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Speaker 1We control the money and the global news We will ruin their lives if we don't like their views We even stole a bunch of nuclear weapons So we can kick off World War II
Speaker 1Don't miss out, just be proactive If you worship Paul, come on, kiss the wall
@joann_marieThis is amazing. Oh, no. Joey's a genius. It's awesome. Okay, Ian, thank you so much for having me. Good morning.
Ian MalcolmSo for everybody, I saw that Joey Goode had a new song, and I listened to it. It was like, this is just unbelievable. And I said to JoAnn, whatever you do... Don't listen to it. I want your live laugh to follow after you hear it for the first time in this space. And I really, JoAnn, I don't know what to make of it, but when we are winning and when we get these big microphones and the masses start listening to this stuff, Joey Goods, there is just an anthem, right?
Ian MalcolmWe did our little attempt at what I called the space opera yesterday. I am ready for Joey Goods. Official Musical Theatrical Debut
@joann_marieI love it. And it's just everything. Everything is just absolutely perfect. And yes, I'm so happy that I waited to listen to it right now. It's awesome. We need to play it like every time. I absolutely love it.
Ian MalcolmAnd it's just banger after banger after banger after banger. And I love that one is, you know, he's got the tiny hats, which it always makes you smile and laugh. Right. And all of them. It's so wild because I don't know about you guys, but I'm sitting there, I'm kind of snapping my fingers and bopping my head and at the same time I'm thinking if your average individual that does not notice these patterns gets to hear this, right?
Ian MalcolmLike imagine if everybody in the West is going out, getting to their car to drive to work and that comes on the radio and they're just bopping along in the back of their head, they're just being told about the pedophilia and necrophilia that are just normalized. I really, you know, that piece about necrophilia, I couldn't believe that that's not a crime in Israel.
Ian MalcolmI asked Grok because I really didn't believe it the first time I saw Ryan Dawson post it. And sure enough, oh, no, that's a dead body. You can do with it what you will, which is insane, right? This is what we are dealing with. And I just it really is. It baffles me how absurd the evil is that we are in opposition to. And it also it just shocks me.
@joann_marieSorry, I was making a post. No, he's absolutely brilliant. I hope he comes back and does another space with us. And I cannot wait for... We really do need to make a musical with all of his songs. It's going to be amazing. And today's space is going to be so spicy. I can't wait. Yeah, no, it's going to be amazing. But before I forget, guys, please repost the space.
@joann_marieAnd if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and also bookmark it. It helps so much with the algorithms and follow Ian and Dr. Strange and Bryce and Official B, Daryl, Charlie, it's been so long and also Dank who is down in the listeners for putting all of Ian Malcolm's spaces on Malcolm's spaces on Rumble, on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts and on Ian Malcolm 84 and also for his awesome, awesome bots.
@joann_marieSo, no, thank you so much and I cannot wait. This is going to be such a great space.
Ian MalcolmNo, it will and the thing that I want to do to kick this off and I will do, yesterday, for anybody who joined, we did the Dangerous tour yesterday in a space which I found just very fun. I shared this with JoAnn, but long story short, I had been exercising, listening to some music, and along came a Michael Jackson song from that album.
Ian MalcolmAnd I thought, wow, isn't that pertinent to what we are experiencing? And so I went and I listened to some of the rest of the album, and I thought to myself, wow, that This song is relevant and this song is relevant. So if anybody was not able to listen to that, if you are a fan, if you're not a fan of Michael Jackson music, do not.
Ian MalcolmYou will hate it. But if you are, it was an interesting way to kind of walk through essentially about half, if not maybe two-thirds of the songs that are on that album from back in the day when musicians actually focused not just on creating an incredible song like Joey Goode has, But also putting together an album that essentially was like a tapestry of music that would tell perhaps a different story.
Ian MalcolmAnd that album certainly did. And so we walked through a bunch of the songs that were there within, kind of tied them into this overarching world that we find ourselves in. And whether it's the idea of all the dangerous elements that are around us with all the degeneracy, or how we might theoretically be dangerous to that system by showing that there is a light to the dark,
Ian MalcolmRight, whether it was that all the way, of course, to Heal the World that was off of that album, along with a whole bunch of others. So it was a really fun little space. We remembered the time, right? We talked about things that were gone too soon, all the other songs that were built in there. So it was a lot of fun. But that was an attempt to create, you know, a story, if you will, around kind of the worldview.
Ian MalcolmToday we are going to be talking about, perhaps, A unification of interests to try and right the wrongs, to try and thwart that which is dangerous. I want to come right out of the gates and to state that as I always do, my interest is to be as pragmatic as possible to overcome Jewish supremacy. To essentially intellectually and spiritually defeat it and that which it thrusts upon us.
Ian MalcolmObviously that is not all Jews that participate in Jewish supremacy. We know this. There's a whole bunch of non-Jews that are part of it. For more information visit www.fema.gov
Ian MalcolmThank you very much.
Ian MalcolmIt will rapidly become 55 and then 50 and a couple generations from now, if we don't change this, it will be 25 or 20% or 10%. That will be the exact same outcome across Western Europe. And two, three, four, five generations from now, the people that I would call the civilizations that I descend from will be gone. Not only in terms of the nations and their heritage, their statues, their art, their architecture.
Ian MalcolmBut literally their people, genetically, will disappear off the face of the earth. No different than if you took every German shepherd that's out there and you just put them into pens with pit bulls and you said, well, we're just going to let this do its thing, let nature take its course. And as we do, maybe we'll just sterilize some of the German shepherds as we go through that process.
Ian MalcolmWe'll demoralize them and tell them that they should only be with the pit bulls. You can see how very obviously the purebred German shepherds that would win the Westminster Kennel Club are going to disappear.
Ian MalcolmYou'd have the exact same thing with blue and green eyes because those are recessive traits. This is just how genetics work. Now, maybe they could come back in some kind of random offshoot. But for the most part, it's an overarching thesis. That's directionally beyond accurate. And so I say this because that is what I want to protect.
Ian MalcolmSo my interest is not to, let's say, to call for diversity forever and the clergy planification of not only our people but our religions. and our civilizations. That's not what I'm advocating for. What I'm instead doing is to recognize that if I want to save the Shire, I might need to band together with the elves and with the dwarves and with the wizards and with the anybody and everybody that will stand in opposition to the problem.
Ian MalcolmAnd the problem is Sauron and Sauron and all the other things, the orcs, if you will. They're coming for everybody. They're going to destroy everything. And isn't it funny that in Tolkien's book He even lays out that what is it that the, let's say, the evil is against. It's not just man. It's not just all those aforementioned other groups.
Ian MalcolmIt's also nature itself. That's why Soraman is destroying all of the trees to build up his army. The whole, I think it's the Ents is what they call them, the big tree people. That's why they go to war with Soraman, because he's destroying Earth. That is what this force is doing. And so we need to recognize, at least in my opinion, we need to recognize.
Ian MalcolmWe can't run away from this machine.
Ian MalcolmSo if we think that we can just build a little enclave and protect ourselves from the horde that are at the gates of our civilization, you're mistaken. I don't see any other way around this. So what does that mean? That means that we need to figure out, okay, what can we do to band together? Now, in my assertion, and I'm welcome to any and all takes, we're going to walk through this with Dr.
Ian MalcolmStrange, who has a very, let's say, not only a lot of time and attention that he's intellectually put behind this, but also he's personally attached to this For obvious reasons, right? But this idea that people can come together to recognize, look, let's band together so that we can overcome a common enemy so that we can then agree to disagree on what the future will look like.
Ian MalcolmWe can democratically come about whatever that is going to be, right? But I think at the moment, and it's so wild because you turn on the media, the Muslims are taking over, says Ben Shapiro. But the last time that I checked, there are fewer Muslims in the United States than there are Jews, especially when it comes to positions of power.
Ian MalcolmIt's a pretty small percentage of the population. And yet the media, we know who owns all of that, will tell you that they're everywhere. They're controlling everything. Sharia law is going to take over as we literally have Noahide laws already in place because of George Herbert Walker Bush, who, oh, by the way, there was a Mossad plan to prospectively assassinate him.
Ian MalcolmIsn't that crazy? I wonder why he might have signed on to those Noahide laws. Perhaps because they were threatening his life, right? But either way, whether he did it because he wanted to or because he was coerced, either way, that's already on the books. And now you've got Ben Shapiro going out and saying to a big audience, well, all you people suggest accepting Noahide.
Ian MalcolmThat's good for everybody, right? Leave out the fact that literally decapitation's on the menu if you're caught doing idol worship underneath Noahide laws. And oh, by the way, Jesus Christ is considered an idol, right? So all of us, line it up. As Ben Shapiro tells you, yeah, get your head beneath the guillotine. That's a great idea.
Ian MalcolmAnd then Ben Shapiro turns around and says, oh, no, the Muslims and Sharia law. And look, again, I don't want that. I don't want Sharia law. I want the West to remain Christian. I want it to remain essentially the white European stronghold that it once was, especially in Europe where there's no reason to reject that suggestion.
Ian MalcolmAnd for the United States to go back to a reasonable display of diversity that it would have known in the 60s, the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, all the way up until, ironically, about the era of The Matrix, where Agent Smith, of all people in the movie, he says, this was the dawn of your civilization. It was the peak of everything.
Ian MalcolmIt was as good as it was ever going to get. So this is why they forever locked people into that rendition of The Matrix, because it was the one that human beings could most accept. Well, since that peak of civilization, things are falling apart very, very rapidly. And demographics are shifting to the point that realistically whites are probably down maybe 20, 25% their representation in the general public over less than 20 years because of mass rampant unfettered migration, legal and illegal.
Ian MalcolmThat's both people coming across the borders thanks to HIAS and Alejandro Mayorkas, the Sephardic Jew. And also all of the H-1B work visa nonsense that's largely being not just supported by, but of course bolstered by, everything and anything that BlackRock gets its hands on. So they get to go out and tell all of these companies, oh, no, don't hire native people of this land.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, no. We'll set up this whole schema where you can just import millions of Indians, pay them nothing, demand they work way longer wages or hours, I should say. And to expect them that as part of that, they will get a green card. Well, off of who's back, who suffers in that situation? Obviously, it is the people of that land, right?
Ian MalcolmSo I say all of this because let's be real. If we want to reject this system, we got to work with anybody and everybody we can because we don't have the numbers otherwise, right? So let's figure out at least in, again, in my assertion, who can we band together with? That's why I don't care if they're white, black, brown, yellow, Jew, Gentile, Muslim, Christian, whatever it might be.
Ian MalcolmAnd some homosexual Jewish guy comes in here who somehow also worships Allah. And he says that he's on the side of Buddhists. And he's like, but you know, I think Jewish supremacy is a real problem. I'll be like, all right, man, come on over. Now, I might not like that lifestyle. I might not want that to be, let's say, part of the solution in the aftermath.
Ian MalcolmBut maybe we can come to an agreement that for the time being, we will look at the primary problem just like in The Lord of the Rings. And at the end of it, we can all agree to go our separate ways. And as a last little thing, some people might say, well, that's disingenuous because right now you're banding together with them and then your future, you don't want them.
Ian MalcolmBut, well, let's be real. If we don't do this, at least in my thought, we lose anyway. You lose everything. The West completely crumbles. If you need any better visual, go look at France right now. You've got basically what looks like BLM protesters that are likely sponsored by the same Jewish supremacists that funded that entire thing, like George Soros, and they're actively going around and looting everything.
Ian MalcolmThey are setting cars in entire cities on fire. Right? So do you want to sit there and you want to say, well, you know, I'm not willing to hold hands with anybody who's a different race or a different creed. I'm just going to go with my people and watch as this continues to burn to the ground. Of course not. So those are the two paths, at least as far as I can see it.
Ian MalcolmWe can stay divided and all hate each other amongst the exact same, let's say, firewalls that the Jewish supremacists want us to hate one another so that they can take the flames off of them. We can either do what they have been doing for decades and not make any progress, or again, in my assertion, we can just figure out that for the time being, we will deal with one another as best we can.
Ian MalcolmAnd no different than Malcolm X and George Lincoln Rockwell. What a weird pairing that was. And they were willing to both be able to say, you know what? We'll come together for the time being to speak out against these problems because maybe we've got more in common in terms of the things that are destroying our communities than we do in opposition to one another.
Ian MalcolmSo again, I just want to be very, very, very clear about that. Because a lot of detractors come in, oh, you just want to make this to move them. No, they're lying to you. That is not my vantage point or my vision. But that is what they have to try to do to undermine what it is that we're doing. Simultaneously, all of those other groups will say, oh, well, he's a racist and a bigot, which is really funny, because which one is it?
Ian MalcolmAm I the person that's willing to put aside the bygones for the time being to solve the problem, or I'm the racist who hates everybody if they're slightly different? Obviously, both of those are false detractors. And why? Because they can't address our message. This is it. This is, in my assertion, it's the solution, again, for the time being.
Ian MalcolmIt's not the ideal, the ideal in my mind anyway. Again, it goes back probably to the 60s, 70s. Maybe that's reasonable, right? Maybe that's an aspiration that we can have. Maybe we can actively see that in our lifetime if we get the power out of these psychopaths' hands and we're then able to reverse, for example, the trends of mass unfettered migration, demoralization of our people.
Ian MalcolmWouldn't it be incredible? If in 10 or 20 years we had a world in which everybody agreed to disagree on a whole bunch of things, they agreed to go back to where essentially their people, their civilizations originated from, right? We agreed to respect one another's cultures, our cuisines, our flavors, our religions, right?
Ian MalcolmYou turn on your television in this potential future, 30 years in the future, right? You're looking around at your neighborhoods. They now look somewhat homogenous again. Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThat will best address the primary problem And again, I'm incredibly convinced that this is the thing that we should be doing Because every one of the detractors wants us merely to hate one another And as more and more people awaken to the JQ What is it that they're shoving at us from every angle? The burning of the churches, the burning of the cities, the burning of the everything And who is it that's going to be on the television primed to tell you Oh, look at the Muslims It's going to be another Jewish supremacist
Ian MalcolmWe know that this is their battle plan. They even telegraphed it and they said, well, Israel's kind of gone. People are not going to come back and support it. So instead, maybe the better path forward for us is just to make everybody hate the Muslims even more. That is intentional. It is by design. Israel has telegraphed that they want to do it.
Ian MalcolmAnd so if anybody thinks that I'm, let's say, hyperbolic when I say that this is all part of their plan, well, then you're just wrong. And so as a result, perhaps they want to force this upon us because they know it's their best path to maintaining power. And if we can all agree that removing Jewish supremacy from power is the primary goal, well, then maybe the very thing that they know is their biggest asset is the thing that we should be undermining.
Ian MalcolmSo if they are going to try and make us hate one another, let's figure out how to at least put those differences aside for the time being. We've got Dr. Strange who comes from this community. Again, I'm welcome and open to all positions. Come up and tell us that I'm completely crazy. Tell Dr. Strange he's an a-hole. You can say whatever you want.
Ian MalcolmJust do it with class. So maybe don't use the term a-hole. But let's agree to disagree about a whole bunch of different things where it might make sense. But let's all try to position that through the frame and the prism of how do we fix the problem. If you think that an alliance temporarily...
Ian MalcolmIf you're able to take it and I would love to turn it over to you for introductions to this conversation.
@joann_marieThere is no Jewish supremacy going on today. We're going to go to Dr. Strange.
Ian MalcolmI have to go in one minute. If you have to go in one minute, then you can go and you cannot speak. You don't get to railroad the conversation by playing woe is me pity party. That's not how this works. I don't care if that's the case. And that might actually be perfectly demonstrative of Jewish supremacy.
Speaker 2But I was the first to waste my hand.
Ian MalcolmYes, but the special guest is Dr. Strange. All right, so hang on. So yes, oftentimes you will come into a room and you will say, I have to go. So woe is me. Please let me speak. And then two hours later, here we are still debating, right? And so here's what you get to do. You can do one of the following. You can either be respectful to Dr.
Ian MalcolmStrange, who we set this space up for, and you can patiently wait your turn. You can participate in the entirety of the conversation. Or you can have two minutes. But after those two minutes, I'm going to remove you from speaker and for the rest and the entirety of the duration of this space, you don't get to participate.
Ian MalcolmSo that is your choice. You can do either of those because I like to be respectful. So the choice is yours.
Speaker 2Yes, I'll take the second option. I don't even need two minutes because I really do have to go. But thank you. The thing I wanted to say real quick is that it's very ironic and hilarious that this space today is about the Christian-Muslim alliance. And yet everyone is decrying the Muslims burning the palace to the ground.
Speaker 2I mean, which is it? Do you support the Muslim elections or do you hate the Muslims because they're destroying everything? You have to pick a side.
Ian MalcolmHang on. We'll let Yitz go for another 90 seconds and then we can hear all the others.
Speaker 2That's all I have to say. Wait, that's it? Yeah, that's everything. You sure? Okay.
Ian MalcolmSo, all right. I respect that. And I do. Lots of love to Yitz. He's my favorite of the Jewish supremacists. But Dr. Strange, so that's an interesting setup because, I mean, obviously I'm convinced that what Yitz is describing is going to be the media's attempt to basically take the heat off of Jewish supremacy by creating the very problems that Yitz is now going to discuss.
Ian MalcolmAnd I don't want to say that these are completely fictitious riots and protests. There are certainly bad actors that come from the Muslim community and every other community. But just like with BLM, I would not be surprised if there are a pallet of bricks that are conveniently being shipped over to each one of these neighborhoods to be picked up by these rioters.
Ian MalcolmAnd if you look at the sender information, it might be a name that ends in Witz, Berg, Steen, or Soros. And so, Dr. Strange, Yitz has given basically an interesting alternative or counterposition, which is that the, let's say that the Muslims are creating contention across... All of Europe, which is a reasonable suggestion, unless perhaps you understand Jewish supremacy and that these things are largely fictitious.
Ian MalcolmBut nonetheless, it is a reasonable critique. So Dr. Strange, without further ado, over to you.
@submission2tThank you, Ian. I appreciate it. And thank you for hosting this, you and JoAnn. This is a really important discussion that many people shy away, and it often requires courage to be able to have these discussions. And I think we can have frank discussions, civil discourse. There are areas that we disagree. There are areas that we agree.
@submission2tAnd we build on that and move forward for a better future. Now, in regards to what he said about Europe, look, it doesn't take rocket science to tell you exactly what's happening in Europe. In the past five years since the Ukraine war, the economic situation in Europe has become a disaster. Meaning inflation has kept going up because energy costs are going down.
@submission2tEnergy costs are going up because of the Ukraine war. Because if you remember the pipeline that was fueling Europe was hit. There were a number of other, let's say, oil that was coming into Europe cheap is no longer there. And then with the Iran war. Thank you very much.
@submission2tThe architect behind that was none other than... What's her name in the State Department? The proponent, the lady...
@joann_marieExcuse me?
@submission2tWhat was that?
@joann_marieIs it Susie Wiles?
@submission2tNo, no, no. She was... It's on the tip of my tongue. She was there for decades, but she was the architect of the Ukraine war. But nonetheless, now we're in the war with Iran, which has further... Thank you for joining us.
@submission2tThank you very much.
@submission2tA key reason of the cost of living skyrocketing this year is the Iran war. And who got us into the Iran war? Well, none other than Israel. So if you want to blame anyone, look at the root cause of where it started. Are there refugees that have entered into this mix? Absolutely, and they're usually utilized by others for their own nefarious purposes.
@submission2tTheir objective is just to be able to, you know... Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThank you for having me.
Ian MalcolmAnother piece is, for example, this. I've seen the visual screenshot of a couple different things. One is this idea of the Jews architecting Islam as prospectively an offshoot or a way to undermine Christianity. I'd be curious for your thoughts on that one. I think it's worth addressing. The other is this idea of Jews being able to worship within mosques.
Ian MalcolmI don't know if that's some pill-pull and maybe a roundabout way that they're trying to link those two things together. And it was Victoria Nuland?
@submission2tI mean, it's one of the most horrific wars in Europe where hundreds of thousands of young men who've been basically pushed into a war that benefits not the Ukrainians, not the Russians, but it benefits a select few, and it's been a disaster. Now, regarding, I do want to go back to what you said earlier, Ian, and I wanted to provide you the, I guess, the Muslim or Islamic position on race, right?
@submission2tBecause this is important, and this is what I subscribe to. Growing up in the U.S., you know, as many of us have already witnessed, I found something really odd. You know, we've got these celebration months for African-American or Black American month. You've got Hispanic American month. You've got Jewish American month.
@submission2tAnd the list goes on. But if somebody were to ever say White American month, it's considered racist. There's something wrong. That doesn't add up, right? Why are you not allowed to be proud of your race and heritage? God made you that way. Are you against God? God made you who you are. If you are proud of what God has made you, there shouldn't be anything wrong with that.
@submission2tSo I... God created the white race, God created all the races, and we should cherish and preserve each and every one of them. We should not put one above the other in the way that it's kind of being done now. So I respect people who are proud of their background, their heritage, their race. And if somebody is proud of being white and wants to preserve their heritage and race, there's nothing wrong with that.
@submission2tThe only issue I have is that when you, or not you specifically, when one group of people think they're better than the others, they're more supreme than the other races, that's where you, there's definitely areas of strengths that people have that races have, and then there's areas of weaknesses. So that's my, that is the, I would say the Islamic position or the Muslim position, and that's my position.
@submission2tNow, Going back to what you were saying regarding, you mentioned two things. What were the two items? One was Jews bringing in mosques.
Ian MalcolmThe idea that Islam is essentially an undermining force that was set up by the Jews. I'm sure everybody's seen that viral post that looks at some medieval texts that would make that assertion. And then the other piece is the idea of Jews prospectively being able to worship within Mosques and being treated as kind of open doors to them.
Ian MalcolmAnd it's worth noting that as a critique that I don't think any of the Catholic or Christian churches would necessarily throw somebody out because they are Jewish, right? So it's perhaps maybe a little bit of a strange argument, but nonetheless, it's one that's flying on the timeline. So I thought I'd ask you.
@submission2tYeah, there's no basis for any of this stuff, right? I've also come across of how Catholics created Islam. And when you Dig deep into it. These are all fabricated stuff. And then when you look at the history of... When Islam came to be in Mecca, there were no Jews in Mecca. When the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, came with the message of Islam, there was no Jews whatsoever.
@submission2tThere was one Christian, but there were no Jews in Mecca. There were Jews in Medina, Thank you for joining us.
@submission2tbecause of that betrayal, they were essentially kicked out of Medina. So the Quran specifically states that they, so I was going to go into this in a little bit, but we can jump into it now. The Quran looks at Jews and Christians as people of the book because the Islamic belief and understanding is that God sent Over 124,000 or 124,000 prophets to mankind with the same message from the beginning of time when Adam was put on earth until the last prophet, which was Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.
@submission2tSo therefore, Jesus, peace be upon him, Moses, Abraham, these were all prophets of God sent with the same message. And there are 25 prophets mentioned in the Quran. So there are similarities between Christianity and Islam. I would say Islam and Judaism. Some similarities, there are differences as well. But that's not to say that somehow this was concocted by Jews.
@submission2tThere's nothing, there's absolutely no merit to it. There's nothing, there's no evidence to it. There's no documentation of how this happened. And as I mentioned to you, historically, they had a lot of issues. If the Jews were basically behind this, then why would the Muslims turn around? Wouldn't they have turned around and said, created at the time, created something similar to what you have with Christian Zionism, where they would have turned around and concocted the religion to say, if you bless the Jews, then you will be blessed, right?
@submission2tIf you bless the State of Israel, that never happened. This is all bullshit. Obviously, for their own nefarious purposes, they're pushing this, but there's no basis for this. I don't know if that answers the question, Ian. But I would think that, again, if the Jews concocted Islam, they would have made sure that Islam was somehow subservient to Jews and looked up to the Jews and did the same thing as what Christian Zionists do.
@submission2tThat's not the case at all. In fact, In fact, the Quran specifically says that, let me bring it up. It says, you will surely find the Jews and the polytheists to have the most animosity towards you. That's not to say that Muslims should hate them. It makes a prediction that the polytheists, or polytheists, And the Jews will have the most animosity against you.
@submission2tAnd then it goes on. The polytheists are the Christians, you know that, right? No, no, it does not refer to the Christians as polytheists in the Qur'an. There's nothing.
@sharafifursanExactly.
@submission2tIt refers to them as people of the book. Now, the polytheists would be Hindus, for example, people who worship, you know, commit idolatry. That's why Muslims are allowed to marry Christians. Yeah, Blue Sky, can you mute your mic, please? Thank you. I appreciate the feedback. The verse, let me bring up the verse. I apologize.
@submission2tI don't want to butcher the verse.
@submission2tYou will surely find the most intensive people and animosity towards Muslims to be the Jews and those who associate others with God. meaning the polytheists. And you will find the nearest of them in affection to the Muslims, those who say we are Christian. That is because amongst them are priests and monks and because they're not arrogant.
@submission2tNow, while we're on that topic, the first, so Islam's position and views towards Christianity, has always been very positive from the very beginning. When the Muslims were being persecuted in Mecca, they needed a place of refuge. So the Prophet, peace be upon him, sent a group of 70 people to what's now Ethiopia. And he said, there's a good, righteous, just Christian king.
@submission2tHe will give you refuge. So they went in and they were given refuge. And the Christian king was very good to them. So that started a very positive, from the very get-go, there was a very positive engagement. Subsequently, even when the Byzantine Empire was fighting the Persians and the Muslims were rooting for the Byzantine Empire because they were Christian and they were looked upon as brethrens in faith.
@submission2tWhen a group of Christians visited Medina, visited the Prophet, peace be upon him, in Medina, and it was time for their prayer, the Prophet offered his mosque so they can pray in his mosque, and they prayed in his mosque. There is a covenant of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, with Christians, and I'd actually like to play that for you.
@submission2tBear with me.
@submission2tDr. Strange Oh, my apologies. I was on mute. I kept talking to myself.
Ian MalcolmJoAnn, I was thinking the same thing.
@submission2tSo I'm about to play something for you folks. This is the covenant of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, with Christians. This was written 1400 years ago. And this was preserved by Christians, not Muslims. But sadly enough, you'll never hear this on mainstream media because the media is... Do you know about the letter that Prophet Muhammad wrote to the Christian monastery vowing to protect him and take care of him?
@submission2tThis was 1400 years ago. You see how our politicians are speaking now about a religious war? And people are blindly following those politicians. But let me read you this letter. This is a message from Muhammad ibn Abdullah. As a covenant to those who adopt Christianity, near and far, we are with them. Verily I, the servants, the helpers, and my followers defend them.
@submission2tFor more information visit www.fema.org
@submission2tThey are my allies and I secure a charter against all that they hate. No one is to force them to travel or oblige them to fight. The Muslims are to fight for them. If a female Christian is married to a Muslim, it is not to take place without her approval. She is not to be prevented from visiting her church to pray. Their churches are to be respected.
@submission2tThey are neither to be prevented from repairing them nor their sacredness or their covenants.
@joann_marieNo one nation, Muslims, is to disobey this covenant until the end of times. We are there to protect them, and as you see many beautiful churches till this day,
@submission2tAnd Palestine, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan have been preserved for centuries by Muslims. So when you hear these politicians speak of a religious war and it's us versus them, don't listen. Focus on humanity. Focus on the people. And may anyone who's done oppression to people face God at the end of the day. That was a short clip.
@submission2tAnd the sad reality is this is something you'll never hear in the media. This is something that people don't even know about. But the reality is that this document, till today, has been preserved. The actual document is preserved. It's not.
@natnewsnetworkIt's a forgery. It's a known forgery. It's not, Veritas. It's not one single letter preserved after the 9th century.
@submission2tThe Christians preserved this. Do you know that it's the Christian monastery that has preserved this?
@natnewsnetworkYeah, exactly. That's where they forged it.
@submission2tWhy would they... Why wouldn't the Muslims come out against it?
@natnewsnetworkLook, look, look.
@submission2tHold on, Veritas. Hold on. You're jumping in. Let me finish. There's also a hadith, an authentic hadith of the Prophet, peace be upon him, that says that any Muslim who harms a Jew or a Christian will have Muhammad as their advocate on the Day of Judgment. There's nothing in the Quran that says to go hate or fight against Christians.
@submission2tThere's nothing in there negative against Christianity. So the merit of this letter is authentic. And again, when you say forged, give me your evidence. That being said, moving on.
@submission2tOkay. Something else that people don't realize is that obviously, The story of Jesus, peace be upon him, is mentioned throughout the Qur'an in multiple chapters. And there's a dedicated chapter for Mary. She's considered the most revered woman in all of humanity for Muslims. And she's mentioned by name in the Qur'an. The only woman that's mentioned by name from what I recall.
@submission2tAnd Islam confirms the miraculous birth of Jesus, peace be upon him. That Mary was not touched by any man. And it further expands on his miraculous birth, that he was able to speak when he was a baby, like a young little infant. And he was able to perform certain miracles, that he was the Word of God, and that he is referred to as Messiah, but...
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@submission2tHistory as it mentioned in the Quran. You'd be an unbeliever if you did not believe in Jesus. And if you disrespect him, if you don't love him and you don't, if you disrespect him in any way, you're committing a major sin and you will be, you'll pay for it in hell. So that's why you'll never find a Muslim disrespecting Jesus, peace be upon him.
@submission2tNow, I'm not saying that it's the same as Christianity. Obviously not. We don't believe that he was the son of God. We don't believe that he was, you know, Dr. Strange, can we just check on Ian really quick? Ian, you there? I hope it's working. Can you hear me, Joann? Yes, you're good, man.
Ian MalcolmI've had, since you had the connection thing, I've had to close the app altogether like four or five times. The audio just completely seizes. I don't know why. Well, actually, maybe I do know why. They don't want us having this conversation, perhaps. But I'll just keep resetting it. But if you do suddenly ask a question and I'm not responding, just know that that would be the reason.
Ian MalcolmIt's just the app acting up.
@natnewsnetworkCan you real quick tell me where in the Quran it is said that Jesus is the son of God?
@submission2tIt doesn't say he's the son of God.
@natnewsnetworkExactly.
@joann_marieNobody's claiming that. VeritasX, nobody's claiming that.
@submission2tIt says he's the word of God. It says that he's Messiah. He says that he will return back to kill the Antichrist. That's from an Islamic position. But it doesn't say he's the son of God. And that when he comes back, Everyone would be under his banner. All believers will be under his banner. Now, the point I'm trying to get at is that there's one important point that needs to be mentioned.
@submission2tThe Islamic perspective of prophethood is unique in the sense that prophets were sent by God with the same message to... Sorry. With the same message for people, for humanity to pursue the purpose of life. God, in Islam, the prophets were role models for people to emulate to achieve the purpose of life. And what is the purpose of life?
@submission2tThat needs to be understood. From the Islamic position, the purpose of life hinges around three key things. A transformative journey of self-development to essentially develop noble character. And then it also states that it entails challenges, struggles. And then third, that you will need, you will have the third purpose.
@submission2tI apologize, my mind's all over. The third purpose is to have an intimate, loving relationship with God. As you're going through this journey. So this transformative journey of self-development is for you to develop key characteristic traits, such as being forgiving, such as being loving, kind, gentle, merciful, generous, patient, and the list goes on.
@submission2tAnd these are the very names of God in Islam, meaning God has famous 99 names.
@submission2tAnd essentially, you're there to develop some of the same characteristics that God has, some of the same traits that God has, essentially. God has those names, and God is forgiving. God wants you to be forgiving. God is the just. God wants you to be just. And this is part of your journey as you're going through this life.
@submission2tThere are eight doors of heaven in Islam. Many of those doors of heaven are for key character traits. If you excel in generosity, then that door is open to you. If you excel in being patient, perseverantly patient, that door opens to you if you are able to control your angle. I'm going on and on. I don't want to derail the space.
@submission2tBut my point here is that this is our understanding of prophethood, that they came with the best of character for people to emulate. So Jesus, peace be upon him, had these same characteristics. And he went through some of life's most difficult challenges. So as he went through these difficult challenges, Humanity or humans are to emulate how he lived his life.
@submission2tAnd in this case, the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. There are a lot of stories of the prophets mentioned, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and others, on key challenges that they went through and the specific prayers they made to God that's mentioned in the Quran. And then a lot of Muslims use those prayers when in time of need.
@submission2tI'll land that part there, but I want to go on to the other part, which is how Islam was operationalized. And this is what many people don't know because it's not really taught. When the Levant, which is now what we call Middle East and North Africa, was a Christian majority for some 500 years, even though it was governed by Muslims.
@submission2tAnd again, don't take my word for it, go look it up. The majority of the people living there were Christians. They had their own courts. They ate pork, they drank alcohol, while Muslims were not allowed to do this. But it was governed by Muslims. The area was governed by Muslims. Prior to the Muslim taking over that region, the Levant was basically the playground
@submission2tThey were then used on the front lines to go fight. And their life was miserable for hundreds of years because of this back and forth between the Byzantine Empire and the Persian Empire. Interestingly enough, when the Muslims took over, for the first time after a long time, they had peace, meaning there was no trampling on, there was no wars in that area for many hundreds of years between the Byzantine Empire and the Persian.
@submission2tSo they actually, relatively speaking, they actually fared better than what was happening before. It was a time of eaten or be eaten, so nonetheless, the Muslims rose and took over that region. Now, furthermore, they were not conscripted to go fight in the front lines. What people don't realize is that back then, what a lot of empires did was they would take your son, they would take one of your childs,
@submission2tThank you for your time.
@submission2tRelatively speaking, compared to what was happening before, and compared to how when the Muslims took over, what happened, I believe they were better off. And this is not me saying, they're Christians who are from that region, who've written documents that still have been preserved, where they say that their lives improved under Muslim governance.
@submission2tBecause prior to that, it was constant war between the... Persians and the Byzantine Empire.
@submission2tFor thousands of years, even though it was Christianity, they fought amongst each other. The desire for man to pursue wealth, power, lust, has always driven them to do terrible things. And that's not any different from other groups. But when you look at Islam itself, it's never been, there's nothing in Islam that,
@submission2tThe Christians and Muslims in terms of shared values are closer to each other than any other two religions. But obviously with all the fear-mongering and hate that's been pushed for decades because of the forever war, we're conditioned to not see that partly because we don't know the history of how things happen. You know what?
@submission2tI will... Thank you very much.
Ian MalcolmWell, on that, the Byzantine Empire. So can you give me your thoughts on essentially how that would have played into this dynamic? Because I do know, obviously, they were very specific with their rules and regulations around the Jews. And of course, the Eastern Roman Empire was the, you know, kind of the longest lasting modern empire, essentially since the time of Christ.
Ian MalcolmAnd so it's something that I look to a lot trying to think, well, Why was that so successful? Obviously, it might have something to do with the usual suspects and their lack of ability to have influence in politics, academia, finance, all these other aspects. What would have been the Muslim integration there from a political standpoint in terms of the theology, if that makes sense?
@submission2tNo. Can you further elaborate on that?
Ian MalcolmWell, because you're talking about that time period and perhaps ways in which there were peace between these two groups. Thank you for joining us.
@submission2tThank you for having me.
@submission2tI would say that the Muslim on Muslim wars have been more... Let me actually say it this way. If we look at history, the Christian on Christian war and the Muslim on Muslim war has been more prevalent and more deadly than the Christian on Muslim or Muslim on Christian. Does that make sense, Ian?
Ian MalcolmYeah, it does. And it's maybe a decent way to... So this next section and segment that you wanted to go into, perhaps we could go to some questions from the audience before going there, or do you think that that might derail things? Okay, perfect. So why don't we go down and look, I assume that perhaps Veritas might have some strong opinions on this, and so maybe the way that I would do this before we go to some of the other hands is just to go to Veritas from a fact-checking standpoint.
Ian MalcolmIs there anything that Dr. Strange was presenting that seems wildly Veritas? Yeah, thank you. I don't even know where to start here. First, you mentioned
@natnewsnetworkIan, in your speech in the beginning, the white city will never fall. You made the parallel to the Lord of the Rings. Who went to help the white city? It was Rohan and the elves and the ghosts of the past, right? Nobody else. Correct. And that's the same situation that we are in. Nobody will come to help us. And I think I'm nothing personal here, Dr.
@natnewsnetworkStrange. I think you might be genuinely thinking what you're saying here. But to me, it seems like Takiyah, right? The concept of lying and coercion and gaslighting when it is beneficial to have a temporary alliance. When did Jews and Muslims actually fight? They never did. And I don't want to go into the Islam is a Jewish psyop tirade that I could go on for like two hours.
@natnewsnetworkBut the Quran was written by 10 rabbis, right? That helped the alleged Muhammad.
@joann_marieThat's the dumbest psyop ever, Benitez. Like, come on, like, look into it now.
@natnewsnetworkThere's 17, the 7th, 18th century Yeah, I have read about the 10 sages and it's absolute bullshit May I ask, who are the 10 rabbis?
@submission2tCan you give me their names?
@joann_marieIt's the 10 wise sages No, I don't have them Oh, you don't have them, but you're willing to make that claim They found these papers in the late 1800s, like 1890 or something like that Yeah, from the 9th century And it's obviously another Jewish sire, Veritas, like stop falling for that shit
@natnewsnetworkNo, no, that's quite on point. Because when you actually look at the history between Muslims and Islam, you've seen that there has always been a deep interconnection.
@submission2tWait, I'm getting lost, Veritas. The entire thing is literally undermining other religions.
@joann_marieIt's absolutely insane.
@submission2tJoann, you said the history between Muslims and Islam? What are you saying, Veritas? I'm lost.
@natnewsnetworkThe History of Islam and Christianity has been a 1000 year conquest. It started in the 7th century.
@natnewsnetworkAnd they started invading basically all of the Christian world in the Mediterranean Sea. And it stopped only in 1683. So it was 1000 years of constant wars, constant battles against Christians. And basically everything you said was ahistorical. There is the concept of devshirme, the practice of stealing boys to train them for the Muslim armies.
@natnewsnetworkOnce taken, the boys were brought to the capital and forcibly converted to Islam, given new names. They were placed in Turkish or Muslim families to learn the language, culture, and then underwent military training to fight their own families. That was one of the major concepts. Basically, every single nobility From any region that they conquered, the same principle.
@submission2tWait, you said this is an Islamic thing?
@submission2tVeritas? Yes. Where in the Quran or Hadith is there for you to do this? Can you point me to anything in the Quran or Hadith?
@natnewsnetworkI can read you the Surah At-Tawwa, that's 929. Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the last day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and his messengers have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the scripture, the Jews and the Christians. Fight the combatants until they give the jizr willingly while they are humble.
@submission2tOkay, do you want to read the verse before and after?
@natnewsnetworkWe can go through all of the Quran. Which of the current 37 different versions are you referring to?
@submission2tDon't jump, don't jump. Let's stick to one claim at a time because you're jumping all over. Let me actually pull it up so this way we're looking at the same thing. In the meantime, Ziad, if you want to say something, go ahead and then I'll pull up the verse.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, I can read also Zura al-Baqarah. That's to 190.
@submission2tNo, no, no, Veritas. We're not going to jump around like a caterpillar all over the place. You made a claim. I told you.
Ian MalcolmJust adding some levity.
@submission2tOkay, good to know. I asked you, you made a claim and I said, you said that children were basically stolen and then converted and then they were forced to fight against their own family. And I asked you where in the Quran or Hadith states that, and you jumped to something completely different.
@natnewsnetworkI didn't claim that it is written in the Quran to have this exact... Yeah, well, it might not be written in the Quran.
@briciusxIt is historical fact that the Ottoman Empire and many parts of the Muslim Empire stole Christian children.
@submission2tBricius, let's make sure we raise our hands because there are other people here as well. And I'm not denying that this happened or did not happen.
Ian MalcolmDr. Strange, really quickly, I just want to let everybody know I have no finger on the mute trigger. And so I'm just letting Dr. Strange kind of manage this ship. But what I would ask is two things. For everybody that's throwing things in, Please just keep your hand raised where you can because otherwise this can devolve very quickly into a free-for-all.
Ian MalcolmThe other thing is let's try, and everybody's going to be familiar with my spaces, knows that I like this. Let's try like we would play with the Jewish supremacists that we have a statement and a response and a retort. And what I mean by that is if a claim is made, let's investigate it to the thoroughest of our abilities rather than jumping onto another one because, for example, it feels like Veritas made a suggestion.
Ian MalcolmThank you very much.
@natnewsnetworkOkay, what's to interpret there in the Surah At-Taba? Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the last days and so on. What's there to misinterpret?
@submission2tBecause it does not say to go fight Christians because they're Christian. It says to... Again, if you don't understand... Those who do not believe in Allah.
@natnewsnetworkChristians do not believe in Allah.
@joann_marieAllah is God in Arabic, Veritas.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, it's a different God.
Speaker 3No, it's not a different God. I say Allah. It's the same God.
Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on, hang on. I'm not going to hit the mute button, but this is exactly what 60 seconds ago I was trying to avoid, right? We can get into the free fall. Veritas.
@natnewsnetworkGod is the title, right?
@submission2tVeritas, let me explain it to you.
@natnewsnetworkDo you call Allah Yahweh?
@submission2tLet me explain it to you.
@natnewsnetworkDo you call Allah Yahweh? No, let me explain it to you. Me neither!
@submission2tIt is settled.
@joann_marieI don't kill God that way.
@submission2tWhen Muslims basically became a state, one of the first things that they did was they fought... They went and fought other Muslims. Other Muslims. Do you know why they fought the other Muslims?
@submission2tVeritas?
