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- 0:00Opening Music and Audio CheckThe host opens by checking audio levels after an introductory song and welcoming guests.
- 5:59Defining REAL Conspiracies TopicThe host outlines the focus on examining genuine geopolitical conspiracies.
- 16:23Bolsonaro Psyop and MAGA HypocrisySpeakers critique the hypocrisy of MAGA supporting criminal migrants.
- 21:00Israel Usurpers and US ComplicityA speaker argues that Israel controls the United States military apparatus.
- 23:24Lori's Experience with Sandy HookLori recalls working with Jim Fetzer and the beginning of book banning.
- 32:15Nobody Died at Sandy HookFetzer explains how his team proved Sandy Hook was a closed school used for a FEMA drill.
- 40:08Rigged Sandy Hook Court CaseFetzer describes the absurd judicial ruling that excluded all his Sandy Hook evidence.
- 49:41Connecticut State Police photo evidenceA private detective's review of state police photographs found no bodies, no blood, and no operating school at Sandy Hook.
- 58:40Fabricated 9-11 Crash SitesFetzer argues that flight records prove planes were not in the air.
- 1:07:35JFK's Eight Shooters IdentifiedFetzer identifies eight different shooters in Dealey Plaza representing various sponsoring factions.
- 1:20:20The Great Zapruder Film HoaxFetzer argues the Zapruder film was edited to remove the limo stop.
- 1:23:37Zapruder's Complicity in JFK CoverFetzer claims Zapruder was complicit because his on-air statements matched the edited film.
- 1:31:52RFK Assassination and the PantryFetzer links the same Israeli shooter to the RFK assassination.
- 1:33:50RFK Jr's Pro-Israel CommentaryRectenwald questions RFK Jr.'s recent pro-Israel statements.
- 1:35:59Banned Books and Research ResourcesJim Fetzer shares resources for his banned books and research available on his blog and BitChute channel.
- 1:48:56JFK Research Origins in 1992Fetzer recounts his entry into JFK assassination research in 1992.
- 1:53:08JFK Sponsors and Shooters IdentifiedFetzer names the sponsors, facilitators, and mechanics behind the JFK assassination.
- 2:01:52Third Party Massie Marjorie TicketFetzer and Rectenwald advocate for a Massie-Marjorie Taylor Greene third-party ticket.
- 2:07:11Turning Against Israel SupportFetzer argues public sentiment has turned against supporting Israel.
- 2:18:17Laurie Asks About Sandy HookLaurie asks Fetzer about suspicious Connecticut State Lottery winners connected to Sandy Hook figures, and he calls the payoffs curious.
- 2:20:20Don Questions Eisenhower and JFKDon asks Fetzer about Eisenhower's silence after JFK's death, prompting discussion of Fletcher Prouty and military complicity.
- 2:29:27Daltex Building ADL ConnectionsSam Parker reveals the Daltex building's ownership transfer to ADL members weeks before JFK's death.
- 2:30:13Daltex Building Ownership TransferredSam Parker reveals the Daltex building was transferred to an ADL member before JFK.
- 2:40:46Financial System and Bitcoin QuestionA listener asks Fetzer about Jewish financial control, leading to discussion of the Federal Reserve and Bitcoin.
- 2:50:23Burning Down the Republican PartySam Parker argues for burning down the Zionist Republican Party from within.
- 2:59:02Dr. Strange on Money in PoliticsDr. Strange proposes public campaign funds to remove big money from elections, debating feasibility with Sam Parker.
- 3:06:14Ehsan on AIPAC and Gaza LawsuitEhsan describes his ongoing legal battle, reconnecting with Jake and Dan in Vegas, and the Arab American Civil Rights League's class action over Gaza funding.
- 3:08:27Uniting Left and RightEhsan Joarder discusses uniting left and right against Jewish power and the next JP conference.
- 3:16:10Shifting Terminology to Jewish SupremacyConverse argues the movement must use the term Jewish supremacy instead of Zionism.
- 3:19:42Idaho Anti-Zionist Watchdog PlatformCasey created a state-level platform to monitor legislation favoring foreign entities.
- 3:33:07Mandy on Community and Touching GrassMandy reflects on staying grounded through community and nature while waking up to psyops and lies.
- 3:38:00Dr. Simon's Wake-Up StoryDr. Simon shares how living in the jungle keeps him grounded and recounts his awakening to Israel and Palestine issues.
- 3:46:10Purity Spiral and Zionist Fascist LabelsDr. Simon discusses the political purity spiral and being labeled a Zionist fascist.
- 3:52:11Antichrist Defined as Rejecting JesusMandy argues that Judaism itself fits the biblical definition of the Antichrist.
- 3:54:51Antichrist as a SpiritMisterQuigley delivers a rant on the Antichrist as a spirit celebrating the destruction of innocence.
- 4:05:40Rabbi Says Inbreeding Loopholes VideoMisterQuigley mocks the Mishnah Torah conversion loophole before explaining he may need a break from his Rabbi Says video series.
- 4:15:36Closing Prayer and Tiny HatsMisterQuigley leads the space in a closing prayer before the Tiny Hats theme song plays.
The Transcript
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0:00Opening Music and Audio Check
Ian MalcolmJoAnn, hopefully the audio was coming through rather clearly for that beautiful song on this beautiful day. JoAnn, it's an absolute pleasure, and I hope we're going to have a wonderfully productive, positive, and rather interesting conversations, because I've been told that we're going to learn some things that even we haven't heard of thus far in our adventure to uncover some of these truths.
Ian MalcolmBut I'm looking forward to this one.
Ian MalcolmJoAnn, are you there?
@joann_marieSorry, I glitched. I'm back. I heard it really, really low, but that's you too, and I haven't found what I'm looking for.
Ian MalcolmWait, it was low before it was too high?
@joann_marieOh, no, it was for me. It was perfect now. Oh, okay. Once I reset, no, the music was amazing again.
Ian MalcolmOh my goodness, we're just all, one of these days we'll get something more sophisticated than a couple smartphones and a couple hopefully smart people, although I can't make any promises.
@joann_marieNo, it's me, the person that I'm glitching. I need to reset again because I hear everybody really low. It's me, it's not you. It's me. I'll be right back.
Ian MalcolmIt's not me. It's you, says JoAnn. Boy, I feel like I've been told that before. But we'll see if we can get Mandy up here as a co-host as well, just in case there's any kind of issues with the space. But I think we've got Casey here. Hopefully this is working properly. Casey, are you with us?
@casey_whalenYeah, I'm here. Ian, thank you so much for having us on today.
Ian MalcolmYeah, absolutely. Whoa, now I do hear two of them. I think that's coming back through your mic, Casey. Hopefully that's working. Yep, it seems like it's better. So, Casey, excited for the discourse and the conversation here. And this is going to be new to me. And I know we got the... I think it was back in September, which is just wild, JoAnn, to think that early September when we were asked about a space that this is the earliest that we can afford in terms of the scheduling right before Halloween.
Ian MalcolmAnd I guess yesterday's back-to-back-to-back spaces for anybody that wants to go back and listen to those. Obviously, we had the incredible space that was... Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmAnd prior to that, also spoke with Dr. Simon Goddick about what was going on down in Brazil with the elections. So again, back to back to back conversations, which was pretty interesting and entertaining. And in doing so, we got a whole bunch of different perspectives and a whole bunch of different speakers. And I want to thank everybody that was along for that ride.
Ian MalcolmBut Casey, so again, it's been, I don't know, maybe a month and a half since we set this up. And I know that you had been doing some work with, if I'm not mistaken, Mr. Jim Fetzer, who's going to be the guest speaker here. And maybe to set the stage, because I'm not familiar with his persona or his work, but as we're waiting for him to arrive, maybe you could give us a little bit of information on what you guys have been working on, on his backdrop, and some of the things that he wanted to cover in the space here today.
@joann_marieCasey? Also, he's here, and I sent him a mic. I sent him down there.
@casey_whalenI think he has to accept. I told him he needed to accept your invite. So, Jim, if you can see the accept button down below on the bottom right, bottom left.
@joann_marieYeah, or to request a mic, just hit the mic button. And no, Ian, thank you so much for hosting. Yesterday was amazing. At the end of the day, I had my brain fried. I had no idea what was up, what was down. I had no idea what was happening. Like, I literally just forgot. Like, I was trying to think who did we even interview because my brain was just like absolutely gone.
@joann_marieBut no, I had so much fun. This is the best way that I can spend my afternoons. So I love you all and thank you so much for hosting it. You're absolutely great. And guys, please repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and follow Ian and Mandy, Michael, Joann, Casey, James. Oh my God, we have such superstars here.
@joann_marieAnd of course, allegedly thank who is down in the listeners for putting all of Ian's works in Malcolm's spaces. Rumble, Spotify. Apple Podcasts, IanMalcolm84.com, and also now on Instagram and TikTok. So thank you so much, thank you, and I'm still a superhero.
Ian MalcolmAnd we're still on TikTok. We've made it, I think, 72 hours with multiple strikes, JoAnn, but it's still at least available.
@joann_marieThank you so much, thank you. I hope we last there forever.
Ian MalcolmI do too. And if not, then TikTok and Instagram, they will just have to deal with our respawns and we will just say, baby, come back. I think the song, baby, come back. So we've got some silly energy, I think, in this room. It was a lot of spaces yesterday, a lot of wonderful conversations. This one I'm curious and interested about because, again, this idea...
5:59Defining REAL Conspiracies Topic
Ian Malcolmof bringing to light some real with the all caps there on the R-E-A-L conspiracies, right? Because we tend to, let's say, to specifically look at different items, different segments, different sections of the geopolitical world, the cultural battles, all these different things. And so on this one coming in, and like I said, Casey had very, let's say,
Ian MalcolmProfessionally reached out and said that they were working on a project with Jim. And it might be an interesting thing to discuss. So you're going to be very curious to learn all about those mysteries that Mr. Jim Fetzer is interested in sharing. Before we go. around the room and introduce our guest speaker as well as Casey, who again helped to set this in motion.
Ian MalcolmI just wanted to go and check out with some of our wonderful speakers that are up here, in particular with Dr. Michael Rectenwald from Azapac, all the incredible things that they have been doing. I see we've also got Mr. Joe Santos, one of my favorite, let's say, sparring partners of the past. I think he's absolutely brilliant for anybody who did not listen in.
Ian MalcolmThe space that Joa did on the idea of propaganda was absolutely exceptional. Understanding how all of these big companies, these big politicians, and these platforms that we're utilizing are essentially playing with not only the algorithms, but as a result, with your mind, right? And it was really just absolutely phenomenal, the conversation that we had with him.
Ian MalcolmAnd so many others. I see, and I'm going to send him a mic. I don't know if he's going to be able to join us. But the one and only... Mr. Joey Good is in the house and I have to call out that Joey, in case you are not aware, I think we have ended every single space going on perhaps a month straight with some of your incredible tunes, the incredible work that you put together, my friend.
Ian MalcolmSo many blessings and well wishes to you, your family. Joey Good, folks, for anybody not following the man, we'll put something up into the nest. The songs that he has been putting together, including the infamous Tiny Hats, along with a litany of others. He really is just bringing unbelievable both comedy, musicality, and an incredible message to everybody around us.
Ian MalcolmI see JoAnn just put up Tiny Hats into the nest. I know some of his songs have gotten, let's say, removed from X for hateful content. There's nothing funnier.
Ian Malcolmabout the world that we live in and the power structure that we are pointing to. So lots and lots and lots of love, not just to Joe, to Dr. Rectenwald, to Lori and the ASAPAC team, to our speakers that are here today with Jim and Casey, to the incomparable Miss Mandy and JoAnn, the co-hostesses with the mostesses. I get to really emphasize that one.
Ian MalcolmAnd folks like Joey Good, Mr. Godfroy, who I know is going to be doing another space. Some of the work that he's been doing over the last couple years, absolutely incredible. And it was Godfroy who ran the space on how, this was an interesting one that might be relevant for what we're going to discuss today because I think we might cover some of the Charlie Kirk assassination areas.
Ian MalcolmBut Mr. Godfroy doing the space a while back, I think it was maybe a year ago, on how essentially the assassination attempt, and I use air quotes as I say that, of Donald Trump Perhaps was some kind of ritualistic, if not Kabbalistic, let's say either sacrifice or showcase or demonstration or whatever term you want to use.
Ian MalcolmThat space was absolutely incredible. The idea of piercing his ear in front of everybody, all these other things. There is a lot of black magic that you can draw parallels between. Again, not calling, I guess, any violent event denial or any of those things. Masad, I know a big digital middle finger to you. But rather the suggestions, the theories that Mr. Godfroy shared on that space, absolutely incredible.
Ian MalcolmAnd so without further ado, let's just go around the horn and then we'll get to Casey for an introduction to some of his... Efforts, and we'll use that as a segue into introductions from Mr. Jim Fetzer. So that being said, Mandy, JoAnn, anything else that I might be missing before we turn the microphone here to Dr. Rectenwald and Lori, and then over to JoAnn, and then to Mr. Casey?
@joann_marieNo, thank you, Ian, for hosting. I have heard excellent things about you, James. So thank you so much for joining us. And I cannot wait to learn more. And I'm really happy to be here. So thank you so much. Mandy, go for it. How are you? Mandy got me a really cool T-shirt that I wore today. And I just want to thank you again.
@joann_marieSo love you, Mandy.
@mandyarthurYes, it says Noticer on it. And it has Jesus flipping the table. So she looks spectacular. And if nobody knows, because I don't think people know really what Joanne looks like. She is so stunning. She is so stunning. And I encouraged her to post that picture because I was just like, you're just such a bombshell. You gotta show people.
@mandyarthurAnd she always likes to tell me that she's brown. And I'm like, JoAnn.
@joann_marieI am brown. I'm beige.
@mandyarthurNo, no, no. We settled on beige. We settled on beige.
@joann_marieI'm not a European.
@mandyarthurI feel like you're not an African.
@joann_marieStop.
Ian MalcolmI think Navajo white was the very famed, what would you call it, wall coloring that was very popular, if I'm not mistaken, in the 2000s there.
Ian MalcolmLook up Navajo white and see if that might be
@joann_marieI still consider myself wrong, so.
@mandyarthurOkay, well, no one else is a little delusion. But anyway, I do want to welcome Joey Good and just say how amazing he is. I looked the other day and he's only at 30-something thousand followers and we've really got to fix that. He should definitely have a million for all the work he's doing, all the wonderful creative music.
@mandyarthurLike, I listen... I'm a little bit embarrassed to say this. I listen to Tiny Hats in the shower. Like before I go to bed, I'm like, I really want to listen to Tiny Hats. Or what's the other one about the painter? That one's amazing. Oh, I told you so. Told you so. Like I'm learning. I'm learning about this stuff through his songs.
@mandyarthurIt's incredible. So just what an amazing guy. And thank you so much for all you do, Joey. I don't know much about this space, but I'm so excited to hear about it. And I'm honored to be here. And thank you, Ian and JoAnn, for having me. And yeah, I'm just excited to hear about it. So thank you. And I won't take up any more time.
Speaker 1Absolutely.
Ian MalcolmAnd just throwing up into the nest, I wanted to bring attention because the Viking Nomad, I'll actually put his rendition of this post up into... He sent this over to me. I thought this was a really interesting one on Seth McFarland and Mark Wahlberg. And I went to actually quote tweet him and to share his ideas. And I tagged wrong.
Ian MalcolmIt was the same handle, but his has a little dash after the end of it. And so I wanted to make sure that I properly brought attention to his wonderful post. And this actually really quickly, this goes back, and I think it's really relevant for, for example, with ASAPAC and Dr. Rectenwald and all the things that they're doing.
Ian MalcolmSo the Viking Nomad here, 7.2 thousand followers. That post from earlier today currently sitting at 154 thousand impressions with roughly 3,000 likes and almost 600 reposts. And I bring attention to this because, again, I want to emphasize to everybody,
Ian MalcolmAnd that includes all these other little parameters around people's engagement and all these other things that we know that they fake. And so I say it because everybody, it doesn't matter if you have seven, seven hundred, seven thousand or seven million followers, your ability to reach a lot of eyeballs is almost equally, let's say, capable.
Ian MalcolmAll of us have the ability to share a really insightful or interesting comment, shoot it out into the zeitgeist, and as a result, get it amplified by everybody. And so I just encourage everyone that's in here, as I always do, to not put your faith in any one champion. We all need to become our own rendition of Neo or whatever it is that you find aspirational and inspirational.
Ian MalcolmDo your piece. To play your role in this machine and just keep at it. Keep sharing content with your friends, your family, and this digital, let's say, you know, amphitheater that we're all in. Because at the end of the day, like I said, you know, while it helps when some of the bigger handles share our content and all these other things, the algorithm is, it really is a, let's say, whose guess is it anyway instead of who's lying?
Ian MalcolmAs to what will actually get a lot of traction. So just keep doing your part, and we never know what's going to come out of that magic sorter that is the bizarre XAI algorithm. But that being said, let's go over, speaking of algorithms and abilities to change public opinions, let's check in really quickly first with Mr. Joe Santos, then we'll go to Dr. Rectenwald, and then, like I said, we'll bring introductions to Mr. James Jim Fetzer.
Speaker 2Hey guys, what do you want exactly Ian? Just my thoughts on the day?
Ian MalcolmOn the day? Yes, just checking in.
Speaker 2Yeah, just, you know, things today kind of got me a bit reactive, let's say, on X. The psyop that's going on about Bolsonaro is just on another level. You know, I think it's quite funny that MAGA was so against a criminal, Migrants, and all of a sudden they're applauding criminal migrants being allowed in the country, getting a visa, while they arrive on a drug traffickers jet.
16:23Bolsonaro Psyop and MAGA Hypocrisy
Speaker 2I mean, it's kind of ironic. It's like these people don't stand for anything except what the president tells them to believe. So, you know, Malga now believes criminal migrants are a good thing. This is America.
Ian MalcolmThis is America. Joe, any thoughts on what's going on? Speaking of elections in Israel right now with Netanyahu's perspective, either reelection or deselection or what are your thoughts on both what's coming out of Israel and then also the implications that it might have going forward?
Speaker 2Well, apparently Netanyahu just made a tweet that 50 percent of Israel's anti-Semitic because they didn't vote for him. You know, I agree with Netanyahu on that. I do believe 50% of Israel is anti-Semitic because if you don't vote for Netanyahu, you are anti-Semitic. So, you know, I support Netanyahu, I guess. What implications does that have?
Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait, wait. We got to caveat that one. I'm joking, of course. Yeah, that's going to get clipped in these rooms. I can just see it tomorrow. Ian Malcolm, suspect numero uno, digital anti-Semites faces support in Yahoo. That'll be the way. But, but, Joanne, I mean, given the... The Semites that have been, let's say, at the receiving end of the rockets of Israel for quite some time.
Ian MalcolmI mean, I would agree that a lot of Israelis seem to be actually anti-Semitic. It's just the other Semites that they're perfectly happy to essentially exterminate.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's a very good point. Yeah, look, I don't know. I thought that the Arab parties, and I haven't looked into it, and someone can tell me, I thought the Arab parties were also partially Jewish Arabs. And he's attacking them quite heavily, which I find...
Speaker 2I don't find this strange because I know they're very racist, but... I mean, how does that sound to most Jews, right? There's a lot of... Do you tell me, Ian, if you know, aren't the Arab parties that ran, aren't a lot of them...
Ian MalcolmI think there's a lot of that. And I see Hubbard has his hand up if he wants to jump in as well. But no, there's a lot of that. And it's funny seeing the Israelis basically saying, ah, the Arabs are meddling with our elections. I saw somebody, Joe, I don't know if you saw this. They were saying it was a political October 7th.
Ian MalcolmYeah, I saw that. The hyperbole is so crazy.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's becoming clown world. Like literally like Israel's the home for the Jews, but only the white Jews. Then, you know, then the criminal migrant thing, like I said before, like honestly, it's just becoming like every storyline is getting so jumbled that they're now like flip-flopping from storyline to storyline because they don't know which way is north anymore.
Speaker 3And Joe, go ahead.
Speaker 3I believe that the Arab parties represent what is considered the Palestinian Israelis. These are not the Palestinians. I don't know if JoAnn would know more about this, but these are considered Israeli Arabs or Palestinian Arabs. I don't even think the Mizrahi consider themselves... The way they use Arab, I think they mean it almost Muslim.
Speaker 3It's almost like an out-group thing, where even the Lebanese are...
@joann_marieI think we're leaving Levantine and they call us Arabs because they like dehumanizing us. They don't like calling us Palestinians because they say that we don't exist, so they call us Arabs. But I consider us Levantine because we are Levantine. We're not the same as the other ones.
Speaker 2So if you're an Arab Jew, like a Mizrahi Jew, or even Sephardic, that means you're not... If you're Jewish, that means you're not Arab to them?
21:00Israel Usurpers and US Complicity
@rectheregimeSo basically it's the fake Jews that are actually running the show. I mean, this is amazing. These people are utter usurpers. The first thing they steal is other people's identities. I mean, that's the first crime that they commit. Then they commit the crime of stealing their land. Then they commit the crime of stealing their lives.
@rectheregimeThey're just unbelievably ruthless and brutal and utterly deceptive and... They know no bounds morally, so it's stunning. And the United States has a lot to answer for in supporting this horrific regime, Israel, as it were. But the thing is, the United States is being run by Israel, as it were. So that's the reason why the United States is complicit in Israel's crimes.
@rectheregimeIsrael is actually manipulated in the United States. They may as well have remote control over our military. That's how bad it is. And when they fuse our military with theirs in the next NDAA bill that is going to pass, unfortunately, then they will effectively be inside of our military apparatuses and in effect in total control of our government and our military.
@rectheregimeI mean, it's unbelievable. I just want to say how pleasantly surprised I was when I learned that Jim Fetzer was coming to the space tonight and that he was being a guest speaker. I mean, this goes way back. I don't know if Jim remembers me, but I remember him and Lori, who runs CLG News, certainly remembers Jim. And I think Jim does her as well.
@rectheregimeI think Lori could tell you more about Jim than I could. I know she has a lot to say about his book, which I'll let her talk about it if you don't mind. Let me throw it to Lori if it's okay.
