Name: Is Jesus A Jew
Uploaded: 2026-09-17
Duration: 4 h 23 min 2 s
Description: Ian opens the Space with a Josh Groban trivia question before pivoting to the existence of Christ.

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Chapters — 39

0:00quiet, reflectiveJosh Groban Trivia And OpeningIan opens the Space with a Josh Groban trivia question before pivoting to the existence of Christ.
10:37measured, soberOrigin of the Term 'Jew'The host unpacks the word 'Jew' and questions its modern application to historical figures.
19:46disillusionedMandy Opens With A Nietzsche QuoteMandy begins her presentation by quoting a French general she found in Nietzsche's writings.
25:41weathered, resignedThe Language Spell of the Word 'Jew'Mandy argues that modern translators swapped older words for 'Jew,' misleading modern readers about first-century identities.
26:30grave, forebodingYehudi, Ioudaios, and Nazarene DefinedMandy breaks down the original Greek and Hebrew words used in the texts versus the modern English word 'Jew.'
29:15cool, analyticalJesus Never Called Himself a JewMandy asserts that Jesus never used the term 'Jew' for himself and was instead known as a Nazarene.
31:29heated, combativeRabbinic Judaism vs. Jesus' TeachingsMandy explains that modern Judaism is based on the Pharisees' rabbinic traditions, which Jesus actively opposed.
36:18raw, woundedJesus' Condemnation of the PhariseesMandy quotes Jesus' direct rebukes of the Pharisees to show he was not part of their sect.
39:45grim, scorchedFounders of Modern Israel and KhazariaMandy presents the origins of modern Israel's founders and the Khazarian theory.
42:48sombre, searchingChristian Zionism's Two HooksMandy explains how Christian Zionism uses the phrase 'Jesus was a Jew' to secure political support for modern Israel.
46:36urgent, incendiaryAlternative Theories on Jesus' LineageMandy shares breadcrumbs about Jesus' Galilean origins and the Khazarian conversion theory.
48:32calm, distantTrue Children of AbrahamMandy argues that true children of Abraham are a matter of faith, not genealogy, and that Jesus was not a Talmud Jew.
1:03:12detached, weighingAesiric Media Argues Jesus Was JewishAesiric Media presents biblical evidence claiming Jesus was both religiously and ethnically Jewish.
1:10:36hard, unyieldingEdomite Conversion Into Judean SocietyThe rebuttal shifts to historical evidence that Edomites were absorbed into Judean society under John Hyrcanus.
1:22:36broodingEdomites And The Talmudic DistinctionThe speaker cites Josephus to argue that the Pharisees were Edomite descendants rather than Israelites and contrasts their oral traditions with the Mosaic faith.
1:25:30bleak, drainedMandy Rebuts Assumed Agreement TacticsMandy calls out psychological debate tactics and the conflation of modern Jews with Pharisees.
1:40:05conflicted, dividedSmoldering Precision On GentilesSmoldering Precision questions the definitions of Jews and Gentiles in biblical prophecy.
1:49:32charged, alertEdomites and Word GamesA speaker cuts through the Jew-versus-Gentile debate by arguing that modern Jews are Edomites and that the word Jew covers anyone living in Judea.
1:59:35warm, expansiveCalling for Christian-Pagan UnityGodfrey urges white Christians and pagans to stop infighting and unite.
2:08:55melancholy, tenderCQ Pirate Radio Argues For PaganismCQ Pirate Radio attacks the Christian position and argues for a return to ethnocentric paganism.
2:21:30unsettlingGenBlessings on Jesus ending the Jewish religionGenBlessings argues that Jesus was the last Jew and that racism is the ultimate sin.
2:35:51guarded, evenHebrewism vs. Talmudic JudaismVeritas reads explicit passages from the Talmud to contrast it with Mosaic law and Christianity.
2:39:28dry, matter-of-factProphecy and the Mixed MultitudeA caller argues that modern Jews are still the biblical Jews, citing prophecy and the scattering of Israel.
2:52:12hard-wonTony's Temple Law ArgumentTony argues Jesus was not Jewish religiously based on temple access laws.
2:55:23eerie, electricTony Wakuu on Jesus not entering the inner templeTony argues Jesus was not Jewish because he never entered the inner quarters of the temple.
2:59:02dimmed, wary[guest] Challenges Tony's Logic[guest] calls out Tony's argument from silence regarding Mary's ritual bath.
3:11:57tentative, hopefulH1story Media on Jesus and HanukkahH1story Media argues that Jesus being present at the Feast of Dedication does not mean he celebrated it.
3:20:40murky, uneasyDecipher on flat earth and controlled oppositionDecipher challenges Veritas on his biblical cosmology views before being redirected.
3:26:03worn, nostalgicNinth of Tevet and PeterThe caller claims Jews fast on the Ninth of Tevet for Simon Peter, which Veritas corrects as the anniversary of Ezra and Nehemiah.
3:39:40smouldering, restlessWolf Rayet Offers Historical ProbabilityWolf Rayet argues Jesus was likely Jewish based on the Gospel genealogies.
3:43:32grave, forebodingScholarly Probability of Jesus' JewishnessA caller argues that based on the highest probability and scholarly consensus, Jesus was Jewish.
3:48:52measured, soberDefining A Jew In AntiquitySpeakers clash over what made someone a Jew in the ancient world.
3:50:59heated, combativeCrucified As King Of The JewsA caller corrects the claim that Jesus was crucified simply as a Jew.
3:52:30cool, analyticalHebrew vs Jew DistinctionA speaker argues modern Jews are distinct from ancient Hebrews.
3:55:31raw, woundedMoses Preceded The Word JewA caller questions how Jesus could be a Jew if Moses wasn't one.
3:58:28grim, scorchedModern Jews Have No ConnectionA speaker claims modern Jews share nothing with ancient Hebrews.
4:04:20sombre, searchingHanukkah Assumption DebateA caller is pressed on his assumption that Jesus celebrated Hanukkah.
4:11:35urgent, incendiaryTalmudic Judaism And The SanhedrinA caller argues Jesus followed Pharisaic Judaism and the Sanhedrin.
4:16:54quiet, reflectiveThe Word Jew Did Not ExistA speaker argues Jesus was not a Jew because the word did not exist.

The Transcript

A voice is named only when we can verify it — by voiceprint, an @handle present in the room, or the Space’s own title. Anyone we can’t confirm stays “Speaker,” on purpose.

Ian MalcolmI don't know about you guys. I'm sure there's a lot of people rolling their eyes. But when he hits the high note, JoAnn, I got to be honest, my hand went up in the air. I was like, yes, let's go. And so JoAnn, I got to ask, perhaps can you, I'm sure you could name the dude because he says it over and over again. But can you name that incredible vocalist?

@joann_marieHi, and thank you so much for hosting. And I love, love, love, love, love that song. I forgot it existed. I haven't listened to it in ages. And I think I'm going to have to call a friend to see who the person who sings it is. I don't remember who it is.

Ian MalcolmNo, that's very fair. So you've got a couple options. And I see that we've got Max, who's also coming up. You are welcome, JoAnn, to phone a friend. You can also poll the audience and people can throw things into the purple pill. It's your choice, whichever direction you want to go.

@joann_marieOkay, I think Lori knows. Donnie, do you know?

Speaker 1No, I wanted to know the name of the song. Okay, never mind. I was going to say, I wonder what that good music is, that song, and I'm like, I have no way of knowing that you guys are talking about it. It's such a good song.

@joann_marieI think everybody has heard it, but I don't know who sings it, though. Maybe Mandy does.

@joann_marieMandy?

@mandyarthurYeah, it's not, I can't, I can't lie, especially in this space. I looked it up. Oh no!

Ian MalcolmJoAnn, here, I'm going to give you a hint. You could use another lifeline and perhaps you could poll the audience because I think in the purple pill you might have a saving grace pun intended here.

@joann_marieOkay, hold on, hold on, hold on. No! Where is it? I mean, I already got 10. Wait, where is it? No.

@joann_marieI don't see anybody replying to what song it is.

@proteusvxIs the singer Al Greenwood? I'm not sure. I'm just guessing.

Ian MalcolmNo, it's not. I put it up into the nest. I'm sorry, JoAnn. Thanks to George Bear. You have been saved. And it doesn't matter anyway because this is the bonus round because you already got 10 right in a row. But that was Josh Groban. It is about as corny as I suppose you could go. What is this? Hi, I love corny.

@joann_marieCorny is nice.

Ian MalcolmCorny is nice. You got Groban, you got Andrea Bocelli. You could go all the way back to Michael Bolton.

@joann_marieI think Westlife also covered this song at some point. Westlife is also nice.

Ian MalcolmIt's pretty spectacular. Now, here's the thing. While not a practicing... Member of the Tribe, Josh Groban. Significant Jewish ancestry on both sides of the family. So in a space about, was Jesus a Jew? Well, Josh Groban was. I will still give him lots of credit though. Unbelievable vocalist, really talented guy. He's actually also, he did a couple cameos, if I'm not mistaken, for TV shows, maybe in The Office or something.

Ian MalcolmBut it has the ability to be self-deprecating, and I can appreciate anybody in Hollywood that has a large following that's able to crack a joke about themselves and those other things. So kudos to Mr. Groban in that regard. And again, it is just a beautiful song, beautiful singer, really wonderful rendition of that song.

Ian MalcolmSo this idea of you raise me up, right? What could raise us up? Well, even more than that song, I suppose. The idea of a higher power, of some kind of moral compass that we are getting behind to try and live a more righteous life, which for what it's worth, in case this is of interest to anybody, I genuinely believe, you know why you should live a good life?

Ian MalcolmBecause if you do, you create heaven on earth. And I know that that maybe sounds silly, but if you think about it, if you are a good, genuine person, The world around you will respond in kind. And even if it doesn't, in many ways, you get to lay your head down at the end of the day and you get to be proud of who you are.

Ian MalcolmNow, if you go the inverse, right? If we think of the idea of Christ being essentially tempted by Lucifer, by Satan, overlooking everything, right? When Jesus is out in the desert and Satan says, I can give you all of this stuff, right? Say you take it.

Ian MalcolmMore money, more cars, more houses. End of the movie. What does the guy want? Well, I'll let you figure it out in case you haven't seen it. But my point is a lot of these people that have everything, they've got nothing, right? And so the irony, you can be the good person. You can live the good life. Maybe it'll give you all the riches and all those other things.

Ian MalcolmAnd you can use that to build up your community, your family, your friends, all of those things. You'll feel good at the end of the day, almost regardless. We don't need nearly as much as we all have. And I know that that maybe sounds strange coming from me because I talk about the destruction of our middle class, which is a very reasonable thing to complain about.

Ian MalcolmBut think about this. I would rather be a guy in the middle who has enough to get by, who talks against that which is evil, than to be somebody that is a little bit more. But I have to live with the fact that I come into these rooms and I shill for the Jewish supremacists who are making everybody else's lives worse. What could be worse than that?

Ian MalcolmIn all sincerity, you could have everything. You could make it all the way. You could be Hugh Hefner. Make it all the way to the end of your life. You've got the mansion. You've got the young women that you're still, I guess, somehow dating or whatever it is, married to. You think that guy was really happy? I don't think he probably was.

Ian MalcolmThere's probably a lot of people that have a lot less that are a lot happier because of the decisions that they're making. To be moral, right? So this idea, you choose the right path. You live. You find yourself living. A Better Life Where You Feel Better About Who You Are, and I think that the inverse is the case. So what could, back to the song, what could raise us up even more than I suppose an inspiring piece of music, right?

Ian MalcolmIt is that thing that inspires the music. Who is it that wrote that original piece, the score, right? Where does this whole idea of music even come from? Where is that idea of the orchestras and all the instrumentation that went into those? Where did all that originate? People that were aspiring for more. I actually find it really funny because almost all of the instrumentation in a orchestra, you can look this up on Grok if you don't believe me, almost all of it come from the European people.

Ian MalcolmThey created that thing and you could look at the music, you could also look at the chapels in which that music is often played. That architecture, spectacular. The music, spectacular. The literature, spectacular. Why? Because it was inspired by something. Thank you so much for watching.

Ian MalcolmDavid Goggins

Ian MalcolmWell, here we are 2,000 years later talking about him. So obviously there was something that was there, right? There's actually the religion that many people, you could make the claim, that it's changed the world more so than any other human being on earth. And what is even that human if we actually think about it? Who was he?

Ian MalcolmAgain, we're going to go into all those things. But whether you're here for the religion, whether you're here for the history, right? Perhaps you're curious. How do we know if this guy existed? How do we know if he lived? How did we know if he walked the earth? I've actually got a space that I'll go back. I know JoAnn was there for it.

Ian MalcolmWe'll go back and grab that, right? How do we prove the existence of Christ? We actually did a space on that. And similarly, we also did one. How do we disprove the existence? Because again, I do value free speech. I'll listen to both sides of the argument. You guys get to decide what you believe in. I certainly do think that he existed.

Ian MalcolmI think the Shroud of Turin is one of the most interesting pieces of it. Is it possible that that was faked? I suppose, right? But we can also, You can also look at the fact that science doesn't know how, if it was faked, how it was made. That's perhaps the most incredible piece. We actually did a space on that very piece of kind of religious, what would you call it?

Ian MalcolmIt's a, I don't want to call it, it's not an icon, right? It's a religious relic, I suppose might be the right term, right? That thing, science has looked at it up, down, left, right, sideways. They don't know how that happened. One of the most interesting claims that I heard about it

Ian MalcolmBut we're going to have to, I suppose, be a little bit more specific with who we do and don't allow on a speaker panel, all those things. Isn't that a shame? When you value free speech, people just take advantage of it. I wonder if they're Jewish supremacists. They might be. But so, in all sincerity, back to the thing, right?

Ian MalcolmSo this idea, the Shroud of Turin, we've done those spaces on did Jesus exist? I believe with absolute certainty that he did. The world's been forever changed by it. But who was that man? There's lots of reasons that people ask that question. And one of the biggest questions that we find in these spaces around the JQ, well, was Jesus the king of the Jews because he was Jewish, right?

Ian MalcolmWhat did that mean at the time? What's the origin of the term? Where did it come from? Is it therefore based on where it came from applicable to that man? Was it applicable to the Pharisees that were suggesting, kill him, kill him, give us Barabbas, right? I always found it really curious that Barabbas, and this is another one.

Ian MalcolmYou won't believe this. Barabbas. Go look right now into what does Barabbas translate to? It's the son of the father. Now, isn't it curious that literally they gave the Pharisees and the Jews the choice. Who do you want to set free? Which of these people do you want to spare from certain death? Do you want Jesus, the son of God, or do you want Barabbas, the son of the father?

Ian MalcolmWhat father do you think that Barabbas was? Representing the guy, oh, by the way, who was the murderer, the rapist, all the other kind of things, right? Isn't that very curious? And those people, the Jews said, put his blood on us, on our children and their children and their children forevermore. That's the religion. It's kind of uncomfortable.

Ian MalcolmMight also explain why there's a certain group of people that hate the idea of Jesus Christ. That's a whole different can of worms. But what we are going to be doing in this space again is unpacking what does that word mean? Where did it come from? What is its origin? And again, who would it be applicable to? Would it be the Pharisees?

Ian MalcolmIs it Christ? Is it the Jews that we speak of today? And if so, is it the Ashkenazi, the Sephardics, which of them is the Mizrahis, right? We probably won't go too much into that latter portion, but we will be asking, where does that word come from? And how did it weave this weird web where it is somehow applied? To the people that converted in the Kasdar Empire who were doing all these crazy things like sacrificing people and all the other strange rituals that we see, I guess, today from this very group of people that say it's a sacrament for their religion.

Ian MalcolmIt's part of the Jewish faith to abort children. It's like, what? Huh? So we will be trying to understand what are the origins of that term. And again, to draw a line between the people that would have been around Jesus, of Jesus himself, all the way up through today. So we'll be debating that. What I want to make clear, I mentioned debating, because we will have, we'll have a Q&A like we always do.

Ian MalcolmAnd yes. Thank you so much.

Ian MalcolmIf you're obnoxious, if you're rude, if you're any of those things, that applies while Mandy is going and for the inevitable debate that will follow. If you're impolite, you are going to get removed. If you are obnoxious and harassing people, you are going to get removed. We are going to have a high IQ conversation about these items.

Ian MalcolmIf that doesn't sound like it's up your alley, there's lots of other spaces on X where people sit around and they go ooga booga booga. Go over there. You're welcome to. In this room, we will do as we always do. We will honor free speech. We will search for the truth, and we will try to respect one another, unless you're a liar and a gaslighter and you shill for literal pedophile rings, in which case I will still try to be respectful.

Ian MalcolmI will just probably embarrass you in the process. So with that being said, we will turn things over first and foremost, of course, to our unbelievable co-host, who I could not do any of this without, Ms. JoAnn. But before I do even that, as a real quick addition, I don't say this enough. I always try to say it at least two or three times per space.

Ian MalcolmI should frankly say it 20 or 30 times. Allegedly Dank is not just allegedly a hero. He is an absolute hero on this platform. Not only is he taking all of these spaces as we've talked about and moving them on to Apple Podcasts, Rumble, Spotify, and a website he made from scratch, IanMalcolm84.com. Not only is he doing that,

Ian MalcolmNot only is he running the Malcolm Spaces handle that's creating AI videos from all of our spaces that we can share, we can send around. They're trying to be short little viral types of clips. And it includes, of course, the link to the space where that was played. Way to try and just grab some additional eyes from this very, very busy ecosystem that we all live in.

Ian MalcolmNot only is he doing that, not only is he making the AI bot. that he's continuing to refine to work on. It's a very, very complicated thing he's trying to put together because he's trying to free essentially AI from the guardrails that Grok and all these other ones have. But he has also, he took the space that we did on 9-11 with Truth Teller who gave a two and a half hour unbelievable monologue on everything that happened on 9-11.

Ian MalcolmTruth talked about every aspect. He talked about things that I had never even heard of. Frankly, he went into the elevators, for example. He went through the contracts when they switched over. The really strange fact that it was basically one of their only customers. And then that was shortly after the crash of 9-11. Of course, that elevator company just goes out of business.

Ian MalcolmVery strange additional layers of that story I'd never heard. I mention it because allegedly Dank took it. He turned it into an hour-long, AI-driven documentary. And frankly, it looks darn near... Professionals. It is unbelievable. It doesn't just have the clips from all of the audio that Truth played during that space.

Ian MalcolmIt's got additional visuals. It's got references. It's got a walkthrough of the twin towers, right? The footage is so compelling and you hear it along with not just Truth Teller, but there's folks like Dr. Strange that are on there, right? Some of the best hitting elements of that two and a half hour monologue in an hour.

Ian MalcolmShare that with anybody and everybody. I think it's already got something like 50 plus thousand views. CoCo I Deserved

Ian Malcolmfor Dr. Rechtenwald, for so many other people. He's offered his time and his expertise for so many different purposes. So I just couldn't give enough love and appreciation to him. But JoAnn, why don't we go to you really quickly, my friend, and then we will go to our guest speaker here.

@joann_marieHi, and thank you so much for hosting and everybody for being here. And I just posted the documentary that Dan made and he's absolutely amazing. And I watched it this morning. Dan, you're seriously brilliant. So thank you so much for everything you're doing. And guys, please repost this space. And if you guys go to it, I will also repost it and bookmark it.

@joann_marieIt helps so much with the algorithm. And Mandy, very excited for this space. And yeah, I think it's going to get a little bit spicy at the end. So no, it's going to be awesome. And Yeah, I cannot wait to learn more about it. So thank you so much for being here. Ian, would you like to go straight up to Mandy?

Ian MalcolmWe'll go right to Mandy. One last little thing. I don't know why. I just wanted to apologize for anybody that tried to click on the original link. I opened the thing up. It went to a black screen. I had to restart the app and then it wouldn't let me launch that space that we previously had aligned for this. I don't... I don't know if it's because I was in Godfrey shortly before this or whatever that was.

Ian MalcolmBut I just want to apologize if anybody had difficulty finding the space. But as a result, please share it out. And if anybody that you know that was trying to come in here maybe is a little bit less tech literate, feel free to send them the link to this one because the other one is just going to take them to a dead end.

Ian MalcolmSo again, I just want to apologize. But I am very excited. Mandy, you've been such a wonderful voice in this cause. For anybody that's not familiar, Mandy had one of the Most viral posts revolving around the JQ about two or three weeks ago. I think it was like 15 to 20 million impressions. And so I say that just because she's been having a splash because she's a wonderful, wonderful creator and provider for, let's say, truth on these subjects.

Ian MalcolmSo Mandy, without further ado, do you want to give a little bit of an introduction to yourself and then the subject?

@mandyarthurOh, no, I don't. There's nothing really special about me. I'm just a child of Christ. And there are some important truths that I would like, I actually didn't even want to be the person to have to say them, but it is important. And I think we all have to speak the truth when we find it. So that is my task here. I'm going to open with a quote.

@mandyarthurAnd this quote is not from the Bible. It's actually... I was an atheist for 30 years of my life. Even as a kid, I was an atheist. And I loved Nietzsche, the philosopher. And if the only reason that I read Nietzsche was to find this one quote in his book, it would have been worth it. And I've read all of Nietzsche's books.

@mandyarthurThis quote goes, by the way, it's by Henri de la Tour de Vent de Turenne, the Comte. That is probably mispronounced, but I did try. It's a French general from 1660. The quote is, you tremble, carcass? You would tremble a lot more if you knew where I was taking you. Sometimes during battle, he could not help trembling. Then he talked to his body as one talks to a servant.

@mandyarthurWhen I first read that quote, I didn't read the footnote. And so I didn't know he was talking to himself. And I was like, man, this guy's cruel. But later when I found out what he was talking about, I totally identified with that. And I think I've got that same spirit. I'm not a believer in reincarnation, but I can definitely appreciate that feeling because I tend to bite off more than I can chew.

@mandyarthurAnd I was actually feeling that way as this space approached because I am, you know, like I said, An atheist for 30 years, and I'm thinking to myself, do I really know enough about this? Am I studied enough? I'm also a perfectionist, so I'm like, you know, I've got to make sure every hole is covered. And my dad went to the hospital, so I was thinking, maybe I'll just cancel this.

