within seven days, and you reach a point where, much like with COVID- Showed, once you stop a system of this level of complexity, you can't just restart it because it depends upon active flows between various elements. That once the flow starts, it's, it's like, it's like a cold start to, to a generator when it's below twenty degrees. You just aren't gonna find it start, it's gonna sputter. So, not to interrupt, but I wanted to give you that level of detail, I put a lot of thought into where the specific weak point is. In the system, and that's why I sort of recommend this. And the other reason it works is because it can be entirely organic. And frankly, it's fun to do. Let's, let's, let's be blunt, we're dealing with millennials and Zoomers here, right? So they're not gonna wanna talk. Gathering in big groups is just an invitation to be turned into a terrorist. But a lot of people who drive beaters and have nothing to look forward to but death would maybe be happy just to say, "You know what? I'm just gonna park it and sit and wait and Well, what if you don't act? I mean, what can they do? Can the government force you to work? I mean, are they gonna send work gangs around? I mean, who's gonna go do it? You think the National Guard's gonna do it? They're cannibalizing them to send them to Iran. You think the police Departments are gonna wanna do this? They're not gonna wanna do this. I'm the politician who defended the pedophiles. They can't do it. They can't defend their position. We need to make them own it. And if someone has a better way than this, hey, I'm all ears. I don't believe in a one size fits all approach. We can bring in as many things as people want, but this is my idea of how to do it. So, sorry for interrupting, but I thought that would expand upon what you were thinking.↗

46:54Ian MalcolmNo, it did, and, and Tom, you, you kind of read my mind. The, the just-in-time logistics, I don't think people recognize, the, the catastrophic consequences of the backlog of even a couple days, right? To your point, it doesn't matter if it's on food, it doesn't matter if it's on energy, these things are basically designed at this point under the presumption that everything is always going to be arriving exactly when it's supposed to. The truck's gonna turn around the other direction to go pick up its second haul. There's very little slack in that system, and so to, to your point, a week or two would create not just a week or two, but a month or two or three or maybe even quarters of consequences on the supply chain, which would be catastrophic. The consequences on the supermarket and all of the, the big box stores. You're exactly right.↗

47:45Speaker 2And the types of people who would be most sympathetic to us are gonna be people like truckers, independent contractors who have been being replaced, who are- We're being replaced by H1B immigrant labor and less than that, who have been, you know, who are very sympathetic to children, you know, in these sort of issues. A lot of the long haul freight guys are people who have families, middle class, blue collar type guys who have been working very hard, and if they start shutting it down, they were the people willing to take the convoys to begin with. So if the trucks don't move and the highways don't move And what, how are you going to keep the system moving? And the people just have to make a very simple demand. All of you resign. You're all gone. And if that means we need to have another constitutional convention, that's fine. I'm, I'm completely government, model agnostic. But what I know is that every single person who is close to power in Washington has to be presumed to be corrupt, you know? I, I don't, I don't think we can exclude anyone from that. And if there are one or two good ones, well Well, you know what? Sometimes you get thrown out with the bathwater. That's what happens in those scenarios.↗

48:56Speaker 2but I can't imagine for the life of me a simpler and more effective tactic that might actually work to help us get this country back. And I'll tell you what it also does. It ends the pathway to World War III, because in America that isn't moving is in America that can't support an expeditionary force abroad, abroad is in America that doesn't allow Israel to conduct its war with any help from the United States And then Israel can deal with the mess it made for itself with the Iranians and the rest of that world when we say, "You, our boys are coming home." And you know what? When those chickens come home to roost to Israel, I say they've done everything they could to deserve it, and we will have detached ourselves from that nightmare. Now, the truth of it is, I would be pushing for this sooner, but the problem is, is very, very simple. If you wanna do something like this, you need to pick a date that has symbolic meaning. You need to have a time when So cold that it's impossible in northern climates, and you need to have enough critical awareness and anger about what's happening in Washington. in theory, it could happen whenever as a viral moment, but you don't wanna piss off people by doing it, like, say, on a Monday morning. So maybe you do it the Saturday of Easter weekend, and then everyone thinks, "Oh, it's gonna be a cute little protest," and then they're gonna go home. But you don't go home. You leave the mess there. And what are you gonna-- I mean, what are they gonna do Guys aren't coming out for this. They don't wanna come out for this, they don't believe in it. And all the blue collar guys that they've shit on, frankly, of every race and every group who've been victims of Jewish supremacy and hypocrisy, right? If you want to put it bluntly, all of them are gonna be like, "Nah, you go do it." And you know what? They can make a lot of money, but I ain't ever seen any of them do any real labor. So I don't think they're gonna go solve their problem.↗

50:45Speaker 2I,↗

50:49Ian MalcolmPush bankers going out and getting, tow trucks and going and hooking them up to cars,↗

50:54Speaker 2you don't say. I, I tell you what, I would love to watch 'em try. I mean, they would probably winch things right onto their own heads, don't you think?↗

51:04Speaker 2I do, and↗

51:05Ian Malcolmthat's, that's a joke for Mossad if they're listening, but, I, I think Tom's joking there about, perhaps the nature of nature. No, they killed me already. Nature. No, I know, I, I know that, but I mean, there is, there, there is something to be said, right? I, I, I can't think of a whole lot of Jewish farmers or mechanics or things of that nature, and so I don't, I don't know how well they would fare kind of going out and,↗

51:33Ian MalcolmA little bit more difficult than, managing a cryptocurrency scam, but, Well, that's what they do. It's the last thing↗

51:40Speaker 2you know, you're a hundred percent right. We are the ones who are being used by them. Why do we let them use us? For fake slips of money? I mean, I tell you what, I'm willing to promise everyone a jubilee, and I got an idea. Let's appropriate the Fed's money and give everyone a little bit of a rebate. Anyone who wasn't getting something, now they're gonna get paid, and all of a I created productive capitalism again, or whatever system, but all of these things stem from a failure of the imagination, because we don't look at words, we don't look at logic, and because we underrate ourselves. These aren't won-- these aren't impressive people, these aren't talented people, these are schysters who are robbing us blind, and we're letting them do it. And if we let them do it long enough, they'll get robots to replace us. And that's why I think this has to be the summer. This is the window. I, I have done a lot of AI adjacent work, and my real work, okay, is I, at this point, I call myself a consciousness researcher, and sometimes I call myself an apostle. I'm here to flip a couple tables over, and I'm very excited to do that with everybody, because who doesn't like to get a little rowdy sometimes? But what, what I'm saying is that we need to think about the whole equation differently than we've done, because we're always like, what is the political position? How do we get our guys in there? 80% of this country, if we pick the battle, they can't win. And if we take all of their strengths, this overwhelming system, it's like taking a super sports car. Everyone thinks a Ferrari is super impressive, until you realize it gets eight miles to the gallon. So suck the gas out of the room, you know? Operation gas chamber. No, don't call it that. that would be a little too much trouble. But you get the point. You get the point. And, and have some fun with it. I mean, I hate to say it, but Alinsky was right. In, in politics, if you can make it fun, and this is fun, who doesn't want to be at a block party, the American traffic jam, the revolution you didn't know you needed? And at the end of the day, you say, they'll say, "What is your demand? What do you want?" We just want you gone, all of you. All of you, and we'll have some, we need a new, we need new rights, we need new protections. We need to sit and argue, and people who don't like each other and don't agree need to see, see the table. People like us, most of us who have been on the far right, as it's accounted for a very long time, we need to see, and maybe even the far lefties. I know they're idiots, but you know what? I'm tired of people saying that people who live here don't ever see the table because they have money and they have↗

54:21Speaker 2The people who were responsible for the terrible things with children, with blackmail, with human trafficking, with all these horrible stories, we're gonna find that the same systems that put these, put us into so many of these battles Are coming from them, 'cause we already know that. And then, as far as solving other things, people can go back to where they came from, we can build a better system. But at this point, I don't even care that we have a solution. I know right now the building is on fire, and we need to do something about it. And what I say is we take all the power away from them, and we do it the one way we can, which is just say, "I will not consent." Not in a tax revolt, not in some declaration, not some pointless protest,↗