Speaker 4Hi, you guys. Thank you so much for having this space and the topic. And Jim Fetzer, who I haven't connected with recently, but I just want to say how much work he's done, like brilliant work and really just revolutionary work Jim has done. I just want to point out one thing is, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook, Sandy Hook
23:24Lori's Experience with Sandy Hook
Speaker 4That was the beginning of the book banning. And since we have Jim in there in honor of him, I just want to say, he used to have me a lot on his show talking about CLG News, and he'd bring up headlines, and I'd talk about them, we'd both talk about them. And there would always be somebody calling in saying that Israel and certain groups were behind things, and I kind of shunned it, and I was, I don't know, it was a little different than I was kind of, sort of...
Speaker 4Not afraid. I don't worry.
@rectheregimeYou got J-pilled, Lori. You got J-pilled. Just admit it.
Speaker 4Okay. Right. And I would always shut these people down that would call in. And I know Jim wanted to let them talk more. It was kind of sad what I did. And I'm sorry kind of in a way about that. I think differently on it now.
@rectheregimeWe're going to have a struggle session over this right now, Lori. I know.
Speaker 4I know. It was... It was bad that what I was like very like I would get very quiet and not comment because Michael even at the beginning there was just this is an antidote the CLG News which has been around for a long time there was to be this guy that would call it he was a Jewish guy and he would go right to Michael like over my head even though I was managing it and complain about me when I would put up like okay so ISIS captains are being treated by um
Speaker 4By the IDF, like they would have a whole 20, a literal 20 photo essay in the Daily Mail. It wasn't Photoshop, it was legit. And this guy would then complain to Michael and I goes, what are you doing? We're putting this up. And I'm like, okay, but it's reality. What am I going to do here? You know, I mean, ISIS leaders are being treated by Israeli...
Speaker 4Medics, okay? And this is what's happening. And so anyway, that was a long time ago and we've come very far. But just one thing before I toss it off, I just want to say something about Jim and Sandy Hook. I live like 20 minutes from there and just, I'm just going to say one thing since the topic is real conspiracies. Just to say, I live 20 minutes from there.
Speaker 4So the local news happened to cover it, okay? They had a man in the woods, and people can look up Sandy Hook if they're new to it, whatever. And he was arrested, and it came out to be, they said, he was the father of one of the students. Yeah, he's running around the woods in Connecticut, in this Fairfield County, which, I mean, it's insane.
Speaker 4Everyone there is like a millionaire or above, okay? And all we have to do to figure out the reality of Sandy Hook is to take that iconic classroom photo, and I think the FBI can now determine where anything comes from. If you're wearing something, they can trace the whole thing. All I had to do back then was throw that photo into a machine and see that they were all wearing outdated clothing, that the whole thing was just very odd, but that's Jim's.
Speaker 4Wheelhouse. But I just want to just thank him for being here. It's just so nice that he's here. And I'm actually with Michael in Pittsburgh right now. I just want to say that. So this is cool. And thank you for letting me speak and speak on diverse topics. I appreciate it.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. And what a wonderful way to segment into this introduction. And Casey, did you want to jump in? I know that you've been working with James on some of these projects and maybe set the stage for him.
@casey_whalenYeah, sure. I basically, I found out about Jim a long time ago, back in 2007, I guess it probably was. I'd seen him on, I want to say RT or something, and he was making the rounds back then. And then he just kind of disappeared. I think we all know why, you know, from those platforms. And anyways, I basically filmed the JP conference that was held in Kentucky, hosted by Converse back in 2024.
@casey_whalenGot to meet Dave Gahari, who runs Money Tree Publishing. And I knew that he worked with James. And I had done James' show a couple times in the past, here and there, on different subjects. But I just decided, you know, I talked with Dave Guajari, I was like, you know, it'd be great to do some sort of documentary about his life, because he always talks about the conspiracy theories.
@casey_whalenBut, you know, this is an important person who's being heavily censored in, you know, our modern time right now, and it's important to document his life. So... We flew him out to Freedom Fest in Las Vegas, Nevada in July. I was filming for Platform Liberty Roundtable Live. He hung around and he helped me tote my film bags.
@casey_whalenIt was 110 degrees and this guy is 85. He didn't complain one time. We filmed the documentary essentially in the time we were there. I'm about ready to go into post-production next, here probably in the next week or so, and just try to get it completed so we can turn it around. I just have a lot of respect for Jim. He does the research, he finds the people that knows what they're talking about, and I don't necessarily agree with him on everything, of course.
@casey_whalenI don't think anybody agrees with everybody. But this guy is amazing. He's doing radio five, six days a week. He's on RBN, Republic Broadcasting Network, and Revolution Radio. He just doesn't stop. He's a workhorse at 85. It's really amazing when you think about it, the amount of work this guy does, writing books. He's got a book on Charlie Kirk coming out here soon.
@casey_whalenHe's just an interesting character. When you actually get to meet him, and I got to spend a handful of days with him in Vegas, he's just like someone you've known your whole life. He's just a very down-to-earth person, and I really appreciate his time. Thank you for having me.
@casey_whalenThe Sage, MisterQuigley33, MightyThor, Zob, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
@casey_whalenThanks for being here, Jim. And thank you, Ian and JoAnn. And it's nice to see you, Michael and Laurie and everybody here. Thanks for coming.
Ian MalcolmAbsolutely, Casey. And my apologies, Jim. We had so many wonderful friends that were up here. And I'm glad that not only are they with us, but also familiar with you and some of your work, especially there with Dr. Rectenwald and Lori. So it's an absolute pleasure. Mr. Fetzer, I suppose maybe the best place to start is to Casey's commentary there.
Ian MalcolmAn introduction, if you don't mind giving one for those not familiar with your work and your persona, and maybe some of those hidden gems or nuggets that Casey was saying. that people might not even be familiar with that are frequent listeners to some of the work that you're doing.
Speaker 5Well, those were very kind words from Lori and from Casey, and they're very dear to me both. And perhaps what's unusual about me is having a professional academic career, 35 years as a professor of philosophy, where I publish widely lots and lots of books. taught lots of courses, mostly on logic, critical thinking, and scientific reasoning.
Speaker 5So when I became drawn into conspiracy research, which actually for me began in 1992 with JFK, I simply brought the same kind of approach that I did as an academician, organizing conferences, bringing together experts, editing books. Some of the striking aspects, Laurie was alluding to the banning of the Nobody Died at Sandy Hook, which happened when it was published in 2015, less than a month after it went on sale, even though it had sold nearly 500 copies.
32:15Nobody Died at Sandy Hook
Speaker 5You'd think Amazon would want to keep a book around that's going to make them a whole lot of money. That was a problem. It was destined to become a bestseller. Now, what I'd done was bring together 13 experts, including six PhDs and we ascertained that the school had been closed by 2008, that there were no students or teachers there and there had been a FEMA drill presented as mass murder to promote the Obama gun control agenda.
Speaker 5The whole thing was a fraud from beginning to end. I already even had the FEMA manual for the exercise which I included as Appendix A. Now, just two days before the book was banned, and Laurie may not know this, I was contacted by a television program edition, first edition, whatever, saying they wanted to feature me to talk about the discoveries we'd made in the book.
Speaker 5But I had to first undergo an interview. And I found myself, boom. In a basement operation at Langley where a professional integrator was saying, what do you got? What do you got? What do you got? So I'd lay out one roof after another. Well, we got a former school administrator who supervised active shooter drills, was doubtful what was going on, reached out to his contacts in the Obama Department of Education, all of whom confirmed to him it had been a drill, nobody had died, and it was done to promote gun control.
Speaker 5Stuff like that. that we have all the photographs. The school was in deplorable condition. It actually had been abandoned years and years before. In fact, interestingly, the book, after it was banned, I was going on with Jeff Rentsch that night, and I realized this was political. And if I tried to fight it in court, it would be dragged out for years.
Speaker 5So I simply released the book for free as a PDF. So it's been downloaded by a friend's estimate. Dr. Michael Rectenwald Ph.D., Bricius Lipscombus, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
Speaker 5because they felt I was being abused to lend their support, and they sent me lots of documents, lots of photographs. For example, the Connecticut FEMA had the schedule for the week of exercises, and there it was for Sandy Hook, Exercise L366, stated for 14 December. They actually had the FEMA event on the 13th and then presented as a live event the following day.
Speaker 5They even sent me a photograph. I was being sued because one of my colleagues, Kelly Watt, had been in contact with a fellow calling himself Leonard Posner, who claimed to be the father of Noah Posner, who was a very, very photogenic little kid. It was among, you know, the two. There was he as a little boy and then Emily Parker, her blonde-haired, blue-eyed little girl.
Speaker 5were by far the most interesting children, attractive, and the teacher, Victoria Soto. Well, the actual parties who played those roles of Margaret Parker and Emily Parker and Victoria Soto reached out to me through an intermediary to tell me how much they appreciated what I'd done and that they wanted to support me. and rounded out my understanding of the story.
Speaker 5Now, this endured for three years where I had a whole lot of contact with them by way of the intermediary. And on occasion, I'd have direct interaction with they themselves. But it was absolutely fascinating to get all the confirmation. Turns out it wasn't even an elementary school. It was a special needs school. It actually closed not in 2008, but in 2006.
Speaker 5and Eric Holder had come to Newtown to offer the community $114 million if they'd participate in this exercise, which was intended to illustrate what could happen if we don't take guns away from the American people. They had auditions for roles. They had signed nondisclosure agreements. They had all kinds of fringe benefits.
Speaker 5They don't pay any taxes. They get free college, no tuition. The reason the two parties could reach out to me is their mothers had cast them in their roles and they never signed the nondisclosure agreements. So I always thought it would be very curious how the government would prosecute someone for outing the fact that they played a role in Sandy Hook since it would expose the whole charade.
Speaker 5It was a FEMA drill. I know who ran it, his name right there, Tom Romano, who runs these drills for FEMA, just as this one had an extra demand shift. Now, in the meanwhile, I've continued by bringing groups of experts, and I think this has been the key to my success, to study various other events. So I publish also books on
Speaker 5The Boston Bombing on Orlando and Dallas, Charlottesville, Parkland, even The Moon Landing, which has sections on Osama bin Laden and on Paul McCartney. Because for those of you who may not know, Paul actually died in 1966 and was replaced by an even better musician. We're so familiar with him today that if you were shown pictures of the real Paul versus Paul today, who's four inches taller, by the way,
Speaker 5You would think that the other was the fake and that the guy you're so familiar with the real. Anyway, Amazon has banned all six of those books, all six. So when Laurie began the book banning business, yeah, she's absolutely right. In fact, Mike Adams was the one investigating journalist who got seriously interested in my case.
Speaker 5He wrote columns about it, even did an interview with me about it, where he referred to me as The Most Dangerous Mind in America. Very, very flattering. And I appreciated the exposure he was given. But the community here, the journalistic community is so sabotaged, so infiltrated. This ought to have been a very, very big deal.
Speaker 5The court case, they explained to me, was rigged. The judge, I had a massive evidence because of the book. So I actually, when I was served the summons, to respond to the lawsuit. The server said she'd never seen anyone so happy to be served with a lawsuit because I thought there was a perfect opportunity to get all my evidence vindicated through the judicial process.
Speaker 5Well, little did I suspect, but during the scheduling conference, I had no idea this could be done. The judge ruled that whether or not Sandy Hook was real didn't matter. to the authenticity of the death certificate over which I was being sued. Now think of the absurdity there. I had all this evidence. There was a FEMA drill where nobody died.
40:08Rigged Sandy Hook Court Case
Speaker 5And yet he was telling me that had nothing to do with whether or not a death certificate purporting to be of somebody who did die. I mean, it said right on the death certificate, Sandy Hook, multiple gunshot wounds, the whole bit that was not relevant. which was not only legally absurd, but a very clever move, but logically ridiculous.
Speaker 5I mean, it was just profoundly bizarre. I think if I had known more, if I weren't simply operating pro se, I could have handled a situation better because that remained in place. So what I did was to go about obtaining the reports of two forensic document experts. Now, The way in which the authenticity of documents is characteristically treated in court is by the testimony of experts.
Speaker 5So I didn't just have one, I had two. Now, the death certificate that was attached to the complaint, the summons, when I was sued, was a complete death certificate. It had a file number, it had a town certification that the content was accurate, a state certification it was a true copy, which was completely different from the incomplete death certificate that I had, a copy of which I had published in the book, which had been provided to Kelly by none other than the plaintiff, Leonard Posner.
Speaker 5So she had been talking with him for dozens and dozens of hours, telling her she didn't believe a word he said, didn't believe he had a son, didn't believe his son was dead, bah, bah, bah. And one day, Lenny says to her, Go to my Google Plus page and you'll see what you want. And there were several things there, including this death certificate, which did not have a file number, did not have state or town certification.
Speaker 5And it turns out that in the course of my research, I learned not even parents are allowed to have incomplete death certificates. But though those were two different death certificates, then you heard Casey mentioned Dame Gehary, who has Not only Money Tree Publishing, but Moonrock Books, where I publish all these books.
Speaker 5Dave is the owner of Moonrock Books. And it turned out that during the trial, he was also sued. I had a co-editor, Mike Palachuk, who actually had suggested the title, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook. And then when we published our next book, He suggested, and I suppose we didn't go to the moon either, which one might respond to hearing the title of the verse, Nobody Died at Sandy Hook.
Speaker 5But I'm telling you, the evidence was so cast iron, when the judge excluded it, I was dumbfounded. I got two forensic document experts, and the judge rejected them as well. Even though they were undisputed, unrebutted, there turned out to be a total of... Five different death certificates involved here, which on its very face would raise questions about what in the world's going on here.
Speaker 5Because not only was there the complete death certificate attached to the complaint, there was the partial, which Lenny had given to Kelly, which I'd published in the book. Since they weren't the same, you see, that would have been a basis for moving to dismiss the court case, which was my alternative. I could move to dismiss or I could fashion an answer.
Speaker 5But I was so eager to get all this evidence vindicated through the judicial prison that I gave the answer enumerating all these proofs I had, one after another after another, including the FBI Consolidated Crime Report for 2012, which shows in the category for murders in Newtown, zero. I mean, after all, if it were authentic, that ought to have been 20 children and six adults and the shooter, Adam Lanza.
Speaker 5because a suicide is regarded as a homicide of a person by themselves. But no, the number is zero. And that number zero has remained there in the FBI report ever since it initially appeared. So you can go there today. Well, that was among my documents. So here was this judge excluding even a government, an official government report that substantiated my position
Speaker 5that nobody had died at Sandy Hook. He was doing this because it was a process under the law known as summary judgment that allows a judge, if there is no dispute on the facts between the participants, to simply rule as a matter of law. That's supposed to be in the interest of judicial efficiency. But here we could not have been more opposed
Speaker 5because Lenny Posner was claiming, of course, it was a real shooting, 20 kids, six adults, blah, blah. And here I was denying it, saying it was a FEMA drill. Nobody died. The facts could not have been more in opposition, which meant I was entitled to a jury trial. But by excluding my evidence, he set it up where there were no more disputed facts because my facts weren't even taken into account.
Speaker 5And then when I had, nevertheless, these two forensic document experts who'd looked at four of the five, Dave Gehary obtained an additional copy from Newtown. I obtained an additional copy from the state. So before the oral hearing on the case, there were already four different death certificates. And the two forensic document experts, I concluded, but the one that I described as fake, where I was being sued for describing as fake,
Speaker 5was fake, but so were the other three. All of these deaths were fake. And of course they were fake because it was a FEMA drill. And now today, of course, as I'm telling you, I'm having confirmation from participants in the drill confirming and rounding out the whole story. It is stunning. So the judge simply excluded. He said it wasn't helpful to get those reports from the document expert, which just shows the shoddy character of
Speaker 5The Circuit Court level. And then when I appealed to the Wisconsin Court of Appeals for District 4, they said there were no disputed facts. And yet in consecutive paragraphs, they related that it was reasonable to believe the official account, 20 children, six adults killed. But it also had a reference to Neil Haslin having held his son in his arms.
Speaker 5When those who are familiar with the case know that The Medical Examiner declared that the parents weren't even allowed to see their children, that they were only identified by photographs. So even in their summary of the case, they had a contradiction of which they were unaware. Followed by my paragraph, that's the summary of my position, that it had been a FEMA drill, that nobody had died, and yet they went ahead to agree.
Speaker 5There were no disputed facts. I took it to the Wisconsin Supreme Court. They routinely rubber-stuck the So I wound up going before the United States Supreme Court. And I thought I really had a terrific case because during the course of all these deliberations and appeals, the Posner side had argued that the Seventh Amendment had never been certified by the Supreme Court as applying to all the states.
Speaker 5That the other nine of the first ten amendments had been affirmed by the court, but that had, the Seventh had not. So I thought, well, isn't this a perfect case for the Supreme Court to declare the Seventh Amendment applies to all 50 states? And I had a 14th Amendment issue here, too, because we're entitled to equal justice under law, and yet the summary judgment procedures in Texas only allow the judge to ask, are the positions consistent or not consistent, not to weigh and eliminate one.
Speaker 5because he didn't like it or didn't think it was reasonable, which is still allowed to happen here in Wisconsin. Well, the Supreme Court chose not to follow up, so I submitted an appeal for reconsideration. In the meanwhile, I had a private detective by the name of Brian Davidson, really expert, do an affidavit for me.
Speaker 5He'd gone into the Connecticut State Police files and he discovered, first of all, all the metadata had been removed. Now that's evidence of consciousness of guilt because you need that metadata to get evidence photographing certified in a court case because it tells you when and where it was taken. Typically it has to be verified by the photographer who took it.
Speaker 5So they eliminated the metadata to preclude its entry as evidence in Sandy Hook. but thereby created massive evidence of a cover-up by the Connecticut State Police. He also reviewed copies of their various photographs. And for example, in one where you're supposed to have the bodies of the principal and the school psychologist and a pool of blood, there are no bodies and no pool of blood in another classroom where there's supposed to be a stack of little kids' bodies.
49:41Connecticut State Police photo evidence
Speaker 5There's not only no stack of little kids' bodies and no blood, there aren't even any desks or any chairs and all the furniture is pushed up against the wall. So not only did he obtain from the Connecticut State Police files evidence of no mass murder having occurred, but also proof that it wasn't even an operating school.
Speaker 5I have sought to resurrect my case since the Supreme Court rejected it and discovered that the Wisconsin courts are Michael Rectenwald Ph.D., Bricius Lipscombus, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
Speaker 5There's a formal procedure that must be followed. The other party has to be given an opportunity to respond. And then the originating party to make a reply. He didn't even do that. He just rejected him out of hand, including a motion that he be recused. Well, I think the evidence was growing so weighty that he knew he ran the risk of either being recused from the case or removed from the bench.
Speaker 5So he retired five and a half years early. to evade the consequences of his dereliction of duty. And now I kept going with the Supreme Court. I had three different appeals in this case, one in 2022, one in 2024, one in 2026. And would you believe on 10 October, what is this? 28, 18 days ago, the Supreme Court rejected all three without a word of explanation, no response, no briefing.
Speaker 5really confirming the corrupt state of the judiciary in Wisconsin which I'm now writing articles about submitting to law reviews and appealing to the Wisconsin Judicial Council to undertake the kind of reforms that are necessary because Ron Avery who actually published a book about my case convinced me it could only be resolved by legislation changing the standards
Speaker 5for summary judgment and for something also known as summary disposition at the appellate level in order to get things right. So that's what I'm about now. But I just say, this is a stunning case. The deeper you get into that more disillusioned you become because it shows how artfully the judicial system can be abused.
Speaker 5So at everyone who has been skeptical about the judiciary, I can give you a case study that proves All the key points. Sad to say.
Ian MalcolmWell, James, very fiery introduction there. And I suppose very relevant because we can perhaps take some of the theories that you have on that event. And I just want to call out for everybody up here, the views of all the speakers are their own. Those of the speakers do not reflect on the hosts and co-hosts. and not denying any specific violent events or things of that nature in line with the terms and service of X, rather just poking holes in what look like some inconsistencies with the official government narrative and other things for either educational or journalistic purposes.
Ian MalcolmI just want to call that out because I know Mossad is listening in with their happy ears as they always do. But James, so this, let's say if we were to look, for example, at That piece of the past and then to try to fast forward to the present where we're looking at things like Charlie Kirk. I mean, I have my own opinions, which is that when it comes to the official Tyler Robinson narrative, there are a lot of extreme inconsistencies there within.
Ian MalcolmAnd I know that other individuals on X like Diligent Denison and obviously Candace Owens have done a lot of work on that subject. But More than anything else, the most damning aspect of it, in my opinion, is the fact that obviously Charlie Kirk was becoming very anti-Israel, not only in terms of his rhetoric around the nation of Israel and the prospect of war with Iran, but also, of course, some of the commentary that he had made around
Ian MalcolmLet's just say Jewish donors and their interest in a lot of liberal and left-wing policies, including mass migration, for example. So if we look at that and we say, okay, Charlie Kirk was overtly pushing back on those things. And Dr. Strange, who's in the room as a listener right now, did an incredible video that kind of compiled a whole bunch of those clips into one.
Ian MalcolmMakes a very compelling argument that he would have been staunchly against what has basically taken place since his death. And then you look at what happened with Turning Point USA in the aftermath and it basically adopted all of the very things that he was against. And so when you add in the fact that he had said something like 48 hours before his death, that he feared for his life, that he was worried that Israel was prospectively coming after him, that he had turned down money and funding specifically from Netanyahu and his team.
Ian MalcolmYou look at all those pictures, it comes to a pretty obvious conclusion. So I'm kind of curious, based on everything that you looked at with that court case and the experience that you personally went through, I'd be curious for your thoughts not only on what might have happened with Charlie Kirk, but maybe even more importantly, your thoughts on the judicial system and the lack of integrity that you might presume, given what you've personally gone through.
Speaker 5Oh, yeah, yeah, and do call me Jim. Actually, I've had shows where I was called Jim the Conspiracy Guy. It originated right here locally in Madison, where a local radio host would have me in every couple of weeks, and he'd always call me the Conspiracy Guy to talk about the latest developments, because I've done a huge amount on JFK 9-11.
Speaker 5and a whole host of other of these issues now.
Ian MalcolmAnd Jim, on 9-11 and JFK at 50,000 feet, are you like-minded in thinking that it was essentially Israel or otherwise kind of Jewish, what I would call Jewish supremacy?
Speaker 5Well, 9-11 was essentially an Israeli op, Mossad, with the help of the CIA, the neocons and the Department of Defense, aiding and abetting them, especially Dick Cheney. was really the on the ground manager.
