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- 0:00Hollywood's Dark Side UnveiledDirector Baron Von Grimm shares his shocking experiences in the entertainment industry.
- 10:19Early Career at Disney and ABCBaron recounts his start in Hollywood, working at major studios and witnessing early corporate shifts.
- 16:39Disney's Golden Age and CultureDiscussion on Michael Eisner's era, the animation renaissance, and the changing workplace culture.
- 25:38Behind the Scenes DebaucheryBaron reveals widespread infidelity and sexual harassment among Hollywood executives and staff.
- 34:06Substance Abuse and Social PressuresThe prevalence of drug use and the pressure to conform within the Hollywood social scene are explored.
- 40:43The Producer's Role and Hidden AgendasBaron explains the complexities of film production and uncovers the secretive forces behind financing.
- 53:56Encountering the Gay MafiaBaron describes meeting financiers with unsettling demeanors and learning about a 'gay mafia' in Hollywood.
- 1:05:21Hollywood's LGBTQ+ DynamicsInsights into the industry's evolving attitudes towards the LGBTQ+ community, from casual acceptance to open mockery.
- 1:13:22Selling Your Soul for StardomThe moral compromises actors and industry professionals make to achieve fame are discussed.
- 1:31:30The Darkest InvitationBaron recounts a chilling encounter where he was invited to a party involving underage individuals.
- 1:48:45Subliminal Messaging and PropagandaDiscussion on how perversion and political agendas are subtly woven into children's programming and media.
- 2:02:50Weaponizing Media for PoliticsBaron reveals how news outlets were instructed to avoid negative stories about Obama, highlighting media manipulation.
- 2:13:20Hollywood's Conservative UndergroundBaron shares an invitation to a secret conservative organization in Hollywood, revealing a hidden political divide.
- 2:21:40Hollywood's Rituals and SatanismThe conversation delves into the possibility of satanic rituals and anti-Christian sentiment driving Hollywood's elite.
- 2:38:20The Inhumanity of the EliteBaron describes an unsettling encounter with financiers, characterizing their presence as 'inhuman' and 'creepy'.
- 2:55:00Hollywood's Hedonism and Fake CultureJoanne and Baron discuss the normalization of extreme behavior and the pervasive inauthenticity in Hollywood.
- 3:03:20The Acting Grind and AI's ImpactAJ and Baron discuss the challenges of acting, the industry's shift away from traditional paths, and the rise of AI.
- 3:20:00Hollywood as Money LaunderingGodfrey presents a theory that Hollywood is primarily a money-laundering operation, not a legitimate business.
- 3:36:40The End of Celebrity WorshipDiscussion on the decline of celebrity culture and the need to end the idolization of flawed public figures.
- 3:53:20Exposing the Shadow GovernmentCasey shares her personal story of being trafficked and links Hollywood elites to a broader shadow government agenda.
- 4:01:40The Truth Will PrevailIan delivers a powerful closing statement on fighting evil with truth and building a better future.
The Transcript
Ian MalcolmWell, all right, everybody, excited for another space. And Joanne, you want to kind of kick us off with a couple ground rules here while we wait for the Baron? And then I'll fire up kind of the introduction here.
@joann_marieYes, thank you so much, Ian. It's amazing that you're hosting your spaces almost every day now. I'm so happy and so excited. Everyone, please repost this space and follow Ian. We don't have speakers. But yeah, please repost it. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost that. And yeah, I think Ian is going to do an introduction with Baron Von Grimm.
@joann_marieI've never heard of him, so I'm really excited to know him. And I lived in Hollywood for a while, so I want to know his experiences as well. I saw some crazy stuff, nothing illegal, but weird stuff. And yeah, Hollywood is insane. But yeah, no, I'm just excited. And after that, I think Q&A, I guess. I don't know. So thank you everyone for being here.
@joann_marieAnd yeah, please repost it and we'll be right with you.
Ian MalcolmYeah, absolutely. And going to learn about the insides of the entertainment industry, in particular that of film and cinema out in, as Joanne called it, Hollyweird. We'll be learning about the land of fruits and nuts, I once heard it referred to. And so we'll be hearing kind of the behind the scenes or behind the curtains telling of what actually goes on and what this individual who's worked both behind and in front of the camera, what he's seen.
Ian Malcolmand has been around some very exclusive individuals. So we're going to probably not name too many direct names because we always want to be careful with what we do and don't say. Don't want to slander or slur or libel anybody in any capacity. Merely want to talk the truth about what's going on out in the entertainment industry, perhaps some of the nefarious aspects.
Ian MalcolmAnd to get this inside glimpse into how it seems as though things that are either vile or evil, perhaps anti-Christian, anti-nuclear family, that those things are being lifted up while obviously those that are sending good positive messages are perhaps being brought down. And I think if we look around at the entertainment that surrounds us left, right, and center, we see the exact same pattern.
Ian Malcolmat every turn. And so excited to have this individual pop in here, was just messaging with him. So I'm sure he's just a moment or two away. And if I'm not mistaken, this might be his first space speaking. And so kind of curious to learn about him, to get that behind the scenes, look into everything, and then obviously also to open things up for a Q&A.
Ian MalcolmAnd I just want to mention that this is the second of what's going to be a series of essentially interviews or spaces that are being hosted specifically to give opportunities to those that might have smaller voices on these platforms. In particular, those that perhaps are going to cover either things in the past, the present, or perhaps the future that relate to that subject that I tend to focus a lot on.
Ian MalcolmAnd I just say that because if anybody has a piece of content or a discussion that they would like to hold, I would welcome those. My DMs are always open and I am always here for any suggestions. So feel free to send those over. And with that being said, it looks like we've got the Baron in here. So we'll bring him up.
Ian MalcolmAnd Baron, if I'm not mistaken, is this your first space ever or just the first space that perhaps you've been featured on and going to speak at length in?
Speaker 1Both.
Ian MalcolmWell, all right. All right. So a rookie to both of those. And so what I'll actually do, I'll invite... Tom up here if he wants to take that co-host spot, just because I know it can be a little bit overwhelming to manage both the speaker panel as well as to kind of speak through the talk tracks. And so I want to make sure that we don't overwhelm you in that regard.
Ian MalcolmAnd I'm really honored to have both Joanne and Tom here with us. And what we'll be doing is to get a essentially interview style, let's say foray into yourself, Baron. And what we'll do is get a little bit of who you are what we're going to be covering. And then, of course, to unpack that conversation, we'll probably go for something between about maybe 45 and 90 minutes.
Ian MalcolmAnd at the end, I'm sure there's going to be lots of questions, lots of individuals that are curious to ask you all about Holly Weird, as Joanne was just calling it. So I think we're probably going to have some special guests come through, perhaps able to integrate them into the conversation here. But without further ado, Mr. Barron, it would be lovely if you could...
Ian Malcolmwithout doxing yourself or sharing any information that is kind of above and beyond what you feel comfortable sharing. But if you could give a little bit of a background on yourself, again, only to dox as much as you feel comfortable with, but so that we know a little bit about who you are, what you've done, and then we'll get into your thoughts on Hollywood and all the rest of the entertainment industry as you understand it.
Speaker 2Sure. You hear me all right?
Ian MalcolmWe sure can.
Speaker 2Okay. Yeah, so I moved to Hollywood in 98. I was previously in Florida, lived in Florida, from Ohio, but I lived in Florida. From my teens into my 20s, I was a musician. So I recorded an album when I was like 17, and it was really into the music. And then kind of in my mid-20s, I had an idea, a bug, to go out to Hollywood and get into writing and directing.
Speaker 2So I moved out. And probably about early 99, I was already, you know, I got a job initially at Disney in television production. So that's where I started there. And then so simultaneously that I was working on just independent film. So right off the bat, I got, you know, a film project underway that I, you know, financed and, you know, wrote, directed and, you know, had a buddy produce it with me.
Speaker 2So we did that within my first year and I was working at Disney, which eventually we bought ABC. So I eventually went to go work for ABC.
Speaker 2So that was my start in Hollywood.
Ian MalcolmWow. And just right off the bat, I'm kind of curious because so far named Disney and ABC, which are not exactly small programs, right, or brands. These are massive empires. And in the case of Disney, has certainly become much more so over the last, let's say, 25 years. It's probably a very different place now than it was back then with all the acquisitions they've done under Bob Iger.
Ian MalcolmI'd be curious if you wouldn't mind sharing a little bit about, again, not the role or responsibility, because I don't want you to overshare, but if you wouldn't mind giving us an idea, what was the culture like in the Magic Kingdom of Disney, working inside that empire and then transitioning over to ABC, which... if I'm not mistaken, is owned, of course, by Disney.
Ian MalcolmI'd be curious what the vibe, quote-unquote, was, because it feels like it might be very different today.
Speaker 2It was very different. I mean, you know, people always like to bitch about where they work, so, you know, you'd have employees calling it Mauschwitz or whatever like that, which was whatever. It was, you know, I had just moved there, so everything's new, and, you know, and back then, we're talking, you know... late 90s, early 2000s, you know, Hollywood still had that, you know, nice sheen on it.
Speaker 2You know, we don't, didn't know, you know, what we know now. So it was just, you know, it was really cool. You know, I, you know, I remember driving in on my first day on the Disney lot and this guy who looked just like Steve Jobs walked in front of my car. And I'm like, that guy looks like Steve Jobs. And it was Steve Jobs, you know?
Speaker 2So there was just, you know, that, but, you know, working there was fun. You know, I worked right on the Disney lot there in Burbank. And then eventually when they bought ABC and the culture really changed because like, you know, the guy I worked for, he was an old school Hollywood guy, you know, been working in it for a while.
Speaker 2And when they bought ABC, they kind of bring in a lot of the corporate. It was very loose when I started working there. My boss would show up to work at, you know, 11 a.m. and he's wearing tank tops and a short and shorts, you know, so that was working in Hollywood. It wasn't, you know. like a bank or very corporate-like, at least not where I was working.
Speaker 2And then ABC, we bought ABC, but ABC basically took over all of TV, and then it was very, very corporate.
Ian MalcolmAnd who at that time, during that acquisition, who was running Disney, if you don't perhaps remember?
Speaker 2Yeah, Disney at the time was, what's the guy's name? He was running it since the 80s, Eisner.
Ian MalcolmUnderstand, yeah. And if I'm not mistaken, that was through what a lot of people refer to kind of as the golden age of animation, right? I'm trying to roughly position this, but you're talking some of the premier kind of pieces of entertainment, whether it was Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King, right?
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah, he came over from Paramount in the 80s. So he came from Paramount to Disney. And then, you know, he had Katzenberg. So they were, yeah, that was all the Lion King when, you know, in the 90s when they really brought their animation back. And then, of course, Katzenberg left to form DreamWorks with Spielberg.
Speaker 2So that was my time. And there was, you know, still some like, you know, Roy Disney was still there, which was like, you know, Walt's nephew. So you'd see him at the lot. But he was more of just kind of like a figurehead character. exec that they'd keep around. But you'd still see kind of that old, you know, that old school Hollywood, which was really cool.
Speaker 2You know, guys like that around.
Ian MalcolmAnd it's funny just because some of the names mentioned there, lots of cats and birds and other things of that nature. In contrast, perhaps, you know, it's right.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's kind of funny because and again, I didn't bring it up, but. When I started working there, my boss, who became a really, really good close friend of mine, you know, he was Jewish, but I didn't know anything about that. I grew up in Ohio, you know, Catholic family. My family's Croatian. So that was kind of our, you know, we didn't know anything.
Speaker 2So I had actually somebody point out to me that, oh, well, you don't know he's Jewish. I'm like, well, how would I know? He's like, well, his name. And, you know, he started, you know, that. He was telling me how, oh, Jews were in Hollywood. But that was, you know, this was a Jewish guy I worked with telling me that. I didn't know anything about it.
Speaker 2So it was just like, oh, yeah, that's a Jewish name. That's a Jewish name. That's a Jewish name. But, you know, that was neither here nor there for me.
Ian MalcolmAnd that's just like a casual conversation back in the 90s, you're saying?
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. That was just a co-worker of mine who was actually the brother of an actor from a 70s show that, you know. I grew up watching and I worked with his younger brother and he was Jewish, you know, but he was just and, you know, we were friends. We'd have lunch and all that. And it was just casual conversation stuff that he brought up to me.
Speaker 2But again, I didn't know anything about that or. OK, you know, I don't I couldn't tell by anybody's name what they were because I like, you know, I didn't know any Jewish people growing up, so I didn't know any names.
Ian MalcolmNo, and it's also one of those things where most individuals, and ironically, we could go back to an Austrian painter who wrote kind of a similar thing in essentially his memoirs saying that growing up thought of everybody as essentially the same. And I think there's probably a lot of people listening right now that can recall back.
Ian MalcolmAnd these are things that nobody paid any attention to. And I'm not saying that as if they should have because they were nefarious, but it's rather just perhaps a... a stranglehold that existed on the entertainment industry since its inception that most people are just kind of ignorant to. And again, not saying that that's a bad thing or these people are wrong or evil or anything like that, but it is this control mechanism that most people are simply oblivious to because they never really think much about and perhaps with good reason up until perhaps a certain point with some of the trends in the media.
Ian MalcolmBut if we're going back to the 90s and Disney, some of those other studios that you mentioned, I think it's probably safe to say a lot of the programming that was being put out at that point was rather wholesome, and a lot of the projects that you were working on were probably rather innocent. Is that fair?
Speaker 2Yeah. As you see it now, I worked in TV, but I didn't watch any of our shows. I didn't watch anything that we produced. I never really cared much for network television or anything like that, so I wasn't really paying attention to what we were putting out.
Ian MalcolmUnderstood. And just for curiosity, at this point in Disney and at ABC, you're working behind the camera, in front of a camera, on the set with a camera, on the scripts of things that are filmed by the camera. What type of involvement were you typically involved in? And perhaps did you also see?
Speaker 2I was just in the offices. I would help set up the shows when like a show would be. Going into production, I helped facilitate things that the show would need to get set up. Shows at that time, this was 99, so I remember shows like Alias, which was J.J. Abrams' Freaks and Geeks. I'm just trying to remember some of the other shows at the time.
Speaker 2But I just get them set up with certain things to get into production. But I really didn't care to spend much time on those sets or anything like that. So that was just a thing I never really, you know, spent much time. You know, I worked also or even with all like the late night shows, because, you know, when I was working for ABC, you know, we had like the Kimmel late night show.
Speaker 2And I can go to any of those shows that I wanted to. But, you know, I think I'd only would go if there was a band that I was interested in that they were playing, you know. like Van Halen was on Kimmel or something like that, I'd go to that.
Ian MalcolmOh, wow. So in addition to working with, you were also able to enjoy and kind of participate in the culture. I'd be curious because, you know, Jimmy Kimmel, you're now talking post, I guess, the big stars of Leno and that era. So in Kimmel, what was kind of the, I guess, culture that you saw from those individuals? You know, was everything, you mentioned Van Halen, was everything pretty much...
Ian Malcolmabove board and, and most of what you saw seemed pretty innocent and positive, or were there some cracks that you were starting to notice in, in your journey in Hollywood?
Speaker 2Um, you know, nothing out of the ordinary. I mean, I, I, you know, with like Kimmel, I worked with, um, I worked with, uh, Adam Corollas, now it's his ex-wife, um, and another friend, they were all like best friends with, you know, uh, Kimmel's wife at the time. And, know everybody was cheating on everybody jimmy was you know i think at the time with uh what's that sarah silverman i think he was cheating with her the wife his wife was cheating with like our 19 year old intern you know so it was more or less just your you know i mean standard you know say standard but there was a lot of that you know there were you know executives who you know when you say sexually harassed i mean they were really sexually harassing you know
Speaker 2you know, young assistants or, you know, some of the guys who were married were sleeping with their male assistants. So that kind of stuff was fairly, you know, common.
Ian MalcolmAnd just to, yeah, to avoid, you know, any hot water, let's perhaps try to keep with some of the names that are, and I say this. you know, anything that I suppose would be publicly available. And I assume probably some of the things that you're just discussing there certainly would be, but, um, you know, we can make loose references to want to just make sure to protect, uh, yourself and, and all those other things.
Ian MalcolmCause I know Hollywood can be very legally happy, uh, or trigger happy, I should say. Um, but, but so you're, you're describing, uh, perhaps the, the set, the programming being, uh, somewhat positive, I suppose, in its messaging, although you mentioned Adam Carolla, I think he and Kimmel at the time, uh, I don't know if that was around the era of The Man Show, which was on Comedy Central.
Ian MalcolmBut for those that might not remember, the thing that was their big laugh as kind of an intermission before commercial breaks was girls in bikinis on trampolines. And so not exactly the most wholesome or family friendly of content. But you're saying that the people involved in those programs are just sleeping with everybody, proverbially.
Ian MalcolmAnd it just sounds like debauchery, certainly off camera, it sounds like.
Speaker 2I mean, I think that's, yeah, I mean, again, I was in my 20s. I didn't think anything of it, right? I mean, it's just, you know, people do what they do. I don't pay any attention to it. You know, they weren't my friends. So I wasn't, you know, getting into anybody's business, whatever they were doing. I was just doing my thing.
Ian MalcolmNo, but it is kind of curious because talking about the over-representation, let's say, of certain last names or perhaps subcultures, but to hear that the people at the highest level and most prominent, figures, whether it's those of perhaps ownership or those that are running the, the shows that they're doing all this, uh, debaucherous stuff, um, not, not just infidelity, but, but homosexual infidelity, lots, lots of very curious things that perhaps goes back to the land of fruits and nuts, uh, nickname that I'd heard once upon a time.
Speaker 2And it didn't, it didn't have to be high level. I mean, you know, one of the guys who was, you know, what a senior VP of my department, you know, he got caught with, uh, you know, some other married girl in his office, you know, by the cleaning people. So, you know, I think it's just, you know, their character.
Ian MalcolmWow. Yeah. And it is, I mean, look, the reality is a lot of these things, it's, you know, you have to judge individuals as well as cultures and perhaps groups of people based on the fruits. that they bring, right? It's far easier to do that than just to look at the roots of the tree or genetics or things of that nature.
Ian MalcolmBut it sounds like the culture was just kind of rampant hedonism, which I think a lot of people would probably expect just from the outside looking in, but to hear firsthand that that was not only something you saw, but just something that was so routine that it sounds like it was just expected. It was just the norm of the culture out there.
Ian MalcolmIs that a fair presentation of it?
Speaker 2Yeah. I mean, they weren't going to be doing drug tests on anybody, you know. Otherwise, you have to get rid of all their talent and executives. But, you know, that's it's you know, it's just what what some of these guys were doing, you know, cheating on their wives or whatnot. And, you know, there was, you know, obviously you're in Hollywood.
Speaker 2So there's you know, there's a lot of, you know, gay men. Not not shocking. you know, that there's a lot of that going on.
Ian MalcolmYeah, no, absolutely. And I guess along those lines, when you talked about substances, I'm kind of curious, not necessarily if people were specifically doing them, right? Name this person that was doing this drug or something like that, but rather I'd be curious about the culture around that type of substance abuse, right?
Ian MalcolmIs, was it not only commonplace, but essentially celebrated or was it something that people were primarily doing? you know, within the confines of closed doors and trying to keep out of, you know, other people's awareness?
Speaker 2You know, a lot of what I, I kept a, you know, I had a certain group of friends and, you know, people I worked with and most of them were not from there. You know, we're all from somewhere else and came there to work, you know, work in Hollywood, get successful. So we didn't have, you know, I didn't do drugs. My friends didn't do drugs.
Speaker 2I really didn't drink. So I wasn't in that circle. So anything was just kind of peripheral. Like, you know, I'd be in an event and I'd see an actor that was completely bombed, you know, or they'd be bombed at work, you know, stuff like that, you know, at a, you know, event or something like that where they would just be.
Speaker 2So I just see it in that way. But nobody that, you know, that wasn't in my circle. I didn't do any of that stuff. I didn't associate with people that did any of that kind of stuff. You know, so I some of that stuff was just really at a distance. You just kind of, you know, come across it here and there. Yeah. But, you know, it was there, you know.
Speaker 2Yeah, of course. But I just I avoided it completely.
Ian MalcolmNo. And that's the thing. And I'd be curious if it was so the ability to avoid it. I'm just curious if you found yourself ever feeling like obviously there's social pressures, right? People today, they go off to college and. the expectation is that they're just going to become essentially binge drinkers, right? And I suppose people are considered out of place if they don't participate in that.
Ian MalcolmI'm kind of curious what the culture that you saw was. Did you ever feel like that was something that was pushed on you or encouraged or were, again, people, you know, maybe they were participating in it, but everybody was free to do their own thing?
Speaker 2At the level I was at that point, nothing was pushed on me. You know, I think and we'll get into this later that, you know, once you kind of start to ascend in your career, that's when other things start to be presented to you or, you know, opened up to you. And like I said, up to that point, that was none of that was in my life or did I associate with anybody like that?
Speaker 2I didn't work, you know, you know, when I was making making my films, you know, you didn't want to work with anybody like that. So. And I try to know who, you know, most of my crew were or anything like that. So it wasn't pushed on me. And, you know, as we'll get to later, you know, once I got a, you know, a sense of where things were or how they were, I didn't want any part of it.
Ian MalcolmWow. Yeah. And got out. And on that note, I'm kind of curious. So there you are, you know, a relatively. you know, an individual that let's just say is trying to pursue a passion and doing so in a righteous fashion. And you're surrounded by this kind of ecosystem of Hollywood. And as you kind of move throughout from Disney to ABC and then kind of continue into your career here, you start to notice some of those other kind of aspects.
Ian MalcolmI'm curious, are those hidden because of, let's say, access in terms of prestige or in terms of dollars or, you know, what is kind of the thing that was keeping some of that from you as you were kind of climbing that rank? And at what point did you, I suppose, break through to the point that you were aware of what was going on maybe behind the curtain?
Speaker 2Oh, I think anybody can get involved with that. That's they choose. You know, I wasn't there to, you know, sell my soul. I wasn't like I said, I didn't do drugs. I didn't even smoke marijuana. So. You know, nobody I knew was, you know, doing drugs or anything like that. It just wasn't anywhere anywhere part of my life.
Speaker 2So but I'm sure anybody off the street, you know, right off the bus can get involved into anything that they want out there. It's you know, it's it's Los Angeles. That's everything that you want is out there if you want it. And if you search for it and who you associate with. And that's just wasn't anything, you know, I wasn't even, you know, familiar with that world at that time.
Speaker 2And a lot of the darker aspects that kind of, you know, showed his head later on. Because I basically went from, I spent about six years at Disney, ABC. And I did, you know, I made my first, did a short film in 99. And then in 2001, I started working on another film.
Speaker 2And this one, uh, you know, each thing is just a little bit of stepping stone. So this film, um, went and played, I think I, we shot it in 2001. It may have come out in 2002, um, early or something like that. I can't remember the dates, but, um, so it came out in 2002, played film festivals. Um, then you start getting, you know, I got started getting calls from, from big agents, you know, so it was like, Oh, okay.
Speaker 2Things are, You know, things are moving, moving along. And I'm still working at that time at ABC. So you get calls from agents. They want to see what you're doing next. We saw your film. We want to see what you're doing next. OK, so I started working on a next project. And that's when I got a friend of mine who I had known.
Speaker 2I'd worked with her in Arizona years before. And her and her husband had moved out to L.A., I think, after me. You know, she had been working at Sony and she was directing a film and she wanted me because of, you know, I just come off working on this other film that had done fairly well. And she wanted me to produce it, help her produce it.