@natnewsnetworkWhen exactly?
@submission2tDuring the time of Abu Bakr. He was the first Khalifa. When he came in, when the Prophet, peace be upon him, died, he came in to rule. And the first thing he did was he went and fought other Muslims. Do you know why he fought other Muslims? Tell me. Because they did not want to give the tax. They refused to pay Zakat, the tax.
@submission2tDo you understand?
@natnewsnetworkAnd that's something that should be considered a pro-Muslim argument here?
@submission2tNo, but I'm trying to tell you. Listen, listen, listen. You asked a question. Let me explain it to you. Don't interrupt me while I'm trying to explain something. What I'm trying to tell you is that at that time, If a land was essentially conquered, you had to pay taxes, regardless of whether you were Muslim or Christian.
@submission2tAnd I'm trying to tell you that the Muslims at that time fought Muslims because they did not pay taxes. So why would it be different for others? Even George Washington, one of the first acts he did when he became president
@submission2tto go fight a group of people who weren't willing to pay taxes in Pennsylvania. Common day Pennsylvania. So this is not a religious war. It was basically anybody who did not want to pay taxes. They were then a war would be declared upon you or they would go in. And these were communities. It wasn't like they were an individual who said, I didn't want to pay taxes.
@submission2tThere were communities that decided that if they didn't want to pay taxes. So I hope that clarifies it.
@natnewsnetworkIt's again ahistorical because one of the main reasons was apostasy and renunciation of Islam and false prophets.
@submission2tWhat do you mean by ahistorical?
@natnewsnetworkYou're leaving out parts, right? Where it is beneficial to your narrative.
@submission2tWhat am I leaving out? I told you that the Levant, and this is a historical fact, the Levant was Christian majority for 500 years, even though it was ruled by Muslims. It was governed by Muslims. If Islam was there to basically kill or convert or subjugate everybody, it would have happened easily in those 500 years. But they didn't.
@submission2tThey had their own courts.
@natnewsnetworkThe Arabian Peninsula was majority Jewish.
@submission2tNo, that's not true.
@natnewsnetworkYou're making up stuff. What's the kingdom of Himya? The Jewish kingdom of Himya.
@submission2tYou're making up stuff, Veritas.
@natnewsnetworkThat is in modern-day Yemen and Saudi Arabia.
@submission2tVeritas in Saudi Arabia. Do you know your history? I do. In Saudi Arabia, there were three Jewish tribes. And they were all lived in Medina. And these tribes, initially, when the Prophet moved to Medina, he was invited by the Aus and the Khazraj, who were non-Jews, but they were allied with the Jews living in Medina. The Aus and the Khazraj were the majority there.
@submission2tThe three Jewish tribes were small in size, but they were there living with the Aus and the Khazraj.
@natnewsnetworkWhen they moved in there... Yeah, that's wrong. I'm talking about Himya. That was like 50 years before Islam emerged.
@submission2tZiad, did you want to make a comment? It was a huge Jewish kingdom.
@thelevantinemanOkay, Veritas, we're... We can go for hours. With all due respect, we... Go ahead, Ziad. Yeah, look. I'm a Christian. I live amongst Muslims. We've always had debates. This is the beauty of each religion. At the end of the day, if we dig into literature, we're going to find things that contradict. There are time and space for the context of whatever is written.
@thelevantinemanAnd then we will kind of do ourselves a disfavor in terms of Christian-Muslim alliance. I've read the Quran. There's nothing in it. But things that made me very happy to see that Muslims believe such as they believe that Jesus Christ is the most special character actually according to the Quran. He is the most, if you will, miracle-like, God-related, not just a simple prophet.
@thelevantinemanThat pleases me so much. That is very much enough for me. to go into thinking of an alliance. The other one is the whole chapter about the Virgin Mary. The Quran proves to me and helps me also feel in my heart that my religion in terms of my faith in Christ and what is the Virgin Mary and the view of life and the moral values and everything confirms to be
@thelevantinemanThat it is definitely aligned. And it also confirmed to me that if I assume that this book is inspired by God, it is the God that I believe in. Now, Allah is the Arab. Actually, Jesus Christ said, Allahi, Allahi, li ma shabaqtani, God, you know, God. So, Allahi, it's Allah. So, it's the evolution from Aramaic to Arabic, Allah.
@thelevantinemanMy grandmother, who has never missed a Sunday in her life, she says, Allah, the priest in the Orthodox Church, that is, you know, some of the most ancient churches, because Jesus Christ performed miracles on my land in Lebanon, you know, some of the apostles, or at least one I can confirm, is buried on the land. The apostles, the students of Christ, the first people that met him and took on the message were from that land, in the Levant, on the Galilee, in Nazareth, in Bethlehem.
@thelevantinemanSo it was very important for me to see that the Quran does I also believe in many of the things, especially my view of what Jesus Christ is. That is enough for unity. And then if I bring the us to today, what are we facing? Who is the enemy? Who are the people that we say or the state or the nation, whatever the group that we call across the board, the enemies of humanity or the enemies of God?
@thelevantinemanNot only that, who are the people intent on bringing this clash between Muslims and Christians? Who are the people who control the media and many of the Western countries that have been whipping this Muslim hate since 9-11? And what do they want? Disunity. So I, for me, I will get over myself and the little differences here and there to find something to say that this group is bad or that group is bad because it is time for us to unite, especially what we're facing.
@thelevantinemanWe are talking about possibilities. Serious geoanalysts and geopoliticians are talking about possibility of nukes flying. So it is time for alliance. It is a Sunday. It is a blessed day. And I'm going to quote my favorite quote in the Quran and then I'm going to hand over the mic. That's chapter 5, number 82. It says, Thou will find the strong... No, you know what?
@thelevantinemanI'm going to read it in Arabic first. لَتَجِدَنَّ أَشَدَّ النَّاسَ عَدَاوَةً Because I speak Arabic, see? You can chill, nothing is going to go kaboom. That's a joke. Anyway, I'll change to English now. So, it says, Meaning the people who believe. Who?
@thelevantinemanTo those who heed warning, the rabbinic Jews and the idolaters, and thou will find the nearest of them in love. To those who heed warning, those who say, quote, we are Christians, for it is that among them are priests and monks, and that they wax not proud. For me, Because I'm biased, I'd say the Orthodox Christians, but I believe also the Catholics and anyone who believes in Christ.
@thelevantinemanAnd that is a verse, chapter 582, when the Quran is telling the people who heed warning, meaning the people who submit, the Muslims, as the Quran asks them to submit. There wasn't a group called Muslims. There wasn't a brand called Islam when the book came. It just said, submit. We submit, they call themselves Muslims as in they submitted.
@thelevantinemanSo it tells them, the book tells them very clearly.
@thelevantinemanNearest of them in love to those who heed warning and submit. Those who say we are Christians for it is that among them are priests and monks and they wax not proud. That's enough for me to understand that Islam and Christianity are together just like we live in my side of the world. Not one church was ever destroyed by any Muslims.
@thelevantinemanThat is why our churches are 1,700 and 1,600 and 800 and 900 years old. So I just wanted to insist that. Thank you, Ian, for this great space. I think this is the time for this sort of alliance. JoAnn, thank you, and Dr. Strange, thank you.
@submission2tThank you, Ryan. You know, to your point, I had no idea that there were three churches in Gaza. Gaza had a 1,000 Christian population. And this was under Hamas, the terrorists who want to kill everybody, right? These, in the past 20 years since Hamas was in control, they didn't go around killing Christians in Gaza. They didn't go around blowing up mosques in Gaza.
@submission2tActually, they were protected. They lived there. In fact, the Christians of Gaza were in support of Hamas. They're in support of the Palestinian cause. This is what they don't tell you. And guess what happened to those three churches that were in Gaza? Right? Do you want to tell them? They were all bombed by the Israelis.
@joann_marieAlso, the Holy Sepulchre in Palestine has been under Muslims. They take care of it for like 400 years.
@natnewsnetworkWhat you're leaving out is that between the 7th and 20th century, many churches were completely destroyed, right? In Jerusalem...
@submission2tVeritas. Yeah, I know you don't want to.
@natnewsnetworkYou only want your side of the story.
Ian MalcolmSo, Dr. Strange, let's let go ahead. Let's let him let's let Veritas have a minute or two and provide a counterpoint. I sincerely want two things out of this. I want us to be able to go through the history on some of these dynamics, which I think Dr. Strange is doing a really good job. And then I also want to infuse into this the the possibility of the alliance and also
Ian MalcolmFor the time being, it might just be the best path forward if we're going to try and be reasonable because the alternative is Gaza for everybody, or at least that's my belief on it. But Veritas, why don't you take a minute or two and provide a counterpoint? And if we can please limit the interruptions of one another, that would be great.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, the claim that Muslims preserved Christian structures throughout the history is partially true, but they destroyed vast amounts of churches, basilicas, all throughout the centuries, right? Damascus was completely de-Christianized. Jerusalem in the 11th century, the Fatimid Caliph, Okay, okay, okay, okay. Lots of love to everybody, but let's try to minimize the interruptions.
Speaker 3So we'll go back to Veritas, and then we'll go 30 seconds from Rayed before we go to the next speaker so he can challenge anything shared.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, thank you. In Niger, 2015, after riots because of some caricatures, about 70 churches were killed, were destroyed and set ablaze. Egypt, 2013, about 40 to 80 churches were burned down.
@submission2tVeritas, can you give me...
@natnewsnetworkAfter blasphemy allegations, several churches and Christian quarters were completely burned down and attacked by mobs. Sudan, in the current war, more than 160 Christian churches destroyed. In the Syrian war, more than 70 churches destroyed. So it's an ongoing and ongoing process. Yes, I get it. Most of the times Jews have been running the show in Islamic countries.
@natnewsnetworkThat goes back to basically the founding of Islam. Islam has always been the broom of the Jews. They've always been instigated by them. They've always been utilized by them. The Jews ran basically all the merge trades in They have always been very deep into Muslim societies. A good example is Maimonides, the most important Jewish scholar and the
@natnewsnetworkThe rabbi that finalized or canonized the Mishnahs. He was the personal advisor and theological advisor of Salahuddin. So Islam has been, until Zionism started in the Middle East, interconnected with Jews and the Muslims for basically since the inception of Islam. It is indistinguishable at this point.
Ian MalcolmWe went way past the 60 seconds. So Veritas' position basically is that these things are more or less one and the same, or so it feels. Why don't we go to... Actually, it looks like Rod's not here anymore. So, Dr. Strange, do you want to provide a counterpoint to that suggestion? Then we'll go to the next speaker.
@submission2tSure. Look, in recent history, especially in the last 20 years, a lot of what you hear is... I would say media propaganda to push the forever wars. That's just the sad reality of it. So if you want to tell me that this happened in Egypt, then give me your sources and facts, because oftentimes when I look into this, it turns out to be it ends up being a fabricated piece of information that's being pushed by none other than Israel or Zionists for their own nefarious purposes.
@submission2tNow. Going back to what I was saying earlier, in chapter 22, verse 40, the Quran says, Had God not checked some people by means of others, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which God's name is mentioned abundantly would surely have been torn down. God will certainly help those who help his cause. God is all strong and almighty.
@submission2tAnd then when Muslims were, according to, again, legal, even if you want to go down to the word using Sharia, when you go into the details of Sharia or codes of conduct of war, when Muslims were basically out to go fight, among many other things, they were specifically forbidden to ever attack a house of worship, churches or monasteries.
@submission2tFor more information, visit www.fema.org
@submission2tChristianity took over Spain. How many mosques were allowed to stay? Do you know the answer to that, Veritas? How tolerant were Christianity towards Muslims who lived in Spain? Zero.
@natnewsnetworkAfter 700 plus years of Muslim conquests, is that surprising?
@submission2tThese people were... I gave you a chance to speak, but now you're derailing and moving off target.
@natnewsnetworkBut the reality is that Christians, when they took over in Spain, there was not a single mosque left. Not a single mosque.
@submission2tThey were all converted to churches. There was not a single Muslim left in Spain. They were either forced to convert or kicked out. So if you want to go down history, I can give you exponentially high numbers of how Christians, whether it was in Africa, whether it was in other places, they committed massacres. Guess what?
@submission2tWhen the Crusaders came from Europe into the Levant area, Not only did they kill the Muslims there, they killed Christians there. Because even the Christians of that place, they didn't like. They committed atrocities. So if you want to open up a can of history of 1400 years, when the world operated under very different norms, right?
@submission2tHang on. In all fairness, two things.
Ian MalcolmI want to make sure that we try to first and foremost get additional speakers in this because otherwise it's literally just going to become a back and forth ping pong with a lot of emotion. And to that, when Veritas made his point, I just want to make it clear, I heard at least this most recent rendition, he made a set of statements.
Ian MalcolmHe didn't kind of throw, I don't want to call them inflammatory remarks, but Dr. Strange, you're kind of provoking for Veritas to jump in and interrupt, and I don't think it's reasonable to then use the mute button if you're doing that. So maybe just focus on making the statements, and then we can get other voices. Sure.
@submission2tHe can let me finish. He can let me finish because he will derail and bring something else in.
Ian MalcolmNo, but you're doing it right now. You're just poking him.
@submission2tI gave him a chance to speak for like three minutes. And he mentioned numerous things, and I need to address each and every one of them. Look, if you want to use the broom analogy of Islam being used as a broom, frankly, that's bullshit. If anybody's being used like a broom is the Christian Zionists and the U.S. for the past 50 years of pushing the fervor wars in the Middle East.
@submission2tSo I don't know what world you live in, but the reality is... I live in Europe. We in the U.S. and Europe has been used as the broom for Israel... Thank you very much. Thank you.
@submission2tYou know what? Let me start a new chapter.
@natnewsnetworkThat's the issue. I actually look. I look at Germany and I see a spike in major crime rates. I look at secret recordings of mosques where they clearly state that they want to subvert the government, that they want to overtake positions of power, that they want to overthrow the government.
@joann_marieVeritas, why are all of the Muslims there?
@natnewsnetworkI know they are being brought by... Yes, and you're an American, the West. Does that change the result? Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Hang on, hang on.
Ian MalcolmI actually kind of think that in some sense it does. And where I'm going with this is I think it's worth noting that as the quote-unquote refugee crisis of the Middle East, as they take all those people that are being displaced and they push them into the West, which obviously I oppose... The reality is that built into that collective of people, and I think it's worth noting, the same thing is happening in the United States for what it's worth.
Ian MalcolmThey are intentionally bringing in bad actors. They are shuffling them in with the refugees. They are basically building, and you'll even see Ben Shapiro talk about this. Oh, yeah, sleeper cells. He's not entirely wrong, right? He's refusing to acknowledge that it's actually Jewish supremacy behind it, right? But they are building a collective army of people.
Ian MalcolmAnd they've done this all across Europe. We've seen it. And it's not just the Muslims. It's also all the Africans that are being imported. They're almost all men aged 18 to 30. Why do you think they're doing these things? It should be very obvious why that is happening. It is to bring about bad actors. So it would not be unreasonable to suggest that amidst the millions of people who have come into the West that Veritas, to your comment about some of those secret recordings or whatever it might be, that there are people
Ian MalcolmThank you very much.
Ian MalcolmUnfortunately aligned with the Jewish supremacists because the same psychopathic people that want to build the greater Israel and they want to destroy Europe, I wouldn't be at all surprised, right? No different than the FBA spaces, and we know who runs a lot of those voices, like Tariq Nasheed, who just also happens to be married to a Jew, right?
Ian MalcolmThat he sits there and says, yeah, down with the white guys, right? There's probably a lot of racist, bigoted, radical lunatics. That are of all walks of life that are aligned with the Jewish supremacist desire to destroy Europe. I don't doubt that that has happened. I think what Dr. Strange is suggesting is that there may be, and maybe this is a reasonable question to ask, what percentage of the Muslims that might be either in the United States or now in Western Europe are in opposition to the dismantling of the West, which is what this fundamentally is about, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd maybe that's a 50-50 split. My own personal knee-jerk reaction, I'd say it's probably a tiny proportion of the Muslims that have been forced here because of war and horror, that those individuals probably are just trying to get away from bad actors, which, let's be real, are the Jewish supremacists. Again, I'm sure there are some radical fringe people that are in all these different walks, but we should recognize that just like the FBA rooms, I think those are Jewish supremacist ops.
Ian MalcolmI do. Thank you for joining us.
Ian MalcolmBut I would imagine, and maybe I'm wrong, but I'd imagine that the overwhelming majority of Muslims that have been displaced not by their own doing and not because they're part of some kind of radical, let's say, offshoot that is ultimately subservient to Jewish supremacy, that want that to happen. Those people that are right now running through the streets of France, I would assume that they are the same sponsored bad actors that were behind the very likes of BLM, all of those riots, all of this other chaos.
Ian MalcolmThis is all architected. I don't think the people that right now are setting things afire in France are people that were trying to live a peaceful life and then because of war-torn countries had to flee to Europe. That's just my sentiments. Maybe I'm wrong.
@natnewsnetworkHow many Muslim countries are there? Why don't they go there?
Ian MalcolmWhy are they always going into Christian countries? Because the Jewish supremacists are funneling them west, obviously.
@joann_marieLet's think about this for a second.
Ian MalcolmVeritas, why do you think they're in the West? Do you not think that it's because of Jewish supremacy?
@natnewsnetworkThey're moving by their own, right? They're being... No! There are so many lobbies.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, I know the lobbies, but they are still moving on their own.
@joann_marieWell, you pump their country. Like, what do you want them to know?
@natnewsnetworkLike, if you pump their house. Do you think they are like Jewish buses that carry them from Syria to Spain?
Ian MalcolmVeritas, we know that there are literally Jewish buses that were importing people into the United States from South and Central America. And I say that because Fox News was dumb enough to run a literal video clip that had the big star of David on the side of literally a, you could call it a truck or a bus. But either way, yes, the Jewish supremacists like HIAS are literally funneling people into the United States because they want to destroy it.
Ian MalcolmThat's my, this entire thesis, right, is that this is all by design. Go and blow up the Middle East, take all of those people, dump them into the West. Then basically sponsored bad actors to destroy the West economically, culturally, literally with bombs. There's no part of me that doesn't think that these cathedrals that are burning to the ground, they say that they're riots and blah, blah, blah.
Ian MalcolmYeah, so was the George Soros-sponsored BLM riots. It was all Jewish supremacy that was basically pushing the same downfall of the West.
@natnewsnetworkI get your point and I know about all the Jewish migration NGOs. I know about that.
@joann_marieI posted a video of something called Israel Aid in the Jumbotron where they literally... JoAnn, thank you so much.
@submission2tI'm glad you mentioned it. Look, there's a post I made up top. This is from six years ago. Yair Netanyahu, he says, let's make a deal. We won't fund NGOs in your country calling you to give away Soweta and Malia and you will stop funding NGOs in our country that call us to give away Judea and Samaria. This was a post against to the Spanish government because the Spanish government, basically their position has been to support the Palestinian cause.
@submission2tAnd for that reason, the
@submission2tThe Trump administration for Morocco to take over Soweta and Melilla. And this was a, I would say, I think there was the main guy in that lobby group is an Israeli guy. And they've been pushing the Trump administration for Morocco to get that piece, that part of land, Spanish land, because this was essentially a trade back
@submission2tfor Morocco signing on to the Abraham Accords. So there's a lot of this shit that happens that we don't know of. But another quick point regarding Maimonides. Yes, Maimonides was the personal doctor of Salahuddin. But Maimonides was also, there's also issues that he was pretending to be, he converted, fake converted into Islam for many years.
@submission2tAnd he basically, he spoke fluent Arabic. For many years, he was basically going around and saying he was a Muslim. And then there was a court hearing on it as well in Egypt. But then he was freed. They didn't press any charges against him. So there's that element of it as well. But yes, the Muslim world, whether it's Christians or Jews, allowed them to live and they had mobility.
@submission2tThey can rise up to even be a minister. So that actually goes back to what I was saying. That's a testimony to what I've been saying, that Islam allowed other religions to prosper and grow even in mobility in many of these other countries. Can we go to the hands because it's just been Veritas all the time.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, no, no. So here's what we're going to do. And I say this because we've got a dozen different people that are requesting. And like I said, we're going to ping pong back and forth emotionally. It's not productive. I do also want to... I'm actually glad that you're here because I do want somebody to be able to check.
Ian MalcolmThank you very much.
Ian MalcolmSo why don't we go through and maybe let's start with, I think Digital Spaces has been in here very peacefully and patiently waiting. So why don't we go to him and then JoAnn, if we can go through the list, if you've got it, that'd be great. And a big shout out to Mr. Truth Teller in the house. Very excited for his thoughts on this one as well.
@ghostcypher90Yeah, I really appreciate the space, man. It's been really interesting listening to you guys. Dr. Strange is obviously a very interesting Muslim, definitely knows quite a lot. And I'm sure we know that there's different interpretations as well. But I just wanted to bring up two things. One is, you know, when they say, the thing is, is right in Christianity, it says clearly that, you know, there's a blood system of atonement.
@ghostcypher90The way that they govern their society and stuff is, you know, they're a formidable adversary, but I still think they're an adversary in that regard. And I think they might be doing it unknowingly, but they're working on behalf of this globalist agenda. I don't think there's necessarily just one particular group, the Jews or whatever.
@ghostcypher90I think that it's, you know... The Globalists, essentially, are flooding our countries to drive down wages and turn us into a slave class. But the thing is that these people from foreign nations that are coming and colonizing my homeland right now, you guys have all seen it, raping and pillaging. Same's probably happening in France right now as well.
@ghostcypher90They're the foot soldiers for these guys, and they need to recognize what they're doing. And, you know, you can sit there...
@ghostcypher90That's what people say to us constantly, right? They always say, well, you did it to everybody else.
Ian MalcolmI didn't do anything to these guys. And actually, you know what that does? Those statements, A, I think they're unreasonable and ridiculous because in many ways it was the British, for example, that ended slavery prior to the United States, right? And so this idea that the British have just forever been the villain Thank you for having me.
Ian MalcolmThat individuals that were a part of mass migration into the West that are Muslim, once we get rid of Jewish supremacy, that needs to be reversed so that we can build a better homeland for everybody, right? A Middle East that's free of Jewish supremacy. A West that's free of Jewish supremacy. All of us being able to live in peace in our nationalities with our people and our civilizations.
Ian MalcolmAnd so, Digital, I do find it wild. And we hear the exact same thing in the United States. And where do you hear those things? In rooms like the FBA spaces. that I believe are largely sponsored and supported by Jewish supremacists to get a whole bunch of black people to basically say, oh, yeah, well, down with the white west because, oh, the white man, right?
Ian MalcolmYou can see how they are fanning those flames. And it's why, you know, it is really important and critical that we appreciate our differences. We respect that we are in this same boat together and that either Christians and Muslims and everybody, the Middle East, if we don't stop this, digital space, what you just said,
Ian MalcolmThank you. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmOr we go down with the ship because we can't stand together, or we stand together recognizing our differences with the ability to respect the fact that once we address this, we're going to try and right the wrongs. We're not going to take out the primary catalyst and then turn on one another and say, well, now I also get your homeland.
Ian MalcolmSo in the same way that the Muslims that have come to the West, that they should be willing to recognize, let's band together, rebuild everything, and then they'll go back to the Middle East in the same fashion.
Ian MalcolmWhat do you know is basically all of them. So digital space, I'm curious for your thoughts and then we'll go down to JoAnn and the next speaker.
@ghostcypher90Yeah, I really appreciate it, man. What was it? Obviously, I think the Christians should have the Holy Land. But, you know, you guys have been squabbling over it for a while. Maybe not you, Ian. Which Christians?
@truthtellerftmWe're better at it.
@ghostcypher90Do you know what I mean? We're fair. You know what I mean? We're fairer than you guys. That's fine.
@truthtellerftmWhich Christians should have it?
@ghostcypher90I'm just messing around. It's not a big deal.
@truthtellerftmThe Orthodox Christians, the Protestants. Who are you in favor of? There's like 40,000.
Speaker 4The Palestinians.
@truthtellerftmCan you define what you mean when you say the Christians should have the Holy Land?
@ghostcypher90Yeah, the people that believe in Jesus. Which ones are those? It's the Christian Holy Land. Jesus is God.
@truthtellerftmLook, dude, I don't want to get off the... How's that worked out historically?
@ghostcypher90I'm just trying to get on to the other point. I want to let the hands go.
@truthtellerftmI don't want to disrupt the space like this. You can make your point and I appreciate that, but I'm not having a conversation with you.
@ghostcypher90Do the British people never voted for war? They didn't want to go to war? No, they didn't.
@truthtellerftmThe British people never ever voted to go for a war like this. Is there any way that I'll be able to finish my point? I don't know. You take responsibility for your actions. I'm sorry, you don't get a pass when you're responsible for 50 million refugees in West Asia. So you play it off like you're a victim, you're not.
@truthtellerftmAnd what about the Christian evangelicals? They supposedly believe in Jesus too and they support Israel.
@ghostcypher90I guess I'll just get interrupted by this guy and then he gets the pushy narrative that I'm an evil person.
@briciusxGuys, guys, no, we're not going to do this.
@joann_marieBryce, no, no, no, no. Oh my God. Guys, guys, okay. We're not going to do this.
@joann_marieThat's kind of bizarre.
@truthtellerftmWhy don't you go watch the Mother Teresa, the baby trafficker? Okay, okay.
@joann_marieI've got some really great... Stop.
Speaker 5Okay.
@truthtellerftmBryce wants the Catholic theocracy, yeah, just like Nick Fuentes. Oh, you want the socialist theocracy.
@joann_marieOh my God, stop. We're not going to do this. Stop.
@joann_marieWe're going to go to Dan Bilzerian for President now.
Ian MalcolmCan't I just wrap up what I was saying? Yeah, let's just wrap and then we'll go to the next speaker and go to Dan Bilzerian.
@ghostcypher90Sure thing. Okay, thank you very much. What was it? So, what was it? Yeah, so, with the Muslims and the Christian alliance, as long as these people were saying, oh yeah, we'll go back, we're happy to, obviously we're not from this land, we came here for a reason, right? And we're going to vote with you guys for Restore Britain.
@ghostcypher90So that we can deal with this, you know, lobby group essentially that controls the whole country. And then after that, we're going to work together so that we can re-migrate these people back to their homeland in the best possible way. We're a team. You know what I mean? If they did that, if they came out in support of us and stopped saying shit like we're going to turn Buckingham Palace into a mosque, you know, then we'd be cool.
@ghostcypher90But they never turn up at any of the gigs. They're never out there protesting with us for the kids. You know what I mean? And it's just over and over again. You just keep seeing Ahmed. It's crazy. 14-year-old girl, 11-year-old girl, kidnapped. You know what I mean? And it's just these same foreign people over and over again.
@ghostcypher90If we can please not talk over each other I'd appreciate it. I do want to make a few quick points because it's important.
@truthtellerftmThe challenge
@submission2tLet me be very frank with you, especially my fellow Christians in this space. Your media is hijacked. Your views and attitudes for decades have been shaped by whatever the media has inculcated within your minds. A simple thing, and this is what Ian was referring to earlier, is that their tactic is that they'll find a fringe asshole who does not represent the masses, who is completely
@submission2tis this son of a bitch called Anjum Chowdhury. I don't want to curse his dad, but this guy was the epitome of, none of the Muslims liked him. Like the overwhelming majority of Muslims would like to beat him up if they find him because he did not represent Muslims. He was not in any way, shape or form, but he was the one who was brought onto Fox News repeatedly, repeatedly.
@submission2tEvery single time they wanted to hear from a Muslim, who would they bring? They would bring Anjam Chaudhry. They wouldn't bring a scholar. Muslims have hundreds of scholars in the U.S. and in possibly Europe. They would never bring those scholars up who actually knew the religion, who studied the religion, but they wanted to bring this firebrand and showcase him as the face of Islam.
@submission2tSo if you cannot wake up to the reality that you have been indoctrinated, you've been indoctrinated in the West to ensure that they push the forever wars on you, to ensure that you support every action Israel takes, even if it may be genocide at your cost, then, you know, that shows me a level of IQ issue here. Because if you cannot wake up and realize
@submission2tThank you for joining us.
@submission2tYou have no clue because the media doesn't tell you that. You have no clue how much persecution Christians are going through in India right now because the media is silent on it. And guess what? India is your ally. India is your national ally. They don't tell you that shit. This is how they indoctrinate you. I'm not trying to tell you to like Muslims.
@submission2tI don't like many Muslims. I'm not trying to tell you you need to embrace Islam. Absolutely not. What I am trying to tell you is wake up and smell the coffee because you're being used. The very fear, the very hate, the very anger that has been manufactured is being exploited. Once they've injected you with the fear and hate and anger within you about Muslims, they own you.
@submission2tYou become their bitch. You literally become their bitch. Then they will tell you, go to war with these people because if you don't go to war there, They're going to come fight you on your ground. And then dumb idiots will pack up their bags and go to war in places like Afghanistan and Iraq because it's not benefiting America.
@submission2tIt hasn't benefited a single iota for the West. It has led to more refugees. It has led to millions of people dying. And it has led to trillions of dollars being wasted. If you don't want to wake up and still want to pursue the forever wars, then allow the others. You deserve what the Jewish supremacists, the Zionists are doing to you.
@submission2tYou literally deserve it. If you do not wake up to that, I'm not asking you to like Muslims. I'm not asking you to like Islam. I'm asking you to wake up. Wake up because somebody has turned you into their bitch. Going back to what Ian was saying, Look, there's a TV channel called Memory TV. If anybody's heard of Memory TV, it has Arabic writings on it.
@submission2tPeople think, oh, it's some Arab channel. It's been around.
@ghostcypher90Get down to the rallies, bro. Get down to the rallies.
@submission2tDigital, I didn't interrupt you. You're not going to interrupt me. And raise your hand. It's not your turn. Memory TV... Dude, you interrupted me. I didn't get to finish. No, I didn't interrupt you. You were done.
Ian MalcolmWell, no, no, no. We do want to let Digital finish, but... But he did finish, Ian.
@submission2tHe did finish. It was my turn. In any case, Memory TV, basically, people always thought this was some sort of an Arab channel. But, lo and behold, many people are realizing now that the founders of Memory TV, was two individuals. One was former Israeli intelligence, who I forgot his name in any case. What was that, JoAnn?
@submission2tYeah, I think it was somebody, something else. Yes. The other one was an American Israeli political scientist, another Zionist, Jewish supremacist. They founded Memory TV in 1997. And what they do is they go around the Muslim world and find every asshole out of 2 billion people that said something horrible. And then they basically amplify it throughout the Western world saying, look, this is what Muslims believe.
@submission2tAnd a lot of media entities in the U.S. pick that up and then say, oh, yeah, this is what Muslims believe. They will never bring in, they will never showcase, they won't do this with anybody else, right? This is called selectivism or selective portrayal, selective demonization of a group to make sure that you hate them enough for you to be willing to go fight them over there or cross into the Middle East.
@submission2tAnd they've done a phenomenal job because this is all part of that Yanan plan. And it comes to your detriment. and the detriment of the Muslim world. It's as simple as that. So when I keep going on back to the source, when I keep telling you that historical, I showcase historical facts, when I tell you Quranic verses, I'm trying to tell you that there is no motive, incentive or ideological reasoning for Muslims to go basically try to force convert Christians.
@submission2tThey're not allowed to force convert Christians. Islam forbids forced conversion. There's multiple verses that says there's no compulsion in religion. And the history is a truth to it. And I told you, for 500 years, the Levant was Christian majority. And in addition, there are thousands of churches to this day in most of these countries, including North Africa.
@submission2tThere's some 4,000 churches in Egypt. When Islam was at its pinnacle, when Sharia law was implemented all over, it didn't go around and say, oh, we're going to force convert all these people. In fact, it did the opposite. It allowed them to live peacefully there. Now, going back to what Ian was saying, Ian, as I said before, regarding Muslims in America, Muslims represent 1.3% of the population.
@submission2tThey have one of the lowest crime rates of any minority. They're not involved in degeneracy, such as the porn industry, the gambling industry, and everything else that's going on. They're not involved in the drug cartels that's bringing in fentanyl, which is killing 35 to 40,000 Americans on an annual basis. They're not involved in the human trafficking that's going on by the gangs and the drug cartels.
@submission2tDigital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee
@truthtellerftmWho established the pedophiles?
@ghostcypher90Dude, can I just finish my one point? I had two little points, two sentences.
@joann_marieLet's go to digital so that I can recycle people.
@submission2tJoAnn, we just want to get this out of the way real fast and there's no way to have a conversation. Okay, let's go one at a time.
Ian MalcolmThe only point I'm trying to make... Yeah, let's let digital have two minutes and then we'll continue. Hang on. No, Dr. Strange, in all fairness. You were speaking for a long time there. Let's go to Digital, let him finish up, then we'll rotate some of the speakers.
@ghostcypher90Yeah, I just wanted to be super fast. Obviously, I don't support wars. British people don't support wars. All of the people, they did the biggest protest for the Iraq war in the history of Britain. They never wanted to go to war. They were against the Ukraine war. We don't think that we should be out there fighting other people's wars, spending all of our money, giving weapons to these people.
@ghostcypher90That's not a British thing. So this idea that the British people, the working class people, are somehow responsible for all of the world's tragedies and that we've somehow benefited from that is bullshit. Now hopefully we can work together, we can do the re-migration as a team, it would be great, Muslim Christian Alliance.
@ghostcypher90Abusing children in the country, right? Let's deal with that. If they said that with us, then we'd be cool with it. But they don't. They, like, protect them and stuff like that. And the final thing that I'd like to say on this is if the Jews, which you guys were talking about, now they're allowed to do worship at the Muslim temples, what does that mean?
@ghostcypher90When the Jews go into the Temple Mount and they do an animal sacrifice, what does that mean? Guys, do you know?
@ziyad_kayyaliI can address that if you guys want.
@submission2tAnd then we'll go to truth.
@ziyad_kayyaliYeah, I've been really patient. Digital, listen, what you see on TV with these settlers going into, it's not the Temple Mount, it's Al-Aqsa compound. So, actually, it's happening. Can you have some respect, man? You talk about, you know, you talk about, you know, let's join hands and what have you. And it's not helping when you do these emojis.
@ziyad_kayyaliIt's very silly.
@submission2tIt's very childish. You have to grow up. This is part of it.
@ziyad_kayyaliBut anyway.
@submission2tAnd then you think about it.
@ghostcypher90I'm crying. You guys are the ones that are crying. We're all adults. Get over it.
@submission2tWhat do you mean? You're making emojis like a little baby. No hard feelings, guys. You're making emojis like a little kid. Have an adult conversation. Go ahead, Ziad.
@ziyad_kayyaliSo anyways, what you see on TV with regards to Al-Aqsa Mosque, this is happening against the will of the people. And when you see these settlers go in, look, they have the police with them, right? They're protected, right? Why are they protected? Ask yourself that. Now, earlier Veritas said that 10 rabbis...
@ziyad_kayyaliOh, I can give you hundreds of examples. Didn't Dr.
@natnewsnetworkStrange just say that they should be treated fairly and stuff like that? It's basically completely contradicting what you're saying.
@ziyad_kayyaliNo, no, no, no, no. It's not contradicting.
@joann_marieVeritas, have you read the Quran? Are you guys going to interrupt? It says the craziest things about Jews there. They do not like them at all.
@truthtellerftmIn Iran and Yemen, they impose the death penalty on pedophiles. What do they do in the UK and the US? They get to become president, actually.
@ziyad_kayyaliLet me just get my phone.
@truthtellerftmIs that funny, Digital? That your leadership is made up of pedophiles?
@briciusxWhat does your leadership in Canada do there, Truther?
@joann_marieOh my God, this is such a spicy space. We're not going to do this, guys. We're not. Okay.
@ziyad_kayyaliGo for it, Siyad, and then we'll go back to the... Yeah, I've been really, really patient and, you know, I mean, Digital, come on, man. So...
@truthtellerftmThere's no reasoning with a pedophile defender. These guys love Trump, too.
@ziyad_kayyaliThey think he's great.
@ghostcypher90I want them to get with that.
@ziyad_kayyaliOkay, listen, I'm gonna... Digital, look, okay. I've been hearing about what's happening in the UK and I disagree with it as a Muslim, as a human. I'm against it. But... But here's the thing, man. When we say an invasion, a Muslim invasion, well, but when it comes to the other group of people, like Indians, you guys say Indians.
@ziyad_kayyaliWhy don't you say Hindus, right? Why don't you label them by their religion? Why can't you say Pakistanis, for instance? Why can't you say Syrians? Why can't you say Afghanis? Why do you label them with their religion? And now, let's look at the other hand. Now, we have a lot of Europeans.
@truthtellerftmNow, let's look at the other side. We have a lot of Europeans that live amongst us.
@ziyad_kayyaliWe never label them as Christians. No matter what they do, if they do good, if they do bad, we say he's a French man, he's an English man. But we don't label them as a Christian. Now, forget about what the Quran says and what have you and all this. You guys talked about the Jewish tribes in the Arabian Peninsula. What Dr.
@ziyad_kayyaliStrange said, was true, and what you, Veritas, said was true. There was a tribe, a Jewish tribe from Yemen. Yes, absolutely. They're called the Yemenites, if I'm not mistaken. But there was three tribes in Medina, in Yathrib, Medina, and they were called Bani Qurayza, Bani Qunaynaqa, and Bani Al-Nadir. Now those, and listen to this,
@ziyad_kayyaliIn Medina, there were two major tribes, Aus and Khazraj, and they were at war with each other for 140 years. And guess what? One tribe was in alliance with one Jewish tribe, and the other was in alliance with the other Jewish tribe. And so what happened was, these two Jewish tribes were... were, you know, conspiring and, you know, so in the division between those two major tribes, this is why they went to war for 140 years.
@ziyad_kayyaliNow, when Islam came into Medina, when Prophet Muhammad came into Medina, and by the way, Prophet Muhammad had a wife named Maria Al-Qabtiya, the Coptic Maria, a Christian. Now, when he came and he actually sat both major tribes together, And they reconciled. They didn't sit well with those Jewish tribes. So what happened?
@ziyad_kayyaliThey conspired with the enemies of Islam. And although they had a treaty, signed a treaty with Prophet Muhammad, but they broke that treaty and they conspired with the pagans of what is known now Mecca. They conspired with them and they backstabbed the Muslims. And the Muslims fought them and kicked them out. This is a fact, a historical fact.
@ziyad_kayyaliNow, forget history, forget this. Let's go to Damascus. You probably didn't know this, but when the French occupied Syria, and they tore down every mosque in Syria. There was no place for Muslims to go pray. So what happened? The churches, the Christian churches of Damascus, they started calling for the Muslim prayers five times a day.
@ziyad_kayyaliLiterally. So Muslims were going into the churches in Damascus and praying five times a day. Now, let's fast forward to 2013, something like this.
@ziyad_kayyaliThe terrorists, the terrorists that are called ISIS, they kidnapped 13 nuns in a little tiny town where Aramaic is still spoken till today. And it's believed that Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, had visited that town. It's called Maaloula. Actually, it's northwest. It sits northwest of Damascus. And it has a lot of monasteries.
@ziyad_kayyaliThey kidnapped, ISIS kidnapped 13, if I'm not mistaken, 13 nuns. Guess who went and fought and died to free those nuns? It was Hezbollah, Muslims. So this is who we are, man. You know, you can go to Google and you can do this and you do your search in Google and stuff and you will get the, you know, whatever information you want to call it, Jew information or whatever, I don't care.
@ziyad_kayyaliBut here I'm telling you, From people from the ground. Now, me personally, I pat myself on the back for convincing two of my Christian friends. I mean, these are like dear friends. I convinced them not to migrate. Why? Because we want more Christians. We don't want the Christian population to dwindle. We don't. When I drove by
@ziyad_kayyaliThis newly built church, it was an Orthodox church. I passed by that and something did not set well with me. Why? Because when I looked at that church, I didn't see any greenery around the church. So what I did is I went, and I'm not saying this to brag. No, this is just to explain how we are. So I went and bought some, you know, some, what do you call it, plants and what have you.
@ziyad_kayyaliAnd I walked in and I gave it to them. They wanted to, you know, thank and stuff. And I said, no, I feel this is my home. And I want my home to look pretty. And those plants are now grown and they still sit there. This is how we are, man. So we have a lot, a lot in common. And, you know, yes, we do have our differences.
@ziyad_kayyaliYes, we made mistakes towards each other in the past. Yes, we did. And what do you guys, I mean, we in this age, with this generation, future generations, do we want to continue the fight? Or we want to fight the real enemy? Make up your mind. Thank you.
@joann_marieBeautiful. Thank you, Syed. And I'm going to post a video of non-stanking Hezbollah in the Jumbotron. So, yes, it's true from Syria. Thank you. Beautiful. All right. And guys, please repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian, Dr. Strange, Ruth, Dan, Bryce, right? Everybody on the panel are just absolutely superstars.
Ian MalcolmAnd thank you so much. Let's go to digital spaces for a minute or two, and then we'll rotate him out because we got a lot of other requests. But I just wanted to make sure he got a chance to finish up.
@ghostcypher90I really appreciate it and what was it I didn't want to take up any more time but yeah just you know let me speak for myself you know what I mean some of these other people think I believe certain things maybe but you know just ask me a question I'll answer it I'm happy to always answer your questions and I appreciate the opportunity to speak so yeah don't you don't have to put words in my mouth I'll speak for myself happily anytime guys you know what I mean just drop me a DM sound
Ian MalcolmWell, let's go to the next speaker there, Joann.
