Held here entire — 618 passages across 18 chapters, set down from the first word to the last. The colour shifts with the film’s own mood as each chapter plays.
- 0:00quiet, reflectiveTPUSA's Early DaysArtifex Memor recounts his initial involvement with Turning Point USA, from grassroots activism to early internships.
- 30:08weathered, resignedCharlie Kirk's VisionArtifex describes Charlie Kirk's early political vision and the initial, more grassroots nature of TPUSA.
- 37:12disillusionedTPUSA's Growth & EvolutionArtifex details TPUSA's rapid growth, the move to Phoenix, and the shift from a grassroots movement to a larger organization.
- 1:00:00guarded, evenInternal Shifts at TPUSAArtifex discusses the changing internal culture at TPUSA, including perceived limitations on free thought and the rise of new influential figures.
- 1:15:00measured, soberCharlie Kirk's Shifting ViewsArtifex observes Charlie Kirk's evolving stance on issues like Israel and his growing skepticism towards established narratives.
- 1:23:20smouldering, restlessQuestioning Charlie's DeathArtifex passionately questions the official narrative surrounding Charlie Kirk's death, highlighting inconsistencies and potential motives.
- 1:38:23hard, unyieldingInfluence of New FiguresArtifex explores the impact of figures like Erica Kirk and Mikey McCoy on Charlie Kirk and the direction of TPUSA.
- 1:45:00grave, forebodingTPUSA's Zionist ConnectionsArtifex discusses the strong Zionist influence within TPUSA from its early days, including trips to Israel and pro-Israel content.
- 1:56:40bleak, drainedThe Uniparty and TPUSAA speaker argues that American politics is controlled by a 'uniparty' and that TPUSA was used to further this agenda.
- 2:10:00disillusionedTyler Boyer's InfluenceArtifex details Tyler Boyer's significant control over staffing and direction within TPUSA, shaping careers and narratives.
- 2:20:00dry, matter-of-factTPUSA's Financial OperationsArtifex touches on the financial aspects of TPUSA, including donor influence and the organization's 501(c)(3) status.
- 2:30:00sombre, searchingThe Israel QuestionArtifex explains his personal journey from being a Zionist to questioning Israel's influence, driven by TPUSA's evolving stance.
- 2:40:00grim, scorchedCharlie's Legacy and TrumpSpeakers discuss Charlie Kirk's unique role in influencing Donald Trump and holding back neoconservative agendas.
- 2:50:00raw, woundedThe Gaza NarrativeThe conversation shifts to the Gaza conflict, with speakers questioning the media's portrayal and the lack of critical discussion.
- 3:00:00grim, scorchedIsrael's Role in US PolicyArtifex and others challenge the narrative of Israel as a beneficial ally, citing historical events and financial costs to the US.
- 3:10:00unsettlingCritique of Jewish SupremacyA speaker introduces the concept of Jewish supremacy and its historical impact on civilizations, leading to a heated debate.
- 3:20:00urgent, incendiaryPornography Industry ControlThe discussion delves into the alleged control of the pornography industry by a specific group, sparking further controversy.
- 3:30:00charged, alertMoving Forward with TruthArtifex and other speakers emphasize the importance of seeking truth, critical thinking, and spiritual discernment in navigating complex political landscapes.
The Transcript
A voice is named only when we can verify it — by voiceprint, an @handle present in the room, or the Space’s own title. Anyone we can’t confirm stays “Speaker,” on purpose.
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memor
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Ian MalcolmThere's not really any actual good video that clearly shows him there. There's grainy video. There's some video that people are suggesting might not even be him, right? But the one opportunity where the officer approached one of the key pieces of evidence, it just so happens that before he got to the top of the roof to go and get that item, the screwdriver, ah, the battery on my body camera just happened to die, guys.
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Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
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Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Ian MalcolmWhat might have led up to that moment before Charlie Kirk's death? And so without further ado, I'm very excited. I see that we've got Artifex that's up here. He is directly aligned with or was aligned with and is going to give us that exact walkthrough and unpack kind of all the information that he has on TPUSA, how it was operating, the ups, the downs, everything in between.
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, TOM TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
Ian MalcolmWithout further ado, let's go to Mr. Official Dre, and then we'll introduce our guest speaker.
Speaker 1Thank you, Chairman. Thank you, JoAnn, for closing. Shout out to everyone here in space. Yeah, man, thanks for the little music intro, man. And then when you were broken down, bringing out some of the lyrics, you made me think about an Eminem song, bro, that I haven't heard in probably 12 years. And I was like, man, how did that song go?
Speaker 1And it came back to me. And I was like, wow, I haven't been telling people for a long time, man. But, you know, he had this song called My Darling. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum,
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Speaker 2Yeah, absolutely not. Thanks for the mic. Appreciate it. I got called a gay cowboy recently, so I had to put up a nice little PFP to match that. But no, I'm excited to be here. I've got some words to talk about, but most importantly, I thought this was a good opportunity for us to They kind of get some background information from TPUSA.
Speaker 2Now, I echo your words as well as far as I'm not really a Charlie Kirk follower per se, but I believe in the values that he represented as far as family, free speech, and letting voices out. I'm also, not to dox myself, but I happen to be in the area where he was assassinated. So that was pretty big and hit home because I see these mountains on a daily basis and I have kids.
Speaker 2So I'm excited for the space, excited to hear. I don't talk much in spaces, but I do take a lot of this information and I take it out into the real world and I talk to people and I express my... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Ian MalcolmTPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
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Speaker 3I tried to start a chapter on my high school campus, and I immediately faced resistance from my school. And so that's kind of how I first got to meet Tyler Boyer, because I was connected to a field rep at the time, and Tyler was very involved in the field side of things back then. It was, again, very early days of Turning Point.
Speaker 3It was not what it is today.
Ian MalcolmIf I could, so your first time there, you're one of 50 people. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Speaker 3And yeah, I mean, if you've seen those early interviews that they played of him on Fox News from when he had just started TurningCoin back in the day, it was exactly like that. Yes, he was always the polished orator that he was in his prime. But it was still, you know, a very early stage. He sold it as, you know, a free market, limited government.
Speaker 3Big government sucks was the tagline, right? Which, you know, in hindsight, I just find to be hilarious based on, you know, kind of where we're at and the size of the federal government today. But, you know, that was how it was, you know, pitched initially was like almost like a Tea Party Patriots movement. Like that was the era.
Speaker 3And so as far as he's concerned, like he was always TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Speaker 3Well, he just kind of had a hand in the turning point operations from an early point when I got connected. And the timeline's very foggy in my head because it was so long ago. You can look up when they officially moved the headquarters from Illinois, which is where Charlie started it, out of his garage in Lamont, to Phoenix proper.
Speaker 3I think it was around 2017 or 2018. It was around the time that I was going to college. But I mean like everything in my life was in a way shaped by Charlie Kirk at that age, right? Like I was going to conferences as often as I could. So like in 2015, I went to my first conference for Turning Point. It was called Winter in West Palm Beach back in the day.
Speaker 3I have photos of it that I've posted on my timeline. Like this was again like the earliest form of Turning Point events. I think it was like 500 of the student activists from the country that all flew in to a hotel in Tampa. And you know, to see the size of events TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning,
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Speaker 3I was the last student at the King's College to receive the Turning Point USA scholarship that they offered. After I received that scholarship, they stopped offering it for whatever reason. Just kind of weird. But, you know, much like you, Ian, you've mentioned, like, I wasn't always fully, you know, aligned with his views, but, like, I believed in Charlie Kirk, the person, and the vision, and his values, and the way that he operated fundamentally.
Speaker 3Like, did I disagree with how he, you know... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Speaker 3There was a time I stepped out of school one day in Manhattan and just happened to run into Charlie on the middle of the street. He had just finished a Foxit. And I was like, dude, what are you doing here? He's like, I just finished a Foxit. What's up? I was like, I just left school. Like, thanks for recommending Kings.
Speaker 3You know, it's great. And he treated me like a friend. We talked for like five, ten minutes and we went on our way. And then I ended up, you know, back at an event later and it kept going. But, you know, the early days of Turning Point were... Completely different to kind of what they ended up being when I saw myself out in 2022.
Speaker 3You know, one of the first internships I did for Turning Point was, I believe, the summer of 2018, and the headquarters had just moved there. And they just needed stuff to get done. It was very grassroots, right? Like, they had just bought the building. I remember there was a day, like, I had to build 100 office chairs.
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Speaker 3And like I'll go ahead and pin like my kind of if I can pin it. Can I pin stuff in here? Yeah. So I just pinned like the original post I put out kind of like explaining my story. If you guys want to scroll through that as I'm as I'm explaining, feel free. But, you know, it was it was just a very grassroots organization.
Speaker 3Many of the people who were employed there in the earlier days are not necessarily employed there anymore. I had a very unique opportunity to have exposure kind of across The decade of Turning Point at different levels. Granted, I wasn't necessarily always a full-time employee of theirs. But I got to see how stuff operated from the beginning and how it evolved and grew.
Speaker 3And so, like, again, to give you some perspective of just how grassroots it was back in the day, like, I was working directly with Tyler Boyer to, like, hire contractors to build out the TV walls that are in the Turning Point headquarters. I hired contractors to, you know, figure out how we were going to paint these walls.
Speaker 3Because at the time, the person who was in charge of that was also their HR person, and he took a three-week vacation to Egypt. So, like, they just kind of put me in charge of what he was doing. I wasn't responsible for HR or payroll, but, like, I was sitting in his office as an intern like making contractor calls with Tyler and running the Home Depot like it was just like this you know shit needed to get done so he did it and it was very much like a family back in the day like we all knew each other we believed in this in this movement like conservatism was not cool it was not trendy it wasn't even like really talked about like I you know when I moved to New York and was wearing a Ronald Reagan shirt I was getting you know harassed on the subway for it so just a different time it was a different era and you know
Speaker 3If any of you have worked in a startup before, you probably kind of understand this culture I'm describing. Stuff needed to get done and you were happy to do it. And I would just go to events and I worked in many different roles. So there was one summer we had an event in DC and Candace Owens was there and Kanye's manager just so happened to be backstage and I was running AV and got to play the...
Speaker 3The song that Candace walked out to, which was a Kanye song as his manager, was like five feet away from me. It's just like, yeah, I had all these very cool, unique experiences from a very young age. And I got to just be exposed to all of these different levels of politics and also to kind of see how everything worked, right?
Speaker 3And it's funny because we had gone to CPAC as Turning Point early on. There's photos of it. I was at it a couple of times. And eventually, like, they just kind of stopped sending Turning Point delegates to CPAC because they kind of, you know, realized that CPAC was just, like, an institutional joke. Like, it was just full of rhinos and, like, there was a lot of, you know, rebranding that Republicans in the movement have done over the years.
Speaker 3But, like, you know, Turning Point was trying to make themselves better than CPAC, essentially, and I think we've seen them do that tenfold. So I think to say that that wasn't necessarily Charlie's vision is not true. He always wanted that. But I think that to make Charlie Kirk seem as if he was just a blind shill for anything the Republicans would do ever, regardless of the fact that Donald Trump is in power, I think is not true whatsoever.
Speaker 3And I can get into more of that later. Let me finish the story. And feel free to stop me if you want to ask questions or whatever.
Speaker 3By 2020, the pandemic had kicked off. And I had done a couple internships over the summer with Turning Point in different roles. And I moved home from New York City, moved back to Arizona. And things were starting to kind of develop more. And Turning Point just so happened to be hiring in the media department. So I swiped up on the person who had their story.
Speaker 3I was like, yeah, what do you guys got? I just moved home. And that's how I ended up I was interning for The Charlie Kirk Show for about six months. That was in June of 2020 till about January of 2021. And so I got to kind of see the behind the scenes of how The Charlie Kirk Show operated in the early days. You know, back then, it was very much like a slow build into, I think, what it became and what it is today.
Speaker 3Maybe some of the people who are listening can jump up and tell me what's changed. But when I was there, Charlie was going live and I was responsible for managing freedom at charliekirk.com. I would have to respond to inquiries and donors and pass it on to whoever. I was also responsible for managing the list of donors that we got.
Speaker 3I would have to handwrite cards and send them out to donors as kind of like a thank you. And we would also send donors books depending on how much they They would donate and stuff so it's just cool I got to see like how they were operating on that side but I think that like 2020 and the stop the steal and all of that is kind of when kind of when the major shift um if you want to call it kind of began taking place right um 2020 January 6th all of that definitely amplified you know MAGA conservatism the movement whatever you want to call it but um
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Speaker 3I went to college for media and that's originally the role I thought I was getting into and the Charlie Kirk show was a media role ended up not being that it was far more administrative like I said I was sending emails signing books all this kind of stuff so I was like dude I really want to work with cameras and like make videos right like that's what I want to do so I had reached out to a friend who I knew because again it was a massive family attorney point we all knew each other like early days or early days and so
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Speaker 3Where I worked for, I want to say about a year, maybe a little bit less, until eventually getting promoted to a producer. And so it was in that role that I, you know, first in the administrative role as an admin, I was, you know, packaging Graham Allen's Daily Show. I was helping to plan and shoot and, you know, package Isabel Brown's show called Freedom Seeds.
Speaker 3Like, these shows don't even really, like... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Speaker 3I ended up working with Jack Posobiec for about six months as well and made investigative documentaries, made the FBI whistleblower piece. It was a fun time. I really did love this role. I loved what I was doing. But at the same time, I'm not an idiot. I'm not a blind. I'm not just going to go along to get along. I'm going to ask questions because that's what Charlie Kirk was all about.