Ian MalcolmAnd could you could you share for people not as familiar with the industry, kind of the role of that, you know, of that position, someone that's a producer? I feel like it's thrown around kind of haphazardly oftentimes by the general public. I'd be curious what your take on it is, having seen kind of behind the scenes.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well, between television and film are two different beasts. So let's start with executive producer. The executive producer of a film, different from TV. The TV exec producer, basically, they run the show. They hire the writers. They're in charge of the scripts. You know, they know everything that's going on. How are the directors, everything.
Speaker 2And your movie executive producer might not have anything to do with it. They may have just, you know, gotten you financing, you know, or got some money, you know, to you or met you with people and they'll throw their name on it. That's why, you know, Harvey Weinstein's name was on every single movie because he just had something to do with it.
Speaker 2They throw their name on it. Producers, very different. Producers are very, very hands on. Usually producer. is the person that will come up with the, you know, he'll find the script, hire the director. It's not always the case, but in my case, I was brought on because there was already a couple other producers. I was brought in for one specific thing, which was non-creative, which was kind of...
Speaker 2The opposite of what I was, I was the creative side of things, but it was a friend of mine. She asked me to do her a favor. She saw I was able to produce films. Can you help me produce mine? Sure. So the producers, well, again, you're doing all the dirty work. You've got to hire everybody. You've got to find the money.
Speaker 2You've got to budget the money. You're doing budgets. You've got to hire catering. You've got to do this. You've got to get everything set up for your shooting one day. Um, you know, so people have different, you know, um, tasks that they handled, but you're pretty much just, you know, you're producing, you're, it's literally that you're producing the entire event.
Speaker 2You know, you got to shoot, you got this, that you're, you're taking care of everything.
Ian MalcolmYou're almost like a general manager of a restaurant where you're overseeing every aspect. Uh, and then you have the, I suppose the executive producer, which would be more like the owner of a restaurant who. finds some money, finances the thing, and then maybe puts it in the hand of the person that oversees everything.
Ian MalcolmIs that right?
Speaker 2Well, so we had several producers who were just doing, like you said, yes, you're the general manager. You're the general. Well, the director, they run this show. It's their show. You're doing all the stuff that they don't need to worry about, right? The director should just be worried about... you know, the actors, what they're going to be shooting, you know, things like that.
Speaker 2You've got set people, you've got costume people, you've got, you know, music, you've got, so, you know, I'd be meeting with, you know, music supervisors to discuss what kind of, you know, licensing music, you know, hey, we want to use this music in these scenes. So I would go, you know, find out what that's going to cost.
Speaker 2You know, we want to rent a band for this thing. We want to do, you know, so you just basically are doing, you know, everything. And we're, this is, again, keep in mind, This is all independent at this point. There's no studios involved in this. We're just going out trying to get, you know, funding here and there. And eventually we do.
Speaker 2Eventually we get a big, big name. Don't want me to say the name. I won't say the name, but he he produced a lot of big movies. He he was known for working with the director. Who's. Again, at the time, none of this was known, but. You know, in the years since it's come out that, you know, this director who these guys were BFFs, they went back to before they were making movies.
Speaker 2You know, they were it came out that he was, you know, little boys, young boys at their parties. You know, they would throw, you know, parties. I think they're like Fire Island or something. It's called. They would just have lots of these. Parties with young boys, pool parties and stuff like that. This stuff come out years later.
Speaker 2I didn't know it then, but this was the guy that came on as executive producer.
Ian MalcolmAnd he's a huge, huge name in Hollywood at the time and probably a household name when it comes to the entertainment industry. Is that fair?
Speaker 2I wouldn't say he's a household name. You know his movies. You know his movies. He's attached to a lot of huge franchises. And his... his buddy was a director of many of these movies. So it probably wouldn't be too hard to figure out which director got in trouble.
Ian MalcolmWe'll lay some clues along the way. And I know when you were messaging me about that, I couldn't, I mean, I could believe just because of the news that's come out, but just to hear somebody that was so intimately connected to these people, it was just wild to come across. So I don't mean to... kind of interrupt your train of thought here.
Ian MalcolmBut so you got now connected to this very big name in the industry that, again, lots of people listening to this space will be very familiar with the franchises that they launched. And so what was their involvement and kind of your relationship with that individual at this point?
Speaker 2So they really don't do much, like I said. The executive producers, they'll get their name put on because... you know, they introduce you to somebody to get you financing or, you know, their name attached to it will add prestige to it. So it opens doors and they want, you know, they want their name on something for, you know, whatever reason they decide they want to.
Speaker 2And he wanted his name on our project. So, you know, he opened up doors. So we, you know, started meeting with, you know, actual money people. And that's when things started getting, just for me,
Speaker 2you know, just very strange in terms of, you know, um, most of actually all, all the producers on the movie were gay, uh, except for me.
Ian MalcolmUm, so, you know, and how many, how many of those, and I'm curious for the over-representations that I always focused on, is that of, that's of two people, that's of five people, that's of six people, you know, how, how many aside from yourself here?
Speaker 2Three of them.
Ian Malcolmthree of the producers were 75% of the producers just happened to be. Okay. Wow. Yes.
Speaker 2So, and again, you work in Hollywood, it's no big deal. Now I, I wasn't a liberal. I've never been a liberal, but I didn't know anybody that wasn't a liberal, like everybody, they were all, you know, bleeding hearts. It's what they all were, but it's, again, you're working there. That's what it is. And, you know, You don't I'm in my 20s.
Speaker 2You don't talk politics. Nobody cares about that at that point. You know, at that time, it's not like it is today. Everybody does what they do. They, you know, vote for they vote. Nobody nobody cared.
Ian MalcolmThat's a really interesting point. I'd be curious for your thoughts on this and the experience, because if we're going back roughly, let's let's say around the turn of the century, it's still the day and age pre. Like, it's hard for people today that are maybe of a younger demographic to think through, but this is pre-Facebook.
Ian MalcolmThis is pre-social media. This is pre-digital news even, right? So this is a day and age where I would assume things like religion, politics, and sexuality are kind of just off the table, things that, you know, most people aren't necessarily injecting into their everyday conversation over coffee. And so these are probably things, again, like you being unaware of the...
Ian Malcolmstrange, let's say, coincidence of all these last names that we were talking about earlier. These are probably things that are just kind of, you know, behind, I don't want to say behind closed doors, but are maybe a little bit more closeted, whether it's the politics or the sexuality or some of these other things.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was just, it wasn't a big deal. Well, it wasn't a big deal unless you were, of course, conservative. But I didn't know any. I did not know any other conservatives. I never, you know, didn't really, you know, they didn't know what to make of me because I didn't, I hated Democrats as much as I hated Republicans.
Speaker 2You know, George Bush was president at the time. I was against the war, you know, so, but I was kind of, you know, this is, you know, people didn't know who Alex Jones was then. There was none of that. They just kind of, they didn't know what to make of me. because I was against their side, but I was also against the other side.
Speaker 2And that was their only way of thinking was binary, that there's only those two sides that exist. And I would be like, well, no, not actually. You know, they're kind of similar. I mean, I would, and it was great because I was able to have at that time, even up, you know, leading up to the Obama's election, a couple of years later, we'll get to that in a bit, because there was some interesting stuff going on at that time where I was working.
Speaker 2I would kind of just point out to them, hey, I support this guy. I'm like, well, are you against the war? They hate Bush. He's Hitler. He was Hitler then. People don't remember. Trump wasn't the only Hitler. He was Hitler. The next guy is Hitler. The next Republican person is going to be Hitler. That was just the way it was.
Speaker 2But again, I would just point out like, well, hey, how does your guy vote? Let's look at your guy's voting record. Well, he voted for all the things that you say you're against, you know, but they could they can converse with me because I wasn't a Republican. And that's just the binary that they that they looked at. So there was just plenty of that.
Speaker 2But in terms of, you know, funny, you're saying how people were, how different it was. I remember being with the crew of this movie and again, liberals, hardcore liberals, bleeding heart liberals. And I remember them all laughing at a tranny that we saw. We were walking into someplace, I forget where, and there was some kind of dress and they were all laughing at them.
Speaker 2And I see some of the same people today on Twitter, of course, are huge proponents of the trans cult and all that. But they were laughing about it back then.
Ian MalcolmWell, and that's actually a really curious piece because you're talking about how three-fourths of the people working in the producer role were gay out in Hollywood. That was, you know, just kind of par for the course, I suppose. But I'd be curious what the atmosphere was like in the kind of Hollywood scene when it comes to the LGBT community, because it's very curious that there was perhaps this expectation that there was a lot of homosexuals in...
Ian MalcolmHollywood, but at the same time, they're making fun of the trans community. So I'd be kind of curious, you know, for the the dynamic of the day back then when you were there, because if I'm not mistaken, that might be around the time of or I guess a little bit after perhaps the movie like Philadelphia, which was one of the very early mainstream films that essentially and it seems like this is always the approach, right, is to not not be ashamed, but rather to guilt people into tolerance on a certain issue.
Ian Malcolmthen they normalize the issue, then they propagandize and celebrate the issue, right? And it seems like that's been what has been done with these various pieces of kind of the gay community, then the trans community, and then Lord only knows what will come next. But I'd be curious, what was the expectation in that world that you were in at that time when it comes to these individuals that were gay, like these other producers?
Ian MalcolmIt was something they were keeping kind of close to the vest or they were a little bit more flamboyant with. You know, I'd just be kind of curious, given the comment you made there on the reaction to the trans person.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think the whole trans thing, that was just, you know, at that point, you know, you'd see a guy in a dress, you'd laugh at him. I mean, naturally, you know, he looked silly, you know. You still there? Yep, sure. Okay, sorry. Heard that sound. You know, so that's not something you'd see often, right? Hollywood was its own kind of insulated bubble that was different from the rest of the world where, you know, it was, you know, like I said, you work with plenty of gay guys here or there.
Speaker 2It was no big deal. That was just Hollywood. It was the culture. You know, I remember I think it was when I was working at Disney, you know, they were one of the first ones to start offering health care benefits to. you know, the, you know, some guy's gay boyfriend, right. His boyfriend. And, you know, I remember, you know, other, other execs or people being pissed off because, Hey, like, Hey, I got a girlfriend I've been with for five years.
Speaker 2She can't get, you know, benefits, but you've had a boyfriend for six months and you got, you know, so there was, you know, there was that, but, uh, otherwise it was just, you know, it was normal. Um, people, you know, I think, you know, while they may be open, but, you know, certain, you know, like actors, obviously, there were still guys who were, you know, in the closet.
Speaker 2You know, I... And that was the thing. You kind of find out, you know, like... this guy's gay, that guy's gay, this guy's gay. And it's just like, at one point I just said, I'm just going to assume every person is gay unless I'm told otherwise.
Ian MalcolmWas it behind the curtain? Was it that behind the closet, if that makes sense? Was it really that common for these big superstars in Hollywood of the era?
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, I could talk about one. I don't think it's going to be any outing here. He's been discussed before, but this was back in 98. My cousin was working as an extra on a movie. It's a John Travolta movie. And so he was telling me back then, he goes, oh, John Travolta's got a boyfriend. John Travolta's gay. I'm like, what?
Speaker 2John Travolta? He's like, oh, yeah. He goes, when his wife isn't at the set, his boyfriend shows up at the set. When the wife shows up, the boyfriend leaves. You know, and then obviously, you know, many years later, all those stories came out about him and, you know, pictures of him and his boyfriend and stuff like that.
Ian MalcolmSo I don't think that's definitely public information. And I'll never forget the story, allegedly. And I don't know if this was proven in court or whatnot, but I think it was a masseuse by some fancy resort at a pool. And. Travolta maybe got a little handsy and the masseuse ran out and supposedly Travolta chased after him in the nude around the pool at a resort with like dozens of people watching, which things you don't anticipate to see on a random Tuesday afternoon or whatnot.
Speaker 2Yeah. I heard a few of those stories too. And they came out, but like I said, I had heard about that back in the nineties and it was just at that point, it was like, what John Travolta, you know, they're like, well, he's singing and dancing. So, That's what I try to tell most people. I'm like, they're actors. I mean, let's give him credit.
Ian MalcolmHe was a hell of a dancer in Saturday Night Fever. A lot of charisma, but it did have to be rather shocking, right? It's probably the case with a lot of these big-name superstars, as surprising as it might be to many.
Speaker 2Yeah, now it's no big deal. Obviously, they do it. They come out as non-binary, which means nothing, right? Just to get... you know, a headline somewhere. Nobody cares. Nobody cares anymore. If you're gay, it's no big deal. Back then it was, it was a bigger deal, you know, if somebody came out or if they were outed or, you know, those kinds of things, especially, especially a guy whose career is built on being a leading man, you know, whether it's, you know, and I don't know anything about him per se, but like, you know, Tom Cruise or stuff like that.
Speaker 2So it's always rumors, but you know, you hear just a lot about this guy, that guy. So there was plenty of that. So plenty of people keep things, you know, still to this day in the closet from that time.
Ian MalcolmIs there a leading man that you're like that guy? Absolutely not. He's completely straight as can be in a good sense, whether it's machismo or masculinity that that you think that's that's the guy even to this day that you'd put your hat on as being like the what do I want to call the straightest of the arrows, I suppose.
Speaker 2Well, you know what? I mean, I can I can say what I think, but you really don't know what people do to get a part, to get a role, to get, you know, you have no idea. So I don't know. I mean, I've heard stories of some of the straightest men who had to do something to get that next thing, you know. So it's again, it's, you know, how much of yourself are you willing to sell to to achieve, you know, fame or, you know, stardom and all that?
Speaker 2Um, so, but I would never say for certain, cause I, you just don't know. You just don't know. So I, nothing surprises me anymore.
Ian MalcolmNo. And that's actually probably what you just said is perhaps where this starts to take this darker term, right? Because I mean, if, if John Travolta has his sexual proclivities, you know, let him do him as long as he's not hurting other people is always kind of the perspective that I take on those issues. I can certainly, I can condemn them in my mind or in my spirit, but
Ian Malcolmyou know, people will be people where it, of course, gets into a very dark place is when people are being coerced. And of course, that's the entire story here with Weinstein and some of these other individuals and perhaps these these pool parties from this individual that there you are on set with working with one of the biggest people in Hollywood at that time is producing, again, not to give anything away, but some of the biggest franchises in cinema history at that time.
Ian MalcolmAnd there's this whole dark nature that you're unaware of at the time, in spite of working rather in close proximity. So I'm kind of curious when you're saying, you know, these actors that are, I suppose, selling their souls. I'm curious what that force is that is buying them, if that makes sense. Is it the executive producers?
Ian MalcolmIt's the people above them. It's the ones that you're surrounded by. But what was some of your experiences there as you're working on this film?
Speaker 2My my friend who is directing and and I think this is just the basics of it. This is this is just where it starts. It's who are you as a person? And maybe I didn't know her as well as I thought her because I watched her change who I thought she was, you know, as we were making this movie. You know, we had been friends for years.
Speaker 2I was close with her and her husband. We're all very close. We both lived in we worked together in Arizona when I lived there. And then I just watched her, you know, little by little, just, you know, becoming, she was very mean to the crew.
Speaker 2You know, I mean, just, she was just doing things and the way she talked to people, like, again, it just, you saw this slight escalation of where, you know, she was just, you know, I don't care who you are, director or janitor, they treat everybody with the same respect. And I watched her, treating people below her, like literally that one point she, she took a finger to somebody's forehead to push them away, get away from me.
Speaker 2And I had a pull. I, you know, I pulled her aside. Everybody was afraid of her. So they would always come to me and say, she said this, or she did this. And I'd have to pull her off the side and say, you know, you're trying to like, Hey, humble her. Like what the, what the fuck are you doing? You know, you don't, you don't treat people like this.
Ian MalcolmAnd this is the lady lady for the film, or she's a smaller part in the film or no.
Speaker 2No, no, no.
Ian MalcolmShe's the director. Oh, the director. Okay.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah. So my French female, she was directing it. And there was another thing, too. Again, it's just like, who are you? She was of Latina descent. I am not. I'm Croatian. But my mother was born in a Latin country. But she's not Latin. She just happened to be born in a Latin country. And she wanted me to basically falsely claim...
Speaker 2that Latino heritage for, you know, you know, for those Hollywood points. Like, hey, if you start claiming this, well, you know, they've got, you know, because they, you know, they want to have all that diversity. They want to have a diverse this or that. And I was like, well, why would I say that if I'm not, you know, you know, you'll get perks, you'll get this, we'll get this right up, we'll get that.
Speaker 2And I was just like, yeah, no, I'm not going to do that. So it's just those kind of things with her, watching her kind of change throughout it, which was just, you know, the more, you know, the more financing we got, the more, you know, we got bigger names. Now we've got, you know, we had a lot of big name actors that were part of it.
Speaker 2So, you know, just watching her change throughout that whole thing to the point where by the time the movie was done, I mean, I worked, it was only supposed to be, I was supposed to be working on my next film. You know, I had finished one. They were like, hey, we want to see your next thing. Great. I stopped to do this for her.
Speaker 2What should have been maybe maybe a year ended up taking two years of my life. And that's when I just once it was done filming, you know, they then they were going to take it to, you know, festivals and sell it. But I was done after that. I told her I would fulfilled my deal of, you know, helping produce the film. And once it was done, I was out and we haven't spoken since.
Speaker 2You know, she left her she left her husband at the end of filming because she was having an affair with like the 20 year old film editor on the movie. So, again, it was just character stuff like that where, you know, she was spending money that she shouldn't have been spending, you know, that we were getting from investors for this or that.
Speaker 2And it was being spent on other stuff. So it's just, again, a lot of that. I didn't like it. didn't like what it was doing to her seeing how she was changing but maybe that's who she always was right i'm you know so um but once once on that movie once we started meeting with some of the the financiers and this is where things started like i said getting a little weird for me um because i'm now involved with people that i've you know never been involved with or been around and they're you know i remember going to you know we'd have dinner meetings usually with these people at you know some whatever
Speaker 2foo foo place and sunset Boulevard or something. And I remember specifically this one time there, you know, we're all, all the producers sitting around the table and then the, the money guys are there and they just creep me the hell out. They, I can't explain it. Right. You're just, you're there. You got to just, just this weird, weird feeling about these guys.
Speaker 2I don't even think they spoke. They just, they, they had a, let me see there. They looked foreign. They just looked like, I don't know what, But, you know, they were just dressed up in these very, very expensive, you know, suits. And they just they just really creep me out. I don't know what else to explain it. But they were and this is this, like I mentioned before, Disney.
Speaker 2But now one of the producers, one of the gay producers told me about the gay mafia of Hollywood, the gay mafia that runs Hollywood. So this is now I'm hearing something from. You know, the gay guys I'm working with about the gay mafia, which is where these financiers came from. They're all part of that, whatever that is.
Speaker 2But they're the ones telling me about it. And so we're meeting with, you know, now we're meeting with these money people. And for me, it's just. I think they creep me out.
Speaker 2So, you know, that's going on.
Ian MalcolmAnd just out of curiosity, does it so happen that some of those financiers in the strange suits that were part of the gay mafia might have also been part of a different mafia we tend to talk about in Hollywood?
Speaker 2They may have. They, you know, they definitely had, you know, the one guy specifically had a, I want to say like a Middle Eastern look to him, you know, be a dark curly hair, kind of, you know, nose and stuff like that. He, you know, he just had like a, I couldn't explain it. I'm trying to visualize it. But they didn't really even speak.
Speaker 2And they just had this weird look on their face while everybody was talking and stuff like that.
Ian MalcolmAnd those are the shadow figures behind the money that's pouring into whatever the product was that you were putting together. And so in this case, the executive producer that is basically the financier for the project, he goes out and finds the funding. And what you're saying is... the funding that's behind the name that people would see as the executive producer, it's not coming out necessarily of his pocket.
Ian MalcolmThere might be some kind of, let's just say nefarious or unseen group that's sitting behind in the shadows. That's actually giving the money up front for the production. Is that right?
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. He wasn't putting any money up. He was getting the money. He put his name to it. So his name was going to draw, you know, people to it. So then he starts setting up the meetings and we got to go out and start, you know, like I said, once we got him on board, you know, things escalate. You start, you know, you're going up a notch.
Speaker 2Now you're not just some, you know, whoever producing a movie. It's, you know, you've got some other names attached to it. So that changes the, you know, the game a bit.
Speaker 2And then that's, and that's the next story is where things get really weird.
Ian MalcolmAnd this is, so you've now disconnected from the woman that you were working with. And if I heard that correctly, She was going down what seemed like a rather dark path, maybe spiritually or morally, spending lots of money, cheating on her husband, doing all these other things. I'm curious if in doing those more, let's just loosely call them evil things, was her career benefiting from that and vice versa?
Ian MalcolmWere you, by taking maybe a more moral stance, were you getting either ostracized or a little bit of friction put on the professional trajectory that you were on that up until this point was really thriving?
Speaker 2Um, well, so I don't really, I didn't follow her career afterwards and, you know, um, and we'll get to where my career went after this. Cause I, you know, I kind of made a decision. Um, but I, I'd actually quit the film at one point. Um, and this was even before all these people got involved, um, because of the, uh, as they call them, improprieties with the financing.
Speaker 2We'd basically get funding. Hey, we got an investor who was giving us X amount of money, and the money was for this, to accomplish this set of goals. We want to shoot all this, and that's what he gave us the money for. And then I saw that most of the money was gone before we'd shot anything, before we'd shot a single thing.
Speaker 2And it was, oh, I bought an iPod, or I bought this, or I bought, we went out, you know, they would have their production meetings. We're always at, you know, expensive restaurants. It's like, you don't have to have production meetings every week at expensive restaurants. And why did you buy an iPod to research music for the movie?
Speaker 2That, again, is bullshit. It's calling them out. So I'd quit because I thought it was extremely unethical. And they all came to my place and begged me to come in. That's why we need you to keep us on track. Keep us honest. We're sorry. We're sorry. Okay. So I came back and finished it. Um, but the real interesting thing that happened while I was working on this movie and, and again, it's, it's, it's a different thing now to look back at it now versus then.
Speaker 2Cause this wasn't, you know, I wasn't aware of any of these things, but you know, I had been to some, some strange parties before that I'd been invited to. Um, and this was all, you know, I, I'd been to, I don't even remember how I got this invite, but it was at some mansion in the Valley. the San Fernando Valley, and it was just open sex everywhere.
Speaker 2There was just, you know, it was a mansion, so there was plenty of rooms. They had a movie screening room, pool, jacuzzis, and they were just people. They were all adults, all adults, but still it was just like, holy shit. You know, like, this is wild. Never seen anything like this. What's, okay, all right. So, you know, I'd been to, seen a couple of those kind of things.
Speaker 2Um, but, uh, I'd went out with the, uh, the editor, um, from the movie and he, and he and I were basically the only straight guys, uh, in the production. Um, so, you know, we went out one night, um, I forget where it is, some bar in Hollywood or something like that. And, um, we ran into, and I can't remember if the guy was meeting him there or if we just ran into him there, but we ran into somebody that he knew.
Speaker 2um i thought about this more years later it was something more but and you know we're just talking you know three guys having a few drinks you know telling stories like i said we're telling about some of the crazy you know things we've seen i'm telling them about like some of those parties i've seen where you know there was just all kinds of uh you know debauchery going on and stuff like that and and so this is this is in 2003 yeah so so uh my buddy
Speaker 2or the editor, he, he excuses himself and goes off to the bathroom. And that's when the other guy kind of slides in next to me and kind of leads into me and starts, you know, telling me about some, some other party that I might be interested in. I'm like, okay. You know, he starts telling me about these and the way he described it was, you know, Beverly Hills mansion and it's in Beverly Hills mansion.