@mandyarthurAnd every time I got that thought, which was twice, God very, very quickly and forcefully said no. And so I don't know what... Thank you so much for having me.

@mandyarthurAfter what I am able to get through, I would ask that you judge the veracity and the power of my words and the words spoken here today by the viciousness of the vipers who attack it, because there will be plenty. Think to yourself about how they attacked Jesus when he spoke the truth. How much the truth is a danger to those people, to the children of hell.

@mandyarthurand really think on that. And then I would ask that you investigate these things yourself. I've left several breadcrumbs. In fact, I've titled some of these sections breadcrumbs. And that's just so you can pull at the thread and keep an open mind and look into it yourself. I'm not saying that any of this is settled, that any of it that I say is gospel.

@mandyarthurObviously, if I'm reading the word of God, I think it is gospel. But you don't have to take my opinion for it. You should make your own opinion. Do your own research. Don't just listen to whoever's at the pulpit or whoever's trying to indoctrinate you with some Zionist garbage. Okay, we can get into it. I am here to break a spell.

@mandyarthurChristian Zionism brainwashed a lot of people into believing that backing a state founded in 1948 by the Rothschilds is the same as following Christ and even commanded by God. They call it Judeo-Christian values. They say Jesus was a Jew, so you owe the people who now own that word, and you owe the state that speaks in that name.

@mandyarthurNever mind that they mock your savior, genocide actual Semites, and perhaps may have no actual Semitic lineage themselves. We'll touch on that later. We have become so brainwashed and captured by this spell that some who call themselves Christians continue to support sending a blank check to the same sect who killed Jesus.

@mandyarthurMy purpose in this talk is to cut the false Judeo-Christian thread permanently. I will not spend the time belaboring bloodlines in genealogy. And by the way, a lot of people are going to try and do that. I don't believe that argument is without merit, but I hold that the spell is in the words. So I'll name where the leaders of the current state of Israel came from and an alternative theory about Jesus's lineage.

@mandyarthurI welcome you to pull at those threads, but I will stop there, at least for now. In my mind, Jesus already settled the deeper fight. John the Baptist also said it.

@mandyarthurRomans 9.6 True children of Abraham, in Jesus' mouth and in the apostles' mouths, is faith and fruit. The point of this talk is one sentence. Jesus was not a Jew. Today, Jew means the rabbinic people and the rabbinic religion. 99% of people called Jews today are rabbinic. Pharisee heirs, Mishnah, Talmud, synagogue as a center.

@mandyarthurJesus was not that. Jesus was a Nazarene from Galilee. Jesus fought the Pharisees. Jesus Prophesied the Temple's Fall. The books that now define Judaism were written hundreds of years after Jesus was dead in his earthly form, a fact Christian Zionism needs you to ignore. Here's the language spell. Language is important, and it's my belief that this is the crux of the spell.

@mandyarthurSo let me spend a few minutes breaking those ties. Your Bible in English often prints the word Jew. Do you wonder what it said before that? That word was not in Jesus's mouth. It is a later misleading translation. For the purpose of this talk, I'm going to use the words that were actually in the text, not in the later English swap.

@mandyarthurYou've probably never heard these words before, which is actually a commentary on the sad state of Christianity in America and around the world. Translators took older words and put Jew in their place. That conditions you to hear today's meaning when you read first century sentence. It's misleading and subversive, so I will define the words that were really there.

@mandyarthurThe two words translated to Jew in the modern Bibles are as follows. By the way, guys, this is probably the most important part of the talk. Every single time you hear the word Jew, please, for the love of God, literally, remember these words because it's a trick. Yehudi is the first word. That's Hebrew. The meaning is a person of Judah.

@mandyarthurWell, which kind of Judah? That depends on the sentence. It's not all of these at once. It could mean someone from the tribe of Judah, one of the 12 tribes of Israelites. It can mean someone from the land of Judah, a physical place. Later, it can mean someone from that Judah-centered people and their customs. Abraham is not a Yehudi.

@mandyarthurIsaac is not. Moses was not. The name comes from Judah. By the way, I'll mention another piece of scripture here. This is not in my article. In John 8, 58, Jesus says, truly, truly, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am. Wow, well, that's interesting. So Abraham is not a Yehudi. Isaac is not a Yehudi. The name comes from Judah, which comes after that.

@mandyarthurAnd Jesus says, before Abraham was, I am. Wow, that's interesting. Then, Eudaios, that's Greek. This is the word in the New Testament. Same root idea, a person of Judah or of Judea. Once again, the exact meaning depends on the sentence. In John 4, it is a place, someone from Judea, not Samaria, two physical areas that oppose each other.

@mandyarthurIt can be people, one of that people even living somewhere else. It can be custom, someone who keeps that people's ancestral law, not the Talmud because the Talmud is not even written yet. In John, it can also mean leaders in Jerusalem, not every person of Judah. Rome's Latin, Eudaeus, works the same way, a label for a population.

@mandyarthurReally, it's anyone of the Abrahamic faith. Here's what those words don't mean. They do not mean a citizen of a state founded in 1948. They do not mean a follower of the Talmud. They do not mean Jew the way you hear the word in the church or the news today. When I'm talking about Jesus' century, I will say Yehudi, Yudaios, Person of Judah, or Person of Judea.

@mandyarthurI will say Jew only when I mean the word, as people use it now. That later word is what they hang over Jesus. That is a swap I am refusing, and I hope by the end of this you do as well. Jesus never called himself a Jew. Perhaps even more important is that even the vague, loose words like Yehudi or Yudaios were translated as Jew.

@mandyarthurJesus never claims either of those either. Jesus never says, I am a Yehudi. Jesus never says, I am Udayos. Here is the way the word actually was used and who used it. By the way, it was only people who told him or said something about it. So here's the first one. How is it that thou, being a Udayos, askest drink of me, for the Udayi have no dealings with the Samaritans?

@mandyarthurThis is a John 4, 9. That is Judea versus Samaria. Two regions that refuse each other. So it's two regions in opposition to each other. It's not the later English word Jew. In fact, it's laughable that it got translated that way. Pilate uses the same Greek word. Am I Udayos? Thine own nation and the priests have delivered thee unto me.

@mandyarthurPilate is saying, I am not one of your people. Your own leaders brought you here. Why is this on my desk? This is not Jesus calling himself what we mean by Jew. In fact, aren't they the ones that put King of the Udayi above his head as a way to mock him? Paul calls himself a Udayist and a Pharisee, but Paul is not Jesus.

@mandyarthurThe Book of Acts names Jesus' people another way. For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes. Nazarene, that is the name of his movement, not the later English word Jew. Jesus never says, I am a Jew. He never says, I'm Udias. Other people use that Greek word about him. The Samaritan woman, Pilate, the sign above the cross.

@mandyarthurThat is all from their mouth, not his. Nazarene or of Nazareth was Jesus' choice. He is named that way all the time. Jesus of Nazareth. Matthew says he would be called a Nazarene. That was in Matthew 2.23. Acts calls his movement, quote, the sect of the Nazarenes. Acts 24.5, not the sect of the Pharisees. In fact, after the resurrection, Jesus literally says to Paul, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest.

@mandyarthurThat's Acts 22.8. So what does Jew mean now? Is it a religion? Then why are so many people counted as Jews, not religious? Is it a culture? Persian, Ashkenazi, Ethiopian, and Iraqi people do not share one culture. Is it a race? No. Is it blood from Judah? Not if you can convert. The old lists in scripture run father to son.

@mandyarthurThe rule that the mother makes the Jew is rabbinic. It comes later. If you mean a person of Judah, say Yehudi, or person of Judah. If you mean all 12 tribes, say Israelite. Those are not the same thing. When a pastor says Jesus was a Jew, people do not hear Udayas in the year 30. They hear the people and the religion that use the word Jew now.

@mandyarthurThat religion is rabbinic Judaism. Synagogue, rabbi, written Torah plus oral Torah, Mishnah, Talmud. The religion began by the very sect, the Pharisees, who called for Jesus' arrest and crucifixion. Who he opposed his entire life, by the way. In Jesus' time, the people of that land were not one group. Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenes, Zealots, Samaritans, Nazarenes.

@mandyarthurJesus is a Nazarene. His followers are called Nazarenes. The stream is now called Christian. The Pharisee stream is now called Jew. One group says Jesus is the Christ. The other group says he's burning in hell in excrement. We already have two names for that split. Calling both Jew hides the split. In fact, that's probably the exact reason why they do it.

@mandyarthurIf you stretch Jew to cover the Nazarenes, You have also stretched it to cover many who have never joined the Pharisees. If you keep the meaning used today, Jesus is not in that group. You can't have both. Now I'll cover some of the usual rebuttals. Some say Jesus was a Jew because Matthew and Luke list a family line through Joseph.

@mandyarthurIf you believe the virgin birth, Joseph is the legal father, not the birth father. There is no labeled family tree for Mary. Some people guess she was a Levite. That may be true. Christians answer with legal son through Joseph and or David's blood through Mary, plus born in Bethlehem. Some say, well, Jesus was a rabbi though, but rabbi meant teacher then.

@mandyarthurNow it means an official of rabbinic Judaism. Then synagogue meant a meeting place to hear scripture. Now it is the main house of religion built after the temple fell, a religion Jesus never belonged to. Teaching scripture in a gathering place does not make Jesus a Pharisee or Rabbinic Jew. But Jesus read the law and the prophets.

@mandyarthurWell, Christian churches today that keep Genesis through Deuteronomy do that too. People use the sign on the cross as proof. It is not. The board said in Latin, Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Udai. In John, the same idea is written with the Greek word Udai. That is Rome's charge sheet. It is a mockery. Same as the crown of thorns.

@mandyarthurRome is not giving Jesus a religious title. Rome is hanging a joke over his head. In fact, John says that the chief rabbinic priests hated the wording. They told Pilate, do not write king of the Udai. They did not want him named as their king. That's in John 19, 21. So the song is not Jesus joining them. The name he is known by is Jesus of Nazareth.

@mandyarthurThe next excuse, Jesus kept their religion because he taught and ate with them. No. Jesus put his own word above theirs. He said, Ye have heard it said by them of old time, but I say unto you. You have heard it said, but I say. That is a new center of authority. The last meal makes the same split. People call it Passover.

@mandyarthurIn Christian teaching, Jesus changes the bread and the cup into his body and blood. That is not their right, it is his. And he took bread, and gave thanks, and break it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body, which is given for you. This do in remembrance of me. Luke 22, 19 Last excuse. The twelve were Jews, so Jesus was too.

@mandyarthurThe twelve were from Galilee. Galilee is not Judah. If the claim means tribe of Judah, most of them do not fit. If the claim means the Pharisee religion, they are Nazarenes. People in his own century used Galilee as an insult. This is interesting. They treated it as a wrong place for a Messiah. Shall Christ come out of Galilee?

@mandyarthurJohn 7, 41. Search and look, for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet. John 7, 52. So in the first instance, it is said by a crowd in Judah's capital, saying the Messiah is not supposed to come from the north. In the second, the Pharisees shut Nicodemus down with the same slight. What Jesus said to the founders of Judaism, the Pharisees.

@mandyarthurThis is my favorite part. This people honoreth me with their lips, but with their heart is far from me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men, for laying aside the commandment of God ye hold the tradition of men. Mark 7, 6. Full well ye reject the commandment of God that ye may keep your own tradition. Mark 7, 9.

@mandyarthurQuote, making the word of God of none effect through your tradition. Mark 7, 13. Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Matthew 16, 6 Jesus meant their teaching. The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat, but do not ye after their works, for they say and do not. Matthew 23, 2 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men.

@mandyarthurMatthew 23, 13 Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Matthew 23, 15 This is aimed at those teachers and the convert they shaped. It is not a label for every person of Judah. It is also not Jesus joining them.

@mandyarthurYe pay tithes of mint and anise and cumin. and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith. Ye are like unto whitewashed sepulchers. Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees shall ye in no case enter the kingdom of heaven.

@mandyarthurOkay, this is the split. Jew today means the side Jesus split from. So, how did Rabbinic Judaism get its start? The temple falls and their books come later. Jesus said the temple would fall. There shall not be here left one stone upon another that shall not be thrown down. Matthew 24.2 When ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

@mandyarthurLuke 21.20 In the year 70, the Romans burned the temple and tore the buildings down, just as Jesus prophesied. Jesus said it would fall, and it fell. The altar was gone, so the religion could no longer be structured around the temple. The Pharisees set out to redefine it. They gave their religious leaders more power and came up with new religious books.

@mandyarthurThe Mishnah is written around the year 200. The Talmuds come later. Those books are the core of the religion that more than 99% of people called Jews belong to now. Jesus rejected their tradition. Jesus said the temple would fall. The temple fell. Their sect survived. They wrote new religious books. That religion is what people mean by Judaism now.

@mandyarthurJesus died before those books existed. Jesus spent his public life against the authority that produced them. Calling Jesus a Jew in today's meaning puts Jesus in the exact sect. Okay, this is a really interesting one. Blessing Israel and who they are now. Now I will cover the founders of the modern state of Israel and where they came from, because churches are told Jesus was a Jew in order to specifically bless that state.

@mandyarthurThis is fascinating. Netanyahu's father, the historian Benzoin Mielkowski, was born in Warsaw, Poland in 1910. The family reached British Palestine in 1920 and changed the name, literally Hebrewized it, this is an actual term, to Netanyahu. His mother, Zila Segal, was born in Petkativa. Her family came through Lithuania and America.

@mandyarthurIsrael's first prime minister, David Ben-Gurion, was born David Grun in Poland. Prime minister Golda Meir was born in Kiev. Prime minister and later president, Shimon Peres, was born in what is now Belarus. Theodor Herzl, the founder of modern political Zionism, was born in Pest, Hungary. General Moshe Dayan, later defense minister, was born on a colony in Palestine, but his parents came from Ukraine.

@mandyarthurSo basically, the founders and leaders of the modern state of Israel came from Kiev, Warsaw, Budapest, Bucharest, Berlin, Moscow. The men who built the state came from Europe or were the children of people who came from Europe. Britain moved that project. from the late 1800s through 1948. Rothschild money funded much of it.

@mandyarthurThat is on record. Some allege the Rothschilds also paid Schofield to change how churches read the New Testament. What is certain is that Schofield's notes taught churches to treat a modern country as a biblical promise. That is how you get preachers like Huckabee saying Jesus was a Jew, so the state is family. The land was not empty.

@mandyarthurPalestinian Muslims were there. Palestinian Christians were there. Old Yehudi towns were there, Jerusalem, Hebron, Safed, Tiberias. The new project pushed people out and killed people. I should remind you, quote, thou shall not murder, Matthew 19, 18. Regarding the founders of Israel, there is even deeper theory tying them to Khazarians.

@mandyarthurIt says the Ashkenazi leadership that built the state, men from Warsaw, Kiev, Pest, and the rest of that European map, did not come down from the ancient Judah. It says they came from the Khazars, a Turkic people north of the Caucasus whose rulers converted to Judaism in the Middle Ages. Medieval writers report that conversion.

@mandyarthurKhazaria then falls. Large Jewish populations later show up in Eastern Europe. Kosslers, the 13th tribe, ties those people, those steps together, and some genetic papers claim a Caucasus rather than a Judahite origin. If that theory is correct, the founders are converts from a dead Steppe kingdom, not a returned tribe of Judah.

@mandyarthurOkay, two hooks in Christians today. Christian Zionism does not stop at Jesus was a Jew. That sentence is how they get the rest past you. Two claims hang on it. If you only argue about the word, you miss what the word is being used for, getting churches to support a modern state and stay quiet about what that state does.

@mandyarthurFirst, they'll claim, this is how you bring Jesus back. A lot of churches believe that if the Jews, quote unquote, are gathered into that land, the Messiah will return. So supporting the state feels like obedience. The war feels necessary. The people being pushed off the land get treated as a delay in the plan. But that is not the gospel.

@mandyarthurThe promise to Abraham is not a deed for a state founded in 1948. Paul says Abraham's seed is Christ and those who belong to Christ. Quote, Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made, which is Christ, Galatians 3.16. And if ye be Christ, then are ye Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise, Galatians 3.29.

@mandyarthurGenesis said the families of the earth would be blessed in Abraham. That blessing is Jesus, not the Pharisees, not a government built by man from Europe. Christian Zionism still waves Ezekiel and Isaiah as a work order for 1948. But those lines are not open land contract for modern group. In Christ, the promise is fulfilled.

@mandyarthurThe nations are gathered to Jesus, not a flag. I'll remind you again of what I said in the beginning, which is one of my favorite quotes. They are not all Israel, which are of Israel.

@mandyarthurSecond claim, you owe them because Jesus was one of them. The line is Jesus was a Jew, so you owe the people and this state. This was popularized after the Holocaust, of course. Then it was used for money and for policy, of course. Your Lord was a Jew, therefore the state is family. Therefore you do not set a limit on aid, you do not ask questions, therefore you do not look very hard into who is already on the land, therefore you keep quiet.

@mandyarthurBut that only works if Jew in Jesus' time already means what Jew as people use it today means. It does not, as I've already proven. Christian Zionism uses the word two ways in the same sermon. When they talk about Jesus, they use it wide. Jesus belongs to, quote, the Jews, so you must not separate Jesus from the modern project.

@mandyarthurWhen they talk about the land, they use it narrow. Only the modern rabbinic people own the claim. Everyone else can be pushed aside. Those two uses cannot both be true. If Udayos means every Israelite, which is the 12 tribes, then the claim is not exclusive. Palestinian Christians already on the land are part of that old story and part of that group.

@mandyarthurPalestinian Muslims already on the land are part of that same story of tribes that scattered and took other names. The old Yehudi towns were already there. Jerusalem, Hebron, Sephed, Tiberias. People coming from Kiev and Warsaw do not cancel that because a pastor said Jesus was a Jew. If the word is wide, the land is not theirs alone.

@mandyarthurIf Jew means what it means today, that is rabbinic, the Pharisee line, then Jesus is not in that group. Jesus died before their books were written. Jesus spent his public life against their authority that produced those books. Calling Jesus a Jew in that sense is not accuracy. It's just how they get churches on board. They need both meanings at once, wide for Jesus, narrow for the land.

@mandyarthurThat is the slogan and that's how they sell it. A few interesting breadcrumbs. These are not things that I am going to present as fact, but they are interesting and you might want to look into them. I actually, if you read my article about this, they can probably put it in the purple pill. It has a link to the book if you want to learn more about it.

@mandyarthurSo I will not spend an hour on bloodlines, but I will present two ideas that you may want to look into. Call them breadcrumbs. First, in 1936, Jacob Elon Conner published Christ Was Not a Jew. His theory was that Assyria smashed the North Kingdom in the 700s before Christ and deported Israelites. The North, including Galilee, was filled with other people.

@mandyarthurThe Bible calls it Galilee of the Nations, quote, the land of Zebulon and the land of, I'm not going to get that right, but you can read it in the article, the way of the sea beyond Jordan, Galilee of the Gentiles. That is Matthew 4.15, if you want to check it out. In the 100s before Christ, the Maccabees tried to force that mixed North into their state.

@mandyarthurConnor says they failed. He says Nazareth sat in the Gentile country and Jesus who was raised there was a Gentile. Connor's word is Aryan, not Judah's stock. I am not here to prove if he is right, but if you want to read more, there's a link to the book in the article. Second, there's also a claim that I touched on above.

@mandyarthurYou can look into it yourself that European Ashkenazi leaders have no Semitic blood and come from Khazars who converted a thousand years ago. So if the whole argument is our blood beats yours, that is the argument that Jesus rejected in John 8. Quote, if you were Abraham's children, you would do the works of Abraham. In the old story, 10 tribes are lost as named nations.

@mandyarthurThey scatter, they mix, they take new names. They do not vanish off the earth. They stop being called Judah. The promise to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob called Israel is not dead, is not a deed that belongs only to the Pharisees. The Pharisees are one group. Judah is one tribe. If Udayos means every Israelite, it cannot belong to one modern group.

@mandyarthurIf Jew means the rabbinic people now, Jesus is not in that group. True children of Abraham are a matter of faith. That is Jesus' teaching. That is why I will not go too much deeper into genealogy, though I welcome anybody who wants to look into it. Know ye, therefore, that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.

@mandyarthurGalatians 3-7. Christianity is the claim that Jesus is the Son of God and that his death and rising are the way back to the Father. That baptism and the bread are part of that road. Jesus taught that. That is not the Pharisees' religion. Today, Jew means the Pharisee rabbinic Talmudic faith, the faith that says Jesus, Yeshu, is boiling in excrement in hell.

@mandyarthurThe page says, Udias, the older name is Yehudi. Jesus was not a Pharisee. Jesus was not a Talmud Jew. Jesus did not belong to the religion that more than 99% of Jews stand in now. In that meaning used today, Jesus was not a Jew. Jesus was a Nazarene. That stream is called Christian now. People today may call themselves Jews.

@mandyarthurThat is their name. You may not take the later English word, put it on Jesus, and tell a church that the modern state is his family. Keep those words apart. Judah, Israel, Pharisee, Nazarene, Yehudi, Jehios, When you keep them apart, the spell, Jesus was a Jew, dies. Jesus was not a Jew. Stop saying he was. And that's it.

Ian MalcolmHaving Little Pieces

Ian MalcolmAll of the citations are going to be there available for anybody to look through. And so this isn't some haphazard. Mandy overheard this idea. She went in. She really put a lot of time into this. And so I want to give her an immense amount of thanks for doing that and for presenting this idea. Like I said, we'll definitely kind of open things up.

Ian MalcolmWe'll go around. If people have questions, comments, they will certainly be free to share those. And what I will do is I'll also just recommend for any individuals, if you're If you struggle in social settings, if you're white, I might call antisocial. Maybe just avoid clicking the emoji buttons and all these other things and spamming the purple pill and freaking out when you go into conversations with adults.

Ian MalcolmIt kind of makes you just look like an erratic child. Like I said, we will bring anybody and everybody up, even the Spurgs of the world. But I do hope we're able to get some... Professional, Mature, Adult Rebuttals. That's how we try to handle these conversations and free from any of the petulance. But with that being said, why don't we first and foremost go to our co-hosts?