Speaker 5We have a new thesis from Lawrence Garnier that there were really two separate attacks that Israel was handling the World Trade Center. And Larry Silverstein turns out to have been a personal friend of Bibi Netanyahu. They spoke on the phone every Sunday. The whole transfer was made by Port Authority, which is dominated by Jewish Zionists to get it into private hands.
Speaker 5And then Larry changed the security firm that had been looking after the World Trade Center since 1970 and brought in an Israeli firm and changed the insurance for the World Trade Center to include an anti-terrorist clause. So when he could claim there were two different attacks, he got double damnity and then pocketed about $4.5 billion on $114 million investment.
Speaker 5Now, the Pentagon appears to have been an add-on by Cheney and Rumsfeld. because they knew if it were only New York City and the World Trade Center, that would just be a terrorist attack, but it wouldn't justify invading all these other countries. So they had to have a hit on the Pentagon, which was completely contrived.
Speaker 5No plane hit the Pentagon. In fact, I've done a massive amount of research. I founded an organization called Scholars for 9-11 Truth in December of 2005. I brought together hundreds of experts from all around the world engineers of every type, structural, civil, mechanical, electrical, aeronautical, physicists, pilots, the whole bit.
Speaker 5I've done a huge amount of work on the crash sites. All four, Ian, all four of the 9-11 crash sites were fabricated or faked, albeit in different ways. Two of the planes weren't even in the air. 11, the North Tower, and 77, the Pentagon, weren't even in the air. And get this, the other two, 93 Shanksville and 175, the South Tower, were still in the air after they'd officially crashed in Shanksville or hit the South Tower.
58:40Fabricated 9-11 Crash Sites
Speaker 5Pilots for 9-11 Truth did brilliant work on this. Flight 93 was over Champaign-Urbana, Illinois after it allegedly crashed. 175 was over Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. After it officially hit the South Tower, Ivan obtained Federal Aviation Administration registration records that showed that the physical aircraft used for those two flights were not even taken out of service until 28 September 2005, raising questions like, how can planes that weren't even in the air have crashed on 9-11?
Speaker 5And how can planes that crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later? As far as JFK, this is the most complicated, sophisticated murder mystery in all of history. It originated in Los Angeles in 1960 when JFK beat Lyndon for the presidential nomination. Now, he invited Stuart Symington of Missouri to be his running mate, but he gave him overnight to think about it.
Speaker 5Bobby went by the Johnson suite to extend a pro forma symbolic invitation to run with Jack. And he was absolutely stunned when LBJ jumped on it. He threatened to expose that Jack had Addison's disease, wasn't expected to live a long, healthy life, that among his dalliances was one with a beautiful woman who turned out to be a spy for East Germany.
Speaker 5And if he were not on the ticket, that any legislative proposal sent down by the White House would be dead on arrival because in his position as a powerful majority leader of the Senate, he'd bottle them up. Jack and Bobby were flummoxed. Lyndon had them boxed in. He had to accede to Lyndon's demand and accept him as his running mate.
Speaker 5When one of Lyndon's wealthy backers discovered this, he was outraged. He burst into the Johnson suite cursing and swearing. because now LBJ would help JFK become president. Bobby Baker took him into a bedroom and explained what they had in mind. He came out all smiles. Bobby Baker would later declare Jack wouldn't live out his first term and that he would die a violent death.
Speaker 5And in the sequence of events as they unfolded, Lyndon Johnson would send Cliff Carter, his chief administrative assistant down to Dallas to make sure all the arrangements were in place for the assassination.
Speaker 6Ian, are you there?
@joann_marieOh, I thought it was me and I was about to recycle. Sorry, James. I think Ian is trying to talk, but we can hear him. So let me... Yeah, he's trying to open his mic. Let me... Nope.
Speaker 5I see Ian with his mic muted. Yeah, would any of you like to comment or have a question about this? I have four books on JFK, again, bringing together groups of experts, two on 9-11. I've actually been flown around the world to give lectures on 9-11. When Alex Jones did his American Scholars Conference in Los Angeles in 2006, he invited me to be the keynote speaker.
Speaker 5And when C-SPAN did a... interviewed a panel discussion moderated by Alex. All four of the panelists were from scholars. Steve Jones, a physicist from BYU who might invite to be my co-chair, Bob Bowman, who was a Korean War ace. He shot down 101 North Korean jets, but actually he was there because he had a degree in nuclear engineering from Caltech and had been the advisor on Star Wars.
Speaker 5for Reagan and Ford, Webster Tarpley, who published a quite brilliant book, 9-11 Synthetic Terror Made in the USA. So Webster wants to deny Israel's fundamental role here. And then myself as a founder, where I gave my top 10 reasons we knew the hijackers were fake. and C-Span. It ran an hour and 45 minutes.
@joann_marieHold on, James. I'm so sorry. Guys, if the space crashes, please follow Ian and he will open right back and follow Mandy as well and James and put your notifications on so that you see when he opens and it will be in just a couple of minutes. Sorry, it's glitching. I apologize, James. But Ian, are you back?
Ian MalcolmIs it working? Yes. So, James, we often get some glitchy spaces. The Last Ten Minutes, in particular, after you started talking about 9-11, I often get this reconnecting glitch at the top of the screen, which Godfrey has actually suggested is tied to Pegasus, which is kind of scary, but it's... Instead of going off every maybe two or three minutes, it's going off, or it was going off every about 10 to 15 seconds after you started talking about 9-11, which is kind of freaky.
Ian MalcolmIt seems like there's some interest that might not like what you're saying, to say the least.
Speaker 5Yeah, that's really quite telling me. Yeah, no, I was explaining 9-11 was an Israeli op. This was run by the Mossad, and it was actually two parts. because they took care of business with the World Trade Center, where Larry Silverstein is a personal friend of E.B. Netanyahu. They talk every Sunday. But where the Pentagon attack was a separate matter, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld appear to have orchestrated that, knowing that if it were merely New York, then it could be discounted as a terrorist attack.
Speaker 5It couldn't justify invading other countries. So you had to have a hit on our military command and control center. Two of the planes on 9-11 weren't even in the air, 11 North Tower and 77 Pentagon. The other two were still in the air after they allegedly crashed or hit, namely 93 was in the air over Champaign-Urbana, Illinois after it officially crashed in Shanksville, and 175
Speaker 5was over in Harrisburg and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania after it officially hit the South Tower, where I obtained FAA registration records showing the physical aircraft for those two flights were still in service, not taken out until 2005 on 28 September, raising questions like, how can planes that weren't even in the air crashed on 9-11, and how can planes that crashed on 9-11 have still been in the air four years later?
Ian MalcolmNo, it's absolutely wild. And you were talking about JFK and this idea. I mean, I had not heard this, James, this this concept or Jim, that that JFK essentially went to LBJ and said, look, or Bobby Kennedy did said, hey, would you want to be the VP? That they were incredibly surprised that LBJ took him up on it, but that LBJ basically had gone off, had some conversation with somebody.
Ian Malcolmwho then walked out and said basically instead of being upset I'm really excited which I mean the implication would be that they knew they were going to take him out shortly after that selection was made on the VP level and you were then saying or the last thing I heard was you were talking about making arrangements in Dallas and we know obviously that the very people that invited JFK to Dallas for that event were tied to the same usual suspects it's crazy yeah yeah yeah yeah
Speaker 5Yeah, it was LBJ who induced him to come down to Dallas. Henry Gonzalez, who was a congressman in Texas, said, don't do it. He checked with his Secret Service, and they told him there were no threats to his life in 100 miles of Dallas, which was rubbish. The Secret Service were in on it. They set him up for the hit. There were multiple shooters.
1:07:35JFK's Eight Shooters Identified
Speaker 5Lee Oswald was actually standing in the doorway of the Book Depository when the motorcade passed by. So he not only cannot have been the lone demented gunman, it cannot have been one of the, I've identified, get this, he had eight different assassins. There were eight shooters in the Elite Plaza. How did that happen? Well, Linda was very, very clever.
Speaker 5And he really essentially had each of the sponsors put up their own gunman. So you had the CIA. Jack had threatened to take the CIA and shatter it into a thousand pieces. They put up a shooter. You had the Joint Chiefs. They were upset because Jack had supported an invasion of Cuba against their unanimous recommendation.
Speaker 5And he'd signed an above-ground testbed treaty with the Soviets against their unanimous opposition. And he was now pulling our forces out of Vietnam where they felt a stand had to be taken against The expansion of international godless communism. They put up their shooter. The mafia thought they had some kind of arrangement and if they supported the election and made sure Chicago went for Jack and they would win the election, all which happened, that he'd lay off of the mob.
Speaker 5But Bobby brought more indictments and convictions than ever before in history. They have their own shooter. The anti-Castro Cubans Well, Jack had betrayed them at the Bay of Pigs. He actually made clear from the beginning there must be no formal U.S. government involvement. But the CIA let him believe that Jack had betrayed him.
Speaker 5So they had their shooter. The Texas oil men were worried because Jack was threatening to cut the oil depletion allowance. So they had their shooter, Israel. David Ben-Gurion and Jack were at loggerheads because... Israel wanted to develop its own nuclear program. Jack opposed it on the ground. It would initiate a nuclear arms race in the Middle East.
Speaker 5They had their shooter, the Fed, where Jack had used the Department of Treasury to print United States notes at no interest, were worried they were going to be circumvented or abolished. They had their shooter, and Lyndon had his own personal hitman. I can tell you the name, the location, the shots they took for seven of the eight.
Speaker 5The only one not is the fed shooter who was on the south, though he was on the grass opposite the grass, you know. We have photographs of him there, but I do not know his identity, what shot he may or may not have taken or what effect. But I can tell you, name, rank, and serial number for the other seven.
Ian MalcolmThat is why, and I can certainly agree with the, The interest of all those groups that you just mentioned, I didn't know. So is it your assertion then that all seven of those different people all shot roughly at the same time? Because I know the magic bullet theory, right? That whole thing, it seemingly shot a hole in the case.
Ian MalcolmNo pun intended.
Speaker 5Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Here's the deal. Here's the deal. George Herbert Walker Bush was in charge of the Oppenbele Plaza. He was assisted by Edward Lansdale. who is famous for assassinations around the world, including especially a Phoenix program in Vietnam. Lansdale appears to have positioned the shooters and determined the sequence of shots.
Speaker 5Now, after they turned from Houston onto Elm, the first hit on Jack was fired by a Dallas deputy sheriff named Harry Weatherford from the top of the county records building. Now, that was intended to implant a Mannlicher-Cartano bullet that had previously been fired by the weapon they were going to frame Oswald with. And it had to be done using a plastic collar known as a sabot.
Speaker 5So you had a special charge to implant this Mannlicher Carcano bullet using a .30-06. Jim Mars and I discussed this extensively and completely agreed about it. So the shot actually only interjects back as far as the second knuckle on your little finger didn't exit. This bullet, appears to have worked its way out in the limousine.
Speaker 5So when Sam Kinney, who is a driver of the Secret Service Cadillac, was given a bucket of water and a sponge, he found the whole slog in the limo and took it inside and left it on a stretcher where it would become the magic bullet. Now, the second shot was fired from inside the triple underpass by an Air Force expert representing the Joint Chiefs.
Speaker 5using a weapon that he'd been given by Curtis LeMay, who was the head of the Air Force, so he'd know this was being done because Jack Kennedy was a communist. I mean, that's what they told him. He fired the bullet through the windshield. It hit JFK in the neck, in the throat. Now, world authority on the human brain explained to me personally, when we were flying to Dallas in 1993, where he was going to speak,
Speaker 5that he believed that bullet had fragmented, that a part had gone downward into the right lung and the other part upward to sever this very tough membrane that covers a cerebellum, which is a compact part of the brain at the base, just above the brain stem. Because when the physician at Parkland examined the body and there was this fist-sized blow at the back of the head, it was extruding cerebellar as well as cerebral tissue.
Speaker 5And he, Bob Livingston, by name, told me that could only have happened if the Tentorium had ruptured and that even close impact of several other bullets would not have led for that happening, that it had to have been previously severed. Now, he appeared to be still alive, but he was wearing a back brace. He had this injury from World War II.
Speaker 5It was like a canvas corset. Michael Rectenwald, Bricius Lipscombus, CLG News, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
Speaker 5He was hit in the back of the head by a shot. He slumped forward, Jack eased him back up, was looking him right in the face. And that shot, by the way, to the back of the head was fired by the anti-Castro Cuban, Tony Escudero from the Daltech second floor. There was a broom closet for a uranium mining company that was a CIA asset.
Speaker 5He fired three shots. with a Mannlicher Carcano that was in much better shape than the one that was used initially to frame Oswald. But when they moved all the evidence to Washington, they made a substitution. So that would have been the weapon from which the bullet that was fired by the deputy sheriff in the back had been obtained.
Speaker 5He fired three shots because a weapon is so unreliable. He had two misses, one at which he had a distant curbing and injured a bystander there by the name of James Tague. and a second that hit the chrome strip over the windshield. But the third, after the limo had been brought to a halt, hit Jack in the back of the head.
Speaker 5So he slumps forward. Jackie's in back. She's looking him right in the face when he's hit the right temple by the mob shooter, Frank Sturgis, who is located at the intersection of the triple underpass and the picket fence. There was an above ground sewer opening. near simultaneously by the Israeli shooter Clyde Foreshaw and the side just by the right here where the simultaneous impact or near blew this half his brains out the back of his head.
Speaker 5That's why Jackie was climbing up, going out on the trunk. She was after this big chunk of Jack's skull and brains. And then he just slumped to the left, okay? Now, if you look at the current version of the Zapruder film, You get this violent back and to the left, but that's because when they edited the film, they took out the limo stop during which these three shots to the head occurred and tried to combine the shot from the back where it starts to slump forward with the other shot, but they took out too many frames.
Speaker 5So if you look at it now, you think, oh, wow, isn't it obvious he was shot from the front? But nobody there. saw this violent back into the lab. That was an artifact of editing the film to suppress the evidence about the true causes of death. So we had other shooters firing other shots that were insignificant, except that Linden shooter, Malcolm Mack Wallace, was in the book depository, the opposite side.
Speaker 5were no shots were fired from the alleged assassin's lair. Shooting at John Connolly in the mistaken belief it was Ralph Yarborough, who was a liberal Texas Senator Lyndon despised. John Connolly and he were buddies. The fact is there was a huge argument between LBJ and JFK that morning because Lyndon wanted to get Connolly out and Yarborough in, but Jack overrode him on the ground that the chief executive of the state
Speaker 5should ride with the chief executive of the United States. And it was too late to get the word out. So although Mack Wallace was an excellent shooter, he may have fired, he fired two, probably two, maybe three shots at Conley by mistake. He did hit Conley in the back. He may also have hit Conley in the right wrist and a fragment wound up in his left thigh.
Speaker 5Conley survived. And the fact is that it obfuscated the politics of the assassination. No one would believe that Lemon would deliberately put his buddy, his crony, John Connolly in harm's way. Now the CIA guy had become a Dallas cop. He was on the grassy knoll. He used a handgun to fire at JFK, except it would have hit Jackie.
Speaker 5They were under explicit instruction, she must not be harmed. And to make it very clear, Instead of getting a huge bouquet of yellow roses as she had at two earlier stops, she got a huge bouquet of red roses, meaning stop. So he had to pull his shot. The bullet wound up in the grass opposite where a detective picked it up and it disappeared forever.
Speaker 5Now, as I say, there was this additional gunman on the south row on the grass for which we have photographs, but I do not know his identity. and let's see, who would I have left out? I mean, I mentioned the deputy sheriff for, he was a Texas oilman shooter. And I've mentioned the joint chief shooter. His name was Jack Lawrence, by the way.
Speaker 5He was inside the triple underpass that shot through the windshield. I mentioned the mob shooter who had Jack in the right temple. The Israeli shooter hit him in the side of the head. The CIA shooter who had the bullet shot, Lyndon's shooter, you know, those are some of the basics. I spell all this out in many, many different places.
Ian MalcolmI mean, I think that, JoAnn, I don't know if you have a similar thought. That might be the most comprehensive suggestion in terms of what took place with JFK. And really quickly, Jim, that piece on The Zapruder film. I'm curious, your suggestion there is that the whole thing is spliced together, which does explain a lot of kind of anomalies that are within that.
Ian MalcolmI mean, obviously we know who was releasing that, but can you share kind of how that might have come together? Because that's an angle I have not really heard that much about in the past.
1:20:20The Great Zapruder Film Hoax
Speaker 5Yeah, the original film, which was attributed to... You know, Abraham Zapruder was standing on a low colonnade there. I actually got up on that colonnade myself in Dealey Plaza when David Manick, who's a leading expert on the medical evidence, and I were reviewing various shooting locations. And Zapruder had actually taken the Zapruder film.
Speaker 5You wouldn't have had the limousine almost disappear at the bottom, see? That's because they had another camera set up on a tripod inside the pergola. So the original, whatever films that Bruder took was originally developed in Dallas at a Kodak lab there. And then it was transported to the National Photographic Interpretation Center in Washington, D.C., where they have labs to blow up satellite images.
Speaker 5So you've got these really tiny, tiny images. They blow them up to study. So they took the film there, original, as an eight millimeter cameras use a double, you know, a 16 millimeter wide film. They go down one side, eight millimeters wide, and you take out the film and flip it over and you do the other, the B side. So you got A side and the B side.
Speaker 5If you want to watch the whole thing, you have to split the film and then splice it together. and you'll get around a thousand frames. Now they set that, the original eight millimeter already split film the National Photographic Center and they had a team there who prepared a briefing board led by a guy named Bruglione who's world famous for his work on photo fabrication.
Speaker 5But Sunday, that was on Saturday, Sunday, a second, version of the film showed up, brought in by a Secret Service agent who identified himself as William Smith. It was a 16-millimeter unsplit film developed in Rochester. Now, CIA has a secret lab called Hawkeye Works adjacent to Godack headquarters where, as Bruno has said, they could do anything.
Speaker 5They could have had Jack doing backflips if they'd want it, okay? So they use the various original film to create a new synthetic, a fabricated version that took out what they wanted to take out, which, of course, included the limo stop, which is so terribly important. Now, I have a whole book on the film called The Great Zapruder Film Hoax with six, the six leading experts on the film.
Speaker 5And it turns out that The Limo Stop was really the most important part they had to eliminate from the film. And some of the work they've done on this is just simply brilliant. Simply brilliant.
@joann_marieAnd, James, Zapruder is an Ukrainian Jew, right?
Speaker 5I'm sorry, I couldn't quite hear. Zapruder what?
@joann_marieIs an Ukrainian Jew. Of Ukrainian Jewish descent.
1:23:37Zapruder's Complicity in JFK Cover
Speaker 5Zapruder is Jewish. Now, here's the tale. Here's the tale. The way they redid the film, they took a blob. I think they actually moved the blowout from the back of the head toward the right front, toward the right temple, because they wanted to claim he'd have the blowout. The bullet had come out the front of his forehead.
Speaker 5And Zapruder's on television that day. And it didn't actually happen that way. But you had Zapruder saying, putting his hand up to his right forehead, saying there was a blowout there at the right forehead. That tells you Zapruder was in on it. because it didn't actually happen. That was an artifact they added to the film when they redid it at Hawkeye Works.
Speaker 5So you know Zabruder was in on it. It was just not a mere coincidence he happened to be there on that colonnade taking the film. And since you see the limousine disappear, you know a lot of that footage was from the camera on the tripod. By the way, as I report in the book, I'm aware of six different people who have seen what they call the other film.
Speaker 5some of whom have seen it as many as three times and it includes the limo stop and you can see everyone is violently thrown forward because Greer stops the car so abruptly they're all thrown forward and then recover and then the turkey shoot continues personally I think Jack may have already been brain dead because that bullet that hit the throat if Bob is right and I believe he is right that it fragmented
Speaker 5and severed the Tentorium. That passed through his brain. Because any number of students have looked at the film and said, Jack seems to be paralyzed from this early position on Elm Street through the rest of it. And I think that is the simplest explanation. There are other, what I regard as fantastic explanations of, Poison Dart, or a Paralyzing Gun, or an Umbrella Gun.
Speaker 5Stuff I think is complete hocus pocus. Because here we have a simple explanation of what happened given Bob's correct about the thesis that the bullet transcended his brain. Here's something else. By taking him to Bethesda, they put themselves in the perfect position for a cover-up. Because JFK, having been a naval officer,
Speaker 5His medical records, including his x-rays, were there at Bethesda. So if they needed, for example, a new chest x-ray to obfuscate the fact this bullet had hit bone and fragmented, they could just provide a new chest x-ray. And it wasn't just a chest x-ray. It was a bona fide JFK chest x-ray. It just wasn't current.
Ian MalcolmWow. So your thought there is that they just swapped out some of the medical examiner or the coroner. Some of the imagery that they would have had of the body. Because, I mean, there are some photos that have floated around. But what you would be suggesting there, Jim, is that, I mean, he got, he must have been penetrated by what?
Ian MalcolmFour, five, six different bullets from different directions. And then they just sliced the video together to make it look like it was just a single set of shots.
Speaker 5That's right. That's right. They did their best. Now, they weren't quite able because you look at that altered version of the Zapruder. and you do have the violet back and to the left. But this was, see, this was so masterful. It was like murder on the Orient Express. I mean, this was a brilliant plan and it's hardly surprising it should have been so difficult to sort out.
Speaker 5And I've just been fortunate to work with the best people and to get input from multiple experts so I could piece it together. If anyone wants to read about this, Interestingly, my dear friend and colleague David Mantick recently cited Rob Reiner favorably, where Rob Reiner had a theory about how it was done. And I have a piece on my blog at jameshfetzer.org.
Speaker 5Rob Reiner meets JFK. Did Meathead solve the world's greatest murder mystery? And I go through it and explain why he was off on his theory of the case. and didn't actually identify. I mean, mentions, maybe six. He mentioned in passing, but doesn't give them a primary role of those I've identified as the actual shooters.
Speaker 5But I give you an overview there and you can even see a photograph of the Israeli shooter, which alone among them is still alive. And he's a serial killer. He's actually murdered over a thousand persons. He's unbelievable.
Speaker 1Wait, what's his name?
Speaker 5His name is Clyde Forshaw, and he's out of Toronto.
Ian MalcolmAnd Clyde Forshaw, you're saying that this was an Israeli shooter who's been involved in... No, I'm saying he was the assassin for the Israelis.
