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- 0:00dry, matter-of-factIntroduction: Hard Work or Exploitation?Ian Malcolm introduces the topic of tycoons JP Morgan and John D. Rockefeller, questioning if their wealth came from hard work or exploitation.
- 18:20tentative, hopefulUpcoming Spaces & Community ThanksJoAnn Marie teases upcoming 9/11 spaces and thanks the community for their support and engagement.
- 30:00warm, expansiveJP Morgan: Dispelling MythsBryce begins his presentation by tackling common misconceptions about JP Morgan, including his involvement in WWI and the Federal Reserve.
- 40:00disillusionedTesla vs. Edison: The Current WarsThe discussion delves into JP Morgan's role in the 'current wars' between Tesla's AC and Edison's DC, and the financial implications.
- 50:00grave, forebodingMorgan's Banking PhilosophyBryce explains JP Morgan's aristocratic background and his father's influence on his strict, character-based banking principles.
- 1:00:00raw, woundedWar Profiteering & Early StainsThe panel discusses JP Morgan's early controversy as a Civil War profiteer and how this shaped public perception.
- 1:10:00guarded, evenMorgan's Rise: Trusts & MonopoliesJP Morgan takes control of his father's bank and begins forming trusts to stabilize American industries like railroads.
- 1:20:00measured, soberSaving America: Financial CrisesBryce highlights Morgan's role in bailing out the US economy during multiple financial crises, often without public credit.
- 1:30:00detached, weighingMorgan's Vision for a Central BankJP Morgan's belief in a central bank run by experienced bankers, contrasting with the Federal Reserve's eventual structure.
- 1:40:00worn, nostalgicRockefeller: From Poverty to Oil EmpireThe conversation shifts to John D. Rockefeller's humble beginnings and his strategic rise to dominate the oil industry.
- 1:50:00hard, unyieldingRockefeller's Monopoly TacticsBryce details Rockefeller's methods of acquiring competitors and consolidating power through Standard Oil.
- 2:00:00broodingThe Rockefeller Foundation's LegacyThe panel debates the true intentions and impact of the Rockefeller Foundation, distinguishing between father and son's visions.
- 2:10:00heated, combativeTruthTeller's Challenge: Masons & RothschildsTruthTeller challenges Bryce's narrative, asserting JP Morgan and Rockefeller's Masonic ties and Rothschild backing.
- 2:20:00charged, alertThe Titanic Conspiracy & Federal ReserveTruthTeller presents the controversial theory of the Olympic/Titanic swap and its connection to Federal Reserve opponents.
- 2:30:00calm, distantHistorical Interpretation & EvidenceThe discussion delves into the nature of historical facts, primary sources, and the role of logic in understanding the past.
- 2:40:00sombre, searchingRockefeller's Influence on Medicine & EducationThe panel debates Rockefeller's impact on conventional medicine, the Flexner Report, and the American schooling system.
- 2:50:00conflicted, dividedMonopolies vs. InnovationThe hosts and guests debate whether monopolies stifle or drive innovation, using historical examples like Tesla's wireless electricity.
- 3:00:00dimmed, waryThe Morgan Bank's TransformationA question arises about when and how JP Morgan's bank transitioned from its original principles to its current form.
- 3:10:00grim, scorchedJewish Influence on Banking & PowerThe conversation explores the historical and ongoing influence of Jewish families and financiers on global banking and power structures.
- 3:20:00smouldering, restlessThe 9/11 Truth DebateThe discussion shifts to the 9/11 attacks, with guests challenging the official narrative and presenting alternative theories.
- 3:30:00urgent, incendiaryUS Foreign Policy & IranTruthTeller provides updates on the Iran war, criticizing US foreign policy and its impact on the region.
- 3:40:00warm, expansiveReflections on Tycoons & TruthIan Malcolm and JoAnn Marie reflect on the complex legacies of Morgan and Rockefeller, encouraging critical thinking and continued truth-seeking.
- 3:50:00weathered, resignedUpcoming Spaces & Community EngagementJoAnn Marie announces upcoming spaces on various topics, inviting listeners to engage and suggest future discussions.
- 4:00:00quiet, reflectiveFinal Thoughts: Standing for TruthIan Malcolm concludes the space by emphasizing the importance of standing up for truth and continuing the journey of discovery.
- 4:10:00bleak, drainedCommunity Appreciation & FarewellJoAnn Marie expresses gratitude to all participants and listeners, highlighting the value of diverse perspectives.
- 4:20:00eerie, electricNext Space: Chinese TechnocracyIan Malcolm previews the next space on Chinese technocracy with an FBI whistleblower, encouraging listeners to join.
The Transcript
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Ian MalcolmAre you going to be able to name that tune and name that artist?
@joann_marieIan, I don't understand why you're doing this to me. I'm going to guess something about money and honey.
Ian MalcolmAll right. Well, it is She Works Hard for the Money. So can you guess the artist behind that song by any chance?
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Ian MalcolmWho Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the top of my list, I have a list of the top 10 songs I've ever listened to.
Ian MalcolmWell, two things. Number one, I like to jump all around the genre map, right? And that was definitely a little outside of the norm. But it's also, right, that song is about essentially a hardworking woman, right? Downtrodden, she's just trying to get by, working in the big city. You know, it's talking about her getting up, she's going out, she's doing all her things.
Ian MalcolmAnd there's a lot of people that are in that boat today. If we think about it, now more than ever, we saw that study that came out that of all people, Bernie Sanders referenced the idea that right now, the American economy per person, per employee is generating something like two to 350% the economic activity of just a generation ago.
Ian MalcolmSo what does that mean? That means that people are working
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Ian MalcolmSo I thought it might be fitting because the people that we are going to be talking about, the tycoons of yesteryear. Well, I'm going to be very curious. Were these individuals like Henry Ford that we talked about in the prior space with Bryce that was absolutely epic? We will put that in the purple pill in case you did not listen to it so that you can listen to that playback another time.
Ian MalcolmHe walked through how Henry Ford grew up on a farm, a working class guy. Who put his intuition, he put his hard work, he put his morals forward, and he built an incredible company. But how about these other tycoons that we're going to be discussing here? Were they working, as was said by Donna Summer, hard for the money?
Ian MalcolmOr were they just riding off the back of other people like a lot of the billionaire class today? And so we're going to be exploring who are those individuals? What were they doing? Where did that money come from? Were they productively building things up like Henry Ford was? Or were they perhaps parasitizing off the backs of others, right?
Ian MalcolmSo we're going to open that in just a second. Before we do, I want to make a couple little quick announcements. First and foremost, I wanted to thank Bryce for coming back once again. Like I just mentioned, we did that space on Henry Ford. It was epic. We will put that again into the pill so that you guys can listen to that.
Ian MalcolmSpeaking of listening back, you'll be able to access that either here on X, Or if you might be on one of the other platforms listening to the playback of this discourse, of course, it's also on Apple Podcast, on Spotify, on Rumble, and on ianmalcolm84.com. Thanks to the incomparable Mr. Allegedly Dank and his unbelievable work with AI.
Ian MalcolmSpeaking of technologists, I also want to give two little cents here on Nikita Beyer. Just came out, he announced that he is going to be stepping down as the head of product of X. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With $5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Ian MalcolmThey're able to be now ported onto these other platforms. And as a result, you know, we've got spaces that JoAnn has helped to set up, like the one that we did the other day with Kevin McDonald, right? We are able to hold conversations and discourse, not only with brilliant people like Bryce, but also with academics, with celebrities, right?
Ian MalcolmWe're holding spaces with people like Dan Bilzerian all the way to E. Michael Jones, people that I had read about for years and years and years. Others that I had seen on television countless times, right? So we're able to have these conversations. And so I want to thank, in spite of all my criticisms, I want to thank Nikita Baer and I want to thank Elon Musk for letting us have these discourses again, right?
Ian MalcolmWe could critique a million different things, but I also like to always call the few strikes that we get in addition to all the balls, right? And in this case, I like to give essentially gratitude for Nikita, for what he had done. I hope that whoever follows him opens the reins on free speech. I hope that we get a less
Ian MalcolmLet's say Jewish supremacist-run application. But I can also appreciate, JoAnn, in the back of my mind, oftentimes these things just result in something far worse. People thought Barack Obama was bad, and he was once upon a time. But oh boy, wasn't Joe Biden substantially worse? So we see how oftentimes things that we...
Ian MalcolmWe really dislike sometimes we look back on with fondness in a not so distant, even more dystopian future. So again, I want to give some thanks and gratitude to Nikita Beyer. Thanks to, of course, Allegedly Dank for moving all these conversations over to that other platform in the event that that future administration nukes us.
Ian MalcolmAn immense amount of thanks, not only for Kevin McDonald, also for the folks from the Nationalist Party who joined us yesterday, for all the other voices and listeners. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With $10,000.00
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Ian MalcolmYeah, if you want to give a little teaser on that.
@joann_marieYeah, we have a really big 9-11 space coming up and we have a couple of really cool, interesting guests that I think everybody's going to love. We're going to interview Richard Gage. He was one of the architects who did that... Oh my God, what is it called? It's... He talked about how it's impossible for the Twin Towers to fall down and he has like a big project happening.
@joann_marieSo he's coming and TruthTeller is also coming. We're trying with a lot of really interesting people. So no, it's amazing. So thank you so much, Ian. And thank you for hosting and Bryce for being here. I am very excited to learn more about. Especially Rockefeller and JP Morgan, which I do not like, but I'm opening my mind to see if they're actually good people, you know, because you told me and you have really cool sources.
@joann_marieSo I want to learn more about it. And also, guys, please repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and Bryce and Rabbi up here and also bookmark it. It helps so much with the algorithm. So, no, happy to be here. And over to you, Ian.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and that's one little final thing. Again, so on 9-11, we got a whole bunch. And in fact, JoAnn basically has us fully booked Monday through Thursday from now until almost the middle of September, which is pretty wild with spaces for all of you guys. I don't know how she keeps track of all of it, but that is going to include, like she was saying, the Richard Gage space.
Ian MalcolmHe, for what it's worth, was, if I'm not mistaken, the founder or the head and founder. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With ______________________________
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Ian MalcolmAs we did roughly three years ago in one of the earlier largely attended spaces. I think that space had over 100,000 people that listened to it.
@joann_marieIt was so epic. I was in it and it's one of the most amazing spaces I've been on. I was like, we need to do that again.
Ian MalcolmNo, that one was, I think at one point we had something like 2,000 to 3,000 concurrent listeners. Like I said, there were 100,000 people that came through and we actually, I'll never forget. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With a lot of love to and I want to celebrate because I understand decent backup, aka Jonathan.
Ian MalcolmI think that he is out and about back on the streets for some period of time. He was in that room and he notified me of a space that was being held as we were doing our space that was basically just asking individuals to either not pay attention to or perhaps even to mass report what we were doing. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the end of the day, the individual Brian something, I can't remember his name, directly connected to Michael Chertoff and a whole bunch of other people that might have been pretty critical for what happened on that day.
Ian MalcolmSo insane to think about even three years ago when we were just kind of launching this whole program. To think that they were actively going at us and trying to discredit us and heckle us and all those other kind of things. Isn't it ironic? Because all it did is bring more attention to the space, which was great. So we will do another one of those.
Ian MalcolmI'm very excited for it. And speaking of not only Jonathan, aka decent backup, I want to give him lots of love wherever he might be in the ether. But I also, speaking of ether, I want to give love and prayers to Dom Documents. Who some of you guys might remember, one of the original truthers. Dom passed away about a year and a half, if I'm not mistaken, ago.
Ian MalcolmHe was a wonderful, wonderful soul. I had my disagreements with him from time to time, right? But a lovely human being, spoke a lot of these truths. He was one of the original big time content creators. He made multiple documentaries. I don't think he ever made a dime for any of the work that he did. He was doing it because he was sincere.
Ian MalcolmAbout trying to fix these problems. And as a last little thing, wherever he might be in that ether, I hope that he has his guitar. Because when we used to do those spaces once every couple months where we would have people come in and either sing a song or do some kind of rendition of karaoke, he came in, Dom Documents, who I didn't know could sing at all.
Ian MalcolmI knew he was clearly creative because he made these unbelievable documentaries. He came in and did a John Mayer song. And I'll put that into the purple pill as well. It blew me away how talented this man was. And so lots of love wherever, again, he might be in the ether. He was one of the real deal 9-11 truthers and JQers who, when I first started kind of participating in this ex-verse in spaces anyway, he was one of the people that I absolutely revered for the work that he had done.
Ian MalcolmSo with all that being said, very excited, Bryce. I apologize for the big buildup. A lot that we have going on. Super excited that you are here. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to you for essentially a presentation. Take all the time that you would like, my friend, to unpack this. Maybe let's start with the who you're going to be covering.
Ian MalcolmThen we can dive into each. And people, if you do want to come up and ask questions, feel free to request a mic. We'll bring you up. We'll do a lot of Q&A at the end.
@brycemlipscombCan I just say something real quick before we start?
Ian MalcolmOf course, my friend.
@brycemlipscombI just want to, you know, we've got a pretty big audience. You have a pretty big audience. Guys, if you could, and just tweet out something to Elon Musk. In support of Isabel Taperalta, who had the courage to stand in front of the Moroccan embassy in Madrid and call for an end of the invasion of her country. She is a fierce anti-Zionist.
@brycemlipscombShe is a brilliant Francoist. She is a Catholic nationalist, and she deserves to have her voice heard, and she deserves to have the things that she wants to say Thanks for letting me have that little shout out, Ian.
Ian MalcolmNo, of course, my friend, and gonna be very excited for everything that you're about to unpack. And again, maybe the best place to start here, Bryce, is just gonna be with kind of a roster of who you're gonna be covering. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the end of Bryce's overview. And feel free to ask those questions in the Purple Pill as well.
Ian MalcolmWho Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With ______________________.
@brycemlipscombWell, I appreciate that. And I'm going to focus today on two individuals. We're going to focus on JP Morgan and John D. Rockefeller. And I'm going to do one at a time because that's just how my brain works. So I'm going to start with JP Morgan and then go into John D. Rockefeller. And really what I want to do is take apart some of the myths and just give you the actual facts of these individuals.
@brycemlipscombBut before I start, if you will indulge me, for those of you listening, if you can use your little emoji buttons, how many of you have heard that JP Morgan helped start World War I? Just using your emojis, if anybody can just give a thumb up or a heart or whatever that JP Morgan was one of the people that started World War I.
@brycemlipscombHow many of you have heard that?
Ian MalcolmOkay, not many of you. I'll give you a little indirectly would be my response, but I see some other thumbs up.
@brycemlipscombOkay, how many of you heard that JP Morgan created the Federal Reserve?
@joann_marieHelp create, yeah, I've heard that one.
@brycemlipscombOkay, so there's some hands going on and there's some emojis. I'm gonna hurt some of you guys here. JP Morgan died in 1913, and he died a few months before the Federal Reserve was even created. As we know, 1913 was far before World War I. Morgan had absolutely nothing to do with World War I. That was actually his son, Jack.
@brycemlipscombSo one of the things that I was really excited about Ian allowing me to do this space and asking me to come back is that, like Henry Ford, JP Morgan and John D. Rockefeller are two of the biggest individuals that are dragged through the mud historically. And they're attacked from the left, but they're also attacked from the right.
@brycemlipscombWhat I'm hoping to do through this is to maybe open your mind a little bit to the fact that history is basically just a PR scam.
@brycemlipscombThose that push history are not giving you the full context of everything. The left that tells you that JP Morgan was involved with Tesla and was the reason that Tesla went broke. Those are actually, that's false. And I'm going to start with the Tesla thing because I think that that's the most exciting one, right? When he was creating the AC current and he was at war with the DC current, which was Edison.
@brycemlipscombAnd everybody, And I heard it the other day, AJ Gentile, if you guys have heard him, on his podcast, The Y Files, said it too, that it was Morgan who backed Tesla, and because Tesla wanted to make electricity free for everybody, Morgan pulled his funding from him. Well, I'm here to tell you, Morgan never backed Nikola Tesla.
@brycemlipscombGeorge Westinghouse was the man who backed Nikola Tesla. JP Morgan backed Thomas Edison. And there was a war for the currents. You know, Tesla wasn't looking to give for free because Westinghouse was going to need to make money off of it. The idea was that they were going to provide cheap alternative energy. And so Nikola Tesla and George Westinghouse were actually winning the war on AC currents.
@brycemlipscombThe problem that was happening was that there was a huge financial crisis in the early 1900s. And Westinghouse's money was kind of wrapped up into the stock market at the time, and he was going bust. And what JP Morgan did was basically said, hey, I'll bail you out. I will bail you out of this mess, but I want you to basically give up Tesla and come and back Edison.
@brycemlipscombI want you to just walk away from AC Current. And that's what Westinghouse did. In order to make the money that he had lost, basically he was going bankrupt. He walked away from Nikola Tesla. Tesla had given him the patents, which was not smart, and basically Westinghouse just ripped him up. But this is what happens when you're in a war for domination, right?
@brycemlipscombIt's not that, you know, JP Morgan went out of his way to fuck over the United States. Back in the day, electricity was affordable. It wasn't something that only the rich could have. It started out as only the rich because people were terrified of electricity. They thought it would burn their houses down. They thought that the devil was involved with it.
@brycemlipscombSo there was a lot of issues with electricity that common individuals believed that if they put this in their house, that they were going to end up hurting their families. It was never that it was going to be this free thing that everybody was going to get. Yes, Nikola Tesla, who was a brilliant man, wanted to provide electricity at a very, very cheap cost.
@brycemlipscombHe was also looking for ways to create energy without having to have like a reader on your house. When Westinghouse went broke, Morgan was able to back him up. That's just what businessmen do, right? And so this notion came along that it was Morgan who ruined Nikola Tesla. And partially true that he bailed out George Westinghouse and Westinghouse walked away from Tesla.
@brycemlipscombBut it was in the midst of one of the biggest current wars in America. And it was a brutal one. And so... This is the perfect way to start with JP Morgan. JP Morgan was born in the 1830s. I believe it was 1837. His father Junius Morgan was a banker. So JP Morgan was born into the aristocracy. And this man named George Peabody, he was a famous banker in London.
@brycemlipscombAnd in the 1800s, so from basically the time that banking started to about... Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the end of the 1800s, London was the city of the financial world. It was the capital of the financial world. And this man named George Peabody had one of the biggest houses, which is what banks are called, by the way.
@brycemlipscombYou're going to hear me saying house, the house of Morgan, the house of Peabody. That just means they're banks. And Junius started out as a merchant. So he was in merchantiles. And back in the day, it was merchants who made a ton of money. And one of the things that merchants did with that money was they created a banking system.
@brycemlipscombThat's where you get merchant banking. These were the people who started the banking industry, the merchants. And they lived by a code. Everything was done with a handshake, and everything was done based off character. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at that time up until about 19...
@brycemlipscombBanking was done based on a handshake and based on your moral character, whether or not they could trust you, whether or not that you were going to create a business and you were going to follow through with that business no matter what. Now, JP Morgan moved over to the United States. He was born here after his father went over to England to be with George Peabody.
@brycemlipscombPeabody told I'm going to give you my business and I'm going to give you my name and I'm going to give you $10,000 to start so that you can keep this bank going. And unfortunately for Junius Morgan, when Peabody retired, he was one of the richest men, if not the richest man in England, and decided that, you know what, I don't think I am going to give you my name.
@brycemlipscombI'm not going to give you that $10,000 startup. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@brycemlipscombAnd JP Morgan had a very rough childhood. His father would leave, and he and his wife would go to a dinner or go to a play, and Junius would hand JP Morgan a company's book, and he would say, by the time we get home, this needs to be balanced. And this is when Morgan was five to ten years old. This is what his father was doing to him almost every night.