55:07Speaker 2When they wanna hurt us, what do they do? Oh, here's taxes. Oh, here's a cost. Here's a fee. Okay, you wanna play dollar for dollar? I mean, American Mortal Combat. Let's see how well your fake dollar works when it ain't circulating. They'll be like, "Oh, no, no, it needs to be in circulation, "because if it isn't, the stock market collapses and all that paper wealth they have is as worthless as a silver arbitrage contract. We can understand the weak points of their system, and Lord knows I'm gonna get But I don't care, because ultimately this is a moral position. In my world, my, my personal worldview, this is milestones if you're not talking about it. And I think we would be very pleasantly surprised to find how many people share that basic determination, not to understand all the power and all the elements. And all you people are too smart, you know? You're smarter than me, you can convince everyone of anything. But I don't wanna be smart, I wanna be dumb in a way that everyone can relate to. And if we can do that, then I think- I think we win, and, and I think that's where the battle is, and, and whether it works or not, look, I'm an old hermit up in Maine, I could, I could blockade my road and no one would come by for a week, it really wouldn't do a heck of a lot of good, but in terms of something that you guys can run with, figure out a way that works for you, talk to one another about how you fight at this battle. The narrative is we don't accept the traffickers having the blackmail cult over government. The strategy is we ignore the politicians because they ignore us. We go right to the economic things, and then their donor class is who they're gonna have to count to. And the thing that's gonna be tricky is they're gonna offer concessions. They're gonna say, "Come to the table, sit. You're hurting the country? No, you're hurting the country. You've made us a laughing stock in the world, a slave to this awful Zionist community. And you know what? We let all these Jews in here who have just been tormenting us, just like you did." With the Palestinians in the Nakba, it's what they keep doing everywhere. And you know what? I'm not here to attack anyone specifically, but I am not going to live in a country where anyone can have that power over me, especially people whose sole ability is the, is that they leverage people through usury, debt, blackmail, and evil occultism. The hell with that. I've had enough of it, and I think all of you have too.↗

57:31Ian MalcolmThat is so spectacularly stated. And, and Tom, a-and I wanna go to Victory, who's got a question for you. And, and just before you do, I just wanted to compliment the, the-- and I gotta clip that because what you just said, it's not only spot on intellectually, right? It's not only directionally accurate. the, the way in which you delivered it was so uplifting and motivating, right? And that's what our people need right now. They need to be moralized because they've been so demoralized by the, you know who The media and tech and all of this other insanity, and that idea for what it's worth, about the blockade in the streets, creating the traffic jam, and calling it the American block party, when he said that, I mean, I, I can see people getting behind that, the youth getting excited and enthused, right? And the boomers, if, if, if a lot of them are, are gonna think that it's, it's somehow, I guess, the hippies of yesteryear, well, then ironically, many of them today are probably part of that generation. Maybe they↗

58:31Ian MalcolmThat this isn't being done to try and create economic warfare for the purposes of, of hurting people's pockets purely or, you know, making some kind of political stand for either left or right. It's a righteous stand against literal pedophiles and people that are destroying the country by controlling essentially everything through this system of credit that you perfectly described. That all goes back to the same usual suspects, set of bankers and essentially the Federal Reserve, which is all- All designed to keep us on the rat race forever. And so the way that you, again, you delivered that, and that's what we need right now. We need to be moralized, we need to be enthused, we need to see that there's light at the end of this insane tunnel. And, the, the Thomas, the last little question to you, 'cause I believe this is what's happening. Which is that people aren't only seeing the light, they're running towards it because they are enthused that there could be a better tomorrow, and I think so many have been so downtrodden, and they've also been so self-loathing because the media's basically told, largely the white Christian, let's say, heterosexual Westerners, that they should all hate themselves, and I think they've just pushed it so far that people have just become exhausted with the shame, the demoralization, and they love the idea of somebody telling them them, you are good. You aren't fundamentally flawed merely 'cause of the color of your skin or the fact that you were born in the country or any of these other things that they've used to basically shame the very people that should take incredible pride↗

1:00:00Ian MalcolmThat their ancestors built the country that we all take for granted today. And so I think the way that you delivered that was just beautiful, and I'm just curious, again, it's the last little question, then we'll go to Victory, for your thoughts on this enthusiasm that seems to be brewing, that seems to be essentially unstoppable, and that I believe is essentially the wick that's leading to the firecracker that's gonna shoot off into the air, and people are gonna marvel about it.↗

1:00:24Speaker 3Well, I tell you what, it's fun to imagine the first non-CIA color revolution. It's been too damn long, right? And I, I think people do wanna have some fun. I do think they do wanna let off. I think people realize the stakes. People realize that there is not a lot to gain from playing with the system anymore. And the other part of this, and this is the harder part, is there is a lot to lose. I, I mentioned the things about, a corporate singularity, about a technocratic oligarchy. We can see The laws being put in place in real time, people can see it, you know, like the Noahide type laws for those who follow it closely. So you have the combination of factors between people wanting to get moralized and having a cause worth fighting over for the first time in a long time, a chance to show something heroic that the United States is a decent and moral country. And I'll tell you something, if we do this right, for-- 'cause I know not everyone in here is an American, this is gonna take off in the UK, this is gonna take off in Canada It might not have quite as big of an influence in European countries because trains operate, although who knows what train operators and tractors could do, that's a whole 'nother story. Let's not go that far down the line. But I, I think that you would find that there is a massive energy that wants to be released where people want to be sovereign in their own countries again, and the promise of dignity that that implies. I mean, this is two hundred and fifty years in America. What the fuck is liberty if not the right to not have someone tell you? Tell us how we have to live every aspect of our lives, and whether it's because of guilt, whether it's because of money, we have the right to say no and to negotiate that new contract, and I think that this would be a step in that direction, because we can't look at the enemy for their strengths. We are facing a giant bureaucracy, and I'm not here to articulate what it does well. I'm here to articulate the weak points it has. I'm here to tell you why going around the Maegano line through Bel- Will work, because I'm not going to fight them on their terms, I'm not going to fight them on their ground, and I would suggest humbly that none of us do also. So I like what you're saying about it, I like the energy. I can come out here and, you know, I know how to give a little speech at this point. I mean, I really can't do too much more than that, you know? for the moment, I mean, not that I wouldn't, I mean, I'm always happy to provide guidance, but Lord knows I've And the, and the Mossad and all these people fear, they don't fear little terrorists, they don't fear garage bombs, they fear people who can script a narrative that shows the lies of their own, and that's why they attack you. They don't attack you for your weaknesses, they attack you for your strength. Part of that strength is truth, and part of that strength is when you can build a convention built on truth that takes away their lies. That's what we need to do. There's a hundred ways to do it. Happy to get the questions, Victory, whomever↗

1:03:23Speaker 3Offer, you know, ideas. And, and then, like I said, it's, it's what people run with. But, I, I think that we gotta do something this summer because we're running out of time. We're running out of time.↗

1:03:36Ian MalcolmI couldn't agree with you more. So well stated. Let's go to, Victory, and then we'll go to Kip's Labyrinth. And if anybody wants to come up and ask a question to Tim or to Tom, feel free to, request a microphone.↗

1:03:49Speaker 4My goodness, you guys. Number one, Ian, man, thanks for hosting Spaces and stuff like, thanks for letting just random dudes like us talk. I've got a few things I would like to talk about, but number one, Tom, I have never heard of you before. So for those of us in the viewership and such, like, who are you and why is Ian Malcolm giving you a platform?↗

1:04:16Speaker 3Yeah, thank you, for asking that. So, for people who came in a little bit later, my name's Tom Kaczynski, where you probably would know me coming to the scene maybe 2017, I was a town manager in Maine who got fired for saying it's okay to be white, and I didn't cuck, and that started a long, interesting pathway into the combination of, politics, philosophy, hermits, whatever, things like that, as time has gone by.↗

1:04:45Speaker 3Done a number of different things, and I've written a lot of books that have kind of created trails, talking more problems with the Fed, talking more potential of a civil war, potential of demographic displacement, a lot of different things. I, I, I'm a polymath. I don't like to put myself in one sort of lane, but I, I networked pretty well, and I, how should I say it? I wouldn't call myself an influencer, but People who would be known throughout what used to be the outright dissident networks, I have conversations with people about ideas and ways to actualize things, because at the end of the day, I'm a tactician and a strategist. I look at, the way patterns work, and that's sort of how I like to fight. So Ian is kind enough to do that because we have, mutual friends doing networking, and we've gotten to know each other a little bit, and sometimes people find value in certain things. I say, I am so shadow banned, the algorithm hates me like you wouldn't believe, and I've been blocked off every platform, I've been debanked, I've, I've basically run the gamut, and but I'm kinda like the cockroach they can't take out. I figure out how to survive, and so that is kind of where I come from, and because of that, it gives me a certain perspective, because if you, if you get pushed outside the system, and you look at the system for what it is, and you look at how it gets weaponized against you, you begin to understand it a little more deeply. So that gives you a little bit of my background, but I would add one other point. I don't ever want anyone to listen to me because of who I am. I want people to listen if they think the ideas make sense, because it doesn't make a big difference at all about anything I say. It's are the ideas useful? We don't need leaders, we need ideas that can survive a leaderless movement, because otherwise it won't work. So that's a little bit about me, but thank you for the question↗