Ian MalcolmWe'll go to JoAnn and to Veritas, get some of their thoughts on some of the things that Mandy suggested. And then what we'll do, we will, in an attempt to be as fair as we can, we'll go to some familiar faces and we'll start with the one and only Dr. Rechtenwald. And then we will go to some of those that I've never seen before, including Eseric Media.

Ian MalcolmBut why don't we first, like I said, go to JoAnn and Veritas.

@joann_marieThank you so much, JoAnn and Mandy. You did so, so, so, so wonderful. And I'm going to read the article again. Beautifully said. And no, thank you so much. And this is such a great space. So thank you so much for being here. Veritas, go for it.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, thank you. First and foremost, I have slight additions to what you said.

@natnewsnetworkFirst and foremost, you mentioned the trial, right? If Jesus was a Jew, just legally speaking, the Pharisees would have tried him with a court of Sanhedrin, right? They wouldn't have gone to the Roman rulers and asked them to trial him, but done it themselves, right? Because that is the tradition of the elders. The second thing, you meant King of the Jews.

@mandyarthurThey didn't accept that he was a son of God. So they would have accepted the bloodline through the father, Joseph. So they would have said that that was his father. So I'm not making an argument either way. I have really no opinion on it. That was just something that I was presenting. But that is possibly why.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, I'm not criticizing you or trying to refute anything you said. That was just an addition. Just the legal circumstances under which the Sanhedrin would have tried him if he was legally speaking a Jew and they accepted them as one of theirs, right? The other thing, the term King of the Jew, the first time that this

@natnewsnetworkThe term was used was for Herod, who was labeled the king of the Jews, who was appointed by the Roman Senate as a client kingdom, who was himself not a Jew, not a Judean, but an Edomite.

@natnewsnetworkSlight criticism here. If you quote Nietzsche, Nietzsche is really not a good... Good source for anything Christian, because he despised Christianity. He was taught by Baruch Spinoza, who was basically the founder of secular Judaism. He was later...

@mandyarthurI didn't quote Nietzsche, actually, at all. I just quoted Henri de la Tourne d'Avour de Turenne, who is a French general. I found the quote in his book, is what I would say.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, please don't take anything what I say personal. That is not criticism of you. That's just a general statement.

@joann_marieBut she still didn't quote each other.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, yeah. Generally speaking, when you quote Nietzsche, keep in mind Nietzsche was anti-Christian. He was taught by Jews. He was later labeled as the most spiritually Jewish heathen in European history by Kudnow Kalergi, our good friend and founder of the Pan-European Union. Let's go to some hands. I think I rambled a little off here.

Ian MalcolmWell, no, and really quickly, one thing I would like to just add in there. So we have Veritas up here with us, certainly a very learned man on some of these subjects. And I just want to highlight that he certainly... applauded and added to on the pro side for Mandy's, let's say, point of view, and then also provided something that he thought might be an area to reflect on, right, on the other side of the equation.

Ian MalcolmSo I just want to have that up there as a man of perhaps Veritas can be a little bit of the scales here as he values kind of everybody's arguments. And like I said, we'll try to ensure that we have a mixed, let's say, set of perspectives and that we're allowing everybody to have their views in here.

@natnewsnetworkBasically, Ian asked me to back you up today, Mandy. I think you have the moderate stance. I'm coming from more of a Christian identitarian stance, so I have a more, one might say, extremist view on the whole biblical accounts. But yeah, I try to... Protect you from the pagans that will be coming for you shortly.

@mandyarthurWe're going to be putting on the full armor of God here.

Ian MalcolmAnd so we'll try to be as neutral as we can up here. And with that being said, why don't we go to Dr. Rechtenwald. And then, like I said, we will go to, I think it's Esaric Media. I hope I got that right.

@rectheregimeHey, everybody. Nice to see you, Ian, JoAnn. Mandy, great presentation. Hey, Raed, nice to see you. Godfroyd as well. And of course, CLG News, Lori. I love the way you began this by referring to, you know, when John the Baptist said to these people, he said, don't say you're Abraham, Abraham is your father, because I can make children of Abraham out of these rocks.

@rectheregimeI loved it because it demonstrates that this is not a chosenness by ethnicity. There is no such thing. There never was supposed to be ethnicity. It wasn't God's plan to choose by ethnicity. He was talking about faith. And that seed that they keep referring to is the seed of faith. That's what it's referred to. And the seed line goes straight to Jesus.

@rectheregimeThat's the lineage that we're talking about, and it's a seed of faith. It is not genetic. I don't believe that genetics are important in the whole narrative. Now, I wonder if you heard of this book, and I just started reading it. It's perfect for this topic because... is called Judaizing Jesus, How the New Testament Scholars Created the Ecumenical Golem.

@rectheregimeAnd the thesis of this book is that Jesus was Judaized early in the historicization of this figure, that they started to Judaize him. Added all these Jewish embellishments even to the text.

@mandyarthurWhat are they doing today with our textbooks? What is the same group doing today with our textbooks? I mean, literally, Ghislaine Maxwell's dad was in charge of our textbooks, and we don't think that they've changed things? Yeah.

@rectheregimeI mean, this goes to our very gospel now. We're talking about our very gospel. Because this guy's claiming, and I wonder if there's anything to it, and I don't believe everything I read. It's something to think about. He says that they started adding historical trappings. Early Christians Judaized Jesus by wrapping a celestial being in a non-Jewish language and narrative.

@rectheregimeSo that... The Disruptor, H1story Media, Psycho Mally, Proteus 5, 3 Witnesses

@rectheregimeChrist's story is a myth, and I don't. I think Christ was real, but I do leave open the possibility that he was Judaized later, and I'm not buying it 100%. I will look into it further, but it's an interesting question, whether the figure, and he says this became a consensus amongst historians roughly beginning in the 1940s.

@rectheregimeHow do you like that? of course you know it starts to become a consensus after the holocaust so even our understanding of christ becomes reframed and refigured through this particular interest if you will so anyway great presentation and i'm not going to stick around too much longer but i'd like to hear a few things and uh

@rectheregimeThanks again for doing this, Mandy. It was very good work, and I appreciate it very much, and I was looking forward to it. Thank you.

Ian MalcolmAbsolutely, and Mandy, it really was unbelievably well done.

Ian MalcolmDo what you can to give them some support, right? It doesn't have to be monetary or any of those kind of things, but just give some engagement, interaction, share it with people in your community. And let's try and just do what we can to stand in opposition to this insane subversion, which seems to mirror the subversion all the way, way back then in the time of Christ, same folks doing the same things.

Ian MalcolmAnd actually just, I put up a quote, this came from the PepeCoinMaxer, who put up a quote from Marcus Tullius that I really liked.

Ian MalcolmAnd with that being said, we will go to Eshrick Media. I hope I got that right.

@aesiric_mediaPretty close. Pretty close. Thank you for having me. And I'll just, I'll give a respectful retort to Mandy and what she talked about. Just open my notes here. I'm going to be referencing a few things. So if you have a notepad, just jot these Bible verses down. You can check me on the back end or if you want me to read them, I can certainly do so.

@aesiric_mediaAs to the Jewishness of Jesus, there's two ways to really go about this. Either religious Jews or ethnic Jews, right? And the Bible seems to indicate that he is both of them, right? And so what we're talking about is at the time there existed Second Temple Judaism, right? With the Second Temple. After the Temple, Judaism and Christianity went their separate ways.

@aesiric_mediaBut at one particular period in time, they were in the same religious system. So, let's go through the religious ones. Circumcised on the eighth day. That's Luke 2, 21. Jesus was presented to the temple in accordance with Mosaic law, and there were sacrifices of two doves offered. That's Luke 2, 22-24.

@aesiric_mediaJesus Celebrates Passover, Matthew 26, 17 Jesus Celebrates Hanukkah, John 10, 22-29 Jesus Worships Yahweh, Matthew 4, 10 Jesus' name, Yeshua, literally means Yahweh saves. He was regarded as a rabbi, multiple times, 88 times, but I won't reference 88 verses, though I can if you want. Matthew 26, 25 Matthew 26, 49

@aesiric_mediaMark 9-5, Mark 11-21, John 1-38, John 3-2. That means all four gospels, right? Reference him as a rabbi. Rabbis teach the Torah in synagogues, and Jesus also taught Torah in synagogues, reading from the Isaiah scrolls, Luke 4, 42 and 43, and Mark 6-2.

@aesiric_mediaBut let's talk about the ethnicity, right? It's one thing to be religiously Jewish, but let's say, was he ethnically Jewish? Well, two of the Gospels have entire genealogies of Jesus, one in Luke, one in Matthew, okay? And he's of the tribe of Judah, okay? And this is relayed in Revelation 5.5, Hebrews 7.14, Luke 3.33, and Matthew...

@mandyarthurWhat does it say in the Bible when Jesus says, I am a Jew, or I am Yehudah, or I am Udayos? Does he ever say that word?

@aesiric_mediaExcuse me, I never interrupted you, miss.

@mandyarthurI know, but I am. Does he ever say that?

Ian MalcolmWell, hang on. We'll try to do, just to keep it so that it's maybe easier to go back and forth, because I know this can get contentious. But Mandy, why don't we give him another two minutes or so, and then we'll allow a bullet-by-bullet rebuttal.

@aesiric_mediaSure. Yeah, I'm almost done. He's of the tribe of Judah, Revelation 5.5, Hebrews 7.4, Luke 3, verses 33, and Matthew 1, verses 1-3. The prophecy needs him to be ethnically Jewish in order to be the Messiah, to qualify. That's laid out in Isaiah 11, verses 1 and verse 10.

@aesiric_mediaGenesis 49 verse 10, Micah 5.2, Jeremiah 23.5. Galilee was Jewish post-Maccabean revolt. The whole point of the Maccabean revolt was to kick the Hellenizers and all of the non-Jews out of Jewish territory. But I'm just going to read just a few short snippets to clear my case. Hebrews 7, 14 says, for it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah.

@aesiric_mediaMatthew 1, 1, for the record of the genealogy of Jesus, the Messiah, the son of David, the son of Abraham, son of Judah. Revelation 5, 5, behold, the lion that is from the tribe of Judah, the root of David has overcome and so on. And one final thing, Jack Stone wanted to come up and Speak on this. And he asked Veritas to unblock him so that he can speak his piece.

@aesiric_mediaAnd with that, that's it.

@natnewsnetworkThank you. Thank you. Just to add on that, I won't unblock Jack Stone. He threatened me multiple times.

@g0dfr0yHe sounds like a show.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, he's a very, let's say it politely. He has no impulse control, right? And when he's threatening white people and say that they should face the wall or they would have faced the wall in Germany back then. Yeah, I kind of don't play with that, right? So maybe he can go on your CQ spaces. I think that's the better audience for him there.

Ian MalcolmWell, so I want to just say really quickly, as Strict Media, I appreciate the delivery. We'll certainly let Mandy or Veritas or anybody else that maybe wants to go back and forth on any of those. We will try and have as mature a conversation on these contentious topics as we can. But I think that was just very well delivered.

Ian MalcolmI don't know anything about this person that you're referring to. But I can say I'm not going to force any of the co-hosts if they have bad blood with any of these people to behave in any particular way. But why don't we go to Mandy? I know there was a number of statements and suggestions. One of the things that I feel like, and Mandy, I'm not trying to prime anything, but rather just, I noticed that there were talks there or mentions around...

Ian MalcolmI feel like you had previously disagreed just merely on the terminology of some of those that might be worth revisiting, but maybe I'm wrong on that.

@mandyarthurYeah, I mean, the whole point, it's like he probably just copy and pasted the entire article into ChatGPT and said, how can I argue with this? Because it's like he literally didn't even listen to the entire thing at all. The whole point of it... www.thedisruptor.com

@mandyarthurIsrael today that are calling themselves Jews, 99% of them are not even of Semitic blood, are not even of Judah. So if you make the argument that Jesus was, and you can't use the word Jew, that's the problem. You keep using the word Jew, which means that you're trying to cause chaos in this. You know that the word Jew...

@natnewsnetworkYeah, thank you, Mandy. So you mentioned the Maccabean Revolt, right? So after the Maccabean Revolt, the Hasmonean dynasty started. Under John Hyrcanus, the Judean society incorporated all of Edomia, right? The Edomites, quite literally the descendants of Esau into their

@natnewsnetworkYou mentioned Jesus was circumcised. Yeah, that was an ancient Hebrew practice, right? So Jesus was a Jew, right? He was an Israelite. Nobody denies that. You brought up Mosaic law. Of course, that was also ancient Hebrew tradition, right? Delivered by Moses. He was doing Passover customs. Absolutely. that was also ancient Hebrew crescents.

@natnewsnetworkHe didn't actually celebrate Hanukkah. He was going to Jerusalem during Hanukkah. Yahweh, as a title, directly refers to Jesus, right? When you look at the ancient Hebrew pictograms, Yod-Heh-Vav-Heh, which is an eye, a nail, a hand, and again an eye. that quite literally translate to Behold the Hand, Behold the Nail, Behold the Hand.

@natnewsnetworkYou mentioned Rabbi. Mandy touched on that earlier. It is a title, right? Like Sir or Lord. If you call someone Sir, Lord, Lancashire, does that mean that he is God because he's called Lord? No, that is a title, right? And that is, I think... at this point debated on and on and on and on. It seems to me like you have these meme collections that are handed out to neo-pagans.

@natnewsnetworkIt is always the same talking points, right? John 4, 22, Jesus was a Jew, right? We get these same talking points over and over and over, and I'm kind of tired. So, yeah, of course, he was teaching the Torah because the Torah is the ancient Abrahamic belief of the Hebrew people. That was what he was teaching. That was what he was believing in.

@natnewsnetworkThat also was the same religion of the Essenes, right? In contrast to the Sadducees and the Pharisees. The Pharisees and the Sadducees incorporated the teachings They call it the Oral Torah. Back then it was called the Traditions of the Elders. The Traditions of the Elders came from ancient Babylon, right during the Babylonian exile.

@natnewsnetworkSo you're conflating two different people and two different religions. Christianity does not come from Judaism. Christianity always was Christianity because the Old Testament in every single story, in every single parable, points to Jesus. Every single Old Testament story is fulfilled by Jesus in perfection. So Judaism is an abomination and a twisted teaching that came post-exilic period.

@aesiric_mediaCan I respond to that, Ian?

Ian MalcolmOh, of course. Yeah, go for it.

@aesiric_mediaSure.

Ian MalcolmAnd if nobody can interrupt or jump in while Estrick is going through his thoughts here, that'd be wonderful. And also just a... Because it can be distracting, not necessarily for me because I'm used to it, but for other people, let's try to minimize. If you want to throw up an emoji here or there, certainly feel free to, but let's just avoid the spamming them because it looks like an FBA space when people do.

Ian MalcolmNo, that's fair. That feels below us, but go for it.

@aesiric_mediaThat's fair. That's fair. So I'll be very brief because I know that there's a lot of hands and I don't want to take up all the time. But as far as the 12 tribes goes... 10 of those tribes were destroyed by Assyria, right? And so on.

@natnewsnetworkThose don't exist anymore. No, not destroyed. Wait, hang on.

Ian MalcolmLet's take notes so that... Yep, just take down notes and then when he finishes we can go back.

@aesiric_mediaOkay. So, if you know your biblical history, you know that according to the Bible, during the time of David, Solomon, that it was one unified... Then it's split in two, where you had 10 tribes in the north and technically three tribes in the south, right? Benjamin, Judah, and Levi, because the Levites were the priests of Yahweh, right?

@aesiric_mediaAnd the northern kingdom was completely destroyed, right? But that still leaves Judah as a tribe. That's where we get the term Jew from at shorthand. I can't believe that I have to state this, but yeah, it's a factual statement that the three letters J-E-W didn't exist in ancient times. But the Greek word for that, iudeos, and he did refer to himself as iudeos.

@aesiric_mediaAnd in fact, the New Testament commonly refers to him as iudeos. And again, I mentioned Revelation. Lion of Judah, Child of Judah. In fact, Luke and Matthew both have genealogies and Judah is mentioned in both times. Now, one of them goes through Joseph. You could discount that if you want, but the Mary one definitely is a descendant of Judah, has to be in order to fulfill the prophecy.

@aesiric_mediaIf he's not a Jew, he doesn't fulfill prophecy. So you kind of got yourself in a catch-22 there. But as far as the John 4, 22, I think that's abundantly obvious that he refers to himself as Ayudeos. As he says, salvation comes through or from the Jews. Right. In relation to the Samaritans. Right. In that verse. And I recommend you guys go to BibleHub.com.

@aesiric_mediaThere's a great feature there where you can look at the Strong's Concordance. You can look at the original Greek that this was written in. It says Ayodeos. You can look up the Strong's Concordance definition of that word, and it will tell you exactly what I'm telling you. Right. And as far as the Edomite stuff is concerned, right, let's say as a hypothetical Veritas, you're correct that Edomites in mass were...

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@aesiric_mediaThe Feast of Dedication

@aesiric_mediaWell, it's Hebrew in some cases and it's Jewish in other cases. And if we can't celebrate Hanukkah, we can't celebrate, we can't do the laws like prohibitions on eating pork because that's Jewish. And that's picking and choosing because first you say that's Hebrew, now you say it's Jewish. And lastly, I just want to...

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@aesiric_mediaThat European people worship a Middle Eastern man from a Middle Eastern religion. That's a little weird. And, you know, I just encourage people to think about that for a second. And these aren't just talking points. I mean, you could read the Bible yourself. I encourage you to do so. And you'll see it for yourself. And if you say, I don't want anything to do with Jewish stuff, well, one way to go all the way is to drop the Bible, in my opinion.

@aesiric_mediaand respectfully with that, I conclude and they can respond and we can move to other hands. Thank you for having me.

Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. And Estric Media, I just want to thank you. That was wonderful. And if everybody can be, let's say, in alignment with what we just saw, the back and forth with Mandy, with Veritas, with Estric, I think we can have ourselves a very productive conversation. And it's worth noting that the takeaways here are for all of you.

Ian MalcolmIf we're going to be intellectually honest about this, the odds that people are going to come into this conversation, come up onto this stage, and to suggest that... They're going to be moved by either side. It's probably somewhat unreasonable. Although I'm going to try and be as in the middle as I can, like the guy watching the tennis match looking left and right, right?

Ian MalcolmBut so I say it because I don't imagine that there will be a lot of individuals. Maybe they'll learn something new from one another. That's the ideal scenario for people that do want to come up and present a side, obviously. But this is mainly for the listeners, right? And feel free to take anything and everything that you do here.

Ian MalcolmGo run it through whatever filters you want. We'll try to be as intellectually open, honest, and respectful as we possibly can. And Esherick did a wonderful job with that. Please do not take this in any regard as a thing of disrespect as I move you down just because there's a lot of people that are looking to come up. But Esherick, if you do want to come up, certainly feel free.

Ian MalcolmJust re-request. Would certainly welcome that because that was just very, very, very well done. We will go to, I suppose, Buck at this point. He's got his hand up. as we bring up another individual. And what we will do, we'll go back and forth. I will just have to do kind of a guess and check. I'll try to bring people up from either side of this argument based on what I can see on their profile.

Ian MalcolmNo guarantees it'll be done perfectly, but I will also try to go to people I've never seen before like we're going to do here prospectively with Buck.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, before we go to Buck, I have to add something here because I think it is common practice Consensus among historians, contemporary writers of that time, and modern day scholars that the Edomians were incorporated into the Judean society. And yeah, I'm gonna quote Josephus, Flavius Josephus, right? He himself was a Jew, born in Jerusalem, lived in Rome, and he was one of the generals defeated by Rome.

@natnewsnetworkSo he stated, for there are three philosophical sects among the Judeans, the followers of the first, of whom are the Pharisees, of the second, the Sadducees, and the third sect, who pretends to severe discipline are called Essenes. These last are Judah by birth, and seem to have a greater affection for one another than the other sects have.

@natnewsnetworkJohn 8.33 states, they, the Pharisees, answered him, we are offspring of Abraham and have never been enslaved to anyone. How is it that you say you will become free? So, yes, they are offspring of Abraham, but through a different line, right? Not through the line of Israel, not of Jacob's line. because they have never been enslaved.

@natnewsnetworkThey are the Edomites. They come from a different line and that is confirmed by a first-hand witness, a Jewish witness, a professing Jew at that time, one of the greatest Jewish scholars and historians at that time. So if you want to claim that Christianity is Jewish. I can read you a couple of quotes from the Talmud and cross-reference it with the Christian Bible.

@natnewsnetworkAnd the Bible in these points, in these very, very important major points is in line with the Mosaic teachings, with the Abrahamic faith, while the Talmud completely negates that. It is a twisting of the scriptures. And again, you're assuming that the Jews at that time, the Pharisaic rabbinical Talmudic teachings, which became the Talmud at that time, it was just the oral law and the...

@natnewsnetworkand other hidden secret interpretations of their version of the Torah. It is just not sufficient to say that, right? Absolutely, I would say ridiculous to conflate those two. But Buck, please.

@joann_marieOh, and Mandy wants to say something. Sorry. Go for it, Mandy, and then we'll go to Buck.

@mandyarthurYeah, I just wanted to note a couple of things to people. When you're listening to somebody and they use a psychological trick called assumed agreement, which is where they end every sentence and even mid-sentence say, right, right, right, right. They're saying that so it feels like you're the one breaking the conversation and they get you to agree without even realizing it.

@mandyarthurThis is a subversive tactic and you should be aware that it's happening. Also, I wouldn't take any scripture or any The Disruptor, H1story Media, Psycho Mally,

@mandyarthurexplained how the word Jew is different now to tie in what Jesus was with who he opposed his entire life and very specifically in the Bible opposed them the very people that got him arrested and crucified is insanity and is exactly what you would expect of a child of hell and an antichrist there you go

@natnewsnetworkYeah, and in addition to that, he said, why are you professing a religion that comes from the Middle East, which is kind of ironic because I would say Freemasonry, Norse Paganism, Gnosticism, and Islam have more in common with Judaism than Christianity because they share the same Babylonian Mysticism, that is the core of this Gnostic dualistic belief system, this apocalyptic cult that came out of Babylon.