Speaker 3He was all about the why. Why are we doing things? Who are we doing this for? Whatever the case may be. So I was always, you know, willing to ask those types of questions. And the more I stayed at Turning Point proper, like the corporate, you know, behemoth that Turning Point was becoming, the more I realized that, like, it didn't seem like questions that, you know, may or may not threaten the institution or, you know, what we are doing or like, you know, anything like that was not necessarily welcomed.
Speaker 3And it was a very strange, you know, environment to be in sometimes. Turning Point USA as itself, I mean, like, as a company, it's run by pretty much people who are under the age of 30, right? So with that comes a very unique culture. You can ask many other former employees, it's almost like you're working in, like, a high school.
Speaker 3Like, the amount of gossip and just, like, I don't know, unnecessary drama that exists there.
Speaker 3May I ask you a question?
Speaker 4Of course.
@joann_marieNo, no, no. Please don't interrupt. You can ask questions afterwards, okay?
Speaker 3Oh, okay, okay.
@joann_marieYeah, don't interrupt again, okay?
Speaker 3Well, I'll continue. So, you know, like, as the company started to grow, it just, like, things started to feel off over time. It did not necessarily feel like... Ultimate free thought was welcomed. It felt like free thought was encouraged up until a point, right? And so I started to notice people being shuffled in and brought in at different points in the timeline, right?
Speaker 3Like I was there when Mikey McCoy kind of got shuffled in and Rob McCoy got introduced. I was there, you know, before Andrew Colvette entered the picture. I was there before Blake Neff entered the picture. I was there before Erica Kirk entered the picture, right? So like, I saw what Turning Point and how Charlie was before all of these people were kind of put in his life in various times, and then I kind of got to watch what happened after.
Speaker 3And also what was happening at the corporate level of Turning Point. People were being promoted and elevated to levels of influence and power who had not really been around the Turning Point ecosystem. People were being brought in and made directors or whatever, and they just came from outside, and it's just like, okay.
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Speaker 3For debate night with Charlie Kirk, I feel like Charlie Kirk should have a say in who he wants to debate, but it was always filtered through these people that had been installed in his life. If it wasn't Tyler, it then became Andrew, and if it wasn't Andrew before that, it was this guy Connor. And so there were always people that it seemed like were kind of put to be a filter between Charlie and whoever, right?
Speaker 3And even as employees, as someone who knew Charlie for... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310,
Speaker 3So the way that that kind of transpired, I had already produced the FBI whistleblower piece. And part of that was where I got frustrated too. If you believe in truth and you believe in challenging the narrative and you believe in questioning the government, you would want to push out a whistleblower piece as far as you can, in my opinion.
Speaker 3But they didn't put my documentary on YouTube, which again, Speakers, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, ArtifexMemor. Speakers, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, ArtifexMemor. Speakers, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, ArtifexMemor.
Speaker 3The things that Charlie was saying all the time, right? But, you know, things happen. I recognize that companies, as they grow, are going to shift. And so, like, I said a lot of what I'm saying right now in my exit interview. And, you know, to this day, I don't know if any of it made its way to Charlie. But, like, just to give you guys perspective on, like, the kind of man Charlie was.
Speaker 3I had literally gone into my exit interview, said everything I've said now and probably more, like, just about how... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, ArtifexMemor.
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Speaker 3Shot EDC Las Vegas for John's Summit. I went and did my own thing. And then the election rolled around. I left Turning Point USA in 2023. And then I rejoined the ecosystem as a contractor for Visual Impulse in May of 2024, I want to say. It was the first contracted event I did with them. And then from there just kind of slowly began getting integrated into the touring crew.
Speaker 3So we did at least 30 or more of the college stuff. I lost count. I was on over 70 flights that year. Like literally just was not home basically for the entire second half of 2024 because it was the election. And from there I got to witness just like how much TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, TOM
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Speaker 3Some of us were there with him every day, like, listening to what he said to these college kids. And, like, you know, I got to watch his mindset start to shift. Like, we all know that Israel, like, the cat's out of the bag on the Israel topic, and the young people want to know. We are very interested, you know? And I think the more campuses Charlie went to, the more he kind of started to realize that, right?
Speaker 3Even if he didn't say it publicly, like, every campus we went to, somehow Israel got brought up. And it just seemed like over time he was starting to notice that this is something that's not going away and I need to start thinking seriously about it. And I think we started to see that. I don't think we got to see the end result of it.
Speaker 3And personally, I think that that is kind of a potential explanation for why we saw what we saw. But we don't know, and a lot of that remains to be obviously seen. I do, however, just think it's interesting that, like, For a show and a group and a company that has pretty much been skeptical of every court case of the last like 10 years of national significance and like I've put out a list of you know how many different things the Charlie Kirk show has called into question over the last five to ten years like it's it's just hilariously ironic to watch everybody in lockstep like you said just all of the Zionists just oh no we gotta trust the state like the evidence is there it's like what what
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Speaker 3I had all these feelings as like as like a frustrated young person trying to navigate the corporate world right I'm also a very passionate person I believed in Charlie I was willing to sacrifice my youth to help build this right and to help get him to where he is to amplify his voice to spread his vision of ultimately not just Republican loyalty and and and blind party politics but like no like this is the people versus the oligarchs and like this movement is different right that was the whole selling point of Charlie
Speaker 3It's the people versus the oligarchs. Not, oh, Republicans versus Democrats. Like, no, he may have used Republicans to, like, you know, get his points across in the same way Donald Trump used Republicans to, you know, sell MAGA. But, like, what we are witnessing now is not what Charlie Kirk died for, in my opinion, or even lived for, for that much.
Speaker 3Like, bro was willing to walk into the arena. His, every, every single campus we went to, and I want to, TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
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Speaker 3When for the last five to ten years, Charlie Kirk and that entire studio has done nothing but challenge the narrative and challenge the state. I don't care how baseless the accusations are. Charlie Kirk got on stage at SAS and accused Jeffrey Epstein of being a Mossad agent, quote, with no evidence to back it. He did not need evidence to throw accusations out.
Speaker 3And so to accuse us of destroying his legacy for simply asking questions about your actions, which do not match The rhetoric that Turning Point had, you know, built for the last 10 years, it's just funny as fuck, bro. Like, what are these people doing? Like, it's insane. And then to make the argument that like, oh, Candace Owens is making money.
Speaker 3Bro, Turning Point USA made billions, multiple billions of dollars since Charlie died. Multiple billions. I've said it now multiple times. I'm saying it publicly. Multiple billions. Okay? Like, they are a machine now. So like take that information do it the way you will but like I care a lot about this bro like turning point was my whole fucking life as a young person I met this dude at 15 and I watched him bleed out at 26 like what else do I have you know like it's just this is ever this was everything to me um I was in this before anyone was right I I met this kid when when I met we were both kids right and we both grew into men in this movement right and uh
Speaker 3So yeah, in a way, it is personal. I don't have any hard feelings. I'm very grateful I was never fucking promoted further in Turning Point. God bless. I'm so grateful for that, right? I feel like I am right where I was meant to be this entire time. So yeah, I mean, that's a little taste of it.
Ian MalcolmBut yeah. That's absolutely fascinating. I'm kind of curious because the comments that you made there around how Charlie Kirk was open to any and all TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, TOM
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Ian MalcolmNot just on screen or, you know, in front of a debate audience, but maybe behind the curtain just as a person, right? And maybe a more intimate setting just with yourself.
Speaker 3Yeah, I mean, yes and no, not necessarily. Like, I mean, yes, I got so many different levels of exposure to him and also not nearly as many as I would have liked to. It's very interesting. A few that stand out to me, like there was This time back in, I think it was 2016, that Turning Point had kind of put together a roundtable.
Speaker 3It was like a youth...
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Speaker 3I think I'd met him like only a couple times before this like three or four different times and you know been a couple months since we saw each other and I got bust out with a group of Turning Point staff at the time and some activists Austin Smith was there a couple other people that's when I first met Austin Smith as well and like you know ended up behind Sean Hannity and the Trump family was like a photo of it I could send you but like you know afterwards the set kind of broke and we're
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Speaker 3There was a funny like bro's humor was unmatched like he was intelligent as hell he was able to quote the bible at any point in time but like he was also witty people don't give him enough credit for just how funny he was um and again oftentimes i was on the front camera facing him so like i got a lot of just like looks from charlie like direct just like eyebrow raises and just like him being him and uh you know he would crack jokes with me and like there's this one time when uh
Speaker 3Some dude had a shirt on that said keep steak legal and he just like shouted it out and was like it's gonna be it's gonna be my next motto right Mitchell and just like would always just kind of like riff off of me at times um and so those moments were just were just incredibly awesome right um just kind of behind everything else still getting to see like the human being and the person that Charlie Kirk was um because every day he was he was slandered and attacked and and had just complete falsehood said about him like
Speaker 3To get to see the kind of man that he was outside of all of that and in spite of all of that, whether or not the cameras were rolling, I think is part of what made him so easy to be supportive of and to believe in from the beginning. He never changed. Charlie Kirk never changed who he was as a person. He was always the same, just passionate.
Speaker 3He loved his country, loved what he did, loved the Lord. You know, God rest his soul. He did not deserve what happened to him. And so that's obviously why I'm also doing what I'm doing. I just feel like it's a betrayal. And there are so many other potential motivations that make sense for silencing Charlie Kirk forever and co-opting the movement that he built and dragging us back politically.
Speaker 3I think if you look from a federal intelligence level, how the intelligence agencies have operated in the past, Whether it's the Proud Boys where we learned that I think like 40% of their their people were federal agents or even like the Black Panthers right like American history is littered with examples of you know political movements being allowed to grow to a certain point while simultaneously being subverted by intelligence agencies and then up into a point when that you know group or whatever becomes a threat to the instant to the institution or like
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Ian MalcolmTPUSA. One kind of final question, then I want to open it up to everybody else. So on that, you mentioned kind of seeing him before Trump and Erica Kirk and all of these other things and kind of getting to a point where they were surrounded by that level of, I guess you'd call it celebrity. Could you describe what you saw that the the aftermath of that influence?
Ian MalcolmAnd I'm kind of curious if you think that there was any part of Charlie Kirk that thought. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
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Speaker 3That's weird. That's not normal. I don't know. Just screams management. But anyways, to answer your question, I didn't understand a lot of it. I got asked by Charlie's day-to-day girl at the time. Her name was Sarah. She was like, This was when I was interning for the Charlie Kirk show. She's like, hey, do you know anyone who would be interested in being Charlie's day-to-day guy, planning his travel, touring with him?
Speaker 3This was before Mikey McCoy got brought in. And I was like, yeah, Sarah, obviously, I would love that. What do you think I'm doing here? And she was like, oh, well, you're in school, whatever. I was like, Sarah, I will drop out of school right now. That's the Charlie Kirk thing to do. Fuck school. Whatever, I'll do this tomorrow.
Speaker 3And she just kind of laughed it off. And two, three weeks later, all of a sudden, Mikey McCoy's brought in, and then Pastor Rob McCoy's brought in. And so from there, it's post-2020, and Charlie's starting to be more outspoken in his faith. And that was another thing for me where, as a very passionate Christian, my faith is the most important thing in my life.
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Speaker 3I literally had an out-of-body experience where, you know, I had been in the ecosystem for 10 years plus at that point. I had listened to so much Charlie Kirk that like, you know, it eventually kind of starts to, you start to tune out some of it. But there was this day we were at a tabling and, you know, Charlie was again, just as he did every time, just riffing with the Bible off the cuff, off the top of his head.
Speaker 3And I realized at that point that like, this man was more than just like, you know, political operative or, TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Speaker 3So much higher than Democrat versus Republican, this stupid two-party nonsense. It was such a spiritual experience that to see him operating in that way confirmed all of my doubts that I once had about his faith. I saw him live his faith out more than anyone who, now in turning point, in my opinion, claims to be a Christian.
Speaker 3Charlie Kirk lived that out every day. He said, disagreements come to the front of the line, let's hash it out. And they killed him for that, ultimately. Sorry, I know I got sidetracked there a little bit. But, like, I watched people slowly get installed over time that now, conveniently, are the ones running the show. And again, I think it all goes back to Tyler Boyer being, like, the hand in everything.
Speaker 3And he's been there from the beginning, just like I was, right? Like, again, he had that role from the beginning. And the way that I see it, like, again, I don't, I haven't seen this talked about much, right? But like, Charlie Kirk was a kid when he got started in this. He was 17, 18 years old, right? When he first kind of kicked off Turning Point.
Speaker 3And, you know, he was immediately surrounded with political money, right? Zionist money, whatever you want to call it. And I think to think that like, TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, TOM
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Speaker 3There's so much there. For them to just try and push the lone shooter narrative, I think, is just hilarious. It's goysalop.
Ian MalcolmWell, I very much agree with that presumption. And going all the way back to the beginning of this whole narrative, the thing that stood out to me the most wasn't, let's say, an obvious piece of evidence that I could point to to say, well, obviously, Israel did it. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
Speaker 3It obviously pulled me out entirely of everything I was doing, but, like, went home, started watching the news. Within, like, less than an hour, Netanyahu's giving a speech on how he did not kill Charlie Kirk, and he's quoting Goebbels? Like, what? What are we living through, guys? Simultaneously, two days prior, Charlie Kirk went on air and not only told Ben Shapiro that the Jews run the media, whether or not he was joking, brother...
