Lost Faith In MAGA With War Room’s Grace Chong @gc22gc

2:41Ian MalcolmHi, JoAnn. I'm going to go out on a limb and take a guess here that you are going to be able to both name that tune and the artist that is behind it. But maybe I'm wrong.↗

2:56@joann_marieYou're right. And thank you so much for hosting. Amazing song and I love it. I won't back down and I'm not 100% sure.↗

3:06Ian MalcolmIt sounds kind of like Lou Reed, but it's not Lou Reed, so I'm going to go with either Tom Petty or... Well, you don't even need an or because it is, in fact, Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers, which I thought was a fitting... You know, JoAnn, I was actually... So I was looking through because we're going to be talking about the significance not only of voting, but also the importance of protecting...↗

3:36Ian MalcolmThat entire process, right, with Grace. I'm very excited for it. And I found myself looking through songs about kind of elections and the political process. And I came across Revolution, which I know we used months and months and months ago by the Beatles. And I found myself looking into the background of the song, like I always do with a lot of these, to understand a little bit about the context, the meaning.↗

4:03Ian MalcolmAnd sure enough, When I was looking into Revolution by the Beatles, that song, it has an entire piece of it which talks about how they want to change the world, but that if they are going to push for essentially violence, they say in the song, you can count me out and everything's going to be all right, is the lyrics of it.↗

4:30Ian MalcolmAnd it's curious because... The song actually got an immense amount of backlash at the time that it was released because the people that were listening to the Beatles wanted them to actually encourage essentially violent protest and riots and all of these other things and sure enough, the backlash was so significant that the Beatles actually later came out and said not only did they support the idea↗

4:59Ian Malcolmof essentially overthrowing the governments, but that they agreed and sided with Marxist politics, which I couldn't, and this is directly off of the Wikipedia page. And it goes on to later say that towards the end of his life, one of the latter interviews that he gave before his death, it was saying that he actually retracted that ideology, that he said that just like in revolution, he thought that ultimately the best way to bring about a change was through peaceful.↗

5:59Ian MalcolmThank you so much for watching.↗

6:19Ian MalcolmI wanted to bring the difficulty back. I feel, JoAnn, that the last couple songs I've thrown at you have either been fastballs or big curveballs. And so I thought, you know, let's throw one down the middle.↗

6:31@joann_marieYeah, no, I always put, I haven't listened to this song like in 20 years, and I always put like Sonic Youth, Velvet Underground, like with Blue Reed. Tom Petty and Iggy Pop in the same box. I was going to like so all of them at once, but yeah, no, it's such a good song, Guillaume, and thank you so much. And thank you so much for bringing the difficulty back to like alt-rock or like indie.↗

7:00@joann_marieI like that, so thank you.↗

7:02Ian MalcolmYeah, no, right up your alley, I figured it might be. And obviously Tom Petty, certainly a very, very talented musician. and somebody that, if I'm not mistaken- But he's also a Jew? Tom, I'm gonna have to look at Tom Petty. Bob Dylan certainly is.↗

7:18@joann_marieYeah, he is, but I don't, I'm gonna Google.↗

7:21Ian MalcolmWe've got to, because I feel like, and that's the thing, you listen to Tom Petty, okay, he can sing. You listen to Bob Dylan and he doesn't sing like a singer, right? He's not, Bob Dylan's certainly not the- The most pleasing of voices to listen to. But the times are hopefully changing. And we, and this is actually a nice little segue, right?↗

7:44Ian MalcolmThe times are changing because right now we clearly are living in a confused world. We are starting to look around and we're seeing that so many, little by little, are starting to awaken to the fact that not only is there something really wrong with the American government, Where the middle class feels certainly very left behind by both the left and by the right.↗

8:10Ian MalcolmThe right often because of economic policies that are solely favoring the people at the very tip of the economic top. And we just saw that today. What a wild thing for Donald Trump of all things to do, right? He's getting an immense amount of pressure from all directions. And we saw that he recently came out, made some announcements about vaccines, right?↗

8:35Ian MalcolmWhich is kind of curious because for a guy who said he was gonna run on a platform of getting rid of a lot of the vaccines and had RFK in tote, a guy who spoke obviously against the COVID vaccine, it was very anticipatable because what do you know? Donald Trump gets back into office. stands up there with Albert Bourla and the rest of the billionaire class from the COVID rollout as the US government forms yet another partnership with Pfizer and the likes of this insane machine, right?↗

9:07Ian MalcolmBut we saw him kind of taking a little bit of a step off the gas as they made some announcements around the vaccine schedules for the youth, right? So in some sense you could say, okay, well, maybe he's gonna throw a bone or two to the little guy. And then what do we see today? But lo and behold, Donald Trump considering lowering capital gains taxes, right?↗

9:32Ian MalcolmWhich is such an absolutely asinine thing to do amidst the golden age where we look up and we see not only the rich, but we see Donald Trump and his insane cabinet that are getting caught in crypto scam after scam. Donald Trump having made more money in his first 12 months in office than literally every prior president combined, right?↗

10:00Ian MalcolmThe man has made outrageous amounts of money, often through nothing but scheming and essentially manipulation of the markets. So for that guy to come out in an era where something like 80, 90, 95% of all the value of the stock market that is moved around being held by the richest of the rich, right? To say, oh, we're going to lower capital gains tax or our buddies who they're not out driving the Ubers.↗

10:32Ian MalcolmThey're not out working at the restaurants. They're not up mowing the lawns or doing anything. They're not plumbing. They're not electricians. These people don't work with their hands. They probably haven't worked in honest day their entire lives, right? They move money around in a digital scheme, whether it's in crypto or the stock market.↗

10:50Ian MalcolmThose are the people that Donald Trump wants to make sure to lower the taxes on so they can make even more money out of the enslavement of the middle class, right? So we see these things and we note that even the diehard MAGA fans are starting to walk away. You're seeing people in some of these polls. They're coming out and saying that Trump is losing 20, 30, 40 percent of his voter base within 18 months of taking office.↗

11:21Ian MalcolmI mean, this is these are degrees of, let's say, animus towards the political system that in many ways we haven't seen in forever. And we're also seeing, of course, economic pains, the likes of which we haven't seen since the 2008 economic crash. So everything is set, it feels like. For a change to finally come. And so that idea of Tom Petty's song, I won't back down.↗

11:46Ian MalcolmThat is what we need to be doing. We need to be rejecting not just the Republicans, but we need to also reject the Democrats because they're all part of the same schema. The Republicans are manipulating all of the markets so that the absolute richest make a fortune at the detriment of the middle class. And of course the Democrats want to open the borders.↗

12:07Ian MalcolmThey want to import every H-1B work visa that they can possibly muster. And of course, in doing so, well, what does that do? It increases the cost of living while it reduces the wages for those of the middle and the lower class, right? So on both sides of the aisle, you see the exact same thing. And so we need to all band together, just like in that Tom Petty song.↗

12:28Ian MalcolmYou can't keep knocking me around. I won't back down, right? We all need to collectively come together and recognize this system. It is truly In opposition to all of us, right? The eternal us that in the founding of the documents that essentially enshrined the United States, right? The idea of we the people. Well, we the people need to realize that this game, it's rigged.↗

12:51Ian MalcolmThat neither side cares at all about us. And we need to band together and stand together because not only are we getting knocked around, but in many cases, it's not just being done for the richest of the rich in this country, but for a global set of financial interests.↗

13:32Ian MalcolmBut the recommendation from the one and only Gen X girl who a lot of us are very familiar with and absolutely love, who has absolutely recommended Grace. And if I'm not mistaken, this might be, not to have a little rhyming here, but it might be the first space for Grace in which we are graced. So I'm very excited for everything that's gonna follow.↗

13:57Ian MalcolmAnd with that being said, JoAnn, any... additional housekeeping items here before we kick things off with Grace and start unpacking this idea of the voting system, how we are going about it, and how we can potentially bring a little bit more accountability to those that are in charge of the country.↗

14:13@joann_marieNo, Ian, thank you so much for hosting. And Grace, I'm so excited to listen to you. And thank you so much for being here. And Rabbi, favorite person, Mulberry. Amazing app. And also, guys, please repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and bookmark it. It helps so much with the algorithm. And follow Ian and Grace and Rabbi and Mulberry.↗

14:35@joann_marieAnd I see my girl Mandy and Dank. He is brilliant, guys. Please follow Dank and show him some love. And I'm just really happy and excited to be here. So thank you so much for having me.↗

14:47@gc22gcAnd Grace, how are you? I'm good thank you so much for the opportunity and yes this is my very first space that I've ever spoken in and like participated in and I'm like you know it's lame to say but I am a little nervous but I am really just thankful for the opportunity and I know it's just like everyone with like all across the political spectrum you know obviously I work for um↗

15:18@gc22gcThe War Room, Steve Bannon↗

16:15Ian MalcolmThat idea of the hatred just want to be very specific because I get called hateful of all kinds of things. I certainly hate the idea that the American people are essentially just being treated like cattle at this point, right? It seems like neither side could care any less about the lifestyle of the average American person.↗

16:35Ian MalcolmSo certainly hate that view or that indifference to the suffering of the middle class, which in my opinion anyway has been completely... Just gutted over the last, well, essentially, it feels like forever, but it's really exacerbated since essentially 2008. And I think it went into overdrive somewhere between Barack Obama and Donald Trump.↗

16:58Ian MalcolmAnd so certainly dislike, if not flat out hate that. Also hate the idea of the American people being dragged into yet another conflict and war that I don't see any benefit in sight. And Grace, maybe a way to kick things off, right? Because I do feel like this Iran war, right? There's lots of people that have been looking at me and kind of the talk track that we have, and they've been saying that we're crazy for a long time.↗

17:23Ian MalcolmI feel like, again, to go back to MAGA and the dwindling support that Trump has had, it feels like this war with Iran, even a lot of the diehard MAGA people are starting to lose faith in Thank you for joining us.↗

18:05Ian MalcolmAs they are in support of anything and everything else. So I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on the state of the state and the demoralization, I suppose, of the American people in general.↗

18:15@gc22gcYeah, I mean, you know, I can't speak for obviously all of MAGA or just like the right. But, you know, I think the OG MAGA is definitely demoralized and... and just pissed off you know and you know obviously there is a fight between like who's MAGA the new MAGA old MAGA you know meaning um the Israel first versus OG MAGA you know because OG MAGA is just anti-war America first and so there's a big you know a lot of infighting and and um and anyway uh you know just↗

19:00@gc22gcI just think that, you know, the OG MAGA is just, yeah, they're demoralized. They hate this war. I mean, I hate it. We should have never gone, you know, into it the first place. I mean, it's... If Israel didn't... You know, it's Israel's war, you know, and it's just really disappointing. And I think it's getting to a point where, you know, like, we have to get out and...↗

19:28@gc22gcI'm just rambling right now, but I think that really is just the general feeling of what OG MAGA is at.↗

19:38Ian MalcolmYeah, so a lot of frustration with it, you're thinking in general. Obviously, I have a pretty... I suppose once upon a time it would be considered kind of a fringe position in terms of the mechanisms of power kind of moving around the media and the political regime and all these other kinds of things. It feels like more and more people are starting to either, I don't wanna say side with, but at least kind of explore this idea that there are foreign interests that are really↗

20:12Ian Malcolmin control of the White House and perhaps a lot of the mouthpieces within the media. I'm just curious kind of how that has played into and not necessarily shaped, but how perhaps Bannon, the War Room, a lot of the things that you've been traditionally involved with, how they're either receiving or reacting to that kind of ideology and perhaps to some of the people that might be fans of the program.↗

20:39@gc22gcWell, I would say probably the majority of our audience, I mean, okay, so we, majority of our audience, it's boomers, right? So boomers, they all are mostly, you know, pro-Israel, they, you know, they, a lot of them are former Fox News people, you know, so they still have, we still have a good group that, you know, still is like, they're not Israel first, but, you know, they're just, they kind of have that boomer brain, you know, so.↗

21:09@gc22gcBut, I mean, you know, Steve talks about it all the time on the show about, you know, AIPAC, just everyone being bought out and just all the foreign interests. And not only just Israel, but just like Qatar and China and just how everyone is just bought off. So, you know, the audience, I mean, our audience, I think they're getting really tired.↗

21:37@gc22gcThank you so much for joining us.↗

22:04@gc22gcon the boomer side too because obviously the younger generation you know we all know is like not anti-israel maybe anti-israel i don't know what you say like um they see you know that we are just taken over by a lot of foreign interests so um so yeah i mean i think there are a lot of eyes have been opened um you know steve's definitely against the war i'm not i'm not gonna speak for him but you know↗

22:29@gc22gcI don't know if I answered the question, but that's the general. No, I mean, you absolutely did. And it's one of the things, you know, I don't want to say this.↗

22:55Ian MalcolmWhat I've noticed, if I look out at the political landscape, there's, of course, a growing animus against some of these foreign entanglements and interests that you're referring to. One of the things that I've seen, though, is it feels like a lot of the voices that are willing to discuss that angle, that they are often very fragmented.↗

23:17Ian MalcolmAnd what I mean by that is you've got, for example, some fringe Democrats that are very, very anti Israel. But they're also being led by candidates that are also very anti, essentially middle-class, white, Christian, traditional American values, right? And so if you think about that, okay, so you've got some anti-Israel folks over there.↗

23:37Ian MalcolmYou can think of some of them as being the ones that were doing the college protesting, right? And a lot of those people are maybe a decent chunk of them, right? They had the blue hair or whatever other things that we would traditionally attach with kind of leftist ideology. And so even on Fox News during that, That window where you had a lot of those very, very intense amounts of protesting arising on college campuses.↗

24:01Ian MalcolmAgain, they were very anti-Israel, largely because of what, in this room anyway, we would just label us the genocide of the Palestinian people, right? And the reason that I bring them up in kind of specificity is that that group, right, the right wing would never be able to side with them. So you had traditional Fox News viewers that would see the college protests.↗

24:23Ian MalcolmRaed Jamal, Raed Jamal↗

24:53Ian MalcolmThey use a lot of internet jargon and slang that the older generation is never going to relate to, right? They see the little green frogs marching around and anybody that's in that older audience is going to, of course, tune them out. And so I bring it up because I feel like Bannon perhaps is a voice that some of the more traditional conservatives can maybe listen to that perhaps will get them to open their eyes and so that perhaps↗

25:17Ian Malcolmin some not distant future, right? My goal is to try to build bridges and foster relationships, whether it's the old or the young, whether it's the Christian or the Muslim, whether it's the left or the right, to both recognize that we're all in this mess together and that we can all infight amongst one another about how we dislike green frogs or we dislike blue hair, right?↗

25:40Ian MalcolmBut at the end of the day, if we're all living in this kind of occupied nation where this one Thank you for joining us.↗

26:14@gc22gcYou know, I think what it comes down to is just nationalism. I mean, Bannon's huge on just, you know, that being sort of like the main thing. I mean, he's a populist nationalist. You know, like Nick Fuentes, you know, with the younger crowd, he is about nationalism, you know? And I think... You know, that's why I think it's hard to, you know, with the leftists, they're anti-Israel and everything.↗

26:41@gc22gcBut, you know, like you were saying in the beginning, they are about open borders. They are about, you know, anti-white or, you know, all that stuff. So, you know, I think really what, you know, what Steve really pushes, you know, like on War Room really is just about American nationalism and getting back to that. And I think that really is,↗

27:06@gc22gcHow we can unite just everyone across the political spectrum. It's tough, but I think that's really what the biggest thing is, just focusing on nationalism. That's just my opinion too. I mean, I'm really big on just being pro-America and just nationalism.↗

27:36Ian MalcolmSo this is kind of wild, actually, because to think that Bannon was, you know, one of the right hand people during the Trump administration in their first term. And here's a direct quote. I was going to Grok just looking for some. So this is directly from Steve Bannon. This is 2025 as of September on the war room specifically.↗

27:57Ian MalcolmHe said, they are not an ally. They never fought shoulder to shoulder with us anywhere. They get us into messes like in Iran where they've tried to have regime change and they've lied about it. Netanyahu and his government are destroying not only the state of Israel and gonna turn it into a Jewish Pakistan, but they are hurting the Jewish community throughout the world and turning the entirety of the world against the Jewish community, full stop.↗

28:23Ian MalcolmAnd anybody that's pitching and promoting and defending Netanyahu, you're only hurting Israel. And you're only hurting the Jewish people on a global basis, full stop. You're making your problems our problems, and people in this country don't want any more of them. Which is a very direct comment from a guy, again, who was extremely close with the president, who, I mean, seems pretty flagrant at this point, that Trump is just bending over backwards and doing whatever it is that...↗

28:56Ian MalcolmI'm kind of just curious if you think is there any kind of piece of the Trump administration that's still listening to Bannon or listens to this program? Do they have any, you know, ability to influence kind of the discourse or have you guys kind of been shunned out entirely do you feel like from the current administration?↗

29:19@gc22gcWell, the very first, you know, the 12 day war, you know, Steve I did go to the White House to talk to Trump about it. And even from the start of it, Steve was against just everything about it. So after that, the thing with, and this is just, everything is just from my opinion, what I see. So it's not anything like where Steve told me or...↗

29:54@gc22gcThe Trump administration told me, so just keep that in mind. But I think that what I've noticed is that Trump is just very guarded by, you know, whether it's Susie Wiles or, you know, the people around him. So I think the information that he gets is very, you know, it's sometimes very filtered, what I've seen. And so, you know, we do have...↗

30:21@gc22gcHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

30:49@gc22gcI don't know what else to say about that. But Steve screams about it every single day, about the war and stuff. And I think that's part of his job to make sure that he is that voice and making sure to try to keep Trump or the administration on the right side of it. So that's really all I can really say about that.↗

31:15Ian MalcolmNo, and I had to ask because I know there's a lot of interest kind of in, again, how do we build this coalition to try and just get these ideas into a larger audience where we're able prospectively, again, to kind of reach across the aisle and the older generation, the boomers that have been largely just glued to Fox News or some of the traditional mediums.↗

31:39Ian MalcolmUnfortunately, the ones that I feel like that... Thank you so much for joining us.↗

32:07Ian MalcolmHe would welcome the idea of changing the legislation so Netanyahu could become president of the United States. You are a crazy person, Benjamin.↗

32:37@gc22gcI don't know. It's very difficult because a lot of the older generation, they just have boomer brain. Like Trump, he just has Fox News brain. My parents as well, even though I tell them everything about how bad it is and everything, and they know it. But they still have that boomer brain, you know, and it's just been so ingrained.↗

33:08@gc22gcAnd, you know, I just think, I really, I think the future is really the younger generation and just to really, you know, make a coalition with like the younger generation and to continue that conversation. Like, I think it's great that you guys do this like every night, which I'm like so impressed that you guys do this.↗

33:31@gc22gcBut I'm just continuing to do that and I'm really hoping on the younger generation to really just tell the truth about what's going on.↗

33:47Ian MalcolmYou know, absolutely. And it's funny actually that we led the song off and we're talking a little bit about the Beatles, right? Because whether it was that era all the way up to today, the youth has always been A little bit more, of course, radically pro-change, right? Revolutionary change, even that song that I was going to prospectively play.↗

34:09Ian MalcolmAnd that actually brings me to the question, right? Because if we think about what it is that the youth are starting to build, right? I mentioned Nick Fuentes and obviously his groipers, right? Fuentes has this kind of, I'll call it what I think it is, which is a sales pitch. And people are welcome to take their slant on how sincere or insincere it might be.↗

34:32Ian MalcolmBut this idea that they're going to build a groundswell where over the next 10, 20 years, they're going to kind of subversively occupy Washington by taking over all these roles in the Hill and whatnot. I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on if that is actually a reasonable approach. I'm of the position and mindset that it's not because I don't think we have 20 years.↗

34:54Ian MalcolmI think this Thank you so much for joining us.↗

35:25Ian MalcolmHe once said that I'm trying to orchestrate a global PR campaign, which is basically what I'm doing, Grace. I'm trying to help educate and bring a lot of attention to these issues. As I think the only way we can arrive at this kind of like that Beatles song is not through violent protests. And I don't think it's through a 20 year subversion plan.↗

35:43Ian MalcolmI think it has to be a mass awakening to what's going on and essentially a I'm curious for your thoughts on that.↗

36:03@gc22gcThey're all activists, right? So they are the older generation, but the reason why they're so powerful is because they do the work. They go knocking on doors every day. They call, they text, they write postcards. And I think if we have the younger people doing that as well, I think that's one of the ways to go. What you're saying with the whole PR trying to...↗

36:28@gc22gcHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

36:57@gc22gcI'll see you next time.↗

37:13@gc22gcThank you so much for joining us.↗

37:41@gc22gcI think it's sort of like, I mean, I understand what you're saying. I understand what he's saying. You know, we got to do it now, you know, with urgency. And that is what, you know, Steve's trying to, or the war room, we try to push the officials, you know, that's why Bill Blaster was like made, you know, so that we can be calling our elected officials and pushing them to do this and that and that, you know, that's that whole...↗

38:07@gc22gcI agree with Nick, with the younger folks, because I think that's what he's trying to say, to get into the top schools and work in D.C. and all that. But yes, there is an immediate need, an urgency right now to make changes. It's all of it. So I agree with Nick. All of you guys.↗

38:42Ian MalcolmWhen I say my thoughts on the timeline here, it's not to try to undermine the suggestion. I think what you're saying and what he's saying, it's completely reasonable, right? We should try to figure out how do we position ourselves to try and make a difference and to try and take back any of these reins of power in whichever way we can, right?↗

39:02Ian MalcolmAs long as it's legal, kind of righteous, and that we're motivated for the good of the people and the masses. and so I'm kind of curious for your thoughts and and I say this somebody down in in the purple pill had a photo and I don't know the authenticity of it but it has to do with with Jeffrey Epstein and prospective ties either to Bannon or some of the other folks that are within not just the Trump administration but kind of politics in general and so I I asked the question to frame it this idea of trusting right because I think a lot of people have essentially had their trust broken↗

39:37Ian MalcolmThank you so much for joining us.↗

40:08@gc22gcWell, okay, so, you know, obviously I can't talk about Bannon, like his, you know, relationship with him or what, you know, I just don't know. But from my perspective, like, yeah, obviously it just, they just, they messed up the whole, not Bannon, the Epstein release. And that's a huge deal. I mean, I think that's one of the biggest, you know,↗

40:38@gc22gcI think that the Trump administration made, you know, that just made people not trust, you know, a lot of things after that. So that was really disappointing. And, you know, like, as far as like, okay, so for me, though, I mean, I want everything out, you know, Epstein's, I think is, was Mossad, you know, just part of like the...↗

41:04@gc22gcIsraeli Intelligence. There's just so much to it, right? So I think that the public has a right to know. And I think he's like a bad guy, all that stuff. But as far as with Steve, I mean, I've known him for more than 20 years. I didn't even know that he knew Epstein. But as far as my experience goes... I've known him for 20 years.↗

41:33@gc22gcI've worked for him for all those over 20 years. And he is probably one of the most realist people. He's very generous. It's just a lot of people don't know that side of him. So whatever business relationship he had with Epstein, I just know my relationship with Bannon and he really has a great heart. I mean, he helps a lot of people that, you know, if people knew him the way that, you know, like sort of his inner circle does, then, you know, I mean, I wish people did, but that's all I really can say about it, you know, and, you know, people can, I don't know what else to say.↗

42:28Ian MalcolmNo, and certainly, you know, not trying to pry or anything along those lines. And I can also appreciate, and it was kind of an interesting and opportune ability to ask that question. I say it because I do think that there's probably a whole lot of people caught up in that entire thing that might have had otherwise, you know, good intentions and, you know, sometimes can get swept up in not so great of things.↗

42:54Ian MalcolmBut you're actually the second person that we've been able to speak with who had some kind of direct tie. The other, which was John Pierre, who's a Canadian kind of podcaster and a geneticist who was actually funded by Epstein with some of the work that he was doing within genetics, completely independent of all of, of course, the other insanity that Epstein was behind.↗

43:18Ian MalcolmIt was really interesting to be able to get his thoughts on Why Epstein was so fascinated with genetic testing and tampering and some of the things that they might have been doing at Zorro Ranch. And so it's, I'll say this, Grace, one of the things that's crazy is to think, to your point, so every day, or not every, but almost every day, we try to have these conversations and productively kind of advance awareness on some of these issues in a meaningful way, right, that's going to move a needle.↗

43:47Ian Malcolmand to think that, you know, it's just the thing that we've been doing as a little bit of a hobby, trying to make the world a better place and to be able to connect with somebody like yourself that works with such a, you know, big voice as Steve Bannon. It's really, it's a testament to the power of technology and really our ability to come together, right?↗

44:05Ian MalcolmAnd do far more than I think a lot of people would have ever imagined. And I use that as the royal we, because all of us, I think, have the ability now to to band together to learn together and then ultimately to build this kind of market of of influence right that that can compete with the likes of of Fox News perhaps not in terms of viewers but maybe in the impact and the zeitgeist and the amount of people that like what you're saying with Bannon's audience would be willing to actually go out into the community and to try and be active with it and so I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on you know as as demoralized as some of the masses might be↗

44:39Ian MalcolmAre you starting to see a either excitement or enthusiasm or perhaps the development of some kind of alternative, you know, ability to influence the narrative amongst like-minded individuals, whether it's through X or some of these other social platforms?↗

44:58@gc22gcI mean, you know, OK, Steve, I mean, his whole thing is like Fox News is. Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie,↗

45:36@gc22gcYou know, and just getting to know each other in that sense, I think is just amazing, you know, on Twitter and I think mostly just Twitter, really. You know, I think that's where the majority of the conversations are, you know, like these kind of organic conversations. I think, did I answer the question?↗

45:54Ian MalcolmNo, you actually did. And it's interesting because on that, you know, I do think that when Elon bought Twitter, it did kind of kick open a door. And if you think about it, it wasn't just his promise to provide free speech, which, frankly, I've I've found that it is free speech as long as you really don't go at one one set of.↗

