Held here entire — 487 passages across 18 chapters, set down from the first word to the last. The colour shifts with the film’s own mood as each chapter plays.
- 0:00quiet, reflectiveName That Song Opening GameThe host opens the space with a music trivia game before introducing the main guest.
- 13:56detached, weighingDeconstructing Film and PropagandaThe creator explains how waking up changed his perspective on Hollywood and film.
- 19:32warm, expansiveBuilding Comedy From ContradictionsHow absurd public moments and contradictions spark the ideas behind viral videos.
- 32:34measured, soberCandace Owens and Big Name EndorsementsThe surreal experience of getting noticed by major figures like Candace Owens and Alex Jones.
- 34:20cool, analyticalAI Video Production WorkflowThe guest gives a detailed breakdown of his AI video creation process and tools.
- 45:59bleak, drainedAI Censorship And Local GenerationThe guest discusses the threat of AI censorship and the need to run models locally.
- 54:39tentative, hopefulJeremy Boring and the Impact of Viral ComedyHow even the subjects of parody videos end up appreciating the humor.
- 1:01:49urgent, incendiarySupporting the Movement and Fellow CreatorsEncouraging others to create content and support the truth-telling community.
- 1:16:35calm, distantMandy's Questions on AI and MotivationMandy asks about using AI for prompting and what keeps the creator going.
- 1:28:44charged, alertUsing Humor to Bypass GuardrailsWhy comedy is the ultimate weapon for bypassing censorship and reaching people.
- 1:36:46grim, scorchedPlaying AI Video Clips LiveThe panel plays and reacts to some of the most popular AI parody audio clips.
- 1:47:07disillusionedDan Bilzerian Campaign on MagatardThe Dan Bilzerian campaign account discusses Magatard as a disarming Trojan horse.
- 1:59:15raw, woundedHollywood's Desperation and DeclineWhy Hollywood's forced content fails against authentic, truth-based comedy.
- 2:13:48melancholy, tenderNoxy Praises Magatard VideosA caller expresses admiration for the creator's character and humor while pitching a new video concept.
- 2:17:38guarded, evenJournalism and AI Training ParallelsA journalist compares building bulletproof AI references to training models for factual reporting.
- 2:23:47heated, combativeStop The Goyslop CampaignA speaker proposes a boycott of mainstream streaming platforms to shut down Hollywood.
- 2:28:44grave, forebodingFinal Thoughts and Mutual AppreciationThe guest expresses gratitude and reflects on the power of humor to fight the matrix.
- 2:38:30eerie, electricStopping The GoySlop With Creative WorkMandy celebrates replacing mainstream media with independent creators like Forbidden.
The Transcript
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Ian Malcolmis heart-to-heart, but I might be incorrect. And I gotta say, it would be a flyer for me to suggest that I know the name of the artist. But I think, is it heart-to-heart that I at least get a half a point here, JoAnn?
@joann_marieIt's not. Would you like to call someone?
Ian MalcolmThat's right. I forgot I have a lifeline. Okay. Yes. All right. I'm thinking through my lifeline here. Oh, man. We've got some good people up here. Oh, man. I'm going to flip my little invisible coin. I'm going to catch it. I'm going to turn it upside down. Okay. We're going to go to Mr. Rabbi [guest], although Mandy was on the tip of my tongue there to go to.
Ian MalcolmLet's see if Rabbi [guest], can he name that song or the artist, or are we going to go 0 for 2 here, [guest]?
@malleusigOh, name a song? Yes. Okay, well, it was Starship, previously known as Jefferson Starship, and I believe the song is simply Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now.
@joann_marieIt is!
@malleusigGood job!
@joann_marieI love this song. Like, I genuinely want to play it on my wedding. Like, it's just so happy. And yeah, no, everything that it says, it's just perfect for this space because nothing's going to stop us as long as we have people like you, Ian, and Forbidden, Rabbi, Mandy, Joey, Truth, everyone. You guys are absolutely amazing.
@joann_marieSo that's why I chose it. So, yeah.
Ian MalcolmI love it. And thank you. Okay. Thank you so much.
Ian MalcolmBut you know what is inflating? Are the number of followers, not only people that are aware of things like, let's say, Jewish supremacy and of the Jewish question, and that talk about this triangulation of power, right? We're even getting to the point where I saw Eric Daugherty, who, I mean, we should just call him Eric Doughboy-y, because all he does is just push out, the truth teller would say, right, it's just a poison, all the guy puts out.
Ian MalcolmAnd he just had a video of I'm saying I mean that's a lot of Jewish people and people are starting to note that that is really unusual.
Ian MalcolmRight? And so as we see the United States going to war continuously all over the Middle East, in particular right now with Iran, we see Donald Trump doing all of these things, sending all of this money elsewhere, all of these laws cracking down on things that are basically just attacking our First Amendment, right? Which right now is certainly under assault.
Ian MalcolmAnd we are talking with somebody that is pushing through. that they're not even pushing through the Overton window. They are taking dynamite. They are walking up. They are putting the spiritual dynamite onto the window. And then they're running away with Magatard. And they're watching as everybody laughs hysterically, recognizing the absurdity of some of these patterns.
Ian MalcolmAnd what an unbelievable way for us to basically approach the end of the month of September. And I say it because at the very offset of September, We did a space with the one and only Joey Goode, who I'm sure everybody has seen. He's the author of Tiny Hats with his puppets, right? He's out there. And for anybody who hasn't visited his page and seen his studio, I mean, it looks like Jim Henson, right?
Ian MalcolmHe's got green screens. He's got hundreds of these puppets. He makes the music himself. He's an unbelievable talent. And on the complete other end of the spectrum, the other end of the month, right? Start of the month, Joey Goode. End of the month. We're Forbidden, who has now been shared. I'm going to be so curious for what it's been like to have this experience because as much content as we've put out, and I say the collective we that have been talking about this issue for a long time, but I also see people that are in this space, the elect Bilzerian account.
Ian MalcolmI see the incredible Sam Parker, right? We put out all this content to have exploded onto the scene the way that We're Forbidden has and to be shared by literally The likes of Candace Owens to be featured in her program, right? His work just going zero to six million miles an hour in its impact on kind of the zeitgeist here.
Ian MalcolmAnd so I'm gonna be so curious, if I'm not mistaken, this is the first time that we are going to get to hear from this unbelievable content creator who is, he is responsible for Magatard. The term, of course, has origin going back prior But they figure that we can all close our eyes and envision. I'm going to be so curious for his thoughts on how this all came back, right?
Ian MalcolmHow the idea of Magatar, what is this character? Are we trying to laugh and to love and to kind of appreciate his silly little, let's say, meandering through the political world? Are we supposed to dislike the guy? All of those things created literally out of nothing by our unbelievable guest speakers. So I've been looking forward to this one forever.
Ian MalcolmAnd I see we've got some unbelievable other people that are coming up here. Mr. Rabbi Jeff, right? We've got a panel. Okay, I apologize for the long rant here. But I can almost picture the scene in Jurassic Park, right? Where, what is his name? The guy runs the park. He's sitting there looking at the screen and Ian Malcolm, he's got the little camera.
Ian MalcolmHe's looking at the thing and he's like, are there dinosaurs on this dinosaur expedition? And the guy looks at him and he just says, boy, do I hate that man. And I can look around this panel. Right, with the unbelievable people that we have. I can imagine all the Jewish supremacists looking at what we've got here and assembled and saying, boy, do I hate this space, right?
Ian MalcolmSo we are going to do some exposing of the absurdity with this unbelievable content creator. I am so humbled, so excited that everybody gets to hear about this man's journey, his inspiration, his process, creatively speaking. And so with that being said, JoAnn, that music, It got me pumped up. I am excited. And is there anything else that I might have left off the docket there, JoAnn, before we go directly to our unbelievable guests here?
@joann_marieThank you. Thank you. Thank you so much for hosting Unforbidden. I'm so excited for this space. And guys, please repost it. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and Forbidden. or superstars that are in the panel. And also check out Ian Malcolm on Malcolm Spaces, on Rumble, on Spotify, on Apple Podcasts, and on IanMalcolm84.
@joann_marieAnd please show Dank, allegedly Dank, that it's down there, some love. He's absolutely brilliant for putting this together. And I'm so excited to listen to Forbidden. He's absolutely awesome. And I posted one of my favorite videos in the Jumbotron. That day was one of my favorites. Thank you for that. That got me really hyped and I'm ready to go here and just looking at the roster right now, like the guests we have here and the listeners we have here, like what a stacked deck we have.
@wearforbiddenI wouldn't be surprised if they shut X down because of this space tonight because we've got some heavy hitters tonight. This is pretty damn cool. And I do want to say, like, thank you, guys. It's pretty surreal that people want to have a whole space about these ridiculous videos I make. So this is pretty awesome. Thank you, guys.
@wearforbiddenThank you, Ian. Thank you, JoAnn. And Mandy, by the way, she's freaking awesome. Like, she's one of the best voices on X. No, she absolutely is.
Ian MalcolmAnd that's the thing that's so crazy.
Ian MalcolmWhereas their side of the coin is all motivated by money and vanity and all these things. We're over here, these little rabble-rousers, to use a very old term. And we're like, no, we're going to talk truthfully. They are going to get very upset about it. And we, oh boy, we are going to band together and lift one another up in the process.
Ian MalcolmAnd to JoAnn's comment, and I don't know if it was the Magatar talking about all the ways in which he was supporting the absurdity of the Trump administration. I still... of all the videos you've ever done. The moment with Magatard on the Titanic where Erika Kirk Boba Fetts her way up into outer space. I don't think I've ever laughed as hard on X as I did watching Magatard's face as Erika Boba Fett Kirk just goes flying into outer space.
Ian MalcolmIt was unbelievable. So yes, we're gonna have a lot of fun with some unbelievable people. And Mr. Forbidden, I think I speak comfortably on behalf of everybody up here. Your content is just next level. And so I'm so curious, how on earth did any of this come to be? And don't share anything more than you would like to, of course, share.
Ian MalcolmBut just your either your technological expertise or the thought process behind this, or how did you even end up? Thank you for joining us.
@wearforbiddenwith memes that were getting millions of views. And they were very low quality memes, but I guess they struck a nerve and people found them funny. And then eventually I got kicked off of Instagram because I started flying too close to the sun and, you know, talking about the JQ and talking about other things in a comedic way always.
@wearforbiddenI always try to keep it funny. But apparently Mark Zuckerberg didn't like that. So I got the boot from Instagram and I'm like, you know what? Maybe I'll find my tribe on X and I'll find like-minded people on X. And I did. And it took a long time to get any traction on X. I'd make videos. You could probably scroll back on my timeline.
@wearforbiddenI'd make videos and they'd barely crack like 500 views. And I didn't really care. I'd still make videos just for the fun of it. And lo and behold, it's a miracle. And I praise God for it. The video started getting traction and started becoming popular. Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThank you so much for being here.
Ian MalcolmThank you for having me.
@wearforbiddenSo, I've always been into film, and I've always really enjoyed movies. Yeah, I know, goyslop, Hollywood, all of that. But, you know, I started watching movies differently after I woke up, so to speak. And I started, like, picking apart propaganda, and I'd enjoy movies, I think, differently than most people. I'd watch movies for the messages that they were trying to send, or, like, you know, I'd try to...
@wearforbiddenThank you so much for having me.
@wearforbiddenAnd believe me, sometimes I really just want to do that. Like, I want to make some absolutely ridiculous shit like post a video about Abigail Shapiro that makes no sense and has no message just because it's funny. You know, and I might still do that, but it's a little bit more difficult now because I feel like people have come to expect an absolute banger every time.
@wearforbiddenSo I'm just going to put this out here right now. It's not going to be an absolute banger every time. And I might just put out an Abigail Shapiro bullshit slop video tomorrow because, you know, sometimes I just enjoy making bullshit.
Ian MalcolmWell, I don't know if I've seen any of that. Everything I see and I do, I get giddy every time you pop up on my timeline. I'm like, all right, what do we got? And so I'm kind of curious about this, the process, because... Some of the inspiration that I've seen, you had obviously Steve Harvey recently from Family Feud. And I think what I'll try to see is we might be able to work with Rabbi Mallius here and have him pull up some of the audio clips so that people can kind of listen around to a couple little segments here that might be fun just to play the audio from in the event that anybody hasn't seen them.
Ian MalcolmBut the recent clip with Family Feud, One of the ones that I was just blown away by, not just the Titanic, which I think there's a lot of references that we could obviously pick apart there, both the ship and the people that were on it, but also the Alex Jones video that I think was your inspiration from that, Jack Bauer?
Ian MalcolmIs that what was going on? Because it had the ticking time clock that I think that was a reference to 24, right?
@wearforbiddenIt was. I was a big fan of 24 back then, you know, despite it being like the ultra propaganda show post 9-11 to like get everybody to approve of the Iraq war and the war in Afghanistan. Despite all that, I loved 24. So yeah, that was the inspiration for that. And I did want to make Alex Jones a kind of Jack Bauer type of character.
Speaker 1It's unbelievable.
Ian MalcolmSo, and I've talked to different types of artists at different times. Thank you for having me.
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@wearforbiddenx generally speaking is is just a really dark place for the most part it's like people fighting all the time and lots of venom and toxicity and people exposing people and it's just wars after just all kinds of and hate so you know i i do think more people should be creating and we've got like the best tools at the tip of our fingers and most of it isn't even paid stuff like granted paying for the stuff can can give you better tools and better quality stuff but
@wearforbiddenfor a while I just used Free Grok and it took a long time to make proper scenes and cut it up and put it together but I used what I could and made something happen and I think more people should do that. If you're on X, don't waste your time just consuming all the time. Make stuff and put the truth out there, put the funny out there, put whatever you want out there and you will find your audience.
@wearforbiddenIt might not happen right away but it will happen. As far as my flow, The Andrew Wilson stuff, I think that got really popular and got a lot of attention. And I think Andrew Wilson himself might even get a kick out of it and find it funny. It usually starts with a contradiction or a mannerism or a repeated phrase or something absurd happening publicly.