@brycemlipscombMake these books balance. And so Morgan, at a very young age, learned the value of money, learned the value of a dollar, learned how to build a prosperous bank, but also What made companies valuable? And see, this was something that was going to really help Morgan as he created one of the biggest banking empires in the world.
@brycemlipscombAnd so he comes over to America again, and he creates a New York Manhattan bank through his father. Junius was... I'm not going to let JP Morgan do it by himself. And Junius decided that JP Morgan, you know what, his son's just not good enough. So his son needs somebody to be with him. And so the first Morgan bank Speakers in New York was actually called Drexler Morgan.
@brycemlipscombThey brought a man from Ohio who was a big banker at the time. His last name was Drexler. And they became partners. And basically Drexler was going to run the business and kind of teach Morgan how to do everything. And here's the thing, like Morgan's in his 30s now and his father is not allowing him to... Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@brycemlipscombThis is the 1860s. Civil War is going on. JP Morgan has paid somebody to step in and fight for him, which all the rich people did back then. You didn't have to be drafted if you could pay the, you know, $300 to pay somebody to fight for you. And so that's what Morgan did. Rockefeller did the same thing. All the rich people, Vanderbilts, whatever, all of them did that.
@brycemlipscombThis wasn't, you know, something that was just Morgan did. But Morgan gets into this business where they buy at discount the rifles that the Union Army is using. And then they refurbish them into a new caliber rifle. And they sell it back to the Army for profit, and quite a bit of profit. And this actually comes out. And the news media at the time says, you know, Morgan is a war profiteer.
@brycemlipscombAnd he, you know, he's making his money off of the Civil War. He's making it off the backs of, you know, the soldiers that are fighting. And this little blip on his, kind of stain on his honor, this will stay with him for the rest of his life. This is where people are going to say that he...
@brycemlipscombHe was making money off of World War I. He pushed us into World War I. Obviously, he was dead at this time. But this is where you get a lot of this. This is where the myth of Morgan starts, right? And this news gets all the way back to London and back to Junius, who takes a steamship to New York and scolds his son, basically threatens to take away his son, disown him, and remove him from the banking business entirely.
@brycemlipscombHowever, Junius only had JP Morgan and was not going to do that. He gave his son one more shot. And his son decided that he was never going to do something like that again. He was only going to get involved in businesses that he was sure there was a need for. And one of the businesses that Morgan saw a need for was electricity.
@brycemlipscombHe was one of the first people to have electricity in his house. He thought this was a brilliant idea. He felt like people are going to want this, right? Instead of having to buy kerosene and oil to light your house, you can do it from just a flick of a switch. There's no fire involved. There's no combustion. There's no nothing.
@brycemlipscombAnd he thoroughly believed that people were going to want this, but there was an extra kick to this. He could also screw over John D. Rockefeller, who he hated. More than anybody, in fact, the only person he hated more than John D. Rockefeller was Rothschild, Baron von Rothschild. And so they're getting involved. They go to the Chicago World's Fair.
@brycemlipscombThey show the power of DC, but they're up against Nikola Tesla, who also shows the power of AC. And during this time, There is just brutal amounts of spending being done by both the Bank of Morgan and Westinghouse. And each are trying to show that their electricity is more affordable and their electricity is better. And Westinghouse is actually winning.
@brycemlipscombHe is taking... From JP Morgan and people are actually going to go with AC. Now Junius comes back and tells JP Morgan to forget about electricity. Electricity is stupid. Nobody's ever going to want this. This is the devil's work. We're not getting involved in the devil's work. And tells his son to sell every single interest that he has in what would become General Electric.
@brycemlipscombAnd Morgan is just beside himself. He truly believes that electricity is going to be the future. Well, something happens. His father returns to London, and as his father was taking a carriage ride from the steamship back to his house, his carriage actually overturns, and his father is basically killed. And JP Morgan in his 40s is now in charge.
@brycemlipscombThe House of Morgan for the very first time. And JP Morgan decides he's not gonna do business the way that his father did. He's not just gonna be a passive banker. He is going to help fix the financial problems that the United States is facing. He is going to help create trusts and monopolies that will build the future of America.
@brycemlipscombAnd when we hear monopolies, we hear monopolies as something that's evil, right? Like that these people are creating a system in which it's only lucrative for them. Well, I want you to go back and do your own research, but look up the railway systems in the late 1800s. They were going bankrupt. By the time that Vanderbilt had died, the railways were becoming...
@brycemlipscombPeople were kind of obsolete. The car had already come out. People were going more and more towards the automobile. And there was this brutal competition within the railroads that basically they were competing each other to death. They were destroying the railroad industry because they kept competing with each other so badly.
@brycemlipscombThey kept on lowering the prices and lowering the prices. And they lowered the prices so much they weren't actually making any money. Morgan came in and thought, this is the dumbest thing ever. This is stupid. You guys are competing so much and so chaotically that your industries are about to fail. And we can't have the railroad system fail yet.
@brycemlipscombWe still need to get goods from point A to point B. And the railroads are going to be instrumental in growing the oil industry, growing the steel industry, basically the backbone of America. And so Morgan stepped in and said, you guys You need to stop. All of you need to stop. And all of the heads of each railroad, you need to come together and we're going to create one giant trust company.
@brycemlipscombYou're all going to be a part of it. But we're going to make the fares are going to be X amount of dollars. They're not going to go up. And we're all going to be uniformed from now on. Everything's just going to be uniformity. The competition is going to die. And what that ended up doing Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the time we took loans from london and if you're in the banking industry the last thing that you want is people looking at your bank because you're headquartered in the united states and looking down on you you know you can't get anything done you can't get
@brycemlipscombThese corporations, the money they need to grow if nobody's going to invest in the United States. And that's what was happening. Because of the chaos that was created by the brutal competition of these inept individuals who ran these railroads, they ended up not only hurting their business, but hurting other businesses as well and hurting the United States' capability of making money off the tariffs.
@brycemlipscombAnd states were defaulting on loans to London. They were defaulting on loans to Paris. And you don't want to be in the banking industry and have the two most important cities in the banking world looking at you as though you're not worth it. You're not going to make it. Your corporations and everything, basically your economy is just going to die.
@brycemlipscombAnd so Morgan stepped in and he actually saved. The railroad industry. Now, we may not like the way that he saved the railroad industry. We may not like that there was a trust set up where all these guys came together and just decided on uniformity and a strict price. But it's not like they were price gouging. They weren't.
@brycemlipscombThat's not what that was about. That's what is happening now. We price gouge now because we want to get the most dollar out of everything. They created a price that would allow them profit and would allow people to travel relatively at ease and with not much expense, as well as helping the businesses be able to afford to get their goods to New York so that they could ship them all over the world.
@brycemlipscombThis was a great thing. So Morgan saved the railroad industry, which then saved America financially. The House of Morgan becomes now one of the most important banks in the United States. Now, when you think of the House of Morgan and you think of banks, you think of somebody where you put your money and you have your money and checking account.
@brycemlipscombWell, you're not going to have an account with JP Morgan & Company if you don't at least have a million dollars to put into that bank. Strict rules and codes. He wasn't just a banker for everybody. He was a banker for business. That was strictly what he did. He loaned money to businesses. And when he was able to build the company's wealth, he loaned money to countries.
@brycemlipscombAnd that's what our banking industry was doing before the creation of the Federal Reserve. Now we run into this issue Where we think that Morgan is coming in and he is trying to wring the last dime from Every corporation that he gets involved with. I've heard that he owned the copper industry. He owned the steel industry.
@brycemlipscombHe didn't own any of that, actually. When JP Morgan died, he was worth $100 million. And with the debts that he had, that whittled away to almost nothing. So here's a man who everybody thinks is this massive billionaire. He wasn't even a billionaire. He was worth, you know, at that time, yes, $100 million is a lot of money.
@brycemlipscombBut when you take it against John D. Rockefeller, who at the time was worth, you know, $690 billion. That's nothing. It's a drop in the well. Where Morgan's power came from was not his own money, was not that he owned anything other than his bank. His bank became the mechanism that allowed American corporations to borrow money, to succeed, and to grow.
@brycemlipscombAnd one of the things that What the House of Morgan did was put a Morgan associate onto the... Board of Directors of any company that they got involved with. They wanted to make sure that basically that this company was going to do everything that was right, that they were going to be using the money correctly, and more importantly, that they were also going to be paying what was called the living wage.
@brycemlipscombMorgan believed that you can't run a railroad empire, you can't run a steel empire, you can't run those trusts if your people are not willing to work. And at that time, just like there is now, these plants, steel plants, coal, excuse me, I'm sorry about that, coal plants, railroads, they had high turnover rates. And the idea was, well, you're not paying these people enough.
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@brycemlipscombAnd what he would end up doing is creating a bevy of trusts through the House of Morgan. A steel trust, a coal trust, a copper trust. None that he ran himself. He had, like I said, Morgan bankers on their board of directors, but he didn't run any of these businesses. The Morgan bankers were just there to... Basically make sure that the company was running financially sound.
@brycemlipscombAnd if there was any kind of need or any kind of questions that the company would need to ask the banker, the banker was there. And it's a system that worked very well. Now, before the Federal Reserve came about, we had multiple financial crises. We had several financial crises in the late 1800s and one in particular where basically people were selling stocks short and they thought that they would be able to borrow a bunch of money from banks and banks were willing to just let them borrow all this money to sell the stock short.
@brycemlipscombBut the stock never went up. And all of these loans were due. So basically what happens when you sell a stock short, you're buying a stock at a discounted price, but eventually you're going to have to pay for that stock if it doesn't go up, if it just lingers and you're on the hook for that money. And what ended up happening was the loans came due and none of these people could pay back.
@brycemlipscombAnd the banks didn't like were... The Wall Street was tanking and tanking fast. JP Morgan had his office right across the street from the Wall Street, where people would do trade stocks.
@brycemlipscombMorgan hated the stock market. He thought that was a low thing. That's what low people do. They get involved with stocks. They put money that they don't have into stocks, hoping that they're going to break it rich. And more than not, they end up going bust and they end up destroying themselves. So what Morgan did was...
@brycemlipscombThe president of the stock exchange came over to him freaking out and said, you know, we're going to have to close the stock exchange. We're going to have to shut down everything. We don't know what to do. And basically what Morgan did was in his gruff way with a big cigar in his mouth, slammed his fist on the table and said, you're not going to close.
@brycemlipscombThe market. You're going to keep going as though business has not been disruptive. You're going to let the business go as it is. Things tank, things tank. What I'm going to do is reach out to some individuals and you're going to come back to me in about five hours. And they came back to him in about five hours and he had enough money.
@brycemlipscombHe had gathered enough money through the Rockefellers, through the Vandervelts, through the Carnegies and a few other of the wealthiest people of America and got enough money to cut back in to the stock market and stopped basically what would have been a massive depression. That was the beauty of JP Morgan. Morgan had the ability to get money from anybody.
@brycemlipscombAnd if you guys know Rockefeller, Rockefeller didn't like to give money away. The fact that he was able to get billions of dollars from John D. Rockefeller so that he could put into the stock market and save the market and basically save the United States financially is a huge deal. And he never got any credit for it, and he never asked credit for it.
@brycemlipscombLike, he never went around and said, I saved the United States from ruin. It just went, you know, everybody went through their day having absolutely no idea that, you know, without Morgan coming in and saving them, That basically the United States would have been bust. Now, Morgan did want to have a centralized bank. He did believe in a central bank.
@brycemlipscombLondon has a central bank. Paris has a central bank. Basically, the idea of the central bank was that you're not going to have all of this disruption and these financial collapse if you have one centralized bank that can kind of steer the ship away from danger. And his idea was that bankers would be a part of it, like bankers would run the central bank and they would take in, you know, put in money and if there was a financial problem, the money would be brought in through them and then spread out.
@brycemlipscombWhat Wilson actually ended up doing was using economists. The Federal Reserve was nothing like what JP Morgan envisioned. He had no Use for economists. He thought they were useless. He hated pinheads. He hated people that were, you know, academics. He really had no use for academics. If you don't have the ability to make money, then you don't have really a lot of, I guess, what's the word that I'm looking for?
@brycemlipscombYou don't hold a lot of weight in his eyes, right? And these economists, they didn't really make money. They came up with theories, they came up with ideas, and none of them were really tried and true. These theories were just like, hey, if we try this, then this will happen. Morgan had been in the banking industry forever and said, well, no, none of these theories are going to work.
@brycemlipscombWhat you need is bankers who have... You know, years and years of experience that could come in and set the ship right. So when we look at the Federal Reserve today and we see the governors and the people that sit on their Federal Reserve, what you're seeing is economists sitting on there. You're seeing the academic. And both Rockefeller and JP Morgan warned about the academic.
@brycemlipscombThey warned that the people that sought to We're not people that understood how the real world worked. If you didn't understand how a company got money or how a company started or how the employees, you know, how the day-to-day operations worked, you're not really useful.
@brycemlipscombWhat we have now today is we have economists ruling the banking industry and it has destroyed our country. When we had bankers, like actual bankers that knew what they were doing, like JP Morgan, our country was solid. We were the richest country in the world. We went through the Industrial Revolution faster than... Any nation, and that includes England, which at the time was the most industrialized nation.
@brycemlipscombAnd it was because of people like JP Morgan. If we didn't have Morgan, we would have not had the industrial revolution that we had here. We wouldn't see the companies that built this country, the steel industry, the coal industry, the railroad industry. He... He helped build them. He helped give them the financial support that they needed so that they could go out and build our economy.
@brycemlipscombAnd, you know, we hate Morgan because we see him as just a banker and we have a negative connotation to bankers. And we think of bankers as, and I don't mean, I'm not trying to be rude or anything like that, but we see bankers as the money lenders who use usury to keep the American people enslaved to the money machine.
@brycemlipscombBut that's not what banking was back then. In fact, JP Morgan was kind of an anti-Semite. He refused to do business With Jews, unless he absolutely had to. He hated the Rothschild family. He basically banned them from doing business in the United States. He thought that they were the worst type of banker. He felt usury was not a way to build an economy, but it's only a way to build a personal fortune.
@brycemlipscombWhen he made loans, it wasn't loan, you know, they weren't... What Rothschild did, and he did it very well in Europe, was he invested in your company and you paid a huge amount of interest to him. And if your company couldn't survive, basically what would end up happening is he would end up owning your company. And he made billions and billions of dollars being able to do that.
@brycemlipscombHe was a dishonest broker. He was a dishonest banker. He made the banking profession a profession of usury. Morgan was not like that. Morgan believed that banking was a higher institution that demanded a better type of individual at the helm. His mindset was that Jews are ruining the banking industry. They only get involved in banking to harm other individuals.
@brycemlipscombAnd that also built a negative outlook on JP Morgan. When he held those beliefs and he refused to do business with... You know, some of the bigger bankers at the time who happened to be Jews. He was seen as an individual who was racist, antisemitic. The Rothschilds, you know, did whatever they could to ruin his standing, at least in Europe.
@brycemlipscombIt was very difficult to do, but they tried and they did a very good job of it in Germany. They weren't able to do that in Paris or in London because Morgan basically ran Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at this time. But to your point, Ian, right now, when you see bankers and you see the people who own, especially the people who own the House of Morgan now, you see people that are charging exorbitant amount of interest on loans, student loans, car loans, housing loans, business loans, you know, 20, the average, I think, for a credit card now is 20-something percent.
@brycemlipscombThat's just Ungodly. This was not the banking of the Morgan age. This was not what you did. You didn't go out of your way to create dependency. You went out of your way to ensure that the loan that you were getting was going to a strong company who could survive and build something and build something powerful. And all of the companies that Morgan backed did just that.
@brycemlipscombWithout JP Morgan, we would not have the railroads. Without JP Morgan, we would not have steel. Without JP Morgan, we would not have coal. Without JP Morgan, the United States would have been bankrupt. We would have defaulted to London and to Paris, and God knows what would have happened to us. But this man stepped in not once, not twice, three times, and bailed us out each time.
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@brycemlipscombAnd it ended up harming those industries like really, really badly later on. But the amount of vigor that Wilson and Roosevelt went after Morgan eventually killed him. And it's too bad because here's a guy who, though he did certain things that were not great, he is responsible. For America Being What It Is Today. We're a superpower.
@brycemlipscombWe're a financial giant. New York is the epicenter of the financial world because of JP Morgan. And the banking industry was strong and corporations were strong because people like JP Morgan existed. Carnegie wouldn't have been able to finance himself.
@brycemlipscombWho Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at that time had Morgan not come in and bought U.S. steel from him and turned it into a trust. And steel, you know, the steel production in the United States just boomed after that. And when they broke up the steel industry and when they broke up a lot of his other trusts, Slowly over time, what ended up happening is these companies ended up going bust.
@brycemlipscombAnd very few of those companies exist now. They're bought up by foreign entities, they're bought up by Chinese companies, or they folded back into U.S. Steel. And really, had we just kept the trusts the way they were, nobody was being harmed by it. And you can look it up yourself. Nobody wasn't...
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@brycemlipscombBecause of JP Morgan, a lot of these companies survived the Great Depression and were able to pay their workers a higher wage than their competitors. U.S. Steel was able to raise their wages during the Great Depression. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the highest rate that it can be. These jobs that were provided by U.S. Steel, by the railroad industry, by the copper industry, by the coal industry, by the oil industry, those people
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@brycemlipscombAnd to set aside the myths for a little while and to do just a tiny bit of research on your own and to see whether or not these myths hold up. And some of the myths do, but most of them don't. And there's a great book I recommend everybody read by Ron Chernow. It's called The House of Morgan. One of the... Best written books on not just Junius Morgan, but it starts from Junius Morgan and it ends with Jack Morgan, JP's son.
@brycemlipscombAnd you really get an idea of how important JP Morgan was to the financial health of the United States. Did he help pick a president? Yes. He got with Carnegie. Rockefeller, he got with Vanderbilt, and they did put a significant amount of money and was the most money at the time into William McKinley's presidential campaign.
@brycemlipscombAnd they did that because the person that was running against William McKinley was basically a communist. And they saw that if this man became elected, he was going to take him off the gold standard. And Morgan was a... Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With $1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Speaker 1Did JP Morgan oppose fractional reserve banking?
@brycemlipscombI don't know. He did not.
Speaker 1He did not, and that's fraud. Anyway, I'll refute all the points you've made after you're done. You can go ahead.
@brycemlipscombNow we get to my favorite person, which is John D. Rockefeller. Rockefeller was born into abject poverty. And Rockefeller's father was a bigamist. He ended up having multiple families. He was a liar, a cheat, a scumbag, and basically cheated his son every chance that he could. So Rockefeller grew up in a very unsteady household.
@brycemlipscombHis mother was a devout Baptist and he grew up Clinging to her and clinging to the word of the Bible and clinging to the word of the Baptist church. He never drank, he never smoked. He also did not indulge in caffeine. It was a weird little thing that he refused to do because at that time the church saw that as a negative.
@brycemlipscombRockefeller started in a merchantile company in Cleveland, Ohio. He ran their books. And he did such a good job running their books that he started making his way up the ladder at the company. And he ended up saving about $10,000, and he did it in a very short amount of time. And one of the things that he realized going through and watching this merchant was that oil happened to provide the most...
@brycemlipscombWho Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the time he started to recognize that the oil business was the wild, wild west. The people that were digging it up
@brycemlipscombWe're charging exorbitant amounts of money to the refiners. The railroads were charging a horrible amount of money to get the oil from point A to point B. And he realized that all of this competition was actually killing the oil business. So what he did was he set out and created an oil trust, and he created what would become Standard Oil of America.