@joann_marieAll right. Bryce, go for it. And guys, we're not going to do adhoms. We're just not going to do adhoms, okay?
@ziyad_kayyaliJoann, if you need the space, I can drop down.
@joann_marieThank you, Sian.
@briciusxI think it's very important. To recognize that a lot of the things that are going on in Europe as far as the migration is concerned has a lot to do with the United States and Israel and the bombings of Muslim homes throughout the Middle East from the Reagan years to present. A lot of this stuff is self-inflicted onto us.
@briciusxAnd, you know, Ian, you're absolutely right. You've got a... Can you guys forgive me? I forget the name of this aid company. But they're literally in every freaking photo. Yes! They're everywhere. You can't say that this isn't a conspiracy, that there isn't something there, and that, you know, Christians can't... Thank you for joining us.
@briciusxRelationships with the Arab world. The Arab world, if you read the Quran, it's not this negative, nasty religion. It's actually a very beautiful religion. The things that they say about Jesus is beautiful. What they believe about Jesus is beautiful. And we don't have to look any further than the Talmud. If you want to see what the Jews have to say about Jesus, look at the Talmud.
@briciusxIf you want to see what the Muslims have to say about Jesus, read the Quran. Because they praise Jesus. They may not call him the Son of God, but they call him a Messiah. So listen, we're not going to agree on everything. And there are problems. What's going on in Europe? Yeah, we don't want an Arab uprising in Britain or in Spain or in any of those things.
@briciusxBut we also have to take some responsibility for the actions that we've created in the Middle East, the things that we've done to the Arab world to displace them. To destroy their economics, to destroy their livelihoods and the things that we're allowing Israel to do currently right now with the Greater Israel Project.
@briciusxGaza is completely destroyed right now. And that's Christians and Muslims right now that are suffering together. They're suffering together. This is not just Muslims that are dying in Gaza right now. It is... Thank you very much.
@briciusxare very intelligent individuals who have high IQs and do a lot of research and sometimes that builds up and I'll say it for myself too, I've got a massive ego. I think this whole conversation that we're about to have, this alliance, set your ego aside and ask yourself, what would Jesus do? And I can tell you what Jesus would do would not be to curse Muslims, would not be to, you know, say nasty things about Muslims, but to work hand in hand with them.
@briciusxTo say that we can build a better society together in harmony away from the Zionist Jews in tandem. And, you know, Truther, I'm sorry that I got a little snippy at you, but that was wrong. You're absolutely right on a lot of things about Christians. I'm a Catholic. Our history is horrible. Look at the shit that we did in the Crusades.
@briciusxLook at what we did to the Arabs in the Crusades. And then look at what Saladin did. Saladin came and then said, listen, you guys can leave. Leave Jerusalem. Leave all of it. We're not going to harm you. And the king said, well, when we came in here, we massacred you. And Saladin looked at him in the eyes and said, well, I'm not you.
@natnewsnetworkYou shouldn't take historical knowledge from movies.
@truthtellerftmBut it's based on facts. It's funny, Veritas. It is based on facts. It is based on facts. Look at the Fourth Crusade where you had Catholics that persecuted Orthodox Christians when they destroyed... Why did the Crusades happen in the first place? Veritas, I'll tell you why. In 1095, you had Urban II who had a divided Europe he was dealing with.
@truthtellerftmSo what he did is promised salvation... Thank you so much for joining us.
@truthtellerftmSo you guys, the Christian evangelicals are the broom the Jews use to wipe out Muslims like they've done across the Middle East and also kill other Christians. Do you think that the Zionist Christians are Christians? Well, yes, that's what they consider themselves as. Yes, they are. They believe in Jesus. That's what they say.
@truthtellerftmSo anyway, obviously, first of all, you don't even know what a real Christian is. A real Christian believes in Jesus' teachings. He doesn't just worship Jesus and then believe in resurrection and all the rest. It takes more than that to be a Christian, but you're hung up on one thing. That's your problem. You don't actually understand what Christ's teachings were.
@truthtellerftmHe never went around telling people, worship me and vote even my future resurrection. He never said that once. Why do you think they took books out of the Bible in the first place, like Gospel of Mary, Gospel of Philip, Gospel of Thomas? I can go on and on. You know nothing about the real Bible. You are a radicalized Christian who knows nothing about reality.
@truthtellerftmYou're just a race baiter. That's it. You're a race hustler and a race baiter who thinks he can define what an Aryan is and everyone else is outside. Again, you're not interested in any type of unity. You just want to go on another
@truthtellerftmto go in and do these invasions. More than 300 million Christians were forcibly converted. First of all, Christians were converted by other Christians. What did Charlemagne do in 784 when he was going out and wiping out other Christians and also pagan worshippers and forcing them to convert? It's Christians that were forcing other Christians to convert.
@natnewsnetworkYou mean the pagans that attacked the Franks for 200 years?
@truthtellerftmThe pagans didn't even have an army. You always leave out the unpleasant parts of history. Charlemagne forced Christianity by the sword. The Catholic Christians were the ones that were imposed the Spanish Inquisition. When you came into South America and either forced the conversion or wiped them out, you wiped out 90% of the population, and all the popes obviously validated that.
@truthtellerftmThey decreed it. They were fine with it. It was Alexander VI who was okay with doing colonization and enslavement, and then going about these so-called new lands in Central America, South America, with guys like Hernan Cortes and Pizarro, they were wiping out these native populations and then forcing the remainder to convert.
@truthtellerftmI'm sorry, but Christianity was spread by the sword. You think there's over a billion Catholics because they all just converted? No, there was forced conversions or you fucking die. And they did that across Europe as well. Again, I'll remind you. About the Protestant Reformation, did you forget about that? The South Americans wiped themselves out, right?
@truthtellerftmWho did the 30-year war between 1618 and 1640? It's funny how you forget about that. There were Christians. It was decreed, by the way. It was authorized by the Pope. It wasn't about Christianity in the first place. It was just a political move. Like I said, anytime a Christian does anything wrong, you're like, they're not Christian.
@truthtellerftmBut when a Muslim does something wrong, it's all the Muslims. That's where you're a fucking two-faced, duplicitous jackass. You don't want to acknowledge the fact that Christians do wrong as well. And you had Catholics that were persecuting, wiping out Protestants. They killed 10 million of them. It was a fucking Holocaust.
@truthtellerftmYou want to deny that? You wiped out fucking Protestant Christians because they don't believe like you.
@natnewsnetworkNo, I'm one of the greatest critics of the Catholic Church. You need to come up with a different argument against me. Truth teller, please. You just don't want to admit it.
@truthtellerftmI think you have an inferiority complex
@truthtellerftmFor 1,500 plus years, the Catholic Church, which is the biggest Christian denomination, has wiped out hundreds of millions of people under the guise of what's serving Jesus. They said there were holy wars. That's what those, since you like bringing up the Crusades, that's what those were. They were going in there and wiping people out.
@truthtellerftmYou can compare that with about the 600 million in total that died in Muslim conquest. Listen, Christ, to his credit, gives credit to someone like Saladin who could have wiped people out, civilians out, because that's exactly what the Crusaders did in 1099 when they wiped out tens of thousands of disarmed civilians, among them Christians too, by the way.
@truthtellerftmThey wiped out Christians, Muslims, and Jews because that's just who the fuck they were, and the Pope authorized that. You're a bunch of fucking savages too, you just don't want to admit it. And that's exactly what George Bush said when he went in You want to compare the satanic Freemasonic United States with Christianity?
@truthtellerftmBut you know, you
@truthtellerftmLet's not speak over each other. Veritas, do you understand why the hypocrisy that you're making? When it's Muslims, you say, oh, it's Muslims and Islam.
@submission2tIf somebody commits a crime and they happen to be Muslim, you bring their religion into it. But when Christians do the same thing, you're like, oh, they were not really Christians. I don't consider them as Christians. Do you understand the hypocrisy of what we look at? Like if somebody commits a rape and they happen to be Muslim, Islam forbids it and they would face capital punishment, regardless of who they rape.
@submission2tIf it's another Muslim, if it's Christian, they face capital punishment. But you turn around and will say, oh, a Muslim did it, right? You don't necessarily say, oh, it's a Pakistani immigrant or whatever. You want to blame the religion on everything that happens, but you won't do the same thing with Christianity. He just gave you numerous examples.
@submission2tHe gave you specific examples from the Catholic Church and the fact that George Bush stood up and said, he used the word crusade, that this is a new crusade. And then you turn around and say, oh, I don't believe he's a Christian. The hypocrisy is really... I don't know what to say. But carry on.
Ian MalcolmAnd let's recognize that the best way to probably do this, because we've got a dozen...
@truthtellerftmIn respectfully, I'll wait my turn, but I'd like to finish my statement. Absolutely.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. Yep. And so what we'll try to do is to not allow things to devolve into the chaotic back and forth, because then people aren't able to... Contribute that are trying to be respectful to the order. So let's go to Mr. Mighty Thor. Then we will jump over to Mr. Dunn Yal, who has been patiently waiting. Then we'll go to Mr.
Ian MalcolmTruth Teller and bounce around the rest of the room. And so look forward to everybody's contributions.
@mighty6thorGuys, let Truth finish, man. It's difficult to maintain a train of thought. I can wait.
Ian MalcolmI knew you would do that.
@mighty6thorI knew you would do that. Please let Truth finish.
@truthtellerftmAnd a gentleman, and I don't know if he says he's Catholic, I have nothing but respect for him. So it's not even about whether you want to believe who's a Christian, who's not, but you have to acknowledge the crimes that are committed in the name of Christianity, whether you want to accept them as Christianity or not, they're still using the Christian name to commit those crimes, and that's just a fact.
@truthtellerftmSo you can again try with this nihilism and this self-righteousness, well I don't consider them real Christian, therefore that doesn't count. Again, Thank you very much.
@truthtellerftmIf you like some names, I can give you plenty of names of white people that have committed all kinds of pedophilia, but they get away with it, and I'll tell you how. You had, for instance, Keir Starmer that refused to prosecute Jimmy Savile for years, even though for decades he knew he was committing mass pedophilia, in addition to Peter Mendelsohn, who everybody knew was in the Epstein files.
@truthtellerftmThen you have Keith Foss, Gerard Davis, Christian Matheson, Connor McGinnick, Mike Hill, Matthew Boyle. You had the police department that ran on this, one after another. And I mentioned in 1974, There was a pedophile information exchange that was established in 1974. It was established by three white guys. So let's at least be honest with each other and admit that Britain was a degenerate country to begin with before any type of so-called Muslim invasion you're claiming took place.
@truthtellerftmIn addition to that... Why don't you strengthen your laws? How about actually imposing the death penalty on pedophiles? Punish them, create a deterrent effect so maybe there won't be any. Instead, you choose not to prosecute them. Germany's weak and pathetic and cucked because of punks like you that won't admit the fact that you're controlled by Jews.
@truthtellerftmIt's not a Muslim problem. No, that's what I'm saying all the time. You were forced into submission by the West. Stop interrupting me. Stop. Listen, you little inbred. Stop interrupting me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mohammed.
@joann_marieNo one comes. No one comes. Yeah, Veritas, let him finish.
@truthtellerftmStop interrupting me. Tell him to stop. Thank you. Thank you. Why is it in the UK you have gay surrogacy laws that allow for these homos to be able to adopt kids, which is used as a cover to be able to both commit pedophilia and also traffic kids? In fact, the first people who were finally arrested after decades of doing this were Barry Druitt Barlow and his former partner, Tony, who became surrogates of kids and they got arrested for trafficking multiple kids.
@truthtellerftmSo if you don't hear more about trafficking in the UK, it's because they do it legally.
@truthtellerftmSo, again, what is Barry Jewett Barlow's religion? Well, based on public sources, he's a Christian. He was baptized at St. John the Baptist Church in Danbury, Essex. And in 2013, him and his lover, Tony, in the Church of England said, I want to go to my church and marry my husband. Why does this so-called Christian state allow for gay marriage?
@truthtellerftmThat's kind of degenerate, isn't it? And also, Barry says, I'm a Christian, a practicing Christian. My children have all been brought up as Christian while he was raping them and trafficking kids. Yeah, this is what's actually happening in the UK. And these are just the ones that have been busted. There are many more. So it's just funny to me.
@truthtellerftmYou're going to believe and take the study seriously. There was done by Suella Braverman, who is a brown Jew married to a freaking Jew and whose kid serves in the IDF. She was the one. There was a home secretary in the UK that came up with that whole study saying Pakistani rape gangs. And you know what? I'm fine. Condemn all the fucking rapists and pedophiles.
@truthtellerftmOne law for all. But you don't. I do. Do you know who does it as well? The Christian scripture, right? Matthew 18, 6. Veritas, I'm not talking to you. Germany's fucked. You're the most cucked state. You support Ukraine. You support Israel. You're in a fucking recession. Yeah, because our politicians are had by the United States.
@truthtellerftmAnd what are you doing about it? So all German people are weak and pathetic because they can't stand up to the government. You can't organize. Now I'm going to use your pathetic and weak. Yes, your Germans are pathetic and weak and they're led by guys like you. Yeah, yeah, okay. Truth made his point regarding the key fallacies in Veritas' argument.
@submission2tTruth, if you have anything else, go ahead and finish.
@truthtellerftmAre you Muslim, right? That idiot is going into space. Veritas, shut the fuck up. Are you Muslim, too? You're going straight to hell. You're going to be burning in there for eternity. Enjoy it. Now, let me finish on France. Listen, France is...
@submission2tSorry, it's the double mute. But let's not interrupt each other.
@natnewsnetworkYou can hear the demons.
@submission2tYeah, let's not make it personal. You know what? In the meantime, I'd like to play a clip.
Ian MalcolmSo hang on, hang on, hang on. So because I don't know what the clip is going to be, but here's what we're going to do. I am going to try and take the same tack that I tried to take five minutes ago that might have lowered some of the tensions. We are going to go to the mighty Thor, who always brings in some comedy and some entertainment along with it.
@truthtellerftmAnd I just had a last point on France. I'll be 30 seconds. I promise I won't be long. It's very simple. And that's what France is a socialist country. They protest every two years. They want to call this some third world uprising and all the rest. No, in fact, these protests, which are over a million people made up of it, are made up of students, union workers, teachers as well, workers that just want better conditions in their school and they're bitching about things like leaks in their schools because the quality of the school system has gone down.
@truthtellerftmOkay, now you have infiltrators within these riots. Everybody can see it. It's like in color revolutions. These guys are hired agitators by the likes of the Open Society Foundation, George Soros and Rockefeller Foundation.
Speaker 1This is what they do everywhere.
@truthtellerftmIt's what they did in America when students were just protesting against what was happening in Palestine. Now there's retards out there that don't want to see a third world invasion. There were protests for weeks. Why is it they only publicize when there's violence? They don't show any of the peaceful protests. Do you ever wonder about that?
@truthtellerftmThat's called propaganda. Thank you very much.
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@truthtellerftmThey're not even involved. You just blame them because you have a weak, reckless government controlled by the Jews. Macron was literally a Rothschild agent who worked for their bank. He does whatever he's told. He himself is the product of freaking pedophilia. His teacher, man, woman, whatever you want to call Brigitte, is the one who molested him when he was 14, 15 years old.
@truthtellerftmAnd now he's in charge. What could possibly go wrong? Thank you very much.
@truthtellerftmAnd there's 50-60,000 idiots that did it. And then idiots like Veritas fall for it because it's an inbred low IQ piece of shit. I'll leave it there.
Speaker 6No, no, no, no, no, no.
Ian MalcolmOkay. And yeah, we'll cut that one there because that's not productive.
@submission2tIn 10 seconds, 10 seconds. It was Rahm Emanuel who said, you never want a serious crisis go to waste. And this is exactly what happens. Every time there's a protest, it gets hijacked and repurposed for something else. And the initial onset is for something completely different than what the media portrays it. So just keep that in mind.
Ian MalcolmVery correct. Rahm Emanuel, son of a literal Israeli terrorist who helped to set up the nation of Israel. Isn't that curious? Let's go to Mike Thorne.
@natnewsnetworkIan, I got to go. Let me have two more sentences.
Ian Malcolm30 seconds with a timer from JoAnn and then we're going to go to Thorne.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, so I address all these points that truth teller... You didn't address shit, you're a hypocrite, low IQ... Yeah, yeah, okay. No, no, no.
@joann_marieTruth, truth, truth, truth. Oh my God, guys. 30 seconds and it's going to be only Veritas and then we're going to go to Thor and he's going to make all the... You're from a cock state controlled by Jews.
@truthtellerftmYou can't do anything about it because you're full of power.
@submission2tNo. Truth, let him speak.
Ian MalcolmI told you we should have gone to Thor.
@mighty6thorYeah, Veritas.
@natnewsnetworkVery low equals control here.
@mighty6thorVeritas, stick around. Look, man, you have a lot to be proud of. Unfortunately, you're public enemy number one by these fucking evil Jews. And by the way, Dr. Strange is right about Rahm Annual, but wasn't it Peter Littlefinger Baelish who said chaos is a ladder, right? For more information visit www.fema.org
@mighty6thorControl Us, you guys probably all saw what RFK Jr. said, was it yesterday? Unbelievable. Yeah, we didn't listen to Dr. Fauci six years ago, and now we've got a global measles outbreak. Holy shit, is there any hope at all? But, you know, Veritas, and by the way, I respect Truth, a little too cerebral for his own good at times.
@mighty6thorSometimes I think when I hear him speak, I need to... Hunt, track this dude down and give him a testosterone injection or something. He sounds like such an emasculated pussy, but that's just my own sarcasm coming through. So Veritas, look, you have a lot to be proud of, man. It took the whole communist and capitalistic worlds to come together to destroy Hitler's Germany, right?
@mighty6thorAnd that's why they have you under thumb and foot and insert appendage here, right? So, I mean, it's just unfortunate. I hate to say it. The only way out of this, and again, I'm in San Francisco and so many people here get uncomfortable with what I'm about to say. And the only solution is the rise of anti-Semitism and these fascistic right-wing governments that we're seeing the beginnings of.
@mighty6thorThe problem is, I think that too is all by Jewish design. I think they want a Marine Le Pen. They want a right-wing leader in every Western nation so that they become nationalists.
@joann_marieGuys, we're going to go to Thor and then he's going to make us laugh a little bit more. Go for it, Thor.
@mighty6thorWell, I mean, so look, it's probably...
@joann_marieDouble nits.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, can I finish my point?
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, no. Veritas, I tried to be respectful. I'm going to remove you from the panel. I appreciate that it's good to have a counterbalance or weight, but this is not productive. This is not Veritas fights with all people that suggest anything positive about Muslims. I'm getting really tired of it. I've tried to go to Mighty Thor for the last 10 minutes.
Ian MalcolmCan we please have a little bit of respect? And if you don't, I'm going to remove you from the space.
@natnewsnetworkYeah, you said I get 30 seconds. I was interrupted.
Ian MalcolmI can't believe that you did that. The audacity, the arrogance is astonishing. Veritas, no more. I just explicitly asked you. So that we could try and continue the conversation productively, right? Have an ounce of social awareness for the love of Christ. Let's go to Thor.
@mighty6thorYeah, look, I'm Veritas. Stick around, man. I don't think your house is on fire. Five more minutes. Not from me. I'm sure you can talk after I finish or somebody else does. But look, it's going to have to be a true right-wing nationalistic movement from every country. Maybe, God forbid, Germans need a revolution. The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar for President, Akunjee
@mighty6thorYou know, the audience, by the way, 600 people in this space, they love seeing a Jerry, or hearing, we can't see anything, but seeing the little emojis and hearing this Jerry Springer online forum in these spaces because they get to live vicariously through these people who are stressed out and furious and they probably, it's a bit of schadenfreude, I just stole, used your almighty word, Veritas, schadenfreude means...
@mighty6thorSo many of you put two and two together. They're lighting fires all over the fucking world. They're making communities because they can therefore buy up property per these corrupt Zionist leaders. Javier Mille of Argentina as just one. Mark Carney of Canada as another. It's fucking unbelievable. And they kill who they want with impunity.
@mighty6thorI just can't believe that we live in a Jewish... For more information, visit www.fema.org
@mighty6thorPer baby boomers of Christian Zionists, I think 75% of them supported Israel. If you look at the Zoomers, Gen Z, it's only like 24% to 35% of them that support Israel, and that number is dwindling. So there is hope. The problem is even 10 years from now, half of the baby boomers will have died off. I don't think you're ever going to change their psychology, their politics.
@mighty6thorThey will always support Israel. They had it too good. Post-World War II, and I think revolution. What did JFK say? Those who don't allow for peaceful revolution will make violent revolutions inevitable. And I think that's where we're headed. It might take a decade. Everybody should batten down the hatches and be prepping to some extent.
@mighty6thorEven the Pope said that prior to Leo here. But yeah, the Pope is a pussy. I know, I'm blaspheming. Fuck it, the older you get...
@mighty6thorWe haven't been bombed into oblivion. The Arabs, Muslims, and Christians have. We did participate, but again, that's because these Zionist Jews have hijacked all of our governments. I'm only stating the obvious. Everybody knows this. I can't believe we let it happen. I can't believe RFK Jr., for example, doesn't have enough personal pride to stand up and do what is right.
@mighty6thorYou're almost dead anyway, dude. You're 72. Your uncle and father were...
@mighty6thorthe very control of their government, then the next best thing or big thing will take over. Okay. I made no sense. I put everybody on an acid trip accidentally. Thanks.
Ian MalcolmIt was aimed at points and at trying to describe the problems that we see, not at any person that is up here. And it was relatively free, minus the attack of the Pope. But for what it's worth, even that, right? You did it in jest a little bit. You called yourself a blasphemer. See, that's having the awareness to read the room.
Ian MalcolmI always love the mighty Thor, the entertaining delivery with which he presents.
@mighty6thorAnd the crux of my message is simply, duh, it's the Jews. Okay, we got to get over this Muslim versus... Fuck, that's the title of the room. I don't know how well it'll work, but people need to be brave and realize these people are fucking evil. And I even saw Danielle. I follow this guy, Daniel, our Middle East. The emojis mean nothing, but for him to give a thumbs down when I said anti-Semitism, it doesn't mean killing them.
@mighty6thorIt just means, you know, assigning blame to those who actually deserve it. Can we do that? Are we just going to fucking sit there and be so politically correct, so conscious of offending other people's motherfucking feelings, or we're going to let ourselves be destroyed and our boys' penises cut off and our daughters' breasts motherfucking mastectomized or whatever the fuck the FBAs might say?
@mighty6thorWake up, get your bowls back. By the way, I turned 56 last week, and I put myself, with two doctors' permission, on TRT, on testosterone replacement therapy. TRT. Boy, boy, that's for ACDC, okay? So get with the program, kids, and lift motherfucking weights. One more thing, the good news is Gen Z.
Ian MalcolmNo, so here's giving my call is that Mighty Thor is going to get to play in whatever time he has available. So Mighty Thor, you can play referee here as things likely are not able to follow the wonderful delivery that you had because there's going to be, I'm sure... Additional conflict and tension. So, Mighty Thor, at any point, you can always jump in with your humor.
Ian MalcolmI'm going to certainly leave you up here and consider yourself an honorary co-host of the conversation here to try and keep some kind of decorum, if at all possible. And I think it's probably reasonable to say that because Thor just was, let's say, critical of young people.
@mighty6thorNow that I'm officially on steroids, I can fucking rage with the steroids with your permission. Go ahead.
Ian MalcolmYes, okay, so we will have some intellectual steroidisms, right, some roid rage, but only intellectually, and I just say that because keeping the decorum of the space is, it's something, right, requiring a full-time job. And I also, I can recognize that Dr. Strange has a very specific framing, right? He is looking at this through the lens of Muslims are good and can be integrated with Christians and all those other kind of things.
Ian MalcolmI look at it more pragmatically, and I say, I don't know the dynamics of their compatibility, but what I do know is that right now we face Soran, and I am really tired of losing because we keep squabbling with one another. And for what it's worth, let's have the ability to look in the mirror. And I know that I'm sure some of the things that Truth said might have been inflammatory to some people, but let's be real.
Ian MalcolmThere were lots of Christian wars amongst one another where they killed each other. And those were largely, it's worth noting, driven by either politics or other mechanisms. I wouldn't be surprised. There are nefarious maybe financial backings that might have had some kind of entanglements. But either way, right, somebody should be able to say that.
Ian MalcolmAnd if you can't suggest that the British have done wrong, the Christians have done wrong, the Muslims have done wrong, everybody has done wrong, then you're probably a little bit overly sensitive, right? So we should be able to do all of those above. That being said, let's go to Dayal, who's been up here very patiently for a long time.
@ourmiddleeastI swear to God, I was about to leave. I'm really patient, but it's worth to be patient for you guys because it's a very important topic. And okay, I need to collect my thoughts, but I want to make a few comments. I think Veritas left. He's obviously from Germany. I know his mindset exactly because I was born and raised in Germany.
Ian MalcolmI know how... And I removed him from the stage. I just want to clarify because I like to be transparent.
@ourmiddleeastFine, fine. But I noticed that he left. But what I want to tell you all that his mindset is exactly the mindset of Anders Breivik from Norway who killed 77 people. And this is very dangerous. He's the product of... Social engineering of brainwashing. And it's a specific kind of brainwash. They really believe like that.
@ourmiddleeastAnd they have this hate inside and then it results like Anders Breivik or what happened in New Zealand, the attack on the mosque. And it's very dangerous. And the reason why the hate... Thank you very much.
@ourmiddleeastEven the game Call of Duty, who is the enemy? It's always the Russian a bad guy and Muslim looking person or West Asian looking person. And these games are designed in a specific way. Like, you know how absurd this is actually to play a game where you have to kill and when you aim to the head, you get even more points.
@ourmiddleeastThis is all part of this. And yeah, it's... And even the movie 300. It's also not by chance that like or Argo, it's always to show the Iranians as evil and bad. And this is also part of the brainwashing. These movies are stuck somewhere and it does something with you. So now I want to share something. I had visitors from the States, from Utah specifically, to American Christians.
@ourmiddleeastThey visited me in my hometown in Istanbul, in Turkey. And I want to share with you how that went. And I think there is a lot for all of you here. Because, yeah, some details about them. They're both Trump supporters and they see them part as the MAGA movement. And before landing, His name is Chris, but you don't know which Chris, so I need to use the name.
@ourmiddleeastHe said, Dan, I'm pretty much totally aligned with what's going on these days, but please don't talk bad about Trump because Lindy is very... His wife's name, whatever. You don't know who they are. Last name, whatever. She's very pro-Trump, so don't talk about it. And I think that was really weird to say. I mean... Among friends, you should be able to talk about everything, right?
@ourmiddleeastAnd anyways, no hard feelings. I wasn't going to talk about that anyways. So it's not on the top of my agenda. Anyway, so here they are. They come to a predominantly Muslim country for the first time in their life. And that was really an interesting experience. And so how did it start? So we visited, of course, the Hagia Sophia.
@ourmiddleeastAnd that was the first place that we visited. And when they answered, they prayed. And they totally liked this experience. And then we talked about it. Okay, it used to be a church. And what happened then? And we talked about that history. And then I reminded them. I said, yes. It used to be a church, absolutely. Then it was turned into a mosque and then into a museum for 80 years.
@ourmiddleeastAnd now it's again a house of worship. And I said, in Spain, there was also a big mosque and it was turned into a cathedral. It also happened. And you know what's worse? When it's actually destroyed. When it's kept and maintained, I think it's still a symbol of respect. And then I took them to churches that are older than...
@ourmiddleeastLike the state of Israel and they worship there, they prayed there because Istanbul has a Christian minority. There is an island, the Prince Islands, and all the citizens there are Christians and they live and coexist there. We have actually many Christian churches in Istanbul that are active. We have a quite large Christian community and they are well respected throughout the society and they notice that too.
@ourmiddleeastAnd then we visited several historic places and they learned and they saw. And then Lindy said, like throughout the stay, she said, you know, all these years we believe that Muslims are all terrorists. She said, you know, Chris' family thinks that all of you guys are terrorists. But she said, now that I spent my time here, like,
@ourmiddleeastOver a week, I really see it in a different way. You know, like they openly wear their cross and they saw churches and they went and entered and they experienced the kindness of the people. Like, for example, we went to a restaurant and she said, you know, I never had this, but this lady didn't only show me where the restaurant is, she entered with me in and opened the sink for me.
@ourmiddleeastLike these kind of kindnesses are things that she noticed. And how do you learn these things? By traveling. That's why traveling is very important. Like if you only look at the black mirror in front of you and learn from the things that are shown to you, how will you know? And then she said, and that's very mind blowing.
@ourmiddleeastShe quoted Ben Shapiro. She said, you know, Ben Shapiro said this and that and this and that about you guys. I said, well, Ben Shapiro is paid to say these things. Like he is... This is his whole function. And I bet he didn't even visit any West Asian country. And this is just how it is. And in the history, and I agree with Ian, there is bad and good on every side.
@ourmiddleeastBut I think it's better and more important if you focus on the good of our history. For example, what I was going to tell, Veritas, to look at my timeline, and I shared a picture of a German engineer, and his name is Meissner, and he, Heinrich August Meissner, he was a German Christian engineer who spent decades living on Ottoman lands, and he worked for the Sultan, who was a Caliph at the same time.
@ourmiddleeastSo imagine, You are a Christian, a German, and you work for a Muslim Sultan Khalif. Isn't it strange? It's not supposed to happen, right? But that's what it is. It happened. And he built the railway connecting Damascus and Medina. And he even, after the First World War, he was even buried in Istanbul. And he received, because of his deep and sincere affection,
@ourmiddleeastFor Turkey and the Turkish people, he was granted the title Pasha. And that's also something most people don't know. And like everybody thinks of Germany of the Hitler era, but nobody knows about the prior history. For example, Kaiser Wilhelm II, he was the German emperor, Protestant Christian, and he cultivated ties to the Ottoman Empire.
@ourmiddleeastAnd he visited Jerusalem. And he is the one who actually built the Church of Redeemer in Jerusalem. And many people didn't know that. And he was actually the grandchild of Queen Victoria. And this adds like just a few sentences about history here. So the Germans run the project of the railway and the British lost the project.
@ourmiddleeastAnd the British weren't happy about this because at that time, oil became a very important commodity. So they realized how important it is for industrialization. It's still important today. I mean, you obviously feel it when you go and fill up your gas, right? Your petrol for your car. And at that time, they didn't like that they won this project.
@ourmiddleeastAnd what did they do? They sent Lawrence, a British spy, and they even made proudly a movie about him, Lawrence of Arabia. And... He caused a civil war and they blew up those railways. And it wasn't a war with Christians against Muslims. Why? Because the Ottomans even sent aid to the Irish when they were starving, right?
@ourmiddleeastSo it was Sultan Abdulmejid and it was in 1840s where he helped Christians when they were starving. So let that sink in for a moment, right? So, and these wars.
@truthtellerftmThe Irish as well during the potato famine.
@submission2tAnd the British didn't want that to happen, but they did it. They did it bypassing the British. I don't know if you know that.
@ourmiddleeastExactly. Yeah, it is true. The British, the Sultan initially offered 10,000 pounds and Queen Victoria wasn't happy because she saw this as offensive. because she didn't want him to send more than her. So what he did instead, he sent in secret five additional ships with more money and more food. And that's the detail that you pointed out.
@ourmiddleeastThank you. So initially, what I'm trying to tell you all, initially, this division that we have wasn't about religion. It was about power, about dominance, about resources. And it still is. But what they did is, and what is really genius in an evil way, is they sent a spy named Gertrude Bell. Gertrude Bell. And they call her actually the uncrowned queen of Iraq, of modern Iraq.
@ourmiddleeastSo she is the one who actually was the mind behind the Iraq that we know today. And so they split the whole region into little countries, gave us all flags and said, okay, you need to be now like, they spread nationalism. Don't get me wrong. We can all be proud of our heritage. Totally nothing wrong with that. But you know what's the biggest issue?
@ourmiddleeastTo be proud. And extreme nationalistic. And that's the danger. While in Europe, they don't have that. And like a French could marry a German and a German could marry an Italian. But in West Asia, it's almost impossible to marry another. You have to be also like an Emirati cannot marry a Qatari or an Omani. Like they have to be from the same country.
@ourmiddleeastLike it's unthinkable, even though they speak the same language and they're the same race. Where are you getting this from? That's not true. No, actually from my actual experience.
@truthtellerftmBut you know, there's no laws in place to prevent it. Yeah, there are no laws in place.
@ourmiddleeastI didn't say that there is a law. There is no law needed. The people are indoctrinated like that. And maybe Riot can confirm this. So if you're an Arab from Egypt, you can never marry a woman from Saudi Arabia. Thank you very much.
@ourmiddleeastWhen they say, okay, I'm French, I'm German, I'm Italian. If you start a war against one of them, they will respond in the same way.
@truthtellerftmThere's literally 30,000 Turkish troops in Qatar right now to defend against Saudi Arabia. You don't know what you're talking about, Cyrus. I'm sorry. You should just stop talking. You sound stupid. They intermarry all the time. And there's no laws in place. It's not culturally prohibited. They travel to each other's countries all the time, too.
@ourmiddleeastThese states are all tied to support the same causes.
@joann_marieI know someone from UAE who married a Turk. I don't even know a lot of people.
@truthtellerftmYou have no idea. Just stay in your lane. You really don't know what you're talking about.
@ourmiddleeastYou are very disrespectful. I'm sorry to say it, but I'm sorry, but you are the moron. You have no idea. I lived there for five years. I lived there for five years. I I know exactly how things work.
@truthtellerftmYou know all the cultural customs because you lived there for five years.
@ourmiddleeastAs a man, you are allowed to marry a foreign woman and you get all the benefits. And your kids have the same citizenship. But a woman who marries a non-Emirati or a non-Qatari or a non-Saudi, the children will not get the citizenship. That's a fact in your face. And now don't interrupt me. That's not a faith thing. That's a law of the land.
@ourmiddleeastJust shut up.
Speaker 7Are you going to mute this cockroach or not?
@truthtellerftmI muted waiting for you to finish.
@joann_marieNo, we're not going to do ad homs.
Ian MalcolmAll right, guys. We got an ad hom going in both directions. It was the cockroach first, the commentary on the hair, and I'll let the audience decide which was funnier. But nonetheless, I was actually, so Danielle, and I think what we're going to have to do, Joanne, is probably set a timer going forward for some of this.
Ian MalcolmDanielle, you had a lot, a lot, a lot of time. So if you could please bring it to a conclusion, that would be wonderful.
@joann_marieYeah, I'm going to put the timer from now on. Okay, sorry guys. Go for it, Danielle, and you have 30 seconds.
@ourmiddleeastOkay, so to wrap it up, the division and this whole situation that we have today is originally not because of religion. It's not. And the reason why we think that it is, it's easier to divide us. And it is all for economic reasons. And Robert Kennedy Jr., he even mentioned what this is about. He says that, yeah, the state of Israel is an aircraft carrier in the region for us.
@ourmiddleeastTo control the oil and gas resources. And that's the reality. And he said that if we are not there, China and Russia are going to own it all. And that's the actual story. The rest is fairytale Disneyland. And that's all I have to say.
@joann_marieWell, I think sectarianism is a problem. And also there is a lot of Christian scientists who actually want to bring the apocalypse and bring the Antichrist. So there is religion in there. Anyway, thank you so much, Dayal. We're going to go to the next person. Oh, my God. Okay. I'll just start. Go for it.
@ceanndachWell, so the first thing that I would just like to point out is I think that everybody should sort of just take a breath and just relax for a moment. Bravo. I think that what's funny is the things that everybody are arguing about. are all tangentially caused by the Jewish supremacy. And the way that I see history is that post Second Temple, the Jews were angry that the Romans destroyed their temple and that they became Christians.
@ceanndachAnd I think that they used their influence in Arabia to inspire Islam to attack Christianity because they don't have an army. They had the Bar Kokhba revolt and they failed. They got destroyed. So they don't have an army. They don't have people. So they then change their strategy to, well, we're going to create golems out of other people and have them fight each other to fight our battles for them.
@ceanndachPlease, please stop. Please stop. Please stop.
@truthtellerftmI don't know what you're talking about.
@ceanndachI do know what I'm talking about.
@truthtellerftmNo, because when was the Barkova Revolt? What year was that? What century was that? Do you even know?
@ceanndachThe second century, 132.
@truthtellerftmOkay, when was Islam established?
@ceanndachWhat, sixth century, I believe?
@truthtellerftmWait, so what did they do for four or five hundred years when they had no army and couldn't do fuck all? Well, that's what they did. They did, they did, they did. So there was no Islam they could use, right? So that's why you're full of shit.
Ian MalcolmWait, but hang on, just out of curiosity. So was he correct or at least directionally accurate truth with both of those dates? Yes, he was.
@ceanndachNo, no, your logic truth is to gish-gallop people when they start talking and say a bunch of things as fast as you can so that they don't...
Ian MalcolmBlowing the whistle. So what we'll do, we'll let Belteshazzar go.
@truthtellerftmIan, can you explain to me when Christianity was established as the official...
Ian MalcolmSo why don't we ask that question then? So Belteshazzar, I don't know where he was going to go with that one necessarily.
@truthtellerftmIt was the Romans that kicked out the Jews, not the Christians. See how stupid he is? Hang on, hang on.
Ian MalcolmSo much up comes today. He was correct with both of the dates. So the point that he was making.
@truthtellerftmBut it wasn't Christians, though. They were Romans. The Romans kicked out the Jews, not the Christians. The Romans were in charge. Romans were persecuting Christians during that time, too, along with the Jews. Christianity didn't become official state religion. It wasn't even recognized until 325. Council of Nicaea then became official state religion in 380.
@truthtellerftmSo once again, he's full of shit. He's just concocting facts out of his asshole to try to claim that the Jews retained Muslims as an army to go and... Is it my turn or is he just going to veto everybody that he doesn't like? That's why you have no idea what you're talking about.
Ian MalcolmWell, hang on. Let's see where he goes with this. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. So, JoAnn, let's do a timer. We'll do it for three minutes. If anybody finds anything incorrect with what Belteshazzar is saying, please take a note of it, and at the end of the three minutes, we will let anybody who has a critique jump in with the critique, and we'll ask that they are just specific with the critique, because otherwise... Ian, may I add something to it?
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, no, no.
@submission2tI'm just going to... No, no. I'm adding on to what you're saying.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no.
@submission2tI didn't say anything.
Ian MalcolmNo, I know, I know. We're going to go back to Belteshazzar for three minutes. Ready, set, go.
@ceanndachI appreciate it. So where I was going with this is that what you have is that they don't have an army, right? So the strategy that they developed is that they are going to cause other people to fight for them. It's the same thing they've been doing since the temple was destroyed. is finding ways to use financial or political means to pit groups against each other.
@ceanndachAnd they pushed for Islam to do it for a long time. And then once that ultimately didn't work out, then they switched over to Europe. And they infiltrated Europe, and they started the transatlantic slave trade, and they set up all the international banks. And then now Christianity is attacking Islam. The shoe is on the other foot.
@ceanndachThe point that I was trying to make is that arguing about all of that and where these two groups should be or what they should think about each other throughout all of that is ultimately a flawed foundation because we've never actually had a point in time where we actually just sit down together with each other. And figure out what it is that we want to do or how we want to interact.
@ceanndachThere's always been this third party nebulous influence that has been trying to pit us against each other. You know, just as was stated earlier, you could say that, oh, well, the Christian Zionists, they represent Christianity. By that same token, you could say, well, the militant Muslims represent Islam, right? It's the same argument and it goes both ways.
@ceanndachAnd I think that if the West fell and you took all of the
@ceanndachSo, I mean, arguing about them is kind of pointless. We should shift our focus to understanding how each side has been victimized by Jewish supremacy and realize that we've been pitted against each other and sitting over here and arguing over the little tic-tac grievances about, oh, well, at this time this happened and at that time that happened.
@ceanndachWell, it's quite likely the case that they were behind the influence of that one way or the other. So what's the point in arguing about it? It's like arguing about
@ceanndachAnd you did it in three minutes exactly. Good job.
@joann_marieAnd I agree with everything.
Ian MalcolmAnd look at this, this timer. I don't know, Danielle, I think this was the first time that he was in one of our spaces. I don't know exactly what the time was. I would presume it was maybe 10 minutes or so that he went on. I feel like I got more from Belteshazzar in the first two than I did from that other gentleman in almost 10.
Ian MalcolmAnd yet, because they moved him down, because we've got over roughly a dozen people that are trying to come up on the panel, because I removed him when he was finished. He goes and he says, you failed to manage this space good at all. You have morons interrupting people in disrespectful ways. Thanks for wasting my time.
Ian MalcolmNever again, says the low IQ, at least I believe, individual that didn't recognize how long they were just going on. Let's try to make good points. Let's try to have disagreements on those points. Let's try and keep this engaging and interesting. Right? When you drone on and on and on and on and on, you accomplish effectively nothing because everybody tunes you out.
Ian MalcolmSo Belteshazzar, I always, and I'm glad that Truth came in and he challenged a point. We're going to go to him and let him, if there are kind of a macro thesis that he takes umbrage with. But I appreciate that you came in, that there's a very cohesive theme to your message, right? That is what we need to be sharing more of.
Ian MalcolmSo I can appreciate the way that you delivered that. Now, Truth, You did. You had two questions for him. He seemingly got both of those spot on in terms of the answers. So it's safe to say that he's done a lot of research onto this, maybe as a different frame. But if there is a difference of opinion that you have, can you just kind of walk through some of those without necessarily going at him as a person?