@wearforbiddenLike, for example, Andrew saying positive evidence during the debate. that like stuck with me and I'm like I need to make something about this and you know I'll connect it to something that I know everybody has seen like The Matrix for example and I'll go okay so I have Andrew Wilson as a character I have and I have Candace Owens as a character um I've got The Matrix I've got the funny line that I want repeated and I'll from there I'll start building a scene around it you know I already have who's in it what do they want how does it escalate what's the payoff um
@wearforbiddenand then I start to work through the dialogue and that's that's really where you know you pour yourself into it and you pour your own sense of humor into it you know I have a crazy and ridiculous sense of humor sometimes I'm like nobody's gonna find this funny and that happened with Magatard I made that video and I'm like nobody's gonna give a shit about this it's it's probably gonna be called slop it's not gonna go anywhere I I made it put it out there
@wearforbiddenI left my phone away from me for like three or four hours and then I check my phone and I'm like what the fuck is going on like the timeline is just filled with people changing their profile pictures people talking about it people sending me threatening messages people sending me loving messages that day if I could express this properly because you know that day like made me feel like I was living in a in a dream nightmare hybrid
@wearforbiddenIt was really, really weird feeling like I made a dent in the Matrix and everybody was talking about something that I cooked up. Something that I cooked up that I felt was just some funny bullshit. I didn't feel like it would make such a change or any change at all. That day was absolutely insane and maybe you can help me express it better because I really can't think of how to express that day.
Ian MalcolmWell, you know what's wild is, so the incomparable David Nietzsche, if he were in here, I think he would talk about, like you mentioned, the idea of flow states. And it was interesting, there's so allegedly Dank down there who does some wonderful AI work. He's been taking some of the, and I'm sure he'll do it with this very space, right?
Ian MalcolmHe goes and his AI will look through spaces. It'll clip segments that are very emotionally intense.
Ian MalcolmThank you so much for being here.
Ian MalcolmAnd I mean, I don't know what other word that you could use that it was a transformative day on X where I don't even know how many millions of people. I wouldn't be surprised. And this is a wild statement to make, but it's probably the case. More people saw in probably a 48-hour window the thing that you had created out of nothing, just out of the spark of creativity, right?
Ian MalcolmMore people saw that in a 48-hour window. Then probably people would see everything that I've ever done on this application over the entirety of the timeline. And I say that because when you do just catch lightning in a bottle, you're able to just make these unbelievable dents into the matrix. And you really did. You shook the whole thing up.
Ian MalcolmAnd I wouldn't be surprised. I'd be kind of curious in the aftermath about the Agent Smiths that might have Thank you for having me.
Ian Malcolmthat lightning might strike and and so we should all just basically be trying to create it just like you know the the caveman with uh what is the stick in the rock or whatever trying to create fire uh but but where what was that like just coming back to the the phone seeing the impact and then watching both the ups and the downs because I'm sure you got attacked as much as you got loved because of the the things that you were talking about yeah like I said it was it was really surreal um
@wearforbiddenI was kind of shocked by it. I didn't know what to think at first. I'm like, this could be good. This could get me a lot of attention, get my work a lot of attention. Because I never try to make it about me. It's just about the work that I do and making people laugh. And that's genuinely how I feel. If it could make people laugh and make someone's day a little bit better, then I've kind of done what I wanted to do.
@wearforbiddenSo it wasn't about me. It just felt like, what... What just happened? And, you know, I always give all praise to God because, you know, I'm sure there's some kind of scientific explanation for where ideas come from or, you know, just like they have a scientific explanation for how monkeys evolved into man, which I don't buy.
@wearforbiddenYou know, I'm sure there's some kind of scientific explanation for ideas, but I think that ideas come from a much higher place, especially creative ideas. And I really think once you recognize that you've got something or you've got this idea that came out of nowhere, whether it's a business idea or just an idea to better your own life or a creative idea or a funny idea, it's best to jump on it as fast as you can because there's no guarantee that someone else won't have that same idea.
@wearforbiddenAnd it's happened plenty of times. For example, Owen Benjamin, who's one of my favorite comedians, you know sometimes me and him will think of something at the same time and I'll see that he posted about something five minutes ago and I'm already working on the video myself and I'm like holy shit like how did you how did you think of this at the same time so these ideas are kind of like out there in the ether and it's up to us to just grab them I know it sounds like I'm on some like hippie bullshit right now but I'm not I really do believe that
@wearforbiddenGood ideas come from somewhere else. And it's up to us to get a hold of them and make something happen and bring it to life.
Ian MalcolmNow, it's really well stated. And I heard one time somebody basically suggested that it might have actually been foundering who is, I think, in here with us. But he made the comment that a lot of these tunes and jingles, if you think of, you know, the likes of John Williams, who puts together The Claim is that in some ways, to your comment, that he's not even creating something from nothing.
Ian MalcolmHe's picking something out of the ether that's always been there, right? It's resonating. And so people are ready for it if you just, to your point, you just kind of pluck it out and you present it in the moment. And that when you do have that inspiration to your comment, just jump on it and share it and... Don't be afraid of putting either yourself or your ideas out there.
Ian MalcolmAnd so do you feel like, and maybe this will be a little esoteric, but do you feel like you are tapping into, right? Is there something out there that's kind of, it's in the satellites and it's beaming to you and saying, hey, this is a way because, again, the content that you're creating, if it's reaching 100 plus million people in the course of 24 hours,
Ian MalcolmRight? You're shaping a third, essentially, or a little less than, of the country, right? If you have that many viewers in the United States, for example. So to try and comprehend the significance of being able to do something like that, right? The content that you're creating, in some sense, it's having more of an impact on more people than Walt Disney would have had, potentially, over years' worth of his career, because now we have the ability to reach so many more
Ian MalcolmSo much more quickly, right?
@wearforbiddenAbsolutely. Very well said. And yeah, I do feel like that because I don't believe in coincidences and I really don't believe in luck either. I believe that if we have good intentions and we really want to make a difference, not that I'm trying, I don't have this complex where I think I'm trying to save the world or anything, but I have a lot of ideas that I do want to share with people through comedy.
@wearforbiddenYou know, I do feel like there's a higher power kind of guiding it and helping me, you know, reach all these people. So, yeah, I don't think it's a coincidence. And I think that if someone has good intentions and they have a good idea, then it will get to many people and it will make a difference and it will make a change.
@wearforbiddenAnd I think that's exactly what's happening here. And you could probably hear me like stuttering as I try to like figure this out and express it, because
@wearforbiddenThat could lead to fucking insanity. We've seen many people become famous for their talents and maybe they're not grounded in faith and they end up losing their shit or getting on some heavy drugs and overdosing or doing some absolutely wild shit because they don't have that grounding. They can't credit their success to a higher power and I think that is really important and that's what guides us if we have the right intentions.
Ian MalcolmThat's so brilliantly stated. And that idea of staying grounded amongst all of these processes, I really do think that that and what an interesting day to have this conversation, both celebrating the unbelievable growth of this message and the fact that, you know, people are really having to come to grips with. Some of these very uncomfortable elements.
Ian MalcolmIt doesn't matter if it's Erica Kirk or what it means to support the Trump administration. People are, through your humor, they're forced to kind of reflect on, let's say, the norms of today. And simultaneously, we do see the escalation of some of these more just very uncomfortably totalitarian overreach. And I say it because I know that
Ian MalcolmAnd I don't want to throw names out there, but I know within the last couple of days alone, there have been some updates on individuals that are trying to share their truths that have had to deal with restrictions on censorship, people being locked up in, of course, in the UK, in Australia, in Canada, right? We're seeing on one side tons of interest and enthusiasm on basically this growth of this organic movement.
Ian MalcolmAnd on the other side, we're seeing the machine just continue to ratchet up both the suppression and the censorship. And then also, in doing so, they're kind of creating their own monster, right? Because more people become aware of the truths that we're, of course, sharing. And so I'm kind of curious what you've seen in terms of support either from very, very big names.
Ian MalcolmObviously, Candace Owens did a big, huge feature on you. But also, have you seen... Thank you so much for being here.
@wearforbiddenYeah, I mean, Candace Owens to me was like the highlight. That blew my mind because I was just watching her stream, not expecting any kind of mention. The first time she mentioned me or played one of my videos and that by itself was like, what just happened? Like the woman on my TV is talking about my stupid video. This is insane.
@wearforbiddenAnd then Alex Jones, too, who, you know, I don't agree with Alex Jones on everything, but, you know, I've been watching Alex Jones for... The better part of two decades now. And seeing him talk about my videos and ask to be in them is also mind-blowing. So it was Candace, you had Alex Jones, Owen Benjamin. That also was like, what is going on?
@wearforbiddenI've seen a lot of people reach out. Also, Dan Bilzerian's campaign page. He reached out to me and...
@wearforbiddenAnd he also makes pretty hilarious videos, so I definitely want to hear from him too. We always go back and forth and talk about videos and comedy and different ways we can make people laugh, so that's another thing. And just a lot of the people here right now, like I'm scrolling through it, like you have Unibots, you know, he's still a growing page, but he makes amazing stuff too.
@wearforbiddenAmazing AI videos. Rabbi Jeff, I mean, like, are you kidding me? Rabbi Jeff has like... Probably the top page on X right now. And some of his tweets just give me inspiration. Like, I'll see some of his back and forth with Grok, and I'm like, maybe I can make something out of this. Like, this just sparked an idea. It's always, like, really cool people.
@wearforbiddenYou know, Dan Bilzerian, I mean, he's like the OG of this right now. You know, I'll listen to him sometimes, and I'll get some ideas as well. But, you know... One thing I do want to talk about before I forget is the workflow. And I don't want to bore people with technicalities, but I do want people to kind of like get a grasp on it so they can go out there and make their own stuff.
@wearforbiddenSo I'll just like go through it really quickly if that's okay, Ian.
Ian MalcolmOh, I would love that. And to call it out, there's, of course, some AI individuals in here. If anybody does want to come up or to ask questions, feel free to put things into the purple pill. We'll make sure to respect all of those. If there are any, let's say, more nuanced questions around some of the tech aspects that maybe where Forbidden might be able to, you know, talk 50,000 feet about, but in the event that there's more significant questions, we can, of course, have that via DMs as an aftermath.
@wearforbiddenCool, cool. So, yeah, like I said, it starts with the idea, like, you find something that you find funny. It has to be funny to you. Otherwise, like, if you're just doing it to be like, okay, this could go viral or I want to go viral, it's...
@wearforbiddenThat's totally fine. Sometimes when you get things on the go, it comes out way better and funnier because it's natural. And in terms of the tools I use, now this is the part where it might get a little bit technical. I do most of my editing in CapCut now. I used to do it all in After Effects, which is really stupid. After Effects is like throwing a nuke at something.
@wearforbiddenYou're not really supposed to use something that technical for something so basic. Regarding the AI tools... The ones I use the most right now are Grock. And the Grock Imagine ones that I use are... They're not good for action scenes or stuff with a lot of movement, but it's really good for dialogue. So if you're doing a scene with two characters talking to each other...
@wearforbiddenIt's probably best to generate their lines separately. So don't have them next to each other in the same frame and tell Grok, like, Person A says this, then Person B says this. It'll start hallucinating and it won't work out. Generate different references using, like, ChatGPT or using GrokImagine, like, still frames, and animate those individually.
@wearforbiddenLike, the most important thing is references. Aside from dialogue itself, generate your references for your characters and for your scenes. Before you do anything, don't just let Grok come up with something on its own. Don't just type in a prompt into the video generator and say, make this person do this and make them say this and then make them laugh.
@wearforbiddenYou want to be very technical and very concise about everything you do. Create reference images for the characters, setting, clothing, props, consistent faces, and recognizable characters. They matter. You don't want your character looking different in every scene. And another part that's kind of tedious that I would recommend to everyone if you have the time and the energy and the love for this is when you're writing prompts, don't be lazy.
@wearforbiddenSpecify camera angles. If you don't know what camera angles are called, just ask any language model, any AI language model like Croc or ChatGPT what different camera angles are called and it'll help you out. Specify the lighting, the posture, the expressions. Like I did one with Mamdani today and... I kind of wanted like a certain type of vibe and look to it so you know I I tried to like break down like the American Psycho vibe and how that was filmed and you know I'd ask AI for like information on like those camera angles or that kind of mood and it gave me that and I would put it into the video prompt um and also generate it in sections uh work within the tools clip limits like for example
@wearforbiddenSo I use Grok for a lot of things. And now the real deal for all AI generating, and this is the part you'll probably really want to listen to, is Seed Dance. Seed Dance 2.0 or Seed Dance 2.5. That's the most advanced AI video generating model. However, there's a lot of strict guardrails on it in terms of celebrity faces and celebrity voices.
@wearforbiddenYou have to be clever with how you go about it. You want to generate your own references of these people. You want to try to get around things and just be smart about it, how you use people's faces and stuff like that. Let's see, what else do we have? Oh, well, you have to expect trial and error. A lot of the time I spend with these videos is just working through really shitty generations and wasting credits on things that come out absolutely terrible.
@wearforbiddenSo I might put out an outtake video one day, and that just might be really retarded and funny. You'll lose a lot of time on trial and error. And then I guess, I don't know, maybe I'm rambling too long, but edit for comedy. At the end, when you're editing and cutting things up, it's up to you to kind of figure out the timing, add some audio, go on YouTube, find a nice royalty-free track or a song or whatever it is, add it to it.
@wearforbiddenThank you so much for joining us today.
Ian MalcolmI'll make sure that we get a correspondence in the aftermath. But so on that idea, I mean, and really it's incredible, right? You're talking about, and this is one of the things with AI, it really is phenomenal in the sense that you can say, this is what I'm trying to accomplish. You said you don't know what the camera angle, for example, would be of the American psycho where he's looking in the mirror, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd the Mondami thing, it was just wild the way that you did that. But that you, so what you're suggesting is, As you're going through this, you can almost have a back and forth with the AI to help try to, let's say, tighten up your general idea by asking it to help you uncover what it is that you're trying to get to. Is that right?
@wearforbiddenPrecisely. Exactly. That's that's it. So, you know, I never went to filmmaking school. I never I never read like a filmmaking book or anything. I just consumed the movies that I like and. I'll use those for inspiration and I'll use AI to help me figure out how to get that look or get those camera angles or get that kind of direction.