1:06:42Speaker 4Yeah, so, yeah, so, so you're, you, you were a public figure or trying to be a public figure, and then you were talking about truth and such, and they were like, "Nah, we ain't having this," and they, they ousted you, and then you've, you've continued to, to speak about it, and that's where we're at right now, yeah?↗

1:07:02Speaker 3I was, yes, I was, I was in charge of a town in Maine. I was in charge of Jackman, Maine. I was, it wasn't an elected office, so it was a paid position. They basically, essentially in New England, the way the system works, I was basically in charge of running the town day to day business, and that was how that worked. And since then, I have done many things, but, most recently, as I was saying, I actually have focused on consciousness research, AI development, and, and, working on Of biblical texts, but it doesn't mean that I can't come back in because I don't believe in my whole life being politics. I don't think it's useful, I don't think it's helpful, I don't even enjoy it, but- Sometimes issues come up and they have to be addressed, and so the reason I've come on now, and I came before all this crap with Iran really fully, started, Ian can attest to that, I, I t-reached out to him, was because I wanted to talk about the Epstein moment b-as a unique singular opportunity for us to unite people against the common oppression we face.↗

1:08:11Speaker 4Yeah, no, yeah, dude, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm with you. N-None of us, dude, no, nobody wants to, nobody wants to step up and like disrupt their entire life to speak out against what the hell's going on right now. So I, I totally understand that and respect the hell out of it. dude, man, oh So anyway, so, what, what I was wondering, so you were talking about, you know, the trucking industry and the shipping lanes and, and how easily disrupted that is, and how, the establishment right now, you know, and, oh, whatever, blah, blah, blah, the Jews, blah, blah, blah, right? Like how they're turning on each other right now, and based off of that, is the, you know, facts and shit that's coming out from the Epstein files and all that stuff?↗

1:08:58Speaker 4Man, it's a, it's a crazy time right now.↗

1:09:03Speaker 4the, the, the insanity, it seems insane to us, right? Like, so I was always aware of, you know, there was always a shadow organization, you know, back, back in like, this was really back in like 2010, right? Like, I graduated high school in 2007. worked at a telemarketing agency because I didn't know what I wanted to do. I was completely, you know, mind fucked by the, the goy slop on media and all the other entertainment industries, and just didn't know what I wanted, didn't know whatever the fuck, was just going with the flow. And then somebody, at the,↗

1:09:43Speaker 4you know, telemarketing industry I was working at, handed me a book from David Icke that was like, "Oh, it's lizard aliens and all this other bullshit," and looked in And it's like, oh yeah, the, the Washington DC is based off of pentagram, satanic symbolism, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, lizard aliens and all that shit. I'm like, alright, alright, alright, that's, you don't, you, you're getting a little crazy with the lizard alien shit, but like this fucking satanic symbolism stuff is like, what the fuck is that? And then that's how I started my journey, right? And we've gotten to a point now where all of this Epstein shit has come out, and I was, again, Some kind of bullshit, but I always thought it was like Illuminati, Rothschilds, evil shit, and then it has, it's just now come to a point where we understand that↗

1:10:33Speaker 4it's the Jews, whatever you wanna call it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Oh my God, he's not just a Semite, yeah. Now, well, you dig deep enough, the fucking tea becomes silent at the end of the rabbit hole, right? So that's where we're at. And the unfortunate point of this is that they have embedded themselves so deeply into the infrastructure of our fucking government that, motherfucker, I'm sure most of you, in which, to that point, Ian, I am very shocked that, fuckin', hey, there's, like, when I scroll down, there's only twenty-nine other listeners, which is a shockingly small amount of listeners, so I'm sure you're being throttled. But regardless of that Man, it's, it's, it's, it's get-- it's catching on quick, man. Everybody I know, man, I've been working, so I, I, I am currently now a welder, right? I went from a, a deadbeat, you know, CS, of, a fucking telemarketer, right? For ten years of my life I wasted at that place 'cause I didn't know what I wanted to do.↗

1:11:34Speaker 4I went from that to this within eight years, you know, I, I worked there for ten years and then now it's And dude, all of my coworkers, anybody that works with their hands and actually produces shit on a daily basis and makes things with their hands, has pride in it and understands that Honest work produces honest pay, and we don't fuck with bullshit, you know, free money, all this other nonsense, basic UI n-- We don't fuck with that shit. And everybody I know that I talk to about shit like this is up and up on, on, you know, it's, it's the fucking Jews. And I, I know that's a controversial shit in a lot of other spaces and a lot of other situations and stuff, but it's becoming more and more and more mainstream with this, right? Like Tucker Carlson's been vilified I don't know if I'm one hundred percent with the guy, he said some shit I don't agree with, he said or all the shit I do agree with, whatever the hell you wanna think about it, this shit's becoming mainstream, right? Like there was the dude who just got his fucking arm broken, the marine who was in the, in that hearing or whatever the hell it was, and was talking about, "Yo, we, we don't wanna die for Israel," and a bunch of other people, including a fucking senator, forcibly ejected him from the fucking room, and he hooked his arm The door frame and they broke his arm. Now, to be fair, they didn't intentionally break his arm, that wasn't their goal to break his arm to remove him, but they did indeed break his motherfucking arm to remove him, alright? So that did indeed happen. That's insane. But that's the point. Just one thing real fast,↗

1:13:24Speaker 3don't be, don't, don't apologize for that, by the way. Make them own their own failures. We, we, we don't have to be fair to them. W-why are we being fair to them? them. When were they fair to us? You know, this, this is something I think is so important, right? And I'm not saying to insult you. You, you're a, you're a better person than they are, and that's what keeps getting us into trouble. It's the same reason they count on us to be responsible when they aren't, right? And that's what gets us into so much issues. And I just wanna bring that point forward here a little bit because I think it's, it's, it's utterly central to how we have to construct this battle. And, Jews. In fact, it's better, to be frank, if you don't say it and they see it's them, because a lot of times people won't believe things until they see it. So we set up situations where they reveal themselves and then they come to you, like, "I've had it happen to me so many times. People be like, "Tom, is it really that way? " And if it is that way, then it is that way, and they make it that way, you know? So sorry to interject, but,↗

1:14:27Speaker 3it's, it's just When the enemy, when the opposition is doing something that gets them in trouble, let's not pull them out of it. Let's make them double down. 'Cause you know what they're gonna do? Let's say you call out this guy, and instead of we say, "Oh, it was an accident," we make a big stink about him. I guarantee you, his donors are gonna require him to defend his own action. So then the visual of government that we have going forward is a senator breaking the hand of a Marine veteran who was only- Saying, "I don't wanna fight a war that I said I signed up to fight for the Constitution, for a country that shouldn't have command over me." You know what I mean?↗

1:15:11Speaker 4Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I, I, one hundred percent, dude. No, That, that, that, that, that kind of brings me to the, to the point of, what you were talking about earlier about them, you know, kind of turning on themselves, right? Like, so what's happening right now, and we all know they, quote unquote, the Jews, right? Like, they, they are, they're so fucking greedy that if they are presented with an opportunity to, you know, make some shekels, they'll fucking do it. So what's happening right now is that they're getting fucking panicked. And we know throughout history and through multiple, you know, publications and books and such that when they start to fucking panic, it turns into goddamn chaos, and their base desires will reveal themselves. I, i.e., example, if you post some shit that they don't like, and then a somebody, they, they sue you, you can recruit a fucking lawyer, a Jew, to fucking sue them back And they will totally do it if they think they can make money. And you can see that, like, motherfucking Hillary Clinton or what, you know, they present as Hillary Clinton, we don't know if that was a body double or not or a clone or whatever the fuck else, whatever. Hillary Clinton was just recently on fucking tribunal, fucking whatever the fuck else. Motherfucker, they brought up Frazzled Drip. They literally said, "Yo, Frazzled Drip, what the fuck?" And she, she made the motions where she like- She, she put her fucking hands on her face as if she was putting the skin of a kid on her face, like, you know, like you can't deny that shit, alright? So, yeah, if shit's going down, you can, at this point in time, when they're going crazy and they are literally turning on each other For profit because they don't recognize that this is a point where we all recognize what's going on, right? They don't understand that we understand, so they're more than willing to make a few shekels off of each other because that's how deceitful they are.↗

