Held here entire — 185 passages across 9 chapters and 4 named voices, set down from the first word to the last.
- 0:00Welcome and IntroductionIan Malcolm introduces Andre Williams and sets the stage for a discussion on the Black community.
- 8:45Mase's Comeback and Hip-Hop's ImpactObi-Wan identifies Mase's 'Welcome Back' and Ian connects it to hip-hop's influence on the Black community.
- 15:39Andre Williams' Background and CritiqueAndre Williams introduces himself and outlines his critical perspective on cultural and racial issues within the Black community.
- 20:04Evolution of Black Music and CultureIan and Andre discuss the shift in black music from wholesome artists like Aretha Franklin to the degeneracy of modern hip-hop.
- 23:48Andre's Four Categories of Black PeopleAndre Williams details his controversial four-category breakdown of the Black community, from 'Black men' to 'Niggers'.
- 35:48Elevating the Black CommunityIan asks Andre how to encourage upward mobility within his four categories and address the vitriol from the lowest tier.
- 45:58Historical Shifts in Black CategoriesAndre discusses the historical prevalence of his four categories, particularly the rise of the 'nigger' mentality since the 1970s.
- 55:28Degeneracy in Film and TelevisionAndre and Ian discuss the decline of wholesome black representation in film and television since the 90s.
- 1:03:34Kanye West and Dave Chappelle's ImpactIan asks Andre for his thoughts on Kanye West and Dave Chappelle as role models within the Black community.
The Transcript
Speaker 1Or we might just get a song from Ace. Because I'm back.
Ian Malcolmanother one for you. And another song of the day. We're going to bring up a couple people requesting. We will certainly bring up lots of individuals. Going to be very interested in this conversation. And Mr. Andre, very excited to have you in here, my friend. Excited to get some thoughts from you on this subject. But before we do, we've got to go to the co-hostess with the mostess.
Ian MalcolmAnd I realized right after I clicked play, I was like, oh, I don't I didn't know there was going to be an announcement as to the singer. I don't know if you heard that part there, Joanne. But if not, kind of curious if you can name that... Let's see, the song, the artist... And why I might have selected this one for today's space.
@joann_marieOh, my God. Ian, thank you so much for hosting and Andre for co-hosting and being here and everybody. I have never heard this song. I only heard Welcome Back and then I used to be like a bad boy, but now I'm like a good boy or something like that. So is that... I don't know. I've never heard it. And I'm like the worst at this.
@joann_marieBut it sounds good.
Ian MalcolmSo much fun. And it's a it's a fitting one, actually. And so why don't we do this? Why don't we open it to the panel and see if anybody can name that song and name the artist behind it? Andre, any thoughts?
@andrewilliamsusI have no clue. Can you hear me? Am I coming through?
Ian MalcolmWe sure can.
@andrewilliamsusOK, yeah, I have no clue, no clue at all.
Ian MalcolmAll right, Mr. Malleus, any takers?
Speaker 2Can you play 10 seconds of it again?
Ian MalcolmWe could turn it back. Yeah, we could get that back on. Let's see if you can play it again. Mr. Obi-Wan, are you familiar with that tune?
@wagmiwanI just joined now, but I only heard Welcome Back.
Ian MalcolmOkay. All right. Well, then let's give it just a second here. Joanne, you take over for just a moment. I'll get something fired back up here for us.
@joann_marieAll right. And guys, please repost this space. And if you guys could, I will also repost it. And follow Ian and Andre and Rabbi and Avi. Everybody in the panel is just amazing. So thank you so much for being here. Are you ready? No?
Ian MalcolmWell, almost just a second. We're going to get this situated. We've got to go to... One of the little options here. No, this will be curious. And there's a reason specifically not only for the song, but specifically this artist. I thought it might be interesting. So let's see if anybody can name that tune.
@wagmiwanIt's Mace. Mace, welcome back. Mace was on P. Diddy's label. He left the music industry, and I imagine it is because he was done with the pedophilia and the Jewishness. And then I know he did this song when he came back. He found God before that. But yes, that was his return song, Welcome Back. Boom.
Ian MalcolmSo how Obi-Wan slam dunk hook, line, and sinker. So Mace, a.k.a. Mason Betha, who they list out as the iconic 1990s hip-hop star from Bad Boy Records, famously stepped away from his rap career in 1999 to become an ordained minister, transitioned to the pulpit, serving as the head pastor for churches throughout Atlanta, then made a comeback, and in his comeback, tried to create songs that would connect the black community with God, which I thought, again, would be kind of a fitting...
Ian Malcolmfitting tune here, right? How do we take, let's say... Are you proud of me?
@joann_marieYes, I am very proud. I've never heard this before.
Ian MalcolmSo that was... So, Joanne, I'm sure you're familiar with Puff Daddy and... Oh, I'm familiar with...
@joann_marieYes, I'm familiar with Bad Boy Records. I always wanted the t-shirts, you know, like the baseball t-shirts that they used, but now I don't, so...
Ian MalcolmAha, so bad boy records. So yes, nonetheless, Mase, a super iconic star of that era of hip hop, who again, kind of left all of it behind and said, I want to go find God and bring him to my community, which I thought would be very fitting again for this space, because I'm going to be very curious for Andre's thoughts. Obviously, we talk about race and let's say the dynamics of culture and
Ian MalcolmWe obviously point lots of fingers at the usual suspects that I think have been essentially demoralizing not only the black race, but everybody in the United States and wherever they get their tentacles. But nonetheless, the black community obviously has been very negatively impacted through things like hip hop, right?
Ian MalcolmLike drugs, both illegal and legal, as well as some of the cultural decline and malaise that has come with those things. So the destruction of the nuclear family, We now presently have something almost four in every five black children are born into a household where they will not be raised, not only by two parents that are their parents, but not even by two parents, period.
Ian MalcolmSo think about that. That's when I heard that part of the statistic, it drove me up a tree, right? So the idea of even growing up in a family, even if it's a broken one, even if it's not your biological father, even if it's not dot, dot, dot. So 80 percent of these children. Right. So we have a culture that's in decline.
Ian MalcolmAnd the thing that I find most concerning is rather than, let's say, the black community and all other communities starting to trend in a better direction, what we're actually seeing is the rest of society is being lifted up year over year over year to, let's say, similar strains or at least similar patterns as the black community.