Speaker 2I said, oh, okay. That's all. Yeah. We got that. We have some crazy parties out there. And, All right. And he's like, well, when we have, you know, we have girls on the younger side. You know, and I'm like, well, what do you mean? And, you know, 18, 19, what are you talking about? And he goes about 12 to 12, 13, 14. And.
Speaker 2You know, I was just like, I didn't know what to think. My brain was on fire trying to process what he's telling me, because at this point, you know, it's easy to look, you know, now everybody knows, you know, the kind of stuff that goes on. I had never heard of Epstein at this time or anything like that. I didn't know that this stuff went on.
Speaker 2And, you know, you're just trying to keep a straight face, poker face, as this guy is telling you this. I'm like, okay. Okay. You know, and, you know, that was kind of it. I don't remember anything past that.
Ian MalcolmIs he, at this point, is... Is he saying this with a straight face as if I'm saying, hey, we're going to go rob a bank? Do you know what I mean? Or is he concerned or coded with his rhetoric here? This is crazy.
Speaker 2No, no, no. He was not. Like I said, we were talking, like, again, I'm introduced to him from his friend. Now, years later, I would go back and think about all of this. Like, what was, you know, was I being, did he take me to meet this guy? Because like I said, you start, you start going up the chain. So he's meeting me.
Speaker 2I'm a producer of a movie now, you know, and it's got real people attached to it. So I'm, you know, going up that ladder. So I don't know if it was just a chance meeting with some guy who knew. And we were just talking, you know, talking about, you know, Hollywood parties. I can't remember what that guy did. I cannot remember if he was a producer or if he was something I don't remember at all.
Speaker 2You know, so. And you go back and you think about it. But at the time, I didn't know any of this. I did not know that world existed. Didn't know anything about it. Didn't know, you know, who do you even tell? Who do you even go talk to about that? You know, there's no there's no social media. There's no I don't even think YouTube was a thing then.
Speaker 2There's no there's nothing to even converse with about it. I don't think I even told anybody for years. But we were just, you know, guys talking like guys, you know, open like guys. talking about some of the stuff we've seen some of the parties we've been to. So, you know, and I've, I've always just had that kind of, um, I don't know, people have always been really open with me.
Speaker 2Just, I guess I'm just kind of in a nonjudgmental kind of way. Um, or I don't know what it is, but they're usually fairly open with me, but you know, no, he, he was leaning in and he was telling me about, you know, some parties, you know, that had young kids and, and, and a Beverly Hills mansion, you know, that's what I remember.
Speaker 2You know, I can't remember how many, you know, whatever else was said, because once you say that to me, my brain, like I said, is just, you know, on fire trying to process what the hell this guy just said to me. Well, while trying to maintain, you know, a stoic poker face, you know, oh, OK, sure. Interesting. Yeah. You know, you know, again, I don't remember my specific reaction, but it was something along.
Speaker 2It's like, oh. you know, trying to put that together.
Ian MalcolmAnd it wasn't some silly or really bad-tasting joke. He was sincere with the suggestion he was making.
Speaker 2I was 100% sincere, absolutely. You know, so again, years later, you know, when, you know, especially the stuff about Epstein and, you know, obviously all that Hollywood stuff came out, you know, I went back to think about it and say, was this, you know, done... Was I being brought to meet this guy for a reason or did we just run into him by accident and this all came up?
Speaker 2I don't know. I didn't really hang out with the editor, but we were working on the project together. We were the only straight guys. So we hung out. I don't know that he knew anything about it because the guy waited until he left. And I don't know if that was a setup like, hey, when I leave, ask him about this. I don't know.
Speaker 2I just know that it happened. And it was, you know... definitely, you know, one of the things that kind of put a real, real sour, sour taste in my mouth, um, for Hollywood, you know, long alongside just the other, you know, moral and spiritual rot that's there, you know, like, so that you see, you saw, you know, I saw a friend of mine kind of lose herself through that process.
Speaker 2And then, you know, this kind of comes up the same time and you just, as I'm going up the chain, I'm just, you're meeting weird, you know, creepy people. Uh, and they're all, you know, everybody's phony. I mean, they're that, That doesn't need to be said. Everybody's, you know, phony. But like I said, my core group of friends, we're all, you know, we're still friends to this day.
Speaker 2We're still all close. We weren't from there. We weren't part of that world. We were just trying to, you know, we were trying to achieve something in that world. And some of us have. Some of us left, you know. We've all had different, you know, levels of it.
Speaker 2But, yeah, that kind of put a real, real bad taste in my mouth.
Ian MalcolmAnd was that bad taste? Do you think your, let's say, disinterest in such a grotesque suggestion by this person, do you think that perhaps stunted that relationship? Or do you feel like they were trying to bring you into something and that was essentially like an initiation to see if your, you know, let's say your heart is less pure.
Ian MalcolmAnd I don't even know how to describe that type of predilection. It's just, aside from grotesque and evil. But what do you think that was about? Was it was it merely some kind of suggestion from a psychopath or was that perhaps some kind of initiation into something more nefarious in Hollywood, you think?
Speaker 2Like I said, I, you know, in the years since I thought about it, you know, was that the case? Wasn't it the case? Was it just happenstance? And I don't know. You know, it could have been either one, you know, thinking about it now. And definitely I thought that that it was, you know, a setup. Knowing what they do now to get people to, whether, you know, whether just to have dirt on you, whether it's just to, you know, see if you're in their club.
Speaker 2I don't know. Because I never, you know, I never went that far. I never went, you know, involved. And I didn't care. So I never saw that guy again. Once I was done with the movie, I was done with that movie and all those people. didn't care. I didn't, you know, when they went to, you know, Sundance and all those, you know, park city festivals to try to sell the movie, which they did, they sold it to Sony.
Speaker 2Um, I had no part of it. You know, I didn't want anything to do with them, the movie or anything like that at that point, once we were done filming, you know? Um, so I didn't care. I, and I pretty much, it really soured me, um, on filmmaking in Hollywood altogether. Um, with the exception of another project I wrote the next year, that was really the last thing that I did.
Speaker 2I just, you know, the whole thing just, you know, I was kind of done. You know, I was still working because the following year, 2005, I went to go work for NBC Universal. So I was still working in television. But the film world, as I was trying to get into, yeah, I was done. had no taste for it anymore.
Ian MalcolmUnderstandably. And it unfortunately seems like in retrospect, these things, and, you know, you were talking about Disney and, of course, Nickelodeon. I can't remember the individual's name, but the showrunner who was at the top of most of those is actually a documentary, ironically. Rob. Sorry. Dan Schneider.
Speaker 3Oh, Dan. Sorry, yeah.
Ian MalcolmDan Gilbert. Yeah, there's a... Is it Dan Gilbert? Yeah, some guy over as part of Nickelodeon who was doing all kinds of terrible things with multiple actors and actresses. A documentary of all places on Netflix about it.
Speaker 2Well, there's a few of them. I don't know if you're talking about Dan Schneider.
Ian MalcolmAh, that's it.
@g0dfr0yYeah. Sorry, yeah, Dan Schneider. I don't know why I said Gilbert.
Ian MalcolmAnd also part of that little click, what a weird pattern we're noticing here. Shouldn't make light of such. And that's the creepiest part about it is, and as part of that documentary, I remember they go back and they look at not just the interviews with the victims, but also some of the very unusually provocative positions that they put some of the kids into with things...
Ian MalcolmYou know, flying into their faces that are very symbolic of other things. I mean, it just seems like they're lacing a lot of the perversion subtly into into the filming of these things, either for their own sick pleasure to throw it in the face of everybody else. But I certainly seems like you're not alone in the experience that you perhaps had while you were out there.
Speaker 2No. And the thing was, is that back then, you know, we were all innocent, too. So, you know, being we being the viewers. Right. We didn't see that stuff and think of some sexual fetish with a child. Only somebody that had that pervasion might see that, right? But that kind of stuff, they would slip a lot of that stuff in, and your average viewer doesn't notice it, that, oh, they're focusing on some kid's feet or whatever weirdness, whatever fetish that they were into.
Speaker 2I wouldn't catch that. Now you can go back and look at those things and go, oh, my God, it's right there in your face. You know, we've kind of, you know, come a long way in recent years into, you know, seeing the kind of things that they were, you know, putting into those stories, you know. And I, you know, I was definitely seeing a lot of the stuff that they were putting in at that time.
Speaker 2You know, whether it was, you know, you know, the, you know, sexualizing kids or, you know, anti-gun, anti, you know, anti-American stuff, you know, that all that, you know, kind of stuff. you know, cause I had, I had, you know, I'd bought a ranch in Arizona when I, when I left Hollywood in 2010. And, you know, everybody was like, oh, you're buying a compound and you're going to be a, you know, that's, they had all those buzzwords from all their shows.
Speaker 2You're a, you know, a compound, you know, what do they call it? Militia, all those buzzwords from all the shows. So that kind of enters the American lexicon from all the shows. And I was watching them put them all in there and seeing like, oh, that's where this stuff comes from. I'm like, well, I just bought a ranch, you know, cause I, I want to live, you know, raise some animals and stuff like that.
Speaker 2So, but the way that people talked about it was in a perverse way. So I, you know, I saw an experience that firsthand from the people I worked with, you know?
Speaker 4I mean, I remember in the nineties, mid nineties, Ian and Baron, I remember slowing down. I was a teenager at the time hearing that in the Lion King. cartoon you could slow down the part where he jumps in a patch of leaves and if you put it in slow motion the word sex appears on top so they would do subliminal stuff like that even in the cartoons yeah and like the poster for the little mermaid where there's a giant phallus as one of the the castle towers right and it was always just dismissed with the oh that was just a pissed off
Speaker 2uh, animator, or that was just an animator doing that. You kind of have to go through a lot of, uh, you know, checks and balances to get to a finished product that, you know, especially animation, you know? So it's like, really, that was just an accidental thing that somebody just slipped in sex in there. So, you know, you, you decide, but you know, it's, it was definitely, they were definitely putting that stuff in there.
Ian MalcolmAnd, and, and lacing it like, uh, Daniel was mentioning to, uh, products, let's say, designed for children. It's just so sick. And it's one of the things that I often think about, and Bear, I'm not sure if you've looked into this. There's probably an entire field that's perhaps able to look at these things in a scientific lens is maybe the right way to think about it.
Ian MalcolmBut the idea of programming that is built into these products, right? We think of kids... entertainment and it should be designed to give them some kind of morality or proper messaging. I think if you go back to a lot of the 90s programming, whether it was those of white families like Full House or those of black families like the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, right, that the shows tended to have some kind of cathartic moral moment at the end.
Ian MalcolmAnd I'm sure most people listening can appreciate the little jingles that they even put at the end of those. programs that were designed to signal, hey, this is the takeaway, right? This is the moral at the end of this story. Whereas today, a lot of that, of course, is gone. And while there might have been some of these more subliminal pieces in the past that you guys are talking about, I wouldn't be surprised if it's much more overt today, whether it's through, you know, perhaps the messaging.
Ian MalcolmAnd I know that Disney even these days has cartoons with LGBT. characters designed for kids that are maybe three to six years old, but perhaps even other more nefarious things that are laced into the materials in ways that are even spliced in, maybe perhaps so fast that it's sending subliminal messages to these kids that are obviously very impressionable.
Speaker 2Well, you can go back to Pinocchio, right, from the 40s. And, you know, there's that now famous scene, if you go watch it, where they're talking about, you know, taking all the little boys to Pleasure Island. And, you know, when they when they come back from Pleasure Island, they don't come back boys, you know. You know, so that that kind of weird stuff, which, again, back then, would you think anything about it?
Speaker 2What you know now, it goes, that's really, really weird. You know, I think it's the Fox characters, you know, when they kidnap all the kids there in Pinocchio. So that stuff's been there for a while. You know, Disney then, though, in the 90s was obviously very different from Disney today. Um, and we, I got there kind of at the tail end of, you know, kind of TV as you knew it.
Speaker 2And I don't know how old you were, but you know, we had movies of the week, you know, I don't know if everybody remembers that, you know, every week on ABC, you'd have a movie of the week and it was something for the family or, you know, whatever. Um, and I watched as, uh, reality television just took over, you know? So I was there for all that, watching all those, you know, cause I was there for, I
Speaker 2on all those shows, you know, Survivor, all the America's Got Talent or The Voice and all that. In 2005, I went to go work at NBC, NBC Universal. So, you know, I got to see the complete change in TV and the programming and what they were doing.
Speaker 2And, you know, and they start slowly pushing all this stuff. Now, I didn't have kids, so I didn't watch kids' movies. But, you know, I remember, you know, 20-some years ago, you know, my friend who did have kids talking about, some of the things that they were starting to slip into some of those kids shows, you know, cause usually parents just put them on, let their kids watch, walk away, whatever.
Speaker 2And he saw some of this stuff, you know, when they were putting in, you know, LGBT characters starting to do those things, um, back then. So it was just, uh, you know, slow, slow, you know, evolved to where it was, you know, I remember around 2010, it was like, all of a sudden we started adding in the, the gay character, you know, every show had that gay character, um,
Speaker 2which then, you know, morphed into, you know, the trans characters and just, you know, just step-by-step, you know, goes from one thing to another.
Ian MalcolmExactly. It's the normalizing. And the example I always point to is, look, there's lots of things that we could critique about entertainment of the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, the 2000s. But you look today and, I mean, you could actually go back a decade or more to something like Modern Family. And what is the name of that show?
Ian Malcolmpresume well that it's presenting the modern interpretation of the family and every one of the pieces of those families, it was either the older man who was remarried to the young Latino woman. It was the gay couple. It was the family that adopted a kid, right? Like every piece of it is, it's the inverse of the nuclear family presented as the modern family.
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah. So again, I watched it all, you know, little by little, all kind of, you know, changing that. Like I said, I didn't watch any of our shows. So I didn't always know what was in the shows because I just didn't watch them. But yeah, they were doing all those kinds of things. And then at ABC is where I learned some other things.
Speaker 2Again, inside baseball kind of stuff that outside people wouldn't know. During the election or during the campaign when Obama was running for president in 2008,
Speaker 2You know, it came down from the head of news down to all the news departments that there was to be no negative news stories about Obama. And that floored me when I heard that. It's like, what? You know, so that was stuff that was happening behind the scenes. And they can do those kind of things back then. We had town halls where at that time we were owned by GE.
Speaker 2weapons manufacturers and whatnot. Um, and you know, the, the CEO, I think it was Jeff and melt. I'm not sure if that's his name or that might be the bass player from Pearl jam. Um, but, uh, you know, he would have town halls and I had a TV in my office. So I would just, you know, watch a closed circuit TV, uh, of the event.
Speaker 2Um, and I remember him talking, you know, just all kinds of globalist, you know, stuff, uh, during that election, like, you know, And I remember just I couldn't believe what I was hearing him say. I was just sitting there writing notes as fast as I could. You know, he was just talking about, you know, you're going to see this huge transfer of wealth.
Speaker 2We're all Democrats now. You know, just just junk like that, garbage like that. But they had no, you know, worries about leaks and stuff like that. It's not like today. You know, there wasn't, you know, wasn't really social media then or anything like that or anywhere to. you know, kind of go talk about that. So I would just be like, you know, you know, I was just taking notes and, you know, would talk to people I work with or friends and stuff like that.
Speaker 2And I was really politically outspoken then. Very, very outspoken. And like I said, they didn't know what to make of me, but they didn't shun me away because I didn't I didn't I didn't like Republicans. So I was OK. But, you know.
Speaker 2Yeah, it was just those kind of weird things.
Ian MalcolmBut you're suggesting the weaponizing there of essentially the media for the political purposes, obviously, of the pro-Obama regime, right?
Speaker 2Oh, it was 100 percent. That's what I was, you know, saying. And it was being pushed on, you know, obviously was being pushed through their product as well. But I was seeing it, you know, spoken directly, you know. Like I said, when I heard no negative news stories about Obama, I was floored. You know, again, we're it's a different time.
Speaker 2You know, I was, you know, obviously more more awake at that time of what was going on, but not, you know, it's still a learning curve. You know, I was still being I was still being surprised by things. Now, nothing would surprise me back then. It was like, what the hell? You know, did he really just say that? You know, so there was there was a lot of that stuff going on.
Speaker 2Um, so again, I just, it was seeing some of that kind of stuff from the, from the inside that, you know, people outside wouldn't really know or hear about.
Ian MalcolmAnd, and out of curiosity, were you the only one that found that kind of comment unusual or off-putting?
Speaker 2Uh, yeah, I remember, uh, a bunch of, uh, you know, most of my office had, had went to, you know, to the auditorium where they were doing it. Um, I didn't care. Uh, I stayed in my office. So when they came back, You know, I remember I remember, you know, a couple of guys were all just like so excited. I'm like, what are you talking about?
Speaker 2And I started going through some of the stuff he said. And I remember the one guy says, well, he's a he's a CEO. So he knows he knows this stuff. I don't know this stuff. You don't know anything about economics. You know, I'm like, what? They were just gladly, you know, slurping it down.
Speaker 2So they didn't think anything, you know, was off about that.
Ian MalcolmTotally normal. Terrifyingly Orwellian, right? Lining up like ants marching, as they might say.
Speaker 2Yeah. Again, I was alarmed by it, but no, nobody else was. I mean, you know, I had people outside that I talked to, but inside I was, I did not know a single, single, you know, conservative, you know, right-leading person. I did not know. So that leads to this thing. Like I said, I was outspoken. I would talk to people all the time.
Speaker 2And they were always very open to talking to me because, like I said, I got along well with everybody. I was anti-war, which was funny because as soon as Obama was elected, all the people on the left who were anti-war were gone. Gone. I was all of a sudden alone. All these people who were so against the war were silent.
Speaker 2You know, so I saw that. And now all the stuff that they pretended to care about before, now that Obama was elected, you know, so what? You know, they didn't complain about, you know, always, you know, and I told them, you know, I remember a lot of people I would, I told them, I said, this is what's going to happen when he gets elected.
Speaker 2So you're against the war. He's against the war. Well, when he gets elected, he's going to now escalate the war. It's going to get bigger, which is what happened. You know, so a few people, There's plenty of cognitive dissonance. There were some people who did go, hey, yeah, that's kind of weird. But eventually they still just go with their crowd.
Speaker 2So I got approached one day. There was a photographer. He would shoot. We'd hire for some of our shows. he was a guy that I, the only guy that I ever talked with that, you know, felt the same way as me about things, you know? Um, and he pulls me like one day into like a, a room, you know, all very hush hush. And he, he says that there's a, he starts telling me about this kind of secret, uh, conservative organization in Hollywood.
Speaker 5Um,
Speaker 2That gets together that he's a part of and they get together, they have, you know, meetings and stuff like this and blah, blah, blah. These are just like, you know, conservative type people who work in Hollywood. And at the time. I, I didn't trust anything or anyone. Definitely not groups or clubs or anything like that.
Speaker 2I, you know, I don't join things like that, but but he was he was trying to invite me into. their you know to go to their meetings they were and they were called the the friends of abe um and i you know kind of declined uh like i said i just you know i i even knew at the time that any organization was infiltrated by whatever so i just didn't want to you know i didn't know what anything was i didn't trust anything so i was like man i'm not interested and then i found out years later that that organization was started by um
Speaker 2organization, whatever club was formed by Gary Sinise. And I think that the guy who was the guy that was the CEO of a daily wire.
Speaker 3I don't know. He's not, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2No, it's Jeremy boring. Jeremy. Yeah. Jeremy. All those guys. Yeah. All the daily. Yeah. He was, he was one of the guys that started it. I find this out years later, but you know, Gary sneeze. Jeremy Boring. I'm sure Shapiro was part of it and all those guys. But so, yeah, I found out about it later because I met actually I know other people that were involved in it, you know, and it's all, you know, musicians, all from different walks of life and in entertainment.
Speaker 2But, you know, they these were just guys who, you know, saw what was going on, where the country was headed. And, you know, obviously in the entertainment business and, you know, those guys, you know, they had to be quiet about.
Speaker 6know what their beliefs were and stuff like that so um but that was uh that was interesting yeah i'd like to ask you a question baron if you don't mind about something that's tied into what you were just touching on and the question is what's the sort of guiding culture behind the cult that runs hollywood because you know you see all these strange parties where they'll do like mock i don't know if you call it a sacrifice but where they're having a model late in uh
Speaker 2in chocolate or something like that so are these people at the top satanists i mean if you have any idea it'd be interesting to know you know i don't have any more of an idea of that than you do but it's you know it's kind of obvious i mean you know some of these things they do just to shock just for the sake of doing it right so you know it's it's all about putting down christianity at every turn right that's that's just obvious you know i'll
Speaker 2I'll, you know, we'll watch, you know, I'll watch TV or a movie with my brother and I'll, you know, you know, once you notice these things, you know, once you, once, you know, back then, once I knew what the news was, that it was all lies, it was all, you know, bullshit, then you, or TV, it's all programming. Once you see through the programming, then, you know, anytime I watch something, it's like, oh, they're pushing anti-gun stuff.
Speaker 2They're pushing, you know, you see, you know, you see it in all the programming. Your average person just watches a show. They watch a movie. They don't realize they're getting bombarded. Literally, that stuff is made to push whatever agenda they're trying to push. So, you know, that was that was clear to me what was going on.
Speaker 2I could see it. I was there. And, you know, I wasn't even a Christian. You know, I said I was raised Catholic, but I wasn't at that time religious at all. But I could see it. You know, I could see the anti-Christian stuff that they're pushing. you know, even as somebody that didn't, you know, wasn't part of it, you know, you could still see it.
Speaker 2Um, but to your average person, they just, you know, I, I would show them, I'm like, look what they're doing, you know, and some people could see it, you know, but I'll, I'll point out to my brother, we're watching, like, we, we started watching this show called, uh, Preacher. I don't know if you've ever heard of this show called Preacher.
Speaker 2It's based off of a comic book. Um, and it was produced by Seth Rogen and, you know, a couple other people, but, So the show is basically this preacher who's looking for God. Like he's actually, God had come to earth and he's looking for God. He's trying to find him. And he finds Jesus. And Jesus is a little mongoloid retarded inbred.
Speaker 2Like literally just an inbred retard. That was Jesus. And God was a fetishist who dressed like a dog and you would pay for him to do stuff to you. And I point out to my brother, I go, try to imagine them doing this to any other religion. They take your, you know, they took Jesus and made him an inbred retard. Now try to imagine any other religion doing this.
Speaker 2It only happens in Christianity. You only see it that way. And whether you, again, whether you're part of it, you know, believer or not, You got to see you could see it, you know, and it was like, oh, and you can open up people's eyes like that when you point out, you know, obvious stuff like that. I said you would never see that for any other religious figure or anything like that.
Speaker 2I mean, you know, they even draw Allah and they're going to go bomb you. Right. But you can do whatever you want. Goof on Christians, denigrate them as much as you want. So, you know, you see all that.
Speaker 6Yeah, thanks. I mean, that's really telling when you think about the fact that they go to that extreme, to that extent, to make fun of Jesus Christ. There's no question that the guiding logic behind that comes from people that have a tremendous amount of hatred for Christianity. And there's no doubt that it's not just Satanists.