@truthtellerftmNo problem. Okay. So he mentioned the Barkova revolt, saying it was the Christians that pushed them out, defeated them. That's false. Christianity was not the religion of the state. They were still pagan worshipers. All of the emperors were not Christian, so that's fact. And then the other claim he made is after they got kicked out of the Roman Empire, they went to Muslim countries to then go retain Muslim armies to then come back to the Christians.
@truthtellerftmThat's just simply a lie. I asked him, and he didn't get everything right, by the way, because there was no Islam at the time for them to go to. So when they got kicked out, they ended up in the Tartaria area of Eastern Europe, and they ended up in Egypt, neither of which, in fact, Egypt, it can be argued, was Christian.
@truthtellerftmThank you very much.
@truthtellerftmThank you very much for joining us.
@truthtellerftmAnd then the Jews created that opportunity because they felt like they were persecuted. But the other point to be made there is this wasn't a full-on Muslim army. It was a mix of both Muslims, Christians, and others because not everybody had converted. And what happened after 632 A.D. is first they came to North Africa.
@truthtellerftmThey recruited Berber fighters. They didn't all convert right away. It took well over 100-plus years, but they were doing more invasions. They invaded first Persia, then Rome, before they even got to Spain in the 7th century. And this wasn't to just... Thank you very much.
@truthtellerftmAnd then at the last point, if you want to fast forward to what took place in Portugal, what did the Jews do? They got back to the Christians. And they did that from other countries. So they did it from North Africa. They also went to the Netherlands, for instance, which was a Christian country that welcomed Jews. They would end up doing really well in Holland, Christian country.
@truthtellerftmAnd then they were using that country as a base to, again, do piracy and carry out their slavery, transatlantic slave trade. And they were also based out of the Netherlands. So it was a mixed combination. The point to be made is Jews are opportunistic. They'll use any country willing to help them out, just as they would be in leeching off the Netherlands, which they then turn into a superpower.
@truthtellerftmThen they crash it afterwards, and then rise and fall of the British Empire. Now they're doing the same to America. And they've consistently infiltrated Christian churches, just as they've infiltrated Islamic mosques. They've done both. They're opportunistic. But to just paint the Christians as a victim here is just simply a lie, because the Christians have been the aggressors
@truthtellerftmBoth against themselves. I've mentioned the Christian. I don't want to keep repeating these points. You know, Christian versus the Protestant, the Reformations, all that 30-year war. And of course, all the wars between, say, you know, it was Britain and Holland. They had four wars. You know, Britain and Spain had multiple wars.
@truthtellerftmBritain and France had multiple wars over several hundred years. These were all essentially Christian countries going out and killing hundreds of millions of themselves. Why are the Muslims to be blamed for that, right? I mean, you've got to call a spade a spade here. While the Ottoman Empire was doing its thing, certainly not being innocent either.
@truthtellerftmSo I'll call crimes out on both sides, but you've got to be consistent here is all I'm trying to say. That's it.
@ceanndachDo I get to respond?
@truthtellerftmWe'll go for a minute. You didn't know that the Roman Empire wasn't Christian in the first, second century? You didn't know that?
@tonywakuuWho traded more slaves, Muslims or Jews during the Transatlantic slave trade?
@truthtellerftmSo you're talking about, it's funny that you want to mention Created more slaves than any Jew that you can name Tony, Tony, it's not, it wasn't your turn to think Tony, you know what's funny to me? First of all, the Muslims have only been around for 1400 years The Jews have been around, they claim, for 3000 years They've been doing slavery their entire lives So they've had twice the head start So you're not going to count the millions of slaves But we're not talking about And you're not going to also count the fact that during the Roman Empire Slavery was allowed Hold on, slavery was allowed
@truthtellerftmYou're aware of that, right? During the Roman Empire, they kept slaves. Can you let me respond?
@joann_marieCan you let me respond? Guys, we're going to go to...
Ian MalcolmI don't think we've got a chance to respond because I think Tony jumped in. Let's try to minimize that as best we can. And I do think it's productive, right? And truce commentary there around the time, at the time of Christ. Right, when Christ is walking around, we're the Roman Christian. If anybody can't figure out the obviousness of that answer, I don't know what to tell you.
@truthtellerftmWell, I mean, there's stupid people who don't know the history, and they just say stupid things to create an argument.
@ceanndachThey don't realize, oh, but the Romans were the biggest persecutors of Christianity.
@joann_marieOkay, Tony, if you interrupt one more time, I'm going to drop you, okay?
@truthtellerftmTony's just mad because the Jews persecuted his people for so long, but he wants to blame the Muslims because he doesn't have the balls to call out the Jews.
@joann_marieHe does simp for Jews a lot. It's really weird.
@truthtellerftmHe's on their spaces all the time. He's a nappy-headed house negro.
@joann_marieOkay, guys.
@tonywakuuI've never simp for Jews.
@joann_marieTony, if you interrupt one more time, I'm going to... You're a Jew simp. Go for it, but you have two minutes.
@ceanndachWell... So first off, I don't recall saying anything about Christianity. I said that the Romans kicked them out. If I said Christianity, I misspoke. And don't call me stupid. You don't know me. You don't know what I know. Balthazar, may I kindly request that you focus on what you were going to say? Because if you go back and forth with truth, it's just not going to end.
@submission2tHe's going to respond and then we're going to be in this shit show. So please just focus on what you were going to say.
Speaker 8And truth, please do not disrupt them.
@submission2tPlease do not disrupt them, truth.
@truthtellerftmJust focus on what I said that was wrong. Don't make it personal. What do you disagree with what I said?
@ceanndachMy only point, right, is if you want to have a debate with people, let them make their points.
@truthtellerftmSo I said nothing wrong. You can't find one flaw in my argument. Thank you.
@ceanndachJust let me... I just want you to hear me for a second. I just want you to hear me for a second, Truth, right? If you want to have a debate with people, that's fine. And if you want to contest a point that I've made, that's fine. But that doesn't require you to interrupt me. You can just make a note and then afterwards you can say, hey, you know, you said this and I think that that's wrong and this is why.
@ceanndachAnd then I can respond to it and we can have an adult conversation.
@joann_marieLet's focus on that.
@ceanndachSo I don't recall saying that Roman was Christian at the time. They weren't Christian until like the 3rd or 4th century.
@truthtellerftmSo let's get back to the Christians. That's exactly what you said. And you mentioned, referred to Markova Revolt. No, I said that the Roman used to destroy their temple.
@ceanndachI said, we came in. That's fine. That's fine.
@truthtellerftmYou're being a liar. You're in bad faith now.
@ceanndachNo, I'm not a bad figure.
@joann_marieMaybe I misspoke. No, Belteshazzar, go for it. You have one minute, and then we're going to go to Ryan.
@truthtellerftmAnd you're just embarrassing yourself at this point. You're just talking. You're embarrassing.
@joann_marieOh, my God. Okay, go for it, Belteshazzar. One minute.
@truthtellerftmHe's crushing you, Bernie. Look at him. Flames.
@ceanndachThat's real team building.
@truthtellerftmThere's no team building with low IQ retards like you're a fucking embryo. There's no team to be built here. You're retarded. Truth, truth.
@ceanndachSo my point was that if you're aware of the... No, truth, look at truth, seriously.
@briciusxTruth, let him speak, man.
@ceanndachWell, you know, those who talk over others when they're trying to speak, they just do that because they don't like to hear the truth. And yeah, I do have a stutter. It's called a brain issue. So I would appreciate it if you don't use that to insult me when it happens to come out. That's real adult of you. So if you're familiar with the Kabbalah, right, they even write in there that they blame the Romans and their descendants who are Christians, Christianity.
@ceanndachThey blame them for the destruction of the temple and they blame them and it's their job to eradicate them. There's a prayer that they found also in the the Cairo Genzia fragments that even says that they're praying to God to destroy all the Nazarenes. Which is the Christians. So, yes, they were influential and they did try to push Islam to destroy Christianity.
@ceanndachThat's not really hard to see. And that's the only point that I was making. And you're trying to conflate that what happened in the 8th century and beyond is somehow tied back to a statement about the destruction of the temple and me saying Christianity was there. That's just false. You're making a false correlation and then you're insulting me.
@ceanndachThat's not... I don't insult anybody and you shouldn't do it either.
@joann_marieYou said I was stupid.
@truthtellerftmWell, you are stupid. You admitted you're retarded. So now let me tell you. You said it was the Christian.
@joann_marieOh, my God.
@submission2tNo. Truth, you know, you're harming your own position by doing that. Because he keeps interrupting me. I waited for him to finish, Dr. Strange. Yeah, but don't make personal attacks.
Ian MalcolmLet's leapfrog over to Dr. Atousa coming out of left field with this one. We'll just kind of redirect.
@joann_marieHi. And I also got to thank a couple of people.
@yourvitalitydocHi, everyone. Hi, Joann. Hi, Joann. Thank you so much for the mic. Oh, my goodness. I am having a vertigo because since I joined and I wanted to speak, so much has shifted from the original conversation. But I think I can recall what I was going to say. Yeah, so when it comes to crimes committed by people of a certain faith, whether it's in Europe or anywhere in the world, I think someone already mentioned you can't blame it on their faith and make a stereotype.
@yourvitalitydocBecause if we do that, then my question is the people who were on the stage, maybe they're no longer here. When they talk about, oh, Muslims, you know, it's the Muslims, the immigrants that are committing these crimes, etc. Were they kind of objecting or raising their voices against the Christian politicians who are on the Epstein files and that they were raping and torturing and tormenting children?
@yourvitalitydocThank you so much for joining us.
@yourvitalitydocThank you for having me.
@yourvitalitydocInstead of this, you know, divisive, basically, narrative that is trying to basically just divide Muslims from Christians, black from white, whatever, whatever, whatever, red and blue, etc., etc., you know it. Why don't we take a deeper look at as cause and effect? So let's go back to, like, let's say four years ago or even to September 11th, right?
@yourvitalitydocWe can all see how suddenly all the blame was placed on people that actually didn't commit that atrocity. Tucker Carlson has made a nice documentary about it. But for such a long time, the Muslims are the terrorists and this and that. Whereas now everybody knows Al Qaeda was created by CIA. ISIS was created by CIA and Mossad.
@yourvitalitydocIn fact, 20 years ago, I saw a picture. of, oh my God, what was his name? One of the senators, he died from a brain tumor.
@mighty6thorJohn McCain or Ted Kennedy?
@yourvitalitydocMcCain, McCain, thank you, McCain. I saw a picture of him with Jolani when he was the head of Al-Qaeda. And back then there wasn't any AI generated pictures or anything like that. And you know what? All of my friends... We're saying, no, that cannot be true, la la la la. But then everybody now, thank God, has an awakening that even ISIS was created by the, for the most part, but CIA, a part of it, you know, all those Christian Zionist politicians who wanted the Muslim world to be blamed for all these things.
@yourvitalitydocAnd obviously every religion has their fanatics. Thank you very much.
@yourvitalitydocAnd going back to what is God called in Islam, I think Raed mentioned that briefly two or three hours ago. Jesus spoke Aramaic. I mean, for all those Christians that have been going to evangelical churches, that is basically propaganda.
@joann_marieAlso, Dr. Atousa, please let us know. You've been going on for four and a half minutes.
@yourvitalitydocOkay, thank you. So I'm going to just say this and I guess just drop the mic.
@yourvitalitydocIn Aramaic, God is called Allah or Elaha. Allahi or Allahi is my God. And Elohim in Hebrew is called God. In Islam is Allah. So you see they're all from the same source, the root of the word. So alliances can be made between Muslims and Christians, obviously, but we don't have to go and revisit all the atrocities done by the Christians and the Muslims in the history of humanity, right?
@yourvitalitydocWe can't do that if we're going to make alliances. I landed there.
Speaker 4Excellent. Thank you so much for coming up. All right.
Ian MalcolmAnd well, I would agree, right, to that statement. I think it's really valuable, Dr. Sousa, that... Thank you very much.
Ian MalcolmAnd so that idea of being fanatical, if anything, we should be fanatically trying to figure out how to make the world better. That should be mission number one, and that should be able to supersede the animus that we might have towards anybody and everybody, which is why, for what it's worth, I've got a lot of issues with Jewish supremacy, in case anybody didn't know, right?
Ian MalcolmBut I'm perfectly comfortable if a Jewish individual comes in and says, yes. That is the problem. I am with you. How do we dismantle this system that's destroying the homeland that traditionally was, let's say, Western Christian and white and that was Middle Eastern and Muslim, right? Let's figure out how to solve those things, and I'll do that with anybody and everybody.
Ian MalcolmThat being said, why don't we go to Mr. Dan Bilzerian, who has been in here, I kid you not, for two or three hours patiently with their hand up. Let's go to him, and then we will check in with Ginger.
@electbilzerianHey guys, great space. I think this is a much needed conversation. I think it needs to happen more too.
@electbilzerianSo I've been thinking about this for a very long time and I've had a lot of conversations with some big Muslim leaders, even Soneko, who I wasn't able to make any progress with, unfortunately. But the Muslim Christian Alliance, it's... It's such a complex problem as this conversation shows, but I think if you were to frame it in this way.
@electbilzerianSo imagine you're an Islamic leader in the United States. Set the stage for a moment. You have the Middle East being taken over by Israel through the United States. That's problem number one, if you care about the Middle East, right? Problem number two is the reality is that the West has problems with Islamic demographics perpetuated by Jewish social engineers.
@electbilzerianSo you have to contend with the other fact that the West... It took a lot to social engineer the West to become hyper-accommodating, globalist-y diversity. That was massive amounts of Jewish propaganda to get white people to be so accommodating and trustworthy. And I mean, it's an epidemic how some white people Will put themselves in situations in bad areas, parts of the city, and be blind to the threat that different races can pose from different cultures and be so... You know how it is.
@electbilzerianYou just see it all the time, especially with liberal women. So if I was like a Islamic social engineer and I was thinking, okay, what can I do about this? Because white people are going to snap back eventually. The brainwashing that has allowed the accommodation is going to go away. It's going to snap back. And Jews are going to help perpetuate that as much in the direction of Islam as they can.
@electbilzerianAnd try to shield themselves as being the cause of it. And they might be successful if we don't do something about it because they hold all of the power at the top and they are able to continue to trickle down the propaganda and keep funneling money into keeping things the way they are. But even Jews know that you can't whack a mole
@electbilzerianWhat's inevitable forever? So if I was an Islamic leader, I would do one thing. I would start promoting things like return to the land. I would start speaking up for white people. I would platform white identitarianism and white communities. And I would give that voice To them before the Jews do. Because that's what Jews are trying to do right now.
@electbilzerianThey're trying to use Lucas Gage to bring in some kosher white identity type. So they can satiate us and be the ones to help do that. And what I would do is I would start promoting those causes. And I would offer that olive branch. Because Muslims are a small percentage in the United States. So at some point, if things get bad, you're not going to want the optics that Jews have perpetuated.
@electbilzerianAnd you're not going to fight against that without real world action.
@joann_marie30 seconds.
@electbilzerianSo we have to think like social engineers in an authentic way. Thank you for joining us.
@electbilzerianAnd actually get our homelands back together. It's a trade. You help us get our homeland back from Zionists and Jews, we'll help you do that through organization and voting them out. And I don't think there's another path.
@truthtellerftmCan I respond to that?
@joann_marieAll right. That was beautiful. Thank you so much, Dan.
@truthtellerftmSo I'm not here to counter-signal you. I like a lot of the things you say. I just want to start with that. And look, the only country doing anything about the Jewish problem right now, the Israel problem, is Iran and the Axis resistance. They're being countered by, well, the U.S. and its allies in that region. They're the ones that have bombed Iran, have attacked Iran multiple times.
@truthtellerftmIt's Iran that's attacked Israel multiple times and have tried to create some kind of stability in the region. But unfortunately, aggression has shown up at their doorstep. So your solution, which you think is the only one, it's pie in the sky. Thank you very much.
@truthtellerftmThank you very much.
@truthtellerftmAnd they still do. Turkey still does. Egypt still does. Jordan still does. So I condemn all of that. But this is because they were pushed, persuaded by the West to do so, and also support the petrodollar. They're still complicit for that. So it's Iran, the axis of resistance, is doing something about this Jewish problem before anyone else.
@truthtellerftmAnd they're getting help from Russia and China and North Korea that's doing something about the Jewish problem against the West, which supports the Jewish problem, unfortunately. And by that, I mean the regimes, the governments, and the armies. This is a short-term fix to the problem, not one you're going to have to wait for or think any type of political solution is going to have any semblance of a modicum of difference.
@truthtellerftmIt just won't. So what is making a difference right now is Iran being able to weaken the petrodollar, you know, through, again, controlling the Strait of Hormuz and, of course, weakening Saudi Arabia as well, doing something about the problem as well. Against the axis of resistance that's actively making a difference, none of the efforts from the West.
@electbilzerianSo I would, so this is a really good quote. One of my Muslim brothers showed me. People are of two types. They are either your brothers in religion or your equals in humanity. And I believe it's Imam Ali quote. And I like that quote because no one can know what's going to happen geopolitically. We don't know if Iran is going to do anything to Israel.
@electbilzerianAnd honestly, We have to start thinking about how we change things from the ground up. Anything that lasts, anything that has the capacity to catch fire archetypally has to be on the grassroots level. So that's why rather than extending what we think might happen geopolitically with actors that are so far away from what we can understand as being their actual problems, we don't know what kind of leverage
@electbilzerianThank you very much.
@electbilzerianThank you so much for joining us.
@electbilzerianAnd we have to, since we can do this in the media, we can say things, we can platform things they can't right now. So we're going to extend this olive branch. We're going to call Arvel up and we're going to help fund his lawyer against the Jew suing him. And hey, maybe we're going to get rid of this loudspeaker that people don't like and just start doing those little things.
@electbilzerianAnd you completely take the air, you suck the air out of the room of the Jewish community. Social engineering apparatus and you're thinking about the real social dynamics because if uh you like like like Shibley um you know he i think he has a big role to play i hope in this i think um you know he helps out white people all the time when they have issues but if we were to actually be really proactive about that and and get white people to understand that we
@electbilzerianIt's just out of respect too, right? You say, hey, this is your homeland. We want our homeland back too. This is a trade. It's a really good trade. And it's not going to happen unless white people organize at the grassroots level to start going after Zionist infrastructure. And they could light a fire that is very hard for white people to do at the moment.
@joann_marieIntellectually, all of this. Yes.
@electbilzerianThank you so much for joining us.
@electbilzerianIf we just get one guy at the top, Nick Fuentes, oh man, we're just going to take over the party and top-down fix this. Just trust the plan. We got Gropers infiltrating. Never going to happen. We have to start seeding the things that connect us together. And I really hope that Muslim communities could realize that focusing on white people and platforming that
@electbilzerianAnd we just look at everyone as the enemy, then it's going to be another hyper-racial bloodbath. And I think that needs to be avoided. And I think that these early olive branches in the West would go so far to defeating Jewish supremacy once and for all. And then we'll take all their assets, we'll seize their shit, and everyone's going to get... Alright, go ahead.
@electbilzerianThank you guys.
@submission2tI'd like to make a comment regarding what Dan said, if that's okay with you folks. I don't want to jump.
@joann_marieI'll put it for three minutes. We do have a lot of hands-on requests.
@submission2tI'll probably be less than that. So Dan, I've said this story before and it's worth repeating. Years ago, I had a small franchise and I rented it out. And the guy whom I rented it out was an immigrant. And he was a great guy. He was always paying me on time. Thank you for joining us.
@submission2tI'm going to go back. I'm like, why would you want to leave the U.S. to go back there? Don't you think life is good here? He said, no, my life is far better over there because I have so many more opportunities there. Living here, cost of living is high. I'm barely able to take care of my kids. I want to go in.
@truthtellerftmSo, JoAnn, I want to go check your message.
Speaker 1I clicked send. I had seen Dustin request. I accepted. I just clicked send.
Ian MalcolmHow long will it take for Dustin to interrupt like a little girl? That is verbatim what I had just pressed send. It is unbelievable. Dustin Mimos, you are a lunatic. This is wild, the timing of that. It wasn't even 30 or 45 seconds. It's outrageous. Truth teller is, you know what he is? He's sharing a lot of really good information.
Ian MalcolmYou could have come in here and acted like an adult. You know what you're instead going to do? After interrupting and doing so so predictably that I had just sent the message about that you would behave exactly like that because you're so predictable, right? And yet you're going to go in the purple pill. Oh, I am the most censored man.
Ian MalcolmI'm so suppressed. It's just wild. You act like a Jewish supremacist. You are a very, very effeminate, emotional person. I hope you maybe seek psychological help or counseling. You're welcome to go spam another one of your infographics in the purple pill. And guess what? You can also spam it. Dust it all. Let everybody in on your little secret.
Ian MalcolmYou can spam it from all of your alts that all pretend they're different accounts. And the funniest part about all of it is you accidentally shared the exact same reply from two alts to the same content. And I saw it verbatim. You didn't even change any of the verbiage. You changed just the infographics that you shared on two different handles.
Ian MalcolmAnd the funniest part was that one of the two of them was sharing an image of DustinNemosNewsNetwork.com or whatever that maniacal nonsense is. So you made it so obvious who was behind it. And then the best part is I searched through some of those handles and they had replied to other people saying, you should let Dustin Nemos speak.
Ian MalcolmHe's so smart. You're going around on this app on multiple alts. Thank you for proving your point Ian.
@submission2tBut nevertheless, JoAnn, if you can restart the clock, I'd appreciate it. And I'll make it brief. So nonetheless, this individual went ahead and left and never heard back from him again. I've come across dozens upon dozens of Muslims who are basically looking to go back because the challenge they're facing is that they can't raise children in the West.
@submission2tIn the way that they want with the value systems that they want because there's so much degeneracy. They feel that their kid's going to turn into an alcoholic, a philanderer, all kinds of vices. So they're worried that they can't raise their family in this society. And the economics are not that easy for a lot of people, even middle class is suffering.
@submission2tThe point I'm trying to make is that a lot of immigrants who've come in here in the past 30 years Thank you for joining us.
@submission2tIndian, and then 1.3% is Muslim. And this comprises of around 56 different countries. But the media makes it appear, especially social media, that all of the immigration issue that America is facing is somehow Muslim related. When in fact, they're the smallest minority of them and predominantly like 99% of them who are here are legal.
@submission2tMy take then is that If you end the forever wars, if you focus on making sure that we don't go into another war in Iran, that in and of itself will solve many of these problems as it relates to Muslims. Because I can guarantee you, even though many people will have a difference of opinion regarding Syria, but there are people who've actually gone back from Europe and other places back into Syria because there's more economic opportunity for them.
@submission2tThank you very much.
@submission2tFrance has the highest population because for 200 years they've been bringing in North Africans to work in their industries. So they make up about 10% of the French population. But they've been there for at least 200 years, if not longer. So they're not a monolith. The Muslims, they disagree on the smallest of crap you can imagine.
@submission2tThey're not by any means or measure a monolith, just like the West is not a monolith. So I'll end it there, but I hope you get I think if we focus on ending the forever wars, that would be a good first step. Thank you.
@joann_marieThank you so much, Dr. Strange.
@electbilzerianAnd helping extend that. Like I said, if you're a social engineer and you want to start voting out Zionists from the grassroots, you have to help mobilize the demographics capable, that have already been seeded, capable. You have to help push that. The problem is that Jews, social engineered, Blacks, Mexicans, and Muslims, all in a coalition,
@electbilzerianWe have massive amounts of propaganda we have to slice through. And the best way to do that is to focus on white identitarianism, not white supremacy, not white identitarianism. Allow white people to have the same exact social dynamic that the Jews...
@electbilzerianThey used victim status for the other races to bolster their own in-group identities, us versus them But if they were able to do that, and it's very simple Like I said, it's just taking the causes that are already issues And being the group to platform them in the media Because no one can call you a racist if you're a Muslim
@joann_marieWe have so many hands and so many rewards.
@electbilzerianOh, no, no. Go ahead. I'll just leave it at that. I appreciate it, guys. Thank you.
@joann_marieAll right. Thank you so much. And I absolutely loved everything you said. All right. Go for it.
@thelevantinemanYeah. Hi. Thanks. Interesting space. I was laughing earlier when I just came in. So I was telling people how great it is. It's a Sunday. We're going to have to... We're going to have to go, let's go to the Muslim-Christian unity space, you know. And someone like me, like a Lebanese, would know that these things are very hard.
@thelevantinemanYou know, as a secular Lebanese, I've lived in Beirut, so my friends who are Muslims and Christians and local religious people are religious people. People of faith, Christians and Muslims are something. And religious people or something else meaning if I'm a Christian man of faith sincerely in my heart I really really understand the message and if I'm a Muslim and I really in my heart understand the message not
@thelevantinemanI'm going to block the road to show everyone that I'm a good Muslim or the Christian that shows up to church on Sunday and he's corrupt as hell, but he just, you know, goes through the motion for society to think that he's Christian. So yeah, I love, that's why I don't like organized religions, especially, you know, that I grew up in a city
@thelevantinemanWell, bar Hindus and Wahabis, I will unite with anyone on this planet against Jewish supremacy, okay? Even Hindus, I might, you know, be able to... I'm just joking. I'm just being, you know, some humor. But I think as humanity today with what we're facing, especially with, you know, the supremacist tribe and their plans and conspiracies and...
@thelevantinemanand Global Agendas and what they're doing in Palestine and Lebanon and with all their butchery that they're doing I think and how they destroyed your democracies and how what they're planning in your side of the world and doing I think it is 100% required an alliance between Christians and Muslims but the true ones the people of faith the ones that have contemplated what God is
@thelevantinemanThank you very much.
@thelevantinemanWith reason and logic would say, the Christians came too. The Christians landed in South Africa or went to India. No one said that. Or when the US invaded Iraq. None of us said, oh, the Christians came and invaded Iraq. It's just the propaganda and the indoctrination and the manipulation of the message. And it is so insidious, especially in the West and Europe and the US, that somehow whatever a Pakistani does, the Muslim did,
@thelevantinemanOr Moroccan does, as a Muslim did. And I think it doesn't make sense. And I think it is because of... Let's give it to the tribe. Sometimes they're very smart. When you choose a flavor of Islam that is fringe and small and filled with lunatics with a weird fashion sense and sandals and beards and... And then you drop them in the West with their wives covered with only the eyes showing.
@thelevantinemanThat doesn't happen anywhere in the Muslim, from Indonesia to Morocco. Only in Wahhabi Saudi Arabia that this fashion happens, or if you will, when it comes to the women with only the eyes, right? So to pick that strain that is hateful towards everybody else, that is the ideology of the... Takfiris and the terrorists, and somehow...
@thelevantinemanYes, thank you, very quickly. And somehow they have mosques all over the West. It is very clear that it is an agenda. And I think any human being that claims to have an average IQ need to be able to see that. And anyone who claims that understands the JQ and still falls for the hatred is not making sense. It's like if you understand...
@thelevantinemanThank you for the space, Ian. Alliance is what we need because we're facing a tribe that is unhinged and wants to destroy us all, including, mind you, maybe nuclear wars. So this is serious. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmOf course, and Rod, very lovely as always. My brother from another mother who lives in totally different continents, similar religion, and I just say it because there's a lot of people that live in totally different parts of the world that might have a similar religious bend. There's others that have a different religious bend, live in a similar part of the world, right?
Ian MalcolmWe got to figure out, to Rod's point, how do we, let's say, overcome the tribe, which is just continuously deracinating our ability to band together, whether it's on religion, it's on religion,
Ian MalcolmThey will continue just fissuring everything down to nothingness. And so we got to make sure we can do what we can to try and push back on that spiritually, intellectually, politically, etc. Sarad, as always beautifully stated, why don't we go down? I know that I think Tony Walker's been waiting a long time. Then we're going to come back up to Dr.
Ian MalcolmStrange, who has a clip to play. We'll go to Mr. Truth Teller. We'll go down to Ginger. And then I think we'll go to Love Above All. I'm trying to follow the order. But Joanne, if I'm wrong on any of that, please let me know.
@ginger_prontoNo, you were perfect. Thank you, Ian. Ian, sorry, I think it was my turn, but not a problem because I've been waiting for a long time. I'm afraid I will forget what I want to say.
@joann_marieEverybody has been waiting for so long.
@thelevantinemanShe's a Lebanese friend that I told her to come. She's Christian from southern Lebanon. And can we, can you guys with the hands accept that? Ian, I don't mind waiting.
@submission2tI don't mind waiting before you want to go to the gym.
@joann_marieI'm sorry.
@tonywakuuI don't mind either. We can swap me for her if you'd like.
@joann_marieExcellent. Thank you so much, Dani.
@ginger_prontoGo for it, Junior. Thank you so much for the space. Thank you for giving me priority. But really, I was afraid to forget what I want to say. JoAnn, can you give me the time, how much time I have?
@joann_marieYeah, you have four minutes.
@ginger_prontoOkay, and I'm half Lebanese, half Palestinian, by the way, JoAnn. Oh, me too.
@joann_marieNice to meet you.
@ginger_prontoYeah, I know. That's why I'm telling you. First thing, I just want to address a few things Dr. Strange said before. Are you both Catholics? Pardon?
@thelevantinemanAre you both Catholics? You're Protestant, right?
Speaker 6I'm half Catholic and half Protestant. Oh, okay. Okay, cool. But I lean towards Catholicism.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, you and JoAnn are sisters from other mothers. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
@ginger_prontoBut I asked Dr. Strange to receive what I'm going to say, you know, hopefully with open heart and open mind. And I have a few corrections, although I'm Christian. And yes, Christianity had a lot. There's a lot of critique about Christianity throughout history, even till now. But there are a few things you said, Dr. Strange, about jizya and zakat.
@ginger_prontoJizya is not tax. Jizya is a payment for protection. Muslims do not pay jizya. And then the other... Before that, or after that, you said they killed them because they did not pay zakat. Zakat is not jizya. Zakat is one of the five pillars of Islam. These are the few precisions I would have. I know you're Muslim, but I do have a little bit more info about Islam.
@ginger_prontoAnd like Christians who like to embellish Parts of Christianity. What I think is that, for example, لا أكره في الإسلام. You do not force people to enter Islam. However, there is another verse. Either when you're invading a country, a nation, either they convert immediately, Or they pay jizya, and if they don't, you kill them.
@ginger_prontoAnd you know that. Again. And then let's talk about other verses in the Quran, about the Ayat al-Nisa, women. Surah al-Nisa, 24. When they say that you're allowed to have sex. They are protected. Nuhsanat al-Nisa wa milk al-yameen. I'm not sure you are aware of that. I'm sure you are. It means that when you invade a country, the women who are married and Muslims are protected from rape, for example.
@ginger_prontoBut those who are not married and are not Muslims, you can take them as jari. I don't know how to say it. English. So these are the few things I can say. And every person will embellish his own religion. But there are things currently, if we want to talk about current events. 30 seconds. Yeah, okay. Okay, I wanted to talk about the person who was talking about Turkey.
@ginger_prontoTurkey converted many churches to To mosques, that's one. Turkey, during the Ottoman Empire, impoverished all the countries they were occupying. They used to take the land of the people.
@ginger_prontoThere's so much I can say. I just wanted to explain a little bit, and I hope I didn't insult you, Dr. Strange.
@ginger_prontoThat's it. Thank you so much.
@submission2tDo you want to go to the next hand or should I respond?
Ian MalcolmWhy don't you respond and then we'll go to that next hand. I know there's also a video that you wanted to play at some point, Dr.
@submission2tStrange. Regarding what she said about jizya and zakat, I did use the words zakat and jizya. You may not have realized it. The point is, yes, zakat is mandatory on Muslims, but it is a form of tax. Thank you for joining us.
@submission2tIf you did not pay Jizya for your own security, because humanity was in a state of always war. If you did not have a treaty of peace with somebody, the default was that you were in a state of war. And at that time, given the realities of that time, they forced people to ensure that they would pay.
@submission2tThe overwhelming majority of Christians, or the Levant, was overwhelmingly Christian for like 500 years. Nobody went around and basically started killing people. And then I gave you the example of the covenant of Prophet Muhammad with the Christian monasteries. And that's documented, and I posted up the original document as well, that they were to be protected.
@submission2tSo you can't completely...
@submission2tThank you very much.
@submission2tThank you very much.
@submission2tThank you very much.
@submission2tThank you for joining us.
@submission2tSlaves were not to be, they ate at the same table. They were basically, you were not supposed to hit your slave. You're not allowed to hit the slave. There were so many, and slavery had mobility, meaning they were able to rise up. The Mamluks are a great example where the Mamluks became, who were initially slaves, they end up becoming, became the rulers of Egypt.
@submission2tSo I can go on and on how slavery was very different. I wouldn't even say slavery. They were essentially prisoners of war where the system was designed for them to free themselves or the governance was there to actually for them to free themselves. I'll land there, but I can say a lot more on this.
@joann_marieBeautiful. Thank you so much, Dr. Strange.
@submission2tJump in.
@truthtellerftmI've been waiting a while.
@joann_marieYes, go for it.
@truthtellerftmThanks. So look, yeah, the Jizya was a 2% tax, but again to... Thank you very much.
@truthtellerftmAnd when he was calling on the Crusades, you were expected to sell off your assets, which is what happened in 1095, in exchange for salvation. That's what Pope Urban II offered when he built up his Crusades army to go and invade, of course, we'll get up to Jerusalem eventually, right? So by 1099. So there's a difference between Catholicism, which I don't hear other people condemn, versus, say, Islam, when it comes to jizya.
@truthtellerftmAnd yeah, zakat is obviously a charity, which every Muslim is supposed to give. So just to be, for clarity there. I think I was going to point out that, look, just in terms of all these divisions, I mean, this is how the Jews are able to rule as a minority over a majority because they need, you know, the goy to fight amongst themselves about whether it's politics, you know, blue versus red, you know, conservative versus liberal, or, you know, gay versus straight.
@truthtellerftmYou know, they literally created a gay, trans subpopulations, you know, to fight with heterosexuals, pretend like they're oppressed. And, of course, man versus female, they brought in feminism. Without all these sources of division, they don't win. And of course, they love their multiculturalism, their ultimate plan, create a mongrel race whereby white Europeans have lost their sense of identity.
@truthtellerftmBut when I say white European, that in and of itself is not a monolith. Italians, French, British are not the same people, are not the same as Eastern Europeans. They all have their own identity as well. There's not much a Russian Orthodox Christian has in common with an Anglo. In fact, they all have almost nothing in common.
@truthtellerftmThey don't even look the same. So it's just funny to me when people want to make that argument, I'm white European. What does that even mean? New York's got over 30 countries in it, and each one has its own distinct culture, language, and even religion at times. They don't have a whole lot in common. They just happen to be in the same continent.
@truthtellerftmIt's like, does Mexico have a lot in common with the US and Canada? No, it's distinct, but they're in the same continent, right? So, yeah, just clarity there matters. And the same thing we said, you know, the continents. The whole United thing, again, focused on the Jewish supremacy, I believe. That is the source of all the main problems.
@truthtellerftmAnd just as you want to blame some of the dissidents or, say, the Muslims that Trump has teamed up with himself, like Al-Julani, he literally validates Al-Qaeda, you know, also blame, you know, the white Christian evangelicals that support whatever Trump does, never question him, and love what he's doing, won't blame him for anything.
@truthtellerftmEven for those who think, well, at least look what he's done with the border. No one else has come in. So tell me, are you better off today as a result of Trump's policies? Has your rent come down? Has energy prices come down? Have food prices come down? Are there no more wars? How's it doing for you? Is he bringing unity to the country?
@truthtellerftmAnd is it in a better place or closer to the brink of bankruptcy? Those are the bigger questions that should be asked. Hold governments accountable. And it starts with doing things like, of course, boycotting all their shitty businesses. Thank you for your time.
@joann_marieBeautiful, I absolutely love that. Thank you so much, Truth. All right. Oh, well, well, well, well, dropped. All right. And guys, please repost the space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian, Dr. Strange, Truth, Dan, everybody on the panel. So thank you so much. All right. Akunjee, long time.
@submission2tOkay, we'll go to Akunjee and then afterwards I'll play the clip.
@joann_marieOkay.
@mohammedakunjeeNo, thank you. I didn't realize my hand was still up. The point I wanted to make... is almost paleological because it was so long ago that it's been buried by layers of conversation. But I was just going to point out a little thing, which was we have spent most of the space discussing things that Muslims have done in antiquity, things that Christians have done in antiquity, and correcting the errors of others, rather than working to see how we can actually achieve unity.
@mohammedakunjeeWhich is to look at our common enemies in the different parts of the world, whether they're Christians or Muslims, and see how we can actually help each other there. Unfortunately, we often get sidelined, possibly by purpose, in these discourses about historical things that happened even a millennia ago. Right now is a problem now, and it's been a problem for a long time.
@mohammedakunjeeRooting it out is going to take a lot of effort, blowing up a tree trunk's roots. Thank you, Akunjee.
@submission2tWell said, and I agree. And I try that going the same point that if we want to rehash history, there is a lot to go through, and we'll never get past any of it. Because one, the veracity, authenticity will be questioned, and we'll just go in circles for 1,400. Salahuddin
@submission2tHi, I'll just play this short clip.
Ian MalcolmThere have been many famous leaders, kings, and military heroes.
@submission2tBut it's the ultimate flex to have even your enemies sing your praises. And yet this is true of Saladin, the leader of the Muslim armies during the Third Crusade. And what's surprising is not that Muslim sources say good things about Saladin, but that Latin Christian sources of the period did. And they did it a lot. So Saladin has a reputation for being someone who's very generous and someone who keeps his promises.
@submission2tA man who was willing to release high-value prisoners like Guy de Lusignan, the king of the crusader state of Jerusalem, sometimes without even demanding any ransom, just on the strength of a promise. He's renowned for generosity, and people are telling stories about him centuries later in the West. So French poets are writing medieval chivalric romances in which they want to invoke Saladin as a character and invent stories of him jousting with Richard I and having noble contests of arms.
@submission2tHe's this character who has all of the virtues that a medieval knight was supposed to have, except Christianity. The most surprising example of this comes from none other than Voltaire, who is the intellectual most associated with the French Enlightenment. So Voltaire is writing centuries later, and he's repeating things that are in the record about Saladin's life, which are that when he died, despite conquering a large amount of territory, he didn't keep much money.
@submission2tThere wasn't much wealth that he'd amassed during his career. And when he died, he gave directions that what remained of it be distributed evenly amongst Muslim, Christian, and Jewish. And there were plenty of all three. And Voltaire quotes the following. He says that Saladin's directions stated, All men are brothers. To help them, one must not seek to know what they believe, but rather what they suffer.
@submission2tFew of our Christian princes have had that magnanimity. That's what Voltaire comments. Some things remain admirable even centuries later.
@submission2tDr. Strange, you were telling me they actually paid the ransoms of a lot of slaves so they could set free.
@truthtellerftmThe guy almost broke, actually. The guy told me he had no idea about that. He just thinks that all Muslims are evil and bad. He showed mercy to the slaves, actually liberated them. He didn't have to do that. Christian Crusaders Wiped out unarmed civilians in Jerusalem
@mighty6thorNow that I'm on the Jews, I'm going to lift some weights and listen.
Ian MalcolmThat's what I was telling you. You're the lifeguard here. Jump in whenever.
@mighty6thorOkay, thanks. So, look, that was a great clip.
Ian MalcolmAnd I'm just going to mock Dustin Nemos again for requesting a second time, even though last time it took him 12 seconds to interrupt like a little girl.
@mighty6thorWell, for those of you that don't know Dustin Nemos, he is the bona fide supreme narcissist on YouTube, on X. That is who he is incarnate. I heard he was only dancing over there. That's true. That's true. No, no, we're not going to go down that whole rabbit hole. But so, by the way, yeah, I think, guys, look, there are great Muslims out there.
@mighty6thorI like to say Muslims, no offense. Yeah, yeah, go ahead. My name was said, so. There are great Muslims, there are great Christians out there. We've got the Franciscan order, so many orders of... Thank you for joining us.
@mighty6thorShabos Goyer, Jewish Slaves We've got the GCC, the Gulf Coast What does that stand for? Right? GCC Nations There are six of them OCD, Dumbfuck Okay, so my dumbfuckiness created an acronym to remember them It's SubCOC, as in La COC Sportif, okay? So S-U-B, that's Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates B is Bahrain, Q is Qatar, O is Oman, and K is Kuwait.
@mighty6thorAlways correct me if I'm wrong, kids. So these six GCC nations, and I'm sure there are others, have a brand of Islam called Wahhabism. They are Wahhabists. They are Zionists. I hear Dr. Hotha... and Ahmed and all these other guys who just serve Israel. So they're a big problem too in the same way these, now luckily they're a minority, but they're in league with Israel, these Zionists.
@mighty6thorI remember seeing when Iran was doing these awesome barrages and we were all dancing and rocking out to Boom Boom Tel Aviv, the greatest AI song of our lives thus far anyway. Too bad Lucas Gage turned the other cheek or was bought off or both.
Ian MalcolmExcept Joey Good, Thor. I'm going to put him above Lucas Gageman.
@mighty6thorOkay, well, I've got to hear that, and I'm going to play this.
Ian MalcolmWait, have you not heard a Joey Good song?
@mighty6thorNo.
Ian MalcolmOh, my. All right, I'm sorry, Joanne. You've got to get one fired up after Thor finishes. We'll have to add some levity here.