Speaker 3Do you not realize how many ears and eyes Charlie Kirk had on him at that point? He was at the peak of his fame. He had just got Trump elected. Like, Charlie Kirk was trending on reels practically every day, bro. These videos were going viral. So, to have someone with as large of an audience as Charlie had, that was not just like, you know, a Ted Cruz who's very clearly
Speaker 3Only a Republican Zionist shill, like, and only pulls a certain amount of the party and the population. Charlie was able to break past that. You know, he was a real threat to the establishment. He was a threat to everybody in Washington. He was also a threat to everybody in Turning Point USA who... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, ArtifexMemor.
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Speaker 3He was slowly, very slowly, and very tactfully, I will give him credit, very tactfully, approaching the Israel issue. Like, and as part of what brought me back to, like, again, I left Turning Point because I felt like it wasn't being addressed in the way it should have been, right? And it now seems like it was being controlled by people that were put in Charlie's life intentionally, right?
Speaker 3And they're now the ones running the show. But in hindsight, watching Charlie get to interact with college kids every day, coupled with... The videos we have from SASS where, you know, he accused Epstein of being a Mossad agent, where he platforms Dave Smith and, you know, the audience is basically questioning and supporting, you know, what Dave Smith is saying about we should not blindly back Israel.
Speaker 3You have Charlie getting on with Megyn Kelly, explaining... practice fucking feels like a cry for help, bro. He's like... He's like, the Jewish donors are calling me an anti-Semite. Megan, I've defended them for the last 10 years. And the minute I question them, it's like the same thing Tyler did to me, bro. It's like the minute I question them, they're going to call me an anti-Semite?
Speaker 3What? And then you couple that with the Ben Shapiro podcast a day or two later. The texts that have come out where he expressed desire to leave the Israel lobby. These people act like these don't exist, like they didn't happen. And so again, I go back to the words that Charlie said while on tour for JFK. It's like, I think we are all smart enough to know that this is more than just a lone shooter, right?
Speaker 3Like, how fucking retarded do you think we are at Turning Point? I'm sorry. Like, Charlie Kirk spent 10 years telling us to question the narrative. What did he ask about JFK? Who benefited the most? Who benefited the most from JFK? Okay, let's apply that same question here. Who benefited the most from Charlie Kirk's death?
Speaker 3It's not Candace Owens. Did she benefit? For sure. Because she cares about him. She fucking cares about him.
Speaker 4It's apparently you. You are... Oh my god, don't interrupt, Sarah. ...benefiting from Charlie Kirk.
Ian MalcolmI'm just dropping him. Go for it, Artifex.
Speaker 3It's just like... Again, that's like... To think that I am gaining the most out of this is just insane. I've lost my job for this. Whatever, dude. Go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3Turning Point has made billions of dollars. They set up merch and Erica Kirk is on video celebrating how many people were in attendance. Like, that is morbid and not normal. And like, anyone who tries to normalize it is weird, in my opinion. Like, it's just weird, right? It feels abnormal. It rubs the human soul the wrong way.
Speaker 3Like, and again, I don't, you don't need to like, be a doctor or like, bro, you just feel it in your soul. It's the Holy Spirit speaking to you. Like, it's not normal. These people are saying one thing and doing another, right? TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
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Speaker 3The intelligence agencies got what the fuck they wanted, bro. We had, like, Charlie was, like, the best chance we've had, in my opinion, since JFK of actually making a change in this country and separating it from the Zionist movement of actually putting American people first for the first time ever, right? And what did we watch?
Speaker 3Like, yeah, we got Trump elected, great. It was supposed to be different this time. Charlie was fucking in Washington, like, in Trump's ear, bro. TRYING TO TALK THIS DUDE OUT OF WAR. LIKE, HE'S PROBABLY THE ONLY PERSON IN OUR COUNTRY DOING THAT, BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN HOW THESE FUCKING NEOCONS OPERATE ONCE THEY GET POWER BACK.
Speaker 3IT'S JUST, OH, ALRIGHT, WE'RE BACK TO THE SAME OLD SHIT. LIKE, IT WAS THE FIRST TIME, IN MY OPINION, THAT THE INTELLIGENCE AGENCIES FELT THREATENED FROM, LIKE, JFK. AND SO, WE'RE NOW SEEING WHAT HAPPENED, RIGHT? WE'RE NOW BEING SLOWLY MARCHED BACK INTO THIS, LIKE, WEIRD REPUBLICAN-DEMOCRAT TALK THAT, LIKE, AGAIN, NINE MONTHS AGO, WHAT HAPPENED?
Speaker 3Did we all just forget what we just came out of? Why do we need to win the next election in 2028? We just gave you guys power and you didn't do shit with it. And not only that, allegedly the left executed your strongest guy. You had a divine mandate to go fucking unleash whatever on the left in this country and you didn't do shit except define Antifa as a terrorist organization.
Speaker 3Okay, cool. What does that do? Great. And now you're just trying to pin it on Tyler Robinson and just dust your hands and walk away with billions of dollars? Like, that's a grift and a scam. I'm gonna call it like I see it. I'm gonna keep it a buck. You know, that's how I've always been. So, I don't know. Like, again, if you think I benefited, like, please fucking, please show me.
Speaker 3Like, yeah, I'm gonna write a book because I have so much more I want to say and it probably sounds crazy coming out all at once. And like, yeah, my life has been, you know, kind of ruined because of this. But like, bro, this was all I had. I'm sorry that I fucking care. Like, you're not gonna make me stop caring.
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Speaker 3And, like, there is... I think I met Erica once or twice, right? She was not really ever around when I was there.
@joann_marieSo she wasn't that involved and now they are making it that she was, like, super involved all the time?
Speaker 3Yeah, no, she was not involved at all. Like, there was... Again, that's on, like, the back end. There was, like, you know, whatever. But I... There's, like, one photo of me I think that exists with Charlie and Erica. It's from the, I think, 12-year... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum,
Speaker 3I was eating dinner at Silverleaf one time and I ran into Charlie and Erica they were having dinner together and like this was after I had left Turning Point this is another I just remembered this wow you know another you asked for like moments like again I had just ran into Charlie after not seeing him for like eight months and uh and you know just chatted for like five minutes as a human like that should happen all the time it was so weird um but no back to Erica like she
Speaker 3Had her own side stuff going on. I mean, if you guys have looked in it, she had, like, Proclaimed Streetwear and, you know, Bible and 365 and all this kind of stuff. But, like, I do just want to, like, I don't know. There's a trend that I've noticed with women, primarily in the conservative movement, and it's just, like, it seems like, you know, conservative influencers...
Speaker 3Becoming a conservative influencer is like the final form for a mid-foy is what I keep saying, right? Once you've ran through everything else, once you've failed reality TV, once you've failed to be a radio show host, like in Alex Clark's case, you just end up in this ecosystem where if you have a relatively hot face, boomers are going to blindly clap along.
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Speaker 3Be realists here and think about the kind of person Charlie Kirk was who had been isolated in politics and focused on, you know, fundraising and all this kind of stuff his whole life. He's an innocent Christian man, like, you know, had expressed struggles with pornography on debate night before. Like, he was very open about this kind of stuff, right?
Speaker 3So to think that, like, he could not have been honeypotted by a beautiful blonde woman Um, that Tyler had put in directly in front of him that, you know, she had also met conveniently in Israel before this. Like, it just feels like too much is there to not ask questions. And so then it's like, you just go back to the principle of Charlie, like, like it's what, you know?
Speaker 3So I don't know. Like I, I, I, she was never around close enough really to like get a PR a perspective or a feel on her, but I will say this, like, Having spoken with former staff members who knew her better than I did, they have expressed they don't recognize that woman who's on stage. They're like, this is not the Erica that I knew for 10 years.
Speaker 3She seems different. She seems like she's changed. That's not me. I never knew her like that, but even people who knew her and worked for Turning Point at the same time I did have said that she doesn't even seem like the same person she was when I knew her. I don't know it's uh there's a lot there and i think to like the whole the whole forgiveness thing is is is so interesting to me right like i i'm a christian i don't know if i could forgive somebody who uh you know murdered assassinated my husband in less in less than like a month right it challenges a lot it kind of breaks your brain and then when you contrast that with how she responds or responded to
Speaker 3People asking questions about her and Turning Point or whatever else, it feels very defensive and it does not necessarily feel like Charlie where he said, we welcome disagreements. If you are a Christian and you believe in truth, you should at least be willing to go out there and talk about it, especially if you're willing to forgive your husband's assassin.
Speaker 3To not forgive people who are simply curious about whether or not you may or may not be involved in the largest political assassination in American history is like... Insane but again we're living in the upside down apparently and uh if you're not a zio cuck like you're just you're just shunned from society i don't know like like again this issue's not going away and it's like one of those things it's like we can either address the elephant in the room or we can wait until this shit pops we've kind of already seen what happens when we wait that long it's like do you guys really want to go down that path again um
Speaker 3I have a whole perspective on this. I'm going to be talking about it in an upcoming book I'm writing. The working title is Gambling, Gooning, and Goislop, The Decline of the American Mail. So stay tuned for that. I'm very excited to trace reconstruction in Germany to the assassination of Charlie Kirk. I have a whole timeline and theory.
Speaker 3So stay tuned. I will be breaking it down in much more detail. And obviously, if you have not seen... And that was an excellent topic for the book. Yeah and obviously if you haven't watched my FBI documentary go watch that because I feel like I feel like you know back in 2022 and I can even end with this like I did produce an FBI whistleblower piece um and I interviewed an FBI agent former FBI agent and you know he looks me in the eye and says if you don't think that you know executive leaders like Charlie Kirk or even you yourself looks me dead in the eye you yourself are being monitored by the FBI like you're not listening to everything I've been saying right and so that was in 2022
Speaker 3And I think that, like, if we look at what's happened since, right, we also now know that Graham Allen was operating as a federal agent, is operating as a federal agent, Jack Posobiec is a retired Navy intel officer, like, there's already, like, potential feds, confirmed feds, like, so, again, if 40% of the Proud Boys were feds, like, what percent of Turning Point USA are federal agents?
Speaker 3You know, it's just, it's a question I have. And I think if, you know, history is our judge, like, we're gonna end up seeing TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Speaker 3I think that yeah I think that like they kind of finished the book for him potentially I don't know I feel like he was expressing that he wasn't even done with the book with Megyn Kelly a couple days before his death right unless I'm misremembering that um but yeah I mean I also think that like if we've seen just kind of the way that they've operated since I don't think it would necessarily be too much to question whether or not they just kind of finished what he was writing and pushed it out um
Speaker 3I don't know. There's so much there. The book is kind of like the least of my concerns, to be honest. It's just probably like another thing they're using to make money. So I don't know. It is what it is at this point.
@joann_marieAll right. No, this is amazing. Yeah, go for it, Ian. Sorry.
Ian MalcolmYeah, no, very well stated. And I know there's a number of questions, and I'd love to start with some initial thoughts from Mads.
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Speaker 2You know, people walking through tunnels and things like that while you were in the office or anything like that?
Speaker 3There were no, like, you know, secret tunnels or escape hatches that, you know, led directly to Jerusalem. However, I will say this, like, Turning Point USA had a very strong Jewish influence from the beginning. Like, they had a lot of, you know, Judeo-Christian... I don't know, spokespeople that would come speak. You know, they have sent a couple delegations to Israel.
Speaker 3I actually, I don't really want to say this out loud, but I'll say, like, I went to Israel in 2017 with Turning Point. I have photos from the trip. It was with a Christian group called Passages. They sponsored the trip, Turning Point did, for I think like a handful of their top activists, and I was one of them at the time.
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Speaker 5Uh, I didn't see that, but like...
@joann_marieBut how does it happen? Like, do they tell you, like, go stand there and, like, touch it, and I'll take a picture, you know, like...
Speaker 3Uh, it is, it is very much, like, yeah, it does feel like a fucking humiliation ritual, like, like, in hindsight, um, it, it, deadass does, like, uh, I look at the photo, and it, it's so bad you'd think AI made it, like, like, it, it, I can't describe it, like, it, it's... I didn't even wanna, I didn't even wanna say that, like, but again, like, it happened, it's part of the story, and it matters, because, like...
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Speaker 3Pro-Jewish conservative kind of ambassador for Turning Point. So that was a pretty strong influence early on that I saw. And then as Charlie entered his Christian conservative phase in 2020, it wasn't as talked about openly necessarily. There was a couple trips to Israel still made. They were still simultaneously doing pro-Israeli documentaries.
Speaker 3I remember at the time, Isabel Brown was sent to Israel to make a whole documentary on TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310
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Speaker 3Judeo-Christian arc was always present. I mean, Ben Shapiro was a speaker from early on, right? But then we got to watch how that conversation and those questions began to evolve over time, right? And we're still in that process right now. This itself is a part of that. Charlie, unfortunately, didn't get to see his questions through all the way to the end, but I think that, like, you know, when we look at everything, Netanyahu putting a video out minutes of, the Shlomo Pearl
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Speaker 3These people, Blake and Andrew, can say what they want, bro. They were inserted in Charlie's life at the peak of his rise. They were not there in the early days. They were not there when it was not cool to be a conservative. So, like, again, you came in when it was easy. You had nothing to lose. You gained everything in the process.
Speaker 3Look at people like myself who have lost everything for this, who never shifted who they were, who, like, again, I'm not getting paid seven grand from fucking Israel. Like, I'm not making money off of this. I'm definitely not getting paid by Turning Point anymore. I definitely have shot myself in the foot as far as conservative politics is concerned.