@wearforbiddenI mean, the kind of tools we have today are just like stupendous. It's like there's really no excuse for anyone who wants to create not to create. You just have to put in a little bit of time. And I wouldn't underestimate YouTube tutorials too. watching a nice 20-minute video on how to generate videos on Seed Dance or how to use Grok to generate videos and make cinematic videos, that helps a lot.
@wearforbiddenBut in the end, it comes down to what you're selling, what you're putting out there and how good the idea is. I've seen some people that are really technical and really good, but it doesn't keep you hooked in when you're watching their stuff. It just has to be a good idea and entertaining enough for people to watch. It has to be good slop.
Ian MalcolmIt has to be good slop. And on that, so just out of curiosity, so the longest videos that I think that I've seen are something maybe two, three, maybe one that's about five minutes. I'm curious with how you think you could stretch the thing that you're doing. And I say this not as a recommendation, but I'm just kind of curious for
Ian MalcolmIs it additional credits and tokens? Is it just additional time? If you were to try and put together a 30-minute broadcast program, or if you were to try to make a 90-minute film, how time-staking would it be to do that? And maybe a better way to think about it, if you can make a three-minute film in, I don't know what it takes you, a couple hours, is it
Ian MalcolmIs it possible to extrapolate that and does it kind of follow in kind in terms of the amount of time that would be required or does it just get exponentially more difficult for the computer or whatever it is that's helping to bring this to life to let's say create it onto the screen?
@wearforbiddenThat's a really good question. So yeah, I won't beat around the bush when it comes to this. Making high quality videos is expensive and it does take a lot of credits. Um, especially when you're using Seed Dance 2 and Seed Dance 2.5 as those are the most expensive ones. So generating like a generating like a two minute video, um, with all the trial and error and you're going to get some bad generations.
@wearforbiddenI mean, it'll, it'll run you like between 20 to 40 bucks per per video per like final video if you're doing like a two minute video. Um, unless you're using Grok, which is way more economical. I have the Grok Heavy Plan, which I think is like $300 a month, but it's basically unlimited. However, Grok is really tedious, and you're going to be generating maximum 15-second clips at a time, while Seed Dance is maximum 30-second clips at a time.
@wearforbiddenThe only thing with Grok is you have to generate every line separately if you want to make something good. Every camera angle separately. I'm not shitting on Grok. I use Grok.
@wearforbiddento take part in something like that, like a 30-minute project, like a real big video. But I don't think I have the budget for that right now.
Ian MalcolmThank you for having me.
Ian MalcolmThe impact that you're able to have with what you're doing is almost detrimental to the point that they would probably try to limit your ability to be that impactful, if that makes sense.
@wearforbiddenI mean, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. And it'd probably be stupid of them not to try to get involved and shut it down, as we say. But the wisest thing we could do is try to get to a point where we generate this stuff and do it locally. Right now, a lot of us are using Grok and we're using Higgs field or open art and other things that do it on the cloud, that generate on the cloud.
@wearforbiddenAnd I'm sure they can censor that and take that down anytime they please. But if you invest in a really good GPU or really good computer and maybe hire someone to install the AI on your computer or figure out how to do it yourself, then there's no stopping you there. However, I'm not too optimistic about the future when it comes to AI.
@wearforbiddenThey're starting to try and clamp down on it, try to say that it's becoming dangerous. It may very well become dangerous, but I think they have an ulterior motive when it comes to that because they don't want regular people getting their hands on AI and using it locally without the guardrails and without the freedom to do and say whatever you want.
@wearforbiddenRight now, the guardrails are pretty strict. And there's a lot of ways to work around it and try to be clever about it. And that's the thing about comedy is you don't have to say things directly all the time. You don't have to be extreme about things. You know, you don't have to just go out there and say it's them. It's like we need to do something about it.
@wearforbiddenYou could say things in a funny way and in a clever way. And, you know, whoever's going to get it is going to get it. And it'll spark some curiosity in people either way.
Ian MalcolmNo, and I've always said, and I couldn't agree with you more on this, that the tact that is humor and utilizing that as the vector to try and get these ideas across, in fact, we don't even need to suppose that that could be meaningful because the powers that be, we know that they essentially see new cultural norms via comedy in the theaters, and obviously they were using that for things like The Daily Show, right, where they recognize especially the youth, which we know that that is
Ian MalcolmBack to the headline of the space here, that idea of the Eighth Front War. We know that Netanyahu and Israel, one of their big concerns is the minds of the youth across things like TikTok, right? And so that is obviously the vector where we can go out and share lots of infographics and all these things. But, you know, the reality is that humor, laughter, right?
Ian MalcolmIf you can hook somebody who's going to see one of your videos, and I'd be curious if you even have... A sense of, and somebody did put into the purple pill asking what the rough cost is per, let's say, two or three minute video, kind of soup to nuts when you make it. But I'd also be kind of curious for your totality of impressions or views, do you even have any ability to try and comprehend what that is when you're talking the volumes that you're impacting in terms of the number of eyeballs across these platforms?
@wearforbiddenI mean, if I think about that, I think my brain will explode. But the only thing I really keep track of is how many views I get on X. But, you know, I'll be scrolling on Instagram and see a bunch of people posting my stuff there. And, you know, they'll get millions of views, too. And that's just mind-blowing. So I can't imagine how far it's going and who it's reaching.
@wearforbiddenBut it's definitely, you know, I mean, thank God it's making an impact. And as far as like what it costs to make a two minute video, you know, like I said, it'll range between 20 to 40 bucks. The real key is you just have to be very precise with your prompting and you can't half-ass it and you have to use all the tools available to you to make sure that your prompts are specific.
@wearforbiddenYou're saying exactly what you want. You're kind of talking to the AI like it's a child, like it's a toddler. You have to explain every little thing, and you can't just assume it's going to get it right the first time. Now, granted, the AIs are pretty smart, and if you leave some of the creativity up to them, sometimes it'll give you something good.
@wearforbiddenBut the real key to save money is to work on your prompting skills. And there's so many YouTube tutorials about cinematic prompting, and I think that'll help people a lot. That's really helpful.
Ian MalcolmAnd I wanted to throw that out there. I was in the pill. And that's the thing that's kind of exciting, right, is to think, and Forbidden, I'd be curious if you have thought about the fact that not only are the videos that you're making being seen by, I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. It's probably even a billion people at this point, right?
Ian MalcolmBecause you think of all of the additional people that are posting, reposting, sharing, all those things, right? And to try and comprehend that perhaps something like You know, let's say 10 plus percent of the world's population has seen your little bouncing rabbit go across the screen. It's unbelievable. And not only the videos getting seen by them, but I'm also kind of curious if you've thought of the impact that this is probably having to, let's say, encourage an entire generation of people to try and follow in your footsteps because they're seeing the success of the things that you're doing.
@wearforbiddenYeah, totally. I mean, listen, I mean, I was a 90s kid. So, you know, I put myself in my shoes as a kid back then. It's like I never could have imagined it'd be so easy to create. You know, it's mind blowing where we've gotten. Like we've gone from like black and white Game Boys and drawing in Microsoft Paint to basically typing in a few words into our computer and we can create a parody of the Titanic.
@wearforbiddenLike that is absolutely insane. And it's something that should be taken advantage of while we still have it. That's how I look at it. And I like to utilize these tools as much as I can to try to put out my ideas and put out whatever creativity I can conjure. Yeah, I forgot the rest of your question. I'm sorry.
Ian MalcolmNo, never apologize. I'm just that idea that I mean, let's just try to imagine it. And I wouldn't be surprised if it is a billion different sets of eyeballs that have seen some of your content. But even if it's 100 million, let's say, that not only are people seeing the ideas that you're sharing, but there's probably out of, let's say it's a billion people, I wouldn't be surprised if maybe, let's say it's a percent of a percent
Ian MalcolmRight? Even then, you're still talking thousands, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of people that are seeing the things that you're doing and are saying, you know what? I want to start dabbling around with my computer and see if I can make funny videos, right? And so you're acting. It's not just the content and the laughs that you're providing and perhaps getting people to scratch their head.
Ian MalcolmI wouldn't be surprised if there's, again, not just hundreds, but thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people that have seen the things that you've done and said, you know, maybe I'll... Thank you for having me.
Ian MalcolmThank you so much for joining us.
@wearforbiddenOne thing that really encourages me, too, is I've gotten messages from people and comments. Like, for example, one public one that I can talk about is I made a video with Jeremy Boring and Blake Neff the other day, and it was kind of mocking their little podcast they did where they were talking about Candace Owens, and, you know, their mannerisms were a little bit fruity, and it just seemed like a very Desperate Housewives kind of thing.
@wearforbiddenSo I made a video about that, and then Jeremy Boring
@wearforbiddenAnd if that can kind of break some ground between us and help them see the light, then I think we should all take part in creating things that lighten things up and make things a little bit funny. We can all laugh at ourselves sometimes. And, you know, as much as I disagree with Jeremy Boring on almost everything, I respect the fact that he was able to say, like, hey, that was funny.
Ian MalcolmNo, he did. And it also goes to show how
Ian MalcolmRight, he almost has to comment because he knows that there's 60, 120, whatever it is, million people that have probably had a laugh at his expense on this. And so, you know, it maybe goes to show, you know, that him replying is probably as much a, let's say, an affirmation of the virality of what you're doing as it is the humor of it, right?
Ian MalcolmHe has to address it. And that's just something that's so incredible, right? If you were to think of yourself... Thank you so much for being here.
Ian MalcolmThey're uncertain about applying those gifts that they might possess.
@wearforbiddenYeah, I mean, I never would have envisioned that it'd get to this point. And believe me when I tell you, at first it felt like a lot of pressure. And I'm like, oh, I need to meet the standard that I've supposedly set. But after a while, I'm like, I can't take this so seriously. Not that I don't want to take my work seriously, but...
@wearforbiddenI shouldn't take anything so seriously, especially if it's on X or especially if it's online. And that helps me a lot when I want to tell a joke or do something funny. It's like if I'm taking things so seriously, then it's probably not going to come out funny. And people watching the videos are going to feel that energy through the video.
@wearforbiddenI don't want it to come off as preachy or anything like that. So that's what I would advise anyone that wants to get into it is don't take it so seriously.
@wearforbiddenDon't let it beat you down. Because listen, if you're going to get a lot of eyes and if you're going to get a lot of attention, especially in the space that we're in, where we're saying a lot of controversial shit, it shouldn't be controversial. It's the truth. But the fact of the matter is, this is the world we live in.
@wearforbiddenAnd the truth is going to get you a lot of backlash. And it's going to make you a lot of enemies. And people are going to try to come after you. They're going to try to slander you. But, you know... If you're a person of faith and you believe in God and you believe we all have the same Creator despite how you believe in it or what you call it, then you should have no fear.
@wearforbiddenThe weapon of the enemy can't harm you. It can't harm your soul if you're doing the right thing and if you've got your heart in the right place. And I really can't say that enough. I'm doing what I believe is right.
@wearforbiddenI want everything I do and say and put out there to kind of be a shining light in the darkness. And I don't mean that in like an occult Luciferian way if anybody wants to interpret it like that. If my videos give somebody else a little bit of hope and happiness and laughter, then I'm really happy about that. There's enough out there making people miserable.
@wearforbiddenAnd I like knowing that I gave someone something that they could laugh at.
Ian MalcolmWell, Mr. Forbidden, it is spectacular to hear that the sentiments, the purpose, the intent, and at the end of the day, the love that you're putting these things out with, right? And that's the wild thing is that what we're saying might be controversial because we're pointing towards the power structure. But when you're doing so with love for the other, right, for kind of just humanity in general,
Ian MalcolmIt is very strange that we live in times where those are the things that are viewed as villainous, right? And the subservience to the villains is somehow now patriotism, unfortunately. But the spirit with what you're creating, it conveys in every one of the videos that kind of humor that you have, the passion for what you're doing.
Ian MalcolmI'm so humbled listening to the things that you're saying, knowing that you're in kind of this cause with this larger Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThank you for having me.
@wearforbiddenYeah, that totally does make sense. I mean, in a perfect world, I'd like to see my videos and the videos of other guys here in this space right now in movie theaters. And I think in a perfect world, I think we'd have you as the top radio host or show host instead of someone like fucking Howard Stern or whoever else is out there.
@wearforbiddenYou know, that would be a perfect world. And, you know, if people want to support, I think the best thing people could do is just laugh. Forbidden Clothes
@wearforbiddenI think it's called grifting. I don't want to grift, but if someone likes a t-shirt or likes a hoodie or a hat, then go buy it. You don't need it. It's not going to make you stronger, faster, or live longer, but if you want to support the brand, then that's what you could do. Forbidden clothes. Other than that, the most important thing is to just talk to me.
@wearforbiddenYou know, send me messages or comments, you know, tell me what you like about the work or what you don't like about the work. And I like it to always be about the work and about the videos and about the about the art, you know, if you want to call it that. And never about me, really. Like, I feel like I'm just like a proxy for putting this message out there or like a conduit or something, you know?
Ian MalcolmI know I certainly do. And it is and it's almost. Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThe likes of Truth Teller, for example. You know, he'll do threads and spaces. He will dive into some of these complex pieces of history. Same thing with Sam Parker, who was just in here, right? And he'll look into something like the MLK assassination. He might spend not just hours, but days trying to uncover something so that he can share these truths with kind of this network that he's building.
Ian MalcolmAnd I just bring it up because it is, it's a massive amount of time. You know, unfortunately, it's not easy for those of us that are trying to share these truths to do that. But I know that the things that you're doing in particular, you know, I'm just up here with a mind, right, that's trying to figure out how to make the world better.
Ian MalcolmAnd Sam Parker's doing his investigative, there we go, reporting, right? But what you're doing with AI, I wanted to make sure to bring attention to that because like you said, For you to make one of these AI videos, it might cost $50, $100, whatever it might be. And so given that there's a cost in there, I wanted to make sure that there was a way for us to at least bring attention to how people could support if they have the ability to.
Ian MalcolmAnd I don't think that term is unfortunate, right? This idea of grifting. There's a lot of that. There's a lot of people out there selling a lot of snake oil that are just trying to make money in the process. I always... Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmCould people do that would support intellectually? I'm thinking I might have to go online and see if I can find somebody that has your logo, for example, on a T-shirt just to try and get that out to the Zeitgeist. What could people do to try and just spread the idea that is forbidden wear, not the brand, but rather just the ideas, the spark that you have, the passion and the love that you're trying to take to just make the world a better place?