@brycemlipscombAnd this idea was that they were going to get All the oil companies to come together under one giant roof. And that was going to set the standard of what the costs were going to be. They were going to basically hold the railroad companies to a standard, how much they could and could not charge them. And he... He had some trouble getting people to back this.
@brycemlipscombAnd basically what he did was he funded himself. He funded his own corporation and started buying out refiners all throughout the Midwest that were struggling. And what he ended up doing was getting like 40% of the Midwest oil refinery business. And from that point on, he undersold everybody. He cut costs so dramatically that he was able to destroy his competition.
@brycemlipscombAnd you would come and you would meet Rockefeller, and Rockefeller would give you an option. I'll give you money. I'll pay you out for what I believe your company's worth, or I'll give you stock in Standard Oil. And he would tell people, I really believe, and I can't tell you enough, take the stock. Don't take the money, take the stock.
@brycemlipscombMost people would end up taking the money, but the people that ended up taking the stock, these people became some of the wealthiest individuals in America. And this is where the story of JD Rockefeller goes from truth to myth. People are told that Rockefeller came in and said, you don't have a choice. You're coming in and I'm not going to give you shit.
@brycemlipscombYou're going to take this and you're just going to like it. Rockefeller made deals with people like, your company can't continue to go the route that it's going anymore, you cannot compete with me. Join me, join Standard Oil, come on, stop fighting me, and either take money or take stock. And a lot of people ended up doing that.
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@brycemlipscombThis vision, right? He wants to be the richest man that has ever lived. And this is something that he wanted to do since he was a young boy. He grew up in a financially deprived home. He wanted to make sure that he never was going to want for anything ever again. And he believed that the oil industry was going to be the way to do this.
@brycemlipscombSo he started going and taking the Standard Oil people and undercutting every oil company throughout the country. And people couldn't afford to keep up with Rockefeller. And what eventually ended up happening, as it happened everywhere that he went, was either you sold out to him, and not for cheap, like he gave.
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@brycemlipscombAnd if competition was going to kill the business, what he had to do was take over the business. And that's what he set out to do, and he did it. And he did it better than anybody has ever done in the history of this country. Not only did he take over the oil refineries, he ended up taking over the diggers. He ended up taking over the railroads.
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@brycemlipscombHe wanted to touch every piece of the oil business. That was his goal. And we talked about this with Henry Ford. Henry Ford wanted to touch every facet of the automobile industry, everything that went into his Ford. He wanted to have been a Ford product. He got that idea from Rockefeller, and Rockefeller really was the driving force behind this.
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@brycemlipscombYes, there were a lot of people, and I'm not going to lie about this. There were a lot of individuals who were proud and wanted to own their business and took pride in their business. And Rockefeller did end up destroying their business just because he undersold them.
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@brycemlipscombWe talked about JP Morgan coming in and basically bailing us out of these financial crises. We talked about JP Morgan coming in and basically bailing us out of these financial crises.
@brycemlipscombMorgan, like I said, didn't have the money to be able to put millions of dollars and help ease the financial burden. He reached out to people like John D. Rockefeller who actually used their money to help bail out the United States. And so every time that the United States during this time in the 1800s needed a bailout, you were using Rockefeller money to bail you out.
@brycemlipscombAgain, this comes down to There is a good argument to be made that without Rockefeller, without Morgan, without these individuals who, yes, did some questionable things, the United States wouldn't exist in the way that it does now. The United States would not be the dominant power of the world. These men saw something in what they were doing and saw a value of the products that they were
@brycemlipscombProducing and saw that this was going to make the United States a juggernaut in the world. And because of that, they built, you know, Rockefeller built a fortune and this is still debated. So, and I want to make this clear. I can find people who say that when Rockefeller died in 1930, I believe it was when he passed away, he was worth $690 billion in that day.
@brycemlipscombThen I can find other people that will say, no, it was $690 billion in today's money. There's a huge debate whether or not, you know, how much money he actually had when he died. But I can tell you that every single descendant of his right now are billionaires. And the Rockefeller Foundation, which is one of the most evil foundations in the world, has an unlimited amount of money because that's where Rockefeller put the bulk of his money.
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@brycemlipscombUh, he did not trust, um, food that, uh, had, uh, pesticides in it or any kind of toxics or anything.
Speaker 1Trust to the Abraham Flexner, who is none of the above either, right? Cream up with the Flexner Report? Sure. Do you recall what that was about? I don't. Abraham Flexner is the guy that Rockefeller funded to create the Flexner Report to destroy traditional medicine and then use the byproduct of oil refining because, as you mentioned earlier,
Speaker 1So, Abraham Flexner was not by John D. Rockefeller. That was by John D. Rockefeller Jr. in 1910. Rockefeller had stepped away from his businesses and stepped away from the Rockefeller Fund. True, John D. Rockefeller Jr. got his money from Rockefeller, but Rockefeller didn't start these things, true.
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@brycemlipscombSo we can go out and we can say, yeah, you know, John D. Rockefeller's money backed Flexner. It did. But that was not the idea behind the Rockefeller Foundation when it was started. It became bastardized over a long period of time. And this notion that it started with John D. Rockefeller is absolutely asinine because it didn't.
@brycemlipscombIt started with his son. And if we're going to hold anybody to To that, we should be holding John D. Rockefeller Jr. and Nelson Rockefeller and David Rockefeller for the sins of the Rockefeller Foundation, not John D. Rockefeller. His idea behind the Rockefeller Foundation was something that was going to be helpful to people, that was going to help build holistic medicines, help create...
@brycemlipscombMore organic farming, and it did in its earlier years. It was then transitioned, when it was taken over by his son and one of his son's friends, into something that was like what you said, backed by Flexner, backed by a lot of these crypto-Jews and individuals who would end up using the Rockefeller Foundation to ultimately harm the people of the United States.
@brycemlipscombI don't believe that the sins of the son go to the sins of the father. I think that that's just ridiculous.
Speaker 1Okay. Well, first, he was no hero even in the 1780s and 90s. He's a 33rd-degree Freemason backed by the Rothschilds. That's how he was able to accumulate the funds to be able to create his monopoly with Standard Oil in the first place. They got broken up because obviously it was in violation of the Sherman Act. The antitrust laws were in place.
Speaker 1So then you switch to his next objective. You want to say, okay, he got older. Okay, so first of all, you're wrong.
@brycemlipscombHe was not a Mason. He was never a Mason. No, he was not. There was never any information. JP Morgan was not a Mason. No, there's no information. He was not. His son was a Mason. Again, you continue to mix up the son and the father. And my suggestion, TruthTeller, is maybe do a little bit more research on the actual individual because I'm telling you...
@brycemlipscombOkay. Right now, you can look it up. Right now, was Rockefeller, John D. Rockefeller, a Mason? And there are no historical or archival records that say that he was a Mason or that he was a third degree. However, his son was.
Speaker 1That's great. So you want to put it all on the son, who just bastardized what you think was something meant to be altruistic and good, when in fact, Abraham Flexner was hired to show how synthetic drugs, that's the foundation, which would also later go on to... Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
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@brycemlipscombI think that competition ultimately ends up killing...
Speaker 1But the type of... Hold on a sec. But the type of monopoly you're advocating for is commoditizing what's under the soil. They didn't create anything. All they're doing is digging up the oil that's already there and owning what's there and then charging you in return for it. They haven't added any value. How do you get the oil, Truth?
Speaker 1How do you get the oil? Do you just dig? You just dig it?
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Speaker 1With corporations not having any checks and balances in place, and that's why America is in the position. You still think America is a superpower. They've lost every war since World War II. I'm sorry, but they're not a superpower. Can anyone even hear me right now?
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, I don't know. Everyone is completely silent. That's fine. I'll finish. America is not a superpower. They lost the war in Iran. You've been following the Russia-Ukraine conflict. You know that Russia would... I completely agree with that. I completely agree with that.
Speaker 1Who hosted, and I saw your post by the way, which is a complete lie. He hosted the Jekyll Island meeting. He never did. He was not at Jekyll Island. He was not. He was not. Now you're rewriting history. You're rewriting history, Truth. Are you telling me that the Olympic ship which they claim is the Titanic wasn't his either?
Speaker 1He didn't bail at the last minute either? No, he did. He killed John after Guggenheim. He did not. He murdered the three opponents of the Federal Reserve. He's responsible for that. He has blood on his hands. You think he's some kind of hero. He's not. He laid the foundation for why a Federal Reserve would be needed because the market crashes were caused by him and his cohorts and he was backed by the Rothschilds, so was his father.
Speaker 1His father was a member of the Rothschild table to be able to be a banker in the first place. Do you think his father just randomly made it?
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Speaker 1So why don't we try... Are you telling me that he wasn't aware of how our central bank runs? Speakers, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@joann_marieI love that pushback on the back and forth, but let's just try to keep it simple.
Speaker 1To deny, first of all, 33rd Degree Masons, you know how private they are. They don't release all their intel, but John Rockefeller and JP Morgan were both 33rd Degree Masons. And why do you think JP Morgan only died with 15% ownership of his bank? Because the Rothschilds owned most of his bank. He hated them, sure, but they owned him.
Speaker 1It doesn't even matter, does it?
@brycemlipscombThe Rockefeller, first of all, the Rothschilds owned no part of the JP Morgan.
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Speaker 1They caused the crashes. They don't help anybody but themselves and they risk themselves. And he only died with $100 million. Poor guy back in like 1913. Are you fucking kidding me? He made his money off usury. He was a usurious banker. Yeah, of course he's in favor of the corporation. Sure, show us how you can make a profit.
Speaker 1He was preselected. They don't just decide like you think Elon Musk wasn't preselected, that he was some kind of fucking genius and made it with Tesla and SpaceX. He was given the technology. He was knocked off anyway. He didn't even invent PayPal. Come on, man. I mean, you're better than this. You go to Russia and you see how Putin operates.
Speaker 1He kicked out the Rothschilds. He kicked out Soros. He kicked out all the freaking banksters. He nationalized the banks. He nationalized all the companies. He doesn't tolerate monopolies. And you do? Go learn about how Russia was able to overcome all of these oligarchs. Because right now, America is run by oligarchs just like it was in the 1900s.
Speaker 1And he didn't just pick one president. What happened to John McKinley? It's funny you left that out. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 1Yes, Woodrow Wilson. No, it wasn't Woodrow Wilson. Well, no, Taft. Excuse me, Taft. William Howard Taft. And then Woodrow Wilson. And why didn't William Howard Taft win election? Because he wasn't hard enough on the Russians. He refused to abrogate the commercial treaty, even though he gave the Jews whatever they wanted.
Speaker 1So then they added Theodore Roosevelt for the Woodrow Wilson election, who they were blackmailing, and JP Morgan knew that. Because then they would be able to pass things like the Income Tax Act that happened in 1930 while Morgan was still alive. And yeah, he did die before the Federal Reserve Act was passed, but then it was too fucking late anyway.
Speaker 1All the seats had been planted. They already had their guy in power. And you know how they even passed that in December 24, 25? More than a third of Congress wasn't even there because they were on vacation. So yeah, they got their two-thirds vote because most of Congress wasn't even present and they got passed. Do you think JP Morgan was responsible for that?
Speaker 1He planted all the seats. He was there on Jekyll Island. He killed the three most important Americans. He was not there on Jekyll Island. He was responsible for killing Strauss, Astor, and that third opponent of the Federal Reserve. And it wasn't even the Titanic that was there. It was the Olympic ship that was damaged.
Speaker 1He bailed on that last minute. You're mistaken when he wasn't present. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 1He's no fucking hero. He caused those crashes to justify why there's a need for central banking. And by the way, do you think the US was free and clear in the 1870s? It was structured as a corporation in 1872 by Ulysses S. Grant. Why don't you go learn that? It's already been, it was a corporation the whole time. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Speaker 1You were right about the stuff you said about Henry Ford. You have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to JP Morgan, Junius Morgan, John Lewis Morgan, his father, or John Rockefeller and his kid. They were all masons. They were responsible for why America is the way it is today. Owned by a bunch of corporations.
Speaker 1It is a corporation itself. And you mean anybody with a social security number assumes the debt. That's how America is structured. We're debt slaves to these people. And the people you're defending right now are responsible for that.
@brycemlipscombI just wanted to add, there's no question that... They helped create the atmosphere for the 1907 panic that led to the Federal Reserve's inception. Apparently, Grok says JP Morgan wasn't on Jekyll Island. Morgan is a longtime member of the private Jekyll Island Club. Reliable accounts state that most certainly arranged for the group to use the club's facilities.
@brycemlipscombHis partner, Henry Davidson, attended as the representative. Everyone knows JP Morgan was in cahoots with the Warburg. And again, yeah, like Truth was saying, these guys caused the depressions to make the need for a central bank in the Federal Reserve and to say, oh, these are all conspiracy theories is just such a gaslight.
@brycemlipscombName one conspiracy theory that Truth Teller said.
Speaker 1By the way, the first Great Depression happened in 1819 after the advent of the second chartered bank because that's just what these people do. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 1And then they crash you when they sell it all. It's exactly what they did with the Great Depression in 1929 as well. In what, February, March of 1929? Like, okay, we made a ton of money, it's time to crash.
@brycemlipscombOnce again, Truth-teller, you are like, maybe 25% right, and then the rest is all just literally conspiracy theories. Like, your facts are not right. They had nothing to do.
Speaker 3How about letting me, how about letting me, how about letting me fucking speak?
Speaker 1Can you tell me who is the co-author of not just the Constitution but the first chartered bank in America?
Speaker 1No. It was Alexander Hamilton, a Jew. Okay, he pushed for that because for 13 years between 1776 and 1789, America had, first of all, no Constitution, no bank, and there was 13 independent colonies. That's how America was originally structured. It was him that was pushing for federalization. And he got his way. Okay, passed in Philadelphia, as you know.
Speaker 1Then in 1791, the first 20-year chartered bank, which fucking failed miserably, so they ended it. But then what happens in 1812 after it fails? They start a freaking war. It was the British that did that. Because this Bank of London that owns all the bankers in America, by the way, is registered as a corporation where?
Speaker 1City of London. It's been owned since 1872 by City of London bankers. Who runs City of London? The Rothschilds, Kuhn & Loeb, Jacob Schiff, Paul, Max, Felix Warburg. Do you want me to go down the whole freaking list? I can. So that should give you an idea who owns America. Therefore, they own JP Morgan. They own the debt.
Speaker 1And they can call it in whenever they want and crash it whenever they want. But instead, they're going to go take over more assets and tokenize the debt so they can just kick the can down the road and never pay back the debt. By the time JP Morgan had created JP Morgan & Company, there was no bank that was stronger than his bank.
Speaker 1That was Andrew Jackson in 1836.
@brycemlipscombNo other president has paid down the debt. Jackson, you're absolutely right about it. Yes, that is 100% true. Yes, Alexander Hamilton was a Jew and that he wasn't, but we all know that he was. There's evidence and a bunch of facts from his life in the Caribbean to show that his family was a Jewish family. I'm not arguing those points.
Speaker 1What I am saying- Do you argue in favor of a Federal Reserve centralized bank? I do not argue. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1To go and invade other countries and steal their fucking gold. Why don't you have me fucking bald, bro? That's exactly what happened in 1917 when the Indians wanted to steal our gold. You are a fucking fraud and pseudo-intellectual. You can't even answer basic questions and you're in favor of a Jewish-backed currency system.
Speaker 1Do you not realize what you're saying right now? It's real simple fucking math and economics. I'm short on gold. I need to print more currency and I can't even do any more of it with a fractional reserve system, so now I have to go steal more fucking gold. So that's why I go and invade other countries. And hey, when I go and invade other countries and start wars, what does that entail?
Speaker 1Racking up fucking debt. And that's why America's $40 trillion in debt, genius. That's why America started racking up debt.
Speaker 3Our money is backed by absolutely nothing.
Speaker 1Yes, because it should be backed by a labor-backed system like it was in National Socialist Germany. Then there's checks and balances in place. And what is then your incentive and motivation? For everybody to be employed. Go learn about the NSDAP economic system. That's the only one that makes sense, and that's what turned Germany to an economic superpower more powerful than America was back then.
Speaker 1Better technology, a higher moral society, zero unemployment, zero inflation. America's never been there before, has it?
@brycemlipscombSo truth, just so you know, it was Jack Morgan who invested in Germany. If it wasn't for Jack Morgan, Hitler wouldn't have been able to do the things that he did because he got the money literally from the Morgan company.
Speaker 1Listen, who gives a fuck? That doesn't mean he had any influence and power over it. Don't try to give the credit to NSDAP to Jack Morgan. He had nothing to do with it. Without that money, Hitler wouldn't have been able to do what he did. You can say whatever you want.
@brycemlipscombWithout the Morgan money, without that Morgan money, the National Socialist Communist... Yes, they did. They did not. The German economy was fully in debt during the Weimar Republic.
Speaker 3Tell me what happened during the Weimar Republic.
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Ian MalcolmAnd so perhaps we could do a back and forth that way. And that might just be a little bit easier for everybody to follow along. And again, I just want to make sure we're respecting both Bryce for coming in here to share this topic. But also, I mean, nobody knows some of these topics better than Truth Tower. So to see the two of them go back and forth.
Ian MalcolmAnd as a last little thing, I want everybody to note that both of them have conceded one another's points on a number of occasions from time to time, acknowledging, look, you know this thing I don't know. Speakers, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@brycemlipscombAnd by doing that, was able to not only boost the standard of living and the wages of Russia, but turn Russia into the superpower that it is today. I concede that completely. What I'm saying, dear Truther, and I'm sorry that I said some nasty things to you. You're a great guy. You know a lot of stuff. Nothing personal.
@brycemlipscombAnd there might be some things that I know better than you. What I'm saying is that the monopolies of the 1800s and the early 1900s did not run like monopolies today. Monopolies... You and I like Henry Ford, right? We can agree on Henry Ford?
Speaker 4Yes.
@brycemlipscombOkay. Henry Ford owned every facet of building his car. Do you agree with that? He bought steel companies, he bought coal companies. He did all of those things, did he not?
Speaker 1He adopted the technology from German engineers, but sure, the assembly lines, the production.
@brycemlipscombYes, well, I mean, he kind of also stole the assembly line.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was his game changer. He ended up not having shareholders in the end. And making demodels affordable.
@brycemlipscombBut remember, he ended up, yes, but remember, he ended up tricking his shareholders and ended up pretty much buying them out and running the company completely on his own. And Morgan and Rockefeller basically were doing the exact same thing. During the Great Depression and during these financial crises, the people that worked for Rockefeller, the people that worked for Morgan, these people didn't suffer the way that the average American suffered.
@brycemlipscombThe person that was working in the oil refineries or in the oil fields under Standard Oil had a high standard of living. They had an ability to... What I'm trying to tell you is that JP Morgan did not work with the Jews. Jack Morgan did, didn't like doing it, but ended
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Speaker 1The club of bankers you're talking about and somebody as prominent as JP Morgan, they're all in the same club. And his father was a member of the Rothschild table in the UK. And as you pointed out in your presentation, you were right in pointing out that it was his father who did have his issues with him initially, but he would not have become a banker without his father's investment into his bank and carrying the family name.
Speaker 1Yes. That part's all correct. Again, his father was a member of the Rothschild table and got his initial investments from.
@brycemlipscombYes, Junius was. I don't disagree about Junius, but you were saying JP Morgan was. And what I was trying to tell you was, no, he was not. He didn't do business with the Rothschilds.
Speaker 1JP Morgan had to come to the UK to pledge allegiance to the Rothschilds to be able to then get his permit to be able to become a banker.
@brycemlipscombJP Morgan was already in the UK. He was already there. He was back and forth. Junius was set up in London. No, he wasn't. He was in London up until about the 1860s. JP Morgan had to go back and forth in the UK.