Ian MalcolmSo it's Instead of the black community getting more wholesome, it seems like everybody else is going with it in the wrong direction. And so I thought, what a wonderful opportunity. I'd seen Andre and some of his fantastic content. I'm going to put his pinned tweet up into the nest. Everybody should give him a follow. And he's absolutely one of my favorite voices on this platform that I've recently discovered.
Ian MalcolmSo Andre, with all that being said, Hopefully you're familiar with the bad boy record era, if not good on you for having the more wholesome collection in your musical library. But if you wouldn't mind giving a little bit of backdrop on yourself, on perhaps the things that you've been doing on this application and on what got you to start standing up in a way that I know is both very controversial and also results in you taking kind of slings and arrows, not only from other communities, but from even that very community that you're trying to lift up.
@andrewilliamsuswell it's good to be here i appreciate you having me on it's a beautiful opportunity to sit here and speak with you and of course your your audience um if you don't know me i'm andre williams i've been making a very critical content of the black community culturally racially uh as well as jewish supremacy something i've kind of uh dabbled in as well eighty percent eighty percent is black we talk about that all day and twenty percent i'll talk about the jewish question you know i think it's a fair balance for me uh but very harsh very critical
@andrewilliamsusof the various problems that are ongoing in the Black community. We're looking at Black fatigue, but really it's Black exhaustion. And the people who should be exhausted the most should be Black people like myself. Unfortunately, our community is surrounded and just filled with so many So many people with no purpose and no direction and very violent ones that are willing to attack you the moment you give or sing a different tune from the rest of the crowd.
@andrewilliamsusI'm not your typical black conservative content creator. I'm not going to come on here and like, you know, PragerU is the best and TPUSA or any of that fucking pro-heap shit. I'm not doing any of that. I think that there's a few other people who are very genuine, honest out there. But I would say, given my background coming from Detroit, serving the United States Army for close to four years, 82nd Airborne Division, moving back to my city of Detroit where I grew up, I think I'm probably one of the most honest Black voices out there right now, given my age, being 25 and everything.
@andrewilliamsusI think I'm probably one of the honest. I love the other people. Myron Gaines, he's great. Charleston White is okay. There's a bit of a problem I have with Charleston, but he's okay. But in terms of someone my age and who's genuine, I'm I'm probably like the only one right now. So that's me. That's me. And to answer your question about bad, I'm very much familiar.
@andrewilliamsusI'm a big hip hop fan. I listen to everything, but it's more so I listen to it. If the beat's good, it sounds good, but it's like, what the fuck are these niggas talking about? It's like, are you serious about it? Did you really? Is here a little bit?
@joann_marieSay again. I'm sorry, Joe.
@joann_marieI'm so sorry, Andre, you were rubber banding a little bit. Can you get closer to the modem?
@andrewilliamsusOkay, I'm here. Can you hear me loud and clear?
@joann_marieI don't know. Can you please keep talking?
@andrewilliamsusYeah, hello, hello, hello? There we go. Yeah, we can hear you now.
@joann_marieYeah, I think we better now.
Ian MalcolmNo, and Andre, it's actually, that's a perfect maybe place to start because, you know, obviously when we look at pop culture and in particular music, music, if we look at hip-hop music especially, there's a colorful term in there that I will not use or even reference. I don't necessarily like to just because I think it both disparages one group or community while also kind of, I guess, confining myself, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd I'm a free speech absolutist, but at the same time, I don't like to just be flagrantly inflammatory because obviously I talk about some pretty pretty abrasive things to begin with, right? So no need to just add, I guess, fuel to the fire on that one. And so I know that's a piece, one of the videos in particular that I was going to put up in the nest from you, this idea of kind of breaking down the black community into basically four subsets of people, which I'd love to get your thoughts on.
Ian MalcolmAnd the curious part about it is that as you walk through it, I almost feel like we could look at pop culture and in particular music as And we can see the evolution perhaps of these four groups that you're going to describe. And I say that because you go back far enough, you get Aretha Franklin and R-E-S-P-E-C-T, right?
Ian MalcolmYou go forward, you get Michael Jackson, which I was considering playing both Aretha Franklin and also thinking about Michael Jackson because of the man in the mirror and the idea of the black community. Let's take a look in the mirror at that group and also at ourselves and figure out how can we make the world a better place by doing so in our own
Ian Malcolmways each and every day, right? But then as we go forward, we go to Mace, which obviously in the bad boy era, a little bit more in terms of the risque nature, right? Certainly some of the songs that Notorious B.I.G. and Tupac were putting out were very edgy. But by contrast to modern hip hop music and sexy red, I feel like Tupac and Biggie Smalls
Ian Malcolmwere poets by every stretch of the imagination in comparison to what we have today. So there's almost a devolution of not only the musicality, but also of the meaning of a lot of these mainstream artists. And kind of, I feel like in some way that that music almost kind of follows these four groups that you're maybe going to walk through when you describe the black community and this kind of colorful approach that you've taken to it.
@andrewilliamsusYeah, it's the way I break it down. And I usually don't like to go back too far. You know, I really stay between the 1980s, 90s. And I would say the early 2000s, you saw a big cultural shift with Black people. You know, in the 1980s, Black people, of course, there was a lot of crime instability coming out of the you know, Jim Crow era and, you know, the end of the civil rights movement and so on.
@andrewilliamsusIt was a lot of problems. However, still culturally, there was a good representation of what a black person should be. And I would say it was kind of the 64. You can be like the low down, dirty little nigga, or you can be a black man, black woman and carry yourself with some respect, carry yourself as if you come from, you know, a good family, a good place, you know, keeping your head high.
@andrewilliamsusSo that carried, I think, to the 90s. And in this explosion from a lot of these Jewish record producers, Rick Rubin and so on, many of these other people with Defro Records, who push people like Tupac and Biggie to the forefront. And funny thing, Tupac was not the gangster hard ass like he is portrayed in his music, which he's more popular than Biggie.