46:17Ian MalcolmOh, right. Yeah. But nonetheless, I mean, you had Kanye West coming on here singing his song about the Austrian painter. Right. And that was just. Thank you so much for joining us.↗

46:53Ian MalcolmBecause truth be told, they're letting me do far more than I could do anywhere else. And so I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on free speech in America, which it feels like, Grace, it's essentially being hijacked because the only real free speech that matters anymore is digital speech. And all the digital speech is essentially in the hands of a couple technocrats that mostly...↗

47:17Ian MalcolmI don't know how else to say it. They mostly wear these little weird hats, right? So it just feels like it's being hijacked by those interests.↗

47:25@gc22gcYeah, I agree. I mean, you have people in Florida or that one girl who got approached by the police because she tweeted something about Jewish people on, I think it was Twitter or Facebook. I mean, you know, there was like a, or I think it happened in 2025. Like there was, you know, someone in Texas. I mean, it's getting scary, to be honest.↗

47:54@gc22gcI mean, as far as like, I don't think we have like totally like free speech, you know, even I think X is better than a lot of other platforms. But yeah, you just still have to be careful, you know, because... You can still get censored. I think in San Diego, they just passed a law or something about anti-Semitism. That's a huge, huge problem.↗

48:28@gc22gcThat's something that we have to continue to be loud about and continue talking about because To be frank, I didn't even really know the extent of it until like I started, you know, because of social media, you know, like TikTok and X mostly. So, yeah, I mean, I think that it's becoming, not becoming, it is, you know, an issue.↗

49:01@gc22gcJust... It's really, I mean, is anti-Semitism really, like, the biggest problem we should be concerned about right now? You know, when, like, the world is burning? So, yeah, I mean, it's free to an extent.↗

49:14Ian MalcolmYeah, and you know what? It goes back to that quote, actually, from Bannon about how what's going on with support for Netanyahu in Israel. It is, and I say this all the time, we've got... Individuals from all across the world, including Raed, who some of us listened to a little bit earlier. You know, it doesn't matter if people are in Lebanon, they're in China, they're in South Africa, right?↗

49:42Ian MalcolmThey're coming to this recognition that, hey, anybody that is claiming that you can't critique and open what, again, I mean, I define it as a genocide, and obviously the world court kind of agreed with that assessment, right? And so... You've got this strange position where essentially it's being deemed offensive, if not anti-Semitic, if not in some places criminal, to frown upon and to call out the act of mass murdering tens if not hundreds of thousands of people.↗

50:15Ian MalcolmAnd it's like if we are going to be told that we don't have the right to criticize a genocidal regime of Israel that's simultaneously dragging the United States into yet another war. that even Marco Rubio came out and admit that Israel is fully driving us into that serves no purpose to the United States, right? If we're being told you can't condemn that, all that does is get people to look at what was my radical fringe position years ago and they're like, you know, that crazy guy, maybe he has a point, right?↗

50:47Ian MalcolmAnd so it does feel like Bannon's comments spot on where this is the insanity of this kind of speech lockdown and the behavior of the Israeli government. Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie,↗

51:23@gc22gcAnd it's hurting America. I mean, that's first and foremost. And, oh my gosh, I forgot what you were saying. But no, I mean, what he says is exactly right. I mean, I just think it just creates more anti-Semitism, you know, just when, you know, we're not allowed to say our opinion about it. Like, you know, I think it's a genocide too.↗

51:52@gc22gcA lot of our audience doesn't, you know, it's mixed, you know, but, you know, I should be able to have the right to say that anybody should without, you know, having, you know, being canceled or being debanked, which I have been debanked and I know many other people have. Not because of that reason, but I think because I work for Steve Bannon, but that's another whole other issue.↗

52:17@gc22gcBut anyway. But yeah, I mean, it's, it does, I think Steve is spot on, you know, what he said, so.↗

52:30Ian MalcolmWell, and just on that, and I know there's a lot of hands, a lot of requests and people that are very interested to ask you questions. So maybe one final one and then I'll turn it and we'll start kind of around Robin with some of the hands that are up here. But Grace, you just mentioned that idea of being debanked. And I mean, I sit here and I,↗

52:49Ian MalcolmI'm very transparent, right? I'm, I'm towering essentially behind a anonymous avatar because if I am face forward, not only will I be debanked, but all essentially, and isn't it curious, right? I will lose my ability to compete in the modern economy and any of the fortune, not just 5,000 companies, but any real business that does business with those businesses.↗

53:11Ian MalcolmCause you'll just get people, you know, ad nauseum calling employers or groups that you do business with. Right? And we saw this exact thing. We're going to be talking on Thursday with Austin Franco, who was at Cornell. He replied to somebody saying, I don't want to work with a Jew. And he gets dragged through the mud, kicked out of his school.↗

53:32Ian MalcolmAnd it's like, you know, you're talking about being debanked. It feels like to Kanye West's comments, right? Kanye went out and with Alex Jones, he said, this group of people controls Thank you so much for joining us.↗

54:15Ian MalcolmThank you so much for joining us.↗

54:40@gc22gcI think first and foremost, you just have to always take care of yourself and your livelihood. If you have family, just make sure you're doing the right thing for that. Yeah, it's tough. I know I'll never be able to get another job after working for Steve Bannon. I already know that. It's just how it is.↗

55:05@gc22gcYou know, I just, everyone just, I just think everyone has to be really careful, you know, especially, you know, I think it's good to be anonymous, like how you are, you know, a lot of people are just like, and on accounts, you know, it's just, it's, it's tough when you get debanked, you know, and it's just really annoying.↗

55:24@gc22gcAnd it's just like, it's so maddening. And you just don't want people to just do something crazy, you know, just being so mad off of that, too. But Yeah, that's a tough one. I mean, you know, like with Austin, it's just, they're ruining his life just because he said he doesn't want to work with Jewish people. You know, I think that is just horrible.↗

55:49@gc22gcYou know, it's just, it's just, it's just, you know, it's just something, it's a war every day. You know, it's just... You gotta just take care of yourself, I think, first and foremost, and make sure that you're not doing anything that's going to just hurt your livelihood and all that. I just think it's not worth it in that sense.↗

56:14@gc22gcBut, you know, do the anonymous accounts and keep speaking up. I think that's the way to do it. And we gotta just keep on... You know, and I think that's part of what I think like Nick Fuentes is saying is like, you know, for people to get into those companies and get into those institutions and for, you know, for, you know, what Steve says, we got to take over the institutions.↗

56:39@gc22gcI mean, it's just, it's not like a, this is one thing that I remember when Steve went to prison, I was like so sad, you know, and he said to me, and I'll never forget it. He said, Grace, don't be sad. You're going to be fighting for 40 more years. This is just a part of the game. And so, you know, just having that kind of mentality of like, I know it's like there's like urgency, but it's just every day is going to be a fight.↗

57:10@gc22gcEvery day is a war. And I'm rambling, but... No, you're great.↗

57:15Ian MalcolmYou have been absolutely wonderful. And I'll tell you, because we have, and I'll just call it like it is. I can certainly appreciate that in the circles that we frequent, it's some pretty radical political ideology. And I don't mean radical ever in terms of kinetic activity or any of that kind of nonsense. But I have a pretty hard line set of animus towards a certain interest that I feel like have monopolized just about everything.↗

57:45Ian MalcolmSo I say that because we often talk about these issues and the history of it and all this other kind of stuff. But to have somebody like yourself come in that is coming from obviously, I don't know if the mainstream is the right term, but obviously from a vantage point that has lots and lots of eyeballs and with you having the ability to be able to share some of these thoughts or conversations or ideas with Steve, who obviously has a huge audience↗

58:41@gc22gcHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

59:10@gc22gcKatar or China. I mean, it's from everywhere, you know? But I definitely think you guys, I'm like more on your guys' side, I feel like.↗

59:26Speaker 1Let's go.↗

59:27@gc22gcYeah. So, you know, I guess, I don't know. Call me radical then. I don't know. I think I'm just... America First.↗

59:34Ian MalcolmYes, Grace, come to our little crazy idea.↗

59:40Speaker 1One of us.↗

59:41Speaker 2One of us.↗

59:42Speaker 1One of us.↗

59:44Ian MalcolmOh my gosh. Isn't it curious because all we are asking for is actually, you mentioned America First, right? And it's like we're sitting here and we're saying we want no new wars. We want a closed border. We want re-migration for those that illegally came into the United States. We want to focus on the middle class. And it's like, why are we getting hate from the Trump administration when this is what they promised everybody, right?↗

1:00:13Ian MalcolmWe're literally just asking him to do what he said he would do.↗

1:00:15@gc22gcI agree. Okay, this is off the record, even though there's people on here. So everyone, this is off the record. All right, everybody, pretend you didn't hear this next part. You're being recorded, Grace. It's okay, it's okay. But, you know, I text Steve all the time with frustration with, you know, with everything. I'm like, no 10 tips?↗

1:00:38@gc22gcLike, what? Like, I mean, what about everyone else, you know? And I want my Trump account too. Like, why is it only like little babies? And, you know, I mean, it's like everything. It's really...↗

1:00:54@gc22gcI think everyone shares that frustration. I mean, I definitely do. So I'm with you guys on that. And I think, yeah, I share the same frustration as you guys. So that was my off the record, but I don't want to go too much.↗

1:01:17Ian MalcolmWe'll work. And Grace, one of the cool things is to, Our little conversations here on X. One thing that's so neat, and I want to give him a massive amount of love and shout out if he's listening, but allegedly Dank is the user handle of this wonderful man who he takes these conversations and through this little AI engine that he built, they port themselves over to Apple Podcasts, Rumble, Spotify.↗

1:01:45Ian MalcolmAnd I mentioned this because A, it's wonderful that we're trying to get the word out onto other platforms. If You know, people aren't on X. But the other thing is just as a microcosm for what's going on with AI and technology. And I mean, obviously I have a lot of criticisms and I point to the people that run all the AI companies and what do you know, it's the same set of interests.↗

1:02:09Ian MalcolmBut I bring it up because one of the neatest things is that whether it's Bannon and his war room or what we're doing right here, right? There is this ability now For us to be able to magnify our voices and to put together either audio, we've got Rabbi [guest] up here who has some really hysterical music that he's made with AI.↗

1:02:31Ian MalcolmWe're seeing some of the videos that are being made with AI. I feel like we're kind of primed for this cultural revolution where in a not so distant future, not only can we maybe get our country back, but also can start putting out media that might uplift and moralize our people rather than I mean, I'll just call it what I think it is, which is the filth from Hollywood that so much of it today is just so degenerate and demoralizing.↗

1:02:55Ian MalcolmAnd so I'm just curious if you have any thoughts on kind of AI and what that's going to mean for this kind of next wave of media.↗

1:03:04@gc22gcWell, so, I mean, we're like, we're worms. We're not against AI. We just think that there should be a lot of regulations. I mean, there's just like none right now. And so we really focus on that, you know. But I think, you know, what you guys are doing as far as, yeah, using it for like the other platforms and trying to grow it and grow your voice that way.↗

1:03:33@gc22gcYou know, I mean, that's really how, you know, back in 20... Raed Jamal, Raed Jamal,↗

1:04:08@gc22gcRaed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy↗

1:04:36@gc22gcI mean, now Democrats are, you know, like with Hassan Piker, that's like, that's what they're starting to do now. You know, so the Democrats are catching on now. So they're like, they're behind. But I think just keep on doing what you guys are doing and, you know, using AI. I mean, I don't really understand that part of like using AI and doing it to media, but everyone's doing it.↗

1:05:01@gc22gcSo I think that's great. And I think that's how you, how, How really, I mean, you reach people. People aren't listening to like the mainstream media, you know, or like old school news. I mean, I see you guys like on the spaces all the time, like every night, you know? So, I mean, that's the way to do it.↗

1:05:25Ian MalcolmYeah, we're really, we're trying to be the little engine that could, right? And we're chugging along. No, when...↗

1:05:33@gc22gcHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

1:05:57Ian MalcolmWell, I cannot take the credit for the incredible scheduling that Miss JoAnn runs. And Grace, I mean, she has essentially us slated Monday through Thursday, along with Sundays out through, I think at this point, we're at like week three or four of September at this point.↗

1:06:17@gc22gcNo, I was like, dang, this is legit. I mean, I was like, wow, I really felt honored. It's a great setup and this is great. It's awesome.↗

1:06:32Ian MalcolmNo, and just trying to do what we can and to bring people together. And honestly, I know I speak on behalf of JoAnn as well. We're just humbled to have you here. And we try to bring in voices of all shapes and sizes, some accounts that are teeny tiny and have maybe a fringe thing that they want to share. or somebody like yourself that has kind of a wealth of knowledge and is obviously very, very connected within the political scene.↗

1:07:00Ian MalcolmWe're actually, tomorrow, we've got a live concert with Foundry. I'm not sure if you're familiar with him, Grace. He's a hysterical musician and ragtime piano player.↗

1:07:11@gc22gcNo, I haven't, I haven't, but I'll check it out. Foundry? Foundry, I'll check it out.↗

1:07:16Ian MalcolmYeah, we'll send you his handle. He's a very, very entertaining man and kind of piano. Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

1:07:51Ian MalcolmAll those that are trying to make the world better, right? In kind of the face of this huge media empire that just pushes so much just degeneracy, frankly. And I think a lot of people are demoralized. I think a lot of people are looking back on, and I mean, I critique Charlie Kirk a whole lot because it seemed like he was kind of unwilling to talk about this one elephant in the room, but he certainly did towards the↗

1:08:20Ian MalcolmThank you very much.↗

1:08:45Ian MalcolmThat's no longer there in the sky. So I'm kind of curious, just as a final question, outside of Bannon, who obviously I have a big affiliation for, are there any other voices or individuals that you feel like are kind of picking up that torch that unfortunately Charlie Kirk kind of dropped and that ironically Ben Shapiro 24 hours later is like, I'm going to grab that bloody microphone because he's so bloody arrogant.↗

1:09:08Ian MalcolmBut is there anybody else that you feel like is really doing his job?↗

1:09:13@gc22gcI think Steve called him a cancer at the AmFest speech. But anyway, you know, I think, let's see, I'm, you know, to be honest, I'm so consumed with War Room, you know, like, it's just like, I'm like, it's, there's just so much work, you know, behind the scenes. So, so I don't, I don't really listen to a lot of other podcasts.↗

1:09:42@gc22gcThank you so much for having me.↗

1:10:13@gc22gcLet's see who else. Oh my God, now I'm like having a blank. Oh my gosh, I'm just blanking right now.↗

1:10:22Ian MalcolmNo, it might almost be emblematic of the void that is there, right?↗

1:10:29@gc22gcYeah, yeah. You know, Charlie, I mean, we were close with Charlie. He was on the same network as us. And yeah, I mean, he was pro-Israel. I didn't even realize how big of a personality or that space he had. Even though we were close to him, I had no idea. He was a really nice guy. I don't know what you guys feel about him.↗

1:11:10@gc22gcHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

1:11:37Ian MalcolmThank you for joining us.↗

1:12:07Ian MalcolmI mean, he made a couple comments that clearly kind of hinted that he was aware of some of the things that we talk about in our rooms. And either way, you know, independent of that, if I think about it, if we move Israel off the table, if I look at the things that I'd like for the United States to really start to embody and to champion, it was the things that he was preaching.↗

1:12:27Ian MalcolmIt was the idea of... Thank you so much for joining us.↗

1:12:56@gc22gcGosh, what did you just say about Charlie? Oh my God, my brain.↗

1:13:03@gc22gcThat he was leaving Israel and that Netanyahu told him. I forgot, I forgot. If it comes up, I'll say it again. Oh gosh, it just, yeah, escaped me. Anyway, anyway. Yeah, I mean, just, yeah, family and just God and just... Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie,↗

1:13:50@gc22gcThe poor, the working class, and yeah, I mean, I agree in what you said everything in the beginning about just the elites and just how everyone has made money, you know, in the administration and just, you know, we just see it every day and it's just really sad. And, you know, it's just, we just got to keep on fighting for the people.↗

1:14:16@gc22gcI mean, whether you're left or right, I mean, I don't agree with the left, you know, I mean, they want to kill the right and everything. So, you know, that, but from a human being standpoint, you know, we just have to focus on making our lives better.↗

1:14:33Ian MalcolmYeah, I really, and it is wild. I mean, I have a, and I apologize, this is a gross oversimplification of modern politics, but I feel like it's basically, you've got the Republicans that are the Zionists that are just, Thank you so much for joining us.↗

1:15:24Ian MalcolmOn the left is going to be completely antagonistic towards the thing that I'm trying to protect while that it becomes my enemy. So I've got the Bolsheviks that I think of them as the left that are just pushing radical change that kind of terraforms our society while the right just consolidates all the power, the wealth, and essentially is outsourcing it to Israel.↗

1:15:45Ian MalcolmAnd it's like, wow, I feel pretty isolated here in the middle with no side to turn to, it feels like. And I think a lot of Americans are kind of coming to that same conclusion.↗

1:15:54@gc22gcYeah, I mean, that's really how, I mean, a lot of our audience feels. I mean, it's, like I said, I think that we all have a lot more in common than we think. So, I mean, it's just the basics, you know, that we need to get back to, which is that, so.↗

1:16:11Ian MalcolmNo, so well stated. And that's the craziest part is, again, and it really is not just an American issue, which is the wildest part. We look at what's going on in Western Europe. It's obviously... A lot of the same, right? You've got the infighting, you've got the continued push for essentially cultural wars between the Muslims, the Christians, black versus white, legal versus illegal, all these kinds of things.↗

1:16:36Ian MalcolmAnd I mean, it's my position that almost all of it, and it's so curious because for 25 years, I've been told you're not allowed to be upset about, and it was either mass migration, or some of let's call it just the color revolution ideology in the United States, because that was off limits essentially, even for Republicans.↗

1:16:58Ian MalcolmAnd now out in the blue, every Republican commentator, Ben Shapiro included, is like, get really angry about, and it's either black violence and crime or Muslim invasion. And it's like, well, isn't it curious that you guys, this was a big no-no subject and then- The world started to note kind of this idea of what we call Jewish supremacy.↗

1:17:19Ian MalcolmAnd now you're like, quick, let's feud those wars, right? And so it feels like they're just, they're pushing all of the cultural infighting at anything and everything because people are, again, starting to note this kind of common denominator.↗

1:17:34@gc22gcI agree. I agree. I think, yeah, I think there's definitely a lot of distractions for sure.↗

1:17:45@gc22gcYeah, I agree.↗

1:17:47Ian MalcolmYeah, and it's ironic, whether it was COVID or war in the Middle East, right? When you note that both the left and the right, the politicians and the, let's say, the pharmaceutical guys, right? When the academics and the advertisers, when all of them are in agreement on something, you're like, wait, wait a second. You're not supposed to-↗

1:18:12Ian MalcolmThank you very much for joining us.↗

1:18:27Ian MalcolmBut nonetheless, I know we do have lots of hands in here. JoAnn, I'm just so humbled again that we were able to speak with Grace here. I know we've got a lot of hands and questions, but JoAnn, any thoughts on anything that Grace has been mentioning here? And then we'll start going through some of the questions that we might have.↗

1:18:47@joann_marieExcellent conversation, Ian and Grace. Thank you so much for joining us. You've been wonderful. And also, guys, again, please repost this space and follow Ian and Rabbi and Grace and Godfroy and everybody on the panel. And bookmark it. It helps so much with the algorithm. And no, I'm agreeing with everything so far. So thank you so much.↗

1:19:06@joann_marieExcellent conversation. And Rabbi has his hand up. Rabbi, go for it.↗

1:19:11@malleusigOh, thank you. I just wanted to share my comments. I've been taking notes on what Grace was saying. And I just want to add that I really think that the problem is that not everybody understands America. You have the Hasidics, the Somalis, all these people that come from and still cleave to these pre-Renaissance civilizations.↗

1:19:32@malleusigWhen they see America, they just see a big pile of money that we Americans are naively not scamming anybody out of, and they're just fighting each other to get to it first. And if you noticed, America's destruction accelerates as a linear function of these people's participation in it, which is why any fix must happen around them, not with their help.↗

1:19:54@malleusigBut the other thing I wanted to touch on was you've mentioned that, you know, you brought up a very good point, which is, is anti-Semitism really the biggest problem in the world right now? And I would, every time I hear this, I agree, but I have to take it one step further. Is it a real problem? The more we learn about the things that the ADL is holding up as examples of anti-Semitism, which apparently ranks people seeing posts on social media that they don't like in the same category as assaults or killings of Hasidic Jews in Crown Heights, the more it looks like a moral panic publicized by billionaires and media with a clear agenda.↗

1:20:30@malleusigHow many Jews were killed last year just for being Jewish? For comparison, how many whites were killed just for being white? I'm willing to bet the latter is a higher number, especially given recent events like the murder of Irina Zirutska and Dr. Michael John Memon by black murderers who shouted at the scene that they targeted these people specifically because they were white.↗

1:20:52@malleusigIf anti-Semites were a problem, we would have Coca-Cola making its employees watch presentations about how they need to be less Jewish. If anti-Semitism were a problem, we'd see the number of jobs going to Jews plummeting While almost all new job creation goes to foreigners. In fact, if anti-Semitism were really a problem, we would see the number of C-levels or owners of Fortune 500 and tech companies that are Jewish actually start to slip below population representation instead of being multiples or even orders of magnitude over and above it like it's been for as long as we can all remember.↗

1:21:28@malleusigI would assert that anti-Semitism is not a problem. In fact, I would say That obsequious pro-Semitism, especially the political strain, is a much greater problem than anti-Semitism right now if we're going strictly by body count and effect on things like the world economy and public safety. And if we had the venue, I think we'd all enjoy having an honest and, of course, heavily moderated public conversation on just how serious a problem anti-Semitism is in the world today and how much of it is just media amplification by motivated and very well-funded interests.↗

1:22:00@malleusigThank you. That's it.↗

1:22:03@gc22gcRabbi, I agree. Thank you very much for that clarification. I think it's ridiculous. I just, yeah, thank you very much. I agree.↗

1:22:18@joann_marieShould we go to a couple of hands? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Godfroy, welcome.↗

1:22:25@g0dfr0yThank you very much. Thanks for coming by, Grace. I'm a fan of yours, and I appreciate you coming by here. I just had a bit of a tough question for you, and that is, what is it with people who portrayed themselves as iconoclasts or rebels within the Republican Party, like Steve Bannon and others, what is it with these people for refusing to acknowledge that Donald Trump is under full Epstein blackmail by Israel?↗

1:22:57@g0dfr0yThey do these mental gymnastics to make it look like he's a victim of Susie Wiles, or it's a Pam Bondi problem, or it's a Jared Kushner problem, but it's not a Donald Trump problem. And they never put the buck where it should be, which the buck stops with Donald J. Trump. And he could have fired these people at any given time.↗

1:23:19@g0dfr0yHe could have actually prosecuted Epstein, and he could have not called it a hoax. And he could have not told America, why are we still talking about Epstein? I understand that Steve Bannon's a lifetime conservative and it's hard for him to maybe break ranks. But we need brave men in this country to call out corruption where it is needed.↗

1:23:44@g0dfr0yAnd Donald Trump is one of the most corrupt presidents in United States history. And I can ask a follow-up question related to that later. But my question for you is, how does Steve Bannon not see What we see in this room, and it's not just him shutting down the Epstein investigation, it's him going into a treasonous foreign war with Israel, for Israel, in Iran, that nobody voted for.↗

1:24:14@g0dfr0yWe voted for a president who said no new wars, what we thought to be unequivocally, and we thought he meant it, but apparently no new wars is a euphemism for treasonous foreign wars for Israel. And just to take it a step further with the Epstein thing, when you look at these characters that matriculate into his administration, like Howard Lutnick, Kevin Warsh, Jared Kushner, Bill Barr in the first administration, whose father got Epstein the job at the Dalton Prep School, Alexander Acosta, who helped, I mean, he didn't get confirmed, thank God, but he helped to cover up the Epstein trial in Florida.↗

1:24:53@g0dfr0yIt's like you start to wonder, is this the Epstein administration? And that's what I'm asking. I literally think it is the Epstein administration. So that's a long-winded question of me asking you simply, why doesn't Steve Bannon come out and have the courage to say that President Trump is under full Epstein blackmail?↗

1:25:15@g0dfr0yBecause to everybody in this room, It is completely obvious that that is the case. And maybe you disagree, which is totally fine. I'm not trying to box you into a corner. But what do you think about that statement or that question of mine?↗

1:25:30@gc22gcWell, I mean, I'll have to ask Steve that. I've never, I mean, I don't even know how to answer that. But I mean, Steve's been vocal about like the Epstein files, you know, to police everything. I know, you know, his name's in like... Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

1:26:15@gc22gcThank you for that.↗

1:26:26@g0dfr0yJust if I may push back a little bit, President Trump is not going to do the right thing. And if it were just Epstein, I could attribute it to maybe he was not powerful enough to take down the deep state as he claims, but it's not just Epstein, it's COVID. He He lied about the Autopen. He lied about one. Well, in fairness, he never really even said he wanted COVID justice.↗

1:26:51@g0dfr0yHe only proceeded to brag about Operation Warp Speed and vaccinating America. And on his second day in office, he had Larry Ellison over and started talking about new mRNA vaccines that were going to be introduced through Project Stargate. And it's like RFK turned out to be the biggest rug pull of all, obviously. The COVID mRNA vaccine is still on the shelves this day.↗

1:27:15@g0dfr0yRFK was finally forced due to public relations only to rescind the recommendation to pregnant women for COVID, but that was in effect for the last year and a half. So there is no COVID justice. He lied about January 6th. He blamed the pipe bombing on a mentally slow black guy who was into My Little Pony. He was like 50 years old.↗