Speaker 1That's the part I'm trying to point out to you. Not Junius.
@brycemlipscombSure. But what I'm trying to tell you is that JP Morgan was in the United States almost, I would say, 80% of the time. He didn't have to go back to the London bankership because what he ended up doing was creating Manhattan. And Wall Street, the Wall Street banking section as the financial capital of the world. That's what ended up happening under JP Morgan.
@brycemlipscombWe took the London banking and basically the epicenter of the financial world was in London. And because of JP Morgan, it was moved to New York. And New York became the epicenter of the banking.
Speaker 1You can mention the New York Stock Exchange, but no, City of London. Which is an autonomous region in, you know, capital city London of the UK. But all the major corporations still remain registered there, including the U.S. Country, yes, is a corporation registered there. And the Federal Reserve as well. Lloyd's of London.
Speaker 1Every single major bank and insurance company is registered in the City of London to this day. That is the epicenter of finance. D.C. is the epicenter of politics, just like the Vatican's epicenter of religion. Okay, the three I's. So no, it's not New York. New York may have a more prominent stock exchange.
@brycemlipscombI'm telling you, if you look it up, if you actually look it up, it is now the financial center of the world. New York is considered the financial center of the world, just like Germany is now the financial capital of Europe. It used to be England. It is now Germany.
Speaker 1You're talking about market cap? They have taken over that place. You're talking about market cap? What I'm talking about is the financial... Hold on. Trust, corporations, all the rest. Where are they all registered? All the major ones.
Speaker 3All the major ones? In America? No.
Speaker 1All the major central banks are registered in the City of London. That's a fact.
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@brycemlipscombOkay, you're talking about central banks. We're talking, I'm talking, I'm not talking about a central bank. I'm talking about Morgan's Bank. And Morgan's Bank was registered in New York.
Speaker 1Morgan's Bank was used- I don't care about the central banks. It was used as an arm of the Rothschild for presence in New York. It was not.
@brycemlipscombIt was not. It was not funded by the Rothschilds. That is absolutely false. And you could literally look it up. In fact, I ask you to read the book. The House of Morgan by Ron Chernow. Probably one of the best historians in America.
Speaker 1The family is worth a little over 1.5 trillion. It's more than that. Some say over 500 trillion, but that aside, just one account that Rothschild's managed.
Speaker 1Are you going to deny that in 1912 the Olympic ship wasn't used to kill John Astor, Guggenheim, and Strauss?
Speaker 3Yes. I'm going to say that that is a conspiracy theory. When the Titanic sank...
Speaker 3It ended up costing JP Morgan a shit ton of money for that star line. It didn't cost him anything. He was paid back with insurance money. He ended up getting sued. He got sued.
Speaker 1He got blamed for it. He got dragged through the mud. So what he did was pull a 9-11. So as we know, the Twin Towers had an asbestos problem. It would have cost more money for Larry Silverstein to be able to clean out the asbestos problem. So he's like, screw this. Let's just knock him down.
Speaker 3Can we stay in the time period? Truth, you're going all over the place, buddy. You're not, though. You're not. What you're doing is just going on a tangent. Because he knew that ship was going to get destroyed.
Speaker 1He was in.
@brycemlipscombHe was nowhere near England at the time. He was in on it. He was supposed to be on the ship, and he failed at the last minute.
Speaker 1Every prominent American was on that ship.
@joann_marieGuys, should we go back to the two-minute thing?
Speaker 1Well, he said you want to go back and forth. 1912, Olympic ship. Now, it wasn't Titanic. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 3His partner was there.
Speaker 1He didn't have a partner at this time. He didn't have a partner at this time. There's disagreement on whether he was actually present or not. But he was absolutely, his partner was absolutely there. And it's claimed that he also owned that complex where they all were present. He was absolutely involved. And he was in favor.
Speaker 3That is actually... You admitted that he was in favor of a central bank.
@brycemlipscombThat is actually true. He did own property on Jekyll Island. And Jekyll Island... You don't think he'd know about a major meeting with Nelson Aldridge and John Wohlberg? Hold on, Truth. Can I just say what I'm trying to say, man? Without you just... Let me make my point. Let's have a conversation. I talk, you talk. I talk, you talk.
@brycemlipscombI know you're excited. So am I. Okay? Jekyll Island was a place where a lot of rich individuals vacationed. Absolutely JP Morgan had a house there. Almost every major millionaire and billionaire at that time did. It was the chic place to be, dude. Like, of course, these rich...
@brycemlipscombThe meeting that supposedly happened in Jekyll Island at this clubhouse, at a country club, did not involve JP Morgan. It did not involve Jack Morgan. The Morgans were not present at that meeting. And there are evidence from that. The people that were at that meeting... No, this comes from the people that were at that meeting that said that they weren't there.
@brycemlipscombAnd the fact that JP Morgan was dying in Europe at the time that this...
Speaker 1They never acknowledged this meeting was done in secret. You're aware of that, right? How could JP Morgan be... They all came in there discreetly to avoid attention. Why did they do the meeting all the way... It was immediately... The media was... It wasn't at that place where they did it at. It made the papers, dude. It made the papers.
Speaker 1It was a private exclusive club nobody had access to.
Speaker 3It made the papers at that time that people had met.
Speaker 1Why didn't they do the meeting out in the open if they had nothing to hide?
Speaker 3I don't disagree with you, man.
Speaker 1I'm not saying that there was a meeting. He was in Europe dying. We have evidence. We have legitimate evidence that he's in Rome right now, dying.
Speaker 2He's literally fucking dying and in Italy at the time.
Speaker 3I'm sorry, but we know for a fact that he wasn't at that.
@brycemlipscombThe Olympic ship being, that is a conspiracy theory that somehow the Olympic ship was from the Titanic.
Speaker 1You can put the evidence out there, but no historian. Do you still believe an iceberg took it down?
Speaker 3The Titanic?
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Speaker 1He wasn't broke, by the way. You make it sound like $100 million wasn't much. He was 100% motivated by money. He was pro-usury, pro-federal reserve, pro-fractional reserve banking. He was just like all the other bankers.
@brycemlipscombHe was not pro-usury because his loans did not have the interest rate that Rothschild- He was still lending with interest, wasn't he?
Speaker 1That's usury, isn't it? Of course. That's how banks make their money. He enriched himself off of usury. Thank you.
@123youknowitsmeYeah, I kind of agree to that. If you guys don't mind if I ask a question.
Speaker 5If I may jump in, my hand was up. And I have something really quick. I'm not going to get into banking, but I'm going to get into the medicine, conventional medicine aspect of it. He himself preferred homeopathy for himself, but because it wasn't financially profitable in a sense of, you know, sort of like a business decision.
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Speaker 5He was one of his main advisors and gradually he persuaded him to basically turn the petrochemicals into a sort of a patented, financially feasible business that replaced the homeopathy and herbal medicine. And then his foundation and his money basically founded The Flexner Report recommendation to bring the new standards of practicing medicine and all the universities.
Speaker 5And that caused a lot of homeopathic schools closing down, naturopathic schools closing down. Even, you know, some of the herbal, you know, the practitioners were jailed. Like it really, it really changed how Congressional Medicine. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 5And Devil Bill, so I'm sure Rockefeller.
@brycemlipscombYes, he sold a potion that's apparently cured cancer. That's what his father was known for.
Speaker 5Well, too bad that that cure is probably not around anymore. But what I'm trying to say is that he wasn't from a poor family, and he probably learned some of his business skills and salesmanship skills from his father.
@brycemlipscombSo, I'm going to push back on that because that is not true. Rockefeller's father did not... Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the time of his death, John D. Rockefeller was the only person who could provide that much of a living for his family. And John D. Rockefeller did often have to go on the kindness of his family, his mother's family.
@brycemlipscombBut he grew up reusing shoes, fixing the holes that are in them, not getting new clothing. The idea that he was well-off, that's not true.
Speaker 5I didn't say they were well-off. I said modest and not groomed.
@brycemlipscombIt wasn't even modest. It wasn't even modest. It was dismal. In fact, John D. Rockefeller wrote an autobiography. Do you have any proof or evidence? Yes, Rockefeller wrote an autobiography about his time and his children. We also know where he lived growing up.
Speaker 1Elon Musk said he came from a broke family too and had to get loans for his university.
@brycemlipscombNo, see, Elon Musk came from a diamond mine, emerald mine, excuse me.
Speaker 1His father owned an emerald mine.
@brycemlipscombBut Rockefeller's father had two families and basically left John D. Rockefeller's. He did not. He left one of his families and focused on the other. And left Rockefeller to kind of be the father and having to work odd jobs just so that he could help keep the family afloat. Did Rockefeller's father come back with money sometimes?
@brycemlipscombAbsolutely he did. He ended up buying them a home and then made them pay rent to him. His childhood was dismal. And there's, you know, like... Anyways, go ahead. I'm sorry I interrupted you.
Speaker 5No, I mean, I said what I had to say. You're saying he grew up poor, and I'm saying, no, there is a difference between sort of medium to kind of sometimes struggling to poor and impoverished, right? So we've got to be accurate.
Speaker 1I have his history right here. I mean, the family predecessors were plantation owners. They certainly weren't poor then, were they? So the American family descended from Johann Peter Rockefeller, who died in 1763, migrated from Rhineland. They were German, of course, originally. The U.S. became a plantation owner and landholder in Somerville, Amwell, New Jersey.
Speaker 1One of the first members of Rockefeller was businessman William A. Rockefeller, who was born to Protestant Granger family, etc. He didn't come from a poor family. Okay?
@brycemlipscombJust because One of the Rockefellers that came over here and was a plantation owner doesn't mean that the family is entirely rich.
Speaker 1That doesn't mean that the family was entirely... You make it sound like they were dirt poor from abject poverty. Once again. From Rockefeller, John D. Yes, he was. Bill was disowned by the Rockefeller family. This is absurd now. You're making shit up now. Come on, man.
@brycemlipscombThey were found, the Rockefeller family came from a person that had money and they had a decent amount.
Speaker 1I'm not going to say that.
@brycemlipscombCan I literally make my point and just, are you going to interrupt every single time? I might.
@joann_marieNo, let's keep it respectful. We're literally on the same team and we're just like learning from each other.
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@brycemlipscombThe wealth of the Rockefeller family are the direct descendants of John D. Rockefeller, who made the money from Standard Oil. He actually made more of his money when the trust was busted up. That's how he actually made his billions, was when they broke his trust up, he was able to still... Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With $1,000,000,000,000,000
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Speaker 1So maybe I believe he saved up his money about one gas station. But to own Imperial Oil?
@brycemlipscombGet the fuck out of here. But Rockefeller only owned that one refinery at the time. Where did he get the oil? Hold on. He was able to acquire in the 1870s.
Speaker 1All of his money came from him. He was somehow magically able to acquire every major oil and gas company in the US and you think he wasn't backed by real money like the Rothschilds? You really believe that? He had his own money that he put into it. He was probably growing in the plantation they owned right?
@brycemlipscombBut here's the problem, like, you see, everything, truth, has to be, like, people can't be, you know, wealthy and build these.
Speaker 1There's no such thing as a rags-to-riches tale when you become the most powerful guy in America. That doesn't happen magically on its own. You're pushing fairy tales right now. Elon Musk didn't make it as a fairy tale rags-to-riches story either. You have to find a Jew behind everything. Because there is a Jew behind everything.
Speaker 1I mean... That doesn't necessarily mean behind everything, man. He's starting to figure it out. Yes, there's a Jew behind every major billionaire out there. That's correct. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With www.StreetMedia.com
Speaker 1Okay, in 1815 Rothschild became the most powerful banker in the world when he took over the Bank of England, which was the superpower back then. They lent money to the Vatican. They were more powerful than the Vatican. You think JP Morgan and Rockefeller made it without Rothschild money? They called the shots they preselected the masons they liked.
Speaker 1Just because you can't find documentation or they did not- Give me the documentation. Are you kidding me? Give me the physical proof. Give me the physical proof.
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Speaker 1Why? Why were they all killed? They were all prominent opponents of the Federal Reserve, which JP Morgan was for, and he worked alongside the Rothschilds. This is absurd to me.
@brycemlipscombHold on, hold on.
Speaker 1And you still think America is a superpower, the most powerful country in the world? The Olympia, is that considered by historians?
Speaker 3Guys, let's try not to speak about each other.
@brycemlipscombSo, Truth, let me ask you a question. In modern history, modern historians, Is the Olympia considered a conspiracy theory to historians? Or is it considered actual fact?
Speaker 1The historical books you're reading are Robert Max McGraw-Hill education textbooks.
@brycemlipscombThat's right, because everything that I read is wrong, but everything that you read is right.
Speaker 1Modern day historians get to be published? Yes, either go through Pergamon Press. So that's where Maxwell started. Or they end up in his publishing house that he owned, that Apollo Global Management owned, now another Israeli owns, who control what gets to be historically documented. And yes, history is written from the perspective of the victors.
Speaker 1So of course the Jews want to shield themselves from all of their successes that they were able to achieve illicitly. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 1So cool, at least you got that part right.
@brycemlipscombYeah, I mean, listen, so first of all, as a historian, we can say that the claim for 6 million doesn't make sense because we have actually found people that were on that list that are still alive today. There is video evidence of that, that we have gone and showed them their name because we knew that this was the person, and he goes, no, I'm still alive.
@brycemlipscombSo the number... You're absolutely right. We can't trust anything that was presented at Nuremberg.
Speaker 1What does every major historian say about the Holocaust? Do they say what you and I just said? Or do they claim it's $6 million? No, they don't. They don't.
@brycemlipscombJust so you know, they don't. So it goes anywhere from... $6 million to $11 million or whatever it is. So we don't say what you and I say.
Speaker 3No, it goes from $270... Can I just answer your question? Does that mean we're wrong?
Speaker 3Can I answer your question, please?
Speaker 1Just admit that your claim is a fallacy. You won't let me talk. JoAnn, really? You're trying to say that your view is correct just because so many historians agree with you and call mine a conspiracy theory. I'm able to conspiracy theory store you for challenging the Holocaust numbers. Period.
@joann_marieOkay. We're on the same side. Let's try to learn from each other and bounce ideas and stuff like that. Seriously, this isn't... Come on.
@joann_marieGo for it, Bryce.
@brycemlipscombSo just so you know, Truther, the historians disagree, and that's something that we actually know. The numbers that I see come anywhere from 270 people to 6 million. I've never heard 11 million. And I've never seen any research by anybody that said 11 million. What I see from historians are anywhere from 270,000 to 6 million, and people cannot agree on it.
@brycemlipscombNow, what's said in the media, because the media is run by Jews, is 6 million or more. They can afford to pay historians.
Speaker 1Can I finish?
@brycemlipscombDude, seriously, please, can I finish? Just let me finish my point, and maybe you'll like what I'm saying. But I can't have a conversation with you. I'm just going to stop if you're just going to keep interrupting me every single time. It's just like it's not how people communicate in a society, dude.
@brycemlipscombSo what I'm saying is that the media that we have, we know, and historically we know this, has been run by Jews. And so has the entertainment industry. And when you control the means of communication, you get to control the narrative. And it took a while. I'm not saying that like it happened overnight, like that they had it since day one.
@brycemlipscombNo, it was this progression till we get to about the 1960s, like 1950s, 1960s, where we start to see Jewish dominance in almost every single facet of American life and corporations, banking, whatever it is, even sports teams.
@brycemlipscombWe have evidence of that. They're historical fact. And people cannot deny that. The ones that do deny it, well, they're listening to Fox News or MSNBC who are paying somebody to give them false numbers. And we know that. So what I'm saying is that there are historians out there, dude, who you would say are conspiracy theorists that are believed and taken to heart.
@brycemlipscombAnd what I'm telling you is even the ones that go for what you would consider this a conspiracy, though it's not, saying that the Jews run everything now because they do, will tell you that there's just no basis of reality in the Olympia story. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With www.StreetMediaTV.com
@brycemlipscombAnd being called racist and bad people because we noticed something going on in this world. And we're just trying to point it out.
@brycemlipscombYou and I are the same person. And I don't want to fight you anymore, Truth. You're a good guy. But I'm just trying to say be open-minded to maybe some of the facts. Maybe some of the facts you have aren't necessarily 100% spot on. And I will admit the same. Real quick, were there people who died on the Titanic that were opposed to the Federal Reserve?
@brycemlipscombSo, I mean, I don't know. We do know that the term conspiracy theorist is coined by the government for people who don't trust their government. So, I mean, I don't know. When you say it's been dissected, I mean, just in the sense that, you know, there's a few people that died that were opposed to the Federal Reserve. It's, I don't know, not necessarily smoking.
@brycemlipscombThere was, so... So the Guggenheim one is one of those ones that you can just rip off the band-aid. He did not go against the Federal Reserve. There is no actual evidence that he ever came out against it. And the Aster also did not. I am blanking for some reason on the person that did go down who was a vehemently against.
Speaker 1Is Guggenheim, Aster, and Strauss.
@brycemlipscombStrauss, thank you. Strauss was vehemently against the Federal Reserve. He, yes, you're 100% right that he wrote op-eds and put things in the media and all kinds of things. So is it a stretch to say that something could have happened? Man, I would love to say that there is, that there was, but the people that have been down there and have looked at it, like, why would they lie about not seeing any explosion holes?
@brycemlipscombAnd the hole where all the water was taken up. They saw an explosion in the middle where, you know, the machine room or the coal room or whatever it was.
Speaker 1Okay, so the claim is this, and I put a full thread. The evidence is all there. Some claim a fire had been burning in the coal bunker before the Titanic even set sail. If true, the ship was already doomed before it hit the iceberg. And I'll put that particular post up in the nest. Of course, X and the, you already know, the Community Notes guys did their best to shadowban this thread.
Speaker 1Read for yourself. All the evidence and videos are there for why this was in fact the Olympic ship and not the Titanic, which is already damaged, and JP Morgan did end up making a bunch of money off the insurance claim afterwards.
@brycemlipscombAnd just real quick, it's very suspicious JP Morgan canceled his trip last minute. I mean, come on, he can't make that stuff up. He had a first-class ticket, too. First of all, he actually didn't. That's a myth. He was never going to be on the Titanic. Croc said he did.
@brycemlipscombIf you read the book, The House of Morgan, Ron Chernow goes through it and proves that JP Morgan was in New York at the time it took off. He didn't cancel on them. He had a suite on the Titanic. Yes, he did. And that was going to be a ship that he was going to use for leisure. Yes, absolutely. But he was not, he didn't have a ticket.
@brycemlipscombAnd to say that he was first class, absolutely not. He was his own class. He had his own beautiful little cabin that was especially made for just him.
Speaker 1By the way, it says no thorough investigation was ever done. No one was held responsible. This whole iceberg notion is made up bullshit. U.S. government and British authorities just closed the case because it was all pre-planned.
@brycemlipscombBut that's the person that you're saying that. And like the people that are writing where you're getting your information from according to the internet are not credible individuals. And I'm not saying that's a bad, that is true or it's not. And you can go on and we can say that, oh, Jews are just shadow banning them too.
@brycemlipscombBut it gets a little, doesn't it get a little crazy when we start seeing in everything now,
@thelevantinemanHow are they able to hide 9-11 truth from you guys and you're still alive when it happened? Yes, they're very good at it. That's why. So tread carefully.
@brycemlipscombWere any of you in New York during 9-11?
@thelevantinemanI'm living in my country.
@brycemlipscombOkay. Why do you ask? Well, because my grandmother lived in New York at the time. And she worked for the people who built the Twin Towers, Tishman Construction.
@thelevantinemanWas Israel behind the 9-11? Probably. Probably? So what does that prove?