@mighty6thorOkay, I'm looking forward to hearing it. Yeah, the GCC nation, six of them. And I remember saying, what the fuck is going on when little King Abdullah of Jordan, I'm just picking on him, why are the leaders of these other nations in the Middle East shooting down the rockets and missiles that Iran was sending towards Israel?
@mighty6thorLet them through. But I guess so many of them are bought and paid. The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar for President, Akunjee
@mighty6thorSo Rabbi Yom Tov, T-O-V, Glazer, when he's in Israel, that's his name, when he's in America as a surfer, beach bum, and musician, he grew up in California, he's one day younger than my brother, Martin Luther King was assassinated early morning April 4, shot rings out. In the Memphis sky That's a U2 song, Pride In the Name of Love So April 4th, 1968, MLK was killed April 7th, this dude was born He's a baby boomer, a degenerate, a California beach bum Musician and a surfer And now, listen to what he says Now that he's a rabbi, living in Jerusalem Specializing in topics related to Jewish spirituality, Kabbalah, and psychotherapy That's the last you'll hear from me I just want you, I know you're all...
@mighty6thorThanks Ian for letting me chime in. Here we go. Listen to what he says about the future of Western civilization. And I'm sure there's a jab at Islam in here too. Here we go. Because the most powerful nations in the world have to go down to their knees.
@mighty6thorThat's what happened to Egypt. That's what's going to happen to America. That's what's going to happen to Germany. That's what's going to happen to France. That's what's going to happen to London. England's going to happen to Poland. That's what's going to happen to Russia. That's what's going to happen to China. That's what's going to happen to North Korea.
@mighty6thorThey're all going to go down to their knees and all see Hashem.
@mighty6thorAs long as they keep helping us, they'll get a bracha. And they're not going to go down their knees. They're gonna get a little more time. You guys want more time? I don't want more time.
@mighty6thorWhen I hear they're friends with us, they're just perpetuating more of this status quo. They're all gonna go down. They're all gonna go down on their knees, especially the Western ones. The Zohar says that they're gonna go down hard. for how they treated us over the last 2,000 years. For the destruction of the Second Temple and how they treated us, Hashem's going to take them down hard.
@mighty6thorThere you go. That's the agenda, to destroy all of us. And I'm going to quote Nick Fuentes. That's probably some blasphemy. I can't believe I'm doing this, but hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day. And Nick said, in order for an Israeli Jewish kingdom to rise in the Middle East... The American Empire must be destroyed, and that's what's happening.
@mighty6thorGreat space, thanks for letting me chat. I will listen while I bump some iron.
Ian MalcolmBump some iron?
@mighty6thorStay here a bit, stay here a bit.
@sharafifursanI'm sorry for interrupting, stay here a bit.
Ian MalcolmWait, what? So, Mighty Thor, go pump the iron. Go and get the testosterone flowing with the TRT that you are looking into. I'm going to be curious for your thoughts on that. Come back and share your experience a couple months into that. I'm going to want to hear how that is going. I think that that's a dangerous thing to do only from the sense that for people that don't have explicit oversight from some really high-paid physicians, doctors, specialists, et cetera, messing around with some of the most...
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Ian MalcolmI am going to go out on a limb and say that Lucas Gage, who, oh, by the way, is a super cuck, and it's so wild to witness with. I don't know what they have on him or pay him or whatever it is, but it's more embarrassing than RFK, if that's even possible. But so Lucas Gage has been far superseded when it comes to musical additions to our cause.
Ian MalcolmFor anybody who has not encountered the real Mr. Good, a.k.a. Joey Good, Just a musical genius. And not only that, a creative genius. The guy has green screens and puppets that he creates and utilizes them to make music videos about this subject, which also, oh, by the way, includes not only music that he puts together, and AI is used for some of this, obviously, but he also sings a lot of the songs.
Ian MalcolmHe writes the songs. They're not written with AI. I don't doubt that he might have that sometimes Let's say assist in the creative process. But he's been making music for a long time. He is a musician and an artist at heart. Unbelievably talented guy. And if anybody has not seen the music videos he produces with these puppets, they are incredible, as is the music.
Ian MalcolmSo, JoAnn, for everybody's, let's say, laughs and entertainment, why don't we bring on Mr. Joey Goodsong. Let's put that up into the purple pill so we can make sure to, or I'm sorry, the nest. Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmHis average view count on a post was something like 100 views or 200 views or 300 views. He's had multiple videos at this point that have had multi-millions of views and that have often gotten shut down by Twitter and let's say neutered from reach. So I just say that to encourage everybody. Do the things that you can, whether it's music, it's art, it's just your ideas via text, whatever it is that you can do to make a difference.
Ian MalcolmDo that thing and also support the people that are doing it Especially with Joey Good and I mention this because he's over in the UK and he has shared very directly in the space that we had with him that he knows or is at least concerned that there's a very high probability that they won't just neuter his reach on this digital platform.
Ian MalcolmThey might knock on his door because of the laws that they now have in the UK and he is still face forward and he is discussing all of these issues like an absolute patriot. So I really do. I think he's a creative genius. He's obviously an incredibly patriotic man. He's seemingly a very, very loving father. So lots of love to Mr. Joey Goode wherever he is.
Ian MalcolmAnd Mighty Thor, brace yourself because this is going to be mighty entertaining.
Speaker 1But if you don't figure it out, you will never grow So let me put it in a nutshell so that you can see The Tiny Hats destruction of humanity They start the wars, Tiny Hats They killed our Lord, Tiny Hats They gave us usury, Tiny Hats And pornography They cause inflation, Tiny Hats And immigration, Tiny Hats
Speaker 1Social depravity, communism, genocide, slavery, and genocide They caused the famines across the world They turned little boys into little girls Tortured children just for fun, vaccinated everyone
Ian MalcolmBut JoAnn, let's continue kind of going through some of the hands here. I want to welcome Mr. Converse up onto the panel. And I don't know if Mr. Truthteller had something that he wanted to share, but if so, let's go to him first.
@truthtellerftmNo, I agree. It's a great song. I love the lyrics. Yeah, do you want to hash that slavery debate that you wanted to do?
@joann_marieI can stop smiling whenever I'm hearing it. And Tony, we said we weren't going to interrupt, so.
Ian MalcolmWait, no. All right, so Tony, so okay, we had tried to keep things cordial. Tony, as we look at Truth Teller, Tony just comes in and is like, I want to fight. And so, Tony, I got to be honest, I don't think this is going to go well for you. And I am instead going to stand aside. You get five minutes to basically have Truth Teller, I likely imagine, eviscerate your worldview, but only because you've been abrasive towards him.
Ian MalcolmAnd so now... Because I do appreciate his intellect. I'm very curious to see how this goes. I want to warn everybody, I don't think this is about to go well for Tony, but he's asked for it, so go for it.
@submission2tIan, Ian, before we do that, I want to make a quick 10-second remark. I want to make sure that everybody understands this.
@tonywakuuAnd I don't want this to be a part of my time as well.
@submission2tHold on, Tony. I want to make sure everybody understands this, that I am not against all Jews, right? When people say all Jews or the Jews, And I believe Ian is in the same boat. He specifically mentions Jewish supremacy. And I'm on the same boat. So there are plenty of good Jews that I like, that I follow, that I enjoy their comments.
@submission2tAnd anybody who fights for justice, anybody who fights for the truth is on my side. So you have people like various individuals who are actually Jewish by ethnicity. They're fighting for the truth. They're fighting for justice. And there are my friend, there are my ally, and I believe the same is true for, we've had this discussion with Ian in the past, and he's on the same board.
@submission2tDr.
Ian MalcolmStrange, this is where I take issue with that, because if only the Jews made that distinction with the Germans, who they still collectively blame, shame, and demand reparations from, they don't seem to care.
@joann_marieThey...
@truthtellerftmI don't want to sink to their level. Truth, I don't want to sink to their level. It's funny because guys like, for instance, Professor Norman Finkelstein, for instance, he'll be so quick to, okay, want to be anti-Zionist, for instance, and condemn what's happening in Gaza. But every single time he speaks, he has to bring up the Holocaust, which did not happen, what happened to his parents and all the rest, and even justify his parents' hatred for all Germans.
@truthtellerftmAnd he says, well, I understand it because of the trauma that they went through. Well, you know what? Maybe some of us go and have trauma from what the Jews have put us through, so we're going to collectively blame them as well, rather than you make excuses because some of them say some of the things you want to say and you seek their validation.
@truthtellerftmI just don't. I don't feel the need to defend them at all. So now I want to go back to what Tony is arguing about in terms of slavery. Slavery has been around for over 10,000 years, long before there were Christians, Muslims, and even Jews. It's been a part of almost every culture, any country, any empire that's done it.
@truthtellerftmWho started slavery? Again, it's hard to say. It's during Neolithic times, so it doesn't come back to one person. It comes back to a culture that did it. It carried on generation after generation, century after century. You can blame every country, nation, color for participating in it. So to try to use it as an argument to say, but one side did it more than the other, you don't know that because we'll never know exact numbers for slavery anyway.
@truthtellerftmAnd if you want to blame Arabs collectively, Arabs aren't just Muslim, they aren't just Christian, some of them are Jewish as well. So some of them are just straight up atheists. The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee
@truthtellerftmAnd those are all North African, and today they're a majority Muslim. You know what's funny to me? When it comes to African civilization, the blacks will always say, but look at Egypt, even though Egyptians can't explain how the pyramids were built themselves because they didn't build it. No one can really explain how they were built because based on the technology of the time, no one could physically build it.
@truthtellerftmIt was mainly slaves. I can explain them pretty easily. I've explained them in this very space before. You know what's interesting to me, Tony, is you don't want to understand... The North Africans had Jews there True, I'm not arguing slavery I'm just arguing that the Arabs did it in a larger proportion than Jews did And that's just a simple fact After the Jews were kicked out of Spain and Portugal They went to North Africa
@truthtellerftmAnd they were doing slavery from there, just like they went to the Netherlands. They were doing slavery from there. They also went to the Ottoman Empire, what became the Ottoman Empire of Turkey, and did slavery from there.
@tonywakuuHow could the Jews go to North Africa during the Muslim conquest in the 12th century?
@truthtellerftmYou're talking about during the rise of the Ottoman Empire, so you're saying that the Jews are part of the Ottoman Empire? Seriously, Tony? Tony, this is why you're just dumb. You proved the stereotypes that blacks are low IQ. Because you didn't even understand the argument. I just tried to explain to you that you just got kicked out of Spain.
@truthtellerftmYou got kicked out of Portugal in 1492 and 1497. And yes, a lot of them did go to North Africa. That's a fact. They also went to the Netherlands. I did a whole space on this and I did a deep dive. They also went to the Netherlands. Those were in the 15th century. Can you pay attention and stop interrupting?
@truthtellerftmAnd the cotton plantations, that's why Brazil is there. Millions and millions of your ancestors were brought in by Jewish-owned ships by the likes of Aaron Lopez, Aaron Lopez-owned slave ships, the Monsanto family-owned slave ships, the DeWolf family-owned slave ships, the Lazar family-owned slave ships, I can go on and on and name them for you if you like.
@truthtellerftmThe Walker family-owned slave ships, the Walker family-owned slave ships, truth teller, you're going to try to educate me about something that you're not being educated about. 2-3% of whites that owned slaves but it was majority 80% blacks and that's why all the auctions for slaves, buying and selling, were never held on Jewish holidays.
@truthtellerftmAll of the advertisements, in fact, say that. What time are you talking about? Are you still talking about in the 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th century? Into the 19th century? Keep up, Tony! Slavery was banned in 1863. You're saying that the majority of blacks owned and slaved? That's right. New niggers were getting trafficked by Jews.
@truthtellerftmThat's not true at all. The majority in the 19th century and 18th century were Europeans. That's why you have, for instance, a chief IDF rabbi saying all blacks are monkeys. And that you have in Israel that say that over 50% of blacks are a cancer. You really are a cancer. You guys are the most violent people in the world.
Ian MalcolmYou can look it up yourself. Here's what we're going to do.
@truthtellerftmIf you want to fix the American problem, we've got to deal with all the blacks. We've got to round them up. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Ian MalcolmHang on. We'll be very clear. We're not rounding up anybody. But Tony, can you bullet out three errors on Truth's part?
@tonywakuuGoogle it, man. That's a good way to win a debate.
Ian MalcolmNo, I'm asking you specifically, can you list three errors?
@truthtellerftmWell, it speaks to crime rate in America.
Ian Malcolm54% of violent crimes are committed by tourists. Hang on, truth, truth, truth. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Tony, list three errors that you heard from Truth.
@tonywakuuYour dates are wrong, first of all, Truth Teller, so.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, that's very general. Give a specific, yeah. So first error, I'll start with the most recent one. He's going to try to disseminate it. Hang on, hang on, Truth. You got to let him respond. But Tony, you can't make a generality. Specifically, cite three errors.
@tonywakuuI'm not making any...
Ian MalcolmWait, so you're conceding that there was not a single error in his talk track there?
@tonywakuuSo you said through the 17th and 19th century that the majority of slave owners were blacks. No, that's not true. I didn't say they were blacks. Jews!
Speaker 9You said Jews, Tony! Keep up! This is the problem.
Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on, hang on. Tony, you think the truth was suggesting that the transatlantic slave trade was done by blacks? No, no, no. You said the blacks and the Jews mainly owned the slaves. No, I don't think that's what TruthTeller just said. Tony, I'll try to help you out. I don't think that was his position at all.
Ian MalcolmThat is not my position. I said over 80% of the slave traders were QA. It doesn't have to be your position. That's just what you said, so that's what I heard. No, no. Tony, I'm going to try and help you. I think you misheard what he said, and it doesn't do your service well here trying to argue with him. I think he was stating that the slave trade, transatlantic, was primarily driven disproportionately by Jews, and that there were black
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Ian Malcolmwould have been Africans. I think that is his position.
@truthtellerftmThat's correct. And I'd also like to add... Yeah, that's not true. Most of them were European. It's the exact fact. We know Tony's low IQ. No, it's not true. It's not true at all. No, it's not true at all. You can just look it up yourself. He did look it up himself. That's how he knows I'm a Jew.
@tonywakuuIt's documented. It's documented. No, that's not true, JoAnn. What are you talking about? Just because there's two or three people who agree with you doesn't make it true. It's all documented history. It's documented that Jews did not
@tonywakuuBut the majority of slave traders in Africa were Arab.
@truthtellerftmAbout 10 million of them. No, that's the truth, Tyler. Okay, I'll go on to my second point.
@tonywakuuThe second point that you were lying about was something about Saladin. Here's the second point.
@truthtellerftmBecause, well, now you're just galloping, but okay.
@tonywakuuYou can't disprove what I told you. You can only use false stats and things like that that aren't even true.
Ian MalcolmIf you're going to... Truth, Tyler. You're going to say that the majority is not... In the 19th century, I asked you for an air in truth tellers rhetoric. The thing that you then tried to present was erroneous. And so I'm going to ask again, is there a air that you can specifically cite? What would be the topic that you would suggest he's incorrect on?
@tonywakuuOkay, first of all, first of all. To say that blacks owned slaves in the 19th century, that's not true, first of all. In the 17th century, sure, maybe they were trading old slaves that they had from past centuries. Yes, that's also true. That is very true. But to say that they were in a large proportion is not true at all.
@tonywakuuI didn't say large proportion. I didn't even give a percentage. You said you compared them with Jews. You compared them with Jews. You compared them with Jews. You compared them with Jews.
@tonywakuuYou can't even go back and support what you just said. You can't even go back and support what you just said. You have to change your stance every time. Tony, I'm going to make this super clear. He has not changed it.
@joann_marieYou have not understood what he's saying. It's different. Tony, you belong in a zoo.
@tonywakuuI'm not addressing... You guys can say anything that you want.
Speaker 10No, you're like... You repeat what he says and you repeat everything wrong. Like, he didn't even say that.
@truthtellerftmLike, that is insane to me. He said he compared Africans with Jews as far as slave trade goes. That's not true at all. What grade do you read at? Did you even get by in 10th grade? Can you even read? I have a bachelor's degree.
@tonywakuuWhat grade did you get by? How old are you, Tim Keller? What are you talking about?
Ian MalcolmYou can't even get your facts straight? All right, this sounds like playground rhetoric. What grade did you get? How big is your dad, right? Now, Tony, so I think you're, in fact, the error that you suggested Truth was making, I think, was a misrepresentation of the point that he made. I don't know how to respond to that other than to state that you're either not listening or you're intentionally misrepresenting him.
Ian MalcolmEither of those is not exactly a great look. So your suggestion was that blacks were not involved, I suppose, Thank you. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmSome conspiracy site. According directly to Grok, the percentages of Jews in America that owned slaves was between 25 and 40x that of the white Europeans. Now, I say x because Grok would tell you that it was something like 25 to 40% of the Jewish individuals that owned slaves, and it will tell you that it was under 2%, perhaps even as little as 1% of white Europeans that owned slaves.
Ian MalcolmThat would mean that the Jews owned them at rates of 25 to 40x that of the white Europeans. Now, that would make it unreasonable to suggest that Jews didn't have a disproportionate hand in not only the transaction but also the ownership of those slaves. Now, obviously, there were very few Jews. It's worth noting that. I'm not negating the fact that white Europeans did own them.
Ian MalcolmBut proportionally speaking, the drastic overrepresentation obviously points in one direction, so much so that it just so happens. Right, you're talking on a per capita basis, not as a whole.
Ian MalcolmWhy would I, okay, so hang on, Tony, this is kind of funny because we're, okay, so per capita, we can, all right, we'll talk per capita here for a second, Tony. Would you agree that per capita that blacks in the United States are overrepresented relative to whites in all but roughly 9% of the categories of crime according to the FBI?
@tonywakuuYes, that's very clear and obvious. Come on, come on, come on, let's move past this, come on, let's go.
Ian MalcolmHe understands per capita, this is amazing.
Ian MalcolmOkay, okay, so hang on, because Tony, what you've just suggested is that you understand per capita, you understand that blacks per capita commit far more crime. Okay, that same ideology can be transferred over to the idea of slave ownership. So per capita, if Jews own a much higher demographic of the slaves, then it's reasonable to suggest, like Truth Teller just was, that Jews had the predominant hand in it.
Ian MalcolmThat's especially true when you look at the ownership of the slave ships and, again, the insurance of those ships.
Ian MalcolmSo who was it that was basically colonizing Africa? Well, in some ways, I guess you could say it was the Jews by taking a lot of their people so that they could go and enslave them elsewhere. It was also the other Africans that were going out and participating in that so they could kill other Africans, which is great.
@tonywakuuRight, but I'm not representing on a per capita basis. I'm representing on a net whole basis, Ian. That was my whole argument.
Ian MalcolmBut that's such a ridiculous... Tony, that... Wait, do you understand how... This is how dumb you are. This is why... This is why you're black, stupid, and retarded. You don't belong on the stage. To not intellectually... Hang on. To not intellectually, let's say, wrap per capita into an argument is very unreasonable. Right?
Ian MalcolmIt would be like going around and saying, well, obviously, you know, the pit bulls... Let's say aren't all that dangerous because if we look globally at every animal that has ever attacked anybody and we put all that together, actually it's the mosquitoes that killed the most people. No, the pit bull is obviously the most dangerous of dogs.
Ian MalcolmWe need to look within the confines of the argument that we're having and take things like per capita to understand proportionalities and how they play into these subjects.
@tonywakuuSo you're arguing that a mammal is more dangerous than an insect because the mammal kills more per capita?
Ian MalcolmReally, Tony? Wait, hang on. Tony, Tony, Tony. Is that actually how you interpret what I just said? Even though the mosquito killed more per capita? Even though the mosquito killed more per capita, right?
@tonywakuuWait, wait, wait.
Ian MalcolmYou're serious, Tony?
@tonywakuuYou argued that the pit bull... I'll settle this, I'll settle this I spent 25 years dealing with morons and Tony, you're a moron
@mohammedakunjeeLet's move on.
@tonywakuuYeah, I'm a moron, but they can't get their facts straight or figure out anything that they're saying. It's crazy he doesn't know that he doesn't know.
@truthtellerftmYou're smart when you're in the hood among a bunch of thugs.
@tonywakuuYeah, and you're smart in a room of 300 people who don't know anything.
Ian MalcolmWait, wait, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. I'm going to ask you again because I can't believe that you misinterpreted what I said as wildly as you did. So I'm going to just confirm. Please tell me either that you were trolling or try to explain what it is that you think that I was trying to suggest.
@tonywakuuWhy don't you explain it again so that I can know it concisely? Wow. Okay. Be sure to be clear this time.
@truthtellerftmHe's a dumb nigger. There's just no way around it. Hang on, hang on, hang on.
@tonywakuuDisavow, disavow.
@truthtellerftmSays the guy who came to get his facts straight.
@tonywakuuGood one.
Ian MalcolmI don't know why the mute button just no longer works. This is wild. Tony, you said he can't get his facts straight. Can you please give us two or three bullets on where truth got the facts incorrect? Be very specific if you can.
@tonywakuuAnd do you understand the difference between a per capita and an app basis? Or is that just too high of an IQ a point for you? Yes.
Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Tony, Tony, please. OK, two things. Number one, you are deflecting from my question because you probably don't have. No, no, that's the basis of the question. I want to try to describe. Oh, my God. Tony, if you think that you're going to debate me on things like per capita and crime statistics and all these other things, it's going to go very poorly for you.
Ian MalcolmI'm going to try and redirect you back to the question that I just asked, which you're deflecting from because you don't have a good answer for it. Where was Truth Teller's heirs? Where was he factually incorrect? Give us two or three examples.
@tonywakuuI already do this from the 17th to 19th century. You said that the Africans and the Jews traded slaves on the same per capita basis. That's not true. I never said that. That's intellectually false.
Ian MalcolmOn the same per capita basis? Wait a second, it's a recorded line. Did Truth Teller even use the phrase per capita? I did not. He doesn't have to use it. That was his point. He said that they traded at this... Okay, so hang on, hang on. Hang on. Tony, I'm asking you to be very specific. Truth Tower did not use the very phrase and thus did not wrap his argument in the very suggestion that you just made.
Ian MalcolmOkay, you're either incorrect and or you're lying and disingenuous.
@tonywakuuNo, no, no, you're being disingenuous, Ian, because he said that they traded on the same basis and rate as each other. He said that Africans and Jews owned the same amount of slaves at the time. And that's on, maybe it could be on a per capita basis, but it's not on the data. Apparently, you guys don't have the IQ to understand that.
@tonywakuuIt's hilarious.
@truthtellerftmYou guys are hysterical. 80% of the slave traffickers were Jewish. I said that. I even said the Jews owned the majority of the slave ships. I don't know why you just can't get into your thick head. I realize you're not a low IQ nigger. I get it. This is so dumb.
@joann_marieAll right, Tony, thank you so much for participating.
Ian MalcolmIt is really bad. Tony, I got to be honest. It's really, really in poor form what is happening here. And I say that because I'm trying to give you the advantage to be able to specifically cite problems with truth tellers rhetoric. And then you're wildly misrepresenting him to suggest that his comment was that blacks owned.
Ian MalcolmQuote unquote, per capita, the same amount of slaves as the Jews is just so wildly outlandish.
@tonywakuuI think your motive in journalism is being disingenuous because that's not what I said at all. I didn't quote him. That's what you just said to me.
@truthtellerftmI think you're misrepresenting your room. You didn't understand what I said. It's fine. You're just retarded.
@tonywakuuWait, wait, wait, hang on, hang on. Tony, what does that even mean?
@tonywakuuYou guys are being disingenuous to your audience. I represented this fact exactly and you guys are telling me that I'm incorrect and it just doesn't make any sense. You guys got to figure it out.
Ian MalcolmTony, Tony, Tony, do you recognize how laughably incorrect you were with what you tried to represent as the argument? You just said I tried to quote Truth Teller and I didn't quote him at all. Wait, I asked you to be very specific with your criticism of Truth Teller and then you utilized... How many times did you have to ask me that?
Ian MalcolmThere's no way this person would know.
@tonywakuuHow many times did you have to ask that? How many times did I say the same thing? I really don't. JoAnn, you know how many things in theories that I've came up with? What are you talking about? Decentralized governance? Whose point did you get that from? Hey, True Teller, who did you get the decentralized governance from?
@truthtellerftmYeah, good one, buddy. Who did you get that point from? Who did you get that point from again? They want to make me into a rapper now. True Teller, what's he trying to make me into a rapper?
Ian MalcolmI don't understand how people are just speaking directly.
@submission2tThat's weird. The mute button's not working. Why can't we have a civil discourse without getting into ad hominems, personal attacks, bigotry, racism? Let's focus on...
Ian MalcolmIt's usually indicative of individuals that don't have much to suggest when it comes to reasonable critiques. And then when I asked specifically for a reasonable critique, Tony misrepresented truth teller. Now I say that constantly, Tony, because this is a recorded line. If I'm wrong, play it back and make a clip and demonstrate that I'm wrong.
Ian MalcolmI think I could do the exact inverse and probably make you look rather foolish. And you know why I say that? Because I've been able to do it with just about all of my detractors. Like I said at the offset of this, I don't think this went well for you, right? You're welcome to have your say here. We'll give you 60 seconds.
Ian MalcolmPlease, truth, allow this to go uninterrupted. Go for it, Tony, and then we're going to move to the next speaker. This is a waste of time.
@tonywakuuHey, I await the clip, and it's more indicative of an echo chamber because you're not representing any effect that you stated. Okay. And I wanted to address the actual point, and this is the reason why they're not compatible, because you guys expect us to fix your Jewish problem. It's not us to fix it, it's us to be against both of you guys.
@tonywakuuNone of you guys are genuine, none of you guys know what you're talking about. We fund both of you guys, we say go at it, go have a war, go at it. And this is what it turns into, a bunch of people in an echo chamber trying to figure out what they're trying to talk about. And none of it makes any sense because they go against people who are actually being genuine in their arguments.
Ian MalcolmWho is the we that you're referring to there?
@tonywakuuLook at the space. I mean, it's truth-teller dominated, and then it's you and JoAnn who are backing him up with anything that he says, and none of it's any... Is any of it either true?
Ian MalcolmIs any of it true? Tony, you were referring to your quote-unquote side as a we. Who is that we?
@tonywakuuI never said we. Now you're misquoting me.
Speaker 11No, you did!
@tonywakuuYou clearly did!
@briciusxYou absolutely said we, my friend.
@tonywakuuThen tell me the exact sentence so that you can be genuine about it. If you want, don't just take full time.
Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait, Tony, Tony, the use of the verbiage, right? The word we in your statement would be referred to as what from a English or grammar standpoint?
@mohammedakunjeeIan, Ian, when I was nine, I had a budget.
Ian MalcolmYou're asking me what's the majority of the word we mean?
@mohammedakunjeeThe problem is you're trying to teach this budgie French.
Ian MalcolmYes. Okay. And again, we can go back. We within a statement is what? And again, you can go back and you listen to it.
@tonywakuuAnd I never said anything about the word we because it's me versus you guys or whatever.
Ian MalcolmThis is insane.
@tonywakuuI just gave you the definition of we. Did you not hear it? He's just Ben Shapiro.
@mohammedakunjeeHe's just Ben Shapiro. It's Ben Shapiro who's crawled into somebody else's skin.
@tonywakuuYou guys can ad hominem all you want, but that's not a good debate.
Ian MalcolmWait, wait, Tony, Tony, Tony. What is an ad hominem? Can you define that?
@tonywakuuAn ad hominem is a fallacy, a logic. What do you think ad hominem would translate to roughly?
@tonywakuuI don't know the exact Latin, but I know that it's to call someone a name that doesn't represent their side of an argument.
@truthtellerftmWhat do you mean by name?
@tonywakuuThat's closer. You're getting closer, Tony. Hey, hey, why don't you guys just look it up?
Ian MalcolmTony, Tony, Tony, Tony, Tony. An ad hominem, just colloquially speaking. is the attack on a person, hence the use of ad hominem. It is where instead of having a discussion about issues, you go at a person with some kind of slur or slight to suggest that it is a logical thing. Tony, what is a logical fallacy? Can you tell us what that is?
@tonywakuuWell, first you have to understand, you don't even know what ad hominem is. So how are you going to have me to find it? He just told you what it is, Tony.
Ian MalcolmTony, Tony, Tony. You don't know what ad hominem is. Can you tell us what a logical fallacy is? No, you don't know what ad hominem is because I just looked it up and it's a logical fallacy. So you're fucking dumbass.
Speaker 8This is just insane. Tony, let me type this in right now. So ad hominem. Let's go in here.
Ian MalcolmOkay, so an ad hominem, attacking a person's character or motivations rather than a position or an argument, appealing to the emotions rather to the logic or reason of their argument, appealing to personal considerations rather than fact or reason. Is it a logical fallacy or not, Ian? Is it a logical fallacy? I almost gave you verbatim off the back of my mind or the cuff of my sleeve the definition which you're claiming is the logical fallacy.
@tonywakuuAnd guess what the Latin translates to?
Ian MalcolmTony, Tony, what is logical fallacy? Can you tell us what that means?
@tonywakuuYou know what the Latin means? It means to the person. That's exactly what I told you. So I don't know what you're talking about.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no. You said it was a logical fallacy. I said it was going to the person rather than their logic.
@tonywakuuNo, I said it's to call someone a name misrepresenting their position. That's exactly what I said. So again, you're being disingenuous.
Ian MalcolmJoAnn, wait, wait, wait, hang on. Akunjee, what is happening here? I am just so confused.
@mohammedakunjeeWell, I can tell you. First of all, Tony, do you subscribe to the Small Hats? Are you from that school of Small Hats?
@tonywakuuDo I subscribe to a small house? No, my house is like 10,000.
@mohammedakunjeeAre you from a school of small hats? Did you go to a school where the majority of the people wore very small hats?
@truthtellerftmYou can't fit a hat on all those dreadlocks.
@tonywakuuNo, I went to a predominantly white school. Are you fucking stupid, man?
@mohammedakunjeeOkay, I just had to ask because you sound, you literally sound, you literally have taken all intonation of Ben Shapiro. That's all you've done. And then you've, then you've, then you've got an alternative dictionary and applied it.
@tonywakuuThat has nothing to do with me.
@mohammedakunjeeI'm from South Asia.
@tonywakuuWhat are you, what are you saying? What are you, what are you talking about? India, India, you dumb fuck. Good one though, man. Again, you're being disingenuous to the audience. All you have to do is Google what a fucking ad hominem is. It's the first words in the thing. It's a logical fallacy. But good job.
@submission2tYou guys look fucking stupid. Guys, guys, it's not...
Ian MalcolmThe ad hominem is in any conversational utilization. It is going at the person, to or against the person. Are you unaware of that?
@submission2tIf I may, Ian.
@tonywakuuYou look real fucking stupid right now, just saying.
@submission2tTony, are you projecting? Ad hominem, there's nothing about ad hominem being a logical fallacy. The closest thing you can make is an informal fallacy, but there's nowhere near about logical fallacy. That's something completely different. I urge you to look it up. I'm trying to defend you here because I don't like the personal attacks on both sides.
@submission2tSo please look that up. It's not a logical fallacy. At best, you can say it's an informal fallacy, but not a logical fallacy.
@tonywakuuNo, it's a logical fallacy on relevance. So I just looked it up just so you guys know.
Ian MalcolmI don't know who's saying you guys. Tony, Tony, the whole point of ad hominem is to go at the person rather than at the ideas. That is what it is. That is the entire purpose of that term. And again, the logical fallacy is that it's a flaw in the IQ.
@tonywakuuIt's a flaw in logic. It's a flaw in your IQ. That's exactly what it is. What is a fallacy?
@rahimlue_aliTony, can you define fallacy? Tony, can you define fallacy?
@thelevantinemanLet's try to give different definitions. One would think that the brain is oxygenated well, but it seems... Can we move on? ...are too large, but no oxygen is... Well, I mean, you can look it up. It's not hard to look up, and you can tell... All right, Tony, yes, you're right.
@submission2tEverybody has looked it up, and it's not... We're going to move on. You're not accurate.
@truthtellerftmLet's move on. Fantastic.
@submission2tMay I...
@joann_marieI'm like enlightened right now. Thank you, Tony.
@submission2tMay I suggest the following so we can actually make some progress? I'm going to change the topic or request the topic to be changed a little, where we ask people their ideas of how we can unite for a better cause. What can we do together between Christians and Muslims that can bring about a positive change for everybody?
@submission2tSo let's focus on answering that instead of getting into these personal back and forths. I'm not sure who's next, Ian or Joann, who has their hand next? Wonderful. Hi, love. If you can answer that question, welcome to the space.
@tonywakuuI posted the definition in the purple pill.
@submission2tHi, thank you, Tony.
Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait. Let's go to in the purple pill. The definition that is avoiding the argumentation to instead go at a person, which is exactly what I suggested. Okay, it's a logical fallacy. Just click on my profile. Tony, Tony, you have done a wonderful service for me here. Because the entire concept there of the utilization of logical fallacy, what does that mean?
Ian MalcolmIt means that you're doing something faulty with the way that you're presenting something. The whole point of ad hominem is that the failure in what you're presenting is that you're going to get... And what part of speech is logical fallacy? Why do you have to jump in? It is because you're going at the person rather than the logic.
Ian MalcolmThat is the entire point of ad hominem.
@tonywakuuIt's unbelievable that you're not... What part of speech is it being used as?
Ian MalcolmWhat part of speech is it being? What are you even trying to suggest here?
@ginger_prontoYou don't know what part of speech it's being described as?
@tonywakuuAgain, disingenuous and low IQ arguments here. Wait, no, Tony, Tony.
Ian MalcolmYou have utterly embarrassed yourself repeatedly in this conversation.
@tonywakuuIt's an uneducated argument because you don't know what part of speech it's a part of. It's an adjective. It's trying to describe what the word is. It's a logical fallacy.
Ian MalcolmTony, the logical fallacy is going at the person rather than at the ideas. It's the entire use of that phrase.
@tonywakuuAgain, good try. You guys did a damn well good try there. You guys failed horribly. It's crazy. You're laughing hysterically, and none of it's that funny.
Ian MalcolmI am laughing because you're missing the most obvious piece of ad hominem. What are you talking about?
@tonywakuuNo, you're missing the biggest piece of ad hominem, and that's the part of... Let me give you an example, Tony. Maybe you understand it.
@rahimlue_aliApple... Hang on, Joanne, for one second. I think I can make him understand. Apple is a piece of fruit, and it is good for your health. You can't say the definition of apple is good for your health. So when they ask me what is ad hominem, the definition... Hang on. Could you be quiet and just listen for a minute and then respond?
@rahimlue_aliWhen they say... Actually, my IQ is 186.
Ian MalcolmYou're so clueless that even when you shared the answer, which actually perfectly aligns with me, ad hominem, Latin for to the person or against the man. is a fallacy where someone attacks the character, motive, or background rather than their logic. That is almost verbatim the definition that I gave you. I don't, and now you're sharing- No, you said it wasn't a fallacy though.
Ian MalcolmNow you're going back to your own point. Again, you can't- No, you said it, a logical point of- Because Tony, the air in the logic or the approach is that you're not going at logic, you're going at the person. I don't understand how you're missing this. Again, it was a-
Ian MalcolmThe wildness isn't even the ignorance, it's the arrogance of your ignorance. This is just bewildering.
@tonywakuuA valiant effort, my friend, but you just failed more. It says a logical fallacy in the text. Tony, you should have just said, like, I don't know, and everything would be okay.
Ian MalcolmLike, it's fine not knowing.
@truthtellerftmThis is why the Jews love this guy.
Ian MalcolmTony, let me try to help you here. The logical fallacy does not represent ad hominem. If you type in logical fallacy, it will not say ad hominem. If you go to Google and say, what is logical fallacy? It won't tell you ad hominem. If you go to Google and you say, what is ad hominem? It will say going at the person rather than the ideas.
Ian MalcolmObviously, that is the piece that you did not understand. That is the primary use of the phrase. This is just unbelievable.
@sharafifursanCan you move on, please? Yes, let's move on.
@tonywakuuAre you trying to say there's only one logical fallacy?
@submission2tNo, no, we're not going to do this, Tani. I think he explained it thoroughly for you. If you just look, consider the inverse. If you look up logical fallacy, you're not going to see ad hominem as a definition, right? It's as simple as that. And I don't want to belabor this point because it's wasting time. So what I would, what I'd like to do is pose that same question earlier and
@submission2tWe'll go to love above all and then you can wait your turn and you can answer the same question. Love, you have the mic.
@loveabovea48592Okay, great, because Tony, he's just a deflection. He was curious about... You can just look up a list of logical facts.
@submission2tLet's not mention his name, please.
@loveabovea48592I'm crying. Don't mention his name. This is hilarious, but just please stop.
@submission2tLove, just answer the question that I proposed if you can.
@loveabovea48592Yeah, but so the reason why... No, I'm on mute. Sorry, love. It's still on mute. Okay, there we go.
@tonywakuuI'm a fucking clown.
@loveabovea48592Basically, it's not even about crypto, right? It's more about the pattern because we keep getting derailed by the predatory behaviors and interests, right? And it basically drags us off. They battle for reality, right? They detour us to frustrate, exhaust, annoy. Get us angry, hateful, divide. You know what I'm saying?
@loveabovea48592Like, I know that I basically I think we should guard our gates, right? Because it's 85 seconds to midnight. It really is critical. And and we're kind of in the process of deciding if how I definitely think we should. I think having been born into actually from. One of the Palestinian cities my father was born in was where the birth of Jesus was first announced.
@loveabovea48592And they were founders in the church. And I am, you know, I'm on the straight path and I do my best to put love above all. And I feel like if we're going to do it, we need to really do it. And that means we should, you know, keep away any cryptos. You know what I'm saying? away from any hate you know what i'm saying any dehumanizing right any anything that you know the labels uh the labels we know where those came from right and they're intended to divide but we can see that they come in all forms but the but recognizing where the detours are who's doing the lying the deflecting the playing dumb
@loveabovea48592Thank you so much for having me.
@loveabovea48592We should focus on connecting. And I think there are a lot of ways that we can do it. I have a few. I don't think I should discuss details here or other people's ideas, but it's extremely simple. It's completely anonymous. It's low tech. It costs next to nothing. And it's really about just literally creating a better world and escaping the matrix because it's 85 seconds to midnight.
@loveabovea48592So I really just want us to kind of develop our commandments, if you will, and our priorities and get busy kind of connecting. And I don't mean in a centralized form, but with centralized capability, with coordination that is more like Hansel and Gretel. Does everyone kind of get what I'm saying with that? Right? Because
@loveabovea48592If you know anything, like if we look at the Palestinian situation, Palestinians welcomed them just like the Armenians, right? But still this vitreous, like sadistic, merciless brutality and cruelty. Now imagine if the Palestinians betrayed them or turned their back on them. I don't know what the best...
@loveabovea48592Thank you. I appreciate your take. Would you agree with the following statement that the weapon of choice for
@submission2tSatan and the demons is fear, anger and hate to push that. And then the weapon of choice for godly people or spiritual people is justice, truth and courage.
@loveabovea48592100. I completely agree.
@submission2tWonderful. Because I think that therein lies one thing that we can all agree on, right? If we focus on justice, truth and courage, This will pave the way to push us along very far. And if we ensure that we don't fall for the fear-mongering, for the hate, for the anger, it will protect us from them utilizing or weaponizing us when we do fall into them.
@submission2tThank you for your input. Appreciate it. Let's move on to the next hand. JoAnn, who is next?
@joann_marieAll right. It's Veracity. Welcome.
@veritasity1Thanks a lot. Thank you, JoAnn. Thank you, A.M. First of all, I want to, by the way, there was a meme, there's a meme of some guy protesting, and he has a sign that says, we deserve better psyops. Well, I think we deserve better morons than Tony W., okay? And I'm moving on. Ridiculous argument. But let me say this. You know, the thing is, I guess I'm a Catholic.
@veritasity1And I'm traditional, more traditional. And the fact is that throughout history, throughout the history of the Catholic Church, the Church has always viewed Islam as a mistake, as something that's an error, as heresy. But it has always, always viewed Judaism as an enemy, okay? They are faithless. They are people without God.
@veritasity1They are anti-Christian. So if ever there were people who had things in common, it's Christians and Muslims. Okay, now here's the problem which I think that we're running into. And by the way, I don't agree with truth on everything. Last night there was a space and it was misstating Catholic teaching on saints. I disagree with them.
@veritasity1Okay, but... The important thing is that he is being honest about history. He's telling the truth about history, about the Jews and the slave trade, okay? That, for example. And the other thing I want to say is that we, as Christians and Muslims, have to look past the attempt by the Jews and others to try and claim that history or try to, like Tony was doing, like the person who calls himself
@veritasity1VeritasX, or whatever he is, from Germany, the conquered state, he might as well live in Israel. But those people are trying to distort history. They're trying to get you as a Christian and you as a Muslim to hate each other because of their distortion of history. And there are a lot of Christians who buy into that distorted thing, okay?
@veritasity1People haul themselves Christian Zionists and even Catholics who call themselves Zionists. Okay, you might as well say Christian Satanism. But I think the way, in the answer to Dr. Strange's question, that we move ahead and we work together on things that we agree on. For instance, anti-trans. We don't agree on homosexuality as a lifestyle.
@veritasity1Okay, those things we agree on. And let's forget our so-called history. There's some truth there, but a lot of times that history is being distorted purposefully so that it will get us to hate each other. That's how I land.