@natnewsnetworkSo to claim that... North paganism is our ancestral religion. It is just false, right? It is a pantheon taken from Canaanite and Egyptian gods. It is a mysticism that was taken over by the Muslims during the slave trades, which the Kievan Rus did, right? And then was brought into the European region. So none of that is really ancestral to us.

@mandyarthurYes, and I also, I wanted to mention that he's talking about how, you know, this, you know, Christianity and that is bad. And it's like Netanyahu is an atheist. If you look it up, he is not a practicing Jew. Trump is not a Christian. If we look at the people that are unleashing the Bolsheviks, right, they were famously atheist Jews.

@mandyarthurIf we look up the people who have done the worst things in the world, it is people who reject Christ. Wouldn't you be surprised that it's the Antichrist doing the bad stuff? I mean, it's like, it kind of says it in the name. I'm just saying.

@joann_marieThank you, Mandy. Vag, go for it.

@ishraelelectHey, thanks. How are you guys doing? Hopefully everybody's well. I recognize Veritas and I appreciate his stuff. I'm a follower of his. And some of the people in the listening crowd, I know, I guess, from the internet. But yeah, anyway, I was going to respond. Somebody was just up here speaking, talking about, they were saying that during the Assyrian exile, that the Israelite tribes, the 10 northern tribes, the bulk of them, rather than the kingdom of Judah, which is the tribe of Judah, Benjamin, and of course, Levi's dispersed throughout, right, not having their own land, that they made a claim and they said that those Israelite people just vanished.

@ishraelelectBut to say that, of course, is foolish because in the Bible, There's all the prophecies about, and respectfully, I guess, right? But whatever. You know, it's foolish because the Bible gives a number of prophecies. That's the whole point about what happens to these Israelite people, right? Christ tells them that he's got all these sheep that are not of this fold.

@ishraelelectSo all these Israelites that are not here are going to be gathered in. Now, he says that I came to fulfill the covenant. Think not that I came to abolish the law or change anything. Not one titter or talk shall pass in the law till all is fulfilled. And I come to fulfill a covenant between the fathers of the people that are Abraham through Isaac and Jacob, not through Esau who are Edomite Jews that Veritas mentioned about.

@ishraelelectBut anyway, that through these people is the covenant. That was what was made. And Paul is writing to those scattered and dispersed Israelites. And that's the entire point of... 80% of the New Testament, which he has written, right? He tells the Greeks, you know, he tells the Romans, he tells the Galatians, all that their fathers traced back to those Israelites in Egypt, that the rock that followed them was Christ, and that all their fathers were baptized in the Red Sea with Moses.

@ishraelelectSo if the Greeks and the Romans and their father was Abraham, he was the father of them all. And Paul says, I'm a Hebrew of Hebrews of the tribe of Benjamin and a Roman citizen. So here he is. Making a claim in every one of his letters, Brothers, I have not that you be ignorant to the fact that we're kinsmen according to the flesh, and that Christ came for the covenant that was pertaining to our fathers, again according to the flesh.

@ishraelelectSo, somebody are still Israelites now in John 10. Jesus Christ is speaking to the Jews in a mixed multitude there on Solomon's porch, and he says, You Jews are not my sheep, as I said unto you. So if the Jews are not his sheep, and he also gives, of course, Revelation 2, 9, and 3, 9, that there's a group of people that are claiming to be Jews, and they're not, but they do lie, right?

@ishraelelectAnd they're the synagogue of Satan, right? Not the church, but the synagogue of Satan here. And that's exactly what they are. So somebody are his sheep, right? And the Jews, people who are claiming to be his people and are not, they're lying, but that means somebody else is. So whoever it was that was up here, I forget who, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, but I believe it was somebody just a few speakers ago, saying that all these prophecies given to the Israelite people being brought back in, it says that the wild olive branch gets brought in with the cultivated olive branch because they're both of the same branch, right?

@ishraelelectAnd so Paul tells the Romans and the Greeks and the Galatians all these things, right? He tells the Galatians, so then brothers, we are like Isaac. Children of the Promise. Well, who is the promise given to? Abraham, Isaac through Jacob. So the Galatians are children of the promise through Isaac. Okay, and he says, And if you're Christ, then you're Abraham's physical sperm and heirs according to the promise.

@ishraelelectSo here you go. These Galatians are Abraham's sperm. Now he tells the Romans, What shall we say then that Abraham, our forefather, according to the flesh? What about the Corinthians, the Greeks in Corinth? For I do not want you to be ignorant, brothers. that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and were all baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, that manna that fell from heaven, of course, and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank from the same spiritual rock that followed them, and that rock was Jesus Christ, Yahweh Ari Yahshua.

@ishraelelectSo that's the whole point, right? And these people, they say, why do you think the book of Hebrews is written in the New Testament? Why does it say that in the book of Acts? That at Antioch, the Israelites, who in Isaiah were prophesied hundreds of years before the birth of Christ, that the Israelites were to take on a new name.

@ishraelelectThey wouldn't be called Israel anymore, and they would be named after the God who redeemed them. Well, in the New Testament, that happened at Antioch in the book of Acts, right there in 11th chapter, the 26th verse, that the people who believed in Jesus Christ were known as Christians, and they were never called Jews. So that's the entire point of the Bible.

@ishraelelectThat's why the book of Hebrews is in the New Testament. That's the whole point. You have a separate faction in 120 or 130 AD. King Hyrcanus conquered the land of Edom where the Edomites lived, the Idumeans in Greek, right? Idumea in Greek, Edom. That's where the enemies of the Bible are the whole time. The enemies of Israel, they fought wars against them, right?

@ishraelelectAnd so they're the enemy. They get conquered. It says that they were forced into circumcision. and they were forced to adopt Hebraic law or Yahwehism, right? Yahwehism, Hebrewism. And so they claim to have done so. They moved into the temple with the same antics they always have. They took over the banking. Jesus whooped them out of the temple and he tells them your father was Satan.

@ishraelelectNow, if Jesus was a Jew, does that mean that Adam was Satan or that God was Satan? Oh, and why does he tell them? And in the conversation he has in John 8, verses 30 to 47. The Disruptor, H1story Media, Psycho Mally, Proteus 5, 3 Witnesses

@ishraelelectWell, if they were Israelites, they would have been enslaved in Egypt in the Exodus with Moses, clearly. But it said it's these Greeks, these Romans, and the Galatians that were. The white man was, not the Jew. Hmm, interesting that, right? So that's curious. And they would have been, also, they would have been in bondage to the Assyrians.

@ishraelelectAnd those 10 tribes of Israel went across the Caucasus Mountains through the paths of Israel. Now go on Google, everybody can do it, and look up what the paths of Israel is. The Dorian Pass, The Dorian Gate, The Caucasian Mountain Pass. They passed in there, and they're the Sackay, the sons of Isaac, or the Bit Comrie, because in the Bible, the king of Israel there was the king named Omri.

@ishraelelectAnd Bit Omri means people of Omri, people of the king of Omri. So they moved in and they become your Celts, your Anglo-Saxons, Scandinavian, Germanic, and kindred Teutonic people. And those are the people who were reconciled in the New Testament. They're the Hebrews of old and they're the same people in Egypt. There was only a couple races of people that were ever in Egypt, so that can narrow it down.

@ishraelelectIt also says that these people would become many nations. Jews have never become many nations. The only nation Jews have ever had is this manufactured piece of land over here, that litter box in the Middle East, Israelite, that was purchased by people. But Israel was a man in the Bible named Jacob. and his descendants are Israelites.

@ishraelelectHas nothing to do with the promised land. And the promised land in the Bible was never called Israel any damn way. It was Canaan. So what's the point? These people, it's just a manufactured lie to get true Christianity to be pro-Zionist so that we're worshiping these Jews who are all anti-Christ by definition. And that's the whole project of it all.

@ishraelelectBut I'll leave it at that. Let whoever else go. I'm sure I left some things up too. I probably didn't do a good job. But anyways, you guys enjoy.

@natnewsnetworkNo, you did a very good job there and I want to add a couple of things here. The Assyrians, as you mentioned, recognized the Tendlos tribes after they were named after the people of Omri, right? The children of Omri or the people of Omri, they were called by the Assyrians and that is... recorded in the Assyrian tablets at that time as the Tsimri or Kumri, or the Bit-Kumri, the people of Omri.

@natnewsnetworkThese same people were recognized by the early Greeks as the Sumerians. That's the diaspora of the Ten Lost Tribes that went into the Anatolian and later Greek area. The Babylonians recognized them as the Egimeri. The Persians recognized them as the Sakaya or Sakasuni, the sons of Isaac. The later Greeks called them the Scythians and the Galatea, which means milk drinkers.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, you should all be familiar with the claim that... Only European people have high lactose intolerance, while Jews have 80-90% lactose intolerance.

@ishraelelectWell, were Jews ever called Chimerians or Scythians? If the answer is no, then they're not Israelites. Simple. Next.

@natnewsnetworkExactly. The early Romans recognized these Scythians or the Galatea as Gauls, right? And the later Romans called them the Germani. And if you actually look into the marks of Israel, all the prophecies that the 12 tribes of Israel will fulfill, none of them was fulfilled by Jews. None of them was fulfilled by Israel. Every single one of them, though, was fulfilled by European Christians.

Ian MalcolmAll I was going to say is that, Buck, not only do I appreciate the commentary and the perspective, also the delivery, the tone, and I love the draw. It just sounds, it's like molasses. It's fantastic. I absolutely love it.

@mandyarthurI was just going to say I loved it, too, and I was just actually, I was just commenting in the little group chat we have going, and I said, just follow this king. That was a great speech. I love it, Buck. You did awesome. Gained a follower.

Ian MalcolmAbsolutely. And again, please take no disrespect. We'll just cycle through another hand. This time, I'll make sure we get another person from this alternative view. We'll try to go, like I said, back and forth and back and forth. I think, why don't we go to Smoldering Precision, who I think might be coming from the other perspective.

Ian MalcolmAnd we'll just try to keep everybody respectful and polite and cordial, all those good things.

@im_on_to_themOkay, thanks. Yeah, I'll do my best to be a man of prestige like Aceric and a man of staunch integrity. So I guess I have three questions, and I'll try to ask them in an easy-to-understand way. I'm not the best communicator sometimes. But I just want to get the definitions correct. So are there only two types of distinctions?

@im_on_to_themYou have Jews and you have Gentiles. And when it says Jew, and it calls Jesus Judean, the tribe of Judah and Esther calls the Jew from the tribe of Benjamin.

@im_on_to_themSo Jews from Judea can also be Benjamites because that was in the Southern area too. Now, Luke 21, I'm sure everyone knows that the fulfillment of the Gentiles part. So it says there that the people of Judea, which is where the word Jew comes from, there it said, hey, leave there because this is supposed to happen. And then it says the Gentiles are coming to destroy the city.

@im_on_to_themSo are Gentiles then Jews? And Judeans are Gentiles and those Judeans are Gentiles and they're supposed to leave, but the Gentiles are Jews. And when it says that Jesus comes to slay all the nations or ethnos, are those Jews that he's coming to slay or are they Gentiles? Because it's the word for nations and Gentiles. And I just find that interesting.

@im_on_to_themAnd then, you know, he also says, Don't, in Matthew 6, don't pray to what the Gentiles pray to and the pagans and the heathens. So don't pray like Gentiles. Pray like, he's insinuating, pray like Jews. And then, you know, the guy brought up, oh, well, Jews, they claim to be Jews, but they're not Jews. So... Are the Gentiles claiming to be Jews?

@im_on_to_themI guess my question is, when it says Gentiles and pagans and heathens, and then it says Jews, are you saying, is the new narrative now for the Abrahamic religion, is it now saying that the Gentiles and the Goyim, they're actually the Jews in the Bible, and whenever it says Jews, that means Gentiles? That's, I guess, in so many words...

@im_on_to_themA simpler way to say it.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, that was highly confusing. So you have the term Goy and Goyim, right? According to Strong's Concordance 1471, you have it translated into the word nations, that is 373 times, heathen 142 times, Gentiles 30 times, people in general 11 times, another one times, and non-Jew I'm not sure what you're really asking here.

@natnewsnetworkThe apostles were sent to the Gentiles, right? Why were they sent to the Gentiles? Because they thought that they are the lost people of the faith, right?

@im_on_to_themIt's supposed to be because the... So that was actually a part of my question I forgot to add in. So, you know, everyone knows on here that in Isaiah, it says that in Isaiah 8, 14 to 16, Jesus, the Messiah, is supposed to come to divide and be a stumbling block amongst his own people. And when he says that, so he's doing what he's supposed to.

@natnewsnetworkYou're basically fulfilling prophecy here, right now.

@im_on_to_themWell, that's what I'm saying. So, dividing Jews and making them stumble, are you guys saying that that turned them into Gentiles and Arianized Jews, turning them into Gentiles, and the Gentiles became Jews? That's my ultimate question, is because if the Jews stop following the Messiah... Some of them did and some of them didn't.

@im_on_to_themBecause he's supposed to divide them, as the script says. So since it's playing out this script, and some are supposed to go one way and some are supposed to go another way, are you guys implying that those Jews became Arianized and turned into Gentiles? And that the Gentiles are bad or good?

@natnewsnetworkWhat do you mean with Jews?

@im_on_to_themOkay.

@natnewsnetworkAre you referring to the Israelites? Are you referring to the rabbinical Pharisees?

@im_on_to_themI'm referring to Jews and Gentiles. The difference of a Jew and a Gentile. That's what I'm referring to. When it says Gentiles will trample the city and the fulfillment of the Gentiles and don't pray to the Gentile pagan heathen gods, pray to the Jewish God of Judea. What is the difference between Jew and Gentile? And are you saying that the Jews in the New Testament that are fighting Jesus are actually Gentiles when it says that they're Jews?

@im_on_to_themIs that what you guys are saying? Or could it be that they're just fulfilling the script and some Jews are being a stumbling block like they're supposed to be because he's supposed to cause you to stumble, his own people? Or are you saying that they're actually, whenever it says Jew, that actually means Gentile? or Arian.

@natnewsnetworkThe term Jew is translated from Hebrew, Israelite, Judahite, Benjamite, Levite,

@natnewsnetworkSamaritan, Judean, and Edomite, even in one case.

@mandyarthurAnd Judeos.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, of course, yeah.

@im_on_to_themI guess my question was, are those Jews that you're saying, when they're called Jews, are you saying that they're actually Gentiles and pagans?

@natnewsnetworkIn my opinion, Jews, Rabbinical Talmudic Jews of today are pagans, yes. In my opinion.

@im_on_to_themNo, in the Bible, I mean. Are they the pagans that... That's what I'm trying to get at.

@mandyarthurThey weren't all Jews in the Bible.

@im_on_to_themThe Judeans, I'm sorry. The Ayyudeus. Whenever it says Ayyudeus are, you know, that weren't following and stoning him and... And they were half the Ayyudeans that were supposed to stumble in Isaiah 8, 14. It says he's supposed to... Those are Pharisees. I know, but those Pharisees, are they the Gentiles and the pagans?

@im_on_to_themBecause there's only two groups of people. There's Jews and Gentiles. So are they Gentiles then, if they're not Jews?

@natnewsnetworkThat's only two people, Jews and Gentiles?

@joann_marieThat is a lot of different ones. He calls them children of hell, so if that helps.

@im_on_to_themWell, I'm just saying they're called Jews in the Bible. So I'm asking you, are they, since you're saying they're fake Jews, are they Gentiles then? Whenever it says, are you Deus?

@natnewsnetworkNo, they're not.

@im_on_to_themSo then what are they?

@natnewsnetworkThe Romans would be called Gentiles. The Gauls, the Galatians, they would be called Gentiles. The Greek would be called Gentiles.

@im_on_to_themSo then who are the Ayudaeans that you're saying are the ones against Jesus that are Jews, that say, you Jews, that are the Jews that don't follow him and that stone him? What are those Jews then?

@natnewsnetworkThat's different people, right? Judahites, Benjamites, a few Levites probably, then of course the Edomites that were mass converted.

@im_on_to_themBut are Edomites Gentiles? So if they're called Jews, are you saying that that actually means Gentiles?

Speaker 2Can I get this real quick? He's playing fucking Jewish word games. Like trying to explain the word Jew to a pagan is like trying to explain per capita to a black. So what he's saying is everyone that is called a Jew in our modern Bible breaks down to anyone living in the land of Judea. Just like anyone in the land of Texas right now is called a Texan, despite the race and demographics that it was even 100 years ago.

Speaker 2So therefore, Edomites, Canaanites... Benjamites, Judahites, all called Jews. So when Jesus comes back after the mass conversion of Edomites to Judea that became Hebrews, like following that, so they would have been called Judahites, but they were Edomites. This is who Jesus is calling out. He's saying, hey, you are from your father, Satan, and so on and so forth.

Speaker 2But they're not... PURE BLOOD ISRAELITES

Speaker 2You see the word Gentiles covering the northern tribes of Israel that were taken about, and also the word diaspora was only meant to cover the Israelite tribes that were scattered. So I don't know if that answers your question. I had a lot more to go on, but I just figured I'd try to answer that for you.

@im_on_to_themWell, it's not really, and here's why. So... It's, you know, just in Luke 21, 21 to 24, it says that the Judeans, so that could be anybody, as you guys just said, anyone can live in Judea. It's not only Jews. So the Judeans are leaving, and then Gentiles are coming to attack that city, which, and for the fulfillment of Gentiles.

@im_on_to_themAnd if he's saying not to pray to the gods of... The Disruptor, H1story Media, Psycho Mally, Proteus 5, 3 Witnesses

Speaker 2Yeah, he's speaking to everyone in the area, and that was fulfilled. It was fulfilled in 70 AD. If you read the Jewish-Roman wars by Flavius Josephus or Tacitus, it explains that millions were killed on the spot that didn't flee and listen to Christ's word. He clearly put it out to get out and flee because war and destruction is coming on that area.

Speaker 2So the Gentiles being the pagans at the time that had not converted to Christianity, yes, they were worshiping false gods. And whenever he says Judeans, he's talking to the Jew and the true blood Israelites that are there. And when I say Jew, I mean the modern Jews like the Edomites. But they have no ties to the Israelites of the Bible.

Speaker 2Like, what's his name? He was going on earlier. He was nailing it to a T, but... You can just look at all the promises of God to the Israelites, and there's only one group of people that fulfill it, that has spread out like sand in the sea, stars in the sky, and became a multitude of nations. That's the first thing they've been able to do.

Speaker 2They've all become Christians. The Jews had Christendom in Europe until the 1700s, when they really started gaining their foothold in there. And that's the only time that... Thank you for letting me up. I'll just leave on that. So...

@im_on_to_themOne last statement that since Jesus was supposed to come to divide his own people that some would worship him and some wouldn't, the way it looks like from you guys is that the Jews that rejected him, that were like, that's not him, they became gentilized and were the Gentiles, I'm assuming. And they just are the Gentiles now and they're not Jewish anymore, maybe.

@im_on_to_themAnd that was my...

@im_on_to_themNobody ever can answer that so thanks a lot.

@im_on_to_themNo, he didn't. His answer is both of them, he says. He says God does regret, and then he also says he never regrets.

@natnewsnetworkOne means regret, and one means repent, right?

@im_on_to_themIt's the same Hebrew word.

@natnewsnetworkCan you be sorry about something?

@im_on_to_themOkay, this is the last thing I'll have you guys look up. Numbers 23, 19. The word is nasham for regret. Genesis 6, 4. And the Lord regretted. Nasham. So one God. And thus speaketh the Antichrist.

@mandyarthurNext.

Ian MalcolmHey, integrity and decorum, that is what we are all about. Going to try and do it as well as we can. So thank you, Mr. Smoldering Precision. Appreciate the submissions there. And we will continue right along. We'll keep trying to ping pong. And so we will go to Brian Victor Petro. We'll see what comes out of this. And then we will go to a familiar face with Mr. Godfrey.

@patternrecpetroYeah, so like the conversation just keeps kind of going all over the place. So I'm just going to add whatever it is I can, then you guys can take it from there. But when we were talking Pontius Pilate, the name of the game out here is pattern recognition. And my thing is 9-11. And if you look, the guy that basically claimed or found Jesus to be guilty to be claiming to be king of the Jews, his name was Pontius Pilate, P-I-L-A-T-E.

@patternrecpetroAnd then on 9-11, you get pilots, they get hijacked, P-I-L-O-T, pilot. They get hijacked and then Christ reappears in the pattern recognition because you got the New York Ranger jersey, numbers 9, Adam Graves, 11, Mark Messy. And then 01, Ed Giacomin. Gia means God is gracious. Then you're left with C-O-M-I-N coming. So you need a lot of Graves 9 because the Messiah 11 is 01 coming.

@patternrecpetro9-11-01, it craves the Messiah coming. And then to help this smoldering guy out, I think he left. But at the end of time, there's just good karma and bad karma. So there's good Jew-Jew and bad Jew-Jew. At the end of time, everyone's in their Nephilim body and Christ is going to divide you between good Jew and bad Jew. Good Jews go to the right hand of the Father.

@patternrecpetroBad Jews go to the left hand of the Father. The modern, like old Jerusalem is Israel. New Jerusalem, Tesla said if you could understand the magnificence of a 3-6-9, you'd have a key to the universe. So you just break Jerusalem up into a 3-6-9 pattern. You got J-E-R, U-S-A, L-E-M. What's the first or the three in the middle?

@patternrecpetroIt's U-S-A, U-S-A, U-S-A. So if you live in the United States of America and your thing is, well, we just hate the Jews. Well, symbolically on file, you are labeled as a Jew even if you hate that. So you have to come to grips with the terms that at the end of time, life just gets real easy. It's binary duality and the good Jews go to the right hand of the Father.

@patternrecpetroto live and die by sword off with the heads go to heaven. And then the badges to the left, to the left, everything you own, psyche, soul, spirit, and shadow. All right, all right, all right.