@andrewilliamsusHonestly, when you look at it, the nigga went to Juilliard. That nigga was doing ballerina shit. And, you know, they got him talking about gangbanging and shooting. Sit down. You went to private school. I did as well. And there's nothing wrong with that. But that was not the narrative that was necessary in order to really solidify the racial problem that we have today, 20 years later, 30 years later.
@andrewilliamsusYou know, you needed a culture of a people who were, one, victims, forever victims and slaves to their emotions. um always going to be entitled and looking for a handout rather than building and doing for themselves and i hate to say it you know that lazy i don't say that in the like i said the typical you know conservative you know these are just lazy like you know the are just lazy lazy it's more of this is something that we have glorified as a people you know we've pushed you know not not going beyond uh the standard that's set
@andrewilliamsusbut doing the bare minimum. Look at what you're seeing with these high school, you know, prom videos and everything. Everyone's coming. These niggas are celebrating prom like it's a fucking wedding. But it is a wedding. It's a wedding, a marriage, beginning of a marriage of failure and mediocrity. That's the very sad part.
@andrewilliamsusYou know, it's very poetic when you look at these niggas out there and they've got the Rolls Royce and, you know, the Maseratis. These niggas will never have that in their life. Maybe 10 of the, maybe millions of these niggas that you see will have that. The restaurant won't have that and own it. They may have it and rent it.
@andrewilliamsusAnd that's a big problem with Black people. We buy what we want, and we beg for what we need. And everything is rented in life. So when it comes to the four different types of Black people, I consider myself a Black man. I came from a very good family. I was born in a very terrible environment here in Detroit. But I came from a family that owned everything, worked hard to get it, and were respected amongst their peers and in the neighborhood because of it.
@andrewilliamsusthen I would see, you know, going with my grandfather, who served 44 years in the Navy, 20 years for the city of Detroit as EMT, you know, a PhD, you know, great, great man. Like he was like Superman. He could do everything, any and everything. It was unfortunate when he died two years ago, I just couldn't believe it. It was so abrupt.
@andrewilliamsusIt was, you know, it still bothers me to this day, but his influence and his impact sticks with me. But when I would, you know, travel with him and go around the city, You would see the next version of the Black community, the house Negro, the house nigger. And, you know, someone Black out there, you talking about yourself?
@andrewilliamsusYou talking about you? You the coon. They'll say some shit like that. You love master and shit. They always want to go back to, you know, talking in slave terms for some reason. I don't know why we do it. I don't know why we enjoy doing it. I don't think about slavery like that, nor do I want to sit back and constantly be reminded of it.
@andrewilliamsusBut niggers love it. And they promote it. But the modern day House Negro is the Democrat and Republican. It's the Black politician. It's the Black person who does work at those record companies that are pushing this poison. And they're profiting off it. They're making money from it. They're pushing this poison and killing the youth and the mind of many Black children and Black families.
@andrewilliamsusowner for profit and that's a big problem that we have but long before we get to the outside influence when it comes to the various different jewish record producers and so on that have a very tight hold over media uh and academia it's really the people who push it the most are black people i think in the white community has the same problem of the useful idiots uh of the good goys that will sit back and push this propaganda that's destructive and harmful for our own races um but that's that's the the house negro the black the black liberal
@andrewilliamsuswho doesn't like white people, but they're married to a white person. They love to fuck white people. They live in a white area. Crazy. And you've got the black conservative that is, you know, they were bullied as black liberals, grew up in a suburban black area or suburban white area, bullied as black liberals, couldn't get along.
@andrewilliamsusAnd because they could not fit in, they became conservative. They became Republicans out of spite of the other side, not because they actually believe in a lot of the black conservatives that you see today. They don't believe a lot of shit that they're saying, nor can they explain it. And nor do they have an experience like I do.
@andrewilliamsusI grew up in a household that was very far right. And that's a rare thing to have in Detroit. That's a very blue area. So we're like a big red dot, if anything, in a blue sea. But, you know, that's how I grew up. So I was very separate from, you know, a lot of the people that you see who are out there. Brandon Tatum, what's that faggot that works for PragerU, Xavier or something.
@andrewilliamsusthe gay black conservative, these people are goofy. Then to keep shortening it up, we'll go to niggas. Niggas are a large portion of the black community. You can't go anywhere without seeing niggas. Niggas are loud. Niggas are angry. Niggas are not as violent, but they can. And the violence that they do commit is fighting.
@andrewilliamsusThey'll fight each other. They'll steal shit. They'll justify stealing shit. They'll justify being loud. You can't calm them down. It's just a very sad existence, a miserable existence to be a nigga. But there is hope for some. I come across niggas who want to know more and can understand where I'm coming from and agree.
@andrewilliamsusThe problem with niggas, niggas is just stupid. And stupid doesn't mean you don't know anything. It means you just don't know better. Excuse me, you know better. You're just choosing not to do better. That's the only thing. Stupid is you know better. You're choosing not to do better. Dumb is you just don't fucking know.
@andrewilliamsusAnd you'll never know. And that goes to the last part, niggers. Niggers are dumb. Niggers are violent. They're the people who are killing black people far more all day, every day, than a white person is to black people. Niggers are the biggest problem for black people. Niggers and niggers are the two things that we have to really fight against as black people.
@andrewilliamsusBecause niggers give us a very poor representation and image, and niggers kill us. They put us down. They embarrass us every step of the way. So that's a big problem we have. And I'm confident with the work that I do, the people I talk to, and what I hear from a lot of people around my age, that things will change. But nothing is guaranteed without work, without effort and struggle.
Ian MalcolmNo, that was beautifully articulated. And there's a couple angles to this that I'm going to be very curious for your thoughts on. And
Ian Malcolmthe way I might kind of want to break it down is the view of these groups amongst one another, right? You were kind of describing because one of the things I would love to figure out how to do more of is to help the community. And when I say that, I mean the world, right? Help the global populace to be able to lean in and to encourage in a way that is productive wherever and however I can, individuals to aspire to move up that hierarchy, if you will.
Ian Malcolmright? How can we help elevate the individuals that are at the very bottom of those four categories to the third, from the third to the second, the second to the first? And then I'm also going to be curious for your thoughts on the view of those groups amongst one another, right? Because I would get the impression that as you go down to groups three and four, you mentioned that some of the groups that in the third category that you described, that they'll listen and kind of agree to some of the sentiments that you have.