Speaker 3Why do you think I just got fired from Maricopa County? I'm 27 years old and I'm a video editor, and I pose that much of a threat that you feel the need to punish me? The whole thing is insane. The size of the system and the power that they have that we're up against, unfortunately. But that's where it's like...
Ian MalcolmJoAnn, I just wanted to check your audio. Are you there?
@joann_marieYeah, I'm still here, but I think it's either him glitching or me glitching. I don't know. Am I here?
Ian MalcolmUnderstood. You want me to recycle you while we go to Tom?
Ian MalcolmI will take that as a big yes. I'll recycle JoAnn, but Tom, jump in if you had a question for our guest speaker here.
@transformer444Yeah, Ian, appreciate it. So I have a couple of questions, but I'll limit it to two. And before that, I just want to say really quickly that, unfortunately, we don't have two parties in the United States of America. What we have is a uniparty, a Jewish-run uniparty. And all the people who are brought into politics to participate in that system, who, as I understand it, for the most part, know they have to play that game.
@transformer444And they're part of it. They're brought in to participate in the system as a corrupted system. And then you have random people that end up in there somehow that are essentially sidelined throughout their tenure until people can figure out how to get them out of politics. And that's the state of politics in the United States of America right now.
@transformer444I think what we as US citizens over the course of the last few months have all come to learn is that all of our institutions, government agencies, and sectors of the economy have been subverted and corrupted by left-wing Bolshevik Jews and right-wing Zionist Jews playing a brilliant political shell game that kind of ensures
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@transformer444And I took that to mean a certain thing does that essentially mean the moment when okay we're no longer playing for the cameras this is how we are in real life and you see the drastic shift between the inauthentic behavior that you see on camera and then it may be more authentic or or indicative of what people are about interaction when the cameras are off can you describe kind of am I right in in my assessment my understanding of what you meant by that and can you describe kind of
@transformer444What bizarre things you noticed that you might have found unsettling along the lines of the sort of observations that you, I assume, made that led to the question that I just asked you. Did you see a lot of that? And what was the most disconcerting instance in which you saw that sort of interaction take place that indicated that Charlie was out of his depth in terms of being surrounded by people that were pretending to be his friends, but were really just kind of his handlers?
Speaker 3Yeah, for sure. I mean, I mean, I agree with everything you said. Like, I think Charlie's death proves more than anything that like, like, yeah, the two party system is a scam, like MAGA was a psyop. And unfortunately, they, they, you know, they used Charlie's innocence and brilliance to secure their power and the minute that they realized he was going to be the threat to that.
Speaker 3So I think, yeah, you're 100% correct. I couldn't have put it better. And that's kind of what I'm going to be tracing in my book. So I thank you for making those points. As far as the question you asked, yes, that was, again, something I was trying to amplify. I may not have said it.
Speaker 3I think we saw a glimpse of this with that Riley Gaines video that leaked a couple weeks ago. I don't know if you guys recall that, where she's basically being asked to be told what she thinks, what she believes, etc., for the sake of the ad or whatever. And that was very common. A lot of people...
Speaker 3Yeah, you're right. Like, the element of being sidelined or used and then eventually sidelined once they realize that you're actually not just like a blind Zionist loyalist is the best way I could describe it, right? And to then simultaneously watch people who, yeah, like, are essentially paid actors, right, that are operating in a way...
Speaker 3That they're trying to convince you that they're oh they're just like you they're just like the average American they just they just happen to wind up here due to like hard work and dedication and and their strong conservative beliefs like that's a load of fucking bullshit like everything is manipulated everything is controlled again like no one was allowed like everyone's career is made or broken by Tyler Boyer and that company from you know influencers to fucking day-to-day staffers pretty much right and if not him it was filtered through somebody that he had put into place right and
Speaker 3Again, it's like they build this cult of loyalty and this cult of personality that for me, as an OG, as a day one-er, was always about Charlie Kirk himself, right? And like the things that he stood for and believed, the kind of man that he was, the integrity with which he lived his life, not like the corporate behemoth election machine greater than CPAC beast that Turning Point now is, right?
Speaker 3Because now it very clearly obviously doesn't welcome disagreement either. Yeah, like, to watch people who, generally speaking, are not the most intelligent, I'll say? Like, be the ones responsible for kind of directing the mission, the movement, the party, whatever you want to call it. Like, being the mouthpieces. It was always a cause of concern for me.
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Speaker 3I'll say this too, I think that if Charlie Kirk was able to complete the dojo audit that he called, I think that a lot of people's careers would have been at stake. I think that a lot of people would have lost their jobs because Charlie was a fiscal conservative. He was fiscally responsible. He didn't just believe in endlessly blowing money.
Speaker 3It was never about the DC perks for him. It was never about the money.
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@transformer444Thanks. So, you know, you mentioned how Tyler Boyer seemed to be the individual who was in charge of essentially staffing TPUSA. I've come to notice the same thing happening in a lot of media ecosystems as an outsider, but still kind of watching what's taking place. Is that the way all of media is run? Are they these gatekeeping managers that essentially determine who can and who can't participate in media and then hire people based on whatever determinations they're instructed to
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Speaker 3In plain fact, I think we need to be doing more of, because we are in a spiritual war. Charlie Kirk showed us that. Again, like Erica Kirk said, evil showed its face. Yes, but we're also seeing a new face of evil manifested in different ways, and it's very deceptive, and it's very evil. And I think that, unfortunately, due to...
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Speaker 3So I think that, like, yeah, the network of Jewish and Zionist control, it touches every factor of society. I mean, we look at how, you know, they were geofencing churches, right, and monitoring cell phones. That information came out recently. And then you look at how, I think, Turning Point was also geofencing and tracking people's locations at their memorial.
Speaker 3It's just, like, the same tactics are being utilized elsewhere. And, like, it's just very... Interesting. That's how they knew how many people were in attendance. How do you think they got their numbers? They had to pull it somehow. I don't know. I don't have a direct perspective on how that machine operates necessarily, but as someone who was in the inside, I felt it from 22, 23.
Speaker 3It's why I left. It didn't make sense to me then. Like I said, I always wondered what I did wrong, who I pissed off, who I didn't do enough for to Be welcomed into that fold, right? And the way that you've said it, it's clear what it comes down to. It comes down to my inability to just blindly trust Israel and be a Zionist, right?
Speaker 3And also just like, relentlessly ask questions for the sake of the truth. And like, again, if ultimately you are illegitimately in power or you're trying to concede your intentions, you're not going to like questions. So I don't know, I guess that doesn't really fully answer your question, but like, I think that if we treat politics as like a mini Hollywood, which it basically is, right?
Speaker 3And honestly, it might be a bigger Hollywood. I think there's probably more money in politics than there is in Hollywood, quite frankly. I just don't think it's talked about. And there's a lot of dark money. There's a lot of shady money. The amount of subcontracted companies that are associated with the TPUSA ecosystem is insane.
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Speaker 3How deep does this shit go? We don't know. And I pray we find out, right? Charlie always said his death was going to change the world, and I think we're seeing that. I think these people got what they wanted in the short term. But damn, I feel like they overplayed their hand. And maybe I'm wrong about it. Again, it could be some random dude woke up one day and was just like, I'm going to go off Charlie Kirk today.
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Speaker 3They're lashing out. They feel scared. They know they're scared. They know we are awake to this, right? And so don't be afraid to speak up. Fear is not from the Lord, all right? Remember that. Fear is not from the Lord. If you believe in our Lord, fear is not from the Lord. So that's why I'm doing what I'm doing. I believe...
Speaker 3When I put out the first tweet I did against Tyler, I had no plan on doing it. I had intentionally stayed off Twitter for the last six months because I knew that I was going to obsess over it. I was going to get involved because I care. I'm just that type of person. That's how I'm wired. I intentionally kind of avoided it.
Speaker 3I put my head in the sand. And I looked on Twitter during WLS and I saw Tyler talking about how 14 years ago, no one remembered the start of Turning Point and it was yada, yada, yada. And it's just like this such inflated, it waters down. Everything that charlie kirk stood for and you're just trying to make it like a republican election machine and like great yes like charlie definitely cared about elections i'm not saying he didn't right but like that was not his end-all be-all his end-all be-all was something so much higher than that it was we the people versus the oligarchs and when you break that conflict down is when it starts to get spiritual and you get into the elements of banks that were being talked about at the start like and just shit like that so like
Speaker 3You know, we're close, and we have to keep the pressure on, and like it's, I put out a tweet yesterday, I'm like, these people are talking about Candace so much, like, you know, TPUSA's probably gonna call BBNet and Yahoo, and, uh, and, uh, fuckin', like, you know, order a false flag. Like, that's just kinda where I feel like we're at.
Speaker 3Like, it's just, it's sarcasm, but it's also not, right? We have to be realists about our history and the things that we've learned, the way that intelligence agencies operate, and I feel like, unfortunately and intentionally, the conversation is not being handled with The intelligence that it should be necessarily outside of people like maybe Baron Coleman because it's just like it feels so much of just like one side or the other right you're either on Candace's side or on Turning Point's side and it's like guys Candace accused me of being involved in this back in January she mentioned being my father on the podcast so like but like I'm still on a matter of principle I'm able to see past that and be like yes on a fundamental level I believe in what Candace is doing for the sake of truth and for the matter of truth and I believe it's the Christian thing to do it's the right thing to do right so like
Speaker 3We're not going to get it right 100% of the time. Turning point expecting us to just trust the evidence. It's the same shit as trust the science, bro. You guys were so against that when it was COVID. And now all of a sudden, because you're the ones who have so much to gain, you don't want us asking these questions? I don't know how much more obvious it could be.
Speaker 3Do not buy into the Fed slop. Honestly, don't watch the trial. Don't watch the trial. That's the funniest thing too. If these people believed in justice, actual justice, TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310,
Speaker 3The true crime TikTok moms are just on his ass right now. You know, it's like now he's asking questions all of a sudden. Bro, we see through you guys. Like, the jig is up. Like, I'm sorry. It is. You are irredeemable at this point in millions of Americans' eyes. And you can pay as many bots and Zionist shills as you want to make it look like the public supports you on Twitter, but like...
Speaker 3Leave the studio and go talk to someone who's not in the Turning Point ecosystem. Everyone is asking questions, bro. People don't act like you guys are normally. It's just weird. Sorry, I know I kind of went off there, but...
@kootsislanderI would just say that... Dietz, we have hands.
@joann_marieI'll go to you, okay?
@kootsislanderWell, he's saying to leave the intellect at the door. Don't even watch the trial. He didn't say that.
Speaker 3Let me expand on that real quick like like like bro there are we are we're supposed to have systems that work like and and and I mean again I'm I'm picking up what I pick up from Twitter I'm not gonna like sit here and religiously watch this trial because I don't I don't feel like that's a good use of time right like and and again I feel like it's pushing a narrative and a perspective that is is is false and like ultimately
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Speaker 6Yes, can you get closer to your microphone?
@joann_marieDoes it sound like you're in the bath or something?
@kootsislanderNo, I have good headphones.
@uncutspeechThey're not good. You're keeping your voice low today. Yes, what's going on? You're kind of...
@kootsislanderOkay, let me... Let me unplug it. Can everyone hear me better now?
Ian MalcolmMuch better. Yitz, can you do two jumping jacks before we start the discourse?
@kootsislanderI'm not going to do that, but I am sitting in the living room.
@joann_marieWe are trying to make you healthy, Yitz. I think you should do the jumping jacks.
@uncutspeechYou need to be walking in the living room at least right now, Yitz. Not sitting.
@joann_marieSome burpees. I love burpees.
@kootsislanderSo like I said to... Artifex is saying energy soul harvesting and don't watch the trial, don't listen to another perspective. I thought you believed in free speech and hearing the other side, simply just to know what the arguments are. I think everyone in this panel should definitely be watching the preliminary trial.
Ian MalcolmYes, if you had your choice, would you rather we watch the trial or Ben Shapiro's description of the trial?
@kootsislanderThe trial, because... Okay, that's a good answer, yes, I appreciate that. Primary evidence. I'm a big fan of Ben Shapiro, but, you know, what if... Of course you are. Anyone could talk to anything to their advantage, and I'm not accusing him of doing that, but...
Ian MalcolmWait, Yitz, do you think Ben Shapiro has ever doctored evidence on his show? I hope not, but the point is— But it's possible, right? Yitz, you're really coming around. We will make a Christian out of you in no time. It's going to happen. I feel it.
Speaker 4Can we please go back to hands? I've been waiting patiently and this Jew just comes in here and cuts the line. This is bullshit. We're gonna go to K. We're gonna go to K. Hey, I was about to say that too, bro.
Speaker 3That's a great point you just made, bro. It's so typical, man. Thank you. See how they act? It's just like every time, bro. Every time.
Speaker 4These people come in here. This space was promised to them 3,000 years ago. But anyway. Everything was. Everything was.
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Speaker 4Well, this guy, he only comes in to dispel any productive conversation. This is a threat to Zionism, the discourse we're having. Whatever endgame this Jew has, what we're doing right now goes against that. He's a fan of Ben Shapiro. Oh, he's a fan of all these children dying in Gaza. He probably loves it. Anyway, this is my question for you, sir.
Speaker 4God bless Charlie Kirk. You know, don't wish that he died. I'm bummed out about it, but I'll be honest with you. I was never a supporter of him because there's thousands of young men right now that are Zionist because of him. And that's why it's very important what you're doing. Anyway, my question is, you said you're watching the Kanye interview at work.