Speaker 5He's not, to my knowledge, he's not Jewish, but he's deadly. He's very clever. He's a master of disguise. And I had years and years of conversations with a woman who grew up with Clyde. And Clyde used to take her to where he'd kill people and share, you know, he just wanted to have someone to witness his accomplishments.
Speaker 5He viewed this as accomplishment. I mean, it's so bad. She was with this woman, I don't recall that, there's a hundred hours of my conversation with her on Olly Dammegaard's website, okay? Her name Haley Otis. 100 hours I recorded my conversation with Haley. Clyde was like this. Haley's talking to this woman and Clyde sort of comes along and she introduces them.
Speaker 5And five minutes later, she can't find anyone. And all of a sudden Clyde shows up and she asks, where is he? And he said he killed her. He had killed her the five minutes after just meeting her. I mean, the guy's unbelievably good. He's got the Toronto Police Department intimidated. They're all afraid of him. Haley tried for decades to get them to investigate because she had all the goods.
Speaker 5She had all the evidence. She had the proof. She was a witness. I was very worried about her because she was having trouble finding a place to reside and Clyde was stalking her. And I'm convinced, and this happened, oh, maybe a year ago, Clyde appeared to have caught up with her and taken her out.
@joann_marieAnd is she okay right now?
Speaker 5I'm convinced she's dead.
@joann_marieThat's horrific.
@joann_marieNo, this is so interesting, James.
Speaker 5Yeah, but you can learn about Hayley. I think her photograph is even on that same blog about Rob Reiner meets JFK on my blog at jameshfetzer.org.
Ian MalcolmWell, and on that, Jim, so I'd be curious because One of the things I find so wild about JFK isn't just his death, but then obviously of Bobby Kennedy. And then to bring in Hollywood and Rob Reiner, you, of course, go forward to the film JFK and just two pieces of it. Number one, produced by Arnon Milchan, a literal, essentially billionaire Israeli legitimate spy who we know was also involved with Benjamin Netanyahu in the smuggling of
Ian MalcolmSome of the nuclear switches. So like literally enemy number one for the United States. And yet, of course, he was allowed to make about, if I'm not mistaken, 150 different films, which included JFK. And then you look at the person behind the marketing for the film. And of all people, it was the Jew that was, of all things, he was the press secretary for Bobby Kennedy.
Ian MalcolmWho, after his speech, said, oh, why don't we take you out through the pantry, which is where the guy got assassinated.
1:31:52RFK Assassination and the Pantry
Speaker 5Ian, that is so observant of you. Yes, Tom Mekovits had Bobby. He was supposed to leave through the general audience to the auditorium, and they diverted him to the pantry. Haley says Clyde was there, and he was behind RFK. So I presume it was this Thane Eugene Caesar, the security guard, because Bobby was shot from an inch and a half behind the right ear and then shot more as he fell.
Speaker 5But he grabbed Caesar's tie. So his tie clasp is lying there on the floor of the pantry. So I don't know that Clyde actually had anything to do with it, but Haley strongly implied that he did.
Speaker 5You're really on top of this, Ian. I'm impressed. Okay, that's very good. Because, you know, these cases are so messy and the truth is so completely opposite what we've been told about. And one of the tales about Bobby is that Sir Ian was a Palestinian. See, that's what they do. They blame the Palestinians for everything.
Speaker 5It's like on 9-11.
@rectheregimeYou just have to have the answer. Yeah, Jim, on that note, I was wondering, you know, As you probably know, RFK Jr., he wrote an article for the San Francisco Chronicle in which he said Sirhan Sirhan was not responsible for his father's death, that he was shot.
@rectheregimeAnd he knows that they put a Palestinian in there to then, you know, use as, you know, evidence for the Israeli case against Palestinians and on and on.
@joann_marieHe was also under MKUltra, remember? Exactly.
Speaker 5So... Well, just a follow-up on that observation.
@rectheregimeSo, wait, I had a question. Just one question first, if you could. And that is... What do you make of RFK Jr.'s recent, not so recent, but his insane commentary about the Palestinians and about Israel of late, recently saying crazy things like the real Holocaust and the real genocide was the genocide of the Jews in the Middle East?
1:33:50RFK Jr's Pro-Israel Commentary
@rectheregimeBenny said that the Palestinians were the most pampered people in the history of the world. I mean, this guy is disgusting, groveling. So what do you make of this? He knows.
Speaker 5Yeah, go ahead. And there are many. I have one friend in particular. If they go to Israel and they come back completely different, I'm convinced they're using, you know, Michael Rectenwald Ph.D., Bricius Lipscombus, CLG News, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
Speaker 5The fact that this guy should be saying them is insulting. I agree with you 100%.
@rectheregimeBy the way, Jim, I just want to say what a treasure you are, and everybody should go to your website, and everybody should follow you. You are a national treasure, an important historian of our time, and I just wanted to give you the nod as a fellow academic, and I really respect your work.
Speaker 5Well, you know, I'm really tickled to be on here with you in this group. And I'll just say, if you go to my blog, JamesHFetzer.org, just do a search on Sandy Hook. Do a search on 9-11. Do a search on JFK. All kinds of stuff will show up. If you go to Moonrock Books, you can find what remains of the books that have been banned by Amazon.
1:35:59Banned Books and Research Resources
Speaker 5are still available at moonrockbooks.com, which is owned by Dave Gehary. And otherwise you can find, they haven't banned my books on JFK or 911 on Amazon. So you can also get those there. And I did a trilogy, Assassination Science, 1998, Murder in Dealey Plaza, 2000, and The Great Subruder Film Host, 2003, where even Vincent Bugliosi,
Speaker 5who was a defender of the Warren Report, said in this massive whitewash called Reclaiming History that mine were the only exclusively scientific books ever published on the assassination. Up to that point, I think he had it right. Though I regard David Lifton's best evidence as a single most important book ever published on the assassination, and mine I regard as sequels, subsequent
Speaker 5to the publication of those three. Doug Horn, who is a senior analyst for military records for the Assassination Records Review Board, has published five volumes inside the ARRB that are very, I'd say, exclusively scientific. And David Mandig has published several books of his own about the forensic evidence regarding the JFK head wounds.
Speaker 5and that all stuff is very, very impressive and very scientific. So, but if you want overviews, you know, I also do a huge number of video presentations where I've done so many they've sought to dilute by having a guy who's kind of a hit man come after me. So if you go on some of these websites, you'll be kind of startled.
Speaker 5I have a BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer. And if you go on there and look for my stuff on various subjects, you'll find there are a whole lot of these rather bizarre little videos attacking me and my colleagues. And I believe it's because the Sandy Hook Promise people, who continue to make a lot of money off of Sandy Hook, to the tune of a million bucks a month, they're still making all this money.
Speaker 5They're unhappy. with my friends in the community because they're friends of mine. And then you have the rest of the community that isn't involved one way or another. So I believe that the Promise people hired this guy as a hit guy to go after me to try to discredit me. And he wound up attacking a whole bunch of my friends and colleagues who were defending me.
Speaker 5So just be prepared. Simplest way, go to my blog and just do a search on the subjects that interest you the most and see what turns up. I'm very accessible. My email address is readily available. And I'm glad to hear from anyone who would like to raise questions or talk about any of these matters. And I think you're doing a good job.
Speaker 5And I'm very impressed with your detailed knowledge about that you've displayed here about several of these cases. I love it.
Ian MalcolmWell, there we go. Well, I'll tell you, Jim, I am. Thank you so much for having me.
Ian MalcolmOverarching Thesis, Jim, that if we look back at a lot of these incidents, whether it is JFK, it's RFK, it's the USS Liberty, it's up through 9-11. I think if we look at Charlie Kirk, I could make a similar suggestion. It seems like the hands are continuously in bed with these usual suspects that, again, I kind of loosely refer with the people I think that intellectually are aligned as this idea of Jewish supremacy where
Ian MalcolmIt's not even really just the protection of, for example, Israel, which loosely some people think of as Zionism. Because like you were saying there, you have, for example, the Federal Reserve, right? One of the interests that would have been aligned against JFK. And if you look at who benefits from that, it's the same set of interests, right?
Ian MalcolmSo you look at Hollywood, you look at finance, and now we've got big tech. And I'm sure that you've been on the receiving end as well of this. You look at big technology, social media platforms, and now the AI companies. They're all owned by the same little sets of interests, and there's the same topic that no matter how you try and discuss it, and I find it really funny.
Ian MalcolmWe had a conversation with somebody the other day who said that this thesis that AI was controlled by these interests, he went into AI, and after we had walked through the ownership of OpenAI, Anthropic, Meta, Google, we went through literally all of them. And he was like, you know, that is kind of weird. And he typed into AI, he said, are AI companies disproportionately controlled by Jewish interests?
Ian MalcolmAnd it said, that's an anti-Semitic trope.
Speaker 5Right, right.
Speaker 4Except for Jensen Huang.
Speaker 5Any criticism of Israel, of course, is automatically, by that token, anti-Semitic. You mentioned Oliver's film JFK. Yes, yes, it was produced by this Israeli billionaire. It is really the most accurate, complete, and comprehensive presentation of what actually happened in Deedley Plaza ever presented to the public through the mass media with three major caveats.
Speaker 5Number one, Oliver didn't understand that Lee was standing in the doorway and therefore cannot have been the shooter. Number two, he posited three sets of hitmen, but there are actually, as I've explained, eight. And number three, He thought the Zapruder film was authentic and intact when it's been massively edited. Those are the three faults.
Speaker 5So they primarily occurred because he was being advised by a guy named Robert Grodd, who is very well known in the JFK community as kind of a archivist and custodian of the photographic and the film record. But I'm sorry to say he's been on the wrong side. He was actually hired. by the House Select Committee on Assassinations as a special consultant to debunk the rumor that Lee had been standing in the doorway.
Speaker 5And he actually went out of his way to fabricate evidence to try to substantiate the fact that Lee was in the doorway. And let me mention Larry Rivera has done the most brilliant work on Lee in the doorway. And let me also mention Ralph Sinque, who really inspired the Oswald Innocence Campaign, which is predicated on the premise that Lee was actually standing in the doorway and therefore cannot have been the assassin of JFK, which is 100% right, where Larry Rivera has confirmed it with overlays.
Speaker 5In my various videos, I show them. I could, if you like Ian, get you, I'll give Casey, Links to, say, samples of some of my stuff on JFK and 9-11, you're welcome to share.
Speaker 7James, I'm a big fan of the whole JFK topic, and I was wondering what your input is on James Angleton, because I feel like JFK stories are not complete without the mention of James Angleton and also the creation of the Warren Commission.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah. Well, Lyndon created a Warren Commission to preempt all the investigations. There were multiple taking place that were actually making some progress, but he wanted to cut it off. So either he personally or Cliff Carter reached out to the DA in Dallas and told them they got their man, you know, to shut down investigations of conspiracy.
Speaker 5Now, Angleton, of course, was the head of...
Speaker 5espionage, you know, he really was in a position to do huge damage to the United States on behalf of Israel. And I agree with all that. Among JFK's many dalliances, and he did have a lot of sexual escapades with women, there are multiple reasons why that happened. But one was with
Speaker 5A woman, Mary Myers, who is a former wife of Cord Meyer, who was the head of covert activities when JFK was shot. So that, in fact, E. Howard Hutt, on his deathbed, he actually survived, but he thought he was dying, confessed to his son, St. John. And I've met St. John, and we've talked about this. that the chain of command went from LBJ to Cord Meyer to David Attlee Phillips, who was in charge of CIA for Western Hemisphere, to William Harvey, who was in charge of CIA assassinations, to David Sanchez Morales for the Dallas Op.
Speaker 5I'm telling you that George H.W. Bush was even in the Daltex with the anti-Castro shooter in the Daltex building when he fired those three shots. He was arrested when he came out of the Dow tax. He used his cover story of being an independent Houston oilman. He was questioned and then released. He actually brought W with him.
Speaker 5And we even have photos of W looking puzzled because he has no idea where his father is because he was arrested and being questioned. So that really is as close as you're going to get to a comprehensive overview. And then I filled in the blanks. Well, Sean, did you like that answer?
Speaker 7Yeah, yeah.
@joann_marieIt was amazing, right?
Speaker 7Right. This guy's awesome. I wanted to add that James Angleton was somebody that JFK had a lot of issues with. I'm pretty sure he fired him about a year or so prior to him getting assassinated. And then Lyndon Johnson hired this guy to lead the whole Warren Commission that was in charge of finding out who killed JFK.
Speaker 5You're thinking of Alan Dulles.
Speaker 8Alan Dulles, right, right, right. Yeah, I'm thinking of Alan Dulles, right, right, right.
Speaker 5Because, see, get this. Earl Campbell was the mayor of Dallas at the time. Actually, it turns out, joined the CIA in like 1957. It was his brother, Charles, who was a deputy director of the CIA at the time, who was fired by JFK in the wake of the Bay of Pigs fiasco. for having misled him. And he was such an icon in the intel community that it reinforced their impression that JFK must be a communist.
Speaker 5But look, he was the brother. Charles Cabell was a brother of Earl Cabell. Dallas Dealing Plaza, that was their backyard. I mean, there's a perfect place to set up an assassination. Perfect.
@joann_marieJim, you're amazing. You know so, so, so much. All right.
Speaker 5I've been at it for a long time and have the benefit of wonderful colleagues.
@joann_marieHow did you wake up for the first time?
Speaker 6I'm sorry?
@joann_marieHow did you realize all of this pattern for the first time?
Speaker 5Oh, I got involved in JFK back in 1992 when the...
1:48:56JFK Research Origins in 1992
Speaker 5I was just lying in bed reading a paper, drinking a cup of coffee. My wife came in and flipped on the TV and said, you're not going to believe this. And I saw a very distinguished guy denouncing everyone who'd done serious work on the assassination, like David Lifton and Jim Garrison and Weisberg, Harold Weisberg.
Speaker 5Charles Crenshaw is a contributor to Assassination Science. He was a physician in Dallas at Barclin. Published a book, Conspiracy of Silence, explained how they'd all been threatened with the loss of their professions if they ever talked about the treatment of JFK in trauma room number one. So I knew this was ridiculous.
Speaker 5And it occurred to me that if someone, it turned out to be the editor in chief of the Journal of the AMA, George Lombard. Well, I already have a lot of experience with editing. I've been an editor for 10 years, a co-associate editor of Synthes, an international journal for epistemology, methodology, and the philosophy of science.
Speaker 5I even found an international journal on artificial intelligence, cognitive science, and philosophy called Minds and Machines, one of the most successful journals in the world today.
@rectheregimeLucas Gage better move over, right? Right, guys? There's this guy that's pretending to be a philosopher. You know, he's a fallout of propaganda or something that got to him. But anyway, he's now claiming to be a philosopher while he has AI writing his papers.
Speaker 5Who are we talking about?
@rectheregimeLucas Gage is his name. Yeah, he's infamous in these circles.
Speaker 5Well, here's the deal. So it occurred to me that if someone of his degree of stature was abusing his journal for political purposes, perhaps some of us with specialized background and ability ought to become involved. So I followed subsequent issues of the journal because the head of our medical school was a subscriber and found a letter to the editor complaining about this.
Speaker 5from a fellow by the name of David W. Mantic, MD, PhD. So I liked what he had to say. I reached out to him and suggested we collaborate on a long article or a book and others wanted to join and participate. That rather was the event that launched me as far as putting all the pieces together. It was when I started identifying the shooters and you know, Harry Weatherford,
Speaker 5Dallas Deputy Sheriff, Jack Lawrence, Air Force expert. This guy, Roscoe White, I don't think I mentioned his name before. He was a CIA guy. It occurred to me at that point in time that it appeared that different sponsors each had their own shooter. And when I followed it up, I found confirmation right around the clock for all of this.
Speaker 5And the big pieces fell into place. It was when I got to the point I'd become in a tentative way starting to look at the number of shots and where they've been, from what locations they've been fired in assassination science in 1998. But it's not until you get to my fourth book, JFK, Who, How, and Why, 2016, I think, that I'm laying it out that way because that's a framework.
Speaker 5You divide the case into the sponsors, the facilitators, and the mechanics. The mechanics are the shooters and their supervisors, who were George H.W. Bush and Edward Lansdale. The sponsors, CIA, Joint Chiefs, Mafia, Anticastro Cubans, Israel, Fed, Dallas Oilmen, and Lyndon Johnson. And then the facilitators who made it happen,
1:53:08JFK Sponsors and Shooters Identified
Speaker 5of the assassination LBJ of the cover-up, J. Edgar Hoover, who hated the Kennedys. They had a home adjacent to one another. I think Edgar was the godfather to one of Lyndon's daughters. I mean, they were very tight. That information about Jack having Alzheimer's, I mean, having Addison disease and this dalliance with East German, that came from Edgar for Lyndon to use to force his way onto the ticket to set it up.
Speaker 5Even Jack Ruby said, if someone else had been vice president, he even said Adlai Stevenson, this would never have happened. That's absolutely right. Spot on.
@joann_marieJames is like Trudy Turner. Like he recalls every single name and date and last name of absolutely everything. You're absolutely like, I'm mind blown, James.
Ian MalcolmAnd Jim, just to replay that. So your thought is without LBJ, who some I think truth teller would suggest was was he would refer to it as a crypto Jew. You're saying without LBJ as the vice president, none of this would have followed with with JFK, is your thought?
Speaker 5Yeah, see, because since Lyndon would become president, he could guarantee that nobody involved in the assassination would ever be punished. Remember, he has the power. of the pardon and all that. I mean, he was the guy who would manipulate, create the Warren Commission as a distraction. They had all the evidence filtered.
Speaker 5They even changed testimony. The staff changed testimony given before the Warren Commission because it was all a whitewash. And then you had a similar thing with 9-11. The 9-11 Commission, we actually, Henry Kissinger declined the honor. of being the executive director because he didn't want to reveal all his financial entanglements.
Speaker 5So he turned to Philip Zelikow, who was a professor of history. And guess what? Zelikow's area of specialization as an academician is the creation and maintenance of public myths, M-Y-T-H-S. So he became the director of the 9-11 Commission. And I'm convinced he wrote the script. He wrote the script. He actually had a draft of the report done a year before it shared it with any member of the staff.
Speaker 5I mean, talk about putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.
Ian MalcolmNo, and I brought up LBJ there because I can't help but notice some of the kind of consistent patterns here because obviously with the USS Liberty, We've been very honored to be able to speak with some of the veterans that were actually on the ship itself, and Paul Turney in particular, who had some very choice words about LBJ, who of course was quoted saying essentially that he didn't care what would happen, he wasn't going to embarrass his friends in the Middle East.
Ian MalcolmAnd so you look at this and it's starting to kind of fit the same little pattern that you're referring to here.
Speaker 5LBJ was all in on the Liberty. The pilots were even going back, you know, telegraphing this flying an American flag. They were directed to hit it anyway. It was going to be blamed on Egypt and used to bring the U.S. in. But Moshi Dayan was such a brilliant general. He didn't need help from the U.S. He had this all locked up in six days.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and Phil turning the rest of the Good people. Bill Turney and the rest.
Ian MalcolmI'm curious for your thoughts on the growing awareness that perhaps the greatest ally, quote-unquote, of the United States might be more of an anchor than it is an engine, especially given everything that's escalating with Iran and Netanyahu and all this other insanity in the Middle East. I'm kind of curious for maybe the temperature of people that at one point in time might have said, oh, Jim is a...
Ian MalcolmWild conspiracy theorists that are now kind of seeing the undeniable writing on the wall.
Speaker 5No, I think you're right. And I'm overjoyed that the country's turned against Israel. When Trump first came into office, Israel had a 51 point favorability standing. Today, it has like a 16 point negative. It's fallen tremendously. It's so bad, Ian, that AIPAC, Recipients of AIPAC money can't even acknowledge it because it's such a colossal negative.
Speaker 5So they can't be public about it anymore. I think it's going to be a wipeout in the midterms, deservedly so, because Trump has betrayed us. And it's the war issue that is the most central to this, where it's going to be a repudiation of Trump, not an endorsement of the Democrats. But a massive repudiation of Trump and the Republicans who let him get away with all of this.
Ian MalcolmYeah, and I'm concerned. And I have this thesis, Jim. I'd be curious for your thoughts, again, given the breadth of experience that you have on these subjects. You know, I have this prism that I look through, which always kind of goes back to this North Star, which is essentially that at least for the last 20, 30, 40 years,
Ian MalcolmThe right wing of, let's say, U.S. politics has essentially been corrupted by, you know, we loosely think of them as neocons. I just basically would define them as Zionists. And then on the left wing, you've got basically the Bolsheviks slash communists who, you know, on the right side, it's export all of the military and all of the finance.
Ian Malcolmboth to this cabal of let's just call them banking elites and the military over to fight Middle Eastern conflicts for 30 plus years. If not, you can actually go back to the Korean War and Vietnamese War and it's like, oh, it's the same interest again. But, you know, you could go back maybe 50, 60, 70 years. And then on the left wing side, you've got, again, the Bolsheviks that just seem to be attacking and deteriorating the middle class and let's say,
Ian MalcolmI'm curious for your thoughts on what this anti-Trump, anti-Republican sentiments could mean because to me it just looks like we're going to get a whole lot of things that, you know, whereas maybe we'll pull back on the accelerator for the Middle East and military conflict, but we're just going to escalate the attack on the middle class and further erode
Speaker 5Well, it depends on the future administrations. I myself think that there's an opportunity here for a third party movement because everyone is disillusioned with both the Democrats and the Republicans. Remember, the Democrats bought us open borders and mass immigration, part of the clergy plan to flood countries with immigrants to overwhelm them, to destroy
Speaker 5Their culture and their values. It's well known by economists you cannot combine a welfare state with open immigration. It's unsustainable. And yet that's what the Democrats have favored. And then you have the disillusionment with the Republicans turning into the war party when Trump promised he was going to be the anti-war party.
Speaker 5So I think there's an opportunity for a third party to emerge if it can happen. Tucker has talked about it. with Thomas Massey, with Marjorie Taylor Greene, with Joe Kent. I would like to see a Massey Marjorie ticket. I think it could be a winning ticket. And just think if you had someone like Colonel McGregor as Secretary of Defense.