Speaker 6We're dealing with a lot of Jewish influence behind the scenes in Hollywood. But what I wanted to ask you is, when it comes to these unusual parties that they host and hold, I heard some celebrities talking about the fact that there were celebrities... to the celebrities in other words that there was this class of individuals that operate behind the scenes that the celebrities are aware of that we're not aware of as members of the public at least most of us but some of these individuals are people that the celebrities themselves idolize or look up to in a similar way to the sort of fanaticism that you see in members of the public when their favorite celebrity or idol or whatever shows up and they behave like they don't know how to
Speaker 6react to another human being because they don't react to them as if they're a human being they react to them as if they're a deity as they've been trained to do so by modern entertainment but who are these people i mean have you ever heard about this and and what are they like some of the people that run around with marina abramovich and some of the people in that sort of clique are these the people that the top celebrities look up to as a sort of king makers that have the ability to make a celebrity go from being a c-lister or a nobody to an a-lister
Speaker 6or do you have no real understanding of that particular issue?
Speaker 2Yeah. I mean, you, you can, you know, you can just look at some of that stuff, you know, take all the information that you have, you know, and, you know, kind of draw your own conclusions. You might not know the specifics behind things, right? Like why they do this or why they do that or who's doing, you know, you might not know what dots are connected, but you can definitely look at it and go, this is not normal.
Speaker 2This is very strange. Or it's beyond strange. Like, you know, Um, like, like I would point out to people, like, let's just talk about Bohemian Grove, right? We all know what Bohemian Grove is.
Speaker 1Yes, sir.
Speaker 2It was that it's, yeah. So it's, it's, it's that place up in Northern California where for God knows how long the richest, most powerful people in the world, you know, go there every year and they worship an owl and perform all these truant, you know, rituals and stuff like that. Now, You know, I would tell my brother because my my my brother until recently was an atheist.
Speaker 2And I would say, well, you might not believe in this stuff, but they do. So I would question, like, what do they know? You know, why? Why are the you know, why are rich people? You know, if you saw regular people dressing like that, you would think they were weird, right? Like cosplaying or whatever. Like, that's just some nerds who dress up for, you know, whatever stupid stuff.
Speaker 2But when you see the richest, most powerful people in the world, you know. burning bodies in effigy, worshipping an owl, that sort of ritualistic stuff, which, again, at the time you didn't know what ritualistic was. You didn't know how pervasive it was, but you kind of look at it now and go, yeah, that's weird. Normal people don't do that, but the rich and powerful do.
Speaker 2So there's definitely something. I don't know what they know. All these whatever Luciferian things, whatever you want to call it, it's not good. You know, so I don't know, you know, what what they're praying to, what they're doing, what you know, you know, obviously you guys have done all the research. So you have a better understanding of, you know, those types of what they get out of it.
Speaker 2But, you know, you're definitely selling yourself to get to that next level. Nobody gets to that level, I don't think, you know, without, you know, doing some things. That's crazy.
Speaker 4I think you sort of described those types of people when you were talking about those dark suit characters that gave you the creeps that you didn't know who they were. That's the type of feeling I got when you shared that story.
Speaker 2Yeah, I've never felt that feeling like I had with those types of people when I was meeting them. I had never felt that before being around other people. You know, you get weird out there, but you get vibes off of people. But, yeah, it was like I said. But the best thing I say is it felt inhuman.
Speaker 6Cole, let me ask you a question really quickly. I'm sorry to hug the mic. I don't want to do that for too long. I know Truth Teller and Joanne want to chime in, and we'll go to them next. But could you try to describe the sensation you felt? I've felt it on one occasion. I think I know exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 6It was something that you could try as hard as you could, regardless of how good a vocabulary. how eloquent a speaker you might be to try to depict it in a way that would allow other people to understand what you witnessed or lived through, and it would be completely impossible if you picked up on the same thing that I once lived through.
Speaker 6But is there a way you could try to maybe attempt to describe what sensation you felt? Because I'm very curious to hear if it's even remotely similar to what I felt years ago, because if it was that, it's linked to something that probably has to do with a lot of the occult stuff that's going on.
Speaker 2Yeah. I mean, it was, you know, 20 some years ago. So, you know, hard to, you know, I don't got it. Yeah. Specifics of the meeting. I could I just picture the guy and he was dressed when I say expensive suit. The thing that came to my mind was Euro trash. Like it was like it was the kind of suit that you would wear if you were going to a nightclub.
Speaker 2Right. It wasn't a shirt and tie. You had a jacket on with like maybe like a V-neck shirt underneath or something like that. Maybe some gold chains.
Speaker 2you know that, and his face just almost had like, you know that Homelander meme where he's just kind of looking kind of disgusted?
Speaker 6No, brother, I'd be lying to you if I said that I did. I'm not familiar with it. I'll look it up right now.
Speaker 2It's that meme from that show, The Boys, whatever, that blonde superhero. He's just kind of slightly disgusted look on his face. That was his face the entire time. He just, you know, kind of just had this slight grimace on his face like,
Speaker 4you know, like... Well, Baron, you described it as not human. That was the most realistic description I think you gave, that you said you felt as if whatever they were, it wasn't human. That's crazy.
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah, that's, again, the vibe. It wasn't like I was sitting next to a human being that I would... You know... whatever energy that you, you get off of somebody that you can converse with them. You're talking to them. You know, I, like I said, I'm a personal person. I don't care who you are. You're the waitress. You're the, the, the restaurant owner.
Speaker 2I don't care. We can all, you know, treat everybody equally. And you just, it just got nothing. There was nothing positive from him. It was just bad energy. That's, you know, it was just bad energy. And I, I, Inhuman was what had stuck in my mind as a descriptor of that evening, that meeting.
Speaker 6This is going to sound kind of crazy, but did it ever occur to you in that moment that you might be dealing with, let's say, an entity that's the opposite of what a lot of us call God, obviously, through that individual? Does that sum it up somewhat? No.
Speaker 2Not at all. Okay. At the time, I was an atheist at that time. So that kind of, I'm not anymore. But at the time, I was. So that kind of, you know, thinking didn't even come into play. And like I said, I didn't know anything of what, you know, now. So, you know, I couldn't have like if I met a guy like that today, I can kind of, you know, right off the top of my head, I'd be like, oh, yeah, you know, have definitely definite opinions about it.
Speaker 2Back then, I didn't know what I just knew. It just it just was weird. You know, it just felt weird. It felt like I said. you know, creepy, weird, inhuman, you know, all those things. But I didn't know what context to put that into. Like I would today. I came across somebody like that.
@joann_marieWhat I try to explain to people is that it's kind of like when you go to Vegas, that everything's crazy. Everything is happening and it's just insane. But in your mind, you sort of like normalize it to be like, no, this is Vegas. So this is normal, right? But Hollywood is a million times crazier than Vegas. But when you're there, you just normalize it.
@joann_marieAnd it's everything is... Yeah, it's absolutely insane. But in your mind, you're like, oh, OK. And I also went into those crazy parties where there was like weird rituals and stuff like that. But in my mind, I kept always normalizing it as like, oh, no, these are rich people, like eccentric rich people. And I was like, OK, we're dynamic.
@joann_marieBut I've never done this. Yeah, sorry. Go ahead, Byron.
Speaker 2So going to some of those sex parties, I didn't at the time think anything ritualistic. It was just, oh, these are rich people, Hollywood people, just being a hedonist, whatever.
Speaker 2I didn't think of it as anything more than that. Were they doing something more than that at this point? Your guess is as good as mine. I was just a young guy being invited to a party and never experiencing anything like that. My friends didn't believe me. They're like, no way. I'm like, oh, yeah. I took some friends to one of those, too.
Speaker 2I said, no, you've got to see this. That's outside of anything that was ever part of my world.
@joann_marieYeah, the parties that I went more, it wasn't the sex parties. It was kind of like the... I don't know if it was Marina's Abramovich parties, but it was very similar to that. And I just thought it was very eccentric rich people. In the moment, I was like, well, these people have done everything, so now they are just doing this weird artistic... Because there is a lot of art in it, like very like...
@joann_marieugly art but it's still like oh no this is just art guys don't worry it's just art and in the moment you're like oh okay weird but I mean you don't think there's anything happening there was only one instance not in those parties you know how the clubs end at 2am so everyone goes to the after parties right and those are also very crazy parties like in the Hollywood Hills and in Hollywood and
@joann_mariethat I went, it was like in the Hollywood Hills and it was sort of like a cabin with weird sort of like castle decorations. I don't know, it was weird. They had like a pet cat, like a pet lion cat. It wasn't, oh yeah, like a mountain cat. I don't know, that was their pet. And there was old men with very young girls. But in the moment, because they had a lot of makeup and I was also 19, I didn't know if they were 13 or they were 25 because they had like so much makeup and they had like they were dressed as like cheap prostitutes.
@joann_marieAnd in the moment, I was like, well, they look young. But I mean, I was also young. I was 19. Right. So I like. Yeah, I didn't know. It wasn't until years later that I left Hollywood that I sort of got unbrainwashed because you also get brainwashed there, you know, like because everything's crazy around you. You just get used to being around crazy things that it just stops being crazy.
@joann_marieAnd when you leave, you're like, oh, my God, that was insane. And. Like, yeah, in the moment you don't realize. And yeah, that was the only maybe instance, but I cannot be 100% sure that it was underage people, but looking back, maybe it was. I don't know. Yeah.
Speaker 2You know, I really wasn't a party guy, so I didn't go too many. I had plenty of invites, and I'd been to some that were just completely normal. You know, nothing weird going on or stuff like that. But I said I didn't do drugs, wasn't much of a drinker, didn't care about getting a free meal somewhere. So, you know, if you get an invite, whatever.
Speaker 2I didn't care. I'd rather be home on a Friday night. I was more of a homebody then. And by 2004, I'd gotten married. But going out and partying and stuff like that was never part of my life. So, you know, I skipped out on a lot of that stuff. really just stuck to my own, you know, stuck to my own group of friends and didn't really venture out of it because, you know, like I said, a lot of phony fakeness, you know, there's zero authenticity in Hollywood.
Speaker 2Everything's fake. Every actor you like, who you think is this or that, it's just everything's a presentation, you know, and that's something you learn early on, right? You know, you got, you know, everybody's PR people, you know, everything's just a front, a face. you know, nothing's real.
@joann_marieAnd also it seems like they are competing to be weird, right? Like, I just felt like everyone was trying really hard to be as weird as they can be. And it's just, it's so weird. Sorry, Baron, go ahead.
Speaker 2Yeah. No, it's definitely gotten to that case now. I mean, we're, you know, nowadays it's the more extreme, you know, that you are, the more outrageous than, you know. they'll write an article or whatever about you, but you know, back then, you know, people weren't, you know, trying to do what they do now, you know?
@joann_marieYeah. I, it was also very interesting because I was in the acting side and you were speaking from like behind the scenes side and yeah, there is a lot of degeneracy. I remember going to those like networking parties and every single person goes into like these girls and boys that are there, like young men and young women who are there and they just hit on you, but like very explicitly and very like...
@joann_marieYeah, they just do it over and over and over and over. And I was a virgin, so nothing ever happened to me. I never went to read the script upstairs. I never went into any of those situations. Thankfully, nothing ever happened to me. But those things happen to every single person that I know. So when people are like, oh, maybe she's lying that she got raped.
@joann_marieI'm like, no, dude, this happens like all the time. 100% of the time this goes on. It's just... Yeah, it's a horrible environment. And I loved acting. I loved the art of it. I loved studying acting. I loved the process. I loved everything. But as I described it when I left, it's that acting, you sort of become a butterfly because you become so free and so connected to your emotions and so happy.
@joann_marieBut then the environment, it's your soul. And it's like a moth destroying your soul. And that's the best way I described it. And I left very disappointed in the entire experience. I don't regret it. I loved learning and I loved... Getting to know things, but it's a horrific experience. So thank you so much, Barron, for being here.
@joann_marieAnd would you add something more or should we go to Hans? Or Ian, what do you want to do?
Ian MalcolmYeah, no, I was going to open it up to everybody that would like to come up and ask some questions. We've got a little bit of room up here and a lot of hands that are already up. So if that'd be okay with you, Barron, maybe we could go around the room and get a little bit of a Q&A from some of the guests that are here.
Ian MalcolmSure. All right, perfect. So, Joanne, if you wouldn't mind walking through some of those. But the one thing I also want to say, I saw a lot of comments in the Purple Pill about challenges with the space, especially the first hour or so, it seems. And I'm going to presume this is a result of the CloudFlare issue and some of the X issues that people might have seen about, I don't know, maybe 12 hours ago.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I just want to apologize to everybody if there were any... uh, intrusions or cutouts of the audio. Uh, fortunately we have this recorded. And so presuming that that piece works, people will be able to go back and, uh, kind of listen to Baron's testimony here, which is it's, it's both in some ways that I want to say predictable.
Ian MalcolmUh, although I think we all have a hunch that these kinds of things happen, but to hear firsthand from the way in which they're happening, the ages of the people that they're happening with and the propensity, uh, that it is taking place, it's It beyond disturbing, I think, is maybe the way that I would say it. And when it talks about he was going into the shadowy figures, perhaps that are the money behind these things.
Ian MalcolmThe fact that 75 percent of the people that were producing some of the programs with him just happened to be of a homosexual proclivity. Right. Like the degree of what I would call degeneracy that clearly is rampant in Hollywood. I would just, you know, advise that people be very careful if they're considering going out there like Joanne just described.
Ian MalcolmAnd if you do, to make sure that you keep your moral compass front and center, because it certainly seems like all that glitters is not gold. And Hollywood seems to be a perfect example of it. But, yeah, let's go through some of the hands that we have here. And if anybody wants to come up, certainly feel free to request a mic and we'll rotate through everybody.
@joann_mariePlease repost this space. Follow Ian and Tom and, of course, our special guest, Baron. And if you guys quote with it, I will also repost that. And I'm just really happy you guys are here. And thank you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 3All right. Hold on. I'm glitching. Godfrey, go ahead, sir.
@g0dfr0yYeah, thank you, Baron. I worked in Hollywood for 15 years. I was a producer and screenwriter myself. One thing that stood out to me is I'm absolutely convinced that I was being watched by people in the CIA or Mossad as I was coming up through the ranks and that they were trying to, for lack of a better word, vet me to make sure I would play ball.
@g0dfr0yI met with numerous people who would meet up with me after I came back from a show or a film, and it didn't make sense as being organic at all. My question for you is, did you run into a lot of intelligence figures in Hollywood as well, like CIA or Mossad type people in your interactions? Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 2Nothing that ever stuck out to me like that. I don't know that I would have even been aware of it then, but I can think back and I don't remember anything like that.
Speaker 2Like I said, I just felt that as my career started ascending a bit and I reached that next level that I just kind of stuck my toe into something, into a different world when you reach a certain level that you wouldn't necessarily get a sense of when you're underneath it. You can be there your entire life and never see anything like that.
Speaker 2I had just gotten to that level to where I just – got my toe in the door and started experiencing some, you know, things that were really, really off to me or directly off, like being invited to a party with, you know, Beverly Hills mansion with kids, you know, and at the time, you know, the only thing, you know, I remember when he was telling me about the party and it's at a mansion and it's, you know, whatever, you know, big people there, whatever, um, you know, the only thing I could even reference at the time was eyes wide shut.
Speaker 2That was what was going through my head. What the hell is this? But I never got any sense of any CIA or anything like that.
@g0dfr0yGot you. Just as a follow-up question, did you ever meet a gentleman named Simon Hammerstein or hear of any parties that he threw? He used to throw eyes wide shut type parties that... were said to be more tame versions of what happened at Real Eyes Wide Shut, but did you ever hear of that individual at all? No, it doesn't ring a bell.
@g0dfr0yThank you.
@joann_marieI went to some of the Eyes Wide Shut looking parties, but it was still very, like, there wasn't any sex, but it was weird.
Speaker 3Like, I don't know. Yeah.
Ian MalcolmI'd be curious, Baron, because I think that probably would have been around that timeline where Stanley Kubrick would have made that film. I'd be curious if you had heard anything in terms of feedback from individuals that you were working with or around or friends with when it came to him releasing that film, because I know there was a lot of controversy around it as potentially lifting the curtain that we're kind of peering behind with you.
Ian MalcolmNo.
Speaker 2Didn't hear anything about it. You know, different time. There was no Internet or not Internet. There was no social media there. You know, I wouldn't have even known where you would even hear stuff like that. So it was just a it was just a weird movie at the time, you know, but that was the only thing that I could, you know, what I'm.
Speaker 2You know, getting this invite, it's the only thing I could reference in my head was something like that. Like, what the hell is this? You know. I had no frame of reference for anything like that being real before that moment.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and for anybody who is not, certainly an interesting film to watch, not necessarily the, let's say, the most family of friendly films, but some very interesting pieces of it and can go into not only the film itself, but some of the deleted material that supposedly was removed from it, because I think the original film was supposed to be
Ian MalcolmRoughly 20 minutes longer, and Kubrick suddenly or mysteriously died prior to its release. And that piece of footage was cut out from it. So a lot of questions as to what it was that he may have removed. And there's actually an entire theory that basically posits that the missing piece of the film has to do with the treatment of children.
Ian MalcolmAnd towards the very end of the film, it seems like there is a very curious, very subtle... suggestion that perhaps the child of Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman go off with strangers instead of going home with their parents, which might suggest that maybe there's more to that that wasn't left on the cutting room floor, supposedly.
Ian MalcolmAnd they may have been essentially mocking the audiences for not picking up on the subtleties of that prospectively suggested ending. And Bear, not sure if you have any thoughts on that one, but it is a very curious piece of cinema.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm a big Kubrick fan, so I've looked in a bunch of that kind of stuff. So I'm familiar with what you're talking about. And, you know, they did in the movie, of course, is the character. I forget the actress's name. Lili Sobieski, I think, where he goes to some costume shop or something like that. And she's clearly underage.
Speaker 2And the dad. is pushing her on, I think, like three Japanese businessmen and also trying to push her on Tom Cruise. So they he did put some of that kiddie stuff in there because she's supposed to be obviously like, you know, 15, 16 years old. And they got all dolled up and whatnot. So definitely, you know. Definitely interesting.
Speaker 2All that stuff about that movie.
Ian MalcolmYeah, it's very curious as is his death. And of course, that's also the individual that some suggest was involved with the filming of the moon landing, if it was in fact fake. And that piece, of course, is conspiracy. But what's not is that he certainly was involved with NASA. That's an irrefutable piece of history, which is very curious because it would lend itself perhaps to some of those other pieces, maybe having more validity than we might like to think.
Ian MalcolmSo very, very curious film. Very incredible director for what it's worth. Certainly one of the all-time greats of cinema. And with that actually being said, one little thing, Baron, I'd be curious for your thoughts on before we go to some of the other hands. We talked a little bit earlier about the leading men that you might put your, I suppose, your stamp of approval on.
Ian MalcolmAre there any greats of Hollywood that you think might have sincerely been the real deal and genuinely just trying to create either great art or send good messages? to make the world a better place, whether it's in front of or prospectively behind the camera?
Speaker 2You know, again, I could never say, I could never give any testament to anybody if I don't know their heart. I don't know them. I don't know their heart. I don't know their soul. So I couldn't say. Everything else is just superficial, what you know about somebody. I mean, there's guys I love who I, you know, seem to be, you know, however you want to think of them, you know, Clint Eastwood or something like that.
Speaker 2But, you know, I don't know them, you know, and they work in Hollywood. And, you know, you have to be aware of a lot of the stuff that goes on, you know, especially at certain levels. You know, and again, you don't know how pervasive it is, you know. Is it just, you know, certain people? Is it some of them or they just they know what's going on?
Speaker 2Nobody says anything. You know, I think with all the stuff with kids, this has been a thing in Hollywood since. beginning right i mean this was going back to shirley temple you know um she was dealing with that stuff back then um you know you got 70s with uh um what's that roman polanski you know and he was at whose house was he at when he raped that 13 year old girl jack nicholson's house so you know they're all kind of uh adjacent to it to some extent um so but i don't know them personally so i can't really uh
Speaker 2Say, you know, everybody wants to, you know, make a hero or a good guy out of somebody. Oh, you know, Keanu Reeves, the nicest guy. Maybe he is, you know, maybe he is a great guy. I don't know. I don't know him.
Ian MalcolmYeah, I saw some curious things and it's always hard to decipher what is fact and fiction. There are some curious rumors about his. girlfriend, and I suppose maybe her biological gender seems to be the suggestion that was made, and I'm not making that claim because I have no idea, but I did see that floating around. I think an account, Mialian, who frequents some of these spaces, I think she had shared that, so I'll see if I can't find it and put it in the purple pill, but to your point, it's kind of, what is it?
Ian MalcolmTruth is stranger than fiction, I suppose, and it is hard to believe that people swimming in the waters of this kind of murky ambiance that they're completely above board, right?
Speaker 2Yeah. Again, I don't know. I've met plenty of people and they're very, very nice. You can have a drink with them. They're very nice. But beyond that, I don't know. Actually, I could tell you some good stories if you want to hear some good Jay Leno stories. And again, this is just some inside stuff that... that I used to work, my office was right next to the Tonight Show.
Speaker 2So, you know, I knew Jay a bit. My buddy was a producer on one of his shows.
Speaker 2So he, one thing that he, you know, and Jay was very conservative, very conservative. He hated Obama, but you would never tell. You could never tell what Jay's politics were, but he was definitely right-leaning. And so one thing he said, and again, this is just, you know, we live in a world that we don't, you know, there's a, there's another world that exists for, you know, the elites that we have no idea that even exists.
Speaker 2And he, he would give us a taste of it. Like, you know, he's, he, he told us one time about like the week of nine 11. So all, all flights are grounded around the entire world, right? Definitely the U S you know, all our flights were grounded and, you know, he would just, you know, I think there were, I forget how we got on this subject, but he was just like, you have no idea.
Speaker 2He goes, these people, they don't, they don't fly. Like you can't, they don't check into an airport and you don't know when they're flying because they, they, they're not tracked at all. And he just said, as, as a, for instance, he says the week of nine 11, when all flights were grounded, his mother-in-law was stuck in Italy and she was very ill. And he made a call to George Bush.
Speaker 2And they got they put her on a plane, you know, secret plane and flew her over here. But there's no record of it. He was just he was just kind of talking about that kind of stuff. Like there's just there's just this world that exists that, you know, you're not part of. You're never going to be a part of. You won't even know it exists at those levels.
Speaker 2So, you know, again, that was just another interesting thing. And and he had actually seen some stuff. He was. In the 70s, he was he was basically the mobs comedian in Vegas. So he would say like he'd get he'd get calls at like he'd get a call at like two in the morning and said, we're going to send a car for you. Be ready in 15 minutes.
Speaker 2And he'd go do a private show for some, you know, mafia people, you know, whether it be at a club or somebody's basement or something like that. And, you know, and then he talked about some of the, you know, some of the stuff he saw. you know, at those things, you know. I don't know how much you want me to say.
Speaker 6Yeah, it'd actually be very interesting to hear a little bit if it's all right. Are we talking about the Jewish Mafia or the Italian Mafia? Or no idea, no distinction maybe?
Speaker 2Oh, Italian Mafia.
Speaker 6Oh, okay, okay.
Speaker 2Italian Mafia, yeah. So this was in the 70s and I think he was mostly working in Vegas. But, you know, he said, you know, he was their guy. they'd call whatever he'd get, you know, they'd send him a card, get there. And, you know, one of the things he said he saw, you know, again, don't know if it was a camera, if it was at a, you know, private club after hours or at somebody's home, he would do a show.
Speaker 2He says he watched, he's seen somebody get killed before right in front of him. Well, you know, they'd whack a guy out. Yeah. And, you know, shut your fucking mouth and, you know, tell your jokes, you know?
Speaker 2But yeah, he had some good stories.