1:27:38@g0dfr0yNobody with a brain believes that story. We still don't know if Ray Epps is a Fed. We still don't know who the bad actors are behind the Fed entrapment operation. And obviously my position, just so you know, about January 6th has totally changed. I actually think Trump was in on it, which is why he doesn't investigate it.↗

1:27:57@g0dfr0yBut it's like literally everything with this guy is a rug pull. Like literally everything. I mean, even the show trials that he tries to put on with James Comey and John Bolton. I don't think anybody serious believes that this is anything other than masonic theater or just kind of kosher theater for the public. So it's like when you say Trump to do the right thing, and again, I'll mention the treasonous foreign war in Iran, when is he going to do the right thing or what makes you think that this man who literally lied about everything would do the right thing?↗

1:28:34@g0dfr0yBy the way, I'm a three-time Trump voter, just so you know.↗

1:28:37@gc22gcNo, I mean, it's a tough question. I agree with, like, everything you said, you know? I mean, if you see my tweets, I mean, you know, I don't hold back. I mean, I agree with, like, a lot of almost everything, you know, as far as, like, the rug pulls and everything. So, yeah, I mean, I... But...↗

1:29:04@gc22gcI can't answer for him, so I will ask him because that's a tough question and I just can't answer for him. But yeah, no, it's like what Ian and I are in the beginning, what we're saying is it's been demoralizing and it's been tough, yeah. So I'll get back to you.↗

1:29:31@g0dfr0yThank you very much. I appreciate it. And just to add one more little thing, I think a lot of us here find it completely suspicious. Well, I don't because I know why, that he won't investigate his own assassination, which is the biggest giveaway to a lot of us as well. So thank you. I appreciate it.↗

1:29:48@gc22gcWell, you know what's funny? This is another OTR. I asked Steve, what...↗

1:29:55@gc22gcSo if you don't mind, I'm going to tag you in a post in the Purple Pill. There's a 15-minute video.↗

1:30:16@g0dfr0yby Propaganda and Company, where he explains his theory, which I agree with completely, about Butler, which is that it was a ritual to mark him as a bondservant to Israel. And he goes beat by beat and even has quotes from rabbis.↗

1:30:30Ian MalcolmGodfroy, just because I know that you did that space and I was fortunate enough to listen in on kind of this exact thing, the way that you just described it, I'm sure for Grace and anybody in the audience that hasn't thought of this angle, it probably sounds a little bit crazy, right? But, I mean, you do make a very compelling point.↗

1:30:52Ian MalcolmI know that video, I did watch that, but I was very...↗

1:31:21@g0dfr0yHe goes through it beat by beat and provides all the specific info. But basically, the premise is that the Bible verse Exodus 21.6, Then his master took him before a doorpost and pierced his ear with an awl for everyone to see, and from then on he shall be his master for life. So this was meant to mark Donald Trump. And what propaganda company gets into is that they couldn't be as obvious as to literally pierce his ear with a shank or a knife or whatever.↗

1:31:56@g0dfr0yThey had to do it in a way that was translatable to the public. And this forum of Butler was the way that they chose to do it. And it makes perfect sense. And so the idea is that his ear was pierced, even though I don't think his ear was actually hit. I think there was a blood packet or something in there. And I think he was in on it.↗

1:32:20@g0dfr0yAnd it was done to mark him as a bondservant per that Bible verse. And that explains why the photographers were waved over, why the Iwo Jima photo, why he was allowed to yell, fight, fight, fight in an active shooter situation. Violating All Known Secret Service Protocols. And there's a rabbi in the clip detailing why they think that he's marked as a bond servant.↗

1:32:50@g0dfr0ySo it's not even like our own opinion, it's what they're saying. And I will put that video in the pill for you, but that's the basic premise. Oh, it is? Okay, wonderful. Thank you. Yeah, it's up there, but I hope that helps. I know it does sound a little out there, but... If you watch that video, it goes kind of beat by beat and articulates it quite well.↗

1:33:10@g0dfr0yAnd that explains furthermore why Trump is not investigating his own assassination because he was in on the whole thing. And that is the only thing that explains this to me because he's not a threat of any kind to the deep state. Clearly, he's not prosecuting Epstein or COVID or anything else. He's the keynote speaker at Davos.↗

1:33:32@g0dfr0yThank you. And we did a space on it as well.↗

1:34:04@gc22gcI'll definitely watch it. Sounds very interesting.↗

1:34:09@joann_marieI know it sounds crazy, but these people are not normal. They are literally trying to find the perfect red cow to sacrifice it and bring the Antichrist. And I know that also sounds crazy, but just look it up.↗

1:34:20Ian MalcolmThat's why I wanted Godfroy to say it when he initially did. It kind of sounds a little out there. Grace, they do walk through it in a way that is so compelling that it... It's one of those things that it just makes so much sense when you hear it out that it's unsettling. I'm not going to say that I can say with 100% confidence that that's what was going on, but man, the...↗

1:34:41@gc22gcI'm very open-minded. Yeah, it doesn't... I like to watch those kind of things and get different perspectives. So, yeah, it actually doesn't sound weird to me. So, I'll watch it.↗

1:34:55Ian MalcolmAnd I don't know if Steve talked about this in his show, but... Another example would be the red heifers, right? This unblemished red heifers being sacrificed to bring about the Third Temple of David. It's like if I told somebody they're taking these cattle from Texas and they're shipping them across the Atlantic Ocean to Israel so they can be sacrificed by rabbis to try and bring about the Antichrist, people would say, you're totally crazy.↗

1:35:21Ian MalcolmAnd then sure enough, they're actively doing that. And so it makes the things like what Godfroy just say maybe not sound all that crazy because we know that these really, really wealthy people are actually into this kind of mysticism and all this other kind of bizarre stuff, which actually, even today, I don't know if you saw this, Grace, it came out, I guess somebody from Trump's family suggested that he holds essentially the Zohar, which is the Kabbalistic↗

1:35:51Ian MalcolmI haven't heard that. Is there a post?↗

1:36:22Ian MalcolmHere you go. Marla Maples, Trump's ex-wife, claims that he carries the Jewish Zohar with him. And Grok responded, in a recent Channel 12 interview, Marla Maples said that Trump carries the book of Pinchas from the Zohar over his heart inside clothing for protection and healing. I'm not even kidding you. And it's like, this is the same guy that...↗

1:36:49Ian MalcolmMark Levin has now announced twice. He's announced Donald Trump as the first Jewish president. Right. I mean, there's all these things. It's just like, and there's also, I know that this, again, it sounds crazy, but Trump didn't put his hand on the Bible when he was sworn in as president. It's like, we can take all of these things individually, but you mix them all together and it's like, this is kind of getting creepy, guys.↗

1:37:14@gc22gcWell, I think he converted to Judaism at I think that's what I read, I think in 2017 or 2018. I forgot when, but I think that's right. But I don't know about the other stuff, but yeah, that's what I read.↗

1:37:36Ian MalcolmYeah, there's that news clip, and I know it's one of those things that it's debated and people say conspiracy this, that, and the other thing, but you start connecting all these things together and the... The Melania Trump holding the Bible with the gloves, with the hat down over her head. I mean, it looks straight out of a horror movie.↗

1:37:55Ian MalcolmMaybe I'm crazy. But when he was sworn in, surrounded by all the technocrats and all these other guys that you would have thought were against him. And then you add in the thing that Godfrey was just saying about the pierced ear. And I know it all sounds really crazy, but just like with the red heifers, it sounds totally nuts.↗

1:38:17Ian MalcolmThese are the things these people are actively doing. It's just so bizarre.↗

1:38:21@joann_marieYeah, like it doesn't matter if you believe it or not. They believe that. So that's what matters. And they are actively pursuing that.↗

1:38:29@gc22gcSo it's crazy. Right. Well, you know, one of the things is, you know, from like the it's just to me, it's crazy. But, you know, I mean, there truly are people in and I've tweeted this. People in Congress that believe that the Iran war, I mean, it's like it will help bring back Jesus. I mean, I'm not saying it correctly.↗

1:39:00@gc22gcI'm Christian, but I'm Calvinist. So I don't believe that the evangelical part of it, but that's what a lot of...↗

1:39:12@gc22gcI love how the people that think that starting World War III and Armageddon is going to bring Jesus back, and they don't consider how happy he's going to be with them for starting World War III.↗

1:39:26@malleusigYeah, I mean...↗

1:39:42@gc22gcThat's another topic.↗

1:39:45Ian MalcolmNo, and I know we got a lot of hands, and I see one of the absolute superstars from down under. So, Grace, I want to introduce you to the incomparable Bitcoin maximalist, Mr. Funk Machine. Funky Fresh, any thoughts or questions for Grace here?↗

1:40:03@gc22gcOh, my God. How do you do, beautiful people? Hope you're all well. Ian, thanks for hosting another banger, mate, and JoAnn and Rabbi. Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

1:40:41@gc22gcIt's all part of the agenda 2025, the whole American Heritage Foundation spreading American imperialism and getting rid of the city of London the way that it's going about it. What is your viewpoint? I think it's Israel's war. I think it's for their whole greater Israel project. It's not our war. I think we shouldn't be in it.↗

1:41:12@gc22gcWell, you don't even need to speak anymore because I think you're correct. You passed the test. I'll hand it back over to you, Ian.↗

1:41:22Ian MalcolmGrace has been very direct with some of her thoughts on what's going on in Israel. Grace, I can certainly appreciate that because I know it's a controversial topic, of course, for a lot of right-wing commentators.↗

1:41:35@gc22gcYeah, and I just don't think it should be. To me, it's just really... I mean, even if we have different opinions, I just don't understand how people can get so upset. Anyway, you know what I mean. But yeah, no, I'm totally against the war. It's not our war. It's all Israel, and it's just really sad. Awesome. Well, thank you for answering my question.↗

1:42:06@gc22gcThank you. Just to let everyone know, get off zero. Do it with an air-gapped laptop nowadays. Don't forget to roll the dice. All right, thank you.↗

1:42:14Ian MalcolmTake care. Mr. Funky Fresh, always got to have the orange coin. Lots of love down under to Mr. Funk Machine. Let's go to Miss Mulberry.↗

1:42:31@gc22gcHey, thanks, everybody. Love the conversation. I was just curious, Grace, on what your thoughts are with our government when it comes to farming and food sovereignty. We're losing 77 farms a day in our country. It's not sustainable. And I wanted your opinion about the four meat packing companies and about Trump saying he was going to investigate them for price fixing because they've been doing that and they've been hiring a lot of undocumented workers or illegal immigrants, whatever people want to call them.↗

1:43:01@gc22gcI don't know too much of the specifics, but as far as like with farming and all that, I'm for deportation, like everybody, you know,↗

1:43:29@gc22gcGiving those jobs to Americans. And, you know, I'm really disappointed. There's a lot of things that's going on with farming, you know, with Secretary Rowlands, because she's a big ad, you know, so it's just been very, very disappointing. I just, I can't really comment too much because I just don't know the specifics. But, but I just, it's just terrible because, I mean,↗

1:43:53@gc22gcThank you for being honest about it. Yeah, I just can't comment more because I don't know the specifics, but...↗

1:44:32@joann_marieAm I right? Is that...↗

1:44:39@gc22gcThank you for giving your insight on what you do know and thank you for speaking out about it because our farmers are under attack in our country and what's happening with the meatpacking companies. You know, two of them aren't even owned by Americans. They're owned by China and owned by Brazil, JBS. So it is absolutely crazy and we need to have national security over our food in our country.↗

1:44:59@gc22gcOh, absolutely. Just to add to that, I mean, I am friends with Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

1:45:32Ian MalcolmThank you for joining us today.↗

1:45:44Ian MalcolmI don't wanna call it e-commerce, but a connectivity platform, right? Because this goes beyond just purchasing something from a vendor. It has to do with building a community that's gonna be more sustainable. And also, we were just talking about this the other day within the farming community, it's gonna be able to keep resources within that local community rather than sending out to the mega corporations, right?↗

1:46:04Ian MalcolmThat are just essentially kind of leeching off of that productivity.↗

1:46:10@gc22gcYeah, they take a massive cut. You know, everyone wants to complain about farmers saying that they're the reason why beef and chicken and all this stuff is so expensive in the stores when it's really not the farmers. We get very little of the cut, you know, and that's why we're trying to cut out the middleman. And so people just buy directly from their local farmers and just people getting to know the farmers because when you know the farmer, you get to know the food.↗

1:46:34@gc22gcSo thank you.↗

1:46:39@joann_marieThank you for everything you're doing, Mulberry. Sorry, go for it, Rabbi.↗

1:46:43@malleusigI was just going to add that, Mulberry, I think that I also very much agree with the idea that people need to start buying food locally more. Local food is not only better for the economy, it's much healthier for you because the food was raised in the same environment that nurtures you, that you find yourself in, and it's going to be much better for your body over time.↗

1:47:06@malleusigSo I just want to put my... Hat in the ring on that one as well. Big support for that.↗

1:47:13@gc22gcThank you so much. Yeah, we need to eat locally and seasonally. It's best for our gut health. And when we have a healthy gut, we have a healthy brain and then we can have healthy spirit and strong communities and we can fix our country. That's why we say freedom starts with food.↗

1:47:32@joann_marieThank you, Mallory. All right, let's go to the next person. Miss Lou, welcome.↗

1:47:39@misslewzerThank you very much, Ian. Thank you, JoAnn, Rabbi. Grace, loving my bill blaster. Oh, my God. She's not paying me to say this. But since the midterms are literally less than two months away, and I'll tell everybody this. Our existential enemy is the CCP, and I know you know, Grace, that Steve knows that. And I just, sorry, Godfrey, but I do, I respect so much of you, Godfrey, you know you do.↗

1:48:10@misslewzerI do want to say this, that since the midterms are so close, we have to, as best we can, vet our, you know, I'm going to sit here and shill the GOP because they've been really bad on performance and messaging, okay? But we have to understand that much about the Democrat Party has been taken over by the DSA. So we have to be really, really careful because if we let the left back in, you know, you remember Nina Jankiewicz and Biden's Ministry of Truth and everything that was going around on these platforms to dump conservatives and everything else?↗

1:48:49@misslewzerWell, that will come back. And X will be in big danger if we don't at least keep the present and try and change the party. Three parties is not the answer, okay? That doesn't work. I'm an old bass boomer. My mom worked for Reagan and Goldwater. I'm 73 years old, and I've seen a bit around the planet. So I will say this.↗

1:49:15@misslewzerWork hard. Here's what I want to say. Grace, you'll recognize this. Ask yourself. What is my task and what is my purpose? If that purpose is to save my country, this country will be saved. And that's all I have to say about that. And I do think that many of us who came from MAGA, who came from the Republican side and are very disappointed in many, many ways.↗

1:49:43@misslewzerBelieve me, I get it. Everything you guys have been saying and touching on, there's so much truth to it. But that being said, Broaden the picture out a little bit and decide, since we are a two-party system, which side do you want to put in power for now till we can reset? The idea of MAGA originally was to reset the Republican Party away from the globalist, away from the elitist standards and the deep state in this country.↗

1:50:13@misslewzerThat was the whole point of it, to get it back to the working class and the populace. We have to keep fighting for that, okay? And we can't let the other side take it because if we do, we are going to have open borders. That is the first thing that will happen, guys. There won't be any more borders. So I'm just going to land with that thought.↗

1:50:36@misslewzerYou know, everybody to their own conscience, but do vote. Don't sit it out. You know, I'm not going to tell you how to vote. I sort of have. So figure it out. Get your votes in. Let's keep our power, okay? Because if the other side, and you can define what it is, if the other side takes it, we will have nothing because everything will be taken from us.↗

1:51:05@misslewzerThis is how communist revolutions work. We are in a color revolution in this country right now. I go back to the Muslim Brotherhood was just kicking in when I was in California in the 60s. My God, The Weather Underground, all those guys were around when I was in college. And all those commies became parents.↗

1:51:25Ian MalcolmAnd their kids... Miss Lou, who ideated communism?↗

1:51:29@misslewzerI'm sorry?↗

1:51:29Ian MalcolmWho ideated communism?↗

1:51:32@misslewzerYou mean who originated it?↗

1:51:33Ian MalcolmNo, I mean ideated, but you can use originated. It's essentially one and the same if it's an intellectual idea.↗

1:51:37@misslewzerYou're talking about the Bolsheviks?↗

1:51:40Ian MalcolmNo, the Bolsheviks did not ideate communism.↗

1:51:43@misslewzerActually, it was before the Jacobins, but it was the same group. No, it was the same group that George Orwell and Fabians.↗

1:51:51Ian MalcolmYou think Karl Marx was the Fabians?↗

1:51:54@misslewzerYeah, the Fabians actually got it going because George Orwell was... You're serious? I'm serious.↗

1:52:01Ian MalcolmI'm talking about... What year did George Orwell write 1984, Miss Lou?↗

1:52:05@misslewzerI don't have a year on that. I'm so sorry. It's an old memory. But I do know.↗

1:52:09Ian MalcolmBut it's decades. I mean, we're talking like 70 years after communism was ideated.↗

1:52:14@misslewzerThat's true. Communism, if you look at it, was actually started in 1913.↗

1:52:19Ian MalcolmNo.↗

1:52:21@misslewzerAround the time of 1913.↗

1:52:22Ian MalcolmThat's not when it was ideated.↗

1:52:26@misslewzerWell, you educate me, son. What do you think?↗

1:52:28Ian MalcolmWell, I mean, you can use son, but I mean, that's kind of strange because now I'm educating the adult here, I guess, but... That's okay.↗

1:52:36@misslewzerI have no ego that way. If I can learn something, I learn something. No, that's fine.↗

1:52:39Ian MalcolmKarl Marx ideated communism. He did it, of course, with Engels in the Communist Manifesto. Yes, yes, yes, yes. And they did so in collaboration with a guy named Moses Hess. Now, do you know what Moses Hess wrote?↗

1:52:53@misslewzerI can't remember the name.↗

1:52:54Ian MalcolmOkay, so he wrote a book called Rome and Jerusalem.↗

1:52:57@misslewzerRome and, yes, that's right.↗

1:52:58Ian MalcolmYeah, do you know what that is essentially the foundational text of?↗

1:53:04@misslewzerYou're going to say the Torah?↗

1:53:05Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no. Now we're now we're talking centuries apart. No, not the Torah. And I don't mean I'm not trying to shame anybody. But but no, that was the founding text of Zionism.↗

1:53:15@misslewzerYes.↗

1:53:16Ian MalcolmSo the guy who ideated the idea of Zionism was an intellectual collaborator with Karl Marx, who wrote the founding principles of communism in the Communist Manifesto. Right. Which was then put into place by both the Bolsheviks. You're totally correct on that. They were overt communists. who then sent out of the Comintern, they sent out the people that were responsible essentially for the founding of the CCP.↗

1:53:40Ian MalcolmSo I agree with you that communism is very bad. But if we're going to look at the communists, who were they? How did that come to the United States? Who were behind the crisis?↗

1:53:50@misslewzerBut, Ian, then you've got to look at so much like, you know, the British banking systems, the Rothschilds.↗

1:53:56Ian MalcolmYeah, we can look at the Rothschilds. I agree with you, Ms. Lee.↗

1:53:59@misslewzerWe can look at the Rothschilds. I mean, it spreads out.↗

1:54:02@malleusigWe can look at the British banking system, too.↗

1:54:04@misslewzerIt's like a spider web.↗

1:54:07@malleusigI agree with that. But every spiderweb has a center.↗

1:54:10@joann_marieThe Oppenheimers, the Sheaves, the Rothschilds, what are they?↗

1:54:17@malleusigAnd what was Karl Marx's original family name?↗

1:54:22@joann_marieMordecai Levy.↗

1:54:24@malleusigThat's right, that's right. His father's name was Herschel Levy. His grandfather, who was a rabbi, was named Mordecai Levy. So... I think there are definite threads we can pull in the spider web.↗

1:54:42@misslewzerOf course, of course. No argument there. But bringing us to the present, which is what we are facing in less than three months.↗

1:54:51@joann_marieAnd the Muslim Brotherhood are not communists.↗

1:54:55@misslewzerWell, they came out of a communist group, and they also came out of... That's why they're calling it the Red-Green Alliance today, because much of it also was connected with Russia. And, you know, when, was it Kaminsky who sent, right after Lenin took power, they went into Baku. Lenin was Chinese, right? Lenin? No, no, he was a Mormon.↗

1:55:31Ian MalcolmOh, that's right. Sorry, Rabbi.↗

1:55:34@misslewzerMormon, okay.↗

1:55:34@malleusigDamn Mormons are at the bottom of everything.↗

1:55:37@misslewzerThere you go. We're going to hit the Mormons now. Okay. Just so you guys know, I am not aligned with any formalized religion at all. I believe in God. I believe God made mankind and mankind made religions. So we can sit and talk about religions endlessly. And what has been the source of much problem, strife, even murder in the world?↗

1:56:01Ian MalcolmI don't think you're going to like the answer, though.↗

1:56:05@malleusigThe opposable thumbs are the cause of all the problems in the world.↗

1:56:09Ian MalcolmThe opposable thumb has definitely resulted in many, many, many deaths, a lot of which were at communist revolutions, including in Russia, where they murdered something like 50 million people and tens of millions more in China. both taking place at the hands of a similar group of people who also are responsible for all kinds of genocides, including the one in Palestine.↗

1:56:32Ian MalcolmBut yes, there's lots of horrors, lots of evils. I don't mean to try and box you into something, Miss Lou.↗

1:56:38@misslewzerNo, no, it's fine. It's fine. I enjoy... See, I'm not one of those people that goes into... I don't like echo chambers. You know, I like going into places where I don't necessarily agree with everything you guys are saying.↗

1:56:52Speaker 3You're literally going to Tom Slocan's space or you're going to the town square. But she's here now.↗

1:56:57@joann_marieShe's just hearing different.↗

1:56:59Speaker 3You do like your ego chambers where you're all just as stupid as each other. You're your own boomer takes. Claiming the Muslim Brotherhood. Can you tell me which country the Muslim Brotherhood was established in? Are you that dumb? You cite the Muslims, you don't even know where they're from? Egypt, Egypt in 1932. Do you know what their objective was in 1932 and what they were doing?↗

1:57:27Speaker 3Yes, you know, you're a know-nothing. Seriously, you just, next time just keep quiet. Don't let people know.↗

1:57:32@malleusigCan we, can we bring the attacking our friends down to a minimum?↗

1:57:35Speaker 3Can we save it for enemies? Rabbi, you don't have to defend the insufferable and the stupid. I know you relate to them. Oh my God. Now, Miss Blue, 1932, do you know what they were doing since you like studying them so much? What were they doing?↗

1:57:50@misslewzerNo, I just, I just had, I didn't study them.↗

1:57:52Speaker 3They were building schools, hospitals, and they were building roads. That's right, for many years, actually.↗

1:57:57@misslewzerIn which country?↗

1:57:58Speaker 3Egypt.↗

1:58:00@misslewzerOkay.↗

1:58:00Speaker 3That's right. Now, how did they get to America since you think they're a threat to America?↗

1:58:05@misslewzerThey were a threat to America in the 60s in California.↗

1:58:08Speaker 3How so? Oh, really? How did they get to America? Just like Hezbollah somehow got to America too, right? And they're also under South America? Because that's just whatever the Jewish media tells you? They're not a threat to America. For fuck's sake, Jesus. Can you tell me how the Mujahideen was established in 1979?↗

1:58:28@misslewzerI don't know much about the Mujahideen.↗

1:58:30Speaker 3Do you know who they are?↗

1:58:34@malleusigI really don't see how this is pertinent to the discussion.↗

1:58:41Speaker 3Well, it is because it has to do with her ignorance of these Islamic groups that she thinks she knows so much about that pose a threat to America when in fact... Ms. Luth, did you at any point state that you know a lot about these Islamic groups?↗

1:58:54@malleusigNo, I did not.↗

1:58:55Speaker 3And why did you cite the Muslim Brotherhood with some kind of authority thinking they're connected to communism?↗

1:59:01@joann_marieMs. Luth, did you at any point state that you were speaking from a position of authority? Who was maybe mistaken and... She was mistaken.↗

1:59:06Speaker 3Just a... Honest mistake, right? But you didn't want to mention that communism derives from Judaism and that Lenin is in fact Vladimir Ulyanov because he changed his name because he was Jewish, half Jewish. You didn't want to mention any of that, right? Or that Trotsky was also Jewish, Stalin was also Jewish. So like 80% of the leadership, the commissars in the USSR were Jewish.↗

1:59:26Speaker 3The Mao Zedong was a Mossad agent, you know, mentored by Grigory Boytinsky and Israel Epstein. But you knew all that too, right, Mislav?↗

1:59:33@misslewzerI knew that Epstein was very connected worldwide with a lot of these people.↗

1:59:37Speaker 3Israel Epstein, you moron. They're not related.↗

1:59:39@misslewzerWhoa.↗

1:59:41Speaker 3Wait, wait, wait. Jesus Christ. Ladies, seriously. How old are you?↗

1:59:45@malleusigI'm going to talk to Ms. Liu real quick. How old are you? Ms. Liu, you don't have to take this, okay? You can ignore all of this and just go on.↗

1:59:53@joann_marieNo, she's learning. There is a lot of people that don't know any of these people.↗

1:59:57@misslewzerI'm actually very well educated.↗

2:00:03Speaker 3Have a decent IP. I am educated. Are you?↗

2:00:07@misslewzerYes, I am.↗

2:00:08Speaker 3What year was the Communist Manifesto drafted?↗

2:00:10@misslewzer1848.↗

2:00:13Speaker 3Thank you. That's brilliant. Das Kapital? Can you tell me who the authors were?↗

2:00:19@misslewzerNo, I do not have your knowledge historically of the dates of the Communist.↗

2:00:24Speaker 3What is it you're educated on?↗

2:00:26@misslewzerI actually have a degree in English.↗

2:00:29Speaker 3I also have a degree in Motion Picture Sciences from USC.↗

2:00:42Speaker 3Have you ever put out any good documentaries?↗

2:00:45@misslewzerNo, but I made... No, but I was a producer of commercials for 40 years and made a pretty good living.↗