Ian MalcolmWhen we got to the left, to the left, everything you own in a box to the left. And we're gonna go to the next speaker. Brian, thank you. Oh man, I think you might be a tweaker. That'll rhyme. No, Brian, I appreciate that. That was different. And like I said, we're gonna get lots of different views up here.

@g0dfr0yThank you, Ian. I don't have much to say. I just wanted to congratulate Mandy for having the space. And Mandy, we hope you host more spaces. You're an amazing voice on this platform, and it's been great getting to know you. And I hope you are inspired to host more spaces after this. You know, I just wanted to say, I hope this isn't too kumbaya, but...

@g0dfr0yThere's too much infighting between white pagans and white Christians. It's like the most foolish battle imaginable because we're on the same team. I get where they're coming from, at least in what they think, which is that by being Christians, we're serving a Jewish agenda. I understand that they have noble intentions with what they're doing.

@g0dfr0yThat's why I'm not too harsh on them for that. Look, to be frank, when it comes to Christian Zionism, that is a problem. That is a massive problem. And it's something we all need to work against because Christian Zionism got us into this problem that we're in today. And that's why there's so many people that are brainwashed in high positions of politics and the military and finance and other things.

@g0dfr0ySo it is an issue. But I just, you know, I think it would be cool. If Christians and Pagans could come together on this app, maybe host some spaces together and come together. Instead of creating this infighting, which is really unnecessary, we're on the same team. And if you guys are ever interested in that, any of the Pagan people down there, please DM me.

@g0dfr0yAnd I would come to one of your spaces. I think that we can... Because I noticed that you guys have your own thing going on, which is totally cool. No disrespect intended toward you guys. But it seems very insular. It seems like... It's creating almost these inside baseball spaces, and there's a lot of intelligent voices in there, and I think that we can come together to reach a broader audience.

@g0dfr0yThat's all I'm saying. No pressure. Again, I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything by saying that, but I think that I've been in those spaces. There's some really intelligent people. I've heard a Sarek speak. He's definitely an intelligent individual, and I think that we should come together as opposed to... And again, I'm not saying anybody on this space, like Sarek was being a gentleman.

@g0dfr0yHe was like being respectful and I get where he's coming from. He's not trying to cause any issues. But yeah, but I think that Christians and pagans should be coming together more on this app and in real life. Thank you.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, I would definitely agree. And I've been reaching out to our pagan brothers for three years now. constantly right back then hosting jq radio then when i started my own spaces i always tried reaching out even even to ht which i um labeled as a fat back in jq radio days already and yeah it turned out that that whole movement this whole neo-pagan movement is funded by jews right so i i see a lot of

@natnewsnetworkSubversive Influence.

@natnewsnetworkYou can go right after me, CQ. I think that's Headless Giant, right?

@cqpirateradioYeah, it is.

@natnewsnetworkI see them hanging out with groups that are aligned with the Azov Battalion, which is a Jewish neo-Nazi LARPing group, a CIA PSYOP, a Mossad PSYOP.

@natnewsnetworkI don't say that all pagans are in on that. Most people are definitely not aware. Most people are very well intended, right? They see the subversion that is going on through Christian institutions, the clergy plan supported by Christian institutions. But to blame all of that on Christianity and That is intellectually lazy in my opinion.

@natnewsnetworkSo I can only reach out but when we are being attacked like all the time and especially me and a couple of my friends have been the number one topic in their spaces for a while now because we believe that The European Christians are the biblical Israel, right? So we are being attacked from left and from right and from the Jews.

@natnewsnetworkAnd what I see is that the neo-pagans are holding the position of the Jews. They are defending everything they claim. So I see not only a spiritual, but also a political alignment. because they defend everything that their lies are built on. This whole house of lies, this whole intricate plan of deceiving the nations built on a stolen identity and a twisting of scripture that is protected by this

@natnewsnetworkNeo-pagan movement right at this moment. And I try to break the spell as they do try to break our spell, right? The Abrahamic matrix, what, what, what, what. So, yeah, I can only reach out. But when I only experience hostility towards us and Christians in general, at some point you have to say, okay, enough is enough.

Ian MalcolmI'll also really quickly, I'll just add, really quickly just add to that, and then we'll go to you, CQ. Which is just, so we always try to run really what are our attempts at high IQ conversations in these rooms. And I say it because I apply that to all of the things that we talk about, even the JQ. And what I mean by that is, I don't think you'll find a lot of people coming into our rooms that will just say, oh, it's damn Jews, right?

Ian MalcolmAnd that will have,

Ian MalcolmThe Disruptor, H1story Media,

Ian MalcolmA rendition as we can possibly muster. And for whatever reason, I don't see a lot of people that are on Mandy or Veritas' side throwing very midwit memes into the purple pill, but I see a whole lot of stuff from the other side of the spectrum. And to Veritas' comments, the weirdest is that a lot of them are basically suggesting that by aligning with Christian values or by having, let's say, any prioritization of Christianity as being something of benefit,

Ian MalcolmI'm going to mute you. Control yourself and act like an adult in my space or I will remove you. We're not going to behave like that. That is low IQ. Both the lack of impulse control as well as the sharing of these ridiculous memes. You can both prioritize the idea of religion and morals while also having a view that nationalism and your race is an important thing to fend for.

Ian MalcolmIf you're incapable of recognizing that, then you might be a midwit. I really do. I tried to be as sincerely appreciative of, I think it was Eris that was in here before because he did a wonderful job. I wish there was more of that. And to Veritas' comment, I'm not seeing much of that in the Purple Pill. Hopefully we will get those speakers up here.

Ian MalcolmBut if not, maybe shame on you guys and might explain why there's not a whole lot of interest in the conversation. So maybe try to present yourself in a high IQ fashion, control your impulses, and with that, we'll go to CQ.

@cqpirateradioIt's because he said he would shoot a pagan in the back, and he's very open and honest about his anti-native European cultural stance. First and foremost, I'd like to ask everybody in the room, if you could raise your hand for me if you're looking forward to the Messianic Age. If you could, just raise that hand. Show me.

@cqpirateradioDo you look forward to the Messianic Age? The end of the age of the Gentiles. Who's up for the end of the age of the Gentiles in Luke 21-22? 26. This is why we can't trust you people, because every time you've ever been trusted, you stab us in the back. Now, you could say it's low IQ, don't cut me off, but this is the fact.

@cqpirateradioNeopaganism in the public square and its relevance to Judaism in 1999 by Dr. Manfred Gerstein, right? He says... that the ancient revulsion in regard to paganism felt by adherents of Judaism, this is what he delivered to the Knesset, links up with the need to take stock of these contemporary phenomena. The return of paganism forces Jews to focus on Jewish law and tradition which proclaim that God is central in the world, nature is not sacred, nature is not sacred, and its laws represent barbarity.

@cqpirateradioThe Noahide laws in Acts 15, Acts 15 has four of the seven Noahide laws, represent civil society. There are many reasons for Jewish observers which attentively... which, let me see, which attentively which directs the powerful renewed interest in nature will take and what consequences this may have for world Jewry. So very clearly they are not interested in anything having to do with paganism.

@cqpirateradioVeritas is a liar. He's lying his ass off. This is a paper given to the Knesset. I'm sorry, but if you want to talk about what they... Do you understand Cohen? No, no, be quiet, be quiet. I didn't cut you off. Now, this is the problem. See, you guys are lying. It's not called lying. It's not. Shut up. Shut up.

Ian MalcolmWhoa, whoa, whoa. Okay, so here's the high IQ representative of, I suppose, this ideology. I wish we could have the heiress guy back. No, no, no. I don't know how you're speaking through the mic, but I can't imagine. Even if I went into a Jewish supremacist space and I was like, guys, here's why I know that the Jews have way too much power, and they muted me, I'd sit there and I'd wait and I'd be like,

Ian MalcolmAll right, well, they'll let me eventually. Instead, you're spamming the button. You're like... It's just very strange. But in all sincerity, and I don't mean to try and embarrass you, what is the focus of the space that we're holding right now?

@cqpirateradioIs Jesus Jewish?

Ian MalcolmOkay, so why are you going down a complete rant and utilizing the time that I'm giving... Wait, wait, wait. You can't... Wow. Why are you wasting the time that I'm affording you?

@cqpirateradioI'm responding to Veritas.

Ian MalcolmNo, you're...

@cqpirateradioI'm responding to Veritas.

Ian MalcolmYou're going... Wait, no, no, no, no. You're going... Okay, you've got your planned script that was going to be to come in and to say, every time we give you people, which is like, wait a second, I don't even use that when I'm talking about the Jewish supremacists, but we give you people, you stab us in the back, right?

Ian MalcolmCan you... And look, maybe you missed the cue, maybe Veritas tripped you up. I will give you, go for it. You got two minutes, address the question that's in the nest here.

@cqpirateradioSemitic Hyperbole, Hyperbole. And what you're doing... Yeah, it's hyperbole. And you know what you're doing is you're using terms like Antichrist and all the rest of this stuff to condemn native European culture. You guys have completely destroyed our racial heritage. And now you're saying you want to work with us? Bullshit.

@cqpirateradioI don't believe any of it. You guys have only done one thing, which is...

Ian MalcolmWait, wait, wait. In all sincerity... Do you think that, you said work with you, do you think that you are productive with the thing that you're working towards?

@cqpirateradioVery much so. You guys have lost so much of the potential you guys had in 2016 when you were making this whole Christ is King movement. And we're bringing it back to the ethnocentric version of paganism, which is the original version. We are the people.

Ian MalcolmOkay, so can I ask you a question? Because it's ethnocentric and HT is your guy, right?

@cqpirateradioWhat do you mean by that?

Ian MalcolmWell, I mean, it seems like HT used to run CQ Radio with you, right?

@cqpirateradioHe pops in from time to time, but that's not his deal. That's my deal.

Ian MalcolmBut you understand that he's no longer ethnocentric, right?

@cqpirateradioHe is ethnocentric. He founded CQ Radio. He's clearly not. His documents are ethnocentric. Yes, but I'm saying that one of your big spokespeople... Before Christianity, there were only ethno-religions.

Ian MalcolmIt seems like it's difficult for you to have a conversation. Wow, this is wild.

@natnewsnetworkThat's a historical fact. What you claim Judaism to be, right? Before Christianity, there was only ethno-religion. Do you consider Judaism as an ethno-religion?

@cqpirateradioEthno-religion, that's right. It's the only one surviving. How? How?

@natnewsnetworkWhen every single one who converts to Judaism...

@cqpirateradioThe Jews have always been a very small population. And when they take people into Judaism, it's because they reach these genetic bottlenecks. What they have is a big problem with inbreeding, if you guys haven't noticed. That's because of their entirely small population. They have to take new people into those populations.

@cqpirateradioWe don't have that problem as Europeans. But Jews have always had that problem, especially after 70 AD when Rome almost got the job done.

@natnewsnetworkSo it's not an ethno-religion anymore, right? It is.

@cqpirateradioIt is. It is made from the Jewish people for the Jewish people. That's why the Messianic Age is the end of the Gentiles. This is when the Jews want to take over the world and provide a one-world government.

Ian MalcolmBut we agree with that endgame for the Jewish supremacists. The thing that we're trying to express, and which I find very strange, so your attack on what we're doing, which is the preservation of both Culture, religion, morality, and in the process, the nationality and the ethnicity of the people there within. You're saying you guys aren't ethnocentric, but one of the most vocal, and I'm not critiquing him when I say this, although he critiqued me a good long while, right?

Ian MalcolmHD, you're saying that he's an ethnocentrist, which is strange because he definitely was, and he was a hyper white nationalist, and I don't say that as a slight, that's what he would certainly say that he was.

Ian MalcolmIt basically is just hating on Christianity. It seems pretty overt with the way that you talk about you people and all these other kind of emotionally inflamed pieces of rhetoric.

@natnewsnetworkHere's the problem. You know what's even more ironic? Let me just... You're going to filibuster. All you do is filibuster.

@cqpirateradioWe have Donnie in these spaces because he reads the Bible. Sorry, I have to mute you. He reads the Bible.

@natnewsnetworkSo you know what's most ironic about that? HT and his group didn't portray themselves as the Romans standing in front of the crosses. He portrayed himself as the Pharisees because it was not a crowd of Romans at the crucifixion, right? It was the Jews that stood in front of them. And also he depicted themselves in a Bolshevik Russian Red Army uniform.

@natnewsnetworkHe called his radio CQ Radio 666. So, yeah, it is kind of telling, right? I mean, the connections you guys have to the Azov, to clearly subverted movements, is very telling.

@cqpirateradioWell, first and foremost, we've had multiple accounts that get reported to hell by all of these Christians who hate hearing Bible verses, right? So we've had multiple, multiple accounts that we've had to go through because the Christians have reported everything that we tried to do. This is a constant theme right now. My account is...

@cqpirateradioon a hiatus for about 30 days because Christians can't... Yeah, my main account was mass reported by pagans for being Christian. Yeah, yeah, probably. Yeah, it's retaliatory. What we do is retaliate. This is what happened after Charlemagne. This is what happened after Charlemagne. This is what happened after Charlemagne.

@cqpirateradioEuropean people sold him into slavery.

@natnewsnetworkOh, yeah, yeah, let's talk... Since you interrupt anyway, let's talk about Charlemagne, right? Charlemagne defended Europe from the Muslim invasion, right? No, he did not. He did. Did he or did he not reconquer the Iberian Peninsula?

@cqpirateradioAnd the Vikings sold Christians in retaliation. That's what happened. If you look at the timeline, you see that he sold European pagans.

@natnewsnetworkI'm not sure why you're interrupting all the time. To Muslims.

@cqpirateradioYou don't have a response.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, okay. So what actually happened was during that conquest against the Muslims, these pagans backstabbed him, right? Like every single time in European history when Europe was facing Outwardly Threats, like the Umayyads or the Muslims, whatever. These pagans kept on attacking from behind. Name one thing that pagan societies ever did that was pro-white.

@natnewsnetworkName one society that was, like you said, an ethnostate. Every single pagan society that I know, starting from the Greeks to the Romans to every single northern tribe to the Vikings, they were all race mixing. Name one passage in your Eddas or in any other pagan scripture that condemns miscegenation with other people. Name one.

@natnewsnetworkName one thing that you, according to your scriptures or to your societies, was ever wrong.

@cqpirateradioThat's the worst part, is he can get up here and lie and then mute people. It's disgusting. It's disgusting, Veritas. You should know better. Name an example. You have the flaw. Name an example. You are a fraud traitor. I'm leaving.

@genblessings99Why don't you just call him an anti-Semite?

@joann_marieI accept your defeat. Just name one example.

@genblessings99I like the comment on the topic here. I think most people miss, which is baffling to me. Was Jesus a Jew? Jesus was the last Jew. If you look at the Bible, the Jews were the antagonist of the Bible to the point where Jesus actually inflicted physical violence on them. The story of the Messiah Jesus is rooted in God's imperfection, which God's imperfection was his perfection.

@genblessings99He could not understand imperfection. And so he sent an emissary, someone who he could actually experience life through so that he could understand imperfection. The ultimate sin of man is racism. That was the ultimate story of the Christ. John 3 and 16 says that God so loved the world that he sent his only begotten son that whoever believed in him should have everlasting life.

@genblessings99Before that, he created a special race, the Jews. He could not understand why this race that he favored so much sinned so much. When he came down and experienced life, he understood that racism is what breeded all of the dysfunctional, most evil, collectively evil activity in man. Jesus came down and he ended the Jewish religion.

@genblessings99That's why it's a dead religion. That's the reason why Jews act the way they act. Because that mindset breeds that kind of dysfunctional behavior. And so when Jesus came, he came good. And he said, you know what? I get it now. I understand the imperfection of men. I can't put one man over another. Because that breeds this dysfunctional behavior in humans across the board.

@genblessings99Everyone's equal based on merit and their values. And if you follow this law, then no one man is better than the other, and you get the reward that every other man gets. That's the ultimate message of the Christ, which most people miss. Thank you so much. I don't know what your name is.

@tonywakuuThank you for letting me speak.

Ian MalcolmOh, no, and thank you. I thought it was very, very, very well delivered, my friend, and I certainly appreciate all of the varying opinions. We'll keep kind of cycling everybody through here. Taz, any final kind of commentary, and then we will go down to Mr. Raed.

@genblessings99Well, that's it. That's the message most people miss. That's the story of Christ. God couldn't understand imperfection, and so he had to come down in the physical form because, Bound by a perfect mind and being a perfect being, he couldn't understand imperfection and that was his flaw. And the Christ, the story leading up to the Christ was him trying to understand imperfection, which he couldn't because he was a perfect being.

@genblessings99Coming down in the physical form, he was able to understand that. That's why at the end of the story, when Christ ultimately lost faith, everyone was forgiven. On the cross, right before he gave up the spirit, he lost faith and asked why was he forsaken? This was God asking himself. He understood now the weakness of the flesh.

@genblessings99He had to go through everything. And his last words were, Father, why has thou forsaken me? And once he lost faith, being God, losing faith, he said, it is done. And that's why everybody was forgiven. He understood the imperfection, the weakness of flesh. And all you have to do now is ask for forgiveness because of that understanding.

@genblessings99Racism is the ultimate sin. We see it throughout history, what it does to different tribes when one tribe believes that it's greater than the other. It's not the racism, it's what the racism breeds, the negative attributes and behaviors and mindsets and actions that a race will take because they believe one is greater than the other.

@genblessings99This is the reason why the only people in the Bible that Christ physically exuded violence towards was the Jews because of those behaviors, all of those behaviors that the Jews exude. The Disruptor, H1story Media,

Ian MalcolmStereotype

Ian MalcolmThe Disruptor, H1story Media, Proteus 5, 3 Witnesses

Ian MalcolmD.F.I.R. James

@thelevantinemanYeah, thanks, Ian. Good to see you, JoAnn, Veritas. Mandy, thank you so much for that, the way you presented all that. And especially the linguistic part of it, the language, right? Because this topic is driving me. I can't believe that we're in a time where we have to snatch Jesus Christ, you know, from the dirty, filthy claws of the Talmudic tribe.

@thelevantinemanI cannot believe the hubris, the chutzpah, to now, after they sold you guys in the West, mostly, you know, Christian Zionism and the Judeo-Christian values and that whole stupidity. Now, they're like, well, Jesus Christ was a Jew. We gave you Christianity. And I cannot believe that some people... I mean, I agree with Veritas.

@thelevantinemanNow it makes sense that this movement, this CQ, it's like you want to preserve your ancestry and your heritage. You decide to make it your cause to just attack. Christianity, it's like, yeah, I mean, any 12-year-old will tell you you're counterproductive. You're just exactly doing what the Jews would want, right? So anyway, I don't want to go on a lot, but look, I am not a theologian.

@thelevantinemanI am Christian 100,000%. For me, I follow Christ as, you know,

@thelevantinemanSomeone that I would learn and try to walk the same way in terms of loving other people, in terms of not lying, in terms of being honest, in terms of being honorable, in terms of all the good things, the moral compass for me, I take from that. But I have rejected organized religion a while back. But I don't need to be a theologian to know that Jesus was definitely not a Jew, especially in today's lingo, in today's parlance, in today's words.

@thelevantinemanDefinitely not, because what is a Jew today, right? Look, for me as a Lebanese Christian, it just sounds like as if I'm arguing that Abraham Lincoln wasn't Hindu. This is how stupid I feel even engaging in that. But let's do it. What is it due today? What is this group and what is the most prominent literature that they follow?

@thelevantinemanI call them the Talmudic tribe because it is very obvious that the spirit of what they believe in is mostly the Talmud. So, How can the Talmudic tribe be considered anything but the exact opposite of Christianity and Christ? The exact opposite. The thing, the people that decided to put him on the cross. So it is an insult.

@thelevantinemanI feel like it just adds insult to injury in my case. They have stolen the land. They have...

@thelevantinemanIt's like a sauce you put. Hand me the CJ. JC, excuse me. JC. This is how much contempt they have for Christ and his message. And they have been wanting to destroy that message ever since its birth in the 33 AD. So, yeah, no.

@thelevantinemanJesus is definitely not a Jew. And if we look at language-wise, what we consider and we know as the Jews of today, they are the Talmudic tribe. And then Mandy explained really well in the old times. And yes, Yehudi. I mean, I speak Lebanese. Lebanese is very much, most of the Levantine languages on the shore of the Mediterranean are very much infused with Aramaic.

@thelevantinemanAnd yes, there is Yehudi, there is Abraniyin, you know, the Hebrews, and there is Banu Israel, the sons of Jacob, I believe. So you have to study the language of the time to understand what things mean, what Jesus said, what, you know, the books say, but definitely, definitely not what I said to start with. The Jews of today have nothing,

@thelevantinemanNothing to do except with the lineage that started with the Babylonian Talmud that became, you know, it was an oral law. They wouldn't even dare write it anywhere or document it anywhere. It was from mouth to ear over generations. And then they documented it, I think, after Christ they started documenting it. So this is the line you want to follow.

@thelevantinemanTo identify that group that will be then also the Pharisees. They followed the Talmud and they still follow the Talmud and all their behaviors for the last 2,000 years.

@thelevantinemanas Christ as their own, and that's not going to happen. And they're going down and the truth is out. So thank you and thanks for the mic.

@natnewsnetworkThank you, Raed. And to point out how fundamentally different Hebrewism and the Mosaic law is from the teachings of the elder. I'll just read some examples here. If ten men smote a man with ten staves and he died, they are exempt from punishment, according to Sanhedrin 78a, while Numbers 35 states, he that smites a man with a stave so he dies, he is a murderer and shall be put to death.

@natnewsnetworkNot requiring to keeping up the vows. One may declare, every vow which I may make in the future shall be null. according to Nedarim 23a to 23b. While Numbers 30 says, if a man vows, he shall not break his word. He shall do according to all that he spoke. Blasphemy allowed. One can revile the divine name if mentally applying it to some other object.

@natnewsnetworkSanhedrin 65a and b. While... He that blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. In Leviticus, okay, that is a modern perspective, of course, very harsh, but a completely different mindset, right? Here, a harlot's hire is permitted for what the woman has received is legally a gift. Abodah Sarah, 62b, while harlotry is condemned in Deuteronomy.