@submission2tThank you, Veritas.
@sharafifursanI appreciate it. Dr. Strange, JoAnn, if I may, I would like to jump in for 60 seconds. Sure, sure.
@submission2tI think it was your turn anyways because you haven't spoken yet. I'm going to step away, JoAnn, for a few minutes, but I'll be back in about four or five minutes.
@sharafifursanYeah, so I want to make a few points, but I just want to answer Mr. Talatel first. So why did you give the Jews the keys to the Holy Land? By that I mean, Zionism started as a Christian idea of getting rid of the Jew from Europe, and later it was adopted by Jews. So it was you who gave the Jews the keys to the Holy Land.
@sharafifursanSo that answered that. I want to jump back for a few things you guys talked about. Regarding the Ottoman Empire, yeah, it was, yeah.
@truthtellerftmBefore you go to your next idea, can you tell me which Christians you're referring to gave a key to the Holy Land?
@veritasity1Yeah, I don't think that's true, by the way.
@truthtellerftmIt isn't true. I just want to know what he means by that. Where'd you get that from?
@sharafifursanYou want the names?
@truthtellerftmDo you have names?
@sharafifursanYeah.
@truthtellerftmGo ahead.
@sharafifursanWell, I would point to Lord Forsbury and Lord Palmerston, who later became the Prime Minister or the Foreign Secretary. Wait, you're with that?
Speaker 12What year was that?
@sharafifursanThat was during the 19th century.
Speaker 12I need the year. What year was that?
@sharafifursanI think it was during the 40s of that century. So 1840s.
@truthtellerftmAre you aware that in 1825 Mordecai Noah from New York created actually a Jewish homeland when he bought over 4,000 acres of land off the Grand Island in New York. So he had the idea for Zionism long before that Lord Mandelson guy. No, I'm not talking about that.
@sharafifursanJews were already for thousands of years singing annually. I forgot what was the occasion that next year in Jerusalem. So there was a long-standing intent of Jewish occupation of Palestine.
@truthtellerftmIt came from Jews. It was a Jewish concept from the beginning.
@sharafifursanOkay, if you'd let me finish that. Yeah, well, if you're talking about the For more information, visit www.fema.org
@sharafifursanI forgot what it is, but yeah, it has been for centuries and millennia and what Jews were singing once a year next year in Jerusalem.
Speaker 8Okay, so then you're admitting the Jewish concepts want to be in Israel.
@sharafifursanI'm sorry, then you're admitting the Jews sort of... I don't want to take a lot of time. Just give me 60 seconds and I'll be done. You can ask me after that. So the Jewish intent for presence in the Holy Land, that is a long-standing belief amongst the Jews and I would point to after the Haskalah and after the adoption of Zionism by liberal Jews and communist and socialist European, Middle European and Eastern Jews, that became what we know nowadays as Zionism.
@sharafifursanThat's not my issue. My issue would be is that what I talked about before is that the Ottoman Empire, same as Israel, is an occupying power and it is oppressing the locals. The Ottomans were the same. They were not indifferent. And when it comes to those who, quote unquote, were regional leaders or, you know, Community leaders in Palestine.
@sharafifursanI would like just to point out to all of them were appointed, be it in total or in part, by the Jewish mandate. So their legitimacy is already under question. Regarding the slave trade, I think I find that that's actually amusing for me when people talk about the slave trade because Long before the slave trade started, Africans themselves were tribes, were at wars with each other and they held slaves and sold slaves.
@sharafifursanRegarding Zionism and the origins of Zionism, I'm talking about Zionism which manifested eventually in the state of Israel. The actual groundwork for that was laid by Lord Falsbury and Lord Balmerson, who actually appointed the British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire, raising the idea of retaining the Jewish to the Holy Land, and thus it brings prosperity for the Ottoman Empire, which was in decline at the time, and also that would solve the European-Jewish question.
@sharafifursanThat's all I wanted to add. And specifically regarding the slave trade, which was the majority of this conversation, I think, yeah, two wrongs do not make it right. Africans being enslaved by other Africans does not justify them being enslaved by Europeans, be it Jews, Christians, or even Muslims in North Africa.
@truthtellerftmSo when you mention Lord Palmerston, let's at least be clear that after 1815, whatever was left of the British Empire was still there, of course. And Parliament was essentially overtaken by Jews. The Rothschilds owned it because they owned the Bank of England by that point.
@sharafifursanYeah, that was after the War of Waterloo.
@truthtellerftmNow you're interrupting me. I waited for you to finish. Please don't be so rude. Afford me the same courtesy. Thank you. So again... Thank you very much.
@truthtellerftmCan you stop? Yeah, go ahead. Please stop interrupting. That's the second time. Go ahead. Go ahead. Finish. Then behave yourself. Please behave yourself. Okay, so again, you don't know any of these basic facts. You left all that out, and you made the false claim earlier that it was Christians that conceived the idea of Zionism.
@truthtellerftmThat's simply false. Also, in 1827, this is also cited, that it was the Rothschilds who made an offer to the Ottoman Empire to buy Palestine from them because they, of course, controlled the land at that time. The Ottoman Empire said no. In 1896, they made them the same offer. Again, the offer was rejected. It was, in fact, the Ottoman Empire that's...
@truthtellerftmI don't even like the Ottoman Empire, rather. I'm not defending them, but facts are facts. They opposed the idea of Zionism in the first place. They were not complicit in it because they didn't want Jews to assemble in a homeland. Neither did Adolf Hitler. People make that mistake as well. So he's run away because all the points he made were all bullshit, essentially.
@truthtellerftmAnd he didn't really make any other points worth discussing. But I just have to correct this point because I hear it all the time. You hear guys like Professor Ilan Pape and even Norman Fickelstein also tried to accuse Christians of being responsible for this whole concept of Zionism rather than attributing it to Jews who had it in the first place.
@truthtellerftmIt 100% benefits them. Christians in no way, shape, or form benefit from the Jewish homeland. They weren't trying to get rid of all the Jews there. Russian Orthodox Christians, for instance, created a panel of settlements. They had their own solution for the Jewish problem. And even after that, then there is, of course,
@truthtellerftmThey created a Jewish oblast as well, so they didn't have an idea initially for any type of Jewish homeland in the land of Baal Sin that directly came from the Jews. They just don't want to take responsibility for the demonic colonial ideology they themselves developed from Judaism itself. That's where it stems from, that the Jews have lived in a homeland.
@truthtellerftmThey even tell you themselves that Zionism comes from the promise that God promised us a land 3,000 years ago. I'm sorry, what does that have to do with Christianity? Thank you for listening.
@submission2tIf you've spoken and you don't have anything else to add, feel free to drop yourself.
@truthtellerftmWith that said, I'm just here to fact check.
@submission2tNo, no, it's fine. Truth, you can say it.
@veritasity1I just want to respond because he did mention me, VeritasX. Real quick, truth is 100% correct. And let me say that what this guy just did, where is he from? It sounds like an Israeli accent. They are lazy with their arguments.
@joann_marieI think his Palestinian living in Israel.
@veritasity1I remember a little bit of his story. Well, he's making Jewish arguments, okay? They're lazy with their arguments. And they want to blame Christians? Listen, I'm not a person who thinks Christians are perfect throughout history. But I know the history of Christian people. And Zionism is a totally Jewish operation. Thanks.
@submission2tThanks. I want to play another short clip. This is from our famous rabbi who says something very interesting. And he's a very famous rabbi based out of Israel. And he's speaking about Christians and Muslims and how you should never allow them to unite. What was that?
Speaker 11If Aesop and Ishmael ever came together, if they ever united, Are you able to hear me?
@submission2tYeah. All right. So you basically, he's using different terminology, but essentially what he's saying is that you can never mix Christian and Muslims, and you cannot allow them to unite, and if you do, it will destroy the world, and specifically, it will destroy their world.
Speaker 13We wish both of them war against each other. They should wipe each other out. Both sides. Hi, can you hear me? Sorry, what was that? Can you hear me?
Speaker 4Yeah, you gotta wait in line.
Speaker 13Essentially, and this is one of many who basically goes around saying that they wish for both of them, 2 billion people, 2 billion Muslims and 2.7 billion Christians,
@submission2tTo essentially wipe each other off. So they're basically calling for a global genocide of 4.7 billion humans. And then there's Rabbi Mizrachi which says that all the idol worshippers, 6 billion, should cease to exist, should not be living. They should not be allowed to live. The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee
@submission2tWhat can we do to bring about unity between Christians and Muslims? Give me specific tangible steps that you would recommend. I'm not sure who's next, JoAnn.
@joann_marieAll right. It is Dimitri. Welcome, Dimitri. Go for it.
Speaker 14Yeah, thank you. I appreciate it. I think the first thing that we can do to unify any people is tell the truth. I joined a little bit late, but I do know you guys are talking about the slave trade and trying to, I guess... I think history tells a different story. In 1456, you have Pope Nick V, who wrote that dumb dumbass or whatever the hell that shit's called.
Speaker 14It laid the framework for slavery. The Portuguese are the ones who started it. They came to the Americas. This is why Portuguese is spoken in South America. I don't know any Black people that speak Yiddish. When you look at the Americas... Who pushed the papal bull that legalized slavery? Pope Nick V. I don't think that's correct.
Ian MalcolmDimitri, can you answer the question? I think it's Pope Alexander VI, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 14You're trying to mute me to assert your point? No, no, no, Dimitri, I'm going to mute you, sorry.
Ian MalcolmI'm making a point about who legalized slavery in terms of the Pope, because you were trying to reference that, and I don't think that you were correct on that.
@submission2tMay I request that we focus on the question at hand? Let's not go into the slavery discussion again. It'll take another hour and it'll go back and forth. I think we've discussed that ad nauseum. And if you want, Truth can have a one-on-one space with you to explain to you, or he has plenty of spaces where he can discuss this at length with the details and receipts.
@submission2tSo with that said, can you answer the question? What can be done, Dimitri, to bring about...
@submission2tI respect it. It sounds like you're trying to be productive. That is not my intent. I wanted to clarify what I heard, so I'll go ahead and defer.
@joann_marieThank you so much for the honesty, Dimitri. I appreciate that.
Ian MalcolmAll right. Just to be clear, truth, am I wrong or was it Pope Alexander VI who many cite was Jewish that wrote the papal bull?
@truthtellerftmIt was Pope Nicholas V. It was Pope Nicholas VI. Sorry, Alexander VI. What he did is he created his own papal bull. He isn't necessarily wrong. There was a papal bull, I think, in 1456 or 1452. I have to look at the exact year. I wrote a post on that, actually. But again, there was Jewish influence in Portugal and in Spain at the time.
@truthtellerftmThat didn't happen on its own. The Jews were absolutely instrumental in helping to bribe and select popes, kind of like what they're doing right now, right? Where you had both Ben Shapiro and Alex Soros literally shaking hands with the current pope right now. So it's not like they weren't influential back then. But Alexander VI, yeah, you're absolutely right.
@truthtellerftmHe won the papacy through bribery and corruption. Usually had like a rich family that was enabling their papacy to be able to succeed. And then when they would get installed, they were doing things like Doing simony, for instance, selling other positions within the church itself. And of course, then also selling indulgences.
@truthtellerftmThere's a lot of corruption going on there. But yeah, they did technically start slavery before 1492.
@joann_marieIan, we need to have a slavery space. I think we haven't had any of this over a year or something. So yeah, it would be awesome.
@ceanndachIf I could just add, so when they did the Spanish Inquisition, they found three Jews who became bishops and one Jew who became a cardinal. So if you're looking for Jews that were involved in that, they're going to be labeled as conversos, not as Jews. That's why you might not have found it.
@truthtellerftmThank you so much. Before the Alhambra decree, 100 years before that, Jews were being pushed out of the Converter to get out, right? It didn't just start in 1492 either. So yeah, there were a lot of Jews that were becoming conversos even before 1492. That's a fact.
@joann_marieExcellent. All right, guys, please repost the space. And if you guys want to, I'll also repost it and follow Ian, Dr. Strange, Truth, and everybody on the panel. And thank you so much for being here. Sally, go for it. And whoever wants to talk, please raise your hand. If not, I'm going to drop you because I have a lot of requests.
@joann_marieGo for it, Sally.
@sallywarnhoff3Hey, family. I've been with you guys all day, and this has been a... Power space, even with all the disagreements and the frustrations and the interruptions, I think there's a lot of truth being spoken here. And I've just been listening and writing down so much wisdom that I've gained from this. And I think we kind of got to go back to, you know, that old simple seek first to understand and then be understood.
@sallywarnhoff3And the host and the co-hosts are managing a very complex switchboard. Thank you for joining us.
@sallywarnhoff3Thank you so much for having me.
@sallywarnhoff3Thank you for joining us.
@sallywarnhoff3I know there's a couple of projects out there on the X space about getting some church bells ringing again, and I hope that happens, but keep listening to each other. And when it's time and somebody has said what they've said, drop their mic and move on and keep realizing and remembering that this, I think at some point I checked, there were over 600 people listening to this space.
@sallywarnhoff3And again, I just... I pray for the hosts and the co-hosts who are handling this chaos and yet keeping the voices being heard loud and clear. And, you know, this is like back in the war days when they had walkie-talkies and the different camps who were fighting the war were communicating with each other to help each other.
@sallywarnhoff3And we don't know how long our voices are going to be able to be heard in this way. But I guarantee you guys... I'm just so proud of you guys. I pray for you guys.
@sallywarnhoff3I believe the truth is going to set us all free and in the meantime the chaos agents come in and try to confuse us about what's going on but here we are still persevering and still being truth seekers and I think that's important but don't forget the chaos agents don't like what's going on out here and it's sort of like I feel like we're sitting at the host and co-host kitchen table and if somebody started throwing shit and
@sallywarnhoff3Thank you for joining us.
@sallywarnhoff3Let's keep doing this. I think Jesus is smiling. God bless you.
@submission2tWow, that was so beautifully said, Sally. And thank you so much for being so patient and joining our space. I can't thank you enough. Throughout this whole day, I've made lots of prayers myself, you know, for God to bless me to speak the truth. And one of my favorite verses from the Bible is that the truth shall set you free.
@submission2tAnd it's such a powerful verse. And I'm saying that as a Muslim, right? I love that verse, and that verse carries so much weight. With that said, JoAnn, if you have anything else to say, otherwise we can go to the next hand.
@joann_marieNo, I'm good.
@submission2tThank you. Again, if we continue to seek the truth...
@truthtellerftmPope Nicholas XIV 1452
@truthtellerftmAnd all the popes all the way up until not even just limited to Pope Alexander VI reaffirmed that same... Well, they had their own interpretation of it to essentially expand the colonization as well beyond just the areas in Africa. They wanted to go to the New World as well. So what they did was more expansionist under Alexander VI.
@truthtellerftmBut just under Pope Nicholas, he oversaw the fall of Constantinople to the Ottoman Turks. And that's where they decided, okay, well, we've lost Constantinople. Let's go spread the faith elsewhere. So he settled for enslaving pagans, blacks, others, non-Christians, Muslims, as a consolation, say, in the name of the Catholic Church.
@truthtellerftmAnd he issued Dome de Versailles under its acclaimed apostolic authority and authorized King Alfonso of Portugal. They were the main superpower at that time. I mean, Portugal's fame were both a part of the Iberian Peninsula. They kind of worked together. But yeah, they would join up officially. In and around 1492-1497, they became one under Queen Isabella and King Alfonso.
@truthtellerftmOr not Alfonso, King Ferdinand. Anyway, this wasn't a fringe believer misusing Christianity. This was the highest authority of the state, issuing this decree of Dom de Versace. And then the subsequent bull of Romanists, Pontifex, issued by Nicholas in 1455, gave the Portuguese what they saw as a moral justification to freely acquire slaves along the African coast by force or trade.
@truthtellerftmThe Edicts are thus seen as having facilitated a Portuguese slave trade from West Africa and as having legitimized European colonization of the African continent. So, yeah, and then there were other popes that followed up to it. Calixus reiterated in 1456, renewed again by Pope Sixtus IV in 1481, and then again Alexander VI you're aware of, Pope Leo X in 1514.
@truthtellerftmwith Precious Dino Tionis also again affirmed it. So this went on for quite a few centuries. So just to be accurate with the facts.
Ian MalcolmNo, this is... And truth, I think what we should do here, because I always knew on the Alexander effort or piece, so kudos. I always like to give them where they are certainly due to that individual with the Nicholas piece. But I think we should probably do a slavery space at some point. I don't know if you would feel comfortable
Ian MalcolmLeading, but it might be really interesting to try and get the actual history of the major pieces of this puzzle, how this thing evolved, and obviously we've got to go all kinds of different places and personalities, but maybe to get a macro-level overview of where this started, at least in the modern world, because otherwise we're going to go well back into antiquities in ways that...
Ian MalcolmMichael Rectenwald Ph.D.
@truthtellerftmIt's just a stupid conclusion. Let's just all acknowledge that each culture, each country, each empire has been guilty of it at some point and just move past it and learn from the past because otherwise you're just going to be stuck haggling over some statistics. It's really not going to validate your point anyway because there aren't 100% accurate documentation on slaves.
@truthtellerftmSome of them died when they were on the ships. They didn't have exact numbers on the ships either. They were mistreated there too before they even got to land. So how are you going to even...
Ian MalcolmNo, fascinating. And look, I always find it very strange when people aren't willing to critique or criticize or to acknowledge their own people's participation in whatever the thing might be. It seems like any aversion to that is driven perhaps by some kind of insecurity or something. But I would be very interested to understand how this all came to be, let's say the influence of the usual suspects, where it might be applicable, but also every other element, right, and the who's who that were behind it.
Ian MalcolmAnd I say that because it seems to me like even up until Vatican II, which if we go into, we note very similar influences that we're pulling all the strings behind that. And I'd be curious if that kind of rings throughout all of this or some of it or most of it. But either way, that we honestly address all of these kind of things.
Ian MalcolmSo we'll have to set that one up, JoAnn. And I do think that would be fascinating. So we'll get that on the docket. And then, JoAnn, who would be next?
@joann_marieAll right, it's Mo Ansar. Welcome, go for it.
@moansarHi there.
@joann_marieYeah, welcome. Can you hear me? Yeah.
@moansarIt's my first time, so please be gentle.
@joann_marieOkay. This is a tough love space, but go for it, Mo.
@truthtellerftmYou're both thick-skinned.
@moansarOkay, it's fine. I joined, I was just on Twitter tonight, X, whatever it's called, having had a long break, and... I was updating some details and I saw this chat. It said Christian and Muslim alliance to remove Jewish supremacy. And I laughed to myself and I thought I might join in and just say hello. So I am everything I'm going to say is 100 percent the truth.
@moansarAnd I only speak the truth. I'm a Muslim. For many decades in the UK, I've been a British public figure. I've appeared on many television programmes, the BBC, CNN, Al Jazeera, the old mainstream media. I have given many talks. I've done many things, but this is not really about that. Last month, I emailed the UK Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, and the Foreign Secretary, Ed Miliband, with a research paper.
@moansarAnd the research paper Thank you very much. Thank you.
@moansarThe title of the paper was this. How the British spent two centuries committing genocide of the Semites, the Hebrew Israelites, and installed a fake narrative of a jury into Israel. Now, along with this paper, I currently have. I mean, I have dozens and dozens and dozens of ongoing legal actions, but I have one particular, particularly interesting legal action.
@moansarIn the High Court.
@truthtellerftmMore real quick. Can you just answer who controlled the Bank of England in the last two centuries?
@moansarIt's okay. I'll just stick to my points for now.
@truthtellerftmIs that all right? You don't want to answer who controlled the finances of Great Britain that would have enabled any type of Zionism?
@moansarTo be honest with you, my first time here... I don't have much to say, but I will say it.
@truthtellerftmThat's a relevant fact, though, right? Like, I mean, he who dictates finance can dictate policy.
@joann_marieYou could learn something new, Mo.
@truthtellerftmWhat was Rothschild's old saying? I cannot assist on the throne so long as I control the monetary policy.
@moansarI understand the way you're going with that, but I don't want to go down a cul-de-sac. I have a point to make.
Ian MalcolmSo we'll let Mo go and we won't interrupt and jump in. But Mo, before you do, just one question. Was it a genocide in Gaza?
@joann_marieYou're muted, Mo. Can you answer the question?
Speaker 10Mo?
@moansarHi there. Sorry, I think the thing got muted. Can you hear me?
Ian MalcolmYes, you can. Mo, I'm just kind of curious. Sorry about that. Was it a genocide in Gaza or no?
@moansarYes, of course it was.
Ian MalcolmOkay, all right. Go ahead.
@moansarYeah, so I don't know if that was a... I had to pass, but anyway.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, you did. We get lots. And I just bring it up. Lots of people come in that don't like talking about that.
@moansarSo that's OK. Look, I just to give you a rough idea. I've been an imam. I've been a scholar. I've been a BBC journalist. I've been on all the television programs and been on all the news channels.
@joann_marieThat's fine. What are you? Just say what you need to say, Mal.
@moansarRight. Yeah. Well, what I want to say is this. So I found out a few years ago, recently really, that I thought I was always British Asian, but I'm not. I'm actually a Hebrew Israelite. And my people are known as the Bani Israel. And my family, which is the royal family of Azad Kashmir, are the House of Judah. And I spoke to the Board of Deputies and the Chief Rabbi.
@moansarAnd I spoke to someone from the Vatican. I spoke to the Prime Minister's office in 2024 and I issued a press release and I let everybody know that I found out something quite incredible. That for 3000 years, the Jewish rabbis have been praying for a time when a descendant of King David, who's a singer, who's a jurist, who is a healer,
@moansarwill rise up from society and I guess put his foot down, make a mark and start asking questions.
@joann_marieIs that you, Mal? Are you the chosen one?
@moansarBear with me. There's a lot of confusion about this. Now, I've written to the Prime Minister. I've issued press releases. I'm happy to forward emails. I mean, I am a legitimate person. I know this is kind of bizarre.
@submission2tMo, can you sell yourself a little bit more to us so we really get it?
@moansarRight, my name is Mal Ansar. I am a prince of Kashmir. I live in Coventry. I've just moved here a couple of years ago to look after my dad who was sick. I am, if you like, the captain of my team. And my team is a team of the Bunny Israel. And currently I'm trying to challenge...
@submission2tSo, you're a prince from... You're a prince from Kashmir or Nigeria? Do you also have billions for us?
@moansarVery funny. I have currently... He's a trillionaire. Come on, Dr. Strange. Actually, I was born into a council estate in Watford in 1974.
@submission2tJust finish your point because we've got a lot of hands and I want to make sure. And please answer the question that I proposed early on.
@moansarThe question that was on the topic, which is Christian and Muslim alliance to remove Jewish supremacy. So I am currently suing in the High Court, in the King's Bench Division, the Chief Rabbi's Office, my friend from Surrey University on the Board of Deputies, Alexander Goldberg, and the Board of Deputies and the Chief Rabbi's Office, all three of them, for anti-Semitism.
@moansarBecause when I found out that I'm Semitic, and when I thought I was British Pakistani, They're more than happy to be my friends. But when I found out I was a Semite, they turned their back on me. So I'm suing them under the equality...
@joeyyggggggggggThey're anti-Semitic. They're anti-Semites.
@moansarThey themselves are anti-Semitic. Because I realise my people are Semitic. So the Semitic people, the original tribes of Israel, which is the paper I've written and given to the Prime Minister, are the Afghans, and there's about 45, 50, 60 million... I mean, the numbers vary, but... There's about 50 or 60 million Afghans and my people, the Kashmiris, which is a Hebrew term, there are 5 million of us.
@moansarSo my royal family of Kashmir that live in Coventry in England, my father's here, my uncles, my sons, and I am, if you like, the captain of my team. So I am a prince from an ancient royal family. We are not rich. We have land, we have title, we have deeds, but more importantly, we have history. So my line is the Davidic line.
@mohammedakunjeeWell, Mo, Mo, can I ask you?
@joann_marieI'm just so tired of people claiming to be from Palestine. It's like the black people are the black heroes. The Jews think they're from Palestine. You, Pakistani, think you're from Palestine. Like, bro, just fucking leave the Palestinians alone. I've got a quick question. This is just insane.
@mohammedakunjeeOne second. Mo Ansar, are you the fellow that was promoting LGBTQ amongst Muslim populations some years ago?
@moansarThat's Akunjee, isn't it? It is, yeah, it is. Akunjee, about 12 years ago, maybe... You did, didn't you? Bear with me. Akunjee, about more than a decade ago, in a posh hotel in London, there was a dinner for the Muslim Council of Britain. And I attended that because I was on the senior leadership team of the Muslim Council of Britain.
@moansarAt the time, I was also a...
@submission2tI'm so sorry, I couldn't take it anymore. It was just derailing, going off and off.
Ian MalcolmAll of the self-promotion is just insane. But Dr. Strange, the other day I was in the grocery store and I saw this walnut and then I decided that I wanted to make a pecan pie and I said, I wonder if I can make it with a walnut. And I like pecan pie because when I was a kid I used to have it around Christmas time. And when we would have it, the pecan pie would come with apple pie.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and then Truth Teller would come over. We would have apple pie, and then we would both go out on our blue bikes. And you know who else had one? Was Max Nordeau, the Jew. His aunt liked his blue bike. Truth Teller told me he wanted a red bike, but he couldn't have one because Max said that that was Jewish supremacy.
@submission2tBut don't forget your royal lineage, Ian. Just sprinkle that in there.
Ian MalcolmAnd then the good news is, then Truth and I simultaneously got emails that came in and it told us that we were actually of African descent and that our great uncle... He had a billion dollars for us to inherit, but in rupees or in emeralds. And it was weird because he was also related to Elon Musk, who I guess his dad had an emerald in mind.
Ian MalcolmReally crazy, right? No, it's just wild, the stories.
@ceanndachDid you use the Star of David to cut the pie, Ian?
Ian MalcolmYes, the Star of David utensils. They are always very, very, very popular this time of year, especially around the Christmas tree. That's where they are really... Oh wait, shocks! I messed up my story. That was weird though. Akunjee, do you know, tell us more about that guy because when Truth said you did, didn't you? He just kind of avoided that question.
@mohammedakunjeeWell, he's lost a lot of weight to be fair to him. So, you know, it is about 15 years ago. He was maybe about three times the size he is now. And he was walking around on various TV shows sort of talking about how The LGBTQ position is entirely compatible with Islam, which of course it is not. It's not compatible with Judaism, it's not compatible with Christianity.
@mohammedakunjeeGod does not like bum boys, frankly. That's the main message over the last 3,000 years. He just doesn't like them. He's always writing against them. Every prophet he sends says, you know, stay away from the bum. But Mo went in the wrong direction on that one. And then on top of that, Many Jewish folk from Israel are running away from Israel because it is a war zone.
@mohammedakunjeeHe appears to want to argue that despite being Kashmiri, that he wants to go to Israel on the right-to-return policy. He's just always on the wrong path, it seems. And so, you know, one can only wish him well on that. I do hope he makes it to Israel. It would be... Realized achievement.
Ian MalcolmWait, so the guy who's pushing LGBTism is now wanting to go to Israel?
@mohammedakunjeeYeah, so, well...
@joann_marieHe's like a promised Jew or something like that.
@mohammedakunjeeRight, well, what he said is he's a Kashmiri prince. But somehow he's discovered that he is Semitic, and therefore he wants to invoke the right of return to Israel. There is a modicum of truth in something that he said there, which is that there is a line of argument, a line of evidence, That shows that there was a tribe of Israel in Afghanistan.
@mohammedakunjeeSo there is a line of argument for that. And the Israelis have been trying to push the Afghans to, I guess, resurrect that particular line so that they can have a claim to Afghanistan, I'd imagine. It's not the other way around. They don't want the Afghans to come to Israel. They want to take a piece of Afghanistan. But there we go.
@mohammedakunjeeOther than that, one thing I've never heard. of Kashmiri lineage towards a Semitic, you know, legal argument.
@joann_marieBut isn't he Pakistani?
@submission2tThe lengths people go to feed their ego and get attention. I mean, the guy, look at this picture. Yeah, the cross behind him and then his name and then subsequently on his profile name it said something about Star David.
Speaker 10Son of Jacob, Dr.
@mohammedakunjeeStrange, I can guarantee you one thing. If you try and reconcile LGBTQ with Islam, you will break your mind.
@submission2tAgreed, agreed. But let's move on because he was a waste of time and I removed him and I apologize without asking Ian or Joann. I just couldn't take it anymore because he was going to go on and on. Joann, who was next?
@ceanndachJust real quick, Dr. Strange, I'm going to take off, but I just want to tell you guys I enjoyed space and keep it positive and, you know, let's get the good ideas out there and focus on the things that will help everybody instead of the things that will divide us.
Speaker 8Thank you so much.
Ian MalcolmAmen on that, Belteshazzar. Could not agree more, my friend. And why don't we do the following? Why don't we go through a couple more hands, JoAnn? The individuals that would like to come up, we'll try and rotate them. But why don't we try to keep everybody specific and tight with their delivery? And as a result, in the next maybe 30 minutes or so, we can have everything wrapped up, including a, let's say, a set of closing remarks from Dr.
Ian MalcolmStrange. And then also, maybe we can get a little bit more musical entertainment for Joey Goode to close the space down. But, JoAnn, who is next?
@joann_marieIt's you. Go for it, Jo. Welcome.
@gioyjojoThanks, JoAnn. Salutations, everybody. Great space. I just want to make a suggestion. Because it's so hard to retain so much info, like you guys, I don't know how you retain it yourselves. Truth Teller, for instance, just rings it off like it's a butterfly flying out there. Oh, like a butterfly singing like a bee. Yeah, right on.
@joann_marieI don't retain anything, Joann Marie and Dr. Strange.
@gioyjojoYeah, this is my point. Has anybody ever suggested a public library to, like, for example, point out the bad faith actors, present day, like, who their connections are, etc., etc.? Promote it, if possible, when possible?
@gioyjojoSo you're saying you want a public library to be able to point out all the bad faith actors?
@truthtellerftmIs that what you're asking?
@gioyjojoAnd retain information for everybody and then eventually, you know, promote it and get it out there to the masses.
@mohammedakunjeeWell, if you run off the roster of the House of Representatives and the Senate, then, you know, you're about every single name there, you're 98% likely to hit one of those bad faith actors.
@submission2tNo, so Gio, to some degree that's actually being done. Thank you.
@gioyjojoI appreciate it. Thank you so much, Gio.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and just one thing on that, Gio. I mean, first and foremost, TruthTeller's retention is superhuman. I don't know how he does it. But when it comes to that idea of the library, I know it is not that. But what we're trying to do, and I think he might also do it for some of TruthTeller's content, if I'm not mistaken, at some point in the future, with Allegedly Dank, we've been taking all of these spaces.
Ian MalcolmMoving all of them through his AI. And I shouldn't say we because he's done the entire thing. But he's moved all of them onto Apple Podcasts, Rumble, Spotify, and also ianmalcolm84.com. And I bring up the latter because on there it has a search criteria and filter. And he's working to build that out with his self-contained AI bot.
Ian MalcolmThe antiseptic bot is what he calls it. And he's built it so it can come into these spaces. We've been able to ask it questions. We're still getting some bugs worked out of it. But nonetheless, it's amazing what he's been doing with it. And the intent is that perhaps that antiseptic AI will be able to scan all the content within all of those spaces, along with a lot of different open source materials.
Ian MalcolmAnd he's basically pointed it... Thank you very much.
@gioyjojoWe're not going to have this platform forever, right? Absolutely. It's a matter of retaining it, like saving it into your hard drive and taking your hard drive out of your computer so they can't wipe it out or whatever, right?
Ian Malcolm100%. I'd put as much as you can, and I bet TruthTeller actually, I envision that he and David Nietzsche have 10 to 100x the number of books that I have, but I've got a decent-sized collection Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThank you for having me.
Ian MalcolmIf they have their way, and that's why we do the things that we do to try and prevent that from happening, but if they have their way, they will continue to narrow the field of available information as they expand and give free of cost, of course, AI that will be completely manipulated. And so we're going to look down the barrel, and speaking of 1984 with Orwell, that entire idea of all history has been rewritten.
Ian MalcolmIt terrifies me what they would be capable of if they win. They go out and keep in mind a lot of these digital book resellers, they're going out and they're claiming that they're buying some of these large stores, large collections, large publishers, large. What do you think they're doing with all those? They're probably literally just incinerating all of the copies that they can get their hands on, right?
Ian MalcolmThey're trying to destroy the records of all that came before us so that they can construct the future, right? And it is this idea of he who controls the present gets to write the past. which gets to then dictate the future, right? That's loosely from Orwell. And that's where all of this is going. So to Gio's point, do what you can to collect important information and at some point what might be nice, Gio, is to take, say for example, all of that data that allegedly Dank has put onto that website and see if he can just put it into a format that people can just download the whole thing.
Ian MalcolmRip all of it, right? And then if you pair it up with your own
Ian MalcolmThank you for having me.
Ian MalcolmAnd to be able to put it somewhere where we can try to keep it free from the manipulation, that would be a huge win, of course.
@joann_marieExcellent. Thank you so much, Gio. All right. I don't see Hans again, so I only see Mandy's.
Ian MalcolmGo for it, Mandy.
@joann_marieOh, I'm the only one.
@rabbimandyxI've been lurking in the listeners for a long time, really appreciating this space. Thank you. For everybody here. I always love truth. I can't believe that people still come into these spaces and try and try and pick a fight with truth. It's like I don't know what they're thinking. Anyway, that's pure entertainment and just incredible to watch.
@rabbimandyxAnd whenever that happens, I always learn so much and just reminded again why if I hear something that truth says and I'm like, oh, that's not what I believe. I'm like, my belief is probably wrong then. And I have to go look into it. But anyway, I wanted to, this is actually separate from this space, and I didn't mean to, you know, be the first person to talk, but apparently I am.
@rabbimandyxI wanted to recommend doing a space, possibly, and it could be like maybe a Sunday space, but one where we would talk about some of the forbidden texts. So some of these books that you're talking about, Ian, that you said you've got, and I've got some really good books. I asked Truth recently, actually. I went to a website where there's a bunch of old books that are not being published anymore, specifically about Jews and then about the Khazars.
@rabbimandyxAnd I ordered a bunch of books and I wonder if there would be a space we could do where we could just read maybe an excerpt, you know, go around the room and read an excerpt from a book that we have that is a quote unquote forbidden text to get some of that knowledge out there.
Ian Malcolm100%. Truth, would you be open to that?
@truthtellerftmYeah, sure. I've looked into the topic myself. Arthur Kessler's book, The 13th Tribe, is a good reference point. He's Jewish himself, by the way. He makes that claim. He was the guy who also witnessed the Holodomir in 1932, which always makes it laughable when certain members of the tribe try to deny it happened. Well, that's not what your own people say, who was actually there in the USSR on a train.
@truthtellerftmI'm still not 100% convinced on that You're saying on the Khazar piece? Yeah
@truthtellerftmBut look, what does that add up there very quickly is that even before they adopted Judaism, the reason why they selected it is because it aligned most closely to its faith. Because again, before the king, King Bulan, I believe it was, decided on the faith, he interviewed a Muslim sheikh, he interviewed a priest, a Christian priest, and he interviewed a Jewish rabbi and learned about his faith.
@truthtellerftmAnd he's like, okay, they were Phalic worshippers, for instance, right Ian? And we know that... The tribe happens to like these types of symbols. You see the obelisks, for instance, right? And they were doing sacrifices, child sacrifices at the time as well. So like, well, this is perfect. We can pretty much just keep all of our rituals and adopt ourselves as Christians, call ourselves Jews.
@truthtellerftmAnd it started with the higher-ups, you know, their little inner circle. And then it gradually spread. It was like a top-down gradual conversion. Not everyone converted. Many of them did, and they're carrying on with their degeneracy. So that didn't change. And that's when Russia, as it united, it was the Rus' back then, under King Vladimir, had to intervene in and around 950, 960 A.D. to break that little empire apart.
@truthtellerftmAnd then many of them would end up in what's modern-day Eastern Europe, in Poland, Belarus, etc.
@joann_marieThe theory that they say, hold on Joey, the theory that say that they pretended to convert so that people would not associate them with the Jews that killed Jesus, it's also very possible to me.
@truthtellerftmIt's a theory, but the main claim is that they were told to select a religion because they had no religion, and they're doing all this degeneracy, and they just picked Judaism because it best aligned with their values.
@joeyyggggggggggThe other two religions were taken. They were completely occupied. So Bulan couldn't be the religious leader of Islam because that was occupied by the caliphate. And he couldn't be the leader of Christianity because that was occupied by the Roman Empire at that time. And this was around the time of the Hijri. So I think this was, they chose Judaism as a response for the takeoff of Islam, which was, you know, turned into be the fastest growing religion ever.
@joeyygggggggggg2 billion Muslims in the world
@joeyyggggggggggWhatever, they're king of the Khazars. They had to hear it from somewhere. And we know that Judaism was pretty much almost extinct at that time. But there must have been a few, you know, a few left to be able to get the word to the Khazars.
@truthtellerftmThere's missing tribes, Joey. Remember, there's like multiple tribes from the 12 tribes. This is what they say, right? Somehow, you know, the Assyrians wiped them out mysteriously. Some might have ended up in Ethiopia. Some in modern-day Turkey. They say the Ashkenaz actually originate from a tribe in Turkey. Who knows?
@truthtellerftmThis is what they claim. And then they migrated over to Khazaria. Who knows, right?
@joann_marieI'm still 50-50. But no, yeah, let's do it so that more people can listen to it.
Ian MalcolmAll right. And also, really quickly, truth on. I know it's a jump in content, but since somebody was talking about some of the movements here, and... I posted up, I don't know if you've looked into this a whole lot, but Robert Wilton, the journalist who, he was, I guess, rather famed throughout Russia and was a correspondent.
Ian MalcolmAnd the thing that he wrote in the book, The Last Days of the Romanovs, I was curious if you've read that, if you're familiar with it, and if you have any substance around the comment that he made where basically within Russia, Soviet papers, they had noted that the number that it comes out to is like 82% of all of the people in the central government at that point of significance were Jewish.
Ian MalcolmI'm curious if you have any thoughts on the author of the book, if you've come across that, and if so, if you have any ability to either affirm that that was based in something reasonable or not, because AI will tell you, yes, that was written, yes, he claimed that he got that off of a newspaper, but there's no proof that that was the case.
Ian MalcolmBut if it is, it's... A pretty sensational data point that we could point at to suggest that the Bolsheviks and then the Russian government that followed were, you know, overwhelmingly Jewish, of course.
@truthtellerftmYes. And look, besides that source that you cite, Vladimir Putin himself said that the first government, whatever, the authority in the USSR was primarily Jewish, over 80%. And I even had a list when I did my debate with Haas of 80% of the commissars that were Jewish as well. The Politburo were all Jewish too. And again, the first law that they instated was an anti-Semitism law in 1917.
@truthtellerftmWhy would they do that as the ruling party if they weren't majority Jewish? Because they sought to protect themselves from any type of criticism against other policies they would seek to legislate, right? They, of course, ruled with an iron fist. There was no democracy going on there. And they immediately started, you know, doing collectivization and imposing things like famines and, you know, even starting gulags under, it was Lenin the first to charge, Lenin Trotsky.
@truthtellerftmBefore it was then just Lenin, and then by 2324 it was Stalin. So yeah, look, all the chief positions were held by Jews. There were some Shavuoskoy among them. But they were lower tier, and they were always overseen by the Jews. And they also needed loans as well, because they went through Jacob Schiff's main loan and Max Warburg's as well.
@truthtellerftmSo they carried on being funded into the 1920s as well by the same banksters of the Federal Reserve to enable their rise in the first place. because the first thing they did as well was steal the gold in the Russian treasury so that they could get an immediate return on investment from the Jewish banks. It was always Jacob Schiff's plan to want to, again, destroy Russia.
@truthtellerftmThat's why he financed the Japanese to also invade them in 1904, 1905. They claimed that as a victory, by the way, in 1905. They were weakened, but they weren't defeated by any means. And then they, again, tried multiple times to assassinate Sir Nicholas II because of his policies. He was not an evil leader. This is a guy that basically gave away land to the serfs and allowed them to become property owners.
@truthtellerftmThey had gun rights. Again, gun rights, property rights. They had insurance. They had very good labor practices. And you don't have to take my word for it. William Howard Taft, you know, American president, went and saw for himself and spoke with the Tsar and noticed that, hey, we should have these types of labor practices in America.
@truthtellerftmIn America at that time, there were no rights for kids. Kids were being taken from homes in the 1900s and put in mines to work as young as 5-6 years old in these horrible conditions for 10-12 hours a day. These practices weren't allowed in Russia at that time under the Tsar. That's why I find it laughable when they say, oh, we needed communism so we could give rights to the workers.
@truthtellerftmThere already were rights for the workers. If you're going to do that, America actually took some of what they learned when they... Alexander Taft came to America and then he's like, yeah, we should do this too. And it took till 1938, by the way, because it was decentralized. It was the states that were deciding on laws for kids.
@truthtellerftmBut in 1938, they ruled that you can't employ kids under 16 in these mines because of the conditions. They lowered the work hours as well. They did it at the federal level. Otherwise, they were only instituting laws in America at the state level. So I digress. The point that you make in the book reference is correct. I have the names of all the tsars that were there.
@truthtellerftmThey were all jurists, not tsars, the secretariats, the commissars that were in charge in the first government. And I had the video where Vladimir Putin, he says this in front of rabbis, in front of Chabad Lubavitch rabbis. They're the central authority, right? They control Putin, yet he says this openly. And he derives his facts from the Soviet archives that he has access to while he was prime minister.