2:00:51Speaker 3You made commercials. You mean those distractions. You represented corporate America to what? Which is so just indispensable in basically inputting subliminal messaging to brainwashing people into buying shit they don't need.↗

2:01:01@misslewzerSo you're part of the brainwash... Actually, if you want to continue to be insulting, that's fine. But it won't get... No, let's just be respectful and let's just move on. It won't get you anywhere. It says more about you, Truth, than it does about me. It says more about you than it does about me.↗

2:01:23Speaker 3I looked down on boomers like you because you're the reason why the country's shit. Because you watched it go to shit. What did you do after JFK was killed? Did you stand up to these assassins or even figure out why he got shot dead?↗

2:01:34@misslewzerI was 10 years old and saw it on television. And then what?↗

2:01:39Speaker 3Did you go learn about why it happened?↗

2:01:41@misslewzerTruth.↗

2:01:48@misslewzerI know you're going to blame Israel.↗

2:01:50Speaker 3Well, why do you think it happened?↗

2:01:54@misslewzerI think it happened for a lot of different reasons. I think JFK was trying to shut down the CIA.↗

2:02:01Speaker 3So, go on. So, you think it was the CIA that did it?↗

2:02:04@misslewzerNo, I think it was several groups that did it.↗

2:02:07Speaker 3When did he first say he was going to shut down the CIA?↗

2:02:10@misslewzerI wanted to shut down the CIA because they were very much involved in, let's just say, changing governments around the world that he didn't agree with.↗

2:02:21Speaker 3The Bay of Pigs evasion in Cuba in 1961. In 1961, yes. So good luck, good job on the dates, good luck, good job on why. So well educated, aren't you? What else did JFK oppose? What was his connection to Israel?↗

2:02:38@misslewzerI don't know about his connection to Israel.↗

2:02:41Speaker 3You don't know that he was dealing directly with David Ben-Gurion and he wants to investigate the Dimona nuclear reactor site because they were somehow getting a hold of highly enriched uranium that they did not have the ability to produce because they were actually stealing uranium from America through the Pneumatic affair in a plant in Apollo, Pennsylvania that was led by one Zalman Shapiro.↗

2:03:01Speaker 3You knew that too, right?↗

2:03:04@misslewzerI don't have a hatred of Jews that you do.↗

2:03:06Speaker 3Oh, that's a hatred of Jews to point out. So when Jews steal highly enriched uranium from the U.S., you're okay with them stealing. That's hatred of Jews to point that out? That Zalman Shapiro, through his contact, Meyer Lenski, who's a mafia mafioso criminal, yeah, Jewish as well, who was managing the ports, was shipping uranium legally to Israel so they could produce a nuclear weapon without disclosing it.↗

2:03:30Speaker 3Do you even know why they were producing a nuclear weapon?↗

2:03:38@malleusigOkay, let's... Guys, I'm sorry.↗

2:03:47Ian MalcolmNo, no, hang on. We don't need to mute anybody. But what I can do, rather than going too far down on the specifics, I'll tell you something crazy because this, it exemplifies what Truth Teller is getting to, which is that there is kind of a common denominator and it is so vast in scale. The degree to which all of these things are really uncomfortably interconnected, so much so.↗

2:04:11Ian MalcolmSo since you're talking about JFK, right? We could look at the assassination of John F. Kennedy, right? We can look at the person who shot Lee Harvey Oswald, right? That guy, Jack Ruby, right? His actual name was Jacob Rubenstein. And yes, he was part of that group, right? Okay, so no big deal, right? Except then we go to his lawyer.↗

2:04:34Ian MalcolmRight? And his lawyer in his autobiography said that Jack Ruby told him multiple times that he killed Lee Harvey Oswald for the Jews because he wanted to protect people from connecting the death of JFK to the Jews. Now you might say, okay, well that's Jack Ruby. He's just the crazy hit man who killed the hit man. Why would we care about him?↗

2:04:55Ian MalcolmRight? But then we look at Bobby Kennedy, JFK's brother, right? So then he gets assassinated. Right, while he's on the campaign trail. Now, his press manager just happens to be the same guy who was then the press manager of all things for the movie JFK. Right now, okay, not a big deal, right? No, that's not a huge deal.↗

2:05:19Ian MalcolmHe also was the guy, oh, by the way, that told Bobby Kennedy to go out through the room in which he was assassinated. But again, hey, that's just a random coincidence. You know what's not though? When we start looking at that movie, And then we look at the producer of the movie, Arnon Milchan. This is a Israeli billionaire who produced the movie, who also, I am not kidding you with what I'm about to tell you.↗

2:05:45Ian MalcolmLook up Project Pinto. It was the Israeli operation by which they stole the nuclear switches so that they could make nuclear bombs with the stolen plutonium or uranium that they got from Newmec in the Apollo affair, right? So, so think about this. Arnon Milchan, he is a billionaire Israeli who has produced 150 Hollywood blockbuster films, right?↗

2:06:10Ian MalcolmThe guy has, he's connected to De Niro. He's connected to all these Hollywood big shots. He literally stole the nuclear switches with none other than Benjamin Netanyahu, the billionaire producer of the movie about the quote-unquote conspiracy behind the death of JFK.↗

2:06:30@misslewzerIan, what year did that happen that the switches were stolen, do you know? It was in the 70s. Yeah, 70s, okay. Yeah, that's when Milchung was really powerful.↗

2:06:44Speaker 3He's literally 1979 and 1983. Wow, I thought the English dream age was so educated here. Let's just be very special. Ms. Liu, let's think about that, right? You want to tell us also about who stole Prime Software? Prime Software, which is used to surveil countries across the world, the predecessor to, of course, Pegasus software, and who was actively selling it?↗

2:07:06Speaker 3One Rafi Etan, a Mossad agent. That's right. He stole it from the Justice Department. Do you know who the leader of the Justice Department was, Chief of Staff, that allowed him to do that? One Mark Levin, yes, he's also a Jew. Rafi Etan, yes, also a Jew. Do you know who he was selling? It was the active salesman for Prime Software.↗

2:07:22Speaker 3So the US and Israel, specifically spinal countries, Robert Maxwell. That's right. Now you can make the Epstein connection. He was doing that all throughout the 80s. While he was also, what, bought out the Daily Mirror and of course owning Pergamon Press, which controls which medical journals we get access to in the universities where you're so well educated, where you get to read Robert Maxwell or McGraw-Hill education textbooks that he publishes.↗

2:07:47Speaker 3Is that hating on the Jews or just connecting a few data points your little brain might not be able to process?↗

2:07:51Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on, hang on. And so, Ms. Liu, I was trying to bring that story up, because talking about JFK, and it just goes to show and to illustrate how deep this problem is, right? You've got the death of a president certainly connected, if not entirely a result of this set of interests, right? That not only then are able to prospectively kill the brother of that president who wanted to reopen the investigation into his brother's death because he didn't believe what was happening, but then after they take him out, then they make a movie to rewrite the conspiracy theory after literally↗

2:08:50Speaker 3Let me ask you guys a question.↗

2:08:54Ian MalcolmMs. Liu, just out of curiosity.↗

2:08:56@misslewzerLet me ask you guys a question.↗

2:08:58Ian MalcolmMs. Liu, before, because I want to try and make sure that this is productive and I especially want to respect the time of grace. Of course. Well, hang on, hang on.↗

2:09:04Speaker 3Ms. Liu, you would agree. Ms. Liu, you would agree that it is pretty insane that an Israeli billionaire↗

2:09:19Ian Malcolmwho has funded 150 or so Hollywood blockbuster films that are fed to Americans, that that individual has acknowledged on camera, sitting next to Robert De Niro, if I'm not mistaken, that he was not only a spy for Israel, but that he was responsible for stealing this material of all people with Benjamin Netanyahu so that Israel could make nuclear bombs.↗

2:09:46Ian MalcolmIt's pretty insane that that's the person behind the movie that tells the quote unquote conspiracy of the death of JFK. Wouldn't you agree that's pretty wild?↗

2:09:59@joann_marieHe also didn't get punished at all. He can still enter America and is literally an Israeli spy who stole.↗

2:10:07Speaker 3Did Meyer Lansky ever get punished for anything?↗

2:10:09Ian MalcolmHe died of old age and he had $300 million. And Grace, just to bring it back to you, and I'm sorry, I'm sure this was an information overload. Grace, I'm not sure if you've ever heard any of these kind of aspects of all of this stuff. But when people start to look back and they realize the Apollo affair and that literally the materials to make nuclear weapons were stolen from America, the switches to then activate that nuclear material stolen from America.↗

2:10:37Ian MalcolmLike Truth was talking about the Demona reactor where they knew that they were trying to enrich this to build a nuclear bomb. And JFK said, I don't trust you guys. And then he just happens to get whacked while he's also trying to enforce, essentially, FARA on the Israeli lobbying group. And then we get- But Ian, Ian, with all this history-↗

2:10:58@misslewzerTruth, if I may, since you continue to... Truth, let me ask a question. May I ask a question, please? Thank you.↗

2:11:16@misslewzerAnd I know other people have hands and they want to talk, and I apologize if I'm holding up. But what do you guys see... In light of all this, the Jewish spider web, what do you see as the solution for this? What do you possibly think?↗

2:11:35Speaker 3I get this question all the time. It's funny. You can't think outside of the box or ever come up with a solution yourself. And that's why, because of people like you who are in the situation we're in, because you're useless. I'm asking you, Truth, what's your solution? What's your solution? If you'll shut the fuck up, I'll tell you.↗

2:11:50Speaker 3Just try to be respectful. Thank you. Thank you, old lady. Thank you. So in terms of solution, you boycott all of their businesses, starting with... First and foremost, the political system. You think voting actually matters? If voting actually worked, they wouldn't let you do it, which you propose. For what reason? Because you want to play into that AIPAC Jewish-run system.↗

2:12:10Speaker 3Next, you boycott the healthcare industry by taking agency of your own health so you don't hold up, you know, basically brain-dead, decrepit, senile, and stupid like you and know nothing. So this way you can actually regain agency of your brain and start thinking critically and stop asking so many stupid questions you'd probably be able to answer for yourself.↗

2:12:26Speaker 3What else? Boycott the financial system. Figure out how to live below your debt, live below your means, minimize your debt loads, and learn about decentralized finance so this way you can accumulate some kind of wealth.↗

2:13:05Speaker 3So you completely boycott their system. In addition to, of course, boycotting the sports, entertainment system, the Netflix, all the other brain rot where they input subliminal messaging, stuff that you used to do in your commercials. Boycott all that. Cut your cable. Stop watching your beloved Fox News and CNN.↗

2:13:21@misslewzerDo you honestly think that's going to happen? Are you realistic enough to think that's gonna happen? We haven't watched TV in 10 years.↗

2:13:30Speaker 3Okay, let's move on. Not with you. No, your generation's a lost cause. This is for the Gen Z, the millennials. Your generation's just gonna die off, hopefully, as soon as possible. If you go to Canada and do it in Eastern Asia, by the way, or Switzerland, it's legal there. Look into it. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on.↗

2:13:44Speaker 1So, to bring it full circle, and then I'm gonna be curious for some of Grace's↗

2:13:53Ian MalcolmA very simple question. If BDS didn't work, why would it be illegal in 38 states to do it? No, of course. And look, Ms. Lu can answer that if she can think outside of the box. We're not interviewing Ms. Lu, though.↗

2:14:24Ian MalcolmAnd Miss Lou, what I would say too, and look, I think Truth gave a lot of very pragmatic solutions in terms of things that people can do. But before they can do those things, they have to become aware of what's going on, right? And I would be willing to fathom that maybe one in 10,000 people understand that not only was JFK prospectively killed by this group of people, but they have so much power that they were able to completely rewrite not only the Hollywood and the academic understanding of what↗

2:14:52Ian MalcolmExactly took place, and like Truth said, to literally own the textbooks that would share that information. But then of all things, the guy that was responsible for the press of Bobby Kennedy's campaign, and then for the JFK film, he then went on to literally run NPR radio for two and a half decades, right? These people have controlled not just the textbooks and television and the, let's say the movie theaters.↗

2:15:17Ian MalcolmBut literally the airwaves of the radio that you drive around listening to, right? They control everything, is the full spectrum ownership of all information. And so people need to become educated on some of these very uncomfortable truths. Because until they can, then we're not gonna be able to do any of the things that Truth mentioned because they're not gonna be aware that they should, right?↗

2:15:39Ian MalcolmAnd so that's what we're gonna try and do, which is why, Miss Lou, even though- That's a good point, Ian.↗

2:15:44@misslewzerThat's a very good point.↗

2:15:45Ian MalcolmI don't know, Grace had...↗

2:16:08Ian MalcolmHave you ever heard of any of those aspects of the Kennedy assassination or the JFK film or any of those other pieces?↗

2:16:15Speaker 4USS Liberty, for instance, that the Jews did in 1967. Did you know that we did that?↗

2:16:19@gc22gcYes, I've heard all of it. And but, you know, I recently learned that I didn't know that JFK said to get rid of AIPAC. And that was like one of the reasons.↗

2:16:33Speaker 4It was the American Zionist Council that was supposed to get registered with FAIR, then they rebranded it into APAC.↗

2:16:39@gc22gcYeah, I just recently learned that. So that was a new one for me. But no, everything sounds familiar. And Ms. Liu, thanks for the shout out for Bill Blaster. But what Truth was saying about boycotting, one of the things that I do is I used to love Trader Joe's. I don't shop there anymore. Just because I know that they sell Israeli products.↗

2:17:10@gc22gcSo that's one of the things that I did. But anyway, I've heard a lot of it.↗

2:17:17@malleusigAs if I wasn't following you hard enough already.↗

2:17:19@gc22gcI'm sorry?↗

2:17:21@malleusigI said as if I wasn't following you hard enough already.↗

2:17:26@gc22gcOh, well, one thing is... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway, that's all I have to say about that.↗

2:17:34Ian MalcolmWell, and to Truth's comment there, it's wild to think that these states are actively setting up rules and legislation around the inability for individuals and or government bodies to boycott Israel. And it just goes to show the power of- That's wrong. Us doing that, right?↗

2:17:52@misslewzerThat is wrong. What's wrong? Absolutely. Wait, what's wrong? To have states create laws so people- We made a huge deal about that. The BDS... I forgot what that one was about. But we had people call from the audience to...↗

2:18:28@gc22gcWe're against that.↗

2:18:30@misslewzerI think I heard that, Grace.↗

2:18:33@gc22gcYeah, that was a big one.↗

2:18:37@misslewzerAnd I disagree with any kind of control that way because free speech is free speech. End of story. And you start clamping on it like that and then where else does it go?↗

2:18:48@malleusigIt's not just that. We have court cases. We have precedents that say that where you spend your money is speech. Money is speech. So where you spend your money Your decision on where to spend your money is protected by the First Amendment. The thing with the boycott, it's not just free speech, it's coerced speech. If you're under a law that says that you're not allowed to boycott, what it's saying is you can't put your money where you want to, you have to put it in Israel's pocket.↗

2:19:19@malleusigAnd coerced speech is a more morally, constitutionally, and legally repugnant concept than simply the prohibition of free speech.↗

2:19:28@misslewzerWell, that's tyranny.↗

2:19:31@malleusigThat's another way to put it.↗

2:19:33Speaker 4That's how it is under the Trump regime.↗

2:19:35Speaker 5May I just come in?↗

2:19:39@joann_marieYeah, go for it.↗

2:19:40Ian MalcolmOf course, Raed. And I actually, I was mentioning earlier, because with Grace, Raed, I was mentioning how beautiful it is that we're building up this little intellectual support. from all across the world. We had Funk up here from down under. And I'd mentioned that we have brothers like yourself literally over in Lebanon.↗

2:20:00Ian MalcolmIt's just spectacular to have you in here with us, my friend.↗

2:20:03Speaker 5Yeah, thanks, Ian. And I wanted to come earlier because I always know, and I'm not just saying it lightly, that you bring very knowledgeable guests and the conversation is always rich. So let me start with this. Grace, I checked your page. I'm going to ask you a couple of questions. I liked what I saw, and I just follow you.↗

2:20:26Speaker 5I'll just say one thing. I'm Lebanese. I've always lived in Lebanon. In 2016, and you will not believe me, but this is honest to God the truth, when Trump got elected. And look, sometimes when you look from the outside in, And I've been looking at American politics for a long time. My mother studied in UCLA. And I always wanted to see signs of you guys realizing that Israel is not a fucking ally.↗

2:21:01Speaker 5There's no... Judy O'Christian Values is like for me as an Orthodox Christian, a fucking staunch one, excuse my language. You tell me Judy O'Christian Values and you've lost me there. It's like, yeah, no, not really. This combination actually cancels each other, then zero value. So that's where I look. But quickly, I don't want to take a long time, but↗

2:21:31Speaker 5Looking from the outside, sometimes when you have no emotional attachment to anything, Democrats, Republicans, white, black, brown identity politics, LGBTQ or conservatism, I watch it with a cold mind, so my critical thinking is always there. I don't get distracted and I'm looking at the goal. The goal is that someone needs to dislodge↗

2:22:00Speaker 5Thank you very much.↗

2:22:30Speaker 5Being discussed in Congress, you have to ask yourself if it's good for Israel. If it's bad for Israel, you cannot say yay. You have to say nay. She said it. And then, of course, she's not in Congress and she's probably not in Washington. Another beautiful man, and he passed away. And I swear, the first time I started seeing people calling out this, when Massey on Tucker Carlson says,↗

2:22:58Speaker 5Everyone has an AIPAC handler. I'm like, I need to reach out to that man because he called AIPAC out. He called Jewish lobbies. He called Jewish influence and they destroyed them. His name is, Jesus, Italian name. It'll come. It'll come. So I wanted to message him to say, you're vindicated. They are talking about it. His name will come.↗

2:23:26Speaker 5Anyway, so to get to my question, look, so looking at Washington from the outside in, it was very clear what the problem in Washington is. Like, it is clear. And anyone who cannot see it, you understand what I'm saying? So I'll get to you, Grace, and I don't want to talk long. But it is clear. So this is the problem. It is hard to call it out the way it is because of so much conditioning.↗

2:23:58Speaker 5It's like it's easy for an American to complain about Christians or to complain about Muslims. But when it comes to that group, there's a resistance. And so I just want to ask you about the Bill Blaster, because one sign I saw with Dr. Recktenwald, I don't know if you met him, he decided to create a pack, an anti-Zionist pack.↗

2:24:18Speaker 5And I think it helps at least. It helps in feeling that you're doing something. Now, the results, I agree with Truth. And I'd say to Miss Lou, usually I say to people when they go off the mic, a lot of times I say, hold your horses. I would tell you, hold your horse. I'm just joking. So Grace, how do you see going with this?↗

2:24:44Speaker 5Because I do believe that congressmen and congresswomen and senators, they kind of...↗

2:25:11Speaker 5Thank you. I haven't talked about it yet. So the reason why we created Bill Blaster was Congress↗

2:25:40@gc22gcJust makes it so difficult for people to even find, you know, anyone's phone numbers. And, you know, our audience, War Room audience is a huge activist group. And long story short, I developed it with my friend. We just donated our time and just it became a simple app where we just put, you know, everyone's phone numbers and you can contact them.↗

2:26:03@gc22gcAnd it just grew into something bigger. Now it's the state officials and we have the bills in there. Thank you so much for joining us.↗

2:26:31@gc22gcWe had our audience reach out to their congressman to ask why there was no debate. Why did they do this quietly? And that's a big problem. And then they passed it with the NDAA in the House. So that's what we encourage our audience members and really everyone to do is to keep on calling your elected officials and to give them a piece of your mind.↗

2:27:00@gc22gcThank you so much for joining us today.↗

2:27:30@gc22gcHow did your representative vote? Now you can just look and see exactly how they voted and be able to tell your friends or whatever it is. Our audience uses it a lot. We have tens of thousands of people that have downloaded it and use it. Anybody can use it. I hope I answered your question.↗

2:28:00@gc22gcYou know, it's really a tool for the people.↗

2:28:03Speaker 5You kind of did. You know, even as a researcher, I have a study, and I'm willing to send it to you if you want, that Northwestern and Harvard cooperated on, and they studied the efficiency of your democratic system and how much the people are really represented when it comes to passing laws and all of that. So they took a thousand laws that were passed,↗

2:28:30Speaker 5and then they they looked back to see the public opinion on each one of them and then you know to try to gauge in an academic way uh how much you know the democracy is working and people are represented you know what the number was grace two percent so and that was 2011. so so again this is why when when truth says that like↗

2:29:00Speaker 5God bless you, keep doing what you're doing, I'd say, and push back wherever you can. And to Miss Lou, I'd say, if you want to know the solution, you can look at the past. Look at the past trends with the Talmudic tribe, you can see trends. and I'll leave it at that. The trends are very clear. I'll give you two numbers and then I'll shut up.↗

2:29:33Speaker 51,030 times and 109 countries. This is the trend. So yeah, the Talmudic tribe is there and whether you call it or you focus on your democracy, whatever, the trend is there and this is what we're watching. And again, as a Lebanese, My enemy is the Jewish nation. They call themselves the Jewish nation. If they called themselves the Rastafarian nation, I would have a problem with Rastafarians.↗

2:30:01Speaker 5It's just as simple as that. That nation, the idea of creating a nation on somebody else's land where the people exist, it was flawed to start with. It must include ethnic cleansing. Zionism must include ethnic cleansing. Otherwise, it's not.↗

2:30:23Speaker 5Thank God, now you guys know the truth, because you saw a genocide happening live today. My people are getting killed in southern Lebanon, and that nation is not viable. And hopefully, more of you will call it out. And again, Grace, you know what I say? I say, like, the umbilical cord that is hooked from Washington Tel Aviv needs to be dislodged from Washington, then we can deal with Tel Aviv on our own.↗

2:30:55Speaker 5Thank you.↗

2:30:58Ian MalcolmAnd I just want to call out, Raed, just because it sounded when you were talking about genocide, I know that you were specifically calling out that Zionism and essentially the Jewish state of Israel, that it is expanding itself via genocide, not calling for any violence towards that nation. Obviously, we always can. Yep.↗

2:31:20Ian MalcolmAnd Grace Raed, one of just always so loving and positive. And it's the thing that's so strange is that a lot of people would come in here and they throw around terms like hate and anti-Semitism or any of these other things. And it's I mean, it's literally us just opposing literal genocide and saying we don't want more wars.↗

2:31:39Ian MalcolmWe don't want our our fellow citizens, whether it's of the United States or anywhere, going to fight any more of these wars for this group that. Thank you so much for joining us.↗

2:32:16Ian Malcolmand military capabilities, but also the lives of who knows how many untold American children that are otherwise going to be sent to Iran to fight this war, right? To serve no benefit of the United States. And for some reason to say, I don't think that serves us. I don't want any part of it. That's terrorism and patriotism is now saying, I want to be a slave to this foreign nation and have all of my children and my neighbor's children sent to go die for them.↗

2:32:45Ian MalcolmHow has this happened? And so I apologize if any of this, Grace, has gotten a little bit heated or emotional. It's just a lot of things that we're trying to combat with love. I always joke with JoAnn, I just want to build an army of the Care Bears, and we're all going to stand out front of the White House with our little Care Bears there and shoot all of our love up into the air.↗

2:33:10Ian MalcolmWe don't want any more war as the warmongers say that we're terrorists. We're holding hands and rocking back and forth. It's all so crazy that we're the villains of the story according to Fox News.↗

2:33:23Speaker 5Isn't there a term that is popular these days? I'm going to love bomb you in romantic relationships. You want to dish out hate? We're going to dish out love to humanity and to life. and to Christ and to all any religion we're gonna we're gonna fight you with love and then the truth is gonna come out on its own and then you know things that have to happen organically evil will will leave and and love will stay right and this is the whole approach of it we refuse to become like you we will remain human we remain full of love and we will fight you viciously right because it's our land but↗

2:34:10Speaker 5Thank you for the mic, Ian. Grace, nice to meet you. Miss Lou, hold your horse. Just teasing.↗

2:34:25@misslewzerNo, no, I appreciate everything you've said, Raed, and I also, I followed you, Truth, my buddy, my new buddy. Anyway. Yeah, I think this has been an absolutely fabulous space. I mean, really great, Ian, thank you. And I am totally against this war. I was totally against the Vietnam War. I'm feeling deja vu because all the creep of that is, this is continuing it.↗

2:34:50@misslewzerAnd I just, yeah, we were told no new wars and we got fed the bullshit. So anyway, I am completely, 100% want us to get out of Iran. and start fixing the problems that we have here in our home. We need to work on ourselves and our own freedoms and our own... We need to bring the money that we spent on all these bombs and bullshit, including Ukraine, and get...↗

2:35:20@g0dfr0yBut that's the problem, Ms. Liu. Donald Trump only cares about Israel and helping Ukraine. He's not here for America. He's a 30-year Mossad asset who's been played into the White House. That's what we're dealing with.↗

2:35:34@misslewzerIt's just so sad because so many people are so disappointed who supported him so strongly. I heard you, Godfrey, talk about Butler. One of you guys talked about Butler, and I've always thought that. I thought, well, he shut down the investigation. Why the hell did he do that? But I do remember him saying at one point, and I was surprised, where he said, well, I'll just go to Israel and be the prime minister there.↗

2:35:59@misslewzerAnd I'm like, he said that. And I'm like, what the F? You know, you're having problems here at home, and people are disappointed with you, and you say, I'm just going to go to Israel and be their prime minister. They love me in Israel. Israel, I have so much love. Well, I mean, there's nothing, I just, I don't know, I just wish, like Raed was saying, that the world would turn more toward love, and that we could all somehow get along, but that doesn't seem to be our bent.↗