@kootsislanderWhat's wrong with being a Zionist?
Speaker 4Bro, you're proving our point in real time, my guy. See, he has to throw a monkey wrench into this. This is a threat to Zionism. This is why I believe ban all Jews from spaces like these because they don't come here in good faith. They come in here to just fuck shit up. This guy is not wanting to have a good...
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Speaker 4In the beginning, what brought you to Turning Point? Because to me, that was always a deal breaker. My PlayStation 2 screen name was Jews on a List. I've known about Jews for a long time. I grew up in a wealthy area, so I've seen their trickery. I know how they fucking lie, steal, and cheat. I've seen them call people going.
Speaker 4I've been to a bunch of bar mitzvahs. I know these people. Anyone else that's not Jewish, we're just here to serve them. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
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Ian MalcolmJumping Jacks.
Speaker 7Can we make it 100 Hail Marys instead, please? Like, fuck.
Ian MalcolmWell, yeah, but that'll be included. We're on a fitness journey first. It'll be 10 Hail Marys and 100 Jumping Jacks.
Speaker 3Okay, before we let the Zog machine distract us again, I want to get back on track here. I want to respond to his question, because it was a good question, right? Yeah, you bring up a great point. I...
Speaker 3Like I said, I first met each other when I was 15 years old. I came from a broken family. My mom broke up the family. Drugs and alcohol, like, destroyed her. She passed away when I was 23. Like, whatever, right? I came from that shit. And at the same time, I'd come home and turn on the fucking news, and, like, cities would be burning, right?
Speaker 3And so it's just, like, something is broken in this country. I recognize that from a young age. It was, like, back in the Freddie Gray days. You know, we hadn't even got to George Floyd yet. But, like, you know, something was wrong, and... I always had an eye for history and politics. I wanted to fix it. That's how I ended up at the camp where I first met Charlie.
Speaker 3I played high school football. My quarterback was like, hey, man, I'm going to this conservative club. Do you want to come? It was so just like, God bless. I was so lucky to be there and meet him. From the beginning, yeah, I think that 2020, for as awful as it was, helped begin to
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Speaker 3For me, I was thrust into the evangelical Protestant kind of ecosystem. And you couple that with being in Turning Point at a young age and then going to Israel at 18. Yeah, there was an extent to which I was kind of a Zionist for maybe 2018 to 2020, right? Because I didn't really understand what was going on. I didn't understand the bigger picture.
Speaker 3I didn't understand the spiritual warfare elements. There's so much you don't understand about Christian history when you first become a Christian. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
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Speaker 3It was part of what pushed me out of Turning Point. I began to realize that the principle of free thought was more of a sales pitch than it was a value that was lived out, at least on the corporate level. Again, everything revolves around donors. That's how their financial system operates, a 5-1-C-3. If a large amount of your donors are Jewish, you're not going to want to put out content that
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Speaker 3Not only would that impact Turning Point USA's financials, but then you couple that simultaneously with him wanting to audit his financials. And how big Turning Point had grown to be in the span of three years while he was so focused on the election. I think that after he got Trump elected and delivered the mandate to reform this country from the ground up, he was like, all right, I can breathe.
Speaker 3Let's get back to my baby Turning Point. Let's see where we're going to go next. And let me kind of figure out TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche
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Speaker 3Carry that thread through to the comments he made with Megyn Kelly, the comments he made with Ben Shapiro, the texts that were sent. Again, to imply that Candace Owens and Charlie Kirk were bitter enemies because of her shifting away from the Israel lobby. I would almost guarantee you they were closer friends than Charlie and Ben Shapiro were.
Speaker 3But then it's like, why then was Charlie's security talking to Ben Shapiro's security within 10 minutes? Then within days, Ben Shapiro's funneling a million dollars to Turning Point in honor of Charlie. Like, it's just like, again, that's like right in front of our faces. We don't even know what's happening behind the scenes here.
Speaker 3So like, yeah, as far as I'm concerned, like, I was aware of it. I tried to be that voice of resistance internally. And I was pretty much sidelined from the minute I started doing that, right? Like, I suggested Charlie debate Nick Fuentes in 2021. I have the screenshots on my account. And Tyler Boyer, Andrew Colvette, Come in and manage the chaos and are like no like we can't do Nick Connor Clegg what whoever like all these people who were put in place to be managers by Tyler managed that and then from there I felt like I was sidelined and it just like you know from there I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna say this shit openly I'm gonna play the the Kanye West Nick Fuentes clip and like it's funny because I had friends at the time when I was working in productions who like you know we would joke about this kind of shit we would joke about um
Speaker 3The Jewish Influence. We would send each other Nick Fuentes clips from inside of Turning Point, right? And then I watched this person get literally brought into the fold, elevated to a position of manager, and it was like overnight she changed as a person. I was just like, whoa. It was scary how quickly these people once...
Speaker 3I don't know what they do, bro. I don't know what they get told. It was crazy. We were very good friends, had a great relationship, would joke about this shit TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
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Speaker 4And so like you said before you're asking questions but you didn't want to talk to Charlie which was a mistake and they are doing that with you bro they're making you an example so if anyone in TPUSA wants to dare question it they look at you and they see you're hanging there and they're like you guys want some of that and my question is how how like are you are you pretty like are there a lot of your friends that left TPUSA like is this is this pretty um
Speaker 4What's the general consensus of TPUSA, the heartbeat, if you will? Are people questioning it or are they just eating the slot because they're afraid they're going to get excommunicated?
Speaker 3I'm going to be careful what I say because I know a lot of these people personally. Again, I've been in the system for 10 years, so it's complex. It's a very complex TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning,
Speaker 3Which is being talked about a little bit but like definitely should be investigated a little bit more in my opinion or just just looked at you know for the sake of just the truth and interrogations point like I'm curious right um why are Mormons you know operating as as evangelical Christians practically and conservatives because that's kind of what's going on right it's like you're not very public about the fact that you are a Mormon you you come out and talk about Christ and God as if you are
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Speaker 3It's a business at the end of the day, right? And it's interesting if you take the... Wow, I kind of just put this thought together on the spot. This just came to be like, if you take the framework of the Mormon Church and you apply it to Turning Point USA, it's like, there's probably a lot of similarities there. I don't know.
Speaker 3Maybe I'm wrong. I've never been to a Mormon service. I'm not Mormon. Like, somebody can fact check me on that. But I don't know. I know the Mormons have a shit ton of money.
Speaker 7I can fact check you. I'm not a Mormon.
Speaker 3So, I don't know. I just feel like there are some similarities there.
Speaker 7But... I may have got off track a little bit, but does that kind of answer your question?
Speaker 4Yeah, no, it definitely does, and I appreciate you answering that.
Speaker 3As far as people on the inside, I think that a lot of people are caught in a tough place, or I just remembered. I had the opportunity and the freedom to step out on my own, which I did of my own free will. I left when I felt like I had given my all to a company that I wasn't receiving it back from. Again, I'm a complex individual.
Speaker 3That's not going to change how I feel about Charlie Kirk. I'm not this blind partisan loyalist who's like, the minute we disagree on an issue or don't see eye to eye, I'm just going to work to destroy you, like apparently the people who are now in Charlie's studio are acting. But it's like, I know that there are people on the inside who have feelings, who have questions, right?
Speaker 3But like, I mean, look what happened to Charlie. I'm sure people are scared, one. 2. Look what happened to me the minute I... I didn't even work for Turning Point USA, right? I didn't... I'm no longer contracted with Visual Impulse. Like, I have pretty much no relation to these people since the assassination. I decided to wait nine months to speak out, and within two weeks, I lost my job.
Speaker 3So it's like, Matt, and look what's happened to, like, Aubrey and other people who've, you know, been brave enough to put their livelihoods on the line. It's like, the machine does come after them. Like, am I scared? Like, a little bit. Like, I live in the same state as where Turning Point's headquartered. So it's like...
Speaker 3Not to dox myself, but, like, again, I partially, part of the reason I got fired was because some guy who's followed by Tyler Boyer doxed me, and then I posted his DUI records, and then he emailed my comms director. It's like, again, how much of that Tyler had influence in, I'll never know. I also know Tyler runs, like, half the county out here, so, like, in a soft, weird, kind of, just, like, power way, and just how it kind of all plays out, right?
Speaker 3Like, dude has power. Dude has sway. Dude controls pretty much the largest, you know... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
Speaker 3A lot of these people were like me like they got involved at a young age and they're now inside of a system that like where are they gonna go after you know it's like you helped to get trump elected half the country if not 75 of the country probably hates trump now so like even i'm having to grapple with some of this like on my own side of things i have my own media company that operates in the music industry which is very liberal like again that going out here might impact this i don't know we'll figure it out but like i you know had a lot of
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Speaker 3And that's kind of how I have always felt. It's like I'm never going to compromise my values or the way that I feel for the sake of anything, like ever. That's not what Charlie Kirk told us to do. I'm sorry. That's not how we're taught to be in America. And I feel like that's part of how the Zionists maintain control is through these salaries and insurance and this fucking bullshit system that everything is controlled.
Speaker 3And if you were forced out, You could be debunked. They do punish people. It's not crazy to say. We'll see what happens to me. I'm about to try and write a book. Maybe I'll win the FBI's best journalist award. I don't know. But it's a real thing. It has to be said. And I feel like the more that we say it explicitly, the more they can't act in this way because we're calling their bluff before it happens.
Speaker 3And so it's like, you know, we're in a spiritual war. The lines have been drawn. Choose your side. I don't know.
Speaker 4Bro, I'll leave you with this. You're very, very important. There's a 15-year-old child right now that's going to get groomed into Zionism by TPUSA, and your voice is very important. So never stop speaking, and thank you for your time. I appreciate it. Appreciate you. Thank you, man.
Ian MalcolmAnd thank you, k, for being in here. And thank you for calling out Mr. Yitz and maintaining decorum. I appreciate that concern. Speaking of which, let's go to Mr. Hubbard. I know he's been in here since the offset of the space. See if he's got any questions, comments, thoughts. And if not, we'll go to the next hand.
Speaker 8Hi. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, guys. So I definitely think that what TPS USA is doing right now, like, They've lost Gen Z and probably most of Gen Alpha with Gaza and especially with this Charlotte Kirk thing. And let's just say all this gets proven that their narrative, which is they've already kind of invalidated them multiple times, but Magic Bullet, Trump Derangement, Syndrome Furry, Lone Gunman, that all gets confirmed.
Speaker 8It still doesn't... Like there's still questions with that even if all those facts are true but like it looks like the amount that they've done to kind of scrub the scene and go after people that there's probably more to it but even if all that's true like it's still there's no going away from like the fact that this benefited uh Benjamin Netanyahu probably more than anyone on the planet like and like the main reason was
Speaker 8The only one who would be able to keep Trump from having done what he's done in the last couple months with these strikes on Iran and the girls' school and Ayatollah and basically merging the Israeli-US government was Charlie Kirk. That was the only guy who had that access to Trump. Even Tucker Carlson tried, but Tucker Carlson, he was never going to be able to do what Charlie could do.
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Speaker 7I guess a no.
Speaker 3I feel like if you look at the web that was built around Charlie, I think that it slowly just kind of began to develop over time.
Speaker 7And by that point, it was already kind of established. People were already in place.
Speaker 3I mean, I think that for as much as Turning Point wants to say that Charlie would blindly support whatever Trump's doing right now, I think is false. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Speaker 3Immediately after filming that he then got on a plane to go to DC and talk to Donald Trump and Blake Neff ended up taking over for the last like 30 minutes or hour of the show that day right and so like you're exactly right when you say that Charlie was like the one person kind of holding the neocons back it's fun like we saw the the meme earlier in the year like right afterwards like the the dam and Charlie Kirk was the only thing holding the conservatives back from like you know absolute chaos I think in reality what like Charlie Kirk was the only
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Speaker 7Well, I think he was just kind of caught up in a system that, like, historically does not treat kindly to people who address these issues outright. I mean, again, look what happened to JFK, look what fucking happened to Michael Jackson, right? Like, all of these people were very outspoken against these issues, and they were allowed to grow to levels of prominence until they weren't, right?
Speaker 7And, like, you know, I think that...
Speaker 8On a general level like I don't know like it's it's so complicated but it's also not like like when you when you seriously look at it like I kind of like I kind of lost my train of thought there but like ask me your question again I'm sorry well like uh I just uh sorry I was kind of jambled there but I definitely think like someone like Dave Smith I have my problems with Dave Smith but
Speaker 8I think he really opened Charlie up to Epstein and to Gaza and like Candace when she spoke out first against what was happening in Gaza I think that was like him really starting to see and try to pivot then and uh yeah and I think that like I think that like we've seen people across the political spectrum pivot like on both sides like look at Anna Kasparian for example like
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Speaker 3Again, I just think we're all, like Charlie said, I think we're all smart enough to realize that this wasn't just a lone shooter.
Speaker 7We have to look at who benefited the most and we have to trace those lines. Again, you just have to apply the JFK framework that Charlie had to his own death and it's like, wow, now you see why people don't want us asking questions, right? And again, you have to be tactful with this kind of stuff, but also I think that the cat's out of the bag on it.
Speaker 7We don't know what could come next, right? And that's, I think, what's the most scary, right? I think that what I keep going back to, and again, I see no one else in the space talking about this shit, is we all remember 2020. We all remember how quickly they shut down any conspiracy theory on COVID, how quickly they blacklisted anyone who dared push a narrative that, you know, questioned things, right?