Ian MalcolmBut perhaps, I don't know if it's either IQ and it's intellect, it's genetic, it's cultural, it's a lack of education, et cetera. How do we help them kind of, again, move up that chain? And I'd also be curious for your thoughts on the fourth category and how much vitriol they throw in your direction, because just scrolling through the comments section of your post, some of the most
@andrewilliamsusinflammatory commentary feels like it's actually coming from the very community that you're suggesting you're trying to help lift up so i'm just kind of curious on your thoughts on on all those dynamics yeah well you know what niggas niggas hate being missed out on it they hate being left out and missing out on anything at all um but the thing is there are a few who are afraid of what's going on the environments they live in the conditions they live in all that of course is tied with environment race uh excuse me iq
@andrewilliamsusGenetics, like all that is tied in. But the niggas were willing to listen and not the most intelligent. They can be educated. And there's a difference between that. Some people think because you're educated, it makes you intelligent. No. Intelligence is something else that can be measured in a different way. You can go to school.
@andrewilliamsusI know tons of niggas have gone to school and they still think that white people commit more crime in the country and don't even want to acknowledge per capita. They'll sit back and say there's more white people on food stamps than there is black people. Yeah, and it's totality, nigga. uh, pro-capitalists, more black people.
@andrewilliamsusThat's a big problem. Niggas, I know tons of niggas who've gone, I went to Brown and he's dumb as a rock. He can't tell you anything about World War II or tell you anything about just American history in general. Um, so education is fun. Any nigga can be an educated, educated. That goes for everybody. Black, white, purple, any nigga can go to school and, you know, turn in a piece of paper, pass the test with, you know,
@andrewilliamsusbare minimum colors and bare minimum standard to a bare minimum standard. But intelligence is something else. It's completely different. And of course, that's genetic. Can it be fixed by environment? Well, that's a conversation of eugenics. That's a conversation of a lot of social pressures that have to exist. And it becomes very Darwinian.
@andrewilliamsusYou have to really weed out the weak in order for people to become more intelligent or to expand into a higher level of intelligence. But that's very complicated. It takes a very long time. But niggas are, they're able to change. I've seen a few who they don't fully agree, but they understand and they know when I sit back and break it down to them.
@andrewilliamsusListen, nigga, you have to deal with this. How many friends have you lost since you were a kid? You know, how many people do you know in your neighborhood have been killed or been put in jail for dumb shit? And they don't partake in the dumb shit, but they'll defend it. They'll sit back and dress like a nigga, talk like a nigga.
@andrewilliamsusThey have a job. Not motivated to do anything. That's the big problem. They're never motivated. And this goes back to what I said about purpose. No purpose, no direction. They may not engage in nigga shit. They'll get loud and they'll lean into that entitleness and trying to be, you know, oh, I've got to be a part of the nigga crew too.
@andrewilliamsusBut really, they don't want to be a part of that shit. And they understand it. They're just choosing not to do better. Niggers don't know shit and don't care about shit. And it throws a lot of vitriol in the face of black people. Black people, separate from niggas. Black people, black people. those working hard, those who actually do what they're supposed to do for their family, for their community, for their country, and for themselves.
@andrewilliamsusNiggers ruin everything for everybody, and people are getting tired of it. And really, that's 10% of the community when you look at it. Niggers are 60%. Niggers are 10%. We look at the crime statistics. I'm talking about violent individuals, violent individuals, repeat offenders. They're never going to stop doing what they're doing.
@andrewilliamsusThey've leaned into it. They glorify it. They love it. Them niggers have to go. Really, they have to go. and the way we push them out the community is through black people you know i tell black people the worst case scenario is white people you know when white people wake up about the jews and wake up about the jewish question even further and get their racial identity back you think oh you are still working okay well listen tyrone you'd call us when you guys get better again okay no they're like hey it's time for you to go too so can either get together and they're saying well we want to
@andrewilliamsusWhitey, can we stay? It's more of, nigga, can we live? That's how I look at it. Do I want my existence and representation to be so poor? No. Do I want black people to be looked at as the permanent underclass and just the bottom of the barrel everywhere we go? Fuck no. And would I want someone to come along and say, you know what, we have to do away with you because you're such a problem, a significant problem, a significant headache?
@andrewilliamsusNo. So for my own sake and for my own survival, And for our own existence and for Black betterment, we have to get shit together, regardless of white people like it or not, or not. But it's very important that we get ourselves together because nobody else can help us. White people are done lifting. White America's done lifting.
@andrewilliamsusIt's time for Black people, Black minds, Black men, especially, to do the lifting.
Ian Malcolmno that's really really well put and and i'm kind of curious and it's a it's a very interesting way to to break this down again categorically where you have kind of these four different buckets that uh you know of which there's one that's extremely problematic and it's kind of similar to the the jewish question i suppose right where we in these rooms we always are very specific it's not all jews obviously uh but when we look at the top of these power structures especially the degenerate aspects
Ian Malcolmwhich obviously tie into drugs, legal and otherwise, with Purdue Pharma and the Sackler family, but then also hip-hop. We can go in and look at the producers behind all this music, and what do you know? It's the same cup of tea, right? But it is this small set or cabal of people that happen to come from the same group, pushing the same slop.
Ian MalcolmAnd then within the Black community, obviously, there is a subset that's extremely violent, extremely dangerous. So I'm kind of curious... For your thoughts, and because I know you said you don't like to go too far back necessarily, but I'm curious for your thoughts between, let's just call it maybe the 70s, 80s, 90s. You can kind of pick where you want to bifurcate the timeline.
Ian MalcolmBut from, let's say, the 80s to present, how much have any of these four categories either increased or decreased, right? Do we have far more in that lowest tier that tends to be violent and problematic? And if so, is that downstream from... either the cultural aspects, or is there something else that you think might be at play there?
@andrewilliamsusI would say the house Negro and the nigger has always remained at least 10% of the black community. The question, the big battles between black people, the honest, hardworking black man and woman, and niggers. And I would say in the 1980s, you had a lot of the nigger culture, nigger mindset, nigger mentality. which came from the 1970s with the exploitation films and the glorification of pimping and drugs and all this.