2:36:29@misslewzerHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

2:37:16Speaker 5I love you, but I think it's time for you to sit this one out. Let's go leave Congress. Let the people do work for their population. You have an agenda. You can do it, lovely.↗

2:37:30@misslewzerWell, I agree with that. I don't want any, whether it's Israel, any other country, you know, Slovovia, whatever, you know, I'm just joking. I don't want any country having an influence.↗

2:37:42Speaker 5Miss Lou, you've got it.↗

2:38:13Ian MalcolmAnyway, and we will keep calling out the elephant. It's pretty obvious. And Raed, I liked how you introduced the elephant with the little musical backtrack. Why don't we go, I know Godfroy had his hand up. Let's go to Godfroy for a question for Grace, and then we'll go down to Mr. Grenda.↗

2:38:31@g0dfr0yThank you, Ian. I just have a quick question for you, Grace, which is... Do you, you know, kind of based on what Ms. Liu is saying, you know, I'm kind of out of the two-party system now. I know that she is a staunch Republican. And look, I'm conservative, absolutely, in my beliefs. But like many Americans, I'm just so repulsed by Trump's betrayals and rug pulls that I will only vote for a candidate again if they're America first or America only.↗

2:39:02@g0dfr0yAnd until I see evidence of that, I'm not voting again. And I know that... This is a major problem. You have Rich Barris polling, and he's the only one that's truly telling people what's happening. Republicans are losing by seven points on a mean average in all these races in the midterms. What do you think about the idea that, this is my contention, that Trump scared off at least 20 million people from voting ever again, if not more, with just every single betrayal that he's done, every single lie?↗

2:39:35@g0dfr0yand the amount of money that him and his family have made in office. Do you share my belief that he has completely spooked people on the right from voting ever again because of how deep his betrayal has been?↗

2:39:51@gc22gcDefinitely. I mean, I think a lot of people are turned off by what he and this administration have been doing and handling. And it's a big problem. So I definitely agree with you, and I think we're going to see it in the midterms.↗

2:40:17@g0dfr0yThank you. And if I may, can I ask a quick follow-up question?↗

2:40:21Ian MalcolmOh, of course, my friend.↗

2:40:24@g0dfr0yCool. Do you think that – I'll just ask it this way. Let me rephrase it this way. What do you think Trump thought he could pull with Epstein? Because I don't understand at all his approach. It's as if he thought elections didn't matter, as if he thought people were just completely brain-dead sheep who would worship him.↗

2:40:48@g0dfr0yHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

2:41:14@g0dfr0yHippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

2:41:44@gc22gcI think that they thought they could just brush it under the rug and it would just go away. And I think they just underestimated just the response of what people, you know, just↗

2:42:14@gc22gcAll of that. So, yeah, I think that he just handled it so poorly. I mean, it's just so bad. And it's the Epstein class. I mean, that's just, or the Epstein admin. I forgot how Rich Barris calls it, but yeah.↗

2:42:37@g0dfr0yYeah, no, thank you. I agree with you. And I think, you know, my fear is, I don't want to take the space to this, this place, because I know Ian doesn't probably want to discuss this. But my fear is that Trump did that because he knows something is coming. Every action he's done has been so brazen. It just, I know he's a second term president.↗

2:42:59@g0dfr0yI get that. But It's like he just doesn't care about elections. And when you see what he said today on Wayne Allen Root's show about issuing an emergency authorization on elections, I mean, he's talking about using election fraud of China. I use that in quotes because I no longer believe the story about 2020 anymore after everything he's done.↗

2:43:27@g0dfr0yHe's talking about elections in a way that scares me. He's mentioning his third term. He's saying you're never going to have to vote again once you elect him. He's deploying the National Guard in Washington DC through 2029. He just extended it yesterday, I believe. He's doing all these things that tells me that he's maybe not concerned about midterms for a different reason.↗

2:43:52@g0dfr0yAnd again, I'm not asking you a question, I'm just telling you my theory. I worry that he's going to do some martial law type thing and he's going to suspend elections. That is where I come from and I've had spaces on that. His actions, they're too brazen to... For any politician to undertake unless he knows something is coming that we don't know is coming.↗

2:44:18@g0dfr0ySo yeah, that's just kind of my thoughts on that. Yeah, if I can answer that.↗

2:44:23@gc22gcOh, yeah, I don't know. I don't know about that. I mean, I that's, that's, I, I, I just don't think he has the balls to do that. Just like, I don't think so. And I know that Steve has said Trump 2028. He says this for a different reason. He's never going to endorse JD bands, you know? And so that's, you know, Steve's, that's Steve, you know?↗

2:45:00@gc22gcBut that's interesting. I don't know. I mean, I... I really don't know. I just don't think Trump has the balls to do that and really anything tough. So I guess we'll see. I don't know.↗

2:45:18@malleusigI think you're right, Godfrey. I don't think I agree with your conclusion necessarily, like where it's coming from. But I do agree that, for example, Biden drove the country like he'd stolen it. And Trump's driving the country like he knows it's going to break down any day. Like, I don't know if it's like he knows there's an economic collapse coming that we don't, right?↗

2:45:41@malleusigWhere it's like he's making decisions that make it seem like these things are like, they would be outrageous if it were 1997, right? But something's coming where like people are going to forget about these. Like invading Venezuela? You know, over like three days? Like, things have to be really weird for that to even be an option, first of all.↗

2:46:12@malleusigAnd again, I don't know what it is people have talked about. I think Professor Zhang talks about how Trump's actions with Iran point to a possible endgame of literally just collapsing everyone else's economy. and then relying on American production of oil to kind of take over economically, right? And then to pit Japan and China and Taiwan against each other, even though Japan and Taiwan are allies, pit them against China and then America can sell weapons and make money that way, right?↗

2:46:47@malleusigSo there's a lot of weird variables in the air and I don't know which one, but you are spot on with the way that it looks like he's driving the country. He does not care about consequences and that is a huge red flag.↗

2:47:04Ian MalcolmGrace, out of curiosity, do you think, I've seen some individuals that have suggested that there's a probability or possibility that, and Miriam Adelson even kind of hinted at this, that Trump might push for this war, escalate tensions, and utilize some kind of wartime powers to either suspend elections or do something else to maintain control above and beyond what would traditionally be expected at this point in his presidency?↗

2:47:34@gc22gcGod, I hope not. I, oh my gosh, you know, it's just, every day is just getting crazier and crazier. You know, that part.↗

2:47:50@gc22gcI pray nothing. I pray that he just, we walk away from it and he ends it. I mean, I don't, I don't know. I really don't know. And that's the scary part that is just, you know, we'll have to see. So I just pray that he ends it. That's really just my prayer.↗

2:48:19Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And I can just see it now. Trump polling with 3% approval and he'll go up and say, America has given me an edict. They're very excited. Hi Ian, I think we're in such denial that we're wishing upon a star, which it's not going to happen. And I feel like you guys are, well, not you guys, us all are in such denial that he's going to do something to better something, but he's not.↗

2:49:00Speaker 6He is driving us into a spiral that we can't fathom and our heads are spinning. And it's just, it's a crazy thing. And I wish we would get our cojones together and do something about it. Because if we don't, we're in deep trouble. So I really hope that we stop hypothetically saying, oh, he's gonna do this or that. We do something to counteract this because we're in a very deep situation and we're in a very deep problem.↗

2:49:35Speaker 6And if we don't get our act together, whether we're Democrat or Republican, we have to really get it together now because it's getting too late. And I'm sorry to say this because I feel like people are living in this bubble saying, oh, we can do this and we can do that or whatever, but we're living in denial. Really, we are.↗

2:49:59Speaker 6Because this guy is no joke. And he's doing everything to counteract everything that we're doing. So if we don't get our act together, I'm just really scared for this country and us. So I hate to say that, Ian, but it's a truth. And if we don't get it together for all of us, I don't know what's going to happen. I really don't.↗

2:50:20Speaker 6Yeah.↗

2:50:22@malleusigAnd Debbie, that's why we need to talk about what getting it together looks like. Like, for example, What do you think getting it together looks like?↗

2:50:30Speaker 6Reality. Reality. Facing the truth. Facing the truth. And saying, oh, well, we can do this, but, you know, that will happen. Whatever. We have to, like, plan. Plan. Like, really plan for things. Like, okay, he's going to do this. We have to plan to counteract that. So we have to start doing that counteractively. And we're not doing it.↗

2:50:53Speaker 6We're just, like, living in this bubble. I get it.↗

2:50:56@malleusigI get it, Debbie. I get it.↗

2:50:58Speaker 6And I'm tired of it. I'm tired of this bubble.↗

2:51:00@malleusigI know, Debbie.↗

2:51:01Speaker 6That's why we have other spaces every day. No, I know.↗

2:51:03@malleusigI'm trying to wake people up.↗

2:51:04Speaker 6I like you. That's why I'm here. I'm so sorry to say that. I'm just saying that I'm angry.↗

2:51:10@malleusigListen, I know you're angry. But again, you're more angry than you are planning right now. You think we should plan, right?↗

2:51:16Speaker 6No, I want groupthink because I don't have all the answers. I'm not so angry that I'm mad at everything. I want a plan. I want to like groupthink.↗

2:51:25@malleusigI know.↗

2:51:25Speaker 6So I'm not angry.↗

2:51:28@malleusigI get it. I get it. You're angry. But again, we should discuss the concrete steps that you want to take. For example, do you want to organize together? Because one of the best things you can do is find people locally and get together and start buying real estate. One of the best things you can do is get together locally and start growing food, right?↗

2:51:47@malleusigOne of the best things you can do is get together locally and find a lawyer and create a kind of like a legal, like, what is it? Community, you know? You can all share access to legal experts or lawyers that will help you if they try to do something like impose the COVID shots on us again, right? So these are all things you can do, but it all starts locally.↗

2:52:10@malleusigAnd then when you've built up a local group, Then we can start talking about connecting different people's local groups together into a national network. And that's how real change starts.↗

2:52:21Speaker 6Rabbit, have you ever heard, have you ever heard us to do that with Biden or Obama or other Clinton? Have we ever had to like group together to find gardens and do something together with all of us? No. No, we haven't. We've had to do this now with him, with him. To do us... Well, we honestly...↗

2:52:42@malleusigWe were talking about doing it with Biden, too. We were talking about doing it with Biden, too.↗

2:52:45Speaker 6I didn't hear that. I'm sorry. I didn't hear that.↗

2:52:48@malleusigBut, like, the point is, the best time to plant a tree is 20 years ago. The second best time is now.↗

2:52:53Speaker 6Yeah.↗

2:52:54@malleusigIsn't it?↗

2:52:54Speaker 6True. True. Yep. True.↗

2:53:02Speaker 6I just want to say that it's just so unfair that we're doing this and we're like having to gather together. And I hope we gather together with different opinions, right? Whether we be Republican, Democrat, Independent, whatever we are, I hope we can gather together and just be together and plan solutions because this government is not for us.↗

2:53:26@joann_marieJoAnn, what do you mean by we were this when? When were we this?↗

2:53:50Speaker 6What do you mean? You're telling me that we were in this situation before.↗

2:53:55@joann_marieYeah, you're just noticing it now because it's like out in the open, but it's not like it began like three years ago. It's been like this for a long time, Debbie. You just didn't know it was happening.↗

2:54:06Ian MalcolmDebbie, I can tell you when I first started doing spaces, I think Truth Teller maybe... Maybe 10,000 followers, if I'm not mistaken, roughly two, three years ago when we started on Spaces. And I see Colin, for example, down in the listener panel. When they started JQ Radio, maybe Truth had like 20,000 and I had like five.↗

2:54:29Ian MalcolmAnd we would talk in Spaces with like 35 people, right? And so now we're able to hold these kind of daily I mean, each one of Truth Spaces has like five, six, 10,000 listeners that come through, right? I mean, it's crazy the amount of growth that this kind of ideological frame has had over the course of 24 months. And if we keep doing what we're doing, it's not a solution, right?↗

2:54:56Ian MalcolmBut I do believe the solution is mass awareness to the problem. And if we can continue, and for what it's worth, it's why I try not to aim my spaces All I'm trying to do is to say there's a big long conveyor belt.↗

2:55:36Ian MalcolmThe only people↗

2:56:06Ian Malcolmthat talked about these issues two years ago was JQ radio and the 1488 rooms with a bunch of white nationalists that said a whole bunch of hateful things that nobody ever paid attention to, right? That was it. And to think that we're now at the point where diligent and it's unfortunate because our spaces sometimes compete, but when they don't, I like to go into his rooms because he has some of the biggest spaces on X and he lets me come in and be the resident guy that's going to talk about Israel and the Jews, not from a position of↗

2:56:35Ian MalcolmAll of those things. But just look, they control everything. And so the amount of progress that we've been able to make is, it really is bewildering, even to me, as much as I hope that we would be able to bring it about. It really is staggering how far this has come. And the fact that Tucker Carlson is now talking about these issues, Candace is talking about these issues, and that diligent Denison, who covers the Tyler Robinson narrative, the fact that like a year ago, he would have let me in his face and say,↗

2:57:05Ian MalcolmOh, it's that guy that's going to talk about Israel. And now he's like, guys, I'm pretty sure that Charlie Kirk was killed by Israel. Like he's come that far. It's unbelievable how this is taking shape. And I don't see this being able to be stopped unless they try to criminalize and censor all of us. And if they do so, then everybody's just going to see even more quickly how correct we are about all these accusations, right?↗

2:57:32Speaker 5May I quickly, 30 seconds, Debbie, if I may, just quickly. So it's two parts, right? Let's say, God forbids, I have cancer, right? But I'm not aware that I have cancer. Awareness of the fact that I have cancer, then I can understand that I have cancer, and then I would go see if I'm going to go chemotherapy, homeotherapy,↗

2:58:01Speaker 5How am I going to solve to get rid of that tumor? Let's say Washington has a tumor, has cancer. Thank you so much for coming in here.↗

2:58:14@joann_marieIt's such an absolute pleasure and truly humbling that we were able to speak with you and share some of these ideas. I know it's a little bit more of a fringe.↗

2:58:39Ian MalcolmGroup dynamic that we tend to have. But again, having you here was such an absolute treat. And so I just wanted to thank you for not only for myself, but from everybody else that got to participate in the panel with you.↗

2:58:48@joann_marieAnd you did that amazing, Grace. So thank you so much.↗

2:58:53@malleusigYeah, thanks a lot for coming. Fantastic.↗

2:58:57@joann_marieI think she's glitching and maybe she thinks she's talking, but she's not. Oh, no. I'm going to recycle you, Grace.↗

2:59:08Speaker 5By the time you do that, she thinks she's talking, but she's not. It's funny, cute.↗

2:59:14Ian MalcolmWell, and Raed, how cool is this? This was her first time ever in an X-Space. Oh, no.↗

2:59:20@joann_marieDoes it work now? Yes. Yeah, go ahead. You did amazing, Grace. Thank you so much.↗

2:59:26@gc22gcI did hear and then it went silent. But thank you so much. And I really appreciate the opportunity. You guys have been great. And yes, one of us, one of us, one of us. One of us.↗

2:59:41Speaker 7Google, Google, Google, Google↗

3:00:05@gc22gcIt's just for everybody. So anyway, thank you so much. And I will join your spaces again.↗

3:00:11Ian MalcolmTo populism, to nationalism, everybody on Grace's page, you can get the Bill Blaster app. And again, a wonderful way of tracking who is voting for what to hold these people accountable so that it doesn't become just another vote that goes kind of lost in the wind of chaos.↗

3:00:34@gc22gcThank you so much. Love you guys.↗

3:00:54Ian MalcolmThank you so much for joining us today.↗

3:01:22Ian MalcolmTalking with 15 people in JQ Radio about these topics to where we are right now, being able to have conversations with people that are connected to some of the bigger networks on kind of the right wing, let's say, thought leadership frame. So it's pretty wild, isn't it, Rabbi?↗

3:01:40@malleusigIt has been a wild ride. It's absolutely amazing. And I'm really glad that we're able to reach out to the middle here. I'm really glad that we're able to Thank you very much.↗

3:02:17Ian MalcolmSome reasons to be critical of Bannon, some of the support that obviously he's been very steadfast with, with Israel. There's also, we asked earlier, I saw somebody in the Purple Pill, they asked about the Epstein connections, which Grace, she did cover and only so much I suppose that she could share, but nonetheless gave a rather straightforward answer about it.↗

3:02:39Ian MalcolmAnd we also read off a quote directly from Bannon. Thank you so much for joining us.↗

3:03:11Ian Malcolmwhich consists of genociding the Palestinians and starting endless wars where obviously that's gonna develop animus against the Jewish people because of their support for genocide. And that's a reasonable thing to be critical of. And then when you see the Jewish politicians and Jewish AIPAC funding other politicians that are trying to criminalize the very act of being critical of the genocide, well then that just further heightens the frustration with what we're dealing with, right?↗

3:03:38Ian MalcolmAnd so we really need to be able to, oh, go for it.↗

3:03:41@malleusigNo, I agree with you. I think that, honestly, the best thing we could be doing right now is trying to convince diaspora Jews that the most pro-Semitic thing, the most anti-anti-Semitic thing they could be doing is disavowing and detangling themselves from Israel because, frankly, Israel is responsible for most of the anti-Semitism that exists in the world today.↗

3:04:05@malleusigBut it's like talking to someone with an anchor around their neck and you're trying to convince them that They believe the anchor is the best way to stay afloat and you're trying to tell them no the anchor like they're swimming and they believe the anchor is is essentially going to save them but you have to convince them no the anchor is dragging you down to your death and you have to cut it you have to cut the rope and they don't want to do it and they'll fight you and try and kill you if you if you try and get them to do it so this is the most pro-semitic thing we could be doing right now is is telling our jewish friends in the diaspora how to prevent↗

3:04:39@malleusigHow to protect themselves from the anti-Semitism that Israel is engendering.↗

3:04:46Ian MalcolmWell, indeed. And look, that's why, as weird as it sounds, right, we get called all these things. Oh, you're so hateful, anti-Semitic. And we're sitting here lovingly trying to make the world a better place by stopping genocide, war, and preventing people from developing hatred for others because they're trying to steal literally your First Amendment right, which is a pretty reasonable thing to be upset about.↗

3:05:08Ian MalcolmSo we're going to continue having these conversations, these dialogues, and we'll continue trying to reach out as best we can to anybody and everybody that will come in here in good faith to discuss these issues, regardless of the Let's say hard lines that they may or may not feel comfortable fully stating, but to Grace's comments, you know, she's very direct about her opposition, not just to the war, but she called it a genocide over in Palestine.↗

3:05:33Ian MalcolmShe was very direct about the atrocities that the Israeli government has been taking on as well as APAC. And she talked, she talked about JFK and, uh, and Israel's perspective involvement there within, right? So very, very interesting to see somebody that connected to, again, Steve Bannon, who by the sound of it today, still gets conversations with Trump.↗

3:05:55Ian MalcolmAnd to know that she sees these things that we're talking about, right? She recognizes those patterns. And so for us, it was wonderfully humbling again to have her in here with us. Let's certainly go throughout the rest of the room. I know, and I apologize, Grenda, I didn't know that... Grace is going to have to jump, but why don't we go for you, get your thoughts on kind of the space, and then we'll check in with I Ain't Afraid of No Goats, and we'll also say hi to our beloved Mr. David Nietzsche.↗

3:06:19@joann_marieAnd I interrupted Raed, so let's go to Raed and then... Oh, let's go to Raed first. Sorry, Raed.↗

3:06:27Speaker 5I'll make it quick. I'll make it quick. Because I hear the question a lot about us in space. It's like, what is the solution? How do we solve it? It's like, If I'm sick and I don't know that I'm sick, the most important thing is me being aware. So awareness is very important. Then I realize that I'm sick. Then I will discuss, do I need chemotherapy?↗

3:06:56Speaker 5Do I need whatever bisect, whatever it's called? What's the solution? But now us on Spaces, we have a voice. That's all we have. We're not organizing. We just have a voice. So what are we doing? We're just bringing awareness to the sickness. Let's say the sickness in the media, the sickness in tech, the sickness in Washington.↗

3:07:19Speaker 5We're just bringing awareness. Then when enough people are aware, the solution, I don't know, will present itself. So that is, I said to Debbie, so this is what we're doing. We're just telling people, look, there might be a tumor inside Washington. There's a tumor there. and and it's it's like bringing the whole physiology of washington down it's not functioning there's a tumor in media whatever in tech so we're bringing awareness here that's all we can do here and then once people enough people are aware then you know you can discuss solutions and that is something very important the americans are not aware that there's there's a there's it's sick like the washington is sick kind of broken the media isn't↗

3:08:07Speaker 5Thank you so much for joining us today.↗

3:08:33Speaker 5and then suddenly I'm trying to navigate my way. I swear I had like maybe two followers and then I land in the JQ. I'm like, oh my God, like this is the last thing I've fucking expected. And I've been saying this all my life, but I'm a person, you know what I mean? And then I landed in the JQ and this is where I met Colin and I met you.↗

3:08:58Speaker 5And the truth that I'm like, fuck, I found my tribe. That's it. This is the truth and it has to come out. And I was so excited to do it. And it's beautiful to see that it's being done with unity and gathering steam and with love and no bigotry towards anyone. And the momentum is on, man. Even if you want to stop now, you're not going to stop.↗

3:09:22Speaker 5This is moving. So yeah, thank you. That's all.↗

3:09:26Ian MalcolmNo, and Raed, it's so funny, right? Because by contrast, And I remember coming on X when Elon promised free speech. And I was like, all right, time to say some comfortable things. And there was nobody, right? And then slowly I got connected with a couple people. And eventually that morphed into JQ Radio. But even back then,↗

3:09:47Ian MalcolmIt was like, it was Colin and Truth and myself. We got 13 people in a room and a 14th person comes in that we've never seen. And we're like, oh my goodness, another person found us. And by contrast, Raed, so we've gone from, Yankee Radio literally was 24 hours a day just saying, guys, there's a... There's a problem with Jewish supremacy, right?↗

3:10:10Ian MalcolmAnd it grew person by person. And by contrast, today, you've got Jews that are saying on the timeline that all they see on Twitter is animosity towards Jews, which you couldn't even find somebody doing that two years ago.↗

3:10:24Speaker 5I so hate interrupting you, but listen, so I walk into X, you know, the fourth, fifth day, I don't know, the 10th day. But there's no one in JQ. And here there's Hitler talking in English. I'm like, what the fuck is going on? And it was glorious to listen to this guy. He just sounds sane. He's not evil. And it was like, fuck, yeah, yeah.↗

3:10:52Speaker 5I didn't know. That, you know, fighting the enemies of God is gonna be that much fun. So much love to you all.↗

3:11:23Ian Malcolmand I'm sure everybody at this point has seen those videos translated into English floating around on Twitter. Uncensored was literally the guy making all of that. He was working with AI very early on to program all of that audio and then they would run, they'd run everything. They ran Hitler or the International Jew by Henry Ford, right?↗

3:11:44Ian MalcolmThey translated the entire thing, had that shared in via AI audio, right? They obviously had speeches from the Austrian painter. and all kinds of other stuff. This was revolutionary. To Debbie's question earlier, these things did not exist anywhere on the internet. There was JQ Radio running 24-7 and somebody would tune into this little X space that had been going for three straight days that had two people listening.↗

3:12:12Ian MalcolmThey would click into it and they'd hear this speech about the German people and they're like, what is going on? By contrast, to think that we've come as far as we are and where we are today. Thank you so much.↗

3:12:47Ian MalcolmThank you so much for watching.↗

3:13:12Ian MalcolmIt's unstoppable and it's just going to become more and more and more fun because what's the worst thing that they can do? Again, it's either to shut us all down, which I don't doubt that they might do. And I put up something in a post the other day. I said the moment that social media becomes more of a detriment than it is a positive to Jewish supremacy, they're just going to nuke it all.↗

3:13:33Ian MalcolmRight now, they look at X and they say, we've still got the majority of everybody in the echo chamber. The moment that flips and there's more support for what we're doing than their narrative, they're just going to shut down X. They'll shut down Facebook. It's all they can do.↗

3:13:48@malleusigThey'll sell it to Larry Ellison.↗

3:13:50Ian MalcolmIt won't even matter. They'll force it on Elon. They'll just drag him back and they'll parade him around and all that other nonsense. Or maybe they sell it to Larry Ellison like they did with TikTok. But if they do that and then they say, nope, if you type Epstein, we just nuke your account, right? It just makes it so obvious what's going on.↗

3:14:09Ian MalcolmSo they're in the ultimate catch 22. They have already lost. The truth is going to win, like David would always say. And it's only going to be more and more fun for us and more comically pathetic for them because all they can do is screech and whine and call us nasty words because they can't call us wrong. I apologize for the long build-up there, Grenda, but why don't we go to you, and then I ain't afraid of no goats, and then we will check in with Mr. Nietzsche and Rabbi.↗

3:14:40@joann_marieCan you see my hand? Yeah, we can. Sorry. Go. Grenda! Grenda going once. Grenda going twice. Oh, right. I ain't afraid of no goats. Go for it. And then David, and then Scott. This is a hard name. Okay, go for it.↗

3:14:58Ian MalcolmYeah, he's just goats. Goats is fine. I know it's a mouthful, the whole thing, so goats is just fine. I'll answer to it. Thanks, Ian, for the space. Thanks, JoAnn. Rabbi, I've been a really good space. You know, your original title up there, Ian, it says Lost Faith in MAGA. Now, at first, I think it was something like Lost Faith in Political Leaders or something a little broader than that.↗

3:15:24Ian MalcolmAnd I would like to Thank you so much for joining us.↗

3:15:56Ian Malcolmwho are gathered in a group where power money and influence is is the kind of the top top levels of that you know so it's it's almost always going to lead to some kind of corruption um you know kind of capitalism and the republic i look at in kind of the same ways where they're great systems if the checks are in place that need to be right and the the checks for both of those are the people↗