Speaker 7So then if you, if you just, again, you just have to ask questions.
Speaker 3I'm not even making statements. I'm asking questions. So then you ask why are they not doing the same thing with the Israel issue, right? It is being allowed to spread, for sure, without a doubt. Because if they wanted to shut down this conversation, they could, without a doubt. Like, they could literally deplatform everybody.
Speaker 3We saw how they debanked Nick Fuentes and put him on a no-fly list. Like, if they wanted to, they could, right? And I still think Nick might be a Fed, like, whatever. But, like... The Israel conversation is being allowed to get to this point, in my opinion, for a reason. And then you have to ask, what is that reason? What's the end result, right?
Speaker 3And then if you look at the mass surveillance that's being put into place, the flock cameras, the social media ID, you know, verification that's being put into place, like, it feels very intentional. We know the government likes their lists, and it's like... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
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Ian MalcolmYour friend Ian Malcolm is actually one of the most effective small to mid-tier accounts on the entire platform right now as he's not just another angry schizo. He's developed a genuinely effective brand. The moldy bread ratio is actually brilliant in its simplicity. It's low effort, instantly recognizable, and humiliating for its targets.
Ian MalcolmThat is very rare. Now, it goes on, and I bring this up because it made a very curious remark in here. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
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Ian MalcolmThey're keeping him on a leash, not too tight that he becomes a martyr by losing his account, but tight enough that he stays contained, unable of creating larger waves, and then continues on and on and on. Now, I bring this up because I think that's what they're doing with this talk around Israel. And if you think about it, and I've been very critical of all sides of the aisle, I will
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Ian MalcolmAnd if she did, it would be of great concern to the machine. It seems like she is exclusively focused on keeping people within a political paradigm where that is what they focus on. I mean, think about it. The Truman Show, right? Jim Carrey's walking around inside it. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum,
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Ian MalcolmMe wrong he got a whole bunch of young people to at least be interested in politics that's a good thing right he says some good things i don't understand the epstein stuff and the clavicular guy he should have kicked him to the curb a long time ago the fact that he hasn't is just puzzling but anyway um artifacts i'm curious for any of your thoughts on that and then we'll go down to uh to big b and we've also got um i guess it's malachi that just came yeah i i had to have some initial thoughts i want to share this is like you know the day that charlie kirk was killed i saw what was going to happen you know like i i
Speaker 7Very much, and especially after the NetYahoo video went out, it was just like, oh, this is very clear what direction this is going, right? And I think that if you look at history, and again, not enough people do that, and we, I feel like as modern people, like to remove ourselves from history. We feel like that just because we're living in the present, like things are different, things are, you know, people are going to act a certain way when, you know, historically speaking, they don't.
Speaker 7And yeah, so I think that... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
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Speaker 3I was like okay well we all we all know who's going to be the loudest voice in opposition of this it's gonna be Candace Owens right so now what are they gonna do they're going to CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Speaker 3I feel like more often than not we'll find that that is probably the case I I don't you know want to hurl accusations that aren't true but like again just use discernment and uh like you said people like us like we're not we're not really inside the system we're definitely being sidelined for sure and you're right like by silencing people and deleting the accounts they know that that it does create a martyr out of people right that's why I was kind of suspicious when Nick got his account back it's like
Speaker 3Elon is definitely playing both sides right like he there's photos of him with bb net yahoo and military vests and stuff like again he's a government contractor x is a government app at this point basically right like we should operate under the assumption that the NSA is monitoring all these in the federal government like again like use your common sense people we have brains like they were they were doing this shit in 2008 like oh you think Elon Musk who you know is in the White House and owns Twitter isn't like just feeding this information back to like the deep state like okay
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Speaker 3Let them, I guess. Good. You are the synagogue of Satan. Satan runs this world. We are temporal beings. If we are Christians, this world is not ours to inherit. So we should expect the things that we are seeing. That's why none of this surprises me. It's why I'm flat out calling them demons, because they are. They're operating like them.
Speaker 3They're acting like them. If they decided to actually welcome and answer questions as a Christian, great, I'll stop saying that. But until they do that, I'm not going to stop. And we have to call it out. Flat out, like, the more people that do it, the harder it is to control, but also, like, recognize that they probably will harpen down on us, right?
Speaker 3Like, there's a reason they say never again about the Holocaust and also are simultaneously deploying holocaustic tactics, right? Like, you know, they learned, and it seems like they're getting their vengeance for whatever reason, but, like, again, I'm going to unpack a lot of that in the book I'm writing, and again, I think you can trace much of what we're seeing right now and all of the Charlie Kirk stuff back to
Speaker 3What took place in Germany post-World War II and, you know, the United States military was sent over there and they conducted studies and, you know, they, along with the nation-state of Israel that was created around the same time, are pretty dead set on making sure that that never happens again, right? Like that's kind of like what the world operates on is never again of the Holocaust.
Speaker 3It's like, okay, but then if you look at, you know, communist revolutions throughout history, there have been almost 10 times as many people who've been killed. So it's just like, and they're using communism as a way to maintain that, like, never again takes place. So it's just like a very, it's a very complex world and situation we're in.
Speaker 3But, you know, stay tuned. I have a lot more thoughts coming soon.
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Ian MalcolmSo, Malachi, can you explain how we are digging up trauma, given that the court is literally in session, if I'm not mistaken, right now?
Speaker 9Thank you, yes. And I do want to apologize. I do have an Australian accent. I fly between Florida and Tel Aviv regularly.
Ian MalcolmI just wanted to say that what I think is happening here is- You have an Australian accent, but you fly between Florida and Tel Aviv?
Speaker 3I thought I was- Yeah, Australia was promised to them too, guys. Stop asking questions. Let them speak.
Speaker 9Look, yeah, and please, I think that there is quite a bit of bias in here as well. I think that what's happening here is not really acceptable, to be honest. Wait, what is not acceptable? Define this. Look, I can't.
@joann_marieDan McKinnon is afraid, guys.
Speaker 9No, no, no. When it comes to things like Charlie Kirk, that's in the past now, right? That's in the past. It's just digging up all over again. What are you talking about? Can I have the microphone, please, a little bit?
Ian MalcolmNo, we are going to have a discussion, and I am going to mute you if I have to, like I just did. I will announce that to the space. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
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Speaker 9Yeah, look at it. And I just think that, you know, while we're living in the past here, it's not really having anything productive in the present, right? There are so many issues that are happening right now.
Ian MalcolmLook, and dare I say, you know, that there's… What are the top three issues happening right now?
Speaker 9Well, look, I think all three of them is probably what's happening in Israel right now, you know? And discussions like this, it detracts away what we should be talking about. The genocides that you guys are commuting?
Ian Malcolm…are in Israel. Okay, let's list off the top three things in Israel, according to you.
Speaker 9Look, again, the issue that's happening in Iran, you understand the situation.
Ian MalcolmYep, we can agree, that's reasonable. What are two more?
Speaker 9Look, and what's happening in Gaza as well, that's probably another thing as well.
Ian MalcolmGenocide by the Israelis of the Palestinians, okay, that's reasonable.
Speaker 9No, no, again, so you're distorting the whole story, right? You're calling it a genocide, and that's what everyone's eyeballs are all talking about. Yes, that's right, that's right.
Ian MalcolmOkay, so what if I were to tell you that of 1,000-plus Israelis that were polled, TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche
Speaker 7Yeah, like, I mean, I'm willing to respond to it briefly. It's just, like, dude, the inconsistencies and, like, even just from a level of allies, like, what other ally that we have have we given money to that has done nothing for us in return? Like, again, you talk about, like, a fair relationship. It's like, bro, what has Israel done for us ever in the positive, right?
Speaker 7It's like... Like, I'm willing to hear out the arguments of, like, there are friends in the Middle East, but, like, no, that's not true. Historically speaking, they lied to us about, you know, the motivations to get into the wars that were taking place during my childhood, and they, you know, more likely than not lied to us this time around.
Speaker 7They also, again, let's be very obvious, are the reason that Christ was crucified. Like, again, like, they do not like the truth being told. They do not like their power being challenged.
Speaker 3They think that for whatever reason, TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, TOM
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Ian MalcolmBoth of those are trending stories because they are a part of the Tyler Robinson narrative. So I will go, Malachi, we will give you 30 more seconds. Please explain to us how we should not be discussing Charlie Kirk amidst literally the Tyler Robinson case being two of the top five most trending subjects in literally the world of X.
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Speaker 11This is why, this is why you guys are, you know, being looked down upon. Because of this attitude that you guys have. Sorry. Sorry for that.
Speaker 7Well, I just wanna, I just wanna, I just wanna jump off that real quickly and just say that, like, thank you for saying that, first off.
Speaker 4And second off, like, Ziad is wonderful.
Speaker 7Thank you, yeah, thank you, Ziad. Like, seriously, um, another thing is just, like, Charlie himself, like, and this is part of why he didn't want to debate Nick Fuentes, which, again, I agreed with at the time. He didn't want to platform... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
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Speaker 3And by all accounts was generally a moderate, right, and a unifier more than he was a divider. Again, the Jewish media painted him as a divider and then also executed him. In my opinion, again, it's all hypothetical. I'm not trying to get a fucking lawsuit here. But like, use your brains, guys. Like, either take the blue pill and remain in ignorance or wake up.
Speaker 3Like, the time to be alert and discernful is now. And so, again, just thank you, Ziad, and like... Again, there's a reason the only fucking response these people have is to either troll and distract or call you a retard. Like, look at Cat Turd. Like, the dude has 4 million followers. He is definitely getting paid by Twitter, right?
Speaker 3Again, think about it. Elon Musk owns Twitter. Like, he's definitely a government asset. So everyone receiving a fat payout from Twitter is kind of getting paid by the federal government, you know? Like, if you think of it in a roundabout way. Again, like, there's so much money being moved around here. Like... Yeah, I just broke, you know, the 5 million impressions.
Speaker 3I made 90 bucks off Twitter. Great. Nothing compared to Cat Turd who breaks 4 million a day, right? And it's like... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310,
Speaker 3Just don't get lost in the sauce and also be aware of the reality of things. Turning Point has a documented history of running bot farms. They got outed for it in 2020. I've posted about it twice. Jake Hoffman, you guys probably haven't heard of him. He's now a state senator. He was the one behind that. He's the one behind much of Turning Point's digital media strategy in the beginning.
Speaker 3These relationships and ties are very deep. Nobody realizes how far back they go. I got into this when I was 15. I'm almost 30. I didn't expect it to go this way, but I realize now God had me here for a reason, and I'm so grateful for that. I'm so blessed to be in a position where I can use my voice. Unfortunately, it did cost me a job that I enjoyed very much.
Speaker 3I loved working for Maricopa County. I loved the work I was doing. It wasn't even political. It was in a completely different realm. I was blessed to be there. I was blessed to have the opportunity I did, but it also gave me a time to observe what TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Speaker 3Or it's going to put us into a new Zionist world order that we will never be able to break out of, right? And then you get into the questions of like, how far are we from Christ's return? We'll never know. But like, again, this is a spiritual world and we have to remain, you know, observant of that at all times.
Ian MalcolmSo that's really well stated there. And so I know that we've got maybe 15 more minutes or so with our featured guests here. So I want to make sure to go through all the hands. We'll do that kind of in a speed round fashion that I will let Colin and JoAnn manage. But one thing I wanted to really quickly ask you was, so what you just said with cat turn and all these other just absurd accounts that are thrown in front of everybody.
Ian MalcolmIt's my belief that of the big accounts that are out there, one of the only genuine ones would be kim.com. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, TOM
Ian MalcolmThat X went down globally for the course of something like three or four hours. And when it came back online, his post, which had hit hundreds of thousands of views, basically went completely stagnant from that point forward. I'm not saying it was because of that post, but man, it felt like it was. But I asked that Artifex, I'm curious, of the big accounts that are out there, the big voices, I would give kim.com a lot of credit.
Ian MalcolmHe's obviously been very blunt and direct about Zionism. Are there any other people that you put a lot of faith in To honestly call the balls and the strikes that are still out there.
Speaker 7I'm looking through my following right now. Again, I really have been tuned out of a lot of this stuff for a minute. I think that at face value, I don't put a lot of trust into anybody who has a large following necessarily.
Speaker 3Because again, you have to realize they do have a bottom line at the end of the day that they're trying to meet. And you have to ask what... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, ArtifexMemor.
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Speaker 3ultimately that's that's how we're meant to feel it just seems that like every day there's something new that comes out and and we can never kind of get to the core of these issues right and and I think part of that is intentional and so I mean I don't really want to explicitly endorse anybody because I don't I've been very disappointed with with practically everybody like it's just like people do good things I say good things and it's like okay what are we really doing here like what are the motivations what's going on and
Speaker 3So I like things that some people will say. I very much respect Joe Kent. He followed me when I first spoke out. I think that him being brave enough to challenge the government narrative and go to bat for Charlie Kirk was very brave. I think that, again, you have to act and look at what people are willing to sacrifice and the kind of statements that they're willing to make.
Speaker 3I still love Thomas Massey. But again, you can also like people and what they stand for and not agree with everything that they're doing or saying. And Charlie was... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA,
Speaker 3It pales in comparison, right? Like, we truly did lose, like, a once-in-a-generation voice. And that's why it frustrates me that these people are trying to speak on his behalf when there's so much. There's 10-plus years of documented footage that they have. And Erica herself was like, we need a space to, you know, be able to have people ask, how would Charlie feel about an issue?