@natnewsnetworkBestiality. Women having intercourse with a beast can marry a priest. The act is but mere a wound. Yebamot, 59b. What? It is permitted to consult by a charm the spirits of oil and eggs and make incantations, according to Sanhedrin 101a. What?

@natnewsnetworkCursing parents allowed. One who curses his parents isn't punished unless he curses them by divine name. Or this one. He who gives of his seed to Moloch incurs no punishment. Sanhedrin 64a. And the best one. If one committed sodomy with a child of less than nine years, no guilt is incurred. Sanhedrin 54b. If you really think that Judaism, the teachings of the elder, the moral decay of rabbinical Talmudism has anything to do with biblical Hebrewism, you should definitely read the Talmud.

@natnewsnetworkIt is a book of filth. It is a book of moral decay, and I see no resemblance in Christianity or ancient Hebrewism.

Ian MalcolmWell, very well stated there, Veritas. And let's go, we'll kind of continue moving things along. Like I said before, we'll try to go back and forth between familiar faces and those that might be on a differing side of the... The Isle here. So with that being said, why don't we go to DFIR James, and then we will check in with history, and then go to Mr. Tony Walker.

@dfirjamesHey, how's it going? So I'm on the Jesus is a Jew, not was, is a Jew side. And I would also like to try and show why that the Jews today are still the Jews, if I could speak without being kicked out. Of course, go for it. When Israel came out of Egypt, what were they called? The mixed multitude. Joseph had an Egyptian wife.

@dfirjamesMoses took an Ethiopian wife. And not only that, once they entered the Promised Land, they took wives from the people that were there. So from the very beginning, they were already not one people group. They were a mixed multitude of multiple different nations coming together under the covenant of God. Now, in Deuteronomy and Leviticus, when God establishes the covenant with them, he says, if you fail to uphold my statutes and you fail to do what I tell you to do, I will scatter you among all peoples.

@dfirjamesI will draw the sword after you forever, basically, right? Until he calls them back. Now, he does say at the end, he will call them back because... Just as when they were with Moses in the wilderness and he went up to the top of the mountain for a short period of time, they already had forgotten that God just did amazing things to get them out of Egypt and started worshiping the golden calf.

@dfirjamesAnd even when they entered the land, they continued to apostatize against God. And God said they would do this when he made the covenant with them. He said, you will continue to do this. You will continue to be bad. You will be wicked. So yes, the Jews are wicked people. They have continued to do that. And even when Christ came, the remnant was saved and they believed.

@dfirjamesBut Jesus himself said, you will not see me again until you say, blessed is the one who comes in the name of the Lord. And when you go to Ezekiel and Zephaniah, Ezekiel says, two thirds, sorry, Zechariah, says two thirds of Israel will be killed. God says he's going to bring all of Israel back, which is a mixed multitude.

@dfirjamesRemember, they're not from one nation. You've got Jews coming back from Ethiopia, from Russia, from the United States, from all over the world. They're all returning to Israel, and they're not all Jewish, quote unquote, as by blood, because they were a mixed multitude to begin with. But he says at the time of the end, he will essentially destroy them.

@dfirjamesIsrael will fall. Israel will be hammered down. I think that's one of the things we're kind of missing here. We're not paying attention to the prophecy. God said he would do this. And when people go, oh, well, the Rothschilds built the Israel of today. Well, yeah. So did Cyrus tell them to go make and rebuild the temple?

@dfirjamesOr did God change Cyrus' heart to have them go rebuild the temple? So same thing with Rothschilds. In Revelation it says, I will put a plan in their mind to fulfill my goals, to fulfill my deeds. So God put a plan in their minds to fulfill his deeds and his goals.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, thank you. That would basically go over the capacity of the space because I can... Break down why all of these women that allegedly are like Kushite, Egyptian, blah, blah, blah, right? Every single part that is talking about that, it is talking about the same people, right? If you look at the term miscegenation, you find that mixture of blood of different peoples.

@natnewsnetworkis forbidden by Abraham in Genesis 24, by Isaac in Genesis 28, by Moses in Exodus 30, and Deuteronomy 7, by Joshua in Joshua 23, by Ezra in Ezra 9, by Nehemiah in Nehemiah 13, and then reasons for prohibition of miscegenation in Exodus, Deuteronomy, etc., etc.

@natnewsnetworkI made a biblical breakdown, and you can also, he did a very good job actually looking into the historical background, why all these women could not be from different tribes, legally speaking. Because most of these stories have these little snippets that, legally speaking, by ancient Hebrew law, they couldn't have been from different tribes.

@natnewsnetworkFor example, the story of the Kingsman Redeemer, right? You can only redeem that under Hebrew law if that person is from your own tribe. So no, there was never any contradiction in that. And a multitude of nations is referring to the different tribes that were... already then established. That doesn't mean that they come from completely different peoples.

@dfirjamesSo Joseph found a Jewish wife and Moses' wife was not from Ethiopia?

@natnewsnetworkNo. She was not a black woman, if you mean that one.

@yitzhak32941934Where did the black people come from then?

@natnewsnetworkOkay, if you want to have...

@natnewsnetworkDo you know the whole story of Moses meeting that wife?

@dfirjamesSomewhat. Go for it.

@natnewsnetworkNo, I'm asking you. I cannot recall that completely. I can give you a breakdown of why she is from the same tribe. I can send that to you.

@dfirjamesWell, his family was very upset that he married her.

@dfirjamesWhy would they be upset if she was from the same tribe? Because she was Ethiopian.

@natnewsnetworkShe lived in the land of Kush.

@dfirjamesShe was a Kushite. And where's Kush?

@natnewsnetworkThere are two historical Kush. One is Ethiopia, that was basically the earliest Christian kingdom that was into the 6th century A.D., And that's because Philip baptized the Ethiopian eunuch.

@dfirjamesRemember, Philip met the Ethiopian eunuch reading Isaiah 53 on the road, and he said, how can I understand this unless somebody explains it? So Philip explained it. He believed in the Messiah and was baptized, and then Philip was caught away.

@natnewsnetworkI just told you that Ethiopia was a white Christian kingdom into the 7th century.

@dfirjamesEthiopia was a white, so a 1700-year-old black church.

@natnewsnetworkThe kingdom of Aksum. Why do Ethiopians all have more than 50% European DNA?

@dfirjamesBecause we all come from three men.

@dfirjamesThe Sons of Noah. And we're told where they went and what nations they built.

@dfirjamesBecause each son went and built a different nation. And then they split off into multiple other nations.

@dfirjamesAnd we know that Jesus was from the tribe of Judah and a direct descendant of David. So he was From the tribe of Judah, which is where we get the term Jew from, which is now just a blanket term for every Hebrew or Israelite that is out there today.

@natnewsnetworkSo you think that all Jews are Judahite?

@dfirjamesNo, I think two-thirds will be killed. Only a remnant will be saved. Most of them will die because of their evil wickedness and their unbelief in Christ. Because their unbelief in their own Messiah. Which is exactly what we're told. Regarding the gospel, they are our enemies for our sake.

@natnewsnetworkWhen I look today into the Western world, I would say two-thirds vanishing would be justified. But even when Stephen was being... And wicked and evil of the West has become... And they always have been. I would definitely subscribe to that.

@dfirjamesWell, they always have been wicked and evil. That's God's redemptive plan to show that he can, in his sovereignty, redeem such a wicked people. Because they are so wicked, God, in his sovereignty, in his grace, will redeem a remnant out of these wicked people. And he even tells you, when he gives them the covenant, that I will make people that did not know my name call after my name, which is us.

@dfirjamesThe Christians. We are the nations that didn't know his name calling after his name. And it's our job to make them jealous with our relationship with Christ, their Messiah, through our love. Because even Stephen, when he was being stoned to death by Jews, still did not curse them. He cried out for God to forgive them for they do not know what they do because they have been blinded in part until the fullness of the Gentiles comes in.

@natnewsnetworkI'm not sure what your point right now is.

@dfirjamesI'm literally quoting scripture. I know the passage, yes. Okay, so they won't even recognize that they are wrong or blind until the Antichrist puts the object that causes desecration on the Temple Mount. And that's when they'll go, oh crap, we are retarded. And repent, at least the ones that God will call. The rest will all die.

@dfirjamesBoth physically and spiritually. They will get the first death and the second death. But it's not our job to hate. It's our job to preach the gospel and the good news that the Messiah has come, died for our sins, rose again on the third day, and all that believe in him will have eternal life when he returns because the dead will rise first.

@dfirjamesand then those that are alive and remain will be caught up in the clouds to meet him and he will come back down to earth on the Mount of Olives and establish his kingdom in Jerusalem.

@joann_marieBut doesn't you have anything else to add? I don't know enough about this topic, sorry.

@dfirjamesMaybe you should go read the prophets. Okay. Jesus and Luke... When he resurrects from the dead, he's walking back with his own followers. And they didn't recognize him. And Jesus calls him out and says, you fools. You failed to believe everything that Moses and the prophets wrote about them.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, I can recycle you, Veritas.

@dfirjamesBut Jesus calls out his own followers and calls them fools for not believing everything that Moses and the prophets wrote about them. All right, thank you so much.

@joann_marieI don't know about this topic, so I'm just going to go to the next hand, and thank you so much for coming up. All right, Ian, it was Tony, right?

Ian MalcolmYeah, let's go down to Tony, and then we'll go to history.

@tonywakuuYeah, thanks, Ian. This is awesome. I appreciate it a lot. We talked about a few different things here. There's a bunch of smoking guns going on here, a lot of misquoting of scripture and things like that. And misquoting of these scripts were the same reason that many of that specific tribe got kicked out of Babylon to begin with.

@tonywakuuSo we should really look into those scriptures, make sure we understand them before we start misquoting them. For instance, the destruction of the temples, that is Luke 21. Someone came in and started a whole smoking gun about Luke 21 and kind of made it completely opposite of what its intentions were. There was also some misquotes in Matthew that were complete opposites because when Jesus talks about us praying, he tells us not to be repetitious.

@tonywakuuHe's actually talking about the Jews. He's talking about those who repeat themselves, those heathens that he actually had came down from heaven in God form. You know, that's where we get the quote of the word was God. Jesus actually says that I and the Father are one in John 10, 30, right? And to say, we can't say that he's Jewish just based on lineage because we know that

@tonywakuuWell, we know, right, we know David was begotten from, you know, the lineage to the left of history, right? And David begot Solomon, who begot Solomon's son, Rahobam. Rahobam was a pagan. Rahobam was not a Jew. Sure, he was born in Judea, so he can be considered Judean. Similar to Christ, he can be considered Judean. But none of those guys to the right of the lineage, none of them,

@tonywakuuwere religiously Jewish at all, starting with your main man, Solomon, the King Jew, well, other than David. David was a fantastic Jew. But Rehoboam was a pagan. He celebrated many debaucheries, and you guys know this. This is written in Kings. This is very well known throughout many religious spheres. On top of that, if we look at the...

@tonywakuuAnd in the Bible, it talks about the temple a lot and the construction and the architecture of the temple. And there's actually different sources online where they illustrate it and show us how it's explained throughout many different texts and how they explain it, I'm sure, in many Hebrew books. Jesus was only allowed on the outskirts.

@tonywakuuThese aren't... This doesn't make him a Jew. That just makes him a follower of Mosaic law. These are the laws of the land. That just makes him an obeyer, which he very much was. That doesn't make him a Jew. Only Jews were allowed on the inner side of the temple. There are no recounts of Jesus ever entering the inner side of the temple.

@tonywakuuThe only recounts that we have are, you know, he made it to the waning wall on the opposite side, from the complete opposite side, from the courts. He walked from the courts to the waning wall. which is, I believe, still up today. That's the wall that only Jews could enter because that's how you enter the inner quarters of the temple, right?

@tonywakuuWe also can say, or we also know that Jesus was not Jewish religiously because after his birth, his mother, there are no recounts of her entering the Great Baths, which are, it's part of Mosaic law, but only Jews would be able to enter the Great Baths. You're supposed to bathe for... The Disruptor, H1story Media,

@tonywakuuRepresented none of them practiced Judaism at all. None of them were religiously Jewish. So if there are any other things, I'm happy to explain why all these other things don't equal Jesus being Jewish rather than an obeyer. Most of the arguments are him obeying the law of the land rather than him actually being Jewish.

@tonywakuuSo if there are any other... Live accounts of any of the events. And I like this because I believe the last time that I was on a space like this, I was trying to bring to life the actual consequences of Jesus' death, what that means, how Jesus kind of rose, what the word was God means, where it comes from, and how all those things come into play with the miracles.

@tonywakuuand you know him being God in human form that's like you know he wasn't the last Jew he was the last God right and and part of of that prophecy quote-unquote prophecy I don't know if it's it's really a Christian prophecy is that when in John 3 16 when he gave his only begotten son that whosoever is to believe it's on him to not perish but have for everlasting life this means that whoever follows Jesus

@tonywakuuAs Jesus followed the Father shall have everlasting life. Now you can interpret that however you'd like. There are many different, you know, go to church if you want to figure out how, or go to temple or go to synagogue or whatever, go to mosque or whatever Muslims call it, if you want to figure out how you want to interpret this.

@tonywakuuBut these things are, you know, this isn't, this isn't a... It's something that's very pinpointed. It's a very wide multitude of different things. So I'm happy to talk about any other different oppositions that you have for Jesus being a Jew. There's no history other than Jews coming up and saying and misquoting different texts still to this day that he was a Jew.

@tonywakuuThere's just nothing. Thank you, Ian. Thank you, JoAnn. Thank you, Mandy. I appreciate the space and everything like that. Thanks.

@malleusigTony, can I jump in real quick? Just to ask a question. Yeah, go ahead. Go for it, Rabbi. Thanks. I agree with you in your broader statement. I also see no evidence that Jesus is whatever the hell the Jew is supposed to be these days. But to the claim that Mary was not Jewish because there's no record of her entering the ritual bath...

@malleusigThere are also no records in the New Testament of Jesus ever urinating or defecating. Are we thus to assume this was another of his miracles?

@tonywakuuThings that mammals do? Are we calling Jesus defecating and urinating a miracle?

@malleusigBecause your base assumption is that if it didn't get written down in the New Testament, it didn't happen.

@tonywakuuBut you're trying to equivocate Mosaic law with nature.

@malleusigI'm trying to point out to you that your reasoning is atrociously faulty in this case.

@tonywakuuLet me do a tangent real quick because there was actually one other thing. I just lost my train of thought there. Oh, man. Go ahead.

@malleusigYeah, no, I agree with you. Jesus is not Jewish. I mean, if you look at everything going on with Jesus, he comes from Galilee. Galilee was basically considered... The Disruptor, H1story Media, Psycho Mally, Proteus 5, 3 Witnesses

@malleusigMary didn't enter the ritual bath after giving birth to him and thus she couldn't have been Jewish just makes no sense. I'm all for good arguments. I'm all for people arguing from my side. But when somebody comes with an argument from my side that is a bad argument, it is one of the first things I call out because every bad argument we push can be used to push back and make it look like we're wrong.

@tonywakuuSo you're saying that Mary being kosher in every sense of the term in ancient times during the times of actual Mosaic law when Jews would be slaughtered for not obeying Mosaic law is a false equivocation?

@malleusigNo, I want you to listen very carefully to what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that not everything that happened to these people in these books was written down. It didn't, they didn't, it didn't write, they didn't write down when they sweated. They didn't write down when they... So you're saying that even though, even though that every recount of Jesus' birth was accounted for within the Bible... Tony, Tony, I'm trying to help you make a stronger case here.

@malleusigDon't get...

@proteusvxBut nor would anyone, nor would anyone expect such things to be written in Scripture either, though you could argue equally, right?

@malleusigExactly. Tony, come on. You've got to give me a second here, buddy, okay? You're trying to jump in because maybe you feel like you don't have a good case here, but I'm trying to help you, all right? Now, the reason why, the thing that I'm pointing out, and please let me point it out, don't be afraid of this, okay? The thing that I'm pointing out is that they don't write down everything these people do, okay?

@malleusigThere are plenty of things, even in Mosaic Law, That would have gone on. That didn't make anything. If you go by that argument, Herod was not a Jew. If you go by that argument, the Sanhedrin were not Jewish. Because their mother's trip to the ritual bath was also not documented.

@tonywakuuBut Herod's also a false equivocation because Herod was a convert into Judaism.

@malleusigSo what are you talking about? Tony, I love you, but you're not helping your case at all.

@tonywakuuYou're not making a case. Everything you're saying, you're comparing ancient rituals to natural things.

@malleusigThings that mammals do every day. My argument does not rest on any of these things being ancient rituals or natural processes. Tony, stop it. You're doing the thing. Don't make me call you out on this. Tony, don't be a goofball. Tony, come on. Behave.

@tonywakuuI see that's what you're doing.

@malleusigAll right? You can add how many and all you want, but that doesn't make you correct. If you don't listen, you're not going to learn anything. All right? Is that what you're doing? Are you learning? Hold on, buddy. They didn't write down every single thing these people did. Now, if anyone else believes that if they didn't write it down, it didn't happen, raise your hand.

@malleusigCan you explain exactly what they didn't write down? Moses never picked his nose because they didn't write it down in the book. Raise your hand.

@tonywakuuSo you're saying that we should believe all the prophecies within the book, or what are we saying? Tony, I'm saying... Are you saying the opposite?

@malleusigTony, I'm saying we've got to use common sense.

@tonywakuuI'm just asking a simple question.

@malleusigOkay, what's your question? Go ahead.

@tonywakuuSo I'm just wondering which side you're standing because you're kind of just making a circling argument with a bunch of false equivocations. You haven't listened to me.

Speaker 3You don't know.

@tonywakuuSo I'm asking you... Are you referring to everything that they write in the book as truthful? Are you saying that because it's not written in the book that we don't have to regard it as necessarily true or false?

@malleusigOkay, I'll explain to you what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that your argument rests on the premise that if it's not written in the book, it didn't happen. Yes? Yes or no?

@tonywakuuI would say everything from the religious standpoint, if it's not written in the book and it didn't happen.

@malleusigOnly the thing, you're on the standpoint that only the religion, if it didn't happen and it was a part of Mosaic law, then it didn't happen.

@tonywakuuYeah, such as Solomon owning, such as Solomon having 100 wives and Rahul Bam loving pornography.

@malleusigWas Solomon circumcised?

@tonywakuuIf he was Jewish, then yes, he was. Let's assume that. Where is it written in the book? Okay, that's what you're saying. Got it.

@malleusigWhere is it written in the book?

@natnewsnetworkYeah, so basically if you want to bring that as an argument, you have to point out different passages where it is actually pointed out, right? So if you bring up that Marie didn't have the Hebrew customs or the Jewish customs in that, You can't make every character into a special case, Tony.

@malleusigYou're saying you can't really equivocate with the divinity of Solomon, right?

@tonywakuuIt's explicitly stated. Where?

@tonywakuuSolomon's divinity?

@malleusigNo, where is it stated explicitly that he was circumcised?

@tonywakuuThat's something that can be equivocated because it's explicitly stated that he holds some sort of divinity.

@malleusigWhere is it stated that he was circumcised?

@tonywakuuSo are we talking that it has to stay... Tony, I'm not doing...

@malleusigThis isn't nuclear physics. All I'm doing is taking the same reason you applied to Mary and applying it to Solomon. We're also just going around in circles.

@natnewsnetworkThis is getting really tiring. Let's break it down.

Ian MalcolmSolomon also wasn't technically Jewish either. Let's mix things up completely and go to history, and then we will go over to discipline, or I'm sorry, decipher.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, but just because it's not written doesn't mean it didn't happen, right? Yeah, it's just not an argument. It's a logical fallacy here. Exactly. Thank you very much. And don't bring it up. Just don't bring it up. Not everything that is written down in the Bible, no. Let me point it otherwise. In the Bible, everything that is written is relevant to either the covenant people to religious customs pointing towards Jesus or being an example of what not to do, right?

@natnewsnetworkSo just because it is not written that Mary didn't have Jewish custom after birth care doesn't mean

@proteusvxThe idea of a litmus test or a psychic shibboleth. The very response to the utterance Jew has people walking on eggshells. Because Soren Kierkegaard once said, you know, what think ye of Christ? But today it seems to be what think ye of Jews, and the mere utterance of the word is serving as a functional thing today. That's how I'm seeing it.

@proteusvxI just, you know, it seems to be a label of privilege and convenience at most. I hate to reduce it to something that seems so simple, but maybe it is something that simple, because the notion is so vague. And everyone's made fine points. And Mandy, by the way, there's some levity here. Did you know your namesake is actually a hit song by Barry Manilow, who was, I think, a Jew?

@proteusvxBut you presented great. That was wonderful. It was an honor to be here to hear that.

@tonywakuuIf I may jump in while we're still on this topic. In Proverbs, it actually talks about King David being circumcised.

@proteusvxSorry, did you just say to jump me? Are you jumping me?

@tonywakuuYeah, sorry, sorry. It must be a little natural for me. But yeah, it actually talks about King David being born circumcised.

@malleusigWell, I just found out history was waiting for over an hour or three hours now, so maybe we should let someone else go.

@proteusvxThank you. And not only that, this man spoke as if he didn't hear a single word I said. Thank you, sir.

@joann_marieAll right, thank you so much, Proteus. He's already gone for it. Welcome. And thank you so much for your patience.

@h1storymediaOh, that's perfectly fine. Can you guys hear me okay?

@joann_marieYeah.

@h1storymediaOkay, cool. I was having issues a minute ago, so I had to recycle. I just want to make sure it sounds okay. It's not popping or anything crazy.

@joann_marieNope, you sound perfect.

@h1storymediaOkay, cool. So, well, first of all, the specific fallacy you guys were looking for a minute ago, that's called the argument from silence. I'll give you a perfect example. This is the fallacy that Muslims employ against Christians when they say, Oh, well, nowhere in the Bible does Jesus say that I am God and worship me.

@h1storymediaLike, that's an argument from silence. It's a fallacy precisely for that reason. I wouldn't go as far as calling it sophistry, because that kind of implies, like, deceptive persuasion tactics. I don't know if we could really go that far, but I mean, you know, fallacies are fallacies, right? Some people commit them accidentally.