3:16:26Ian MalcolmSomebody was talking earlier about the power of where we spend our dollar. I've really been kind of hitting on that lately, too, because I think it's super important. And somebody was linking it with free speech. And I thought that was really interesting. And then it popped into my head, well, the saying, right? Put your money where your, what, mouth is.↗

3:16:48Ian MalcolmAnd that really hit me when whoever it was was talking about free speech.↗

3:17:21Ian MalcolmThat's the big thing because to me, it's a responsibility issue. Raed was talking about the awareness. And the next step of the awareness is realizing the responsibility we have. And that gives us power to change. Because if it's somebody else's fault, we have no power to change it. But if it's our, if we accept, this is how I deal with my life anyway, right?↗

3:17:46Ian MalcolmI was banged over the head with the responsibility fucking mallet when I was a kid. I mean, that was just, everything was about personal responsibility. And I realized if I take responsibility for something, even if it's not my fault, right? Even if I can take, if I can find a place to take responsibility for it, then I can, only then can I affect change.↗

3:18:08Ian MalcolmAnd that's kind of the difference with the liberals. They don't want any part of responsibility. They're scared of it. They don't want any part of it because it's difficult, right? Because maybe you could fuck up, too, because you've got to take that responsibility right along with the good ones, too. So, yeah, the responsibility to affect the change, I think that's a big thing that a lot of people talk about, and I think it's a good place to start.↗

3:18:38Ian MalcolmBecause we do have to get, we have to take those responsibilities back. Educating our kids. We've offloaded that. We've offloaded our health. We've offloaded all this stuff. And I think the beauty of this movement is taking responsibility back for me.↗

3:18:52Speaker 5Thanks for the time. And then guiding the elephant out of the room. Raed, one second. Guiding the elephant out of the room. That's all.↗

3:19:00Speaker 3I really like how you put that. We just need to be reminded that we can all assume responsibility for the individual decisions that we make, how we spend our money, how we treat our health. And we don't need a politician, a celebrity, influencer, anyone to come and take leadership position and affect laws before you change.↗

3:19:19Speaker 3You can end all bad habits now because irrespective of even if you get that ideal politician in power, maybe one day, who knows, say, I don't want to kill that dream. Well, bad habits still persist.↗

3:19:59Speaker 3Thank you for joining us.↗

3:20:27@joann_marieExcellent. Thank you so much, Truth. All right. Rabbi, go for it.↗

3:20:31Ian MalcolmIs Grenda back or no?↗

3:20:33@joann_marieI don't know. Grenda?↗

3:20:34Ian MalcolmAll right. Let's go back to Rabbi.↗

3:20:39@malleusigIs it my turn? I don't want to cut anybody.↗

3:20:41@joann_marieI don't know your co-host.↗

3:20:43@malleusigOkay. I was going to add that because Ian Malcolm, because Ian mentioned JQ Radio, I was going to ask if I can play his station identification from that era.↗

3:20:57Ian MalcolmOnly if you then also play a song. Why don't we do a little jingle from the intro, and then we'll go to David, and then we'll come back to you for a feature-length song production from Mr. Rabbi [guest].↗

3:21:10@malleusigI don't mind waiting. I can wait. Okay, we'll play the channel notification first. Here we go. Hi, this is [guest], and you're listening to Ian Mallecum on Twitter. Remember, the truth will set you free. Unless you live in Germany, in which case it will get you 15 to 40 months in jail.↗

3:21:29@malleusigThere you go.↗

3:21:31Speaker 2I love it.↗

3:21:32Ian MalcolmIt's so unbelievable that that's what we were doing back. We were all like coming together and bringing our own little skills and flavors. And Rabbi, one of the OGs of JQ Radio, it really is wild. There were like, I'd have to ask Colin, but there were probably something like 10, 15, maybe 20 people that really not just showed up to support.↗

3:21:55Ian MalcolmBut to put in hours and hours and hours of love and time and attention and to think that, you know, it's essentially we are all, what do you say, descendants of that era, right? That that thing has slowly morphed into all the things that we've ever done ever since. And so, again, I gotta give kudos. To Elon Musk for allowing us to have even those silly jingles on his platform.↗

3:22:24Ian MalcolmBecause as we said something like two or three years ago, we're going to win, right? I didn't think it would happen as quickly as it is, but it's amazing. And Rabbi, so if you haven't heard that little jingle, folks, if you're not familiar with the absolutely wonderful Rabbi [guest], we'll get to some of his little musicals.↗

3:22:44Ian MalcolmWhat would you call it? The musings of music for Mr. Rabbi [guest]. But first, let's check in with the always intellectual and always wonderful Mr. David Nietzsche.↗

3:22:56@nietzsche258918How are you, my friend?↗

3:22:57Ian MalcolmI'm humbled you're here, David.↗

3:22:59@joann_marieDavid!↗

3:23:01@nietzsche258918Well, I must confess, I'm really not that hungry because Truth Teller was cooking in the afternoon and I feel like I really got my fill at lunchtime, but... Great to see you all. Raed, I'm amazed at your spaces. It's your presence, it's the way you comport yourself, and all of a sudden you're attracting all the best people in your spaces.↗

3:23:23@nietzsche258918And I think you notice there's a common theme here. People that are super negative and people that define themselves by what they're against instead of what they're for, it's not a very successful message. And I feel like we're collectively weeding out You know, the negative. We're weeding out the negative in the sense of we're being defined by what we want, which is emancipation, which is equanimity, which is peace, and of course, we're against genocide, which means we also care about people and children.↗

3:23:50@nietzsche258918So it really is wonderful. I do think that we have to remind ourselves, and this is for everybody even down in the tunnels listening, we still have to be the bigger souls. I mean, it is, you know, when you fight for truth, it's more long-suffering. You know, you don't... You're not using all of the clever tricks of ability.↗

3:24:05@nietzsche258918You're not trying to censor people. You're not trying to shout them down. You're basically letting the truth have its effect. You know, you state it and you know that it resonates. And if some people aren't ready, you let them, you know, here have a Coke, have a nice day. But it's just a wonderful thing. And the solidarity, the feeling of solidarity to be a part of this movement.↗

3:24:25@nietzsche258918You know, Truth Teller often talks about, you know, Thank you so much for joining us.↗

3:24:58@nietzsche258918And then you'll all of a sudden become very comfortable with doing it. You won't have a cringe moment. You won't have a tightness in your gut. You'll just get so strong in your capacity. You'll establish the good habit of being direct and honest and earnest. And then you'll get a feedback loop in your own consciousness.↗

3:25:14@nietzsche258918You'll feel good about that. You'll say, you know, why wasn't I always doing this? Why wasn't I just saying the thing? You know, it doesn't matter if I get shouted out of the room and, oh gosh, you know, earlier today I briefly got into space and... I'm very proud of everybody else because I'm seeing this kind of courage abound, this kind of good habit being established, and we just need to keep doing more of it, keep going, going.↗

3:25:34@nietzsche258918It's just a wonderful thing to see, wonderful thing to be a part of. I adore you, David.↗

3:25:54Ian MalcolmWell, that makes two of us, JoAnn. We can fight over who loves and adores Mr. Nietzsche more. I know that neither of us do as much as Mrs. Nietzsche. Mrs. Nietzsche wins.↗

3:26:05@joann_marieFirst Mrs. Nietzsche, and then us.↗

3:26:09@nietzsche258918I don't know why, but I hear her upstairs laughing, and I don't even know what the joke is.↗

3:26:15Speaker 4David, was she listening in this afternoon?↗

3:26:19@nietzsche258918She was listening in. By the way, you know, No, no, no, she knows who you are. Listen, listen, she thinks, first of all, when she met me, the things that do kind of that being very direct, she likes that. So she'll say, she'll hear Truth Teller going on in the background, and she'll laugh. She'll say something like, oh my God, that's savage or wonderful, you know, but she really does enjoy it.↗

3:26:48@nietzsche258918She enjoys all of you. JoAnn, she absolutely loves you. I like the fact that my wife really enjoys this stuff. She's very intellectual, very, very smart, very, very sweet, by the way, but she knows right from wrong, and she really likes to hear the spaces. She's a silent listener in the back, but she's very, very much a fan.↗

3:27:10@joann_marieAnd we're a fan of Mrs. Nietzsche as well. She's an amazing cook, our guys. He always sends us pictures of... No, I love Mrs. Nietzsche. You guys make such a perfect couple.↗

3:27:24Speaker 5And just quickly regarding Truth's suggestions and advice. So don't be a fat fuck. Fast. Don't live in fear of the Jew. And there's one more. What is it, Truth? Well, you said it.↗

3:27:36Speaker 3Those are the three Fs. Well, I mean, what I mean, don't be a fat fuck. It means to be fit, of course, and fast, right? Because you should be eating less, and that's how you'll become, you know, fit and avoid obesity. And then, of course, don't be a faggot. You'd be like David, get married, have some kids, you know, settle down.↗

3:27:53Speaker 3And, yeah, don't live in fear of the Jew and seek the truth. There's no other way because too many people are too scared to go down the rabbit holes because they fear what they're going to find. But, you know, David likes to reference the Socratic method or, you know, where they used to have like, you know, a town hall.↗

3:28:09Speaker 3We have like a digital one here where people would just come and talk and, you know, through questioning and intellectual curiosity, ask hard questions and try to decipher the truth. And, well, we saw what happened to Socrates as a result. But, you know, let's hope it doesn't go down that path at all. But that's the way.↗

3:28:24Speaker 3That's the only way to figure out what's really happening here. So continue to... Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Funk-Machine-, Sean, Grace Chong MBI, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

3:28:55Ian MalcolmThe Brutes banner becoming the Incredible Hulk, but I think you just asked him to come out of his shell. So, Truth, go for it.↗

3:29:03Speaker 1That's him!↗

3:29:10Speaker 3I was muted. Look, first of all, it's awesome.↗

3:29:14@thelevantinemanCowardly, yeah? Yeah, and we're on our way to South Africa. What are you going to be doing in South Africa? You're talking to me? You're talking to me? Say hello to my little friend.↗

3:29:27Speaker 5His name is Truth Teller. Say hello to my little friend. You're talking to me in South Africa? The fuck do I even know you do? Oh, I see.↗

3:29:35Speaker 3You came for that stuff. Okay. You're still spewing those Mossad lines. See, when the argument is lost, people have to resort to ad hominem and bullshit because you can't make an argument. Do you actually disagree with any of the political points I've made? Sure, bud. Can you actually take a hard position on any... Hey, are you just mad that I wouldn't hire your mother because she was fat and out of shape and not flexible?↗

3:29:58Speaker 1Let's just move on.↗

3:30:03Speaker 3Is that all you came to say?↗

3:30:06@malleusigGuys, guys, guys, seriously, stop the fighting.↗

3:30:08Speaker 3He came to start a fight. I don't even know who he is. I wasn't talking to you. You're fine.↗

3:30:15Speaker 5No, yeah, I dropped him. I don't know the guy.↗

3:30:18Speaker 3Yeah, no, just to make the point when, you know, you know the argument's lost when they have to resort to ad hominem and they can't make one hard argument, so they have to make these types of personal remarks, and that's fine. It just bounces off me. I don't care. So, been there, done that, heard it before.↗

3:30:32@nietzsche258918Speaking of Socrates, someone cackled at him once, and he said, I shall have to remember this response when ideas fail me. You know, as though it were clever. So, yeah, that's kind of what they're left with. And by the way, this is another indication that we're winning. You know, so it's really... I just find, I notice that the people that really, really take exception to what we're saying, they are very, very angry.↗

3:30:56@nietzsche258918It's like we're saying, gosh, we're fighting against hatred and genocidal lunacy, and they come on and they say, we hate you and we have genocidal lunacy. It's like, well, you're kind of like the spiritual embodiment of exactly what we're talking about. And I can't bring myself, I keep saying this, I feel cast in a role for which I'm unsuited because I didn't show up to spaces to talk about this to be demonstrably hateful towards someone.↗

3:31:25@nietzsche258918And these people just cannot help but prove us right. I mean, look at what they're doing to Diligent. He's just following along the facts. He's not calling things out in the way we are, but they're just mad because they fear where that giant error is pointing. And gosh, you know, there's nothing more indicting than that.↗

3:31:42@nietzsche258918The fact that you're saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, where's this conversation going? Well, obviously in the right way, because you don't want it to continue.↗

3:31:49@malleusigIt's extremely telling, and this is another reason why I'm so incredibly optimistic about our society winning this. It's incredible that, like, the leading cause of anti-Semitism, like in these spaces and online, is refusing, how can I put this? is being against the genocide of children even if it's being done by Jews like that's what anti-semitism is now and so if you are coming out and fighting anti-semites for being against genocide even when it's being done to children by Jews then that is a really really hard position to defend and what you're doing whether you know it or not is you're rehabilitating anti-semitism↗

3:32:34@malleusigYou're slowly but surely hammering into the public's mind that anti-Semitism is simply a distaste for genocide. And at some point, people are going to start asking themselves, how bad can anti-Semitism really be then?↗

3:32:55@nietzsche258918Did you see that, JoAnn? Didn't you think you responded to it? I posted an interview that Piers Morgan made. I'm just thinking about what Rabbi just said. And it was where Piers Morgan is interviewing this demonic, evil, older lady. And he keeps giving her chance after chance after chance to express any kind of solicitude, any kind of sympathy for the children in Gaza.↗

3:33:22@nietzsche258918And she's grinning at him and she refuses to do it. It's like he's begging her to be a human. And she's saying, I just don't have that in me. I hate those children. And it really was a perfectly indicative of what Rabbi is saying is, I mean, these people, all they have to do is talk. I mean, you know, I don't think Truth Teller is the most convincing.↗

3:33:45@nietzsche258918I think he could just like not talk and let Mark Levin talk. And then it'd be like, they're both tag teaming in the same direction. You know, they're both making everybody go, oh my gosh, this is a really big problem.↗

3:33:57@joann_marieHer name is Daniela Weiss and she's a lunatic. She's like the leader of the settler movement too. She's literally a lunatic. She's one of the worst women that I've ever encountered.↗

3:34:11Speaker 5And Pierce tried so hard to get her to admit that a life of a Jew is equal to a life of non-Jew. That's it.↗

3:34:24@joann_marieHer face was like, what are you talking about? What do you mean these people are human? You see her face going like, no, they're not human, no. It's crazy.↗

3:34:36@nietzsche258918She was like, I understand the concept of a Jew, and I understand the concept of equality, but just put them together, and it's just gibberish to me. By the way, to hell with you, Piers Morgan.↗

3:34:49@nietzsche258918Because you brought that kid on that just had the temerity to say, I don't want to work for a Jew. And you dressed him down and excoriated him. And as if to prove the Jews right, Ian has already made this point. You're basically saying, I hope you get banished from the world and starve to death. You know, I'm saying this hyperbolically.↗

3:35:05@nietzsche258918But then that woman comes on.↗

3:35:07Ian MalcolmThat is basically what he said. Yeah. Yeah.↗

3:35:11@nietzsche258918And then, but then that woman comes on and she's doing, like, do you, does anybody celebrate that? Like, I don't want her to do that. I was hoping she'd finally just give in and go, yeah, they're equal. Like, I don't, it doesn't do anything for me to see someone just sort of, you know, exhibit. And I feel I'm standing on the abyss of something very, very empty.↗

3:35:31@nietzsche258918And it gives me the willies when I see no soul within someone. And yet he let that go on and on and on and gave her every privilege of what? Of being a Jewish supremacist. And then the other, like, I would love to go on Pierce and Pierce. Do you understand cause and effect? The reason why that kid said that is because people like you tolerate pure genocidal evility.↗

3:35:56@nietzsche258918Where does this kind of supremacy go? It goes to children being buried under the rubble in Gaza, and those are the people that you tolerate. You keep licking the blood of martyrs off of the knuckles of these tyrants, and you tolerate them, but then a kid says, I don't want to be a part of that, and he's the one you execrate.↗

3:36:14@nietzsche258918He's the one you damn to hell. Hypocrisy is a feeble word to describe this.↗

3:36:19@joann_marieThere is another interview that Daniela Weiss is there and they are asking her like, how did you get like this? And she's like, oh, you just need to keep brainwashing them. Like she says that, like she's aware that people are like, they get brainwashed when they are not repeating these evil things over and over. And they're like, no, you just need to keep brainwashing them over and over.↗

3:36:41@joann_marieI'll look for that interview and post it in the purple field because people need to watch the lunacy of these people.↗

3:36:48@malleusigBut Danielle West is one of these people where it's like she is so obviously evil. The way she smiles and the way she licks her lips in between speaking, right? And she has that like, even her bro furrows and she has that, she's looking at you like she's about to eat you all the time, right? It's like when she's in that documentary with Lewis Thoreau, whoever it was, right?↗

3:37:10@malleusigAnd it's like when he's talking and she's listening, you can almost see her eyes. You can see in her eyes like the demons talking to her and she's getting ready to paraphrase them back to Louis as like the answer. It's just, I don't understand how Israelis think they can embody and imitate the greatest caricatures of evil and still have a chance of convincing us that they're the good guys.↗

3:37:35@malleusigIt doesn't make any sense to me. But... David, I hope you're joining tomorrow because that is exactly what we're going to be discussing. We're going to be talking to Austin. We're going to be discussing his Piers interview. We're going to be going through it minute by minute. And we're going to be tearing Piers 18 new assholes because he did exactly what you said.↗

3:37:56@malleusigAnd as a matter of fact, if I don't do it, somebody should do this. We need to go through Piers' interview with that kid and then highlight all the things All these people that are allowed to say absolutely demonic, inhumane things, and he gave very little pushback. Somebody needs to put that compilation together, because↗

3:38:36@malleusigPiers is not a real journalist. He's not a real person. At this point, he is the weekly world report of online journalism for me. He's right up there with Batboy.↗

3:38:48@nietzsche258918Well, he's made that Faustian bargain, for sure. He sings the song of whose bread he eats. But I do at least appreciate, and I just think this is where the conversation is gone. This is something Raed talked about a little bit on The Space Today. I don't really like the term Overton window because I feel we should throw a brick through that window.↗

3:39:08@nietzsche258918But I do think that the conversation has moved in such a way as Pierce is almost forced to talk about the killing of all the journalists in Gaza and how they're not the good guys and how public opinion has turned against them. So I'm glad to see all that, but that doesn't obviate anything you say. When is that Space Tomorrow, by the way?↗

3:39:27@nietzsche258918What time is it?↗

3:39:28@malleusigThat is coming up in approximately 20 hours.↗

3:39:34@nietzsche258918Okay, what are we, in the military? Just tell me what time it is. It's at 01930. Listen, I'm a simple man. It's about 20 hours from now. Okay. Damn you, sir. Damn you to hell, sir.↗

3:39:51@malleusigGet rid of four hours. I'm making you do math.↗

3:39:56Ian MalcolmRabbi, am I crazy? I think we're 44 hours to use your presentation there, right? From that one?↗

3:40:07@malleusig44 hours?↗

3:40:08Ian MalcolmI mean, I'm not being too specific. But I think we've got in 20 hours, roughly, we've got the space with foundering. And then yours is the 24 hours after that.↗

3:40:20@malleusigOh, thank God somebody mentioned it. No, I had it on my calendar for tomorrow.↗

3:40:23Speaker 1Oh, my God, Rabbi.↗

3:40:24@malleusigYeah, there. Thank you. Take that.↗

3:40:26Speaker 5Take that, Rabbi. Whatever happened to tomorrow night or tomorrow afternoon?↗

3:40:33@nietzsche258918Yeah, Rabbi, it's too hard. Rabbi, it's too hard.↗

3:40:36@joann_marieWhen he was saying it, I was like, wow, it's so close now.↗

3:40:40@nietzsche258918Yes, Rabbi. So, Rabbi, so now you have to say this new phrase, the day after tomorrow.↗

3:40:47Ian MalcolmThe Day After Tomorrow is with Foundering, who's going to be giving a concert and geopolitical discussion.↗

3:40:52@malleusigSo the way that I'm going to try and see if we can make it↗

3:41:11Ian MalcolmI want everybody to think about as if they're walking into a grand party and soiree and he's got Foundry up there with his grand piano and he's just going to tickle the ivories and he'll do a song and then we'll do a couple minutes discussing the world and politics and all these other kind of things, maybe sharing some stories.↗

3:41:30Ian MalcolmSo it should be like an interactive concert is kind of the hope of the space.↗

3:41:35@nietzsche258918And the space, well, that sounds wonderful, my friend. And the space after, your space is typically start at nine, is that correct, Ian?↗

3:41:42Ian MalcolmOh, in Eastern time, yep. In hippie time. Right. Yeah, I don't want to hear your hippie time.↗

3:41:47@nietzsche258918I don't want to hear your Jimmy.↗

3:41:49Ian MalcolmWe've got JoAnn time, we've got hippie time, right?↗

3:41:52@nietzsche258918None of you people count.↗

3:41:54Speaker 5A legitimate question now, are you guys still in Tuesday? When you say tomorrow, you mean Wednesday? Because I'm Wednesday morning here.↗

3:42:03Ian MalcolmYeah, so Wednesday, how much?↗

3:42:09Speaker 1Raed Jamal رائد جمال, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Funk-Machine-, Sean, Grace Chong MBI, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

3:42:40@nietzsche258918Promise to be on time. I hope Truth comes as well because there might be really informative things that the young man is unaware of.↗

3:42:50@joann_marieI think he knows a lot of things. I think he listens to our spaces.↗

3:42:55Ian MalcolmDavid, I was joking. I'm going to have to ask him straight up because on his Piers Morgan interview... Where, and you're right, Piers really went after him, and I mean, he's a college kid, right? So for Piers Morgan to feel like he's sweeping the leg of this young guy, it's just, it's shameful, frankly. But on Piers Morgan's show, Austin talked about how nobody would find it offensive if he had been mistreated by lots of midgets and said he didn't want to work for a midget.↗

3:43:25Ian MalcolmAnd I was like, I'm pretty sure he's been listening to our spaces because I like to talk about midgets.↗

3:43:32@malleusigWe all like to talk about midgets. I really hope he's been listening to you.↗

3:43:37Ian MalcolmI think he probably has, which would be really funny if he was listening to R Space and then he went into Piers Morgan. He's like, okay, I got some JQ Radio talking points. I'm good to go. And if that's the case, then yes, we need to get him connected to Truth Teller because we need to be able to have him throw some of those intellectual uppercuts.↗

3:43:55@malleusigWe need to make a starter kit and give them to people.↗

3:44:01@nietzsche258918Well, especially to the just newly adults, because I want them to be... I don't want them to splurge out. You have to operate in such a way as you preserve your soul. You don't want to feel desperate, and you don't want to feel angry. You just want to operate on principle, and that's kind of the way our forefathers did.↗

3:44:21@nietzsche258918Our forefathers were... We're much younger men than most people think that they were, and yet they were very poised, they were very principled. But that's why we need to start a kit, because we need to make sure we keep them from devolving into wing-nuttery.↗

3:44:34Speaker 5I can get you a starter kit that doesn't cost anything. Its name is Zico. Just bring Zico.↗

3:44:42Ian MalcolmCan you imagine if Austin had gone on to Piers Morgan's show and Piers was like, so why don't you choose? And he just holds up his phone and starts playing clips of Zico. That'd be perfect. I say it quite often. I like tiny hands, tiny hats, not so much.↗

3:45:04@nietzsche258918Okay.↗

3:45:05Ian MalcolmI mean, in the space with Zico, I mean, he could have just had the space with Gary and Zico going back and forth arguing in Jew talk and just said, like, I don't like this at all. And the whole world would be like, yeah, I mean, that seems kind of reasonable.↗

3:45:21@malleusigWe should put together a compilation of the craziest shit Jews have said in spaces or otherwise. and just make a two-minute compilation and just offer it for free so everyone can just pull it up when someone asks them why they hold the views they do.↗

3:45:39Speaker 5Rabbi, if you make it into a nice tune, I promise you it would go like wildfire. I promise you it would just go like wildfire. I'm serious now.↗

3:45:55@malleusigMy dream is that someday, somewhere, Well, speaking of which, I know that we promised some folks a little bit of tunes from Mr. Rabbi [guest].↗

3:46:12Ian MalcolmSo why don't we go to Shania and check in with her?↗

3:46:15@joann_marieAnd also Scott. Oh, Scott. Okay, let's start with Scott. I keep jumping in.↗

3:46:21Ian MalcolmYeah, I apologize. Why don't we go to Scott, and then we'll go to Shania, and then we'll play a tune from Rabbi [guest], and then check in with Mr. Adam & Co., a.k.a. Tom & Jerry. But go for it, Scott.↗

3:46:36@scottandrewbThanks, guys. I appreciate the space.↗

3:46:41@scottandrewbIncredible.↗

3:46:45@scottandrewbRabbi, I actually think that you could just cold call numbers in Israel and ask them simple questions and have them answer questions and record those answers and you would get everything that you would need.↗

3:47:05@malleusigBasically, analog chat roulette, right?↗

3:47:09@scottandrewbYeah, just like... Cold call, and you say, hey, is it a genocide?↗

3:47:16@nietzsche258918Excuse me, is this Shalom? Yes, this is David with the Amalek Society.↗

3:47:21@thelevantinemanYeah, yeah. Oh, we were asking donations for the poor Muslims in Gaza. Exactly.↗

3:47:31@malleusigNo, with something like that, you'd have to start off making yourself sound like a psychopathic Israeli just to get them to stay on the line. And then... You'd hit them with the real question. Like, you'd be like, hi, you know, is this Avi Schleiman? We're collecting funds for, you know, soldiers who need homes after they were wounded in Gaza.↗

3:47:53@malleusigSo we're going to homes in Gaza. So they were wounded by the...↗