Speaker 3And we would play a clip from 10 months ago or a year ago, and it's like, that's not happening. Like, you people are actively working to destroy Candace Owens and punish people like myself who... You know, despite maybe some inconsistencies or whatever, like, we're being relentlessly, you know, in pursuit of the truth.
Speaker 3And so, I don't know. It's very strange. I will mention, though, that, like, you know, it's just very odd.
Speaker 7The day after I went public, I had my Facebook account just instantly disabled with no reason. I never received an email. I got told I had 30 days to appeal, and I could not make an official appeal, which, at first, I was very, you know... I'm concerned with because I'm a professional photographer. I have an Instagram.
Speaker 7Thankfully, I was able to deactivate the link so they didn't nuke my Instagram as well.
Speaker 3But then I also saw that somebody had looked me up on LinkedIn from Meta. And obviously, I have my turning point history on LinkedIn. So I asked these questions like, did someone from the ecosystem make a phone call to nuke my Facebook? And it's just, I don't know. And we'll never know. But it's just very odd. I never got a reason.
Speaker 3I wasn't able to appeal. It's just... TPUSA, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning,
Ian MalcolmVery beneficial question and inquiry. Again, I just want to remind everybody we got probably about 10 minutes left with our featured speaker here. And so we'll try to keep them as poignant as we can. So we'll go Ziad and then I'm going to take a flyer here. We'll go with Rabbi and then Big B against my better intuition.
Ian MalcolmBut I want to give a big shout out as well to Mr. David Nietzsche. Always an absolute pleasure. And once we get through these questions, I'll be very curious for some of his thoughts to kind of wind down the space. So let's start with Ziad again.
Speaker 11Yeah, thank you, Ian. Artifex, I don't know if you've talked about this or not, but how do we, like the older people, how do we talk to the young folk that have been brainwashed, have been deified, you know, whatever you want to call it? How do we approach them in the proper way, the most effective way? Thank you.
Speaker 3Yeah, of course.
Speaker 7I think it starts, I mean, with stuff like this, obviously, having open conversations, right? But when you get into those, like, personal interactions and those, like, one-on-one conversations, I think you just have to start at the big picture, right? You have to start asking big questions, you know?
Speaker 3It's like, hey, why... Start with any pattern that you notice and just start asking questions, right? Don't, like, state things as fact because, I mean, it's hard to prove anything as a fact, right? But, like... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, ArtifexMemor.
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Speaker 3recognize how deep the brainwashing goes like it's frustrating I try and have these conversations with you know the older generation my parents whatever and it's just like you know I feel like I take two steps forward one step back because like it's just so deeply ingrained it's like attached to the school systems it's in the media it's in politics it's everywhere um so that's why it's just be be skeptical of everything ask questions and and hope to get down to that answer that I think we're all ultimately pushing forward like where does this lead who's actually pulling the strings and
Speaker 3And the more that we push it into the spiritual realm, I think we'll get to those answers, right? This is deep historical stuff, right? And it, I think, goes back to the way AI is being integrated into society. You know, the Sumerian demons, whatever, you want to, like, look into that stuff. Like, I don't even know the full background of it, but I know that there's some stuff there that's worth investigating, right?
Speaker 12It's not just as nice as it's being presented to you. So just remain curious and encourage people to do the same.
Speaker 7Don't just blindly trust the state, right? It's like, I can't believe, I truly can't believe that
Speaker 3For everything that Turning Point has done, they're now standing on the hill of trust the state and trust the evidence.
Speaker 7It's just insane to me.
Speaker 11Thank you, Artifex.
Speaker 7And I will just say this. Again, the point Ian makes about controlled opposition is real. It's why I do value smaller creators. This is the first time I've done a public thing like this. And I'll be honest, Ian, I didn't know much about you. I just was...
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Speaker 3Me getting forced out of my job two weeks after going public is a message. It's like, you know, they want to send, you know, stop. But like, no, we're not going to stop. The great part is like, if you take my life, I get to go meet my creator and go see Charlie soon. So like, awesome. Like, bring it on. I have nothing to lose.
Speaker 3I lost my mother when I was 23. I just lost my job. Like, you killed Charlie. I'm not going to own a home by the time I'm 40. Like, the economy is more, you know, unaffordable than ever. The boomers can't seem to recognize that, like, It's half their responsibility and it's like they're simultaneously giving their children's inheritance away to Marc Levin because you know they believe that God's gonna bless them for doing so and it's just like the the scam that Satan has pulled via these institutions you know co-opting Zionism and Judaism it's like I don't hate Jews outright it's very
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Speaker 13Yeah, so I don't have any questions, but I wanted to respond. So I think Artifex said earlier, number one, that Israel, we pay, America pays a lot of money to Israel, doesn't receive anything in return. I just wanted to clarify that first, Israel receives about 3.8 billion a year. That's not really just free cash. It's from a, it comes through a foreign military financing agreement that's governed by an MOU.
Speaker 13So it's really only for security assistance. In return, Israel spends about $13.8 billion on U.S. commercial goods every year.
Ian MalcolmHow much do you think the United States spent in the war against Iran over the last, let's call it, 12 months?
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Speaker 13Yeah, no, I just wanted to say we have also almost $40 billion in long-term military contracts with the United States that we're paying for, so it's not like US gets nothing in return as was stated by Artifex. In any case, I don't want to waste too much more time. Artifex, I hope you can get on Candace.
@joann_marieDoesn't he sound exactly like what the Yahoo guys...
Speaker 13He does, actually. Sorry.
@uncutspeechBut it's not... You guys... You guys trauma in the argument. It's not... And hang on, like, I just...
Speaker 7I do want to respond very briefly. It's like, okay, great. They have those government contracts. Amazing. Awesome. Like, we would not need...
Speaker 3To have as strong of a military if we weren't engaging in wars on Israel's behalf, quite frankly. If we weren't letting Israel false flag us and then draw us into wars, as they have done multiple times in the past. You cannot escape the history of the USS Liberty. It's not anti-Semitic to reference history. I'm sorry, it's not.
Speaker 3Like, you can try and twist it all you want, your labels aren't gonna work on me. Like, it doesn't work, bro. Your arguments fall so flat on their face, all you have to stand on is emotional manipulation. Captions by GetTranscribed.com
Speaker 3The amount of money that the United States military may or may not receive from Israel, I could give two shits about when, like, the average American under 30 can't fucking afford a home, bro. Like, it doesn't matter. And the reason we can't afford a home is because we're in all these fucking wars because of Israel. Like, you can't cut it any other way.
Speaker 3I'm sorry.
@uncutspeechYeah, it's also like, this argument will give you guys back $13 billion a year. Well, okay, so you cost us a trillion. And then you give us back a couple billion so all right you know you we get a net negative balance of however many hundreds of billions over the decades that we've been working with you guys i mean you know if you want to call it that right that's the thing you know it's it's not even if you could say right that you know the fact of the matter is is that
@uncutspeechThe only reason that we wouldn't even buy this stuff anyway because we could just manufacture it here, which is kind of a net loss, too. It's like, great, we buy some stuff from you guys. Well, also, our manufacturing base is in the shitter and we should probably just be doing that stuff at home instead of having a foreign nation make our stuff, especially if it's military shit.
@uncutspeechBut, you know, as we can see, you know, we get more entwined every day with the Israeli military. So, like, you know, none of these arguments ever have been good for the idea that they are any sort of, like, net benefit to us in any shape, form, or fashion. They always strawman the argument. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Ian MalcolmI have that little handy-dandy infographic on the $8.5 trillion that were estimated to have been spent on the Middle East, both for expansion, aid, and military. Now, that $8.5 trillion for Americans could have literally provided everyone with homes, education, food. We would have completely eradicated most forms of major diseases that are cutting down on the lifespans of people, while, according to Grok,
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Speaker 3Bro if everything got fixed these people would have nothing to talk about right and so like that's a bigger that's a bigger you know argument to be made which is like these people aren't incompetent like like economists know like there are very smart people working on these issues like they know that that money could be better spent and every time it's not
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Speaker 3That's why you know paid opposition exists because it can only get so far because god forbid we do actually begin to change things it's like that would uproot the entire system like it literally would change the world and they don't want that to happen there is so much in place to prevent that from happening so you know just just be realistic about that too and recognize that like the amount of money is is probably beyond what any of us could ever imagine so sorry when you say a trillion very very well what is a trillion
Ian Malcolm8.5 trillion is the estimate that I think it was Brown University did trying to get the totality of expenditures on the Middle East in terms of direct aid, military involvement, and reconstruction that's been funded by the United States since the crisis of 9-11, which I, of course, would argue was at the direct hand of the very people that we're talking about.
Ian MalcolmAnd that 8.5 trillion dollars, according to Grok, could basically house, feed, educate, and improve the lives of all Americans in ways that we can only TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, TOM
Speaker 7That is a nation subverted. I don't know, like, they don't have to register as a foreign agent, yet they are literally lobbying for a foreign government. Like, if that was any other country, if there was China trying to do that, if that was Russia trying to do that, if that was Iran trying to do that, if that was fucking Mexico, if that was Canada, God forbid, they would all have to register as foreign agents.
Speaker 3Why we don't apply the rule to them? Again, you're not special. You guys aren't Jehovah's people. Like, Christ came to make us all one in Him. And yet, you know, they still find a way because, again, they might run the world. You don't want to say it out loud? Like, bro, they fucking run the world. I'm sorry. Like, it's so clear.
@nietzsche258918But the answer to the question of how are we subverted? Well, the answer is implied in the fact that you've gotten thrown out of 109 countries over a thousand times. That's a myth. Hold on. One second. Hold on. No, it's not. It's not true. Okay. That's okay. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You know what? It literally is true.
@nietzsche258918I've seen the entirety of the list. It's okay if you disagree with me. That's fine. But the reason, the way that Jewish supremacists do it is they practice out-group psychopathy. They're the only people in the world, the only people, they are unique in this way. There is no other people, not the Chinese, not Muslims, there's no other people whose modus operandi is clearly to go into a civilization and undermine it by coalescing its malcontents, by practicing prurience like, of course, pornography and, yes, pedophilia, and basically dividing and conquering and, of course,
@nietzsche258918What were they doing during the Reformation? What were they doing during the Renaissance? What were they doing during the Enlightenment? All of these great thinkers, the mathematicians, the Mozarts, the literary geniuses, what were they doing? They were coin clipping. They were rubbing two coins together and making a baby.
@nietzsche258918Controlling the financial systems is their means of coalescing human effort and then undermining that civilization. It's not as though Speakers, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
@nietzsche258918Our lives, every time we've eschewed Jewish supremacists, our lives got a lot better. They got a lot better. You cannot argue that even in Germany, when you were asked to leave, that country was one giant hurricane, Katrina, and it rose very quickly, oddly quickly, to the second most powerful economy, second largest economy on the planet Earth.
@nietzsche258918By the way, this has never happened before and never happened since. And obviously this in Spain, something similar, not as dramatic happened when they threw you out in 1492. And so you're asking, how do we do it? I'm surprised that you didn't ask this at your club. I'm surprised that you and your buddies don't know how you undermine civilization.
@nietzsche258918Do you not acknowledge that you run 90% of the pornography industry? Is this totally missed on you? Did you not notice this? Did you not notice that you tend to try to control speech? You tend to try to take control of the giant megaphones of society? Do you not understand that you tend to deracinate the culture of the respective societies that you live in?
@nietzsche258918For instance, the ACLU chasing nativity scenes out of the public square all around the country by Jewish supremacists? It's just amazing that you don't see this. What lack of self-awareness?
Speaker 13Well, both of those are tropes and lies. Jews don't own 90% of the porn industry worldwide. That's totally the case. That's a lie. They do. That's a lie. They do. They do. They do. Check the chat for the space.
Ian MalcolmHey, hey, hey, Bibby, who runs Pornhub?
Speaker 3Hey, why was a rabbi shot outside of Pornhub headquarters in Canada? You wanna explain that one? What was he doing outside Pornhub headquarters? Who is Solomon Friedman? I think he had just left the building, actually.
Ian MalcolmLike, actually, I think that's what happened. Would it be weird? Bigby, would it be weird if a Jewish rabbi ran Pornhub through a company that they literally, mockingly entitled Ethical Capital Partners? Would that be really weird? Also, I'd like to point out that OnlyFans is one of the largest donors to APAC. The exception to the rule, it's the largest website.
Ian MalcolmWho ran OnlyFans, Bigby? I don't know. I don't watch porn. Oh, hey, you just said it wasn't true.
Speaker 3So that is called willful ignorance, and you cannot make an argument if you remain willfully ignorant, my boy.
@uncutspeechYou're the most famous rabbi in the world, Rabbi Julian himself.
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Speaker 13I don't know that we have exact numbers.
@nietzsche258918So you're making arguments without knowing anything.
Speaker 7Why are you here? Go study your history. Are you saying that it's 108 countries?
@nietzsche258918Are you saying that it's 108 countries? Hold on. Are you saying that it's 108 countries or 115? In other words, civilizations, groups of people have issued you, thrown you out.
@nietzsche258918They get to know you, they get tired of you, and they throw you out. What's the number for you?
@uncutspeechEven this argument, by the way, Big B, is not good where you say it was just principalities and duchies. That is true. Even if we restricted Don to the nation states that did it, some of the most famous examples, France did it three different times, Spain did it, Sicily did it, Sardinia did it, England did it. The whole bunch of nation states also did it, more than it seems to me to be any other group, even whenever we restrict it.