Speaker 6Your grandmother was working there? I even have the evidence, dude.
@brycemlipscombWhat's wrong with you? I'm just asking. My thing was, is like, did you have anybody... That was actually like that you knew in New York because like when I talked to my grandmother and I asked her because she wasn't too far from it. Did you see a plane? And she couldn't confirm anything. And I was just wondering if anybody out there had somebody in New York living at the time that said that they didn't see a plane.
@brycemlipscombBecause I know a ton of people who have said that. And I find it funny that they were never interviewed or taken seriously. I don't find it funny. I find it... So all you do is study history, but when it comes to something that happened like 25 years ago, the only thing that you have is one witness account that is unreliable at best, and you're saying everyone else is bullshitting because you have one witness that's saying something else?
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Speaker 6So now you know. Now you can get back to the discussion.
Speaker 3That's not what I said.
Speaker 6By the way, Bryce, there is something. There is a difference between how you see history and how truth sees it. For you, as I get from everything that you were saying, it's 99% what was said by other historians, and you evaluate it based on the person. But with truth, it is this 50% logic. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@joann_marieNo, we're listening to different perspectives. I want to learn more, and I like listening to different things. You know, like, I haven't heard the version that Bryce has, and I only know truth side, so I want to learn more about it. And I think it's okay to listen to different perspectives, bro. Like, I don't understand why is everyone like, oh, you're the enemy!
@joann_marieLike, no! Like, seriously, we're on the same side. We just have different opinions in things. And Bryce has read different
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Speaker 6With money to have partners in financial section out of a farm that you have a big family that just has a farm, it's not logical. Yes, you can say something like that happened, but when you look at it, the time here really matters. The age really matters. That's the analytical part you're leaving out. Everything you're discussing here is from the perspective of one historian or another, and you're evaluating based on the value of the historian.
Speaker 6This is what I'm just hearing.
@brycemlipscombHistorians who did research and were able to find the books of Standard Oil, were able to go through the finances of how John D. Rockefeller started. I get that you want to find a conspiracy in everything, and there is conspiracies. I'm not denying that.
Speaker 6No, I'm not even saying truth is right.
@brycemlipscombAt some point we have to take the tinfoil hat off or we're just not going to be taken seriously.
Speaker 6This is just insulting because you don't agree with something you're saying. It's crazy. It's not right. And by the way, I'm not even saying truth is right. I'm saying the perspective is different in that you're only looking at the books and he's looking at the mathematics behind everything too. I'm not saying you're right or he's right.
Speaker 6I'm just saying if you want to get closer, You have to look at it from the perspective of the other person. You're countering arguments from truth by what you read in books, but he's not giving you facts. He's giving you analysis. If you want to counter that, you have to come up with a piece of analysis. When it's about the books, then yes.
@brycemlipscombYou're absolutely right that he is not giving me facts. I do agree on that one.
Speaker 6I didn't mean he is not giving you facts at all. I mean, most of the discussion that I'm hearing right now about Titanic, for instance, I just get that many people opposing JP Morgan's idea died in that ship. So if I got that right, it means by an act of God or accident, many people that are opposing JP Morgan and standing in his way just got drowned in a...
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Speaker 7Let me get your opinion on talking about John D. Rockefeller. Do you think the American Cancer Society is a good thing today?
Speaker 7No. Yeah, I agree, bro. I mean, 100 years of trying to figure out a goal of curing cancer and we have nothing.
@brycemlipscombWell, we actually know with physical facts that they are funded by Coca-Cola and by The Rockefeller Foundation. And the Rockefeller Foundation, yes, absolutely. And the Ford Foundation as well, too, just so you guys know as well with that one. Yeah, you're right. It's a horrible thing, and it's corporations that abuse it.
Speaker 7Yeah, bro, that's insane, bro.
@joann_marieAll right, excellent question. Thank you, Street. All right, Elijah, go for it. Welcome.
@joann_marieElijah?
@123youknowitsmeHey, yeah, I'm here. I don't have much to say. Just the fact that I guess you guys are talking about history from history books, but because we aren't currently, you know, witnessing it, how could we know it to be the truth? I guess is my only question.
@joann_marieTruth or Bryce, do you guys want to answer this?
Speaker 7That's true, bro. That's deep as hell. I can answer that. I don't know anything in this simulation.
Speaker 6I can answer that, actually. We have this. But before I say that, I just wanted to ask one more question from Bryce. And that was, you mentioned that Rothschild had a charity and they didn't get anything from the venture that they had with Rockefeller's, I think it was. And the question that I had back then... You're mishearing what I said.
Speaker 6I don't remember him saying that either.
@joann_marieYou're mishearing what I said.
Speaker 4You're mishearing what I said.
Speaker 6I don't remember him saying that either. Okay, so correct me. You said Rothschild had a non-profit there, and they drive no money from it. I never said that. Okay, so again, I'm mistaken, but I'm sure on this one, but I'm going to look it up later on.
Speaker 1Rockefeller had a charity, a foundation. Oh, yeah. So Rockefeller's... He listed things like funding the Flexner Report and later the cancer...
Speaker 6So why did they do it? If they got nothing out of it, do you believe it was out of the kindness of their hearts and they wanted to help people? That is why they had that non-profit? Or do you have any evidence as to why they did it? You just know that they didn't drive any money from it and it was a charity, but why did they do it?
Speaker 6And the answer to the question that was asked for us...
@brycemlipscombWe have the answer. He did it for tax purposes. It wasn't to do anything to help to people. It was literally for him to be able to pay less taxes when he gave his children his fortune.
Speaker 6Okay, very good. So now back to the question. In our system, we have four foundations for verifying anything that is coming from history. The first thing... Is the thing itself, whatever is mentioned. And when we want to study that, we go to two things. First of all, who said it? And second, what is it? And then it goes to other experts who have studied this stuff and what they think.
Speaker 6And it's not like what they think is what you believe in. It's just one factor along the two that I already mentioned. And the last one, the most important one, is logic. You have to put it all together. So that is the way that I see it could work when you study history. And the most important part of it is you deciding what part of it is bullshit because we know, for a fact of this, we know from our history that people who wrote these books were influenced, were paid off, were people who were like not honest.
Speaker 6And there's a lot of bullshit in history books. Any one book that you choose from back then, You could almost guarantee that there are some parts that are not true. So you cannot say it's because in that book or it's because it's written by that person, that historian, then it is right. You have to always compare it to others and then have some critical thinking as to if that could be actually the case.
@brycemlipscombSo how fact becomes fact? So how fact becomes fact is very simple. You look for primary sources, people who were there during the time that whatever was going on in history.
Speaker 6With history, you have no facts, Bryce. With history, you have no facts. Yes, you do. According to the definition of the fact is verifiable truth. You cannot verify history.
@brycemlipscombSo you don't have facts.
Speaker 6You can. You can gather facts. No. You can gather data. You can gather data, not facts. In order for that to be facts, you have to be able to verify it. You can't. So history is all about analysis and understanding. It's never about facts. Facts come to play when you're dealing with physics and mathematics, for instance.
Speaker 6You can check it out. But with history... It's your understanding. That is why when you get to your level, by the way, Bryce, one more sentence. One more sentence. When you get to your level, I believe you're an expert, then your opinion becomes one of those opinions. And you could form your own. You don't have to always follow the pack.
Speaker 6Even if everyone says something, you could say it doesn't make sense. Like Holocaust. Many people said it. It was even illegal to question it, but then... I think Roger Garrity was amongst the first that questioned it in France and said it doesn't make sense. And that was the way to understand it. So sometimes even if everyone says it, if it doesn't make sense, then you don't accept it.
Speaker 6It doesn't matter how reliable your sources or how good your historian is. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4Okay.
@joann_marieBryce, you're cut off. Or is it me?
Speaker 6No, I just muted because I'm done. I just wanted to say the discussion here is a lot of info.
@joann_marieI was talking about Bryce. I think Bryce got off.
@brycemlipscombNo, I just said okay. Oh, okay. He made a very long, arduous statement, and cool.
@joann_marieAll right, well, this is such a great space and I'm learning so much. And I mean, I like the pushback because everybody, like, we are trying to find the truth, right? So, no, it's been amazing. Thank you so much. And guys, please, again, repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and V and Bryce and everybody on the panel, TruthTeller, who is down there as well, and also BookMarket.
@joann_marieIt helps so much with the algorithm. All right. Raed, go for it. Welcome back.
@thelevantinemanThanks. I can't see anything, but I'm just unmuting and I'll mute when I'm done. Let me just say to Bryce, I respect you and I respect your knowledge. And no one here is trying to discredit you whatsoever, brother. We are all on the same side, like JoAnn has said. And I think when we all, you know, kind of bash ideas and all that, it's called sharpening the sword.
@thelevantinemanWe sharpen each other's sword, that's all. Because there's a lot to unpack. There's a lot of misinformation. And there's a lot of active suppression of the truth. And that goes back a long time, dude. I've done my research on my own in Lebanon. And I arrived to... Almost like 95% of what people like Truth or any other.
@thelevantinemanAnd the only flaw I would like to point out too in the thinking, because you mentioned something about the control of the media, and you alluded or said something about the 1960s. Actually... No, these people controlled actually everything from the printing press to the editing and publishing houses a long time from the early start.
@thelevantinemanWhy? To hide many things to us. And one of them is, for instance, the Rockefellers, they had total control on media or, if you will, on any serious publishing. As of the 1910 onwards, so meaning when I say this, it means in order for us to find the truth, we're not going to find it in a published book because that's very hard to do, to publish.
@thelevantinemanAnd if you publish, they'll bury your book. No one's going to be able to find it. So we have to take, if you will, if you're an academic and doing this topic, you're going to have to... What I'm trying to say is that
@thelevantinemanNo one is fully right, no one is fully wrong. Everyone gets things right and wrong here. But the question that I have is that, for instance, anyone who's any serious about researching 9-11 would very quickly tell you, if I ask him, is Israel involved in it, no one would say probably. Everyone for now would say, Yeah, 100%.
@thelevantinemanSo that's where I start saying, like, what's happening with Bryce? Is his methodology faulty? Is there anything? That's all. Love and respect, and no one is attacking you.
@brycemlipscombSo, I appreciate you, and I thank you very much for the things that you said. I'm going to answer both of the things that you said, the statement first and then the question after. It is my job as a historian to read everybody. And that's the truth of any good historian, should be looking at every single possible source that they can.
@brycemlipscombAnd a true historian looks and tries to find the facts and see which one holds up and which one doesn't, like which ones can be debunked, for instance. And there's a lot of the Olympia story that can be debunked. I'm not saying that everything that Truth says is wrong, because it's not. He is... Spot on, most of the time.
@brycemlipscombAnd he's brilliant. And I don't disagree with that. But what I'm saying is that sometimes we forget that the Jews weren't always in charge. And I know that that's an unpopular thing. And this is why I get obsessed with this part of history, right? This is what I'm so obsessive about. I'm glad you said that, Bryce.
@thelevantinemanFrom the advent of the printing press.
Speaker 1Hold on, let me finish. I don't want to forget this point because it's an important point you just made there. Do you honestly believe World War I was started by an assassination of our true friend Ferdinand in July of 1914? Do you honestly believe that's the correct version of history? Do I believe that that was the thing that started it?
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Speaker 1I just told you, for five years before World War I, since 1909, all of those major powers were ramping up and preparing for war. This is all pre-planned. Do you know why? Part of the reasons why? Because they wanted to take out a bunch of these empires. What was the outcome of World War I? They took out the Ottoman Empire, the Russian Empire, the Austrian-Hungarian Empire, and the Prussian Empire.
Speaker 1Four empires gone. Which empire still remains? And the German Empire. Prussian. I just said Prussian. That's the same thing. Which empire remains?
Speaker 1The British. Exactly. And who was controlling the British Empire?
@brycemlipscombOkay, I didn't say that you were wrong, though. History proves that, you know, what I heard at least. And the research that I've done is that the Rothschilds were playing the allies off of the central powers long before any of this stuff was going on.
Speaker 1You're partially right. But just think that in 1897, they started the Russian, the Jewish Bund League. But you know what?
@brycemlipscombListen, how about we do it this way? How about we do it this way? You don't say that I'm partially right. How about you say that I disagree with you, and here's the reason why.
Speaker 1Well, you're not completely wrong, though, so that would not be an accurate statement. But look, the point I'm trying to make is they were on a timeline and JP Morgan absolutely overlapped with that timeline. I mean, he's healthy and well and making his money. 1897, you have advent of Jewish fund league in Poland. You also have the Zionist Manifesto release.
Speaker 1And then they start having their annual meetings, call it the original globalist meetings, every year to figure out how they can get, or first of all, decide on Palestine, which they did by 1903, 1904. And of course, Herzl dies, Jabotinsky takes over, and he's much more gung-ho. In that point on, they're wanting to first take over religion as well, which they do through the Schofield version of the Bible.
Speaker 1That's 1909. The 1913 Quid Stanley, that's the year where they get Federal Reserve Bank, ADL, and of course the Income Tax Act. That was the last nail in the coffin. If you think JP Morgan had nothing to do with all of these influential things that happened in America, even though he's the biggest banker, one of the biggest bankers in the world at that time, under the Rothschilds.
Speaker 1He worked under them.
@brycemlipscombI believe that's just naive. My only pushback to that My only pushback to that is that JP Morgan was 100% against taxation. He believed that the government had no business taxing what a man earned.
Speaker 6Yeah, because he's so fair.
@brycemlipscombListen, I'm not saying that he was fair or not, but you're saying that he was a part of these things. That's fine, but who do you think?
Speaker 1They would be no Federal Reserve Bank until they had an Income Tax Act. So if he was for the Federal Reserve, somebody has to make those interest payments on the debt.
@brycemlipscombBut he wasn't for the Federal Reserve. That's what I'm trying to tell you. The way that Wilson brought it to him.
Speaker 1He was for it. He was absolutely part of the murder of the three main opponents.
@brycemlipscombHe was for the central banking system, yes. But what I'm telling you is he was not for the Federal The Federal Reserve is a central bank. It's the same thing. Hold on. Can you let me finish what I'm saying, man? You just literally attack without allowing me to finish my speech. Okay, yes, you're right. He was for the central banking institution.
@brycemlipscombThe Federal Reserve, as it was presented by Wilson and who would be governing it and how it would be managed, JP Morgan was not for it.
Speaker 1Okay. First of all, you're aware that Woodrow Wilson was being blackmailed before he even became president, right? He was having an affair with, I think it was with one of his neighbors, with his married neighbor in Princeton when he was, I think, president there. One of the universities, I'm pretty sure it was Princeton.
Speaker 1That aside, they found the letters he was sending to her, the Jews did, of course, and this is the guy they wanted in power. And to make sure that he would win an election, they added Roosevelt as a third candidate, so this way they would take away votes from the incumbent.
@brycemlipscombRoosevelt added himself?
Speaker 1He was told to go run, knowing he wasn't going to win. He didn't just randomly add himself, and you know he was a Jew too, by the way, right? Roosevelt ran for the Republican primary.
@brycemlipscombCan I finish? Can I tell you or are you just going to talk?
Speaker 6Now you're literally arguing a negative, Bryce.
Speaker 1You really think Theodore Roosevelt randomly decided himself?
@brycemlipscombSo Theodore Roosevelt ran for the Republican primary because he truly believed that he could beat Taft. He felt that Taft was siding with the big corporations and was tarnishing not only everything that Roosevelt had done, but was tarnishing the reputation of the Roosevelt administration. So he sought to become the Republican nominee, thinking fully well that he was going to, and honestly, he was going to, until a last-minute change of the rules disqualified a bunch of his delegates.
@brycemlipscombSo those delegates would not be counted, and he would lose the nomination to Taft. At that point, he was in his... And that's how they're able to install Woodrow Wilson, because otherwise the incumbent usually won second term. It's rare to just be a one-termer.
Speaker 1Anyway, they wanted Theodore Roosevelt to run as attorney. He was also backed. You're aware there were three main Jewish financiers that funded all three candidates anyway, right? Jacob Schiff, Max, and Paul Warburg. They were financing all three. So they win no matter what. But they wanted Wilson in power so this way they could finally get the Federal Reserve and also get him to abrogate the commercial treaty they'd had with Russia for almost 100 years by that point.
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Speaker 1So this way they could get their Income Tax Act, their Federal Reserve Act, and also, of course, the abrogation of the commercial treaty with Russia? You wanted me to believe that JP Morgan had no idea about any of this?
@brycemlipscombJP Morgan was extraordinarily sick during this presidential campaign and wasn't very active. His son, Jack, was extraordinarily active, and you're absolutely right. Jack Morgan did back Woodrow Wilson. I can't refute that. And I won't. I'm just saying you've got the wrong Morgan. That's all.
Speaker 1I'm just telling you, father to son back then, they were literally handing over businesses, cash. The father would act as advisor during those times if they were passing on businesses to their kids.
@brycemlipscombAnd you're 100% correct in that time that what it was.
Speaker 1You're saying that didn't apply to the Rockefeller family.
@brycemlipscombI'm not saying that that didn't apply to the Rockefeller family. Can I just finish my thought real quick? Morgan was suffering towards the end. And that man was not lucid or capable of doing anything. Jack Morgan at that point was running the bank, along with a few trusted officers of Morgan & Company, part of the elite group.
@brycemlipscombBut none of those elite groups, by the way, the members, just so you know, were Jewish. A Jew wouldn't get on the... We're going to disagree on that.
Speaker 1And I don't care to rehash it. His father, again, was backed by the Rothschilds and part of the Rothschild table in the UK. And then Junior had to pay his dues before he got to want to go back.
@brycemlipscombYeah, but you see, we have the corporate charter of these banks and we see where the money came from. You know, I wouldn't deny these things if I knew that they were 100% true.
Speaker 1What I'm saying is that we know... And this is fact.
@brycemlipscombTruth. Hold on, man. One of the things that we know is fact in history, just because of writing these speeches, is we know that Morgan, that we know that Morgan, through his own words, did not trust the Rothschilds and refused to do business with them. He was an anti-Semite, and so was his son.
Speaker 1Again, in all what I've looked at, maybe you found one book where there's any indication he was anti-Semite.
@brycemlipscombI didn't find one book. I found multiple books.
Speaker 1One of the things that I had to do while I was in history— I never saw any indication he was anti-Semite because he went along and did meetings with Paul Warburg, and you're the only one that says that he wasn't there at the meeting? Look it up. But then you say he was for a central bank, but not a federal reserve, even though the central bank is a federal reserve.
Speaker 1Yes, I know that the federal reserve is a central bank. You're not taking what I said, you're not giving the... Okay, no.
@brycemlipscombStop.
Speaker 1I said the Federal Reserve... I'm not saying that they're different. I'm not... I was saying the legislation...
@brycemlipscombThe legislation... I told you. I told you the fact that Woodrow Wilson was going to put academics on the board. It was economists and academics... But otherwise, the fundamentals are the same.
Speaker 1He just didn't like economists, according to you.
@brycemlipscombHe wanted bankers. He wanted bankers to be in charge of it.
Speaker 1You think bankers are trustworthy?
@brycemlipscombNo, I don't believe in a central bank.
Speaker 1So then he was in favor of bankers, but you think he was a do-gooder, altruistic in favor of the central bank? I think that he... He's some kind of hero who linked out of the $100 million to his name.
@brycemlipscombFirst of all, I didn't necessarily say that he was a hero. I said that he's a lot better than people portray him as. And that was my whole point about doing this was why I did the Henry Ford thing. There's a lot of myths that go about around these guys. And because we're in the JQ society, the JQ society needs to believe.