3:48:06@malleusigIs he cutting out?↗

3:48:09@joann_marieOh no, Rabbi, they're like, shut it down!↗

3:48:11@nietzsche258918Okay, Rabbi. Rabbi, we're losing you, buddy.↗

3:48:16@joann_marieI don't think he can hear us. Rabbi! I'm gonna message him.↗

3:48:20@nietzsche258918Can you hear me?↗

3:48:21@joann_marieYes! No, it's Robert Bundy.↗

3:48:26@nietzsche258918How about some journalists got away in Gaza and we need money to track them down?↗

3:48:37Ian MalcolmI think they really didn't like that plan, David. Rabbi, he was illustrating a little bit too accurately.↗

3:48:44@nietzsche258918It's getting too on the nose. I mean, listen, I think it's good for young people to get the righteous indignation to hear the Zikos of the world, but not too much. Because I don't want, I just feel like if you really get riled up, you know, it does, it's very hard to hear. The woman that we're talking about in Piers Morgan,↗

3:49:05@nietzsche258918You know, Rabbi was talking about, you know, sort of the sneer on her face. I see that a lot. You know, have you ever noticed whenever they're talking about genocide or something and you see Anna Krasparian, for instance, she'll be talking to someone and her counterpart will actually be grinning when they're talking about the mass extermination of children.↗

3:49:22@nietzsche258918And it's very hard to watch. So I just, I don't want that to be the whole focus of a young person because they might just get so riled up. that they stop operating from a good place. What do you think about that?↗

3:49:42@scottandrewbRabbi?↗

3:49:47@joann_marieHe's still glitching.↗

3:49:49@scottandrewbI got cut. I got dropped. They dropped me. Can I continue?↗

3:49:55Ian MalcolmYep, we got you, Scott. Go for it.↗

3:49:57@scottandrewbThank you. Okay, I just wanted to give my appreciation to you guys because I find myself often in your spaces, Ian. JoAnn, you're the co-host of the most incredible spaces. Raed, Truth, I would wish you started earlier because I often fall asleep to your space and I can't speak.↗

3:50:29@scottandrewbI think my point is, Brandy was up here earlier and, you know, I feel for her.↗

3:50:38@nietzsche258918Wait, you say her name was Brandy?↗

3:50:41@scottandrewbWas her name Brandy?↗

3:50:43@nietzsche258918Yeah.↗

3:50:44@scottandrewbYeah, Brandy. Who's Brandy? No, she was, like, an hour ago. An hour and a half ago. Like, Grace, I mean...↗

3:50:57@scottandrewbThis doesn't matter what her name is. The point is, people who are noticing now, I come from the left and I find myself in your spaces and I'm listening to your spaces and I agree with what you guys are saying, but you come from predominantly the right. So I've learned so much more about how you guys think and what your positions are on COVID and what your positions are on, you know, whatever.↗

3:51:41@scottandrewbAnd I think my point is we've been put into boxes, you know, like we, white, black, Muslim, Christian, Republican, Democrat, Liberal, Conservative, whatever the case may be. You know, we got to break down these walls. We've been put into these boxes to divide.↗

3:52:10Speaker 3Well, who's putting people into boxes?↗

3:52:14@scottandrewbYou know who's been putting people into boxes, Truth. I live in the room.↗

3:52:20@nietzsche258918Well, wait, hold on.↗

3:52:22@scottandrewbI'm happy to say it.↗

3:52:24@nietzsche258918To say it? No. Who is it? Who are we talking about here?↗

3:52:28@scottandrewbWe're talking about Zionists. We're talking about the Jews. We're talking about American colonialists. We're talking about, you know, the powers that be. They're putting us into boxes to divide us, to separate us. It's now time that we break down these walls. You know, we got to get together. And I find myself in your spaces.↗

3:52:55@scottandrewbI'm not, you know, like we wouldn't agree on a lot of things, but we agree on this. And we have a common enemy now. And that's the point. And, you know, you want me to say it? I'll say it. I don't care. Like, I'm not afraid to say it. Like, we need to oppose the Zionists. We need to oppose... You know, the Jewish influence on... Jewish supremacy.↗

3:53:25Speaker 5It's Jewish supremacy.↗

3:53:27@scottandrewbThe Zionist supremacy. The Zionist influence on our Western lives.↗

3:53:33@nietzsche258918And... Well, what is your... I'm sorry, I can't see. What is your name?↗

3:53:38@scottandrewbI'm Scott.↗

3:53:39@nietzsche258918Scott. So, you consider yourself a liberal, I guess, kind of on the left side of the spectrum, right?↗

3:53:46@scottandrewbI'm left-center, yeah. I'm not totally... Yeah.↗

3:53:49@nietzsche258918But you identify as, and I'm not saying this pejoratively, as a liberal. Is that correct?↗

3:53:54@scottandrewbCorrect. I mean, I live in Canada, and that's the party that, you know.↗

3:53:58@nietzsche258918Yeah, I understand, and I'm not, yeah, I wasn't judging you for that. I was just sort of nailing down where you are. So the reason why I respectfully suggest, my friend, that you will be more comfortable calling out Jewish supremacy is because as a liberal, and I actually share this kind of liberality, as a liberal-minded person,↗

3:54:19@nietzsche258918you're calling out the sin and not the sinner you know you're inviting your jewish brothers and sisters you're appealing to the better angel of their natures and even people that are sitting on the fence that are jewish you know and including you know in nobilizing the ones that have already come our way you know they deserve a little respect and credit and if you say the zionists you're just talking about a country and if that country goes away tomorrow↗

3:54:45@nietzsche258918The rest of these people will just shape-shift. You know, the Larry Elsons of the world, the seat of their power is right here in the United States. And they are absolutely Jewish supremacists. I mean, they are brutal, authoritarian, hateful, genocidal Jewish supremacists. The same with Larry Fink, who runs BlackRock. They've literally instigated another fratricidal war of Christians out there in Eastern Europe.↗

3:55:09@nietzsche258918And so... The only way forward, my friend, is for you to frankly and directly call out Jewish supremacy. Saying the Zionist isn't enough. You know, there are Christian Zionists as well. Saying any other euphemism, I don't care whether it's Illuminati or the lizard people. So if going forward, I think you'll find that if you call out Jewish supremacy, it's a straight invitation to people that are Jewish that don't operate and don't think this way to come to our side.↗

3:55:36@nietzsche258918And also, it's a straight... www.youtube.com↗

3:56:07@scottandrewbCanada Land↗

3:56:37@scottandrewbOur right-wing media in Canada is Rebel News, which is owned by Ezra Levon. Again, Jewish supremacists. We have no independent voice here. I have no problem calling it Jewish supremacy. The point I'm trying to make is that left or right, white or black, We've been put into these boxes, Christian and Muslim. We're told to hate each other and to infight.↗

3:57:18@scottandrewbInfighting is over. We have a common enemy. We have a common goal here. If you're on the side of humanity, if you believe that the genocide If you believe that there's a genocide in Gaza, if you believe there's a genocide in the West Bank, if you believe there's a genocide in Lebanon, if you are on the side of the Iranian people, the IRGC, Ansar Allah, if you're on the side of Hezbollah, we're on the side of humanity.↗

3:57:54@scottandrewbIt doesn't matter. We have to break down these walls. Out of the boxes that we've been placed in by these, you know, the people that control us. That's what I'm trying to say. David, and I respect you a great deal. I hope I'm making sense.↗

3:58:13@nietzsche258918Well, not only are you making sense, but this is a recorded space. And if you ever wonder how they can have both sides of the media up there in Canada, how they can have such a dominance on all the megaphones. and how yet we're going to win. Just listen to yourself. Listen to the wonderful things you just said. We're on the side of humanity.↗

3:58:37@nietzsche258918How is it possible that you could believe that? You've had cradle-to-grave indoctrination. They've done their level best to get you to never even consider. The devil's ruse is he doesn't exist. Their ruse is they're not doing these things. And yet here you are completely awakened to it. And you know that this is just going to spread and spread and spread, and apostasy is on the rise.↗

3:58:59@nietzsche258918We're simply not believing in their right to rule us. Of course, who deserves less to rule anyone than these people? And if you just sit down and think, how did I become awake? How did I become aware? And then the fact that there are going to be more and more of you. This is a great awakening, and you are a perfect example of that being true.↗

3:59:20@scottandrewbYeah, I think that...↗

3:59:26@scottandrewbFor me, personally, it's become clear, especially since October 7th, how much we have in common with the resistance.↗

3:59:50@scottandrewbThere's a lot more in common with us to the Muslims In the Middle East, in our own backyards than there is with the Jewish supremacists, right? Like, it's an awakening. Right or left, you know, and again, I find myself in spaces with people who are probably not politically aligned with me, but we have so much in common.↗

4:00:23@scottandrewbWe have such a common goal that I think that's what's important. We need to break down the barriers that were created between us because we are all on the same page. We're all looking towards a common goal, fighting towards a common goal. And I wish I was around in the JQ radio era because↗

4:00:53@scottandrewbI would have been awakened earlier. But yeah, I'll leave it at that. I just appreciate you guys. I appreciate your space. Ian, I listen to you all the time. Raed, you know I listen to you all the time. David, I appreciate you. JoAnn, Truth, appreciate it, guys.↗

4:01:14Ian MalcolmNo, and in all sincerity, Scott, I want to say I certainly appreciate not just you, but the sentiments. I mean, your words, if you think about it, the degree of encouragement, and this has been the case for years now, going back to, we were talking about JQ Radio, right? The fact that even back then, we would have some folks come in that would simply say, I've never heard of these ideas, or I never thought I might see eye to eye with dot, dot, dot, just like you laid out.↗

4:01:45Ian MalcolmAnd that is the reason that I know that not only to David's comments, are we winning? But that the message that we have is one that can be shared by just about anybody. And that's the craziest part is that this supremacist system and David, it was either David or Truth Tower were the first person I heard mention Jewish supremacy.↗

4:02:07Ian MalcolmAnd then I heard it repeated and I thought that's the perfect encapsulation of this entire thing and for two reasons. Number one, there's people that aren't Jews that are Jewish supremacists. There's also Jews that aren't Jewish supremacists, so it's good that this can delineate between those two things. But also, who cannot oppose supremacy?↗

4:02:28Ian MalcolmThis is the thing that has been blasted on everybody. Oh, white supremacy, the horrors. We must hate all the white supremacists. That term has been so blasted and brainwashed into everybody's mind that when we now take the mirror and we hold it back up, and it's so funny too because I don't know which was the chicken or the egg, if it was David mentioning Jewish supremacy or if it was the thread that I made that was on Jewish privilege slash supremacy, which basically said, let's unpack what white privilege is and then recognize that it does not exist, but this other version of privilege certainly does, right?↗

4:03:07Ian MalcolmAnd we can demonstrate that this system, it does not care for your average, not just white people, it doesn't care for Americans. The only thing that it is working for is Israel and people that prioritize Israel and Jewish supremacy, which is the lifting up of the ethnostate of Israel and of the Greater Israel Project and the suppression of the middle-class Americans, right?↗

4:03:33Ian MalcolmSo as this steamrolls more and more people into poverty, they are going to look around and it's the I am Spartacus moment where all of us recognize, you know what, the left and right, It's another divide. It's black and white. It's Christian and Muslim. It's citizen versus migrant. It is all of those things. And instead, we all have way more in common.↗

4:03:55Ian MalcolmAnd it's not, look, at the end of the day, we might cheer for different teams and different gods and have different skin color, but we recognize that it's either going to be they win and all of us lose, or we put our differences aside so that we can oppose the supremacist system that is stepping on the necks of all of us, right?↗

4:04:12Ian MalcolmAnd that is why We are going to win. And I don't know when it's going to happen, but I can sure tell you it's going to be way sooner than I would have told you two years ago. Right. And it's because we keep expanding. And it's as exactly like you said, Scott. And it I mean, it brings a tear to my eye to have you suggest we need to take down those walls that we think divide us.↗

4:04:36Ian MalcolmRight. Because every time we just fracture another one of those walls and it all comes crumbling down. We recognize that as it does, so does the House of Cards that is entirely built on lies that not only has told us all of these, let's say, mistruths about one another, but has actively been lighting fires in all of our camps and blaming it on the other rather than noting the common guy with the kerosene and the torch, which often wears that little hat, right?↗

4:05:05Ian MalcolmAnd so this isn't about hating all the people that wear those little hats, but the ones that do who are prioritizing their wars and their billionaire class and their Epstein clients over the likes of all of the rest of us. Well, it's a very obvious win-lose scenario. All we have to do is, like you were saying, Scott, just band together.↗

4:05:28Speaker 5May I say something?↗

4:05:29@scottandrewbWell, hold on, Raed.↗

4:05:31Speaker 5Yeah, go ahead. Sure.↗

4:05:34@scottandrewbI just wanted to say, Ian, and Raed, and Truth, and David, Rabbi and JoAnn and Albert and all of you guys give us the bullets in our gun that we can take away and into the real world. You know what I mean?↗

4:06:08@scottandrewbYou give us the information that we can take away and then project into the world to our friend groups, to our family groups, to our social groups. It's the information that we all get here. Right or left, white or black, Republican, Democrat, whatever it is, we have a common goal.↗

4:06:39@scottandrewbI just wanted to thank you because, again, this is a university-level education. You sit in these things for 10,000 hours and you're an expert. And I know you guys have been doing this for years. And I've come late to the game, but I have absolutely enjoyed and absorbed. Everything that I've been given. So that's it. You're giving us the ammo to go out into the world.↗

4:07:15@scottandrewbScott, listen, I'm gonna give you the best advice.↗

4:07:20Ian MalcolmI'm gonna give you the best advice you've got all day.↗

4:07:35@malleusigAnd this is going out to everyone else. Get a notepad. Get a computer text editor or something, right? And every time you either see or hear or come up with a good one-liner, which is a short but strong way to represent your side of the argument, write it down. And I'll illustrate this by going down the first 10 lines in my car notepad.↗

4:08:02@malleusigReady? Here we go. And these are all things that I either heard. One is from this space, actually, that I wrote down. These are things that I heard online, came up with myself, or heard someone else say, or read on Twitter, and just pasted into a notepad so I can go through and I can control F and search through it later when I want a good comeback.↗

4:08:20@scottandrewbWait, are you saying I'm long-winded?↗

4:08:22@malleusigNo. I'm saying that this is the practice. This is what you should be doing, right? And I'll go through my first ten lines. Ready? Satan is a toned-down representation of Israeli women. 2. I love how evangelicals want to start World War III to bring Jesus back, but they don't stop to think for one second how happy he's going to be about them starting World War III.↗

4:08:43@malleusig3. Oprah is a known retard whisperer. 4. 80% of Jewish success is literally just lying as a group to people that don't understand why anyone would do that. 5. Jews don't have the concept of an unjust war unless it's literally any war being waged on them. 6. Is it okay that Israel uses Palestine as its R&D center and testing ground for new weapons because Palestinians are brown people?↗

4:09:08@malleusigOr is it just a happy accident that they happen to live so close? 7. Why are only Jews allowed to be open psychopaths? 8. The same people that made antisemitism a capital offense built a statue to honor Judas Iscariot, burned churches, raped nuns, and turned places of worship into pornography theaters. 9. Is it still anti-Semitism if they have a good reason for hating you?↗

4:09:32@malleusigAnd 10, and this one's from Ken McDonald, Yahweh is nothing more than the Jewish ego. Okay? And these are, it's literally, this is just like a week's worth of stuff. Now, when you take all those things and you just like, you're able to list them off, ba-ba-ba-ba-ba, like that, they make a huge impression. And when you get in there and reread and you practice it, you start to get a taste for what a tight, persuasive,↗

4:09:59@malleusigI appreciate that Rabbi. I'm still at the level of David.↗

4:10:36@nietzsche258918The ones that Rabbi was mentioning that our questions are the most powerful, I would say this, you know, and I'll say this to Ian as well, the reason why that for me, not the accusation, but just calling out Jewish supremacy was the thing, is because I noticed that when people are irrational, Then if you just go straight to the facts, they will accuse you.↗

4:11:02@nietzsche258918They will accuse you of being morally inferior to them. I noticed this with Marxists on, you know, Ivy League campuses. And so I realized, well, you know, I'm basically a moral philosopher, so I'm going to make the moral argument first and put them on the moral defensive. So all we have left to do is talk about the facts.↗

4:11:23@nietzsche258918So it's like a grappler who starts out boxing. He's like, when this goes to the ground, it's going to get worse for you. And so Jewish supremacy calling that out makes the moral claim first, claims the moral high ground first so they can never pick up morality as a cudgel and stop me from getting to the door of the facts.↗

4:11:43@nietzsche258918So I would respectfully suggest that you make sure to never, ever be on the defensive morally. When you call out Jewish supremacy, And of course, as Ian pointed out, who's for supremacy? How do you defend the other side of this? No, no, no, Jewish supremacy is bad. And then what do they go? You're an anti-Semite for calling me Jewish supremacist.↗

4:12:03@nietzsche258918What? I mean, or for calling out Jewish supremacy. I don't get that. You seem like you're saying a really bad thing about Jews that don't believe in Jewish supremacy. You understand there are a lot of Jews that are decent and good people. Are you saying that they're all evil? I mean, what kind of psychopath are you? Try to make the moral case first and then let them take you to the facts because you are absolutely, for sure, going to win with the facts, which is why they do not want us talking about the facts or even talking at all.↗

4:12:33@_hippie_mikeyWell, isn't that the challenge of man? Isn't that the challenge of us all? I mean, everything you just said is right. Everything you just said, David, was right. But the problem is, is man... I'm one of those people, yeah.↗

4:12:57@nietzsche258918Well, hence the word interpret, yeah.↗

4:13:02@malleusigWe have to have a constant bar in order to judge ourselves against when we argue, and that bar is called logic. That's what the bar is for. What David is saying is when you're dealing with someone who does not subscribe, This is how you must handle them. And he's 100% correct. And that's why I recommend everyone take some time and start crafting questions.↗

4:13:30@malleusigAnd this is a sad fact of the human condition, unfortunately. But most people listening to two people argue will decide that if someone asks you a question and you stutter or hesitate before answering it, you've lost. It doesn't matter if you're right. It doesn't matter, you know, it doesn't matter what the real situation is.↗

4:13:51@malleusigMost people watching an argument will simply decide that the less, you know, eloquent person...↗

4:13:59@nietzsche258918Unless you're Hugh Grant, because he's made stuttering somehow, like... Exactly.↗

4:14:05@malleusigThe point is, you have to come up with questions that are going to make them stutter, right? So get in and start crafting those.↗

4:14:13Speaker 5If I may, just a quick thought, because... Just to show the difference between how it was and what it is today I've known about how evil Israel is all my life but when I used to you know travel to the West or lived for like four years in Europe studying and I used to meet people from all you know European or many nationalities↗

4:14:43Speaker 5And I always, I always, like always want to try to tell people how evil Israel is. Being called an anti-Semite, which is, I'm the fucking Semite amongst like there. It was hard. It wasn't easy because I didn't have the clear-cut evidence. and people other than Western would be called an anti-Semite or a hater of Jews or a supremacist or a Nazi and all that kind of crap.↗

4:15:19Speaker 5Same with me. It's because you're an Arab, because you're a Muslim, you just hate. It was different. It was hard. I mean, again, I said that before. My mother studied in UCLA, came back to Lebanon, and she tells me, it's like, Raed, forget. In 1968 or 69, telling any American anything negative about Israel, what they believe is that Israel in 1967 persecuted war with moral standards unseen in modern military.↗

4:15:51Speaker 5So it was so hard. Now contrast it with today. Today, if I'm a Westerner or if I'm, let's say I'm a French guy and I want to convince another French guy. The first thing I would ask him, are we the civilized world? Which he will correctly answer, yes. And then I would say, did the Jewish nation just execute a genocide on live TV?↗

4:16:20Speaker 5And he'll be, yeah, I mean, the evidence are there. And the other question, other than the Jewish state is basically...↗

4:16:33Speaker 5The other question would be, well, how do they get away with it? And the French guy would be, yeah, right. Why is our government supporting that? How did they get away with it? United Nations, all kinds of organizations, 194 countries, how do they get away with it? And that's the seed. Because that person is going to ask himself, like, really, how do they get away with it?↗

4:17:02Speaker 5And then he would look at his corridors of power. He would look at his television and his media, and he would start seeing, like, shit, these people are everywhere. That's how they get away with it. They control, they have access to Macron. They are in the presidential palace. They are here and they are there. And this is how, you know, the cookie crumbles, as they say.↗

4:17:27Speaker 5It has never been easier compared to before, I'm telling you, dude. It has never been easier. A couple of questions and any thinking person who cares a decent bit, at least selfishly cares about his democracy or his country, would be like, shit, we have a problem. Like, why do they control the media? Why are they...↗

4:18:15Speaker 5Look, when my grandmother was alive, it was still the Ottomans, and then it changed into the French who took control of Lebanon around, I'd say, 1917, 18. And they used to call out the colonialists. They weren't quiet. They were loud. It was always intellectual. And then my parents came along, and they kind of the same thing, intellectual.↗

4:18:43Speaker 5Battle Against Israel and Calling Out and Political Lobbying. And my mother in 1982 under the bombs went and suddenly landed in fucking New York outside the UN building with her friends calling out the genocide of Israel. So we've done that. What happens through the years, and I saw it as a kid in that household, the people, when we come together, when human beings come together,↗

4:19:41Speaker 5There's a bond, dude. They remained friends all through the years and you can feel that nothing will break that bond because once you battle together in a common cause for the greater good, there's a sort of camaraderie that you can't find in football teams, in political parties, in any sort of religious fellowships. Nothing compares to what↗

4:20:09Speaker 5I feel when I see you like when I see Colin we hardly speak for a long time but what this just reminds me of the jq the the the this feeling of I found my tribe and we as a tribe are calling out evil for the greater good and it just creates a bond but why is the biggest coward on x↗

4:20:32@thelevantinemanI would love to, but I don't understand why you're such a big coward.↗

4:20:47Speaker 5Okay, cool.↗

4:20:49@nietzsche258918Well, it takes a lot of... It takes a lot of bravery to call people names on the internet, so you're right. Anything else? Can you get a purple heart for this?↗

4:20:58Speaker 5My keyboard's way bigger than your keyboard, David. Anything else you would like to make a tagging?↗

4:21:06@_hippie_mikeyIt's like, for God's sakes, the man was talking truth, and then he just trolled him.↗

4:21:11Speaker 5God bless him on everything he said. There were days where they used to send the Mitch.↗

4:21:18@nietzsche258918The talent is going down, I do agree with that.↗

4:21:26Ian MalcolmYitz is wonderful, wherever Yitz is in the world. But Tagi, why don't you give us 30 seconds of your brilliance and then we can move on.↗

4:21:36Speaker 5You can speak for 30 seconds.↗

4:21:37@nietzsche258918I think this is that 30 seconds. I'll leave you alone with your thought. You can say whatever you want for 30 seconds.↗

4:21:47@thelevantinemanThink about cowardly people. Yeah, I heard that. Move on to another point. We got that. Pretend to be Lebanese, Hezbollah. Pretend to be Christian, but they're dirty, disgusting Muslims. Mute him for one second.↗

4:22:04@nietzsche258918So, listen, we're going to give you a chance to put your best, I don't know,↗

4:22:14@nietzsche258918I want you to imagine what a rational person would say, and then say that.↗

4:22:43@thelevantinemanI'm imagining what an intellectual would say. David, thank you.↗

4:22:48Speaker 5Wait, wait, wait, hang on.↗

4:22:51Ian MalcolmI'm just going to remind everybody that it is in beauty pageants where they tell the women, repeat the question that was just asked so that you can buy yourself a little extra time to come up with an answer because the people aren't often all that clever. Tagi, that's what you just did. Can you please deliver something moderately more interesting?↗

4:23:10Speaker 5I don't think you'll be able to do it significantly, but just a smidgen. Mind you, his bio is manufacturing, engineering, so he's very smart.↗

4:23:18@thelevantinemanMind you, you're in South Africa. You're in Cape Town. Thank you.↗

4:23:25Speaker 5You know, I've been looking around for the last half an hour. Where the fuck am I? Where the fuck am I? Thank you, thank you, Taznik. Anything else you want to bring?↗

4:23:33@thelevantinemanQuit saying you live in Lebanon like a fucking retard. Okay, anything else? Okay, okay.↗

4:23:39@nietzsche258918Anything else? Okay, is that it? That's it?↗

4:23:43@thelevantinemanRight.↗

4:23:43Speaker 5You've been hanging around for hours to say that? Jesus, man, get a life.↗

4:23:49@nietzsche258918This is your best insult. Let me see. You're a retard. What was the other one? You're a cowardly retard. So, my suggestion to you, though, is listen.↗

4:23:58@thelevantinemanYeah, and I comb my hair back like this.↗

4:24:01@nietzsche258918Mama said not to run when the stint is over. Not all you want with that dull wit of yours. You will not hurt yourself.↗

4:24:07Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait. Hang on, hang on. Did he say, and I comb my hair back? Was that the insult that you came up with? Are you serious? I mean, what else am I going to come up with? You fucking retarded... Wait, wait, wait. And your response... Wait, hang on. Did that actually happen? You mocked David by saying, and I comb my hair back.↗

4:24:29Ian Malcolmto which I made fun of you for it. And then you go, well, what else am I supposed to say? Is that that's really the best you can come up with?↗

4:24:41@thelevantinemanThis is wild.↗

4:24:43Ian MalcolmWait, hang on. Are you getting paid for this?↗

4:24:47@nietzsche258918I don't feel like they're getting their money's worth. I think they're going to stop the check. This is not working.↗

4:24:52Speaker 5They're getting screwed big time, dude.↗

4:24:54@_hippie_mikeyI want to say it's because of people like him is why I'm drinking more beer.↗

4:24:59@thelevantinemanYou're taking a selfie of yourself. I'm going to become an alcoholic because of people like him. Basically, is that Scott?↗

4:25:05@nietzsche258918Was that you?↗

4:25:07Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait. Hang on. Hang on. Scott, do you think that the photo in David Nietzsche's profile pic, do you think that that's him?↗