@andrewilliamsusYou can make your money, brother, from pimping a bitch out and stepping on the beat. I don't know what the fuck. All the super fly movies and shit, that carried into the 1980s, and that's when you start seeing this nigger mentality coming. I would say the community was maybe 70% black and at least 20% or 30% of that would be niggers.
@andrewilliamsusAs you move into the 90s, you get a very obvious split with the music. You went from a push and a demand for hip hop. So all the Scarface, you know, Daz Dillinger, you start getting into like T.I. and so on in the early 2000s and so on. You know, Lil Wayne, tours of 2010s. All that was a battle between niggas. and black people and i would say i'll put it right there maybe the 1990s and early 2000s 60 40. um but you had music that was on the other side r b and soul erica badu uh gary taylor uh kenny latimore you know these are great artists i don't when we talk about music i don't like to go back to the 1950s i have no connection with that but the music i listen to every day luther vandross um you know uh glenn jones i listen to this stuff every day tony braxton
@andrewilliamsusknow swvtoc all these things destiny's child i go on all day that's more relatable for my generation and for a lot of my people because we have a lot of movies from that era that were very good that were poetic uh and the black expression of love and family um culturally it was just a beautiful era in my opinion and as we turn into the the the new century the new millennium
@andrewilliamsusAnd getting further and further to the 2010s and so on, you get this promotion of degeneracy. Then it went over in the 90s from Tupac and Biggie. Like, they laid the groundwork for all the degeneracy. And what came of that spilled over and spilled into it with the drill wrap of the 2010s and is carried on through. Now this shit's mumbling.
@andrewilliamsusIt's mumbling fucking retards. Like, you don't know what anybody's saying. Everyone's talking. The shit sounds good. I was talking to someone today. He does a lot of camera work and does a lot of the shooting of these music videos for rappers. And he's like, the shit sounds good. You know, nigga, the beat nice. This shit sounds good as hell.
@andrewilliamsusBut what is this nigga talking about? He's talking about killing his mama and we're going to spin the block and shoot your kid. Who the fuck is listening to that? You niggas riding around happy, listening to this shit? That's demonic. And it's destructive to anything, any peace, any order in society when you just inundate yourself with this cancer.
@andrewilliamsusBut these niggas are serious about it. And they're going like, yeah, yeah, yeah, nigga. And it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what? You can't even fucking read, but you're out here rapping? And I'm spitting these bars and getting this money. Okay, this nigga's dumb. Niggas like that, you really can't help. Niggas are just lost.
@andrewilliamsusThis nigga really thinks this shit's good. Niggas that will cry. I made a video about NBA Youngboy that niggas was in the comments mad. What you know about NBA Youngboy? He the GOAT. He the GOAT. This nigga looks gay and the music sounds terrible. So I don't just assume you niggas are gay.
@andrewilliamsusBut that's my breaking down of it, you know, carrying up through the decades and through the years, mainly pushing the music. The music has been the best vehicle for this degeneracy and destruction of black people over the last 40 years. It's magnificent what's been done, honestly. It's remarkable, but it is depressing.
@andrewilliamsusIt's very depressing.
Ian MalcolmI mean, I couldn't agree with you more. And it's so curious because the timeline that you just described there, I'm curious for your thoughts on this because it feels like it was both within music and then also just the presentation of culture on screen. And I say it because I've tried to go back and to look over the decades and
Ian Malcolmat not only the music, but also kind of the world of either film and Hollywood or of mainstream television, right? And you go back and there's this window in the 90s where you had, and I always like to point to Will Smith, who I think in almost every capacity, you know, he was out there and was cool as could be while not in the least bit degenerate.
Ian Malcolmright? Even in the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air, where he was supposed to be the guy from Philly that was really edgy, right? He still loved his family. He still built a really wonderful relationship with his extended cousins and his uncle, right? And that whole, the television show is basically about the strength of a nuclear family and how anybody and everybody, you know, regardless of their colorful character, they can apply themselves.
Ian MalcolmThey can get, you know, solid education. And at the end of the day, kind of share, really quality communal values. And so you look at the television and the arc of it, and it's the exact same thing where somehow, and I'm really curious for your thoughts on where and when you mentioned the nineties, I kind of look at the Obama era and I don't know if this is too late, but it almost feels like somewhere around the time of Obama, everything completely inverted.
Ian MalcolmAnd you went from either a family matters, which had Steve Urkel, you went from the fresh Prince. And then the next thing, you know, every television show is about the degenerate aspects of, of culture that again, you know, Will Smith, who was supposed to be the edgy, colorful guy by contrast today, everything that he was doing was about as family oriented and wholesome as could be even on, uh, his Hollywood blockbuster films.
Ian MalcolmSo kind of curious for your thoughts there on the, the, the television and Hollywood side as well.
@andrewilliamsusYeah, very interesting in the 80s and 90s with black television. Very interesting, very wholesome. Not too many problems in terms of pushing the genre. You saw that mainly through the music and some of the films as well, especially throughout the 2000s with the films like Paid in Full, Belly. Those movies were iconic in the black community.
@andrewilliamsusThen you got rappers like Jeezy and, you know, he had his group USDA. And it was just, you know, party. Niggas partying. That's all it was, real shit. All these niggas wanted to do was drink and drive escalades and shit in the early 2000s. Watch How High Get High and do this shit. Funny shit. Like, don't get me wrong. It's funny.
@andrewilliamsusI think the early 2000s was just the best era for comedy. White, black. I just loved it. Wonderful shit. Funny people. But... You know, when it came to a lot of these other movies, when it was glorification, glorifying crime, because they want to piggyback off the mob movies, which more of a story of, you know, this is what happened.
@andrewilliamsusBlack people took it. No, this is what it'd be like. And this is how it can be. You know, Goodfellas is like, okay, this is a story about something that happened. Someone's life. It's, you know, there's a lot of things added to it, but niggas will make a movie like, yeah, but this will be, we'd be robbing niggas. The movie about robbing nigga, rob nigga.
@andrewilliamsusThat's the movie. Casino is about a Jew that tries to take over casinos. That's it. Working with the mob. Niggas will make a gangbang movie about how they shot up the liquor store. And that's a true story. Every day. It's a motherfucking documentary. Casino is like a... Casino is a movie. True shit happened. The movie is based on...