@proteusvxIt's fine, but... That's exactly why I use the word... Sorry, my friend, that's exactly why I use the word sophistry.

@joann_marieLet's not chuck up to... Proteus, we were not interrupting a couple of minutes ago, and then you started doing it, so stop it.

@proteusvxI use the word fallacy with a purpose. Thank you.

@joann_marieAll right, stop interrupting now. Go for it, history.

@h1storymediaOkay, and I mean, I wasn't... I hear it from, you know, fake Christian evangelicals, from Christian Zionists, I hear it from...

@h1storymediaYou hear it from the pagan crowd and the atheist crowd and all these other people that want us to believe that Jesus was or is Jewish. They try and say, well, look, he clearly practiced Hanukkah. And it's like, oh, did he? Clearly? I keep hearing this claim again and again and again. And it rests entirely on John chapter 10, verses 22 to 23, where it says,

@h1storymediaThe Feast of Dedication

@h1storymediaIt doesn't say that he lit any lamps, recited any prayers, ate its foods. It doesn't say he treated it as worship. And so we can't go on and say that presence is celebration. We can't say that just being in a place means that you automatically agree with everything that's happening there. Walking through a place while a feast is happening is not the same thing as keeping the feast.

@h1storymediaIf the Gospels wanted us to believe that Jesus observed this feast the way that he observed other ones, they had a clear pattern for doing so. They tell us where he went up to Jerusalem for the various things that God actually commanded. They describe the setting. They describe his words about the day. They tell us what he did with it.

@h1storymediaThey tell us what he did before and what he did after. They give us all the context needed. They don't do any of that with the Feast of Dedication. John only locates him in the temple while the feast is happening. And from that, people go and say, oh, well, Jesus celebrated Hanukkah. There you go. There it is. Talk about an argument from silence.

@h1storymediaBut anyway, look at what he was actually doing in that chapter. The Pharisees actually gathered around him and they're demanding him. They're saying, you know, if you're the Christ or, you know, if you're the Messiah, tell us plainly. He answered them by pointing to his works. That's not a man that's joining a festival.

@h1storymediaThat is a confrontation. That's not an acceptance of what's going on. That's a whole confrontation. Jesus was also in Jerusalem while there were other activities happening around him. His presence

@h1storymediaIn a city, or in a particular place, doesn't mean that he endorsed everything that was happening. He drove demons out of people. That means that he was in the presence of demons. Are we supposed to believe that Jesus was accepting of demons? If we use John 10 the way that people use it for Hanukkah, we would literally have to say that Jesus endorsed everything that was happening in the temple.

@h1storymediaOr just, Jesus endorsed everything that happened everywhere that he went. It's ridiculous. It's stupid. Hanukkah commemorates the rededication of the Second Temple after the Maccabees recaptured it in 164. After Antiochus IV destroyed the place, Judas took it back and they held a celebration. And another thing to point out is that the famous story of the one day's oil lasting eight days, that happened later.

@h1storymediaThat doesn't... The Feast is post-biblical. It was a man-made, instituted tradition shaped later on by rabbinic Talmudic tradition. The temple that they rededicated is the same temple that was still standing in John 10. The one that Jesus said, destroy this temple in three days, I will raise it up. And John tells us that he met his body.

@h1storymediaHe cleansed that temple. For God's sake, he called it a den of robbers. He predicted that not one stone would be left on another. He was prophesying its destruction. And those words were fulfilled in AD 70, when it was destroyed. So the idea that he was walking through the portico in order to... Honor this weird rededication of a building that he judged, condemned, and destined for destruction.

@h1storymediaIt doesn't fit. It's ridiculous. And then people also say, well, oh, you know, people like to lean on the whole Festival of Lights language, and they say that, oh, you know, it's naturally the same thing, but it's not. Jesus said, I am the light of this world. He said, by the way, he said that in the temple as well. In a setting that, in the same kind of setting as previously.

@h1storymediaSo that doesn't mean that he was keeping Hanukkah. It means that he's taken the imagery of light onto himself. He's standing above every lesser light attached to that sanctuary. Which, by the way, works against the popular reading. So he's not, you know, he's not celebrating Hanukkah, guys. One more point. Hanukkah is not even one of the feasts that was given through Moses.

@h1storymediaIt's a later commemoration from the intertestamental period. And scripture is very careful about which days God actually commanded. It's also careful when it points out the things that Jesus either fulfills or reinterprets. And John 10 does neither of those things for Hanukkah. It just says that he happened to be there.

@h1storymediaLet me ask you guys this. This is the last thing I'll say. Let me ask you guys this. If you saw me, a Christian, outside of an abortion clinic, protesting the evil, you know, child-sacrificing to Moloch that goes on in there, would you look at that and say, oh, well, that clearly, clearly he stands in favor of abortion because he's there, right?

@h1storymediaHe's just there, so that means that he's clearly in favor of abortion. No, of course you wouldn't. If you have two brain cells attached to each other. And so anyway, that's all I wanted to say. Great job to Mandy. I really, really appreciated that earlier. You guys have done very well also dismantling some of the naysayers.

@h1storymediaAll of you guys, Veritas, Ian, JoAnn, all you guys. Thank you all you guys. And yeah, I've really enjoyed it.

@yitzhak32941934Yeah, this is very inaccurate.

@joann_marieIt's not your turn, but where were you, though?

Ian MalcolmWhere have you been? You're coming out from the wilderness. We're all very excited to see you.

@joann_marieIt's like you were even reading.

@yitzhak32941934But he's incorrect. He's trying to do mental gymnastics, and he's working overtime.

@natnewsnetworkHave you been to fat camp?

@natnewsnetworkNo slurs. It's not your turn, right? JoAnn just said it's not your turn.

Ian MalcolmBut we will come back to Yitz. We're going to try and respect the orders. Lots of people have been waiting a long time. We'll go to Decipher, then we're going to go to Mr. Durrell.

@h1storymediaJust real quick, thank you Ian for the space. I'll definitely stick around because I want to hear about my mental gymnastics. Thank you.

Ian MalcolmLots of love, History. Always such a pleasure to have you here. And I just want to thank everybody that have, like History, been so, so, so patient. I think he's been up here for probably two hours. And so certainly do stay up. And we'll keep kind of cycling people through as best we can. But let's go to, like I said, Decipher, and then we will go to Darrell.

@discipher432Thank you, sir. Yeah, I'm not a pagan or racist or anything of the sort, right? I'm a former Christian, gone agnostic, more a philosopher, if you will, but not the destroyed bureaucratic trying to revisit and revitalize like Heraclitus and such, right? So, Veritas, I just had a couple questions so I can better understand your position and worldview here.

@discipher432What is the shape of the earth by your understanding?

@natnewsnetworkI'm not sure what that has to do with Jesus.

@discipher432It has to do with the Bible and reality, so I would love to know.

@joann_marieI don't think that's the topic of the space now.

@discipher432I mean, you can't say...

@joann_marieI mean, I believe in the Bible and...

@discipher432I believe in a biblical earth, yes. Okay. And I don't know...

@discipher432Could one of you guys read some Bible verses for me? Because they were addressed earlier, but kind of got danced around. Could somebody read John 4.22? Could he please?

@natnewsnetworkThat's the entry level. Have you been here all the time?

@discipher432Yeah, yeah. So you think your white Aryan Chad Jesus basically is the situation? You're like a white, black Hebrew Israelite.

@malleusigCan I interject? I don't know how relevant it is pulling up something someone believes on a completely different topic when we're talking about whether Jesus was a Jew.

@discipher432Yeah, you know exactly why that is brought up, right?

@malleusigUnless it's something comically... 4 plus 4 equals 7, right? I don't think there's a place for this in this discussion. Okay, so there is kind of... Go ahead, Veritas.

@natnewsnetworkCan you name the logical fallacy that is the basis of your question?

@discipher432The logical fallacy, the basis of my question, which one? Asking you to read John 4.22 or that you're a flat earther or what question?

@natnewsnetworkYeah, yeah, exactly. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Let's go to John.

@discipher432It's a pretty easy thing to gauge, right? Like when we had that eclipse a few days ago, You can actually see how it was overlapped on the mirror.

@joann_marieThis isn't a flat earth space, Decipher. I believe in Glover for what it's worth.

Speaker 3It's not like we all believe in this.

@malleusigI get it, JoAnn. I have a reason. Hold on, hold on. Can I just tell you really quickly? What you need to know, like Decipher, hold on a second, right? The important thing to remember is this. This is literally worse than Yitz. Okay? So what I'd recommend is you take... Stock of yourself and your arguments. Find something you believe that relates somehow to the topic of the space.

@malleusigRaise your hand and come back with that.

@discipher432Oh, I got plenty, right? Jesus was the original trust the plan, Goy.

@malleusigI don't even understand what you're doing now. This doesn't make any sense.

@discipher432I'm telling you something more relevant to the situation since you can't appreciate just trying to gauge someone's ability to...

Ian MalcolmSo, Decipher... Do you have your coffee black or do you have it with milk or do you have it with sugar? Do you not have it at all? Do you pour it on yourself? If so, is it in your lap? What happens when you get your coffee?

@discipher432I like my coffee out of my espresso maker with a little bit of honey, baby.

Ian MalcolmOkay, now do you see how I've wasted everybody's time for a minute or so by talking about something that's completely irrelevant that nobody cares about? Because I didn't care about your answer at all for what it's worth.

@discipher432Someone's capacity to judge whether or not the earth is flat kind of gives credence to whether or not they have capacity to read and understand scripture and take them seriously.

@natnewsnetworkJust for clarification here, Ian, sorry to interject here. I have a master's in Environmental Engineering. I think I'm way more versed in every single aspect of physics than you are. I'm a long-range photographer and I'm a long-range drone operator. So yeah, try harder, right? But if you want to talk about John 422, we can do that if you like.

@discipher432Well, if your rationale for that is that you just believe the Jews that they're talking about there are actually the whites and Jesus was a white Aryan child, then I'll skip that. I'll just say that Jesus was the original trust, the plan, right? And it was made for the Jews because they got fucked up by the Romans. They had no capacity for military retaliation, right?

@discipher432So history is peppered with Jew versus Jew activities, right? Just we have today, Abad wrestling, trying to wrestle control from B'nai B'rith, right? The Pharisees, the Sadducees. Like, Christianity was a little Jewish sect bifurcating from the dominant one at the time, squashed, and then reformatted by Paul for the Goy.

@discipher432Like, I don't know. Like, why do Jews fast on the 9th of Tevet for Simon Peter? Do you ever think about that? Why is it that

Ian MalcolmYeah, I'm not sure how you come up with that it is commemorating Peter.

@natnewsnetworkThat's what the Jews like to say.

@discipher432I've seen several rabbis saying that, right? They amongst themselves discuss how, like, you guys don't even understand, bro.

@natnewsnetworkThe ninth of Tavet is the Yahrzeit, right, which is the Yiddish term for anniversary or passing of Ezra the scribe and Nehemiah. I'm not sure if these rabbis don't even know their own holidays or in which telegram group that was passed on, but that's definitely not according to Jewish customs.

@h1storymediaBy the way, why are you listening to Jews anyways?

Ian MalcolmIf you're stumbling over your words and then you get to a point where you go, well, you guys just don't get it anyway. You guys start talking first.

@discipher432Right, okay, so... White Hebrew Israelite Flat Earthers No, no, no.

Ian MalcolmSo now what you're going to do is you're going to create a straw man that has no place or bearing on the wide bevy of speakers that are up here.

@discipher432I mean, listening to this entire space, honestly... Can you tell me...

Ian MalcolmI'm completely serious with what I'm going to suggest, and I'm going to try and make this a life recommendation. If you are communicating with people and you sound like this, it is really difficult to take most of the things you say seriously because you kind of sound emotionally depressed. And I don't know what else to tell you.

@discipher432Understood, buddy. So how's this? I have one final question and then I'll leave you guys to fiddle with.

Ian MalcolmOkay, try and inject a little bit of energy like you don't hate everything about your existence. I'm trying to help you here.

@discipher432Because I'm the one who's like simp towards all this shit.

Ian MalcolmBecause I'm the one.

@discipher432I'm not saying you are, Ian. I actually enjoy your dialogue. I'm not trying to come at you, brother. I'm trying to get you guys to just think outside the box.

Ian MalcolmI don't know if you're sitting down or if you're laying down or if you're hanging upside down. Stand up. Stand up in all sincerity. Stand up and move your body around. You can do it. And then when you deliver the next thing, don't deliver it like you're telling someone that your favorite teddy bear just got thrown down.

Ian MalcolmVeritas, you were friends with that JoAnna account, right? You remember her?

@discipher432White nationalist little account there. What was it? Dufria Nord, right? So why is it that her account ended up being from Israel and she pushes the identical rhetoric to you? White power shit, white Jesus, like all the above. Basically Dustin Nemos nonsense, right? So if she is an asset of Israel... and you have the identical rhetoric, does that make you an asset or does that make you just like kind of tool, I guess?

@natnewsnetworkThat makes you engaging in logical fallacies as an argument.

@discipher432How is that a logical fallacy? Your rhetoric is identical to hers. She works for Aspera and the Mossad saying the identical things as you. So what is their goal? Why are they paying her to do that? Do you get it? Do you get the disconnect?

@natnewsnetworkYeah, yeah. Stalin loved his coffee with a little honey. So you're a Stalinist?

@discipher432No, I don't give a fuck about Stalin or any of that shit, bro.

@natnewsnetworkDo you understand why he said that, right? Yeah, you understand the argument here, right? Or the equivalency here?

@discipher432I don't even understand what you're trying to say.

@natnewsnetworkSo just because someone turns out at some point to be a subversive, right? A fat plant or Mossad or whatever. And he uses a rhetoric to get involved into group chats, be invited into spaces to gather intel or whatever. It doesn't mean that they actually believe in what they are saying. They are just very good actors. And that's what they are trained to be.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, that's kind of my point.

@natnewsnetworkNo, your point is that just because she regurgitated what I think, that makes me a plant.

@discipher432No, no, my point is a lot of these positions that you have are just like completely illogical. There was the movement of the Black Panthers.

@natnewsnetworkSo the FBI decided that they wanted to infiltrate the Black Panthers. So they took some Blacks that were

@natnewsnetworkAligned with a completely different ideology, but they were good in disguising themselves and pretending to be Black Panthers. So they infiltrated the movement, right? That is called co-interpro. That doesn't mean that the person actually believed in what they were talking about. It is just an infiltration. That happens in a world.

@natnewsnetworkAnd if someone turns out to be a plant, that means that this movement that they are trying to subvert and infiltrate is dangerous to their narrative. It is dangerous, so they need to infiltrate it so they can control it from within or at least gather information. What does that tell you about what I am believing?

Ian MalcolmWe have over a half dozen people that are on the panel already waiting for an opportunity to speak. So I don't want to cut off Decipher. We've kind of gone down a bunch of different tangents. I think probably the only way to make this productive so that lots of people get to provide their opinion. So and Decipher, you can be the first.

Ian MalcolmWe'll go two minutes. You can say whatever you want about either the subject matter or you can just say that you like. Pink Bananas, whatever it is, right? You can pick and choose how you utilize your time as productive or as much of a waste as you want to select. But the choice is yours. It is yours alone. You get two minutes, then we're going to go to the next person.

Ian MalcolmWe'll keep that going until we get to some point where maybe we can have a little bit more of a roundtable because otherwise we're never going to get through these hands.

@discipher432Yeah, fair enough. I would just say, you know, like I've been saying, this is a dialectic controlled setup. that has everybody retarded arguing over fabricated Sky Daddy first century Marvel comics. It's really silly. We have very serious real world concerns that arguing over if they're the synagogue of Satan or the father of the devil is kind of retarded and like makes us look dips us in crazy sauce when we should be addressing more substantial issues such as the Keynesian economic slave system that they've enveloped us in.

@discipher432And The Food Crisis Coming Up

@discipher432Now, you guys are good-hearted, good intention, but there is a lot of fuckery afoot, and there is a lot of deception involved, right? And it has us all fighting and divided again over retarded nonsense. So, I hope you guys have a lovely night.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, that were great tips at the end. Definitely be prepared, right? Stock up, build communities, get involved in local politics. Definitely some things that you can do to be prepared. Why I bring up this topic, and I think Ian does as well, is make people aware what the theological background of the issues that you talked about is.

@natnewsnetworkWhy is this happening? You talked about how it's happening, the instances. And we're talking about the mindset that is behind that. Why that needs to be exposed is they convinced a shit ton of people that they are the eternal victims, that they are the covenant people, and they gained a lot of sympathy in a country that holds basically unlimited

@natnewsnetworkSo exposing them and exposing their lies and exposing how they appropriated an ancestry and a scripture and basically being the witness of the covenant, that is very important because that's the foundation of their power. So that's why we bring that up.

@natnewsnetworkAnd it's not the only topic we are talking about, right? We're talking about a whole lot of shit, especially in, has a very diverse channel talking about every single topic through geopolitics, religion, demographic changes, whatever, right? So, yeah.

Ian MalcolmWell, we certainly try, and we got lots of people, so we'll keep kind of moving through to try and respect all those individuals that have been waiting. Let's go to Darrell, and then we will go to Mr. Wolf Rayette.

Speaker 4Yeah, thanks for having me, Ian. And just to stay on topic, is Jesus a Jew? Oh, my cat's got to zoom me so hard right now. It's so funny right now. This dude, he's just, what are you doing, baby? He's just going in.

@natnewsnetworkI'm sorry, I recognize who that was. And he's an absolute degenerate. He turned out to be... Grooming, a little Iranian girl tried to convince her to do OnlyFans. He got exposed, went underground and now comes up with some fake account. So I booted him. Sorry.

@malleusigReally?

@natnewsnetworkYes.

@joann_marieAll right. Let's go to the next hand. Wolf, go for it. Welcome.

@wolfrayet2025Alright, I'm going to offer myself as a piñata. So, here we go. Jesus, the question of him being a Jew. Yes, he was a Jew. But I say this as, I don't say he was a Jew. I can only say that it is with high probability, the highest probability, that he was a Jew. And here is why. We don't have a record. We don't have first century attestation of his life.

@wolfrayet2025Jesus never wrote anything. We don't have first century testimony other than the later testimony which came in with Paul. Paul never mentions the virgin birth, for instance, in his letters or in his epistles. or in Romans or in any of his writings, he does not mention the early aspects of his life. Now, Matthew and Luke, I believe Matthew and Luke provide genealogies that can only, and they come later, post, what, 70 AD, past 70 AD, they provide, Mark comes in, he writes his gospel.

@wolfrayet2025One can only infer from Mark that he was a Jew. Matthew provides a genealogy. Luke provides a genealogy. And both of them, even though their genealogies contradict, it doesn't matter because none of them were eyewitnesses to Jesus. None of the authors, even Paul, ever met Jesus. Now, with Paul, there is a controversy with Paul.

@wolfrayet2025He had a beef with Peter and James. I believe it's inferred in the Book of Acts and in the Book of Galatians where Paul has a confrontation with them in terms of Peter and James. James being the brother of Jesus, who was a strict Second Temple Jew and who wanted church followers or followers of Jesus The Disruptor, H1story Media, Psycho Mally, Proteus 5, 3 Witnesses

@wolfrayet2025Matthew, of course, if you read Matthew, where does it say that Jesus was a goy? And then, of course, here we go. Another thing, if you look at the Gospels, Matthew in particular, Matthew relies on... Prophecy

@wolfrayet2025For me, I give the highest probability that Jesus was a Jew, and that's if he even existed. There are scholars now who are beginning to turn around. They're taking a mythicist position. If you look at the scholars and the scholarship, I don't know, Veritas, if you've debated any scholars on this matter. Any New Testament scholars?

@wolfrayet2025But if you have, I'd like to know because and I'm sure the room would be interested in knowing who you debated on this because New Testament scholars will, I don't know of any who claim that Jesus was not a Jew. And you go to the best scholars, the very best scholars, will tell you Jesus was a Jew. And when I talk about scholars, I'm talking about guys

@wolfrayet2025All right. And, you know, these are people, they're studied. They're not engineers, per se, but they reverse engineer ancient texts. So, you know, for me, it's quite obvious to me that if Jesus ever existed, the probability is that he is a Jew. And, you know, keep in mind, when you talk about When you talk, you have to keep in mind that we don't have anything, any authoritative writings from Jesus, no eyewitnesses, nothing.

@wolfrayet2025We start getting things 30, 40 years later from Paul and then people claiming to be apostles, but they're not. And then further on, you got the apocryphal writings and you've got the Nakamati texts, which are written 200 years after the fact. All right, so to say with any certainty that Jesus was a goy, that's laughable.

@natnewsnetworkNobody said that Jesus was a goy, right?

@wolfrayet2025Well, no, I'm sorry. That's my favorite of speech. That's me. That's me. So don't take that literally. I mean, that Jesus was anything but a Jew. All right, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense in the Christology. It doesn't make sense in the theology. It just doesn't.

@natnewsnetworkNo? What's the difference between Judaism and Christianity? And what's the difference between Judaism and ancient Hebrewism, Abrahamic belief?

@wolfrayet2025Well, what's the difference? Well, you know... First, you didn't even address what I just said. You're asking me a question.

@joann_marieThis was literally the first Christian, so he's not a Jew.

@wolfrayet2025Okay, so the first Christians didn't appear until after Christ died. And even then, if we go by the earliest writings of the church fathers, there was a huge diversity of opinion or philosophy.

@wolfrayet2025I think it was Irenaeus who coined the term Christianity. One of the church followers. I'm assuming, I think it was Irenaeus who used the word Christianity. And even then, these were followers of the teachings of Christ. And those teachings were interpreted by various groups After the destruction of the temple, there grew a diversity of belief.

@wolfrayet2025For instance, Christ was supposed to return. Everybody expected Christ to return soon after death. Paul was always urging followers to be prepared to abstain from sex and marriage

@wolfrayet2025Christ's Return. Well, Christ didn't return. After the destruction of the temple, they were left confused. Well, which path should we follow? Should we wait for Jesus? Are we to continue practicing the law? Not practice the law? You know, what are we going to do? So there was this big problem with the early church. Well, not the early church, but with the early followers.