1:17:12Speaker 3So if I can build on that, what I wanna say is, what their superpower is, and this goes back to what we were saying at the beginning of the presentation about the word, they are dark sorcerers who use chaos as a magic. They figure that if you're Upset about Epstein, they're going to keep creating problems until we are torn up into a million factions. We have a war with Iran now, they might start a war with Turkey. They're gonna cause so much chaos, just like they brought people into our country who had no right being here, why? So that low class people could fight low class people, low class people who were ignored by our education system, who were being used as debt slaves, are now fighting against low class immigrants who were brought in here with false promises that they paid to- Move in here. And, and the reason I say that it's all dark sorcery is you were talking about, David Icke a little bit, and you were talking about how we can textualize what Epstein is. Epstein is very simple to understand. It's a mafia, just like in the Italian mafia in the old days, they had made men, right? You had to kill someone to be in the mafia, and someone had to watch you do it so you were part of the blackmail cult. What government is, are the people who care so much about power that they agreed to blackmail as the↗

1:18:27Speaker 3You know, think of the seven thousand dollar influencer money we were talking about, except a lot worse than that. And everyone who's in that position of authority, and anyone who's been around long enough will tell you this is how it works, that you don't get above a certain level It won't be throttled, unless you bend the knee, alright? And I'm not doing that to cast aspersions on anyone in particular. People come out of it, people come into it, but by and large, once you reach a certain level, okay, just to, to some inside pool from someone who's been in politics way too long, then you get the FBI visits, then you get the letters from sponsors saying, "Hey, would you moderate your opinion? Would you say this?" There's a whole infrastructure that exists to say you can be part of the creative chaos, and we don Anymore. And, and, and, and, you know, evil is the inability to see the relevance, the good, the love of the other person, right? They don't believe we are people. In fact, they-- what they really believe, if you really get into it, you read their texts, is that, you know, they are a different kind of person. You know, we're animals. They say we're goyim, they mean it. They're hurting us like livestock, and they don't think of it as immoral because they think of themselves as a different tribe above↗

1:19:41Speaker 3Oh, well, you know, it's just Zionism. No, it's not. It's the heart of Judaism. The Book of Joshua is a manual for genocide. No one ever complains about that, you know? And that's why Christ came to displace the Old Testament, if you study the stuff, but people don't know the theology.↗

1:19:59Speaker 4Yeah, that's, that's kind of, that's, that's, that's, that, that kind of leads me into another point that I, I wasn't initially wanna, wanting to get into, but you, you brought it up. So essentially what, what, you know, the whole war with Iran and the Middle East and all this bullshit, right? Like, so back in 1948, right, in bullshit, the Rothschilds created the nation state of, quote, Israel, end quote. They were initially gonna go with Judea, but they decided the name of↗

1:20:28Speaker 4The, the American and European, you know, Christians to side with them, and then they, they came up with a Schofield's Bible and all this other bullshit. Motherfucker, if you look on Turning Point USA after, after Charlie Kirk was murdered you look on Turning Point USA and their Bible reference, and you look into, you know, the references about Israel, they changed it from the, you know, the, the, the seed of Israel to the state of Israel, to Trump, what? Oh man, it's, it's, it's, you couldn't,↗

1:21:05Ian Malcolmyou couldn't even make it ten seconds, you had to, to jump in. Tom, I, I apologize. this is Yitz. Yitz is, what would you think, the, the resident Jew of X who loves to come into the spaces that we host, and it's, hey, I, I welcome any and all. Yitz, I, I have to give him credit because he tends to be pretty respectful, and, and as long as everybody can have a, a mutually respectful conversation, I think it's a good thing. but he does have some takes that I find ridiculous, and that's totally fine, 'cause But, Tom, I just wanted to, to introduce you to Yitz because he, he did come in and I guess requested a mic, so I always like to, to give people a chance. Well, let me say hello to↗

1:21:48Speaker 3the gentleman then. Yitz, it's nice to meet you. There, there, it'll be entertaining. This isn't the first time I remember Yitz. Oh, fuck. Alright, well, let me, let me↗

1:22:01Ian Malcolmspeak, okay? Just 'cause, let me cook. So Yitz, welcome. This'll be good. Get the, get, The, the, the skillet here. Yeah.↗

1:22:11Speaker 3So yes, I, I don't know.↗

1:22:12Speaker 5I just want to say that I might not be on for very long because I'm going to be busy in about like five minutes. But if you're still going, I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not sure↗

1:22:21Speaker 3I'm not sure I'm not sure I'm not Okay, thank you. So what I was going to say is, I, I wanted to see if Yitz would be excited to join us in a broad front effort to remove pedophilia from America by saying that we're going to stop this country from what it's doing by getting rid of everyone in this government who is being unethical, by saying that realistically the whole United States government needs to be replaced and citizens need to resume authority in this country because we understand that whoever's responsible for it, it doesn't matter, that all- All of our elites don't represent us, they are being bought and controlled by foreign interest, and that any reasonable nation that's going to exist requires popular sovereignty to that extent. American law under FERA requires that as well, that we aren't to be run by any foreign country. I'd say it is true of, of, of any country in the world, in any continent. It's not a singular position I hold, it's an ethical position I hold, and I wanna see if you would stand with me in agreement of those positions, or if not, if you- You instead are someone who believes that we need to enable pedophiles because it serves the narrow interest of a given country, which would be unfortunate because I want to assume you are a good and moral person, knowing nothing else about you so far.↗

1:23:37Speaker 5No, Tom, it can be simple. You can simply say that majority of-- No, I won't say that. I wouldn't say the majority, but definitely Donald Trump, for instance, is not complicated.↗

1:23:51Speaker 5Yes,↗

1:23:51Ian Malcolmyes. Let me, let me try and simplify Tom's question. Would you be in favor of removing all pedophiles from positions of power in America?↗

1:23:59Speaker 5If that were to be the case, yes.↗

1:24:01Ian MalcolmOkay, hey, Tom, we got some, some middle ground there. We're, we're moving some ground. We, we can do this,↗

1:24:06Speaker 3you know, at the end of the day, no one supports bad governance. And I'll put it bluntly, it's, if you're, let's say you're a hardcore raging Zionist, you don't think there's gonna be a rollback from this? I mean, realistically, this reset needs to happen. And frankly, the se-- the, the separation of American foreign policy from Israel foreign policy is a win-win for both sides. Whatever Israel wants↗

1:24:31Speaker 3And the responsibility of what their neighbors do to them in response to it. The United States should be separated from that. And, and I would say that's true of any two countries. That's not in, that's just basic logic, you know?↗

1:24:46Speaker 5There is a good case to be made for that. For instance, if Kamala Harris or AOC became, becomes the next president, Israel would be in trouble. So there actually is a case to be made for that. D-what?↗

1:25:03Speaker 3Well, I mean, the thing about it is that, I mean, Gavin Newsom of all people was out there offering questions about Israel, but the whole thing is, Israel's survival shouldn't be predicated in any way, shape, or form on anything that happens in the United States of America, and the fact that that happens is as much a problem for you as it is for us, and that severance and separation needs to happen because it only can engender bad will on all sides. I- I don't have an inherent problem with a Jewish homeland. I actually really don't. I think it's a solution to a lot of problems. I think where they put it was a disaster for various different reasons, but we are where we are now, and I'm, I'm a, I'm a pragmatist and I'm a realist, and I'm not really concerned about what we are doing with foreign countries. Other than that, I would note, given the extreme economic stress that many Americans are under, that inflation has been terrible, we simply cannot afford to build a war fair state that is fighting wars in the Middle East for Israel, for Qatar, for Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iraq, you name the countries, any of them, we simply can't afford to do it, and all we are doing is destroying ourselves in the fights over it. So, this isn't the big issue that I am here for today, but it's gonna come up, so that's fine, I don't mind talking about it. And I don't, I don't have animus against anyone in particular. Look, individuals grow up in their different frames. I understand Understand that. I went to a college full of a bunch of communists when I was young, and I thought wearing a beret made me look cool. Now instead I wear a hat and have a big bushy beard, which makes me look ridiculous, but I embrace it because it's fun. That being said, as we grow up and as we evolve, people need to find a way to get along together, and the way that people get along together is when we are decent and we don't have leverage systems over one another. So what am I-- what I am presenting tonight is a way to remove↗