@andrewilliamsusI can't think of his name. The Jew's Life. I can't think of his name. But, you know, it's a lot of drama and shit added to it. Yeah, I just watched it yesterday, actually. It's such a great movie. It's so good. I love it. I love Martin Scorsese, the best director in American cinema. I like Tarantino, too, but, you know, we know how Tarantino is.
@andrewilliamsusAnyway, but yeah, with the movies and with TV shows, it's declined now. What do we have? We've got Zeus Network, we've got Bitches Fighting. shaking their ass. Some bad bitches, not going to lie. Some really cute bitches, but them bitches are angry. Angry hoes. They're good for the club night. You're not good for the wedding.
@andrewilliamsusDon't bring that bitch to any wedding. What else do you have? Nothing else. It's Tubi movies. And that's the same shit I'm talking about. Crime and cheating and all this other shit. It's just ridiculous.
Ian MalcolmI couldn't agree with you more. And I know there's a ton of hands and a bunch of requests. And so I want to make sure that we do get to some of those, but I did want to ask for your thoughts on two individuals that I think have essentially been heroic for the black community in many ways. And one of them, obviously a little bit controversial because with the good, you get a lot of bad, which would be with Kanye West, right?
Ian MalcolmWho there's been a lot that he pushed in maybe music that, that some would define as a, degenerate. There's obviously the situation with Kim Kardashian, who I think just personifies everything wrong with modernity. You know, he showed up at the, either a music festival or a movie premiere, something along those lines with his girlfriend dressed or essentially completely naked as far as I could tell.
Ian MalcolmRight. But, but at the same time, he also obviously is trying to push some good messages for a you know, taking dynamite to the Overton window in terms of waking people up to the Jewish question. And then the other would be Dave Chappelle, who, as far as I can tell, has essentially not done anything but good things for the black community.
Ian MalcolmI think he's one of the funniest, if not the funniest stand-up comedian of all time. And he's also living a low-key life out in, if I'm not mistaken, in Ohio, in a small town. He talks a whole lot about how he thinks it's a really wholesome way to live. He seems to be active in his local community, which is a wonderful thing.
Ian MalcolmAnd it seems like he's kind of putting people to task, not just on social issues like the LGBT group, which he makes fun of in very comical ways, but also pointing kind of at the black community from time to time and saying, hey guys, we gotta step up. And so I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on either those two individuals or others that you might think of the way that I frankly did for a long time about Will Smith
Ian Malcolmas being kind of heroic role models for the Black community.
@andrewilliamsusWill Smith was always, you know, we look at Will Smith in the Black community is, I mean, it's different. We look at him as a pussy, honestly. Especially when he got with Jada. That bitch is crazy. It's a crazy evil bitch. Jada Pinkett Smith, evil bitch.
Ian MalcolmWas she always evil or was it towards the end when they had that whole weird story arc?
@andrewilliamsusShe's always been evil. You see the look in that bitch's eyes. She's evil. She was also friends with Tupac, no? Yeah, I think so. I'm not familiar with... I don't know what part of hell she comes from, but I just know it's hot wherever she's coming from. That's it. But Will Smith is like how we look at Nick Cannon and...
@andrewilliamsusI can't even say ludicrous. How we look at Nick Cannon now. Kind of his goofballs. They're not bad people to me. They're not bad people. Just Will needs to get away. He needs to just go find him a new bitch. But Kanye's great. I love Kanye. Kanye is great. Funny guy. Love his music. We all love early Kanye. Always will be iconic.
@andrewilliamsusThere's still some stuff he puts out now that's pretty good. But OG Kanye, 2000s Kanye would always be the best. And then Dave Chappelle. I love Dave. Dave's humor. I grew up watching the Chappelle show. Great shit. Not entirely on the line with his politics but i mean i'm not here for his politics i'm here for his jokes now when he includes politics into his jokes i can sit back and laugh because i'm i'm not going to get offended because someone made a joke i know this person's a comedian not a politician i don't treat celebrities like they have uh any grand influence beyond the microphone really i don't um so i i don't really have a problem with either one
@andrewilliamsusI disagree politically with one, and that's pretty much it. But Kanye, like I said, is fantastic all the way around.
Ian MalcolmNo, I fully agree. And he has been, of all of the celebrities, I think he has to be up there with Dan Bilzerian in terms of bringing attention to this issue. And so I'm kind of curious, this is the last little question that I want to bring in, Rabbi, and we'll go to Joanne and start going through some of these hands. But I am kind of curious for the Kanye effect.
Ian Malcolmon the black community when it came to his, uh, his very infamous song, uh, that was trending all over Twitter, all kinds of social media. Um, and obviously he was talking about this issue and going, uh, what was it? Uh, not mock three. He called it a death con three. I think it was right on a certain group of people. And so I'm curious about the black community's awareness to the Jewish question.
Ian MalcolmUh, what portion, if virtually any, uh, outside of individuals like yourself were aware of this topic a couple of years ago and the aftermath of Kanye kind of talking about these things. And if that community has started to, you know, have this be a little bit more in the forefront of, of public discourse in any capacity.
@andrewilliamsusAre you there?
@joann_marieAndre, can you hear me?
@andrewilliamsusCan you hear me? I guess I had my cell phone muted. Excuse me. When it comes to, there are many people I can look to that are coupled with Kanye. Exposing the Jewish question and the Jewish supremacy and so on. Farrakhan has always been somebody that people enjoy. Kyrie Irving talked about it for a minute. Much of anyone surrounding the Nation of Islam has always talked about it.
@andrewilliamsusIce Cube has brought up things regarding that. So Malcolm X, of course, very very distant, but of course his words still carry a lot of weight still to this day. But I think Kanye, and not just even Kanye, just the, what is being pushed through media over the last few years and the events that have taken place in the real world is waking black people up to it.
@andrewilliamsusNow, the problem is that black people still think that Jews are white when Jews really aren't white. They have, of course, phenotypically, they have a very white appearance and But even with that, most of them are not white. They're very distant from that. It's very separate. So it's funny how it's hard to get them to understand that, but they are very much aware of the Jewish question.