Ian MalcolmAnd just out of curiosity, that's mob activity or that is somebody prospectively being murdered for the form of entertainment for other rich people? I'm kind of curious if either of the two.
Speaker 2That was just that was just that was just mob activity.
Ian MalcolmUnderstood.
Speaker 2But it's Hollywood and the mob. They were all connected. You know, a lot of a lot of this is not not not surprising to anybody, but a lot of movies are also just money laundering. So they'll make a movie. They don't care if it's successful or not. They're making it to launder money.
Ian MalcolmNo, and it seems it's so curious, right? Because you've got Hollywood and Las Vegas in between the film studios, the casinos, and then the high-end art market, which I don't think anything could be more a rendition of money laundering and kind of illicit. It's fraud at the end of the day, right? It's the richest of the rich moving...
Ian Malcolm60 million from here to there for a piece of art that goes into a vault that nobody ever looks at that then transfers hands for 100 million to somebody else. And all of these things are just crazy loopholes for the richest of the rich that operate in a totally different stratosphere of economic opportunity. Right.
Speaker 2Yeah. And that's such a light bulb monument when you realize the money laundering scam for everything. Right. But like, you know, before then, it was like, you know, for what were we just talking about? other art world you know what you've seen a hundred thousand dollars for a banana tape to a wall how it's money laundering all that makes sense right but before that you were just perplexed by this garbage art world that people are paying millions of dollars for you know kinda like the christmas store that you know how do they stay in business all year oh it's money laundering up okay that makes sense it just clears up a lot of stuff for you and the same goes for movies yet while a lot of water going on how i'd never never thought of that and and it is
Ian MalcolmIt's curious when you look at the Guggenheim and all these other art galleries that are world-renowned, there's a weird little pattern there that seems to extend to a lot of the modern artists who come from that tiny little group. The one that I saw most recently that I thought was just so comical was the woman who set up a swing in a grand ballroom and then put down a canvas.
Ian MalcolmAnd I don't know if she attached the paintbrush to her foot or the swing or whatever it was, but she just swung back and forth with the brush hitting the canvas, and then the thing sold for millions, maybe tens of millions of dollars as an incredible tapestry. And then you look at the name of the artist, and it's like, what do you know?
Ian MalcolmEvery single time comes back to the same little click.
Speaker 2Yeah. Yeah, it's all a scam. All scams.
Ian MalcolmBut so blessed to have you in here, Baron, kind of sharing these firsthand accounts. And it seems like we have AJ in the room with us who I think might be able to share some similar personal stories and maybe inquiries that he might have for you. So AJ, do you want to jump in and then we'll go back over? I'm not sure if it's Godfroy or who might be next, but Joanne can kind of go through.
Speaker 7Yeah, happy to. Thanks for hosting. Very interesting space. Barron, nice to meet you. Yeah, so I am currently on an honorable leave from the SAG-AFTRA union. I did a lot of background acting. So I was just wanting to pay the bills after a while. Got on a few fun projects. Got to work on Pirates of the Caribbean Part 4.
Speaker 7Met a few celebrities because Uber driving was my main source of income. But when you're in L.A., I did thousands of trips because I just wanted to pay the bills and save up some money. And I met, met a celebrity about one out of every 1000 trips was like a famous writer or an actress like Lauren Cohan from the walking dead.
Speaker 7She was there. Um, Wyatt Russell, Kurt Russell's son. That was an interesting trip. They actually invited me in for a little eyes wide shut party of their own, but I declined because I had a girlfriend at the time. It's kind of funny. Um, But it was definitely a wild experience. I remember signing my lease in 2008 at the Clio in Alexandria, Koreatown.
Speaker 7We signed the lease on Halloween night or the day of Halloween. The next morning, we woke up and there was a news report. There was a decapitated body found under the Hollywood sign on the morning of November 1st. So definitely some creepy stuff going on there. Had the time of my life though got to work on a lot of different sets and a lot of different places Quite an unforgettable experience.
Speaker 7I met before I even moved to Hollywood. I met one of Carol Burnett's daughter Carrie Hamilton, she's passed on now But I met her up in Santa Barbara and she invited me it was my senior year of college and she don't hear anything Can you hear it? Can you hear me now?
Speaker 3Sorry, go ahead, AJ.
Speaker 7I'll wrap up soon if there's audio glitches. But yeah, you know, she invited me to drop out of college.
Ian MalcolmAJ, you sound totally fine. So take all the time, my friend.
Speaker 7Oh, thanks. Yeah, I was just trying to keep it interesting. But as my senior year of college and I was actually a pedicab operator. So you have a bicycle with a bench on wheels and you tote the tourists around Santa Barbara and work for tips. And Carol Burnett's daughter jumped on the ride. She was very open and very friendly.
Speaker 7And I remember giving, she used my wheels twice. I gave her a ride back to her car and she grabbed me by the back of the head. She must've thought I was handsome because she said, here's your tip. And she gave me a big kiss and invited me up to Carol Burnett's house for the night where she was staying. And she was very, very alluring.
Speaker 7And she almost convinced me, why don't you move down to LA? And be my boyfriend. And I almost dropped out of college my senior year just to go move to LA. And that would have been quite a different experience. But the people are just generally very open. They're sexually open. If they want something, they'll go for it.
Speaker 7And it's just a lot like that. And maybe some people are more overt than others with their desires.
Speaker 7Overall, I had a pretty good time and I think it's one of the most competitive industries in the world. If you do go there, you got to decide what you're willing to compromise. Like if you wouldn't do a nude scene, well, I think it's, what is it? Back 10 years ago, it was a $500 minimum for eight hours. if a woman did a topless scene or a guy was like fully nude and sometimes they have entire crowd scenes where they need the audience naked, like shit or the, um, the actors naked, like a Schindler's list, or I think yes, man, with Jim Carrey, there's a scene where an entire audience is sitting there naked.
Speaker 7So if you just say, Hey, no, one's really going to care. Probably, probably no one's going to see me or you're just past. you don't care about embarrassment you're shame you're shamelessly proud of your naked body and hey i'll just take 500 bucks to to to be naked in some random scene for a day whatever you don't care what the reason is all you know is are you willing to do nudity are you willing to do same-sex kissing and all these things pay extra money or they're considered like a special ability and when you're trying to pay the bills and you think well
Speaker 7This could be an in for me. Maybe they'll see that I'm willing to pose naked. Maybe they'll give me an even bigger, better job. You never know. So it's a fun experience. If anyone wants to go for it, you can DM me. I've got some tips on how to kind of break in and get started so you're not just searching for jobs on Craigslist.
Speaker 7But yeah, the background acting route served me quite well. Got into the Actors Union. Got a few fun auditions. Nothing really to write home about except for Pirates of the Caribbean 4. That was a fun day.
Ian MalcolmWere you there with Captain Jack himself? With Mr. Johnny Depp?
Speaker 7No, I was with Barbossa, the peg-legged pirate played by Jeffrey Rush. We weren't allowed to talk to him. I forget the director for that one. They don't always have it all figured out. It was a funny... We actually did a whole week on a historical boat in the Pacific Ocean. And we had to wake up really early, sail out until you couldn't see the land anymore because they wanted to shoot 360 with water all around.
Speaker 7So you're getting paid to just ride on a beautiful boat. I wanted to be a pirate when they were casting. And they said, sorry, you're not ugly enough to be a pirate, but you could be a British naval officer. So that was kind of the best rejection. Sorry, you're not ugly enough to be this character. But we sailed out into the ocean.
Speaker 7They fed us pretty well and treated us pretty well. But there was a scene where, oh, I forget the script. I don't know much about nautical terms, but they were like, your sails can be at full mast or half mast, or the sails are all the way open or they're halfway open. And they actually had an error in the script as they were shooting.
Speaker 7And one of the other extras pointed out, so the character said, like, not like go full uh full sales but like go half sale so we need to go as fast as we can possibly go and one of the extras raised his hand and says you wouldn't be at half sale to go fast you would have the sales fully open like you literally have like a technical error in your script on the day of the shooting and the director freaked he got so angry it was kind of humorous watching them but everyone's trying not to laugh because they don't want to get in trouble so
Speaker 7That's the other thing, too, is just like kissing up. How much will you kiss up? And then the last thing I'll say is it's also one of the few industries they will discriminate on politics. My friend Corey Ibe, who he wouldn't mind his name being mentioned because he has an independent videographer and he wants the business.
Speaker 7But Corey Ibe, he voted Trump back in the day. And they had a really ornery production assistant sniffing out Trump supporters. And Corey was hired to do some independent photography on a stage. I forget which lot they were on, maybe Warner Brothers. I don't know. But the PA was like, so what do you think about Trump? Trump's doing a great job, isn't he?
Speaker 7And my friend Corey goes, yeah, you know, I like a secure border and I like a strong economy. I voted for him. The PA then did a 180 and said, oh, we can't have you here, bro. We don't like Trump supporters. And just excuse them from the job. So you got to be careful with your politics. That's the last thing I'll say. Thank you.
Speaker 3Yes, thank you so much, AJ.
@joann_marieAnd I mean, if you guys want to go to acting, just get some headshots with bright colored clothing and go on Central Castings, post them there and just go to castings. But I mean, I wouldn't recommend the environment. The environment sucks, guys. So don't do it.
Speaker 2Yeah. Well, I think in this day and age, and I, you know, I don't know, I don't think that you have to go to Hollywood. You want to make a movie, you can make a movie, you know, that's what I did. I didn't wait for somebody, you know, I just put together the money, you know, wrote my own story, cast, you know, did everything.
Speaker 2And, you know, with this day and age and the internet, you don't need to move to Hollywood. You know, I got a buddy, you know, I left, I left in 2010. I still worked in the industry until 2015. Then I was out after that, but I was already, I'd already moved. Um, but I got a buddy that's still there. He lost his job. God, I don't know, from Disney, like a year and a half ago or something.
Speaker 2It's been almost two years. He refuses to leave. And I'm like, why? You're a writer. Go, go back to, go, go close to your mom back in, you know, whatever state he's from, Texas, whatever. Go, you know, you can go write anywhere. You don't have to be there. There's no reason for you to be there. Most of the shoots are gone from there anyways.
Speaker 2And it's hard to find a job, you know, but if you want to put something together, you can do that wherever you are, you know?
Speaker 3And do you know what's very... No, I'm so sorry. Go ahead.
Speaker 2No, that was it.
@joann_marieOh, when I was there, it was kind of in the Obama era. And it was very... Like, if you did commercials or if you were in TV shows or if you were in the internet, they wouldn't cast you for big movies. And now that's open. Now you can be a TikTok star and they will cast you, you know? And... It's a big difference. So, yeah, no, I'm still thinking when back in the day, this was a long time ago.
@joann_marieMy mindset is still kind of like that. So, no, you're right, Baron. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2Yeah, I just don't like there's no traditional Hollywood anymore. So, you know, the idea of going there and making it, you know, I don't know what that means anymore. You know, like you said, though, if you've got, you know, a million followers on TikTok or Instagram, they'll put you in a movie. Or you get your own TV show.
Speaker 2You know, they've given TV shows to, you know, people that have YouTube channels. So, you know, if you're creative, you can do that wherever you are. You've got entire movie production, you know, studios in your phone these days. So you can do stuff if you're creative enough. And, you know, that was the environment I always worked when was, you know, up and coming hungry people.
Speaker 2So, you know, because that's a problem. You're an actor. you're not going to be able to act in anything unless somebody puts you in their thing. And, you know, you, so you got, you know, 8 million people vying for one role, you know, that's what it's like out there. And it's, you know, that was to me, the worst was actors.
Speaker 2Like I felt bad for them out of anybody in Hollywood. It was just, you know, people that were coming there trying to make it as an actor. Cause good luck. It's that's hard, you know, really, really hard. But you got to go out there. You know, my cousin moved out there to do acting and, you know, he was doing plays, you know, he was putting it in his own theater troupe and stuff like that.
Speaker 2You just got to do your own thing and do it outside. You know, if you're trying to do it inside, then, you know, usually a lot of times it's, you know, those are people that know people, you know, they've got connections, they've got insight, you know, they're part of whatever click and they get bumped up a lot faster than your other people, unless you're very talented, you know, but I just don't think you need to move to Hollywood to, to make it, to be creative.
@joann_marieBack in my day, if you were in a commercial, people would be like, why is that guy from the commercial in that movie? So they literally wouldn't cast you. And they will tell you, like, try not to do these jobs. Like, if you want to do those jobs, like, go. somewhere else, like go to Japan, go to like other places, you know.
@joann_marieSo you lose a lot of opportunities as well because you don't want to get burned. And now the more exposure you have, the more fame, like they are going to cast you easier. So it's the literal opposite.
Speaker 2Yeah, like I just mentioned this the other day, we're watching a commercial and there was a known actress. You know, like I'm like, I know who that, that person was in a lot of stuff. And now they're in some whatever commercial, they don't even have a speaking role. That's how hard it is for them that they're having to do just commercials where they don't even have speaking roles.
Speaker 2So, you know, but it's very, yeah, very different back then, you know, you get, you know, ostracized if you were doing those kind of things.
Speaker 6The difficult point of the industry, a really quick question, and I don't want to hog the mic by any stretch of the imagination, but with AI, I mean, these people aren't going to really even have any jobs anymore. I mean, whether they're an A-list celebrity or whatever, I've heard that the direction they're going to move is one of using AI for everything.
Speaker 6And we've already seen what some of these video generation apps are like, the high-quality videos that they can put for people that are members of the general public, the kind of technology these studios have available.
Speaker 2Oh, it's 100%. That's 100% going to happen. And, you know, look, if they don't have to pay somebody, they're not going to pay them. So if they can just use an AI-created character, they're going to do it. Why do you think they switched to... all this reality program, you know, reality in quotes, but non-scripted TV because it's cheaper.
Speaker 2It's just cheaper garbage to produce to where it was just like all of a sudden, you know, I watched it as like, you know, from one season to the next, it was like, holy shit, like how much of our, you know, shows were just all non-unscripted, you know, as they call it. So the same thing will happen with AI. They don't care about quality or anything like that.
Speaker 7Baron, don't you suppose they could be turning your favorite TV show into like a choose-your-own-adventure? So you watch the whole season and you get to the finale and you're like, damn it, I didn't like this ending. I want those two characters to fall in love. I want that guy to die. And you just punch that into your remote control and then it takes, you know, maybe overnight it calculates and it generates a five-minute alternate ending for you.
Speaker 7And you have like a choose your own adventure with your favorite programs.
Speaker 2Anything and everything is possible. I mean, when I was there, I was against just digital filming. I was still using film. So, you know, for at that time in the early 2000s, when digital was starting to creep in, you know, most young filmmakers were wanting to jump to digital. I didn't want to. I wanted to stick with film.
Speaker 2You know, so that may be popular with Kodak and whatnot. But, you know, that's where they all switch to. It's all digital and it'll you know, who knows what they're going to do. But I think Hollywood's kind of dead. I mean, honestly, I don't really watch. I don't watch any who watches network television. First off, nobody.
Speaker 2I don't know anybody who's watching network TV shows. You know, you've got so many cable channels. The content I watch is usually on YouTube. You know, I like to watch people that, you know, are. you know, traveling in the outdoors and stuff like that. Or if you like, you know, shows of people that work on cars, find that on YouTube.
Speaker 2And it's a lot more interesting. You don't have commercials and, you know, fake drama built into just, hey, I just want to watch a show of this guy working on a car. You know, so, you know, and this young, younger people aren't watching network TV. They're watching stuff on their phones. So what they're going to be into is going to be very different from what I'm into.
Speaker 2You know, I go see old theaters, old movies at the theater. That's what I go see. My theaters here, they play old classics, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, all that kind of stuff. So we spend most of our time seeing those because they don't make many good movies these days. But I'm of a different generation. Younger generation, they're going to eat up all this stuff.
Speaker 2They're eating up all this AI stuff as it is. So that's not really my fight at this point. That's a whole different generation that's going to have to deal with that. We just get to deal with bad TV shows and movies.
@joann_marieYes, Barron. I'm sorry I keep jumping in. And also, guys, thank you so much for your patience. And please repost this space. Follow Ian, Tom, and Barron. And yeah, thank you so much for being here. This is my favorite topic, so I'm just so grateful Ian made this space. My final exam was about the differences between digital and film.
@joann_marieAnd I think...
@joann_mariewith digital is kind of like when you heat food in the microwave and film is when you actually home cook and it's completely different. It's like, it gives you the same, like at the end of it, right? Like the... Sorry, I keep missing words. English is my second language. Yeah, it's the same purpose, but it's completely 100% different flavor.
@joann_marieAnd yeah, I'm also very passionate about film, like actual film. All of the art around it, it's just so beautiful. But again, it's just so perverted now. So thank you so much for being here. And sorry, go ahead, Bern.
Speaker 2Oh, no, that was a good comparison. I just basically say digital has no soul. That's how I look at it.
@joann_marieIt doesn't. And we have a couple of hands, so are you good with time so that you can answer a couple of them? Oh, amazing. Thank you so much for being here and really, really nice to meet you. All right, Godfrey, go ahead, sir.
@g0dfr0yThank you, Joanne. So, Baron, it's my contention that... nearly all of Hollywood is money laundering. And I don't think it's ever been a legitimate business. I think that they've relied on audiences to fill theaters to keep up the illusion that it is a business, but it is always, always been a money laundering operation.
@g0dfr0ySo with that said, I think Hollywood is officially dead. And the reason that is, is because Larry Ellison bought in to Paramount and and CBS, and he's now about to buy Warner Brothers, and HBO is in talks to buy as well. And the reason he's buying it is because he's the only one who has the deep enough pockets to let it lose a billion or two billion dollars a year, probably more than that, probably more like five billion a year, to bleed out.
@g0dfr0yHollywood is dead. And this worries the Satanists and global Jewry to no end. I think they're freaking out about it because it's my contention that film to them is a ritual. They make these films as satanic rituals. And this is the way that they keep their spells over the masses. It's a way that they pollute society.
@g0dfr0yAnd this empire is coming to an end. And Larry Ellison is maybe giving them a year or two left, at most.
Speaker 4This is another Jew-hitting group?
@g0dfr0yPlease stop, Seth. Don't do this. I don't know who that was, but Larry Ellison is maybe giving them... Joanne, who was that just out of curiosity?
Ian MalcolmSeth, wow. I dropped him. Oh, you already dropped him. Okay, wonderful. And just really quickly, Godfrey, and I don't mean to interrupt the train of thought, isn't it curious that talking about evil Hollywood and a person comes in and without listening to anything just goes, oh, this is a Jew-hating space. Perhaps that individual has maybe connected dots on their own and is now trying to pretend like he was unaware of.
Ian MalcolmWhat a weird piece of comedy that was. Thank you so much for... the intrusion and also for conducting yourself in a way that perhaps is not only low IQ, but also low EQ or let's maybe say immoral or amoral. So you're just further validating our proof point. I'd go out on a limb and suggest the person who did that might just happen to be Jewish.
Ian MalcolmWhat a weird coincidence. The whole thing comes full circle.
@g0dfr0yYeah, yeah. And yeah, so what I'm saying is Hollywood is a religious endeavor. And if you've worked in it like I have and Barron has, it is a religion to these people. Making dark, satanic films about murder and snuff films masquerading as horror films, these are rituals. You know, all the inside baseball jokes about pedophilia.
@g0dfr0yYou have Mrs. Doubtfire, who's an exact replica of the lady from the McMartin preschool scandal. Things like that. The stuff we were talking about earlier with Nickelodeon and the GAC. All this stuff is part of their rituals. So my point is Hollywood was never a legitimate business. It was always based on money laundering.
@g0dfr0yThe people flocking the theaters was to keep the illusion alive. Hollywood is absolutely dead. It has a shelf life of maybe two years left. And that's why Larry Ellison is buying in. He's buying in to give it some last CPR. What do you think about that, Barron?
Speaker 2I mean, it's definitely dead as it was. I mean, you know, they're obviously scrambling to figure out what they're going to do. But like I said, I don't, you know, network television. I, you know, who watches those shows, you know, their movies aren't doing what they used to. So they got to figure out what they're going to do.
Speaker 2But as far as the money, look, you could you could see ever since 2015 when they all started pushing, when it really went into gear with them pushing all the, you know. Identity politics, the. You know, the LGBT stuff, the the girl bosses, the feminist stuff where they were losing money. I mean, they're losing money on their biggest tentpole movies, right?
Speaker 2They're just coming out there. They're flopping. But it didn't change. They kept doing it. And at some point you have to realize they're not in this to make money. They're not doing this to make money. They're doing it to push whatever they're pushing, you know. So that became really clear after 2015, you know.
Speaker 2definitely up to the you know recent years where it was just you know now of course they're making slight changes you know trying to drop some of the stuff but you know for all those years you're going they don't they're not in they're not doing this to make money because if you were into it to make money you wouldn't be doing this and also you wouldn't be pushing these things that you know nobody wants to see
@joann_marieAnd also they are doing this second screen situation because now everybody knows that everyone is on their phones. So all of the plots in all of the movies and all of the TV shows are really dumb so that people can catch up with what's happening. So that's also making TV and movies way, way, way, way worse than they were.
@joann_marieSo yes. Thank you so much, Mara.
Speaker 7Wasn't there recently a film produced entirely on cell phones? If I'm not mistaken, isn't there a film festival that is, I don't know if they're still doing it or how successful the first iteration was, but the film festival is basically like you have like 48 hours to shoot a movie entirely on your iPhone.
Speaker 2They've been doing that for a while. Shooting a film on a phone isn't new. I mean, I think Steven Soderbergh did that. many, many years ago. I can't remember which movie it was.
Speaker 7I'm sorry to interrupt you, but Blair Witch Project kind of broke through with that, didn't they?
Speaker 2No, that was a video because that was like 98. So there weren't smartphones back then. But I think one of the 28 Days Later movies, I think, was maybe shot on a phone as well. So they've been experimenting with it for a while.
@joann_marieThe intro of True Blood was filmed fully on a cell phone. I remember people losing their minds over it back then.
Speaker 2I don't remember the intro.
Speaker 7I think we'll be seeing more like AI robot characters. My mother is a creative writer now in her retirement, and she got an international writers finalist gold stamp on her recent book. But she came to visit for her birthday. we were brainstorming we're like oh do you want to write a script i guess i don't know i guess i'll spill the beans i don't even know if i'm going to do this but it was a clever idea you remember the home alone with macaulay culkin well what if the home alone is like a robot butler and it can be home a i one so it looks like alone but the robot's name is ai1 i don't know we just we're just kind of like getting started on something and i probably shouldn't divulge
@joann_mariestuff that might become intellectual property but oh well thank you so much aj and we do have a lot of hands that have been waiting for a lot of time and also we have a couple of requests so let's go to the hands guys if it's a it's a okay ian okay and tom yes okay amazing i'll oh no um let me be frank go ahead sir
@joann_marieLet me be Frank going once. Let me be Frank going twice. All right. Alpha, Omega. Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 8I think a Patriot was first before me and then Rev before me.
Speaker 9Then I'm after that. Oh, thank you very much. I really, really appreciate it. We are honored to have you, Baron, join us. It's really a special time. And I want to just say a couple of things. and then ask one question to Baron. The Bohemian Grove is all Illuminati. It's all evil, demonic, evil stuff. And I had a friend that was in the CIA, and he said, yeah, it's all Illuminati.
Speaker 9But anyways, Baron, I wanted to ask you about four, just four actors. I wanted to ask you about Samuel L. Jackson.
Speaker 9Mel Gibson. Listen to this. Jeff Goldblum and Denzel Washington. Do they have good morals? Are they good people or are they been sucked into the whole thing as well?