@wearforbiddenWell, they could... They could take up on these tools and start making videos themselves. I always love to watch other people's stuff. Matt Baker made a really cool song the other day. I think it was called Hard Flock Life. And that inspired me to make more videos. So that's kind of support in a way, too. As soon as I saw his video, it just gave me a bunch of ideas on flock cameras, a surveillance state, and a dystopian future.
@wearforbiddenum so when people create and and make really good shit that like they pour their hearts out into it that that is support in itself and that motivates me to like make the videos and to spend the money on making the videos because you know it is really rewarding and i won't deny it it's rewarding to see people see your work and and appreciate it and it's it's way more like okay we all need money to survive and we all need to like make money to eat but
@wearforbiddenIt's almost just as rewarding and nourishing for the soul to see that your work is actually providing some kind of value to people's lives. And as you said, if millions of people are seeing it, maybe close to a billion, if that's the case, then I'm sure at least one person out of those billion was maybe having a really fucked up day and was probably going to do something stupid and then maybe had a laugh.
@wearforbiddenand it just changed the direction of his day. If it is a billion people, then it's pretty safe to say that at least one person out of those billion was like, haha, that was funny. Okay, maybe life isn't so shit. I guess that's the most rewarding part of it. And that's how you can keep supporting is just by having good intentions and putting out the truth.
@wearforbiddenYou know, and you mentioned guys like Sam Parker and these people like, I think Truthseeker, you said his name was, that do these like deep research kind of things. And, you know, even Rabbi Jeff, like, you know, he puts so much time into like, into his posts and all that, you know, that's something I could never do. Like, I don't have the attention span for something like that.
@wearforbiddenI don't have the muscle for something like that, whatever it's called. and I really appreciate people like that. I'll see some of Mandy's posts sometimes and I'm like, I could see why this is getting millions of views because that's what really opens people's eyes up and that's what opened my eyes up to see the truth of the world we live in.
@wearforbiddenI just decided to use my way of doing things and trying to be funny about it to try to get it out there. But I really appreciate those people that take the time and do these really long threads You know, another guy that really did such an awesome job. His name is Drew Tang. He is on X. Drew, D-R-U-T-A-N-G. Just put so much time into threads and like esoteric stuff and research and all that.
@wearforbiddenAnd there's so many people like that. And that's the stuff that really, really matters. And that's the stuff that people digest and leave, you know, they leave that kind of learning something and knowing something new. You know, I could just come out there and put a video like, Israel did 9-11. And, you know, everybody, almost everybody's heard that by now.
@wearforbiddenIt's not really going to hit. Like, you know, it's almost nothing new for most of us here on X. But if I could take something like that and, like, turn it into a comedy, which I have, by the way, did really well on Instagram. Kind of a flex, I know. And make that a comedy, then maybe someone who hasn't heard of Israel doing 9-11 can...
@knoxieluvThat's so beautifully stated.
Ian MalcolmAnd Jester, you are not an unbelievable director, cinematographer, creator, a brilliant mind. You certainly are. And just humbled that you were in here to kind of share this story and also just share sincerely kind of a love, right, for humanity and for making the world better and for trying to just positively contribute to so much.
Ian MalcolmBecause like you said, There's so much slop. There's so much suffering. There's so much demoralization. And for people that are looking through the timeline and it's, oh, here's another video of a group of teens getting in a fistfight. Oh, here's another video of a politician demoralizing me by making fun of, you know, the ancestry of my people.
Ian MalcolmOn and on and on. Negative, negative, negative. Then they come across your video on the Titanic with Magatard. And everybody, like you said, they can laugh. And if they're not familiar with some of these ideas... and Steven Crowder, for example, in a wig getting on a lifeboat, right? They'll laugh. They'll enjoy. Their life is just a little bit better for that couple minutes that they watch the video.
Ian MalcolmAnd then they walk away and just like inception, right? You're like the Christopher Nolan of this medium right now. Because as they walk away with the laughs and they're chuckling, they also, that little seed in the back of their head, they're like, wait. Wait a sec, huh?
Speaker 1Right?
Ian MalcolmAnd then the next thing you know, the one hand feeds the other, like you said. And, you know, for the unbelievable work that, and I always want to call it out, whether it's Sam or so many others, right, that it can be a little dry to say, let's look at this kind of lost pieces of history. But when you're able to bring humor to them that sparks that interest in people to just
Ian MalcolmGo a little bit deeper, right? Then they stumble across the work that Sam and so many others have done. And this is how we all just build this coalition together. And so it's the last little thing before we go to all the hands. Just to perfectly exemplify this idea, right, that all of us, we all play our different roles.
Ian MalcolmWe all have different expertise. It might be technical. It might be entertainment and humor. Right. It might be on the research, whatever it is, just apply the thing that you feel comfortable doing. And some of it is going to be very, very, very visible. Others, it might be more nuanced. It might be more emotional. It might be more localized.
Ian MalcolmAll of it is equally important. Right. All of us play this role in this, let's say, this orchestra. Right. And as, let's say, important as the conductor might be or the guy with the The violin that's got the spotlight on him, right? Every aspect of the bow that he's using to string the violin is equally as important as the big concerto drums in the back there, bing, bong, bong, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd so I say that because we all are so much more powerful than we realize, and I just want everybody to recognize that your brilliance and your spark, right, just hone it, just find it. And it's kind of funny because you had that last little video, and I hope that maybe Rabbi Mallius will be able to play the sound clip from it.
Ian MalcolmBecause it has Steve Harvey in it. And for anybody who hasn't seen this, Steve Harvey, who maybe there's reasons to like or dislike the guy or whatever it is, but he has a monologue that he gave entitled Jump. If you've not seen it, go and watch it. And it's the idea of just finding your spark and just jumping with it because we all have something really special deep down inside us.
Ian Malcolmwith Where Forbidden. He probably had no idea a year or two ago. I'm going to create videos that will literally get in front of a billion eyeballs. And here we are because he just jumped with that spark. And so we are all unbelievably powerful. We should all stick together and band together. And if we do, the trillion dollar media empire is not going to be able to withstand.
Ian MalcolmThe Truths That We're Speaking, The Humor That People Like We're Forbidden Are Creating, and The Love That We're All Putting Out Into The Ether Here. And so I'm just, We're Forbidden, I hope you have a little bit more time because I know there's some questions, not just from the people on the panel, but also others. But I want to be respectful of your schedule.
Ian MalcolmSo I figured I'd ask before we open it up to them.
@wearforbiddenYeah, no, totally. Let's open it up to them. And I definitely have a little bit more time. So let's hear it.
Ian MalcolmAll right, JoAnn, any thoughts on this? I expected I know it was so wholesome. I love it. And it feels like...
@joann_marieI also believe that inspiration comes from God or somewhere that we don't know. So it's just so beautiful. And I love your work and your energy, Forbidden. You're awesome. And your videos make me so, so, so happy. And also the plot twists. They're not only beautiful, but at the end of them, I'm like, oh my God! Like the one from The Matrix that Candence is giving, like...
@joann_marieAndrew is there. I posted it in the purple pill. It's just amazing because I'm not going to spoil it for the people who haven't watched that, but you guys have to watch it. It's just absolutely... No, you're brilliant. So, no, thank you. And I'm so blessed that you're here. And guys, please repost it. Let's get everybody here and also bookmark it.
@joann_marieIt helps so much with the algo. And follow Ian and Forbidden. And we have like an entire panel of absolute superstars. So, no, thank you. Thank you so much for being here. And also thank you for Mandy because she's the one who helped
@wearforbiddenI really appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you, JoAnn.
@joann_marieThank you. Mandy, go for it.
@rabbimandyxThank you. I kept some notes because I know there's a lot of people with hands up and I want to make sure to respect everyone's time. First of all, bravo. Excellent job. Forbidden, you're amazing and I'm probably... your biggest fan on this whole app as anybody knows who's been to any of your posts where I'm constantly telling people to go to your site and buy some stuff.
@rabbimandyxI have a couple of questions and I'm kind of it might be loaded and so I just don't want to keep coming back and you know taking away your time or other people's time so I'll just ask a question now and then you can work through that and then address other people. So first of all this is a personal question because I as you know
@rabbimandyxDo some creative work too. Have you ever used AI for prompting? Meaning, have you ever had AI write a prompt? I found that to be useful, but I really don't do a lot of prompting for video. And then I'll just ask all three right now and I'll post them in the purple pill and you can look at them if you want to. What keeps you going when things get really challenging?
@rabbimandyxI'm not going to say why, but we know that things have been challenging before and it's been like, I don't know if I should keep doing this. I just want to know what your motivation is there. And then where would you like to go with this? So what change do you hope to see from your videos in the best case scenario in like the next five years?
@rabbimandyxSo those are my three questions. And I'll just post them in the purple pill so you can look at them if you need to.
@wearforbiddenAwesome. Well, I really appreciate that, Mandy. And I'm a big fan of yours too. So I'm probably one of your biggest fans on X. That really means a lot coming from you. Thank you. So the first question, if I'm not mistaken, was if I use AI to help me craft my prompts. So I try not to at first, and I try to, you know, write out the whole idea and the entire dialogue and, you know, all the camera cuts and stuff like that.
@wearforbiddenBut I will use AI to refine the prompt because sometimes I'll just vomit out a bunch of words onto my notepad and it'll be really difficult for an AI to comprehend what I'm saying if it's just a bunch of ideas and stuff on the screen. So I will use AI, whether it's Grok or ChatGPT and tell it like, hey, organize this a little bit better.
@wearforbiddenBut when it comes to the creative aspect of it, I'm not exactly sure how far AI has come with the creative aspect of things, but it is an incredible tool for organizing things and grammar checks and spell checks. So I think AI is really good to refine your prompts, and I'm pretty sure there's add-ons in AI that can make it really easy to actually prompt.
@wearforbiddenI haven't used them yet, but when watching YouTube videos on AI, I have seen people talk about that. So there might be someone here in this space right now that knows a little bit more about that than I do, but definitely no question about it. For refinement, definitely use AI to organize your work a little bit better.
@wearforbiddenAnd regarding the second question, I think it was about like the challenges that I've faced recently and stuff like that.
@wearforbiddenYeah.
@rabbimandyxSo the question was, what keeps you going when things get really challenging and you wonder, is it really worth it?
@wearforbiddenThat's a great question. When you make stuff that's controversial and you're going to get a lot of people that don't like it, especially when you are involved in political conversations and stuff like that. When I was making fun of liberals and Joe Biden when he was president during the pandemic and stuff like that, I'd get a bunch of hateful messages and threats, even death threats from
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@wearforbiddenThat did present a challenge as well because it's kind of demoralizing to see the same people that made fun of liberals and the woke left and all that degeneracy on that side and the cancel culture and that mob kind of take up the same tactics. That was kind of demoralizing and it's like, what the fuck? You guys didn't learn anything from all those people you were criticizing?
@wearforbiddenIt can get you down, but I try not to let it get to me. And, you know, you're gonna have haters no matter what you do. So how I keep going is I just, you know, I don't really have like a good answer for that, but I just keep going and I just keep doing what I'm doing. I keep doing what works. And I know for like every single hater or asshole that I deal with, there's probably like a hundred other people that really enjoy the work and that really get something out of it.
@wearforbiddenSo, you know, I'm always up to listen to constructive criticism, but other than that, I just keep going. It doesn't bother me. Like, life doesn't stop at X. It doesn't stop at the internet. People are going to say what they want to say. And, you know, I have a real life outside of X, so I could just shut it off, put my phone away and really not care.
@wearforbiddenAnd, you know, I think we all need to really value our mental capacity and protect it. If we give so much thought into people that try to ruin our day or, you know,
@rabbimandyxOK, and then the last question was just what what kind of change would you want to affect, let's say, in a best case scenario within, like, let's say, five years, if everything goes well and you're able to affect the change that you wanted, what would it look like?
@wearforbiddenThat's another really good question. You just got all the good questions, huh? Hmm. Well, what I want to see is more people actually creating and. I know I said this before. I don't want to sound like a broken record. It's really toxic to just consume all the time because I don't know if it's the algorithm or if it's just X or social media in general.
@wearforbiddenBut if you're just scrolling all the time, try to take a second and think about how you feel when you stop scrolling. You usually don't feel good or you get anxious or whatever. So it's a totally opposite feeling when you're actually creating something. Granted, you're going to get criticism and you're going to get backlash, but at least it's worth it.
@wearforbiddenAt least you put something out there for people to either enjoy or to think about it. So I want to see more people create and actually contribute to the truth and to putting the truth out there and to waking people up. I think it really does fucking matter, despite what anybody else says. You have a lot of doomers that say it doesn't matter.
@wearforbiddenThings are never going to change. Things are not going to get better. It doesn't happen overnight. And if What we're doing is actually useless, then the opposition wouldn't be panicking, they wouldn't be trying to shut us up, and they wouldn't be trying to step on us every time we make a ripple and we make noise. Just keep making dent after dent, and do it in your own way, whether it's funny, whether it's preachy, whether it's through research, just keep going and don't stop.
@wearforbiddenEventually it's going to ripple enough to make a real change, and it's It's not going to happen overnight. It's going to take time, but that's what I want to see in five years. I mean, we don't know what's going to happen with everything going on in the world, with all the wars. And, you know, it seems like everything is changing pretty damn fast.
@wearforbiddenSo, you know, it'd be foolish of us to take our foot off the gas right now. Just keep going.
@joann_marieThat was beautiful. Thank you so much for being. All right. Rabbi, how are you? He also makes amazing content.
@rabbijeffxHi, hi, how are you?
Speaker 2I have so many questions. Which rabbi? Okay, okay. Oh, we got two rabbis!
@joann_marieWe have three rabbis, also Mandy's a rabbi now. We have so many rabbis.
@malleusigDo you want to go first, Rabbi Jeff?
@rabbijeffxNo, yeah, I just want to say hi, but I just want to say, what do you think about my Grog question yesterday that says that Erika Kirk, you know... That she was the only widow in the world that was pushing, you know, was, yeah, you know what I mean.