1:26:59Speaker 3Echelon of society, which is just to say that the United States government, I think we can say, has lost the confidence of the American people, not as a Republican-Democratic issue, but as a structural issue, and everything I am arguing is in relation to that. So I'll give it back to Ian to do his MC thing.↗

1:27:18Ian MalcolmNo, it was very, very well, delivered there, Tom, and, and, I know that we had Kip up here, so let's check in with, with Kip's labyrinth, and then we'll, we'll go over to Mr. Sam Moore.↗

1:27:29Speaker 5Well, just real quick, just real quick, Ian, just real quick, a question for both of you, do you both intend to go on, like like to one, like it's at 11:20 where I'm at, do you intend to go to like 1 or 2 AM? Because I could, I, because I'm gonna be busy coming up like within five minutes, but I'd be more than happy to call back later.↗

1:27:49Ian MalcolmWell, if we're still running, yes, you're, you're certainly welcome back. And if we're not, I think Mr. Truthstar will be running, in, into those, later hours. And so either way, I'm, I'm, I'm looking forward to it. Oh,↗

1:28:00Speaker 5dear God. Well, I don't enter his spaces and I've blocked him, and he's blocked me, so, but I'll try to join yours later. Wise choice.↗

1:28:08Speaker 4Man, some of us gotta wake up at four thirty in the morning to go to work, Okay, well, thank you, Ian. I'll try to turn it off↗

1:28:16Speaker 3for tomorrow to be here to do this, 'cause I know it is hard getting up early. Much love to people who wake up early, I'm one of them.↗

1:28:26Ian MalcolmAnd, no, absolutely. And, and look, I always let anybody and everybody come in. I, I'm certainly an advocate for free speech as long as you, you don't suggest anything radically violent, and I do that because of the terms of service and, of course, just as a general good practice. I, I, I don't need to advocate violence. Yes,↗

1:28:44Speaker 5I would just say, two quick points to Tom, as, as quick counterpoints, before I go in case he's not here later on when I return.↗

1:28:55Speaker 5Between Israel and the United States, I hope you don't mean, total like, joint development of military development, for example, or financial, you know, with stocks. You know, we don't need, you know, I mean, I agree the aid shouldn't be stopped because it, handles, Israeli autonomy, but, we don't need a total separation, it could just be like any other country, like United States relations with the UK or with Japan. And, on the second point about entitlements, we've already been Due to high entitlement spending like Medicare and Medicaid long before there was a conflict in, in Iran, and, actually the entitlement programs cost us it was like eighteen trillion dollars, I believe, in the time of the Iraq and Afghanistan war, and that was for Social Security and for Medicare and Medicaid, it was about fifteen trillion, whereas Iraq and Afghanistan together, took about two point one trillion. so the entitlements cost-- falling to falling more than other conflicts in, of course, let me↗

1:29:55Speaker 3save you a lot of time by just saying that I would support a radical simplification↗

1:30:00Speaker 6The government on both the welfare and warfare fronts that would solve a lot of these problems. So I agree with you that there is overwhelming domestic spending. I don't see that the overspend on one is a reason to say that the overspend on the others justified, and I think we can reduce both of those in unison.↗

1:30:21Speaker 7Yes, yes, that's true, Tom. they're not exclusive, like, you know, we can try to take care of our domestic issues at the same time that we try to, combat, combat one.↗

1:30:32Speaker 6you know, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's↗

1:30:38Speaker 7akin to, like, if we beef up the police, the hospitals are going to degrade, but that's not the case. But, but continue please. But↗

1:30:46Speaker 6you had, yeah, you had said that, "Do I advocate for a complete corporate separation?" I argue for corporate separation on issues related directly to defense and national security. I think that countries would be welcome to do that. I think that, you know, with respect to the United States and Israel specifically, this isn't a situation like NATO where we have a specific alliance. We basically have what accounts to an obligation that exists because of certain political factions that exist. If there was going to be- An actual alliance, then if you, if your argument is that those industries should be linked, then that alliance should be, debated publicly and it should be voted on, and we would see what happens in that. I think you would find it would prove a lot less popular if it was explicit versus implicit, but that is an issue that we are not dealing with in the present situation. As far as other business endeavors go, companies can do as they will. I don't necessarily love that system, but I'm not here to argue the benefits of corporate personhood tonight.↗

1:31:45Speaker 7Yes, Tom. I, I'm gonna leave in, in a moment, but yes, I do agree with you on, on your stance there, that, you know, the, countries should be deemed as a, the state should be deemed, Israel should be treated as a normal state, as we treat any other state, like South Korea or the UK. you know, there, there is a special relationship in a theological sense But, I agree with you because, a lot of Israeli autonomy was, was highly, destabilized during the Biden-Harris administration. In fact, plenty of Israelis died as a result because Biden wouldn't refuse to sign the critical, critical munitions that Israel badly needed. So I do agree with you on that. And, thank you for having me in, and I'll try to join back later tonight.↗

1:32:32Ian MalcolmWell, thank you, and look, disagreements, can be held in civil fashion, so always, always appreciate that, and thank you, Yates, for stopping by. Let's go to, Kip's Labyrinth, and then we'll, like I said, check in with Sam Moore.↗

1:32:46Speaker 8Hey, thanks, Ian. Hey, thanks, Tom. you guys are such fast talkers, and I'm a slow talker, so I'm gonna apologize, in advance. But, you know, early, early on, when you were talking, Tom Everybody really needs to think hard, re-rethink their assumptions and get serious about that. And I was just thinking, a, a little tip for people in the space, if they just try it for four weeks, it'll change the way you think. And then it's just to, try removing "is" from your vo-vocabulary and s-say maybe, seems like, appears to me, just try other words, and it'll, it'll make you, s-subconsciously or consciously both re-think Think all those, declarations, those assumptions, and that, that might help people to get to where you're talking about, Tom. Also, I heard you mis-mention,↗

1:33:40Speaker 8Carl Jung. And, and I remember him saying, at one time that he said the psyche of man was the sine qua non of the world as an object, but he said unfortunately, He's been swamped, it's been swamped by external objects. And think about it, Tom, he lived in a time, we live, live in a time now to where the doubling of data happens in less than every twelve months. Data is doubling, so it was bad enough in Young's time, but now we're living in a time where not only are we swamped by external objects, but you can add data to the equation as well.↗

1:34:18Speaker 8and also I was thinking, you know, when you were talking about your idea, I'm gonna let you keep this, you can play with this, but I wrote down "Hooties on the Home Front." You know, you want to kinda get everybody kinda, Thinking about something and, and kinda get, get everybody to concentrate. They always need a, a slogan, so you can, you can try that one on "Hooties of the Home Front." And also, as you were talking about that, I don't know, I'm still-- I'm not a Christian, but I'm, I'm still kinda peeved about the fact that the way they,↗

1:34:50Speaker 8the State of Israel decided they were gonna geo-fence Christians at their churches and, at their, Christian colleges. So I don't know, maybe if somebody's Maybe geofence some synagogues and see how they like it for a while. And also earlier you were talking about like heaven and hell, and sometimes I wonder if, America hadn't just now slipped into hell. I think maybe we were there before, but, you know, in my mind, you're in hell if you capitulate to the devil by siding with the machine manufacturer. You know, he can- He can make all these things for you, but he's gonna take your humanity. You know, he can give you everything you need, but your humanity. And when I think about the Jews, the tiny hats, the chosen people, sometimes I wonder, Ian and Tom, if they're not just more of like a trial, a morality test,↗