@brycemlipscombIt needs to have, some of you just need to hold on to that. Everything in history, everything that was ever done ever is by a Jew. And I say the Jews aren't that fucking clever. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With www.Facebook.com
Speaker 1No, it was the Jewish financiers that told him, do it or we won't give you money.
@brycemlipscombNo, it wasn't Jewish financiers. I just told you, Jacob Schiff, who controlled the most powerful Republican state.
Speaker 1Go read the book, Thomas Dalton, by Thomas Dalton, The Jewish Science in World War I.
@brycemlipscombFirst of all, Truth, you're not... I'm sorry, but that's not true. And if he's writing those facts, he's not using real facts. What I'm telling you is New York was the biggest state at that time, had the most electoral votes, and was the most powerful Republican state. This boss was powerful. He was able to get... Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T, Shashi Learns Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T, Shashi Learns Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With AT&T, Shashi Learns
Speaker 1By the way, another point I want you to look at. Do you understand who Arnold Rothstein was and how much power he had? Yes, the Jewish gangster. You're aware of why unions got so weakened in the U.S. and what his role was, right?
@brycemlipscombI mean, his role with the unions was not that big.
Speaker 1It was massive, along with Dutch Schultz and other kosher. So then you don't know. I did a deep dive on Arnold Rothstein, part of his role.
@brycemlipscombWell, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I actually, this was, I wrote a whole dissertation on this in school. Loved The Mob, one of my favorite things. And Still Pasture? Arnold Rothstein, just so you know, Arnold Rothstein died before the unions became a powerful thing. He died in 1929. Lucky Luciano. And it was Lucky Luciano and Meyer Lansky who built the foundations that would...
@brycemlipscombHe mentored both of them. Yes, he did, absolutely. But they built the mechanisms that controlled the unions, not Arnold Rostow, not Dutch Schultz. Bill Schultz was also dead.
Speaker 1Okay, look, he not only taught them, he was involved. He was hired, in fact, as consultant to hire, to bring in his own people to break up unions or weaken them by infiltrating them so they'd work against their own interest. You're aware that even in the 1900s, for instance, workers didn't really have any rights, even under your beloved Rockefeller.
Speaker 1And there was a case actually in and around 1914 at a mine in Colorado that he owned where his workers stood up. Actually, they went on strike because they wanted better wages. And how did his son respond? Did he give them higher wages? No, his son sent in people. Yeah, he sent in people. He wiped them out. It was a massacre, yes.
Speaker 1So that's how things were because there were no strong unions, thanks to guys like Arnold Rothstein. And he was alive in 1914, alive and well. So that's why there were no strong unions. For you to think that Jews weren't that clever, they weren't clever. It's because they were amoral and malicious and willing to do whatever it takes to gain power.
Speaker 1And they were willing to work for these corporations in these types of roles to weaken unions so the worker would have no power.
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Speaker 1I don't know why you give them so much credit for building the country. He didn't build shit.
@brycemlipscombWho do you think helped? Who do you think built the railroads?
Speaker 1You make it sound like he laid down track. First of all, it was Harriman as well that was in there. It wasn't just Rockefeller. And then there was the steel industry as well.
Speaker 1So stop telling me that Rockefeller was some kind of fucking hero. He wasn't.
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Speaker 1I disagree, and I'm happy that that's your belief. Guys like Roberto Suarez, I don't know if you even know who he is, who's responsible for all the cocaine exports from Colombia that went into the States. He paid off $3 billion of debt in Bolivia. He did more to help Bolivia as a fucking drug trafficker than what Rockefeller did, who allowed for the country to turn to shit like it has.
Speaker 1Pablo Escobar, another drug trafficker, offered to pay off the entire debt of Colombia if they just grant him amnesty and not export him to the States. These criminal guys...
@brycemlipscombAnd Rockefeller helped bail out America during the financial crisis.
Speaker 1Okay, you mean Morgan did. He caused the freaking crash in the first place. I said, if you listen to me, Morgan used Rockefeller money. He didn't have the money to do it. The only reason why Morgan did anything, he was behind this, is because he was for a central bank, which you agree with, but he needed to demonstrate that, hey, if you don't have a central bank, you're going to be subject to these market crashes.
@joann_marieAll right. Thank you, guys. Forti, welcome. Go for it.
@allegedly_fortiHey, thanks, guys. This has been a great conversation. And honestly, I know there's back and forth going on, but I'm actually learning a lot from it, and I really appreciate it. Speakers, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@allegedly_fortiThe evidence that Bryce has presented, they could have done some great things that did help out America at the time or that helped out the people, the working people at the time. And they can also be involved in some things that turned into very nefarious problems that we have today. And I think there's a lot of complexities and a lot of nuances to all of that.
@allegedly_fortiI really do appreciate the back and forth that you guys are both having. I don't have a lot to add except for that. I just wanted to say that two things can be true at once. They can be somebody who did do some great things, as Bryce has presented, and some of those things they did could lead to the problems that we're facing today.
@allegedly_fortiThe question is whether those things were nefarious to begin with or whether those are the outcomes that happened or that they might have had good intentions at the time. And then what got built on after that is how we ended up here today. And so I think this conversation is great, and I'm definitely learning a lot. So I just want to let you guys know I appreciate it.
@allegedly_fortiIan, JoAnn, V, thank you guys for hosting and co-hosting. This has been a great conversation.
@joann_marieWell, that was lovely. Thank you so much, Forti. Sorry, go for it, please.
@brycemlipscombYeah, Forti, I love what you said. Because at the end of the day, and listen, I can... I disagree with truth, and I can disagree with some of the people on here, but at the end of the day, we're all here because we've noticed things. And we notice things that we're being told does not exist, but we can see in real time that it does.
@brycemlipscombAnd you're right, history is one of those things, man, where it is, you really start digging yourself into trenches and not wanting to move from your side because you believe your side is right. Unfortunately, this is where people in our movement start to break up, right? All of us have different ideas. All of us have, like Forti said, two truths can exist at a time.
@brycemlipscombI fully am willing to agree that Rockefeller and JP Morgan did some shitty, horrible things. But they did some pretty good things, too. Ford did some pretty shitty things. But he did amazing things for this country. And... What I was hoping to get to, and I was never able to fully get, was that one of the reasons why I admire these three individuals... Bro, I was just going to say, if it wasn't for JP Morgan... No, no, no, don't interrupt, Ray.
@joann_marieDon't. Sorry, Ray. Thank you.
@brycemlipscombThat's okay. Yeah, sorry about that, Bryce. It's all good. The reason why I like looking at these three people, and you can look it up on your Google box and tap it into ChatDBT, Was there opinions on the Rothschilds and Jews? Now, Rockefeller was a little bit more kind and would absolutely work with the Rothschilds. I don't disagree with that.
@brycemlipscombBut if you look up Morgan's comments on Jews, his belief in Jewish bankers, Jewish-run companies, Jewish-run countries, You will see a man that has a complete and utter disdain for those individuals. And that is what I came away from appreciating about these two individuals, like the people that I consider, you know, people I like to read about and I enjoy, Ford and Morgan.
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@joann_marieAll right, thank you so much, Bryce. Raed, go for it.
@thelevantinemanYeah, thanks. I'm going to drill again at the same point that I said before and I never got an answer or comment. No one is saying that Jews are behind everything. And two times, Bryce, you have commented that some people are stuck behind and they don't want to move. But what I hear here... Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@thelevantinemanWith that, the brokenness, with that, the crazy, with that, that I am shocked, first of all. I'm shocked to be in a space where someone that understands the Jewish question can talk about John D. That charlatan, by any measure, in the documentation of him being the ultimate charlatan, Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 1What else did Uday Hussain do? He's a rapist. He was a pedophile. He was a drunk. He loved pornography. He was, by all sense of the word, a full-on degenerate. Are you telling me his father had nothing to do with his upbringing and his value system and how he operated? So for Bryce, for you to say that John Jr. deserves absolutely no attribution to his father as far as how he was raised is just naive and inaccurate.
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Speaker 1So you're just being really naive there to just forgive John Sr. for all the crime and subversion that his son committed afterwards with his money.
Ian MalcolmSorry, Raed, go ahead. Real quick, so this is just from Grok, which I find this really curious. I'll be curious for everybody's thoughts, right? Doubly curious. So according to Grok, and take that for what you will for obvious reasons, And Grock's basically suggesting that there are secondhand, rather strong remarks, not necessarily from JP Morgan Sr., although it's saying that...
Ian MalcolmThis is very telling. It's actually saying, at the time, essentially everybody that would have been around Morgan Sr., that... Speakers, IanMalcolm84, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
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Ian MalcolmSubjecting the Jew is always the Jew first and the American second, which I find rather curious, right? So kind of a statement. It goes on to say that there may have been similar views held by the father, although no direct, I guess, evidence to validate them. So it's curbing the opinions just a smidge. But there's also a line in here, kind of maybe Bryce, one for you to comment on.
Ian MalcolmAlso, supposedly 1917 private conversation reported by the Federal Reserve Board member Charles Hamlin in his diary, suggesting that in a talk with Morgan Jr. at the Metropolitan Club, Morgan seemed extremely bitter against Warburg and Jewish bankers, saying that he did not nor never could trust Jews, believing that they had prospectively been involved in the killing
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@brycemlipscombI don't want to say it that way because I think we can all agree that we don't hate people here. At least I've heard you, Ian, say that you don't hate people. He truly did believe that it was the Jews that killed his father with the help of Roosevelt and Wilson.
@brycemlipscombThe only thing that I want to say, Truth, to everybody here and Ian and you, Joan, And then I'll kind of just let everybody else talk from here. I am America only. And America only, I believe, in American greatness. And I think that we are a great nation. And I think that we have been subverted by Israel, Zionists, and Jews.
@brycemlipscombAnd the only way for us to... People like Morgan, people like Ford, you have that history right there of Americans, Protestant Christian Americans, coming out
@brycemlipscombAnd doing business against Jews, pointing out the fact that Jews own so much of our communication and are behind the wars that America gets involved in. I think that that's something that America needs. We need heroes right now. And that's just my personal belief. I understand that there are a bunch of different historical theories out there, and you know what, Truth?
@brycemlipscombI'm going to look into the stuff that you gave me. Gladly. I can't wait to dive into the stuff that you've posted. And if you want to send anything personally to me, man, send it. I am going to absorb all of it because it's something that I like. And if you want any of my stuff, I'd be more than happy to give it to you.
@brycemlipscombBut at the end of the day, I hope that all of us recognize we're here for a reason. And that reason is to call truth to power. And to recognize that our government does not work for us, it works for the glory of Israel and the Zionist Jews that run Israel. And I hope that we can all maintain a collegiate friendship, understanding that we're not going to always agree on everything, and that's cool, we don't have to.
@brycemlipscombBut where it matters, we're united as one.
@thelevantinemanCan I continue because I got interrupted and then I could...
Ian MalcolmBut Bryce, I also just wanted to comment. That's exactly the type of attitude that I'm really glad that we have in these, not only in this space in particular, but amongst this community, right? And I think that kind of outreach and teamwork is how we move things forward. And so I just sincerely appreciate not only Bryce for being in here, kind of presenting as he did,
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Ian MalcolmThe head of all mobile engineering for X. I went through and I just typed in his name and I typed in the word Jew and Jewish and I came across some interesting posts. Yes, he is, of course. He also made a comment about essentially that claiming that Israel had conducted a genocide of the Palestinians was quote-unquote attacking Jews, which I found very curious.
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@joann_marieYeah, no, that was beautiful. And seriously, well, at least I am. I'm seriously looking for the truth. And I love hearing the different perspectives and challenging also my ideas. So I really do appreciate it, Bryce. So thank you so much. And obviously, truth. And yeah, no, it's been so interesting. My mind is blown and it's, I love the back and forth, but yeah, we're on the same side and we can all agree to disagree on things and agree on some others.
@joann_marieAnd I'm just blessed to be around so many knowledgeable people. So thank you guys and love you all. Okay. I'm going to go to someone who hasn't spoken and then we'll go back.
@thelevantinemanBecause I don't want to also be, Bryce doesn't know me, I don't want to be misunderstood 100%, I don't want to. So I just want to clarify a few things. I don't know much about Morgan Rule a little bit, but in general, any banker and bankster, I believe that today's world, these people shouldn't be let go easily in general rule.
@thelevantinemanThe Rockefeller 100% thing, The truth about, because I have research, and part of my research, Bryce, and to anyone listening as a Lebanese, first of all, all the power to the beautiful 350 million Americans on taking back their country, cleaning it up, throwing all the corrupt politicians out, and living with the prosperity and happiness that you deserve.
@thelevantinemanMy problem is with Washington, and I always make that clear. And the problem is in Washington is the complete control of banksters and Jews and military industrial complex and all that corruption that infests this decision-making center. And my problem is the little pushback is that I was trying to make the point that Bryce, the control over...
@thelevantinemanYour information sphere started from the advent of the printing press. Once, you know, with the industrial revolution, the steam engine, etc., etc., and the large-scale industrial scale, if you will, printing of books, these people were under control already. And that is why they were able to hide so many things about history easily, because they had that
@thelevantinemanThe problem with the Rockefellers, if you think that today you're going to find a book that would display them in any negativity that easily as a book that you might find on a shelf, that is what I meant by being naive. It's like you have to dig deeper. I'll give you two grams, but write down these names, Gary Allen and Eustace Mullins.
@thelevantinemanI mean, these are not like fringe. These are not like, no one would call Eustace Mullins conspiracy theorist. So if you want to understand the real history of the Rockefellers, you must read these two and a half, so many. Dude, I did archive. I'm a sucker for knowledge. So I just, my point is that, yes, you can be proud of, you've got so many great men to be proud of.
@thelevantinemanJust don't bring Rockefeller. Rockefeller is not the one that's going to do that for you. Henry Ford, 100%. I mean, go check out Benjamin Friedman. He's an American Catholic. He's actually a Jew that converted. Read his book. Eustace Mullins, Ezra Pounds. There's so many glorious people to be proud of, you know, to uplift your society and all that.
@thelevantinemanBut not the Rockefellers. I'm sorry, guys. That's all. That's my opinion. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the end of the day, you can't be in the JQ and whitewashed Rockefeller. Like, give me a fucking break. Sorry. Thank you.
@brycemlipscombAll I'll say on that is that I would be hard to find a book that was pro-Rockefeller. Almost every single book is negative.
@thelevantinemanOh, poor Rockefeller. I'm going to write a good book about him, about that family. You know that the result of the medical industry that you have, the pharmaceutical industry that you have, even your schooling system. Who picked the Prussian schooling system because it creates drones? Rockefeller. The insidious nature on Rockefeller, on your country, is so in your face.
@thelevantinemanIf you can't see it, I'm sorry for you, my brother. They destroyed your country from the launch.
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@thelevantinemanOkay. The son is a result of the dad, and the dad was a snake oil salesman, and everybody knows that he was a charlatan that jumped from one state to the other because he was a crook. The dad is a crook, the son is a crook. Wake up, Bryce.
@joann_marieOkay, thanks, Raed. Billy Bob Boy.
@billybobbo2467Yeah, so it's interesting, you know, in history, you'll famously note that Bismarck famously made speeches against the war because the king asked him that he didn't want to go to war and to please make speech against the war. And he said, yeah, we're not interested in going to war. And of course, Bismarck went to war. Sometimes what a man says and what a man does is two completely different things.
@billybobbo2467As is the case with Morgan, right? He said that he was against, and you yourself said, he was against the stock market. You know, he didn't like the stock market, but yet he saved the stock market, right? He was against, you know, he didn't want to tax, he didn't believe that the federal government wanted to be taxed. And he was against, you know, the federal, you know,
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@billybobbo2467And, you know, this is really annoying. You know, I care about facts and I care about what people do in their life. And so, you know, I think that you can, there's the saying in the Bible, by their fruits, you shall know them. What were the fruits of Rockefeller? Well, the fruits of Rockefeller were... We're not good for the average person.
@billybobbo2467The oil industry could have flourished just as well with small businessmen than with one monopoly and massive control of one man. This is another thing that I didn't really understand with his soliloquy and bolstering of monopoly. I think monopolies are some of the most destructive things that have kept average Americans from attaining real wealth in this country and independence in this country.
@billybobbo2467So it's really weird that Bryce was kind of championing that because I was listening to his speech earlier. The other thing that I found that was really interesting is is this notion that I can tell you that my biggest advisor in my own life is my father and that a father doesn't have massive influence over a son, particularly a son that's inheriting his father's business.
@billybobbo2467Anybody who has a family business, who has run a family business and is inheriting a family business from the founder of that business, will clearly have, regardless of what ill health somebody might have, okay, will still take and seek the advice and counsel of the father. So yes, I do think, you know, there's a saying in Spanish that tal palo, tal hastia, from such a tree falls such a fruit, right?
@billybobbo2467So, This is where I beg to differ. Truth Teller pointed out famously, Uday and Qudai Hussein, what was the tree of lineage that they fell from? And what is the byproduct? Benjamin and Yahoo has a son. My information is that he's not that great of a person. So it is interesting. I do blame a family lineage for the fruits that have been produced.
@billybobbo2467The Rockefeller Foundation has done immense damage to this country, immense damage in the form of, you know, the chemicals that are put into our food, the pesticides that are being used to poison us, the fact that, you know, Plastics are such a huge part of industry in this country. There's so many different alternatives that could have come about.
@billybobbo2467I would actually argue that what happened during that age, that so-called golden age or gilded age, was a stifling of innovation that could have led to a better future for all Americans.
@brycemlipscombAnd that's where I think that... What innovation was stifled, if you don't mind me asking?
@billybobbo2467Bro, I'll just say this. JP Morgan... Okay, first of all... Excuse me, Ray. Ray, he was asking me the question. I'd like to answer it, if you don't mind. So, you know, look. Competition breeds innovation. And maybe you don't understand this because you're a historian and not a business person. But when you have immense amount of competitors in an industry,
@billybobbo2467It drives innovation forward, and this has been proven time and time again through basic economics. So anyway, Bryce, it was a pleasure. It's very late where I am in my part of the world, but thanks a lot.
Speaker 8I just want to say something real quick to Bryce's joke, bro. JP Morgan did horrible things to Tesla. Tesla, I mean, was transmitting wireless electricity through radio signals. That's a great point, Ray. Yeah, you could just turn on, like, the radio, 95.6, and you get a full charge on your battery.
@billybobbo2467It was free electricity. He invented free electricity. And, and, or, or, you know... Well, JP Morgan had... And that's... He didn't want to be... He wasn't able to monetize.
Speaker 8You couldn't monetize that. JP Morgan was in bed with the copper factories and the copper industry, and he was like... What's that? I'm a little tired here. His whole thing was to meter electricity. And so he's like, okay, I'm knocking out two of my, you know, portfolios at the same time. You know, I meter the electricity, I make money.
Speaker 8And then I, you know, get my buddies, you know, lines of copper set up and I make money off that. These people are scumbags. And I'll say something. You can have people out there doing good things. Look at Donald Trump. Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
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@brycemlipscombSo Morgan didn't back and didn't have Tesla in his portfolio. He had Edison. He was backing DC Current and George Westinghouse was backing AC Current. George Westinghouse was the backer of Nikola Tesla, not JP Morgan.
Speaker 8That's what I was saying. JP Morgan put Tesla out of business and Tesla was...
@brycemlipscombSo Tesla didn't technically go out of business. George Westinghouse overspent and then during one of the financial crisis lost a ton of money and was just no longer able to continue to back Tesla. And Morgan had a significant amount of money in Edison and was going to continue with Edison. So, you know, again, I've heard this many, many times before.
@brycemlipscombIt's one of the things that I've studied into this Tesla issue. And Morgan didn't kill Tesla. It was the fact that Westinghouse ran out of money. And Morgan already was financially tied to Thomas Edison.