2:01:52Third Party Massie Marjorie Ticket
Speaker 5I mean, there's so many good things that could come from a Massey Marjorie ticket that I'm hoping, I'm hoping that it will actually come to pass. Tucker's got a lot of resources. He likes the idea of they've actually talked about it. I'm hoping that's going to happen, in which case it might be we're able to save ourselves because otherwise we're headed for destruction in so many negative ways.
Speaker 5And it's just a bloody shame. And I never began to imagine in my 85 years I'd ever reach a point of seeing the United States in such a terrible State of Affairs.
Ian MalcolmJim, I couldn't agree with you more. And isn't it wild because the very issues that we've been going into, I mean, I think I would actually go back to the Federal Reserve, which you touched upon, which kind of begot World War One and in some ways World War Two. Right. Which crushed nationalism and all these other aspects.
Ian MalcolmAnd then to your comment, the clergy plan that basically followed World War Two. Then we got on to the United States, both the cultural kind of deterioration. And then you look at JFK, which brings about LBJ, the expansion of the welfare system. You go forward to 9-11, which brings about all of the war and the conflict in the Middle East.
Ian MalcolmAnd it really does feel like things have gotten so off the rails. And I'm kind of curious, Jim, for your thoughts, because the overarching thesis here. which again it just keeps going back to and I sound like a broken record and I have for years going back to this hey guys it's it's Israel and Jewish supremacy I really do feel like getting that message right not not one that's built on hate or animus or racial prejudice or anything but rather just wakening the American people to the reality that their government and I would go as far as to say the media finance and all these other aspects
Ian MalcolmThey are fundamentally undermining our society. And I think when people realize that, it's going to be no different than Henry Ford, who said, if people understood central banking, they'd be out in the streets tomorrow. And what do you know? That's the same source, right? Yeah.
Speaker 5Catherine Austin Fitz is really good on all this stuff. And of course, G. Edward Griffin and the creature from Jekyll Island and the Fed has been a major problem. We got to get rid of Fed at some point. Jack had it in mind by having the United States publish by the Treasury our currency for no interest. Understand, the vast majority of the national debt is interest on interest paid to the Fed.
Speaker 5It's outrageous. We're publishing the currency of the United States where we don't need a consortium of private banks. It can be done by the Department of Treasury for nothing at all. So we're in a hell of a fix, Ian. And they're so rich and so powerful, it's going to be a titanic struggle to try to get rid of Fed. But you're absolutely right.
Speaker 5That is what needs to happen.
Ian MalcolmAnd I say it just because a lot of people, to your comment, a lot of people I feel like are becoming very demoralized because those that did support MAGA... are just seeing Trump so flagrantly go back on all of his promises. And then you couple that with essentially the youth who at every turn, I mean, everything is designed to be demoralizing slop for the youth of today to get them hyper fixated on materialism, vanity, and to basically use the inevitable lack of those things, right?
Ian MalcolmBecause Not everybody's going to be a multimillionaire and not everybody's going to be, let's say, the suavest or sexiest or most beautiful of either young men or young women. And when those are the only things that people value, well, then you're going to have a ton of people that just feel like they don't have much to live for.
Ian MalcolmAnd so you couple all of these things together. Jim, I always talk about this idea that it used to be keeping up with the Joneses and everybody pretty much was Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmIt's happening. It's happening. It's happening.
2:07:11Turning Against Israel Support
Speaker 5People don't want, like 88% of the public don't want us to be supporting Israel. We shouldn't be saying them arms. We shouldn't be saying them money. We shouldn't be supporting the genocide. Overwhelming public sentiment. So I think if you have a anti-war party that also is to detach any association or relationship with our gallant ally in the Middle East, I think that's a winning combination.
Speaker 5and I just encourage everyone who's despondent support the idea of a Massey Marjorie ticket because I think that's our way out of this morass.
Speaker 4ASAPAC is trying to draft, maybe Michael could say something on that. ASAPAC's trying to draft.
@rectheregimeYes, we're trying to draft Thomas Massidy and run for president and we've been talking back and forth. I've actually had conversations with him. I'm putting out records, like music, to try to rally people behind the cause of drafting him for president. And he's listening to them because he commented on one of them. He said, thanks for not dropping the F-bomb for once.
Speaker 5No, no, no. This is where we should go. This will be our salvation if we can bring it to pass. because Massey and Marjorie are principal. And they really care about America. All Trump cares about is Israel and his family and enriching himself. The degree of corruption of the Trump family staggers the mind. It is unbelievable.
Speaker 5And that's not even turning to all the Epstein child abuse and all that sort of stuff where he's so profoundly involved. He can't allow it to come out. He cannot allow it to come out. It is so devastating.
Ian MalcolmAnd it really is. You know, the wild piece is with Dr. Rectenwald, what he's doing with ASAPAC, with this kind of the social effort and the shift in the zeitgeist and the awareness to some of these things. I really do think, Jim, that now is the perfect time for the entirety of America to To basically come together across all of these lines upon which we've been firewalled and divided, whether it's racial, it's religious, it's nationality, it's all these other pieces, right?
Ian MalcolmThe political division that we have. And I really do, Jim, I'm curious for your thoughts because I'm convinced that one of two things is going to have to happen, which is either that they are going to attempt to further foment the color revolution. All of the infighting, which obviously we're seeing take place in Europe with France and all of this anti-Muslim sentiments that they're trying to rile up, or that there's going to be some kind of black swan, either economic or energy, let's say, impacting, if not some kind of false flag akin to perhaps 9-11.
Ian MalcolmBut the challenge with a lot of those is that now people are so aware of what's going on. That if the government comes out tomorrow and says, oh, guys, what do you know? Everybody's banks just shut off. So I guess we're just going to have to go to a CBDC. Everybody's going to know that they're doing it by design. So they're in this really weird bind.
Ian MalcolmI'm curious where you think it goes.
Speaker 5Right on all these counts, we're on the verge of economic collapse. There's no doubt about it. The oil shortage caused by the Iran war is having devastating worldwide consequences. Thank you so much for joining us.
Speaker 5and the political leadership will not be coming from either the Republican or the Democrat party. So I think if Michael is involved in trying to recruit Mandy, that's the way to go. We wanna support that objective, get him and Marjorie to run and revive, care about this country and a little enthusiasm for solving these problems, because I think they are the key to it, Ian.
Ian MalcolmI couldn't agree with you. Oh, go for it.
Speaker 4No, just real quick, the site, if you're interested in what we do, for people in here maybe on a different angle that didn't know, but Michael's the founder of AZA Pack on the Treasure. It's aza-pac.com. If you want to go there, we list the candidates we have endorsed, we're endorsing, and just different ways you can get involved or volunteer or contribute if you're based in the U.S.
Speaker 4By the way, speaking of this country going to hell in a handbasket, the FEC was attacked the other day. It went down, so if you had filing reports to do, you couldn't do them. They're back up. I get the emails from them because of the nature of the Treasury and the ASAPAC. They're back up. They're not going to fine people if they had a report that was due.
Speaker 4But anyway, it just, I wonder, there's a lot of cyber attacks and then quest diagnostics with all the data. I'm just saying there's a lot going on. And you have major players talking about keeping... Your household well-stocked. There could be an emergency. Gee, I wonder what that could be. And I think this is all to get to Agenda 2030, the central bank digital currency.
Speaker 4That is the end of all freedom with that. But anyway, I got off the track. But azapac.com, A-Z-A hyphen P-A-C dot com. Just throw that out there. Thank you.
Speaker 5Good, Laurie. Very good, Laurie. Ian, I can't thank you enough for featuring me tonight. And just know I would be glad on some occasion to return if that were your...
Ian MalcolmThere's no if that's there. We're going to have to make sure that that happens. And I know that there's a lot of hands up. I want to make sure that we leave a little bit of time, Jim, if you do have a couple more minutes.
Speaker 5Go ahead. You got questions. Go ahead.
@joann_marieThere is a couple of your fans in here that they are very excited to talk to you again, Ian. Charlie, go for it. Jim, oh my God, Jim.
Speaker 9Jim, I was listening to you and Joaquin and Russ. This is Charlie Carter from Bitchute, old friend. I switched over to Twitter and wow, how incredible just hearing you speak and then knowing all these people that don't know how passionate you are and Thank you, Casey, for exposing him to this. Jim, we need to get you onto Twitter, and I think that there's no attacks on Twitter.
Speaker 9For you to spread your message here, yeah, this was incredible. Thank you, Ian. Thank you, JoAnn. It's the first time I've talked to you, Jim, since I called your house two years ago.
Speaker 5Yeah, it's a pleasure to hear from you, Charlie. I do have a Twitter account, at Jim Vetser, which was just wiped two days ago. They took off. I don't know. I must add a thousand tweets up there and they wiped. It was wiped. And it's got to do with my legal issues with Sandy Hook. I'm convinced. So I'm rebuilding and putting some of my most important stuff up there.
Speaker 5But there's not much there now. But what is up there is important. So I appreciate all that, Charlie. Excellent. Good to hear from you.
@joann_marieI posted in the Jumbotron one of your videos. Guys, please show some support to Jim and follow him and watch his stuff. You're absolutely brilliant, Jim. I'm so, so happy that you came. Casey, thank you so much for bringing him.
Ian MalcolmJim, is this handle that you're on right now, the Jim Fetzer one, is that the one that you're going to be primarily using going forward?
Speaker 5Well, that is my Twitter account. Most of my stuff, I'm doing 20 hours a week on the internet with all these shows. Monday, Wednesday, Friday. I do Revolution Radio Show from 11 a.m. Central to 1 and then Republic Broadcasting, RBN from 2 to 4 Monday, Wednesday, Friday. Those are two-hour shows. So that's 12 hours. I do a whole bunch of other shows that add up to about 20 hours a week.
Speaker 5And most of those are posted on my BitChute channel, Jim Fetzer. So if you go up there, you're going to... You're going to find quite a bonanza. I mean, there's a huge amount of stuff there.
Ian MalcolmLove it. And to Charlie's comments and Dr. Rectenwald's, Twitter, the audience here is craving for the information, Jim, that you've been sharing in here. The youth in particular are really just trying to figure out what the heck is going on. And unfortunately, after the acquisition... of TikTok by Larry Ellison and his little band of misfits with their tiny hats.
Ian MalcolmThe free speech over there is not quite so free. And so it seems like this is our best option right now, even with all the reasons that I could critique Elon Musk, which are a plenty, but nonetheless, it's better than most. And so very, very excited and enthused to have you kind of active on this platform as well.
Speaker 5Michael Rectenwald Ph.D., Bricius Lipscombus, CLG News, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
@joann_marieRumble, Spotify, Apple Podcasts and IanMalcolm84 and now also on Instagram and TikTok. So thank you so much. Thank you. All right. Laurie, go for it and we'll go to the other hands.
Speaker 4Oh, do you mean me? Yes. Oh, OK. Sorry. Oh, no, I'm sorry. I'll do something really quickly. You know. The movie which I just liked as a movie, I think it's a masterpiece, the JFK movie. One of the co-scriptwriters of this, Jim, Zachary Sklar, he actually got the CLG newsletter and we actually chatted a bit and all that.
Speaker 4But then as my politics changed, he became very sort of angry with me as I questioned things and all that, and that was that. But I just have a quick question for you going back to Sandy Hook. I saw recently a post on X that somebody put up. They collated all the Connecticut State Lottery winners and they found connections to some of the people involved with Sandy Hook.
2:18:17Laurie Asks About Sandy Hook
Speaker 4And I don't know. I can't vouch for this post or anything. I read it and it looked legitimate and all this. But I wonder if you heard anything about that. It's kind of a recent development. You're probably on top of it. I'm just curious about it. You heard anything about that?
Speaker 5Yeah, I haven't spent a lot of time on that, but I think it is curious and very suspicious as forms of payoff, you know, through lotteries. I think a lot of these lotteries turn out to be rigged. I'm sorry to say, but there's so much money involved in this Sandy Hook thing. It boggles the mind, Laurie. And I appreciate all the good work you're doing with CLG.
Speaker 5You're really doing a great job.
Speaker 4Thanks for all your research on just myriad topics. It's just amazing stuff, especially the courage that you went through with the courts and everything. It's just, it's a lot. Thank you very much for all that.
Speaker 6My pleasure. It ain't over, but yeah, I appreciate it all. Go ahead. Who's next?
@joann_marieI think we have a survivor of the USS Liberty here, but Grand Crew, welcome.
Speaker 10He wrote that. Oh, thank you. I'm not a survivor. I was in the Navy, but I want to thank the gentleman for his service and for the hardships he endured and for what he stands for and the information he's giving. And that's pretty much what I want to say. Thank you, sir.
Speaker 5That's very nice. Yeah, I was a captain in the Marine Corps and resigned my commission to enter graduate school and study the history and philosophy of science and then launch a career for 35 years as a professor of philosophy. Thanks for the But who's next?
Ian MalcolmThank you for coming in.
Speaker 5Let's go to Don.
@donaldsmannYeah, thanks, Jim. I wanted to ask you a question about Eisenhower. I'm always curious because he seemed to be in conversations at Bay of Pigs, their phone calls with JFK, and then he seems to have gone silent after his death. I'm just curious about what the military's... What the military, because you would think the military intelligence would at least have some type of understanding what was going on and who was behind it.
2:20:20Don Questions Eisenhower and JFK
@donaldsmannAnd would there have been conflicts within the military as to?
Speaker 5Well, let's put it this way. A subordinate of Edward Lansdale was Fletcher Prouty, and they knew Fletcher wouldn't put up with this, so they sent him off to the South Pole. So he was in Christchurch, New Zealand. When they had a newspaper with a quality photograph of Lee Oswald and a biography, pretty much at the very time the assassination was taking place.
Speaker 5I mean, the military was completely in on it. The Joint Chiefs were wholeheartedly for taking out Jack, sad to say.
@donaldsmannAnd is that a function that the military was going to use? We had the Operation Paperclip going on. Was there... A silencing that was happening, meaning there was sort of a rogue military industrial complex that Eisenhower couldn't control either?
Speaker 5Well, Paperclip, for those unaware, was bringing in a lot of the Nazi officers and scientists in the United States to supplement our intel. And there are those who believe they had a significant influence on attitudes Within the Eisenhower administration, in opposition to the kind of moves that JFK was making, I believe a new book by David Mantic, something about the nature of evil is going to be addressing a lot of these questions.
Speaker 5So I would encourage you to look forward for the latest book forthcoming from David Mantic. It'll be out before the end of the year.
@donaldsmannSorry, last question, since you're a philosophy major. Do you see a problem is that the United States was sort of built on a philosophical framework and there's a lack of retracing back to those philosophical underpinnings?
Speaker 5Well, the fact is they no longer even offer civics courses in high schools that I understand. I mean, we need to understand the nature of our government. You go out and do a survey of the average guy on the street, they can't identify the three branches of government. They have no idea how any of this works. We're in a dire strait educationally.
Speaker 5We had the dumbing down of America. Any number, Charlotte Isserby was very big on this. I'm sorry to say it's taken effect. If you went back to a high school or even an eighth grade book from the 1850s,
Speaker 5Our average high school student couldn't deal with it. There's more information than they possess when they graduate. So it's been very, very bad. Television's had an effect. Cell phones, enormous effect. There are all kinds of reasons why education has been on the skids and we need to find some way to revive it, frankly.
@donaldsmannAnd sorry, one final up to that is you see this push by the big tech on singularity, the merging of mind with machines. This is coming very quickly. And my other question to you is there's this philosophical framework that has to be retraced back to the founding of this country. But at the same time, this technological movement is happening almost too quickly, of which it will look for a technological solution.
@donaldsmannover a retracement back to the philosophical framework.
Speaker 5Well, let me just offer a couple of observations. One is that the high tech, AI and all that, and the rate at which it can process information creates the opportunity for a technological surveillance society of Michael Rectenwald Ph.D., Bricius Lipscombus, CLG News, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
Speaker 5They're not deriving the intellectual benefit from doing their own work. It's creating a huge hassle for faculty to figure out, you know, it used to be, is it real or is it Memorex? Is this now, is it real or is it AI? And I'm sorry to say a lot of it's AI and that the subtle consequence is the greater dependence on machines leads to lesser dependence on our own mental
Speaker 5Thank you very much. Thank you.
Ian MalcolmSuch wonderful questions there, Don. And Jim, I'm actually really excited. I had sent a note to the one and only Sam Parker. I'm not sure if you're familiar with his work, but an absolute history buff. He's done unbelievable deep dives into JFK. He's where I learned a lot of the information on RFK and some of these other pieces of the puzzle.
Ian MalcolmSo I'm not sure if you're familiar with him. But Sam, if you haven't connected with Jim and vice versa, I was just mentioning to JoAnn in the background. I was like, it'd be so neat if these two could get aligned. The wealth of knowledge between the two of you, I think, would just be wild.
Speaker 5Much appreciated. Nice to meet you.
@basedsamparkerI'll connect with them on your say-so. Nice to meet you, Jim.
Speaker 5Oh, hey, Sam. Good. Yeah, I'm delighted. Let's figure out something. Maybe you come on my show. We can work something out.
@basedsamparkerSounds great. I'll DM you. We'll talk in the background.
Ian MalcolmSam, Jim was going into the JFK assassination, and I'm curious for your thoughts because he essentially walked through the suggestion that not only were there eight different interested parties, which would of course include the usual suspects and folks on behalf of the Federal Reserve, on behalf of LBJ, and a number of other angles, but it's his suggestion that not only were there multiple interests, but there were multiple shooters.
Ian MalcolmAll of those shooters essentially participated and that the Zabruder film was spliced and diced to essentially eliminate that, which is why there's so many awkward little elements to it. And I know you've spent a lot of time looking at this up and down. I'd be curious for your thoughts on either that suggestion or if you had any thoughts or questions about it.
@basedsamparkerYeah, I think most people who dealt even... A little bit into the JFK assassination research, we'll discover that there were multiple shooters.
@basedsamparkerCorey Hughes is another person who's done a lot of great research on this. I don't know if Jim, if you know Corey Hughes. But if you look at witness statements, the number of shots that witnesses here heard being fired range from, I think, Two to eight. I mean, maybe even more. But there are dozens and maybe hundreds of witnesses who say that there were three, four, five, six, seven, eight shots.
Speaker 5Yeah, the deal was that all the weapons were silenced except the Mamluk or Carcano and the Dow tags. So I created the acoustical impression of only three shots having been fired. In fact, it was 10 to 12.
@basedsamparkerI can believe that, and I believe that I'll be interested to see that research, but I'm glad you brought up the Daltex building, because I've spoken at length myself about the Daltex building. Again, on-the-ground witnesses placed shots coming from the Daltex building, multiple shots, in fact, coming from the Daltex building.
@basedsamparkerThat's the building, and I'm sorry I'm coming in late, so apologies if I'm stepping on any toes or repeating any information here. I'm coming in blind, you know, but... Obviously, that's where Abraham Zepruder's office was in the Daltex building. The Daltex building was under Jewish ownership. And in fact, very recently, just this year, it was discovered that the ownership of the Daltex building was transferred from one Jew to another Jew on November 1st, just three weeks before the assassination.
2:29:27Daltex Building ADL Connections
@basedsamparkerThe ownership of that building was transferred. And that's very curious. It's another establishes more Jewish connections to this assassination out of out of the many connections to to the assassination. That has now been verified. The Daltex building absolutely was owned by Jews. And then it was transferred to another Jew just three weeks before the assassination.
2:30:13Daltex Building Ownership Transferred
@basedsamparkerI find that very, very suspicious. Very curious. And not only that, but that ownership, one of the Jews that was involved in that ownership transaction was a member of the ADL. And anybody who has done the deep research into the JFK assassination knows there are very strong and several ties between the assassination and the ADL.
@basedsamparkerThere's strong involvement in the ADL in the JFK assassination. That is one more connection, one more ADL connection to The assassination. The owner of the Daltex building worked for the ADL. And it's also rumored, but never been proven, that Abraham Zapruder was a member of the ADL, of the B'nai B'rith. So that's another one.
@basedsamparkerJim, I don't know if you were aware of that latest development on the Daltex building. I'm not trying to put you on the spot. It had been rumored for many years, but it's now verified.
Speaker 5The shooter in the Daltex was... Nestor, Tony Escadro, and Anicastro Cuban, for whom they put up a statue of Little Havana. It's a very interesting series here. We'll get together and have more talks, Sam.
@basedsamparkerAbsolutely. I'll kick that back to you, Ian.
Ian MalcolmNo, and I'm going to be very excited for any collaboration between the two of you gentlemen, because again, Jim, the work Sam's done around not just JFK, but RFK, those shootings. He actually, we did, Jim, we did a space, Sam and I, on assassinations linked back to, let's just call it the Tiny Hat Brigade. And I think off the top of his head, between MLK, we went through Michael Jackson,
Ian MalcolmIt was just celebrity after celebrity after politician after politician that just seemed to have alignment with this particular set of interests, let's just call it. But Sam's deep dive into those historical pieces has just been phenomenal. I'm very excited to see whatever the two of you guys collaborate on.
@basedsamparkerI'll just throw out one more tidbit for everybody who wasn't in that mega space we did that you just referenced, Ian. But Jim, I'm sure you're aware of Jim Garrison's investigation, right? Famous, infamous investigation into JFK, New Orleans District Attorney. Sure. What I discovered this year, and it's like I didn't discover it, but like I learned it, was that it was a group of three Jews who backed Jim Garrison's investigation.
@basedsamparkerAnd this comes from Larry King, the famous broadcaster, Larry King. Back in, literally way back in the day, Larry King teamed up with a lawyer from Florida and another Jew, there were three of them, and they actually fronted cash to Jim Garrison to help keep his investigation going. Which is interesting, you know, if you know anything about the movie JFK, Oliver Stone's JFK, that was produced by the Israeli spy Arnon Milchan, who helped...
@basedsamparkerwho helped build Israel's illicit nuclear program and trafficked in nuclear material and nuclear secrets for that. They put out the movie JFK. And of course, that movie was one big piece of propaganda to deflect away from the Israeli Jewish angle involved in the JFK assassination. And it was three Jews who were intimately involved with Jim Garrison.
@basedsamparkerThank you so much for joining us.
@basedsamparkerhelping to guide that situation. It was just a little too close for coincidence for me.
Speaker 5We'll find an opportunity to talk about all these things in the near future, Sam. I'm glad you're here. Go ahead, Ian. You got one more?
Ian MalcolmYeah, let's go to, I think Zob has his hand up, and then we'll bring it back to Dr. Rectenwald and you, Jim, for any final remarks.