1:35:47Speaker 8for a society, a culture, and the test is sort of this, are your sons are gonna be able to, Resist Rabbi, Solomon Friedman's attempts to destigmatize pornography. is your children gonna be able to stand up and resist, Pizza Boy Dave Portnoy as he tries to do the same thing with gambling? are you gonna be able to hire someone with enough scruples and integrity like Tom, but yet he's gonna be popular enough to win the presidency? And have the scruples to resist the evil that the Adelsons and, you know, all that little c- that contraption that they all, that they all represent, you know? So really, on some level, it's on us. And sometimes when I scratch my head thinking about these things, 'cause I think about 'em when I'm, when I'm walking my dog sometimes, I wonder, did we screw up when we like let 'em, set up the tent, you know? Or is it just incumbent upon to us like, to like just resist by right? Rising up, you know, those, that, that base nature, you know what I mean, and tell them, "Damn it, I'm not gonna be that. You're not gonna, you're not, you're gonna, you're not gonna rule me, rule me by my base nature. I'm bigger than that." So I don't know if you guys had any, anything on that. I just appreciate you guys, broaching these subjects. Thanks, man.↗

1:37:14Speaker 6So, Kip, let me first say thank you for your comments, and I'm going to make a mental note to talk slower. I decided when Yiz was on there, I wasn't going to let him determine how that conversation went. I was going to take control of that conversation, I was going to put him on the back foot, and I was going to make him agree with me, which is why he seemed reasonable because I take it from all of you that he usually isn't. And that is the method at work that I was demonstrating for you. Because I spent a lot of years in New York and, New England, I can talk very fast when I need to, but I prefer talking slower, and I prefer talking about the sort of things Kip was talking about, which is, I, I would start this with a thought that I think is important, which is when Christ asked, "Do you serve me or do you serve the world? Do you serve me or do you serve the temple?" And when Christ talked about his service, he talked about his yoke being light. He asked for two things actually, it was very explicit, to God, which is to honor your creator, which is to mean you make sure you take care of what you're given, right? And to love others as you love yourself, which means to have regard for them and to see other people as having value as well. So from a position of fundamental decency, which is what I think was at the heart of what you were articulating, if we look at the world as a place of subjects that need to be regarded with care, not just people, you know, institutions, animals, we don't want- I want to live in the sort of Jungian, post-Jungian nightmare of a world of objects. I thought your observation about data was very sharp, and I would add two pieces to it, time and ledgers. We live in a world that compared to any time in human history, is slotted, accounted for. One of the things, as I was studying ancient Greek, that I really appreciated was they don't think of time like we do. They literally have three different words for time. They have We have Chronos, which is essentially the time we're used to, the passage of time that is marked by seasons, and then they have Kairos, which is like the moment of opportunity. So anytime that you see in a biblical text where it's talking about, you know, at the given appointed time, that's just Greek way of saying that there are truths that are eternal, Young would say archetypal,↗

1:39:41Speaker 6Christian would say just true, holy. Are that stand the test of time, and that these are fought out over the aeon, which is that there is a recurring cycle, and that depending upon how you look at it, you can pull yourself into or out of that trap if you are willing to look at time as, is time the sequence of events that I am living in day to day, or is it the timeless truth where I step out and say, "I'm not going to live in this world anymore because it's too evil. I'm going to seek a heaven or at least a- A step closer to it that I can believe in by saying, "Hey, I'm not gonna let these things keep happening with these kids because of data or money or time or any of these other things." So I think what you are articulating Is absolutely at the heart of this struggle. And to come back to your original point that you had made, where you were talking about how maybe instead of saying is, say maybe, I actually take the opposite approach, but for the same reason. And let me explain why. I like using firm declarative statements because it's how I am grounding myself. If I say I am speaking truly against a person who wants to speak corruption, I am affirming myself. I am not ever speaking with other people People have to believe. That doesn't help. I don't speak of abjects, I don't speak of what has to be. I let the world be open because I want to live in a world of a supernatural God who could do miraculous things like deliver the United States out of this disaster we're in. But I am going to speak for myself very clearly and invite you to also have that same experience. So I agree with you that how you structure language is at the heart of things, and I would encourage you to think of yourself as the- Center subject of a world of subjects you wanna create, because every time one of us becomes a subject and not an object, every time one of us becomes a vector upon which the world is changing, we aren't an object in their ledgers to be turned into cattle. And that is the battle that we really need to win, and I think you're speaking to Kip. So I hope I remembered most of what you covered. I'm getting old and my memory isn't what it used to be, but thank you.↗

1:41:55Speaker 8And I appreciate that last bit because, you know, intentionality means a lot. And I don't know, just for myself, when I go out into the world and I reflect a certain way and I, and I have, and I make a concerted effort to, like, to be open or whatever, you know, those some bitches in the world, they reflect right back. The same people that are just closed up like clams. You know, when I'm being a clam, they clam right back to me. So just, there's something to be said, whether it's dark magic Magic, the intentionality means a whole lot more than the average bear realizes. But thanks again, Tom, and again, and, and you can push me back down and let, let, let the speaker up if you need to, buddy.↗

1:42:36Ian MalcolmNo, please, please stay up and, and Kip, thank you so much for that. And, Tom, as, as a quick question, then we'll go to, to Sam. what was just stated there, the, the, the black magic look? There, maybe there's a, another side to that, and what I mean is kind of this idea of the secret, right? The, the power of positive thinking, if you will, manifesting your future. It does feel like, in the time that I've taken, and, and look, this is gonna be a very myopic perspective, but I'm curious if you have, perhaps the same opinion, which is that from the time that I started thinking this is a problem, this thing that I talk about all the time, which is Jewish supremacy, right? In that- That, let's say, decade or so, looking at this lens, it was, "This is clearly an issue, this needs to be discussed. I want to try and bring about a change. I don't know how I'm gonna..." As that arc happened, and as I put time and tension, and, and kind of a righteous effort, or at least what I aim to try and make a righteous effort, to bring attention to this in a way that can bring an end to what I believe is evil, there's been almost a proportionate rise in awareness to the problem as has gone in line with My attention to that problem, if that makes sense. And so in this own, again, very myopic fashion, it almost feels like the more I direct attention at exposing this issue The more the issue gets exposed at a macro level in a weird way, and I, I maybe it's just random coincidence or maybe what Kip was just saying that we have far more power than we would otherwise prospectively give ourselves credit for, and while we might not be able to change the world, we can put our actions and our attentions and our interests to try and make it better in the small way that we can, and that we can become, you know, just like the, the winds that, that emerge from the butterfly that become the hurricane, right? In our small way, when we take These truths out to the world, we speak them with other people, that we make the world better. And so, Tom, I'm kind of curious if you feel like maybe there's something to that, and if we can reverse that dark magic and maybe create some of our own merely just by spreading the truth.↗

1:44:43Speaker 6Absolutely. You know, in, in the Bible, it talks about, there's two lines I wanna bring up. First is you see God refer to Himself as I am, right? And I think that's really interesting because I am is always the positive articulation that makes anything and everything possible. So to your point about intentionality, when you say I am the solution or I am the voice crying in the wilderness against the oppression of my people, which is essentially what you've said, Ian, you will You'll find that the strength you assume from taking the role you have owned changes the development of your life because you have owned what is happening. Instead of being an object in someone else's story, you are the subject at your own story, and you become what's called a strong attractor, right? You start pulling things in towards you. And what you would find if you went further down the esoteric path of consciousness, you know, in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with Him, the beginning of the Gospel of John, is you begin threading Different ideas, you know, Trump actually said something clever once. He was talking about how he weaves things, but we understood this as the fates in ancient Greece. This is the heart of our civilization, if you go back far enough, that when you can pull different people together, when you can pull these Jungian archetypes, and when you can pull the understanding, the compassion of what different people are going through, and you say, "Hey, you don't want your kids hurt, and you don't want your kids hurt," or you say, "Everyone has a threat in this," you are A bundle that's strong. I mean, let's be honest, that's what Mussolini was talking about with the fascists, right? But any bundle thread of ideas is going to be stronger, and if you wed a thread of ideas, personal agency, and truth, which truth is the hard part Truth is the one thing we can never figure out, but you know what we can do? Most of us are very good at one thing, pointing out lies. If we don't lie to ourselves, which is ninety five percent of truth, honestly, it really is, because there are a lot of lies we just accept because, oh, it's just the way things are. I don't know the way things are. I don't know the sun's gonna come up tomorrow, and you know why I don't know it? I don't want to know it, because I want to live in a world where↗