Speaker 2I don't know them. So I can't speak to their morals or anything. I mean, I know as much as you know about those guys. I mean, obviously, Mel was ostracized by Hollywood, you know, so he was on the outskirts of that for many, many years. And I don't know that he was ever really truly accepted back in. You know, he pretty much has forged his own path, made his own, produced his, you know, financed his own movies, you know, Passion of the Christ and Apocalypto.
Speaker 2So... You know, Denzel, I mean, you hear decent things about these guys, you know, but again, I don't know them, so I don't know their hearts.
Speaker 9Well, I would just mention in those four because they, I did find out that they both do believe in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, and that's all I was asking about.
Speaker 2Yeah, I mean, definitely Denzel and Mel. I don't know about the other guys, you know.
Speaker 9Isn't Jeff welcome Jewish? Yes, he is. But I think he's a messianic Jew.
Ian MalcolmThere's the LARP. It's so fantastic.
Ian MalcolmAnd for what it's worth, I don't know much about him, the man. What I do know is I find the character, frankly, an interesting personification of the thing that I think we're speaking out against. And I know I've shared this in other spaces, but if you think of a character who speaks out against the... hubris and the arrogance of man to think that it can control nature which i think is essentially what a certain group of people are trying to do to the other people on the planet it makes for a very curious uh little little avatar and you add in i think the relevance of that same concept to things like mrna and it kind of comes full circle so uh i can't say i know much about the guy though uh nor of his his moral compass thank you very much i've been listening sorry go ahead
@joann_marieI've been listening to Ian for two years almost every day. And now that I see movies with Jeff Goldblum, I'm like, why does he sound like that? Like my brain associates Ian with that voice. So it's just insane to me. But yeah, thank you so much, Patriot. All right, Rev, go ahead, sir.
Speaker 10Okay, thank you very much. I'll be brief because I don't really have any questions. I just wanted to say hi to Ian, of course, and to the panel and appreciate and be thankful because it's been an interesting, fascinating view behind the curtain, so to speak. And it made me think of a couple of things. One of them that was brought up before was I remember watching the Shirley Temple.
@joann_marieThere is a lot of noise behind you. Can you go to like a more quiet spot?
Speaker 10Unfortunately, no. So I'll just leave it at that. Thank you for the show, for the mic. Great show. I appreciate it.
Ian MalcolmRev, not a worry. And for what it's worth, if you do have an iPhone, I think you might be able to turn off the sound or turn on, I'm sorry, the sound isolation for your voice. Nope, getting a thumbs down for that. But Rev, always a pleasure to have you in here, my friend. And if it does get a little quieter in the background, feel free to jump in.
Ian MalcolmOr if you want to add to... What you were saying, feel free to certainly do so. I don't want to cut you off. Joanne wasn't incorrect that there's a lot of background noise, but would prefer to have your voice even with the noise than not at all. So feel free to jump back in, my friend, if you feel comfortable. And then otherwise, we'll go to...
Ian MalcolmThere you go. I'll just be real quick.
Speaker 10The references to the... What we already know... The... Morality, the train of indecency that we've seen, goes back to this show of typical days. I remember seeing scenes of her very uncomfortable, with sitting on lapses of old men that made her show up. These things come back to mind ourselves. And I just wanted to say thanks.
Speaker 10Bottom line is, this is all verified, what I've already thought of. We are basically, not only politically, but entertainment in any aspect that controls and manipulates social uh culture etc we are literally ruled and entertained by pedophiles and perverts so thank you for that back and thanks again yes thank you so much for coming up rev and okay alpha omega energy go ahead sir welcome to the panel yeah thank you uh thomas of alpha omega energy is uh my startup i'm i'm a uh
Speaker 8electrochemist, scientist, and engineer. I make satellite technology and energy technology and reverse engineer all of the drugs and so-called vaccines and so on. And over the Fraudvid period, I call it Fraudvid, not sorry to anybody who might be offended by that. Over this period, I've seen a record controlled opposition across the entire Fraudvid space.
Speaker 8And on all of the X-Spaces and clubhouses and all those social media. And as well with everything to do with the space agencies and NASA and Tesla Motors. Elon Musk is literally the face of energy suppression. I'm not sure how many people have figured that out yet. But I see this flat Earth, you know, so-called movement, etc.,
Speaker 8And it's come to my attention, and I've been watching this over the last 10 years, and it's come to my attention that virtually all of these influencers, just like in pharma, just like in health and the vaccine industry, everything else, they're all fake. It's all controlled opposition agents. One after the other, this has been people doing the research and whatnot.
Speaker 8And I personally find this, whatever you think about these people, science fiction enthusiasts or whatever, whatever you think about these people, it doesn't really matter. Hopefully everybody will agree that lying to the public on grand scale is absolutely abhorrent and disgusting and should be criminally convicted as treason, as treasonous.
Speaker 8And it's always been interesting to me how people talk about Hollywood and everybody is so familiar with the absolutist corruption that's going on there, but right over the Hollywood Hills, and they talk about the parties, the sex parties, and the intelligence agencies and everything else in the Hollywood Hills and so on, and right on the other side of the Hollywood Hills in Lancaster in Palmdale, which I'm from California, I've been all through everywhere in there, from there, beginning there,
Speaker 8all the way across through Nevada and the Nevada desert and all of the testing sites, all the way to NASA in Texas, Dallas, Houston, and so on, and all the way north up to Salt Lake City, Utah, including Colorado and all of the film studios there, you have this box. I call it the black box. This is your intelligence agencies, space agencies, right?
Speaker 8Your Gaia networks in there with the Rothschilds. and the Rockefellers, your Esalen Institute, and all of the propaganda, all of this manipulation, right? Your SOFIA, your Hubble Space Telescope, your space programs, your B-2 stealth bombers, all of our drones are tested there, manufactured there, your Anduril, everything's happening there.
Speaker 8But then it's just like a cloud. So people talk about Hollywood, but then these same people talking about this and exposing this are... generally covering up for all of this manipulation and fraud that's happening, how humanity is being frauded in all of the rest of this. They never put these two together. They never connect them.
Speaker 8And this just stays under the radar. If you go driving through there, it's everywhere. It's absolutely everywhere. And it's everything you see. And I'm very interested to connect offline. I'm a co-host on California's Weaponized News regularly, so if anybody wants to get any information out on the independent media, and I have friends in the independent media, please contact me.
Speaker 8Especially in these regards, if they want to blow the whistle on anything that's space agency kind of stuff on any of these Gaia actors and this fake bullshit that they're doing, I become very sick to my stomach. which is how corrupt it is and i've recently come across uh... and it's uh... uh... some people might have heard of it uh... last year december fourteen through seventeen these guys rigged a fake antarctica trip to own and destroy the flat earth movement uh... where where they actually use uh... and this is the flat earth influence influencers who've been the controlled opposition guys for like a decade already this guy jaren
Speaker 8and some other guys, Flat Earth Dave, and this guy's actually one of these Illuminati Freemasonic members, and that's been exposed already, so it goes way back, and he's in business partnerships for a long time with Tim Rothschild and these other Rothschilds in these networks, and the guy who paid for it, organized it, is using a moniker of William Bill Duffy, and this William Bill Duffy
Speaker 8is this Jewish guy who's a fake pastor in Colorado, and his office for his supposed church is literally in the same building as the United Nations GIS mapping company, the premier mapping company that runs for the UN, their Antarctic mapping for the Antarctic Treaty, and that location with all of these... Spook agencies that do all of that and sell all of this to the international agencies and all the space agencies is literally 40 yards inside of the same parking lot, 40 yards away from Lockheed Martin's headquarters.
Speaker 8And this guy works there and they brag on their websites how they have this like virtual tour, 3D virtual tour software that's... integrated with artificial intelligence, where they can do these kind of... Alpha, I don't mean to be rude, but may I ask where this is going? Well, I would just love to connect. I mean, this is Hollywood, and this is the evil of Hollywood.
Speaker 8I would love for anyone to connect with me that might... I'm going to be investigating this further. If anybody might be able to help me with this, please connect. This is all, you know, I'm noticing, the great noticing, Jewish run. And it's really appalling. So please reach out. Thank you so much. And we'd love to have you on Weaponized News, Ian Malcolm.
Speaker 8That'd be great to have you sometime. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and not trying to cut you short there, just trying to kind of understand where the progression was going to bring it back to the topic at hand. But no, a lot of these things are certainly being controlled. The individuals that sit atop, there is this strange pattern of it. When it comes to Flat Earth and things of that nature, I think it's an interesting
Ian Malcolmlet's say presentation of ideas i i i i don't necessarily claim to have a opinion on the matter and i say that just because how could i possibly now crazy is that i've listened species hollywood well and look at listen i listen to both sides of the equation and uh... and i think the the conclusion i've come to for what it's worth is that it's not a primary thing to focus on at the the moment uh... because again the
Ian Malcolmissue that in front of us is kind of the tiger that's in the room with us. And whether that room that we are in with the tiger is on the 20th floor or the first floor of a building, it doesn't really matter to me. What certainly does is that we figure out how to deal with the issue that is destroying everything around it.
Ian MalcolmAnd then maybe once we do, maybe we can have honest conversations around where we are and how we got here and all those things. And I'm not suggesting that to minimize your take, but rather just giving you what is kind of my knee-jerk reaction to that subject, which again, we did a space... A couple of them, actually, for what it's worth.
Ian MalcolmAnd I know that Witkin is, or Witsit, I'm sorry, is kind of a champion in that space. Really enjoyed the conversation with him. I think he's a very sharp operator for what it's worth. And again, he's welcome to his opinion, others to theirs. And I don't necessarily have one because to try and comprehend everything that goes into his position would be no different than me trying to discuss the JQ with somebody that's ignorant on the subject and then having...
Ian MalcolmYou know, them telling me I'm incorrect on these, let's say, unusual patterns of overrepresentation, where obviously I know I am correct, but a lot of people would find that very hard to believe. And so similarly with Flat Earth and all these other things, I don't know if there's an ice wall around the Arctic and if Admiral Byrd discovered energy and aliens and other things of that nature.
Ian MalcolmI find them all very interesting to discuss, though. Would welcome a future space on that, Alpha, if you'd like to go into that. But to bring things back on the topic, let's go to Joanne. And I think it was Let Me Be Frank who I think had stepped away but might be back. And if they are, let's make sure they get a chance to go.
@joann_marieYes, and also, guys, please repost this space. Follow Ian and Tom and, of course, our special guest, Baron. And if you guys go tweet it, I will also repost it. And thank you so, so, so much for being here in one of my favorite topics ever. Let me be frank.
Speaker 3Go ahead, sir.
Speaker 11Oh, my God. Thank you. I was trying to put eardrops in my dog's ear when I was called upon, and I didn't get to the mic fast enough. because you guys run a tight space, which I love.
Speaker 11But since we're talking about Hollyweird in California, I wanted to partake a story of a girl that I knew from childhood, 10 years old.
Speaker 11a beautiful girl and uh she got out of college and went to la and tried to break into the the the acting world and i i i don't know i don't know the the specifics and i talked to her a lot i could probably ask her uh You know, as far as the casting couch, if she turned it down, I assume she did because she always ended up with like either an extra.
Speaker 11She was either an extra or maybe she got a spot in an advertisement, you know, something simple. But I will say. She was dating a guy.
Speaker 11who was a member of the band Red Hot Chili Peppers in L.A. Maybe you've heard of them. This was in the 90s at the height of their... Fucking right we have, mate.
Speaker 10We love the Chili's, brother.
Speaker 11Yeah. And so the funny thing is, and it's just a funny story, and I'll just leave it at that. that I would come to visit and see my dear friend, you know, that I had a childhood crush on. Things happened, you know, we never really, you know, whatever it is, it is what it is. But she was with a guy from the band, and I guess they were happy.
Speaker 11I don't know. It was the 90s. People were doing heroin. It was weird, you know. I'd show up, and I'd be like, oh, God, Jesus. you know, and I, you know, it, it was, it was the nineties. Okay. Uh, but, um, every time I would show up and we'd hang out and we'd go out to eat and, uh, she'd bring her boyfriend from the band, uh, with her, not, not one of the main members.
Speaker 11He was like a back, uh, one of the, he was, uh, uh, he was a maestro in cello and, uh, no, not cello, um, viola, which is like a violin, but bigger. And anyway, every time we'd go out to eat, um, he'd either disappear to the bathroom when the, when the, when the fucking, when the bill showed up or he'd, he'd act like he didn't even see it.
Speaker 11And he'd keep talking. talking and I always had a deep aversion for this person not because I didn't not because excuse me not because I thought that he wasn't a good fit for a friend that I've known since childhood but for the person he was and come to find out years later when I thought about it and I looked him up And every time I had to foot the bill, for every time we went out and hung out, he was a Jew.
Speaker 11And you can look him up.
Speaker 11His name is Tree. Tree was his cool name, you know, the band name. But his last name was Barry. And that... Right then, I understood why I always had to foot the fucking bill every time we went out to eat. And I'm going to say this because you don't know who I'm talking about. He gave her herpes. Probably through Mimitsa Pepe with his people who did that to him.
Speaker 11But, yeah. And it broke my heart. It broke my fucking heart because this is a girl that I love my whole life. She's still like a sister to me. And this fucker basically kind of like didn't ruin her life, but he kind of did, you know. And, you know, it is what it is. Oh, oh, and here you go.
Speaker 11I don't know if you know who Stacey Plaskett is, but she's the congresswoman to the U.S. Virgin Islands, where I'm from, where I grew up in the Caribbean. She's also the godmother. Thank God it's not legal. She's the godmother of my last child. And she's under a bunch of fire right now for texting in 2019.
Speaker 11texting uh epstein um during the deposition of going um and so it's i'm just i'm just so sick of it all i'm so sick of being attached to all this degeneracy these people and uh yeah don't be a spastic then Please don't interrupt, sir.
@joann_mariePlease don't interrupt.
Speaker 11I'm trying not to be. And I formulate my life around not being spastic. But, you know, every day I wake up and I think, the world's not, it's not going to be any worse today, right? And then I go on the news and I start listening to things and I go, oh, okay, it is. So, that's my story. I'm sticking to it. And I love you guys.
Speaker 11Thanks. Thanks for letting me speak.
Speaker 6Yeah, really quickly, when it comes to this whole issue pertaining to why women like this friend you had end up giving too much of their best years to people like this character. It has to do with the worship of celebrity. Everyone in the West has been conditioned, some of us less effectively than others, worship other human beings and the human beings that were trained conditioned to worship are unfortunately the idiots that hollywood and the entertainment industry pedestal eyes so yeah just a thought i wanted to share with everyone but i think that's coming to an end and we have to do everything we can to try to assist in aiding in the eventual death of celebrity worship because they're nothing there's nothing impressive about the vast majority they're a
Speaker 6There is.
Ian MalcolmAnd Tom, for what it's worth, the people that they choose and select to groom for those positions, to pay, to normalize their, let's say, degenerate behavior, they basically, and it's the entire concept of what is an influencer. Let's think of the word itself. It is to influence others, which is essentially the second coming of the celebrity.
Ian MalcolmAnd so what are they trying to do? It's trying to normalize the behaviors that they position to you on television so that you look up to the person that's on the screen, you then emulate their behavior, which is always going to be more degenerate than it was yesterday. And to your point, Tom, and it's why I think not only was entertainment in terms of the screen and music, not only were those weaponized, but I think the entire piece of sports, the money that goes into it, TruthTeller was talking about Barstool and how he believes it's essentially a money laundering scheme that runs that entire operation.
Ian MalcolmBut if you think of sports, of musicians and of actors. 60, 70 years ago, those people made no money. It was not something you did to get rich. People that were professional athletes, it was a side job or essentially a hobby for the top tier athletes with very few exceptions here and there. And people don't realize that.
Ian MalcolmThese are not things that is, at least from my perspective, these are not organic financial, let's say, tools. This isn't the free market that arrived that it costs $1,000 to sit courtside at the Lakers game. Because guess what? The stadium is a third full. The reason that it costs $1,000 is because they don't care how many people actually sit there.
Ian MalcolmIt is pageantry. It is part of the simulation. It is given to you so that you glorify these athletes, the actors, the musicians that, like was just said, often come with zero moral compass. with complete self-centeredness. And the reason that they often, let's say, possess that is because that's exactly who you would want to use if you were weaponizing them against other people.
Ian MalcolmBecause to the very comment that Barron was talking about, being a director in Hollywood, having a, let's say, set of morals growing up, in this case, Catholic. He said no to those things that I'm sure if he had said yes to may have catapulted him into... Let's say the stratosphere of Hollywood success. But what would he have had to do to sell his soul?
Ian MalcolmThey're all just different. Let's say they are different tools of the same machine that seeks to normalize not only the propaganda that we're all aware of and the immorality, but of course, to revere these individuals that are nothing but puppets. and pawns, and if we look at the executive producers, the owners of the sports teams, and all of...
Ian MalcolmThere we go. Wow, isn't that... You know, and here's the thing that's so curious, is that the puppet is me, says the guy with the locked account that is clearly brand new to Twitter. Now, what's curious about this is that that individual is coming in here because this is the side of the story that they don't want people to hear.
Ian MalcolmThey don't want you to connect these dots. They want you to stay in the matrix. So as we describe it, as we understand it, and as we recognize through individuals like Barron, the depths of the depravity that it is, then they're going to send in their agents, quickly, avert all your attention, pay no attention to Morpheus.
Ian MalcolmNot suggesting that I am that, but rather that this space becomes that, that we all become that thing. That's why I said in a different space that we are all Neo. None of us are the savior, the key. None of us are the secret weapon or ingredient. And none of us are the white knight that is coming to save the day like the Q LARP, right?
Ian MalcolmWe all have to become that thing. Democracy is flawed in a million different ways. But if we have millions of people standing outside of Washington, D.C. and outside of, let's say, London and Paris and every other major city saying we are done with the matrix, it's time to end. It's time to be honest. about the finances, the entertainment, the technology, the politicians.
Ian MalcolmWe see it. We're done with it. You no longer get to lie about the literal Holocaust of the Palestinians in Gaza while glorifying the latest rendition of Black Hawk Down or Saving Private Ryan so that you convince a whole bunch of white Americans to go fight another war for Israel. It's not going to happen. We are done.
Ian MalcolmSo send in your little agents. to suggest that it's another Jew-hating space because we're discussing the evils of Hollywood. Thank you for outing that perhaps you, the dissenter, are aware of this unusual concentration of interest. And then send in the other people to say, don't listen to these propagandists. No, it's clearly us that are propagandizing a message that the media won't share, that the technology companies censor, that all of the big influencers seemingly lie about, and that every piece,
Ian Malcolmof the information superhighway that is your academic institution, all the way to Fox News, all the way to the Daily Wire, that they all share the same lies. And then when we demonstrate that they are lies, we're called racist, or more often than not, anti-Semites. Isn't it weird that patriotism is anti-Semitism? Isn't it weird that morality is anti-Semitism?
Ian MalcolmIsn't it weird that wanting to make the world a better place for your children and to not have them? Oh, I don't know. become LGBT sex transits, whatever you would call that, that that's anti-Semitic? Why is everything that advocates for the good and that perhaps is truth, anti-Semitism? What a weird pattern. Perhaps that tells us a little bit about those who claim that they are the Semites.
Ian MalcolmAnd then we can go into that entire thing, which very well might be just as big of a lie as the rest of modernity that we live in. We are lorded over by psychopaths, by liars, by what you might call a mafia, I think that's a fair thing to call it, but they are clearly immoral beyond description. And so I apologize for that, but anybody else that wants to come in here, I will make all of you look utterly foolish if you try and shut down free speech on the claim that we are hateful as we are peacefully, calmly describing evil.
Ian MalcolmIt's that black and white. It's that good and evil. And I'm done accepting or tolerating evil suggesting that we are the bad guys for advocating for the good. It's unbelievable. You might even say it is somewhat akin to another person who walked the earth roughly 2,000 years ago who was called an evil wizard. As his mother was called a prostitute.
Ian MalcolmAnd he is now supposedly burning in feces. What a weird coincidence. Truth is very, very scary to those that lie. Mirrors are very unattractive to those who are ugly. And so we are going to hold up the mirror. We're going to speak the truth. And when they cry and they whine out and suggest that we're hateful for calmly discussing these things, we will make it more and more obvious to more and more people that they have all been under the spell that is Hollywood, that is the Hollywood branch or the Hollywood itself, the Holly tree.
Ian MalcolmThe Dom documents used to speak about God love him wherever he is. I hope it's up with the creator. This is witchcraft. Like what Godfroy was saying, like Tom was saying, like Baron was saying, they have a spell on everybody. The spell is ending. It's going to be beautiful. And that's why they are in panic mode. And we know who they are.
Ian MalcolmSo I apologize for the rant. Let's go back to Tom or Joanne or Baron, anybody that wants to jump in. But I promise anybody else that comes in rudely like that other guy, I will make you look foolish.
Speaker 11I just want to say thank you, Ian, for being the voice that is so eloquent and articulate that we don't have. I really appreciate it.
Speaker 7Did Dom Dacumis disappear from X?
Ian MalcolmNo, Dom Dacumis passed away about a year ago.
Speaker 7Oh, my God. No wonder. Hey, Ian, I'm going to have to wrap it up.
Ian MalcolmYeah, of course, Barron. I completely appreciate it. I know we've run a little longer than expected. I know we have a couple more hands. So why don't we try to do a speed round? Joanne, let's go kind of individual by individual. We'll maybe go five, 10 more minutes, Barron, with some Q&A, and then we'll send everybody on their way if that works for you.
@joann_marieThat run was amazing, Ian. And thank you so much for your patience here. And thank you so much for joining us, Barron. And yeah, let's keep it short and sweet. Go ahead, Lala.
Speaker 12hi guys a long time no no see you guys um anyways yeah i was in the movie industry from 1992 to about 2005 ish when i had my my child but i was just supposed to be a background extra i didn't want any i never wanted to be in the spotlight or famous but even as a background extra i found i was getting invited to all the parties
Speaker 12And I was being like really exploited because they were kind of like using me for my friends because I lived in like West Vancouver. So I knew a lot of wealthy people. And I found that, oh yeah, invite your friends, invite your friends. And they're always doing like these backdoor deals behind my back and exploiting my friends for finances and things like that.
Speaker 12And they can tell who is going to play along and who's not because we go to these big, dinners and expensive dinners down on the water in Vancouver and stuff like that. And they would ask around the table, who's a player? And they'd say, is so-and-so a player? And they're like, yeah, yeah. And they'd go around the whole table and they'd be like, is Melissa a player?
Speaker 12And everyone would start laughing and say, no, Melissa's not a player. So basically they're like signaling to each other who to show their true side to. and who was the naive idiot basically which was me and um as a background extra i basically got exploited through all for all kinds of things they were just bringing us out for like to show off whereas before they would have like paid someone to go do modeling or something no they would just invite us to a party meanwhile all these other girls are there getting paid to be like eye candy or whatever and then
Speaker 12Another experience I had in the movie industry, which was terrifying for some reason, I auditioned for the part of Laura Croft in Tomb Raider, and I got the part. And I was like, at first I was kind of excited, and then all of a sudden I was terrified. I was absolutely, I don't know why, I was just terrified. And so I had to call my agent and cancel.
Speaker 12And my agent just had like a conniption, but she's like, why are you doing this? Blah, blah, blah, blah. And I pretty much got blacklisted after that. I didn't even barely get any extra work because I did not want to do this part. But my spidey senses went off so badly that I just did not want to do it. So they know if you are a person of integrity or a person who's going to.