@wearforbiddenYeah, I believe the question was, who's the only widow in the world that's trying to stop people from investigating the murder of her husband? Yeah, I mean, I don't know how you do it, but you've got Grok on a leash, and that is absolutely incredible. The fact that he just responds to you, and I'm saying he, like it's an actual fucking person, but you know what I mean.
@wearforbiddenThe fact that he actually responds to you and he's like, Erica Kirk, that's just really impressive.
@rabbijeffxThat turns for me to panic a lot of people, I guess, because I was shocked. I was fucking shocked, you know?
@wearforbiddenI mean, listen, you have one of the smartest AIs in the world telling you that this is the only widow in the world. That's pretty fucking groundbreaking.
@rabbijeffxYeah. But yeah, I don't want to say that I really like your videos, but my favorite videos, it's the one with Candace, yes, with the blue and red pill.
@wearforbiddenOh, thank you. That's my favorite.
@rabbijeffxYeah, so yeah.
@wearforbiddenI appreciate that. Thanks.
@rabbijeffxSure, yeah.
Ian MalcolmWell, let's go to Mr. Rat. We'll go... Wow, Mossad's going to be very happy about this. Let's go from one rabbi to another and go to Mr. [guest].
@malleusigBaruch Hashem. How are you doing, everyone?
@joann_marieBaruch Hashem, Rabbi.
@malleusigHow are you? Shalom.
Speaker 1Shalom.
@malleusigI have so many questions. I've been waiting for this space for a month. Because this is something that I really, really am interested in. And I also have my own videos. I have one that I want to play for you and get your feedback on if I can. I also have requests from Ian to play one of yours, which I will. And I just want to say thank you, first of all, for the C-Dance thing, because I've been wondering for a very long time which model you use.
@malleusigI have used a number of the models. I've used...
@malleusigI've used GPT, I've used VO, and I haven't been able to get the same quality you're getting. So knowing that it's C-Dance is a huge help. And knowing that it's within kind of my budget is also really, really encouraging. You are 100% correct when you talk about humor. Americans, and this is key for everyone to remember, Americans respond to humor more than anything else.
@malleusigIt is literally the way into our hearts. If you want to persuade, make it funny. This is why Jews leverage it so extensively in Hollywood. People like Mel Brooks. People have movies like Police Academy because they know that when we're watching a comedy, Our guard is down the farthest. We know that the path into our subconscious mind is so open and that's why they sneak all this messaging into those, into comedies.
@malleusigThe scene and everything, but like why they make so many comedies and why so many Jews are so comedic. It's also why they want, so famously, for anyone that's against their agenda to come across as hateful because Americans close up when they see that. We have this inbuilt defense against hateful speech. And so you're doing exactly the right thing.
@malleusigAnd I wanted to ask for the questions, the guardrails. The guardrails are actually a good thing. I did want to ask you about which political guardrails C-Dance has, being a Chinese company. Have you come across any blocks on mentions of our Ashkenazi friends, or is it mostly political things against the CCP that get blocked?
@wearforbiddenIt's pretty advanced. First of all, thanks. I appreciate the compliments. It's pretty advanced when it comes to guardrails. It's not just Chinese politics or anything. It'll scan faces when you upload references. You can't upload a reference of Donald Trump into C-Dance. So none of my videos that have Donald Trump in them were made in C-Dance.
@wearforbiddenAny videos that have Donald Trump or Benjamin Netanyahu... or anyone that's like really famous. I usually use Grok or Minimax H3. Those are the models I use for them. Seedance has a lot of guardrails for both text and for images. It'll say things like if part of your dialogue is like, I love Donald Trump, it'll say that and it'll let your character say that.
@wearforbiddenBut it's smart to the point where if you say like, fuck Donald Trump, it'll reject your prompt. And regarding our friends, as you mentioned, it's pretty lenient as long as you're clever about it and as long as you're funny about it and not very, how do I say, blunt about things.
@malleusigRight. And that's actually totally fine. What I've found is that the guardrails are actually your friends because not only do they force you to be clever about it, but the guardrails... So if you come out and just say things like, the Jews did 9-11, right? Then what happens is it tends, even in the audience and the listener, a hard wall comes down and you say, no, it's not true.
@malleusigThey don't listen to it. But if you make it funny, if you make it, if you get around the guardrails in a way that's funny, it's interesting because you're also getting around the conscious mind. You're getting around these installed blocks that have been put into people by our faulty educational system. And you actually get around,
@malleusigShit. I'm late for class.
@malleusigDid it work? What year is it?
Speaker 3What is that smoke? It smells like my Trapper Keeper.
@malleusigDude, that's impossible. How can you be me from the future? Top shelf in your closet, way back behind your old National Geographic magazines. I don't need to tell you what it is, but you and I both know- Okay, I believe you, I believe you. Just don't finish that sentence. So you can watch TV on your phone? I can order airplane tickets, listen to music, or watch literally any movie ever made.
@malleusigAll while I'm on the shitter at work. See that chick over there? You bang her a year from now, but she gets back with her ex like a week after. You ever notice how you never hear his speeches translated into English? They found that they have lower gray matter volumes in the amygdala, hippocampus, and prefrontal cortex compared with white children.
@malleusigIf you look really closely at the covers, you can see exactly what kind of books they were burning.
@malleusigYou ever wonder why Europeans would associate lying with having a long nose in the first place? They had brothels for what in Germany?
Speaker 3Drag Queen Story Hour? How the fuck is that even a thing?
Speaker 4Notice how there are lots of movies about solving your problems by punching and shooting at them.
@malleusigBut no movies about getting together every Saturday to share real estate tips?
Speaker 3None of them can do long division? We learned how to calculate per capita in like fifth grade.
@malleusigSo athletes and news anchors are literally dropping dead on camera and people just keep getting the shot?
@ronnienapolisWhat the fuck is a Bitcoin?
@malleusigDon't worry about that. Just make sure you buy at least a thousand bucks worth of it in 2009. You ever notice how the people that live farthest away from them are the least racist? And the people that live closest to them are the most racist? Wait. Did you say a bear and an eagle? So you came here to tell me about all this stuff so that when you go back, it changes the future?
@malleusigWho said I was going back?
@malleusigSo that's just like a collection of all these clips that I took that I had to basically find a way to get past the AI and it turned into that, right? So like, what's your feedback on that? Are there ways that I can make that funnier? Is there anything like, obviously you haven't seen the video yet, but like...
@wearforbiddenSo I just, I watched the video as you were playing it and I lined it up so that the audio was on point and that is really good. You said you made it, what, a year ago?
@malleusigYeah, December. You can see the date is December 12, 2025.
@wearforbiddenI mean, that's pretty impressive because AI video has come a long way since last year. I'm guessing you used Veo for that, right?
@malleusigThat was Veo, yeah.
@wearforbiddenYeah, yeah. I mean, that's really good. I was laughing throughout the whole time I was watching it. And it looks like it got a lot of views. It's really good. And you just had punchline after punchline in it. How long did it take you to write all of that?
@malleusigAbout a day.
@wearforbiddenI mean, that's really good work. I don't consider myself an expert by any means, but if something makes me laugh, then it's high-quality stuff. So that's really awesome.
@malleusigOh, awesome. All right. That's inspiration for me to keep going and making more of these then.
@wearforbiddenAbsolutely. And you're going to find, I don't know if you've generated recently, but you're going to find that it's so much easier to get things done now. And you're going to be really impressed with what you could put out.
@malleusigOkay, great. All right, well, thanks a lot. Do you want me to play? I'll play any of yours. Which ones? Ian, you had one that you wanted me to play?
Ian MalcolmI was thinking the recent one with Family Feud is rather funny from the audio as well, even without, because I know we don't have the video feed, but I thought that might be a good one just for anybody who hasn't seen it. I can't imagine that's the case, but nonetheless, I found this one so funny.
@malleusigIs that the 15-second one, the really short one?
Ian MalcolmJerry Springer is also excellent, but it requires some of the visuals with Trump in the booty shorts, but the Family Feud one doesn't necessarily.
@malleusigI have the Family Feud one queued up already, so I'll play that, and then we'll go to another one.
@malleusigHold on a second, I had it muted. Let's go back. Okay, here we go.
Speaker 5Name something the president can do to put America first.
Speaker 5Send more money to Israel. What? What? Did you really just say that?
@malleusigYep. My favorite were the Andrew Wilson ones. My favorite ones were like the ones right after the debate. But let's we'll go. The Jerry Springer was awesome. We'll play that one real quick.
Speaker 6Please meet Bebe. My guest today says he needs to keep his bitches in check. Please meet Bebe.
Speaker 4Thank you for being on the show. And what is going on with your situation? Well, first of all, Shalom Jerry.
Speaker 7Shalom. And with regards to my situation, well, you said it. I need to keep my bitches in check.
Speaker 7It's true. What can I say? It's true.
Speaker 4Don't we all? Well, then, why don't we bring out one of your bitches, Donald Trump.
Speaker 2I can't even look. This is unbelievable.
Speaker 6Wow. Well, baby.
Speaker 7What do you have to say to Mr. Trump? Donald, you know you're one of my favorite bitches, right? I love that you'll do anything for me. Anything for Israel. You've given me everything. Then why do you want to keep me in check, Daddy? That's a fair question. If he's given you everything, why do you want to keep him in check?
Speaker 7I want more. I want more blood. I want more war. I want f***ing Armageddon! I want hell on f***!
Speaker 8I just want to say, Mr. President, I still love you. Everyone needs to be kept in check every now and then and it is real noble for you to do it here on Jerry Springer!
Speaker 8Thank you.
@malleusigI've watched this video five times. Every time I see Donald Trump come out in the tight pants, I crack up.
@wearforbiddenYeah, that one was really fun to make. I watched a lot of Jerry Springer growing up, admittedly. Took a lot of sick days from school. Pretended I was sick, stayed home and watched Jerry Springer or Maury. And, you know, fun fact, I've actually been to the Jerry Springer show three times. um so that's that's been something i wanted to get out of the bag wait wait did you do a jerry jerry jerry i did i did and one of my friends gave like a final comment a final comment or something or like he insulted one of the guests um because you know they walk around and pass around the microphone and see who wants to say something so that was one hell of a trip and i'm like i i really have to make a jerry springer video eventually so that's where that came from
@malleusigThat's yeah, that's that's amazing. And also it's it's a good a good time to talk because Jerry Springer and who's another guy? They they were a huge contributor. Maury Povich, was that it?
Ian MalcolmYeah, Maury Povich. There were a couple of imitations, I suppose.
@malleusigThey're just huge contributors to the downfall of American culture, like you can almost track the downfall of American civilization. Absolutely. With their shows. And they're also huge Jews. which doesn't help with stereotypes at all. But it's also very, very good to talk about that kind of thing.
@wearforbiddenWell, I did see a video after I posted that. Somebody, I think, posted in the comments. It was Jerry Springer saying that, I'm paraphrasing here, but he said something that he's a major contributor to the downfall of the West.
@joann_marieHe was like, I'm the father of the downfall of American civilization or something like that. I'll post it in the purple pill.
@wearforbiddenThat's disgusting. I shook his hand and it felt very leathery and reptile-like. So, yeah, it's really, really, really odd of him to say that. But it also shows like self-awareness. You know, he knew what he was doing and he knew exactly what he was doing. If he said it's going to lead to the downfall of the West and he's the father of it.
@wearforbiddenIt's kind of crazy when you think of it that way, because he understood that his work was actually poison and he did it very proudly.
Ian MalcolmIt's also, Rabbi, it's interesting because you've got those two. You've got Howard Stern, who also same community. The thing that's curious is those, I feel like they were almost precursors to reality television, which was just another fast track into degeneracy, which then kind of begot influencer economies and all this other kind of stuff, right?
Ian MalcolmIt's like this continuous step down. And I do feel like Jerry Springer
@wearforbiddenand um and you know when me my when my friends and i were young we we did that a couple of times and eventually they asked us if we wanted to be guests on the show and like they spit out a couple of topics and i think what they offer guests is like a pack of cigarettes a hotel and some liquor or something like that and they give you a whole script and everything yeah so the entirety of it was uh was fake and uh it's basically professional wrestling the the most insidious thing about both that and reality tv
@malleusigI can't even, I can't overstate the damage that did to American culture.
@malleusiglike things like Honey Boo Boo and shits like you're looking at like oh no this is reality it's like no that's not real this is you're just taking the worst thing you can find putting on tv and then scripting it to make it worse and then convincing all these young people that are watching the tv that no this is actually how things are and this just makes it more likely they're going to emulate it so true so true i mean you had shows like 16 and pregnant and now i like hear about couples watching love island together and there's like
@wearforbiddenWe need- we- I'm sorry
@malleusigGo ahead. I was going to say, we need to do the same thing. We need to have a reality TV show called 14 and Pregnant based around a Hasidic family in Crown Heights.
Ian MalcolmWell, in a way, it's funny because, I mean, you've taken this medium and you've just flipped it on its head, right? And Forbidden, you're basically just showcasing the absurdity of MAGA today, which ironically, it does the exact inverse and that the people then recognize they have to look in the mirror and say, wait, this is what I am.
Ian MalcolmI need to become moralized. Thank you for joining us.
Ian MalcolmThank you so much for being here.
@wearforbiddenand like saying, why don't you do something or is anything ever going to change? Like, you know, yeah, eventually it might change, but not if you're not doing anything about it. So everybody should just jump in. We have all the tools we need. And this is like the most evidence we need that they are not really in control like we think they are.
@wearforbiddenThey don't control absolutely everything. They sure as hell want to and they sure as hell try. But the fact that just me, some regular guy, could make a bunch of videos and go absolutely viral is evidence that you could do it too, that anybody could do it too, and everybody should use their creative force for good. By the way, we have the Dan Bilzerian campaign page here, and he's a really interesting guy too, and he has his hand up.
@wearforbiddenIs there any chance we can get him in? Yeah, of course.
Ian MalcolmLet's go to him.
@electbilzerianHey, what's up, guys? Man, I'm so glad to... To hear Forbidden on Spaces, I've been waiting a long time too along with Rabbi. He made some really good points that I wanted to reiterate that I've learned from Forbidden since I've known him. It's funny, I just wanted to say first that it's crazy the coalition that Dan's campaign brought together.