@joann_marieAll right. Thank you. I didn't know any of this. All right. McMarcy, go for it.
Speaker 6Well, I just wanted to tell one thing that Bryce was talking about, and actually he brought it up right now too, and that is when British Petroleum, actually Rockefellers were amongst the very first people that found oil in Iran. I don't remember if they were very first, but they were amongst the very first, and... British Petroleum, they built houses in the southern part of Iran, beautiful houses, big complexes for their workers and their engineers because they were giving I think around 10% of the proceeds to the oil to Iran and they were taking 90% of it.
Speaker 6But still the houses are there. It's like a small town and it's one of the luxurious even now after all these decades. It's one of the luxurious parts of Abadan, a city in southern Iran. Now, you said that those three names, they did great things for America. I just wanted to correct it. They did great things in America.
Speaker 6When you say for America, it means they had this purpose in mind to build up the country. But in order for you to be able to exploit the resources the country has, If there are no infrastructure, there are no ways for you to benefit from that, you have to build something in order for you to be able to steal the wealth of a country and its nation.
Speaker 6So if that is the purpose, you cannot say they did great things for the United States. And this is the part that you get from the facts as you mentioned it, because as I said before, it's not facts, it's just suppositions, I believe, but whatever. You jump from that to the conclusion, and that is the intention of those people.
Speaker 6But that's just not there. And if you want to look at it again, you have to first ask the question, why did they do it? But I don't think even in your analysis, you have this in your mind that they did this out of the kindness of their heart. They may even have wanted the country to advance as much as possible, but they didn't do it for the United States.
Speaker 6They did it for other purposes. And we see that in almost everything else. So doing a bunch of stuff, Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With www.StreetMediaTV.com
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Speaker 6Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at least talk about proving but a negative like they haven't done this like Woodrow Wilson wasn't influenced by anyone that can't be proven it's a negative you can only have proof for a positive but i do appreciate the nuances you know going to the details of one specific you know historical notes that that person did this or
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@joann_mariePaul, thank you so much, McMercy. Elijah, go for it.
@123youknowitsmeElijah? I'll pass at this time, thank you. Okay. Forti, go for it.
@allegedly_fortiOh yeah, so I actually just had a question for both Truth Teller and Bryce, whoever might be able to answer this, because I can't confirm it. I know this could just be conspiracy theories or rumors, but I had heard and read Speakers, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Speakers, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
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Speaker 1All right. So, again, this is a claim that's made in Bill Bryson's book that Rockefeller actually changed his name from Rogenfeld to Rogenfelder, which is Jewish, to Rockefeller over time. And so, you know, he was actually part of the tribe. And that's how he was able to advance the way he did and become a plantation owner.
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@allegedly_fortiThe Rockefellers were essentially like the American Rothschilds. And whether that was through marriage or not, maybe it wasn't through marriage, but is that just through just associations or is that just kind of a trope?
Speaker 1No, I've heard it before. I don't remember where I read it. It was many years ago. The Rockefellers did marry into the Rothschild family, just like the David Sassoon family married into the Rothschild family. This is a common thing because, again, they want to keep the wealth within the family, the tribe.
@brycemlipscombAnd the other thing they do is— There is no substantial evidence to show that the Rockefellers married Rothschilds. I'm not saying there is.
Speaker 1I'm not definitive on this. Like I said, I've read it somewhere. I don't know. I can't even remember where, and I'm not claiming it to be true. But what I'm telling you is this. Either you're Jewish or you have to marry a Jew or your kid has to marry a Jew. So this way the money ends up going or remaining within the tribe, and that's how it is.
Speaker 1JP Morgan, for instance, he's, not JP Morgan, what's his name, Jamie Dimon, he's Orthodox Christian, he's Greek Orthodox, but he married a Jew, kids will get the money. Jess Daly, Epstein's banker, same deal, married a Jew, kids are gonna end up with all the money. Trump himself has to sacrifice his daughter, married a Jew.
Speaker 1Even this so-called Crown Prince from Iran, daughter married a Jew. You see the pattern here? The money, if they're gonna allow you to accumulate a lot of wealth and reach that billionaire status, You've got to either enter the tribe by converting yourself. Trump, I think, did that as well. Or you marry a Jew or your kid has to marry a Jew if you've got kids.
Speaker 1Otherwise, you're out. So that's their pathway to consolidate wealth. I don't believe he was any different with Rockefeller. Whether you believe he was a Jew, maybe he married into a Jew or his kid did. I'm sure if you look deep enough into the pedigree... His wife was Baptist.
@brycemlipscombWe know this. We can track all of the lineage of the Rockefeller family. We have the lineology. We can show that John D. Rockefeller married a Baptist. His son married a Presbyterian.
Speaker 1That's fine. We also know what the Rockefeller legacy is. It certainly isn't any good. You just want to claim that John D. Rockefeller was a great guy, a hero, but his kids fucked it all up.
@brycemlipscombYeah, but you just literally want to entwine Jews into the Rockefeller family. Absolutely, because Rockefeller was financed by Jews.
Speaker 1You have not explained to me how Rockefeller accumulated all the money he needed to be able to then be able to buy out all the competing oil and gas firms to create his monopoly. Where did he get his money from? You told me he was broke. It's because the Rothschilds backed him and he was never broke and he might have been Jewish.
Speaker 1Okay, that's the truth. You want to claim you married a Baptist? Fine. Doesn't mean he didn't come from a Jewish family. I just provided the source that claims he was Jewish.
@brycemlipscombRockefeller made his money, and I'm reading this now verbatim. Rockefeller made his money, early money, through a combination of meticulous bookkeeping, disciplined personal savings, and a successful early venture in a whole grain produce merchant business. All things that I said early on.
Speaker 1Go read about how, hey, why don't you go read about how the Lehman Brothers became the third biggest banking empire in the world. And go see if that history makes any sense to you. Yeah, they own slaves too, by the way. But do you know how they started out? What do they have to do with the Rockefeller? What does that have to do with Rockefeller?
Speaker 1Dude, this is why you frustrate me. You can be frustrated because you can't give me any actual evidence that they're tied to anybody. You're pulling stuff out of your ass. And you can't even back yourself up. You're just getting so angry because you can't give any facts. You're a pseudo-intellectual fraud that's poisoning and causing brain
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Speaker 1Listen, you just want to claim because he married a Baptist that he couldn't have changed his name and they couldn't have rewritten history. That's your only claim. You also said it was a conspiracy theory that they could have swapped out ships between the Olympic and, of course, the Titanic. You just said it's conspiracy theory because major historians disagree.
Speaker 1The same major historians that disagree and claim, you know, they all want to claim the Holocaust was real. So historians get it wrong all the time because they have a political motive. It's the same thing here. Yeah, people want to believe these legacy families earned it. If you aspire towards it, you can become among the 0.1%.
Speaker 1If you just dedicate yourself to proper bookkeeping and you have discipline and you save every last cent, you too can own an oil empire. Like, get the fuck out of here, man. Are you fucking serious? You're not a historian. You're a clown. You have no idea what you're talking about. And the Jews took over. America is the Jewish project.
Speaker 1And I just told you, it was a Jew that started the first chartered bank in 1791. Okay, it was Alexander Hamilton's project. And then they renewed it in 1816 for 20 years as well. And then they didn't have it from 1836 where they pushed and did everything in their power to get it back and they got it in 1913. They never gave up.
Speaker 1And they owned America as a corporation since 1872. When it overlaps with the same time, the guys like JP Morgan, Vanderbilt, and all those oligarchs made their wealth. America was owned by the City of London, which I don't even think you know anything about, and who the Bloodline families are. They control the global finance, not just America's finance.
Speaker 1There are no fucking American heroes. Get the fuck over it. You know who the heroes are in America? It's the hardworking men. The electricians, the plumbers, the bricklayers, the guys that actually built something, not the guys you make under an income from off the backs of slaves. You're looking for a fucking hero and that's your problem.
Speaker 1You read too many Marvel comic books. Get the fuck off that shit. I don't buy the Marvel comic books. Another Jewish fabrication and creation. There are no American heroes that made it as billionaires. They got through because they were willing to sell their fucking souls for the almighty American dollar. Okay? That's nothing to aspire towards.
Speaker 1There's nothing moral or admirable about that for selling your soul for shekels. And that's what these guys did.
Speaker 1And monopolies are fucking evil. For you to think that competition isn't a good thing and stifles creation and innovation is bullshit because when there's a monopoly, there's no longer incentive to want to create better product. Why do you think Apple's products are all stagnant? They make most of their profits off of what?
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Speaker 1Those who control the currency. You couldn't answer that because you don't understand economics, basic economics advice. It therefore means I need to accumulate a shit ton of gold so I can print more currency and then obviously be able to wage more wars because wars are very expensive. And that, of course, leads to racking up debt.
Speaker 1And JP Morgan was in favor of that. You really need to go do a deeper dive because right now you come up as a fraud and a charlatan, just like Trump.
@123youknowitsmeDo you mind if I jump in here, if you don't mind?
@allegedly_fortiHold on, hold on, hold on. I have one other question, if I could. I'd like to hear Bryce answer this first, and then Truth, if your opinion differs, I'd like to hear your side of it as well. So if we're going on what Bryce said, and I'm not discrediting or crediting anything here, but if we're going on what you said about JP Morgan, and I think there is some truth to it,
@allegedly_fortiI think there's also some truth to what Truth is saying. But if we're going on that, at what point, historically, did the entity of JP Morgan Banking change over in how so or why to what it is today with Jamie Dimon running it, with it clearly running on usury and all the bullshit they're involved in. We can look at the crypto stuff and all of that.
@allegedly_fortiWhere did the Morgan family lose control over it? I'm uneducated on this, so I'm genuinely asking.
@brycemlipscombThe Morgan family does not control the Morgan Bank. Jack Morgan, which is JP Morgan's son, was the last Morgan involved in the banking industry. His kid was involved a little bit, but never got to the position of controlling the bank like his father and his son did. Eventually, the... Head executives of JP Morgan & Company took over, and they radically changed the bank over time.
@brycemlipscombIt didn't happen overnight. It took decades for the bank to change to what it is today.
@allegedly_fortiSo essentially, it got taken over by the Jews? Yes.
@joann_marieOh, thank you, Bryce. Andy, welcome.
@froemelandyYeah, I mean, it's really good to dig into these families and how a lot of them are connected. I mean, you can literally go to the Rockefeller's or Rothschild's Wikipedia, and there's literally a line from like 15 years ago about how the families are great friends. And it's on their public Wikipedia. I saw it a while ago.
@froemelandySo anyone who says, oh, it's a conspiracy. Post it up. I don't have it on me right now. I'll have to dig for it in a minute. But like anyone who... I'll have to go through it. But last time I checked, the reason I checked that a while ago is my friend, the guy who redpilled me, explained that to me. So like anyone who explains...
@froemelandySo yeah, this is not a conspiracy. These families don't work together. They do work together. It's not just, oh, it's not just one family. Like, yeah, the Rockefellers absolutely are basically the American... Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
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@froemelandyMore assets, but it's a lot more palatable for the public to say, hey, Elon with his tech is the wealthiest person. Then, oh, these ancient families are really the wealthiest people. That's a much more palatable story to the public. Like, the public can accept this rich guy with social media and cool rocket ships and cool cars.
@froemelandyLike, yeah, Elon's a cool dude. But if people actually knew, oh, wait. This ancient banking family that goes back hundreds of years from Europe actually is the richest family. People would not accept that. So they have to hide their assets while they covertly run things. And that is very hard to unwind that level of power.
@froemelandyAnd if you think about just all the aspects of Jewish supremacy, the things that they've implemented the most recently are the most insane as people have become more tolerant. The transgender ideology is probably arguably the most insane thing they've implemented and that's probably the easiest to untangle. That's a lot easier to untangle and get rid of that and then maybe say defunding Israel and then the media control is harder to get rid of than defunding Israel.
@froemelandyAnd then the hardest, most entrenched power they have is obviously the banks. That's the hardest thing. Thanks, Andy. Just very quickly, the point was made about
Speaker 1How these certain individuals stifled innovation or new technologies and new discoveries. They do it all the time. You know, they once had discovered, they created, for instance, a flashlight that can just keep operating forever. Or they had light bulbs that would never go out. They could last over 100 years. Who do you think stifled all that innovation and put it out?
Speaker 1So this way you have to go out and buy new flashlights or buy new light bulbs. Those same people in charge. So if you think guys like Tesla weren't impeded, they absolutely were. Now you want to say it wasn't JP Morgan, it was someone else?
@brycemlipscombTruth, you talked about the electric car. And you're right, there was a creation of the electric car. Can you discuss why Henry Ford didn't go to the electric car and why he made his engine a gas combustion engine instead? Yes. Why did he do that?
@123youknowitsmeWell, he was known for that. He was known for the... He was known for... Yeah, exactly. Streamlining...
@brycemlipscombHe actually created his combustible engine. He put that together. But there was a reason... No, no, no. It's not a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1But there was a great reset to get rid of that electric technology that was far more efficient that emitted zero byproducts as well.
@brycemlipscombSo, he actually worked for... No, that's interesting. He actually worked for General Electric. He worked for Thomas Edison, Henry Ford did. It was his first big job. And he actually describes in his own diary why he didn't push for the electric car. And that was because the battery capacity at the time was so large that it weighed down the car.
@brycemlipscombAnd it just wasn't conducive to the type of automobile that he was trying to create. The technology wasn't there yet to perfect an electric car. This is all in Henry Ford's diary. It's not like there was a big conspiracy to get rid of the electric car. The electric car has been around forever. There has been all kinds of adaptations to it.
@brycemlipscombIt has been sold by many, many different companies throughout the world since the late 1800s.
@123youknowitsmeThat's interesting because it seems like this whole You know, everybody on the global, you know, warming exchange seems like they're on the cuckoo side, but, you know, that could definitely be manufactured, so to speak, you know, based off of... Now, I do want to say that truth is absolutely right, that the modern creation of what JP Morgan's company has become, Morgan Bank, has stifled.
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@markofmelb1974And so the story goes that the Olympic was T-boned by a military naval vessel. A year earlier, that's right, it was damaged. And that the drive shaft was warped and basically rendered the boat, you know, it was a write-off for the most part. So the story goes they swapped the names and everything like that. And so... JP Morgan killed two birds with one stone.
@markofmelb1974He disposed of the wrecked boat, and he knocked off a few people. The question is, though, is there any... And he collected on the insurance policy. Right, right. So the question is, though, is there any bona fide historical data like newspaper clippings, military records?
Speaker 1Look up in the nest. I put it up. There's a full thread. They got over 22 million views. And of course, then Community Notes had to tack on some bullshit about it. But yeah, so he's presented all of his facts and sources are there as well about the Titanic.
@markofmelb1974So there were military records or like, just give us a quick synopsis.
Speaker 1Okay, so look, both the US and British governments refused to do full investigations as to what took place. They're still pushing this whole iceberg narrative, the damage. They refused to concede that, you know, it could have been a different ship. And they wanted to say this was like a random act of God or something, divine intervention that caused this shit to get sunk.
Speaker 1And meanwhile, you had three influential people on there. Now, Bryce will say only one of them was opposed to a Federal Reserve essential bank, but all three were, Guggenheim, Strauss, and John Astor. But, you know, all of them get wiped. And he also wants to tell you JP Morgan wasn't supposed to be there that day. He was.
Speaker 1He had, fine, he had his own cabinet, whatever, but he was still supposed to be there and bailed to the last minute. So this is a, you know, it was a major... Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
@joann_marieOkay, and I'm going to post it in the purple pill because of the reader out of context situation. It makes my screen lag and it's really annoying. So it's not that I don't want you guys to see it. It's just that it's annoying.
Speaker 1JoAnn, can you hear me? Real quick. And then if you look in the thread, it says an 85 researchers discovered the Titanic wreck. They found something shocking. The metal plating was bent outward. Which means an explosion would have had to have happened on the inside. The damage would not have been caused by an iceberg that would have struck it from the outside because there's outbound.
Speaker 1The dent is, you can see it's come out externally rather than an internal hit, which is what the iceberg would have done. So this contradicts the claim of the iceberg. That's solid evidence right there. But again, they refuse to do any official investigations to draw any real conclusions outside of what they want to claim.
Speaker 1Because of course, we want you to believe that narrative. It's not open to any interpretation as far as they're concerned, just like the Holocaust.
@123youknowitsmeI agree with you, Truth. Honestly, Truth, if nobody interrupts me, I have to say, Truth, you're one of those very rare people who's got eyes and ears, who questions and tries to see and seeks, and not a lot of people do that. A lot of people, they're honed down with fucking bills. And other crap. And so I'm out here and trying to figure shit out.
@joann_marieThank you so much, Elijah. Yeah, he's the best. All right. And I'm going to leave that thread for five minutes, but then I'm going to remove it because it's really annoying for my screen. Saltik, welcome. Go for it.
Speaker 9Hey, thanks for the mic. I don't know. I guess you guys discussed this a little bit earlier. I had to leave. I couldn't listen earlier in the space. I had something come up at home. I just wanted to kind of touch on what Truth was saying. Basically, what happened with the Titanic was it had a collision with a British warship.
Speaker 9I think it was HMS Warspite or something like that. It was a heavy cruiser coming out of Southampton. And an admiral in the Tea Board of Inquiry found that the Olympic was at fault for the collision. And he's absolutely right about when JP Morgan canceled his trip at the last minute. Basically, what happened there was they decided to do this while the Titanic was fitting out in Harland & Wolfe shipyard over a weekend.
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Speaker 9He's the one who found the Titanic in 1985. And you may be able to find this online if you guys want to look it up. The famous Alvin mini submarine, the little robotic mini submarine. There's basically a footage of Alvin panning with its camera and a spotlight over the hull of the ship. And you can see an O basically painted over in black, the silhouette of an O where it was painted over.
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Speaker 9People who know the story of the Titanic, you'll know that the people were basically rescued by this, I think it was a freighter, it was called the Carpathia. Well, before the Carpathia got there, there was another ship that was called the SS Californian. The SS Californian was loaded with blankets and pillows and candles and all kinds of stuff to keep people warm.
Speaker 9The plan was not to kill everybody on the Titanic. The plan was to basically compromise the tull and get everybody off and with the exception of the few people that they wanted to kill who would have basically been locked in their staterooms along with some of the poor people and they were going to get the majority of the passengers off and put them aboard the Californian.
Speaker 9The problem was they had the wrong color flares. This is even in Wikipedia. You can look this up. The radio man on the Californian was in communication. With the radio man from the Titanic. And what they were doing was they were firing these flares. In those days, they called them rockets. They were supposed to fire red rockets.
Speaker 9They were firing white rockets. So they didn't know that they were supposed to get the people off onto the Californian due to the wrong color flares being fired. So the captain of the Californian went to bed and the radio man didn't know what to do. And the Californian just basically sailed on. And that's how they had this tragedy happen.
Speaker 9And then the Carpathia came along later on and got most of these people. So the whole thing was planned from the start. Just wanted to kind of fill in some gaps there. I'll end it there.
@joann_marieThanks, Celtic. Thank you so much, Celtic. Yeah, it's so interesting. All right. And also, guys, please repost this space. Follow Ian and V and Bryce and Truth and everybody on the panel. And thank you so much for being here, everyone. And I do not see any more hands, but Truth, would you like to add anything else?
@markofmelb1974I guess Bryce couldn't handle the conspiracy theories coming out of Celtic.
@joann_marieNo, no, he has a business meeting and he had to step down, but he did an amazing job and he has a different perspective than most of the people here and that's fine. And I learned a lot and I love the pushback and the back and forth and I don't know. But he did such an amazing job, guys. He kept it together very well. Elijah, go for it.