1:46:59Speaker 6Back to Kip's point, if I live in a world where everything is empirically judged, you wanna look where things went downhill and when the materialists came and the psychologists came, we gotta go back to, to, you know, to, to Sabatier, Zavie, we gotta go back look at them, the, the Frankists, to, to Jacob, to all these things, and these ideas that were thrown over us that we live in a world of objects that are fixed and our death is certain. Instead, we could live in a world of subjects. Children do it, they play make-believe and things happen. Old people do it, because they're so near the end, they can see over the horizon. But we are always rushing, and I will tell you the single biggest lie that we believe, and, and the Bible says this too, we are blinded by our eyes. Overwhelmingly, the, the sum reality of existence doesn't exist in the visual spectrum, but we think we're objective and logical because we only look with our eyes. Well, our eyes aren't what's keeping us alive, it's our hearts. And so if we can learn to think on things differently, and call it whatever you want, you call it the Holy Spirit, call it white wizardry, I don't really care, but call it a positive articulation of itself, in a world where you're the subject and you make a difference, that's the only way this Ever gets better, because otherwise you aren't sovereign, you are a slave laboring under a brutal reality as a fucking golem, and I don't think anyone wants to do that. So I think what you say is at the heart of it, Ian. if you're curious and you wanna kinda go into deep esoterica,↗

1:48:34Speaker 6look on, Amazon under Apostle Thomas, Articulation of the Logos. I wrote a little hundred twenty page book that's wild and crazy if you're into sort of Christian hermeticism, and you wanna go Deep down that rabbit hole. It could change your life, or it could be this complete gibberish. I can't tell you which, it's up to you. But not that I'm big on plugs, but it is helpful because I, I, I, I'm trying very hard tonight to try to give people tools rather than just ready-made solutions, because we all have different ideas. And I'm not here to say anyone's idea is good or bad. I'm here to help you find a way to get your idea to happen and to tell you, you don't need disbelief. Not because the I'm here to promise that articulation's gonna solve all your problems. I'm just here to say the only one who's gonna fix your problems is you. And if you don't believe in yourself, why the hell would anyone else believe in you or reality change to reflect that?↗

1:49:30Ian MalcolmSo beautifully stated, Tom, and, and the, the positivity, the optimism, and kind of the call to action, right? To take righteous indignation to the system that we live in and to try to figure out your voice, your ideas, your solutions to these problems. That's a call to everybody, right? It's, it's, it's a spectacular message. And, and again, I'm so thankful that you're here with us, and, and sharing that. I wanna give a quick little big shout out to, Miss Sharon, who came up here with us. Always so wonderful to have you, Sharon. And, we'll hop right over to you after, checking in with Mr. Sam Moore.↗

1:50:06Speaker 9Hey guys, hope everyone's doing alright tonight. this is actually a refreshing, space, if you will, from, from a myth teller. I call them myth teller, but a truth teller space is, quite hostile in there sometimes, or most of the time, pretty much all the time, but anyway. I love truth teller, just gonna say that. I know↗

1:50:30Speaker 9Man, but, no, it's, it's good to have open discourse. And I, you know, to what, the guy earlier was talking about, I, you know, I, I don't think we're, in the, in times yet. I think, we don't know the hour, and that's what Christ says, we don't know the day or the hour, but, who knows? it could be coming up. we hear wars and rumors of wars. but-↗

1:50:59Speaker 9you know, while times are terrible right now, read the book of Revelation, it, it gets worse. but we have reassurance, and I wanna emphasize this, we have reassurance if you read, well, look at Revelation twenty-one, one through seven, Christ is making all things new, and He is creating, He will create a new heaven, new earth, and, bring peace. but I wanna, one, another point I wanted to make is that we, we need to be Be careful to, you know, when we're talking about these, these conflicts in Iran and around the world, what these things are right now, they're, they're not wars right now, they are, operations. So, and I hope and I pray, and I, I think we can find common ground on this, is that I hope and pray that they remain and stay Short and quick and precise operations, with minimal casualties and that we can end them quickly and bring peace, around the world and, and, again, I, I agree with y'all. middle, some middle ground here. I agree with y'all that I, I don't wanna be fighting other countries' wars, and I, I think that's the president's policy too. We don't wanna be fighting Israel's wars. We don't wanna-- and, and I think that's kind of why- Why we are in part in this conflict, we are there to do it precisely and to do it quickly, whereas some other nations, who may be controlled by the deep state more so, are, you know, would be in this war endlessly with Iran, like we've seen for the past fifty years. So that's really the point I wanted to make, is that we're kinda taking the ball here and we're con- kinda controlling, the narr- or not the narrative, but, the The operation and, keeping it short, precise, minimal casualties, and our goal and objective is to bring peace. So,↗

1:53:06Speaker 9can agree with me, disagree with me, feel free.↗

1:53:10Speaker 6So I like your perspective. I wanna start by expanding a little bit on what you were talking about. You quoted, Revelation 21, and I often think about the word apocalypse. I, I translated Revelation myself from the Greek. I went, to the actual words and I looked at it. And what struck me about the way that certain words are translated is this question of time and place. Christ said, "The kingdom of heaven is within." The work is per- Affected on the cross. The day of the Lord is now, and what you start to realize when you look really closely at the way the Greeks use time is the moment that is promised by the Lord, tomorrow isn't promised. Is that the apocalypse, the revelation, literally, like this, the tearing of the veil, is something that already happened? And the problem is, we ended up in a time you look at the, miracles that were, talked about in the Book of Acts. We are living in the promised time, but we don't believe it because we've been sold and tricked into a world where we give our power away to people who say they are the intermediaries, and because we believe in falsehoods, the truths don't manifest. So I agree very much for scriptural reasons, actually, with your contention that not only do we not know the time But I would go further and say there isn't a time other than the time we have right now to realize the manifestation, because where does Christ tell us the kingdom of heaven is? He tells us it's within each of us. So it is something we are building. We are told to build the houses where we will reside in the future. This is all in the Gospel of John. So I think that's very, very important, and it's relevant to what you're talking about here in this regard, that if we begin actively thinking and working on what we are doing now in this moment as the realization of the world that we wanna have, that's when we're going to have the optimal success. Now, with respect to Iran, I personally think this war, I'm gonna call it that, is going to expand for one major reason, and, and we could go through and wargame it. I mean, I like talking geopol- Politics, it's a guilty pleasure of mine, but Iran has no incentive to back down, and that's the root of it. And the incentives aligned on the American side are going to push harder and harder. The only way I see this war going away is if domestic pressure takes away from the American force that-- Let, let's be honest, Israel is willing to fight this war to the last American. So if we don't pull ourselves out, our leadership in bondage to the Israeli Israelis through blackmail or through ideology, whatever you think it is, isn't going to do it for us. So that is why it's so essential that if we make the moral choice, we will get the moral decision, because I agree with you, the war isn't inevitable, but there is a perverse set of political incentives here that happen because we are enabling, or rather, we aren't removing a moral regime Because we are consenting to allow them to continue because we aren't willing to pay the personal and collective price of removing this evil that we see in our midst, and we don't have to know which individual it is. We know Washington is an evil place. We know Washington is something we should theoretically be an account for. And so whatever we have to do to accomplish that is actually what's needed, not just to save Israel, no, excuse me, Israel, Iran, or everyone in the Middle East. It's what we need to do to save ourselves, in my opinion, because if we don't do that, Iran is fighting for national survival at this point. We've had miniature wars, and what they're going to do is they're going to complete, continue lighting up the Middle East, because why wouldn't they? They have to raise the cost of, of operations, and they might figure that they can maybe win this thing, because winning for them just means holding together. And I'll be honest, creating martyrs generally doesn't decrease the cohesion of a society. Our decapitation by assassination strategy, which by the way, our government would be more than happy to use with our own people, you look at some of the things they're doing with laws about the usage of the National Guard, is something that should be concerning to all of us, because it's very easy to be- Turned into a target, and I think there's a lot to be said for limiting powers, but that only happens once we basically pull the plug on the current existing system, which is why at the beginning of this, for people who weren't here, I made the suggestion that we basically should park all our cars on the highways and let them sit there until the government gives in. But that was kind of my thinking on that. I do understand in a narrow sense that this, you could say, isn't a declared war, but the last time the United States, I believe, actually declared- War was, I think, against Romania in like nineteen forty-two or nineteen forty-three as part of World War II. So that's a little bit semantic for me, but↗