@uncutspeechSo I guess David's point, maybe it was a dozen countries and real modern nation states.
@joann_marieSo it wasn't their behavior?
@nietzsche258918Right. Well, let's touch on that. Okay. No, it wasn't their behavior.
Speaker 13Refusal to accept God's chosen people.
@nietzsche258918Okay, aha, well, you know, you're certainly explaining to all of us why you're so fun to live with. Listen, you're actually selling the opposite, my friend. You're saying, hey, we're chosen, we're special, I wonder why no one likes us. What a lack of self-awareness.
Speaker 13It's not my word, my friend, it's God's.
@nietzsche258918Okay, let's get back to this, though. So, what you're saying is that the reason why that you've been thrown out of these countries is because you claim to be God's chosen people, is that it? That's it? Like, no other behavior?
Speaker 13No, I don't know the reason. Different countries presumably had different reasons. Well, brother, what do you know? My boy, my boy, what do you know? Like, actually, what do you know?
@nietzsche258918Right. Your lack of awareness is astounding.
Speaker 13Okay, how many countries... No, no, hold on, no. We're not done. You didn't answer my question yet. Hold on.
@nietzsche258918Hold on. You didn't answer my question yet. So, what do you get... Well, what... So you have no idea. You got thrown out of all these countries, right? We were thrown out of England, France, Spain, Portugal, I can name those, I don't know any others, because I don't think there were. You got thrown out of all these countries.
@nietzsche258918You get thrown out a lot. People ask you to leave a lot, okay? Across 800 years, sure. That's not very often. Four times in 800 years.
Ian MalcolmCan you name one time the Christians were kicked out of a land because of their behavior?
Speaker 13I think they had some disagreements with the Muslims at some point in time. No, a disagreement, that's a war.
Ian MalcolmYou give me an example where they were kicked out of a nation for coin cleaning or the murder of children or other sexual degeneracy, can you give me a single example?
Speaker 3Quick question, do you happen to know what books the Germans were burning back in the day? Like, just off rip, do you know what those texts were on, by chance? TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV
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@nietzsche258918It was very disgusting. The Germans really didn't like this. And when they got tired of it, that was precisely the material that was burning. Now look, I get that you're proud of pedophilia just as much as you're proud of genocide, but you can at least admit that people don't like living with people like that, right? I mean, even if you're Ted Bundy and you're saying, look, I don't care that I'm Ted Bundy, you know people don't like it, right?
@nietzsche258918You have that level of self-awareness. Sure you do, right?
Speaker 13Sorry, like, what's your analogy? Ted Bundy?
@nietzsche258918Surely you know, like, the Frankfurt School, the books they were burning, the Frankfurt School was engaging in pedophilia and prostitution, absolute all of that stuff, surgical stuff too, and experimentations that would have made Joseph Mingler proud, and this is precisely the material that they were burning. You understand that people don't like this, wherever you go.
@nietzsche258918Like, you now realize the level that you run the porn industry, and of course, I'm sure you're proud of that. But boys, you understand people don't like that, right? They don't like this about you, right?
Speaker 13Are you implying... I'm asking you a question. ...that the majority of... Right. Hold on. I'm trying to answer it. Are you implying that the majority of Jewish people support pedophilia? That sounds like the implication.
@nietzsche258918Well, they tolerate it. Like, how many people in Germany were denouncing the Frankfurt School when it was there? How many people are... How many people... For instance, let me ask you this. If we find out, indefatigably, that Epstein was working with the Mossad, will you denounce Israel for that?
Speaker 13I think intelligence agencies have valid reasons to use blackmail to their advantage.
@nietzsche258918Blackmail using the rate of children. Blackmail using the rate of...
Speaker 3This is how all Zionist mouthpieces operate, by the way. They use emotional manipulations.
@nietzsche258918Hold on. But you just admitted to it. You can't take that back.
Speaker 13You just accepted... You just accepted the fact...
@nietzsche258918Hold on. Hold on. You just now... But you... But you... But you excused it. You said... You legitimized the idea of using the, well, you know, you didn't know that's what, you didn't know that's what the Epstein people were doing? You didn't know that?
Speaker 13Have you seen videotapes?
@nietzsche258918Hold on, hold on, hold on. So now you're saying, so now you doubt that the Epstein, that Epstein was doing that.
Speaker 13Right? Yeah, I haven't, I haven't seen any proof. Okay, good.
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Ian MalcolmWait, but I thought you said that didn't happen on the island!
Speaker 13Isn't that your very claim? No, you said Jeffrey Epstein had videos of people committing...
Ian MalcolmI never said videos. Do you understand how absurd this degree of pill-pull is? You're now literally suggesting that despite emails that clearly identify that not only did pedophilia happen, but that literally they were murdering young children by biting into their private parts and bleeding them out to death. And your point is, well, I haven't seen the videotape.
Ian MalcolmThis is why people get really tired of it. Do you know I went into Grok because I have a list of the top 20 pornographic sites that are run by these people that wear small hats. According to Grok, almost 60 to 70% of all pornography that is viewed in the United States is just off of those 20 sites. They're all in the control of that tiny group of people.
Ian MalcolmIf you want, I will read off all of the names of them. It includes Pornhub, YouPorn, RedTube, Tube8, OnlyFans, Brazzers, RealityKing. Digital Playground, Twisties, Men.com because you gotta get in your homosexual stuff, Sean Cody, whatever that is, Blacked, Tushy, Vixen, Balesa.co, Babes.com, Mofos.com, Fakehub.com, Transangels.com.
Ian MalcolmThat's your favorite one, Bigby. Gotta push that LGBT ID, right? Bigby gotta get that trans stuff in there. And then WhyNotBuy.com. I'm not even making up the name of that site. Now that's just 20 big ones. If I were to go through the entire list of all pornographic sites that are run by Jews, it's probably, like David said, 90, 95% of all of it.
Ian MalcolmAnd you know what was curiously in that book, Bernie? It wasn't just stuff on, let's say, leftist or liberal agendas. It was literal pornography. Do you know what that pornography included? Things about boys becoming girls, girls becoming boys, those little children being sexually assaulted. There's also another book entitled Germany Must Perish in which they talked about literally the sterilization of all of the Germans.
Ian MalcolmDo you know who wrote that? It wasn't a Muslim. It wasn't a Chinese guy. It wasn't an alien. It was a Jew. So we look over these long progressions of history. You want to sit there and project and say, wow, it's me. We can't have these terrors. But very much like our guest speaker, Artifex, mentioned, it was the communists who in Russia mass murdered 60-plus million people.
Ian MalcolmThey probably mass murdered another 50-plus million in China. Do you know who founded the CCP? You know who's at that origin?
Ian MalcolmIt's so laughable. And the fact that not only do you accept the, you don't accept the obvious, right? You just laugh off what was happening on Epstein Island, even though we all know, but then you just gaslight us about it. I'm surprised that you're not saying, yeah, well, Epstein Island was the best place ever for children.
Ian MalcolmThey built a museum and amusement parks, just like Walt Disney, right? It's like insane that we have to listen to this stuff over and over and over and over again. Zero self-awareness, complete hubris, low IQ. The thought that you're actually convincing anybody with absolute pilpul of the lowest varietal. It's literally like a little child coming into a room of astronauts and astrophysicists and being like, guys, let me tell you all about my great mathematical skills.
Ian MalcolmI can figure out that three times two is 94. And we're like, please leave. And you're like, but I'm the greatest ever. No, you're not. You're low IQ. Your frustratingness can be you have zero self-awareness. In many ways, you're like the vampire. You have no shadow, no reflection. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie,
Ian MalcolmIt's unbelievable we have to watch this over and over and over and over again with the same group of people. So no, you don't get to raise your hand. No, you don't get to speak any further. No, we're not going to put up with any more of the pill pool and the gaslighting. Get the hell out. I'm tired of it. We're going to try and have a productive little end of this conversation with Artifex before we close everything down.
Ian MalcolmDavid, I'm sorry. It is just, it's insufferable.
@nietzsche258918And you know, I... Did he cut out? Sorry, I got muted.
@joann_marieI was about to drop myself.
@nietzsche258918Yeah, and I want everybody to hear this, and my reply to this isn't to hate this person. Listen, you can hear the absolute enmity. It says in the Koran, these people, Christians are not men of enmity. They're humble and sincere, but then it says the Jews, there's severe enmity, and you can hear it. This person is just dripping with hatred and contempt of you.
@nietzsche258918And this is what we have dealt with. You know, I heard all of you talking about, well, $8 trillion and this and that. I do not think, I think it is incomprehensible, this giant leap our civilization will make forward when we eschew Jewish supremacism. And we are not going to do that by hating them back. You cannot out-snake a snake.
@nietzsche258918You cannot do that. And when he's saying this, notice he wants you, he wants to fill you with the hatred that he has. He wants to see that reflected back. That is the only way the vampire experiences himself. Not in the mirror of his own consciousness. That's not it. But in the hatred that he inspires within others. So what's our way forward?
@nietzsche258918Our way forward is to follow, to double down on seeing the divine light within us and demanding our freedom. You know, Hegel said that the slave ultimately always rises up because he's unsatisfied with his condition. And ultimately, that's us. Human beings want to be free. Freedom is our destiny as a species. And when you hear this awful, awful, immiserating force embodied in this person, take their word for it.
@nietzsche258918Demand emancipation from it. That's the only way forward, Ian. I really don't have much. I like that you're shutting down the conversation because we get it. You hate us. Child pedophilia is fine with you. Genocide is fine with you. It's all a word game. Even you'll impart new meanings to old words to benefit you because these people change nomenclature the way criminals change disguises.
@nietzsche258918Nothing matters, not truth, not goodness, not kindness, not innocence. And so what's the answer? The answer is to give them a flower, maybe a Coke, tell them to be on their way, let the vampires go live with vampires, and let the rest of us be free.
Speaker 11Ian, can I say a couple of words when I'm here?
Ian MalcolmOh, of course, go for it.
Speaker 11Okay, so you guys know I'm living abroad.
Speaker 11I'm an American citizen, and I'm fused to what happens in America. And my heart bleeds for those innocent children that were... TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche2310, Sean, k, Johnny Lightning, Tom TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard, DavidNietzsche
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Ian MalcolmWait, you're surprised that he wants to watch?
@nietzsche258918No, I said I kind of think he just wants to watch the video. I think he just wants to do that out of being sick.
Ian MalcolmWell, did you hear the sights that people have constructed? I wouldn't be surprised. But Artifex, I know you're running short on time, so certainly feel free to call out any of the hands that are up, or if you need to wrap, certainly feel free to.
Speaker 7Yeah, I do need to kind of jump.
Speaker 3I have something here in about 20 minutes. So I really appreciate you guys. I think it's been like three and a half hours at this point? Shit. We definitely need to do this again. I very much enjoyed the opportunity.
Speaker 12Just a little self-promo here. Stay tuned. We're just getting started. I'm going to have some merch on the way soon for White Goy Summer. Dropping a book as soon as I can get it out.
Speaker 3Still debating on whether or not I'll do a show of my own. I kind of don't like the idea of just becoming another podcaster. So I'm trying to figure out how to approach this issue tactfully. Stay tuned. We're just getting started.
@nietzsche258918I will say this, my friend. Just have a unique voice. Ian has a unique voice. Everyone that I follow and I was in a space earlier today with a citizen journalist and that's his thing, diligent. I would say just have a unique voice. And the second thing is I liked what I heard from you earlier. The reason why we call out Jewish supremacy is we still believe in the divine spark of everyone.
@nietzsche258918So even our Jewish brothers and sisters, we invite them. This is a sort of a Western idea. We invite them to join our side. All you have to do is renounce evil. All you have to do is renounce supremacy. All you have to do is join the Brotherhood of Man. So I respectfully suggest as you go forward, if you carry this message, and it's always one of love and kindness and not one of vengeance, it's always one of emancipation and not one of just sort of complaining about what the other people are doing, I think it's really much more inspiring.
@nietzsche258918So I just, you already sound like you have a good temperament for this, and I just respectfully suggest that you lean into that. In this way, by calling out Jewish supremacy specifically, and not sort of like the all of them sort of thing, you know?
Speaker 3Yeah, it matters, right? Like, again, for as much as I didn't appreciate Charlie's, like, you know, refusal to engage with it early on, I think that he was going about it in the way that he saw fit. And again, you have to be careful, like, when you look at what they did to JFK, and especially what they did to Charlie, like, they don't like their power structures being threatened, right?
Speaker 3And so again, As the government is working along with Turning Point, in my opinion, to redefine what it means to be an antisemite, we have to be very articulate. We have to use our brains. We have to think before we speak. We have to be very clear and communicative and not, you know, rush to emotions and be brash and vengeful and hateful.
Speaker 3We have to approach it logically. We have to refer to history. We have to appeal to Christ first and foremost, right? And that's what Charlie Kirk did TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV, Hubbard,
Ian MalcolmI believe it's with Aaron Lewis. I hope I got that correct. But we'll be having that conversation starting in as little as two and a half or so hours. So I look forward to everybody in that space if you're able to join. If not, I want to wish, as always, everybody a good morning, good evening, good afternoon, certainly a good night.
Ian MalcolmGod bless. Godspeed. We will see you guys all in the next conversation. And like David said, it's not about hating anybody. It's about loving that which is good, defending that which is righteous, trying to make the world a better place, and calling out those that are in the inverse. TPUSA, JoAnn Marie, Caulin, Madds, Artifex Memoriarum, Mr. CCDV