@electbilzerianSome of the talent that just... was kind of brewing and lit on fire in the beginning of that campaign. It was just wild to see. Campaigns are, it's not always about, you know, who wins the election. It's kind of like a, it's a very martial war-like time where people come together and focus their energy, their creative talents towards a goal.
@electbilzerianAnd it was just all the people who, who just went from another level was so cool to see. I've never seen anything like it. And I got to get to know him early on. We became fast friends. And I'm not even surprised where his talent has taken him because with AI, the technology moves so fast. By the time you get used to it, it's already changed.
@electbilzerianAnd seeing him just... polish and polish. Like if you just study his little shorts, there's so much art. It was the first time I've ever thought of AI as being a real art form because the intention, the nuance, the comedic timing, you know, so much was limited by budget, what you could pull off inside of these like complicated programs.
@electbilzerianAnd now you can kind of do anything, but there's still that human element that you can't replicate. AI's never gonna put together something like that. The comedic timing, the nuance. If you just study the sound, his sound production is crazy. So it's just a massive talent. And like Rabbi said, one of the coolest things about his style is that it's so disarming.
@electbilzerianWhereas Like me, you know, a lot of people like we tend to be like more lobbying missiles and more aggressive. He has this disarming quality about his comedy that is like really inspiring to see. And even with like Magatard, like Magatard came out of nowhere. And it's funny, I want to hear you talk about Magatard more because I imagine it's weird because sometimes you'll make something and you'll think like, oh, this is going to be a banger.
@electbilzerianand a lot of times it's these like weird little things you do that end up igniting and going wild and you know like when I first watched Mockatard I was like you know this is this is really funny and like I was shocked you know three hours later I'm like dude this is like 10 million views and then then you got to see the right wing adopt him so he he created this character that ended up being like a Trojan horse it was so disarming
@electbilzerianthat the Maga Rite ends up adopting him. And that was, I just never seen anything like that happen in real time. And so it's just a testament to the like authenticity and the style that the rabbi mentioned about having some of the guardrails and being subtle. I've learned from that like a ton. So I would love to hear more about
@electbilzerianWhat are your thoughts about him being adopted by the right wing and seeing him become this icon on both sides of the aisle of the culture war? You know, it's crazy because I don't hate the right wing and I don't hate...
@wearforbiddenThe people that follow Maga and that still claim Maga. When I made Magatard, and I didn't even call him Magatard, that name was just given to him. I didn't really even give him a name. Some people called him Magatard, some people called him Goyslob or Goyslug, which I thought was pretty hilarious. One guy called him Uncle Ham, so I'm like, Uncle Ham is fucking hilarious too.
@wearforbiddenWhen I made him, I just wanted to highlight the hypocrisy. in some of the MAGA circles, especially like the big influencers. And, you know, the flock cameras and the Iran war. It's like, it's stuff that I expect, you know, I expect a lot of these MAGA people to kind of just come out and say like, all right, we were kind of duped on this.
@wearforbiddenBut the fact that they just kept doubling down and basically adopting everything that Trump and his administration said, it just kind of made me sick to my stomach. And I'm like, you guys are the same people that were calling out the bullshit during COVID and during all that vaccine crap. And I expect a little bit better from you because, you know, I am a conservative.
@wearforbiddenI'm not really liberal at all. And I just I wanted to see where they were at. And I didn't really put much thought into it besides just mocking the whole situation. So there was no like I didn't plot it out for it to be a Trojan horse or anything like that.
@wearforbiddenSo it really did blow my mind that they kind of adopted him. But at the same time, I kind of saw the appeal in Magatard. He's a pretty endearing character. He's kind of a likable character despite the retardation. So I kind of understood it after a while. And everybody's free to do whatever they want with Magatard. People are always messaging me asking if they can use him in videos.
@wearforbiddenAnd please go for it. Magatard is for everyone. He belongs to us all.
@electbilzerianYeah, he's so endearing and charming. And even when the right uses him in their own way, it's also endearing and charming. And it's weird how there's also this quality where it's almost like you can kind of laugh with those people again. Because, like you said, you don't hate those people. They're kind of on our side. And a lot of people sometimes get caught up in the cult of personality around people like Donald Trump and
@electbilzerianAnd it's hard for them to let go when we form friendships and parts of our identities around these political movements. And so I get that.
@electbilzerianI find myself learning from Magatart and rooting for him on his journeys of just kind of supporting the candidate who he loves, who he's doing the thing, and also sort of witnessing the odd stuff around him. at the same time and so it's it's just honestly just a work of genius and I know it's weird you can't script this stuff out you don't really know how it's gonna happen but just how you've played off that very like you know innocent initial video and and weaved him throughout these other little storylines and it's really brilliant man so
@electbilzerianI just want to say, like, I'm so, like, you're one of my favorite people I've met through this summer with Dan's campaign. And it's just an honor to kind of, like, see what you've pulled off. And I don't know, it's just, I can't wait to see what's next. And even everyone else here, like, everyone who, you know, Ian, Ian's like, what you're doing with these spaces, brother, is like...
@electbilzerianLegend. It's mind blowing. It's mind blowing. And, you know, Rabbi Jeff, you know, like we're all playing with these new tools and watching us go against the most powerful, well-funded social engineers in the world. And we're kind of having fun doing it. Thank you so much for being here.
@electbilzerianYou're an awesome person. I hope you do this more often. You definitely should.
@wearforbiddenDude, I really appreciate that, man. And anybody listening, give his page a follow because he puts out absolute bangers too. One of the best people I've met on here as well. And you kind of sparked an idea in me, and it might sound unrelated, but to anybody listening, or even if there's like feds listening or Hasbara agents or whatever you are, I have an idea for you.
@wearforbiddenand you know maybe you should listen very carefully instead of trying to counter us or counter my work or anybody here's work with like these snaky tactics and evil and deceit why don't you try to do what got you most of this power in the first place in the media try to be funny try to counter us with your own creativity instead of uh instead of you know going after people as individuals and and all that like
@wearforbiddenI mean, shit, they might just nuke all our fucking houses now. Or like, say Hamas is hiding under all of our houses. But, you know, I'd much prefer you guys try to be funny in return. You know, let's talk shit.
@joann_marieLet's go! Thank you so much for being on. That is amazing. I haven't seen anything good from them, like ever. They just, they can only lie, you know.
Ian MalcolmAnd Forbidden, I'm kind of curious about that because... It almost feels like the reason that they can no longer make anything good, it's not because they don't have the budgets or the talent. I mentioned Tom Cruise and the Maverick film, right, Top Gun Maverick, which was, it was very formulaic, straightforward, it was good, decent quality entertainment that didn't have a lot of the undertones and the demoralization, right?
Ian MalcolmIt seems like with everything else that is coming out of Hollywood, they're in this Catch-22 where they're like, All right, we need to take back the culture war and become popular again, but we're really still insisting on demoralizing everybody. And so they can't, right? There's no ability for them, with the rare exception, like I said, of maybe the Tom Cruise film here or there, right?
Ian MalcolmFor them to do anything that's remotely endearing and by comparison, you're just out there making happy, fun, friendly, comedic content, right? That is trying to just share these truths. you know in a medium that you're familiar with and it it really is to the campaigns account right it really is wild to think that they literally have everything they've got every network every medium right if they've got a social platform where maybe like TikTok where they're not able to manipulate the algorithm enough they just buy it right they control everything and they're like oh no here come these guys with some memes and a guy with an AI tool making videos it's it's
Ian MalcolmUnbelievable. It's a trillion-dollar empire against some guys that are like, yeah, I guess I got some spare tokens with my AI engine, right? It's crazy.
@wearforbiddenYeah, I mean, that's so true. And it's that desperation for control that just makes their content and their work absolutely suck these days. Like, I can't watch a modern movie. I mean, I've lost track of how many times I've watched Gladiator or Braveheart, and I've had to, you know, you have to go back 20 years to watch one of those movies and really get a good one.
@wearforbiddenSo, you know, maybe if they let go of trying to control everything and also that superiority complex, I mean, the whole, like, we're better, we're chosen and all of that, like, that's reflected upon in their work and how they insult everyone's intelligence. Like, you know, they include degeneracy and everything to the point where it's so obviously an agenda.
@wearforbiddenYou know, this is like, we don't want to beat a dead horse here by talking about the woke stuff, but... Not every movie needs to have a tranny kissing a guy or two gays making out or lesbians or something like that. Unless it's a part of your plot and it's a movie about gays, then by all means, go for it. But when it's so obviously an agenda and you're trying to divide people, it's basically over for them unless they go back to trying to make good stuff without having their agenda in it and trying to control everyone and poison everyone.
Ian MalcolmNo, it really does feel that way. And some wonderful commentary there, Mr. Bilzerian campaign and fantastic additions. So why don't we, we'll continue right along. I know that we've got Died Suddenly up here. Talk about content creators and I guess the author behind the documentary. Any thoughts or comments for We're Forbidden as obviously a person that's very familiar with the medium?
@diedsuddenly_Hey, Forbidden. Hey, thank you, Ian. This is Edward. You know, we're big fans of producing propaganda. You know, that's the game we're in. Whether it be propaganda hitting our enemy and kind of highlighting different things. So, you know, we've caught eye of what you're doing and it's very impressive. I sent you a DM, too.
@diedsuddenly_I'd like to talk offline to, you know, off to the space and stuff. But would you be willing to go through a little bit like how you do what you do? Like the process? From beginning to end, a little bit. You don't have to go into too much detail, but we would be really interested to hear a little bit of a breakdown of how you take it from a parody about the 14-year-old girls having sex with people and that kind of stuff.
@diedsuddenly_That idea that I came up with earlier would actually be a pretty funny video, frankly. Take us through a little bit of how you start it. You do it pretty quickly, too, because you got one out of the Candice thing within 24 hours. So that's stuff we're definitely intrigued to learn more about.
@wearforbiddenYeah, I appreciate that. Totally. So I went through it earlier in heavy detail, but basically it starts out as an idea and something that really caught my attention. Usually it's something in the news or something in the media, and I'll decide which characters I want in it.
@wearforbiddenand and yeah after that it's basically just generating different scenes different camera angles and finding the right score the right type of music to go with it and I found it very like important to not be a perfectionist when it comes to this kind of stuff because if you want to put out content as frequently as I do or as many of these other great creators here do you can't like
@wearforbiddenYou can't get hung up on little things and end up taking forever to put something out because by then it's not as relevant or it's not going to hit like it would.
@diedsuddenly_You mentioned references. You're talking about taking pictures and that kind of stuff, loading it into the LLMs. Are you having luck using the offline LLMs or are you using the token-based, the cloud-based ones?
@wearforbiddenI'm using token-based or cloud-based ones. And when it comes to references, that's a good question. So with these videos, you could use references for characters. And I saw somebody in the comments ask about voices and how to keep them consistent. I'm not very consistent with voices. I do get lucky with a lot of them. But you can also add references for voices when you're using Seed Dance.
@wearforbiddenYou can add references for environment and setting. You could add references for wardrobe. And then as you're typing in the prompt, you can tag the reference you're using. So for example, if character A is your first reference, you tag it as image 1 and Cdance will know what you're talking about. If the setting is image 3, you would tag it in the prompt as character A, which is image 1, goes into the bar, which is at image 3.
@wearforbiddenSo it's a lot of tagging and The AI is smart enough to understand after you've tagged it a couple of times, whether it's the character or the environment or the voice. And that's how you get consistency. And it takes a little bit of practice. I'm not going to fool anyone. You're going to spend a lot of money on trial and error.
@wearforbiddenMaybe not a lot of money, but you'll spend a couple of hundred bucks on trial and error and making really shitty generations before you finally figure out a workflow that's good for you and that meets your vision.
@diedsuddenly_On characters, I guess you obviously had some luck with... Getting the characters to be consistent. That's based around the references, right?
@wearforbiddenAbsolutely. So what I've seen some people do is they make character sheets. They have like an AI image generator, give them a character sheet. So they'll upload like Magatard, for example, and they'll say, hey, give me a character sheet for Magatard. There's a reference image here of him and give me like what he looks like from behind and from the side and with his hat on, without his hat on.
@wearforbiddenSo if you're really detailed about things, it'll work out in your favor.
@diedsuddenly_Awesome. Thanks for your time. I'll check out the beginning of the space since you went into depth.
@wearforbiddenFor sure. And I just gave you a follow back. I'll check on that DM as well.
Speaker 1Thank you, brother.
Ian MalcolmWonderful. And thank you for the questions. We'll certainly, for everybody, just as a reminder, the space recorded, so everybody can go back, listen to that, and the overview on some of the tech, the tools, and the workflows is in there. But as was just demonstrated, if you do have specific additional questions, feel free to put those in the purple pill.
Ian MalcolmI'll make sure that... Anything if somebody does have a technical question that we don't address on the space that at least I'll try and track down answer for you from Mr. Forbidden here, folks. So we'll certainly try as best we can. Knowing that we got a lot of hands, Forbidden, just wanted to do a rough little pulse check with you in terms of your timing availability.
Ian MalcolmI didn't want to overextend past what you were anticipating or available here for.
@wearforbiddenum i really appreciate that thanks for being very considerate and also thanks for having this space um it's it's really awesome and i'm meeting like some of the coolest people so so cheers for that um i i think i've got about like 10 minutes left but i i do want to like get to everybody who's had their hand up for a while like we got my boy matt baker we have noxi um and a bunch of other like very familiar faces so i do want to hear from everyone
Ian MalcolmWell, wonderful. So we'll try to keep it a little bit tighter so that we can, rather than having one or two more questions, maybe we can go through everybody and make sure we connect all those dots. So why don't we start with Matt Baker? We'll just kind of work our way through. And again, we'll try to maximize the 10 minutes or so that we have with you here.
@slave_2_libertyAll right. What up, man? I wish I got in a little earlier when there was more time. But dude, you're the man. I'm so proud of you. People don't know, he was there during COVID putting out parody t-shirts since the very beginning, anti-COVID, anti-9-11. Everything you can think of in the conspiracy world, he had a t-shirt for it and they were all awesome.
@slave_2_libertyWe used to be homies through Instagram back in the day. It's just amazing to see him blow up the way he's done. I think... When a lot of the haters come in and they say, well, you're just using AI. You didn't write that or you didn't do that. Here's what you don't realize is you basically now have theoretically the ability to make anything you can imagine.