4:25:15@thelevantinemanI think it's him trying to take a selfie of a selfie.↗

4:25:19@nietzsche258918Maybe you should read more. That's somebody else.↗

4:25:22@thelevantinemanHe thought that's what it was, though. I really think that's what he said.↗

4:25:25@nietzsche258918Is that it? That's your pivot?↗

4:25:26@thelevantinemanI can't believe he suggested that.↗

4:25:28@nietzsche258918That's your attempt to get out of this? Listen, like I said, Mama said not to run with the scissors, but you can run all you want with that dull wit of yours. You're not going to hurt yourself, so just run all over the place. I'm imagining which were the unarmed, my friend. I feel like this is unfair.↗

4:25:45Ian MalcolmThat it was. David, why don't you take a picture with your hair combed back? I'm going to save you the embarrassment. I'm just going to remove you from the space.↗

4:26:00Speaker 5I'm not sure. I think he's just talking to the phone. I don't know.↗

4:26:05Ian MalcolmI'd just like to say to David, David, not all hooves are bad, David. Only hooves are bad. Onlyhoofs.com, 39 cents for three months.↗

4:26:15@nietzsche258918Yes, yes. Well, I'm sure it behooved you to say that, so I'll take your word for it.↗

4:26:20Ian MalcolmI can't believe that guy requested for less than an hour.↗

4:26:23@_hippie_mikeyI know, right?↗

4:26:25Speaker 5Literally, three hours at least, man. Well, that's well earned. I hope they're paying him.↗

4:26:33Ian MalcolmI mean, it would have been multitasking to listen and also try to... Come up with something clever to say.↗

4:26:41@nietzsche258918Yeah, when someone says you're retarded, I'm like, you got me, wow.↗

4:26:44@_hippie_mikeyI know, it just really takes the intelligence out of the room.↗

4:26:49Ian MalcolmBut I was going to ask you... Let's go to Shania, and I know Shania's been... Shania, if you're with us, why don't you jump in, and if not, we'll go to Dr. Strange.↗

4:27:01Speaker 5Five seconds, please. So, basically, they paid them, they told them, you go, you trash this guy. But he's so lacking in creativity and IQ, he's like, how do I trash him? All right, Cape Town, da-da-da, and then he went with the hair, like, and here comes his hair.↗

4:27:20Ian MalcolmI can't believe he said that. And he didn't sound particularly drunk, but he looks at the panel and he's like, what can I say? I've been in here for an hour. Should I have pretended to be offended?↗

4:27:31@nietzsche258918I think I should have pretended to be offended. I should have said, damn you, sir. Damn you to hell.↗

4:27:37@_hippie_mikeyHey, it's like, hey, I'm drinking beer here and I'm getting a little toasted, but I'm showing more respect than that guy, you know? And I agree with Jamal here. I was going to ask you, Jamal, real quick, what do you think about Western Greek philosophy that was interpreted way before the Jewish state?↗

4:28:00Speaker 5I'm just curious. Yeah, let's go to the good lady or the woman that Ian wanted to pass the mic to, and then we can get back to that. Yeah, yeah, let's do that.↗

4:28:12Ian MalcolmLet's see, Shania, are you with us? And if not, we'll go to Dr. Strange.↗

4:28:19Ian MalcolmAll right, let's go to Dr. Strange, and then we will go back for the final question there for Mr. Raed. And then what we will do, we will go to David Nietzsche for some wonderful wisdom and parting words. We'll then go to Mr. Rabbi for a tune to send out the space. And then I will recommend that everybody join Mr. Truth Teller, all roughly 500 of us that we go over there band together, as we always recommend, and continue the conversation.↗

4:28:46Ian MalcolmCan I get 30 seconds in there somewhere, Ian? Yeah, go for it. Okay, do you want me to go now? All right. I was going to say to Scott, you know, two things that he was talking about. You know, he's talking about the division and whatnot. And that's the nefariousness of this latest round of Marxism, right? The identity politics.↗

4:29:06Ian MalcolmBecause that's what they're doing. They're splitting everybody into all these little identities. And so you can never, you know, you can never agree. And, you know, that's what all that stuff was. And the other thing, you know, you're talking about getting up and talking. This kind of correlates for me anyway, but I'm a recovering alcoholic.↗

4:29:23Ian MalcolmAnd I was told one time way back when, never be afraid to get up and tell your story because you never know who might need to hear what you have to say. I kind of think of telling the truth in the same way. I will get up there and say it. Maybe somebody out there needs to hear it exactly the way I'm saying it for whatever reason.↗

4:29:44Ian MalcolmMaybe it's not going to hit when Truth says it, but maybe it's going to hit when I say it. So I try and never be afraid to get up and talk and tell my story, my truth. I'm going to use the left there, my truth, right? Anyway, I appreciate you. Was that Hippie talking?↗

4:30:04Speaker 5No, that was me. It was goats. I ain't afraid of goats.↗

4:30:09@nietzsche258918Well, I ain't afraid of goats. Let me ask you about that. But don't you think that when you sort of muster up the courage to be vulnerable and to kind of speak from the heart, don't you think that also inspires other people to do the same when you do that? Like they can kind of see that you're having to muster up a little bit to speak up like that.↗

4:30:29@nietzsche258918And it's sort of contagious. In your personal life, like in...↗

4:30:34Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. Absolutely. A thousand percent. I mean, everybody's waiting for the one guy to stand up and talk, right? And then they'll stand up and talk. But, you know, a lot of times nobody wants to be that first person to stand up and talk. But, I mean, that kind of goes exactly what I'm saying. Never be afraid. Never be afraid to get up and talk.↗

4:30:50Ian MalcolmThere's people on this app that have, just from, like I was saying, my recovery standpoint, that have changed their lives when they heard me tell my story. And to me, that is very humbling, very... Just pretty fucking awesome. You know what I mean?↗

4:31:07@nietzsche258918It really is. And by the way, just to speak for myself, it is inspiring. And I never lose the feeling of being inspired when someone else does that. So I really love, and I also love what you're saying where your personal evolution, you're connecting that with just speaking the truth in general. And I absolutely, you know, I hear it time and time again, Truth Teller talks about it.↗

4:31:27@nietzsche258918I love the idea of conjoining Thanks for your personal evolution and overcoming whatever it is that needs overcoming with just speaking the truth in general. I truly believe those two things do go together.↗

4:31:41Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. Thanks for the time, guys. I really appreciate it. Ian, another good space, man. No, of course, brother. And Goats, if you would want to do a space on your story of recovery, certainly send me a DM. I'd love to do one for... I know there's a lot of people that struggle with a whole lot of different addictions, and so would welcome the opportunity to highlight that.↗

4:32:01Ian MalcolmBut let's go to Dr. Strange, and then we'll go up to Mr. Nietzsche.↗

4:32:06@submission2tHey, folks. Good to... Great space as usual. I was in and out. I've been traveling. I just got back recently. So good to... It's good to be back. Nevertheless, you know, I wasn't planning on coming up, but then I heard that idiot speak. So I figured, let me just step up and give, put in a couple of comments. And, you know, I looked at all of this.↗

4:32:30Ian MalcolmDr. Strange, were you offended when he told David that he combs his hair back?↗

4:32:39@submission2tWhat's interesting is I went through his timeline and I looked at all of his posts and a good chunk of it is about Iran and freeing Iran and all the BS that you hear. So he's most likely a monarchist or an Iranian Jew, right? Because those two groups, they have a very unique feature to them. So him coming in and calling Raed a coward, the irony is that that's a complete projection.↗

4:33:06@submission2tThese, I'm gonna, I'm going to be very loose with my words. These sons of bitches will go and march and protest all day long, but they'll never go fight in the front lines or they won't go join the army or they won't go back to Iran and fight against the regime. They just want us Americans to go fight for them. Right. And so the funny thing is that they wanted regime change all along.↗

4:33:34@submission2tAnd then President Trump said, We committed regime change. And it was the funniest thing because obviously President Trump is playing with his words. So I would go around and I'm like, oh, congratulations, you guys got your regime change. I hope you're happy. And I hope that you can actually pay some extra tax because we committed this on your behalf.↗

4:33:55@submission2tYou're going to benefit from it. This is what you wanted. Now you should pay up for it. But nonetheless, I was trolling. But there is a unique pattern to them, right? They live in the U.S. They benefit immensely from this country. A lot of them are really rich. And again, they've lived here all of their lives. But when you look at what they want to achieve and what they want to do, I would say that almost entirely majority of their time is spent on making Iran great again.↗

4:34:27@submission2tObviously, they're going to fuck Iran to hell if you give them the chance.↗

4:34:34@submission2tBut their entire focus is somewhere halfway around the world without putting any effort to make this country better again, to make America better again. See what I can do here. It's almost like you have a parasite that lives and benefits from this country yet focuses halfway around the world to make someplace else better.↗

4:35:02@submission2tAll of their energy and focus is spent over there. I just find that really snakeish behavior.↗

4:35:11Speaker 5Sorry to interrupt you. Don't you find it strange these monarchists, they always have this really flag. It's like when you think like their sponsor in marketing terms is like their sponsor. He's paying shekels and he wants the exposure of the brand. And he's like, don't you think it's unwise to put the Israeli flag because you're destroying their credibility?↗

4:35:38Speaker 5No, I'm paying money. I want the flag. It's like, it's not wise. Yeah, we're not known for wisdom, okay? We want the flag.↗

4:35:46@submission2tIt's so stupid. Yeah, you would think that they would consider, you know, to at least have some level of separation. But no, it's all messed up. I kid you not, there's few groups in the US that really irks me, and the Monarchs are one of them, and we all know who the other ones are, but they are so out of touch and out of reality.↗

4:36:13@submission2tThat's the only reason I came up, because otherwise I was just enjoying listening to everybody else. I just felt like they need this special attention. For everything that they've involved themselves in. And mind you, a lot of Iranians are actually against this war. A lot of Iranian Americans, I should say. The ones who are well-educated, I have this surgeon that I go to, and she was livid, Iranian American, she was livid for what's happening in Iran and this war.↗

4:36:45@submission2tAnd she's a very secular person, like completely secular, has no... Hippie Mikey, JoAnn Marie, GrendahMT↗

4:37:18@submission2tAnd they were willing to sell everything and anything to achieve their goal. There's no morality principles whatsoever. I mean, I just find him so parasitic. I'll end it there. I'd love to hear from others. Thanks.↗

4:37:30@_hippie_mikeyGod bless you for that, Dr. Strange. But I was going to ask Randy real quick before I head to bed. Ian, great space, by the way, man. You know, great space, brother. What do you think of the Western Greek theology?↗

4:38:15@_hippie_mikeyAn interpretation on how to construct our lives accordingly. Almost like how the 1950s, 40s, 30s, you know, Dwight D. Eisenhower, Calvin Coolidge, you know, all these great men who studied all these great philosophers, John Locke, Francis Bacon, Immanuel Kant, the German philosopher. All these people that brought logic that heightened our masculinity as men to think prospectively on what is right and what is wrong.↗

4:39:08@_hippie_mikeyAnd then after all that, European interpretation Keyword, European interpretation interjected into North America through communism, socialism. This is all European. Fascism, everything else. It was none of that that we accepted.↗

4:39:44@_hippie_mikeyduring the turn of the 20th century coming out of the 19th century. And a lot of people don't even talk about that. The founding fathers, you know, early 18th century or 19th century, I'm sorry. They were fans of Socrates, Plato, Aristotle. And what did that do during that time? It heightened masculinity. Why? Because logic.↗

4:40:24@_hippie_mikeyThat was mentioned earlier in this space.↗

4:40:28@malleusigNot to jump in and cut you off, but is your assertion, your belief that masculinity comes from logic? Because my assumption would be that logic is a masculine trait. Right. It is.↗

4:40:44@malleusigBut, okay, hold on a second.↗

4:40:47Speaker 7Back up a second. That's okay, Rabbi. What's that, David?↗

4:40:51@nietzsche258918Yeah, that's just, just stick with that point. I think that's... Yeah. Yeah. I would say the courage to, you know, Thomas Jefferson thought that he really endorsed this idea of a vigorous debate of ideas. Yeah. So logic is important, but the courage to conduct ourselves logically you know the dialectical method was of course that was uh that was that was uh an homage to socrates because the idea is that you work the truth out by having discussion so what are they trying to stop us from doing now we're having a discussion because and that the concept of the hegelian dialectic was an homage to that socratic idea because basically he was saying communally like↗

4:41:41@nietzsche258918If we think of the all of civilization, of all of humanity is engaging in a giant discussion, that ultimately we move from the lower to the higher in terms of ideas. The only thing that stops that is if you just stop discussion. So I would say the seed of our masculinity is not, I wouldn't say it's merely in our capacity for logic, but our willingness to engage in logical discussion with other people, even in the face of...↗

4:42:10@nietzsche258918If I may, if I may just quickly come in and then kick it back to you, Rabbi.↗

4:42:29@malleusigThank you so much for joining us today.↗

4:42:54@malleusignone of them are based on objective reality and a matter of fact most of them are hostile towards objective reality and they operate entirely on consensus right and this is why you don't think men occupy operate on consensus they do or they don't i'm saying that this i'm saying that women operate they tend to denigrate downplay or avoid the importance of objective reality and decision making and instead rely almost entirely on consensus men↗

4:43:37@malleusigAnd especially with more male communists becoming a thing, because communism is a fundamentally female political ideology because of its reliance on consensus and its denigration of the importance of objective reality.↗

4:43:51@nietzsche258918Yeah, and if I could just put in a word for our sisters in solidarity, I found it very odd that during the COVID tyranny that there was such a preponderance of women speaking out where men were sort of hiding. And I was very impressed with the women, but I was rather ashamed of the men for not just standing out and calling out this tyranny.↗

4:44:12@nietzsche258918I don't know why that was the case, but it was just something that struck me as odd during the COVID tyranny. So many women were having to speak up where men wouldn't, and I was rather impressed by them.↗

4:44:23@malleusigI would actually, I would suspect...↗

4:44:24Speaker 5If I may, I just need to think about... Are you going to think about Raid? I'm sorry. Well, yeah, I just want to acknowledge that I heard you question, Hippie, but I have to go because it's Truth-teller space and I don't want to miss the updates. I just want to say goodbye. I love you all. Beautiful discussion. Thank you, Ian, Rabbi.↗

4:44:42Speaker 5Thanks for co-hosting. David, all the love and respect. Love you all. Much love, man. God bless. I'm just going to jump across the road. All right. Bye-bye.↗

4:44:55@malleusigRaed is Arabic for thunder, which makes him basically Arabic Thor. Sorry, go ahead, Dr. Range.↗

4:45:03@submission2tYeah, thank you. I was going to jump as well, but I wanted to actually ask Ian. Ian, you know Will Sexton. I was wondering if you can actually do an interview of him on your space. I think from the little that I've listened in from his show, I find the clarity of thought that he has to be really a thought leader of his time.↗

4:45:29@submission2tAnd again, I don't know him too well, but I just have watched some of his shows recently, and I find the guy to be really a thought leader of our time from the limited view that I have. It'd be great if you can bring him in for an interview.↗

4:45:46@malleusigDidn't Will Sexton used to be on like a JQ radio a lot? Will was, yeah.↗

4:45:53Ian MalcolmIt was Verilliam, right?↗

4:45:54@submission2tYeah, Verilliam. Yes, Verilliam.↗

4:45:57Ian MalcolmYeah, Sinclair. Sam Sinclair used to go by. But hey, Rabbi, before I get going.↗

4:46:05@submission2tHe just opened up an ex-account a couple months back, a few months back. So perhaps if we can get him in his space, I think that'd be great. Some of his videos are just phenomenal. He makes great videos, man. I love his videos.↗

4:46:20@_hippie_mikeyBut I was going to ask Rabbi real quick before I get going.↗

4:46:24Speaker 7Real quick, I got to go too.↗

4:46:26@_hippie_mikeyYeah, God bless you, David, as well. Much love to you, brother. Always, you know, you're the best, man. And Ian, too. You know, you guys are awesome. But I was going to say, like, why do you think, you know, Greeks are always left out of conversations?↗

4:46:50@malleusigI was not aware that Greeks were left out of conversations.↗

4:46:53@_hippie_mikeyI hear it every time. I mean, the Christian Crusaders and the Muslim people and the Jews and everybody has always been against each other. But, you know, what brought the concept of understanding was The Greek theology, they came here.↗

4:47:23@nietzsche258918Well, you mean philosophy.↗

4:47:25@_hippie_mikeyThe Gospel of Paul? That's right.↗

4:47:29@malleusigBut Hippie, listen, most of that, again, I'm a fast talker, so I have difficulty when people go slowly, but most of that is ancient history, and it's coming to us through Rome, through the Latins and the Romans that took it on and then kept it alive inside of their own culture, then comes through the Byzantine Empire from Rome,↗

4:47:48@malleusigand then makes it into our work, Christianity. The only reason we have Aristotle is because the Muslims saved the books and got them into the Library of Alexandria, for example. So the reason it's not really talked about as much as the other things is because it's no longer really a current concern. It is largely an academic- What the fuck are you talking about?↗

4:48:09Speaker 8We have- At the moment- No, you're full of shit right now.↗

4:48:13@malleusigOkay, guys, guys, don't fuck up the space, all right? At the moment, Greeks really aren't doing a lot except making really, really good food. And I think there's a heroin problem.↗

4:48:24@nietzsche258918I think he was talking about Greek philosophers, and no, we talk about them all the time. Our civilization is redolent with their thinking. No, it wasn't by way of the Library of Alexander, by the way. The Moors translated a lot of Aristotle pre-Renaissance and snuck it into the back door of Europe.↗

4:48:43@malleusigOh, for real?↗

4:48:45@nietzsche258918Yeah, and thank God they did, by the way. Thomas Aquinas was being the first great beneficiary. Avicenna, by the way, a Muslim did it probably a century or two before Aquinas did the same thing, so they sort of wrapped their beautiful spirituality into rapt Aristotelian logic around to it. So the Renaissance is really just a renewing of Aristotle, but let's...↗

4:49:11Speaker 8It was funny by the way. Not done yet. Not done yet. Hold on. Hold on.↗

4:49:17Speaker 7My bad, man.↗

4:49:22@nietzsche258918Yes. So just to finish, don't want to go on too long here, but just to finish the idea. So the printing press, of course, in the mid-1400s was invented. And so thank God for the scriptoriums.↗

4:50:04@nietzsche258918Euclid, Anaximander, Aristotle, Plato↗

4:50:28@nietzsche258918The influence of this DNA of Western civilization, which is the Golden Age of Greece and the pre-Socratics that came before them, is just redolent all the way through. In fact, Thomas Jefferson, one of the reasons why we weren't a pure democracy is, let's not forget that Socrates was voted to death. So we realized the tyranny of the majority could be, as Alexis de Tocqueville said, the worst tyranny of all.↗

4:50:54@nietzsche258918Socrates was a homeless man.↗

4:50:57Speaker 8Who just asked people questions that made them think. He wasn't homeless. No. And actually... He had a wife. How could he be homeless? Okay, whatever. And then Pluto... Do you think his wife was homeless?↗

4:51:13Speaker 8Maybe. No, I'm a Diogenes fan, actually. I'm a fan of Diogenes, which is a man who slept in a fucking barrel in the middle of the town square and spoke with his mouth full. But Socrates never actually had anything recorded in his own voice or written down for him.↗

4:51:34@nietzsche258918Did anybody have something recorded in their own voice? I don't think they had a recording machine back then. I was going to say, he didn't get that on the iPhone. Yeah, he didn't. Note to self.↗

4:51:44Speaker 8But I'm telling you, like...↗

4:51:48@nietzsche258918But, yeah. Well, it is true that pretty much whatever we get from Socrates is by... The historical record is pretty clear that Socrates existed.↗

4:52:19@nietzsche258918and operated from a very, very unique perspective and invented the Socratic method in the process. Well, we have a lot of work to do. And that warning did come from Jefferson in his writings that they were trying to, from the start of the United States, they were trying to alter the curriculum so we couldn't understand the roots that built↗

4:52:49@nietzsche258918The nation on what the purpose was and where we were going with our education, which is what you need. That's the key, especially when you're trying to teach people who have no idea what the masters are creating. As far as Greek persuasion, you can get into these little nitpicking whether someone's homeless or not. There's a lot of confusions.↗

4:53:17@nietzsche258918When language itself has been disturbed, I think the saying, first there is the word, I think everyone should know that. We have a lot of work to do as far as fixing the language. We have to use this broken conduit as it is as much as we know it to get anywhere at all. But this... The fact that people call themselves Christian, you can tell it hasn't formulated yet.↗

4:53:53@nietzsche258918The proper way to say that in English would be Kingsman. The anointed one in English would be Kingsman, not Christian. Okay, but this is not a language problem, though. This is just a thinking problem. That's a Greek. Like in the future, if everything were to get straightened out and you called yourself a Christian, you'd be Greek.↗

4:54:44@nietzsche258918I think emancipation is the first step, and then we can worry about being kings afterwards.↗

4:54:50Ian MalcolmLet's go to, because I said we're going to go to Rabbi, but I know that he had to drop down. Let's check in with Andrew, if you could keep it kind of quick there, Andrew, and then we'll go to David for some parting words to close things down.↗

4:55:02Speaker 9Yeah, I wanted to, someone talked about COVID and men and women, and I just wanted to mention that, okay, broad generalities here. But men are usually more object people and women are people people. And so I think the COVID thing, I think maybe what garnered more support from women on the COVID matter was that it was really directly impacting a lot of people.↗

4:55:29Speaker 9And so maybe that compensated for the whatever somebody else was talking about. That's all.↗

4:55:38Ian MalcolmAn interesting take and what I would say is that women are much more social creatures that I think are more easily targeted by and also affected by social programming and engineering. And I think when they were fearmongered with the idea of injuring grandma or the, let's say, the social pressures and stigma of not wanting to stand out and not being part of the game.↗

4:56:33Ian MalcolmAnd it's not lost on me that Orwell was the one that said the women and children were the nosers-outers of the party, right? They were the ones that were going out and spying on everybody. And so it's really unfortunate. It's also why, oh, by the way, in my opinion anyway, didn't mean for that to rhyme, oh... Oh, late in the day, we are.↗

4:56:56Ian MalcolmBut it's why all the social engineering is aimed at them when it comes to advertising. It's why all the advertisements are black men with white women rather than, let's say, white men with black women because men do not base those basic decisions around even their partners and their sexual preferences based on what the television tells them.↗

4:57:15Ian MalcolmIt's one of the... Great dangers of our time, and it is the usual suspects behind all the engineering. That being said, why don't we go to David for some parting words on just positivity, affirmation, and we'll use that to wind down the space.↗

4:57:29@nietzsche258918Well, beautiful space, my friend. And I absolutely, I want to echo this. I do think that, well, a certain painter brought this up. If men lead, then women are more inspired by them. And I do think that it is a maybe... Not an unhappy coincidence, but just unhappy that men have failed to lead, and I don't think that women have been very inspired by them, so they look for another sort of leadership structure, and that's not been good for our civilization.↗

4:57:59@nietzsche258918I will say this, I absolutely love, and we talk about any time in civilization, let's not forget, we're talking about other civilizations that existed unto themselves. They may have made wrong decisions, they may have chosen... Stumbled through bad political systems, but they were ruling over themselves. And we're talking about a problem that is entirely different in character today because we're talking about an exogenous force.↗

4:58:25@nietzsche258918We're talking about a group of people that do not identify themselves with us, that view us as something outside of them, something to have dominion over, something to exploit without group psychopathy. So that's a very, very different thing. And I will say something that I think Scott alluded to earlier, The whole kabuki theater of left versus right, of woman versus man, of black versus white, it's all going away.↗

4:58:50@nietzsche258918And it's very, very heartening to see this. Human solidarity. Maybe one day we'll be grateful for having had to overcome this to be more brothers and sisters, have more human solidarity than we ever have before. I say that it is necessarily so. and I'm looking forward to that day. But in the meantime, the Great Awakening is happening, and it's wonderful to be a part of it, my friend.↗

4:59:13@nietzsche258918Please, I look forward to the next space. And everybody else, please follow Ian, follow JoAnn, who's not here anymore, and Rabbi, and everybody else in the room. I saw Tupac down there. Thank you so much for the space, my friend.↗

4:59:25Ian MalcolmNo, absolutely. And to echo the sentiment, certainly follow Mr. David Nietzsche. I truly believe between not only the wonderful people that are in these spaces helping with these conversations, Absolutely to call out Miss JoAnn, the co-hostess with the absolute most, just like David was saying. But with thought leaders like Mr. Nietzsche and also Truth Teller and brothers from other mothers, whether it's Mr. Raed or I see Official Dre down there, or the absolutely wonderful Mr. allegedly Dank, who is helping to put all of these conversations.↗

4:59:56Ian MalcolmSo the moment this winds down, not only is it recorded on X, but it will also be in perpetuity or as long as they leave it up. on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and Rumble, not to mention ianmalcolm84.com, where these conversations will be forever logged, regardless of whatever they might try to do in terms of suppression. So a big shout out to him, to Mr. David Nietzsche.↗

5:00:16Ian MalcolmPlease give him a follow if you've not already. I don't know if that's the case, what you were doing here on X. But nonetheless, I also know Mr. Truth-teller has opened his room. So please go over there, support that man, that legend. Also support Mr. Official Dre. who is going to be debating the one and only Rabbi Shmuley.↗

5:00:35Ian MalcolmHe's got a post about that on his page if you have not seen it. But please go in there, support Mr. Truth Teller, and as always to everybody wherever you are in the world, good morning, good evening, good afternoon, certainly great day to all of you. God bless for everything that you are. Godspeed. We are going to continue winning.↗

5:00:52Ian MalcolmI look forward to tomorrow's conversation with all of you featuring the one and only musical legend, Mr. Foundry. It should be an absolutely wonderful celebration of all of the successes that we are having. Thank you so much for joining us. We'll see you guys next time.↗