Speaker 11Thank you so much, Ian. Thank you so much, Jim. I really have appreciated your work for a long time. I'm going to make it quick because I know everybody's probably getting ready for bed. I just had two quick questions for you, sir. You mentioned Frank Sturgis. as part of the shooter team. I had heard, I'm just wondering what you think, if Hillary was possibly his spotter and also pertaining to the multifaceted aspect of the assassination, would that actually have to have been approved at the top by the Vatican?
Speaker 11Those are my only questions. Thank you very much again and everybody have a great night.
Speaker 5I have not found a Vatican connection to the assassination. Jack, of course, was a Catholic. Sturgis may have been the best shot in the world at the time. I know the New York City Gold Shield detective, Jim Rothstein, who actually apprehended Sturgis when he went to New York City to kill Marita Lawrence so she couldn't testify to the House Select Committee on Assassination.
Speaker 5And he stuck his gun in his mouth and his partner up to his heart. And while they were interrogating him, he gave him the Throwaway Line Good Shooting. And he admitted he'd shot JFK because he betrayed the brigade at the Bay of Pigs. And he felt he was a traitor to the country. For each one of the shooters, there's a story to tell.
Speaker 5And I'm very confident about the identifications I'm advancing. And really, it was... beginning at the ground up you know looking at the shooters that led me to the realization that each of the sponsors had put up their own shooter to kind of tie them into a blood oath so that if anyone exposed they'd expose the others to keep them silent it was an absolutely brilliant plan where Lyndon was the key figure any any other questions that's it thank you very much that was it
Ian MalcolmYeah, I think, so Hubbard is just coming up right now. I think he might have one final question for you, Jim. And I just want to thank you sincerely for everything throughout this, Jim. It's been really enlightening, as well as to thank everybody that's been up here on the panel. But let's go to Mr. Hubbard.
Speaker 12Oh, sorry, just joined. Yeah, definitely an interesting discussion by the sounds of it. I don't really have a question, but thank you.
Ian MalcolmWell, that kept that short and simple. Mandy, JoAnn, any final thoughts here for Jim?
@joann_marieIt was absolutely wonderful to meet you, Jim. I'm so happy. I didn't know you before, and I apologize, but you're absolutely amazing. You remind me so much of truth. Your recollection of names and dates and last names of absolutely everything is just absolutely mind-blowing to me. I will definitely check out your work.
@joann_marieThank you so much for joining us. I hope that you come back. I absolutely, absolutely love this space. Thank you. I cannot wait for your collaboration with Sam as well. It's going to be awesome. You guys are going to get along so well.
Speaker 5Thanks for those kind words. I've enjoyed being here. Mandy, did you have a final thought?
@mandyarthurYeah, I haven't talked too much, but I do want to thank you so much for all of your hard work and just giving us this time with you. Obviously, over the years, we learn about basically the surface level things. Like we all know that these issues and these circumstances are shady. We know, I don't know exactly what happened in this situation, but it definitely wasn't right.
@mandyarthurThere's something wrong about it. And so you've given me so much to look through and so much to... I'm going to have to go back and re-listen to this because there's just so much information. You know so much. It is truly incredible. And yeah, I'm in awe of your knowledge. And I truly appreciate this time that you've spent with us.
@mandyarthurSo thank you so much. And I'm just absorbing it.
Speaker 5Very nice. Thank you so much. And again, thank you for this opportunity. And Casey for thinking it might be a good idea. I appreciate it all.
Ian MalcolmNo, and Jim, that's the thing. Really are so very fortunate to keep kind of building this. It's not only intellectual. I feel like there's a spiritual element to what's happening here where people, they are running to the truth that you've been speaking about for such a long time. They're starting to kind of connect these dots.
Ian MalcolmAnd it's almost getting to the point where the mainstream media, which for so long was able to steamroll all dissident voices. Now that we have tools like this, we can bring people together and start amplifying individuals like yourself and Sam Parker, Dr. Rectenwald, Lori, so many others that are trying to really understand kind of the confusion because for so long up was down and down was up.
Ian MalcolmAnd so, Jim, I really do feel like we're on the precipice of a better tomorrow for not just those that kind of. I just want to thank you so much, Jim.
Speaker 5Yeah, I'm a migrant. Pleasure. There's another hand up down there if you want to call on.
Ian MalcolmYeah, let's go to Asian Power.
2:40:46Financial System and Bitcoin Question
Speaker 13Hey, Jim. Thanks a lot. Seeing as you've seen how and connected the dots, how the Jewish supremacy is kind of controlling a whole bunch of stuff in our politics, in our world. The financial system seems to be the main mechanism that they use to leverage power. All right.
Speaker 5My offhand remark is I'm skeptical that it could provide a solution, and I do not feel highly qualified in this area. So it's a very interesting question. I do believe we need to get rid of the Fed. I mean, Ron Paul has been making that point forever. He got it right then. And I am hopeful with a new administration driven by an anti-war
Speaker 5I couldn't agree with you more on that one Jim and it is it if we can essentially and
Ian MalcolmIt is kind of wild because that idea of Bitcoin, it does feel like a way to disconnect their powerhouse financially, which is, of course, the Federal Reserve. I'm with you, Jim, that I'm kind of skeptical around the possibility that Bitcoin came about organically just because even the story about the founder, that he just made this incredibly powerful idea.
Ian MalcolmThat became what Bitcoin is, but just never took credit, just walked off into the dust and the darkness. And we just have no idea who it was, right? That whole thing just sounds very, very difficult to swallow. But I know the base barber came up. I'm not sure if he has a final question for you.
Ian MalcolmBased?
@joann_marieOh, no, he's awesome.
Speaker 5Ian, it's been just terrific. I really appreciate it. I look forward to coming back and joining you guys again.
Ian MalcolmI love it. And Jim, thank you so much. Casey, I want to thank you so sincerely for bringing Jim to our attention, to helping to set this up with him. Jim, we are always here running these conversations almost every Monday through Thursday around this window. So any and every one of those would love to have you come back.
Ian MalcolmAnd we would also love to find a time A month, two months, whatever might work down the road to kind of pick this back up and maybe to deep dive into Charlie Kirk. I'd be very curious for your thoughts on that.
Speaker 5You got it. You got it. We'll do it, Ian.
Ian MalcolmWell, ladies and gentlemen, that concludes the conversation. The legendary, somebody put down into the purple pill. That Jim Fetzer is the goat, is and has always been. This was wild. I want to thank everybody that was part of this discourse, this conversation. Certainly to Mandy and JoAnn for being up here in the co-host role and helping navigate.
Ian MalcolmI truly think that like Jim was saying, if we can get sincere opposition through a third party, perhaps with Thomas Massey, and who knows?
Ian MalcolmWho could be the wild card? Marjorie Taylor Greene was thrown around. I still, in the back of my head, I'm thinking Thomas Massey and Tucker Carlson. I know that sounds crazy, but I feel like the two of them could perhaps not only be enough of kind of D.C. I don't even want to call them outsiders, but let's say sincere mavericks, unlike John McCain.
Ian MalcolmBut obviously, Tucker Carlson has a massive following that might be able to essentially merge not only the youth that are looking and interested for a third party, But also the boomers that have been listening to him for 20 or 30 years. Maybe that's just me. Maybe that's completely crazy. But it does seem like a viable option to at least build a lot of energy, which is something that some of those prior candidates that tried to be.
Ian MalcolmWe're essentially not able to really manifest. So Ross Perot maybe being a great example despite all the funding that he had behind him. Sam, I'm curious, before we wrap the space here, for your thoughts on that idea of where we are going, how this is advancing. You've obviously been in the trenches on this subject for a long, long, long time.
Ian MalcolmHow do you feel like we're progressing? And with things like AIPAC and maybe Thomas Massey, do you think that not only now is the The first option is violence or violent revolution. Okay, that's the first option.
@basedsamparkerWe use our guns, we organize, we violently overthrow things. Okay, I'm not advocating for that. I'm not saying it would work. I'm saying that's option number one. So let's set that aside short of violent revolution. We have two options to try to regain our sovereignty. Okay, to try to regain our sovereignty. That is either start a third party to challenge the current ruling classes or
@basedsamparkerInfiltrate and take over one of the pre-established parties. Those are your only two options. Sort of like some sort of violent revolution, you can either start a third party or take over one of the existing parties. That's it. Those are your two options. Now, Tucker Carlson has floated the idea of starting a third party, as you suggested.
@basedsamparkerNick Fuentes, America First, has suggested burning down The Sage, MisterQuigley33,
@basedsamparkerThese Zionist sellout Republicans and basically just destroy them. So we're seeing this play out in Ohio where Vivek Ramaswamy is the swamp creature that has been put up by the GOP against the Democrat Amy Acton. Okay. And so the move has been to torpedo Vivek, send a message to the Republican Party. That we're not going to tolerate being replaced by these anchor babies, by these foreigners.
@basedsamparkerAnd that if they want our votes, they're going to have to start looking after our needs and making concessions to us. So those are the two strategies playing out. We're seeing the vote against the Republican play out right now in Ohio. We're seeing it play out to a lesser degree in other states, but especially in the Vivek Ramaswamy, Amy Acton,
@basedsamparkerSo in the extremely short term, our option is to try to leverage what voting power we have to win concessions from the current ruling class and continue basically a takeover of the Republican Party. That's in the immediate short term. In the long term, I think it has yet... We have yet to see how it's going to completely play out.
@basedsamparkerWe're not going to take our country and our sovereignty back overnight. And maybe we won't take it back peacefully at all. I don't know. But I believe that we can. I believe that we can if more Americans knew what those of us in this space know. Then we could easily and quickly, maybe not easily, maybe not quickly, but it would be...
@basedsamparkerThank you for joining us.
2:50:23Burning Down the Republican Party
Ian MalcolmThe only alternative is either enslavement or violent revolution. And we obviously, we don't want either of the latter two of those. We want to figure out how do we politically move the window far enough that we can make a difference without any of that violence.
@basedsamparkerI mean, the point is, the radical left has to be destroyed. We just simply have to restrain it, put it down. And honestly, the Zionist right, the neocon Zionist right, Republican Party, Thank you so much for joining us.
Ian MalcolmYou know, obviously, Casey Putsch was a third candidate. But to your point, that idea of being kind of the outsider, it's a very difficult road to go down. And the only way that would ever be possible is with a massive, massive amount of public support and sentiment.
@basedsamparkerAnd if Vivek loses here and Amy Acton wins and then she, you know, governs as a far left Democrat in a heavy Republican red state. In four years, that could open the door for Casey again, and he would have a much more direct path to the nomination than he did this last time.
Ian MalcolmYeah, no, it does make sense. The question, Sam, that I'd have on that, and look, I'm suggesting this from a standpoint of pragmatism. What you just said, it certainly makes a lot of sense. If we have... Say four, six, eight years to kind of go through that transformation. I'm kind of curious for your thoughts on what...
Ian MalcolmSorry about that, Billionaire.
@joann_marieI removed him. Ian?
Ian MalcolmOh, wow. I'm just kind of curious for your thoughts on the two, four, six year timeline. Does that strategy give us enough time to avoid Thank you so much for joining us.
@basedsamparkerMost all or all of our, you know, government infrastructure is still going to be here. We're all going to still be here. They're still going to be voting. They're still going to be positions. So, you know, yes, things are going to get worse, just as they've been getting worse, you know, year over year for many years. They're going to continue getting worse year over year.
@basedsamparkerThat's undeniable. There's not really any... We're talking about... What's the solution to somehow stop it from getting worse year over year over year? And I said there's three options. Violent revolution, start a third party that can overcome the entrenched uniparty, or take over one of these twin halves of the uniparty, get control of it, and then use that control and power to restrain the other party.
@basedsamparkerThose are your only three options. So it's not really... It's really immaterial. Do we have enough time? We have whatever time there is. It just is. Those are your three options. We can continue going with the insane pathway of just voting for Republicans, which is what probably most of the people in this space have been urged to.
@basedsamparkerJust vote for Republicans. They're not as bad as Democrats. Well, that's been the strategy for 50, 60 years. Look where it's gotten us. You can continue down that path or you can try something new. Now, we have tried third parties in the past. They have not been successful. And they cost an enormous amount of money and resources.
@basedsamparkerEven Elon Musk floated that idea. And he's like richest guy on planet Earth, allegedly. Even he has abandoned that approach. I'm not saying it can't be done. I'm not saying it shouldn't be done. I'm just saying that is a massive uphill battle as well. We can fearmonger about not having enough time, but we have the time that we have and we have the options that we have.
@basedsamparkerAnd some people might find it distasteful to like, well, I just can't bring myself to vote for a Democrat. You're not voting for a Democrat. You're voting to help burn down the Republican Party so that it can be taken over. Because that's what you're doing. Because the damage, think of it this way. There's going to be a certain amount of damage.
@basedsamparkerInflicted on this country over the next eight to ten years. If Democrats get in power and stay in power, they're going to inflict an enormous amount of damage over the next eight to ten years. What we're talking about is, and that's going to happen either way, that's just going to happen. We're talking about taking one step backwards to be able to maybe take two steps forward.
@basedsamparkerWe're talking about voting for Democrats now to put them in power so that they can investigate Republicans. Thank you so much for joining us.
@basedsamparkerZob, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
@basedsamparkerAnd then over the long term, we will start bending things back in the right direction rather than allowing them to continue in the wrong direction.
Ian MalcolmThat is hard to disagree with, Sam. Very, very well stated and very pragmatic, which is always the thing that I try to shoot for because I do think we need to be thoughtful more so than emotional. We need to be stoic with how we look at these problems. And I think that was a very, very... Well articulated presentation of that concept.
Ian MalcolmAnd I know it's obviously one that's very much aligned with Nick Fuentes, who you mentioned. He's been advocating for that as Ohio essentially being a microcosm for the larger national level of conversation. So very, very interesting take. Why don't we go to Dr. Strange and then we'll check in with Converse, who was actually mentioned earlier in this conversation, because I know Casey had brought up the project that they did with the
Ian MalcolmThe JP Con. But Dr. Strange, any thoughts on either Jim Fetzer or any of the things that Sam just shared?
@submission2tHey, Ian. Thanks for giving me the mic. I must admit, I missed most of what Jim had said, but I did hear what Sam was saying. And it's a very thoughtful, thorough thinking of how to achieve the objective. I would I would say that obviously I don't think it's going to be easy if that's the plan. I would say the parties have such a stronghold over both parties that it is extremely difficult to actually break in.
@submission2tAnd then the other challenge is that I think with money in elections and politics, We've reached the level of neuroscience compiled, converged with AI and social media that you can manufacture consent very easily. So if you put enough money at an election, not always, but usually, like 90% of the time, you can put a complete jackass in office.
2:59:02Dr. Strange on Money in Politics
@submission2tYou can elect the worst person you could possibly imagine in office. I'm of the opinion that unless you level the playing field, which is removing money out of politics, and when I say remove money, I'm not saying there's no such thing as removing money. I'm just saying to have a public fund for politicians to tap into as opposed to relying on the big donors, the big money.
@submission2tThat would create... I'm of the opinion that that would create an easier path to achieve the goal because the moment you have a public fund, even if you have the super PACs for the immediate term, it would still give a lot of candidates an opportunity to fight. So that's my thinking. Dr. Strange, how would you achieve that?
@submission2tYeah, that's a very good question. It always comes down to the execution. So if you look at Congress right now, there's an incentive for them to have a public fund because they themselves don't want to be beholden to big money and then go around and basically always beg money from big donors. They spend a lot of their time going around asking for money.
@submission2tFor the members in Congress that are there right now, The idea of having a public fund that they can tap into, especially if they're incumbents, there's an incentive for them to do so.
@basedsamparkerWhich representatives or senators are advocating or introducing bills to that effect?
@submission2tNone, because I don't think anybody that I know of, I put something together.
@basedsamparkerSo it's a good idea, but how are you going to achieve it?
@submission2tLike I said, if you have, if you identify a group of people within Congress who can possibly push this, at least explore it, definitely try it, it may work. And it doesn't have to, it can be done in parallel with everything else, right? It's not, I'm of the opinion that it's definitely worth a shot. Because again, there is quite a bit of incentive for members of Congress, Senate,
@submission2tHouse of Rep, and even the presidential to be able to do this. Now, I'll tell you this, Sam. It has been done locally in certain mayoral cities. There is a public fund where the city matches.
@basedsamparkerArizona has that. What I'm trying to get at is you're talking about legislative action. Legislative action that currently nobody is proposing and nobody is advocating for. And to get legislative action that's favorable to us, we need to have political influence that we do not currently have. So your solution, good one, I like it, it's downstream of what I was talking about.
@basedsamparkerWe must get our influence and power back in the party or start another party that exerts its influence. So your solution is what I'm trying to say is downstream of what needs to happen first. And what needs to happen first is we need to get influence and power back in the party. Otherwise, we can't have legislative solutions if we don't have legislators on our side or if we don't have power over those legislators that currently exist.
@submission2tYou're right on, but I'm still of the opinion that you could still find enough individuals within Congress because it wouldn't hurt them, right? This would not impact them in a negative way. It may benefit them. If you can find a few champions, and then of course if you can have a few individuals like Thomas Massey who were in there to begin with, this can really catalyze... What happened to Thomas Massey?
@submission2tWhat just happened to Thomas Massey? Exactly my point though, Sam, exactly my point.
@basedsamparkerSo your solution, which is interesting, is not possible until we first take over the party.
@submission2tI would love to see it. I hope it happens. But I still think it would be a hard, you know, a uphill battle. And I'm sure you already agree with that anyways. But I think multiple avenues should be explored. And the avenue that you're suggesting has a lot of potential to it in light of how you just explained it.
@basedsamparkerI want to hear if there's another option besides the three that I've outlined. I would love to hear it.
@submission2tI don't think, I mean, the idea of pushing a bill within Congress where you can have a public fund, a matching public fund for small donors, 8x. Let's say you donate, anyone who donates up to like $300, it gets multiplied by 8x. That idea, as it's already been done at a state level in certain cities,
@submission2tIf we push it, I don't foresee that being... I'm not completely turned off that it would not be bought by Congress, that Congress would shun it. I'm of the opinion that they may actually prefer it, obviously not all of them, but the party itself may not, but the members of Congress may very well like it. I don't know. The only other point I wanted to make is regarding Vivek.
@submission2tContrary to how Vivek has been depicted as this Ivy League intelligent guy, I would argue he's fairly stupid. And his stupidity stems from his shitty values and principles, because what he recently did is he self-sabotaged his own campaign, right? So otherwise, before, like a couple weeks ago, before that ad... He was kind of neck and neck.
@submission2tAnd all of a sudden, after that ad, he shot himself in the leg. So there is that aspect of it, too. But let's see. I mean, and he's such a snake oil salesman, right? Anybody that sits there and watches him speak, you cannot come out and say this guy is so disingenuous. He exudes disingenuousness. But maybe that's my bias.
@submission2tI'll land there.
@joann_marieThank you so much, Dr. Strange. Sorry, I was talking to Casey in the background. Guys, Jim is 85 years old. I don't know how does he recall so much stuff at 85 years old. Like, my mind is blown right now. He's awesome. Okay. Can, how are you?
3:06:14Ehsan on AIPAC and Gaza Lawsuit
@ehsanjoarderHey, everybody. How are you guys doing?
@joann_marieGood. How are you? It's been a long time. Where have you been?
@ehsanjoarderI'm dealing with the Jews directly. Very direct and personal, unfortunately.
Speaker 1Is everything okay?
@ehsanjoarderIt will be, I think, God willing, eventually. It's still ongoing. This has been going on for two plus years as we speak. And it's on its last legs. But as you know, when Satan's on his last legs, he's the most fierce. So it's occupying all my time and energy and money and everything else. But God willing, it'll be over soon.
@ehsanjoarderI did get a chance to, this past weekend, reconnect with Jake and Dan in Vegas briefly. Speaking of the political issues, I know Dan ran for office, and from a political perspective or a politician perspective, he's very rough around the edges. But I think America is prime for someone like that, whether it's that type of office or a higher office or even a local office.
@ehsanjoarderI think that Americans are really starting to gravitate to individuals who say it like it is. AIPAC is becoming a black eye on a lot of them. I know that AIPAC is... Zob, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff Zob, Dr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
@ehsanjoarderIt's a white pill. I went to the Arab American Civil Rights League, and they've done a class action lawsuit against the federal government for the Goya side in Gaza and in Lebanon. I think it's based on the fact that our taxpayer dollars are funding the Israeli military to basically massacre innocent civilians, primarily women and children.
@ehsanjoarderIn both of those areas and obviously by extension and proxy everywhere else. And at the event, we had two people from the left that have made their overtures to our cause, speaking out against the tribe, and that is Anna Kasparian and Cenk Uygur. Now, briefly, I mean, there's a huge difference between the two, in my opinion, but there is this potential fusion of the right and the left, which has tremendous potential.
3:08:27Uniting Left and Right
@ehsanjoarderAnd with the JP Project, that's kind of what we were attempting to do, not just the right and the left, but men and women, old and young, white and black, Muslim Christian, essentially a Gentile unity conference to speak on the tribe and deal with the various myriad issues that they've put on all of us and kind of put a target on each other's backs for us so that we, instead of going to them, we end up in the kosher sandwich.
@ehsanjoarderTake it out on one another, you know, and that's very prevalent as we speak, but it's also something that the population is starting to realize. So I spoke really candidly with Anna, very briefly but candidly, and I said, hey, are you interested in meeting Dan? And she didn't know what to say. She was like, Dan who? And I said, Dan Bilzerian.
@ehsanjoarderAnd then she like quietened down a little bit. She looked around to see if anybody was listening. She goes, hey, I'm a big, big fan. I love what those guys are doing. I mentioned Jake Shields to her as well. And she said, you know, the thing is I have to keep my powder dry. And I assumed that meant like, well, something like that, I don't want to make it known.
@ehsanjoarderBecause obviously Dan has said some very aggressive things, which we applaud him for. And in fact, one of the things that happened with the JP conference is that the term JP was very nebulous. And Stu Peters was the only one who did a media piece on it. And he called it the Jewish power press conference. And that's fine.
@ehsanjoarderI don't really want to dispute that, especially given my current situation dealing with the tribe directly. And they're all the way up my ass trying to get something on me and hurt my family. But the important point there is that what Dan was trying to say, so Dan was in a group chat. While I was with Anna and I was mentioning, hey, you know, there might be a potential here for you to meet Anna.