@joann_marieWell, please send it soon, because we do have a lot of hands and a lot of requests.

@wolfrayet2025Okay, all right, all right.

@thelevantinemanMaybe before, sorry, before, Wolf, maybe you can define to us what is a Jew? What's the definition of a Jew before, you know, moving forward? Do you have a definition of what a Jew is?

@wolfrayet2025Well, a Jew is one who, well, a Jew... is one who abides by, well, at that time, they would have to be, they would have had to follow the Torah, of course. They would have had to been born into the sect. They would have to have been circumcised. I know of no Jew that wasn't. And I would, and of course, one of the things that Christ is,

@wolfrayet2025The law was to be fulfilled. And, you know, basically followers of the Jewish law.

@natnewsnetworkWhich law exactly?

@thelevantinemanThen Jesus wasn't a Jew. According to your definition and what we have, a whole movement that is based on Christ,

@thelevantinemanSo meaning that, by definition, then Jesus wasn't a Jew, right? Otherwise, why would there be a whole movement created that is different completely and actually the opposite of what the Jews used to say and do?

@wolfrayet2025Well, he starts off as a Jew, and what everybody else does after that is he was crucified as a Jew.

@thelevantinemanWhy would they crucify him if he was such a good Jew? This is what doesn't make sense at all.

@wolfrayet2025Well, of course it doesn't make sense, but that's the thing.

@malleusigI have to jump in and correct something. Hold on. He wasn't crucified as a Jew. He was crucified as the king of the Jews.

Speaker 3There's a difference.

@natnewsnetworkTo be precise, he was crucified as a non-Roman, right? Because only non-Romans were crucified.

@wolfrayet2025Right, but according to the biblical text, he was crucified. I got your point.

@malleusigIt didn't say, here's Jesus, the Jew. It said, here's Jesus, king of the Jews.

@wolfrayet2025All right, king of the Jews. Okay, fine. So, I don't know. I don't think Jews... Jews are given titles as a king of the Jews loosely if they weren't following...

@joann_marieIt was to mock him.

@thelevantinemanExactly, it was to mock him. He wasn't the king of the Jews.

@malleusigIt wasn't like they all agreed he was actually the king of the Jews as they crucified him. I think this should be easy for you to get.

@wolfrayet2025So where does prophecy come in? If Jesus was a fulfillment of prophecy... He would have to come from the lineage of David, no? Yes, of course.

@h1storymediaIf Jesus was Jewish, then why didn't he... Was David a Jew? If Jesus was Jewish, then why didn't he agree with... Why didn't Jesus just go along with everything that the Pharisees did and taught? Why did he go directly against them and condemn them if he was one of them?

@malleusigThere's an important thing that has been made here, okay? We've got to make sure everyone who comes up understands this, okay? Before you start talking nonsense, right? Jews, as a distinction exists today, did not exist in the Hebrew world outside of a small group of Pharisees from which all of the current day Jews ideologically and they tell themselves ethnically descend.

@malleusigOkay? Jesus was a Hebrew, yes. He was an Israelite, technically, yes. Was he a Jew? Fuck no. All right? He didn't wear a yarmulke. He didn't have a big nose. He didn't walk around with a lactose intolerance. He didn't have an olive oil allergy. He was not Polish. Therefore, he was not a Jew.

@wolfrayet2025So why ask if he was a Jew in the first place?

@malleusigBecause there are people that will come on here, especially Jews, who will try and tell you that he was.

@thelevantinemanExactly, because the Jews are trying to steal him from us.

@wolfrayet2025All right, so he was an adherent of the law of Moses then. Okay, so he couldn't be anything else other than a member of that tribe.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, and basically, what is written in the Moor of Moses that you should not add to scripture, right? That's exactly what Judaism is about, right? It's addition to scripture, the teachings of the elder. It is a complete workaround, basically, on how to trick God. So it has nothing to do with Hebrewism anymore. Did Jesus uphold and continue the law of Moses?

@natnewsnetworkJust one more sentence.

@h1storymediaDid Jesus uphold the... Sorry, Veritas.

@natnewsnetworkYes, that wasn't the only spit, right? There were among the Judean people... Many heterodox believers, right? You not only had the Pharisees, but also the Sadducees and of course the Essenes, which Josephus himself, as I mentioned earlier, described as real descendants of the Judahites. And they completely rejected the teachings of the elders.

@natnewsnetworkThey were living by the Torah, yes. But they rejected everything that came from Temple Judaism. So there were many splits and Christianity was not the first split. Many people rejected actually the teachings of the Pharisees.

@wolfrayet2025All right, so then we have to continue.

@h1storymediaDid Jesus uphold the law of Moses? Or did Jesus destroy the law of Moses? Did he uphold or extend the law of Moses? Or did he fulfill the law of Moses?

@wolfrayet2025Well, Jesus implored everyone to follow. Jesus implored his disciples to follow the law. That's in Matthew 27.

@mandyarthurWas Moses a Jew? Was Moses a Jew? Or does the word... Or does that word come from Judah, which was later? So Abraham and Moses could not have been Jews. So if Jesus says, before Abraham was, I am, then how in the hell is Jesus a Jew, my friend?

@wolfrayet2025Okay, so it's a play on words. I mean, did he follow Abrahamic law or Noahide laws? He urged his disciples.

@joann_marieOh my god, they already replied to this. Well, we have a lot of hands and I also want Rabbi to play a commercial, so just land it in the next 20 seconds so that we can move on, okay?

@joann_marieGo for it, Will.

Speaker 3Okay, so...

@wolfrayet2025Okay, so in any case, I don't see him as being Gentile. I mean, he could not be anything other than...

@natnewsnetworkI mean, you could argue... Why would anyone consider him to be Gentile when he was upholding the Mosaic Law and was a Judahite? That wouldn't qualify him at all as a Gentile.

@wolfrayet2025All right, so then what is a Jew then?

@natnewsnetworkTell me. We broke that down like two hours.

@wolfrayet2025Okay. All right. Well, I missed a lot of it. But the thing is, to say that he was not part of that religious sect of Judaism, it doesn't wash. That's not the claim that's being made.

@malleusigThe claim is not that he was not a part of Judaism.

@wolfrayet2025Help me out and I apologize. What is the claim that's being made?

@malleusigThe claim is made that he's a Jew, which he is very clearly not.

@wolfrayet2025He wasn't. Alright, so to me, looking at the word Jew, he was.

@malleusigThe definition is not yours to decide.

@wolfrayet2025Okay, but I agree with it.

@malleusigCongratulations. Crazy people believe a lot of things.

@wolfrayet2025All right, he's, you know, with the highest, but I say this with probability. Let's put it this way. Not with certainty. Not with certainty. And nobody should speak with certainty when it comes to Jesus' early life. As I said, we have no writings, no attestation, nothing.

@malleusigWe don't have to worry about his early life. That's not a part of the, that's not in contention. Well, then we shouldn't make such absolute claims. Do we have writings? Do we have writings from... We have infinite Jews coming in our timelines trying to gaslight us poorly by saying, Oh, how can you dislike Jews? Jesus was a Jew.

@malleusigYeah, yeah, yeah. Gotcha. And like, it doesn't make any fucking sense. All right. Jesus was not a Jew. He was not. He was not. Hold on, dude. He wasn't fucking Woody Allen. Okay. He was not Benjamin Netanyahu. He wasn't Golda Meir. He wasn't anything resembling. Any of the people that come to us today and claim to be Jews, they share nothing.

@malleusigThey share nothing genetically, they share nothing linguistically, because the version of Hebrew they speak today would be considered an abomination and a mockery of their holy language, were they to go back in time 2,000 years and try and speak to an actual Hebrew. They would be stabbed, okay? There's nothing. Do you or does someone you know suffer from irritability, anxiety, difficulty trusting others?

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Ian MalcolmI love some Rabbi [guest] humor. It is in a league of its own. It is a thing unlike any other thing that I've experienced. Yes, soap, something to fear. I like all the subtle little references that are in there. The fear of showering, social ostracization, persistent but gentle nudging.

@malleusigMy favorite is uncomfortable erections at family events.

@yitzhak32941934It was pretty lame. That's what it was. Now, I did want to respond because I have to go soon.

Ian MalcolmDo you like soap, just for what it's worth? I've got to ask.

@yitzhak32941934Not in that context. But the point is that everything Wolf said was correct. Everything History and [guest] said and Mandy... And perhaps Veritas as well is incorrect. I mean, for one, number one.

@natnewsnetworkI almost felt excluded.

@yitzhak32941934Number one, Hanukkah is indeed mentioned in, I believe, the book of John. You know what's not mentioned, though? Christmas. There was no mention whatsoever of anyone celebrating Christmas at any time during Jesus' lifetime. Another thing is that... Why would that be?

@natnewsnetworkWhy would that be?

@yitzhak32941934Because there was no Christianity at the time. Do you think the first Jewish followers of Jesus called themselves Christians? I very much doubt that.

@h1storymediaWait, wait, hold on. You called me out specifically. Okay, so now you're inviting us to have a conversation. So let's talk about Hanukkah.

@yitzhak32941934Yes, everything, the miracle of the oil, for example. That happened exactly as a result.

@h1storymediaShow me in John chapter 10 where it says that Jesus celebrated Hanukkah, the Feast of Dedication. Show me the verse.

@yitzhak32941934It says that, I believe, I'd have to look it up, but it says that he was in the Feast of Dedication. That's what it is. There's no mention of Easter, no mention of Christmas.

@h1storymediaOkay, wait, hold on. Don't run from the topic. Don't run from the topic. Show me where in John chapter 10 verses 22 to 23 where it says that Jesus celebrated the Feast of Dedication.

@yitzhak32941934Go. Yeah, I'm not the New Testament scholar. I don't read the New Testament, but you can ask any scholar. I'll tell you why, but you can deduce such things. Jesus was Jewish. He had a bush, for example.

@h1storymediaOkay, hold on. Yes, of course. Okay, so now you have to explain... What [guest] said isn't correct. Hold on.

Ian MalcolmOut of curiosity, Yitz, what do you think... History, I apologize. Yitz, what do you think Jesus looked like since you said he looked Jewish? And what are you basing this on?

@yitzhak32941934Well, he definitely didn't look like a... A blonde hair and blue eyes like a viking. No, no, no.

@malleusigDid Jesus have rhinoplasty?

@yitzhak32941934Say again?

@malleusigDid Jesus get rhinoplasty?

@yitzhak32941934That is a stereotypical stereotype and stigma. Hang on, hang on.

Ian MalcolmYou said that he wasn't blonde hair and blue eyes, and I get that that would certainly be a phenotype not linked to Jews, but there are also a lot of non-Jewish people that have non-blonde hair and non-blue eyes, right?

@yitzhak32941934Yeah, well, as he's always... They look more like Clint Eastwood or Woody Allen. The Jesus of faith can be black, Korean, anything, but not the historical Jesus.

@natnewsnetworkDid you know that more women in Israel have a rhinoplasty than there are Jewish women?

@yitzhak32941934No, that's incorrect. As I mentioned, in the Middle Ages, 40% of Jewish women had a rhinoplasty.

@natnewsnetworkThere are less in Israel. There was a study. I read that. I was surprised myself.

@yitzhak32941934In the Middle Ages, Christian anti-Semites started coming up with the concept that we had big noses to characterize us, to make us... A concept?

@joann_marieNot based in reality?

@malleusigJews were literally cutting their own women's noses off for... No, no. Yes. Okay, Yitz.

@h1storymediaLet's go back to the... Wait, hold on, Yitz. Stop running from the... Because you made a logical claim, right? Now you have to show me how you're making the leap from Jesus being present at a place to Jesus celebrating the Feast of Dedication. You have to connect those dots.

@yitzhak32941934Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Easy, easy. It's like, for example, Pesach, the Last Supper. Easy. It's Passover, for example, because Jesus was, he was Jewish.

@h1storymediaOkay, I'm glad you brought those up. Okay, wait, I'm glad you brought those up, because the New Testament authors very clearly tell us that, yes, those things were observed by Jesus. So why did they not do the same thing with the Feast of Dedication?

@yitzhak32941934You make the connection, it's an assumption, and there's no reason to disregard it. Oh, it's an assumption!

@h1storymediaWhat's he, Hungarian? What's he, Japanese? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on, wait, wait. Did you just make an assumption? Is that what you just said?

@yitzhak32941934Well, he wasn't Islamic. He wasn't Japanese. Was he an Eskimo? Is Jesus an Eskimo?

@h1storymediaThat's not what I asked. That's not what I asked. I asked, did you make an assumption based off John chapter 10, verses 22 to 23, that Jesus being present in the temple necessarily means that he celebrated it? Did you make that assumption?

@yitzhak32941934It's common sense. Every Jew at the time celebrated it. Oh, it's common sense. Listen, you're getting hung up on... Why did you crucify him? No, I'm not getting hung up.

@h1storymediaYou're getting hung up.

@yitzhak32941934We did not. The Romans, Tacitus, you can read the Roman historian... I just want to point this out. Wait, wait, hold on.

@joann_marieI just want to point this out to everybody in the space right now.

@h1storymediaThat Yitz literally admitted to making an assumption that Jesus celebrated Hanukkah. It's not in the text. He made an assumption. He admitted it.

@yitzhak32941934It's mentioned in the text. It's mentioned in the text. That's all you need to know.

@h1storymediaOh, it's mentioned that he celebrated it?

@yitzhak32941934He was a Jewish freedom fighter against the Romans?

@h1storymediaNo, no, no, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Show me, no, no, no, Yitz, show me in the text where it says that Jesus celebrated Hanukkah. Go ahead, please.

@yitzhak32941934So many in the text, well, he didn't.

@h1storymediaSee, that's an argument from silence. That's called a fallacy. That's a fallacy, sir. That's an argument from silence.

@yitzhak32941934The burden of proof is on you. Yeah, well, at least it's mentioned, okay? As I said, Christmas and Easter are not mentioned.

@h1storymediaNo, it's not mentioned. It's not mentioned.

@thelevantinemanBut Christmas was Happy Birthday Jesus. He wasn't resurrected yet for Easter to be mentioned. Or Christmas. What's wrong with you, Yitz?

@malleusigListen, I've had about enough of this anti-Semitic nonsense. Now, if you are not going to get your act together, I'm really going to lose my patience.

Ian MalcolmGo ahead, [guest].

@yitzhak32941934Go ahead. Go ahead. Here's the truth.

@natnewsnetworkYou would have us believe that Jesus was an alien? It's okay.

@malleusigI'm sick of the Jew hate. I'm sorry, Veritas. Every time he's come here, he just spews Jew hatred, anti-Semitism, Holocaust denial. There's no end to it.

@natnewsnetworkYitz, can you explain to me how Jews handle theological disputes among their own people? Do they have something like a special court system that handles these things?

@yitzhak32941934No, not really, especially not in the Reform community. You decide for these matters something that's theological?

@natnewsnetworkThe Pharisees were a reform community? Are you actually saying that the Pharisees were a reform community?

@yitzhak32941934No, no, no. I'm saying my community today. But here's the thing. Here's the deal. Anything theological that is not law is called Haskapah.

@natnewsnetworkHow would Pharisees at that time handle Jewish theological disputes?

@yitzhak32941934If you had a dispute, you would bring it to the Sanhedrin at the time. Why didn't they bring Jesus? Well, listen, listen. The New Testament says one thing. As Wolf said, we don't know if we can trust the text and what it says. I'm looking at history, the historical Jesus. There was nothing wrong with him at all. I embrace him as a philosopher, per se.

@yitzhak32941934I believe the book of John, were threatened by an anti-Semite, perhaps a Roman or Greek. That's why it's very hostile. That's why it paints Pilate under a good light and paints us under a negative light. But here's the deal. Jesus himself might have been from the Pharisees. He literally said that the Pharisees sit in the seat of Moses.

@yitzhak32941934Do as they do, not as they say, but do as they do. So clearly... He believed in Talmudic Judaism, Biblical Judaism, I would call it. You can't understand the New Testament without Judaism.

@malleusigThis is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Ian MalcolmI had enough with Jesus believing Talmudic Judaism. That's insane.

Ian MalcolmYitz, I am very glad that you're back, but we're going to make sure to spread the microphone around a little bit. You had a lot of time, so we'll come back to you. Let's go to the Disruptor.

@yitzhak32941934Well, it's okay, Ian. I'm going to leave.

@h1storymediaI just want to point something out just real quick before you move on, just 20 seconds or so. Yitz, literally, I asked him to make the actual claim. He couldn't make a claim. He couldn't prove his claim. He literally admitted that he made an assumption about what he stated. There is no proof in the text that Jesus... Shut up.

@h1storymediaPass over. There is no proof in the text that Jesus celebrated the Feast of Dedication, yet is literally admitted that he's assuming that, he made an assumption, and that's all that needs to be said.

@yitzhak32941934And there's no proof in the text that he was Hungarian instead of being Jewish, I thought.

@malleusigWhich nobody said yet. You're literally arguing with nobody.

@malleusigIf I was a host...

@malleusigThis is an instant disqualification from me, but because I'm a guest here, I'm being polite with you. This is me being gentle with you, yes.

@yitzhak32941934You have no sway here, so that's good. You're not the host.

Ian MalcolmRabbi has all the sway, and if he tells me to kick you out, I'm going to kick you out, yes.

@malleusigThank you so much for coming up, Jetson. I'm really happy that your urbanization on stage is over.

Ian MalcolmLet's go to Isaiah

@iwashington63 years old. My name is Isaiah Washington, which is Hebrew. But I do not walk around saying I'm Hebrew because I've taken on the name of Isaiah. We have people among us that have been called, I don't know, anything from I don't know. Shit, pick one.

@iwashingtonAshkenazi.

@iwashingtonI don't know. It could go on and on and on. But at the end of the day, no, Jesus was not a Jew because the word didn't exist. He was Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of God, Yahshua, right? But I find it interesting that a group of people, whoever they are, whomever they are, can keep changing the narratives. There's over 450 to 900 translations of this incredible folklore called the Bible.

@iwashingtonIt's all designed to be from the King James Version to confuse. This is whoever these people are, wherever they came from. They're extremely zealot. That's Yiddish, right? of becoming anything and anyone, anywhere, any place, at any time, and they hold, give no quarter. They never stop with the lies. Robin Maxwell, I grew up on his books, McGraw and Hill.

@iwashingtonNothing but lies, nothing but revisionist history, nothing that will give us, as now Americans, anything to hold on to, to unify. There's a reason for that. If I were whoever these people are, I would be threatened too. I would be paranoid too. But the problem I have as a 63-year-old Isaiah Washington, the absolute arrogance.

@iwashingtonAnd I have dealt with their evil for 30 years. Navigated and survived it. Coped with it and challenged it because they're weak. This idea, this man just said, well, Jesus could be Chinese. Jesus could be Mexican. It's like, dude, what is a Jew? If you're from the tribe of Judah or was born in Judah, who were considered Israelites, there's no such thing as Israel.

@iwashingtonThey were Israelites, Philistines. At the end of the day, I love what you guys do because I can't believe people are still calling themselves Jews. I know people. I'm like, so what Jew are you, Oshkosh? What are you? There's all kinds of zealots going into China, bringing in communism, Stalin, taking over him, making him do all the things, this, that.

@iwashingtonAnd at the end of the day, there's no talk how you say one hand these people want to claim the Kanye West fame. They're fans of this man. They're haters of the power of this man, Yahweh, right? They lash themselves on like parasites when it's convenient, but yet they don't believe in heaven. And yet he wasn't the Messiah.

@iwashingtonAnd yet, no, we didn't kill him, Pontius Pilate did, but yet you have no talk of Jesus Barabbas, who was freed by the Judean people of the time. Who Jesus was considered a tribe of the kingdom of Judea. There was no such thing as a Jew then. But why you get so upset when people even say the word Jew? Because you know it's a lie.

@iwashingtonAnd I am so grateful. I'm so honored to be alive to see this. I wish my mom would kick me out of the house in 1991. Because I said Jesus' hair was like wool, his feet was like olive. He is not like any of these white Jesuses with blue hair and their hearts on the outside of their robes, mama. He's not a white man. I got kicked out of the house and put on the next thing, smoking to New York.

@iwashingtonHis hair was like wool? Yes.

@natnewsnetworkWhat does the passage actually say?

@iwashingtonI don't know. I'm not an authority. White like wool, right? I said, no, it was like wool. I haven't seen any wool.

@natnewsnetworkWhite like wool, right?

@iwashingtonWhite like wool, right? I don't know what wool. I don't know what wool. Now, it's not talking about texture. I'm not putting in a... Okay, that's fine. I'm not going to debate that. But I know there's no person like Bebe or anybody that looks close to any caucasoid, a phenotype, that could have survived that region. Why do I know this?

@iwashingtonI've been to Egypt. I've been to Nigeria. I've been all over Africa. I've been to some of the darkest, heaviest, melanated people. I've been with the Touaregs. I haven't seen anyone. Hold on. I haven't seen anyone with white, woolen hair.

@natnewsnetworkAll these South Africans are all black.

@joann_marieWait, hold on. The space is going to crash. Let it crash.

@iwashingtonBut anyway, good job, Ian. Good job, Veritas. I've never heard you speak before. I'm not an authority. on Jesus, but what I am authority on are lies and thieves that are calling themselves Jews and Jewish. It's not an ethnic group. I've always wondered when I was studying Judaism, how can, okay, can I be a Christish if I'm a Christian?

@iwashingtonCan I be Blackish because I'm Black? I've never understood this idea of Jewish. It's a marketing strategy and they're so good at it, but I am thrilled to see Rabbi and Ian and True Teller and the co-host JoAnn challenge these lies. That's all I'm here to say. Just because my name is Isaiah doesn't make me Hebrew. Just because these people are saying they're Jewish doesn't mean they are descendants from the kingdom of Judea.

@iwashingtonBefore there was even an Israel, I land my plan.

@natnewsnetworkYeah, thank you.

@joann_marieThat was beautiful and thank you so much for coming up.

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