@truthtellerftmHe was president. He was both. He was in both positions. What was his name? Sergey Medvedev took over as president briefly for four years, and he's serving his third straight term now. So, yeah, facts matter. And look, I wouldn't argue too much with Grok. It's a very sensitive issue. They don't like to admit that, you know, Bolshevism, communism derives from Judaism.
@truthtellerftmI mean, they wrote the memos, they wrote the books. It was Rothschild that helped finance Karl Marx. Yes, Frederick Engels wasn't Jewish, but he was a Shabbos goy, and Moses Hess absolutely was Jewish. The whole point of communism, it's very similar to communism as well, is that the Jews would assume authority through violence and take over someone else's land, and they would control the means of production, and then the workers, they were supposed to get amazing rights, but they never did.
@truthtellerftmThey got horrible rights, and they were stuck in tiny little boxes and having to work 10, 12-hour days under these horrific conditions, and if they ever dare speak up, they'd end up in gulags, slave labor camps. The original concentration camps. So they came up with that before Germany, before National Socialism even existed.
@truthtellerftmThey were doing it.
Ian MalcolmWell, really well stated there. And let's get on to CB.
@joann_marieOh, I think Mandy wanted to say something.
@chrisbrad212Sorry darling, I was first. Put your ass back in your car. No, for real though. Don't get disrespectful now.
@chrisbrad212Let me speak. Jesus Christ Almighty. Right, okay, so Muslims and Christians, well, hey, listen, I've not got anything against the Jewish people. It's the Zionists and the dirty bastards, excuse me for the language, but fuck off, that are lobbying the whole of the USA Senate and the whole of the USA is fucking basically Israel.
@chrisbrad212You dirty rotten bastards, for real, what is, what can be done here? It's fucking unreal, in front of all our eyes, you're like, okay, APEC, and fucking all that fucking mob, like, get yourself to fuck man! What else can I say? I'm really being honest here, and I cannae say anything else, I like... Get it right, fucking round all these, like, oh, we've got money, like, have you really?
@chrisbrad212Have you ever been slapped in the fucking face? Have you ever been punched in the face? It's not in the day with that. In the day, it's like, okay, money talks, but it don't sing and dance and it don't walk. Like, okay, we'll take these all, we'll take these all, take what one tells. If I want my keys, I can't get my house.
@chrisbrad212I'm getting a hotel! Okay, for what?
Ian MalcolmI apologize for the interruption. Was that Forever in Blue Jeans? Was that Neil Diamond? Is that what you were singing there? Yeah, that's right. You said that and my brain was racking itself. I was like, why do I know that?
@chrisbrad212Unbelievable! What the fuck? Excuse me for my language, I can only apologise. It's a wee bit later here. Have you had a couple of things, CB? I've had a couple of Heineken's. It's neither here nor there. I'm just telling the truth.
@mohammedakunjeeYou are definitely front-line material for the fight. Definitely front-line material for the fight.
@chrisbrad212I'm not going to sit in a fucking mud hut. I'll tell you that.
@joann_marieThank you so much, CB. I don't know. I wasn't understanding everything. Okay, thank you. All right, Bryce, go for it.
Speaker 15Go for what?
@joann_marieI don't know. You had your hand up, no?
Speaker 15Oh, did I?
@briciusxI'm so sorry. I didn't think I had my hand up and my freaking microphone's been going crazy. I'm so sorry, guys. Drop me down.
@yamanitruthAll right, thank you so much.
@briciusxYeah, go for it, Mohamed.
@yamanitruthThank you so much for allowing me to share my thoughts in your space. And thank you for the hosts for doing an amazing job. I've been listening to this space for a while now. Really impressive stuff. You know, I lived in the US for close to a decade, but I'm Yemeni. I'm now back in Yemen fighting with the resistance. And when I saw the topic of this space,
@yamanitruthIt reminded me of a Quranic verse. There is a verse in the Quran, I'm not sure if it was mentioned here before, but the verse pretty much says, and I'm quoting one of the translations here, You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity towards the believers, the Jews and those who associate others with God.
@yamanitruthAnd you will find the nearest of them in affection to the believers, those who say, we are Christians. That is because among them are priests and monks, and because they are not arrogant. This is from Quran 582. So it was really incredible for me to see the title of this space because it's very relevant to what the Quran already tells us.
@yamanitruthYou know, I'm really happy that people in the U.S. are kind of waking up to this reality now. When I left, or before I left the U.S., I had written an article about the 21st century enslavement. And it's incredibly all about interest and usury. It was a very shocking reality for me. Thank you very much.
@joann_marieGo for it, Mohamed Saroum.
@yamanitruthThank you, thank you. So they would have to, you know, pay off these loans after they graduated. And then if they want to buy a car, then they would take another loan and they would have to pay interest on that as well. And eventually they get married and they will have to buy a house. Excuse me.
@yamanitruthSorry, just give me a minute.
@joann_marieIt's okay, Anne. God bless you. Yemen will be liberated really, really soon. Thank you.
@chrisbrad212I apologize, Mohammed. I didn't mean to burn.
@joann_marieAll right.
@yamanitruthKhattak. No, not so good. I was just eating and something went in my throat.
@joann_marieAll right.
@yamanitruthAnyway. So this new enslavement model that is applied to people in the U.S., it was very shocking to me. When I first arrived, I had lived, you know, I first got to the U.S. as an exchange student, and they lived with an American family, very kind people, little Christians. And, you know, the mother was maybe 58, 60 years old.
@yamanitruthAnd the father was close to being 70 years old. And before the exchange program ended, I had learned that they just finished paying off the loan on their home after maybe 30 years, I think. It's just crazy how the Jewish supremacy has actually applied a new enslavement model. I'm sorry, I will continue in a little bit.
@yamanitruthLet me just go clear this.
@joann_marieAll right. Thank you so much for coming out, Mohammed. All right. Katak, go for it.
@khattak33678Thank you, Joann. Hey, everyone. Very interesting discussion throughout the day. And I appreciate all the effort that you guys have put together. I think you guys make a lot of people worried. Some of the people that are working actively against the alliance, against the dialogue and an inquiry that is based on appreciations of both communities.
@khattak33678So all kudos to you guys. One of the things that I see as a challenge in this alliance is a very easy way That somebody that's a bad actor or that potentially could destroy the thought process and the identity that is being formed here to come in and slide through the multiples of stories in both communities and its histories.
@chrisbrad212Let's just speak the truth. The Jewish people, some of them are alright. The rest of them can fuck off.
@joann_marieI'm not going to stop this. You need to stop it as well, okay? And I'm also going to drop you because you cannot control your impulses. But nice to meet you. All right. Yeah, go for it.
@khattak33678No worries. I think I'm going to stay away from the food. I might choke as well after following Stevie.
@joann_marieHe seemed like a really, really good guy, but he was just like talking so much.
@khattak33678Yeah, so I was just gonna land it and it's more around the approach to the dialogue within the two communities without leaving the theological conviction in either group. And that's where I think is important. And that what we call it an inquiry and a dialogue based on appreciation. If we frame it in that context, those stories of divisions and criticality,
@khattak33678Don't hold any values. And I tuned in early on in the discussion with Dr. Strange and somebody else was going and justifying certain stories from the past. If we approach this alliance from appreciating what works, what are the values that are shared between, and what essentially gives life to this alliance, and that becomes a foundation, I think those... And without, you know, it's worth repeating, without losing...
@khattak33678Thank you very much.
@khattak33678To sue in the division. I mean, this is an uphill battle. There's groups of people that are being shipped from different parts of the country and countries around the world to go and visit Israel and be indoctrinated in a specific way. The main groups that are being targeted are from the Christian community, but Muslim communities as well, that they sue in and they put in the seeds for
@khattak33678Muslim Zionist identity as a paradigm as well. So Dr. Strange and Ian and Joann, you guys are doing an important work. A framework that could shape, provides a guidance, an emotional state and potentially an identity that's forged in that alliance, which is rooted in appreciating what works, what gives this life to this alliance and building on that, I think is worthwhile.
@khattak33678And I personally am thirsty into that direction. You guys are doing amazing work, so I'll be tuning in to more of these kinds of discussions.
@joann_marieWell, thank you so much for coming up, and Jan, we believe that it's so important to identify what is causing all of these problems, and it's, yeah, so thank you so much. All right, Mandy, do you have your hand up still or no? Yes, do you see it or not?
@rabbimandyxAm I a ghost again? Yeah.
Speaker 5Oh, good.
@rabbimandyxOh, lovely that. Twitter isn't making me a ghost today. I wanted to mention something just came to mind that, and this is kind of the way I see it, but this is something interesting that I don't think people realize that they do every day. So most Americans work in a company that I would say most Americans probably don't love their job, even though they do it every day.
@rabbimandyxAnd they're working together with other people in the office that they probably don't. There's always some weirdo or some nepotism in the office that, you know, makes it slightly unbearable. And yet they work together towards a common goal. Well, why do they do that? Because they're getting paid. And so we work together for a common goal when we are getting paid just to get by.
@rabbimandyxBut we can't work with people for a common goal if we disagree with them on even the slightest thing to actually change our lives and get the boot off of our neck, which is incredible to me. How many other times, like when I go to the grocery store, am I checking everybody there that they believe everything I believe in order to just shop there?
@rabbimandyxI'm not, actually. I'm not. I don't need a purity spiral just to take up arms with somebody and say, metaphorically, and say, hey, we have a common enemy. Let's do something about this. This is why throughout history we've just been trampled on because we're, I mean, this is a retarded strategy. We're retarded about this.
@rabbimandyxThank you so much for joining us.
@rabbimandyxThank you so much for joining us.
@joann_marieAnd there's like a duo with matches like over there, like setting more fires. And it's like, no. So, yeah. But no, I loved everything, Mandy. And thank you so much. All right. Uncle Buck, welcome back. Go for it.
@yamanitruthHey, thank you so much. So I was telling you guys about how interest is kind of... No, no, no.
@joann_marieYou're not Uncle Buck, Mohamed. It's...
@jgivens3410Let him go. Let him go. He had his hand up before me. Let him go. This is about unification. I love that.
@joann_marieOkay. Go for it, Mohamed, and then we'll go back to Uncle Punk and stop joking.
@yamanitruthYeah, sorry, guys. Sorry. Excuse me. You know, the point I was trying to make is that usually interest in the US, it keeps people... People enslaved, you know, you can't move, you can't do anything because at the end of the day, if you stop paying interest, they will kind of control, they will, you're aware of the repercussions of if you stop paying loans better than I do, but at the end of the day, it's like a chain.
@yamanitruthIf you stop paying this interest, Thank you very much.
@yamanitruthis regarding the entire propaganda game that the Jews and Zionists have been playing since the 70s and even before in the U.S. I think people in the U.S. are more unjust, like they have gotten so much hurt or they got negatively affected by Thank you very much.
@yamanitruthto kind of control more of your politicians and leaders and companies, etc. Sorry, the second point I was trying to make is regarding the entire propaganda game that they have been playing. A recent discussion I had with a Syrian fellow, he asked me the question, why before 1979,
@yamanitruthThe Iranian Revolution took place. Why did the U.S. and Saudi Arabia, for example, the Gulf states in general, why were they happy with the Iranian leader then, the Shah? At the end of the day, the Shah was a Shia. He was a Shia Muslim, Twelver, the exact same sect that the Khomeini was as well. After the Iranian Revolution,
@yamanitruthSuddenly, they're not friends anymore. There are documented images of their friendship. I'm not saying just partnership. They were friends, close. What changed? The question that we should ask, what changed after the Iranian revolution? If they're claiming it's the religion, it's the exact same religious sect. What really changed is Iran no longer submitted
@yamanitruthTo the Empire, it no longer submitted to Zionist colonialism. I preface this information by saying if we study history in any capacity or if we read any type of story about past civilizations and empires, usually we would read about... You know, the geographical area that these empires span on and their beginning, the start of their decline, their leaders, etc.
@yamanitruthToday is not very different from what we read in history. Today we are living, the biggest empire today is the US. Unfortunately, it is now, it has been controlled by Zionists. So I call it the Zionist or the American empire run by Zionists. And this empire, whenever it loses a geographical region, it fights with all its might and power and influence to restore that region and at the same time to make people believe that this region that escaped the empire, they want to make people believe that
@yamanitruthThey are the worst. They are the devils. So back to Iran. What changed after the Iranian revolution is that Iran no longer submits to the empire. So now in the West, the Zionists, they need to push a propaganda campaign to convince people that Iran needs to be liberated. And this is commonly used for other invasions by the U.S. Freedom What they did, and I've seen this propaganda myself You know, you would see this picture of girls in bikinis And they would say, Iran before the revolution, Iran before Khomeini Iran under Shahrool, and picture of girls in bikinis And on top of it or below it
@yamanitruthIran and Khomeini's government. Now they control women. They prevent them from being free. This is the propaganda that they push to the people in the West. But, you know, they can't push the same propaganda to people in Arab and Muslim countries. The propaganda they pushed to our countries, to the Middle East, to Muslim countries in general.
@yamanitruthis the demonification of Shia sect, sectarian hatred. You know, they use their tools. At the end of the day, you need to know that most Gulf states were founded with direct support from the UK when they were occupying the Middle East.
Speaker 4Yeah, thanks be to God.
@yamanitruthYeah, yeah, exactly. Mohamed, if you...
@submission2tIf you can wrap it up, please, I'd appreciate it. And please don't make this a sectarian issue because we can go back and forth.
@yamanitruthNo, no, I'm not trying to make it a sectarian issue.
@submission2tYou kind of are, though, Mohammed, and I try to avoid this as best I can. No, no, no, hear me out. No, but you're saying it that the... Let's move on. Let's just land your point and tell us how Christians and Muslims can come to some sort of an alliance. Without making it about Shia Sunnis.
@yamanitruthNo, no, no. It's not about Shia Sunna. I'm just saying, hear me out. I'm telling you that Zionists, they need to push a propaganda campaign in the East. They cannot push the same propaganda they pushed in the West. This is my point. The Zionists pushed propaganda in the Middle East. That was all about secretarian issues.
@yamanitruthShia versus Sunni. So they make people in the Middle East hate Iran for the revolution that they did. At the end of the day, this kind of separation, this segregation amongst people is the reason the Jews, the Zionists are triumphing today.
@submission2tI fully agree with you and I've said the same thing, but that hate is actually on both sides. And I can give you receipts on that, but let's move on.
@joann_marieAnd yeah, they do that. They do left and right, men versus women, black versus white. It's like they do that because if we focus on what's causing all of these problems, they lose. So they rather keep us divided and fighting. And that's why we're holding this space. But thank you so much. I agree with everything that you said.
@joann_marieAll right. Uncle Puck, welcome back. Go for it.
@jgivens3410Hey guys, great show. Listened midday for the vast majority of the day. Had to bump out, had some errands to run. Just wanted to come back. I'm surprised you guys are still going. The fact that you guys have gone, I think probably, I'm going to guess, maybe 10 hours on this one topic through various speakers. And it seems to be a pretty damn big audience.
@jgivens3410Tells me how much this message resonates with the vast majority of both Christians and Muslims. And how deathly afraid the Zionists are of it. And here's why. In my opinion, they use the worst of us to try to define the majority of us. But they don't know who we are, right? And they propagate it. They propagate it. They amplify it.
@jgivens3410And meanwhile, they keep us distracted by constantly, you know, raising the cost of survival, right? I don't hold... I don't hold... Any animosity to any Muslim whatsoever for this reason and this reason alone because I try my best to walk in the light of Jesus Christ. And that man represents the best of Christianity, right?
@jgivens3410They sent out all these... False prophets like Huckabee and Ted Cruz. And I mean, even when you're putting Donald Trump in front of me quoting scripture, I'm just like, that is not the best of us, right? And that what becomes, what MAGA has become in my opinion is basically just a religious cult that the Zionists use to push hate and animosity towards Muslims.
@jgivens3410I would say the Zionists have been very effective in taking the worst of the Muslim community, right? When you talk about all of the criminals I look at the people that they demonized in all of these Muslim countries from Saddam Hussein to Yasser Arafat to Gaddafi, right? And I dig deeper and I'm like, wait a minute, under these guys' rule, Christians and Muslims live together in peace.
@jgivens3410Like before ISIS took control and you had these algers, you know, you had this, that Al... Azari or whatever his name was. I mean, these guys were literally criminals. They were hated by Muslims, not because they were Muslims, just because they were assholes. These were the type of people that they were jailing. Right.
@jgivens3410And all of a sudden they magically become the leader of ISIS. Who's funding them? Right. It wasn't Saddam. It wasn't Gaddafi. It wasn't the leader of Jordan. Right. It wasn't any of those guys. Right. These were the guys that were coming out and saying, Hey, we're not sponsoring all this, but what did it do? It made for a great catalyst to pit the Muslims against the Christians because you could not have a unified Arab League.
@jgivens3410Like they were doing this early in the 60s and the 70s when the Arab League was literally coming out and saying, hey guys, honestly, America, you just need to start boycotting Israel. I mean, this shit started back in the mid to late 60s and got even emboldened in the late 70s. To where they started naming bills after Jewish senators, you know, behind this anti-boycott Israel Because they know, if the Muslims and the Christians ever freaking caught on, both sides would cut off the money And if you cut off the money to these sick, degenerate, Zionist Jews, the game is over The people that, it's called a religion of peace for a reason
@jgivens3410The people that truly walk in the light of the Prophet Muhammad are men I respect. I respect Muhammad Ali. I respect Malcolm X. I respect Farrakhan because when I listen to those guys talk and the things that they are saying, they are not just empowering the Muslim community. They are saying things that empower humanity.
@jgivens3410And it's the same thing on the Christian side. So do I think we need to have a Christian and Muslim alliance to remove the Jewish supremacy? Like yesterday. Like last week. Like last month. Like decades ago. And the moment everybody can just put down the propaganda... And stop letting these minority few people who align with the Zionists continue to preach their little petty talking points like they say death to America or they're the great Satan.
@jgivens3410The moment you stop buying into these dumbass freaking Super Bowl campaign taglines and we all come together, life's going to get a whole lot better for humanity. So Ian, JoAnn, Dr. Strange, I want to thank all three of you for having this discussion. It's been a great listen. And I hope you guys continue to have them because united we stand, divided we fall.
@joann_marieAbsolutely beautiful. I loved everything, Uncle Pac. Super inspiring, 100%. All right.
@amerxmirzaJoAnn, can I just check to see if you can see my hand? I can.
@joann_marieI was about to go to you, but Ian and Dr. Strange.
Ian MalcolmYeah, real quick, Uncle Buck, is it okay if I clip that and just share that in the post? Because I think you just summarized the entirety of the space in three minutes. It was awesome.
@jgivens3410Y'all can do whatever y'all want to do, man. Clip it, write it down, take a picture. I don't care, y'all. Let's just come together. It's not for us, y'all. Thank you for joining us.
@jgivens3410I have no problem assimilating the Jewish people. I have a big problem assimilating with Zionists. I cannot deal with supremacists of any kind whatsoever. And this whole kind of wink, wink, nudge, nudge, you know, you're just anti-Semitic, you just hate Jews. While at the same time talking out the other side of their mouths that, you know, well, you know, we don't want to talk about this.
@jgivens3410We don't want to discuss this. It's a trope, even though it's factual. I'm done. Behave yourself. Join the rest of humanity. Or let's get together and let's deal with this problem once and for all. Because there's more of us than there is of them. And the moment we all realize it, it's over.
@submission2tThank you so much, Uncle Buck. I really appreciate your take. And if anybody's not following Uncle Buck, please do so. He has a wealth of wisdom in what he says, and I always love hearing him. And he's phenomenal on the economics, right? If you want to understand economics, it'd be great to listen to him. To Uncle Buck's point, I posted something up on the Jumbotron.
@submission2tIt's an article from an Israeli newspaper from a couple of years ago where it specifically states that the Israel diaspora, Let me make sure I get it right. The Israeli Diaspora Affairs Ministry is pursuing a campaign using fake accounts and fake sites to push pro-Israeli content in the West and anti-Islam content because they've figured out that the only way they can gain support for their genocide and support for whatever they want to do
@submission2tis to demonize Muslims in the West so much that the average American will turn around and basically support the genocide, continue the billions of dollars that we send to Israel and the forever wars, which is now in the stage of going into war with Iran. And that was from two years ago. Now, if you look at even going back to the global war on terror, and we've discussed this ad nauseum,
@submission2tThe famous show, thousands of movies were made by Hollywood and almost all of them, whenever it related to anything related to war, you knew who the villain was, right? That conditioning has led us to basically create this manufactured fear and hate of the other, which... Thank you very much.
@submission2tAnd then basically created the U.S. version of it. And all the evil characters or all the villains were almost, not almost, it was entirely Muslim. And it was all to, again, perpetuate this global war on terror, to perpetuate the Israeli first agenda or to achieve the greater Israel project. So the point I'm trying to make is that...
@submission2tThank you for joining us.
@submission2tPush the next war on Iran and how we need to go fight them over there before they come here. I'll land there. Let's go to hands. But I just wanted to add that in there because it is a manufactured propaganda that if we continue to fall for it, it comes at our own detriment. Let's move on. I'm not sure who is next. Amr?
@submission2tI believe Amr. Hey, Amr.
@amerxmirzaHey, Dr. Strange. I hope you're well. It's been a long time since we spoke on the space. I've not been coming much. Joann, nice to meet you too, and Ian also. I see Akunjee here. Again, haven't spoken for a while. Right, so lots of really interesting things have been said here. I mean, I literally could have added and butted in and commented on a number of them, but I want to stick to the topic about the common values.
@amerxmirzaor at least the alliances between Christians and Muslims and it's something again hats off to the topic because it's something which has to be discussed we have to recognize the commonality in the religions there are nuances, there are things which we're not going to agree on but the overwhelming history the ethos, the thinking of both faiths
@amerxmirzaspecifically around the fact that they're both centered on humility in common good. There's a mutual respect for Jesus and Mary. We believe in a virgin birth. We believe in the miracles of Christ. We believe that Christ is to return at the end of times. And I want to touch on the eschatological aspect of this in just a bit.
@amerxmirzaSo there's a lot of things, even the decency in dress and something which Mohammed was talking about earlier on about loans and which is technically usury. So usury was also forbidden in Christianity until the Bank of England got commissioned in whatever it was, 1690-something. There were adjustments made to Christianity to suit political power struggles and these sort of things.
@amerxmirzaSo fundamentally, usury is a very, very big sin within Islam. I mean, interest is a big deal, right? For those of you who are Muslims, you'd know there are some very, very strict rulings against usury. Because just as a side point, just to highlight this, usury is seen as diametrically opposite to charity. So if someone's struggling for food and medicine, for example,
@amerxmirzaYou take advantage of their poor state. You say, okay, here's 100 pounds or dollars. I want 150 back when you're done. And that is using someone's plight, right? So this is why it's fundamentally wrong and, again, diametrically opposite to charity. So, you know, again, this is a commonality between the two phases. We have to focus on these things.
@amerxmirzaBefore I get on to the end times, the eschatological stuff, because I think that's quite significant as well in terms of the Antichrist. We all also believe in the Antichrist and that sort of thing. But I want to talk just very quickly on what's happened in Europe for the last, let's say, a thousand years, right, where the Jews were persecuted.
@amerxmirzaAnd, I mean, truth is, in a listener, he'll give you a very good summary of whether they were actually persecuted or whether they deserved it. I'm not the authority for that. But the fact is, Thank you very much.
@amerxmirzaThank you very much.
@amerxmirzaWhat we've seen in Europe, and it peaked, I say, in the 1960s, was this denuding of Christianity, the removal of Christianity under this secular type of idea, right? So secularism was seen to be a good thing. But fundamentally, what was happening was that the religious or the Christian identity of the Christians in Europe, I can speak for the UK here, and possibly in the US, it was being dismantled.
@amerxmirzaAnd it was through a process of consumerization or consumerism. It was through a process of, I would even argue, Hollywood was in the mix there, to sort of bring people, desensitize them to certain things, whether it was nudity, whether it's indecency in dress, whether it was swearing. Some of the films that get past the censors now...
@amerxmirzaYou could not dream of getting past the censors in the 60s and 70s. There was still a level of decency and recognition of decency, the cognizance of decency in those times. So some things happened, ever since the 60s especially, but some things happened over the last 100 years where people have had this culture taken away from them.
@amerxmirzaNow, my theory is that there has been...
@amerxmirzaGet ready for the Noahide laws. You have to be conditioned for it. One second, Akunjee. Give me a sec. So the point I'm getting to here is that...
@amerxmirzaJewish Supremacy
@amerxmirzaThank you very much.
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@amerxmirzaI'm losing my train of thought here. So the point I'm making here is that they've had an issue with the Christians and I think they are active in taking that revenge in the form of denuding the Christian people of their culture. And again, with Muslims it's just about the state of Israel. They're going to demonize us to take root and to expand this entity we call Israel.
@amerxmirzaSo the supremacy... Thank you very much.
@amerxmirzaWe know what the tenets of both Christianity and Islam are, have been, and always were there, as well as the mutations in some of the thinking. But the point is we know what the fundamental tenets are, and yet for some reason, especially the Christian people, have been completely displaced from this. And you have to ask yourself how they got there.
@joann_marieAnd one of the ways... Amir, land that song.
@amerxmirzaYeah. Sorry, Joann.
@joann_marieOh no, just keep going but land it soon because you're... Yeah, sorry, I've got a habit of going on.
@amerxmirzaI do apologize. Look, I will land it because, look, I just wanted to highlight that there's a significant commonality between the two faiths and we do have a common enemy, which is a supremacy. Thank you very much.
@amerxmirzaCommonalities in the eschatological teachings of Christianity in Islam, for example in terms of the Antichrist, what the Christians call the Antichrist, we call the Dajjal, right? So the Dajjal will come, and I won't get into detail now because it will go on for too long, but what I want to tell you, and this is something I believe, given that things like technology, control, we believe in this one eye, the Dajjal is known to have one eye, okay?
@amerxmirzaIt's quite a significant feature that we're taught about him, that he has one eye. Now, A lot of people treat this as a metaphoric description, as do I. But if you get into the details of technology, which I think is part of the digital system, that one eye in my mind is that phone in your pocket, and then by extension what the big tech companies are doing in terms of knowing everything about you.
@amerxmirzaSometimes I know you better than you know yourself. So that for me is all the precursory... Thank you for your time to speak about this.
@joann_marieAwesome, thank you so much, Amir, and I agree with everything. All right, Logan, and also I want to say hi to Rabbi after you. Go for it, Logan.
@jloganmccorkleYes, I just want to try and get this out real quick. So I'll go ahead and preface this by saying and quoting Socrates in my way. If I know anything, it is that I am totally retarded. Second thing I'll add is that I'll speak mostly from a Christian perspective on this is. The issues that I have noticed are that there are plenty of Christians who seem to have lost their salt when it comes to these manners.
@jloganmccorkleI mean, we take our instruction from Christ our Lord and his gospel from Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. And he tells us and points to us very clearly about these things. And we are being fed a lot of subversive lies. We are to hate anyone. We are commanded to reject these things to overcome our human nature. I don't need to hate a Muslim or hate a Jew in a sense in order to call them to repent because that is what we are called to do is to bring them to Christ, not necessarily be so accepting or find commonality among them.
@jloganmccorkleYes, they may have a way, but as far as we as Christians are concerned, it is not the way. So it is incorrect, in my opinion, for us to open up the doors and open the gates of Toledo on this matter. I don't have an issue with any who would like to assimilate, you know, convert or conform in a sense, but to consider that there would be some type of alliance in any way just seems incredibly misguided to me because
@jloganmccorkleIslam's entire intention is subversive as far as I can tell, and it is the same way with Judaism and many Jewish supremacists, as I will try to correctly label them.
@amerxmirzaI welcome some examples from you, my friend.
@joann_marieHold on, Amir. Let's hear him out, and then Dr. Strange.
@jloganmccorkleOh, no, that's fine. I think I said what I needed to, but if someone would like to ask me any questions, that's fine as well.
@amerxmirzaI'm interested in how you think there's Islamist subversive, quite interested in what your thoughts are on that.
@jloganmccorkleHow I find alternative, or I'll just put it like pagan religion subversive.
@amerxmirzaWhat makes Islam paganism?
@jloganmccorkleWell, by pagan I just mean it's not Christian, it's foreign in a sense.
@amerxmirzaSo anything foreign to Christianity makes everyone else pagans?
@amerxmirzaWe believe fundamentally that the main message of Islam is the unity of the Creator. Sorry, mate.
@submission2tLook, Logan, essentially what you said that anybody who's not Christian is subversive, they're pagan, it's subversive, right? That's what you're saying. So that means like about six billion people are somehow your enemies.
@jloganmccorkleNo, that wouldn't actually line up with my faith because I'm not necessarily...
@jloganmccorkleWar is a difficult concept.
@submission2tSo what you said was if you are essentially non-Christian, you're subversive, you're pagan and subversive.
@jloganmccorkleNo, what I'm saying is that there are plenty of Muslims and Jews, just to slap it into a hard category for a hot take, who are subverting Christians.
@submission2tExample, please. Can you provide some examples?
@jloganmccorkleWell, to think or to try and say to, let's say you're trying to say to me that me and you can live together and you can have your laws and I can have mine. It doesn't function that way. Our laws can't coincide together.
@joann_marieNobody's saying that. We're saying that we need to unite and recognize who's doing all of these wrongs in the world so that we can stop the mass migration, the mass bombings of everything so that your daughter stops going there to bomb people for all that.
@mohammedakunjeeThere is something that both sides agree on.
Ian MalcolmHang on, hang on, hang on.
@joann_marieGo for it, Ian.
@joann_marieIan?
@submission2tIan, you there? We can't hear you, Ian. But I'm glad you hit the mic because it was all over the place.
@submission2tLogan, the problem while Ian's fixing his mic, the problem I have with your approach is that you seem to selectively focus on Muslims where the criteria you've mentioned would also include, let's say, Hindus.
@joann_marieOh, it's going to crash. Okay, guys.
@submission2tOh, shit.
@joann_marieYeah.
@submission2tI don't know if he's going to... The challenge I have is that I think you're so psyop that you selectively focus on one group of people without realizing that the same can be applied to any other group, that same logic that you mentioned. I'm going to unmute, but go ahead, Logan. Clarify what you wanted to say.
@jloganmccorkleuh well what i would say to what you just said is that that is a blatant lie and that is not what i said so please clarify what you were trying to say how are muslims subversive i didn't say just muslims okay yes i believe they are would you like me to say specifically who
Speaker 8I want you to define what you mean by subversion.
@truthtellerftmWhat subversive activity have Muslims been promoting in America? Like pornography, for instance, homosexuality, LGBTQ, having multiple baby mamas. Does that come from Muslims, for instance?
Speaker 16Okay, so is the question what is subversive or who is?
@joann_marieYeah, you're calling the Muslims subversive, so tell us what the Muslims subversive is.
@truthtellerftmI gave you some examples of subversion. Can you tell me which one of those came from Muslims?
@jloganmccorkleOkay, so you're wanting me to cast all of the subversion on Muslims?
Speaker 17Guys, this is what they do.
@jgivens3410This is what they do. They throw red herrings in the room, they throw straw men in the room, and then they act fucking idiotic like they don't know what they just fucking...
@submission2tSorry, uncle. Go ahead. I accidentally hit the mute button, uncle. Look, uncle, what's quite clear here... No, no, no, no, no, no, it's okay.
@jgivens3410It's okay. My mom taught me when an idiot is speaking, just let him flow. But I'm telling y'all, this is what they do. These are these straw man red herrings that they throw into effective, productive conversations. And then when you challenge them on it, they act like they're kindergartners.
@jloganmccorkleWell, I mean, nobody will shut the fuck up or stop muting me to let me answer a question.
@jgivens3410All right, just answer it.
@truthtellerftmYou wouldn't answer. You just repeated it. So where did those sources of subversion like pornography, LGBTQ, gay marriage, where did that stem from?
@joann_marieGambling, I don't know, just tell us.
@submission2tWho is subversive and how were they subversive?
@joann_marieYeah.
@jloganmccorkleOkay, well speaking from a, like I said in the beginning, I'm going to speak from a Christian perspective on this. The who would be pushing the subversive would be the father of lies, the devil himself.
Speaker 8Oh my God.
@jloganmccorkleWell, you want me to say you don't understand the cause of subversion, I can do that.
Speaker 17Guys, let him go. Let him go. Let him go. Go ahead.
@jloganmccorkleI mean, if you want me to just blame somebody in here for the subversion, I mean, that's fine too, but that's not where it comes from, truthfully.
@truthtellerftmOh my God. Okay, I'm going to tell him. I think you're the source of subversion right now because of your dishonesty. I'd like to answer this though. If you're going to say that it's Muslims or someone else that's the source of subversion, Why don't you look at who brought an organized crime into the U.S. that, well, was a source of a lot of the subversion in America, such as, say, the Arnold Roth things of the world that actually teamed up with some Christians, like Italians, Italian Catholics and Irish Catholics, to push organized crime and bring about, say, gambling when it was illegal and do prohibition when that was illegal, organize card games, of course, and also run prostitution rings and also import and traffic opium.
@truthtellerftmThose are all sources of subversion. They were all done through a collaboration of Roman Catholics from Italy and Ireland who were working with the Jews. A lot of them came from Russia and Poland, like Meyer Lansky, Arnold Rothstein, Bugsy Siegel, for instance, one of the founders of the City of Sin. There's a major source of subversion, wouldn't you say?
@truthtellerftmGambling, prostitution, all in one place. So I see a lot of the subversion in America came from a collaboration between Catholics and Jews. Jews at the forefront because there's a hierarchy, of course. Then, of course, there are Freemasonic buddies. and the Vatican. And then, of course, you have the evangelical Christians.
@truthtellerftmWhat's funny to me is you're not willing to look in the mirror and admit there are Christian subversives as well, the likes of, like, Ted Cruz, a Christian evangelical, he says, who's representing one of the highest authorities as a senator in Texas for over 10 years, who says, you know, I joined the American Congress so I could be a big supporter of Israel, literally admitting that he represents a foreign interest.
@truthtellerftmThat's subversion, isn't it, when you don't represent your country and you represent a foreign interest? So it looks to me, I don't even need you to tell me because I know you're not going to tell the truth because you are the subversion and the source of division. You're unwilling to admit the source of the problems and the divisions because it's either fear, cowardice, whichever it is, it doesn't matter to me.
@truthtellerftmBut it's quite clear because they don't hide who they are anymore. The mask is off. They've already said they wanted to buy the country up and they want all the funding, financing to go towards Israel. They want the Goy to go die for Israel, in fact. So all that's out there. That isn't coming from Muslims. That's coming from Christian evangelicals and Jews
@truthtellerftmMainly Jews at the top. They control these Christian evangelicals and tell them what to do. So let's at least be clear about who's in charge.
@jloganmccorkleOkay, well, all three of you are the ones who have blamed the Muslims, just to be clear.
@truthtellerftmCan you explain to me who's the one who revised the Skoll? Who's the one who created the Skollfield version of the Bible? Was that a Muslim? Because that's the version, isn't it? Genesis 12, 3, the edition. Okay. Which is what get through sites every time you ask about the Bible.
@jloganmccorkleWould you like me to further explain my answer to where it might make a little bit more sense?
@truthtellerftmI don't need you to explain to me. I need you to answer my question. I don't need you to frame the question. That's what I'm trying to do, but you're losing it. Because you're subverting from my question is what you're doing. You're diverting from it. Why don't you explain to me who started in 1909? Who funded, actually?
@truthtellerftmDo you know who Samuel Antrimire was? Do you know who actually funded the revision of the Scofield Version of the Bible?
Speaker 8Yes.
@truthtellerftmWell, who was it?
@jloganmccorkleCan I get back to my point now?
Ian MalcolmNo, you want to answer the question. There you go. Hang on. Jay, can you answer his question specifically? You just said you know the answer.
@jloganmccorkleYes. Let me go back to answering the question.
Ian MalcolmNo, no, no, no, no, no, no. You're going to answer that direct question.
@jloganmccorkleI'm going to answer, yes, that direct question.
Ian MalcolmYes, you're going to answer the question.
@jloganmccorkleWho wrote the Scofield Bible in 1909?
Ian MalcolmYes, you just said that you know it.
Ian MalcolmAre you currently typing into the computer? I mean, I thought about it, don't get me wrong, but wouldn't it be Skyfield? Oh, S-C-H-O-F-I-E-L-D?
Ian MalcolmCan you type that fast too? You want us to give you the spelling so you can put it into Google so you can get the answer to the thing you just said you know? Is that what's happening?
@jloganmccorkleYou asked me who made the Schofield Bible and you're demanding I answer it so wouldn't it be Schofield?
Ian MalcolmYes, because you just said that you knew who was behind it.
@joann_marieIf you don't know, you can say I don't know and that's okay.
@truthtellerftmYou're allowed to say you don't know? That is the major source of subversion.
@jgivens3410Would you ever write an 8th grade term paper where your teacher instructed you that you had to make an objective opening statement and then support it? With following paragraphs that supported that statement and then wrap it up a conclusion. These are the basic simple things you tell Malcolm and Dr. Strange are asking you to do.
@jloganmccorkleOkay, well, what everyone keeps interrupting me is, is everyone here denying that humans have an innate nature to do bad things? Is that what we're saying? I just want everybody to note.
Ian MalcolmThat what just happened was some arrogance around the statement that they knew something they didn't know, the unwillingness to acknowledge that that was happening. When we then called it out, it was a deflection, a dodge, and then acting as if they didn't understand the question. All of this completely aligned with a certain Austrian painter's writing about certain debate tactics.
Ian MalcolmAnd now that we have demanded that, you're playing victim about the fact that it happened. We've come full circle! You're demonstrating all of the problems that we see when we discuss these things. It's wild. Wait, did he run away? Yeah.
@jgivens3410Of course! He's a D student and he's fucking running home to mommy getting pissed off blaming the teacher because he fucking took the test unprepared.
@yamanitruthI think we should excuse him guys because initially he said I don't know anything so...
@amerxmirzaGuys, I think what's important to recognize right here is there's a lot of people like him out there. And if I can make a reference to level three of Maslow's hierarchy, where identity is one of our fundamental needs, and then esteem, to be important in your circle of people. When people are low achievers or they just feel psychologically disenfranchised, then they will stick to an emotional sense of identity and they need to put others down to give themselves self-worth.
@amerxmirzaThere's no intellectual backing behind what he said. There's not even a spiritual backing behind what he said. So it's literally identity, emotion, and I pity people like that.
@mohammedakunjeeI just want to ask him one question. Given that the Senate is mostly Christian and the entire body politic is mostly Christian in the United States, and vocally so, why is usury still not banned?
@amerxmirzaBecause they don't have... Look, we know what the composition of the US government is, whether it's the Senate or whether it's anywhere else. There's so much influence from the Israel lobbies in these positions.
@mohammedakunjeeIt was a question for him because if anyone's being subversive and he's a Bible thumper, which is fair enough,
@amerxmirzaI've never been able to understand why no one questions the three to four billion dollars that goes to a country in the Middle East artificially created, a genocidal state, which gives free healthcare to its people, free education to its people, and yet in America, in the US, you've got people dying because they can't get the healthcare.
@amerxmirzaWhere's the logic in that? I could never understand why the American people have been able to... Thank you for joining us.
@jgivens3410Whoever made the statement that our Senate and our Congress is Christian, I just got to push back on that, brother, because it's not. It's Zionist.
@amerxmirzaThey've bought into the evangelical story. The funny thing is, Christian Zionism was started by Christians in around the 1830s, right? You had the Plymouth Brethren and these are the people here in the UK who sent missionaries out to the Middle East to sort of propagate this idea of end times, you know, to accelerate the coming of Christ.
@amerxmirzaAnd then it was, as everyone knows here, it was Herzl and the group of atheist Jews from Central Europe who picked up the idea in 1897 and began the whole thing about the Zionist movement. These were fundamentally atheist Jews who picked up an idea created by Christians and demanded a country in the Middle East For religious purposes, or outwardly, ostensibly religious purposes, they actually use the plight of the Jewish people in the pogroms, the persecuted Jews in Russia and Germany.
@amerxmirzaThey use their plight, use those people to have the State of Israel created for themselves. They don't give a shit about these Jewish people.
@mohammedakunjeeJust to clarify, I don't believe for a moment that the people who are in government... Any denomination of religion, they just use the terminology to promote themselves. But that was a question I was putting to Joe, which is if Islam is subversive and it's only one point something percent of the US population or any other group, the vast majority of people in the positions of power in the United States are Christian.
@mohammedakunjeeSo who's being subversive when they're not banning usury? And he believes in the Bible. The Bible bans usury. But America is founded on usury, so given that the ostensible position of the people in power in America are Christian, why haven't they instantly, tomorrow night, voted to ban usury? Who's the one being subversive?
@malleusigWell, because they're not really Christian, right? They don't really understand their own religion. Unfortunately, it is a failing of our race, of the European race,
@malleusigAnd so all of European history is littered with Europeans borrowing money from Jews and then Jews 30 years later ended up owning everything. All right? That's a problem. And part of the reason why it keeps going is because in America we have a melting pot, a term invented by, I think Ian probably knows, or Chuchel definitely knows who made up that phrase.
@malleusigIt doesn't come to mind now.
@joann_marieIt's Israel something.