@ehsanjoarderSo I told her, look, how about just privately, not necessarily publicly? And she said, yeah, she would definitely be interested in talking to them both privately. Now, that's something that's two years ago would be unthinkable. And I mean, two years ago, post October 7th would have been unthinkable. But everyone's starting to realize that the two political parties are full of shit.
@ehsanjoarderThey're both bought and controlled by organized jury. And there is... No shortage of puppets and no shortage of tricks that is available to them to continue to do what they're doing and essentially engage in a goyasi this worldwide. I'm sure many of you are aware of the four or so million, three to four million white Christians that have been killed in the battle between the Ukraine and Russia and obviously this was ongoing in the Russian regions.
@ehsanjoarderAnd this is why people like her are accepting the idea that there is no...
@ehsanjoarderDr. Cynthia McKinney, who came to the JP conference, a former fiery congresswoman.
@ehsanjoarderwho's also assisting us in the background and was assisting Dan with his campaign as well and she basically called her an anti-Semite. For being opposed to the state of Israel, and in fact, she said that she had family in the state of Israel, and she was the one who they ran for the presidential nominee in terms of the Green Party.
@ehsanjoarderSo this is why a new political party would be necessary, and I would argue not one, but many, several, give the people many options to pick from and talk about. That doesn't mean that politicians who are running for office shouldn't go under the traditional two-party system, but they should have a platform that they can pull from from multiple...
@ehsanjoarderThank you so much for joining us.
@ehsanjoarderIndividuals who love the country and are willing to run for office and ideally some of them are going to have to be entrepreneurs who have their own funding like a Dan Bilzerian. But I assure you that Gentile Dome is not going to stop and things are on the whole looking up. Ted Cruz was there. He was actually plugging Nick Fuentes, incidentally, you know, just earlier today in a Republican Jewish coalition event in Michigan where they're coming to the rescue of Mike Rogers, who's against the Democrat.
@ehsanjoarderYou know, maybe he's a progressive, this Abdul El-Sayed. But the reason why that's important is that, you know, they're now trying to say that, you know, someone like him is that someone that can name drop, someone that is not, you know. Not sufficiently opposed to them that they can't even incorporate him as part of their controlled opposition.
@ehsanjoarderSo it's very interesting how everything is kind of playing out. And I would say that, you know, on the whole, people are realizing and they mentioned again that in the campus situation where, you know, Charlie Kirk left this massive vacuum. But, you know, he was clearly on his way of, you know, opposing the tribe, opposing the state of Israel publicly.
@ehsanjoarderAnd unfortunately, he didn't do that soon enough. And that's why they were able to decapitate him and then, you know, say that he was a martyr for Israel. But regardless, all of the billions of dollars that they're spending and tens of billions of dollars, if not hundreds of billions of dollars they're spending on propaganda, Hasbara, if you will, is now working.
@ehsanjoarderAnd they specifically, Mike Rogers specifically mentioned, sitting down with Ted Cruz, that we are losing the youth. And the youth are asking me, are you taking Jewish money? He said a white Christian young man asked him, are you taking Jewish money? And that's such an important development, if you think about it. And this is in the backdrop of
@ehsanjoarderErica Kirk, you know, kind of being astroturfed as this new leader and, you know, trying to consolidate that pro-Israel base and the Zoomers. And it's not working no matter what. And you could give Candace Owens credit, but I think everybody deserves credit for pushing back so much for the Internet being somewhat free and people on Instagram, people on Twitter and everywhere else, TikTok, even still after all the...
@ehsanjoarderDr. Simon, Rabbi Jeff
3:16:10Shifting Terminology to Jewish Supremacy
@ehsanjoarderWe gotta stop saying Zionism. It's Jewish supremacy. Now, privately, I would say it's further than Jewish supremacy. I think we gotta say it like what we said at the JP conference. But, you know, one step before that in a public setting, in a way that you can have this discourse publicly, is to say Jewish supremacy, not Zionism, right?
@ehsanjoarderAnd as I was saying that, she nodded and she said, yes, you're right. It is Jewish supremacy. And it just so happened that Dan was texting in our group chat saying, tell Anna it's not Zionism. She needs to say Jewish supremacy. And I didn't even, you know, coordinate that. And it was just like, okay, there it is. You see, so again, again, again, we see this happening and everyone's starting to come together.
@ehsanjoarderAnd what Dan's been promoting, which, you know, I think he will be at next JP conference, ideally in the spring or summer of next year. He's been talking about unity. And we do have a lot of differences and we're not going to completely agree on almost anything. In fact, as the founder of the JP project, as the guy who had to coordinate.
@ehsanjoarderand Finance, the first JP conference. It was very, very difficult to get all of the different personalities in one room and not have everyone chop each other's heads off. But everyone understood that this is a bigger thing. It's a bigger picture. And people like Ayo Kimathi sharing the room with a guy like E. Michael Jones and Germar Rudolph.
@ehsanjoarderAnd just to show you how accelerationist everyone is getting, Germar was kind of a libtard almost in terms of his political ideology. I hate to say that because he's actually autistic genius and he suffered a lot for this cause. But Garmar just put out a book on October 7th. I think it was about Judaism as a cult of genocide.
@ehsanjoarderSomething along those lines. And I was about to buy it for Dan before I went to visit him. And I was telling my brother to check for it on Amazon. He said he couldn't find it. And as soon as I said that, I looked at Garmar's page and he said that Amazon had just banned the book. By saying that it was unavailable. So this is how far along we are.
@ehsanjoarderTo get a guy like Guillermo Rudolph, who's basically a liberal from Germany and who just wanted to address the Holocaust openly and directly, now he's writing a book about how Judaism is a cult of genocide. And that's not even his primary area of expertise. So things are moving in the right direction, but I do encourage everybody to stay tied to the Creator, get closer, and try to find ways to work with your fellow man, fellow woman in this regard, because this is something that
@ehsanjoarderTranscends us all, supersedes us all, and if we don't work together, we're all going to be Goya-sided.
@joann_marieI absolutely love it, and so many white bills, and I hope, are you guys doing a JP next year? I hope I make it this time.
@ehsanjoarderGod willing, yeah, we're looking to do it in the spring or summer. We're going to have to be very, very careful with the location and who gets to know about the location ahead of time and things like that. We're looking at different options, but I did talk to Dan briefly about it as well. I'm confident that he will be there.
@ehsanjoarderJake has already agreed to be there. Leonardo and Jake have, at least a few months ago, agreed to be co-hosts with me, so it should be fantastic.
@joann_marieI can't wait! I want Ian to marry Anna Kasperian, so I hope this happens. Let's make it happen. Thank you so much, Ken. Casey, go for it. You guys know each other, right?
@casey_whalenYeah, it's great to hear from you, Con. You're such a great orator and some very inspirational words there, as always. That's great you're planning to have another one. I know you really want to have a second JP conference and I hope that that goes according to plan and give me a call and I'd love to help with that. But I wanted to mention that I created a platform called Idaho Anti-Zionist, somewhat mimicking Dr. Rectenwald's Azapac.
3:19:42Idaho Anti-Zionist Watchdog Platform
@casey_whalenI was trying to essentially tie it on to Azapac, but because they deal with money, they can't really do that. So I created my own platform, just made a website. essentially to be a watchdog for upcoming legislation that favors foreign entities, let's say. And so that got a lot of attention. I actually got the Libertarian Party of Idaho to sign on pretty much immediately.
@casey_whalenSo I was really surprised by that. I think people just need a platform in your own state to latch onto, to work together, because we have an opportunity. to stand in the gap right now. I really feel like this is something we can all do in our own state. We understand how our state works. I'm just urging people to maybe think about creating your own platform.
@casey_whalenIt can be whatever you want, but I'm just mainly focused on upcoming legislation and trying to stop anything else from... For instance, in Idaho, they passed in 2021 an anti-boycott act for boycotting Israel, essentially. Sorry, I butchered that. And so I did a record request, and I found out through the Department of Administration that since 2001, since they enacted this anti-boycott Israel act, that it has never been enforced.
@casey_whalenAnd so essentially, it's just a way to chill free speech. The ACLA actually came out against it also. Or ACLU, I'm sorry. So I just feel like it's very important. And if people want to see my website, it's IdahoAntiZionist.com. And I'm working on having an event at the Capitol on January 11th, the first day of the legislative session.
@casey_whalenPlanning to have some speakers there, already reserved. The second floor of the Capitol, when the legislators will be walking around. So I'm hoping to have some people speak and I'm actually pretty excited for the future. It's a unique opportunity. So that's all I wanted to say. Thank you.
@joann_marieI love how hands-on you guys are. This is just absolutely brilliant. And I don't know if you guys have met MisterQuigley that we have up here. He's really cool, guys. I think you guys will make a great team as well. Hey, MisterQuigley, how are you?
Speaker 14I'm okay. I did a jiu-jitsu tonight and some days you're the hammer, some days you're the nail. I was definitely the nail today, so I got the shit beat out of me, but I'm thrilled to be here. Sorry I'm so late. Really love the energy here. Yeah, I don't have much to say because I was super late, but hello everyone. Hope everyone's having a good evening.
@joann_marieWe are. It was wonderful today and I'm happy that you're here. Don't be in any time.
Speaker 14Oh, I will. If I feel like I have anything to contribute, I definitely will, but I'm just kind of hanging out. I appreciate it.
@joann_marieAlright. Hubbard, go for it.
Speaker 12Yeah, sorry, coming in a little late. I definitely think there's a lot of psyops that are running through people right now before midterms. A lot's going on with Israel that's pretty crazy. I don't know. I do think they're like planning like with the limiting of energy I think there's going to be like a lot of probably destabilizing events happening but I don't know I think so too I don't know exactly what are they gonna do but yeah it is pretty rough right now I hope I hope they cannot get away with it
@joann_marieWhat's up, JoAnn? Yeah, Mr. Nobody Incarnate. Sure, I'll take a mic. I've been following Myron Gaines, among other people. By the way, what's up, Converse? Long time no hear from thee. What's up, man? Welcome to follow.
@mighty5thorI'm really impressed with Myron Gaines, above all people. Now, my white nationalist friends are going to say, but he's an African nigger. You shouldn't support him at all. Well, I support people who align with my morality and politics. Maybe, unfortunately, for them anyway. And I am in San Francisco, which has always been pretty diverse and pretty open-minded, whether that's good or bad.
@mighty5thorI'm barely awake here. I need coffee. But I did, I saw this clip, Myron Gaines updates. I put it in the bill below. I just want to play 63 seconds of it because I, for one, and as I said, I'm 56, Gen X. I grew up in a different era where we collectively as Amerikanskis, citizens, rule the roost. And we weren't being destroyed and possibly sent off to fight and die in Slava, Ukraine for this.
@mighty5thorCorrupt Government. At least, if that were the case, we were not aware of it. In the 80s, sure, they started offshore manufacturing. We had these traders, largely, let's be honest, Jewish CEOs. That is when they started to really capture the infrastructure of America. And Ronald Reagan wasn't as great as many people made him out to believe because trickle-down economics don't work for one simple reason.
@mighty5thorThank you so much for joining us.
@mighty5thorTour, if you will. And there's this 50 or 60-year-old Jewish guy who's saying, of course, the number one accusation to attempt to lower Myron Gaines' value. You have no money. You have no friends. Isn't the dude a multimillionaire? If you look at his real estate investments, his social media, all of that. So I'm going to shut up and have a laugh at how Myron Gaines addressed on his microphone this old man.
@mighty5thorHe's my age, but hey, I don't look like him whatsoever. Here we go. Thanks for the mic. I'll drop down and listen after this Here we go
Speaker 15He's doing a Roman salute repeatedly.
Speaker 15Thank you, you kike. Fuck you. We don't give a shit what you think. This is United States of America, not television. No one gives a shit what you gotta say. You're a fucking faggot Jew behaving like a Jew. Fuck you. Fuck Israel. You're a fucking kike. Shut the fuck up, faggot. Nobody gives a fuck what you gotta say. Okay?
Speaker 15We're not backing down. We're not being politically correct. Get the fuck out of here. You can't call me a liar, Jew. That's what matters. What did I lie about? Name one thing I've lied about. Name one thing.
Speaker 16About who you are. About who you are.
@mighty5thorOkay, and that's... The fact is, Myron is a true teller like so many other people. and what did Napoleon say in 1808? I'm sorry, Emperor Napoleon Bonaparte of France in 1808 with his third issued decree, the Jews survived through a strategy of lying. We all know this. So here in America, we're never gonna give into this political correctness, this feminist faggotry, this weakness.
@mighty5thorI understand people have jobs and so many people say, oh, I have Jewish coworkers, I have a Jewish employer. It's unfortunate. I don't, I have nothing to do with them. But I observe every other half of my day every day. It's driving me a little nuts. Thank God I started bumping iron again. I feel way more sane and just more better.
@mighty5thorSo follow the guy because I think the way he is talking to them right down to earth on a level that everybody here can understand. I forget what snippet of a speech that was, but that's it. I'll shut up. Great space. Thank you.
@joann_marieAlways gets such good energy, Mandy. I love it. Thank you so much for coming up. And, you know, I disagree with some things with Myron, but I also agree with a lot of things with Myron. So, yeah, no, he's cool. So thank you so much for putting that. I haven't seen it. Isn't it weird how the Jews always sound the same? It's just crazy.
@joann_marieBut, Mandy, what are your thoughts so far?
@mandyarthurI had to come back. Yeah, I've been listening. And I mean, about the psyops, there's actually I was talking to JoAnn about this the other day that because she always sent me some things where people are just like going out of their absolute minds with the psyops. And we have hypothesized that all of these psyops have gotten to a point where people's brains are literally breaking.
@mandyarthurAnd there was some that she sent me about who's that about Bonnie Blue being a man. and she's like you can literally go online and see every inch of this girl she's not a man you know and then this there's a new Kendall Jenner one or whoever one of the Jenners not not the one that's actually a tranny but um anyway it's yeah it's wild and the when I think about these spaces even about um
@mandyarthurThe gentleman who was in here and he was so well informed is that if you don't do the work to actually uncover what is true and you just sort of take the lazy way, then I think what happens is, and it's not necessarily lazy, people are very busy with their lives, but if they get a taste of all the things that we've been lied to about and then we just have to go on with our lives, I think what happens is just a complete...
@mandyarthurThank you so much for having me.
@mandyarthurinto the things that we've been lied to about while also not making them feel like they have no connection to reality. Like if you go outside and walk in the grass, there's still the sun, there's still the trees, there's still, despite all the chemicals, there's still the birds and the insects, whichever ones are left.
@mandyarthurAnd it can still feel like it did when you were little. And it's not all depressing and dark and insane. It's not all a psyop. There's still real life, and there's just some really bad people who have been doing a lot of really bad things for a really long time. And we're waking up to that reality. And so we need to touch grass, stay grounded, and then also pursue these things together.
@mandyarthurThank you so much.
@mandyarthurThank you so much.
3:33:07Mandy on Community and Touching Grass
@mandyarthurAnd the community helps so much. And JoAnn and Ian and Truth Teller and all of them have helped me so much. And Lindsay and Dr. Strange and all the other wonderful people up here. But community, I think, is something that can get us through really the breaking of the ceiling into all of these psyops that literally have been lied to about almost everything.
@mandyarthurSo that community and then just making sure to touch grass. And then the entertainment side of it, which I mentioned with Joey Good. So that's why I love that we actually end all of our spaces with a fun song from Joey Good that reveals some amazing wild things that turned out to be true. Like the tiny hats, which connect so many amazing facts together in a way that's entertaining.
@mandyarthurIt just brings us back to, okay. It's heavy, but I can laugh about it. And in that moment when I'm laughing about it, it feels not so heavy. So it's the same feeling to me or it's the same benefit to me that our community gives me. So that was my thoughts on this. It is quite a bit. I will have to listen to this several times with the other gentlemen and with some of the other things that I've heard.
@mandyarthurBut I think, again, I would just warn anybody about. Spending 12 hours a day doing deep dives into all the things we've been lied to about. Set some time aside and do it, but take a moment to also step outside and realize that the whole world isn't actually falling apart completely. There's still really good things. There's still really good people.
@mandyarthurAnd there really is still a reason to look into this stuff and discover the truth because there's so much good in the world to protect and to fight for. So I'll leave it there.
@joann_marieThat was beautiful, Mandy. I 100% agree. There is some people that literally want to watch the world burn down and there is some that want to heal it. And I think there is a difference. And that's why I come here. Like, I always get very white-veiled. I get hopeful for the future. Ian Ranz are just absolutely amazing. You are so absolutely wholesome.
@joann_marieAll of the people here right now are just... They're so... I just love it so much. And they're always, like, very focused on... Dr. Simon, how are you? Yeah, I'm good. I just joined the space just because of Mandy.
@goddekum just saw that she was in the space right like a profile picture yeah i mean like i mean like best profile picture ever burning this flag i would love i would love to do this as well but i mean like it's hate speech here oh wow i'll carry it high for you yeah it's the best flag to burn yeah i guess maybe the second best the second best there's this one transsexual
@goddekPink, white, baby blue one. I hate even more.
@mandyarthurIt's the same one at the end of the day, though.
@goddekAt the end of the day, it is, yes. I was going to say. It's the same one.
@joann_marieThank you for coming out. Sorry, go for it, Mandy.
@mandyarthurI was going to say, we're talking about psyops, and I was talking about how I think some people are having their brains broken. Mike Tyson was Serena Williams. Somebody else was saying that Bonnie Blue was a man. Wasn't Mike Tyson Mike Obama?
@joann_marieI have sent it to Mandy like three times because I like, that is one of the, I try not to fall for rage paint, but that one, I can't, I can't, I'm like, how are people this dumb? And I, no, I hate it. Sorry, go for it, Dr. Simon.
@goddekWhat should I go for?
@mandyarthurOh, I was just going to ask you, because you live in the jungle, obviously, and it seems like you're very grounded while being very informed. And so my question to you would just be, What strategies could regular people in America who don't live in the middle of the jungle and have quite as much of a connection to nature possibly do to stay grounded while really waking up to that almost everything in their life has been a lie?
@goddekWow. Wow. That's a complex one. I wouldn't even know what to say. I think everybody needs their own time to wake up. I don't know if the jungle helped me because I was already awake before I moved here into the jungle. Actually, the jungle is the reason. No, not the reason. The reason why I moved here is because I woke up.
3:38:00Dr. Simon's Wake-Up Story
@goddekI was like, I want to be far from civilization. I mean, I love civilization. I love the city. I love traveling. But most of the time, I just want to be alone. I mean, I have family, of course, right? Animals, etc. But I mean, like... There are so many woke people out there, annoying people, people who told me thousands of times, oh, you're not vaccinated, you don't wear a mask, you're like Hitler.
@goddekI'm like, wow, that's wild. I'm hearing this now again, just because, oh, you don't want all the Palestinians to die, you must be Hitler, stuff like that. Anyways, that's the reason I live here. But I mean, like, eventually waking up, Informing ourselves, like everybody needs their own pace. It took me a while. I mean, I'm not 40.
@goddekAnd I started waking up in 2001 when I lived in Oklahoma. And, you know, we had like, in high school, we had like these old TVs that were like literally, I don't know, 20 inches times 20 inches. And they showed like how these planes were crashing into these twin towers. And all the teachers and everybody there was like, oh, kill all Palestinians.
@goddekAnd this is like the first time it was like, okay, something is wrong. Because me being from Europe, living in the US, hearing this and knowing this is just like bullshit. This is when I woke up and I was like 15 or 14. I was like a kid. And of course, with the time being, you learn more and more stuff. I was pro-Israel until 2020 or 2021.
@goddekEven though my father always told me, like, no, no, these people, they're like, he didn't say they poisoned the wells, but like, you know, they're destroying the wells. So there's a French-German TV station called Arte, or Arte in German, which means art, obviously. Anyways, and they always show these alternative documentaries.
@goddekMy dad, one night, he always fell asleep at 9 p.m., On the couch, he woke up at 1 a.m. And then they showed this documentary in the middle of the night, so nobody can see it, about Israel and Palestine, showing how the Israelis destroyed all the Palestinian wells. And he was telling me the next day, you can't believe what happened.
@goddekI'm like, what? What could have happened last night, right? We were snoring on the couch, and he told me. I saw this documentary, like, fucked up. And I went online, I looked up again, and was like, wow, this is fucked up. So... That was the first time I actually woke up when it came up to Israel. And with the time being, you discover more things, West Bank, there's Fatah, there's Hamas, and how each of these parties was, not parties, but conflict parties, were founded and financed.
@goddekAnd then you actually eventually figure out, okay, Israel is 100% evil, the other ones are the victims. The opposite of what we have been told. At least when it comes to this, it was my wake-up episode. You don't just wake up to one thing. You wake up to many things. To the food supply, to what they put into the tap water, to...
@goddekTo sunscreen, to vegetable oils, to vaccines. You wake up to everything, literally everything. To sports, to the TV, to mainstream media, to everything. And, you know, once you've seen it, you can't unsee it. Yeah, and, you know, I think you were asking me, like, how the jungle can help. I think, you know, like a physical isolation.
@goddekAt least to some degree can help a lot because you're just confronted with yourself and your own thoughts. And you're not, you know, nobody is or nothing can... I'm lacking words right now.
@goddekCan someone help me? Sorry, English is my fourth language. You can't be, you know, you're just like with yourself, with your own thoughts. Oh, solitude. Nobody else can intervene, you know. I think it's intervene and can disturb you and yourself.
Speaker 1Solitude, Dr. Simon?
@goddekWhat?
Speaker 1Solitude.
@goddekNo, I wasn't looking for that word. There's another one. There's another one. Maybe someone has a dictionary, an old Oxford one. But at least you can't be disturbed in your own thoughts. And this helps a lot, of course. I can just walk in the jungle for like two or three hours. And then even if you try to not think about anything...
@goddekyou know thoughts come up and if you try to just um you know you just try to recognize your thoughts you don't try to you know think actively or just passively then you understand more about yourself than you than you knew before so that's what i'm trying to do just like things come up in the brain brains the brain is a fucked up thing so um you know just observing you know when you're in the middle of the nature nobody's there maybe like some some some deadly snakes
@goddekor spiders or whatever and you know just you just you know check what are the thoughts that come up you know what are the ideas that are coming up um they just they just appear you try to not think about anything where they just appear and trying to notice them and then you know and then just like apply some logical reasoning that's that's what helped me a lot and that that's what what keeps me grounded um you know otherwise i would freak out
@goddekWith everything that's happening on this planet right now. I mean, like, I know if you're following my tweets the last couple of days, that everybody's calling me a fucking Zionist fascist. Which is super extreme. I mean, like, I don't know. There are only a few people who are more anti-Zionist and anti-Jewish supremacy than I am.