@slave_2_libertySo now it exposes the imagination of those people and those haters. Because if they're so smart and it's so easy, then what are you imagining, like he was saying? He wants to have that battle. But the thing is, like a stand-up comedian, He goes into a room and he can bomb and he can bomb and he can say something true like you know about how guys feel about women or about politics and the room will laugh you can't you can't force that that's what it is is it's a hidden truth that is exposed in public and it creates a camaraderie and that's what he's done with Magotard he's created this camaraderie of people that were kind of lost and demoralized by this trillion dollar system by the Jerry Springers and stuff which is interesting you guys brought up
@slave_2_libertyBut he lets everybody know that finally when the whole room is laughing at the joke, it's like, hey, we're not alone. This is great. And with his work, and I mean, even the LEGO videos, there is now a desperation on the alternate side of this issue. And the enemy is now scrambling. And they actually are putting out videos.
@slave_2_libertyAnd they're really crap. And you can tell they're really forced. And there's like a guy like Netanyahu's like, I want something funny. Make them funny. Make fun of them now. There's just, there's no soul to them. There's no truth to them. They're mean spirited. And they just, they just don't hit. None of the, none of the punchlines drop.
@slave_2_libertyIt just doesn't work. And so one more thing. I don't know how you guys got him on. I tried to, I had him booked on freaking Infowars and he wouldn't even take the, take the interview. And I wanted him to come on my show, and he didn't come on. So I don't know how you pulled that one off, Ian. Kudos to you. But I am having a show, and it's funny that you guys are doing this show now that me and my buddy Luke Slywaker are doing on Saturday, which is going to be basically Saturday morning adult cartoons, where I go through the week and I find all my favorite funny AI clips and a couple of political clips.
@slave_2_libertyAnd then we're going to laugh and we're going to talk about it. But we're also going to have creators on. Hopefully Forbidden, now that he's out from behind the shadows, can come on my show at some point. And I do a little bit of this work myself, so I may not be the greatest, but if you're just trying to get your toe in the water, I know plenty to get you going, and we're going to have other creators on that are going to be sharing their tips and their work, too.
@slave_2_libertySo I think there's a little Magotard in all of us now, and I think that's why we love him, because a lot of us were Magotards at once. It's kind of like Magatard's Anonymous, you know? We're just like, you know, I was a Magatard, or I guess once a Magatard, always a Magatard. But, yeah, man, I think when they tried to say that they loved Magatard, that, again, was desperation.
@slave_2_libertyThey know that that's the only way to win that. For me, I haven't seen them come out and do any more We Love Magatard. That failed. and Forbidden is just dominating and it's just amazing. I love you, bro. And I love everyone in the space. Thanks for having me.
@wearforbiddenLove you too, man. Thank you. That was awesome. Thank you very much, man. And I probably will go back into the shadows, but I'll definitely jump on your show, man.
Ian MalcolmAnd I can take zero credit for... Yeah, you can cover your face if you want. You should get a rabbit hand. This is all thanks to Mandy and Forbidden's, let's just say, generosity to come on and kind of share this. And it is. The thing that I find so wild about it, I anticipated talking a little bit about the tech. The idea of the inspiration that you are, I think, as a creator, for everybody listening to go and try to harness that spark within themselves, that's the thing I didn't see necessarily coming into this.
Ian MalcolmAnd I'm so excited and enthused by it. Forbidden, I really do think that that's what separates us. Matt just talked about that idea that the opposition, their content doesn't hit because it's not true. It's not based on anything good or real, right? It's just trying to force function their worldview that we all see the heirs in.
Ian MalcolmAnd so what you're doing, it really is, it's changing the world in whatever small way that becomes the butterfly that changes it in an immense way. And I really... That idea of being prospectively seen by billions, let's say a billion people, right? It's unbelievable the impact that you've had through this humor. But I love having you up here, Matt.
Ian MalcolmLet's go to, I know we got a handful of other people. Let's go to Noxy and then we'll check in with the governor who had his hand up and go to Mr. Godfroy.
@knoxieluvHi, Ian, JoAnn. Thanks for having me up here. I have been a fan of these videos and they are absolutely amazing. So congratulations on that. But after hearing you in this space, I am a fan of you as a person. I am just so impressed with your humbleness and your articulation and your kindness and not wanting to gatekeep this talent and sharing it with everybody so everybody else can try to do the same thing, although it is going to be a huge competition.
@knoxieluvto actually compete with Magatard. I do think, but my favorite one is literally whenever Magatard got thrown out of the airplane into the war, up to Pickles. That was, I lost it on that. But I do think that just an idea, there has to be something with Israel or Netanyahu or Ben-Gavir yelling, it's Hamas, they're under the, you know, you gotta get them, it's Hamas, it's Hamas.
@knoxieluvand then I think it would be funny with like even what Matt was just saying with like the uh their videos like missing like make it funny make it funny and then Hamas like popping out and being like you missed me and like he just continues trying to get them and he can't get them like whack-a-mole I don't know if that makes any sense at all, but in my weird mind it does right now.
@knoxieluvBut I just wanted to say thank you for what you're doing. The world needs you right now. Like, not just our country, but the world does. There's just so much negativity and hatred and vitriol going around that we really need to spread more smiles, more laughs. And we need to laugh at each other and, you know, at ourselves sometimes.
@knoxieluvLike, it's okay. And it's better to do that than to just lead off with all of this hate all of the time. So you're needed in the world right now and you're at the right place at the right time and I appreciate you.
@wearforbiddenWell, I appreciate you too and that was a pretty funny idea. And the thing about these ideas is sometimes when we speak them out, they don't sound funny. Like, sometimes I'll go to my wife and I'll be like, hey, so I have this idea where I'm gonna do this and I'm gonna do that. And, like, I'll spit out the whole idea to her and she'll have, like, a straight face and be like, ah, okay.
@wearforbiddenAnd I'll be like, okay, maybe I'm not too good at telling the story.
@knoxieluvI'm terrible at telling the story, but I see it in my head and I'm like, he would understand this because he sees this stuff in his head, too.
@wearforbiddenExactly, exactly. And then I'll make the actual video and she'll end up laughing and I'm like, see, it was pretty funny.
@knoxieluvThanks for having my back on that. I appreciate it. See what a nice guy you are. Thank you guys. You got it. Thank you. He's so awesome.
Ian MalcolmNo, and that's the thing. The energy, it's so funny because... on one hand, right, we've got the people that say that they're the righteous and the greatest ally and you go into their spaces and it's all, ah, we hate these, and then the people that say that we're hateful come in here and we're like, we love one another, yeah.
Ian MalcolmIt is, it's a genuine love for just trying to create something good, right? And when you look around, you want the world to be better for not just yourself and your community, but for everybody as a result. It comes off that way. And I do, Noxie, this is a wonderful comment because, Forbidden, I do think within your video there is, it's just that positivity, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd I think it's why the Magatard character, even though he is a little slow, you see him rolling around the deck of the Titanic. It's like, oh, that cute little guy, right? And I think that's in some way maybe a small manifestation of the positivity that you're bringing to everything, even the slow MAGA fans that are out there.
Ian MalcolmBut let's go to AG and then we'll go to Godfroy and then perhaps go to Michael if we have time.
@gouvergnarHey, what's up, man? Nice, nice, nice work. I come from more of like the journalism side of things and trying to put the facts and stuff together for other people. And I find that I have to train with... I think that's what you're talking about is the reference frames and I guess creating from the creative standpoint that you work from, right?
@gouvergnarAnd that's kind of given the context of the thing doesn't screw around on you and start making stuff up.
@wearforbiddenYeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Were you finished there, by the way?
@gouvergnarYeah, I was kind of just trying to learn a little bit about the video side of things. You know, doing a bit of my work was more of analysis of the history and then re-articulating that for, you know, repackaging here and making it shareable. And one of the cool angles I found lately, but I'm a stickler for it, so I haven't done it, I haven't released it yet, but I want to create a front page newspaper with all this ridiculous shit, you know, because going to journalism school,
@gouvergnarI can see what should be reported and how it should be reported and the questions that should be asked and the answers that should be rejected. And none of that is happening. And so what I want to do is start putting out newspaper covers like true journalism, real, you know, real process, inverted pyramid, everything verified, quadruple validated quotes.
@gouvergnarYou know, you get from transcripts like this shit is real. But like I said, I'm a heavy stickler and, you know. I've done copy editing, so everything I want to keep touching up. But heavy, heavy training material because otherwise the thing won't even do it. You have to force the information into it because it won't admit that your point is correct and that it's going to admit something else.
@gouvergnarAnd so you have to get around that by training it. But I think maybe in your world, it's more of a creative and under the guise of fiction. And so you can get kind of by some of that stuff but i'm curious if you have to you find yourself having to train the robot when you start crossing some of those thresholds and and illustrating facts that are forbidden facts you know like i mean say forbidden because it's you know what i mean yeah i completely understand what you're saying and i really respect people in your field because of the heavy lifting and the countless hours of research and
@wearforbiddenAnd I think we do have that in common and we both see that it's so like integral to the process to build a bulletproof foundation when you're creating. So from my end, it's like having the right references and the right prompt and like figuring out absolutely everything before you hit that generate button. And it takes a lot of back and forth with the robot before it finally starts to understand you and
@wearforbiddenYou build that kind of mutual understanding with the AI about what you want and what you want to do every time. So yeah, references are the foundation. Generate stills of your scenes. Generate character sheets, character references. Generate the setting. Generate everything so that you're not wasting credits and you're not wasting your time, which is the most valuable thing, essentially.
@wearforbiddenand I'm sure it's the same for you when you're doing research. You want your articles and your journalism to be bulletproof so that no one can really refute it if you're presenting all the truth and all the evidence and finding all the holes that people might find in your stuff. So yeah, totally, man. And hey, listen, when you do make that newspaper cover, I'll be the first one to buy one of them if they're for sale or whatever it is.
@gouvergnarHell no, nothing's for sale here. It's all free. It's all for the truth. It's all for what's good. Right on, man. And I just want to say for everyone else and kind of reiterate a couple of things that you said was if you're not quite sure about the specificity and the terminology, go look it up in another robot or in another frame and then come back and use the correct vernacular because you're going to get the best result by being as accurate as possible.
@gouvergnarAnd you're going to get rid of all of that I guess leeway for the robot to fuck it up, you know what I mean? And then second is be incredibly detailed like you're saying, like don't hit that button until you're absolutely sure because what you do is you create rapport with the thing, you know? And then you gotta start over or undo stuff and it gets real messy.
@gouvergnarSo be very careful and do go outside and understand what terminology and what... What process and what definitions if you're not quite sure because you get a tenfold better product when you actually go through and take your time and do that kind of shit. So I appreciate you telling everyone that and I hope you inspired some folks to really take up their craft and join the fight in however you can because getting eyeballs on all this stuff and the facts, man, I say it's a ratchet.
@gouvergnarIt doesn't go backwards. It cannot go backwards. It just keeps clicking forward. So good shit, and I appreciate you and the work you do.
@wearforbiddenThe appreciation is mutual. Thank you. And you said that last part way better than I could have. You explained it spot on, so thank you for that.
Ian MalcolmWonderful, AG. Let's go to Godfroy, and then we'll go to Michael for a final question.
@g0dfr0yThank you, Ian, and thank you so much, Forbidden, for all the work that you do. I was going to ask you a question, but it's a little too open-ended for your time here. I know you've got to get going. So I wanted to thank you for doing God's work because that is what you're doing. You're beating them at their own game. You're using humor to shatter their spells and their psyops.
@g0dfr0yAnd we deeply, deeply appreciate you for it. And thank you for all that you do. I have a question for you. It's a simple favor to ask of you and there's no pressure of any kind. I'm organizing a campaign called Stop the Goyslop to boycott the Goyslop and shut down Satanic Hollywood. to end Satanic Hollywood, to cut the cord to Netflix, Amazon, Hulu, Paramount, all that stuff.
@g0dfr0yI'm going to be hosting a big space. I was going to originally do it on Sunday, but I'm going to do it on Saturday. If you could come to the space, I'd appreciate it, but could I possibly DM you about making some kind of promo video for the campaign? And again, no pressure of any kind. I know you're busy.
@wearforbiddenWell, first of all, thank you very much. I really appreciate it. And I've seen some of your work as well. So you're also doing great work. And I'm not just saying that. And yeah, I'll give you a follow back right now and we could definitely talk about it. So I really appreciate that.
@g0dfr0yAwesome. Thank you so much, brother. I appreciate it. And yeah, just I think that... Not only can we take over content-wise, but we can shut, like doing what you're doing with creating content, we can shut Hollywood down if enough of us are serious about cutting the cord, which I think we're at that point. I think that we can do it.
@g0dfr0yThank you.
Ian MalcolmNo, great question. And that space, certainly everybody should make sure to attend, support, and just the concept in general. And as Mr. Truth Teller would always say, you can choose whether it's in your pantry, your television, or the things that you do with the device that you might be holding right now. You're a couple clicks or fingers away from grabbing the poison or the fuel.
Ian MalcolmSo always reach for the fuel. Get rid of the slop as best you can, whether it's the Twinkies and the HoHos or the garbage on television. So just try to find things that you can better occupy your time and your body with. Wonderful suggestion, Godfroy. Absolutely in alignment there. Let's go for a final question to Mr. Michael.
Speaker 9Hello.
Speaker 2Hi, welcome.
Speaker 9Hey, everyone. I really don't have any questions, man. I just wanted to tell everybody how much I appreciate you and the work that you're doing. And please, please do not underestimate the importance of your work from the bottom of my heart. I thank you everyone for all that you're doing to wake up this sleeping population.
Speaker 9That's it. Thank you so much.
@wearforbiddenThank you. Thank you very much. I really appreciate that.
Ian MalcolmI love and what a wonderful actually set of kind of closing remarks and a question to end on there, Michael, or a statement to end on because that's what came out of this. Right, and Forbidden, I had seen all of the obvious talent that you possess, the incredible output that it generated, but the energy that we found in this room was so spectacular and it really is, it's a manifestation not only of all the things that you are putting out and that you are, but I think in a way it serves as a microcosm for what it is that all of us are collectively coming together to build, which is
Ian MalcolmJust like Michael was just sharing, right? It's good. It's positive. It's loving. And isn't it ironic, right, that it's viewed as domestic terrorism, I suppose, by the powers that be. And again, it just highlights how absurd their whole machine is, right? And I've often joked for a bit, and you might like this, I've often joked that, you know, they're going to accuse us of being all these things.