Speaker 12be a player. And so I'll just land it there, but yeah, they're, they're very sneaky. I'll say that much, but that's only the higher ups.
@joann_marieYes. Thank you so much, Laila. It's, it's well, what goes on in Hollywood that people don't know about. All right. Next person. Wait, there is some, there's some, I gone. Hold on. It's Frank. No, Frank is gone. It's me. Elmo. Go ahead, miss.
Speaker 13Hi, everyone. I just want to say that everything that I've heard so far is completely correct in the sense that the whole industry is run by sanists. And Ian, you did such a fantastic job of just everything you said, like, let me be free. You're so articulate, so eloquent. We are all so blessed to have you on our side, and you're just so impressive.
Speaker 13But anyway, to get back to my story, I'm very close friends with someone who, she was a clinical psychotherapist in Beverly Hills for about 35 years, and she was very world-renowned. So she had about... every famous celebrity, rock star, you know, everyone was a patient of hers. She was very highly respected in her field, super, super successful.
Speaker 13She was also a film producer, film director, writer, singer, an expert body language, body language expert. She is a, like, court, expert, she analyzes the witnesses in court, so she does it all. However, she confirmed with me that, like, Hollywood is just the most disgusting cesspool you could imagine. That... You know, no one has any morals.
Speaker 13Everyone is on drugs. Everyone is hooking up with everyone. She mentioned to me something very interesting about the whole Me Too movement. How Harvey Weinstein, he, you know, everyone knows that story. But what I found interesting was... she mentioned all of these super well-known household name actresses that all voluntarily hooked up with these producers, directors.
Speaker 13Um, someone had mentioned before the casting couch myth is not really a myth. It's reality. Like she basically said the whole industry is pay to play. It's, um,
Speaker 13Can you hear me? Yes, you're back. Okay, sorry. I was getting a call. But anyway, so she said it's just a known thing. If you want a lead role or to be in a big blockbuster film, you're pretty much expected to hook up with the producer, director, whoever. So she was mentioning, I could care less. I could care less about these people, these...
Speaker 13these paid propaganda puppets, but in my eyes, they're all basically prostitutes. That's just how I view them, all just low-class, trashy prostitutes, honestly pathetic, no talent, no brains, no mind of their own, just doing what they're told. But, you know... She was naming all of these people, like, that have won Oscars and been in all these major films.
Speaker 13And she's just like, yeah, yeah. She hooked up with... Harvey, like that one hooked up with Harvey, like beautiful, stunning models. And I was like about to throw up. We were out to lunch and I was like, honestly feeling sick to my stomach. Like I couldn't imagine, I couldn't imagine for all the money in the world, hooking up with Harvey Weinstein for to be in some movie.
Speaker 13Like it was just so disgusting to me. And then another interesting thing she told me was, so she evaluates body language for women who accuse employers, whoever, of sexual abuse. And most people in general, I find, especially women, since this lady is a woman, would kind of be a little biased with the victim, being, you know, a little girl, whatever.
Speaker 13But what I found so interesting was she said that more often than not, These girls are just straight up lying. They view their employer, whether it's, you know, a doctor, lawyer, whoever, whoever it may be, they see them just as an opportunity to be a gold digger, you know, accuse them of whatever, sex, sexual harassment in the workplace, whatever the case may be.
Speaker 13But she, I love it because she'll call these girls out and she'll say, yeah, absolutely. You can tell a thousand percent by their body language, their nonverbal behavior, they're lying. They're making everything up. They see this as an opportunity to get some easy money. And it's really a sad thing. It is a sad thing because the whole Me Too movement, it discredits the real victims who have been abused.
Speaker 13Because they're afraid to speak up because they think that no one will believe them. That's one. And two, it's a sad thing for these men. These men who I see in workplaces, they're terrified to even say the wrong thing, look at someone the wrong way. They're so scared and terrified of being accused of inappropriate behavior.
Speaker 13And possibly losing their job, losing their licenses, whatever the case may be. But it's just, like, it's such a ridiculous, insane clown world that we're living in these days. But, you know, just to white pill everyone, you know, we just have to support each other. And... Just keep spreading the truth. My other account today, I found out it was nuked.
Speaker 13I guess they were angry that I was spreading too much truth around. So we all know the games they play with censorship. But that's the best thing we can do is just stay positive and continue to spread the truth and try to wake people up and support each other. we know that God is in control. And I really feel like, just like that last person popped in and said, oh, what are you guys, a Jew hater?
Speaker 13He exposed himself. They always expose himself. You mentioned Satan worship. Oh, you must hate Jews. Really? So you're exposing yourself. You're just telling me that the Jews worship Satan. Otherwise, why would you be offended? So it's really comical how they get so offended once you mention this Luciferian occult. Satan worship.
Speaker 13And then it's always the Jews who get offended about it. Oh, you're an anti-Semite, whatever. You're not even a real Semite. That word is meaningless. It's meaningless. We all know your tricks. The jig is up. So it's just almost comical the way that they're panicking and, you know, they're desperate. They're just so desperate now because too many people know.
Speaker 13Too many people know the truth. And once you know, and connect all the dots. And it might not be every Jew, but it's always a Jew. It's always a Jew behind every single crime, behind every single degenerate agenda that's trying to destroy our country.
@joann_marieOkay, sorry. That's it. That's it. I'll land it. You guys get my point.
Speaker 2No worries.
Speaker 13All right, I'm done. Thank you so much.
Ian Malcolmyet uh... thank you so much for the last really i don't think i want to make sure that uh... that we get a chance for these last two hands to go but before uh... before they do i want to give a big thank you uh... to baron this was absolutely fantastic ms ron grimm thank you so much for being here uh... for giving this background on hollywood uh... some of the hills uh... behind the scenes and and and for sharing with us your personal journey through this and and that's what's been
Ian Malcolmso wild is that you know we we talk about these issues uh... and we oftentimes get a lot of push back oh no the media isn't largely controlled by you know who the bolsheviks weren't largely you know who right now we speak with individuals like either uh... doctor auto yesterday who uh... knows from first-hand sources as well as from interviewing specific individuals from that portion of the world gave his telling of exactly what was taking place in russia and here we are today with an individual who's worked behind the camera he's worked producing these shows uh... amongst one of he was one of four producers and the other three happen to be from a tiny group and all i gave what it was strange coincidence that was uh... not to mention the personal invitation that he got to elicit
Ian Malcolmsexual activities with minors. And that should terrify everybody, that these things are that normalized, that this individual happened to experience that, which goes to show perhaps the prevalence of that kind of absurdity within Hollywood. And so, Baron, I just want to thank you so much. If you want to share any final words before you take off, certainly please feel free to.
Ian MalcolmAnd again, just one more time, I want to thank you on behalf of myself and everybody that was in here listening to you.
Speaker 3Do you guys hear him?
Speaker 2I appreciate it. It was fun. First time. So it was cool. No, I guess all I say is, you know, you know, the world's really weird. It's kind of really weird and scary. But personally, it's the worst, the weirder things get, the worst things get brought me closer to God. And, you know, just, you know, life is short. Enjoy your family, your friends and the natural world.
Speaker 2You know, so I could tell you, you know, that's all you can do. Keep your sanity.
@joann_marieAmazing. Thank you so much for joining us, Barron. Really nice meeting you. And yeah, guys, please give him a follow. He's really, really cool. And yeah, thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. And let's go through a couple. Oh, sorry, Barron, go for it.
Speaker 2Oh, no, I was just taking off. I got to hit the dinner.
Ian MalcolmYou're the best. We'll certainly enjoy. Thank you so much, Barron, again, for stopping by, for being part of this. And I will be I'll be working with Valak. to try and put together some AI content from each one of these spaces that we're doing to get a little snippet and AI video for those speakers that have kind of taken their time and shared it with all of us as a little thank you.
Ian MalcolmSo I'll be working with him, and I'm sure there's a ton of great content that we have in here. So I just want to thank you again. And with that, Joanne, let's go to some final little hands. And if we could just suggest that everybody be a little bit brief as we kind of go through these final hands, just so that we can wrap things up in the next 10 minutes or so.
@joann_marieYes, thank you. I just wanted to add something really fast, and it's a theory that I have. Okay, so when I lived in Hollywood, I saw all the sexual harassment. Like, it is there. It's 100% of the time everywhere. So I do believe a lot of these people, and I think what happened with the Me Too movement, and I know people are going to get angry, but I think...
@joann_mariethey were uncovering so many of these like sexual predators that then they choose that what happened with Marlene Manson and what's his name? The other one, Jack Sparrow, the person. Okay, whatever, that actor. Johnny Depp. Yeah, with Johnny Depp to put the lid back on, you know, because there hasn't been any... accusations out anymore and I know those those things do happen there I saw it I like everyone in Hollywood has had multiple experiences like that and now um so I think it was just a big sign up I think um yeah they put the lid back on
@joann_marieBut no, it does happen. Like 100% of the time. I'm not going to talk about other industries because I didn't experience it anywhere else. But over there, it's literally 100% of the time you're sexually harassed. And it's just horrific. But anyway, thank you so much. All right. It's... Florida Joker is not here. Sorry. Conscious.
@joann_marieNo, not here. JPL's also not here. Okay, I'm just going to pick someone else. So yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 14Hey, afternoon, everyone. Big fan of Ian. I always summon my inner Ian Malcolm when making comments now to make sure I protect myself from accusing people of anything and just ask the question. But four years ago, that actually led me down a rabbit hole and got me where I am today, which gets me canceled quite a bit. because I make the mistake of not asking a question rather than making an accusation.
Speaker 14So always ask the question, who's in charge of it? And that will send you down quite a bit of rabbit holes. And it sent me down a rabbit hole. Five years ago, we bought a movie theater company stock and it sent me down a rabbit hole. Who owns the theaters? Who owns the production studios? Why did this happen? Why did they try to take this over?
Speaker 14So just a very quick synopsis. Movie theaters are the largest per square foot business in the entire world, per square foot. The hardest retail space to occupy is movie theater space. So production studios have to be pumping out movies. And theaters actually produce more visitors than every single major league sport combined.
Speaker 14Every single major league sport, hockey, baseball, football, you name it, soccer, major league soccer, rugby, all of those combined, more people go see movies in a year than every other sport. But this is not worth the interesting. The interesting part is that the only... The biggest foot traffic business in the world, movie theaters, was closed during COVID, and they were going to shut it down.
Speaker 14Now, you could say it was for protection or whatever, but a lot of people in our industry believe that because of the emergence of artificial intelligence, to bring it back to artificial intelligence, and the development of new ideas, the bankers had to control the movie theaters. So they had to destroy... the public ownership of that company, and then usurp that company's ownership through bankruptcy court.
Speaker 14And by taking it over through bankruptcy, they would own the content and control the content that qualified for being in every single movie theater for the rest of time. Because they would own the biggest movie theater chain in the entire world, which would allow them to consume every other streaming site, every other movie...
Speaker 14theater industry, and it would allow them to snowball into something much larger. Now, artificial intelligence is creating really crappy shorts and films and things like that. But inevitably, we're going to see artificial intelligence movies. And that takes control away from the production studios, which are backed by major banks, and puts it in the hands of storytellers.
Speaker 14Storytellers that could be like, very well-spoken intellectuals like ian malcolm and that terrifies the living out of hollywood imagine someone telling a historical uh or giving someone a story through history and having ian malcolm and malcolm tell it from their point of view and illustrate it and and use those illustrations and use those prompts to create a movie to illustrate an idea and then sell that movie in theaters to make money
Speaker 14it would counter the propaganda machine that they created, and it would give them no control over who puts things in theaters. So when you think of AI, think of being the new production studio, the new storyteller, the new editor, because that is what you are going into the future. And without their control of the movie theater scene, without them controlling that, you become the storyteller, you become the propagandist, you become the writer, you become the illustrator of these ideas.
Speaker 14And they're very terrified of that happening. It traces back to not just AMC Theaters and bankrupting them and trying to bankrupt that company. It comes back to major institutions, BlackRock, Vanguard, Citadel, State Street Capital, Vanguard, All of these people piling on to try and get this thing into bankruptcy as fast as they possibly can.
Speaker 14The Writers' Strikes, the Film Actors Guild Strikes went on simultaneously for the longest time in over 60 years. Not only did they have two years of production delays, they had nine months of Writers' Strikes and Film Actors Guild Strikes to try and hold out to stop the public, the American people. The one company in the world that is owned by the American people is AMC Movie Theaters.
Speaker 14And they want it so badly. They want to take this thing over so badly and bankrupt it. Because we own 50% of all the propaganda they make. And people don't even know it. People don't know that they're being forced propaganda. But we decided if they're going to force propaganda down our throat, we might as well make 50% of it.
Speaker 14And if we enjoy watching movies, we might as well make 50% of it. Well, we stumbled down this... rabbit hole that you would call the Ian Malcolm rabbit hole, which is just ask the question, where does the money flow? Who owns it? Who's producing this? Who's making this? Because I watch 90 films a year, and then all of a sudden I turn around and go, what was that woke bullshit?
Speaker 14Or who decided to put this trans person in here? Or why are there so many interracial couples? What the hell is going on in my movies? Why is Hitler black? Or whatever. Why is the King of England in a wheelchair? You start to ask yourself these questions and all of a sudden you stumble down the rabbit hole. That they're basically retelling history.
Speaker 14They're turning you off to the stories that you want to learn from. And then they're putting you on stories that they want you to believe are real. And then they brainwash, they wash an entire history, a generation historically that doesn't know their history, that doesn't understand anything. They've erased World War II.
Speaker 14They've erased... anything from that generation. And they just kind of skip over it. It's glossed over as this guy was really bad and he had nothing good to offer and all he wanted to do was kill these people. And if you question that, you're a bad guy. And then we get to sci-fi and fantasy and the changing of people, right?
Speaker 14And the multicultural movement and all these things. Well, they can't control that come 2027 and 2028. When you're the author, the writer, the producer, and the screenwriter, now all of a sudden you get to produce your own movies. And if there's an authentic Viking, he's going to be ethnically European. If there's an ethnically Russian person, he's going to be Russian.
Speaker 14English people are going to be English. And this terrifies them because then they can't spread the multicultural lie onto these countries and make people believe that it always existed because it never existed. Their biggest fear is artificial intelligence and people like this guy, this host, who's very special, by the way, who's taught us a lot just to question things in the right way.
Speaker 14And he's given you that opportunity to ask those questions and just go and be that person too. What's so wrong about asking questions? Well, I'll tell you what's wrong with it. You start going down into places that they don't want you to go. And that terrifies them more than anything. And it gets you canceled. And get your accounts banned.
Speaker 14So be careful with that. But also, don't be afraid to be a creator, a producer, a writer of beautiful stories and tell your history and illustrate it properly. Because we are in control of the future. That's a little white pill for you guys. Have a great night. Thanks, Ian.
Ian MalcolmNo, I just want to take a moment and just thank you for that and for two reasons. Number one is for the incredibly... just humbling words, I think, is the one that comes to mind. And I say that because not only are they very warming on my side, but I also can appreciate the sincerity of them, of this mission, and of the truth that, look, I'm just trying to do what I think best to try and bring truth to those that are willing to listen to it about issues that I think everybody should be thinking about.
Ian MalcolmAnd the thing that's so weird is finding this ever-growing community in doing so that want the exact same, right? We're all essentially out in this wilderness. It's cold. It's bitter. It's ever diminishing in terms of the quality of life that everybody is experiencing. And we want to know why. And more than anything, in terms of the why, we want to understand why the people or the motivations that are, say, withering those qualities of life, why do they always lie about it happening?
Ian MalcolmWhy do they seem to take some kind of joy in its occurrence? And why do they insist that we participate in the lie by not only not noticing it, but by celebrating things that are inverse of what we know to be true? And it's so weird because the more that we grow and that we peacefully, calmly articulate these truths, the more people that just see us out in the wilderness with our little torches.
Ian MalcolmRight. And I'm just a small account. There's a lot of people in here, just small accounts. We're all small little torches, but we're torches. You know, some of us might just be a little match or a lighter, but there is an ever growing bonfire that's in the distance that we're all going to be part of. And there's some big heroic individuals that have been in this like Dan Bilzerian for a long time that have taken a whole bunch of slings and arrows from the machine for having the audacity to speak out against it.
Ian MalcolmIn spite of all of the hate and the economic loss that I know that he endured, as do a whole lot of other people that talk about these things. And we could go from Bill Zarian to Myron Gaines to Kanye West and everybody in between. Candace Owens is now getting it firsthand. Right. And the thing that's wildest about it is with the exception of Bill Zarian, a lot of these people aren't even white.
Ian MalcolmAnd why do I bring that up? It's because it's the white people. who have been pushed the hardest by not only the censorship, but also by the self-loathing propaganda that's been shoved in all of our faces. We've basically been told that if we don't parrot the lies, if we don't celebrate our humiliation, that we are the bigots.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I mentioned that because as people start to become more and more aware of these truths, that again, people like Candace and Kanye, at least for a time being until he got taken on his tour to Israel, if I'm not mistaken, and had to sit next to the rabbi and say, woe is me. I'm so sorry. Please let my ex-wife Kim Kardashian sell her skims clothing, which is literally just skin tight yoga pants in Israel and maybe get visitation rights to his child.
Ian MalcolmThat seems to be like what was probably taking place, at least in my opinion. Right. But there are people that are out there that are willing to speak the truth. And I mentioned the let's say the racial aspect, because I can promise all of you that when people finally overcome the fear of anti-Semitism, of racism, of all the other slurs from the television, from Ben Shapiro, from every little AI bot that's on this platform.
Ian MalcolmOnce you just are indifferent to them and you put on the armor, whether it be of God or nobility or truth, you become immune. to all those slings and arrows. And what's going to be beautiful is as we become that brigade of individuals with our little torches out in the dark wilderness, more and more people will see it.
Ian MalcolmThey'll be inspired. They'll want to become part of it. And the next thing you know, not only will it be the righteous thing, it will be the cool thing to do, which is why you see the younger generations flocking to Fuentes. Ben Shapiro does his best of clips. of Nick Fuentes trying to portray him as something that perhaps he's not.
Ian MalcolmAnd younger people watch the clips and they're like, that guy's pretty cool. I want to go listen to him some more. And I'm not giving, let's say, unlimited praise to Fuentes because there's some things that he's done that I can't quite understand or comprehend, right? Maybe we should question him. You should certainly question me.
Ian MalcolmYou should question everybody. But if you don't question that, which is truth, and instead you just share it and you celebrate it, just like with this room, with this space, with these people that we are continuously building in our little intellectual army, people will gravitate towards it. And so I just want to thank you so much for those kind words and also for the inspirational kind of segment that you layered in there, which is exactly what I'm just trying to build upon right now, right?
Ian MalcolmIf we all do our little part, we become invincible. Think of all of the great heroes. whether it's from Frodo Baggins or Luke Skywalker, you know what's weird about the blowing up of the Death Star? It wouldn't have happened, of all people, without Han Solo, the guy who's portrayed as the most self-centered individual in the film until the very end, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd so why do I bring that up? Because none of us are the Jedi, none of us are Neo, none of us are invincible. We need everybody to do their little part. And if I do my little piece, then it makes Dan Bilzerian's more effective, which makes Tucker Carlson and whatever little piece he's playing right now in this thing more effective, right?
Ian MalcolmWe all just have to do our little parts because they can have their castles and their trebuchets and they can have their mountain like in Game of Thrones that is their big champion. He has no chance against the army of white walkers that we are becoming, which curiously also had blue eyes for what it's worth for any of those that might be out there and of that persuasion.
Ian MalcolmRight. We are invincible. They can only lie so much. They can only spread those lies so far. And if we just whisper the truths and we are those little torches in the wilderness, more people will come to our circles, come to these ideas. They'll listen in for a few moments. And in just three or five or 10 or 15 minutes, whatever it takes, it will undo years, decades or maybe a century worth of propaganda.
Ian MalcolmThe guy is 100 years old and says they might be on to something. And so we are unstoppable. This movement is unbeatable. We will take back the reins of control out of the hands of psychopathic liars who also seem and appear to be pedophiles or at least blackmailed by them. And there just happens to be this weird overlap where a lot of them happen to be either pedophilic or sexual perverts and predators like in Hollywood or like with Epstein or they're people that are connected to them like, oh, I don't know, maybe Donald Trump.
Ian MalcolmAnd I say that not as a slur. I'm not saying that I know that he was on Epstein Island, although we certainly know that he had connections to him. But we can also look at his literal vice president, J.D. Vance, who's funded by Peter Thiel, who had the company Carbine 911 that on its board had Ed Hood Barack and was financing Jeffrey Epstein.
Ian MalcolmIt's literally like first and second degree separation for Trump, for Clinton, for Biden. It's like seven degrees of Jeffrey Epstein. It's unbelievable. It's not Kevin Bacon. It's Epstein Island. They have blackmailed everybody, and we know what Epstein Island was. We know who it was done for. And we can certainly see that if it was the CIA, well, then what has the United States been doing with that information to get the upper hand on anyone else?
Ian MalcolmCan anyone explain that to me? How has the United States been able to boss around other nations as it absorbs hundreds of thousands of migrants from China? As it literally just bends over backwards for Israel, as it sends countless billions of dollars in bombs to Ukraine. We are funding the destruction of our own lands while celebrating literal sexual perverts and pedophiles, which we know in Israel to be.
Ian MalcolmBecause Tom Alexandrovich was caught in Las Vegas in a pedophile ring. That is undoubtedly true. He works in cybersecurity for Benjamin Netanyahu. He fled to Israel, where he is being protected, it seems. Right? It's just absurd. We are watching as our elected leaders sepulchre our societies while demanding that we're bigots and anti-Semites for daring to have the audacity to inquire as to why that suicidal effort might be taken on.
Ian Malcolmand why our houses become unaffordable, why our food becomes filled with mRNA, and why we're suggested by Bill Gates that we should celebrate the idea of meatless meat and all this other stuff that obviously is not only poisoning our bodies, but poisoning our minds via Hollywood, via technology, and all these other things.
Ian MalcolmSo let's use these platforms to magnify our voices as best we can. Let's do our little parts. And I promise everybody here That if you just regularly put in the little bit of effort, you will be amazed at where we find ourselves a couple of years, if not just a couple of months down the road, because I think the midterms are going to speak volumes.
Ian MalcolmAnd we're probably looking down the reality of a 2028 election cycle in which literally the presidential debates will be infused with questions about subservience to Jews and Israel. That is almost certainly going to happen. And I would have told you two years ago that that is absolutely impossible. Yet here we are. So grab your torch, grab your match, grab your lighter, whatever you can do to add kindling to the fire because we are absolutely going to win.
Ian MalcolmI can promise you all that. And so Joanne, Tom, back to you guys.
@joann_marieThat was amazing. There is some amazing rants in this space that I cannot wait to listen again. So guys, if you guys didn't hear it, please, it's recorded. So listen to it again because it's fucking brilliant. And thank you so much, Ian. It's my honor being here. All right. Game of Thrones. Go ahead, sir. Welcome.
Speaker 15Oh, my dear. How are you? I just came out of a room where... I was vehemently attacked by a troll because I exposed the grifters like Joel Osteen and Pastor Hagee who says we must support Israel, the chosen people. I mean, geez. And then he called me a hypocrite because I only believed in parts of the Bible. I schooled that son of a bitch.
Speaker 15with Kazarians and Ashkenazi. I went right down his throat with the Polish Netanyahu. I shut him up so fast. I said, listen, man, I'm a Christian that evangelizes. How do you say it? Evangelizes. That's the verb. Jesus, I'm tired. Who speaks about the good news, okay, to other people? That doesn't mean I'm a Pastor Hagee or a Joe Lowstein who says, send me your shekels.