@goddekBut here in Brazil, you know, I'm right-wing, and unfortunately the right-wing parties are pro-Zionist, but I mean, like... Our alternative here would be like, you know, Venezuelan-Cuban, you know, conditions, which I don't want. So, of course, I'm siding with the right-wing politicians who are unfortunately totally, you know, totally nuts when it comes to Israel.
@goddekTotally nuts. But, I mean, like, you know. And then I'm saying, like, okay, I'm pro-right-wing. I'm a right-wing libertarian. Totally right-wing libertarian who's anti-Israel and who's anti-Tiny Hat, right? We exist. But, you know, it's not like that this world is a, you know, one topic policy that just like, you know, that Zionism is the whole everything that counts.
@goddekFor people here, what's important is, you know, that they have, that they can get cheap gas, good food, low taxes, etc. And, of course, the leftist Marxists, they want to raise the taxes to 99%. And the right-wing people were like, oh, no, we are pro-freedom and pro, you know, whatever. But we love Israel. And I'm like, okay, I'm pro-freedom, I'm pro-free speech, and I hate Israel, but I mean, it's better than Marxism or Stalinism, you know?
3:46:10Purity Spiral and Zionist Fascist Labels
@goddekSo people called me a Zionist fascist. Many people, just to check my comments. But still, I'm in the middle of the jungle, so I don't care. I mean, they're wrong, and I'm right, at least at this point. Sorry, enough for the monologue.
@mandyarthurNo, I actually... I understand what you're saying, and there has been so much infighting. We had a guy in here earlier that was talking about how he was looking forward to Thomas Massey running or Marjorie Taylor Greene.
@goddekYeah, they're the best. Thomas and Marjorie are the best.
@mandyarthurI agree. But I'm sure that you've seen, so during the election... Thomas Massey had, there were people coming out and saying, look, he had these people with Muslim names donating to him. And then another person said, look, he had somebody who was Jewish that donated to him. And so it's I feel like we're going into a purity spiral where we literally have warmongering, child eating pedophiles running our country.
@mandyarthurAnd we're literally going to be like, nope, we can't have this other person that's completely against all of that because they one time took a donation from somebody named Muhammad.
@goddekExactly. I mean, I have in my PMs, I'm talking with three people from Israel. They have like the most Jewish names ever. And we talk normally in the PMs and we exchange, you know, ideas, etc. And these people are totally pro-Israel. I mean, they live in Israel, but they have concerns regarding Netanyahu and the policies.
@goddekAnd we just talk, right? It's like someone was saying, oh, you're talking to a Jew there. Like, how dare you? I mean, like, I mean... There are good people on each side. There are very good Muslims out there who just want the best for us. There are good Jewish people out there. But it doesn't mean... Even if 99% of the Jewish people are fucked up, there's still 1% that's sane.
@goddekAnd I will never say, okay, it's all of them. This 1% deserves all the respect. The same with this, what is this Muslim's name right now that everyone is hating, you know, in the United States? Abdul or something. Abdul Als... whatever, you know. Same, same. Anyways, and actually I like what he's saying. And the whole right is like, oh my gosh, this guy is like the worst ever.
@goddekWe should deport him, etc. Whenever I hear him talking and he comes up with like logical reasoning, I'm like, wow, whatever he's saying sounds quite sane, right? And, you know, it's not all the Muslims. And I think, well, actually, I'm not anti-Muslim at all. I think, you know, at least as long as it doesn't come to Wahhabism.
@goddekAnd Wahhabism to me is like fucked up. But, you know, the average Muslim person is just like us, right? They believe that Jesus is a prophet, super important person, good person, Mother Mary, you know, etc. And the Jew believes that, you know, Mother Mary was a whore and Jesus is like boiling excrements in hell. That that distinguishes us.
@goddekBut I mean, like, with a Muslim, I can say, like, oh, Jesus was awesome. And he was like, oh, yeah, he's the best, you know. Oh, wow, wow, you know. Tell Ben Shapiro that Jesus was awesome. He wants to kill you right away. He gets mad, right? So, I mean, you can't compare a Muslim to a Jew. A Muslim person is much closer to us than a Jewish person.
@mandyarthurYeah, that's right, which is why it's crazy that the term Judeo-Christian even exists. And I don't know of any Muslim prophecy where in the end times they're going to have 2,800 Christian slaves. So, it's obviously a clear-cut difference, and it's insane that this ever happened. What? What? What? What Holocaust?
@mandyarthurJewish Christian Alliance and Jewish Christian Values
@joann_marieI think they are allowed to kill Gentiles.
@goddekBut then you have to refer to the Talmud, not to the Old Testament or the Torah, of course.
@joann_marieA lot of them don't look into the Talmud. And also, I mean, in the Torah, it's kill Amalek, so there's that. They only kill every woman, man, child, animal from Amalek. So, yeah, they're fine with killing Gentiles.
@mandyarthurYeah, and I actually, one of the things, and I'll, I just have a quick point. One of the things I mentioned to somebody who was pretty hardcore, what he would think is a Christian. I was just chatting with him recently and he said, well, I think he said, I'm trying to figure out if AI is it is the Antichrist or if it's Islam.
@mandyarthurAnd I said, I was just trying to get him to see about Judaism. And I said, well, doesn't the Bible say that everybody who rejects Jesus is Antichrist? I'm like, who is that? Who rejects Jesus? What major religion rejects Jesus? Oh, OK, so. Oh, so the Antichrist is literally Judaism then. So everybody who rejects Jesus Christ is Antichrist.
3:52:11Antichrist Defined as Rejecting Jesus
@mandyarthurIt says it in the Bible. People always talk about the Antichrist is just going to be this one. And yeah, there is one. But it also says that there's many Antichrists and an Antichrist is somebody who rejects Jesus. So, yeah, every single person who is a believer in Judaism is Antichrist.
Speaker 14Well, and. Sorry if I can just jump in on that thought.
Speaker 1Yeah, please don't.
Speaker 14The more that I appreciate it, the more that I've started to think of Antichrist as a as a spirit or as a presence that emanates from. The the individual Antichrist, you know, whenever whoever it ends up being Antichrist as a spirit that kind of. Thank you so much.
Speaker 14We get caught up, or at least I did, being raised as an evangelical Christian, looking for this individual. My father was convinced for a decade that Obama was the Antichrist. And not far off, mind you, but was convinced that Obama was the literal Antichrist. And people get so fixated on the individual person that they don't pay attention to the more subtle, insidious,
Speaker 14Spiritual component that penetrates every part of a society. Everywhere that we look now, we see child sacrifice. At every level of Western society, we see children being sacrificed and butchered and perverted and drugged. And what did Christ say and emphasize more frequently than the protection of children? Anyway, I'll end up
Speaker 14Going on a tear, but the gist of it is to, I think it has become more helpful for me in fighting the part of the fight that I'm fighting to think of Antichrist as that which delights in the destruction of innocence and that it isn't an individual, it is a spirit. And it isn't just the destruction of innocence, but it is the celebration, the revelry in the destruction of innocence.
3:54:51Antichrist as a Spirit
Speaker 14And once you start to see it in that way, you'll see it fucking everywhere in every part of Western society right now. And it all ties back into a very particular ancient Babylonian death cult. And everything that they touch oozes with that. Anyway, that's where my head's been at all day today. Thank you so much for having me.
@mandyarthurThank you so much for joining us.
@mandyarthurSo again, you're right, and it does come from that same root. So it's good to notice that, and that's why it's called noticing, is that we're noticing where this stuff emanates from, but it doesn't mean that it's just those people, because it's clearly infected far more people than just them.
Speaker 14Oh, no. Yeah, it is. There's plenty of Shabbos Goy out there. No, it isn't a...
Speaker 14I don't think that it's bloodline specific. I really don't. I think that I'm still not convinced entirely that it isn't... Did he cut out? I'm sorry?
@joann_marieNo, we can hear him. JoAnn is here. Oh, it's me then. Oh my God. I don't think JoAnn is here. All right. I'll just stay quiet. Sorry.
Speaker 14Oh, it's okay. Oh, shoot. What was I saying? I've completely derailed now.
Speaker 14It's definitely ideological. So there are people that buy into it. Even if every spiritual component of the ancient Babylonian death cult is legitimate and viable, there's still plenty of not true believers. There's still plenty of opportunist psychopaths that are just playing their part. There's plenty of otherwise perfectly decent people that just go along to get along because they need to feed their kids.
Speaker 14I don't think that every single person participating in the Overall architecture of Antichrist is fucking demonic. But there's this, I'm going to butcher the Latin, but there's this Latin phrase that translates to many men make monsters. And the idea that the larger an organization becomes, the less human it becomes because any individual person within the organization bears less and less responsibility for the ultimate outcomes that are being generated by that system.
Speaker 14So you see this in corporations, you see this in governments. So no, I don't think that all of the people that are participating in what ultimately results in the butchering of children, I think that a lot of them think that they're doing the right thing. I think a lot of the people that are transing kids are falling prey to this false manifestation of compassion.
Speaker 14They actually think that they're helping these kids. And I can sympathize to an extent But there's only so far that you can ignore the consequences of that over so many decades. My sympathy starts to run thin once we have so much evidence that what you're doing is fucking butchering children.
Speaker 14Again, my heart breaks for anybody who suffers from... Any psychological condition that leads you to the conclusion that you need to cut off parts of your body to feel good about yourself or to feel relief, that sounds horrific. That sounds like hell to me. But at the same time, this misplaced sympathy, this misplaced altruism, this misplaced compassion, which otherwise should be directed towards maybe, like you said, all of those, was it 2.5 billion kids that have been aborted?
Speaker 14It's like one third or one fifth of Gen Z has been aborted or something like that. It's unbelievable. It is staggering. And I've really come around on this. I used to be very libertarian, egalitarian when it came to abortion. Me too. Slap me. Yeah, I mean, it just it hits you in the face when you hear that number. You're like, dear God, man, we've aborted more children in the last 50 years than all adult humans have been killed in every war before that in history.
Speaker 14And granted that that's a consequence of population growth. But but still, you know, anyways, I've completely lost the plot. Suffice it to say, we should protect kids. Stop hurting kids. And if you are on team not Israel, not pedophile, not child sacrifice, then we're on the same team. And that's about it as far as I'm concerned.
@joann_marieYou have amazing rants, Mr. Quigley. I'm so happy.
Speaker 14Thank you. I get going and I don't know where I'm going to end up, but here we are.
@joann_marieNo, he had an episode with Jess and... It was awesome. That's how Rabbi found you. And we were listening to it without MisterQuigley. And then they messaged him and they were like, come over. And he actually came over. And I was like, oh, my God, you need to come to EM Spaces. So now he's here. It's been a couple of days.
@joann_marieSo I'm really happy that we found you.
Speaker 14Jess is such a fucking delight, man. We text every day.
Speaker 14He's such a cool guy. I'm so happy to have made a friend.
@joann_marieI told him to come to one of our spaces and you can be here with him and you guys can have the back and forth. It would be awesome.
Speaker 14I will totally do that. I guarantee he's asleep right now, but I'll have him follow and I'll see if I can drag him into one of these days. Maybe I'll get him... on the one that Ian and I are going to do in November. That would be a little fun.
@joann_marieThat would be so cool. I hope, I hope it does. Yeah. And your runs are seriously awesome, MisterQuigley. So thank you.
Speaker 14Well, I appreciate it. I'm glad you appreciate it.
@joann_marieThey are really cool.
@mandyarthurYeah, and she's not the only one. I mean, you are really well informed and you're over the target. So anytime you want to rant, just go right on ahead.
Speaker 14I appreciate it. I like to give other people room to speak, but if I ever feel like I have anything to contribute, I will absolutely hop in. I appreciate it.
@joann_marieGo for it. We don't have that many people. I don't know where Ian went. I'm like, oh no. I was messaging Rabbi like, come up. We need speakers. Oh my God.
Speaker 14Well, what's been going on? Okay, I'm working on my next Rabbi Says video at the moment. And it's going to be featuring Rabbi... Oh Christ, what's his name? Rabbi... Yaron Ruven. I posted a clip of him on my on my page a few days ago of where he was acknowledging that everything wrong with the Weimar Republic leading up to the Third Reich was completely the fault of the Jews and that like all of the all of the usury and pornography and transing of kids and and and just the degradation of that culture was entirely the Jews.
Speaker 14So it's a rabbi getting up on stage and saying, oh, yeah, this was totally the Jews. And I don't know that he goes so far as to say Hitler was right to outlaw pornography, outlaw trans and kids, and outlaw usury. But he says the quiet part out loud, which is great. But the part of the rabbi hole that I got into with him in particular was a clip where he talks about how, technically speaking, according to the Mishnah Torah, biological family members can get married if one or both of them converts to Judaism.
Speaker 14A Mother and Her Child. There's this whole list, if you go into this particular chapter, and I'll go into it in the video, but this whole subsection of the Mishnah Torah that has to do with forbidden sexual contact, and it gives the rationale. It's like, yeah, when you convert to Judaism, you get a new body, you become a new person.
Speaker 14And so therefore, it completely... Absolves the biological reality of inbreeding, allegedly, apparently. And it lists, of course, in excruciating fucking dewy detail, it lists out all of the different configurations, all of the different fucking familial sexual entanglements that you might have and which ones are okay and which ones are not.
Speaker 14And spoilers, most of them are okay. It's really gross and, you know... Probably accounts for why there was a really, really, really, really above baseline level of inbreeding leading up into 1950.
@joann_marieIt's just very insane how they just find these loopholes to everything. They're like, well, if you do this, it's fine.
Speaker 17Technically speaking, I can bork my sister so long as we look sideways on the Tuesday and blow out of our left nostril four seconds. And then shit in our hands, I can balk my sister. God said so.
4:05:40Rabbi Says Inbreeding Loopholes Video
Speaker 14I shit you not, dude. It's grotesque. And I think I might have to take a break from my Rabbi Says videos after this because this one was so gross. Reading that chapter, it's the worst, man. Anyway, that's what's on my fucking brain right now.
@joann_marieAnd the one that you were talking about, that rabbi who was kind of like self-aware, was he bragging? Because a lot of them say it as bragging as we do this, you know? Yeah, like he's not remorseful. He's not like, yeah, guys, we deserve... No, he's like bragging, right?
Speaker 14Like, yes. I'll post the clip to the... What is it called? Jumbotron or whatever? But yeah, he's just I don't know that he's bragging. I think he's just kind of like, yeah, this was so his whole shtick, his whole brand is like, I'm just going to tell it like it is, you know, I'm going to say all of the quiet stuff out loud.
Speaker 14So he very he's very open about we should if it if it were not illegal to do so, we should kill Christian evangelists because technically speaking, they're trying to convert Jews away from their ultimate purpose. He talks about, he's like, oh no, the Talmud does absolutely say that Jesus is boiling in a vat of shit in hell, and that is definitely Jesus, and here's all the reasons why.
Speaker 14He's just very upfront about a lot of it. So in that way, he's doing a public service, and his YouTube channel has, I shit you not, 5,000 videos on it, many of which are over an hour long. So he's out here doing the Lord's work, I guess, because he's putting on a very... A very public face on all of the worst parts of orthodox rabbinic Judaism and in a very upfront way.
Speaker 14So I guess I owe him a debt of gratitude in that sense. But for those of us that have something resembling a conscience and an involuntary disgust response to the idea of fucking your sister,
Speaker 14It's not pleasant to wade through. I'll just give everyone a warning before you go digging through them. But there will be a video out next week, and I'm sure all of you will enjoy it as much as I have.
@joann_marieI cannot wait to watch it. They're really, really cool. And I think we have Ian back for Ian. Are you there? I saw an emoji.
Ian MalcolmNo, but it was a colorful delivery there, MisterQuigley, to say the least.
Speaker 14I am known for that. I have a reputation to uphold, after all.
Ian MalcolmNo, we continue hammering truth after truth, sometimes some more uncomfortable than others. But speaking of, I thought this was quite the space, JoAnn. I just want to thank everybody that was involved throughout the entirety of that conversation. Certainly Jim Fetzer, for anybody not currently following, we're going to try and see if we can get him on this platform more frequently.
Ian MalcolmAnd if so, wouldn't that be a treat? Because the man is just an absolute wealth of knowledge. So, JoAnn, before we wrap up, any kind of final thoughts, questions, comments?
@joann_marieYes, I'm going to go through the last two days of this week. Tomorrow, we have a space with Rob on health. And on Friday, we have Kenny Canceled. And that's going to be absolutely amazing. So I'll see you guys here. And I have tiny hats for the end. And it was such a great space, everyone. Thank you so much for hosting it, Ian.
@joann_marieMandy, you did absolutely amazing. MisterQuigley, I always love when you come up. It's awesome. Also, obviously, thank all of the speakers. And Jim was amazing. Listen to the recording. He's literally 85 years old and he recalls... Names like his truth teller. It's just absolutely wild. I have never seen anyone like that.
@joann_marieAnd he's just so kind and loving. And he was just a wonderful person. And yeah, guys, please follow everyone on the panel. Can, who I haven't seen in ages as well. And also Dank, who is down in the listeners, for putting all of his spaces on Rumble, Spotify, Apple Podcasts. IanMalcolm84.com and that looks absolutely beautiful here on Malcolm Spaces and on Instagram and TikTok so no excellent space Ian and we can go to Mandy and MisterQuigley for final remarks and then I'll play tiny hats Mandy go for it oh I was not ready I don't know I was just going to mention something based on what MisterQuigley was saying before about how they uh
@mandyarthurjustify these things in their heads and to me I just noticed a through line or a pattern when he was talking about that to where when you talk to somebody who considers themselves a leftist they will often you know and you say hey you know they're butchering children and the way that they play it off is they say well it's not that many and I've actually seen that happen with people like it doesn't really happen you know or if you say oh you know people who just kill their kids for no reason like why do we have up until birth
@mandyarthurup until birth abortions and then oh it doesn't really happen so don't worry about it if you confront uh you know anybody with any semblance of moral fiber who considers themselves a jew they'll say oh yeah but we don't really take that seriously you know and it's like well okay then you don't need it then right you can you can denounce it then right just like you can denounce the child trans thing then right you can denounce abortions then right and it's like oh no no don't want to denounce it
@mandyarthurSo at the end of the day, they do support it. So, you know, it's just they can real they understand that it's questionable or not even questionable. It's just downright demonic. And they don't want to they don't want to align themselves with it, even in their own head, because they do realize it's wrong. But the way they get around it is by saying things like, oh, well, that doesn't really happen.
@mandyarthurBut then when you push them, as I said, to denounce it or to, you know, say, well, why do we need it? They get a little bit too protective. So I just noticed that that's interesting with a lot of these groups trying to defend the indefensible. But it was a wonderful space and it covered so much. And I was glad to be more a part of it at the end as the conversation shifted to more of things that I have knowledge about.
@mandyarthurSo anyway, it was wonderful. Talking with you, JoAnn, and hearing from all the speakers and obviously having this space with Ian. Always love when he comes back in and we're like, oh, Ian's back. It's wonderful. And I can't wait to hear Tiny Hats. Is that the tune we're playing that you said?
@joann_marieIt is, yes.
@mandyarthurThat's my favorite one.
@joann_marieIt is. I always dance like it's so hard because I want to sing it and the speaker is out. So I, oh my God, it's so good. Mr. Quigley, would you like to say a prayer?
Speaker 14Oh, wow. I'd be honored. Amazing. Go for it. Real quick, just one thing. On that last thought, Mandy, the thing that you just said, so what that brought back to mind, another part of the video with this one particular rabbi, with the stuff that we were just talking about, the stuff that they're trying to justify, where we're going to engage in these deviant behaviors, these deviant sexual behaviors with family members.
Speaker 14He specifically says in the video, he says, now the sages did forbid these things in many cases. Why? Not because they're wrong, but because we wouldn't want the goyim to think of us as incestuous people. So it feeds into this concept of that which can be legally permitted is the only standard by which morality is determined, which is,
Speaker 14Psychopathy made manifest in an ideology, which is insane. It's just, what can we get away with?
@mandyarthurWhich is exactly what Jesus was against, which is exactly why he called them whitewashed tombs, which is exactly why he called out the Pharisees the way he did. And then, wildly, modern Judaism is started by the Pharisees. Rabbinic Judaism was founded by the Pharisees. Nobody realizes that. It's like this is exactly the antithesis of every single thing Jesus taught by the people he criticized his whole time.
@mandyarthurIt's crazy. And by the way, the stats are 99.7. 99.7% of Jews today are rabbinic. So it's like, yeah, it is. It is all of them, actually.
Speaker 14I'm going to butcher the verse, but you clean the outside of the cup, but the inside of the cup is full of all manner of rotten, the bones of old men. I forget that it's been a minute since I've read. But yes, I would love to, on that note, allow me to lead us in prayer.
4:15:36Closing Prayer and Tiny Hats
Speaker 14In the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, Lord God, thank you for this day. Thank you for this opportunity to meet with like-minded people. Thank you for the grace of another day and for the expression of gratitude, which we absolutely owe you, Lord God. You never told us that this life would be easy, but you led by example and you asked us
Speaker 14To follow in your footsteps and to only do what you were willing to do first, please help us to remember that we are here to lay down our lives and to make sacrifices to protect those who are less fortunate than us and to lift up those fallen by the side of the road and to be the Good Samaritan that you led by example for us to be.
Speaker 14And help us to look out for those who are less fortunate than us and give us the opportunities to show your love through good works. And again, thank you for this amazing space with these like-minded people. May we have many more of these excellent conversations in pursuit of truth. In Christ's name we pray. Amen.
@joann_marieThat was beautiful. Thank you so much, MisterQuigley. And I love you all. God bless. This is Tiny Hearts by Joey Goode.
Speaker 18There's a little secret that you may not know But if you don't figure it out, you will never grow So let me put it in a nutshell so that you can see The Tiny Hats, destruction of humanity They start the wars, Tiny Hats They killed our Lord, Tiny Hats They gave us usury and pornography They cause inflation
Speaker 19Yeah!