@andrewilliamsusAnd when I talk to black people today, you know, I just go JQ and sometimes just for fun, like, fuck it. Let's, you know, let's talk about some dudes out there trying to get signatures for petition to keep, you know, I think it was keeping DTE out of local politics in this upcoming election. That's the energy company we have here.
@andrewilliamsusAnd I'm like, yeah, you know, I wish we could do this for Israel, get Israel out of our politics, right? Get these Jews. And dude's like, yeah, dude, that's next, man. That's what we got to get next. I'm like, yeah, that's right, brother. We got to get that next. I'm like, holy shit. Like, what the fuck? I'm at the Walmart.
@andrewilliamsusThis nigga said, what? At the mark? Nigga said, what? Oh, shit. You know, I was fucked up from that, you know, because 10 years ago when I was in high school, You had to talk in code. When I joined the military, I had to talk in code. Today, it's like we can JQ on the fucking corner. If you want the panhandle, just go JQ.
@andrewilliamsusYou'd probably get way more money than just like, I need a cigarette. So it's very interesting how just so many things have played out. I think the biggest thing for people was COVID. That was a big thing for them to realize that things were being controlled by a cabal.
@andrewilliamsuslooking at how things have played out in Gaza with Israel, Elon taking over X and his battle with the ADL two years ago, woke a lot of people up. But they're not fully there, but they're getting there. I'm very confident in the next few years you'll see a better and more conscious response black community on the Jewish question.
@andrewilliamsusI can't really give too many percentages. I would say 30% of us are aware. The other 70% think that Jews are white.
@andrewilliamsusThat's the only problem, but it will change.
Ian MalcolmHey, 30% is a lot better than we're doing on the white side of the fence here. And so we're trying to increase that each and every day. But I do believe that This is a common denominator, right? Let's say the supremacists have been pushing so much animosity amongst everybody that's trying to keep us from ever banding together, right?
Ian MalcolmLeft, right, black, white, male, female, gay, straight, migrants, you know, nationalized citizen. Every battle line they can draw up, they're taking their sharpie. They're like, all right. And I do think that this is, you know, it's the one catalyst. that, uh, again, to go back to Michael Jackson, right? You, me, the entire human race, um, actually even continue that song people dying, but if you care enough for the living, right?
Ian MalcolmUm, what a beautiful musician that man was. And if this is, this is kind of that unifying cause that I sincerely believe that. And I do think that the black community is probably in some ways the ripest for the message, especially when you look at not only the president, which is essentially enslavement under this system in a lot of ways by essentially expanding the, uh, safety net to, to be kind of a comfort hammock, right.
Ian MalcolmThat, uh, a lot of, unfortunately the, the inner city black community has kind of just, you know, taken hold of and they've gripped onto it and they seem perfectly comfortable with it. Right. If those individuals can recognize not only in the present, are they kind of enslaved, whether it's financially and intellectually, if not spiritually, but also looking at the origin of the slave trade.
Ian MalcolmAnd for black and white to recognize, hey, guys, we're kind of in the same spot together presently. And despite some of the differences of the past, if we come together, we can build that better future for everybody. And it seems like that's the path to best win this is through that unifying cause. So I'm excited to hear that the black community is really starting to wake up to this.
Ian MalcolmI do think, again, they're kind of emotionally primed to have a very strong visceral reaction. And if we can band together with that, it's in the best interest of everybody. But Joanne, I'm kind of curious if you've got any thoughts, comments, questions, and then we can go down to Mr. Rabbi. I'm very curious for some of his thoughts and inquiries that he might have for Andre.
@joann_marieHi, and thank you so much. And I don't have a lot of experience with black people. My only experiences have been really positive, but it was in private school and they were like normal, you know. But the Ones that I've seen online are, I don't know if they are like bringing the worst out of them to either troll or, I don't know, because it's insane.
@joann_marieLike they have some, I don't know if they're trolling or like they actually believe this, but there is some people that believe that Napoleon was black and also like that, who else was black? Oh, Beethoven was black. And, and like, like, it's just crazy. And I'm like, no, like seriously. And I don't know. I've seen a bit of how it was before and how it is now.
@joann_marieI remember when I first listened to Missy Elliott song that, that it says got my nails did something. And I was like, is this the way, like, why are they using this, this, you know, and, and it started like to pick up and they started like using different language. And I kept like telling them like, why, you know, like they are trying to dump you down and I started noticing it even more.
@joann_marieSo I don't know. Um, but I mean, it's, it's happening to everyone. I don't know. It's, it's pretty wild, but yeah, no, in person I've had good experiences and, and, That's about it. And also, we don't have a lot of black people in Mexico. So I don't know.
Ian MalcolmWell, Andre, to play off that real quick before going to Rabbi, I am curious. I forgot to ask that. But your thoughts on the FBA community and not just the mindsets or the ideologies, but the other thing I'd be curious about, are those individuals just provocateurs that are probably funded by the same Jewish supremacists that just want people fighting with one another?
Ian MalcolmBecause every... let's say, exchange that I've had with that community, it's almost always gone completely south. And a lot of the rhetoric has just been utterly unhinged. It's either a complete unwillingness to accept kind of basic realities around crime statistics, or like Joanne just said, it's these claims like Napoleon's black and all these other things that's just, you know, it's maniacal.
@andrewilliamsusBlack people created white people. That was a good one.
@joann_marieThey think that they are like they are, that the Palestinians are not real and that they are from like, it's just crazy. Like the Jews are trying to take our land and now black people want to take our land. Like, no, like, I don't know. I'm over it. I don't like it.
@andrewilliamsusThose niggas are just retarded. I don't even give them. I don't think they're being funded by anyone other than, you know, other dumb niggas with dumb money doing dumb shit. talk about dumb shit. That's all it is. I wouldn't give them niggas a dollar on the corner. So I don't think anybody's going to fund these niggas to just sit in circles and say stupid shit.
@andrewilliamsusThat's all they do. They just sit in a circle, spin, and say dumb shit all day. Remember when we invented white people? Nigga, do you remember when we was TPs and shit? Some of these niggas actually think that we's indigenous to America. Nigga, we was here before everybody. Andrew, I have a video of that. I have one of black men saying that, dude, it is
@andrewilliamsusI don't like I understand what you just said. And it's weird, you know, to see any human being going from a rational thought to saying something like that. I'm just and I understand that there are trolls and they're making you look bad. We have the same on our side.