Ian MalcolmThe general public will hear more and more of our voices and then they're going to look over and they're going to see basically a bunch of Care Bears doing the Care Bears stares, you know, singing Michael Jackson's Heal the World. And it's like, I don't think those are the bad guys. And I know it sounds really silly, but in a sense, that's kind of what we're doing.
Ian MalcolmWe're just saying, look, this is truth. This is what is. This is really not going well. We want to go a different direction. And the group of people that are in charge seem completely indifferent. to the suggestions that we're making, which are based on our lived experiences, they're getting worse every single year, right?
Ian MalcolmAnd so it is, I do think that we're building something that we can't fully comprehend and that the videos that you've been making, Mr. Forbidden, they are nuclear weapons. in our arsenal, my friend. You are the heavy artillery on the entertainment side of whatever it is that we're all collectively contributing to. I'm just so humbled that you joined us.
Ian MalcolmI'm so grateful to Mandy for helping to set this all in motion. And I'm so grateful for everything that you are, everything that this entire collective is, and all that I can... I sincerely believe that we're going to continue to do and as a result that we're going to continue to win with.
@wearforbiddenI can't emphasize enough how blown away I've been by everybody's kind words and their appreciation. And I hope, God, I hope I don't sound dry because the appreciation is mutual. And seriously, thank you guys for putting this together and hanging out with me tonight. It means a lot that these ridiculous videos have made you laugh and hearing that some of you feel inspired to make your own stuff is even better.
@wearforbiddenand I can't promise that I'll answer every DM but if you have any questions or or need help or something like that I do go through my inbox sometimes and you know sometimes people's messages land in the request folder or the other folder and it might take me a while to see it but you know I'll try to help as much as I can I have a lot more ridiculous shit that I want to make
@wearforbiddenAnd maybe not all of it will be as groundbreaking and some of it might make you go like, what the hell did this guy just make? But I hope you stick around for all of it, both the good stuff and the slop as well. Because, I mean, God, I just love to make slop sometimes. And regarding what you said, Ian, about making the right choices and not choosing the poison all the time, you said that so well.
@wearforbiddenAnd I could do a better job at that, you know, with the food, the food that I choose, the music I might listen to or the movies or whatever it may be. It's just about those little choices we make every day. And that's truly how we free ourselves from this from this matrix. And, you know, if the opposition comes here and sees us singing Kumbaya and acting like a bunch of Care Bears, I mean, that's how you win.
@wearforbiddenThat's really how you win. Nobody here is encouraging violence. Nobody's encouraging hate. Thanks to you for putting this space together. Thanks to Mandy for putting this space together, JoAnn, and everybody that spoke to me. It's really an honor. I don't really do stuff like this often.
@wearforbiddenThank you.
Ian MalcolmOf course. And you are always welcome, as are all those that are just trying to make the world a better place. And look, we'll continue banding together as absolute best as we can. And in doing so, we will lift up all of those, both those that have been extremely viral, like Mr. Ware, Forbidden. And I really do think that if we look at the
Ian MalcolmThe year in review, right, if we try to understand what is it that were the sparks of this movement that really accelerated things forward, you're going to be the Magatard himself as kind of a microcosm for all of it. He is like our, right now I feel like he's almost the mascot for the JQ movement merely because he mocks all of that which is our opposition.
Ian MalcolmAnd so, you know, you're moving the ball forward in ways that that we can't possibly comprehend. But the most important thing to take out of this is both to celebrate that success while also, as you've just done so majestically, while inspiring others to follow in suit. And that if we all just do those little pieces, our little parts, that we will continue making a far bigger difference than we can ever fathom.
Ian MalcolmAnd let them come at us with all the censorship, all the suppression. The thing that's going to make that certainly not work is if to forbidden suggestion if all of us are doing our piece, right? They can nuke his handle. They can nuke my handle. They can nuke everybody that's up here on the panel. They can't nuke all of us, right?
Ian MalcolmSo if one or two or 100 people end up leaving this room and say, you want to know what? I'm going to go give that a try, right? And they're going to dabble around with those tools. Well, then we become force multipliers that now enable their suppression Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Ian Malcolmtwice, and technically, I suppose, three times. We want to include the, what do you call it, the sequel-sequel trilogy, right? The Death Star didn't work out. The Rebels won. And I really believe that if we band together, right, we're going to find the Han Solos or the Luke Skywalkers of our movement, like where Forbidden certainly is, right, creating these unbelievable pieces of The Force.
Ian MalcolmAnd I think that's what this ultimately tapped into, right? We talked about that idea that you are... You're in touch with something that is out there. It's in the ether. You're bringing that to life. That is basically our own rendition of The Force against the evil empire. But I see that we've got Mandy back up here who has her hand up.
Ian MalcolmI'd love to go to her.
@submission2tIan, are you able to see my hand? Ian?
Ian MalcolmI can, yeah.
@submission2tOh, sorry. I wanted to get in a quick word before Forbidden leaves, if that's okay. Okay. Well, thanks. First and foremost, love your content. And I pray to God that God blesses you, your time and your life for you to make a lot more videos because they're phenomenal. Throughout history, two groups of people have almost always been able to tell the truth in the face of any tyrannical system and get away with it.
@submission2tAnd they've been the comedians and the poets. So you are doing God's work in what you've put together. Please don't stop. And I'm glad you shared how you're doing it so others can actually pursue and do the same. And last, a quick question for you. What platform do you use to edit your videos and pull them together? And I also have a really funny video idea that I've kind of drafted some of the scripts.
@submission2tIf you're interested, I'm more than happy to share it with you.
@wearforbiddenWell, thank you for that. I'm glad you got to speak. I did see your hand there up for a little bit. Regarding the platform I use to edit, I use CapCut because it's the easiest and the quickest. If I want to make something a little more technical, I'll use Premiere or After Effects. But most of all, it's CapCut. It's got transitions built into it.
@wearforbiddenIt's got audio tools. It's got absolutely everything. So CapCut is definitely the way to do it. And regarding your idea, I'm giving you a follow right now so your DM can go straight to my main inbox. Let's talk about it, man. And again, thank you for the kind words. It means a lot. God bless you too, brother.
Ian MalcolmLove it, Dr. Strange. Let's go to, like I was saying, let's go to Miss Mandy. And maybe what we can do, Mandy, is get from you not only some of your thoughts on kind of the space, the amazing work that Forbidden has been doing, but also maybe some words of affirmation and positivity as we send off the space.
@rabbimandyxYes, I've learned so much. I have not, I do video editing in my media work, but I am so inspired by Forbidden. I've known him for a little while on here. We've actually prayed together. We've gone through some struggles together. There have been times where we've both said, I don't know how to go forward with all these challenges.
@rabbimandyxBut he's been an incredible, incredible friend to me. And one of the things that I love so much about him as, you know, there's many, many things, but not only is he a genius intellectually and creatively, but he's definitely a man of faith. Thank you so much for joining us.
@rabbimandyxI saw like some of Dave Chappelle's stuff. The way that he talked about the LGBTQ and how, you know, I don't know if you guys saw it, but like getting in the car and this queer gets in the car, but doesn't really fit with the rest of them. And this one's just holding them all back. I don't know if you guys have seen it.
@rabbimandyxAnd then also where he said, you know, I need some sort of safe words so you can know if I've sold out and it's going to be, I stand with Israel. And I think that the way that he delivers those punchlines in such a way that he's not outwardly saying like AF Israel, he's doing it in such a way that you can laugh while getting the message.
@rabbimandyxSo you're not so resistant to it. And that's really just the unbelievable genius of his creativity. And I'm in awe of it. And I'm... I'm so happy. I messaged Ian during this because this is my favorite space ever in history. I'm so proud to know him. I'm so proud to be on here during this time and be able to witness all of this and see it from the very beginning when there was a time we were on here and there wasn't a Forbidden.
@rabbimandyxThere wasn't somebody doing this sort of amazing creative work. And the way that we just get to log in now and see these amazing videos that used to only be able to see this quality on like Netflix, but we can give up our Netflix, like Godfroy was saying. What is it? Stop the goyslop. Yeah. And we get to stop the goyslop because of amazing creators like Forbidden.
@rabbimandyxAnd I think as I won't go too much longer, I do want to say a prayer after this, if it's OK. I was talking with Rabbi Jeff the other day, and he told me, I'm tired. And I said, I know, because I get tired too. We get tired of the attacks. You get tired of just constantly having to delve into all this dark stuff, because I know that Rabbi Jeff delves into some very dark stuff.
@rabbimandyxAnd sometimes uncovering all of that truth is hard to handle. But you know you have to expose it because people need to know the truth. And I think that having the humor of Forbidden and him doing the unbelievable heavy lifting of entertaining this entire movement, which is what he's doing, is just what a wonderful benefit.
@rabbimandyxBut also going back to what Rabbi Jeff said to me about how he's tired and me feeling exactly that way, I can totally relate to what Thank you so much for joining us.
@rabbimandyxWe'll be able to expand the movement in this way. So I think more than anything, every time I see a forbidden video from now on, I'm going to say, that was amazing. Thank you, Lord, for allowing this to come onto my feed. But also, what can I do to contribute in this way? Maybe it's not a video that I can make. Maybe it's another way I can bring out the truth by making somebody laugh.
@rabbimandyxHow can I, what gift do I have that I can use to expose the truth rather than just consuming? Because, I mean, it was just so spot on and it really inspired me. And I just, I want to go out now and try my hand, although I know I'll definitely fail. He'll, I know he'll support me though. That's the cool thing about him.
@rabbimandyxHe'll be like, this is the coolest thing ever. And I'll be like an old like Windows presentation looking. But anyway. I just super, I super appreciate him and I love this space and thank you so much Ian and JoAnn for putting this on and for Matt and for Michael who I love his stuff and I haven't ever talked to him before and of course the Dan Bilzerian account, Godfroy, everybody here who's made this possible and contributed to this.
@rabbimandyxWhat an amazing space. Do you mind if I say a prayer right now?
@knoxieluvWould love it.
@rabbimandyxOkay.
@knoxieluvPlease do.
@rabbimandyxHeavenly Father, Please protect those who speak the truth and create for your glory. Guard their hearts, minds, and work from harm and give them the courage and wisdom to continue. As your word says, you will know the truth and the truth will set you free. John 8, 32 And, quote, no weapon formed against you shall prosper.
@rabbimandyxThis is one that Forbidden reminded me of the other day. Isaiah 54, 17 In Jesus' name we pray. Amen.
Ian MalcolmThat's so beautiful. And Mandy, you know, it's really funny as a way to leave this. What a perfect microcosm for all of it because our space here was reshared and reposted along with a screenshot of the speaker panel and an individual saying, I'm behind the enemy lines in the land of the anti-Semites. And I just find it so funny.
Ian Malcolmthat as we wrap up with a prayer and talk about utilizing our Care Bear stare of trying to push out love, truth, and honesty, that all they can do is say, look at the antisemites, right? And so it's like, oh, I'm sorry, opposing pedophilia and genocide and lies and, let's say, obfuscation, subversion, all those, oh, yeah, we're in opposition to those, so I guess we're the villains, right?
Ian MalcolmThat is... It's antithetical to common sense. People are starting to note the lack of common sense amongst the common man today because everybody's been so propagandized. And as a result, that is why Where Forbidden's videos hit as hard as they do. Because like the great comics, and Mandy, what a wonderful comment there.
Ian MalcolmThere are few, right, if any, in the stand-up comedy realm that can touch Dave Chappelle. He is unbelievable. And isn't it curious that, to loosely quote him, he talked about how he was going to make a sci-fi movie about a race of people who were sent away and then came to Earth and they said, oh, we've been here all along, we're supposed to rule it.
Ian MalcolmAnd then he goes, I'm going to call it Space Jews. And so Dave Chappelle may be ahead of the curve on the JQ. He's one of the absolute greats on stage. Everybody should support that man. for speaking, let's say, very boldly and very patriotically against insanity. And Where Forbidden has been doing precisely that. He is to the land of memes what Dave Chappelle is to the land of stand-up comedy.
Ian MalcolmThis was a banger. Mr. Where Forbidden, I am so humbled, I am so blessed, so honored that you are here with all of us. I know the... The anticipation, like Rabbi Mallius was saying, was for weeks. I was so excited for this one and to not only discuss the program, but to get a sense of who you are as a person. I could not be more excited for everything that we're going to see going forward, my friends.
Ian MalcolmSo lots of love to absolutely everybody that's out there. Keep doing your part. You have no idea how powerful all of you are with all the things that you have, all the sparks that are inside you. So go give it a try. Play around with the AI because again, two or three years ago, I don't think we're forbidden possibly imagined that something like 13% of the world's public might have come across this content and yet here we are, right?
Ian MalcolmSo we can all make immense differences and it doesn't mean, it doesn't matter if it is on the digital front with a billion people or if it is just one person that you reach out to and say, have you thought about this yet? Maybe this angle? And if you don't feel comfortable doing that for what it's worth, if talking about some of these political issues is a little bit sensitive, not in your wheelhouse, totally fine.
Ian MalcolmYou know what? Just hold the door for an elderly person, right? Just say, how are you doing to the stranger? Just try to make the world a little bit better. And if we all do that, if millions of people do it, we'll be able to reject and reverse the insane slopaganda that comes out of Hollywood. And we're going to find a whole lot more people
Ian MalcolmWilling to put out wonderful content, wonderful ideas, and to just be a wonderful person as Mr. Where Forbidden is. Lots of love to absolutely everybody. We will keep continuing to try and have these conversations to try and moralize the world as best we can. All of you keep doing your part. We will certainly keep doing it right here.
Ian MalcolmAnd as always, certainly, good morning, good evening, good afternoon to everybody wherever you are in the world. Certainly, God bless. For everything that you are, and Godspeed, we are going to continue absolutely irrefutably winning. So let NetYahoo say, make it funny, and we will just continue laughing at how poorly they do and how wonderfully our side does.
Ian MalcolmSo lots of love, everybody. We will see you in the next phase. God bless, Godspeed, as always. Good night.