@malleusigIsrael Zangwill
@malleusigBut the problem is we have to vote in the same system as literally everybody else now, which is why it's not going to be adhering to Christian or even sensible policies.
@jgivens3410It's also why real Christians are basically just abstaining from the whole American electoral process. Because again, as they wake up, they realize this is not right. And a true Christian is just going to recognize when something is not right, but more so when something is evil.
@amerxmirzaI think we're still living in a time where the bread and circus factor is still very much in our face, right? So give people the entertainment in the form of circus, TV, films, all this sort of stuff, and a little bit to live on. And they haven't got time or attention to focus on the real issues and how they're being controlled and manipulated.
@amerxmirzaI mean, it's bizarre how it still works. But fundamentally behind this is technology and by extension, entertainment.
@malleusigYeah, and juice.
Ian MalcolmI was going to say, there's a triangulation there of leadership. The only thing I would push back on is with what Rabbi said. I actually don't think it's tied to intellect because there's lots of smart people that are not scheming and backstabbing. And there's lots of smart people that can be tricked by people that do precisely those things, right?
Ian MalcolmI think it's basically what has happened is over the last maybe 2,000 years, let's call it, there's been a weaponization of high-trust society's tendencies and the concepts of empathy and, let's say, concern for the other. And it has been utilized by people that have an indifference to the others, a complete interest in the self, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd then an unbridled ability to just lie without shame, right? And so you put those two things together and you basically, I actually haven't seen the movie, but I know that there was one that was basically called like the invention of the lie or something.
@joann_marieOh my God, it's such a good movie and you need to see it.
Ian MalcolmLike the first person that comes up with the idea of lying and they just go around and they're like, yep, I'm God, guys. They're like, ooh, right? All of your things are mine. And they're like, oh, okay, here you go. And so you can see how the willingness of one group of immoral people when injected into a group that traditionally have just been compassionate and caring because that's evolutionarily speaking how they kind of maintain their day-to-day, right?
Ian MalcolmThat those two things create the perfect storm. And the irony is if you then look at what has happened to the people that were subverted, they're now being used, it feels like anyway, as the military arm and the muscle Thank you very much.
@malleusigNo, 100% I agree. The thing is, I think actually what you said is pretty much what I said because the conflict is between compassion and wisdom, right? And what's happening is we are being conditioned to override our own wisdom with unreasonable amounts of compassion. And that's the way this works. I've said before, Jewish success is the result of people lying as a group
@amerxmirzaThat's a really important point. I just have to say that's a really important point. They say outrageous things and every half-decent person, half-sensible person says, hold on, how can that be? They must be the truth because it's so crazy. It's like the IDF calling themselves the most moral army in the world. For a moment, an average man would step back and say, hold on a minute.
@amerxmirzaIt's such a wild, outlandish statement. Maybe it's true. We can't help but think that.
@malleusigThe thing is, take everything you said and pretend that one Jew said it. Imagine that it wasn't all the Jews saying we're the most moral army in the world. Imagine it was one Jew saying that. Would it have the same effect? No. Because if it was one Jew saying it, everyone would be like, well, it's one nut saying it. Obviously it's untrue.
@malleusigBut if every Jew is saying it, if every Jew is telling a lie like that, in order to call it a lie, you have to deal with the fact that all the Jews are saying it together. And the problem is, when that happens, You're called an anti-Semite because you're saying, well, all the Jews are lying. So that means you think all Jews are lying, which means you think all Jews are liars.
@malleusigWhich means you are an anti-Semite, and so people refrain from calling out the lie. This is how the game works in its simplest form. But the point is, I agree with what you said, Ian, completely. We are being asked to give up wisdom and intelligence for the sake of Thank you so much and hi everyone. Yeah, there's no such thing as a good Jew.
Ian MalcolmAs to the last conversation...
@joann_marieHave you heard of Bobby Fischer? There is a couple of unicorns out there.
@malleusigHe is such a good Jew. Martin too. Martin's awesome.
@submission2tYeah, there are plenty of good Jews. But anyways, carry on.
@lesleyflyThank you. I'd like to speak back to the title. Muslims and Christians must remain separate nations. That's not to say that two different nations can't come together. Thank you for joining us.
@lesleyflyIsrael is using National Socialism to genocide the Palestinians. It's okay for the Jews to use National Socialism, but anybody else who tries to use National Socialism against the Jews is called a Nazi.
@lesleyflyThis is a great space and thank you for the mic.
@lesleyflyAll right, thank you so much for coming up, Lester.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and I see Truth has his hand up along with Rabbi and maybe Muhammad. Why don't we start with Muhammad, then we'll go to Truth Teller, we'll go to Rabbi, and then we'll go to Dr. Strange for some parting words.
@yamanitruthYeah, I just wanted to address maybe the biggest challenge for a lot of Christians when it comes to alliance or partnering with Muslims. I think, you know, After the 9-11, the biggest false flag in history, it was very easy for Zionists to push the propaganda that all Muslims and terrorists, and it was very easy to attack them and kill them.
@yamanitruthIt laid a very nice foundation for their lies. But, you know, they often use the verse from the Quran, kill them wherever you find them. And I would like to take this occasion to invite all of you to actually... Study the context before and after this verse because oftentimes when other people use verses from the Bible out of context, it's usually misrepresented.
@yamanitruthSo this is actually the same and we are actually commanded by God in the Quran to say to people of the book, to Christians and Jews, that we believe in what was sent down to us and we believe in what was sent down to you.
@yamanitruthFor more information, visit www.fema.org
@yamanitruthFight all of humanity. On a spiritual level, they're not working alone. And as Mandy earlier noted, perhaps she has left the space, we need a common foundation. We don't want to... We're not asking you to... We need to have a solid spiritual foundation that through it we can fight lust, we can fight money. So when we come in a position of power and the Zionists come and offer us this sum of money,
@yamanitruthOr when we find this lustful event that will be used against us, we need to have a solid spiritual foundation that will prevent us from doing that. And the common enemy, according to our belief, what was sent down to earth weren't just humans. It wasn't just mankind. There is another creation that was sent down to earth, and it is jinkind.
@yamanitruthIt is often referred to in the West as spirits, sometimes demons, sometimes Satan. But in Islamic theology, it is jinn kind. They are an invisible creation that can see us from a dimension where we can't see them. This creation, they can speak to us and influence us. They just spread thoughts. Thank you very much.
@joann_marieThank you so much, Mohammed. All right, Rabbi, go for it.
@malleusigHi, I was going to say a little bit about how I feel about this, but it sounds like you're winding down the space, right? Correct, yeah. We're trying to get to the last couple of speakers, yep. Okay, then I'm going to skip because my comments are usually controversial on this topic. So let's go to truth and then we can wind it down because I don't want to start a whole other discussion.
@malleusigNow I'm even more interested in what you're going to say, but let's go to truth.
@truthtellerftmYeah, kind of tickled my fancy there too, Rabbi. Shame on you.
@joann_marieIt was such a spicy space, Rabbi. You missed it. Yeah.
@malleusigI know, I know. I always come into the tail end of these things. The best spaces, I always come in like the tail end or like I see the recording like, damn it, you know, so I'm sorry, guys.
@truthtellerftmBut first, I want to thank you, JoAnn and Dr. Strange for hosting what some might deem a controversial space. Why are we talking about this? Let's look at the numbers. Look, Muslims are, what, 1.2%, 1.3% of the American population. Whether you like them, hate them, whatnot, a very small percentage. We don't control, really, the levers of power.
@truthtellerftmI think, for the most part, they do their best to integrate, assimilate, mind their own business. And I believe those in charge, Jewish supremacists in charge, see this and see an opportunity that they don't necessarily do the best job of defending themselves enough and speak up more and actually Thank you very much.
@truthtellerftmYou can even learn from other cultures, religions, and add to your own life. I mean, that's the whole point of what's happening throughout civilizations. People traded, people traveled, and we learn from other cultures, and you adopt that within your daily lives. You know, people always try to focus on the negative a lot.
@truthtellerftmYou may not like, for instance, the way they pray, the language they speak, or some of the customs, and sometimes you may not be fully educated on why they do certain things. Better to take the time to learn than just live by stereotypes. Unfortunately, we live in a society and a culture of convenience where although information is so readily accessible, it still takes time to go out and access it, understand it, and not necessarily rely on a third party to teach you.
@truthtellerftmAnd then internalize it properly so that you don't feel like you're just so easily even compromised or just predisposed towards changing your mind too easily. Stand on certain facts. Don't compromise on morality, etc. Don't... Just agree with what you're told right away. Be skeptical more, question more, and be more curious.
@truthtellerftmEducating people and creating more of an awareness starts with having an open mind. A lot of people don't have it because they already come in indoctrinated with preconceived notions of what they already think. So just continue to be a student on a journey with whatever it is your endeavors are, whether it's with history, the sociological aspects, what we're learning about different cultures, religions, and all the rest, even technology.
@truthtellerftmand obviously have a lot of mistrust when it comes to the powers that be because they certainly don't seek to unite because if they did, it would come at too much of a cost to them. They'd have to share all the wealth they've accumulated and they don't want to do that. So they don't want to see unity. They love division because through division, they're able to rule as a minority over majority.
@truthtellerftmSo rather than constantly be skeptical about your neighbor who, you know, I might have distinct smells from the kitchen or, you know, might speak a different language, be a little more curious and learn And it's interesting because there's a line, somebody just posted this screenshot, the line from the Hadith, which they shared saying that this is inevitable, this idea of a unification in some effort, not permanently, but against the common enemy.
Ian MalcolmAnd so it reads, I heard the messenger of Allah say, you will make a secure peace with the Byzantines. Then you and they will fight an enemy behind you and you will be victorious and be safe. Okay, so far so good. You will then return to a meadow with mounds and one of the Christians will raise the cross and say, the cross has conquered.
Ian MalcolmOne of the Muslims will become angry and smash it and the Byzantines will act treacherously. For a moment there reading, I was like, oh, this seems like a good thing. Dr. Strange, I got to ask, the last little bit, it took a pretty big U-turn there. I'm curious how you would interpret that and what this individual, because again, they gleefully shared it, saying this is going to happen and be a good thing.
Ian MalcolmBut then I got to the end of the line and was like, ah, that's not so great.
@submission2tI know, I'm glad you mentioned that. When it comes to, so, The modus operandi of how Muslims need to work with Christians is very straightforward in the Quran, right? It says that if you're even going to speak with them or debate with them, do it in the best way. Like, don't be denigrating, don't put them down. And this is a verse in the Quran, right?
@submission2tAnd that they're considered the people of the book. You're supposed to show respect. So the modus operandi... That is mentioned in the Quran and Hadith is very specific. Now, when it comes to prophecies of what will happen in the future, that's something totally different. The prophecies don't dictate my interaction with my fellow Christians.
@submission2tThe Quran is very specific as to how I need to interact. I'm not allowed to ever denigrate even the cross. For more information, visit www.fema.org
@submission2tEspecially when it comes to hadith, I don't know that specific hadith. I know that there is something about Christians and Muslims joining hands in the future at some point, but I don't know the specifics of it. And then the hadith has different grades, meaning some are considered authentic, others are not, others, they're different levels.
@submission2tSo you can't necessarily rely just on one hadith. You need to look at the totality.
Ian MalcolmThank you very much.
Ian MalcolmMore to the present and the dynamics that we're in and what they mean for the greater good because for a while it felt like we were meandering down and it was good to get some of the history from you, Dr. Strange, but it allowed us to get really just inundated with some of the historical baggage that obviously makes this a more difficult sell to your everyday person, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd I can appreciate that there's a whole lot of individuals, especially those living in the West, Living Under, let's call it Western media, and we know who controls that, that have pushed all of these anti-Muslim sentiments for a long, long time. Dr. Strange, you were bringing up Homeland, some of these other shows. All of this, the reason that they popularized these ideas is to get people ready for battle or animus or hate or all those other things.
Ian MalcolmThis is all part of the game that they play. And so we do need to kind of take a breath.
Ian MalcolmAgain, this is not everybody's position up here, but it's my thought that we can be far more effective united than we can trying to oppose this monstrous machine that basically owns everything while we're also fighting with one another. We can agree to disagree about what the ideal future looks like. We can mutually respect that when we get past the current hurdle that we're going to go our own ways in certain ways.
Ian MalcolmMaybe we'll be intermingled in others. But the reality is if we don't, For those people that find this distasteful because they don't like the idea of having any merger ever with the other. If the Jewish supremacists win, all you're going to know is the other. And your children will probably not even know the thing that you consider the you.
Ian MalcolmAll they will know is the other. Because their whole world will be clergyfied down to nothing. So either we recognize the state of the state and we do what we can to pragmatically overcome it, or we lose. And the loss is clearly going to be far worse.
Ian Malcolmfor President.
Ian MalcolmWell, then the white guy that could be aligning with everybody against the Jewish supremacist is telling you to hate the other because he is sponsored by the Jewish supremacist. And it's the same thing in the black community, all those other groups. They are going to the migrants and they are saying you should hate the nationals, right?
Ian MalcolmThe people that have been there, the heritage, whatever you want to call them. They go to every one of these groups and make you hate the others. We are doing the exact opposite. We are saying open arms to anybody and everybody, even Jew and Gentile that will stand up against Jewish supremacy because the inverse, If we don't, is the destruction of everything, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd that seems like a pretty bad ending to the story for everybody. And so I'm going to continue taking that bet. But I do appreciate that different people came up. They shared different positions. Isn't it curious, though, that the ones that were most ardently against the idea of unifying for a common cause, that it was also the people that didn't seem to be able to critique Jewish supremacy or critique the genocide of the Palestinians or critique dot, dot, dot.
Ian MalcolmIsn't that weird? Almost like they're coming in to try and subvert the conversation, try and disrupt the suggestion that we could do this. So that should tell us that this is the thing that they fear. And again, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs from Israel has announced such. All of these big influencers are clearly doing such.
Ian MalcolmAnd so we just need to rise above and use our mind and not the emotions that were force-fed from all the digital screens that we interact with. So that being said, I do know a couple things. We're actually going to do two musical outros. Normally, we just do one. We do have one that we are going to play that is, what is it?
Ian MalcolmIt's hot off the press, I think is how they would say that, right? This is right out of the factory, into the fire that is this space. And so, JoAnn, if you were able to load that up, I would love on behalf of the incomparable Dr. Rectenwald, who is running ASAPAC. to play his latest little musical jingle. Then we'll go to Mr.
Ian MalcolmTruth Teller to get his thoughts on all of this. We'll come back to Dr. Strange. We'll go to you for announcements on the upcoming space for the week. And then we'll play our little musical outro from the one and only Joey Goode.
Speaker 1The Message Connects
Speaker 1The night was done, mashing for president, rising with the sun He asked if they wanted him back in the race They answered with thunder for a higher place From the primary law to the call of the land He stood alone, still held by the people's hands They bought the seat with the millions and might But the message is moving, so what a bigger fight They thought the money would end the fight They thought the noise would kill the light But the ones who checked, every
Ian MalcolmAll right, and that is from Dr. Rectenwald. We will put that up into the nest. If you do not follow ASAPAC and all the wonderful work that they are doing, certainly put that on your to-do list, add them to your queue. I see Dr. Rectenwald up. Speaking of, and what we'll do, just because I know he's short on time, is to go to Dr.
Ian MalcolmStrange. I think he wanted to make his closing remarks now because he's got to jump off. So why don't we go to Dr. Strange really quickly for his kind of wrap-up summarization of the space. Then we will check in. I do see we've also got Lebanon with his hand up, but we'll go through a couple more voices here before we wrap up the space.
Ian MalcolmBut go for it, Dr. Strange.
@submission2tThank you, Ian. I appreciate it. Thank you so much for hosting the space. It requires a lot of courage these days to actually host these spaces and talk about these sensitive topics because they've been made radioactive. Sadly enough, the average American is bombarded on social media and mainstream media for decades with fear, hate, and anger of Muslims and Islam.
@submission2tAnd know full well that the weapon of choice of Satan is fear, hate, and anger. And it's manufactured. And if we give into it, we give up our agency, discernment, and freedom. Someone else will own us and will drive us every which way they want and we become their bitch. So we can discuss and quarrel about historical incidents ad nauseam and be stuck in 13th century and never get past it, or we can chalk a new path.
@submission2tWe don't have to cling on to what happened 1300 years ago or 700 years ago. We can focus on how we can make our future better. We're not constrained by what happened in the past to prevent us from chalking a better future. If you want to focus on history, oftentimes people give it a binary view of Christian versus Muslim, when in reality there was a lot of Christian on Christian.
@submission2tYou can easily make the case that there were more Christians killed by other Christians than Muslims, for that matter. And there's a lot of Muslims on Muslims. Thanks. And there's Muslims on Muslim war. So the humanity has been plagued with bloodshed from the beginning. That being said, what are areas that we can align to chalk a better future?
@submission2tOne, first and foremost, I think it's absolutely critical, and this is what everybody's been saying, education. Don't fall for the propaganda and the psyop. Have discernment. Educate yourself. If you hear anything about Christianity, go ask a credible Christian to explain it to you or read the Bible. Thank you very much.
@submission2tThank you very much.
@submission2tWhich will lead to more refugees, which will come into Europe and the U.S. Now, that's one. Education is key. Understanding each other better is very important. The other one is morality. We can align on justice, on truth. And I welcome anyone to join in, Christian, Muslim, Jew or anybody else. If you align, if you call it a genocide, I support you.
@submission2tAnd this is exactly what Ian's been pushing out all this time. Standing up against immorality and taking care of fellow Americans. We look at the cost of living, the healthcare cost, the cost of living that's preventing Americans from starting a family, which is screwing our population, which leads to the billionaires or the corporations turning around and bringing more H-1B visas, which is a horrible way of basically
@submission2tDecimating American society from within. Now, I can go on, but I think morality, when it comes to degeneracy, when it comes to pornography, when it comes to all the immoralities, gambling, everything that we have a shared value system that we can stand up against. Last but not least, economics. There are 56 Muslim majority countries.
@submission2twhich are rich in natural resources and constitute about 2 billion consumers. Do you want them to go buy Chinese smartphones, EVs, machinery, software, 5G networks, pharmaceutical weapons, and a slew of other resources, goods, services? Or do you want them to buy US? Because if we do, it's a win-win, right? Either they'll go buy it from the Chinese or they can buy it from us.
@submission2tIf they buy it from us, We can benefit from it. We can leverage, we can invest in the natural resources that they have. Right now American goods are being boycotted because of our alliance with Israel. People are gravitating more towards China because we are hated globally because we have unconditional support for Israel.
@submission2tAnd a land with The verse of the Quran that says do not argue with the people of the book referring to Christians except in the best way. And it says we believe in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is one and to him we submit. Now, people may disagree with it, but it's a verse of the Quran that teaches us on how to engage with our fellow Christian brethren and sisters.
@submission2tSo with that said, thank you all for coming. I appreciate you joining in. I appreciate Ian and JoAnn for hosting this. I can't thank you enough. I think we need more of this conversation because if we don't discuss these topics, somebody else will hijack it and take it to some dark place, which will be used again to pit Christians against Muslims in the forever wars.
@submission2tAnd we can't afford it anymore. Our nation can't afford it. Our youth cannot afford it. We need to get out of this cycle. Again, you don't have to like anyone. Simple thing you could do is just say no to wars. I'll end there. Thank you so much for giving me the mic. Have a blessed night, everyone. And thank you again for hosting this.
Ian MalcolmAttention to a couple things. So first and foremost, I love what Dr. Strange just said, that idea that we need to have these conversations or otherwise they will get hijacked by other voices. I think that's exactly correct. And we see at every turn that that is what has happened historically. Whenever there's been a movement, and in the past you could say that it was perhaps, ironically, with the KKK, you could say that in more modern terms it was personified via things like American History X.
Ian MalcolmAnd what I mean by that is the idea of nationalism, of essentially white Europeans trying to take ownership and have some control over the reigns of the United States and its direction, it was always presented as something that has to be built in hate, which it doesn't. You can love your country, your nation, and want to preserve it.
Ian MalcolmIt doesn't mean that you hate other people. It's no different than locking the door of your car or your home or saying that you want your children to go to a school that's safe. That's a perfectly reasonable thing. Those that are suggesting that the borders, that they have to be open or that you're not out for the, let's say, the interest of all mankind is ludicrous because who might be coming across the border?
Ian MalcolmWell, it could be criminals. It could be drug dealers. It could be all kinds of things. There's no onus upon the white Western land to just say, okay, anybody can come here. It's crazy. And similarly, we need to recognize that the same way that message was perverted, that anybody focused on kind of white Christian people
Ian MalcolmThank you very much.
Ian MalcolmI always try to check through the DMs when people send me things. I like to be respectful and to view them and respond as best I can. Somebody sent me a post, and I just put this up into the nest so everybody can see it. I really can't believe this. The Hillel Fund, okay, this is a individual. His handle says, proud Zionist Jew.
Ian MalcolmGlobal speakers, oh, wow, right? Dad times five, banned from Australia. We will dance, all these kind of things, right? This is what is wild about the world is that you do have individuals That are out there. And in this case, we can laugh about some of these things, I suppose. But the ridiculousness that in the largest five tech companies, that there's been all this mass investment into Israel.
Ian MalcolmWe've seen R&D centers that have been built for Nvidia. We know about all the extra work that Apple has been doing, right? All of these things. As we look into this, we recognize that there's kind of details everywhere around us. Thank you very much.
Ian MalcolmThank you for being here, for being part of this conversation. I want to thank everybody that was listening in.
Ian MalcolmAnd as we do that, I want to make sure that we get to the rest of these hands. I do want to give a big welcome to Dr. Michael Rectenwald. I think he does some wonderful, wonderful work with Azapak. He also made that incredible song that we just listened to. So we'll go to Dr. Rectenwald. We'll check in with Mr. Lebanon, who came up on the handle.
Ian MalcolmWe will go to Truth Teller for his final thoughts on this subject. And then we will go over to Miss JoAnn.
@rectheregimeHey, good to see you all. Good to see you, Ian, JoAnn, Dr. Strange, Mandy. Inimitable Truth Teller
@rectheregimeThe best way to refurbish Israel's image is anti-Muslim rhetoric.
@rectheregimeAnd so we got to be very conscious of all these psyops that they're running. But yeah, we're, as far as the American front, you know, I think, you know, we have to continue to struggle against this domestic Zionism as well as the foreign extortion that they're undertaking on us. So all of this is vital stuff. And this division, they're trying to
@rectheregimeSo, between Christians and Muslims is, of course, something they've told us about. This is not something new. They've told us they do this. So, you know, it's got to take them at their word at some point. Anyway, good to be here again.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely, Dr. Rectenwald. Lovely to have you in here. Let's go to Mr. Lebanon, and then we'll go up to Mr. Truthteller.
Speaker 18Thanks a lot, guys. This topic is extremely close to home for me, and I'm going to try to make it brief, but I honestly think what I'm about to say is extremely relevant and important, and I'm really glad that I have the opportunity to share this with you guys. So, basically, the playbook that they ran on the society of Lebanon to initiate the Lebanese civil war, I believe, and I've said this for years, is the exact playbook that they want to run on the world at large.
Speaker 18It was very effective.
Speaker 18Basically some sort of jihad type thing. And so you were either with them or with them. And that's how they tried to divide the entire society. That you had to choose option A, option B. It divided the society completely. Except for one group. Which by coincidence happened to be the group that my family was in at that time.
Speaker 18The only counter to that is... The counter to that is not... To buy into their hatred and dichotomy, of course. The counter to that is to rise above, choose option A or option B. The counter to that is Muslim-Christian unity against Zionism. And that is precisely the ideology of the nationalist party of Lebanon and Syria of that time, which has largely been basically, in a sense, extinguished by the continued and
Speaker 18Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 18Preparing the population and teaching the population of it to do a Christian-Muslim alliance against Zionism before there even was a state of Israel. We're talking in the 30s. He was so ahead of the curve. The guy's an absolute genius, and I highly recommend looking at any of his quotes teaching about nationalism. And so when I say the Sunni mainline guys coming out of Saudi Arabia versus the Christian forces coming out of the Vatican, well...
Speaker 18Here's the crazy thing about it. If you look at France, France is a client state, a puppet state under the sphere of influence of the Vatican. France is a Catholic state. And these Muslims, for the most part, are taking their ideology and orders from the custodian of the holy site, which is the House of El Saud, who is obviously a client of the West who established the petrodollar.
Speaker 18So again, both of these sides that are supposedly fighting in France, The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee
Speaker 18And the guys who are these kind of like, you know, jihadis would tell Christians, are you Muslim? And the word Muslim really just means to submit to God. And so these hardline religious Muslims would tell somebody, are you Muslim? If you say, no, I'm not Muslim, what does that mean? Well, you just said, no, I don't submit to God.
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Speaker 18That doesn't sound good in Arabic, right? You're playing into this. So a hardline Muslim guy is going to interpret that, that you are in rebellion to God's law. And so the correct response to them is to say, we follow God's law as revealed through Jesus and the Bible, that we are in submission to God's law and in accordance with God's law.
Speaker 18And we want to follow God's commands and be in harmony with the will of God. So that is how to counter their psychological operation. If you even talk to a hardline Wahhabi ISIS guy and you even told him, no, I am Muslim, I'm Muslim on the Injil, you just wrapped his mind in a pretzel because he has to accept that the Injil is a divine revelation.
Speaker 18And so it's very complicated to deal with these guys. They've been operating through Islam since the House of Al Saud and the Wahhabi version of Islam. And it already came out. It's all over X going viral that, you know, the establishment of that government is obviously a Western backed project. So I believe they're going to run this project on everyone the same way they ran it on the Lebanese society.
Speaker 18They're going to do it to everyone. And you're absolutely right. You're on the money that the counter to this is a Christian Muslim alliance against Zionism. That is what they fear the most. And
Speaker 18Thank you for everything you all do. And spreading love is the counter to hate at the end of the day, to put it simply.
Ian MalcolmI love that, Lebanon. And we will have to, if you'd be interested, I know we've done a couple spaces on the geographic area and obviously did the conversation with Raed. But if you'd like to do one on that, it's a microcosm for the world. Thank you very much.
Ian MalcolmAnd some of the spaces that I really think that when it comes to history, there's Truth Teller, there's Sam Parker. He's another one that does wonderful deep dives into certain historical events. But Truth Teller, man, he absolutely crushes it. So very, very, very excited for that. Why don't we go to him for some parting words?
@truthtellerftmYeah, first off, yeah, thank you again to you, to JoAnn and Dr. Strange earlier for hosting this space. You know, I do a lot of listening myself. It's good to hear the other views. And yeah, there were times when it could get toxic and divisive. But even then, it gives you something to reflect on. You look into more topics, and it adds to your basic knowledge.
@truthtellerftmBut you do realize that some people do come in here in bad faith, and they don't come to argue in good faith. So that you also have to quickly identify and just park aside, not let it impact your cool, calm composure. But look, there's real-life examples of where this unity has worked. It's currently happening right now in Russia, having to deal with the proxy war in Ukraine.
@truthtellerftmYou've got the Muslims in Chechnya and Dagestan that are actively serving in the front lines, along with the Orthodox Christians that are fighting against the Jewish supremacy in Ukraine. And the unfortunate thing is though that there aren't really Jews fighting with Ukraine. They've recruited and also taken in mercenaries from all around the world.
@truthtellerftmBasically anybody with a pulse at this point, even women, pregnant women, teenagers, they just don't care.
@truthtellerftmof Chechnyans who were actively committing acts of terrorism for 10 years in and around 95 when Russia was still controlled by a bunch of Jewish oligarchs. You know, they used these al-Qaeda operatives. They were quite active in the 1990s. They were also in Chechnya committing acts of terrorism. They were doing bombings.
@truthtellerftmAnd Russia was weak. You know, it was under a drunk Boris Yeltsin. He didn't have control of his country. And this lasted through to 2005. But what did Putin do? Did he just, what, wipe them all out, destroy them, evict them? I mean, those Muslims have been there for centuries. They were part of the country, but there was an element of them that turned against the country.
@truthtellerftmWell, he ended up making peace with their leadership. There was a lot of blood that was shed, of course. Thousands ended up having to die unnecessarily. It was a civil war. They made peace, and now if you go to any one of our visits, Grozny and Chechnya, it's one of the most beautiful cities there, very well developed.
@truthtellerftmIt was a war zone before. So there is hope at the end of the tunnel for those who think that, oh, Muslims and Christians can never get along. Well, look at Russia right now. They're aligned with the same interest in trying to liberate the country and deal with the problem that's Israeli-Jewish supremacy right next door at their borders, which they didn't want to have to deal with, but they realized they had a common enemy.
@truthtellerftmAnd in terms of how they're structured, yeah, they have like independent oblasts or semi-autonomous, right, between Dagestan and Chechnya.
@truthtellerftmSo there's work to be done, but again, it's not going to be easy because there's distrust perhaps on some sides and also misinformation. So I just always advise people to keep learning about that, which perhaps instills a fear in you and a phobia. Well, what's this really about? Is it a real boogeyman out there that's out to get me?
@truthtellerftmOr is this just instilled fear by these higher-ups that want to scare me to say, hey, if we don't fight them over here, over there, you know, in the Middle East, we're going to have to fight them on the home soil. Thank you so much for having me.
@truthtellerftmThe Truth Source, and most of the subversion. And they want to keep it that way because it keeps people distracted, sidetracked, and not advancing spiritually, even financially, professionally, because they just want to keep people chasing their tail without any real hopes for advancement. And I just put this up yesterday that now you've got the ratio of what the boomers above 75 control in terms of assets versus both.
@truthtellerftmGen Millennials and Gen Z at 15 to 1. It's never been that high before. And the prospects do not look good for Gen Z Millennials. Something has to change. And the powers that be don't want it to change because they, again, continue to extract assets from whatever Gen Z Millennials have to transfer it over to the ultra wealthy.
@truthtellerftmSo again, you either wake up now or realize that there's something wrong or... This trend will carry on. It wasn't like this before. It was only about three, four to one. Now it's ridiculously skewed one way. So too much to lose, to be inactive, to not be conscious and alert. And really a lot to gain by just being better informed and realizing these fears that might have overtaken your mind for a long time really are based on false information.
@truthtellerftmWhat you've heard, I continue to learn more about. Both Christianity and Islam, and you can take from both, learn from both, become a better person overall. Rather than, again, have to demonize one or the other, but then realize that the Jews don't want any type of unity. They love division, sowing it both religiously, of course, socially, politically, you name it, any which way they can, so they can benefit financially.
@truthtellerftmThat's the obvious trend you see here, and they've done this everywhere they've been. But yeah, thanks again for hosting the space. You should definitely continue to do more of them. I welcome those that have diverging views because they give me new ways to arm myself with information, ways to look at things I hadn't seen.
@truthtellerftmSo I don't fear the other side coming up with whatever points of view they have, so long as it's good faith. Thanks again for hosting.
Ian MalcolmVery well stated, and I love that idea. And Truth has always been saying this for as long as I've been doing Spaces with him. I think three or maybe going on. Yeah, something like three or four years at this point. And he's always said that he's a student of knowledge and always interested in just acquiring more, learning more, and is more of a red man than just about anybody that I've come across.
Ian MalcolmAnd so that idea of the challenging views, certainly bring them in. It's always helpful to have them. I think it refines some of our understandings. And actually, I learned something today on the Nicholas piece. I did not know... The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee
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Ian MalcolmSo it's almost like perhaps they were sending in infiltrators to try and either disrupt the conversation or to push us off of this suggestion. So maybe in that we can recognize that, well, maybe we're on to something. And I think that we are, because every single day, every week, every month, every year, these conversations have gotten bigger and bigger and bigger, not because of me, although I would say it has a lot to do with TruthTeller and the unbelievable amount of information that he has, and he is here.
Ian MalcolmSo lifting up that audience to some extent. But it's also because there is a growing audience of people that are thirsty for the truth. They're trying to understand the upside-down world that we live in. And the fact of the matter is, like TruthTeller was just very poignantly pointing to, we live in a world where the current generation that are coming up into this, those that right now are in high school or college, they basically have no opportunity in the future if we do not course correct.
Ian MalcolmWell, maybe it comes to willingness and ability to look down deep inside and to say, maybe I want something more. Maybe I'm willing to call out the horrors and the atrocities that we witness. Maybe I'm willing to call out what's going on in Gaza. And maybe I'm willing to do it because, well, if there's not a job for me to have, I guess what leverage do they have over me if they say I'm these hateful things, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd so almost in a sense, the worse things get, the more people are willing to look for a solution. Now, I'm not... An accelerationist, for anybody not familiar with the term, the idea that if things get so bad, well, then we will have some kind of something that follows. I don't want that, right? I really advocate against it.
Ian MalcolmI try to bring awareness and attention to these issues so that we can all align together. We can speak up with our voices intelligently. And in doing so, maybe we can bring about and force function a change without violence, without the R word, as they would say. The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee
Ian MalcolmJoAnn, or even Truth Teller might have said, but rather because all of us are coming together so that we can all appreciate and support what one another are saying, the good, the bad, the ugly, and even the areas of contention. So we're going to continue doing this as best we can. We've got a whole bunch of additional conversations this week, some of which, let's say, are going to be more contentious than others.
Ian MalcolmSo why don't we go to Miss JoAnn for both an overview of those spaces, then we'll go to Mandy for a closing prayer, and then we will go back to JoAnn for some musical outro.
@joann_marieIt was such an amazing space, Ian. Thank you so much for hosting, Dr. Strange for co-hosting, and Truth, Mandy, Levan and John, Uncle Puck, everyone, guys, it was just absolutely brilliant, and I'm so happy more people are waking up to what's happening in the world. So, amazing, amazing space. All right, on Monday, we have Hollywood with Isaiah Washington.
@joann_marieI think I said it correctly. I was literally practicing how to say it. And he's the actor from Grey's Anatomy, and he's absolutely And then on Tuesday, we have Building Tomorrows with TST Radio. On Wednesday, we have what the Bible actually says about the spiritual world with History Media. On Thursday, we have Prefrontal Cortex and Noticing with Amiru.
@joann_marieAnd then we have all of October, November and December full already. So very happy. Dad is here. Dad, how are you?
@nietzsche258918How are you doing?
@joann_marieGood, how's mom?
Ian MalcolmDoing quite well. For everyone not aware, JoAnn lovingly refers to the incomparable Mr. David Nietzsche as dad. They are not actually related. Just want to clear that up for anybody. But, so, Mr. Nietzsche, I've got to ask you because we're going to wind everything up.
Speaker 4You missed such an amazing space, David. Sorry.
Ian MalcolmNo, well, and so, David, it was. We went over everything. The highs, the lows. We talked about the history. The Sage, Digital spaces, Dr. Atousa Mahdavi, Prophet Daniel Belteshazzar, VeritasX, Bricius M. Lipscombus, Dan Bilzerian for President, Akunjee
Ian MalcolmBut that that might be the only way to go about it. And it was a very interesting space. And you can imagine the people that, ironically, David, the people that said, no, that's a terrible idea. We would then ask them, is it a genocide in Gaza? They'd be like, no. You're like, oh, wow. I wonder what these two things have in common.
Ian MalcolmSo, David, I'm curious before we wrap up for some of your thoughts and sentiments on this idea of Christianity and Islam and perhaps everybody, regardless of religion. Coming together to stand in opposition of this machine.
@nietzsche258918Well, I would look at it a different way. I would say, just imagine if someone had secretly implanted within you the capacity to hate. And then we'd figured out a way within each person to extract that from your body and you could no longer hate anymore. The people that would be most sad to see the power of controlling you through your own hatred
@nietzsche258918Human solidarity is on the rise. We no longer think that it's between Muslim and Christian or blue collar and white collar. We no longer care what color shirt you wear, as George Carlin likes to say. We no longer think it's about anything other than Jewish supremacists dividing and conquering us. And how do they do that?
@nietzsche258918By making us hate one another. If you can just, I know it sounds like a cliche, but never before has it been so true.
@nietzsche258918It's inside of you. Take it out of you. Throw it away. Don't hate your Muslim brother. Don't hate your Christian brother or sister. And what do they have left? Their numbers are infinitesimally small. If they can't make you hate another, then they lose. They have no power. That is their power. So I would look at it through that lens, my friend.
Ian MalcolmSo beautifully said, David. And that is why the incomparable Mr. Nietzsche is dad. The lovely Mrs. Nietzsche who makes the finest meals. I can't say from my taste buds, but I can tell you based on the optics of them. They always look absolutely beautiful. A man of both passion, of intellect, of courage. All that is good, I think, is within Mr. David Nietzsche.
Ian MalcolmHe's one of my absolute favorites on this entire platform. So please give him a follow if you have not already. Give Uncle Buck a follow, Mandy, Truth Teller, JoAnn, everybody else that came up, if you can. Support them every way that you can. A lot of these people out here, they don't have any kind of, let's say, affiliation with any sponsorships, any monetization, any of the anything.
Ian MalcolmThey are here. David, I certainly have. I've had some of my most enjoyable conversations between him, TruthTeller, JoAnn, everybody that is up here. So I want to give a lot of love to all of you wherever you are in the world. Certainly, God bless. Godspeed. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, wherever you might be in the world.
Ian MalcolmWith that being said, JoAnn walked through some of those wonderful spaces that we've got coming up this week. I am very excited. If you would have told me Five years ago.
Ian MalcolmAnd some, in this case, literal movie stars, right? We're going to be talking with Isaiah Washington, who was on the number one television program, I think, for something like five to ten years on Grey's Anatomy, right? And so it's pretty wild. We're going to get the ins and outs of Holly Weird, as he has called it. We're going to be talking all about it.
Ian MalcolmA man who is certainly aware of Jewish supremacy, speaks out against it very directly. And for what it's worth, I think this is actually an interesting piece. Some of those people in the space, including Rabbi Malice, if he's still here, will remember that Isaiah and I went back and forth on a whole bunch of issues in the past because we would talk about some of the, let's say, the ideas around race realism, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd what might cause that? Is there perhaps genetics at play with some of the criminality that we see amongst a certain community in the United States, right? We disagreed with one another. We had heated words. And yet here we are in this space that we're going to host. Dr. Atousa Mahdavi,
Ian MalcolmThank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThank you, Ian, and what a wonderful space, and I always love hearing from David Nietzsche. Thank you for saying those words. It closes out the space really well. All right, I've got a prayer for us, and I put a little extra part in there about loving our neighbor, so let's go.
@rabbimandyxFather, you have not given us a spirit of fear. You have given us power, love, and a sound mind. So we refuse to shrink. We refuse to stay silent. We refuse to walk in compromise. Do not let us conform to the pattern of this world. Transform us by the renewing of our minds. Make us strong and courageous. Give us boldness to stand for the truth without apology, to speak clearly when others are afraid.
@rabbimandyxTo expose the works of darkness, not in anger, but in the light of your presence. Let what is hidden be brought into the open. Let the light of Christ shine through us so brightly that the darkness loses its grip. Help us love our neighbors as ourselves, even those who reject you. Let us show them genuine kindness and patience as Jesus commanded.
@rabbimandyxGive us the grace to be both loving and uncompromising. Unite us with every brother and sister who is also bringing light. Bind us together as one. Help us not to give up meeting together but to encourage one another and all the more as the days grow darker. Make us as a people who stir up one another, who stand side by side, who refuse to forsake the fight for what is good and true.
@rabbimandyxWhere we gather, let courage rise. Where we speak, let truth prevail. Where we move, let evil be exposed in the light of Jesus' advance. We are not victims. We are not powerless. We are children of light. Thank you for joining us today.
@rabbimandyxThat was absolutely beautiful, Mandy. Thank you. All right. We have What You're Gonna Do About It by Joey Goode.
@joann_marieAnd this is how it sounds.
Speaker 19Where did it all go wrong? The demonic cult decided to enslave humanity under the doctrine of Lucifer. And because they were continually banished from such evil, they adopted secret protocols to lie, infiltrate, and destroy their opposition from within. They use Babylonian money magic to compose usury system under their control and systematically seize control of all of
Speaker 19Religion, Psychology and even law were hijacked to reflect their version of reality and the people were distracted, dumbed down and taught to swallow a system of material worship, division and oppression where war, poverty and disease would be intentionally used to make the people increasingly peaceful.
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Ian MalcolmAll of you come through when you can, and I look forward to expanding these conversations each and every day. The last little thing that I would promise is that as we do, it doesn't matter how big these rooms get, every single person that is in them, whether you're listening, you're putting commentary on the Purple Pill, you're coming up and you're speaking, you're sharing it, you're mentioning the ideas to your friends offline, whatever piece of the puzzle that you are doing, no matter how big these conversations are, even with, like we said, Isaiah Washington, a literal Hollywood star,
Ian MalcolmRight, no matter how big the conversations get, the most important piece is Y-O-U. Every single person that is in here. So lots of love to absolutely all of you that were part of this. I look forward to the additional conversations this week. We are going to win. We are going to defeat Jewish supremacy. And the most important piece of that puzzle is bringing attention and awareness to these issues to anybody that'll listen.
Ian MalcolmAnd so whether you're Jew, Gentile, Christian, Muslim, Black, White, As Michael Jackson said yesterday, it doesn't matter if you're black or white. Whatever you are, if you're willing to talk about these issues, I look forward to speaking about them with you. So lots of love to everybody. We will see you later. If you do, I think Mr. Truthteller might be opening a space in a couple hours.
Ian MalcolmIf so, I will look forward to listening in. Otherwise, we will see you guys in the space tomorrow. So lots of love.