1:58:07Speaker 9okay,↗

1:58:07Speaker 6that's what I think. Thank you.↗

1:58:10Speaker 9Yeah, yeah, no, I, I, I get what you're saying, but yeah, and it, it goes to the Article Two powers, and of course, the President is the Commander in Chief of the military and, but yeah, no, I, I get it. we, ever since what, Gosh, before Reagan, before- It's↗

1:58:31Speaker 6simpler than this. Congress has abdicated its duty. Don't you agree? They don't do anything. They're- Yeah, well,↗

1:58:37Speaker 9they, they could pass laws to, you know, I, I think, or we could amend the Constitution, or we could, you know, the Congress could pass laws to more clearly define, you know, what, is war, and, so but- You can't afford to buy the-↗

1:58:57Speaker 6Congress though, and they↗

1:59:00Speaker 9can't, that's why it doesn't happen. Yeah, yeah. So, but nevertheless, I think, Iran, the Iranian regime is a, has, has been for the past fifty years. I mean, look at it, look at it before, the, the Ayatollah, the, radical Islamists came in. Look, I mean, if you look at the videos, if you look at the people and the culture, it was beautiful, it was beautiful. Well, you know, people were free and, and I, I I'd love to see it return to that. And, a-and again, I think we can all share the same goal in hoping that this is a quick and precise,↗

1:59:39Speaker 9conflict where Power can be restored to the Persian people, I call them Persian people, and, you know, we, we pull out. I, I, I truly believe that that will be our goal and that we will indeed pull out. I mean, I, I think we're there for a quick and precise, mission↗

2:00:00Speaker 10and, we'll, we'll be out of there. We gotta-- There are deep state assets over there, and there are deep state proxies that have to be annihilated, and we are taking them out very quickly, mind you. I mean, we've taken out their navy, we're taking out all their arsenals, and we're moving in, and the Iranian, Iranian people are happy. minimal casualties. And the Iranian↗

2:00:21Speaker 11people aren't happy. I mean, let, let's, let's be Look, I, I share your, your desire for a free Iran, I really do. this isn't how you get there, this is how you break a country. I mean, let's, let's be honest, they're bringing the Kurds in from the west. I'll fuck you up, yeah, yeah, you heard? They're bringing the Kurds in from the west, the Azerbaijanis from the northwest, the Baluchistan people, knees. They wanna tear it up just like they tore Syria up, just like they tore Libya up, just like they're trying to maybe tear Turkey up. And the, the goal of this, and the Israelis have even said it, they're like, "The Americans might wanna have a stable thing, but we just want chaos in the region, because chaos means we can expand, and we don't need to be a party to that." If, if Iran is ever going to break up, Have a fair government again. It has to be because America doesn't get involved. You criticize the government of, the Ayatollahs, right? But the thing about the Shah who was before it is, we put him in there,↗

2:01:22Speaker 10and↗

2:01:23Speaker 11my, my, my,↗

2:01:24Speaker 10no, no, no, no, no, the deep state did. Sorry. Well, no, no,↗

2:01:27Speaker 11but who, who, who are they,↗

2:01:28Speaker 10right? I mean, and he needs to, he ne- we need to take him back out, though. That's, sorry.↗

2:01:34Speaker 11Alright, so alright, if you think the problem is the deep state, totally fair. How you destroy the deep state is very simple. You destroy their budgeting. How you destroy their budgeting? You take away Congress. How you take away Congress? You park your car and you say, "We're not going to do another damn thing, 'cause none of this is in our name." Because this idea that you can negotiate with the system or make a deal with the system or, you know, work and write a law or a constitution, what good is a lawyer when you're going to a Talm↗

2:02:03Speaker 11By lawfare, you can't win by their rules, and that's the problem. It's a failure of the imagination, and I'm not attacking you. You seem like a good and decent person. You remind me of me when I used to work for Ron Paul back in the day, when I used to believe that there were, that laws mattered, and that people didn't get bought. But at the end of the day, I really think that we have to think bigger, faster, and go to what I said in the beginning of my presentation, motive forces the impact velocity. We don't have time to dance around the edges. And as far as Iran goes, you know, I, I hope they find a better governance structure. But if they decide to be a Shiite theocracy, the only reason we deal with terrorism is because we keep messing in the Middle East. That's the truth of it. And the minute we're done with that, I don't think it's gonna happen anymore, because why would it?↗

2:02:56Speaker 12Yeah, Tom, can I, can I jump in here? I'm, I'm newer, newer to, to Twitter or X Spaces, but, thank you for your dissertation here, and I, I would agree with you, and I think, b-b-before we look at Iran, you know, I think we, we need to take a, a deep look here in the States, look at ourselves first, and y-you guys have tackled a lot of really interesting topics, everything from spirituality to, to quantum, to, you know, the truth and all that. So let↗

2:03:26Speaker 12A believer, and I think that, no matter what, we're saved, and the truth is, we are saved by, by Jesus, and we should spend more time there than anything else, because as you said before, you know, that, that is the truth, and He lives within us, and you accept that, then things are good. And, and I, and I am guilty of, of- Of being in rooms like this because a part of me, the human side of me, the, the part of me that's still maybe a little doubtful, is concerned about the, the state of man and the state of things, right? away from Christ in, in the things of Caesar, which we're talking about here tonight. And yeah, you know, on, on, 'cause I am concerned for my, for my family, my, my neighbors, my fellow Americans, and Iranians, and, and- My, my Jewish brothers and sisters too, and I, and believe it or not, I am actually very concerned for them, and I, I hate to see a world where we get to a place where there's so much,↗

2:04:30Speaker 12disdain toward a group of people because we didn't do what was necessary to have the safeguards and have the, the checks and balances to, to do thing, to do things in, in a way that are, Of more of a human nature, right? More like Christ, and even if you're not a believer of Christ, more of just natural law, which is what living with, with, in a humane way with, with each other, and which we've, we've not been acting that way, for quite some time. And, and yes, we are a very powerful country. Filled with people, very talented people, despite of what many say, I think, I, I believe that the, the, some of the brightest, sharpest people in the United, they live here in the United States, and it's not given a chance to succeed because of, because of other powers.↗

2:05:23Speaker 12but what am I getting at? I'm getting at, yes, there is a problem here, and, and it is born out of greed. It's born out of, subjugation because a, a certain, our, our government has been bought and paid for. So it's, it's ser-- it's a serious matter, and it's not gonna be easy, you said it yourself, and it's gonna take some time. And I, I think it's, it's not gonna happen overnight. And I don't, I don't know that the, the, the,↗

2:05:53Speaker 12the right spirit in the United States exists to really take on that battle yet. until things get to, into a certain level, and then, and what my fear is, when it gets to that, and then there could be hysteria, there could be, you know, there could be Weimar Republic type of crap that we don't want, you know, we don't want, we don't wanna go there. We don't, we don't want the American psyche to get so↗

2:06:21Speaker 12So, you know, dejected and so humiliated and so absolutely disgusted that they start resorting to really stupid shit, right? So, i-it is, it is a, a very sensitive discourse we gotta tread carefully, but it's, it's gotta be a grassroots thing, it's got to be, we have to elect people that aren't compromised, that are, that, that have the true,↗

2:06:48Speaker 12let, let me↗

2:06:48Speaker 11interject for a second here, just because you're talking all pro- Process and no principle. What is the principle you would argue we should stand on?↗

2:06:58Speaker 12Well, in the, the topic of this conversation was no tyranny, right? Or fighting tyranny, whatever. radical tyranny with, the principle is, you know, let's, let's, this, this-- the principle is this, this country was founded on Christian principles. Let's start acting like it. Why don't we start there?↗

2:07:18Speaker 11Alright, so I 100% agree with you. And, and at the beginning of this chat, what I suggested was we need-- and, and I, and I understand your point about spirit, the spirit of America as a good and moral people, was it Reagan's old quote, "The, the city on the hill," which really is a paraphrase of, you know, the, the, the biblical quote about a light can't be hidden, is that we need sunlight in DC. We need to say, "Everyone needs to be examined. Everyone needs to Now, not because we want anything violent, but to say our government as is doesn't represent us. They are compromised a hundred different ways, we all know it. Some of them we might like, some of them we don't like. But the, this idea that, you know, we all have, what I said earlier, essentially a national strike to say that we aren't going to participate in this anymore is a way of having a peaceful revolution. You could think of it like Gandhi in India or Black Velasa in, in, in- Poland, however you'd like, there's different options you can look at it. But I, I agree with you that, you know, I, I am not interested in persecuting groups↗