@123youknowitsmeHey, thank you. I don't have much to say. All I have to say is I hope everyone, I mean, I believe that everyone here in this space pretty much has the capability to understand what's right and wrong, and I hope you guys choose to do what's right and not what's wrong, because if you choose to do what's wrong, Believe me, you're not going to have to answer to me.
@123youknowitsmeYou're going to have to answer to the unseen force that's going to come for you. And I'll leave it at that. Amen.
@joann_marieVery true. Thank you, Elijah. Hubbard, welcome.
@hubbard595628I just saw your post that you did a 9-11 space two years ago. I feel betrayed. I should have known about you guys back then.
@joann_marieIt was awesome. It was amazing. Yes. You should check it out.
@joann_marieIt's in the Purple Pill, guys, and there's going to be a banger 9-11 space.
@joann_marieYeah, and I need to recycle.
@allegedly_fortiDid JoAnn just cut out for anybody else or is that just me?
Speaker 10Yeah, I heard it too. I just wasn't sure what was going on. I couldn't hear her. She said she's going to recycle.
@markofmelb1974Yeah, I just caught a little bit of Bryce there. It seems that, and I know I'm not American, I'm Australian, but it seems Bryce has a case of United States idolatry. That, oh, America's so great and like, you know, Jews weren't there from the very start. And, you know, like, I think, yeah, he might just be along in his journey, but he's not quite sort of there yet.
@markofmelb1974As far as understanding the influence and the way the power works. So I do appreciate the space and I guess I have to say that I'm on Truth's side on the matter. But that's what I see. I just felt that there was a bit of an attitude of, you know, America's so great because of, you know, certain things. But yeah, I think he just has to dig a little bit deeper.
Speaker 1It's just this claim that, well, you know, back then the oligarchs made it on merit. You know, they had good intentions. They would never want to hurt anybody to make all that wealth. But only today they're evil. Back then they had good intentions. Today everything's different. No, they've always been the same way. And they've been around for centuries, even longer.
Speaker 1It's thousands of years. So the mindset doesn't change. The lack of morality and the devotion to, well, their god, Baal, Moloch, whatever, is the same, whether it's through Freemasonry or it's through Judaism. So, yeah, it's just... Subscribe for more!
@markofmelb1974Yeah, it's still a version of trust the plan, isn't it?
Speaker 1Trust the plan and believe all our history books, they never lie. Otherwise, it's a conspiracy theory like the Titanic, right?
Speaker 9I remember when I first came across the information that we were talking about with the Titanic in about 2017, 2018, and I was somebody who was pretty well-versed in all the different conspiracies. Even I was pretty shocked by it because of how elaborate it was. But when you look at all the different pieces of information, it all comes together and it makes perfect sense.
@markofmelb1974Yeah, a lot of truth is, especially Americans, they're okay to admit that a lot of the walls were fomented Well, I mean, personally, I have to say, I believe in the Bible.
@123youknowitsmeSo that's kind of the truth that I live by. And in the Bible, it says, you know, you were given the law by Moses, which is the Ten Commandments. But by grace, you know, through the Son, you're shown that even if you break the Ten Commandments, You can still be redeemed, but obviously we still have people in this world who are unredeemable.
@123youknowitsmeAnd so, to some degree, I believe that we are currently living in the time of revelation, where both the law and the grace are going to be shown, and the people who deny the law and take advantage of the grace We'll be shut out forever. That's my personal belief, but we'll see what happens. Only time will tell.
@joann_marieAll right, I'm back. The microphone kept closing on itself, so sorry, guys. No, it's such a great space, and we're going to have a really cool space for 9-11 on 9-11. And also on the 7th, we're going to have, I think it's Richard Gage. That he's one of the architects who was saying to not that whatever happened in 9-11 was not possible.
@joann_marieSo it's going to be amazing. And yeah, the one in 9-11 is going to have a lot of special guests, especially Ian and Truth and a lot of really surprised ones. So it's going to be awesome. And I cannot wait for it. I hope it's as good as the one 42 years ago. It was amazing.
Speaker 1Sir, just to elaborate on what Richard Gage will present, a little preview that, look, a concrete reinforced steel beam building that's built to withstand the impact of triple the force of any airliner out there, much less an aluminum, a hollow aluminum-tipped airplane that somehow gets absorbed into that building is just physically impossible.
Speaker 1He'll be there to discuss that. He's got a background in both architecture and design for high-rises. So, yeah, and he... I interviewed him a couple years ago, and that was a great space, actually, as well. Two or three, I can't remember when it was. Him, Dan Henley from the Pilots Association. Again, I interviewed engineers, architects, pilots, and they all tell me it's physically impossible that 9-11 happened the way it did, and that whole pancake theory is BS as well.
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Ian MalcolmOh, yeah. And I remember even, JoAnn, it's funny because I guess it was three years ago when we did the 9-11 kind of super space. It was like 10 hours long or eight hours long or something like that. But Dom even got in a disagreement with people on the panel in real time about it. So we had a whole bunch of kind of truthers going back and forth.
Ian MalcolmAnd that was Dom's position was that they were it was it was essentially a hologram and that the airliners were I don't want to say laser projected, but it was some kind of like Project Bluebeam type concept. Well, it was CGI.
@markofmelb1974That's what John Lear said. It was CGI through the news networks. That's CGI. And there's two main reasons. That's what I can remember, CGI. There's two main reasons why they didn't use planes. Number one, they couldn't afford the margin for error. If for whatever reason a plane couldn't miss it or something like that, the whole plan would have gone awry.
@markofmelb1974But number two, and this is probably the real reason.
Speaker 1Before you go to number two, Mark, every single pilot... On God's green earth, they weren't all obviously talking at the same time, but there was an association that said that none of them could ever reproduce the trajectory that that pilot would have been able to do to strike. Given all the high-rises in New York, impossible without somehow hitting something at the speeds it would have been required to reach.
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@markofmelb1974Yeah, so number two is why waste money on perfectly good aeroplanes?
Speaker 9Yeah, also at the Pentagon where the... At the Pentagon also where the planes supposed to hit the Pentagon was exactly where they were conducting the investigation into the missing $2.3 trillion.
@joann_marieYeah, the accounting office.
Speaker 9And it had just been rebuilt like right before that.
@joann_marieIt's crazy. Building 7 is the craziest one. And also why they say like, oh, Building 7 is down like 20 minutes before or something like that. It's insane.
Speaker 9On BBC, I have the recording.
@joann_marieHow's that possible?
Speaker 9Yeah, BBC recorded it like 20 minutes before it came down.
@markofmelb1974This is why I can't take Brian Dawson seriously. I know he knows a lot about a lot of stuff, but when it comes to 9-11, like the dude's just, I don't know, it just seems like he's a shill on purpose. He's just wrong.
Speaker 1Yeah, you can see the point. He says Building 7 went down from spread of fires. No, spread of fires doesn't cause a controlled demolition. I'm sorry.
@joann_marieIt was of sadness. He was sad that the other buildings fell and he was like, no! And then it fell as well.
Speaker 1That's also just a coincidence. Larry Silverstein also owned Building 7. Just a coincidence.
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@markofmelb1974Why would they use any planes for any of it? I mean, that's fair.
@123youknowitsmeWhat if it doesn't take them?
Ian MalcolmAnd Mark, one that I thought was crazy was the video of, and again, it's hard to decipher truth from fiction, right? But there's the coroner in the plane in Pennsylvania that apparently walked up and he was walking away and... Some of the reporters were there and they said, you know, well, don't you have to check on something, something?
Ian MalcolmAnd the person said, well, there's nobody there. And I always found that really weird. It was like, oh, I guess he just somehow missed them or something.
@joann_marieI do not know what happened or what didn't, but I just know that the official story is absolute bullshit. And that is like, yeah, 100% did not happen, so... Yeah, but hopefully one day we do learn the truth. And this space is going to be absolutely amazing. I cannot wait. All right.
@joann_marieI don't see any more hands.
Ian MalcolmAnd Truth, were you going to open up a space as well? And if so, what was your timing looking like?
Speaker 1Yeah, I'll open up in about five, ten minutes. I'll do some of the updates on the Iran war. Trump looks like he's relying a little bit more on diplomacy because I guess he decides he doesn't really have a choice, really, depending on what officials have told him. He burned through more than half of your interceptors, over 30 of your tomahawks.
Speaker 1He cannot sustain a war of attrition against Iran. So I think really the challenge now is how to present this to the public without looking weak and like he's being conciliatory at all because, of course, he came back today and said, we obliterated everything. Speakers, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Speakers, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Teller, Raed Jamal, Rabbi [guest]-Levy, Forti__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
Speaker 1Well, a lot of vulnerabilities have been exposed. The cell tech is definitely a big one. I mean, if you believe some military analysts, which I do, they say the stealth program was sabotaged to begin with. A trillion and a half was supposed to replace the F-16s and never did. It's kind of a failed program. And now that you can just detect them through heat signature from infrared radiation, you know, they've lost their main advantage just right there.
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Speaker 1And you hear it from Alexis Scott Ritter, Colonel Workerson, Colonel McGregor, the ones willing to admit it. Some are, like John Mearsheimer, still kind of in and out. There's still a superpower, big land, you know, big land army, etc. But how are you going to do that when you're trying to invade, you know, through bases, when you have to operate through bases and through standing munitions, etc.?
Speaker 1There is no land army invasion in this case. It's possible you don't have sufficient troops. This isn't a Gulf War I where you have... Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns Speakers, IanMalcolm84, JoAnn Marie, V, Truth__Allegedly, STREET MEDIA TV, Bryce M. Lipscomb, Moneypenny, NAOMI, Shashi Learns
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Speaker 1Yeah, this has been a colossal failure, lapse in judgment, and they really should have taken more time to study the enemy, learn their culture, learn their religion. What differentiates them from Libya, Syria, Afghanistan? You just thought they're all one and the same. That was extremely ignorant and stupid. Whereas I know that guys like Colonel Wilkerson Scarborough, they understand the Shahada, they understand Shia religion.
Speaker 1They would have never done what Trump did because, well, they're not blackmailed by the Epstein class.
@markofmelb1974That's what puppets do, though. Truth, right?
Speaker 1Well, that's what compromised blackmailed agents do. Yeah, they do as they're told. Because, again, Nenyao even said today, it doesn't matter what Trump does, whether he does a deal or not, we're going to attack anyway. So all these wars are being fought for, again, Israel, and trillions of dollars have been wasted, over $20 trillion on these West Asia wars.
Speaker 1What did America gain from it? It's insanity to keep repeating the same mistakes over and over again. More people need to speak up. I'll be careful with my language here. Definitely get in the way of anyone getting recruited by the army or much less support what's happening. There's still 33% of Americans that do. I argue most of them are probably boomers, all the Gen Xs.
Speaker 1The younger generation is much more aware, which is a good sign. I got a question.
Speaker 9Why?
Speaker 9They had to have known how this was going to turn out. They couldn't win Iraq.
@123youknowitsmeWhat made them... Why? Well, let me just interject here. You know who was wise, who I believe the Jews killed? I don't know if they killed them, but Charlie Kirk. That guy was fucking... That was the only guy that I was actually scared of going head-to-head on a debate on. And he was going for Jesus, though, so I couldn't even debate against him.
@123youknowitsmeYou know, how could you debate against the Word? Because the Word is God. But what I have to say this, and I've got to go catch an Uber here in a minute, so I'm going to make it quick, is this. To fight Iran, you're essentially fighting a million, two, I don't know how many people there are. You're fighting hundreds of millions, probably.
Ian MalcolmIt's like 90 million people.
@123youknowitsme9 you're finding 90 million people who you're not even fighting a military at this point you're fighting an ideology you're fighting against like you have to commit genocide it's it's in into some degree you're bending the need to the jews which are being controlled by bb i don't even want to get into it it's sick but my point is
@123youknowitsmeYou're not going to ever see an end to this war unless you sit down with the people. It's not the IRGC. It's not anybody. It's literally the people. You got to talk to the people. You got to get to their hearts. You got to figure out what they want. And what they want is to live in peace. And what they've been seeing is their freaking family getting torn to pieces for decades since Iraq.
@123youknowitsmeThat's what you're up against. And that's the truth. And so, yeah, that's what we've gotten ourselves into. And it's scary, it's sad, it's whatever. It's fucking reality. So, yeah, that's all I have to say.
Ian MalcolmWell, all right. And, and, uh, with that being said, I know that, uh, the truth that he was going to open up. So I want to be respectful of that and get everybody excited and warmed up for that conversation. We got almost 500 people in here. So I hope everybody is going to migrate over to his spaces. I love listening to them and, uh, everything that he provides on Iran, where, uh, as you just got a little, you got a little sample.
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Ian MalcolmWho Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the end of the day for all of you to kind of take away from this conversation your
Ian MalcolmAssumptions on it, right? We were fortunate enough to have Truth in here as well, who gave kind of counterpoints to the counterpoints and some curious pieces in there, right? For example, Jack Morgan suggesting that the Jews were involved in the death of his father, perhaps some anti-Semitic views of the time for both of those men.
Ian MalcolmAnd isn't it wild that even Grok will acknowledge, well, back then you got to keep in mind basically everybody was anti-Semitic. What a weird pattern. I thought that was just a A crazy thing that emerged only in Germany because of the mustache guy. That's what my history books told me anyway. So weird how these things seem to come full circle.
Ian MalcolmWe seem to notice a lot of these similar patterns of control. And for what it's worth, I think I have to give not only Bryce credit, but also listening to Truth Teller. I think I probably walk away from this conversation with a lot of new facts I did not know, but maybe a similar position in terms of the Morgans and the Rockefellers being part of this same conversation.
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Ian MalcolmWho Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With at the end of the day, we're going to be talking about a story that was not part of this crew that kind of stood up and spoke out and did the right thing and was a success story in their own rights. And certainly Henry Ford would have fit the bill on that front. So what we need to do, right, is to kind of take lessons from that, be willing to stand up against all that is wrong, call it out when we see that which is right as Henry Ford certainly did.
Ian MalcolmWith that, I just want to thank everybody for being in here, for being part of this conversation on those two tycoons of the day and heads of industry. We will keep doing these explorations. I'm very, very curious. We're going to do them on the founding fathers. We'll continue diving through some of these historical figures.
Ian MalcolmWe will also, of course, always be diving into current events and we'll be pulling those apart. Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With __________________________
Ian MalcolmCoincidence, again, it would be to come full circle. But with that, I just want to also give an immense amount of thanks, not just to V, who's up here with us, kind of helped to keep the ship on the sea, in the lane, whatever metaphor you want to use, but also Rabbi [guest], who's in here for a long time. And as always, the incomparable Miss JoAnn, who unfortunately...
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@joann_marieOh, it was, it was a really good space and I'm getting so many messages of people like, why are you so funny? Like guys, it's okay to listen to different perspectives. You don't have to agree with them, but if you don't hear the other side, you don't, you're like, you do not know what's happening. I don't know. I like hearing, I like challenging my views and, and people are like, oh no, like guys, it's, it's fine, you know?
@joann_marieSo. Yeah, I like listening to different perspectives and that's just what it is and you don't have to agree with it anyway. Thank you so much for hosting Ian and V and Rabbi, Truth, you are like the Hulk, amazing. And I think Bryce, he seems like a really good guy and he's genuine in his beliefs and I don't agree with a lot of his stuff but I'm not going to be like NO!
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Ian MalcolmYou guys get to decide what your takeaways are, right? And that's the case with everything. Never take anything at face value and just presume that everything shared is always accurate. Always do your research, right? Take your perspective. Try to just bounce the ideas around and figure out what you come up with. But to Truth's comment, it does feel like, man, you can almost, you can turn on the news and if they're saying it's going to rain,
Ian MalcolmYou know, just leave your umbrella at home. It's the way that I interpret this stuff. But nonetheless, we will keep unpacking all of these truths. We'll try to get to the bottom a little bit more. JoAnn, I know that we've got a space that's lined up that we're bringing up next, and then we've got some next week. Anything in particular that you wanted to call out on that front before we close out?
@joann_marieLet me check. It was so awkward today. I felt like my parents were fighting. I was like, no, let's not fight. Okay. So we have tomorrow China technocracy with Terrapin Li that he's an FBI whistleblower and it's going to be awesome. Then we have on Sunday, The Book of Enoch with Mike Skinner. Then we have on August 10, Farming Space with Farmer and a bunch of numbers.
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Ian MalcolmYouTube, concert pianist, does a lot of ragtime kind of music, but built an entire following of, if I'm not mistaken, millions of people across a couple different platforms, including on YouTube and all the others, where he basically got some virality doing not only some of his ragtime performances, but in particular, coming up with original and cover songs incorporating
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@allegedly_fortiI'm so glad you guys are doing that, because that was actually one of the next people I was going to try to connect you with, Ian, was Foundry, because me and him talk sometimes, and I'm super happy to hear you guys are already connected and are going to do that space, because he's one of my favorite people on this app.
Ian MalcolmOh, it'll be so much fun. We're going to kind of integrate. It'll be musical performances with little interludes with political commentary, maybe about some of the songs, the past, the present. It should be a whole lot of fun. Speaking of that, Forti, as always, if there's ever anybody that you guys want us to try and talk to, certainly always feel free.
Ian MalcolmTag us in comments, whether it's JoAnn and myself, or feel free to just recommend individuals reach out to us directly. Always happy to do so. And I got a message from our one and only, our favorite Jew on X, Mr. Yitz, asking if I would reach out to Austin Franco. I guess he's curious to ask him some questions. I don't know if he'll take us up on the space.
Ian MalcolmWe had the snafu where he canceled on us like five minutes before.
@joann_marieI talk to Austin sometimes and I invited him again and he's just looking around. He's going through a lot of shit right now. So hopefully when things are more calm, he can come to the space. But yeah, when I was talking to him, he was literally homeless because his parents kicked him out. Yeah, let's try to... Until he settles down, hopefully he will join us.
@joann_marieHe's such a good kid.
Ian MalcolmWhenever he can, and if he can't, certainly can understand. But Yitz, if you're listening, there's your answer. But I say it because whether Jew, Gentile, right? Or what would you say? Friend or foe, right? If there's people that you want us to talk to, we are always willing to do so. And that could be individuals that we agree with, disagree with, whatever might be the case.
Ian MalcolmWe will always be open to anything and everything, including yesterday's space on The Nationalists. And I suppose I should briefly add a piece there. It was very interesting. I'm glad that we got the perspective. I was really glad that we had Ryan Dawson, who randomly popped in to talk about the 14th Amendment, something JoAnn and I were messaging in the background.
Ian MalcolmWe were like, I don't have any idea what's happening. But nonetheless, it was good to have them provide their Who Were JP Morgan & John D. Rockefeller With ______________________________
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Ian MalcolmThat some people were suggesting might have been shot down. I think that's probably just internet rumors. But nonetheless, right, lots going on in the Twitter sphere. He's one of the best, absolutely, to break that down. And so until next time, I just want to thank JoAnn again, as always. And as I always do, to say good morning, good evening, good afternoon, good night, wherever you might be in the world.
Ian MalcolmCertainly, God bless for everything that you are. Godspeed on our continued journey forward. We are winning. We will win, and I believe we have won, right? This is a done deal. We just got to keep doing what we do every single day, keep kind of walking through these truths, keep bringing them to more and more ears, and in doing so, we will win even more and more every single day.
Ian MalcolmSo lots of love to everybody. We will see you in that next space with Mr. Tara Bithian, who will be talking about the Chinese technocracy, the social credit system. And as an FBI former whistleblower, he's one of the absolute best to listen to. So we will see you in there. I'll see you in Mr. Truth Tower's room. Lots of love.
Ian MalcolmGood day. Good night. God bless as always.