@joann_marieBut are they trolls, though? That's that's. They cannot be serious.
@andrewilliamsusIt's very serious. These people are very insecure about their own lack of purpose in existence. So what they do is they try to feed off of someone else's. They do this individually in their own life, and they do this as a collective. That's what you see all the time. Listen, I don't really care if white people invented everything and did all this.
@andrewilliamsusI want to invent something and do something for us going forward. Who cares if everything in the past was invented by white people? That's great. White people have their accomplishment. Nigga, what the fuck have we accomplished? That's what matters more. Let's talk about that.
Speaker 2Most of it is rooted in reparations, right? The battle for reparations.
@andrewilliamsusWhat did you say, Loco? I'm sorry.
Speaker 2I said most of it is rooted in the battle for reparations. That there's 246 years of stolen labor that was never compensated for and that opportunity cost that was lost as a result of not having the funds to be able to build wealth. is part of the reason that they have a grievance that they were never paid and everybody else was reparated for harms that they suffered in the past.
Speaker 2That's really the core and crux of the organization of the argument.
@andrewilliamsusAnd it's the dumbest shit in the world because everyone in this entire world has gone through the worst shit. Far worse conditions, far worse oppression. Oh, they put us on the plantation, they brought us on ships. Oh, that was terrible. They fed us. Oh my goodness, how horrible. Are we with slaves? I wouldn't want to be a slave in Africa or in the Arab world, even today.
@andrewilliamsusOh no, they master hit this abusive plantation owner, which was not common with all of them. I'm not saying that they were the best people owning slaves, but I don't think they would want to damage the property that they just purchased in order to work. But oh no, this plantation owner was terrible. Here's two stories of it.
@andrewilliamsusAnd let's make it happen like it was everywhere. Oh no. Terrible. Nigga, get over it. What are you doing now? You're a slave today. And the only master that exists is you. You have put yourself in these shackles. You have whipped yourself to be lazy and to do nothing and to own nothing and then beg and put a hand out. And you think that this is a prison when really to be black in America is far better than being black anywhere else.
@andrewilliamsusI'm happy that Bolt came and got my niggas because I'm here because of it. I could be somewhere in Zimbabwe. I don't want to be. I'll go visit a nigga in Zimbabwe. Hello, goodbye. But when I come back, I want to see some skyscrapers, not no fucking river huts and teepees. I want to see nice skyscrapers. The only shit I want to see, when I go to a reservation, I should see wigwams.
@andrewilliamsusThat's the only sticks I want to see. Okay.
Ian MalcolmThat's a good one. I'm going to be so curious for... for Rabbi's thoughts on some of this, either questions, comments, curiosities. And Andre, I have to say, one of the funnier guests that we've had of everybody on this platform so far, I absolutely love it.
@andrewilliamsusI'm going to have to make this recording, listen to a lot of people in my sphere of the internet, just to make them kind of see the, because I was speaking about people like you, Andre, I met 20 years ago that were warning me about what the black community was doing to the black community. So, Just I'll have to send this recording to many friends.
@andrewilliamsusOkay. Yeah, that's good. And it's sad that so much has changed in the last 20 years that we're at this point, but it's really because a lot of black people like me don't speak up. I could talk about niggas all day. Niggas are the problem. Niggas are the problem. House niggas are very greedy, but it's black people. that are the problem.
@andrewilliamsusAnd that's really the core issue when I talk about the core, the main point, excuse me. We don't speak up on it. The black people, I need to speak up on it. We shouldn't have Chud DeBilder walking around calling people niggers. It should be black people doing that. You know, we should be the ones calling people everything when we see them acting in such a way that embarrasses us.
@andrewilliamsusBecause like I said, I have to see it every day. Some of you will see it on the internet. Some of you will see it passing by. Some of you may not see it at all. But I have to live it every day and see how we act. I didn't go to suburbia like the Fox News blacks. It would've been nice. I can afford it. I can use my stuff I gained from my service as a veteran and use it.
@andrewilliamsusBut I came back home because I wanted to be around my own people and see how things are. I didn't want to be disconnected from reality. I didn't want to go live in La La Land and pretend that things will get better or things will only get better for me and that's all that matters. I want to come back and see how things are so I can really get a good grasp of how we can go about this and make change.
@joann_marieI just want to add really quick about how they propagandized black people into believing that that's like... gangs and all those things were like cool. They did that in Mexico and they made it like cartels and stuff. They made it cool. And a lot of people, like I saw this firsthand, a lot of people did fall for it and it's absolutely horrifying.
@joann_marieSo yeah, they are, yeah, they are really good at propagandizing people. So I'm really happy that you're talking about it, Andre. And guys, please repost this page so we get more people in here and follow Ian and Andre. I saw a couple of your videos, but you're like even cooler live. So it's awesome. And thank you so much for being here.
@joann_marieIan, oh.
Ian MalcolmLet's go to Rabbi. I'm very curious for some of his thoughts on what Andre said and how we prospectively try to permeate that more into the Black community.
@andrewilliamsusPardon me, Ian. I put the video about the Indian and the... Black American saying that he's a native Indian in the bubble. Just for the laughable.
Ian MalcolmRob, are you there?
Ian MalcolmWell, hang on, Rabbi. I apologize. I hate to jump in. I was scanning through the Purple Pill. There's about 20 different comments from 20 different people saying the audio is completely cut out of the room. We've lost 200 listeners the last maybe five minutes or so. And so I just want to give a big thank Well, hang on.
Ian MalcolmI just want to give a big middle finger first and foremost to X. And I mentioned this to Joanne. I put screenshots into the Purple Pill. They mess with the connectivity on the spaces, every single space that we host. I don't know why. It seems like these audio issues are getting worse and worse. So what we'll do, we'll try closing this down and reopening the space really quickly so that we can hopefully resolve this issue so other people will be able to hear.
Ian MalcolmI see Grim sending a message. I think he was trying to come up to... express the same challenge. So we'll just cycle the space and everybody just give a little virtual middle finger to the team at X while we do, but we'll be back up and running in about 30 seconds and we'll continue the Q&A here.