Speaker 15Send me all your money, people, everybody. God bless America. It's bizarre, guys. The more you become in tune and the hotter you are over the target, the more people will come after you. And when you realize it's not the people, it's the fact that we are either good or evil. We're disseminators of good, or it's either concord or confusion.
Speaker 15And the sons of bitches out there who are laying in wait to entrap you, beware of them. Be cautious around them. Be certain in what you say and what you do. Take a breath. None of these people pay your rent, pay your food bill, you know, pay to have a roof over your head. For crying out loud, be strong in your conviction.
Speaker 15Know your maker. Know your God. It's funny, I look at the title of this thing here, Ian, and I see Inside Evil Hollywood with director Baron Von Grimm. I really and truly, there's two guys I trust when you talk about Hollywood. One is Mel Gibson. The other one is Isaiah Washington, also known as Disruptor on this platform.
Speaker 15Few and far between. And I live 10 miles away from the beast. I'm in the canyons down here. In SoCal, it's very quiet in my neck of the woods in my neighborhood. It's peaceful. We have birdies. We're in a canyon where there's just nature, nature all around. So it's really lovely. But I just want to say, guys, keep up the fight for good.
Speaker 15Don't go out to try to pick a fight, but guarantee no one thing. You're going to find people who want to ensnare you. They want to re... rewrite your script. They want to tell you what you meant. There's going to be all kinds of stuff coming at us, guys. We're either fighting for the good or fighting for the evil. Fuck this Democrat-Republican shit.
Speaker 15I give up. I give up on Trump. I give up on all these sons of bitches. Honestly, live life with truth, loyalty, honesty. Bingo, bango, bongo. Screw the frickin' labels. Be done with them, guys. I follow most of you that are up here on this panel. I would appreciate a follow back. We're not enemies. If we're on this, you know, we're in this room for a reason.
Speaker 15It's to learn and it's to disseminate the good news, not to foster bad. So let's get together. God bless you all. Have a good evening. Thank you for bringing me up here.
@joann_marieYeah, sorry, go ahead, Tom.
Speaker 6Yeah, I just wanted to briefly comment on how ridiculous it was the other day, a couple of weeks ago, we had these pastors and evangelical speakers, I don't know if they were in Israel or had some pro-Israeli function, but one of them was talking about the fact that, I'll do my best southern impression, I doubt it will be good enough to merit trying this, but I'll give it a whirl either way.
Speaker 6No, but the guy's up there, he says, you know, the Jewish people are... a spatial treasure you know i mean all these bizarre efforts to use the same passion with same faux passion with which they preach a lot of these guys to add a level of prestige to the concept or idea that jewish people are more special or more sacred than everybody else it's pretty unbelievable watching that happen and you ask yourself how much longer will these people even have a career at this point
Speaker 6with things kind of heading in the direction that they're heading with respect to people waking up to what's going on. And when it comes to Ian's rant, that was a beautiful, beautiful rant about a number of issues that Ian touched on. And what I'd like to do is draw everyone's attention briefly to the nest. And I don't necessarily suggest you listen to it now, but there's a video up there by a brilliant young man called AG who breaks down in a way only he could what's going on with COVID in a way that I think is very useful.
Speaker 6So please feel free to take a look at that later on. I doubt anyone will regret having done so. And with that, let's go to AJ. AJ, please.
Speaker 7Yeah, thanks very much. I'll be brief because I know you want to wrap up, but just a couple thoughts. I love what Game of Thrones had to say. I just find it fascinating that, you know, people like Ted Cruz and Pastor Heggy, they're so keen on the Old Testament verse. And then when Jesus came to... to teach us what's really going on.
Speaker 7He told the Jews in Matthew 21, 43, if I remember correctly, after he explained the parable of the tenants, he said, he straight up told them to their face, the kingdom will be taken from you and given to a new generation, AKA the Gentiles, that will bear much fruit. And I just... I just find it fascinating. Jesus telling the Jews, Hey, you guys aren't the thing anymore, uh, because you rejected me and you think I'm burning into, you know, you know, you know what I'm going to say.
Speaker 7And it's just these pastors that they're all, they're all keen on that. You know, they, they pick and choose what they want to believe. And you got to believe a pack is, uh, or maybe it's not a pack, but they're definitely getting some money from Israel somehow to say that. I can't believe that they would be that clueless, um, to not know Matthew 21, 43.
Speaker 7The other thing is with, uh, Trump on the Epstein list. Yeah, I'm, I think we've all been following Elon, right? We talked about movies today. And in movies, there's something called a character arc where you watch the character in the beginning and maybe they're naive like Neo in the Matrix. And then he goes through his character arc and he learns his special abilities and his powers and his mission in life.
Speaker 7And he comes out a hero at the end. So that's called a character arc. Well, Elon being from South Africa, he's on his own like arc. of disillusionment with american politics i would say because you know he probably didn't know a lot of you know what's what you probably didn't know coming from another whole other country probably wasn't all clued in on how corrupt our political system is and so him being one of the ultimate um what's the word harbingers of truth and like the most prolific truth tellers
Speaker 7That, in my opinion, can't be bought. He's already a multi-billionaire. He's got a pretty happy life. I don't think it can be bought. So if anyone's going to tell the truth or tweet the truth, I think it would be Elon. So when Elon posted that Trump is on the list, I believe him. And then if he shows up, he apologizes a day later and shows up in the Oval Office with a black eye.
Speaker 7I think something's going on there. I think maybe Elon can't be bought, but he can be threatened. They can say, hey, Elon, you don't want your grandkids to end up in our torture chambers in the underground basements of Hollywood, do you? Then you need to apologize for what you said about Trump. My guess is something like that is what happened.
Speaker 7So I've lost all faith in Trump at this point. How long can a game of 5-D chess possibly last? So I'll wrap it up there. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmYeah, really well stated there, AJ. And brought up two more speakers familiar with KIPS. and then uh... also with casey and and wanted to try and make sure that that anybody who wanted to uh... join in with a couple comments that they got a chance to and uh... so if we could guys keep them them relatively brief but on the subject uh... justin kinda meandering through uh... hollywood and had a really interesting conversation earlier with baron von graham uh... who who has been behind the camera in front of the camera uh... produced
Ian Malcolmvarious shows and gave a really interesting little inside glimpse into what it's like. So for anybody that came in a little bit late, might be interesting to go back, re-listen to these. Obviously, they're always going to be recorded. But with that being said, let's go to Casey, and then we'll go to Kips for a final little remark here.
Speaker 16Yeah, thanks. I'm glad you guys were staying open. I wanted to come in earlier, but couldn't get around. But I was trafficked through Hollywood by my Hollywood mom, and I was trafficked specifically to Dean Martin. So there's now a declassified report. that is um that proves that frank sinatra dean martin jerry lewis and sammy davis jr were running an fbi operation they were tasked with bringing the italian and the jewish mafias into hollywood to be blackmailed and this happened throughout my childhood so i started out hanging out in freemason lodges at about the age of seven
Speaker 16I sang on stage with my mom, kind of like the Partridge family at age seven, eight, nine. And I was passed around to the elites after I was made to perform very sexually suggestive song, even at the age of seven at the muscular dystrophy telethons. My mother's an MK ultra survivor, so she was a honeypot for the CIA. And I've been...
Speaker 16talking about my life story for a number of years, but I've been providing free support to survivors for 30 years. And I've done 51 full feature interviews about my history. So now I have a lot of validation, a lot of declassified FBI reports on my page. And what I do know is this, that the Hollywood elites are the arm of the shadow government, the cultists that intended to bring the United States into their control under the new world order agenda.
Speaker 16It was always controlled under Freemason contractual arrangements. So through infiltration, not through invasion. And we are there at that precipice. So throughout my childhood, it was known to me that the elites would rule the world, that we were supposedly the elites and that the average man couldn't handle their affairs.
Speaker 16And so that's why we were required to step in because we were the ones that worked from sunup to sundown, honing our crafts. And that made us special and all that bullshit. But what I can tell you specifically is that All of your politicians are in the club. So my brother's a professional comedian that edited The Aristocrats, went all the way to Sundance in 2005.
Speaker 16George Carlin was his best friend in 2008. When he passed away, he featured in that film Aristocrats. And that film Aristocrats was 100 of our most beloved comedians talking about satanic ritual abuse, incest, bestiality, and things of that nature and making a joke out of it. And so I encourage anyone to go look up that movie and watch it.
Speaker 16But yeah, all of our politicians are part of the shadow government. They're placed in these positions. So they've all been, you know, if you want to say, oh, he's good, he's bad. No, this is all a show for, the entire system is corrupt. It's run by the occult. The Freemasons keep those contracts. They're all managed globally.
Speaker 16And this has been in our congressional records since January 10th, 1963. how we were going to be brought into submission under the new world order and the muslim brotherhood would be the 14th bloodline that was able to be the foot soldiers during the black awakening which is what they they call it for the programmed individuals under mk ultra but they would be the full foot soldiers to terrify humanity into their houses for the final takedown into digital transition so
Speaker 16I'll end there. I know you guys wanted to shore up your space here, but I just thank you for giving me an opportunity to speak. And anytime I have an opportunity to shed a light on it, I'm more than happy to do so.
Speaker 3All right. Thank you so much, Casey.
@joann_marieAnd I'm really sorry about what happened to you. I am sure you're in a better place now. And thank you so much for speaking up. All right.
Speaker 3Keep labyrinth. Go ahead.
Speaker 17Hey, thanks, Joanne. You know, as the Baron alluded to earlier, how kind of crazy modernity seems to have gotten. I think our world appears so bizarre, so insane because the Jews are the ultimate obscurantists. So I appreciate you guys, Ian, Joanne, and Baron. I appreciate all attempts to try to lift the veil. I think I probably first noticed in the 90s the way
Speaker 17Because when you think about the television, it's kind of like they're hitting you more than one way. They're hitting you with the advertisers, which, of course, are trying to link their products to your unconscious desires, which that alone is pretty insidious. But if you also think about the programming of the TV shows themselves, they seem to be, through the course of the day, all they're trying to do is form a consensus.
Speaker 17consensus narrative, and it doesn't even matter if it's true. It just matters if enough parents keep saying it over and over again. And I noticed a while back how we don't identify with all the shows on television. So they'll have the narrative on the morning news shows. They'll have it on the women's shows, like the views and the talk.
Speaker 17They'll have it on the evening news. It'll be woven into the prime time televisions shows. And then you'll have the late night comedians, you know, standing there dressed up like a vaccine or something, you know? So they just, it's the barrage of it, where if they hit you so many times and so many times, you think you're out of line.
Speaker 17You know, it's like those old studies. where people would actually say that they would put five people in a room and four people would guess something that was a lie and the fifth person would usually go along with the lie too because he didn't want to stand out from the crowd. So it's real insidious the way they do that.
Speaker 17And the way it works, you know, downloading your unconscious below the level of choice and consent, that's pretty damn sneaky too. So that goes back to the fact that they are the ultimate obscurantists and you always just kind of got to be on guard for it. Just to close with, I would say that it's a fun exercise that I like sometimes is to go...
Speaker 17and watch old cartoons like the old old merry metal melodies or the old tv shows and just see what kind of narratives were woven you know in their time and and of course we'd have to guess about what the rest of the tv was being shown during the course of the day for those people but you can you can guess they were all parroting the same thing the good news is when i look at the um ratings
Speaker 17Their ratings in the 50s were better than the 60s, and the ratings in the 60s were better than the 70s, and on and on and on. So everybody has either gotten hip to it or we've moved on from that. So I'll let you all close it down. Again, I appreciate you guys.
Speaker 7That was called the Ash Experiment, by the way. The one guy is an odd man, and he went against his own conscience looking at the line length, and he'd rather fit in than be correct. The ASH, A-S-H-E, if I'm not mistaken.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and look, that's the unfortunate dilemma that we find ourselves in because so many people look around for social signaling to try and figure out what it is that they should support, that they should like, that they should subscribe to, buy, how they should vote, right? People do not like doing that which they believe against the status quo or that is perceived as weird or odd or what have you.
Ian MalcolmAnd that's why the television... has to try and normalize all the degeneracy through quote-unquote reality TV, right? They put up the most ludicrous of norms and then jam them in your face and make you think that it's you who is the odd man out because you don't want to have casual sex with the crazy person down the street that's also doing heroin because they lost their job, which is all produced by and curiously starring, more often than not, one group of people that want to normalize that.
Ian MalcolmThey want to get rid of the nuclear family. They want to get rid of religion. They want to get rid of the history. They want to get rid of your statues, literally the history. They want to take all that away from you, just like they did with the four olds in China, so that they can bring in the shiny news, which are just going to be new totalitarian measures to ensure that you are incapable of preserving that, which might have been beautiful in the past.
Ian MalcolmBut that is why we are here. That's why we're going to keep speaking out against these these truths, against these evils. And that's why folks like Casey, I'm so glad that we brought you up here, that you were able to share that little piece of history. Right. Might have to do an entire space and unpack that. And she put into the purple pill for what it's worth documentation supporting those claims, as do almost every speaker that comes up onto this panel.
Ian MalcolmRight. I do not try to allow anything to go. And even for what it's worth to those that would say I'm a Jew hater. Ironically, it was me who was saying, let's not name specific names unless things are public information to try and protect not only ourselves, but also those other people and their reputations. Right. Because anything that's hearsay, I don't want to support.
Ian MalcolmIf you've got factual information, let's put it out there. Let's share it. Let's expose the liars and the psychopaths and the pedophiles when we come across them. Right. Let's try to strive for the good and let's always do it from a position of righteousness. It's very easy to get down into the mud. Right. To slur those that are slurring you.
Ian MalcolmLet's rise above that as best we can. And I know that this device, this app, it can get extremely toxic. That is by design for what it's worth. They want you to hate. They want to give you the two minutes of hate straight out of Orwell. They want you to hate others, other races, other politics, other parts of the past.
Ian MalcolmThey just don't want you to notice who is behind most, if not almost all. of those issues, of those problems. That's why I continuously just point to the root issue. Can you imagine if you went into a hospital and you said, I'm bleeding? And they said, oh, okay, well, let's get you a bucket for the blood. Make sure we don't make a bigger mess on the floor.
Ian MalcolmThat's a pretty terrible way to approach a problem because you have to deal with the symptom and the cause. You can't just deal with the blood. You have to seize and seal the wound, right? You can't merely treat the symptoms of the flu. It's nice, too. It'll make you feel better. We got to go get antibiotics to actually attack the virus, perhaps.
Ian MalcolmAnd we have a virus in our system, in our society. It is destroying everything. And we know that because we can look at not only, let's say, employment numbers. We can look at poverty numbers. We can look at depression numbers. We can look at suicide numbers, alcoholism, drug overdoses, SSRI dependency, everything. a once homogenous society that was doing really well with people who are really happy and that were so patriotic they were willing to go across the Atlantic Ocean to go fight a foreign war for a foreign group of people, not just in World War II, not just in World War I, but all the way up to today.
Ian MalcolmIt was Americans that flew over Iran and dropped bombs on a foreign nation. Those people thought they were patriots. They've been bamboozled. Right. But there was a nation that once was once really beautiful. Two continents. In fact, there were seven continents, for what it's worth, that were beautiful because the world's a beautiful place.
Ian MalcolmBut the people who destroyed Russia, who destroyed Rome, are now destroying Western Europe. They are destroying the United States. They will destroy everything. They will destroy Mexico. And we saw what the people are doing in response to that. They're saying we don't want this. We don't want the one in 50,000 female Jews.
Ian MalcolmI guess it'd actually be one in 100,000 because it's a female in this case. Let's add to the odds. The one in 100,000 female Jews of Mexico that becomes president. They don't want it. The UK doesn't want Starmer. What do they have in common? The world does not want this. It wants to get better and it will get better because we are going to continue doing our part.
Ian MalcolmSo we talked about earlier. We're going to continue waking up more and more people. The machine is going to get more and more erratic. Ben Shapiro is going to go on epic rants. He's going to break down, probably into tears. That's not an advocation for violence. Rather, it's laughing at how laughable his position has become.
Ian MalcolmYou want to be MAGA. You want to be an American patriot. Support the impoverishing of your country. While I literally laugh that you can't afford to live here anymore and suggest that if you can't, you should just leave. That is Ben Shapiro, a person that acts like that, that behaves like that. I would define them as a traitor.
Ian MalcolmHe is a traitor to the interests of the United States of America. It's not poor Americans who can't afford to live in a system that's been destroyed by central banking and globalism at the hands of disproportionately Jews that should leave. It's the people that architected that, those that celebrate it. Those that propagandize it and those that would slur the people in this room that dare to point it out as the traitors.
Ian MalcolmNo, we are not. We are patriots. We are heroes because there's a whole lot of people who don't feel comfortable talking about these issues because they are that suppressed. They are that censored. And the people that we're talking about own that much of everything that they can basically lull most people into subservience, into slavery.
Ian Malcolmwhich curiously, we could go back to the transatlantic slave trade run by the same people who have enslaved peoples all over the world. And we just talked yesterday about how it was done to the Germans in Russia in scenarios that were, as far as I can tell, as bad as the work camps, at least according to some of the documentation, not only in the United States, but arguably even in Germany.
Ian MalcolmBut you never hear anything about that. And perhaps that's because Hollywood, as we discussed today, is controlled by shadowy figures that might be pedophiles who disproportionately, based on the story we heard anyway, are Jews. And not only are they Jews, they're also in many cases apparently gay Jews. And look, if people are going to be gay, you be gay.
Ian MalcolmYou go do you. As long as you're not doing evil. Evil to children, evil to society, or by selling out the one that you live in for a foreign interest, which makes you, by definition, guilty of treason. That is what is coming. And these people that sit at the top, like Ben Shapiro, who don't want that to happen, they don't want these truths to come out, well, they can continue calling us whatever they want.
Ian MalcolmBut as Megyn Kelly starts kind of asking questions and Tucker Carlson begins to answer them, well, then more and more people are going to be able to easily spot the traitors from the patriots, the evil from the good, and the villains from the heroes. And that's what we are. That's not a pat on our back. That's not self-aggrandizing.
Ian MalcolmIt's just describing those that act for the good, which is what we are doing. That's why we're not up here for money. Nobody's out here passing around their little tin like Joel Osteen, who was referenced a little earlier. Buy my book. It'll get you into heaven. No, it won't, Joel. And I have reason to believe that you are also Jewish.
Ian MalcolmWeird. the guy who is advocating for some Christian values, I suppose. He has a book talking about the power of believing in yourself. Well, why would I believe in myself, Joel? Shouldn't I believe in a creator? Isn't that what you're there to suggest? Why would you try and tell your audience that the power of manifestation is actually the higher power?
Ian MalcolmBecause last time I checked, it was Jesus Christ. Or at least that's what you think you would be pushing unless perhaps you're a Jew. who just like Ben Shapiro is deceiving your audience. So we're going to continue talking about these things as patriotically as we can. And the craziest part about it is this isn't on behalf of England or France or Germany or Russia or America or Mexico.
Ian MalcolmIt is on behalf of all of us. And that's why they are inevitably going to lose. Because speaking of storytelling, going all the way back to Orwell. He looked around. He couldn't understand because they were all so programmed. And he said, if only they realized their own strength, it would be like a horse shaking off the flies.
Ian MalcolmThat's what we are. We are a thoroughbred. And that's why the fleas, the parasites and the flies that are the oppressors don't want us to recognize how beautiful, how spectacular, how brave, how strong. We can be. That's why they demoralize you at every turn. They sick in your body. They sick in your mind. They sick in your soul.
Ian MalcolmAnd we are sick and tired of it. So I promise you, we are all going to win. We are going to make the world better. We're not going to hate anything. We're going to love that which should be loved. And we're going to watch and witness as the evil demands that we not do so while they cry out. Well, they demand like a vampire with the sun coming over the horizon that we protect them and shield them after they've bitten into the necks and sucked the blood of everything that we hold dear.
Ian MalcolmNot going to happen. We don't need any bullets because our silver bullet is just the truth. And that's why 2000 years ago, they hated a guy who had the audacity to speak it. That's why they took a bullet into the side of JFK. That's perhaps why they took down two beautiful buildings. There's actually three for those that paid attention.
Ian MalcolmThis is going to end. It is going to be beautiful when it does. And as it goes down and all of our dissenters, they cry out. We are just going to smile, not because of their suffering, but because of the return of something that is beautiful, which is everything that we can be together collectively. Not one nation, not one group of people, not one race, but the human race all working together homogeneously against evil so that perhaps once we have defeated the evil, we can then agree that just like an avatar staying on the track here of cinema, the people from the water can live in the water.
Ian MalcolmThe people in the air can live in the air. The people on the earth can live on the earth. They all live differently, but in harmony together. with mother nature, which is how we're going to live together on this planet. The Germans for Germany, the English for England, the world will be brought back to what it should be.
Ian MalcolmWe're going to put the puzzle back together after the psychopaths have mangled up all the pieces, thrown them on top of each other, gotten out their little spray glue, shoved it all over the pieces and said, look at the beautiful thing we created. And we're like, what the hell is this? Because we're living in that. We're living in hell.
Ian MalcolmBut we're going to arrive in heaven tomorrow. It might not be 24 hours from now, but we are going to get there together. We're going to keep blazing that path that we were talking about. We're going to keep ignoring the propaganda that is Hollywood. We're going to try and stay away from the vices that Truth Teller always talks about.
Ian MalcolmPut down the sugar. Put down the video game controller. When you get off of this space, step away from X. Go outside. Go for a walk. Look at the sun. Enjoy a big glass of water. Listen to Truth Teller when you can so you can get a whole bunch of better health habits that I might be able to rattle off right now. He's got endless ones to provide you on vitamins and all these other things.
Ian MalcolmTreat your body like a temple. It's that simple. And if we all do that together, the temples that we will all build are going to be breathtaking. They will be spectacular. They will arrive far sooner than we can ever comprehend. And we will all be able to smile because of it. So I want to thank everybody that came in here.
Ian MalcolmI want to thank Joanne. I want to thank Tom. for co-hosting. I know a lot of people, they look up at the panel. If you've never been on one of these spaces, it's not easy to sit up and to host these. It takes a good amount of additional time, of effort, of attention. One little lull in the whole space goes to hell in a handbasket.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I want to thank them for being up here. We went far longer than I thought we would, almost four hours on this subject. If anybody wasn't here from the beginning, you can go back to the start of it. It was absolutely spectacular, the inside story of Hollywood. So I want to thank the two co-hosts. I want to certainly thank
Ian MalcolmBaron Von Grimm. And I want to thank all of you for listening. I want to thank the person that recommended that Baron come to this space. And I want to thank anybody and everybody that has the courage to stand up, to speak out, to share the truth as they know it, which is going to be unique and individual and beautiful because of it.
Ian MalcolmRight. This was the first space that Baron had ever been on. Guy straight out of Hollywood, worked literally with some of the biggest directors and biggest producers in Hollywood in the 90s for a decade. came into this space to just share his understanding of the world with us. So I want to thank him for that, for the time.
Ian MalcolmI want to thank all of you for your ears. And I want to thank all of you for any actions you take tomorrow that you might've taken today, that you took yesterday to try and make that not so distant, hopefully future better for all of us. So lots of love to everybody out there as always. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you may be in the world.
Ian MalcolmGod bless for everything that you are. Godspeed on our adventure ahead, and just know that we will bring about that beautiful tomorrow and that beautiful sunrise. So lots of love to all of you. Again, thank you to the co-host, to everybody that was here, and we will all see you in the next one.